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- 0:00Speaker 1: 1,315 years after the Battle of Covadonga, when the Muslims
- 0:06Speaker 1: invaded Iberia and attempted to conquer all of Europe, we
- 0:11Speaker 1: are releasing Run, Hide, Fight infidels.
- 0:13Speaker 2: This is Friendly Fire.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I was hoping we'd get for the intro for this episode,
- 0:25Speaker 1: one of those like calls to prayer from the minarets. Anyway,
- 0:31Speaker 1: I hope, dear audience, we've roped you in with this riveting, urgent,
- 0:36Speaker 1: kovidanga discourse. But we're not just talking about ancient history.
- 0:40Speaker 2: No, no.
- 0:41Speaker 1: We're talking about Daily Wire's new movie. If you have
- 0:44Speaker 1: not subscribed, shame on you. Shame on you. What are
- 0:47Speaker 1: you thinking?
- 0:48Speaker 2: You go to dailywire.com.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Slash subscribe so that you can see the movie that
- 0:53Speaker 1: Variety is writing about.
- 0:55Speaker 2: You can see it. We'll get to the Variety review.
- 0:57Speaker 1: You'll see the movie that Slate is calling Deranged, and they.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Don't know the half of it.
- 1:03Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the trailer, here it is.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Your country is beneath contempt.
- 1:10Speaker 4: We who love and serve Allah fought back against the
- 1:15Speaker 4: Americans and the Zionists from the scourge of secularism and
- 1:19Speaker 4: the lands of unbelief.
- 1:27Speaker 5: Anyone gonna listen to Captain Saunders tomorrow?
- 1:28Speaker 3: The retired Delta Force soldier with the new book out.
- 1:32Speaker 6: He's the polar opposite of those brain-dead protesters.
- 1:35Speaker 7: Given the current climate, should Clay Saunders even be allowed
- 1:38Speaker 7: on campus?
- 1:38Speaker 2: Mr. Saunders is a close personal friend of Chancellor Friedman.
- 1:41Speaker 2: This is a decision I cannot fight.
- 1:43Speaker 8: There are three ways Islam will conquer the West. Through immigration,
- 1:50Speaker 8: through the wombs of our women, and by using our
- 1:56Speaker 8: nation's freedoms against us. Are you paying attention?
- 2:10Speaker 3: Listen carefully. The great Satan America will fall.
- 2:23Speaker 2: You are infidels.
- 2:25Speaker 3: The bodies of women are not pure and the men's
- 2:27Speaker 3: souls are unclean.
- 2:30Speaker 8: What makes them so dangerous? Their goals are not in
- 2:34Speaker 8: this life, but the next.
- 2:40Speaker 4: Anyone?
- 2:40Speaker 6: I got friends here.
- 2:42Speaker 2: I can't just leave. Listen to me.
- 2:43Speaker 5: In the law.
- 2:45Speaker 8: We cannot run or hide from what is coming.
- 2:49Speaker 3: We have to fight.
- 2:51Speaker 1: I will be rewarded.
- 2:52Speaker 2: 10,000 times in the next life.
- 2:54Speaker 3: When you die, you are nothing.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Only one way to find out.
- 3:00Speaker 8: That's the American way.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Now I know that was pretty subtle.
- 3:15Speaker 1: So for those of you who didn't get the subtext
- 3:17Speaker 1: of what was going on, a bunch of Muslims take
- 3:20Speaker 1: over a school with the help of the leftist students.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Variety is calling this movie Islamophobic. Matt, would you like
- 3:27Speaker 1: to respond and correct the record?
- 3:31Speaker 7: Uh, great to be with you guys, by the way. Um, and, uh,
- 3:34Speaker 7: it's always quite, always quite, uh, burdensome to be with,
- 3:38Speaker 7: be with all of you. That's not the word I wanted.
- 3:39Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 3:40Speaker 7: Uh, look, I think it is, it's very Islamophobic and, uh,
- 3:45Speaker 7: I think we can embrace that. Uh, if Islamophobia, if
- 3:48Speaker 7: that's even a word that means anything, then sure. Let's, uh, let's,
- 3:52Speaker 7: let's embrace that. I think that the, look, the, the
- 3:55Speaker 7: promise of the daily wire has always been, or the, the,
- 3:58Speaker 7: the pitch has always been, uh, Well, we're going to
- 4:00Speaker 7: make movies that you can't get anywhere else. We're going
- 4:04Speaker 7: to make the movies that no one else will make.
- 4:06Speaker 7: We'll make the movie like Netflix won't make, Amazon won't make.
- 4:09Speaker 7: And one thing you could certainly say about this movie,
- 4:13Speaker 7: having seen it myself, of course, is that it definitely
- 4:16Speaker 7: fulfills that promise. This is certainly one. You're not going
- 4:20Speaker 7: to find this on Netflix. You literally can't go anywhere
- 4:22Speaker 7: else to find this movie or anything like it. And
- 4:25Speaker 7: that's reason enough to go check it out, I'd say.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say in the fevered dreams of Charles
- 4:30Speaker 1: Martel himself, you probably wouldn't see this movie. I think,
- 4:34Speaker 1: you know, Pope Pius X would say like, hey guys,
- 4:37Speaker 1: slow your roll a little bit.
- 4:38Speaker 2: This is a little heavy handed on the old Muslims,
- 4:41Speaker 2: wouldn't you say? But it's not just the Muslims.
- 4:43Speaker 1: It's also the purple haired liberal students who have a
- 4:47Speaker 1: very strange alliance that a lot of us have been
- 4:49Speaker 1: talking about for a long time. And Ben, you've been
- 4:52Speaker 1: calling attention to for many years.
- 4:54Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, obviously the movie is, I would say
- 4:56Speaker 9: sort of a mashup of like Red Dawn and Blazing Saddles,
- 4:59Speaker 9: but about radical Muslims.
- 5:01Speaker 6: And so it's a lot of fun. It's awesome.
- 5:03Speaker 9: For the people who have not seen it yet today,
- 5:05Speaker 9: or you should go subscribe and watch it right now.
- 5:07Speaker 9: By the way, we should say Run, Hide, Fight was
- 5:09Speaker 9: our most successful movie release ever at The Daily Wire.
- 5:12Speaker 9: Our day one numbers on Run, Hide, Fight infidels are
- 5:14Speaker 9: doubling the numbers that we did on the original Run, Hide, Fight.
- 5:18Speaker 9: So already tons and tons of people are watching it.
- 5:21Speaker 9: And the reviewers are hating it. And yeah, they're calling
- 5:22Speaker 9: it Islamophobic. Again, these are the same reviewers who were
- 5:25Speaker 9: saying that one battle after another needed to win Best
- 5:27Speaker 9: Picture Oscar, which was just a radically anti-American piece of
- 5:31Speaker 9: crap about how America was a white supremacist country and
- 5:33Speaker 9: murdering federal officers was an active good. And so what
- 5:37Speaker 9: this movie is, is it's about the Red-Green Alliance, really.
- 5:40Speaker 9: It could have been called Useful Idiots. Basically, you have
- 5:43Speaker 9: a bunch of blue-haired liberal protesters who are taking over
- 5:46Speaker 9: the college campus, obstructing events, and all the rest. And
- 5:49Speaker 9: they are used by their Islamist friends in order to
- 5:52Speaker 9: take over the campus, things don't go right for them.
- 5:54Speaker 9: I would say from there on in, as has been
- 5:56Speaker 9: historically the case. And, you know, people are focusing on
- 5:59Speaker 9: the politics of the thing, but the reason that I'm
- 6:02Speaker 9: kind of mashing up the red Dawn with the blazing
- 6:04Speaker 9: saddles of it is because there is a fairly serious
- 6:07Speaker 9: point here that I think slate was, was best. The
- 6:10Speaker 9: ones called the deranged, the reason they said it was
- 6:11Speaker 9: deranged is because they said that we took an evil
- 6:13Speaker 9: glee in portraying what exactly would happen to the blue
- 6:17Speaker 9: haired liberals. If radical Muslims took over a campus and
- 6:20Speaker 9: that's not evil glee, that's just called realism. Like in
- 6:23Speaker 9: the real world, all of the queers for Palestine go
- 6:26Speaker 9: off buildings in an Islamic state run area. And that's
- 6:29Speaker 9: one of the points that I think the film makes it,
- 6:31Speaker 9: it makes it an entertaining fashion, but I mean, it, Again, but.
- 6:37Speaker 1: There are also some knocks on the Muslims in the movie, too.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Like, yes, it does.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Portray some of their best attributes, but it also shows
- 6:44Speaker 1: the bad stuff, I think.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Right.
- 6:48Speaker 5: Wow. Wow.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Wow.
- 6:50Speaker 9: But yes, I mean, the basic idea, again, is that, again,
- 6:53Speaker 9: Slate was very angry at us for showing ISIS doing
- 6:55Speaker 9: ISIS things.
- 6:56Speaker 6: Like they're very upset at it, at us for that.
- 6:59Speaker 9: And I believe that it was Slate that actually went
- 7:01Speaker 9: and quoted a top member of the Muslim Public Affairs Council.
- 7:04Speaker 9: which is a group that was founded by legitimate Muslim
- 7:07Speaker 9: Brotherhood offshoots to talk about why it's so Islamophobic. And
- 7:11Speaker 9: the whole conversation about Islam versus Islamophobic, Islamist, Islamism, which
- 7:15Speaker 9: modifier we're supposed to use. Can we just put it
- 7:18Speaker 9: out there that Islam as a global force, as Samuel
- 7:20Speaker 9: Huntington once said, has bloody borders and bloody innards, and
- 7:23Speaker 9: that were there to be mass Muslim migration to the West,
- 7:26Speaker 9: it would be a bad thing. And we know this
- 7:27Speaker 9: because it already happened and it hasn't been awesome.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, one of my favorite writers, the Catholic
- 7:34Speaker 1: conservative types, every time they quote anybody, it's either Chesterton
- 7:39Speaker 1: or Hilaire Belloc. You know, those are the great 20th
- 7:41Speaker 1: century polemicist writers. And Belloc totally called this.
- 7:44Speaker 2: He had this book on the.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Crusades where he says, we lost the Crusades. The Muslims
- 7:48Speaker 1: won because we lost at Damascus. And so as a result,
- 7:52Speaker 1: Islam is solid and it's the West that's weaker. And
- 7:56Speaker 1: he's writing this in the 1930s when it looked like
- 7:58Speaker 1: Islam was kind of dead as a major world force.
- 8:01Speaker 1: And he said, you guys are crazy. I mean, nobody
- 8:04Speaker 1: is more to the right of Hilaire Belloc basically that's
- 8:06Speaker 1: ever lived. And he said, you guys are crazy. Islam
- 8:08Speaker 1: is going to reassert itself and it's going to happen
- 8:11Speaker 1: sooner than later.
- 8:12Speaker 2: And it did.
- 8:12Speaker 1: It started to happen again in the 1970s, obviously 2001.
- 8:14Speaker 1: And it's continued since then. So, you know, I'm delighted
- 8:20Speaker 1: that we're really doubling and tripling down on the hardcore,
- 8:27Speaker 1: you know, message here. The other thing I really like, look,
- 8:30Speaker 1: I love a lot of the DW movies, but we
- 8:34Speaker 1: now have a male lead. I don't know.
- 8:36Speaker 2: We've had a lot of chicks in the movies. We
- 8:38Speaker 2: have a male lead. This is, to your point, Ben,
- 8:40Speaker 2: it is, it's like Red.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Dawn with a bunch of Muslims added to, turned up
- 8:43Speaker 1: to 11. uh, get, get a real kick out of it.
- 8:46Speaker 1: So if you haven't subscribed, if I haven't showed this
- 8:47Speaker 1: enough for you yet, dailywire.com slash subscribe, you get the
- 8:51Speaker 1: message goes great with a Mayflower cigar. It goes well though, even,
- 8:54Speaker 1: even without a Mayflower cigar. Is it this line that we,
- 8:57Speaker 1: I mean, I made the joke about careers for Palestine,
- 8:59Speaker 1: but a lot of people are scratching their heads. How
- 9:01Speaker 1: is it the case that the, you know, purple haired
- 9:04Speaker 1: tranny would, would team up with the Islamists or whatever?
- 9:08Speaker 1: It does kind of make some sense to me though.
- 9:10Speaker 1: I don't know, Drew, is it just, they're all just
- 9:11Speaker 1: dumb and they don't realize that the Muslims don't like
- 9:14Speaker 1: them or something?
- 9:15Speaker 5: No, you know, the funny thing about that variety review,
- 9:18Speaker 5: just like it's excoriated us, they start out, the first
- 9:21Speaker 5: sentence is, this is more of an epic troll than
- 9:25Speaker 5: a creative endeavor. Now, in a world where people like
- 9:28Speaker 5: variety own, have a stranglehold on the culture, an epic
- 9:33Speaker 5: troll is the best creative endeavor you can do. I mean,
- 9:36Speaker 5: we've been doing epic trolls at this place for, since
- 9:39Speaker 5: the daily wire began and they've had tremendous effects. The
- 9:42Speaker 5: movie is hilarious throughout. I don't understand why it's wrong
- 9:47Speaker 5: to show what is, you know, radical Muslims would do
- 9:51Speaker 5: to the people who are queers for Palestine and women
- 9:53Speaker 5: for Palestine. I don't see why that is anything but
- 9:56Speaker 5: a very, a perfectly good piece of satire. I have
- 10:00Speaker 5: to reveal, I don't want to get anything away from
- 10:01Speaker 5: the movie. I laughed throughout the movie. I thought it
- 10:04Speaker 5: was really funny, totally over the top. There's one scene
- 10:07Speaker 5: in this picture where an American of South Korean descent
- 10:10Speaker 5: who is into brewing alcohol, and he's seen throughout the
- 10:13Speaker 5: movie studying brewing alcohol and talking about brewing alcohol. He's
- 10:17Speaker 5: faced with a tremendous challenge in a computer where he
- 10:21Speaker 5: has to dismantle a terrible thing that's going to happen
- 10:24Speaker 5: to his computer. He's doing it. His girlfriend says to him,
- 10:28Speaker 5: why do you know how to do this? And he says,
- 10:30Speaker 5: I'm Asian. I just thought, I thought, we're not supposed
- 10:34Speaker 5: to be taking this entirely seriously. This is a movie
- 10:37Speaker 5: that is kidding around from the first line. And on
- 10:41Speaker 5: top of that, while it's kidding around, I thought the
- 10:43Speaker 5: action sequences were pretty good. You know, I thought the
- 10:45Speaker 5: action sequences were gripping and scary. And so I thought
- 10:49Speaker 5: it did its job. And as Ben says, Blazing Saddles,
- 10:52Speaker 5: you know, and Red Dawn. Why not? Why would you
- 10:55Speaker 5: not do that? I don't understand why the people who
- 10:59Speaker 5: gave an Oscar to a movie in which conservatives are
- 11:02Speaker 5: portrayed as sexual perverts and white supremacists can't take a joke.
- 11:08Speaker 2: I'm shocked that they can't take a joke.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Our pal Dallas Sonier, who produced the film and who
- 11:14Speaker 1: has made a lot of Daily Wire content, and a
- 11:16Speaker 1: lot of many films before he was at The Daily Wire,
- 11:19Speaker 1: Adela Sonnier is a maestro of violence.
- 11:23Speaker 2: He is maybe the.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Leading connoisseur of on-screen violence working today.
- 11:28Speaker 2: And so you get that too, you know, it's not
- 11:30Speaker 2: all just funny.
- 11:30Speaker 1: I mean, there are some really phenomenal acting sequences in it,
- 11:34Speaker 1: or sorry, action sequences in it. But I do want
- 11:37Speaker 1: to get to the point, because a lot of people
- 11:39Speaker 1: seem to think that the kind of purple-haired queers for
- 11:43Speaker 1: Palestine They're just dummies. If they ever opened up the Quran,
- 11:47Speaker 1: if they ever read a history book, they would know
- 11:48Speaker 1: that Islam is really violent. And I want to give
- 11:51Speaker 1: them more credit than that. I think they kind of
- 11:53Speaker 1: know that. I think the radical left is very disordered,
- 11:58Speaker 1: and they're in the thrall to bad ideologies and possibly Satan.
- 12:03Speaker 2: I'm not even really being hyperbolic.
- 12:05Speaker 1: And so I think they just realize that they have
- 12:07Speaker 1: a common enemy, that they and the radical Muslims, though
- 12:10Speaker 1: they disagree on a lot of particulars, they have a
- 12:12Speaker 1: common enemy, which is Christian civilization and America and, I
- 12:16Speaker 1: don't know, white people and men and whatever. And so
- 12:19Speaker 1: they're willing to team up with them and anything that
- 12:23Speaker 1: we oppose, they want to support.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Is that too reductive a reading?
- 12:29Speaker 7: I don't think it is at all. I mean, it
- 12:31Speaker 7: really is that simple. And I think that the movie
- 12:33Speaker 7: does a pretty good job of showing this. Now, in
- 12:36Speaker 7: the movie, because a lot of it's to comedic effect,
- 12:38Speaker 7: so a lot of the leftists in the film are
- 12:42Speaker 7: portrayed as the more oblivious types, like they don't really
- 12:44Speaker 7: understand what they're getting themselves into. And there is an
- 12:47Speaker 7: element of truth to that. I think that maybe at
- 12:49Speaker 7: the kind of low level among the grunts on the left,
- 12:54Speaker 7: maybe they don't quite understand it. But at a higher level,
- 12:57Speaker 7: they certainly do. It's a strategic alliance. I think you're right, Michael.
- 13:01Speaker 7: It's actually pretty simple in that the left, that is,
- 13:05Speaker 7: hates Western civilization and They hate white people in particular.
- 13:12Speaker 2: They hate Christians.
- 13:15Speaker 7: And they see Islam and they see that we have
- 13:17Speaker 7: a shared enemy. They see Islam as a destructive force,
- 13:20Speaker 7: something that seeks to destroy Western civilization. And it's really
- 13:25Speaker 7: that simple. I mean, we know on the left, we
- 13:26Speaker 7: talk about it all the time, that it's not as
- 13:31Speaker 7: though they necessarily have the best plan for rebuilding on
- 13:37Speaker 7: the other side. They're not quite as worried about that.
- 13:39Speaker 7: It's a destructive force. And that's why I always say,
- 13:43Speaker 7: we call it progressive, progressivism. I think some people on
- 13:46Speaker 7: the right don't like that term because they say, well,
- 13:48Speaker 7: it's not really progress. I like the term because it's
- 13:51Speaker 7: progressive in the sense that cancer is progressive. It progresses
- 13:54Speaker 7: in the same way and to the same end. Cancer
- 13:57Speaker 7: doesn't have an intention necessarily for what it does after
- 14:02Speaker 7: it kills you. It just kills you. And it's the
- 14:03Speaker 7: same thing for the left. And they see They see
- 14:06Speaker 7: Islam as a tool for that. They see mass migration
- 14:10Speaker 7: from the third world generally as a tool for that.
- 14:13Speaker 2: And you know something? They're right. It is.
- 14:14Speaker 7: You know, it's that simple.
- 14:16Speaker 1: And there is that commonality of just being a destructive force.
- 14:20Speaker 1: I say this as someone, like, I guess I'm Islamophobic
- 14:24Speaker 1: in the sense that I think Islam is just contrary
- 14:26Speaker 1: to our civilization. And they've been trying to conquer us
- 14:28Speaker 1: for roughly 1,400 years. And it's ultimately just an incompatible
- 14:33Speaker 1: world system. and one of us is going to prevail,
- 14:36Speaker 1: and one of us is going to lose, at least
- 14:38Speaker 1: in the fight.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Over the West.
- 14:39Speaker 1: So I think that, but I agree with Dante, who
- 14:44Speaker 1: hasn't yet come up on this show for some reason,
- 14:46Speaker 1: who has a kind of grudging respect for Saladin, the
- 14:51Speaker 1: great Muslim in the Crusades, who he puts him with
- 14:54Speaker 1: the virtuous pagans. And so you see this in a
- 14:56Speaker 1: lot of crusade literature, like the Song of Roland and
- 15:00Speaker 1: those kinds of poems. There's this kind of grudging respect
- 15:03Speaker 1: for Islam while recognizing that they are intent on our destruction.
- 15:07Speaker 1: There's a lot of liberal propaganda about the Muslim conquest
- 15:09Speaker 1: of Spain, of Iberia, in which they say, well, it
- 15:12Speaker 1: was this thriving multicultural civilization and.
- 15:15Speaker 2: You know, it was just very diverse. And that's not
- 15:18Speaker 2: really what happened.
- 15:18Speaker 1: They came over, they enslaved, they conquered, they killed tens
- 15:21Speaker 1: of millions of Christians and enslaved them. And really they just,
- 15:25Speaker 1: the great triumphs of that civilization are was just the
- 15:28Speaker 1: Muslims kind of using the Spanish and Western goods that
- 15:33Speaker 1: had already existed. So I think there is a commonality, too,
- 15:38Speaker 1: in that Islam has brought.
- 15:40Speaker 2: A lot of destruction. It's spread through destruction.
- 15:42Speaker 1: It hasn't syncretized with the West. It hasn't grown anything
- 15:45Speaker 1: out of the West. And the same can be said,
- 15:48Speaker 1: to your point, Matt, of the left. The left is very,
- 15:51Speaker 1: very good at destroying things. The left is not so
- 15:54Speaker 1: good or really in any way concerned with building things,
- 15:58Speaker 1: but I do fear people are going to take from
- 16:01Speaker 1: our commentary that the movie is like a little too nuanced,
- 16:05Speaker 1: a little too subtle, a little too kind of hard
- 16:08Speaker 1: to get. So just in case you want to more
- 16:11Speaker 1: accurately understand what the movie is about, here is a
- 16:14Speaker 1: Muslim kicking a homosexual off a roof.
- 16:22Speaker 3: You both did your part in our conquest and for
- 16:24Speaker 3: this I am thankful. Your government kills people all over
- 16:45Speaker 3: the world. They celebrate it. You only care when they
- 16:49Speaker 3: look like you. America destroyed our original glorious caliphate. They
- 16:57Speaker 3: tortured and imprisoned our caliph. But they could not kill
- 17:01Speaker 3: our spirit. Our purpose transcends the things of this world.
- 17:09Speaker 2: We just.
- 17:11Speaker 6: Didn't expect so much death.
- 17:16Speaker 3: We have killed the right amount to instill fear. Many
- 17:20Speaker 3: we let run so they could tell others of our
- 17:22Speaker 3: strength and the remaining ones are piano keys.
- 17:27Speaker 2: I expected more resistance.
- 17:30Speaker 3: But I should not be surprised. So many in your
- 17:33Speaker 3: country cannot even be bothered to produce children, but this
- 17:36Speaker 3: is a day that you will tell yours about.
- 17:40Speaker 1: We're not We won't have kids.
- 17:47Speaker 6: I like everyone, and Bruce.
- 17:50Speaker 2: I'm gay.
- 17:58Speaker 5: I want to address this. I want to address this.
- 18:00Speaker 5: Wait a minute. As someone who has kicked many homosexuals,
- 18:03Speaker 5: although we were in chorus lines at the time... I
- 18:06Speaker 5: just want to say that along with what Walsh is
- 18:10Speaker 5: saying about common enemies and things like this, there's this wild,
- 18:14Speaker 5: wild atmosphere of imaginary life on the left that I've
- 18:20Speaker 5: never quite been able to get over. In one of
- 18:22Speaker 5: the reviews, I think it may have also been the
- 18:23Speaker 5: Variety review, they shake their finger at us because we
- 18:27Speaker 5: don't have the empathy to sympathize with land acknowledgements. You know,
- 18:31Speaker 5: with saying, oh, this land belonged to the Chippewa or whatever.
- 18:34Speaker 5: And I've always felt like I will sympathize with those
- 18:36Speaker 5: acknowledgements the minute at the end of it, they give
- 18:39Speaker 5: the land back to the Comanches. You know, whatever they,
- 18:42Speaker 5: when they say this campus was once owned. by the
- 18:46Speaker 5: Chippewas and from now on, we're giving classes out on
- 18:48Speaker 5: the sidewalk because we're letting them come back and hunt
- 18:52Speaker 5: buffalo through the campus. Then I'll agree with it, but
- 18:54Speaker 5: it's all fantasy. And we saw it was all fantasy
- 18:57Speaker 5: in Martha's Vineyard when the illegals came in and it
- 19:01Speaker 5: was like, ooh, we didn't quite mean that much. We
- 19:04Speaker 5: didn't quite want you here. It's all this imaginary life
- 19:09Speaker 5: that they live. And They can't stand that you make
- 19:12Speaker 5: fun of it because it exposes it for what it is,
- 19:14Speaker 5: which is vapor.
- 19:15Speaker 6: Can I just say one thing? Go for it, Matt.
- 19:20Speaker 7: On that scene, I feel like the gay guy didn't
- 19:23Speaker 7: have to tell him.
- 19:26Speaker 2: He should have just kept that to himself.
- 19:27Speaker 7: When I was watching that scene, I find myself rooting
- 19:30Speaker 7: for the left a little bit.
- 19:31Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't have to tell him. You don't
- 19:32Speaker 2: have to tell him this.
- 19:33Speaker 6: Just keep it to yourself.
- 19:36Speaker 1: If he couldn't tell from the voice, you don't have
- 19:38Speaker 1: to tell him, you know, he's clearly a little oblivious.
- 19:40Speaker 6: You know, it was a mistake. It was a tactical mistake.
- 19:42Speaker 9: I think we can all admit it was a tactical
- 19:44Speaker 9: mistake for him to say something about it at that time. But,
- 19:46Speaker 9: you know, one of the things that you were saying, Michael,
- 19:48Speaker 9: earlier where you were saying it, I think Matt was
- 19:50Speaker 9: saying it too, that we're not sure like how dumb
- 19:53Speaker 9: some of the members of the left are or how
- 19:54Speaker 9: much they understand this. So I use as my case
- 19:58Speaker 9: in point of them being just stupid, the actual reviewer
- 20:01Speaker 9: for Variety, who it seems may have actually attended the
- 20:03Speaker 9: protest in the movie. Here is a line from the actual,
- 20:07Speaker 9: it is a line from the actual review, quote, Are
- 20:10Speaker 9: you contemptuous of radical leftists who believe that others should
- 20:13Speaker 9: be treated with decency.
- 20:14Speaker 6: Care, and respect? If so, this is the film for you.
- 20:18Speaker 9: So I have to say, first of all, the notion
- 20:20Speaker 9: that radical leftists are just wonderful people who believe that
- 20:24Speaker 9: others should be treated with decency, care, and respect is
- 20:27Speaker 9: such a bunch of horseshit.
- 20:29Speaker 6: I mean, it's just something. But it's how they perceive themselves, right?
- 20:31Speaker 9: Some of the cruelest people, some of the most destructive people,
- 20:34Speaker 9: people who would, for example, be chortling it up on
- 20:37Speaker 9: TikTok over Charlie Kirk getting assassinated or something, right? Those
- 20:40Speaker 9: people are the people who just want others to be
- 20:43Speaker 9: treated with decency and care and respect. And that's why
- 20:45Speaker 9: they're protesting decency in favor of Hamas in Gaza, or
- 20:49Speaker 9: why on 9-11, they're reading Osama bin Laden's letters and
- 20:52Speaker 9: finding some, it's just because they're so empathetic.
- 20:54Speaker 6: And how dare we make fun of those people?
- 20:57Speaker 7: Like, again.
- 20:58Speaker 9: If you really feel the empathy for the Islamic terrorists,
- 21:01Speaker 9: then yeah, you're kind of suicidal. And we actually have
- 21:03Speaker 9: seen worlds historically, the circumstance actually play out. I mean,
- 21:06Speaker 9: this was the story of the 1979 revolution in Iran.
- 21:10Speaker 9: It was not just a bunch of radical Muslims. It
- 21:12Speaker 9: was also communists. And the communists and the radical Muslims
- 21:15Speaker 9: came together pretty openly. and overthrew the Shah, at which
- 21:19Speaker 9: point the communists turned to the Muslims and said, let's
- 21:22Speaker 9: govern together. And the Muslims said, we're going to execute
- 21:24Speaker 9: literally all of you, which they then proceeded to do.
- 21:26Speaker 9: And so, again, we tend to think, I think that
- 21:31Speaker 9: maybe we're projecting our understanding of them onto them. I'm
- 21:33Speaker 9: not sure they even self-understand some of them, particularly the
- 21:35Speaker 9: kids on college campuses who are.
- 21:37Speaker 6: Mostly dumb as a rock.
- 21:38Speaker 9: I mean, maybe that's me being actually too flattering for them.
- 21:41Speaker 9: Maybe they truly understand the nature of what it is
- 21:43Speaker 9: that they are allying with. But I think what they
- 21:45Speaker 9: figure is that those people that are allying with will
- 21:47Speaker 9: never be fully victorious in the end will be the
- 21:49Speaker 9: ones who are driving the car. And I just think
- 21:51Speaker 9: that they don't understand that in the end, they will
- 21:53Speaker 9: not be driving any car at all, particularly if they
- 21:55Speaker 9: are women.
- 21:56Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Well, this line too, where they, they, the variety guy
- 21:59Speaker 1: is getting to where he says, you know, that we
- 22:01Speaker 1: just want to be compassionate and caring. And the line
- 22:03Speaker 1: that you're seeing the Dems trot out on the campaign
- 22:05Speaker 1: trail now is you're calling us radicals. Um, Our radicalism
- 22:09Speaker 1: is that we want to give people health care. That's
- 22:11Speaker 1: the new spin doctor line they're all reciting it. And
- 22:14Speaker 1: it falls so flat for anyone paying attention because they're
- 22:19Speaker 1: saying they just want to give you health care as,
- 22:22Speaker 1: to your point, Ben, they're making TikTok celebrating Charlie's assassination. Or,
- 22:27Speaker 1: not just to rely on the anecdote, or they are
- 22:29Speaker 1: responding to pollsters and saying that 25 to 28% of
- 22:34Speaker 1: very liberal respondents or leftists under the age of 45
- 22:38Speaker 1: justify political violence, killing otherwise innocent conservatives just because of
- 22:42Speaker 1: what they believe.
- 22:43Speaker 2: They are very violent.
- 22:44Speaker 1: I mean, this is a commonality between the left and
- 22:47Speaker 1: the Muslims right now that is really overlooked.
- 22:49Speaker 2: We give the left too much of a pass on it.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Even the Atlantic had to come out a few months
- 22:53Speaker 1: ago and say that left-wing terrorism is is the chief
- 22:58Speaker 1: problem with political violence right now. And by the way,
- 23:02Speaker 1: they're relying on data sets that still exclude most left-wing violence,
- 23:06Speaker 1: that actually exclude an Antifa attack on one of my
- 23:09Speaker 1: very own speaking events. So I caught it just because
- 23:11Speaker 1: I was looking for that one incident. And then you look,
- 23:14Speaker 1: the BLM violence is not counted in these data sets.
- 23:17Speaker 1: So even taking out most of the left-wing violence, still
- 23:21Speaker 1: most of the political violence is coming here from the left.
- 23:24Speaker 1: And so there is, there is a real commonality with that.
- 23:27Speaker 1: And I think the left has to grapple with it
- 23:28Speaker 1: because they're, they're going to try to downplay the Hassan
- 23:31Speaker 1: Piker of it all. They're going to say, oh, that
- 23:33Speaker 1: was just a one candidate in Maine. It was just
- 23:35Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed, or it was just AOC campaigning with Hassan Piker,
- 23:39Speaker 1: or it was Bernie Sanders, or, you know, all of
- 23:41Speaker 1: a sudden the list is pretty long to campaign with
- 23:44Speaker 1: a guy who says America deserved 9-11, who says he
- 23:46Speaker 1: wipes himself with the American flag. who called for the
- 23:48Speaker 1: murder of two Republican senators, and who fantasized about personally
- 23:53Speaker 1: murdering Charlie Kirk before one of his fellow travelers actually
- 23:56Speaker 1: did it. But the violence is a major, major problem here.
- 24:00Speaker 1: And we just give them a pass for it.
- 24:04Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 24:04Speaker 1: I see a huge commonality between the two sides.
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- 25:16Speaker 9: what one thing, Michael, that I found astonishing about some
- 25:19Speaker 9: of these reviews also is. it's one of the things
- 25:22Speaker 9: that annoys me the most about what the left typically
- 25:24Speaker 9: does is Matt, you'll tell a joke and the left
- 25:27Speaker 9: will pretend that you're not joking. When you tell the joke, Michael,
- 25:29Speaker 9: you'll do the same thing. Drew, this happens to you
- 25:31Speaker 9: legitimately all the time. And so the reviews are like,
- 25:34Speaker 9: why isn't this a nuanced drama about the necessities and
- 25:38Speaker 9: desires of Muslims in America facing down predations of the
- 25:41Speaker 9: United States? And why, why don't you treat the left
- 25:44Speaker 9: with nuance? Like when was the last action movie from
- 25:47Speaker 9: 1992 that, where you got like a nuanced view of
- 25:50Speaker 9: the good guys and the bad guys. Let's just be clear.
- 25:53Speaker 9: One battle after another, which again is the one that
- 25:55Speaker 9: I'm going to come back to because it won best
- 25:56Speaker 9: picture last year.
- 25:57Speaker 6: Okay.
- 25:58Speaker 9: One battle after another is the least nuanced movie in
- 26:00Speaker 9: the history of film. It makes this movie look like
- 26:03Speaker 9: an Ingmar Bergman presentation. One battle after another is just
- 26:07Speaker 9: a botchery of a film. It is a full scale
- 26:10Speaker 9: propaganda effort on behalf of the hard left that glorifies
- 26:13Speaker 9: the murder of federal agents, treats the leadership of the
- 26:16Speaker 9: United States as though they're polo shirt wearing, golfing, full-scale
- 26:20Speaker 9: white supremacists who also have sexual fetishes for black women.
- 26:24Speaker 9: And also there's like an underground railroad of illegal immigrants
- 26:27Speaker 9: run by the only competent person in the movie, Benicio
- 26:29Speaker 9: Del Toro. And that's that one best picture. So don't
- 26:32Speaker 9: give me that this movie isn't subtle enough for your taste.
- 26:35Speaker 9: It just doesn't agree with your view of the world.
- 26:37Speaker 9: And that's why you're actually super pissed about it. And listen,
- 26:40Speaker 9: I think we're all very grateful for them for saying
- 26:42Speaker 9: the quiet part out loud about their hatred of the
- 26:44Speaker 9: politics of the film. They then try to hide behind, oh, well,
- 26:46Speaker 9: we don't like the quality of the film. You don't
- 26:49Speaker 9: care about the quality of the film. You care about
- 26:50Speaker 9: the politics of the film because the film is just,
- 26:53Speaker 9: it is funny and it is entertaining. And I promise
- 26:55Speaker 9: you're going to enjoy it with your friends and your family.
- 26:58Speaker 9: when you watch, I wouldn't recommend watching with a 10
- 27:00Speaker 9: year old, but, but certainly with a 15 or 16
- 27:02Speaker 9: year old, you're going to have a good time with it.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Yes.
- 27:03Speaker 2: You could watch it with your husband.
- 27:05Speaker 1: You could watch it with your brother in the case
- 27:07Speaker 1: of Ilhan Omar, who might well have appeared in the movie.
- 27:10Speaker 2: Obviously that would be the same person. The one, the
- 27:14Speaker 2: one real heart.
- 27:16Speaker 5: I want to follow up on a point you made
- 27:18Speaker 5: before though, because I think it actually is, is kind
- 27:20Speaker 5: of important. You know, I think everybody on this panel,
- 27:24Speaker 5: I know Ben has, and he's such an evil Jewish guy.
- 27:29Speaker 5: We've all talked about the fact that they're wonderful Muslim
- 27:31Speaker 5: people and all that. But those aren't the people that
- 27:33Speaker 5: the left elects when they elect people to lead in
- 27:36Speaker 5: this country. I mean, the mayor of New York is
- 27:38Speaker 5: a Jew-hating, terrorist-sympathizing person. piece of garbage. And Abdul El-Sahid
- 27:44Speaker 5: is not that far behind. In fact, he may actually
- 27:46Speaker 5: outstrip Zorah Mamdani. So these are not the people they're
- 27:50Speaker 5: actually elevating. They're not elevating the people that they would
- 27:53Speaker 5: like us to acknowledge, and I acknowledge them, but they're
- 27:55Speaker 5: elevating the people in the film. They're looking at this
- 27:59Speaker 5: movie and saying, that's a terrible, terrible depiction of a Muslim.
- 28:01Speaker 5: Let's elect a mayor of New York. That would be
- 28:03Speaker 5: a great idea. So I don't even know what their.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Right.
- 28:07Speaker 1: They're not like I like the the Islamic grocer on
- 28:11Speaker 1: whatever block it is in New York or the cab
- 28:13Speaker 1: driver or whatever. But that's not the guy that they're promoting.
- 28:16Speaker 1: And it's also, by the way, not just the fringe.
- 28:18Speaker 1: I mean, it's important to point out that we are
- 28:20Speaker 1: seeing this show up in the elections. But even, you know,
- 28:24Speaker 1: the movie obviously presents these kind of dumb college kids
- 28:27Speaker 1: with the crazy hair queers for Palestine and then the
- 28:30Speaker 1: radical jihadi types.
- 28:32Speaker 2: And you say, OK, well, you guys are just talking
- 28:33Speaker 2: about fringes.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Again, don't forget. The leading thought leader on the left,
- 28:38Speaker 1: such as it is, as it were, is Hasan Piker.
- 28:41Speaker 1: I don't think that's an exaggeration. I think he's the guy.
- 28:44Speaker 1: He's the guy that the Democrat candidates look to. He's
- 28:47Speaker 1: the biggest streamer on the left. And he's not just
- 28:50Speaker 1: being promoted by the fringe elements. He was being platformed
- 28:53Speaker 1: by the New York Times. The New York Times platformed
- 28:56Speaker 1: that guy approvingly twice in the days following Charlie Kirk's assassination.
- 29:00Speaker 1: They've platformed another couple times since that first spate. So
- 29:05Speaker 1: this is a widespread phenomenon. It's obviously happening.
- 29:09Speaker 2: I agree.
- 29:10Speaker 1: The left is never interested in nuance when it's their projects.
- 29:14Speaker 1: It's only for ours that we're supposed to make, I
- 29:17Speaker 1: don't know, we're supposed to make nothing, which is really
- 29:20Speaker 1: what they want. And I think they're very upset that
- 29:21Speaker 1: we keep making things that you can support at dailywire.com
- 29:24Speaker 1: slash subscribe. Speaking of Abdul El-Sayed, our friends over at Calshi, Now,
- 29:29Speaker 1: this is awful.
- 29:30Speaker 2: This is awful. Can I just leave now?
- 29:32Speaker 1: They're saying that Abdul El-Sayed has a 63% chance of
- 29:36Speaker 1: winning the race in Michigan overnight. over Mike Rogers at 37%.
- 29:41Speaker 1: Do you guys buy those numbers?
- 29:46Speaker 6: I think they're a little bit high.
- 29:48Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 29:49Speaker 6: I would say they're a little bit high for Abdul El-Sayed.
- 29:52Speaker 9: I think that you're going to see Rogers in the
- 29:55Speaker 9: last month of the election start to climb back into
- 29:57Speaker 9: competitiveness there. I mean, there's been a lot of press
- 30:00Speaker 9: for Abdul El-Sayed right now. And I do think that
- 30:02Speaker 9: the ad spend hasn't really hit yet in Michigan. But
- 30:05Speaker 9: to pretend that El-Sayed is not the favorite in Michigan
- 30:07Speaker 9: would be to whistle past the graveyard.
- 30:09Speaker 6: And again, it's not just El-Sayed.
- 30:10Speaker 9: I mean, there are going to be multiple members of
- 30:12Speaker 9: Congress who are open jihadi sympathizers in the next Congress.
- 30:15Speaker 9: I mean, people who for sure will get elected. Milak
- 30:16Speaker 9: Hirosh over in Colorado. Adam Hamawi was literally a mouthpiece
- 30:20Speaker 9: for the blind sheikh who bombed the World Trade Center
- 30:23Speaker 9: in 1993. And that dude is going to end up
- 30:24Speaker 9: in Congress from New Jersey. You have Daryl Lisa Chevalier
- 30:28Speaker 9: over in New York, who's a full-scale terrorist sympathizer. They're
- 30:31Speaker 9: a multiplicity of these candidates. And again, to your guys' point,
- 30:34Speaker 9: it's not just the candidates. The groups that are quoted
- 30:37Speaker 9: in all of these pieces calling us Islamophobic are literally
- 30:40Speaker 9: unindicted co-conspirators in terrorism trials, right? They're quoting people from
- 30:44Speaker 9: like the Council on American Islamic Relations, which was an
- 30:48Speaker 9: unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation trial. The Holy
- 30:50Speaker 9: Land Foundation was a charitable group in Texas. It was
- 30:53Speaker 9: not a charity. It was a front group for fundraising
- 30:55Speaker 9: for Hamas. And Kerr was an unindicted co-conspirator in that case.
- 30:57Speaker 9: Like all the people they're quoting may not agree with
- 31:01Speaker 9: the exact terrorist attacks, but they have tremendous sympathy for
- 31:04Speaker 9: these terrorist groups overall. And this is, again, one of
- 31:07Speaker 9: the games that drives me crazy. It's the semantic game.
- 31:10Speaker 9: No one is arguing that every Muslim in the United
- 31:12Speaker 9: States loves terrorism and is evil. Nobody is arguing that.
- 31:15Speaker 9: But is Islam as a general world force regressive, restrictive?
- 31:19Speaker 9: And does it have bloody borders and bloody innards, as
- 31:21Speaker 9: Samuel Huntington said? I mean, the answer is yes. And therefore,
- 31:24Speaker 9: if you then ship millions of people from these civilizations
- 31:28Speaker 9: into your own where they build enclaves, is that a
- 31:30Speaker 9: good idea or a bad idea? I think the obvious
- 31:33Speaker 9: answer is it's quite a bad idea. And let's be
- 31:36Speaker 9: real about this. Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan is a person
- 31:38Speaker 9: who said about an actual honest-to-God terror attack on a
- 31:41Speaker 9: Jewish kindergarten in Detroit by presumably one of his constituents
- 31:45Speaker 9: in Dearborn. He said, hurt people hurt people, and likened
- 31:48Speaker 9: that guy trying to murder Jewish schoolchildren in Detroit to
- 31:51Speaker 9: Israel hitting a member of Hezbollah with a rocket in Lebanon.
- 31:55Speaker 6: That guy is probably going to be in the Senate.
- 31:57Speaker 6: I mean, that's psychotic. That's crazy.
- 31:59Speaker 9: So when we talk about this being like an actual issue,
- 32:00Speaker 9: when you put aside the funniness and the fact that
- 32:03Speaker 9: the movie is kind of a gas, like it's a
- 32:05Speaker 9: real underlying issue that everybody is whistling past the graveyard on,
- 32:08Speaker 9: which is why three quarters of the damned media coverage
- 32:10Speaker 9: on 9-11 was about Islamophobia. And I said to the
- 32:12Speaker 9: New York Times, they tweeted back at me. that if
- 32:15Speaker 9: you had come down in a spaceship as an alien
- 32:17Speaker 9: on 9-11 this year, and you just read the front
- 32:19Speaker 9: page of the New York Times, you immediately would have
- 32:21Speaker 9: assumed that 9-11 was a mass at-scale attack on Muslims
- 32:26Speaker 9: by Americans. That's what you would have assumed. Because the
- 32:28Speaker 9: headline was like, 9-11 morning takes place. And then the
- 32:30Speaker 9: second headline was, Islamophobia even worse 25 years later.
- 32:33Speaker 6: It's like, what the living? It's just the Norm Macdonald joke.
- 32:36Speaker 2: It's the Norm bit. Yeah.
- 32:38Speaker 1: You know, the odd thing after 9-11, I mean, this
- 32:40Speaker 1: is a real indictment of us.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Just as a polity.
- 32:43Speaker 1: But after 9-11, public support for Islam increased. So not
- 32:49Speaker 1: only did you not have the Islamophobic backlash that Norm
- 32:53Speaker 1: was joking about, support for Islam increased. Since 9-11, the
- 32:57Speaker 1: number of mosques in the United States has more than doubled.
- 33:00Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people are looking around
- 33:02Speaker 1: and saying, huh, maybe we don't want to be cruel.
- 33:04Speaker 1: We don't want to be unjust, but maybe we could
- 33:06Speaker 1: have used a little touch of Islamophobia. Maybe that would
- 33:09Speaker 1: have helped a little bit. I mean, so people have
- 33:11Speaker 1: this sense that, okay, the really bad elements, we got
- 33:14Speaker 1: to get them out of the country. The Trump administration,
- 33:16Speaker 1: I alluded to it a little earlier about Ilhan Omar.
- 33:19Speaker 1: They did just come out. You had Tom Holman on
- 33:21Speaker 1: TV the other day saying that there's an investigation into
- 33:25Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar, whether or not she committed immigration fraud. And
- 33:29Speaker 1: the anchor raised the suggestion and said, well, Ilhan Omar
- 33:34Speaker 1: is both a citizen and a member of Congress. Is
- 33:37Speaker 1: there a chance that she could be denaturalized and deported
- 33:41Speaker 1: and obviously thereby removed from Congress?
- 33:43Speaker 2: And Holman didn't say no. So I don't know.
- 33:46Speaker 1: A lot of people were sort of licking their chops
- 33:48Speaker 1: at this prospect.
- 33:50Speaker 2: I don't know. To me, do you guys think that's
- 33:53Speaker 2: actually going to happen?
- 33:55Speaker 8: Nah.
- 33:56Speaker 5: It should happen.
- 33:56Speaker 2: I don't think it will.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:59Speaker 2: But it should.
- 34:00Speaker 5: Of course it should. I mean, I don't even understand
- 34:04Speaker 5: the fact that she's in Congress. I mean, it's like
- 34:06Speaker 5: what Ben is talking about. The fact that she's in
- 34:07Speaker 5: Congress is like a bad dream anyway.
- 34:10Speaker 7: She literally wrote a letter to a judge. It would
- 34:14Speaker 7: happen on the other side. Like this shows how kind
- 34:17Speaker 7: of demoralized and defeated, I guess, conservatives are to some
- 34:20Speaker 7: extent that we all agree. Like our answer to that
- 34:23Speaker 7: is absolutely it should happen. And absolutely it probably won't.
- 34:28Speaker 7: And why is that? I think that shows you something,
- 34:31Speaker 7: that why wouldn't that happen? If we all agree that
- 34:34Speaker 7: it should, why wouldn't?
- 34:37Speaker 1: No, but I'll tell you why, Matt, because if we
- 34:38Speaker 1: did that, if we did that good and lawful thing
- 34:41Speaker 1: that would help the country, why then in the future...
- 34:45Speaker 1: if the left gets power, they might do an unlawful
- 34:49Speaker 1: and unjust thing to us.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Could you imagine?
- 34:52Speaker 7: Yeah, they might do what they were going to do anyway.
- 34:55Speaker 7: That's the fear. If the left gets in power, they'll
- 34:57Speaker 7: do exactly the thing that they were always going to do.
- 35:00Speaker 5: I don't know if we're demoralized. I think we expect
- 35:02Speaker 5: nothing of Congress. I mean, I notice this now that,
- 35:05Speaker 5: you know, there used to be this thing in conservative
- 35:07Speaker 5: media where people would just brush off the media. They just,
- 35:10Speaker 5: they say, well, the media is to the left, so
- 35:11Speaker 5: we have to expect that. And I would think, no,
- 35:13Speaker 5: you know, we can reform the media. We can take
- 35:15Speaker 5: them on. We can beat them. I think we have,
- 35:17Speaker 5: to a large extent, beaten the mainstream media or at
- 35:20Speaker 5: least tamed them. But, you know, we now feel this
- 35:23Speaker 5: way about Congress. And I think that that's a little
- 35:25Speaker 5: bit more legitimate. I think expecting anything to come out
- 35:27Speaker 5: of Congress, anything... Any investigation to end with an indictment,
- 35:30Speaker 5: any conversation to end with a law is just way,
- 35:34Speaker 5: way out of the reach of reality. I mean, it's
- 35:38Speaker 5: not what's happening at all. So if she were on
- 35:41Speaker 5: trial or investigated, I'd say maybe, but in Congress, eh.
- 35:45Speaker 9: By the way, the American public tends to apparently agree
- 35:48Speaker 9: with all of us, according to our friends over at Calshi,
- 35:51Speaker 9: a 16% shot that Ilhan Omar gets charged with a
- 35:53Speaker 9: federal crime this year.
- 35:55Speaker 2: And notice the number has gone down.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Notice that even you would expect, you'd hope that the
- 36:00Speaker 1: number would go up after you have the deportation czar
- 36:03Speaker 1: going on TV saying this is a possibility. But the
- 36:06Speaker 1: number actually in recent months, it's gone down. Nobody expects
- 36:09Speaker 1: that Ilhan's even going to be charged with a crime.
- 36:12Speaker 6: That's exactly right. It's also true.
- 36:14Speaker 9: Again, I come back to less about the crime that
- 36:16Speaker 9: she committed or allegedly committed by marrying her brother to
- 36:20Speaker 9: achieve his chain migration into the country, which is the allegation.
- 36:23Speaker 9: Like the fact that this woman is in Congress in
- 36:25Speaker 9: the first place is an indictment of mass migration.
- 36:27Speaker 6: It just is.
- 36:28Speaker 9: Her district elected her and she literally wrote a letter
- 36:31Speaker 9: to a judge trying to lower the sentence for a
- 36:33Speaker 9: person who tried to join ISIS. I wish that I
- 36:35Speaker 9: were joking, but that's absolutely true. She literally wrote a
- 36:38Speaker 9: letter to a judge. There's a young man who tried
- 36:39Speaker 9: to join ISIS. He was sentenced to jail time. She
- 36:42Speaker 9: wrote a sympathetic letter to the judge saying that the
- 36:44Speaker 9: cruelties of American foreign policy had caused him to want
- 36:47Speaker 9: to join ISIS. Therefore, he should be let largely off
- 36:49Speaker 9: the hook. And again, this is happening in the country
- 36:52Speaker 9: right now. It is a thing that is happening. And
- 36:55Speaker 9: I mean, Michael, you mentioned it. And since we're the
- 36:57Speaker 9: week after 9-11, you know, there are many mistakes made
- 37:00Speaker 9: in the aftermath of 9-11. I will still say, I
- 37:02Speaker 9: think one of the biggest mistakes made in the aftermath
- 37:04Speaker 9: of 9-11 is that in the days immediately following 9-11,
- 37:06Speaker 9: I mean, immediately, George W. Bush went on national television
- 37:09Speaker 9: flanked by people from the Council on American Islamic Relations
- 37:12Speaker 9: and then explained to Americans that Islam was a religion
- 37:14Speaker 9: of peace.
- 37:15Speaker 6: And that what had happened was a perversion of Islam.
- 37:17Speaker 1: He just doubled down on that to Condoleezza Rice, by
- 37:19Speaker 1: the way, just about a week ago.
- 37:20Speaker 6: It's totally insane. It's totally insane. It's crazy.
- 37:23Speaker 5: And it's the thing that drove me to start talking
- 37:28Speaker 5: about this stuff is that is a cultural problem. That
- 37:32Speaker 5: is a problem. You know, what does God's side call it?
- 37:34Speaker 5: He calls it suicidal empathy or something like that. But
- 37:36Speaker 5: it's just that that has been enforced in the minds
- 37:40Speaker 5: of people through by movie after movie, by television show,
- 37:43Speaker 5: talk show, talk show, you know, all the news media.
- 37:46Speaker 5: That somehow that's a good thing to look at a
- 37:49Speaker 5: suicide bomber or somebody who attacks a synagogue and say, well,
- 37:53Speaker 5: I have empathy because I can identify with that and
- 37:56Speaker 5: sympathize with that. That's not what empathy is supposed to be.
- 37:59Speaker 5: And it is a thing. You know, as somebody who's
- 38:02Speaker 5: written thrillers all my life, I know that when you
- 38:04Speaker 5: create a complex evildoer, you feel like you've done something good.
- 38:08Speaker 5: And I think you have. You've shown that these people
- 38:09Speaker 5: are not monsters. They're people. But that you should take
- 38:13Speaker 5: that into life by saying, yeah, you know, I really
- 38:15Speaker 5: feel for Hannibal Lecter. I really feel, you know, like
- 38:18Speaker 5: we need to give that guy some better spices for
- 38:20Speaker 5: his meat. You know, I think that that's mistaking the
- 38:22Speaker 5: message of that kind of art. I think the thing is,
- 38:25Speaker 5: you know, hunt that guy down. You're supposed to be
- 38:27Speaker 5: rooting for the good guys. And we really have, when
- 38:29Speaker 5: I say that the left is living a fantasy, that's
- 38:32Speaker 5: the fantasy. The fantasy is that if you feel empathy,
- 38:35Speaker 5: you are somehow good and you are somehow doing something good.
- 38:38Speaker 5: And in spite of what Chesterton said, the road to
- 38:40Speaker 5: hell really is paved with good intentions.
- 38:43Speaker 9: This goes back to a point that Matt was making,
- 38:45Speaker 9: and I think it's a really good point, which is
- 38:46Speaker 9: that I think that the Bush move, the Islam is
- 38:50Speaker 9: a religion of peace move, was in fact less about
- 38:53Speaker 9: the suicidal empathy for radical Islam and much more about
- 38:56Speaker 9: insecurity about pride in America. I really think that that's
- 38:59Speaker 9: the thing that's been lacking here. And I think that
- 39:01Speaker 9: that's true across the United States. I think that for
- 39:03Speaker 9: the left, again, it's not that the left predominantly loves Islam.
- 39:06Speaker 9: It's that they hate the United, like truly hate, passionately
- 39:09Speaker 9: and deeply hate the United States. And so they are
- 39:11Speaker 9: willing to not only fellow travel with, but push Islam
- 39:15Speaker 9: as some sort of solution to global problems. And even
- 39:18Speaker 9: on the right, there is now this bizarre move, this
- 39:20Speaker 9: kind of shyness about America, this desire to paint America
- 39:23Speaker 9: as inherently bad or as causative of everybody else's bad feelings.
- 39:27Speaker 9: And these are all kind of normal people who would
- 39:29Speaker 9: just be living their own lives in the middle of nowhere,
- 39:32Speaker 9: except that we really pissed them off by having a
- 39:33Speaker 9: military base in Saudi Arabia. And if only we weren't
- 39:36Speaker 9: so mean and Western, then probably they'd be fine and
- 39:38Speaker 9: happy with us.
- 39:39Speaker 6: And that's just not true.
- 39:40Speaker 9: It turns out that, as Michael said, right at the
- 39:42Speaker 9: top of the show, for some 1400 years, Islam has
- 39:44Speaker 9: been a religion of of conquest. It is not as
- 39:46Speaker 9: though people don't have independent motivations without us doing things.
- 39:50Speaker 9: When you are so self-centered and navel-gazing that you think
- 39:54Speaker 9: that every bad thing a radical Muslim does around the
- 39:56Speaker 9: world or Muslim regimes do around the world, that must
- 39:59Speaker 9: be the result of what we do. That is so self-centered, arrogant,
- 40:04Speaker 9: and again, reflective of this bizarrely you know, self-involved worldview,
- 40:09Speaker 9: that you end up destroying everything around you, not because
- 40:12Speaker 9: you're empathetic for them, but because you're so concerned with yourself.
- 40:14Speaker 9: And I think that there's a lot of that going on.
- 40:16Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this error.
- 40:18Speaker 5: And you say they truly hate America, but do they
- 40:20Speaker 5: really hate America? This is my point. You know, I
- 40:23Speaker 5: believe you. I think you're right. They truly hate America.
- 40:26Speaker 5: But if they really hated America, there's a plane leaving
- 40:28Speaker 5: every 10 minutes. You know, they could just leave. But
- 40:30Speaker 5: they don't. And they and even the ones even those
- 40:32Speaker 5: dumb celebrities who run away because, oh, my God, Trump
- 40:36Speaker 5: is coming. Godzilla Trump is coming. They come back after
- 40:39Speaker 5: a couple of months, as I well know, as a
- 40:41Speaker 5: former expatriate. there's no place better to be than this.
- 40:44Speaker 5: And I, and after a while they find that out.
- 40:46Speaker 5: So this hate, even the hatred is narcissistic fantasy. Even
- 40:50Speaker 5: the hatred is just like, if I hate America, I'm
- 40:52Speaker 5: doing something good because I'm not being, I don't know,
- 40:55Speaker 5: jingoistic or whatever it is. Uh, they feel that that's why.
- 40:58Speaker 7: I really, I really hate the term. That's why I
- 41:02Speaker 7: hate the term suicidal empathy. I mean, it's because as
- 41:05Speaker 7: you guys have covered, I agree. It's, it's actually not
- 41:07Speaker 7: empathy at all. I mean, we do them a huge
- 41:09Speaker 7: favor when we say that they're suicidally empathetic, because if
- 41:13Speaker 7: somebody was actually, had like a suicidal level of empathy, well,
- 41:18Speaker 7: that would be someone who's crazy and should not be
- 41:21Speaker 7: in power and is irrational, but it's actually a really
- 41:24Speaker 7: good person. I mean, that's someone who, like you care
- 41:26Speaker 7: so much about other people that you're driven to do
- 41:29Speaker 7: things that are self-destructive. That makes you irrational, but like,
- 41:34Speaker 7: very morally decent, if confused. And that's just not the
- 41:38Speaker 7: case here at all. I think that what we call
- 41:40Speaker 7: suicidal empathy is actually the exact opposite. It's a total
- 41:43Speaker 7: lack of empathy. I mean, it's the same thing with,
- 41:45Speaker 7: you know, you find on the left that they sympathize
- 41:49Speaker 7: with the criminals. And so that's why we have to
- 41:51Speaker 7: keep releasing the murderous black guys back out into the
- 41:57Speaker 7: public because they're so empathetic supposedly for these criminals. That's
- 42:01Speaker 7: not empathy. That's a total lack of empathy and sympathy.
- 42:04Speaker 7: for the victims of that guy. That's like, you don't
- 42:08Speaker 7: feel anything. We just went, not to take this in
- 42:11Speaker 7: a totally wrong direction, but we went through this with
- 42:13Speaker 7: the Lindsay Clancy trial. It's like, pretending that we're so
- 42:15Speaker 7: empathetic for this woman. No, no, no, you're not empathetic
- 42:17Speaker 7: for her. You don't care at all about the three
- 42:20Speaker 7: children she murdered. You're not even thinking about them. You
- 42:22Speaker 7: feel nothing for them. And, you know, it's like the
- 42:25Speaker 7: saying that, you know, cruelty for the... Mercy for the
- 42:29Speaker 7: guilty is cruelty.
- 42:30Speaker 2: To the innocent. Adam Smith.
- 42:33Speaker 1: The nicest thing I think you can say about the
- 42:35Speaker 1: libs here equally applies to George W. Bush when he
- 42:38Speaker 1: made that crazy statement that he just doubled down on
- 42:41Speaker 1: 25 years later. that Islam is a religion of peace.
- 42:44Speaker 1: And it's this kind of wish casting. When the left
- 42:48Speaker 1: wants to let the aforementioned career black criminal homeless guy
- 42:53Speaker 1: out in New York so that he can go push
- 42:55Speaker 1: more people down the subway stairs, what they're saying, the
- 42:58Speaker 1: most charitable read of what they're saying is, well, I
- 43:01Speaker 1: just prefer to think that this guy will be reformed.
- 43:05Speaker 1: I prefer to think, after the 75th time he's been arrested,
- 43:08Speaker 1: that that's it. There's not going to be a number 76.
- 43:11Speaker 1: I prefer to think that a boy really can be
- 43:14Speaker 1: a girl. That's probably the extreme version of that wish casting.
- 43:17Speaker 2: And when George W.
- 43:18Speaker 1: Bush says, Islam is a religion of peace, what he's
- 43:20Speaker 1: really saying is, I prefer to think that Islam is
- 43:23Speaker 1: a religion of peace.
- 43:24Speaker 2: And it isn't.
- 43:25Speaker 1: That's obviously belied by the entire history of Islam, from
- 43:28Speaker 1: the moment that Muhammad received his supposed... apparitions all the
- 43:32Speaker 1: way up to present day. Some religions don't spread through violence,
- 43:36Speaker 1: namely Christianity, which spreads, Christianity spreads through violence in the
- 43:40Speaker 1: sense that Christians are the victims of violence as they
- 43:43Speaker 1: are evangelizing. You know, the instances of Christian violence and evangelism,
- 43:48Speaker 1: you can count on far less than one hand throughout history,
- 43:52Speaker 1: and there was controversy over them at the time, going
- 43:54Speaker 1: back to the reign of Charlemagne, okay? With Islam, that
- 43:57Speaker 1: is just the modus operandi, and so Bush couldn't grapple
- 44:00Speaker 1: with that. I have sympathy for him, though not to
- 44:03Speaker 1: a suicidal degree, in the sense that he, He wanted
- 44:07Speaker 1: to keep the Muslims who are in America happy. He
- 44:10Speaker 1: wanted to think the best of people. He didn't want
- 44:13Speaker 1: to offend our Gulf allies, perhaps. So he said something
- 44:18Speaker 1: that isn't true. But this is what the left does.
- 44:20Speaker 1: The left's argument, all the way up through the transgender thing,
- 44:22Speaker 1: was that they seem to believe that lies are liberating.
- 44:25Speaker 1: That if we just lie and we all agree to
- 44:27Speaker 1: lie together, that we can change the world. And that
- 44:30Speaker 1: the truth is somehow oppressive. And that's entirely contrary to
- 44:34Speaker 1: what we've always believed and what is true. which is
- 44:36Speaker 1: that the truth is what sets you free. That's a
- 44:38Speaker 1: pretty foundational principle for us. And you see this in
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- 45:52Speaker 5: You make a good point, Knowles, because like, you know,
- 45:55Speaker 5: you know, that book Dominion by Tom Holland, wonderful kind
- 45:58Speaker 5: of an epoch making book almost where he traces the
- 46:02Speaker 5: just universal effect that Christianity has had on the West
- 46:04Speaker 5: and how it seeped into our pores. And one of
- 46:07Speaker 5: the reasons really that I that I became convinced of
- 46:11Speaker 5: Christianity was noticing that it was so true that it
- 46:14Speaker 5: vanished once you accepted it. Like once you accept the
- 46:17Speaker 5: ethos of Christianity, it disappears because it's so obviously the case.
- 46:21Speaker 5: So you're just living in reality. You don't have to
- 46:23Speaker 5: label it Christian. And I think that that's one of
- 46:25Speaker 5: the problems the West has in this moment when Christianity
- 46:28Speaker 5: has fallen away and when belief has fallen away is
- 46:31Speaker 5: that we forget that this is who we are and
- 46:33Speaker 5: this is why we believe what we believe. And I
- 46:35Speaker 5: am somebody who loves to anger the anti-Semites by pointing
- 46:38Speaker 5: out that it is Judeo-Christianity. It's the same ethos of Christianity.
- 46:43Speaker 5: you know, caring about other human beings as you care
- 46:45Speaker 5: for yourself. And I think that that's the Bush problem.
- 46:48Speaker 5: You know, there's that wonderful line that I think it
- 46:51Speaker 5: was William F. Buckley had about the Bushes was that
- 46:54Speaker 5: they are conservative. He is a conservative, but he's not
- 46:58Speaker 5: conservative with the big C and the big C makes
- 47:00Speaker 5: all the difference. And I think that's the thing about
- 47:02Speaker 5: George W. Bush was that he didn't really understand that
- 47:06Speaker 5: his own religion, which he was sincere about, was why
- 47:10Speaker 5: he thought the things he thought, why he stood against
- 47:12Speaker 5: the people he stood against, and why he fought the
- 47:14Speaker 5: wars he fought. And so he kind of muddied the waters,
- 47:17Speaker 5: as Ben says, he muddied them very, very quickly so
- 47:20Speaker 5: that the Babylon Bee had that great headline. I think
- 47:23Speaker 5: it was the Babylon Bee. if not the onion, where
- 47:25Speaker 5: they said, we predict victory against whoever it is we're fighting.
- 47:30Speaker 5: I think that that was a real problem with the
- 47:32Speaker 5: wars on terror, is not focusing on what exactly we
- 47:35Speaker 5: were doing.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Yeah, so we need to focus on this movie by
- 47:38Speaker 1: playing a video of the Muslim leaders saying a bunch
- 47:41Speaker 1: of crazy stuff.
- 47:42Speaker 2: That was a worse transition.
- 47:47Speaker 3: My name is Ibrahim Assad Melod. I'm an expatriate of
- 47:51Speaker 3: the Islamic State in Iraq and Al-Shar.
- 47:56Speaker 4: We who love and serve Allah fought back against the
- 48:01Speaker 4: Americans and the Zionists and established the glorious Caliphate. It
- 48:06Speaker 4: was a place where Muslims could live with dignity and
- 48:09Speaker 4: find a refuge from the scourge of secularism and the
- 48:13Speaker 4: lands of unbelief. But, unfortunately, your imperialism would.
- 48:20Speaker 3: Not allow you to leave us alone. in peace, pursuing
- 48:24Speaker 3: the ways of Allah, no. It was destroyed. But the
- 48:32Speaker 3: miracles of Allah, they never cease. For here, today, inside
- 48:40Speaker 3: of your United States, we establish.
- 48:46Speaker 4: A new Caliphate.
- 48:50Speaker 2: Maybe small.
- 48:53Speaker 3: Every soul who truly serves allah is a whole world
- 49:00Speaker 3: and only in a true caliphate can we truly serve
- 49:04Speaker 3: allah the great satan america will fall.
- 49:17Speaker 2: It's a documentary That's my main criticism of this film.
- 49:19Speaker 6: Yes, yes. I mean, well, that's kind of the point, right?
- 49:22Speaker 9: I mean, that's kind of the point, Michael, is that
- 49:24Speaker 9: actually when you watch the film, one of the things
- 49:25Speaker 9: that's weird about it, and I think that the reason why,
- 49:28Speaker 9: you know, I called it sort of a mashup between
- 49:31Speaker 9: Red Dawn and Blazing Saddles, is there are these very
- 49:34Speaker 9: funny moments that obviously are like half joking, but then
- 49:37Speaker 9: the villain actually is just saying things that people actually say, right?
- 49:41Speaker 6: I mean, like That is stuff that ISIS says.
- 49:43Speaker 9: And so when it gets called deranged by Slate, yeah,
- 49:47Speaker 9: I mean, that belief system is totally deranged. It also
- 49:49Speaker 9: happens to be the governing belief system for literally hundreds
- 49:52Speaker 9: of millions of people in a wide variety of countries
- 49:54Speaker 9: around the world. And what he's saying about Islamic caliphate
- 49:56Speaker 9: and Sharia law being a way to govern your life
- 49:59Speaker 9: and the only way that you can truly be fulfilled
- 50:01Speaker 9: as a human being is to be Muslim and to
- 50:03Speaker 9: be Muslim in a Sharia law society. That is the
- 50:05Speaker 9: case made by like Pakistan.
- 50:07Speaker 6: Okay.
- 50:07Speaker 9: That's a case that is made by Indonesia, right? These
- 50:09Speaker 9: are cases that are made all over planet earth. And
- 50:12Speaker 9: to pretend that away. is, I think, a sin. Because
- 50:15Speaker 9: when you pretend to weigh the truth, you end up
- 50:17Speaker 9: making yourself vulnerable. I mean, Drew, you threw out the
- 50:20Speaker 9: term war on terror, because that was the term, obviously,
- 50:21Speaker 9: that Bush used. You can't fight a war against a tactic.
- 50:24Speaker 9: And everyone was pointing this out with half a brain
- 50:26Speaker 9: the minute that George W. Bush started talking about this
- 50:28Speaker 9: back in 2001, 2002. War on terror is like saying
- 50:31Speaker 9: war on murder. You can't do that. You If you
- 50:39Speaker 9: had said that the war against the Nazis during World
- 50:41Speaker 9: War II was not a war against Nazis, it was
- 50:43Speaker 9: a war on Blitzkrieg, that would have made zero sense
- 50:46Speaker 9: to anybody. But again, we did like two decades of
- 50:48Speaker 9: that simply because we refused to acknowledge the elephant in
- 50:51Speaker 9: the room. And it's an elephant that we still refuse
- 50:53Speaker 9: to acknowledge. And that you called us like you're called
- 50:56Speaker 9: a slur for acknowledging the elephant in the room. That's
- 50:59Speaker 9: that's what's so frustrating about all of this.
- 51:01Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, listening to the speech.
- 51:03Speaker 5: Are you saying that Nazism is not the religion of peace?
- 51:05Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 51:06Speaker 5: I just want to be clear.
- 51:07Speaker 1: Relatively, maybe, to even the newer ideologies that are coming out.
- 51:11Speaker 1: Listening to the speech, I'm reminded of a great... It
- 51:14Speaker 1: might have been Belloc, too. I just crib all my
- 51:16Speaker 1: good stuff from Chesterton and Belloc. But it was an observation.
- 51:19Speaker 1: It's been made by many other people over history, though,
- 51:21Speaker 1: which is that one of the features of Islam that
- 51:23Speaker 1: distinguishes it from Christianity, which you very eloquently described, Drew,
- 51:27Speaker 1: is this sort of.
- 51:28Speaker 2: Ethos of reality.
- 51:29Speaker 1: One of the elements of Islam that distinguishes it is
- 51:32Speaker 1: that it's a very carnal religion. And I think Chesterton
- 51:36Speaker 1: said it appeals to carnal men. It's carnal in the
- 51:39Speaker 1: sense that when Christians think about heaven, our image of
- 51:43Speaker 1: heaven is the beatific vision. It's being with God and
- 51:46Speaker 1: loving him forever in the communion of the saints in
- 51:48Speaker 1: this way that we.
- 51:49Speaker 2: Can't possibly imagine.
- 51:50Speaker 1: We can't even begin to fathom what God has prepared
- 51:54Speaker 1: for us in heaven. So I remember when I was
- 51:56Speaker 1: a little boy, I asked my family friend, I said, hey,
- 51:59Speaker 1: will I have pizza in heaven? Because I really like pizza,
- 52:02Speaker 1: and you say heaven's where all the good stuff is,
- 52:03Speaker 1: so am I going to get pizza?
- 52:04Speaker 2: And he said, well, I guess you could, but you
- 52:06Speaker 2: won't need it or want it.
- 52:07Speaker 1: And with Islam, it kind of goes backwards, and it
- 52:11Speaker 1: substitutes all of these spiritual goods for carnal goods. That's
- 52:15Speaker 1: the idea of the 72 virgins. And so it's no
- 52:17Speaker 1: surprise that Christianity, the religion that animates and defines.
- 52:21Speaker 2: Our civilization, spreads.
- 52:24Speaker 1: in this very spiritual way, where the violence is really
- 52:26Speaker 1: just committed against us, and yet somehow the religion spreads
- 52:30Speaker 1: because of the Holy Spirit. Whereas for Islam, being carnal,
- 52:35Speaker 1: it has to spread through physical means, not through the
- 52:38Speaker 1: spiritual warfare of holding my rosary and praying, but the
- 52:43Speaker 1: physical warfare of actual bullets. Those two things don't jibe,
- 52:47Speaker 1: and so I think that's why you're having a lot
- 52:49Speaker 1: of problems of assimilation here. Did you see some of
- 52:52Speaker 1: these reports that after we've been reading for years and
- 52:55Speaker 1: years about no-go zones in Paris and throughout continental Europe
- 52:58Speaker 1: and parts of the UK, now we're getting something kind
- 53:02Speaker 1: of like that in the United States. I think a
- 53:05Speaker 1: cop said he's not going into some of these neighborhoods.
- 53:09Speaker 2: How's it going, sir?
- 53:11Speaker 10: Quick question for you.
- 53:13Speaker 2: I noticed you're giving a ticket to this car, right?
- 53:15Speaker 8: Yes.
- 53:15Speaker 10: Okay, and what about all the taxis that are double parked?
- 53:19Speaker 6: They're allowed in the type of salat.
- 53:23Speaker 10: Please say that again to the camera.
- 53:25Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 53:34Speaker 10: How do you know they're Muslim? Why is he not
- 53:38Speaker 10: allowed to? How do you know he's not praying? How
- 53:45Speaker 10: do you know that that car is not going to pray?
- 53:48Speaker 10: How do you know that the guy that drives that
- 53:49Speaker 10: car is not going to pray?
- 53:52Speaker 2: This is not the question.
- 53:53Speaker 3: Only the question is, the time of prayer, they can park.
- 53:57Speaker 3: We are not justified, and police justify that's the matter.
- 54:00Speaker 2: I have two takeaways.
- 54:01Speaker 1: One, I think it's kind of based that cops are
- 54:04Speaker 1: not giving out tickets so that people can pray.
- 54:07Speaker 2: That is awesome.
- 54:08Speaker 1: The problem is they're doing it for Muslims. If it
- 54:11Speaker 1: were around churches, I think that's way better. But there's
- 54:14Speaker 1: also clearly this two-tiered system. The Christian guy, the Jewish guy,
- 54:19Speaker 1: the atheist guy who's driving, he gets the ticket, but
- 54:22Speaker 1: the Muslim guy has a separate set of laws. I mean,
- 54:25Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're going to have Sharia law at
- 54:26Speaker 1: the federal level tomorrow, but that is clearly... incrementally moving
- 54:31Speaker 1: in that direction, isn't it?
- 54:33Speaker 7: It shows you the total fiction of the separation of
- 54:37Speaker 7: church and state myth, which we know was always kind
- 54:42Speaker 7: of mythology because that's not actually in the First Amendment,
- 54:44Speaker 7: the separation of church and state. But you had judges
- 54:48Speaker 7: in the middle of the 20th century that kind of
- 54:50Speaker 7: latched on to this phrase that, as we know, came
- 54:52Speaker 7: from a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote. It wasn't actually
- 54:54Speaker 7: a legal document. And they totally misinterpreted it. And the
- 54:59Speaker 7: way that they interpreted it for the last, what, 60
- 55:02Speaker 7: or 70 years is that separation of church and state,
- 55:06Speaker 7: it means that religion and government cannot commingle at all.
- 55:10Speaker 7: It means that you can't pray in school. It means
- 55:12Speaker 7: that you can't have the Ten Commandments up in a classroom.
- 55:15Speaker 7: You can't have the nativity scene up on public property.
- 55:18Speaker 7: Even though none of that stuff constitutes the legislature establishing
- 55:24Speaker 7: a state religion, which is the only thing That, you know,
- 55:27Speaker 7: which is all that the separation of church and state
- 55:28Speaker 7: so-called was even supposed to do. But that's what they
- 55:31Speaker 7: told us. And, you know, total separation. And now you
- 55:35Speaker 7: have this. And now you have a New York. If
- 55:37Speaker 7: you're a Muslim, you can double park. You get a
- 55:38Speaker 7: different set of laws. And you would think that all
- 55:41Speaker 7: of the, you know, all the nonprofits, all the kind
- 55:45Speaker 7: of atheist, secularist nonprofits.
- 55:47Speaker 2: That exist.
- 55:48Speaker 7: They exist for exactly this, supposedly. They exist for when
- 55:52Speaker 7: that happens, they're going to rappel down like the SWAT
- 55:55Speaker 7: team and just start filing lawsuits. And they're not doing
- 55:58Speaker 7: that here because what we discover is that the separation
- 56:00Speaker 7: of church and state thing was always about, it was
- 56:03Speaker 7: never about, you know, freedom from religion. It was always
- 56:06Speaker 7: specifically about Christianity. They wanted to, they wanted to push
- 56:09Speaker 7: Christianity in particular to out of the public sphere as
- 56:14Speaker 7: much as they could. And then what happens? You end
- 56:16Speaker 7: up with a giant vacuum. I mean, Drew, you mentioned
- 56:18Speaker 7: earlier the land acknowledgements. And it's just another form of
- 56:24Speaker 7: kind of religious worship. It's another form of religious observation.
- 56:28Speaker 7: And so we push Christianity out of the public sphere.
- 56:31Speaker 7: And then you start filling it in with this kind
- 56:34Speaker 7: of secularist religion, with the land acknowledgements. Or you end
- 56:37Speaker 7: up with radical Muslims who show up. And they take
- 56:41Speaker 7: their religion very seriously. And they're very happy to fill
- 56:45Speaker 7: in the gap. And of course, the left isn't there
- 56:46Speaker 7: to stop them because they have no interest.
- 56:48Speaker 5: And not to hammer the same point over and over again,
- 56:51Speaker 5: but you just notice that Just this guy is asking questions.
- 56:54Speaker 5: He's not trying to humiliate the officer or anything like that.
- 56:57Speaker 5: He's just trying to get the facts out of him.
- 56:59Speaker 5: He stops, I'm not talking to you. It reminded me
- 57:01Speaker 5: of Matt's film, What is a Woman? Where he would
- 57:04Speaker 5: say the most innocent thing, like, what is a woman?
- 57:06Speaker 5: And it would be like, get out, you know, get
- 57:08Speaker 5: out of the room.
- 57:09Speaker 2: Why are you asking that?
- 57:11Speaker 5: Yeah, why are you asking that? What is wrong with you?
- 57:14Speaker 5: It's just, it cannot stand the light of day, which
- 57:17Speaker 5: is what makes The Daily Wire and places like it,
- 57:20Speaker 5: if there are other places like it, It's what makes
- 57:22Speaker 5: it so important. It's just shining a light on the
- 57:24Speaker 5: absurdity of it, that it is just an imaginary world.
- 57:27Speaker 5: It's an imaginary world they're living in. It is threatening
- 57:31Speaker 5: to this world, which I happen to like, you know, it's,
- 57:33Speaker 5: it's threatening to the real world because if you live
- 57:35Speaker 5: by those imaginary values, the real world can't stand. And
- 57:39Speaker 5: it's just, it's just amazing. It's, it happens again and again.
- 57:42Speaker 9: It's incredible to see where the left sees oppression and
- 57:45Speaker 9: where they, where they see freedom.
- 57:47Speaker 6: It's kind of incredible.
- 57:48Speaker 9: There, there was, An interviewer, I think that the piece
- 57:51Speaker 9: is probably going to come out tomorrow from the New
- 57:52Speaker 9: York Times. The New York Times interviewed Dallas and they
- 57:54Speaker 9: interviewed me about the film. And one of the things
- 57:56Speaker 9: that the interviewer asked, he said, well, you know, aren't
- 57:58Speaker 9: you afraid that this is going to cause Islamophobic sentiment?
- 58:01Speaker 6: I said, well, I mean, it is simply just portraying
- 58:03Speaker 6: ISIS as ISIS.
- 58:04Speaker 9: And it is saying things that are perfectly true about
- 58:06Speaker 9: Islam as a global religious force, not talking about individual
- 58:09Speaker 9: Muslims or anything like that. And he said, well, you know,
- 58:11Speaker 9: people in Dearborn are deeply, you know, Jake Lang was
- 58:13Speaker 9: in Dearborn and people in Dearborn are deeply afraid. I said, well,
- 58:16Speaker 9: it seems to me that Jake Lang should have been
- 58:17Speaker 9: more deeply afraid considering they beat the living hell out
- 58:19Speaker 9: of him. And the reporter kind of stopped for a
- 58:22Speaker 9: second because it had literally never occurred to him that
- 58:25Speaker 9: Jake Lang having the shit kicked out of him was
- 58:27Speaker 9: actually worse than Jake Lang standing there with a sign
- 58:30Speaker 9: that was offensive to Muslims. And you don't have to
- 58:32Speaker 9: be a Jake Lang bang to acknowledge that like the
- 58:35Speaker 9: reality of physical assault is a worse thing than carrying
- 58:39Speaker 9: a sign in a place where people don't want you
- 58:41Speaker 9: to carry the sign. But this had literally never occurred
- 58:44Speaker 9: to the New York Times report. You heard him stop
- 58:47Speaker 9: on the phone as though this was the first time
- 58:48Speaker 9: anybody had ever articulated something like this. And again, I
- 58:52Speaker 9: think that it's that level of just blindness to what
- 58:56Speaker 9: actual misuse of law looks like That is making us
- 58:59Speaker 9: so vulnerable as a country. It's like, OK, if people
- 59:01Speaker 9: come here and they legitimately use the rules of the
- 59:03Speaker 9: society against us and then they violate those rules in
- 59:06Speaker 9: the same way in order to harm us and they
- 59:09Speaker 9: do both those things simultaneously. then it must be some
- 59:11Speaker 9: failing of ours. We haven't fully understood what we've done
- 59:14Speaker 9: to make that happen. And I mean, that that truly
- 59:16Speaker 9: is suicidal.
- 59:17Speaker 1: You know, it reminds me of this discourse on the
- 59:20Speaker 1: right that you hear a lot about whether the right
- 59:22Speaker 1: should be more muscular in its use of government power.
- 59:24Speaker 1: And they're all debates that have gone on for decades
- 59:27Speaker 1: on the American right. But one of the memes that's
- 59:29Speaker 1: come out of that, which I think is manifestly true,
- 59:32Speaker 1: is that if you have two parties fighting against each
- 59:34Speaker 1: other and one of them wants to wield power and
- 59:38Speaker 1: one of them doesn't want to wield power, guess which
- 59:41Speaker 1: party is going to win? It's always going to be
- 59:43Speaker 1: the party that's actually doing something that has activity, that
- 59:46Speaker 1: has a vision, that has a coalition and has momentum.
- 59:51Speaker 1: And so when you look at this scene out of
- 59:53Speaker 1: New York, where the Islamic community is saying, look, we're
- 59:57Speaker 1: going to reshape the standards and the norms. We're going
- 59:59Speaker 1: to violate the law and we'll effectively change the law
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: to accommodate us.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: What are you guys going to do about it?
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't see a lot of Christians
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: banding together saying, actually, we're going to double park during
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: lunchtime daily mass. Or, you know, I don't see a
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: broader coalition of Christians and Jews in New York which
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: is basically what New York has been for a very,
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: very long time saying, actually, we're going to have X, Y,
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: and Z series of standards. And that's going to be
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: enshrined in our law because to Matt, to your point,
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a separation of church and state,
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: never a perfect one anyway, because the legislators have to
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: have recourse to morality, which means they have to have
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: recourse to religion. And they're governing particular people who have
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: certain rituals.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: That go along with their religion.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: Like, uh, being closed on Sundays for, you know, having
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: blue laws or something like that.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: So there's never any way to do that.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: And we bury our heads in the sand and say, no,
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: we're going to have a totally neutral, secular kind of law.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: And the Muslims come in and they say, yeah, we're
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: not interested in that. What are you going to do
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: about it?
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Nothing. Okay, cool. We're going to double park.
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: This is why I think the declaration is so important.
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: The Declaration of Independence is so important because it actually
- 1:01:08Speaker 5: establishes a God that we believe in. a God who
- 1:01:10Speaker 5: installs in us the rights to life, liberty, and the
- 1:01:13Speaker 5: pursuit of happiness, which is different. That's different. Not every
- 1:01:17Speaker 5: religion actually gives you those rights and endows you with
- 1:01:19Speaker 5: those rights. And I don't think that we have any
- 1:01:21Speaker 5: business taking that out of schools. I don't think we
- 1:01:25Speaker 5: have any business taking the Bible out of schools because
- 1:01:27Speaker 5: that's where that thought comes from. I don't think we
- 1:01:29Speaker 5: have any business taking the history of Christianity and its
- 1:01:32Speaker 5: formative value in the society out of schools. And I
- 1:01:36Speaker 5: think those are fights we should definitely be fighting. We
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: should be fighting them in the courts. We should be
- 1:01:39Speaker 5: fighting them, you know, we should be getting sued. Our
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: schools should be getting sued for bringing the Bibles into class.
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