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Young Borra On Nightlife, Dating Apps, Social Media Power, and AI Taking Over · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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  Speaker 1: Get ready Staaten Island.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Cats in Footing Podcasts, a melting pot
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  Speaker 1: of footing. And now here's Jen.
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  Speaker 3: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to Kats and Pudding Podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: And today I have an awesome guest, my friend Jonas
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  Speaker 3: Young Bora Bora.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, Laura Bora, Baby.
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  Speaker 5: I love be there.
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  Speaker 4: I should go, Jung Bora.
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  Speaker 5: I say I sent it right.
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  Speaker 4: Holy Young and Randy Bora. They made Young Bora.
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  Speaker 5: I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: And I have my special guest host, missus Andrea Lopez.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so happy, thank you today gracing me with your
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  Speaker 3: beautiful present.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you so much. We've been having fun so far?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I love She's got a wide range of guests,
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  Speaker 6: so it's always fun to see who's walking into the studio.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, what are we doing today? It's very fun.
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  Speaker 5: Who is she gonna have on tonight?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 5: Jonas is a club guy.
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  Speaker 4: I am a nightclub guy.
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  Speaker 5: Nightclub guy, and he's a producer guy.
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  Speaker 4: He's a producer.
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  Speaker 5: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I presume New York as well.
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  Speaker 6: Actually, no DC, but been here long enough that I
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  Speaker 6: feel if.
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  Speaker 5: You've been over here for ten years, you're in New
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  Speaker 5: York all right. I haven't been here ten years.
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  Speaker 4: Can't say that yet.
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  Speaker 1: Close?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so will you with it? Will you ever
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  Speaker 5: go dated in New Yorker? Dated a New Yorker?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 5: I have really? Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I get all of these imports, and I'm like, where
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  Speaker 6: is guys from?
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  Speaker 5: Is that I got to say you're in New York
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  Speaker 5: by injection then?
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  Speaker 4: But I can say.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Italian by injections?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? I love this podcast already. It's like
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  Speaker 4: throwing me off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, I get it now.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, I didn't know what I was talking to, but
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  Speaker 7: I love this fantastic Hello, hell.
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  Speaker 4: My god, a little like this one.
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  Speaker 3: With this little yeah, a little suggestive, right right, So
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  Speaker 3: tell us I want to know about the New York nightlife.
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  Speaker 7: Now, sure, let's talk about it. It's different, Okay, it's
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  Speaker 7: totally different. I'm what I call like, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 7: caught in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: You are like and your beginning millennial and gen.
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  Speaker 4: Zer correct correct, correct, correct, So it's gen Z. I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to pull you, Okay.
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  Speaker 7: I wonder when they're, you know, in their forties and fifties,
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  Speaker 7: what those kids are gonna what their world's going.
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  Speaker 1: To be like.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm going to put it this way. I've
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  Speaker 4: watched some other podcasts.
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  Speaker 7: You talk to some DJs and some musicians, and most
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  Speaker 7: recently you had somebody talk about music and how stuff
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  Speaker 7: doesn't really last or have the shelf life that it
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  Speaker 7: used to. And I look at like a gen Z
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  Speaker 7: kid right now, that's you know, between fifteen and twenty five,
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  Speaker 7: right when they're fifty, when they're sixty, when they're seventy,
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  Speaker 7: when they have their anniversary parties with their friends, what's
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  Speaker 7: the music going to sound like? What is a kid
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  Speaker 7: that's twenty years old now when he's fifty years old
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  Speaker 7: or she's sixty years old. What are they going to
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  Speaker 7: play at that party?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like they're going to play gen X's music, correct,
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  Speaker 3: because that's what they're listening to.
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  Speaker 4: The lasting music.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, it kind of stopped, like i'd say, right when
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  Speaker 7: you stop selling CDs, When you stop selling a physical
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  Speaker 7: format that you could purchase, you'd have to spend your
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  Speaker 7: hard earned money to buy it.
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  Speaker 4: Once you just went to streaming. It's like it's disposable.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you don't own it anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Correct. And when you don't own something doesn't have value.
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  Speaker 5: No, it doesn't. It's disposable, like you said.
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  Speaker 4: Correct. And it's the same thing with movies.
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  Speaker 7: So going into night life, I've been, you know, doing
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  Speaker 7: this pretty much my entire adult life. I didn't think
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  Speaker 7: I was gonna ever end up in the nightlt business.
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  Speaker 7: My family's been in the restaurant business forever. My grandparents
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  Speaker 7: are in the restaurant business. When they on, my father said,
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  Speaker 7: when they came over from Italy, they were in the
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  Speaker 7: delicatessen business.
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  Speaker 5: Grew up well, not usually Germans are Well they started it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, they owned like a little grocery store deli
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  Speaker 7: right here in Midtown East where we are now, and
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  Speaker 7: then they ended up opening a place called the Lakehouse
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  Speaker 7: in Roan Kankama in Long Island. And then my father
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  Speaker 7: opened a place. My grandfather opened a place. So I've
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  Speaker 7: always been around restaurants. And then when I left college
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  Speaker 7: the first time I left college three times, I just
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  Speaker 7: loved leaving and going back. It was a great time.
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  Speaker 7: My parents wanted to kill me. They were like, what
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  Speaker 7: are you doing? But I started MODELI I'm model with
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  Speaker 7: the Ford Modeling Agency. And this is about twenty oh,
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  Speaker 7: my god, twenty two, twenty years ago, twenty three years.
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  Speaker 4: Ago now, so early two thousand, yes, correct.
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  Speaker 7: Two thousand and three. Two thousand and four was when
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  Speaker 7: I got into this. And I was never a club guy.
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  Speaker 7: Was like a nerdy athlete, if that makes any sense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I played sports, but I also played computer games. Weird
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  Speaker 7: combo but whatever. I signed to Ford and I started
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  Speaker 7: going out, and I remember the.
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  Speaker 4: First club I went to was in two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 7: It was called Pangaea, and it was on Lafayette Street,
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  Speaker 7: which is a beautiful block in Lower Manhattan. It goes
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  Speaker 7: one way uptown, right below Saint Mark's Place. And I
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  Speaker 7: walk into this club. I'm nineteen years old, and I
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  Speaker 7: have another male models idea that he gave me, but
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  Speaker 7: it wasn't his idea. It was an idea that belonged
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  Speaker 7: to somebody else who actually was in a Mandy Moore movie.
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  Speaker 7: I can't give the guy's name away because I'll get
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  Speaker 7: in trouble. But anyway, I had this guy's ida and
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  Speaker 7: I looked exactly like this dude.
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  Speaker 4: And I got into the club.
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  Speaker 5: And it wasn't Ethan Hawk, and it wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: There was another one.
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  Speaker 7: It was another one of the classic, you know, handsome
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  Speaker 7: white guys. So I go into the club and they're like, Oh,
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  Speaker 7: how you doing, And I'm like, this is beautiful, this
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  Speaker 7: is amazing. The music was great, but you know what
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  Speaker 7: the music was. It was all eighties and nineties. There's
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  Speaker 7: some disco and then yeah, there's some contemporary stuff, but
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  Speaker 7: it was all mixed together.
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  Speaker 4: And I guess the people now that.
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  Speaker 7: Are sixties in the sixties were in their forties then,
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  Speaker 7: and the people now they're in fifties. We're in their
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  Speaker 7: thirties then, and I was barely in my twenties and
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  Speaker 7: it was awesome, and I was like, this is the
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  Speaker 7: greatest mix smash of people ever there was an exclusivity
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  Speaker 7: level to get into the club. You had to get
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  Speaker 7: to that as a door person. You had to have
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  Speaker 7: some personality, you had to have some look. And I've
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  Speaker 7: been doing this for a long time. So after I
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  Speaker 7: got through all this stuff and I finished college the
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  Speaker 7: third time from soon he purchase.
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  Speaker 6: You're on the third tour now.
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  Speaker 7: Exactly exactly when I got out of school the third
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  Speaker 7: time and I started doing the night life kind of
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  Speaker 7: full time. Go things have changed and it's now more
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  Speaker 7: about what happens on social media before you go to
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  Speaker 7: the club, before you go to the experience, you already
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  Speaker 7: kind of know what's going to go on. And it's
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  Speaker 7: changed the dynamic a lot, and I think it's made
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  Speaker 7: it a little less exciting, a little less fun, oh yeah, definitely,
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  Speaker 7: and a little less intriguing. So I wish that we
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  Speaker 7: could go back in time that you could actually have
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  Speaker 7: to get involved and know people and talk to people.
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  Speaker 7: But I always think about, Okay, we are where we are,
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  Speaker 7: this is the world we live in.
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  Speaker 4: How do we make it.
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  Speaker 7: Better or how do we adjust it so people can
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  Speaker 7: interact with people again, and we're not just going to
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  Speaker 7: be replaced. And I watched the sixty minutes yesterday about
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  Speaker 7: the AI placing entry level white collar jobs, never mind
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  Speaker 7: the you know, working jobs, but forget it. We have
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  Speaker 7: to combat this because in the next five, ten, fifteen years,
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be freaking horrible. I mean, I don't know this.
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  Speaker 7: This is a big, in depth conversation. And you asked
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  Speaker 7: me about about nightlife. I think nightlife is kind of
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  Speaker 7: like just a microcosm of the whole spectrum of where
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  Speaker 7: the world's going. Yeah, right, I agree, because the way
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  Speaker 7: human beings interact with each other, correct, the way they
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  Speaker 7: meet each other, the way they start relationships with each other,
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  Speaker 7: the way they have sex with each other, the way
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  Speaker 7: they get date and marry.
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  Speaker 4: That's really everything.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's true, and everything has changed.
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  Speaker 4: And it's changing rapidly, faster than ever.
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  Speaker 5: It's very scary.
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  Speaker 7: It is because once things kind of like I told you, once,
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  Speaker 7: CDs stopped happening and everything went onto the internet, and
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  Speaker 7: everything went on social media.
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  Speaker 4: Even this podcast. It's like, how do you advertise this podcast?
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  Speaker 7: Used to if you if you were popular and you're
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  Speaker 7: you're a popular woman, and you're both beautiful and and
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  Speaker 7: speak to people, and you have a lot of friends
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  Speaker 7: but once it goes to oh, now, it's up to
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  Speaker 7: the Internet to decide. And and the Internet is decided
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  Speaker 7: by what either pure luck or advertising advertising. So if
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  Speaker 7: you don't have the money to burn through ads, if
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  Speaker 7: someone gave you a million dollars right and said we're
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  Speaker 7: going to advertise your podcast, I guarantee you'd be in
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  Speaker 7: the top five podcast instantly. Does that mean you're a
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  Speaker 7: better podcast as somebody? No, But anybody that thinks that
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  Speaker 7: the music they're hearing, the movies they're watching.
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  Speaker 4: The podcast, it is bullshit. It's paid a point.
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  Speaker 7: I think that our conversation right now is probably more
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  Speaker 7: interesting than any other fucking conversation.
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  Speaker 4: My language, I do that.
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  Speaker 3: Want good And that's why it's interesting because we're being real.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not as a script here. You and
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  Speaker 4: I just true.
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  Speaker 7: So what I'm saying is like, if you could burn
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  Speaker 7: the fuel to get the heat on this podcast where
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  Speaker 7: eyes are watching, everyone's like.
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  Speaker 4: This is great.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, but and and and look, there's always been
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  Speaker 7: medium manipulation.
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  Speaker 4: Forever, forever.
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  Speaker 7: But but the cream rose to the top way more
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  Speaker 7: than it does now.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that's true.
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  Speaker 7: And and there's so many people that can create a
• 10:23
  Speaker 7: podcast or create a song and put it out there,
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  Speaker 7: and YouTube and so many ways. Everyone's everyone's a superstar. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: everybody's except in sports, right, because sports, if you're six
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  Speaker 7: ft seven, you could throw a basketball into a hoop.
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  Speaker 5: That's the only thing. You can't fake it.
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  Speaker 4: You can't fake it in performance and mod only.
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  Speaker 3: I think is going back to the old days too,
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: because I think people are realizing and I don't want
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: to sound unpolitically correct you, I don't want to see fat.
• 10:49
  Speaker 5: People on sports illustrated. I'm sorry. I don't not saying fat.
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  Speaker 3: Wait I should say I don't want because I feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's just nobody wants to see that, and you
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  Speaker 3: don't want to promote that either.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to see that.
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  Speaker 7: I think they went from a standard of beauty that
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  Speaker 7: existed since the beginning of time. But it's okay, it
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  Speaker 7: is okay, But but look models, right, says Zoolander.
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  Speaker 4: The shapeless both.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, but models looked a certain way because human beings,
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  Speaker 7: we're attracted to certain things.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that's true.
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  Speaker 7: Men are attracted to round, shapely women are attracted to
• 11:30
  Speaker 7: sharp curves, you know, like chins and eyebrows and prominent features.
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  Speaker 7: That's just our in our anatomy, that's just just the
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  Speaker 7: way we are built.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that we went.
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  Speaker 5: We went total opposite.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what, also we went too far.
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  Speaker 3: But also not everybody could be a model, like of course,
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  Speaker 3: that's the problem.
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  Speaker 5: Is not everybody can.
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  Speaker 4: Be an actor. Not everyone can be a musician, everyone
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  Speaker 4: could be an athlete.
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  Speaker 3: And that started in my generation, by the way we
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  Speaker 3: mister Rogers when he used to say, you could be
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  Speaker 3: whatever you.
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  Speaker 5: Want to be.
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  Speaker 3: But that but I watched, but you can't correct, you can't.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where the problem comes. And I shouldn't say
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to see I mean, that was probably
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  Speaker 3: very bold statement that I said. The point is is
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  Speaker 3: that the editing guy here, don't put that in. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: I'm not when you can. Not everybody was born to
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  Speaker 3: be a model. Not everybody was born to be a singer.
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  Speaker 3: Of course I was born to be an actor.
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  Speaker 5: Not everybody could be a doctor.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, you can go through medical school, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: want the doctor that got, you know, just passed by
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  Speaker 3: this candidate.
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  Speaker 4: Teacher.
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  Speaker 7: They kill the guy that finishes in the last in
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  Speaker 7: his law school and he passes the bar.
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  Speaker 4: A lawyer.
• 12:38
  Speaker 7: So if you finish one hundred law but doesn't mean
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  Speaker 7: you're gonna be a good lawyer exactly. So the fact
• 12:43
  Speaker 7: of the matter is you're one hundred percent correct.
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  Speaker 4: We've given this.
• 12:47
  Speaker 7: Kind of everyone gets a trophy thing and it's killed killed, killed,
• 12:51
  Speaker 7: killed the world.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know when it happened, because it's not.
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  Speaker 5: You started in that with mister Rodgers. Everybody could be that.
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  Speaker 3: And then I know it started. It started when my
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: kids were kids. It started around that time, probably in
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  Speaker 3: the early two thousands.
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  Speaker 4: That really started because I grew up in the eighties
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  Speaker 4: and nineties. That when my genre.
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  Speaker 5: I should know, but I'm saying because I have kids
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  Speaker 5: that I started.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, okay, and.
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  Speaker 3: I started seeing oh everybody, no, nobody gets and everybody
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  Speaker 3: should get a troll face.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're not. You're not training anyone for real life.
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  Speaker 5: No, you trained people to be mediocre.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you're training them for, not to strive for excellence.
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  Speaker 5: That that's what the problem is.
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  Speaker 7: It also creates this dynamic of everyone thinks they deserve everything, yes,
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  Speaker 7: without having.
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  Speaker 4: To work for it, exactly.
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  Speaker 7: And once again I'm caught in the middle here, and
• 13:35
  Speaker 7: it's a very weird place for me to be and
• 13:37
  Speaker 7: people in my age range because we didn't have the
• 13:40
  Speaker 7: opportunities where you could buy a house in Harlem for
• 13:43
  Speaker 7: a dollar right, right, But we also don't have this
• 13:45
  Speaker 7: kind of like let's just trade crypto and just like
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  Speaker 7: fuck around.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, what the hell's happening?
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  Speaker 7: And my generation in about ten to fifteen years is
• 13:54
  Speaker 7: about to take over the world, you know, in terms
• 13:57
  Speaker 7: of political structure. Like Jadvance is forty years old, it's
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  Speaker 7: my age exactly. So it's going to be very interesting
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  Speaker 7: to see what happens. I'm not sure what's going to
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  Speaker 7: go down. It's going to be really really weird. And
• 14:10
  Speaker 7: like I said, this rise of AI and automation, uh,
• 14:15
  Speaker 7: cars without drivers like that freaks me out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean too.
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  Speaker 6: I just got driven in a WAYMO in Austin. Wait
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  Speaker 6: really yeah, what was that?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I was coming home from the from the bar
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  Speaker 6: and they we ordered an uber, but a Weymo pulled up.
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  Speaker 5: There was no driver.
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a driverless car or a car a car a
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  Speaker 6: driveless slur car.
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  Speaker 5: Were you pass the car without a driver? Well?
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  Speaker 6: Actually I had gotten into the back seat and I
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: was like, all right, we're going to and I realized
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: there's nobody in the in the front seat, and I'm like, guys,
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: this I had never been in a Waimo before, but
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: apparently this is like a newer thing in some of
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  Speaker 6: the newer developing cities like.
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  Speaker 5: Austin's already developed.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm talking about you know, it's not as populated
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  Speaker 6: as New York. I don't think that could a way
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  Speaker 6: moos could necessarily work in New York City.
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  Speaker 7: People somebody, like a drunk guy jumps on the hood
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  Speaker 7: of the car.
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  Speaker 4: What's happening there? That's where you need the drivers like,
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  Speaker 4: get the fuck hood of.
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  Speaker 5: The cart e rrectly exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I think it depends on the environment, the environment that
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  Speaker 3: you could put it in.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely, was it creepy getting it, because I would absolutely
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  Speaker 5: I didn't want to be in that car.
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: But I'm thinking, all right, well, you know it's it's
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: it's three in the morning.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: We're not going that far.
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: We're maybe going two miles down the road, and it's
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: just you're on one main quiet road.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: We're barely any drivers. Thank you, they say, like that.
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: Somebody, so there is an automated person in the car,
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: like you're talking to a real person, but they're talking
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: to the speakers, so they're like, all right, exit the car,
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: you guys, did it safely, and now close the doors,
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: and they tell you. I actually don't know because I
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: wasn't the one who ordered it, but because.
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: My old director of operations went to a restaurant in midtown.
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: He said, there's one human that you interact with that
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: seats you, and then this robot comes out and opens up,
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: and then you get the food from that and it's
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: on a conveyor belt from the kitchen. So there's obviously
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: people cooking, but you're served by robots. And he said,
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: at the end of the thing, the robot came out
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: and said gratuity. And he goes, who the fuck am
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: I tipping?
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Who the am I tipping?
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: Who is getting this money? And I'm like, that is crazy,
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: So who's who are you tipping? On the waymow And
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: I guarantee they're asking for gratuity? Oh absolutely, I'm sure
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: completely insane.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: It's crazy.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: But do you know, do you notice that movies always
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: prepare us for it? I mean that was in that
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: was in uh the anstwotzen Hagen movie. It was when
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: they went to mos what was that movie? And he
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: had the taxis.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: With nobody with no no, no real drivers. It was
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: a robot driving well, I.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: Mean there was that horrible Will Smith's movie was Robot.
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: I robot but like that that's exactly.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: What the robot robots exactly like.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: And by the way I test, it's cool.
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: I mean like I like the technology, but it gets
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: to a certain point where it's just like, what are
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: we doing?
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: But he even says it elon.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: He says that he doesn't like that it wants doesn't
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: want AI to become of.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Course he does one of the people that have developed AI.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: You don't have the safety guards on this crap that
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: we know what the hell is going on? But you're
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: not wrong, not wrong When you and a few years
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: from now have a robot in your house doing your
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: chores and cooking for you, who.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Knows what's going to happen? Who knows what they and
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't love this.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: No, I don't want someone watching my grandmother. That's you know,
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: like or something watching my grandmother.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: It's not it's not a human being. It doesn't.
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: Human beings are completely insane, but like human beings programming
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: something that is soulless, and there's always something going on
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: behind the scenes, the ghost in the machine, so to speak. Yes,
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: you don't know. That's a great police reference, right, but yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, listen, the world's changing. I want to make
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: the best of it. I want to see what we
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: can do to bring human interaction back to the forefront.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: I'm on my phone out of necessity. My girl wants
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: to murder.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Me because she's like, get off the screens.
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: Get off the screens, because I'm watching the game while
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: I'm texting, while I'm doing something else on the iPad.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: But that's just how people interact. And if you don't
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: in my business, if you don't interact with people all
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: the time, they're gonna go to the next person. Yes,
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna quote my buddy Andrew Goldberg, who was formerly
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: a tow group. He told me once, if you don't respond,
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: somebody else will. That's Andrew would answer. Text it three
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: thirty in the morning. He is two kids. I believe
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: he has two kids. Wife, You text me at three
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: in the morning, Hey, I got a guy. He's gonna
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: go in and he's gonna spend money at Lavo. Now
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: it's closed, but he'd answer. I'm like, how the hell
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: does this guy answer all the time? I'd be seven
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: in the morning and I'd be somewhere else. He'd be
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: in Palm Beach. He'd text all responding correct. I'm like,
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: this guy is a sleep as a machine. But that's
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: why he used the best in the business, because he
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: was a constant communicator.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: I wake up.
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: I have one hundred and twenty DMS. I'm not posting
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: thirst traps. I don't have any bikini pictures. We'll get
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: to that in a second too. But the fact of
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: the matter is people one hundred and twenty dms. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: don't care who it is. I respond even to people
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: that hate me. They're like, go fuck yourself, buddy. I'm like, yeah, cool,
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: thumbs up, you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, I get a lot of that, but
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: I'm responding. But I'm respect because I don't know.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Maybe that drives my engagement and somebody else sees me,
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: and then somebody else sees this. And I'm not a
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: full time influencer by any means. I do this because
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: I enjoy, like whatever. But staying on top, I got
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: five hundred and seventy five birthday messages. I didn't even
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: go through my Facebook messages yet because Facebook's people that
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: are a little bit older. Yeah, those are probably the
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: most important people to answer. I haven't even done that because.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Those people will still talk to you and we're like correct,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: those people will call me correct.
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: So the DMS is one thing, but there's just so
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: many ways of communicating, and it gets it gets crazy.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: We're accessible at all times, which I struggle with.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: It's a good thing, of it's a bad thing.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: It's also a bad thing.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, my my, my bosses that have the most success
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: will go off the grid for day or two at
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: a time. I would have a panic attack if I
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: don't answer my messages.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Are they Yes, that's why.
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: But they also are established to the point where they
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: don't give a ship where I'm still like, I'm still
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: I always I have a chip on my shoulder. I'm
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: always trying to prove myself. I always got to be responsive.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: I always can answer, and I actously don't want to
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: miss that message. I could lead to a few thousand
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: dollars even or a birthday party or a table and
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: I make a commission and somebody else makes money. You know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: but that is a constant stress. If I play golf
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: for four hours and I don't use my phone, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: have a panic Atteck when I.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Come I have phone.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Well, when I'm away from my business too, I have
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It's tough, it's very it's it's like I'm on vacation
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and it takes me two days to ease into vacation.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: And then by the time i'm i'm easy alcohol, I
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: have to leave. I'm like, and then I want to
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: leave because I have.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: To get home.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, I've been going for this long.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I gotta go home.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Like you know, I got stuck in Florida during the
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: snowstorm and I can't tell you, and I knew that
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: nobody was working because it was a snowstorm.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: I still wanted to come home. I still wanted to
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: come home because I.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Was frightened that I want to be home when when
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: the door's open again, you know, meanwhile, everybody's piled on
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: the snow.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Like no one's really going out, like always going out.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Right now, nobody can even get into my office because
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: you know, New York City did not shovel to get
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: us out. They have mountains of snow, but I still
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: had to get home. I was still like, I gotta go,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I gotta get out of here.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: I think there's always been some level of that, but
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: now it's more extreme because of the fact that we
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: have instant communication. Yes, I don't think human beings would
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: developed to have this.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I think that it's carousing people anxiety a lot more
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: anxiety now.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: Also back to night life, and I want talked about
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: this with you guys, dating, with meeting people.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: What do you think the night life has changed?
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Well, that's it, right.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: You used to have to be able to go out
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: and have accountability. We talked about that word before we
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: went on the air. Here, you'd ask somebody out on
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: the date, you tell them to meet me someplace. Once
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: you left the house, it's game off, Like you can't
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: get in touch with that person.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Until you get to the location. And if you're not at.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: The location, you're an asshole. You didn't show up.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Oh fuck that guy or fuck that girl. She's never
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: gonna blew me off.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: One thing you could do is call from a payphone
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: and leave a message on their answering me at their
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: home if they had one, even have one.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: This is a whole thing.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: It's like my parents had to meet each other and
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: they had to be there at the time. They said,
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: if you were going to meet your girlfriends to go
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: out to a club, you'd meet somewhere. Now it's like
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: you DM if you don't have phone service, Oh my god,
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: it's the end of the world. So that's changed the
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: way people interact tremendously and the way the.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Nightclubs and the world works in John.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: But something that you know is really crazy is the
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: way you know, women and men meet in terms of
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: the dating apps.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: But you're using social media.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: If you're an attractive woman, you have a huge leg
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: up if you want to you know, you know, advertise
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: yourself online.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: You post pictures.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: Correct, So everybody is look think about this. Janet Jackson.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: The nip slip was international headlines and it wasn't even
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: it was like a tasseled nipple, right, everyone talked about this.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: This is the craziest thing, a nip slip. Oh my god. God.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: Now, if there's an orgy on stage with Bad Bunny
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: and Rihanna like all banging.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Everyone's like, oh yeah, it's a Super Bowl halftime show. Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: that's cool. That's cool.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: So what happened desensitized?
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: Correct, But we're still a Christian nation technically, right, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: mean at the end of the day. And and now
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: New York City is more accepting. Look, we have a
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: Muslim era first Muslim mayor, so everybody's like, oh, we're
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: all accepting of shit.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: But okay, but the Muslim mayor is also more conservative
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: because that's the from But.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: At the same time almost not saying he did.
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: But he said he was for legalization and prostitution in
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: a speech before he ran, right, but then he said
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: he wasn't. But the fact of the Marris, where are
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: we as a society because at the same time we're oppressed, right, we.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Don't like sex. Sex is over there Texas table.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: And it's everyone's everyone's selling themselves now because the nip slip,
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: that's nothing.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Nothing now it's.
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: Like every bartender, every waitress, even waiters. I have a
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: guy that I play music with, handsome twenty two year
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: old guy. He makes more money on his only fans
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: selling his penis than he does with the music. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: would never I would never, twenty two think about doing
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: that because I think my life's over.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I did a few nude photo shoots.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: There's some pictures out there somewhere, some very famous photographers
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: on a camera. Okay, you know, if they can them
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: ount great whatever if I'm fifty.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: If I'm fifty five years old, that shows up like
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: it was cool for a legitimate job exactly.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: But like the fact of the matter is, now, this
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: is like, this is real income for people.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: People like I'm going to aspire to be an OnlyFans model.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Now it's just like, but that's not a career.
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: Okay, doing porn acting, I guess was a career at
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: one point because guess what, like you said, not everyone
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: is a model, not everybody, says stary, correct, you have
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: to have a certain No, no, that's gone.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I went to.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: I work with a gentleman's club, Sapphire, and my girl
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: works so I work promotions. We do a party called
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: Sins on Sunday and we went to I forgot what
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: the name of the there's a porn convention or like
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: an adult expo convention, and I went there. What used
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: to be attractive to the average person is not a
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: big boob, but nope, everything is a fetish.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: So the feti the fetish.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: Is how mainstream and the mainstream is now the fetish.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: So a girl that used to look like Britney Spears
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: that was like everybody like that, that's why she blew up.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: She was the accessible girl next door that everyone's like, well,
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: it's a fantasy, but I can maybe get that. Nope, no, no, no.
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: Now you have to be four foot eleven with eighty
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: five tattoos and seven thousand piercings, or six foot eight
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: with ginormous breasts and no ass, or your ass used
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: to be the size of a small plant.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: And everyone's into the fetishes. So the fetishes had.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: Become the mainstream thing, and the attractive normal people that
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: we would say that's pretty no one cares. It's so
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: weird and for me it's like a total mind fuck.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: But this is the whole thing. The people that have the.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Most following on the Internet get the most clout.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: A lot of those people come from money, and they
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: could pump money into their advertising to expose themselves to
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: a bigger audience. The Internet, which used to expose people
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: based off of what was what people liked, that is
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: no more. It is now based off of who gives
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: the most to meta, who gives the most to Google,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: who gives the most to whatever.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: If you can.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: Afford to advertise yourself, you are going to be seen
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: and then it is up to the world to decide
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: whether correct. But to even get to that point, you
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: could be one in a billion, like a bad bunny
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: is a one and a billion.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: You know a kid that posts stuff, but.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Even then he posted his music I think on SoundCloud,
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: and that blew up when SoundCloud was still a new platform,
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: or the algorithm rewarded you before it went corporate.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: Now it's subscription based advertising.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: If you are an amazing singer and you start posting
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: stuff as SoundCloud, you're already against everybody. Yeah, so the
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: only way to win now, even in a podcast, you
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: need to be on the platform.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: And this is a bad word.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: You can't say Christopher Columbus, but you need to be
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: the Christopher Columbus of the platform. You need to discover
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: a platform before anybody else. I was on YouTube the
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: second day it came out. I was doing joke videos
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: because I didn't know what the hell it was. I
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: was like, I dressed up like I wore a rainbow outfit.
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: I'm like, let's go shopping with me. Jonas and I
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: took my agent from the modeling age that's ahead of
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: its time.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I deleted the video why because I told my agent.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, this is stupid, but.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: You were ahead of your time.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I was posting crazy stuff. I was getting likes.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: I was like, I don't want to say I didn't
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: know what I didn't know. I was like, yeah, I
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: was on.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: I discovered America on YouTube. I literally I remember I
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: posted a basketball video of me shooting basketballs. You typed
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: in basketball on YouTube. I was like the fourth thing
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: that you would see. How insane that is the power
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: I would have had. Now I'm struggling to get anybody
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: to watch me. Same with the Instagram. Elliott to Belly
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Do you know who that is? Elliott to Belly is
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: a wealthy Jewish kid. He started posting memes on his
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: Instagram page okay, very early on sneakers and memes, not
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: stuff that he made, just memes.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Of other people. Blew up.
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: Okay, he owns Fuck Jerry. It's a big, big tiff.
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: He also owns Haha tequila. From literally just being the
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: first person on this platform doing memes. Yeah, so that's
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: insane to think about, right, You just need to be
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: the If you were the first person and one of
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: the top ten people on TikTok to start a you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: bisexual lesbian meat podcast, right, and you're on TikTok every
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: single day advertising and people type in bisexuals lesbian's talking boom.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: You just need to.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Be the first person, first present, or you need to
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: have a ton of money to catch up to everybody else.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: If not, you better do something very very creative and
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: get very very lucky and stick to one topic. I'll
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: give you an example. Go on Instagram. You want to
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: look at a picture of Lamborghini. You type in Lamborghini's.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: You go to a page. There's a nice picture of Lamborghini.
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: The next picture is of a guy with a cup
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: of coffee and his kid. You'll be like, fuck this,
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: I want Lamborghini content. You're gonna go to a page
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: specific for Lamborghinis. Once you get distracted with something else,
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: it's over. So you have to deliver one type of
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: content all the time, never straight from that content, or
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: need to have been on that platform long enough where
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: people actually think you're an interesting personality because you did
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: something original before anybody else's interesting.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: With the algorithms, now is if you're not giving useful
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: new information, nobody will find you. So you know how
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: you don't even see the people you follow anymore. It's
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: now the algorithm is suggesting things that we think you
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: would like based on whoever is breaking through the norm.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: So now they're they're encouraging me, or like my management
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: is telling me, okay, you do comedy stuff, you do impressions.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: But now people just want to only coming to you
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: for advice. So if you have advice for new comedians
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: on the rise or a new impressionists, or hey, how'd
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: you get here? So people are only interested in that
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: interesting what I know exactly what we're talking about with
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: the niche, You're like, this is my content.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep on posting about this.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Until you get past that point where you've broken through
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: the wall and now people want to see you do
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: other stuff. Like a girl that came from Canada a
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: few years ago. My buddy Nico, who was on American
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: Idolists like, oh, this girl needs a job. We got
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: her a job, and I got her job in a
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: dental office. Yeah, she said she was a comedian. She
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: had like fourteen thousan fifteen thousand that's cool. I was like, okay, yeah, comedy,
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: that's great. She started doing prank call videos, fake PRNT
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: call videos where somebody else was actually answering, so it
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: was already set up. That's and they went viral and
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: I don't know what it was, but she kept doing
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: the same thing over and over and over and over again.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: She's cute enough that people are like, oh, this is
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: a cute, funny prank call video. And now she's got
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: six hundred and seven hundred thousand followers. You have the
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: mayor had her on like doing like the when he
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: was running like a said celebrity guest, and I'm like,
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: this is insane.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like how does this happen?
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: That's where you can actually grow without paying into the algorithm.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: You got to do something that you got to keep doing.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: It's also it could take years, definitely, and it's sticking
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: to the same content over and over and over and
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: over and over again, ad nauseam, ad nauseam? Why am all?
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: And you got to do it every day every day.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: You're probably going to kill yourself after a while.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: When you don't get the clicks, you're like, oh my god,
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: it's I tried doing this. I just have too many interests.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I started doing my gen Z videos and I have
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: to do them every day, but every day because I've
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: been posted, Notice I be talking about gen sorry gen
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Ac updated by gen x videos and I love to
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: be a gen x or and why am I proud?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: And the differences and the funny should I talk about
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: and those and now that I've been doing them every day,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: every day people have been watching. I've been watching and
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: watching and watching. But I'm like every day, I'm like,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I got to think of something. Something, I got to
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: think of some most to say.
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  Speaker 7: And by the way, it's not organic because you're like
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: you're forcing yourself to think about it and then.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: It's like shit.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: But that's like a scripted show to an extent. But
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: that's that's what a reward the algorithm rewards, especially on YouTube.
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: I remember I went to le Yor Cohen, the music
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: guy who's ahead of YouTube music, and his VP told
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: me very specifically, YouTube rewards consistent content over a consistent
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: amount of time, unlike TikTok, which anything can go viral.
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: And by the way, TikTok really rewards antagonistic content, which
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: I really don't like. Yeah, the more vitriol and negative
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: and lies and slander.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: TikTok really is fed up. I really don't.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: It's also kind of mindless. And the and the Chinese
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: version of the application is a learning application, and the
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: one we get is stupid dances.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: To me, it's like this, it's trying to like you
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: and they're dumbing down.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: It's the same thing.
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: There's no only fans in China, of course, not so
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, it's like, you know what I mean,
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: like Russia, But this is what I'm saying.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: So and we're all over the place here.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: This is great talking about like oppressive society, like these
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: are the most oppressive societies and compared to us. But
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: but yes, what I'm saying, it's like, what are we
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: doing here? If you ever watched those kids in those
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: schools and trying to like the things they could do
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: math and science, they blow us out of the water. Now,
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: is creative thinking the same over there as here? No,
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: because they limit your ability so we can have more invention.
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: But on a general scale of reading and arithmetic, we're
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: getting crushed because oh wait, I can't read and I
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: can't write, and I use chat GBT to do my
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: emails and never mind. But you know what, I'll show
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: my vagina and maybe that guy at the bar that
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: I serve a drink to he'll pay me fifteen dollars
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: a month and maybe he'll DM me and send me
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: an extra fifty bucks. And you know what, maybe I'll
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: go into this. I'll go into that. That can last
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: for a few years. Yeah, when you age out of that,
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: what are you going to do now?
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we have to think about this.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I think that the next time you come back on,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I think, well, because I want to have you back
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: on again, because you we have a lot of other
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: topics that we need to talk about when you come
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: back on, because we just scratched the surface and I
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: like this. This might be viral videos talking about this
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: stuff because this is good.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: You know, I had questions about nightlife.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I know, I know we have a luminum amount of
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: time we need.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: To we need to come back and say you thought
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: that you are you are, you are going to be
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: an awesome guest, and you're awesome.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I listen.
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: I know a little bit about a lot I love that,
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: and a lot about.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Very little youthful on a podcast.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: Why to keep distracting you guys moving from topics.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Like I'm hosting you so you can.
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: Because by the time you get me into a topic,
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: if I start getting too far, I actually have to
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: give you some real depth.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm okay, I'm joking.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: But I have to have you back on again, because
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: you do. We just scratched the surface on so many
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: good time. I could send talk to you for five
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: hours like leg so we need we need to come
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: back again and I need to have you one again.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Please tell everybody where they could find you, especially the
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: club that you are that So.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I'm at this club.
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: It's one of the few remaining large clubs in New
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: York City. I listen in Manhattan, right, you know you
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: just have the Tunnel and Club USA.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Those clubs are awesome, sad, but I worked.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: I worked at the Tunnel, Oh my god.
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: But now it's called Nebul It's on forty first. We're
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: open Tuesday, Friday, Saturday, and it's just a good fun time.
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: Like you come in, you might not know who the
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: DJ is. You might know at the door for Jonas,
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: I'll be there.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Does that still work? Depends on.
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: Some people are like, oh, I'm here for Jonas and
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: I'm like, I see them out the window.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I don't want that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: I don't tell the doormat alone. But it's it's a
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: fun club and I work with Sapphire. We do an
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: industry night party on Sunday at Sapphire and third I Love,
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: I love, so.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: We have a lot of fun. So good.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I went to a I went to a party there,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: birthday party there a couple of weeks ago.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: I had fifteen hundreds of Oh hey, now I was,
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I was making it right.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: It's open, it's three locations. But on Sunday night we
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: do an industry and night party. Like last night the
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: Bachelorette got canceled, but we still we had it planned.
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: So we gave out roses and you gave your favorite
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: rose or your favorite rose, you gave your rose, your
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: favorite entertainer, and then we did like a pageant like
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: the Final Rose Ceremony.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: So so we have fun.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: And then I throw a party on Thursday night at
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: the Highlight Room in the Lower East Side at the
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: mock Hum give us a handle so they it's at
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: Young Bora, which is an ode to my parents because
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: paul a Young Randy Borah. It's like I had a
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: band once, and what we call a band. I'm like, oh,
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: John's like Van Halen, right, I'm like, oh yeah, Like
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: Young Bora.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: I'm like that's so stupid. I'm like, no one's gonna
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: know what good it's good. So I'm at Young Bora.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I'm only on really only on Instagram.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: But he will respond to your data.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: I will, and you can tell me you can fuck
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: myself and I will give you a thumbs up. Probably
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: nothing else besides the thumbs up emoji. Today I got
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: a text, but I gotta let you know about this.
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: I got text message, uh, Jonas, you are surrounded by
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: devils and thieves. It was like this whole like like
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: the world is a very dark place.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: So I wrote back. I gave him the thumbs up emoji.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what else? What else do you want to
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: tell me?
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: You know about it?
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: We got exactly it's hilarious.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: But you know what, when you when you put yourself
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: out there, you're going to take the good with the
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: That's true. It's like they want to cancel all these monuments.
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: It's like we can't name this after this person. I'm like,
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: these are human beings. It's like you want to say
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: that Abraham Lincoln was great, but he did some bad,
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: fucking fucked up ship.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he did.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: How about this, Every human being has done some bad fay.
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: If you're a human being, it's like you're not infallible.
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: So it's like the fact of the matter is, it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: like we could talk about.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: This, We'll talk about that. That's the next time to
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: talk about it, next time.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: I love it. Well, I thank you for being on
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: the show. It would be very very.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Interesting talking impressions.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm so happy that my beautiful cost will say
• 39:11
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• 39:13
  Speaker 3: me and everybody please to in and hit that subscribe
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• 39:23
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