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- 0:03Speaker 1: All systems go.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff. What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Totec and Tambo, back for another season. Not another week,
- 0:41Speaker 2: another season of the Takedown Breakdown here on the Ship
- 0:44Speaker 2: It Nation YouTube station. This week, got my guy Bellman
- 0:46Speaker 2: here with me. We're going to be breaking down all
- 0:48Speaker 2: things from the week one classic slate. We'll look at
- 0:51Speaker 2: the couple of Millie Maker winners. Shout out to my
- 0:53Speaker 2: guy Frankie Bourne getting the job done in the big
- 0:55Speaker 2: Mega Millie. Love him. I'll show some stuff off after
- 0:58Speaker 2: just how honest he is and his approach to DFS
- 1:00Speaker 2: as a whole. Just a really good dude. So Congrats
- 1:02Speaker 2: to him. Gibbons was right behind him. Another really good
- 1:04Speaker 2: dude who almost went back-to-back years. If you follow along
- 1:07Speaker 2: the Mega Millie, Blickle and I looked at it on
- 1:09Speaker 2: Leverage Lane on Saturday because Blickle, who also had a
- 1:12Speaker 2: good night last night, congrats to him in the showdown streets.
- 1:14Speaker 2: But last year, he came seventh in the tournament and
- 1:17Speaker 2: Gibbons won it. This year, Gibbons falling just short in second,
- 1:20Speaker 2: but still a really good week for him to start
- 1:21Speaker 2: the season. But we'll look at that. We'll go to
- 1:23Speaker 2: look at the $ 5 Millie over on DraftKings. And right now,
- 1:26Speaker 2: we'll have to say, Bellman, but also... Screw FanDuel, man.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Just what a bad start to the year for them.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Just absolutely wrecking dreams. I just went and checked my
- 1:33Speaker 2: portfolio to make sure. I know people say don't look,
- 1:35Speaker 2: and I probably shouldn't have. I had some really nice
- 1:37Speaker 2: Caleb lineups, but at least one hole in each one,
- 1:42Speaker 2: and it was the guy that has three O's in
- 1:44Speaker 2: his name for zeros, Colston Loveland. What an insane outcome
- 1:47Speaker 2: for a guy that scored, or for a team that
- 1:49Speaker 2: scored 50 points for Colston Loveland out there just running
- 1:52Speaker 2: high-end cardio. A lot of routes, by the way, maybe
- 1:54Speaker 2: next week. But what's going on, my friend? How was
- 1:55Speaker 2: your week one? And excited to be back in here
- 1:57Speaker 2: chatting some DFS with you.
- 1:59Speaker 3: First off, it sounds like a similar story for me
- 2:01Speaker 3: on FanDuel because I played that $ 5 and I uploaded
- 2:05Speaker 3: lineups at like, I don't know, 1130 when it was
- 2:08Speaker 3: still working. And then about an hour later, I went
- 2:11Speaker 3: to go, you know, I refreshed my stuff and changed
- 2:14Speaker 3: some stuff around and went to go re-upload and obviously
- 2:17Speaker 3: couldn't get there. I was able to get the link
- 2:20Speaker 3: to get there on my phone, but I wasn't able to.
- 2:23Speaker 1: It was too late.
- 2:24Speaker 3: I didn't have enough time. I wasn't able to get
- 2:26Speaker 3: it from my computer to my phone. Long story short.
- 2:28Speaker 3: When I looked at my lineups afterward, I had like
- 2:30Speaker 3: 35% coker and 35% flowers. And it was same type
- 2:35Speaker 3: of deal, man, going through each lineup, hoping that one
- 2:38Speaker 3: of them wasn't the Millie.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Maker because it would have just been what nightmares are
- 2:42Speaker 1: made of. You know what I mean?
- 2:43Speaker 2: The anti-sweat is that for sure. You know, the way
- 2:46Speaker 2: it goes though, that's, that's DFS for you. I mean,
- 2:48Speaker 2: a lot of people had some good scores out there.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Coach Sav, who's always been with us here on this show,
- 2:51Speaker 2: says had a lineup score 230 with a zero from Loveland.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Imagine having Ryan says, imagine having Caleb Swift, Henry, Jefferson
- 2:59Speaker 2: Watson combo, nice little mini stack there with Jefferson Watson,
- 3:02Speaker 2: by the way, because I had a really nice lineup
- 3:05Speaker 2: on DraftKings. I think it was 220 or something. And,
- 3:08Speaker 2: and with Kyler in there with that stack set up.
- 3:10Speaker 2: So just the way it goes, but yeah, Yeah, pretty
- 3:13Speaker 2: incredible stuff. So we're going to dig in. We're going
- 3:15Speaker 2: to look at a lot of stuff this week when
- 3:17Speaker 2: it comes to that. But any general takeaways off the
- 3:20Speaker 2: top for you? To me, it was like a standard
- 3:22Speaker 2: week one. I guess the big thing, and what I
- 3:24Speaker 2: mean by that, I shouldn't say it like everyone's like,
- 3:26Speaker 2: we looked last year. I told you last year means
- 3:27Speaker 2: nothing to this year. But it's funny how the offenses
- 3:30Speaker 2: were way down last year. This year, they were way up.
- 3:33Speaker 2: It was almost like defense was optional yesterday. So some
- 3:35Speaker 2: big boy scores when we get to the optimal lineup,
- 3:37Speaker 2: which I'll pull up here shortly. I believe it was 292. 0.14
- 3:42Speaker 2: with a max salary spend. And we always start there
- 3:43Speaker 2: just to just reverse engineer it. But I will say
- 3:46Speaker 2: it was a lot of high scoring out there yesterday
- 3:49Speaker 2: and a lot of like bounce back spots. I know
- 3:51Speaker 2: people don't like the word variance because it seems like
- 3:53Speaker 2: an excuse, but people, again, I've been saying this for
- 3:56Speaker 2: years now, Matt, and it's like, You can't just say, oh,
- 4:00Speaker 2: I should have never played Loveland. Why? If I told
- 4:02Speaker 2: you before the slate started, Chicago's putting up 50 points
- 4:06Speaker 2: for their team, you don't want Loveland?
- 4:08Speaker 1: Well, no.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Then they just quiet right down. I went on this.
- 4:13Speaker 2: I played the Bengals stuff, man, but I wish I didn't. Why?
- 4:16Speaker 2: They scored 33 points. It just didn't happen in the
- 4:19Speaker 2: way you thought it would or wanted to. You could
- 4:20Speaker 2: have played Chase Brown with the defense. You could have
- 4:22Speaker 2: still picked up pieces. Obviously not the start you want.
- 4:25Speaker 2: from Jamar chase, but I'm just saying like a lot
- 4:27Speaker 2: of the stuff that happened, that's my takeaway is you were,
- 4:30Speaker 2: you were in a lot of the right places, the
- 4:32Speaker 2: wrong pieces that that's could be any DFS week, but
- 4:34Speaker 2: especially in week one and earlier in the season, your,
- 4:36Speaker 2: your first takeaways before we get into it. Yeah.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Kind of the same thing plays along with that.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Just week one, everyone's healthy prices were pretty cheap. So
- 4:47Speaker 3: there were a lot of good plays all over the board.
- 4:49Speaker 3: And it seemed like a bunch of the early games
- 4:51Speaker 3: just blew up. So I was a little bit higher
- 4:55Speaker 3: on the Vegas-Miami game. That game did nothing, and you
- 4:59Speaker 3: get that when you have bad teams. Sometimes when you
- 5:01Speaker 3: have bad teams, the defenses are bad. You get both
- 5:04Speaker 3: teams going up and down the field. We didn't see
- 5:06Speaker 3: that yesterday, and you needed some of the expensive guys
- 5:10Speaker 3: that people were a little bit hesitant to pay up for. Obviously,
- 5:14Speaker 3: Gibbs smashed. He was in the smash spot. He's amazing,
- 5:16Speaker 3: but Bijan was really good. Josh Allen was amazing. You
- 5:20Speaker 3: talked about Chase not being good. That game was also weird,
- 5:23Speaker 3: so Yeah, kind of what you talked about, just a
- 5:25Speaker 3: lot of variance and a lot of outcomes that you
- 5:29Speaker 3: didn't really expect, but looking back on it, you're not surprised.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about how you put it together, too. I
- 5:35Speaker 2: know people always talk about that, and we'll get there
- 5:37Speaker 2: when we look at it. I do want to drive
- 5:38Speaker 2: up the stone here just to be able to see
- 5:41Speaker 2: it and look at it, too, but it will be
- 5:43Speaker 2: pretty interesting. By the way, Gibbs... ending up.
- 5:45Speaker 1: On the optimal.
- 5:45Speaker 2: We'll get there in a second, but a couple notes
- 5:47Speaker 2: and not about Sean. I just like that he brought
- 5:49Speaker 2: the comment up because I want to address this too
- 5:50Speaker 2: for a lot of people. Again, first off, the sign
- 5:54Speaker 2: still exists. I will say there's been some thoughts around
- 5:57Speaker 2: that sign for the last year or two of like,
- 5:59Speaker 2: obviously you could still be disappointed in bad outings or
- 6:02Speaker 2: bad days, or you win tickets and then don't capitalize.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I'll give my own story. And it's not a sob
- 6:06Speaker 2: story just to note it. Like if you think you
- 6:08Speaker 2: got smoked yesterday, imagine having two juggernaut tickets on FanDuel
- 6:13Speaker 2: and two mega tickets on DraftKings. That's a 33, 33, 30,
- 6:16Speaker 2: that's six, 7,000, 10, 11. That's over 15,000 in tickets,
- 6:21Speaker 2: a 5k FFWCQ losing all of them. And then you
- 6:25Speaker 2: get to play a head to head on Sunday or
- 6:27Speaker 2: on Sunday night for a FFWC seat where you tied
- 6:30Speaker 2: the other day. And then you lose that by six points.
- 6:32Speaker 2: I mean, we all get smoked all kinds of times. Like,
- 6:36Speaker 2: so it's not, you know, Sean, nothing to you. I
- 6:38Speaker 2: know you're just putting the comment out there, but a
- 6:40Speaker 2: couple of notes, one, A lot of people got smoked
- 6:42Speaker 2: a lot worse, and that's not about comparing. It's just
- 6:45Speaker 2: noting a lot of people get smoked for a lot
- 6:47Speaker 2: every single week. The reason I said earlier, and I'm
- 6:49Speaker 2: going to bring it up later to show you guys,
- 6:51Speaker 2: but I like Frankie because he won the Millie yesterday
- 6:53Speaker 2: and showed it, and then he posted a tracker of
- 6:56Speaker 2: his bankroll. that said not today or not this time, Satan.
- 7:00Speaker 2: And it shows the downswing that he was on going
- 7:02Speaker 2: into this Millie win. And it's beyond belief for some people.
- 7:05Speaker 2: So just noting, again, not comparing, just factoring it in.
- 7:08Speaker 2: But also it never fails to, like it fails to
- 7:11Speaker 2: amaze me when people talk about losing in DFS, let
- 7:14Speaker 2: alone NFL DFS, short sample, only 18 regular season games,
- 7:17Speaker 2: week one and 18 are kind of like, Pricing's been
- 7:20Speaker 2: out for a month. Week 18 is preseason. You lose
- 7:24Speaker 2: 80% of the time, man. Like it's like, or, or
- 7:27Speaker 2: hopefully less, but I'm saying like the best players may
- 7:29Speaker 2: be cashing in 25% of the time. So it's like,
- 7:32Speaker 2: to me, 25, 30, my point being, you're going to
- 7:34Speaker 2: lose all the time. You just have to move on
- 7:37Speaker 2: to the next one. So, Not to Sean, just noting
- 7:40Speaker 2: it in general, because I think that's a common sentiment
- 7:42Speaker 2: when people show up on Monday, almost everybody loses. Very
- 7:45Speaker 2: few people did not get smoked yesterday. Like very few
- 7:48Speaker 2: people won. I don't know, Matt, if you have any
- 7:50Speaker 2: rebuttal for that, but while I bring up everything else,
- 7:52Speaker 2: I take away to bring to the stream today because
- 7:55Speaker 2: I want people to know that's completely normal. It's not fun.
- 7:58Speaker 2: We don't like to get smoked. We don't play to lose,
- 8:00Speaker 2: but you will lose way more often than you're going
- 8:02Speaker 2: to win. So you have to get used to that
- 8:04Speaker 2: or it can really fail you as the season goes on.
- 8:06Speaker 2: You got to have that mindset.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:08Speaker 3: And it's definitely no fun to talk about it, but
- 8:10Speaker 3: that's the nature of DFS in general, especially when we
- 8:13Speaker 3: talk about DFS nowadays, we're not talking about cash games
- 8:17Speaker 3: and then GPPs, like you said, you're just not going
- 8:20Speaker 3: to win that often. It's all about taking advantage of
- 8:23Speaker 3: the spots you do win in and how much can
- 8:26Speaker 3: you win when you do have lineups up top, knowing
- 8:29Speaker 3: that most weeks aren't going to be great.
- 8:33Speaker 1: And, you know, if you can, Make some changes.
- 8:35Speaker 3: That's why we talk about late swap and making some
- 8:37Speaker 3: changes to get some lineups into min cash, because that
- 8:40Speaker 3: can just keep you in the game.
- 8:41Speaker 1: So it all plays a hand in each other.
- 8:44Speaker 3: But yeah, I think people don't really like talking about it,
- 8:47Speaker 3: but it's important to be cognizant of. And yeah, I mean,
- 8:51Speaker 3: that sucks. You had a really rough day yesterday. I
- 8:54Speaker 3: certainly feel for you.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Not as if my day was any better. You know
- 8:58Speaker 1: what I mean? So like, I totally get it.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Nobody cares. Like I say, everybody has their story, but
- 9:03Speaker 2: the bottom line is it's like, it's literally just part
- 9:05Speaker 2: of the plan. And this is why the next point
- 9:07Speaker 2: Sean made again. I mean, there's lots of nades is
- 9:09Speaker 2: talking about, you know, coach says to happy to back.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Nate said he won 14 cash one. You're going to
- 9:12Speaker 2: lose anyway, not having coker lines, all that stuff.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Yes.
- 9:15Speaker 2: But I like this one because it's, Couple notes. One,
- 9:17Speaker 2: I saw one guy in the Discord say, if I
- 9:19Speaker 2: don't win this week, I'm going to be screwed for
- 9:21Speaker 2: the rest of the season. Well, tell me you put
- 9:23Speaker 2: way too much in without telling me in week one.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Not to be rude, just factual. You should be spacing
- 9:28Speaker 2: it out. If you plan to play the entire season,
- 9:30Speaker 2: you got to be... having 18 weeks divided by your
- 9:33Speaker 2: bankroll or something like that. But the good news is, yeah,
- 9:35Speaker 2: like that's why we play for the tickets. And that's
- 9:38Speaker 2: why the bankroll management is key. There's no, I'm not dead.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I'm right back in it tonight. I can win FFWC tonight.
- 9:42Speaker 2: I got four entries in the 490 that I had
- 9:45Speaker 2: a couple of tickets for, and I got a couple
- 9:46Speaker 2: more to play that tonight. So it's like, I could
- 9:48Speaker 2: win one outright in a tournament. I just won it
- 9:51Speaker 2: last week. Who says I can't do it again? So
- 9:52Speaker 2: my point is everyone has their story, but you just
- 9:55Speaker 2: got to move on and you have to have the
- 9:57Speaker 2: mindset too. And remember that like, typically everything works.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Out.
- 10:00Speaker 2: The worst days happen. If somebody's, you know, I'm older
- 10:03Speaker 2: now and I know Matt, I don't want to date
- 10:04Speaker 2: us too much. We want to, we're saying we're young,
- 10:06Speaker 2: but we're older in the crew. Lots of younger players
- 10:08Speaker 2: out there. It's like, if you have your first breakup,
- 10:10Speaker 2: like you think life is going to be over and
- 10:12Speaker 2: then you're right back here. Like I've had multiples, like
- 10:14Speaker 2: you get every, and then everything always works out. You
- 10:17Speaker 2: just have to have that mindset, that mantra of like
- 10:19Speaker 2: something better is coming. Maybe these all didn't go my
- 10:22Speaker 2: way because next weekend I win the Millie maker. Then
- 10:24Speaker 2: do you think I will give a shit about how
- 10:25Speaker 2: yesterday went? So make sure you can stay in the game.
- 10:28Speaker 2: So you can have the event happen. A buddy of
- 10:30Speaker 2: mine said yesterday, it's not a matter of if it's
- 10:32Speaker 2: a matter of when and how much, and that's, I
- 10:35Speaker 2: love that line too. It's like, you know, just stay
- 10:37Speaker 2: in the game and you can be there for when
- 10:39Speaker 2: it pays off. So I love that.
- 10:40Speaker 3: And I just think it's so important to have that
- 10:42Speaker 3: mindset because at least for me personally, like even just
- 10:46Speaker 3: building DFS lineups. And again, I'm doing a lot of
- 10:49Speaker 3: stuff by hand, putting it into the computer stuff. Like
- 10:52Speaker 3: Just feeling good about it. You know, I play better
- 10:55Speaker 3: when I'm feeling good about it. And to what you're
- 10:58Speaker 3: talking about, like being able to put bad days behind
- 11:02Speaker 3: you easier and just being able to compartmentalize really is
- 11:06Speaker 3: very helpful in this game.
- 11:08Speaker 2: You and I talked about this too. So I would
- 11:09Speaker 2: like doing the show. Nades obviously jumps on with me
- 11:12Speaker 2: a lot as well, but we talk about, it's almost
- 11:13Speaker 2: like a cathartic to like, come on here and just
- 11:16Speaker 2: be able to vent with the mindset and like to
- 11:18Speaker 2: stay fresh, to stay ready, to say like, it's understanding.
- 11:20Speaker 2: We get it right. We understand it. We're here for everybody.
- 11:23Speaker 2: We want people to do well. If we don't do well,
- 11:25Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, we all have
- 11:27Speaker 2: a story. And again, nobody cares. So we just get
- 11:29Speaker 2: back to work and that's what we're doing here. I
- 11:31Speaker 2: will tell people I've stressed this a bunch throughout the season.
- 11:34Speaker 2: This is going to be the go-to. I give the pitch.
- 11:36Speaker 2: This is the first of the season though. So I'll
- 11:37Speaker 2: tell people the story. I get pitched as one of
- 11:40Speaker 2: the owners of a site on a bunch of new tools,
- 11:43Speaker 2: AI sports betting, this thing with the data in the backend,
- 11:47Speaker 2: all these different tools that people pitch me. This was
- 11:50Speaker 2: the one that I chose out of like 50 that
- 11:52Speaker 2: I got presented. And you know, Nate says it right away.
- 11:55Speaker 2: This is elite. If you haven't used this yet, you
- 11:57Speaker 2: don't even need to use the promo. You can go
- 11:59Speaker 2: on and try it for free, but there is a
- 12:02Speaker 2: special promo exclusive to ship at nation members. So again, there's,
- 12:05Speaker 2: it's not really a pitch. You can go on there
- 12:06Speaker 2: and use it for free. DFSOS.com. It's a DFS operating system.
- 12:11Speaker 2: I'm going to show you the dashboard on this episode.
- 12:12Speaker 2: I'm going to go through how we're using it. And
- 12:14Speaker 2: there is so much more coming. The owner of this, Josh,
- 12:17Speaker 2: is an amazing dude. I've met him at live finals.
- 12:19Speaker 2: He's been crushing it in the MMA streets, Tiger Vol.
- 12:22Speaker 2: I forget the number, but Tiger Vol 3, maybe I
- 12:24Speaker 2: want to say, but anyway, awesome dude. Met him at
- 12:26Speaker 2: a live final before. He's been in the streets for
- 12:29Speaker 2: a long time himself, and he wanted something where he
- 12:31Speaker 2: could kind of have everything in one place. It's completely
- 12:34Speaker 2: complimentary to your stack. I don't care if you're a
- 12:36Speaker 2: member at ShipIt Nation, ETR, Stochastic, Rotogrinders, whatever. You can
- 12:41Speaker 2: use this. It's got everything customizable. But just of note,
- 12:44Speaker 2: if you do end up using it and want to
- 12:46Speaker 2: use code SHIPIT, I can promise you when it goes
- 12:50Speaker 2: to 99, it's still going to be a steal because
- 12:52Speaker 2: he's coming out with an insane tool that will be
- 12:54Speaker 2: featuring on Ship It Nation. Hopefully by week three, I've
- 12:58Speaker 2: already got the preview of it behind the scenes and
- 13:00Speaker 2: it's insane. It'll be, it'll change the DFS game for
- 13:02Speaker 2: everybody out there, but already what you can use it
- 13:04Speaker 2: for code ship. It locks you in the entire NFL
- 13:07Speaker 2: season at 29 a month, which is the same price
- 13:10Speaker 2: as pro and And you get all the stuff with
- 13:13Speaker 2: the player analysis, which I'm going to show you. You
- 13:15Speaker 2: get the AI analyst, which is just a way to
- 13:17Speaker 2: basically take the data and say, work it in my favor.
- 13:19Speaker 2: It's more AI assisted than it is like people think
- 13:22Speaker 2: AI slop. That's what the 49 other presentations were about.
- 13:26Speaker 2: You can build out some custom projection sets with your stuff.
- 13:28Speaker 2: You can get everything that you're looking for and more inside.
- 13:32Speaker 2: But let me go into it for a second here
- 13:34Speaker 2: and go to the dashboard. And I'm logged in. So
- 13:37Speaker 2: you can own your dashboard. Welcome back toe tag and Tambo.
- 13:40Speaker 2: You can claim your profile. You can, you know, there's
- 13:42Speaker 2: a social aspect to it. Like if you go to
- 13:44Speaker 2: player profiles on here and you want to look up, um,
- 13:47Speaker 2: you know, M Bellman nine, six, seven, I can, you know,
- 13:52Speaker 2: your pictures on there. It's linked to your X account, right?
- 13:55Speaker 2: I can go follow you on X. I can find out,
- 13:57Speaker 2: you can go come on here and claim your profile.
- 13:59Speaker 2: But if we go to perfect lineup, it's already here, right?
- 14:03Speaker 2: So if I go to NFL, um, Right away. Boom.
- 14:07Speaker 2: NFL 2026, September 13th, main slate.
- 14:09Speaker 3: 292.14.
- 14:10Speaker 2: We're going to break this down in a second. But
- 14:13Speaker 2: then we're able to do a slate review. You can
- 14:15Speaker 2: go to the contest lobby and sort by EV. If
- 14:18Speaker 2: you're ever looking for those tournaments like free rolls and
- 14:20Speaker 2: things like that where you want to know what are
- 14:21Speaker 2: the EV tournaments or where's the link to the contest,
- 14:24Speaker 2: it's connected right to DraftKings. You can pull the link
- 14:27Speaker 2: up and be right in it and something on a
- 14:29Speaker 2: tournament that maybe others are missing out on. If you're
- 14:32Speaker 2: looking for news, I use this all over the weekend.
- 14:34Speaker 2: If you're looking for news on certain players that you
- 14:37Speaker 2: want to find out about, and yesterday we were using
- 14:39Speaker 2: it for different players, you just type it in. It'll
- 14:41Speaker 2: have everything there. You can go by sport, by position, usage, weather, injury,
- 14:45Speaker 2: whatever it wants. You can backtest. Let's say you use
- 14:48Speaker 2: two different sites for fantasy points or for ownership. You
- 14:52Speaker 2: can backtest those CSVs. It'll actually tell you which one
- 14:55Speaker 2: was more accurate. You know, when Sheets goes in our
- 14:57Speaker 2: Discord and says, hey, the Ship It Nation PGA projections
- 15:00Speaker 2: and ownership are super accurate. You should use those in
- 15:03Speaker 2: your optimizer. People always forget, like, you know, filling your
- 15:06Speaker 2: optimizer with the best inputs is a good idea. You
- 15:09Speaker 2: can find that out with the fantasy points and the
- 15:11Speaker 2: ownership backtesting. We're using the perfect lineups. You can see
- 15:15Speaker 2: the player profiles, like I talked about, and we'll pull
- 15:16Speaker 2: those up in a minute. There's some beta testing on
- 15:19Speaker 2: certain things that you can check out. There's weather. You
- 15:22Speaker 2: want the baseball weather for the slate. You can go
- 15:25Speaker 2: down and see the exact park, the factors, all the
- 15:28Speaker 2: different stuff with it. The hourly forecasts are updating automatically.
- 15:31Speaker 2: So if you need it, it's like everything you could
- 15:32Speaker 2: possibly need in one place. And like I said, there's
- 15:34Speaker 2: a really special preview that he's got coming up. So
- 15:37Speaker 2: check it out if you haven't done so already. I'm
- 15:39Speaker 2: going to move over to the perfect lineup, Matt. And
- 15:41Speaker 2: everyone who's watching us for the first time is probably
- 15:43Speaker 2: thinking like, that's the optimal. So be it. What actually won?
- 15:46Speaker 2: We'll pull that up in a second, starting with the Millie.
- 15:51Speaker 2: for the $ 5 over here where J. Wusau, 28, won. J. Wusau, 28,
- 15:56Speaker 2: congrats to you with 273.98 for a million bucks with
- 16:00Speaker 2: a 50K spend. We'll go into that one when we
- 16:02Speaker 2: get there. But here's the optimal, Matt. Any thoughts on this?
- 16:06Speaker 2: We've got a Bryce Young, Coker, run it back with Swift.
- 16:10Speaker 2: You plug in the most optimal guy with Gibbs. You've got, um,
- 16:14Speaker 2: Olave across from him. You get the Bengals D if
- 16:17Speaker 2: you're not on any of the Bengals stack, you get
- 16:19Speaker 2: the Goddard play. If you're not on any of the
- 16:21Speaker 2: Smith hurts or Barkley stuff, you get Watson as a one-off.
- 16:25Speaker 2: And then you get Derek Henry as a, you know,
- 16:27Speaker 2: a big time upside one-off, which that paid off very
- 16:29Speaker 2: well yesterday, but thoughts on this lineup here. And again,
- 16:32Speaker 2: nobody had it. It's just noting like it actually worked
- 16:35Speaker 2: out yesterday that a 50 K lineup with you know,
- 16:37Speaker 2: everything on it that made sense, looks like a pretty
- 16:39Speaker 2: good lineup for tournaments.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Yeah, probably really rare in that regard.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Didn't even think about that, but that it all adds
- 16:46Speaker 3: up to 50. But the first thing that I think about, like,
- 16:52Speaker 3: there are some low-owned guys, certainly. Like, Watson is low-owned.
- 16:57Speaker 3: Bryce Young is low-owned. But there isn't anyone that's, like,
- 17:01Speaker 3: crazy low-owned that no one played that came out of
- 17:04Speaker 3: nowhere in week one. Like, these are all guys that
- 17:06Speaker 3: were played not a lot, you know, a bunch of
- 17:09Speaker 3: them not as one-offs, but certainly in stacks. And, you know,
- 17:13Speaker 3: an 89-yard catch from Watson in the first quarter certainly
- 17:16Speaker 3: doesn't hurt his chances of being optimal. Henry with a,
- 17:21Speaker 3: you know, looks like he's found the fountain of youth.
- 17:23Speaker 3: That whole offense, like, there were a couple quarterbacks that
- 17:28Speaker 3: could have been optimal, that would have been optimal on
- 17:29Speaker 3: a lot of slates. You mentioned Caleb earlier. Bryce Young
- 17:32Speaker 3: is obviously the guy. Josh Allen, a.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Bunch of really, really good quarterback performances yesterday.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Yeah, that game ended up on most of them. Again,
- 17:43Speaker 2: people always look at this and say, like, why the
- 17:44Speaker 2: hell would you even analyze this? It's just to work backwards, right?
- 17:47Speaker 2: It's reverse engineering how we're thinking about it and looking
- 17:49Speaker 2: at it. But I will say from a roster construction
- 17:52Speaker 2: data perspective, combined with the week one comments we made
- 17:57Speaker 2: about kind of just being able to plug some of
- 17:59Speaker 2: these guys in, well, it's like, if you think about it,
- 18:02Speaker 2: a lot of people started with Gibbs and Olave, but
- 18:04Speaker 2: then what did they do after that? A lot of
- 18:07Speaker 2: people game stacked it, right? If you're going to use
- 18:09Speaker 2: that combo... then why not just get Bryce with one
- 18:13Speaker 2: receiver with a run back? All right, I can get
- 18:15Speaker 2: some action in that game. Well, where am I not going?
- 18:18Speaker 2: I'm not on Lamar. I'm not on Zay. I'm not
- 18:20Speaker 2: on Herbert. I'm not on McConkie. I'm not on Burrow
- 18:24Speaker 2: and Chase. All right, well, how would that game fail?
- 18:27Speaker 2: All right, the Bengals D could be plugged in. This
- 18:29Speaker 2: is again, a results oriented finish, but I'm just noting
- 18:31Speaker 2: like how you can think about it. If I'm not
- 18:33Speaker 2: going to be on those other guys, why not get
- 18:35Speaker 2: a guy like Henry? It's not like I'm fading Gibbs
- 18:37Speaker 2: or moving off and I'm just going to another running back.
- 18:39Speaker 2: That's fine. In week one, Watson as a one-off in
- 18:42Speaker 2: that game could have been other guys, by the way,
- 18:45Speaker 2: like who else is down here? Let's look and see
- 18:49Speaker 2: what else did we get? Anybody else that popped up
- 18:51Speaker 2: that we can see here? You could move certain guys around. Obviously,
- 18:54Speaker 2: Gentee was 66 if you moved the flex stuff around
- 18:57Speaker 2: and and made other things work, but at least in
- 19:00Speaker 2: the top five, it's kind of all the same stuff. Jeffrey,
- 19:01Speaker 2: here's one finally with the Jefferson mini. And these are
- 19:04Speaker 2: the alternate, like they're all staying well above two 90
- 19:07Speaker 2: and you could go deeper, but just to note it again,
- 19:08Speaker 2: it's pretty much the same stuff, right? You're gonna see
- 19:10Speaker 2: Bryce young. coker swift there's the mini that a lot
- 19:14Speaker 2: of people could use this lineup faded um the detroit
- 19:17Speaker 2: game we talked about how it could be spread out
- 19:19Speaker 2: but it still hit the cincy piece it still hit
- 19:21Speaker 2: goddard it still spent over 49k so on a week
- 19:24Speaker 2: one five dollar milli something like that this would be
- 19:26Speaker 2: plenty fine to be found from within and then genti
- 19:29Speaker 2: if you're not on meyer it's fine to go to
- 19:31Speaker 2: him at you know lower ownership and just absolutely crushed
- 19:33Speaker 2: so i think all that makes sense to me to
- 19:35Speaker 2: work backwards from anything else you want to take away
- 19:37Speaker 2: there any questions in the chat that you saw that
- 19:39Speaker 2: you want to hit on but i want to see just.
- 19:41Speaker 3: So The one thing that I definitely think is important
- 19:46Speaker 3: to touch on, and this is every week, every sport
- 19:49Speaker 3: in DFS, really. but the Zay and Lamar having a
- 19:52Speaker 3: second half together would have changed the slate.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Those are facts. I mean, those guys.
- 19:56Speaker 3: Absolutely nuked Zay was looking like he was going to
- 19:59Speaker 3: be the highest score on the slate. If he had
- 20:00Speaker 3: stayed in that game, who knows what would have happened,
- 20:03Speaker 3: but you also get McConkie getting.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Hurt late, which I know affected Shalhoub. So like, That's
- 20:10Speaker 1: the give.
- 20:10Speaker 3: And take that NFL DFS injuries happen, but certainly Zay
- 20:15Speaker 3: not being hurt changes the entire complexity of the slate.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that the setup I would say too
- 20:23Speaker 2: is like, and I saw actually congrats to Shalhoub. Nice run.
- 20:27Speaker 2: He was up there. I know he'll be disappointed with
- 20:28Speaker 2: that finish. I actually finished 20th or 21st or something
- 20:31Speaker 2: in the 250 milli on FanDuel with one of the
- 20:34Speaker 2: lineups that I did have from previous that again, it was,
- 20:36Speaker 2: I would have overrode it. Like it was definitely not
- 20:38Speaker 2: what I was rolling with, but at the end of
- 20:40Speaker 2: the day, we'll take it. I'm just noting I have
- 20:42Speaker 2: McConkie and Gentee. Everyone had Gentee, but I had the
- 20:45Speaker 2: highest McConkie. at the end right when the injury happens
- 20:48Speaker 2: so it happens the main thing about that stuff though
- 20:50Speaker 2: too is just a quick comment because i'm always a
- 20:53Speaker 2: realist about this stuff is like nothing says well he
- 20:56Speaker 2: was killing them yeah he was he already got his
- 20:58Speaker 2: points so it's like it could have easily been qj
- 20:59Speaker 2: like him being out there could have also freed up
- 21:02Speaker 2: qj for something instead of now them being able to
- 21:04Speaker 2: clamp down it's like the second half was zay it
- 21:07Speaker 2: changes the slate in a bunch of ways with no
- 21:09Speaker 2: zay i'm sorry i'm saying like it could be more
- 21:10Speaker 2: uh it could have been more zay that hurt henry
- 21:14Speaker 2: and now henry.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Right totally I didn't just mean, yeah, you're right. Yeah, totally.
- 21:20Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I think that's important. So what
- 21:22Speaker 2: do people say? Did FanDuel just note something or no?
- 21:26Speaker 2: DraftKings is coming at FanDuel right now. Said, um, I
- 21:31Speaker 2: think Peter Jennings talked about it. We always talk about
- 21:33Speaker 2: the industry. CSU Ram had posted, what a sad state
- 21:35Speaker 2: of affairs from FanDuel. The site was unusable on Sunday
- 21:38Speaker 2: morning and there has been no resolution offered. Personally, I
- 21:42Speaker 2: reserved entries into contests and wasn't able to edit anything.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Every dollar lit on fire. I can tell you that.
- 21:47Speaker 2: Speaking of Gibbons and All those guys, I like in
- 21:49Speaker 2: my juggernaut, I had the dummies in and they didn't
- 21:53Speaker 2: get anywhere. Cause they were that, but I'm saying like
- 21:54Speaker 2: at the bottom of the barrel was all, there was
- 21:57Speaker 2: 40 entries with zeros. They didn't even get there. They
- 21:59Speaker 2: didn't even get to edit it.
- 22:01Speaker 3: And like, but what people aren't talking about today, also
- 22:04Speaker 3: the people that won those contests, like those people aren't like,
- 22:08Speaker 3: let me give them that money back because other people.
- 22:10Speaker 2: No, no, they're not going to eat it though. Somebody said, totally.
- 22:14Speaker 3: But I'm just saying like, you know, if you play
- 22:17Speaker 3: DFS long enough, luck is going to be on your
- 22:20Speaker 3: favor sometimes.
- 22:21Speaker 1: And it's going to be against you.
- 22:21Speaker 3: Sometimes the people who got their lineups in FanDuel yesterday
- 22:25Speaker 3: before the error and were able to change whatever they
- 22:28Speaker 3: wanted had a massive, massive, like unknown advantage over the field,
- 22:34Speaker 3: which should never happen, but.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Out your blessings if you're one of those winners, you know? Yeah.
- 22:39Speaker 2: The thing is about this too, I don't disagree. Like
- 22:41Speaker 2: I really wish, and you know, we, we all have
- 22:43Speaker 2: a voice and we can use it for as much
- 22:44Speaker 2: as we want, but in the world that we live in,
- 22:47Speaker 2: and then I should say like the niche that we
- 22:49Speaker 2: live in and the space that we play within, um,
- 22:52Speaker 2: EV squeezers are out there no matter what. So you
- 22:54Speaker 2: will never see. It's like when people say, don't go
- 22:57Speaker 2: to the gas station for a week. Everybody take a
- 22:59Speaker 2: week off from going to the gas station for your
- 23:02Speaker 2: vehicle and just watch what happens to them. The price
- 23:04Speaker 2: will have to come down because they just get hit
- 23:06Speaker 2: so hard, but you can't stop people. They're going to
- 23:08Speaker 2: the gas station. It's just going to be a constant flow.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Nobody's watching those tournaments sit hundreds and thousands of dollars
- 23:15Speaker 2: short of hitting and not filling them. So it's just
- 23:19Speaker 2: the way it goes or not going and running to
- 23:21Speaker 2: them and still playing them. So DraftKings posted those. That's
- 23:24Speaker 2: what I was getting to. I appreciate the breakdown here.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Somebody said, so DraftKings posted and said, your DFS home
- 23:30Speaker 2: should probably be somewhere that treats DFS like it matters.
- 23:33Speaker 2: We've noticed other companies just don't care. We're not shocked.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Biggest prize pools, more ways to play, better customer service,
- 23:40Speaker 2: always choose DraftKings. I think most people already do though.
- 23:44Speaker 2: So it's like a, I like it because from a
- 23:46Speaker 2: marketing standpoint, there's no better time to stop on your
- 23:48Speaker 2: competition than when it actually warrants it. I'm not big
- 23:51Speaker 2: on it as a whole or in general, but I
- 23:52Speaker 2: think it's definitely important. and said, you know, Leone just posted.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Congrats to him. Huge day yesterday as well. And I
- 23:59Speaker 2: don't know if we'll find his, but he won like
- 24:00Speaker 2: the 5K Thunderdome, the smaller one. And, you know, he's
- 24:04Speaker 2: a crusher at those. So congrats to him. He posted,
- 24:07Speaker 2: if you were affected by the FanDuel outage yesterday, make
- 24:09Speaker 2: sure to contact support ASAP. Blow them up. Yeah, who cares?
- 24:12Speaker 2: I know people think it goes nowhere. Blow them up though.
- 24:14Speaker 2: He says, always got to get that paper trail started.
- 24:16Speaker 2: You should at least receive the equivalent of your net
- 24:18Speaker 2: losses in bonus money to be used in week two.
- 24:22Speaker 2: I agree. And I think that's a fair solution. Eat it.
- 24:25Speaker 2: You got to eat it and tell us you got
- 24:27Speaker 2: to use it the next week. I don't even care.
- 24:28Speaker 2: We use it week one. Let's use it week two.
- 24:30Speaker 2: But it's like at the end of the day, get
- 24:32Speaker 2: it taken care of for your people, man. It's like,
- 24:34Speaker 2: it's just sick that they don't do anything though. So whatever,
- 24:38Speaker 2: we'll see. But let's keep it rolling here. Let's go back.
- 24:41Speaker 2: You know, Mr. Ross says, yeah, I need the receipts
- 24:44Speaker 2: for sure. So Let's go back. What I went to
- 24:48Speaker 2: next here, I'm going to share this, but if you
- 24:50Speaker 2: guys go to the slate review, And I double clicked
- 24:55Speaker 2: it just to show you where I'm at. You'll see here,
- 24:56Speaker 2: it comes out like this, right? If you're not on
- 24:59Speaker 2: it already, you just change it to all months for
- 25:01Speaker 2: NFL tour. Luckily we're in the first month in the future,
- 25:02Speaker 2: but you can go back. This is what I don't
- 25:04Speaker 2: think people don't understand. There's four years of data. Most
- 25:07Speaker 2: people can't scrape any of this stuff or have it
- 25:09Speaker 2: all in one place for you. That's why this is cool.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Somebody asked earlier too. I will answer this quickly. I
- 25:14Speaker 2: can't give it all away. It's not mine to give away,
- 25:16Speaker 2: but just noting, it says, does this site take some
- 25:19Speaker 2: of your lineups What about all and analyze them and
- 25:22Speaker 2: get suggestions on how you could have done it differently
- 25:24Speaker 2: and suggestions for the following week. Can't say for sure
- 25:27Speaker 2: what's coming, but I did drop a little breadcrumbs at
- 25:29Speaker 2: the beginning. He showed me a couple really cool things
- 25:32Speaker 2: and that's actually not even the coolest one, the one
- 25:34Speaker 2: you're talking about there. But I do think you're going
- 25:36Speaker 2: to be able to do that as well and be
- 25:38Speaker 2: able to look into it. I know there's an option already,
- 25:40Speaker 2: but he's just working on a bunch of different things
- 25:42Speaker 2: that are in beta. So, I don't know. I think
- 25:44Speaker 2: it's a steal for a dollar a day. If you
- 25:45Speaker 2: use code ship it, but just, you know, bias, of course,
- 25:48Speaker 2: like everybody always says, but honestly, if you like this show,
- 25:51Speaker 2: there's never been a better product. That's why I love
- 25:53Speaker 2: this so much because it's like, I do want to
- 25:55Speaker 2: dig in. I think Nate said it earlier. Um, about
- 25:59Speaker 2: digging into some of these options. He said, I spent
- 26:01Speaker 2: so much time analyzing Yuta, BK Ryder, Mock, FJ Born,
- 26:04Speaker 2: and many others, especially in the baseball streets. Like good
- 26:07Speaker 2: idea when it comes to that, Nades. I think that's
- 26:09Speaker 2: a really good call. He said, I reviewed all 1500
- 26:13Speaker 2: classic slate data on their site from NFL. So, Yeah,
- 26:16Speaker 2: I definitely think that's good. It is for FanDuel. Support
- 26:20Speaker 2: at FanDuel.com. And also just throw in, try hitting up
- 26:23Speaker 2: VIP at FanDuel.com. Like I said, I don't care what
- 26:26Speaker 2: nothing no more. Blow their ass up. Like it's seriously disgusting.
- 26:30Speaker 2: Like I said, how they don't even acknowledge it. So
- 26:32Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't have any sponsors with them.
- 26:34Speaker 2: I wouldn't want one.
- 26:35Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 26:36Speaker 2: We have no business with FanDuel. So to me, when
- 26:38Speaker 2: they're doing this to a community of people that we
- 26:40Speaker 2: care about and play, and we have such a small
- 26:42Speaker 2: niche thing that we're getting after, Blow their ass up, honestly.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Just send them email after email after email. Let their
- 26:48Speaker 2: AI bots explode. It's perfect. Just get them. And this
- 26:52Speaker 2: is important to remember too. Sorry, Jay, I got to
- 26:54Speaker 2: hit this one. And sorry, Matt, because I'm ranting. But
- 26:56Speaker 2: now Tambo's Tangents on a Monday morning after week one.
- 26:59Speaker 2: But this is not the same. Dave from Stochastic, awesome dude,
- 27:04Speaker 2: posted about this. And I was just clarifying. So if
- 27:06Speaker 2: he was watching this or comes back, it was like
- 27:07Speaker 2: I wasn't coming at him. I was just noting it.
- 27:09Speaker 2: The bonus cash people got was what you were supposed
- 27:12Speaker 2: to get. That's what they owe automatic. That was promoted
- 27:15Speaker 2: out for a month. They, if you had a train
- 27:17Speaker 2: yesterday that lost money, they owed you the seven 50.
- 27:20Speaker 2: It was always going to be seven 50. It was
- 27:23Speaker 2: always going to be for one week only. And it
- 27:25Speaker 2: was always going to be bonus cash. It was right
- 27:27Speaker 2: in the terms of service. We had that posted for
- 27:29Speaker 2: our community over at ship it. We said, Hey, if
- 27:30Speaker 2: you're a smaller player and you're not going to be
- 27:33Speaker 2: able to use that seven 50 in week two, uh,
- 27:35Speaker 2: don't just jam it in to try and win the money.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Cause if you lost it all, got the bonus money,
- 27:40Speaker 2: you would have to play it all in week two.
- 27:42Speaker 2: So there's, there's no benefit to people getting this is
- 27:45Speaker 2: just cause you didn't get, you just didn't hit your
- 27:47Speaker 2: one 50 or you got screwed on it. And so
- 27:49Speaker 2: you just are getting what you're, they're counting anybody that
- 27:51Speaker 2: got the losses in the $ 5 is getting paid. Most
- 27:54Speaker 2: people was the full seven 50 cause they couldn't even
- 27:56Speaker 2: get an edit in. So they had a zero or
- 27:58Speaker 2: or a dummy lineup. So that's nothing. They have not
- 28:00Speaker 2: acknowledged the actual issue at all. That's what you were
- 28:03Speaker 2: supposed to get. That's completely normal, just so you know.
- 28:07Speaker 2: So anyway, all right, going back to it. We're going
- 28:10Speaker 2: to start with the $ 5, Matt. I want to see
- 28:12Speaker 2: some of the comparisons and the differences. But Jay Wasow28,
- 28:16Speaker 2: I said, spent 50K, dropped 273.98. So still about 20
- 28:21Speaker 2: points shy of the optimal, but it doesn't matter. You
- 28:22Speaker 2: don't need the optimal. It's just showing. We're just showcasing
- 28:26Speaker 2: the difference of how you can get there. Here was
- 28:28Speaker 2: the lineup. And if I click his name, actually, it's
- 28:32Speaker 2: even cooler and better because now I can actually go
- 28:34Speaker 2: in and see they had three lineups, one for three.
- 28:37Speaker 2: Imagine you got three lineups in the Millie for five bucks,
- 28:41Speaker 2: taking your shot. One of them cashes and it gets
- 28:44Speaker 2: all the way there to the top of the house.
- 28:47Speaker 1: That's insane, bro. That's insane.
- 28:49Speaker 2: And look at this. 113 was entry number two. 110
- 28:51Speaker 2: was entry number three. So you went 110, 113, and
- 28:59Speaker 2: then pow, let me throw a 273.98 on you here.
- 29:03Speaker 2: And this is the lineup. If you want to look
- 29:05Speaker 2: at it, it is Jordan Love. It had Jameer Gibbs
- 29:08Speaker 2: and Derrick Henry. It had Watson, DJ Moore, and Jalen Coker.
- 29:15Speaker 2: And then it had Dallas Goddard with the Steelers D
- 29:18Speaker 2: we know the Steelers D we know, um, you know, Gibbs,
- 29:22Speaker 2: like we, we kind of had those guys typically as
- 29:24Speaker 2: the chalk. But if you look at it, the, the
- 29:26Speaker 2: love Watson stack, the, um, Swift Coker mini, and then
- 29:34Speaker 2: the plugins of like Raven, you got a, you know,
- 29:36Speaker 2: Derek Henry, DJ more Dallas Goddard. And then of course
- 29:39Speaker 2: the Steelers D were popular. Give me your thoughts on
- 29:41Speaker 2: this lineup.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Man, just insane takedown by this guy to win this
- 29:46Speaker 3: tournament with three lineups, two of them not cashing.
- 29:49Speaker 1: I mean, how many people were in this tournament? 800,000 people?
- 29:52Speaker 3: I mean, that's insane. So the first things that I
- 29:57Speaker 3: notice are Love wasn't even that good as far as
- 30:00Speaker 3: quarterbacks go. Like he put up a fine score, but
- 30:03Speaker 3: look at Bryce Young score. Look at Josh Allen score.
- 30:06Speaker 3: Look at Caleb Williams score. The difference is he didn't
- 30:10Speaker 3: play mayor and he got the highest tight end score
- 30:13Speaker 3: with Goddard scoring twice. He played a defense that scored
- 30:16Speaker 3: a touchdown and he just had a lineup that for
- 30:22Speaker 3: lack of a better term, nutted everywhere else and love.
- 30:24Speaker 1: Was good enough. So I mean, big props to this guy.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Well-constructed lineup.
- 30:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:32Speaker 3: I'm just still in awe that in the $ 5 milli
- 30:36Speaker 3: put in three lineups, two of them didn't.
- 30:38Speaker 1: Cash one of them.
- 30:39Speaker 3: I mean, his other two lineups, you know, did his
- 30:44Speaker 3: other two lineups didn't even come close to outscoring.
- 30:47Speaker 2: No, like on the second line, that's somebody.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:49Speaker 2: He was in on, he still had the Steelers D
- 30:51Speaker 2: he was still in on the, like Coker. He went
- 30:54Speaker 2: to Tet. He went to burrow and chase with Bijan,
- 30:57Speaker 2: but he had Jones and golden still as a part
- 31:00Speaker 2: of that game. He was kind of in on the
- 31:01Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Miami game. Cause he used Tucker there. And
- 31:03Speaker 2: then the other game, He didn't use Tucker, but he
- 31:06Speaker 2: had Willis with a Chan with the defense kind of
- 31:09Speaker 2: just racking up the entire, you know, around the goal line,
- 31:12Speaker 2: you'd have Willis or a Chan. And then obviously the
- 31:14Speaker 2: defense stepping up and getting in position with Lloyd and with,
- 31:19Speaker 2: you know, Barkley instead of Goddard up there, but he
- 31:21Speaker 2: still had Loveland. So, you know, and for Chicago, so
- 31:24Speaker 2: he was in on the same three spots, just spread it.
- 31:26Speaker 2: He gave himself a little bit of a, portfolio diversification.
- 31:29Speaker 2: And then someone else pointed out to like, he had
- 31:31Speaker 2: Pierce in one, he had golden in another, he had
- 31:35Speaker 2: DJ more in the other. He was kind of like
- 31:37Speaker 2: picking it. And then he had Henry, he had, um,
- 31:41Speaker 2: Bijan and he had Barkley. He kind of had those
- 31:44Speaker 2: upside three. I think if you think about it, like, again, it's,
- 31:46Speaker 2: it's not going to be taken as like the most, um,
- 31:49Speaker 2: sharp play. I don't think it's not about, you know,
- 31:50Speaker 2: how people would look at it. Only three lineups kind
- 31:52Speaker 2: of put them all together, but it was, there was
- 31:53Speaker 2: some sort of thought around three games, four games, some
- 31:58Speaker 2: plugins that made sense. And then looking for those upside options.
- 32:02Speaker 2: Like if you think about like Pierce more Barkley, like
- 32:05Speaker 2: if you, if you were going to get something out
- 32:06Speaker 2: of them or golden sort of having a splash play
- 32:08Speaker 2: or something that Watson, he was in on the same
- 32:10Speaker 2: type of spot type of spots. That's what I noticed.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:14Speaker 1: That's a good call.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 32:17Speaker 3: I was just going to say, yeah, to that point, like,
- 32:19Speaker 3: I don't think this was like three lineups that were
- 32:22Speaker 3: made like weeks apart from each other. I think they
- 32:25Speaker 3: were three lineups made together with a purpose to your point.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:30Speaker 2: And if Josh is watching, uh, over at DFSOS, I
- 32:32Speaker 2: will say a couple of notes. I would say like,
- 32:33Speaker 2: it's just sorting on this that I don't want to forget.
- 32:35Speaker 2: Like I wish there was, I know it's in order,
- 32:38Speaker 2: but I'd still like to be able to sort this
- 32:40Speaker 2: a little better. And then I think this is really cool.
- 32:43Speaker 2: So I'll, I'll note more on this in a second.
- 32:45Speaker 2: And then this, I'd probably want to see like QB,
- 32:48Speaker 2: like do it like the order of, of, I'm asking
- 32:51Speaker 2: my wishlist as we go. You know me, I was like,
- 32:53Speaker 2: you know, just got to say it like it is.
- 32:54Speaker 2: I'm hoping to get it, but I'd like to see
- 32:55Speaker 2: this in its order, like QBRBRBY, if it's going to
- 32:59Speaker 2: be this view. And then I'd love to still see
- 33:01Speaker 2: the ownership mixed in here as well. But good, good stuff.
- 33:04Speaker 2: This is what's incredible though, because we'll show you in
- 33:06Speaker 2: a second here, but Bellman, this is kind of cool
- 33:09Speaker 2: to see how the flex usage was, how the team
- 33:11Speaker 2: stacks were like everything like that. Because what I want
- 33:14Speaker 2: to see now, going back to slate review, and clicking in,
- 33:18Speaker 2: let's go to like the mega and shout out to
- 33:22Speaker 2: Frankie again. We'll go to him in a second. I
- 33:23Speaker 2: got more on him, but I want to see like,
- 33:25Speaker 2: just looking at Gibbons for a second for this tournament.
- 33:29Speaker 2: When it pops up, he played the max 22 average salary.
- 33:33Speaker 2: You were able to see how many unique players he used.
- 33:36Speaker 2: You can see an order, what his exposures were, but
- 33:38Speaker 2: you can also see the ownership of on those players.
- 33:41Speaker 2: So people wonder like, Oh, Michael Mayer was a donkey play.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Well then why did one of literally the best DFS
- 33:46Speaker 2: players in the world have almost 70% of them in
- 33:48Speaker 2: his lines? He didn't work out. It's not about the result.
- 33:50Speaker 2: I'm just noting like there's something that tells you that
- 33:52Speaker 2: you want to learn. There's always lessons in this stuff. Oh,
- 33:56Speaker 2: I feel like an idiot. I played Jamar chase. I'm
- 33:58Speaker 2: a dummy because why would I ever play Jamar chase yesterday?
- 34:00Speaker 2: He had a bad day. Well, cause we don't play
- 34:02Speaker 2: for the result. Like the results are a product of
- 34:04Speaker 2: the process. The, one of the best players had 50%
- 34:07Speaker 2: of him. So it's just little things like that. You're
- 34:09Speaker 2: going to have duds within your lineups. But now you
- 34:11Speaker 2: can see kind of how he stacked it, his flex usage,
- 34:15Speaker 2: what it ended up being like 57%, obviously being that
- 34:18Speaker 2: high on Mayer. He thought it was a good idea
- 34:20Speaker 2: to use that to his advantage in this. You can
- 34:22Speaker 2: go through all of his lineups and see what he
- 34:25Speaker 2: had there and how they performed. So really interesting stuff
- 34:28Speaker 2: when it comes to that. But I do want to
- 34:29Speaker 2: go back and look at Frankie's lineup. Might be an
- 34:32Speaker 2: easier way that I'm missing there just to jump back
- 34:33Speaker 2: and forth. But FJ Bourne, this was the winning lineup.
- 34:37Speaker 2: He had 223. Wow. 0.24%. He snuck it out. I'm
- 34:41Speaker 2: trying to see here. So none of these guys, any
- 34:45Speaker 2: of these guys, Jefferson, Jefferson at the end. Was that
- 34:50Speaker 2: what it was? Because think about it. Shuck, Gibbs, Warren,
- 34:54Speaker 2: Aminra played into OT early, Ville. Wow. So Jefferson getting there,
- 35:00Speaker 2: got him by 0.24 to the Millie. That's crazy.
- 35:04Speaker 1: That is crazy.
- 35:05Speaker 3: Unless the Raiders for Gibbons did anything late like to
- 35:09Speaker 3: put him there, but I don't think they did.
- 35:10Speaker 1: So yeah. Wow. That's a, I mean, that's a sweat
- 35:14Speaker 1: for sure. And I know a lot of people.
- 35:16Speaker 2: I wonder if I actually, it's even crazier. I went
- 35:17Speaker 2: to the rate, did the Raiders do anything late where
- 35:20Speaker 2: they turn the ball over or anything like that? Like
- 35:22Speaker 2: it could be that as well. I didn't even think.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not sure.
- 35:25Speaker 2: No, I don't remember if anybody remembers the game, let
- 35:27Speaker 2: us know. But anyway, that that's, what's super interesting about this.
- 35:29Speaker 2: But if we go into it and look at his build,
- 35:31Speaker 2: that one, same thing. So he had five lineups and
- 35:35Speaker 2: this is why it's interesting as well. Okay. 30, he
- 35:37Speaker 2: was 80% on mayor. He was 80% on Bijan, a
- 35:40Speaker 2: big stand. I wonder what his Gibbs exposed. So field
- 35:43Speaker 2: on Gibbs, 80% on Bijan. So playing them together in
- 35:46Speaker 2: some as well, obviously. And that makes sense. So just
- 35:49Speaker 2: like I say, very interesting to be able to see
- 35:51Speaker 2: that how he played flex usage was a little more
- 35:54Speaker 2: spread out. So he used, this is actually interesting. I
- 35:56Speaker 2: know it's only five lineups. It's not, you know, you
- 35:58Speaker 2: can only, I say, it's just, you know, think about that.
- 36:00Speaker 2: It's 20,000 plus, but just noting it, Mayer on four
- 36:04Speaker 2: of his five lineups, but only flex tight end usage
- 36:08Speaker 2: in one. So see how that flipped with Gibbons on
- 36:11Speaker 2: more lineups? You know what I mean? He had 80% too,
- 36:13Speaker 2: but he also had like 60% or something much higher
- 36:17Speaker 2: for tight end flex usage, using it to find that ceiling.
- 36:20Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't the case for Frankie. Here was
- 36:23Speaker 2: Frankie's winning lineup. Let's just see.
- 36:25Speaker 1: 223, 163, 163, 159.
- 36:25Speaker 2: So kind of all like... in that same range, but
- 36:32Speaker 2: in his big boy lineup, they got the job done
- 36:34Speaker 2: and shipped the Millie. It was Bryce Young, Coker, with
- 36:39Speaker 2: a burden run back. It was the Jets D with
- 36:43Speaker 2: Bryce Hall, or sorry, with Brees Hall. Brees Bryce got
- 36:45Speaker 2: him the job done. He still played Jameer Gibbs at ownership.
- 36:49Speaker 2: He did the double pay up with Bijan. He went
- 36:52Speaker 2: to Jefferson, which was a pivot off of Jamar Chase, right? Obviously,
- 36:56Speaker 2: and ended up doing much better for that pivot. And
- 36:59Speaker 2: then he still played Mayer with Gibbs, right? Not in
- 37:02Speaker 2: the same game, just meaning he played the two very
- 37:04Speaker 2: popular guys that made everything that, you know, people were
- 37:07Speaker 2: using Mayer to make everything work, which making everything work
- 37:10Speaker 2: typically meant getting to Jameer Gibbs. But then a little
- 37:14Speaker 2: slice and dice with the Jets D going to Brees Hall.
- 37:17Speaker 2: That's why I wish I could see it down there
- 37:19Speaker 2: and on the same spot, but just going down the board.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Brees Hall, he played them in the one lineup. Brees Hall, 6.8%.
- 37:25Speaker 2: The Jets D 20% in this tournament. I always call
- 37:30Speaker 2: that the slice and dice. It's a way to play
- 37:32Speaker 2: the Jets D at popularity, but in a way others aren't.
- 37:36Speaker 2: And if you like that correlation already and it helps
- 37:39Speaker 2: you fit everything else, really like this lineup. Um, from
- 37:43Speaker 2: this perspective, I know it's a higher stakes, smaller field,
- 37:45Speaker 2: and it doesn't come close to what would have won
- 37:46Speaker 2: the $ 5, but that's, you're not playing to win the
- 37:48Speaker 2: $ 5 when you're playing the 44, 44. So this is
- 37:52Speaker 2: the lineup. Anything to add on this one, Bellman, as
- 37:54Speaker 2: you check it out here with, with Frankie's lineup.
- 37:56Speaker 1: A couple of things. I think that's a good example.
- 37:58Speaker 1: What you just talked about. It's not who you play.
- 38:00Speaker 1: It's how you play them.
- 38:01Speaker 3: Like the best plays are the best plays. Normally you
- 38:04Speaker 3: want to get exposure to those guys at a high percentage.
- 38:07Speaker 1: And it's just about how.
- 38:07Speaker 3: You play them together. Also like on that note, And
- 38:12Speaker 3: this is just NFL DFS.
- 38:13Speaker 1: It always hurts.
- 38:14Speaker 3: I played one lineup in that mega million and, you know,
- 38:18Speaker 3: obviously had four, not obviously, but had four of the
- 38:20Speaker 3: same guys in that winning lineup just didn't do clearly
- 38:23Speaker 3: didn't do close to enough around those guys. And DFS
- 38:26Speaker 3: is a fickle game. Like the other fade that that lineup,
- 38:30Speaker 3: we didn't even talk about, but who was high on
- 38:32Speaker 3: was a chain. And he was about a quarter on
- 38:35Speaker 3: in that contest, you know, going to someone like Brees Hall,
- 38:38Speaker 3: who you're talking.
- 38:39Speaker 1: About was massive there.
- 38:40Speaker 3: So, Brees and Jefferson over chase and I chain really
- 38:45Speaker 3: set that line up apart in my eyes.
- 38:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:49Speaker 2: And, and that's, that's the thing. So if you, if
- 38:51Speaker 2: you look at it from a couple of different perspectives too,
- 38:54Speaker 2: and go back to the slate review, um, I want
- 38:56Speaker 2: to see the $ 100 Millimaker as well just to get
- 38:58Speaker 2: a difference. But the big factor is always like there's
- 39:01Speaker 2: a totally different setup for 832,000 entries than there is
- 39:05Speaker 2: for 750,000 than there is for 27,000. Obviously, when you
- 39:10Speaker 2: get similar, you could start to bring stuff across and
- 39:12Speaker 2: apply it. But there's a ton of different ways to
- 39:15Speaker 2: think about it. Like I wonder too, this is actually
- 39:17Speaker 2: something I want to check out. I don't know if
- 39:22Speaker 2: I can search it this way. Yes, I can. So
- 39:27Speaker 2: Frankie had five lineups in the 49ers. and we just
- 39:31Speaker 2: saw what they were. I'll remember enough to roughly understand it.
- 39:34Speaker 2: So let's just see. This is the five max $ 150.
- 39:36Speaker 2: See the same lineup. Doesn't get you the million dollars.
- 39:42Speaker 2: It gets you 3K. It's 163, 163, 159, 153. So yes,
- 39:45Speaker 2: he just played the exact same five lineups and played
- 39:47Speaker 2: them in that five max. That's like whatever it was,
- 39:50Speaker 2: however many people play in that. It was... 3,700 entries
- 39:56Speaker 2: instead of 750. And he, he classified it the same
- 39:58Speaker 2: way and played.
- 39:59Speaker 1: It that way. So I'm not surprised at that. Are you?
- 40:01Speaker 2: No, not at all. That's a, it's a fair number.
- 40:03Speaker 2: And it's kind of like, I'm playing like when you're
- 40:04Speaker 2: playing this and other people have, by the way, that's
- 40:06Speaker 2: another factor that you have to remember. It's also like
- 40:09Speaker 2: what you played and how many others have against you.
- 40:12Speaker 2: And with, with Peter Gibbons having 22 and Frankie knowing
- 40:16Speaker 2: he can compete with these guys, of course he has forever,
- 40:18Speaker 2: but also I'm not going to have as many of
- 40:20Speaker 2: those guys. All right, well then let's see what I
- 40:24Speaker 2: can do with my five. Well, I'm going to play
- 40:25Speaker 2: it like it's a 5,000 man, because I'm still going
- 40:27Speaker 2: to need to have some ability to get to the
- 40:30Speaker 2: top and overcome those that have 22 lineups that probably
- 40:33Speaker 2: have similarities to me. So how can I get a
- 40:36Speaker 2: good lineup? That's still unique and different. and find my
- 40:39Speaker 2: way there. So I just bring that up for that reason.
- 40:41Speaker 2: Let's look at the $ 100 Millie maker. But before we
- 40:44Speaker 2: do that, Chase Fowler got the... So Chase Fowler got
- 40:47Speaker 2: a major before Ricky Fowler and got the million dollar
- 40:50Speaker 2: prize going. But let's see... This one, really good question
- 40:54Speaker 2: from Coach Sav. Can we talk about T-Law? Why was
- 40:57Speaker 2: he so low-owned? I talked about this a little bit
- 40:59Speaker 2: on the Sunday Shipper Show yesterday morning, and I think
- 41:03Speaker 2: you guys talked about it too, Bellman, with the Contrarian
- 41:05Speaker 2: Construction Show. That could have been one, because when you
- 41:08Speaker 2: got people talking about T-Law and that matchup and everything,
- 41:10Speaker 2: and you're a Cleveland guy, so you know about the squads,
- 41:13Speaker 2: but the setup was this. People like T-Law or kind of,
- 41:18Speaker 2: kind of liked him, but then it was like, okay,
- 41:21Speaker 2: Parker Washington, but I can't run it back. Like, who
- 41:23Speaker 2: do I run it back with? I don't really love
- 41:25Speaker 2: Fannin or I don't want to know if it's going
- 41:27Speaker 2: to be Denzel or, or I don't know if it's
- 41:29Speaker 2: going to be Casey Concepcion or whatever is, you know,
- 41:31Speaker 2: these guys' names are like, that's the new guys to
- 41:33Speaker 2: the league that people know from best ball, but people
- 41:36Speaker 2: didn't feel comfortable about setting up that stack. And even
- 41:39Speaker 2: if they weren't on something popular, like Detroit, New Orleans,
- 41:42Speaker 2: where it's like obvious, they were still going to like two,
- 41:45Speaker 2: three and four stacks after that, before they got to
- 41:49Speaker 2: this one. And really it's funny because is Denzel Boston
- 41:54Speaker 2: on your squad there in Cleveland? Is that his name? Yeah.
- 41:57Speaker 1: He's the wide out that caught the late touchdown.
- 41:59Speaker 2: He's the one who I remember getting the big touchdown.
- 42:00Speaker 2: But my point being like, however you landed on it,
- 42:02Speaker 2: like you could have just went with Lawrence, Dr. Washington,
- 42:06Speaker 2: guys you would expect them to do well with and
- 42:08Speaker 2: either not ran it back at all or made your
- 42:11Speaker 2: choice on that other side with one of those guys.
- 42:13Speaker 2: You could have set that up. So that's another one,
- 42:15Speaker 2: Coach Sav, where you can get away with it. And
- 42:17Speaker 2: I'll let you run with it in a second where
- 42:18Speaker 2: you could just, then you can get Gibbs. You can
- 42:21Speaker 2: get Bijan. You can get Swift or the Jets D
- 42:24Speaker 2: with Brees Hall or whatever you decide to get in
- 42:25Speaker 2: there and then still have a decent tight end and
- 42:27Speaker 2: maybe not even need Mayer and have a good lineup
- 42:30Speaker 2: that plays well in single entry if that's the spot
- 42:32Speaker 2: that you want it to go. but most people didn't
- 42:34Speaker 2: want to go to that spot go ahead.
- 42:36Speaker 3: So a couple things one yeah totally right so that's
- 42:39Speaker 3: just the start of it though not only did you
- 42:41Speaker 3: not have people wanting to play the run back i
- 42:43Speaker 3: think there's a couple other factors in play here one
- 42:47Speaker 3: low total in the game like the browns part of
- 42:50Speaker 3: the reason people didn't want to run anything back is
- 42:52Speaker 3: because the browns had the lowest total on the slate
- 42:53Speaker 3: so you didn't really expect much push back there which
- 42:56Speaker 3: was true but the other big thing at least for
- 42:59Speaker 3: me and honestly this has changed now after just one
- 43:02Speaker 3: week but Coming into the season and last year, the
- 43:05Speaker 3: Browns defense was really good. Now, maybe no Miles Garrett
- 43:09Speaker 3: has changed that dramatically. Maybe no Jim Schwartz has changed that.
- 43:13Speaker 3: But I didn't personally think that, like, even though the
- 43:17Speaker 3: Jaguars were big favorites, that he was in some fantastic
- 43:20Speaker 3: spot against the healthy Browns defense. Now, hindsight is 20-20, obviously.
- 43:25Speaker 3: And I think that this Browns defense, the loss of
- 43:27Speaker 3: Miles Garrett, might've been bigger than anyone anticipated. Like Jared
- 43:31Speaker 3: versus a good player. Miles, Miles Garrett is a generational player.
- 43:35Speaker 3: So with the Browns not having an offense, that's capable
- 43:38Speaker 3: of moving the ball, maybe offenses against this defense that
- 43:42Speaker 3: potentially was a lot better last year than they are
- 43:45Speaker 3: this year is in play, but going into the slate yesterday,
- 43:50Speaker 3: I personally didn't think that Lawrence was in a great
- 43:52Speaker 3: spot for all the things we just talked about. You
- 43:55Speaker 3: single one of them out, and certainly you can poke
- 43:57Speaker 3: holes in it. But when you talk about them all together,
- 43:59Speaker 3: I didn't think he was a great play on paper personally.
- 44:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say another thing too, though. I
- 44:05Speaker 2: don't disagree with any of that. I think you nailed it.
- 44:07Speaker 2: But just noting as well, another way to reverse engineer
- 44:10Speaker 2: something like that and think about it is.
- 44:14Speaker 2: If you weren't on Joe Burrow, Jamar, totally different game.
- 44:17Speaker 2: I know I'm explaining the concept though, but if you
- 44:19Speaker 2: weren't on Joe Burrow and you weren't on Jamar Chase
- 44:21Speaker 2: and you weren't on Higgins, but you still thought they
- 44:24Speaker 2: were going to put up points, then why wouldn't you
- 44:26Speaker 2: play like Chase Brown in the defense? You know what
- 44:28Speaker 2: I mean? So the inverse of that is, is if
- 44:31Speaker 2: you weren't on the jags d yesterday by the way
- 44:33Speaker 2: who are extremely popular and you didn't think that the
- 44:36Speaker 2: jags d were going to be the ones putting them
- 44:37Speaker 2: in the position and you know closing down that back
- 44:40Speaker 2: and forth of the possibility that then why not go
- 44:42Speaker 2: the other way when you knew trevor lawrence could be
- 44:44Speaker 2: there like if it doesn't go that way and by
- 44:47Speaker 2: the way the jags d did just fine i just
- 44:49Speaker 2: from a fantasy point scoring perspective but just noting it
- 44:52Speaker 2: it's like if you thought that then you almost got
- 44:55Speaker 2: to think something else is going to happen in that
- 44:57Speaker 2: game or what else happens. It's like, if you, but
- 44:58Speaker 2: if you weren't on the Jags D you could have
- 45:00Speaker 2: thought to be on the passing attack instead, just another
- 45:03Speaker 2: way to think about it there. I've got the a
- 45:06Speaker 2: hundred dollar Millie on the screen there. Now I'm going
- 45:10Speaker 2: to pull up actually, just so you can see a
- 45:11Speaker 2: better job of it. The man, Chase Fowler, I'll let
- 45:14Speaker 2: you run through his lineup. I'm looking at a couple
- 45:16Speaker 2: more things on here. Someone else said, yeah, T-Law Parker, strange.
- 45:20Speaker 2: with no run back. There was a couple of ways
- 45:22Speaker 2: to get to it and you could have got away
- 45:23Speaker 2: with it. But again, I don't know if you would've
- 45:24Speaker 2: got all the way there, but I just saw it too.
- 45:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 45:26Speaker 2: So we'll go through it. But Gibbons made the run
- 45:28Speaker 2: in this one as well, but this is chase Fowler's lineup.
- 45:32Speaker 2: It starts here in the middle. If you're looking at
- 45:35Speaker 2: a Bellman, but it's shock. Oh, love a VLA Johnson
- 45:40Speaker 2: Gibbs run back. Then it's just got B John Coker,
- 45:45Speaker 2: the Raiders and Jefferson spends the full five 50 K
- 45:49Speaker 2: and ships. It's like, man, what's wrong with that? It's
- 45:53Speaker 2: just like, remember, you know what I mean? And they,
- 45:54Speaker 2: and also like the, the, the saints did nothing until
- 45:58Speaker 2: third quarter, late third quarter, whatever. And just still gets
- 46:01Speaker 2: all the way there in the end. So, I mean,
- 46:02Speaker 2: this happens, that's part of the game, but give us
- 46:04Speaker 2: your thoughts on this line. I think it's just, you know,
- 46:06Speaker 2: look really solid. I want, I want to see a
- 46:08Speaker 2: few more things, but it looks really solid overall.
- 46:11Speaker 3: You literally took the words right out of my brain.
- 46:13Speaker 3: It's not even about my, the lineup itself. My first thought,
- 46:16Speaker 3: my first thoughts are, my first thoughts are don't count your,
- 46:20Speaker 3: your chickens before they hatch and vice versa. Like people
- 46:25Speaker 3: love to tilt, but sometimes the points come late. And
- 46:28Speaker 3: this is a great example of that in a bunch
- 46:31Speaker 3: of spots here. Juwan Johnson had a zero and going
- 46:34Speaker 3: into the fourth quarter, I'm pretty sure ended up with
- 46:36Speaker 3: a decent score. Obviously that game goes to overtime, shucked
- 46:39Speaker 3: through for over 300 in the second half. Jefferson catches
- 46:42Speaker 3: the late touchdown. As far as the lineup itself, I mean,
- 46:46Speaker 3: it's put together really well. You've got a, Heavy, heavy
- 46:50Speaker 3: Saints stack with just one run back from Detroit, the
- 46:54Speaker 3: guy who did mostly everything. Amon Ra was very good,
- 46:58Speaker 3: not great, considering some other scores on the slate at
- 47:00Speaker 3: his price tag. Obviously, he was much better than Chase,
- 47:03Speaker 3: but clearly he wasn't needed.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Gibbs was.
- 47:07Speaker 3: He was able to afford Bijan, who I talked about
- 47:09Speaker 3: a bunch yesterday, thought was going to be lower on
- 47:11Speaker 3: than he should be because he's phenomenal. And the Steelers
- 47:15Speaker 3: defense is good, not great, in my opinion. And Bijan
- 47:17Speaker 3: kind of just did his thing. We already talked about
- 47:20Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson. I saw Olave had more receiving yards than
- 47:25Speaker 3: like 10 teams in the league yesterday.
- 47:27Speaker 1: So he's just an awesome wide out.
- 47:30Speaker 3: Vele got there late also with a couple of really
- 47:34Speaker 3: nice catches, caught a score. Just a really well-put-together lineup.
- 47:39Speaker 3: A lot of people talked about this game, but I
- 47:41Speaker 3: don't think a lot of people played it with four
- 47:44Speaker 3: Saints and one Lions.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's exactly it. So I said, I also
- 47:48Speaker 2: would like the ownership on here, but it's just noting it.
- 47:51Speaker 2: When you go up, you can see it. I just
- 47:52Speaker 2: got to dig a little bit, but like what, this
- 47:55Speaker 2: is another thing, like I wish I could find it quickly,
- 47:58Speaker 2: but like Vele.
- 47:58Speaker 3: In the game they lost, the Saints lost this game
- 48:01Speaker 3: and it was a 4-1 stack.
- 48:03Speaker 1: Just putting that out there.
- 48:05Speaker 2: He got to 11%, it looks like. So yeah, just
- 48:08Speaker 2: was curious what some of the ownership, but anyway, he
- 48:10Speaker 2: had a lot of these guys up top that you
- 48:11Speaker 2: saw there. And this was a 150 set. for Chase Fowler.
- 48:16Speaker 2: So really nice overall big time player pool around the
- 48:19Speaker 2: board and a lot of different stack combos you can
- 48:22Speaker 2: see here, but it's crazy. The Delta of the difference,
- 48:25Speaker 2: like 150 lineups, it takes two 44 to win and
- 48:29Speaker 2: 149 to die with like barely like get small min
- 48:35Speaker 2: cash and stuff like that. But that's not what he's
- 48:36Speaker 2: in it for. Obviously he got the whole shipper. So again,
- 48:38Speaker 2: congrats to chase Fowler, but one night, like it's such
- 48:41Speaker 2: a crazy dealt like 45 points up and over. And
- 48:44Speaker 2: that's what you need to have. Cause you got to
- 48:45Speaker 2: have that one outlier. That's why you're building a portfolio
- 48:48Speaker 2: like that. So I think that's key. This was my
- 48:50Speaker 2: favorite though. Going back to FJ Bourne. he just posted this.
- 48:54Speaker 2: And if you know him, you know him and he
- 48:56Speaker 2: wins like that, that was his post when he won
- 48:58Speaker 2: the Millie. So, you know, he doesn't post the screenshot
- 49:00Speaker 2: or anything. He actually takes time out to go and
- 49:03Speaker 2: post this. And this is what I wanted to show
- 49:04Speaker 2: why I just love this guy for being super honest and,
- 49:07Speaker 2: and going off and, you know, it took all the
- 49:09Speaker 2: way to the fourth quarter. A lot of people chiming
- 49:11Speaker 2: in across the industry, all time chart, all sports. He says, yeah,
- 49:15Speaker 2: all sports. Andrew Moss says, this is sick that you
- 49:18Speaker 2: survived to realize this event and this goes back to
- 49:21Speaker 2: what we talked about staying in the game. For those
- 49:23Speaker 2: that don't know what this is, This is 811 days played.
- 49:29Speaker 2: So if you think like a bad Sunday happened, that's
- 49:31Speaker 2: why I said, I don't even get like, I'm not
- 49:32Speaker 2: even emotionally attached. I'm disappointed some. So I shouldn't say
- 49:34Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not emotionally detached, but it's like, or attached,
- 49:37Speaker 2: but it's like, it means nothing. We play this game forever.
- 49:40Speaker 2: This is the whole point. So it's like, we're hoping
- 49:42Speaker 2: to play forever. So it's like 811 days played. What
- 49:47Speaker 2: happens here? This is, by the way, the numbers. He's
- 49:50Speaker 2: putting it public, so I hope he doesn't mind making
- 49:52Speaker 2: a bigger deal of it, but I love that he does.
- 49:54Speaker 2: People will show this off, but it's like, look at this.
- 49:56Speaker 2: Started here, got as low as $ 1 million. Look at
- 49:59Speaker 2: this thing. You go down almost $ 750K, you finally get
- 50:03Speaker 2: a smash run. Over a year, really. Less than a year, obviously.
- 50:08Speaker 2: What is this? A year is here at the bottom,
- 50:10Speaker 2: 24th to 25th. Three months in, you're like, man, I'm
- 50:14Speaker 2: climbing out of that 700, 600K hole. I'm back to
- 50:18Speaker 2: only being down about a quarter mil. Things are all
- 50:20Speaker 2: going to turn around now. No, they're absolutely not. You're
- 50:24Speaker 2: going to drop another 750K almost and be down almost
- 50:28Speaker 2: a mil. nothing goes your way. We're another, we're a
- 50:32Speaker 2: year removed. So this moment of like being down, coming back,
- 50:36Speaker 2: I'm emphasizing it for good reason, but like you come
- 50:38Speaker 2: all the way back thinking you're going to get it
- 50:40Speaker 2: turned around. And then over the next nine months, you
- 50:42Speaker 2: go down the same downswing again that you already just
- 50:45Speaker 2: went on. Life sucks. You come back up little down, up, down, up, down, boom, boom. Oh,
- 50:52Speaker 2: something's turning. Nope. Bang.
- 50:55Speaker 1: All right.
- 50:56Speaker 2: Something got to go my way. Yes. All right. Down
- 50:58Speaker 2: a little. Something got to go my way.
- 50:59Speaker 1: Okay.
- 51:00Speaker 2: Boom.
- 51:00Speaker 1: All right.
- 51:00Speaker 2: May is kind of good. I like May. Maybe we
- 51:03Speaker 2: should stick with this game. Ramp. Boom. 250K, you just
- 51:07Speaker 2: got back. Lose it again. And then you're back down
- 51:11Speaker 2: to the same 750K you were two years ago in September.
- 51:16Speaker 2: And then bang. a million dollars, and you're up 250K.
- 51:21Speaker 2: Shout out to Frankie, A, for sharing this, B, for
- 51:24Speaker 2: showing what a sick game this is. But just D, ABC,
- 51:28Speaker 2: I got to get my ABCs right. I can't even
- 51:29Speaker 2: get that done. But C, just for letting people know
- 51:32Speaker 2: what it's actually like and then to understand how this
- 51:35Speaker 2: can actually work. And then hopefully you just go on
- 51:37Speaker 2: a sunrun, my friend. But congrats to you for, as
- 51:39Speaker 2: the guy said below, for sticking with this to survive
- 51:43Speaker 2: and even realize this.
- 51:44Speaker 1: Massive. Congrats for the win, but also I'm with you.
- 51:48Speaker 1: I don't think it can be understated.
- 51:49Speaker 3: I don't even know the word I have for it,
- 51:53Speaker 3: and I'm not at a loss for words often, but
- 51:56Speaker 3: I applaud him for putting this out there because it
- 51:58Speaker 3: shows just what a lot of people go through, maybe
- 52:01Speaker 3: not on that scale that people don't want to talk
- 52:03Speaker 3: about because people only want to see the good side
- 52:06Speaker 3: about it.
- 52:06Speaker 1: So I really applaud him for doing that.
- 52:11Speaker 2: You've got to have bankroll management too, though. I'm glad
- 52:14Speaker 2: we ended on this because it tied everything That's his bankroll.
- 52:18Speaker 2: That's what I mean. To have the ability that he
- 52:21Speaker 2: can go through that run and stick with it, it's
- 52:24Speaker 2: way more to me about the mindset. I mean, the
- 52:26Speaker 2: financial is... He's a skilled DFS player. He's been doing
- 52:28Speaker 2: it a lot longer than 2024, by the way. I've
- 52:31Speaker 2: met him years ago, multiple live finals, all that stuff.
- 52:33Speaker 2: And that's why I shut him out right away. But
- 52:35Speaker 2: it's like... The end of the day, it just shows
- 52:38Speaker 2: the grind, but you cannot be there to find that
- 52:41Speaker 2: million dollar score and get your way all.
- 52:43Speaker 1: The way out.
- 52:44Speaker 2: If you don't have control over your bankroll, but more importantly,
- 52:48Speaker 2: have control over your mind. So think about that BG little,
- 52:52Speaker 2: it's not about even like this when people hate on
- 52:53Speaker 2: pros and discords and stuff, it happens, but just know
- 52:55Speaker 2: it's not even about that. It's when someone's talking about
- 52:59Speaker 2: yesterday's result. It's not being rude and even using the sign.
- 53:03Speaker 2: If you're not in it for the grind, like somebody said, Abyssal,
- 53:06Speaker 2: I love the grind. Said, that's awesome. What a grind.
- 53:10Speaker 2: If you're not in it for that, just be quiet.
- 53:12Speaker 2: Not rudely, just factually. It's like, just probably don't say nothing.
- 53:14Speaker 2: It's like the age old golden rule. If you don't
- 53:16Speaker 2: have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
- 53:19Speaker 2: These people- And some people out there are playing through
- 53:22Speaker 2: million-dollar downswings. And you think they suck? No, it's part
- 53:25Speaker 2: of the game, man. It's battling back to be able
- 53:28Speaker 2: to find it. But if you don't love the grind,
- 53:30Speaker 2: you shouldn't be out there playing and talking shit about
- 53:32Speaker 2: other people. And don't tell me about one bad day yesterday.
- 53:34Speaker 2: Like I said, I had a horrible day yesterday. Who cares?
- 53:38Speaker 2: We're on to tonight. There's a slate ahead. Like Nades
- 53:40Speaker 2: and I used to always say when we'd start the show,
- 53:42Speaker 2: we started recording the show. Nades will be back, by
- 53:43Speaker 2: the way, guys, for other episodes as well. Bellman is
- 53:46Speaker 2: going to be helping me out a ton. This can
- 53:47Speaker 2: be a nice little crew. We got going, maybe we'll
- 53:48Speaker 2: do some three man booths for some, but we want
- 53:51Speaker 2: to keep it kind of to an hour and just
- 53:52Speaker 2: roll it out there and give you the basics. But
- 53:54Speaker 2: I will say the mindset, the mantra, the Monday motivation,
- 53:59Speaker 2: if you will ship it nation motivation, Matt, that that's
- 54:01Speaker 2: really the key. I want you to take away. It's
- 54:04Speaker 2: talking about a day about yesterday. It's like, it's, it's
- 54:06Speaker 2: not over yet. Week one is even over. You could
- 54:08Speaker 2: have lost on Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday, and Sunday night, and
- 54:14Speaker 2: you can still be, you could win 500 grand tonight.
- 54:17Speaker 2: And I promise you, you won't worry about any losses
- 54:19Speaker 2: at any given moment when that happens. So it can
- 54:22Speaker 2: always be that. There's always a new slate in front
- 54:24Speaker 2: of you. Why not me? One day mentality. I will
- 54:27Speaker 2: say too, if you guys haven't checked out dfsmastermind.com, we
- 54:31Speaker 2: did revamp it. It's fully renewed, ready to go. You
- 54:33Speaker 2: can check it out. But inside, I'm just trying to
- 54:37Speaker 2: find it here if I can. I might not be
- 54:41Speaker 2: logged in. Let me do it this way, and then
- 54:44Speaker 2: I'll show you guys. I'm an admin, so it's going
- 54:46Speaker 2: to make me actually do it. But there was a
- 54:47Speaker 2: great quote. If you go to the interviews here, I
- 54:50Speaker 2: love this one. There's a lot of great interviews. Shalhoub,
- 54:52Speaker 2: who just got fourth in the Millie. Blickle's on there. Hamhawk,
- 54:54Speaker 2: who made a run in Showdown last night and crushes
- 54:57Speaker 2: the college football streets. My man Bellman, who's on here
- 54:59Speaker 2: with me now, has his whole interview breaking stuff down.
- 55:01Speaker 2: But there was one, the Mish. All these are just
- 55:03Speaker 2: such good people. Neil Orfield, but Hibes. Hibes had it
- 55:07Speaker 2: right here. And it was so awesome in that interview.
- 55:10Speaker 2: I'm not going to pull it up and play it,
- 55:11Speaker 2: but it says, all it takes is one. All it
- 55:13Speaker 2: takes is one good day to get right and turn
- 55:16Speaker 2: things around. And for our man, Frankie Bourne, who got
- 55:18Speaker 2: the job done in the Mega Millie, was posting it
- 55:21Speaker 2: out with this whole bankroll and whole tracker there. That
- 55:24Speaker 2: was his, right now, that's his one good day over
- 55:27Speaker 2: the last 811 days, over two years, Matt, that he
- 55:31Speaker 2: found his one good day and he got it all
- 55:33Speaker 2: back and then some. And now hopefully he goes on
- 55:35Speaker 2: the sun run and gets on the heater and does
- 55:36Speaker 2: it the other way. But it's really cool to see
- 55:39Speaker 2: when people post that stuff out and give a little
- 55:41Speaker 2: bit of behind the scenes at the highest stakes as well.
- 55:43Speaker 2: Anything else to add there?
- 55:45Speaker 1: No, I think you said it beautifully, man.
- 55:49Speaker 3: Yeah, just applaud him all around for the great score,
- 55:52Speaker 3: the way he handled it, and the post after. So
- 55:55Speaker 3: big day for him, and ours is coming soon.
- 56:00Speaker 2: You bet. That's what I mean. That's how you got
- 56:02Speaker 2: to think about it too. This is another one too.
- 56:04Speaker 2: I'll show a mastermind. I'm not going to go play
- 56:05Speaker 2: the clip, but just noting it, our guy, Kenny W,
- 56:08Speaker 2: this is another thing that's just unheard of. You'll see
- 56:10Speaker 2: on there it's blurry, but it's got his ROI. You
- 56:13Speaker 2: see the green areas. This is by month. This was
- 56:16Speaker 2: an incredible video. And now again, this is why the
- 56:17Speaker 2: vault is so cool over at DFS mastermind. But if
- 56:20Speaker 2: you check it out, it's called DFS goals, 2025 reflection.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Kenny shows Kenny W 1732. He's been to all the
- 56:27Speaker 2: live finals. I was at the golf one with him.
- 56:29Speaker 2: He won the MMA live final. He was at the
- 56:32Speaker 2: baseball one just after that. He's been through it all,
- 56:34Speaker 2: but he shows his full 2025 DFS review. Kind of
- 56:37Speaker 2: like what Frankie showed off and over 3 million in
- 56:40Speaker 2: entries fees. He plays the nosebleed stakes across everything. And
- 56:44Speaker 2: he showed exactly his entire PNL, uh, leaks in his
- 56:47Speaker 2: game all that you just can't this is why i
- 56:49Speaker 2: say this is content you can't everyone's like oh i'm
- 56:51Speaker 2: gonna use chat gbt to find out about dfs matt
- 56:53Speaker 2: like all this stuff and you're not gonna find out
- 56:55Speaker 2: this stuff these are real life experiences stuff you can't
- 56:58Speaker 2: get on youtube you can't get on anywhere that there's
- 57:01Speaker 2: nothing you're gonna find like this and if you're not
- 57:04Speaker 2: yet a ship it nation member i should note the
- 57:07Speaker 2: early bird special is still on but if you are
- 57:10Speaker 2: a all access starter or ultimate member. Like you can
- 57:15Speaker 2: buy these at sabersim.com. We're partnered with them. So they
- 57:17Speaker 2: allow us to get them out there for a little
- 57:19Speaker 2: bit of a price, but it's with our stuff included
- 57:22Speaker 2: 119 annually or one 49 a month. It's like getting
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- 57:29Speaker 2: for both, um, starter and ultimate, you get the entire
- 57:33Speaker 2: DFS Mastermind Method lifetime package for free. So if you
- 57:37Speaker 2: are trying to work on your game and check this
- 57:38Speaker 2: type of stuff out, this is the way to go
- 57:40Speaker 2: about it. Matt, any final thoughts from you before we
- 57:42Speaker 2: get out of here, man? I think this is a
- 57:43Speaker 2: good first show.
- 57:45Speaker 1: Yeah, always a fun show.
- 57:46Speaker 3: Hopefully, like I just said, we have more to talk
- 57:49Speaker 3: about next week as far as our own takedowns go.
- 57:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love that. We can start tonight, man.
- 57:53Speaker 2: We got Denver, Kansas City. Just one hour from now, Hoop, Tidal,
- 57:57Speaker 2: and myself will be back for Showdown Shippers right here
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- 58:02Speaker 2: All of our shows are free. We don't have any Saturday,
- 58:05Speaker 2: member-only hidden shows, this, that, and the other. We talk
- 58:07Speaker 2: about this all the time. We've tried some of them
- 58:09Speaker 2: in the past, but the best method for us has
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- 58:15Speaker 2: offer on the site, it's all simplified. You can simplify
- 58:18Speaker 2: your stack. If I go back to the top, you
- 58:21Speaker 2: can see it a little better here, but you've got
- 58:22Speaker 2: the projections and ownership. You got the stone and the
- 58:24Speaker 2: stone 2.0, the full slate station, the value report. And
- 58:28Speaker 2: then for showdown, it's the exact same thing. It's the
- 58:30Speaker 2: projections and ownership, the showdown stones and the slate station.
- 58:34Speaker 2: You get SaberSim. If you go with SaberSim, we've got tutorials.
- 58:37Speaker 2: We've got the Saber series, breaking down how to use it.
- 58:40Speaker 2: And if you want to see a slate station... for
- 58:43Speaker 2: like showdown from tonight, what you would see. It's got
- 58:46Speaker 2: the cores up there. If you just don't have time,
- 58:47Speaker 2: you want to follow what we're doing. And then it's
- 58:49Speaker 2: got the showdown tower. Our guy BG Little Neck was
- 58:51Speaker 2: here in the chat earlier. You could see the captains,
- 58:54Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, the running backs, the wide receivers, the tight ends,
- 58:56Speaker 2: the kickers, all color coded. And then it tells you
- 58:59Speaker 2: right in the colors exactly what they mean. So if
- 59:01Speaker 2: you say, hey, I got some of those top plays
- 59:03Speaker 2: like a Gibbs in there yesterday on the main slate
- 59:05Speaker 2: and I need some separators now, boom, just let me
- 59:08Speaker 2: see who the separators are. and there was two yesterday
- 59:10Speaker 2: and so we show them a captain and not a
- 59:12Speaker 2: captain so you see that but ryan again not about
- 59:15Speaker 2: the result just showing you how you can use it
- 59:17Speaker 2: as ways to get different top play jackson dart yeah
- 59:20Speaker 2: 39 points in the captain buried my hopes and dreams
- 59:23Speaker 2: on ffc wc uh w number one wc but i
- 59:26Speaker 2: will say uh we got some battles tonight that we're
- 59:28Speaker 2: going to get back to so Appreciate you guys. Thank
- 59:31Speaker 2: you to Matt. Thank you to all for watching. Hopefully
- 59:33Speaker 2: this was helpful. Hit the thumbs up. Leave a comment
- 59:35Speaker 2: if you have any thoughts, reflection, things you want for
- 59:37Speaker 2: the future. That's going to do it for this one, guys.
- 59:39Speaker 2: For Matt, for myself, Toe Tag, and Tambo, good luck
- 59:41Speaker 2: in your contest this week. Let's ship it!