Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / Help From A Hypocrite The Video Podcast From Comedian Joey Dandano
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The reason why there's twenty different podcasts is simple. In radio,
- 0:03Speaker 1: we're taught one thought per break. Why would I want
- 0:05Speaker 1: to put football stars with y A authors or chefs.
- 0:09Speaker 1: That's why you got to visit Arrow dot net a
- 0:12Speaker 1: r r oe dot net. Twenty different podcasts. One of
- 0:16Speaker 1: the favorites something our parents would say, all of those
- 0:20Speaker 1: things that would make us go, what well it started
- 0:24Speaker 1: somewhere Something our parents would say only on Arrow dot
- 0:28Speaker 1: net aar r oe dot net. Enjoy your exploration, Joey,
- 0:32Speaker 1: You're doing something that is my god, It's all over LinkedIn,
- 0:36Speaker 1: It's all everything that I have been researching, and the
- 0:38Speaker 1: fact that we're even talking today has got to be
- 0:40Speaker 1: the universe and the way that it works through every
- 0:42Speaker 1: one of us. Because this has been a subject of
- 0:45Speaker 1: mine for a very long time, in making the transition
- 0:48Speaker 1: to videos from just normal, typical terrestrial style type of podcasting.
- 0:53Speaker 1: And I just want to know what the experience is
- 0:55Speaker 1: like for you, for people to be able to see
- 0:57Speaker 1: you and to really get into that. That's a situation
- 1:00Speaker 1: of making that connection with people, you.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Know what it really is. It's awesome to have people
- 1:09Speaker 2: be able to spend time with me in a video fashion,
- 1:12Speaker 2: and in like a more long term way. Like most
- 1:17Speaker 2: of the people who've ever discovered me, I guess that
- 1:21Speaker 2: the word would be through you know, videos that for
- 1:25Speaker 2: the most part probably end at like fifteen seconds thirty
- 1:28Speaker 2: seconds a minute. If they discovered me through comedy, it'll
- 1:32Speaker 2: be through a set in the city or on a tour,
- 1:35Speaker 2: like opening for a friend, that would be no more
- 1:38Speaker 2: than twelve to fifteen minutes. And again that's not like
- 1:41Speaker 2: something that someone can spend time with at home, like
- 1:45Speaker 2: playing me on a screen when they're cooking or walking
- 1:48Speaker 2: around or working out. So to have this it's very
- 1:54Speaker 2: it's very exciting to end vulnerable, honestly, to know that,
- 1:59Speaker 2: like people are getting to know me just by witnessing
- 2:05Speaker 2: things that quite honestly are like out of my control.
- 2:09Speaker 2: When you're on screen for an hour, you know, you
- 2:11Speaker 2: can't really control every every way that your face moves,
- 2:15Speaker 2: every every way that your eyes look.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah yeah.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Well.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Plus on top of that, Joey, is the fact that
- 2:22Speaker 1: when when you do help from from a hypocrite, the
- 2:25Speaker 1: thing is, I want to see your facial expressions, because
- 2:28Speaker 1: I mean, you are a master of that art form.
- 2:31Speaker 1: When just expressing with your face is like, how does
- 2:34Speaker 1: he do that? Let me see what he's doing?
- 2:37Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I try to make sure like I'm thinking
- 2:41Speaker 2: about that while we're recording, because we do record it
- 2:43Speaker 2: in a nice beautiful studio, yes here in New York,
- 2:46Speaker 2: a lot of cameras, very high deaf. I even we've
- 2:49Speaker 2: got a guy going handheld on it to try to
- 2:51Speaker 2: capture like, you know, make it engaging for people who
- 2:54Speaker 2: choose to listen to it over video, because you do
- 2:58Speaker 2: have to think about clips. Now, that's how that's how
- 3:00Speaker 2: this industry works. You got to think about how to
- 3:02Speaker 2: get discoverability. But I'm always thinking, I guess the term
- 3:08Speaker 2: would kind of be like over selling. How can I
- 3:10Speaker 2: like overseell this that's it on the audio side. How
- 3:15Speaker 2: can I make sure I'm really selling what I'm feeling
- 3:19Speaker 2: or the joke that I'm trying to get across on
- 3:21Speaker 2: the audio side, because I have a thing and maybe
- 3:26Speaker 2: it's a problem, maybe it's not, but I love doing
- 3:29Speaker 2: physical bits on an audio medium, and I shoot myself
- 3:33Speaker 2: in the foot all the time by doing it because
- 3:36Speaker 2: I realize halfway through it, I'm like, well, the people
- 3:39Speaker 2: just listening cannot see what I'm.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Right, that's right, that's right. Yeah, yeah. But when I'm
- 3:44Speaker 1: sitting in the front seat of the car, I hit
- 3:46Speaker 1: that red light, what do I do? I grab the
- 3:48Speaker 1: smartphone and I am watching you. So I mean, at
- 3:51Speaker 1: least I have that power of choice of I can
- 3:53Speaker 1: listen to you, I can watch you. I mean, if
- 3:55Speaker 1: you can just give me a scratch and sniff, I
- 3:57Speaker 1: would be a lot happier.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Well, just promise me that you're going back to audio assudio.
- 4:05Speaker 1: So now, when you talk about people being in their studio,
- 4:08Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. When when with iHeartRadio and those
- 4:11Speaker 1: cameras were in that room with me, I felt crowded.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Do you not feel crowded? It was it was so
- 4:16Speaker 1: uncomfortable to be in there with Rob Schneider and all
- 4:18Speaker 1: those guys, and it's like, it's like, oh my god,
- 4:20Speaker 1: I'm so sorry Rob that you were sitting here eating
- 4:23Speaker 1: a bow Jangle's biscuit and the whole freaking world is
- 4:25Speaker 1: watching us do this.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I whenever we record, there's always at
- 4:32Speaker 2: least aside from the guest, you know, like four to
- 4:35Speaker 2: five extra people in the room, and initially as a
- 4:39Speaker 2: as a live performer. A thing I really had to
- 4:43Speaker 2: get used to is the fact that they're not supposed
- 4:46Speaker 2: to laugh because the the mics are gonna pick it up. Yeah,
- 4:50Speaker 2: it's it's cool to have a joke land so hard
- 4:53Speaker 2: that you hear the whole studio laugh. But they're professionals
- 4:57Speaker 2: and they don't want to be you know, smut like
- 5:00Speaker 2: covering the whole track with their laughter. Yeah. It's funny
- 5:04Speaker 2: because I was thinking for the first couple episodes were
- 5:06Speaker 2: recorded that I was bombing, that I was bombing like
- 5:09Speaker 2: crazy the whole time, because I was like, damn, these
- 5:12Speaker 2: guys are the hard crowd. This is a hard crowd
- 5:17Speaker 2: in here. Turns out they're doing their job. They're doing
- 5:20Speaker 2: exactly what they're supposed to do.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Yeah, but aren't you as well? Because I mean, I
- 5:23Speaker 1: mean you, being a comedian, you understand the power of
- 5:27Speaker 1: the pause, and it's like I live for that with
- 5:30Speaker 1: you guys. Is that when you send me into a
- 5:32Speaker 1: shockwave of pause, it's like I'm to react now. So
- 5:36Speaker 1: therefore if I don't laugh, that problem's on me, that's
- 5:39Speaker 1: not you exactly.
- 5:41Speaker 2: It's actually really fun to have a guest on who
- 5:45Speaker 2: because I've you know, I'm starting out with comedians because
- 5:48Speaker 2: those are my close friends. Those are people who I
- 5:51Speaker 2: can trust to understand, you know, how a conversation can flow,
- 5:56Speaker 2: what it's like to keep it entertaining. And that's obviously
- 5:59Speaker 2: what I'm concerned about up top. But to have you know,
- 6:02Speaker 2: a couple of other friends of mine who aren't doing comedy,
- 6:06Speaker 2: but they are funny people in their own right right,
- 6:08Speaker 2: it's very fun to see them experience the purposeful tension
- 6:14Speaker 2: that comes with a silent moment, with with leaving the
- 6:19Speaker 2: floor open for interjection. Like people, something happens when the
- 6:23Speaker 2: cameras and the microphones are on, and people forget what
- 6:27Speaker 2: it's like to have a regular conversation. For me, I
- 6:32Speaker 2: love seeing how that goes down. It just kind of
- 6:36Speaker 2: reminds me that I don't know how you feel. But
- 6:40Speaker 2: this being a skill that you've worked on your whole life,
- 6:44Speaker 2: it is, It's intangible. It's not a thing you can
- 6:47Speaker 2: really put your hands on, you know, like saying I'm
- 6:51Speaker 2: good at conversation or I'm good at being funny isn't
- 6:54Speaker 2: a thing you can quantify. But once you're sitting down
- 6:58Speaker 2: in a chair having a cup with someone and the
- 7:01Speaker 2: purpose is to be entertaining, and the purpose is to
- 7:05Speaker 2: get the most out of every minute and every moment.
- 7:08Speaker 2: You sit there and you're like, you know what, I
- 7:10Speaker 2: am pretty good at this damn thing. Yeah, and and
- 7:14Speaker 2: and when you see someone else kind of struggle, and
- 7:17Speaker 2: it's your job to make sure the audience never even
- 7:20Speaker 2: noticed is that there was a struggle in that moment,
- 7:24Speaker 2: or like a pause that could throw off a conversation.
- 7:27Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, you know what, I think. I think,
- 7:29Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have fun here.
- 7:31Speaker 1: So now what is your reaction to what is going
- 7:33Speaker 1: on right now? With YouTube and even iHeartRadio is doing
- 7:36Speaker 1: this where they're putting a lot of people on because
- 7:38Speaker 1: they know that's the investment when it comes to where
- 7:40Speaker 1: people want their entertainment. But the problem is, though, is
- 7:43Speaker 1: they've got that stupid microphone in front of them in
- 7:45Speaker 1: situations where I think if you had just a hidden
- 7:48Speaker 1: away microphone that would even be more genuine and authentic.
- 7:51Speaker 1: I mean, you and I are used to microphones. We
- 7:54Speaker 1: we have to have the microphone. I get it, yeah,
- 7:56Speaker 1: but when you're when I'm sitting there watching something on
- 7:59Speaker 1: YouTube and I'm going you don't need a freaking microphone.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Get that thing out of your face. You're not even
- 8:03Speaker 1: talking on that thing the right way.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Ha. Yeah, I think you know. I'm I've been doing
- 8:11Speaker 2: this for for since I was a teenager. I'm thirty
- 8:14Speaker 2: one now. I've been performing for a long time. And
- 8:18Speaker 2: every single aspect of this industry that I was aware
- 8:25Speaker 2: of growing up that I thought are going to be, like,
- 8:29Speaker 2: you know, important to my career, such as like performing live,
- 8:34Speaker 2: killing it, like for small groups at a time, building
- 8:38Speaker 2: an audience, it's just it's just not how it works anymore.
- 8:42Speaker 2: And then being being the funniest comic in a room
- 8:46Speaker 2: or being the best actor in a thing like it's
- 8:49Speaker 2: it's not enough anymore to just do one thing and
- 8:52Speaker 2: be the best. Yep and ill. I don't think that's
- 8:57Speaker 2: either good or bad. I think I think that still
- 9:01Speaker 2: rewards the hustlers who make an effort to catch their
- 9:06Speaker 2: audience wherever they can, understanding that people are going to
- 9:09Speaker 2: find you however they see fit. Like there's there's so
- 9:12Speaker 2: many different avenues. I think this kind of thing is exciting.
- 9:17Speaker 2: I I will say, and I'm gonna be vulnerable here.
- 9:20Speaker 2: I had I had done a podcast before in the uh,
- 9:24Speaker 2: you know, when we were all stuck at home twenty
- 9:27Speaker 2: twenty three, I was recording over zoom. It was it
- 9:30Speaker 2: was really just a way to hang out and have
- 9:32Speaker 2: fun with my friend yep. But to have it come
- 9:36Speaker 2: back and be a real like professional gig and a
- 9:39Speaker 2: thing that is well produced and put together and gonna
- 9:43Speaker 2: be something that that that that we're putting on the resume.
- 9:47Speaker 2: I'd say, the first couple of times we recorded, which
- 9:52Speaker 2: you know, two episodes a day, getting good friends.
- 9:54Speaker 1: In the catching good for you, Yeah, yeah.
- 9:58Speaker 2: The first couple of times, I I'm gonna be honest
- 10:00Speaker 2: here and say I was super self conscious despite how
- 10:07Speaker 2: fun it was going, and and and you know, despite
- 10:11Speaker 2: how how amazing the recording went. No matter what I
- 10:14Speaker 2: was sitting there going every single episode, I was asking
- 10:17Speaker 2: the whole team, the production team, was that good am I?
- 10:20Speaker 2: Should I walk away happy? From that? Should I walk away?
- 10:23Speaker 2: And that's in relation to the to the room being
- 10:25Speaker 2: as quiet as I mentioned earlier, like people are not
- 10:27Speaker 2: supposed to laugh. I'm used to the laughter, but it
- 10:31Speaker 2: was It's just an example of the fact that like
- 10:34Speaker 2: there's so many growing pains in this industry where you
- 10:38Speaker 2: just have to keep finding yourself in different formats and
- 10:41Speaker 2: different avenues of exposure, and it's always gonna feel brand
- 10:46Speaker 2: new if it's not something you were doing before. You know,
- 10:51Speaker 2: so true, so true.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Please do not move. We're just getting started with Joey Dandano.
- 10:55Speaker 1: We'll be right back. The name of the video podcast
- 11:00Speaker 1: help from a Hypocrite. Oh really, let's get back in
- 11:04Speaker 1: with Joey Dandano. I gotta tell you something. I wish
- 11:07Speaker 1: I could be a fly on the wall when you
- 11:09Speaker 1: get into a kind of a fun subject with like
- 11:11Speaker 1: Sasha and it goes to it goes the way of
- 11:14Speaker 1: messy bisexuals, because I would love to see if you're
- 11:16Speaker 1: sitting there jotting down notes, if you're squiggling in your chair,
- 11:20Speaker 1: what your eyes are doing, darting around the room, because
- 11:23Speaker 1: there's no way in hell you're gonna sit there, you know,
- 11:25Speaker 1: just very calm, cool and collected with a subject like that.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, I do. There's something so fun that happens
- 11:33Speaker 2: where it's the same thing that happens when you're when
- 11:37Speaker 2: you're on stage doing comedy and you're and you're riffing
- 11:41Speaker 2: some something happens in the moment and you're like Okay,
- 11:43Speaker 2: let me let me stray from the material that I
- 11:46Speaker 2: planned on talking about, and let me follow this to
- 11:49Speaker 2: the end. Something something happens, and I've talked, I've spoken
- 11:53Speaker 2: about this with other performers who have to do a
- 11:55Speaker 2: very in the moment kind of thing. You kind of
- 12:00Speaker 2: the best the best wording I could use is is
- 12:03Speaker 2: you're blacking out. You're just fully like, not even there
- 12:07Speaker 2: in the moment. You're giving yourself over as a performer
- 12:10Speaker 2: to like to what's happening. You're like, Okay, what's the
- 12:14Speaker 2: best response I can give right here to launch her
- 12:17Speaker 2: into what could be the funniest anecdote that she could share,
- 12:20Speaker 2: you know, and you're quietly in your own head, filtering
- 12:24Speaker 2: through like six responses in this in in the span
- 12:29Speaker 2: of what has to be like half like a millisecond.
- 12:34Speaker 2: It's it's it's the same thing that happens to me
- 12:36Speaker 2: on stage. And I'm talking to someone in the front
- 12:39Speaker 2: row and we've been having a conversation, but now they
- 12:43Speaker 2: just threw me a curveball that I did not see coming.
- 12:46Speaker 2: And if I respond to it, well, we're gonna keep
- 12:49Speaker 2: having fun. And if I respond to it poorly, we
- 12:52Speaker 2: might this night might go negative.
- 12:54Speaker 1: See, that's that's that's when I come out and I
- 12:57Speaker 1: literally say I'm having a brown out right now, and
- 12:59Speaker 1: they kind of look at me. Therefore, okay, I'm going, okay, now,
- 13:01Speaker 1: I've got them engage. A brownout means I didn't blackout.
- 13:04Speaker 1: I just browned out, and I'm gonna step off what
- 13:07Speaker 1: I normally do and we're gonna go in a direction
- 13:09Speaker 1: that's probably gonna make you say, what the fuck? What
- 13:11Speaker 1: the hell's this guy doing?
- 13:14Speaker 2: Well, I thought I thought brown out was for was
- 13:16Speaker 2: for if you happened to smoke too much. I thought
- 13:18Speaker 2: that was the phrase of that. But maybe I'm wrong.
- 13:20Speaker 1: No, that's that's the building of a perfect radio person
- 13:23Speaker 1: smoking in hard alcohol. You got that, boys, But bye.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Guy with that stuff. I gotta make sure I got
- 13:32Speaker 2: energy for this cage.
- 13:34Speaker 1: So true, Oh my god. And well let's talk about
- 13:36Speaker 1: that energy. Because I sit here and I watch the videos,
- 13:39Speaker 1: I hear what you're doing. I see what you're doing,
- 13:41Speaker 1: and then I go, wait a second, are you using
- 13:43Speaker 1: the same compartment of energy in a podcast that you
- 13:47Speaker 1: do on a live stage, because you're still on the spot.
- 13:51Speaker 2: I definitely do. I Actually, I have to talk to
- 13:56Speaker 2: my team if I noticed, because you know, I'm doing
- 13:58Speaker 2: the clubs here in New York, especially especially the stand
- 14:01Speaker 2: here on Sixteenth Street. Love that club. It's my home
- 14:04Speaker 2: club right now. I if I look at my schedule
- 14:08Speaker 2: and I have multiple spots that night, I got to
- 14:13Speaker 2: tell the team, Hey, I can only do one episode today,
- 14:17Speaker 2: Please don't schedule me for two, because it really does
- 14:21Speaker 2: use like the entire inventory of energy. Like it's you know,
- 14:27Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about when I say that,
- 14:28Speaker 2: when you're when you're deep in a conversation, like like
- 14:30Speaker 2: how we are right now, very focused in the moment.
- 14:32Speaker 2: We're making sure to listen to every word. What's like
- 14:35Speaker 2: what are we going to respond to? Uh? What? What?
- 14:38Speaker 2: What can we get the most bang for our buck
- 14:40Speaker 2: for in terms of how we respond and what we
- 14:43Speaker 2: respond to? Like when I'm recording, it is using I say,
- 14:50Speaker 2: like if I'm if I'm operating all day at like
- 14:53Speaker 2: eight miles per gallon when I'm performing or if I'm
- 14:57Speaker 2: recording an episode, I'm I'm quadruped that at like thirty forty,
- 15:01Speaker 2: Like is it is burning me from every which way
- 15:05Speaker 2: in a way that I like, I'm not complaining about
- 15:08Speaker 2: that I'm just saying that I'm giving it my all
- 15:11Speaker 2: in a way where after every episode I do have
- 15:13Speaker 2: to walk into the green room or another room for
- 15:15Speaker 2: like five to ten minutes and just not talk yep
- 15:18Speaker 2: because because I was just on in a way that, like,
- 15:23Speaker 2: you know, I think most other people aren't unless they're
- 15:25Speaker 2: in a very very important meeting that was on the
- 15:29Speaker 2: calendar for months and now they're in it.
- 15:31Speaker 1: You know, do you do you get the hippie hippie
- 15:33Speaker 1: shanks afterwards where you put so much of your energy
- 15:36Speaker 1: into it, it's almost like your protein said, I'm out
- 15:38Speaker 1: of here, guys, screw you, go get some go get
- 15:41Speaker 1: some almonds. Dude, you need to refresh here.
- 15:44Speaker 2: So I got to say, I I'm just now, since
- 15:46Speaker 2: I'm thirty one, I've just now tried to start being
- 15:49Speaker 2: healthy and fuel my body the way that it's supposed to.
- 15:52Speaker 2: But something is happening with podcasting where I simply just
- 15:56Speaker 2: keep chugging coffees. Yeah, And I think there's a couple
- 15:58Speaker 2: of episodes where if you watch video, you're seeing me
- 16:01Speaker 2: get the shakes.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Have you done one with a buzz yet?
- 16:05Speaker 2: I have?
- 16:05Speaker 1: And it's like that that is the worst thing in
- 16:07Speaker 1: the world for me, but I'm sure to anybody else
- 16:09Speaker 1: they're gonna go God, dang, this dude was screwing up everywhere.
- 16:15Speaker 2: No, I think I think every single episode. I'm very
- 16:19Speaker 2: I'm very happy to say I think every single episode,
- 16:22Speaker 2: this energy that I get from either a good night's sleep,
- 16:25Speaker 2: working out, or shugging a coffee, it has only served me.
- 16:30Speaker 2: It has only been positive. I don't think I've had
- 16:33Speaker 2: either any any episode where at the end I'm like, Okay,
- 16:37Speaker 2: I think I was on one. I think I gotta
- 16:38Speaker 2: take a break. I think I got.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Now who does the editing of your video? Because I mean,
- 16:44Speaker 1: you're talking about hitting that stage. I always want to
- 16:46Speaker 1: give those guys kudos too, because they have to go
- 16:48Speaker 1: back through our mess and make it look beautiful. Yeah.
- 16:52Speaker 2: I definitely got to shout out my guys over at
- 16:55Speaker 2: Pod Streeting Studios here in New York. I got a
- 16:58Speaker 2: shout over my production company. This is Snorro. They the
- 17:02Speaker 2: team that we have there. We have New York, we
- 17:04Speaker 2: got Mexico City. They are brushing it Like as a comedian,
- 17:09Speaker 2: I every single time I have worked on a project
- 17:13Speaker 2: where someone else is in charge of the editing, I
- 17:17Speaker 2: have both my own experience as someone who puts out
- 17:20Speaker 2: videos and I have, you know, the comedic timing, that
- 17:23Speaker 2: intangible skill that I have been working on my entire life.
- 17:27Speaker 2: And it's very, very difficult to explain those notes to
- 17:32Speaker 2: someone who doesn't understand it is. It is the great
- 17:36Speaker 2: pain of a comedian to try to explain. And they
- 17:40Speaker 2: get it. And and I'm very happy with the stuff
- 17:44Speaker 2: that we put out. And I watched my first episode,
- 17:47Speaker 2: you know, proudly, like three to four times through just
- 17:50Speaker 2: to be like, what can I get out of this? Yes,
- 17:53Speaker 2: to make sure that like there's notes that that don't
- 17:56Speaker 2: need to be repeated every time, and I I really
- 18:00Speaker 2: didn't have that much. They get the timing, they get
- 18:02Speaker 2: what I'm out for, they get how to make this work,
- 18:05Speaker 2: and there's something really awesome with that. It just shows
- 18:08Speaker 2: that the collaboration, Like I went to the wrong place,
- 18:11Speaker 2: I mean I went to the right place, and they
- 18:13Speaker 2: came to the right guy.
- 18:14Speaker 1: You know, Wow, dude, you got to come back to
- 18:17Speaker 1: this show anytime in the future. Eighteen minutes with you
- 18:19Speaker 1: is never gonna be enough. I love where your heart is,
- 18:21Speaker 1: I love where your vision is. You're on the right path.
- 18:24Speaker 1: And do me a favorite. Don't stop like you kept saying,
- 18:27Speaker 1: don't stop because if you do, there ain't gonna be
- 18:30Speaker 1: anybody else that's gonna do it like you. You are
- 18:32Speaker 1: only you.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Man. I really appreciate that. I did not even realize
- 18:37Speaker 2: that eighteen minutes had just passed that.
- 18:39Speaker 1: How about that?
- 18:39Speaker 2: Brother?
- 18:40Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, please come back anytime.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Man, absolutely brn thanks for having me. You have a
- 18:47Speaker 2: good day.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Uh, you'd be brilliant today, you too, well come up
- 18:51Speaker 1: to the song