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Superbowl 58 - NFL Awards Preview · Banter with the Boys

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You're listening to Bantor with the Boys, talking all things sports.
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From betting and brawls, Superball to Stanley Cup Finals.
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Get laced up.
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It's time for Bantor with the Boys.
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What's up everybody, welcome back to Bantor with the Boys.
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The grand finale is here Smelty.
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The grand finale is here.
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It's Super Bowl week, what we've been waiting for.
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But as always, got my main man Smelty with me here today.
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Want to wish you a happy belated birthday.
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Hope you had a good weekend celebrating getting some time off.
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Yeah, for sure.
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We're just going to ignore my birthday because obviously that means I got a year older.
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So we'll just kind of skim over that.
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That's not really a big deal.
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I actually got a fact for you right off the bat.
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Since you mentioned that it's a season finale.
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Do you know how much the Lombardi Trophy weighs?
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Can't say that I do.
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I'm going to go ahead and guess 13.7 pounds.
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Why?
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Why the points?
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It doesn't matter.
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Seven pounds.
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Seven pounds is what it weighs.
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Dang.
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Yeah.
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So now you know.
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That's a good fact to know, dude.
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Now you can go to your local, you know, dive bar and win trivia night.
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Thanks to Smelty.
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So I appreciate it, dude.
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It's one of my main hobbies is going to dive bars for local trivia.
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You look the part.
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I feel it.
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I feel it.
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Well, we don't have much to recap this week because we had the Pro Bowl last week.
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And let's be honest, nobody watches that thing.
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However, the skills challenge was pretty cool.
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But again, you just watch the highlights on YouTube.
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Did you watch any of it at all?
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Highlights on YouTube.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I turned on for like 10 minutes, thought I was going to get into it.
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And it was like the flag football portion.
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And I was just like, you know, no, it's just I couldn't do it.
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I can't watch grown men play flag football, man.
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Yeah, it's just I mean, it'll never be what it once was.
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The days of Sean Taylor just destroy in a punter.
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Oh, yeah.
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You'll never see that again for a pro ball.
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Yeah, they should bring the game back.
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But I don't at the same time.
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I don't know.
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Nobody's got nobody's hitting, you know.
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Nobody's going to play.
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It's not in Hawaii.
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Like the one thing that's actually somewhat exciting, they should put it back in Hawaii.
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100 percent.
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100 percent.
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They should put it back in Hawaii.
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The one thing that is exciting is that, you know, some of the skills challenges are pretty
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cool.
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But again, you don't get like the top, top, top tier players going anymore.
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So you know, like the quarterback challenge, Dan Orlowski shouldn't beat the six pro ball
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quarterbacks in that challenge.
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That was insane.
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I mean, props to Dan Orlowski, though.
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Boy can still sling.
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He can still yeah, he can still sling it.
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All right.
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Well, let's move on.
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We're going to we're going to start this really podcast off with get right into tent talk
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this week.
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Nine one one.
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What's your emergency?
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We really don't have too much from injuries, you know, as kind of expected with the two
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week rest.
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A lot of players got to got to get healthy.
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But Joe Tooney, guard for Kansas City, is unsure if he will practice this week.
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But again, one would imagine he's going to go ahead and play.
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He's got to.
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I mean, at this at this stage in the playoffs, I know we've said it literally every week
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when we talk injuries like you got to have this guy, you got to because you do.
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If it's the playoffs, obviously now it's the Super Bowl.
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Like you got to have him.
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He's a big piece of Pacheco season this year.
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Like you just got to have it.
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And again, we'd imagine that he will be playing on Sunday.
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Yeah, he's he's going to be good to go.
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You just don't miss this game.
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And he's pretty big to that team, especially with how, you know, big and dangerous that
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49ers front four front seven are.
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They're going to need him in there to open up some holes.
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But that's all we got for injuries, to be honest with you.
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Like I said, teams are pretty pretty clean this this go around.
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Everybody's banged up at this time, but they're going to be good to go.
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So let's get into some news.
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It came out today that the Philadelphia Eagles are going to actually host a game in Brazil
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week one next year, which is pretty crazy.
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And you have a fun fact about this game.
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I do.
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I do.
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Huh?
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Yeah, it's the first time there'll be an NFL game on a Friday night in week one in 50 years
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turns out, which is pretty impressive.
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That's pretty crazy.
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I mean, it gives us another prime time game and opening weekend of football.
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Gotta love that.
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And how cool is it?
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They're going down to Brazil.
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I kind of want to watch that game.
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But at the same time, it's just like I probably coach a game that night myself because it's
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a Friday night.
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Friday night lights.
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So let's let's hope that that's on a Thursday night so I can watch this game on Friday.
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There you go.
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It's still to be announced to.
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Well, the Thursday game to you're going to have the Super Bowl champion in that game.
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So you're going to miss that one of the two care less.
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OK, fair enough.
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Be careful with the unless it's the vikes.
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It's in Brazil, bro.
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It's in like I just want to watch it because I got up to watch the Germany game.
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Same reason.
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That's that's different.
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It wasn't in whatever the UK stadium is again in London.
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Wimbledon.
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No Wembley Wembley Wimbledon is the tennis event held.
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No, no, no.
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W is here.
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No, you're right.
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Yes, the tennis event.
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But let's talk about tennis because we don't know what the hell we're talking about.
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Sure don't.
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Sure don't.
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So other news that came out, that kind of well, it doesn't surprise me because he just
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always wants his name out there.
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But Levi on Bell wants to return at 31.
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Do you have hate for Levy on Bell?
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I don't hate him.
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That's a strong word.
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You highly dislike his antics.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, I.
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So I got like a soft spot for him,
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because you know Michigan State,
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and so like I don't know,
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but his attitude definitely changed,
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like once he was like killing it,
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his first like what, four years or so.
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I'd say more than that.
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In the NFL, it was four or five,
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and then he kind of went on that decline
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and left Pittsburgh.
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Yeah, he got his money.
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He got his money, went to New York,
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I believe on a four year deal
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and just rapidly declined.
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Oh that's right, and he was only there
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for like two years of that deal I think.
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I don't even think he finished his contract there.
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Yeah, it was something like that.
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And he went to New York.
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If I'm not mistaken, he then played for the Chiefs.
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Yeah, well he was on the Chiefs
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for like a short stint.
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He wore a Chiefs uniform?
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He did, yeah he wore a Chiefs uniform.
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No, he did actually play a couple games,
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like six games for him or something like that.
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It wasn't many, but he did play.
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And then yeah, one other team that he just, I don't know.
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So we'll see.
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He says he'd only play for Pittsburgh.
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That's interesting, that's interesting.
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If you're a 31 year old running back
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wanting to make a return,
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I don't know if I would necessarily
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limit myself like that.
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Well, for one, two, good point.
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But then like Mike Tomlin,
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like him and Mike Tomlin did not agree on some things
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right there at the end of his tenure in Pittsburgh, so.
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Yeah, but it's also Mike Tomlin.
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He's a players coach.
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I think that relationship could be amended, but.
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So what is Le'Veon trying to do?
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Just like make a comeback for himself personally?
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Because there's Najee Harris and what?
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Jaylen Warren.
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So like what?
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They both rushed over 700 I think this year, both of them?
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Yeah, Le'Veon went over a thousand.
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They both had over a thousand scrimmage yards.
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They both, oh, it was over a thousand, okay.
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I knew it was, oh, scrimmage yards, okay, sure.
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Yeah, but that's the thing is like,
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where does he fit on this team?
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For the potential locker room toxicity?
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Like, what are you gonna do?
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You're gonna overtake two young guns?
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I think he could play somewhere if he didn't,
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like you said, limit himself to the one team.
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Yeah, it's also not in his favor that running backs
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are not near a much of a commodity anymore.
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Especially at 31 years old.
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And 31 year old hasn't played in the league in how many years
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and did not do good the last years he was in the league.
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Like, who would?
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He wasn't used very much, no.
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And there's a reason you don't get used very much.
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All right, he should continue focusing on rapping and boxing.
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I think that could be maybe be some more future in him
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than the NFL, but we're talking about him.
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It's what he wants.
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So let's get into some coaching news.
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So surprisingly, not only did Ben Johnson decide
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to stay put as the offensive coordinator for the Lions,
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he came out to say that the basketball,
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or sorry, the Washington commander's brass
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were basketball guys.
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Yeah, and like it's kind of like a,
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this has now even got another fold to it
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as of today actually, that allegedly,
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I don't know how it works for coaches,
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their agent or some sort of representative for them,
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whatever, in contract talks and crap,
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had already texted the commanders like,
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top guys as they were heading to Detroit
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to talk to Ben saying that he was gonna stay there.
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So now it's came out because now,
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Washington kind of said that they didn't really like
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how he interviewed and like his attitude
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and stuff like this after he said the basketball guys thing.
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And now it's came out again that,
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well, they already knew that he wasn't interested
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and still came anyway.
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And like now it's just this big weird thing.
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Like, it's just kind of weird.
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It is, it's like, it's a lot of drama for a-
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It's not needed right now.
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Coordinator.
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Right.
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It's not Bill Belichick we're talking about doing this.
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Somebody that's actually gonna grab a headline.
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It's an offensive coordinator for a team
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that had its first playoff win in 30 years.
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And that's just it.
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This sucks for a team that like has had nothing
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but things to celebrate even with the loss in the playoffs.
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Like, it's such a good time to be a Detroit fan right now.
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And then you got this, that's kind of just mucking it up.
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Like, come on.
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Exactly, and I mean, it is a win.
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The Lions are keeping them.
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So it's still something to be happy about.
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It's just, you're right.
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It's just a little bit too much drama for what it needs to be.
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Go to the beach, bro.
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Yeah, man.
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Take your time off, go to the beach, chill out.
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Just, you're staying.
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Boom, don't talk to nobody else.
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Do the Clif Kingsbury and go to Taiwan or whatever.
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Or not Kingsbury, or was it Kingsbury?
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Yeah, clearly with the Thailand.
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Thailand, that's what it was, yeah.
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Yeah, it's wild.
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But let's move on from there.
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So we kind of mentioned this a couple of pods ago.
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And it's Mike McDonald got hired by the Seahawks
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as the head coach.
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It all kind of makes sense now that the Seahawks' job was,
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it's one that it's kind of favorable.
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It was the second best job, in my opinion,
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behind the Chargers.
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And it was just staying open.
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They weren't really interviewing guys,
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but they were waiting for their guy
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to come out of the playoffs.
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Ravens had to lose.
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McDonald became available.
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And bada bing, bada bang, he's the head coach of the Seahawks.
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Yeah, I think that's pretty wild.
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And honestly, there's no we here.
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You gotta take your flowers.
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You called that, I think, two pods ago.
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Something about Mike McDonald maybe going to the Seahawks.
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You maybe think it would be a good fit.
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And obviously it's happened.
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You add in Leslie Frazier to that,
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who's had some successful defenses under his time as well.
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So now you got two crazy defensive minds.
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And McDonald's, I believe,
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now the youngest head coach in the league.
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You are correct, sir.
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He is the youngest coach in the league
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at a ripe age of 36.
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Insane that a 36 year old head coach is,
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well, a 36 year old is being hired as a head coach.
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What's even more insane is McVeigh
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was the youngest head coach ever to be hired at 31,
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seven years ago.
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And he's now still the third youngest coach
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in the league at 38.
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Could you imagine that?
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How old are you?
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31.
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Yeah, okay.
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Could you imagine being head coach of an NFL team
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and half the people around you, coaching staff, players,
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personnel, like half of them are all older than you.
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And like, you're just, you run the show.
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That's just absurd to me.
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Just absurd to me.
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While somebody not quite as young
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got hired as the head coach of the Washington commanders,
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the previous defensive coordinator for the Cowboys,
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Dan Quinn is headed to Washington
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and he's taking his secondary coach, Joe Witt,
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with him as the DC.
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That hurts a little bit because Joe Witt
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was actually a part of the Packers staff.
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Charles Woodson raved about him.
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And so it's good to see him get his spot.
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He was a secondary coach with Dallas, so it makes sense.
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But I like that hire.
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I've always been a fan of Dan Quinn
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ever going back to the Legion of Boom.
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He didn't succeed as the head coach of the Falcons,
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but he's taken over a team that's a quarterback away
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from being, I would say, a playoff caliber team.
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They're not a contender, but a playoff caliber team.
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Who?
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I'm sorry.
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Commanders.
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Okay, yeah, commanders, yeah.
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Just, I mean, yeah.
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Because they really weren't that far off.
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I'm not sure if who's their quarterback, Sam Howell.
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I'm not sure if he's the answer.
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Well, that's the league in interceptions.
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But, so, might look at making a change there.
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But other than that, they really weren't that bad.
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Did they finish?
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Didn't they finish with like, no, they were bad.
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They were bad.
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They had like three or four wins.
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I was like, didn't they finish like seven wins?
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Maybe I'm thinking of a different year,
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but Chase Young year, LOL.
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They finished with four.
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They only fourth pick in the draft.
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Yeah, that's what made me think.
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I was like, no, they're higher than the Vikes in the draft.
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So I know.
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But anyway, sorry.
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But yeah, I thought it was interesting, too,
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that he brings Joe Witt with him.
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I think that's a really underrated, but a good move.
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Somebody that already knows Dan Quinn,
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obviously, closely at this point.
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And I believe, I just looked it up here,
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I believe this will be his first chance
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at being a defensive coordinator.
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So I think.
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Yeah, he was an assistant or maybe like an assistant
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to the secondary coach when he was with Green Bay
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and then went down to Dallas.
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I don't know when he went to Dallas,
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but he's been the secondary coach there.
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He was the cornerbacks coach for you guys for eight years.
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Yeah, man.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah, man.
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Charles Witson loved him.
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He's always given him his flowers.
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He's always given him his flowers.
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And then, it's good to see, I think Joe Witson,
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you might see as a potential head coach
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here in the next three, four years.
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You think so?
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I mean, it depends on what he can do with that team,
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but that Washington defense is loaded with young talent.
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It is.
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Now, they don't have Montez Sweatt
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and they don't have Chase Young.
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Those are two big pieces they're losing.
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They knew they were rebuilding.
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They still got Jonathan Allen, man.
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Yeah.
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And Doron Payne.
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They're fine.
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Oh yeah, Doron Payne, I love Doron.
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But yeah, we'll see what happens with them.
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Yeah.
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Well, let's move on then to some more drama.
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Cliff Kingsbury likes to be kind of in that drama there.
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He is now the offensive coordinator in Washington,
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joining Dan Quinn.
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But that's a surprise.
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Tell me a little bit more about that, Smelty.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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That threw me off because everybody was ready
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for Cliff to come back to the league
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in a coordinator role for the Raiders.
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But then, yeah, just all of a sudden,
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I don't know if it was a mutual thing
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that they decided not to or what,
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but all of a sudden, like,
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he just wasn't gonna be a part of the Raiders.
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And literally like two, three days later,
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now he's Washington's OC.
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Yeah, so it wasn't mutual at all.
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The Raiders wanted him.
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They thought they had him in their grabs.
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He backed out because so Adam Scheffler reported
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on the Pat McAfee show that it was a,
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like Kingsbury wanted, he wanted like a three year deal
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in Oakland or Vegas, I'm sorry,
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wasn't willing to give him that or something.
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It was a money thing too.
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And then Washington was.
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But this Washington team, man,
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with Kingsbury at the run in the offense,
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you got a defensive guy as your head coach
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who's I think gonna kind of bring a little bit more
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of that D'Amico-Ryans type energy.
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Maybe not as much, but he's more of that.
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And then he's gonna, I think he's gonna let Joe Witt
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run this defense.
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So I think this Washington team could be something, man.
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And with Cliff running the offense,
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I mean, do you think they try to, I mean, what?
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This was Sam Hall's second year.
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Do they try to fix him?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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No, no, no, no, not at number four?
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No, I'm just verifying that they have the fourth overall pick.
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Yeah, no, so they're up there.
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They have the second overall pick, I'm sorry.
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Oh snap.
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Yeah, I'm silly.
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So yeah, they had the same record,
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but strength of schedule comes into play.
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So Washington has the number two overall picks.
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Washington's gonna get their quarterback.
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They're gonna get their quarterback.
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They're gonna get Drake, McHale, Williams,
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Jaden, Daniels, whoever doesn't go one
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and they like between the other two.
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So we'll see what happens with that rook,
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but you're throwing to Terry McClaren,
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Jahan Dodson, D'Ami Brown.
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Yeah, they got some weapons.
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They got Brian Robinson and Antonio Gibson
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in the backfield.
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They have some pieces on this team, man.
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And I mean, we saw what Cliff did with Kyla Murray
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in the early years.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Jaden Daniels
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run around with that Cliff Kangarri's offense, man.
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Do they take Jaden Daniels a two?
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I mean, I think it depends on who goes one.
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With Drake May and possibly Caleb Williams
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still on the board?
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I think Jaden gives you more of the Kyla ability
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than Drake May.
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Well, 100%.
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But Caleb gives you not as much of that,
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but more than Drake May gives you,
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but Caleb Williams gives you the overall arm talent.
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And I'm not trying to hate on Caleb,
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but he gives me bad vibes.
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Yeah, I don't like his attitude.
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This year wasn't as great, and it's just,
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I just, I don't know.
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He gives me bad vibes, bro.
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And the more I've watched Drake May's tape,
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I'm like, this dude's better than I thought.
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I wasn't sold on, and we're going on a tangent on prospects,
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which I'm sure we'll talk about at some point, but.
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Yeah, but Cliff Kingsbury did the Washington, man.
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That Washington team, those basketball guys
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are putting together pretty good coaching staff here.
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Right, right.
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But let's move on to my Packers.
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We didn't get Vrayable Smelty.
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Yeah, what the heck?
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What gives?
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He's still out there.
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We didn't get BB.
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We didn't get Wink.
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So who'd you get?
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We got the Boston College head coach, Jeff Halfley.
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That delay was because I had to look down and see.
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Oh boy.
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Do you know anything about old Jeff?
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So Jeff has a, he's had a pretty good defense
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when he did take over Boston College as the head coach.
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I've looked into him a little bit more
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after obviously the hire.
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It's growing on me.
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If he implements what he likes to do
17:51
at the collegiate level, he plays a lot of man coverage.
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He plays a lot of press man coverage,
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and he likes to bring his safety down in the box.
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I love that for the Packers defense
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of what they have right now.
18:03
You got Jair, you got Eric Stokes outside.
18:06
They can handle their own on an island
18:07
and play that man press, right?
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They have the back end speed ability
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if they do get beat to make up for it and recover.
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And his background is defensive backs coach.
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In the NFL, he has experience.
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Multiple years of experience, couple different teams.
18:26
Yeah, low key move.
18:28
I threw me off.
18:30
I didn't know who the heck he was.
18:31
I didn't either.
18:32
I didn't even know his name was in the running
18:34
to be honest with you.
18:35
So I haven't heard it yet.
18:37
Yeah, that's the thing is.
18:38
So the rumors came out,
18:40
reports came out that we offered,
18:41
if I'm not mistaken, his name's Anthony Parker.
18:44
He's the Broncos secondary coach
18:46
that was in the runnings for a lot of DC positions.
18:49
The reports came out that we offered the job to him.
18:51
So he must've turned that down.
18:53
I didn't see anything after the fact.
18:54
And then boom, Jeff Halfley was hired.
18:57
So I don't know.
18:58
I like that he's young.
18:59
We got a guy that's younger.
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He's not the Wink Martindale.
19:02
I mean, Vrabel and BB, those were always a pipe dream.
19:04
It was never gonna happen.
19:05
That was me just-
19:06
That was entertainment, right?
19:09
So I like that he's young.
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I do.
19:12
I think he's gonna bring some juice to the defense.
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It's a new face in there.
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Different team.
19:17
We're gonna run more of a four-three now.
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We haven't had a four-three in a hot minute.
19:21
I do also like that he was a co-definition coordinator
19:25
at Ohio State recently.
19:27
I didn't know that either.
19:30
He more of a recruiter role,
19:31
but he was still co-definition coordinator there.
19:33
Hey, co-definition coordinator for Ohio State.
19:35
I know those defenses are becoming more and more
19:37
like NFL defenses every day.
19:39
I mean-
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Yeah, and they're running pro-defense.
19:41
They're running pro-defense.
19:42
Right.
19:43
So it's-
19:44
I don't know.
19:46
I'm not like shaking in my boots
19:49
as a Vikings fan right now about your defense.
19:52
I got my own problems to worry about, but like-
19:54
Get your own defense to worry about.
19:55
Don't worry about it.
19:56
Brian Flores ain't going nowhere.
19:58
He'll patch it up.
19:58
The Neil Hunter will sign.
19:59
Kirk Cousins won't.
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There'll be a whole thing.
20:02
Don't get me going, but low-key higher to me.
20:05
I didn't see it coming,
20:06
and we'll just see how it pans out.
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Yeah, I mean, going to that four-three, I do like that.
20:09
I like, I really like being able to see-
20:12
What were you guys running last year?
20:13
Three-four.
20:13
We've had a three-four since Thob Capers, my guy.
20:15
Now there's been some hybrids of that.
20:17
You know, Mike Petten wasn't really a true three-four.
20:20
Old buddy Joe Berry wasn't a true three-four.
20:22
But our personnel, right?
20:24
I like from a personnel standpoint,
20:26
you get Lucas Van Ness and Rashawn Gary
20:28
with the hand in the dirt on the outside.
20:31
We're not going to ask Preston Smith
20:33
to drop into coverage.
20:37
So it's, from a linebacking standpoint,
20:39
you got Devon Dre Campbell or Quay Walker in the middle,
20:42
and the other one of those guys is the weak.
20:43
It reminds me a little bit of that,
20:45
like Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw.
20:47
Not to that level, don't get me wrong.
20:49
I'm not even going to start comparing that.
20:51
But then you got the two corners on the outside
20:53
that can play lockdown defense if 21 Stokes is on the field.
20:57
We need help at safety.
20:59
That has to be a focus in the offseason.
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I'd love to see a Gino Stone signing.
21:03
But I just like what that sounds like.
21:06
You got Kenny Clark and then 93.
21:09
Shoot, TJ Slayton, he's a young guy, he's impressed.
21:12
You got them on the inside, bro.
21:14
I like that, I like that.
21:16
I think it all starts with Rashawn Gary, though.
21:19
I think it really does.
21:20
I think he carries that defense right now.
21:22
If he can give us a shed of dominant
21:27
little Mac style play, I think that defense is scary.
21:32
Because people forget about Van Ness.
21:35
Well, he was a rookie and he didn't really do anything.
21:37
And like everybody's going to, but he's not bad.
21:40
But he was a rookie and he was a shadow to Preston Smith.
21:45
Right, he didn't get the playing time.
21:47
Oh, when he does, he'll be all right.
21:50
I'm saying, bro.
21:51
He'll be fine.
21:52
So that's the thing, and you're learning
21:53
from a Preston Smith and a Rashawn Gary
21:55
and you have them on the other side.
21:56
Or like just the potential of a Lucas Van Ness
22:01
and Rashawn Gary for years to come.
22:03
I love that.
22:04
We have two edge rushers that have the potential
22:07
to be dominant.
22:08
We haven't had that since Clay Matthews
22:10
and didn't really matter who you throw on the other side.
22:13
It's going to be up to Jeff Heffley to
22:16
bring it home.
22:17
Jeff, bring it home, Jeff.
22:20
All right, well, that's enough of my Packers here.
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We have my favorite segment of the WIG back with you
22:26
this week.
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We're going to move on to your Bonehead move of the week
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presented by Smoutzy.
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Yeah, man, of course, another Bonehead.
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And this week it is Kaishan Butey.
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And I could have be saying that wrong.
22:43
I don't know.
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I think he's actually from Louisiana.
22:45
I don't have that draw on my voice.
22:48
But moving on, there's betting allegations
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against this fella.
22:51
He was actually arrested on computer fraud
22:53
and gambling for persons under 21.
22:56
So this included his time when he was at LSU.
22:59
I believe he even bet on some games
23:01
that he obviously had played in as well.
23:04
Oh, did he ever.
23:06
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:07
So he placed, and this is my media play on it,
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nearly 9,000 bets.
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It's actually like 8,900.
23:16
But nearly 9,000 bets were placed underage at LSU.
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And he continued on a little bit too into the NFL,
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which obviously, as we know, the NFL is a big no-no when
23:29
it comes to gambling, specifically on sports.
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The only thing I want to know, this guy's an absolute moron.
23:39
I was about to love what you were about to say.
23:42
That was awesome.
23:42
But good.
23:43
Wow.
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Yeah, go on.
23:44
This guy's an absolute moron.
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You just threw away a whole career of football
23:48
for placing bets.
23:49
So the only thing I want to know,
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how much did he win or lose?
23:55
Is he up?
23:55
Is he down?
23:56
What is this?
23:58
Because if he's not up, he threw away the potential
24:01
to have millions of dollars because he's
24:04
actively on the Patriots for ID to know
24:08
what the results of this game were.
24:10
I don't know how much he actually made on the betting.
24:12
All I know is, allegedly, he was doing pretty well.
24:16
Let's see, over two years, about $637,000
24:20
was wagered from the account with $556,001.
24:25
So it sounds like he did not.
24:27
I mean, he's doing all right.
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Yeah.
24:31
But it's like, also, I mean, at the point
24:32
of where college football is, so he
24:34
was in college from 2020 to 2022.
24:38
You got the NIL coming into effect, I believe, in 2022,
24:41
if I'm not mistaken.
24:43
You could have made money just being,
24:45
because he was the top receiver at LSU
24:48
after Jamar and Justin left.
24:50
Right, right.
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Like, there's no reason.
24:52
Bro, what are you doing?
24:54
It only says here, for that year span, April 22 to May 23,
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that only 17 of the bets were on college football games.
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And six involved LSU football.
25:04
So what the F were the other 8,000 bets on?
25:08
He's probably been on NFL games.
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Bro, I don't even know.
25:13
That's just crazy.
25:14
It's just insane that somebody would just
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throw away their whole career for this.
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Thanks to Kev, obviously.
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According to the, I don't know, whose article is this here?
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Athletic.
25:27
Oh, of course it's the athletic.
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Kev loves the athletic, for those who don't know.
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According to the affidavit, Butte bet 450,000 in 2022
25:36
and lost 65,000 that year.
25:39
Booty.
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In 2023, he bet 186,000 and lost 16,000.
25:45
Booty.
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What's he doing, bro?
25:49
Is he listening to our podcast?
25:52
You would think.
25:53
You would think.
25:54
So yeah, I mean, easy bonehead of the week.
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It was probably more like a week and a half ago,
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but it kind of overlapped with another bonehead.
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But oh, man, that's clown behavior.
26:08
Absolute clown man.
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I mean, it sucks that this dude's going to jail.
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Like, you can for like underage betting, like gambling,
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like, all right.
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I mean, I guess I don't know if he's going to jail,
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but I think it's.
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What are you in for?
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8,900 bets.
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You know what I mean?
26:27
Oh, that's funny.
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Yeah, that's pretty wild.
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Yeah, dude.
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It's like, I don't know if that should be the case.
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But I mean, hopefully he turns it around.
26:34
At the end of the day, gambling is an addiction.
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Call 1-8-1.
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I mean, no, he's not trying to joke about that.
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It is.
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And I'm not trying to sound like a good idiot.
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Call 1-800-Gambling if you have any.
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Yeah, we're saying you should not be a bonehead
26:49
and end up like Kayshon Butey.
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Gamble responsibly, at least.
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Like, don't gamble your career.
26:56
And this dude just gambled his career,
26:57
and it's probably down the drain now.
26:59
You know the rules.
27:00
Under 21, that's a major issue.
27:03
And then you obviously, you just have
27:05
to know that it's probably a pretty big negative
27:09
to be betting on the team you play for at the same time.
27:13
But yeah, I got nothing.
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I got nothing.
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Yeah, let's just move on from this absolute bonehead.
27:23
All right, now we're going to pop into some lightning round
27:25
NFL award predictions.
27:27
We're going to say who we think is actually
27:29
going to win the award.
27:31
And then we're going to recap that with who we think really
27:33
should win the award.
27:35
And we're going to start off with the biggest award of them
27:37
all, the MVP.
27:39
We got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Christian McCaffrey,
27:43
Dak Prescott, and Brock Purdy.
27:46
Smelty, who should win this award, in your opinion?
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Lamar Jackson.
27:50
Why is that?
27:51
Just all year.
27:52
He's shown all year he's the most valuable player, not only
27:55
to his team, but in the league.
27:58
Yes, they came up short in the playoffs,
28:00
but it was more than just him.
28:02
It should be Lamar Jackson.
28:04
I'm in a disagreement with you there.
28:07
I think this should be Christian McCaffrey.
28:09
What he's done for that offense in San Fran,
28:12
I think he's way more vital to that team than Brock Purdy.
28:15
Brock Purdy might be deserving of being in this conversation,
28:19
but I would take him fourth.
28:22
I'd take him fifth out of everybody on this list.
28:24
Oh, you'd put Dak above Brock?
28:25
Yeah, I would put him.
28:27
But who do you think is actually going to win it this year?
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Lamar Jackson.
28:31
I'm in agreement with you, too.
28:32
This is his award to lose.
28:33
So this one's pretty easy.
28:35
MVP Lamar, I think is going to win it.
28:38
I don't think he should.
28:39
Smelty's on board with who he should and think will win it.
28:43
We're going to pop over on the offensive side of the ball.
28:45
We have Offensive Player of the Year.
28:47
We have Tyreek Hill, Lamar Jackson, CD Lam, Christian
28:51
McCaffrey, and Dak Prescott.
28:53
I'll start us off with this one.
28:55
I mean, this is the same thing for MVP in my opinion.
28:58
I think Christian McCaffrey should win this award.
29:02
How about you?
29:03
I think if McCaffrey were to win MVP, I would like to think that Tyreek actually gets this
29:10
award.
29:11
However, if Lamar Jackson gets MVP, like yours truly stated, that Christian McCaffrey, I
29:17
would also agree, would get Offensive Player of the Year.
29:20
There's no doubt what he's done this year and what he's capable of in the receiving
29:24
game as well.
29:25
Yeah, for sure.
29:26
He's an absolute dual threat.
29:27
I think Tyreek is going to win it.
29:30
Just because with McCaffrey in the MVP discussion, I think that hurts him.
29:34
I don't think he's going to win it in the MVP.
29:36
I think he's going to finish third or fourth, to be honest with you.
29:38
I don't think that's deserving, obviously.
29:40
I just said that.
29:41
But I think this is Tyreek's award to lose this year.
29:44
We're going to pop over to the defensive side of the ball.
29:48
We have a cornerback, surprisingly, in Doron Bland.
29:51
And we have Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, Micah Parsons, TJ Watt.
29:55
Oh my, that are some edge rushers.
29:58
Who do you think is going to win this or who should win this one?
30:04
I really want to go with TJ Watt, mainly because of, I mean, he's a beast.
30:11
He leads sacks all the time.
30:13
However, the dude can't stay on the field.
30:16
So I think that hurts it for him.
30:18
So I think who should win it this year?
30:22
It's hard to argue against Max Crosby right now.
30:26
But I think TJ will probably win it.
30:29
I'm with you.
30:30
I think TJ should win this award.
30:31
I really do.
30:32
I mean, the injuries, yeah, it sucks, but he put up gaudy numbers.
30:36
Even with the injuries.
30:37
With missing games.
30:39
So this is TJ's award.
30:40
His brother couldn't even do that.
30:41
No, no.
30:42
And well, that's a hot take.
30:44
Whoa.
30:45
So I think this is TJ's award to lose.
30:55
And I do think he's going to come home with it.
30:58
I like Daron Bland being in the conversation, though.
31:00
He deserved to be in the conversation.
31:02
100%.
31:03
It's nice to see a corner in the conversation.
31:05
Yeah, for sure.
31:06
For sure.
31:07
Now we're going to pop over to offensive rookie of the year.
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This one I think is going to be one that's going to be debated among a lot of people.
31:13
But we have Jamar Gibbs, Sam Laporta, two Lions in there, Puka Nakua, Bajon Robinson
31:20
and CJ Stroud.
31:22
I think there's two people that should not be in this finalist, but who do you think
31:25
is going to win this one, man?
31:27
For me, it's a four way tie for first to be to be quite frank.
31:31
And the one left out is Bajon, just because he just too slow of a start to the year.
31:37
But he got it together.
31:38
I think he's going to have a great year too.
31:42
CJ with the injury sucks.
31:44
I think that hurts him.
31:45
I think he could still win it with the injury.
31:48
Puka Nakua with his records and all that crap.
31:51
Sam Laporta was obviously big down the stretch.
31:54
You saw it.
31:55
He was more consistent every week.
31:56
So I would maybe Sam Laporta before for me and then Jamir Gibbs.
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I mean, it's between Gibbs and Nakua for me.
32:03
I think Nakua will win it because of records.
32:06
But I think Gibbs would also deserve it.
32:09
So I'm a little bit off base with you here.
32:11
I don't think Gibbs and Bajon Robinson are deserving to be in this class with the other
32:15
three.
32:17
I think this award should go to Puka Nakua.
32:20
He broke records and yeah, he didn't have Cooper Cup, but he had Cooper Cup over half
32:24
the year and when Cooper came back, Puka didn't slow down.
32:27
But that's just it.
32:28
He didn't have Cooper Cup half the year, like you said.
32:30
So once those first couple of games came in, teams are like, oh snap, we got to cover this,
32:35
whoever the hell this Puka guy is.
32:37
And then he still did it.
32:38
So right.
32:40
I really think this this should be a blow away Puka Nakua winning this.
32:45
I'm going to guess your number two.
32:46
But I think that CJ Stroud will win it.
32:49
And it's really hard to argue against it.
32:52
It's a quarterback league.
32:54
And the thing about it is the Rams are two years away from being Super Bowl champions.
33:00
The Texans have never been to an AFC championship game.
33:04
Maybe maybe they went to one or two in the you know, JJ Watts prime.
33:09
But what CJ did to turn this team around, you can't argue against and his overall just
33:15
dominance of what he did and his importance when he was on the field is just it's a quarterback
33:20
league.
33:21
And that's why I think he will win.
33:22
But I think the award should go to Puka.
33:24
Fair enough.
33:25
Now we're going to switch over to defensive rookie of the year.
33:28
This one, it's really a toss up.
33:30
In my opinion, we got Will Anderson, Jalen Carter, Joey Porter Jr., Kobe Turner and Devon
33:37
Witherspoon.
33:38
Again, like for me, for me again, this is like a five way tie, like to be honest, like
33:45
maybe I don't know.
33:49
It's hard to argue what Will Anderson's done.
33:51
He's probably had a better year than Jalen Carter that Philly defense didn't really do
33:55
too much this year.
33:56
But I like what Witherspoon did in Seattle this year as well.
33:59
What Porter did and put like it's, I don't know, if I had to go with anybody.
34:05
And it's probably like the easiest pick, but Will Anderson, I guess.
34:10
But you know, I think it's pretty close for defense rookie there.
34:13
I'm curious who will end up getting it.
34:15
Yeah, I'm really curious on this one, too.
34:17
I think Will Anderson will win it just because he was, you know, number one overall or number
34:22
two overall pick.
34:23
You know, so he has the that that prestigiousness per se to know he was number one and then
34:27
CJ was too funny.
34:28
Almost almost sounds right.
34:29
That's uncool.
34:30
Regardless, wanting to.
34:31
He's got the prestigious top five pick tag next to him for the rest of his career.
34:37
Exactly.
34:38
And he dominated.
34:39
Trevor Lawrence is still starting.
34:40
You know, yeah, right.
34:41
So and he did dominate, you know, so like, you can't take it away from him.
34:44
But I think Devon Witherspoon should win this award.
34:48
He had such a good year.
34:50
And the other thing is he had Tariq Wolin on the other side.
34:53
So it's not like they were just, you know, letting the ball not go to Devon.
34:56
They were still, you know, they had to balance between the two.
34:59
Who are you going to throw at?
35:00
And he more than stood his own.
35:02
So I was really impressed with Devon Witherspoon and what Mike McDonald's going to be able
35:07
to do with that defense is just crazy.
35:11
This one is a topic of discussion because of.
35:16
Well, to put it bluntly, somebody died and came back to life.
35:22
So we have come back player of the year.
35:24
This is really between I mean, you can make an argument for three, but in reality, two
35:28
people in my opinion.
35:30
We have Joe Flacco, DeMar Hamlin, Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford and Tua Tua of the Miami
35:38
Dolphins.
35:39
I mean, Tua had a great year.
35:41
He did great.
35:42
I would say a great comeback year, but he's not in this conversation.
35:45
Neither is Matt Stafford, in my opinion.
35:49
The thing about DeMar Hamlin.
35:51
Yes, the dude died on the field, came back to play in the NFL at a high level.
35:56
No, he doesn't start or anything like that.
35:58
But like he came back and he's on it.
36:01
He's still on the team.
36:02
You know, I mean, it wasn't an actor for minority of the game.
36:04
Nobody's going to cut him at this point, right?
36:07
You know what I mean?
36:08
At least not the Bills.
36:09
So but if we're talking about a true comeback player of the year, like you didn't think
36:14
they're going to do anything this year and ended up doing something.
36:17
I mean, it's between Joe Flacco and Baker Mayfield for me.
36:20
And for me, it's it's Joe Flacco just being able to come literally off the couch at his
36:26
age and help the Browns get to the playoffs when they were not.
36:30
They were struggling.
36:31
That offense was struggling.
36:33
And he comes in and takes him to the playoffs.
36:35
Yes, with the defensive help, but comes in and takes him to the playoffs.
36:39
For me, it's hard to argue against Joe Flacco.
36:42
I'm 100 percent with you.
36:43
I mean, who I who's going to win this award?
36:45
It's not even who will win it.
36:46
He is going to win it.
36:47
That's DeMar Hamlin.
36:50
I don't what not much more needs to be said about that.
36:53
I mean, he was inactive for a lot of the games this year.
36:55
Like, yeah, and we're not taking anything away.
36:57
He deserves an NFL roster spot 100 percent.
36:59
But it's just it's it's an unfortunate thing of what happened to him.
37:04
And at the end of the day, regardless of if he gets this award or not, he won life.
37:09
Right.
37:10
Like, like he's still living after being being being dead, literally dead.
37:15
You know, so but this award to me is really between Joe Flacco and Baker Mayfield.
37:19
Nobody expected much out of the Bucks.
37:20
Granted, one of the worst divisions in football.
37:22
They didn't really have to do much to be successful.
37:25
But also want to play off game against the defending Super Bowl partaker in the Eagles.
37:30
Right.
37:31
And they dominated them.
37:32
I don't know why.
37:33
That's awesome.
37:34
Defending Super Bowl partaker.
37:35
I don't know why.
37:36
I cannot think of who the loser of the Super Bowl is.
37:39
But that's what the Eagles were.
37:40
And but but Joe Flacco, what he did to that Browns team, their offense was in just absolute
37:44
just shambles, shambles, right.
37:47
They were just terrible.
37:48
He took the team.
37:49
He he put them on their back.
37:50
And yeah, they had a great defense.
37:51
But he was also making plays.
37:53
He threw for over 300 yards, the majority of the time through some picks.
37:56
Yeah.
37:57
But he also threw the tugs.
37:58
Right.
37:59
So I think this award should go to Joe Flacco.
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But Baker definitely put his name in there, man.
38:03
He definitely played more than he exceeded expectations.
38:08
So we're going to have our second to last award here.
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The coach of the year.
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This one is really, really going to be a big.
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A lot of people should and can win this award.
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We have Dan Campbell, John Harbaugh, D'Amico Ryan's, Kyan, Kyle Shanahan and Kevin Stefanski.
38:30
I'll lead us off on this one.
38:32
This one smellsy.
38:33
I think this award will be one and should go to Dan Campbell.
38:38
They had expectations of being, you know, good this year.
38:41
They were favored to be the number one like team in the NFC North as they should have
38:45
been.
38:46
But what he's done to this team, what he means to this team, how he's bought into the city,
38:50
the ownership, what it's like football means.
38:53
It's just no better locker room guy in the league than Dan Campbell.
38:56
D'Amico Ryan's very close second.
38:58
Yeah, I agree with the locker room bit on Dan Campbell.
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We know what John Harbaugh gave us.
39:04
And it's crazy to think that he's really not in the conversation truly, even though what
39:09
his team did was outstanding this year.
39:11
But he's not in the conversation.
39:12
And the same can be said about Kyle Shanahan.
39:15
Like what he did this year is insane, but he's not in that conversation either.
39:19
Those were expectations that they had to make and succeed at and they did.
39:24
Cool.
39:25
The guys like Kevin Stefanski, who lost his starting quarterback, had to go to two or
39:30
three different quarterbacks.
39:31
Now Joe Flacco off the couch, still somehow kept the defense together.
39:34
There's some to be said about that.
39:36
Easy third.
39:38
But it is between Dan Campbell and D'Amico Ryan's for me as well.
39:40
And it's hard.
39:41
I totally, I'm 100% with you.
39:45
I agree with everything you said about Dan Campbell.
39:47
But I just, I don't know if I can pick one between these two.
39:50
To be fun, I'm going to pick D'Amico Ryan's.
39:54
But I mean, the dude had a great season.
39:56
I mean, to take that Texan scene like you already mentioned that hasn't been to an AFC
40:00
Championship win, who knows God win, if ever.
40:02
Because what?
40:03
They've been in league since 02?
40:04
Something like that.
40:06
But like, it's hard to argue against D'Amico Ryan's.
40:10
And you lose C.J.
40:12
Stroud, who you've now started to lean on.
40:15
And you still get by and get into the playoffs.
40:18
And not only get into the playoffs, but you almost look like you could have won it.
40:23
At least one game.
40:26
To me, this is a 1A, 1B award.
40:28
And I don't know who I could put at A or B, if it matters.
40:31
I'll be more than happy with either of these two coaches winning it.
40:34
What D'Amico did with literally the worst team in the league last year.
40:37
There's a reason you got the number one pick.
40:39
You just so happened to trade DeAndre Hopkins and get the number two pick.
40:43
No matter who wins, I'll be happy for who won.
40:46
And I'll be happy who get or I'll be feel bad for who got second, no matter the order.
40:50
Like it's just, yeah, tough.
40:52
That's a toss up.
40:54
I'm 100% with you, brother.
40:55
I'm 100% with you.
40:57
And before we get to the granddaddy of them all, we have our own special award this year.
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It's I would like to say long awaited, but nobody knew it was coming.
41:08
We have Smelty's Bonehead of the year.
41:13
And we don't even, and this is just going straight off the dome.
41:17
Like I don't even, that was, oh gosh, who says that?
41:20
There's a guy on YouTube, what's his name, that like raps and he always says straight
41:24
off the dome.
41:25
He's super good.
41:26
You got to check him out.
41:27
Anyway.
41:28
Only I knew his name.
41:29
No doubt, right?
41:30
I'll have to, I'll have to get you that.
41:40
But anyway, yeah, Bonehead of the year.
41:42
And again, without the list in front of me, I think it's pretty easy because we had a
41:47
two time Bonehead this year.
41:50
For me, it's Mr. Tepper of the Carolina Panthers.
41:56
Easy because he was two time Bonehead, but also just the whole drink throwing thing was
42:01
just such a, such a BS move from a guy that's like has everything and he's got to throw
42:07
his drink on something because he's like, you know, disappointed with whatever the heck
42:10
they're saying at him.
42:12
And then the firing, it's just the whole thing, dude.
42:14
Like he's patient, but he's not, it's just everything.
42:18
If you remember and listened, if you didn't go back and check out some of our older episodes
42:23
and find the David Tepper Boneheads, but that's, that's my Bonehead of the year.
42:29
It's your award, brother.
42:30
This is your time to shine.
42:31
I can't disagree with a billionaire through a drink at a civilian.
42:35
Yeah.
42:36
It's totally uncalled for.
42:38
So you have it here, David Tepper Bonehead of the year.
42:41
If I could just throw an honorary mention in there, I'm going to have to go with Mike
42:45
Thomas throwing the brick at the car.
42:46
Oh yeah.
42:47
That's right.
42:48
Yeah.
42:49
That was pretty bad too.
42:50
That's a, yeah, I like it.
42:53
Mike Thomas, honorable mention Bonehead of the year.
42:55
Well, that's all we got for the awards this week.
42:58
We're going to move into the granddaddy of them all.
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The biggest game of the year we have Super Bowl 58.
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Well Smolci let's get into it, man.
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Super Bowl 58.
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We have the Kansas city chiefs taking on the San Francisco 49ers in Las Vegas.
43:23
I mean, I guess I'm going to tell you that it's not the Super Bowl I wanted, but this
43:29
is the Super Bowl we're given.
43:31
So yeah, I mean, if so that the thing is, if the 49ers win, they're now tied with the
43:37
Steelers and the Patriots with six championships a piece.
43:41
I didn't know that.
43:42
I didn't know they were that close.
43:43
I knew they had a bunch from like the Joe Montana stuff and Jerry Rice and crap, but
43:47
I didn't know they were that close.
43:50
So that would put the Niners into elite franchise, one could say.
43:56
Absolutely.
43:57
I was not aware of that either.
43:59
Good for the Niners.
44:00
Anyway, screw the Niners.
44:03
But yeah, no bias.
44:06
So I also have one more thing to throw at you.
44:09
The whole white jersey conspiracy deal, whatever for the Super Bowl.
44:15
How if you wear the white jersey of a better chance to win the Super Bowl.
44:19
Well that's actually true.
44:20
So in the 57 Super Bowls, white jerseys are 37 and 20.
44:25
That's a big number.
44:27
That's actually quite a difference.
44:29
So who's wearing white?
44:31
I don't know.
44:32
How are you going to have?
44:34
I think it's actually the I think it was the Chiefs, but I could be wrong.
44:38
I'm probably wrong.
44:39
Don't worry, Kev's on it.
44:41
I was going to look it up and then totally blanked on it.
44:43
So the Niners are wearing white.
44:46
Well, Niners are going to wear white.
44:49
Then I guess white jerseys will be 37 and 21.
44:54
Oh, so we have a prediction out of Mr. Smelty.
44:59
So we didn't get into this, but the Chiefs are actually a two and a half point underdog
45:05
in this game.
45:06
The Niners come in as the two and a half point favorite.
45:08
I Chiefs, do you think Patty Mahomes is getting his third day?
45:14
I mean, after this playoff run, absolutely.
45:17
I don't I don't think there's anything that's getting the Chiefs way, but specifically Patrick
45:20
Mahomes.
45:21
He's shown you time and time again every week.
45:23
This playoffs is Patrick playoff magic.
45:28
I hate it.
45:30
Like he's almost so good that I hate him.
45:32
It's the same thing as Tom Brady.
45:33
It's the same thing as Brett Favre.
45:35
But I love Brett Favre when he came to the Vikings.
45:37
But I'm just saying it's the same thing with Aaron Rodgers.
45:39
Like he was so good that I disliked him, you know, and that's where I'm at with Mahomes.
45:43
But like I can respect how good he is.
45:45
And it is he's a I hate to even say this.
45:49
He's just a spectacle to watch play football.
45:54
So I agree with everything you just said outside of obviously the far Vin Rogers, except for
45:59
what you did say about him with the Vikings.
46:01
Definitely disagree with that because that's just silly.
46:04
But that's Vikings you've had in a while, though, so you can thank a Packer.
46:08
Bounty Gate.
46:09
Yeah.
46:10
Anyway, thank a pet.
46:11
Thank your local packer.
46:12
Thank your local packer.
46:13
Too many of them in Minnesota.
46:15
I disagree, though.
46:16
I think the Niners are going to cover that two and a half.
46:17
And I think the Niners are going to win this game by seven.
46:20
By seven.
46:21
I do, man.
46:22
I do.
46:23
I think this Niners defense is going to show up when they need to.
46:25
Most are going to get pressure on Mahomes and not allow them to make the spectacular
46:31
plays per se.
46:32
You know, it's the also the the the other thing here that is the driving force behind
46:37
this is I don't think the Chiefs can stop Christian McCaffrey in this Niners run game.
46:41
So I mean that and that's one of our points, right?
46:45
Is McCaffrey verse the Kansas City defense as a whole, whether it's McCaffrey running
46:50
or McCaffrey receiving, the dude is can do it all.
46:54
But I just I don't I think we're going to see too many mistakes out of Brock Purdy in
47:00
the Super Bowl.
47:01
I just I don't know.
47:03
Now if he goes on and wins and has a great game, whatever he could go.
47:07
I don't know.
47:08
Seventeen for twenty one throw for two twenty two and two tuds and like that's a lot of
47:13
twos.
47:14
I don't know.
47:15
I don't know what's going on with that.
47:16
But like like if he did that, that's cool.
47:19
Like, all right, I got to give I got to give pretty as flowers.
47:22
I'm just not ready.
47:23
And I don't know why.
47:24
I don't know what else he has to prove to me.
47:26
Obviously he has to go win the Super Bowl for me to like for that to happen.
47:30
But I don't know, Mr. Relevance gonna we'll see.
47:34
But anyway, back on McCaffrey, like he is the main the main tool that the 49ers need
47:40
to use to try to break that defense.
47:43
And I just think that you give McCaffrey two weeks of rest.
47:47
You give him fresh legs.
47:49
The Niners, they just they're so good schematically running the ball.
47:54
It's not all inside zone.
47:56
It's not outside stretch.
47:57
They can do everything, whatever.
47:59
And then throw Debo in there and then you throw Debo in there.
48:01
You throw McCaffrey out in the slot or you have McCaffrey run a Texas run.
48:05
You play action to Kittle.
48:06
And it's just now you got Brandon, are you going down the seam?
48:09
And it's just like it's just it's hard to stop.
48:11
It is it is.
48:12
It all starts with McCaffrey.
48:15
It does.
48:16
It really does start and kind of end with McCaffrey, right?
48:20
If McCaffrey has one hundred twenty five all scrimmage yards, that's tough to win.
48:24
Touchdowns this game.
48:26
It's over.
48:27
Probably the Niners win this game unless if Purdy has a Ravens like performance.
48:31
Right.
48:32
I don't see Purdy doing that because I don't see Shanahan giving him the opportunity to
48:38
do so.
48:39
I think this is finally the time that Shanahan gets his redemption in the Super Bowl.
48:43
You you love Shanahan, don't you?
48:46
I don't know throughout the season, but like you respect.
48:49
His scheme and how he does things from an offensive mind, I think he's one of the biggest
48:55
offensive geniuses the NFL has ever seen.
48:58
OK, sure.
49:01
And that's in large part credit to do it with his father, who was also sure.
49:07
You know, but he's still he's a person.
49:09
He's a tree of his dad.
49:11
He took like his dad system and made it his own, and now it's the NFL.
49:16
It's like the McVeigh Shanahan.
49:18
They're very, very, very similar in their coaching systems.
49:21
But that's only on the offensive side of the ball.
49:23
Right.
49:24
That's where this Niners defense is going to be revved up.
49:27
And I think they're going to get pressure on my homes and make him throw the ball in
49:32
spots where he doesn't want to and make some of those homes try to be spectacular plays.
49:37
And the Niners defense doesn't allow it and ends up picking the ball off or getting that
49:41
timely deflection.
49:43
And that leads to our biggest point second or second biggest point here.
49:46
The biggest chiefs point here.
49:48
I'm sorry, the biggest Niners point here and stopping the Chiefs is not allowing Kelsey
49:52
to sit in those zones, find the openings and him and Travis or him and my homes have the
49:57
exact same mind.
49:58
They know exactly where those three or four option routes at the end of that route come
50:01
to.
50:02
They know exactly where they're going and putting the ball there.
50:06
Brad Warner and Dre Greenlaw are going to have to play the games of their lives.
50:09
I mean, and that's just it, right?
50:11
Like you've seen it all playoffs and now you're in the Super Bowl.
50:14
Now and now you're looking you're like, do we if you're San Francisco defense, you're
50:19
like, do we have to play some sort of tight end spy with a man over top or something like
50:28
because he Kelsey continually finds those spots in the zone where there's nobody he
50:33
knows where the soft spots are and he just sits there and waits and my homes finds him.
50:37
It's kind of hard not to see the guy, but like he just he finds the soft spot every
50:42
time.
50:43
So that's why it's a key for for the banner crew here is that like San Francisco needs
50:48
to shut that down.
50:50
They do and that's going to be that's going to be they need to tie.
50:53
I just think they need to bring pressure to while they're also shutting that down.
50:57
You need to get my homes.
50:58
Now my homes is good outside the pocket, but collapse the pocket before even has a chance.
51:02
You got to suffocate my homes his pocket to have a chance this game.
51:06
You do and that's where like as much as it's stopping Travis Kelsey, I think one of the
51:11
other biggest keys here for this Niners defense is how impactful are Chase Young and Nick
51:16
Bosa going to be off the edge.
51:18
They haven't really done it this playoffs man.
51:21
Jordan Love wasn't under pressure.
51:23
Jared Goff wasn't under a lot of pressure.
51:26
Do you believe the rumblings that Chase Young isn't going to start because of his lack of
51:31
effort?
51:32
I mean, I don't see I mean you have to do what's best for the team at this point and
51:36
obviously he's not giving you the production you hope for and trading for him.
51:39
I mean, especially in the most crucial part of the year where you would like to think
51:43
he can put that aside to go and try to ring chain not ring chase but win a Super Bowl
51:47
because when he puts in 100% effort on a play.
51:50
But he's so fast with his hands.
51:53
He sold I don't understand like he could be such a better player, but you do see it.
51:59
He takes plays off.
52:00
And in the Super Bowl, you can't it's not an option.
52:03
You can't have it.
52:04
Yeah, I could see him playing more of a third down roll, you know, coming in and passing
52:08
situations where you're going to get some pressure on the quarterback.
52:11
But he's turning into a liability on first and second down.
52:13
Do you think maybe he sees it's a rush?
52:15
It's like at the line already.
52:16
He's like, I'm done.
52:17
I should look I'm curious because I didn't I know he takes some plays off but I wonder
52:21
if they're mainly run plays and he likes you know, goes all out on a pass rush when he
52:26
knows he's, you know, got a chance to get in there but if he's like got no chance like
52:30
Yeah, maybe.
52:31
I don't know.
52:32
I mean, I haven't looked into it enough.
52:33
I just heard it this week and I was like, that's kind of that's kind of random.
52:36
Like, I would I would absolutely be starting chase young on Madden.
52:40
But I guess you know, obviously in real life, if he's not given effort, you can't send him
52:45
out there.
52:46
Yeah, you can't have any sort of liability going into a Super Bowl man and and you would
52:50
hope to think maybe the Niners even PR leaked a little bit of that to maybe give him some
52:54
internal motivation and prove these guys wrong and go play the best game of his life.
52:58
You can see that it's a Super Bowl man, you're going to do whatever it takes to get any edge
53:02
you can get.
53:03
That's what you would hope.
53:04
That's what you would hope.
53:05
But they they need if they can get Bosa and young to like I said, suffocate that pocket
53:10
immediately.
53:11
Now you got my homes kind of now you got him thinking rather than just doing if my homes
53:16
has to think it's with any quarterback really but if you get him to think like now he's
53:21
now he's gonna make mistakes.
53:23
He's gonna go out there and do what he knows how to do.
53:26
This is his job is like he's one of the best to do it right now that we're seeing.
53:31
He's probably the best in the game today right now at the quarterback position.
53:34
I don't think that's debatable, you know, so and he's now playing for another Super Bowl.
53:40
So I just you got to get him to think it's not only thinking you have to put my homes
53:45
in a reactionary state of mind, right?
53:47
He has to like you got to get him to react to what's going on.
53:50
Now that's where his greatness comes out and that's all you see and then he highlights
53:54
a recap so you don't see the same situation where he throws a ball where he shouldn't
53:57
have and it gets picked or he gets away with not putting the ball where he needs to be
54:01
right.
54:02
But that could be a key third down.
54:05
You know you have to you have to get my homes like you said thinking get him in a reactionary
54:10
state of mind and just don't allow Travis Kelsey to eat.
54:16
Shut him down on the red zone put two people on him.
54:18
And on and on the other side of that like you you know, San Francisco is going to be
54:23
keen on Kelsey.
54:25
You got to establish Pacheco early early early early you got to have Pacheco early so you
54:30
can open up Kelsey because you know they're going to watch him.
54:33
You know they're already looking at him.
54:35
So you got to get Pacheco going.
54:37
And that's where you know Dre Greenlaw and Fred Warner going to come into play shutting
54:41
down that inside run and Javon Hargrave.
54:43
They paid him a lot of money.
54:44
He has to prove his worth today this week.
54:46
Yeah, no doubt.
54:48
And it's hard for for Greenlaw and Warner.
54:51
It's hard for a middle linebacker because you got to look out for a runner back that's
54:55
like Pacheco who may be on the smaller side but he doesn't run like that at all.
54:59
So you gotta be ready for that.
55:01
But then you got to be ready for Kelsey to sneak right behind you while you're paying
55:04
attention to Pacheco.
55:05
Like it's a hard position to play.
55:07
And those are two of the best guys to be doing it right now as well.
55:10
So that's what the Niners have going for them.
55:13
But it's going to be a great game.
55:15
It really is going to be a great game.
55:16
You know, it might not be who everybody wanted to see in the Super Bowl.
55:20
But at the end of the day, you know, you can make a strong argument.
55:25
You have the two best teams in football playing for the Super Bowl.
55:29
Now the Ravens versus Chiefs that that argument could be made, but they didn't show up when
55:33
they needed to.
55:36
And that's just it.
55:37
And that's why I have to go with the Chiefs.
55:39
Yeah.
55:40
And it's hard to argue against it.
55:41
I don't love two and a half.
55:42
This game opened as a one and a half point spread.
55:44
I'd like it a lot more.
55:45
One and a half, which is crazy that it went up another point for the 49ers favor.
55:51
These playoff spreads, bro.
55:53
It's just playoff spreads are just wild this year.
55:55
Yeah, I don't I don't quite get that book.
55:57
No, it's not.
55:58
Yeah, I dude, I don't know script.
56:00
That's not going to that.
56:03
That's not going to that.
56:04
But we're all we're super excited, man.
56:07
We got the Super Bowl coming.
56:09
It wraps up the NFL season and then we get into that draft talk a little bit, see what
56:13
the future's ahead for our franchises who aren't happen to be playing this week.
56:17
Well, yeah, we well we got to get to the draft talk so we know the Packers demise for the
56:22
next 10 years.
56:24
You know, just so we know, it's interesting that you know, number 10 there as in the next
56:29
10 years of greatness from the number 10 wearer.
56:33
That's really unfortunate.
56:34
11 next 11 years of the Packers.
56:37
Oh, so Jaden Reed happens to be another great rookie this year.
56:40
OK, nine.
56:41
What do you got to say about Christian Watson?
56:42
Yeah, he's going to be in the league in 10 years, bro.
56:43
I don't know if he's going to be in the league in 10 years.
56:48
God take us home.
56:51
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