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INTERVIEW: Luther "Uncle Luke" Campbell Discusses His U.S. Congressional Run. · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Every day we click up the Breakfast Club. You're finish
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Speaker 1: for y'all? Done morning, everybody's the j n V.
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Speaker 2: Just hilarious, charlamage the guy we are the breakfast Club,
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Speaker 2: Law and the Roses here as well. We got a
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Speaker 2: special guest in the buildings. Indeed, y'all might know him
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Speaker 2: is Uncle Loop. But ladies and gentlemen, Luther Campbell is here.
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Speaker 2: He's running for Senate, running for Congress.
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Speaker 3: Good morning.
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Speaker 4: I wish I was, I wish I could vote for
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Speaker 4: I wish I was in Florida.
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Speaker 5: And oh man, that's a beautiful thing. So that's official endorsement.
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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Endorsement, Yes, endorsement, endorsement. Okay, that's great.
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Speaker 6: Why would you not want somebody who's from the community,
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Speaker 6: born and raised there, has invested so much in it.
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Speaker 6: We've seen you do so much for your community, just
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Speaker 6: as a as an artist.
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Speaker 4: And as a man. So why wouldn't I want that
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Speaker 4: as an elected official?
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Speaker 2: From the gift bags to the teaching the kids in
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Speaker 2: football and so many different things. Why wouldn't we want
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Speaker 2: somebody from the community to run the community.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's common sense.
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Speaker 5: I mean that's what I'm running on the fact that
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Speaker 5: that did all those things in the community more so.
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Speaker 5: And mind me, but I live in Broward, you know,
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Speaker 5: Browed for the last fifteen years, and that's what I'm
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Speaker 5: running on.
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Speaker 1: I'm running on my record, the things that I've done.
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Speaker 5: You know, built parks, you know, twenty six million dollar parts,
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Speaker 5: another sixteen million dollars, being one of the one of
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Speaker 5: the founders of Southern hip hop, you know, small business.
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm more proud of the people who work
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Speaker 5: behind the scenior. Other than discovering the pit bulls and
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Speaker 5: trick daddies and getting them boys off the street, you
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Speaker 5: know when they were going the wrong direction. You know,
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Speaker 5: I'm more proud of the guys behind the scene, like
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Speaker 5: Jeff Sanchez working for the NBA and Big Teach owning
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Speaker 5: a you know, a house of mac chain and all
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Speaker 5: those things like that, and those type of things that
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Speaker 5: you know, I want to bring, you know to my district,
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Speaker 5: bring you know, federal funding there unlike anybody else have
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Speaker 5: ever did before, you know, and do some good things
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Speaker 5: for brow County.
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Speaker 2: Now, I was looking at Googly running for Congress of
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Speaker 2: what it would cost. Now there's no direct cost, but
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Speaker 2: it says, running for Congress is very, very expensive. Now,
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Speaker 2: how has that been for you? Because I'm sure whoever
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Speaker 2: you're going against is probably sponsored and raising money like crazy,
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Speaker 2: So how has that been for you?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Debbie Wasserman Shoots came into the race from another district.
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Speaker 5: You know, she came in the race with three million
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Speaker 5: dollars and fifteen million dollars in pack money. You know,
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Speaker 5: my other you know, her money combined to all the
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Speaker 5: other opponents that are in, all the other people in
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Speaker 5: the race, you know, triples the amount of money that
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Speaker 5: we all have.
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Speaker 1: You know, I got into the race.
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Speaker 5: I originally looked down my list of contacts in my
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Speaker 5: phone and I said, well, I got these guys, these guys,
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Speaker 5: these guys, and I really only need by a million
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Speaker 5: or two with this one, this one and doing this
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Speaker 5: fundraiser with Ludacris, I'm doing the fundraiser with Ross, I'm
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Speaker 5: doing the fundraiser with and I thought I was gonna
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Speaker 5: be able to raise millions of dollars.
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Speaker 1: And I didn't. I didn't because most people came to
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Speaker 1: the fundraiser for a.
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Speaker 5: Photo while you know, and I have a good time,
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Speaker 5: and a lot of people didn't really understand a lot
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Speaker 5: of people don't understand, you know, how important it is
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Speaker 5: to UH to put money into campaigns. I guess the
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Speaker 5: only person who understands Chili with Donald Trump when she made.
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Speaker 1: It, you know.
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Speaker 5: That, Yeah, I did, you know, But when I look
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Speaker 5: at where we're at right now today, she was smart
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Speaker 5: enough to put money on what candidate that she liked,
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Speaker 5: whether we liked that candidate or not. But why the
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Speaker 5: rest of the hip hop, why the rest of this culture,
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Speaker 5: you know, didn't jump on a race like my race.
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Speaker 5: You know, I've called up comedians and talked to their husband,
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Speaker 5: Black comedians and say, hey, look, I need to do
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Speaker 5: a fundraiser with you, and they said, oh, politics. But
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day of representing the body
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Speaker 5: of people that are purchasing your tickets, which don't make
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Speaker 5: any sense to me. And so, you know, when I
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Speaker 5: look at this race, I say, are we hypocritical? And
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Speaker 5: then I think about it from the standpoint of is
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Speaker 5: the culture ready to move into politics?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 7: Uh?
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Speaker 1: And I know.
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Speaker 5: Everybody, whether it was Black Caucuss, White caucus, you name it,
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Speaker 5: they're always looking at those fundraisers to see how how
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Speaker 5: they generate funds for a race like that to say yes,
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Speaker 5: you know, you know the cultures us representing all of
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Speaker 5: our life is now, you know, moving into a place
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Speaker 5: where we are really serious about politics.
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Speaker 2: I think we're starting to have those conversations now. I
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Speaker 2: think it's we're a lot of late, were a lot
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Speaker 2: of late coming to the table with having those conversations.
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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people, you know, their first
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Speaker 2: thing is why am I gonna give this person?
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Speaker 3: He got money?
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Speaker 2: But I don't think they A lot of people don't
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Speaker 2: necessarily know that you need money for advertisement, you need
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Speaker 2: money for travel, you need money for all the things.
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Speaker 2: So for people that's listening right now, it says, hey,
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Speaker 2: we want to support uncle Luke.
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Speaker 3: Right where can they donate?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 3: We'll do it throughout this interview, but where can they
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Speaker 3: do it right now?
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Speaker 5: They go to my website ww dot Luthercampbell for Congress
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Speaker 5: dot com and make a campaign contribution. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 5: either I tell people, hey, five dollars go a long way.
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Speaker 5: Most of the parties look at the five dollars because
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Speaker 5: the five dollars are real people that's really really supporting
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Speaker 5: the campaign. So we look at that. I mean, you
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Speaker 5: know this with this particular campaign. It's very very important.
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Speaker 5: I mean, the world is watching this race, you know,
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Speaker 5: because we have a situation where we screamed and holler
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Speaker 5: at the Republicans when they Jerryman died the map in
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Speaker 5: Louisiana and Tennessee and Alabama and took black representation away.
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Speaker 1: Now the Democrats.
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Speaker 5: Are doing it, you know, with w Watson Schultz, and
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Speaker 5: nobody said nothing from the black caucas you know, which
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Speaker 5: I find and to be very hypocritical. But I do
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Speaker 5: understand because it's elite that they support, you know, and uh,
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Speaker 5: and I don't think they would want a guy like
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Speaker 5: myself coming up there to burn it down, because that
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Speaker 5: is in fact what I'm gonna go, do you know.
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Speaker 5: I'm going there to represent the people, real people, real
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Speaker 5: people who are in dealing with real struggles in their life.
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Speaker 6: Do you want people to vote for your ideas or
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Speaker 6: for the legend of Uncle Luke, because those aren't necessarily
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Speaker 6: the same thing.
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Speaker 5: I want them to vote for my ideas. I want
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Speaker 5: them to vote on on my track record, you know,
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Speaker 5: the things that I've done. You know, I be laughing
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Speaker 5: all the time when I hear Jay Z record when
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Speaker 5: he say Jay maybe I made me. This one made
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Speaker 5: means And then I look at my track record, how
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Speaker 5: many guys that I created and made millionaires, whether it's
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Speaker 5: through my youth program, liber City Optimists are just doing
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Speaker 5: the work in the community, bringing you know, stability and
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Speaker 5: you know, just building and you know, bringing Adidas to
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Speaker 5: the table to you know, broke a fifty million dollar
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Speaker 5: deal for the entire school district for sports, you know,
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Speaker 5: and those type of things. So you know, I don't
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Speaker 5: I don't want people to look at me as an artist.
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Speaker 5: But then at the same time, you can't look at
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Speaker 5: me as an entrepreneur because the people in my race,
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Speaker 5: nobody has.
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Speaker 1: Held the job. They all came.
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Speaker 5: And you know, well, my main opponent never held a job.
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Speaker 5: She went straight from University of Florida into politics and
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Speaker 5: never had a never owned a small business. And so
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Speaker 5: I look at it to say I owned.
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Speaker 1: A small business.
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Speaker 5: I did I do to this day philanthropical work, you know,
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Speaker 5: in my community, and that's the most important part of it.
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Speaker 5: And you know, people run because they have money, but
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Speaker 5: I really think that you should. When they do the
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Speaker 5: qualification box, it needs to say how much work you've
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Speaker 5: done in the community and how many things you've done,
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Speaker 5: and when I could sit there all day and talk
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Speaker 5: about all the stuff that I did that most people
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Speaker 5: don't know, uh, and how deep I've always been in
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Speaker 5: the politics because I do understand that, you know, our
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Speaker 5: tax paying dollars, you know, going to the slush fund.
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Speaker 2: They try to use, you know, Uncle Luke the rapper
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Speaker 2: against you. Have you seen that a lot?
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Speaker 5: Not really that? And and I was I thought they were.
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Speaker 5: I was laying dead.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 6: They came when they was in the club to them.
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Speaker 7: Because like with the with everything you did with the
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Speaker 7: Supreme Court, and NA says, they want to be like
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Speaker 7: you've kind of been fighting for people and their voices, so.
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Speaker 4: You kind of I mean, you have the reason that
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Speaker 4: we have.
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, so that wouldn't work out for them if
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Speaker 8: they tried.
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't work out.
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Speaker 5: And you're right, I mean in this climate today, you know,
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Speaker 5: going to Washington, you got to be a fighter. And
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Speaker 5: so that was one of the reasons why I say, Okay,
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Speaker 5: the time is down to run for Congress because of
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Speaker 5: what the climate that you have. You got to be
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Speaker 5: a fighter, you know, and fight for free speech, going
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Speaker 5: all the way to Supreme Court and winning. When I
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Speaker 5: had our Gore and his wife Tipic Gored coming after us,
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Speaker 5: and you know, and having uh, you name it, dan
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Speaker 5: Quell mentioned our name and fighting Nick Navarro and fighting
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Speaker 5: out the Governor Martinez and making songs about him.
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Speaker 1: You know that was something serious.
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Speaker 5: Those are real fights, and and uh, I'm not I'm
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Speaker 5: not scared of anybody, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I'm not scared of Trump.
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Speaker 5: You know, we all probably went to a party other
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Speaker 5: than going to when he was a Democrat. You know,
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Speaker 5: Marco Rubio a good friend of mine, you know, so
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Speaker 5: I know I can go have some conversations with those
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Speaker 5: people about some of the things.
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Speaker 1: That that our district need and the country need.
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Speaker 9: Want to go back to It's funny that you say,
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Speaker 9: you know, you reached out to certain you know, comedians
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Speaker 9: and people, and the first thing needed was get shook, like,
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Speaker 9: oh my god, no, you're going into politics. When I
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Speaker 9: saw a quote that you said, politics don't only happen
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Speaker 9: in Washington, d C. It happens every day at your
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Speaker 9: kitchen table, and a lot of time people don't even
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Speaker 9: realize that, yeah, you are into politics. But when I
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Speaker 9: first got this job, I thought I didn't know anything
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Speaker 9: about it.
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Speaker 10: But you know more than you think you know?
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Speaker 9: You know, can you expound doing like the politics being
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Speaker 9: every day at the kitchen table because some people don't
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Speaker 9: even realize.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, most people don't.
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Speaker 5: Most people don't realize it because for some reason, you know,
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Speaker 5: in our community, there's no we just missed the Civics class,
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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Uh, And I when I
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Speaker 5: start talking to people, I have to have those conversations,
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Speaker 5: like even the artists that support the campaign, I have
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Speaker 5: to explain to them, you know, why fundraiser these different things.
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Speaker 5: And then going back to your original question, we are
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Speaker 5: all in it. You know when we sit down at
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Speaker 5: the kitchen table and we complain about the high cost
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Speaker 5: of living, the high cost of insurance, and in Florida,
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Speaker 5: you know, you got insurance that's jacked up on top
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Speaker 5: of everything else that's jacked up, and so people are
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Speaker 5: trying to figure out how to how to bayle. That's
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Speaker 5: the budget at the kitchen table, and it all falls
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Speaker 5: back on politics. You don't un necessary things that you need.
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Speaker 5: So people don't know that they're in it, but they
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Speaker 5: do know that they're in it. And one good thing
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Speaker 5: about these people in my district. They're well aware of
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Speaker 5: the issue. They're well aware of this woman, Debbie washermon
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Speaker 5: Shoes coming and trying to take away a seat, and
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Speaker 5: everybody has denounced her on every corner. I mean, because
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Speaker 5: I mean when you look at people talk about Memphis
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Speaker 5: right in the crime rate at Memphis, you know, and
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Speaker 5: not knowing.
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Speaker 1: How it got there.
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Speaker 5: You had Gerald Ford Senior, you know, the congressman, then
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Speaker 5: Gerald Ford Jr. Congressman, and then you had a guy
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Speaker 5: named Steve Cohen, then ran in a crowded race of
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Speaker 5: black people, like this crowded race of black people here
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Speaker 5: and one. And at that period of time when the
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Speaker 5: Ford family were the congressman, they only had one hundred
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Speaker 5: and sixty debts, and now that Steve is that they
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Speaker 5: have three hundred.
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Speaker 1: And eighty five debts a year. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: So these are the things that happen when you have
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Speaker 5: a representative coming to your district that is not from
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Speaker 5: the district and don't have any idea of how people
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Speaker 5: function on a regular basis.
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Speaker 6: I want to go back to what you were saying
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Speaker 6: about the community qualifying you, right, what's something you've learned
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Speaker 6: coaching kids and serving you know, your community that these
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Speaker 6: career politicians simply can't understand.
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Speaker 5: What they can't understand is taking a budget, taking this
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Speaker 5: budget and applying the budget to.
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Speaker 1: The people in the community, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: So I mean, you know, coaching, you know, you know
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Speaker 5: when I get on a bus for eighteen years, you know,
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Speaker 5: when my career don down, I said'm'n go back to
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Speaker 5: my youth program and start coaching and get on the bus,
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Speaker 5: you know, because I need to take these kids out
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Speaker 5: of the community.
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Speaker 1: Because what happened with me.
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Speaker 5: You know, when I was running hard in the city,
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Speaker 5: my mom sent me the d see to stay with
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Speaker 5: my brother for a year, and that just opened my
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Speaker 5: mind up. Just taking these kids out of the community,
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Speaker 5: put them on the bus, taking them to college, on
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Speaker 5: the college tour around the country.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, just like, Okay, these kids do look
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Speaker 1: like you, you know, and so they don't understand that
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Speaker 1: part of it.
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Speaker 5: They don't understand, you know, the real touching of people
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Speaker 5: and being able to, like I say, to get a
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Speaker 5: trick daddy off the street, come straight from prison and
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Speaker 5: live with me and pit Bull who's out there hustling
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Speaker 5: and selling everything you can imagine, you know, and bringing
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Speaker 5: those people and just putting the hug around them and say, man,
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Speaker 5: you're special. You God gave you a gift. Use this
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Speaker 5: gift to your ability. And they don't understand that part.
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Speaker 5: And then they don't understand vision, I mean simple vision
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Speaker 5: of Okay, we're gonna you know, like my plan is
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Speaker 5: like they never expanded the port in sixty years. In
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Speaker 5: the budget, there's five being house expand the port that
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Speaker 5: brings in more jobs. They don't underst the common folk
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Speaker 5: don't understand that that. You know, when you build affordable housing,
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Speaker 5: what happens we build afordabs. We tell the people in
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Speaker 5: the projects, we're gonna move you over here and we're
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Speaker 5: gonna build these new houses for you. And then when
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Speaker 5: you come back, you got to jump through all kind
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Speaker 5: of hoops, but you can't qualify to get back in
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Speaker 5: there because they built it for them. And you know,
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Speaker 5: and that's why, you know, that's why I kind of
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Speaker 5: went hard last week on Alonzo morning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because because you know, you can't be a part.
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Speaker 5: You can't roll around with Trump hood housing guy. What
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Speaker 5: the brother name got to bring freeze when he was
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Speaker 5: there in his first administration. And you go into these
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Speaker 5: government projects and you're going.
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Speaker 1: Now, you're.
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Speaker 5: You can't run around our projects were being carson and
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Speaker 5: then then turn around try to run around with with W.
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Speaker 5: Watson shoe Sou's trying to take black representation away from
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Speaker 5: a district that has held black representation.
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Speaker 1: So many years. So they don't they don't understand it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, what was it about it that pissed you off?
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Speaker 1: Some back?
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Speaker 4: I know he endorsed w but he not even from
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Speaker 4: the district, right.
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Speaker 1: No, not even from the district. Don't even hang out
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Speaker 1: in Broadwood.
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Speaker 5: But but we know that some there are some people
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Speaker 5: you know that are in there, that are in in.
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Speaker 1: Our town, and they're there. They're there to take advantage.
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Speaker 5: They're they're they're part of the uh you know, they're
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Speaker 5: the black face uh in the white organization that is
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Speaker 5: trying to take over you know, these housing projects. They're
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Speaker 5: to develop us. And you know that's why my campaign,
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Speaker 5: I ain't take no money. I ain't take no APEG money.
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Speaker 5: I ain't taking no developers money because I already know
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Speaker 5: I ain't take no no alligated Alcatraz developers money.
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Speaker 1: You know a lot of these people came to me,
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Speaker 1: I say, no, I mean we we all come from
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Speaker 1: the street.
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Speaker 5: If you if you take something, you know, from somebody,
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Speaker 5: then you got to pay them back, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I ain't. I ain't about to sell out of
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Speaker 1: our community.
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Speaker 5: And that's why everything saying about what I'm doing bringing
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Speaker 5: jobs instability to the district is built by us for us.
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Speaker 2: Explain that a little you mentioned it a little bit,
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Speaker 2: but for people that don't understand, they redrew the district
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Speaker 2: so she could actually.
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Speaker 3: Run in your area.
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Speaker 2: So explain that to people that have no idea what
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Speaker 2: that means, because she's not from your your area as
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Speaker 2: well from your district as well either.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So basically what happened with every jerry manner of the
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Speaker 5: map with all these red states. When they jerry manded
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Speaker 5: the map in Alabama, Tennessee, and Louisiana taking black representation away.
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Speaker 1: They did it in Florida with Ron DeSantis.
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Speaker 5: So he jerrymandered the map, took black representation, not necessarily,
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Speaker 5: he did not necessarily take black representation away. He merged
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Speaker 5: Dewid wasserman Shows district with.
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Speaker 1: With Jerry Moscow's district.
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Speaker 5: Right, and so she had she had a choice to
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Speaker 5: either run in our district or run against him, which
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Speaker 5: she should have for us. See all, she could have
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Speaker 5: ran in twenty two where Joe Biden won twenty two
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Speaker 5: by five percent Donald Trump wonted by ten percent, which
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Speaker 5: she could have flipped a seat, you know, to help
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Speaker 5: us win the House. But she did not elect to
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Speaker 5: do that. You know, she elected to run in this
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Speaker 5: crowded field of black of folks in Congresional District twenty
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Speaker 5: which is where I'm running at with fifty four percent
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Speaker 5: African Americans. The seat has been held by alste Hasten
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Speaker 5: and others for over thirty years. And uh and she's
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Speaker 5: you know, bringing her her her little.
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Speaker 1: Show over there.
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Speaker 3: Easy win to go against that, exactly exactly.
17:38
Speaker 5: And so and I always tell people this player has
17:40
Speaker 5: always this played it ran before it ran, when Steve
17:44
Speaker 5: Cohen did it in Memphis. And you see what happened
17:46
Speaker 5: to Memphis, you know. And uh, it's hard, you know,
17:50
Speaker 5: it just it sickens me, you know, to.
17:52
Speaker 1: Be honest with you. When I go to farms and talk,
17:54
Speaker 1: I mean I go hard. I don't even play with her.
17:56
Speaker 1: You know.
17:56
Speaker 5: If I go into an event and she's at the event,
17:59
Speaker 5: you know, I go home because you've never been in
18:01
Speaker 5: this community. You represented billionaires in your district, You represent
18:05
Speaker 5: a billionaires, so you're gonna come into.
18:07
Speaker 1: This district because it's a big.
18:09
Speaker 5: Feel of African Americans, and you figure that you need
18:13
Speaker 5: the white vote. But I tell her, I went in
18:16
Speaker 5: you know, white communities, and say, look this, the world
18:20
Speaker 5: is watching this election.
18:21
Speaker 1: If you vote the way that they think you're gonna.
18:23
Speaker 5: Vote, black men, and the alarm and Rader's leaving the
18:27
Speaker 5: Democratic Party for this simple reason. Right here, I said,
18:30
Speaker 5: I represent the culture, you know, and I'm trying to
18:33
Speaker 5: save the party by putting myself in this position to
18:37
Speaker 5: run for a seat that only paying one hundred and
18:39
Speaker 5: seventy thousand dollars, you know, which I can get on
18:41
Speaker 5: the weekend, a couple of weekends. But at the end
18:44
Speaker 5: of the day, you got to make the sacrifice. And so,
18:47
Speaker 5: you know, I just find it appalling that she does that.
18:50
Speaker 5: And I find it real syncing that the Black Congressional
18:53
Speaker 5: caucuss just sit there and did not denounce her and
18:56
Speaker 5: did not even did not uh support anybody in our race.
19:02
Speaker 5: You know, I find that very hypocritical. So it tells me, well,
19:06
Speaker 5: who really running the Democratic Party?
19:07
Speaker 2: Who else were you surprised, And I'm sure he was
19:09
Speaker 2: probably surprised with alones on morning, and you're surprised with.
19:12
Speaker 3: The call because who else were you surprised that that
19:14
Speaker 3: are not speaking out that should be.
19:15
Speaker 1: Especially haiking Jeffrey came.
19:18
Speaker 5: I'm very surprised that he's sitting there, ain't saying nothing.
19:21
Speaker 5: I'm surprised the young lady who runs the Democratic Party
19:24
Speaker 5: is sitting there not saying nothing, because again, think about it, is.
19:28
Speaker 4: Then Washington short back by Apex.
19:31
Speaker 5: Of course you know that bingo is you already know.
19:43
Speaker 1: But that's the play. That's the play.
19:45
Speaker 5: So do we really have black representation in the black
19:48
Speaker 5: caucus when this is the moment you're supposed to speak
19:52
Speaker 5: out on behalf of black representation because you went hard
19:55
Speaker 5: on the Republicans saying that the Jerseyman map and taking
19:58
Speaker 5: away black representation representation, but you're not going hard on
20:02
Speaker 5: a member of your own party, you know what I'm saying.
20:05
Speaker 5: And then here we got this black caucus whereas all
20:08
Speaker 5: black people.
20:09
Speaker 1: You know, and y'all just sitting there. I mean, what
20:12
Speaker 1: are we doing?
20:13
Speaker 5: So I look at it from the standpoint as you know,
20:16
Speaker 5: the world is watching but at the same time, you
20:19
Speaker 5: need to watch you a black representative in Congress to
20:21
Speaker 5: see if they really really are here for you.
20:24
Speaker 6: As alono morning, do you reach out after you called
20:27
Speaker 6: him out?
20:28
Speaker 10: No?
20:28
Speaker 5: I actually called him out a long time ago, many
20:31
Speaker 5: many years ago.
20:32
Speaker 4: I just saw a video like last week.
20:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, so in twenty and in twenty seventeen, when he
20:40
Speaker 5: built his old I C Center, which is great, which
20:44
Speaker 5: is a great center.
20:46
Speaker 1: The kids from over town, like my mom is.
20:49
Speaker 5: From over Town, and guy named Ben Hanks who run
20:52
Speaker 5: the program over there and the man you're watching.
20:55
Speaker 1: They called me up and they say, look, man, we
20:56
Speaker 1: can't get in the gym.
20:57
Speaker 5: Nasum a lot of money just built this pretty gym,
21:00
Speaker 5: names him, and they won't let us in. They won't
21:01
Speaker 5: let the kids of over town in the gym. They're
21:04
Speaker 5: bringing in these kids from everywhere else. So I'm like, oh,
21:07
Speaker 5: is this upfront? What the hell is going on? So,
21:10
Speaker 5: you know, we you know, I was doing columns in
21:12
Speaker 5: the moment in New Times at the time. Bro the
21:14
Speaker 5: column you know, try to reach out to him, never
21:16
Speaker 5: got him. And so at the end of the day
21:19
Speaker 5: I went and said, Okay, fuck it, let me fix
21:22
Speaker 5: the problem. You know, I went to Joe Ariola, you know,
21:25
Speaker 5: the city manager at the time, and say, Joe, this
21:27
Speaker 5: dude ain't letting these kids of Overtown in this building.
21:31
Speaker 5: He's right sitting on the property of Gifson Park. What
21:34
Speaker 5: can we do?
21:35
Speaker 1: You know?
21:35
Speaker 5: And I we identified twenty six million dollars to go
21:38
Speaker 5: and redo Gifson Parks. So we literally built the gymnasium
21:43
Speaker 5: right next to his gym nays on the same property,
21:46
Speaker 5: which makes.
21:46
Speaker 1: No sense, makes no sense, It makes no sense.
21:49
Speaker 5: So if you go and on your way to South
21:51
Speaker 5: Beach and you look down on the right hand side
21:54
Speaker 5: and you see this pretty park, you know, we went
21:57
Speaker 5: and got twenty six million dollars to redo that park,
22:00
Speaker 5: but you'll see a gymnasium sitting right next to him
22:03
Speaker 5: that we had to build, which don't make any sense,
22:06
Speaker 5: you know, right next to another one. So you know, again,
22:09
Speaker 5: those are the type of things that you know that
22:11
Speaker 5: I had a problem with at that time.
22:13
Speaker 1: You know, and I called him out on it. You know,
22:16
Speaker 1: we kind of squashed it.
22:17
Speaker 5: But when he jumped in this race, you know, I
22:20
Speaker 5: was like, come on, man, come on, brother, I mean,
22:22
Speaker 5: you know, you see me in this race. Everybody knows
22:25
Speaker 5: that I'm in this race, you know, and why would
22:27
Speaker 5: you do something like that? You know, and I already
22:29
Speaker 5: know it's for the developers, because this lady is coming
22:33
Speaker 5: in there to finish gentrifyed in the neighborhood and everybody
22:36
Speaker 5: else that's in the race.
22:37
Speaker 1: That's the old thing.
22:38
Speaker 4: Has anybody from the black caucas resef.
22:41
Speaker 5: The brow kind of black carawcers killed them, you know,
22:44
Speaker 5: like denounce her. You know Florida, you know, every black
22:48
Speaker 5: politician denounced it, but the black caucus no. I mean,
22:52
Speaker 5: they've had people who work with them, you know, call
22:55
Speaker 5: up and say, hey, man, we understand. You know, you're
22:57
Speaker 5: passion and understanding all this and everything, and you know
23:01
Speaker 5: we're just watching them.
23:02
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm not trying to hear that.
23:04
Speaker 5: You're gonna stand on business, stand on business, you know,
23:07
Speaker 5: stand for something, because this is the moment that you
23:10
Speaker 5: need to stand up and h and address this issue.
23:14
Speaker 6: And if you win, what's something you'll refuse to become
23:17
Speaker 6: because you know, Washington has a way of changing people.
23:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's funny that you you said you asked that
23:25
Speaker 5: we were doing a robo call and it was a
23:28
Speaker 5: lady that got on the phone.
23:29
Speaker 1: Site. You know, like y'all go in good, but then
23:33
Speaker 1: you come out bad. You know what I'm saying. I
23:35
Speaker 1: mean she was passionate. I'm like, oh my god, I'm
23:37
Speaker 1: like no. See that's the thing.
23:39
Speaker 5: The difference, the difference in our politicians are most of
23:43
Speaker 5: them are looking for a job, you know, to be
23:45
Speaker 5: honest with you, and that's why we're easy to be influenced.
23:48
Speaker 1: That's why you know, these special.
23:50
Speaker 5: Interest groups will go and identify individuals looking for a job,
23:53
Speaker 5: and then they prop them up, put a bunch of
23:55
Speaker 5: money in the campaign, buy a bunch of advertisements, and
23:58
Speaker 5: you end up getting the wrong guy.
23:59
Speaker 1: You know.
24:00
Speaker 5: So when I go in, my job is one thing
24:02
Speaker 5: is to bring money to my congressional district. I mean,
24:05
Speaker 5: I look at it's too many things that we can
24:08
Speaker 5: get done. I mean I can bring a I can
24:10
Speaker 5: bring a tax credit. Florida don't have a tax credit
24:12
Speaker 5: like Atlanta. And you just built you know, some beautiful
24:16
Speaker 5: studios here in Jersey.
24:18
Speaker 1: I could bring in a tax credit.
24:20
Speaker 5: I can bring it to two hundred and fifty million
24:22
Speaker 5: dollars and give a fifty percent tax credit.
24:25
Speaker 1: Bring studios down there.
24:26
Speaker 5: People have reached out to me and they saw that,
24:29
Speaker 5: you know, and uh again we all got a affordable
24:31
Speaker 5: housing shortage.
24:33
Speaker 1: You know.
24:34
Speaker 5: For my my plan is not My plan is to
24:36
Speaker 5: go find the individuals in the community and have them
24:40
Speaker 5: employ eight kids and adults in the community, so that
24:44
Speaker 5: brings resources back into the community, you know, other than
24:47
Speaker 5: going to get you know, Julio Ramundo, and Julio Ramundo
24:51
Speaker 5: is coming there building the buildings and the money is
24:53
Speaker 5: going back to him and his family, and they're leaving
24:55
Speaker 5: out of the district. So everything about my plan is
24:58
Speaker 5: about bringing resource what is back, but employing and helping people.
25:02
Speaker 7: What's your what's your thoughts on like when you're trying
25:04
Speaker 7: to bring those resources back, people who don't agree with
25:06
Speaker 7: the fact that you're so outspoken, even within your party,
25:09
Speaker 7: trying to block that. Like I saw you call out
25:11
Speaker 7: the Democrats for the ballot stuff, right, the mail in
25:13
Speaker 7: ballot stuff. People get upset about that, and if they
25:15
Speaker 7: got to help you, they won't. So how do you
25:17
Speaker 7: navigate that type of situation?
25:19
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's that's a part of you know, where
25:22
Speaker 1: we're at right now today.
25:23
Speaker 5: I mean I come from the hip hop culture, you know,
25:25
Speaker 5: I come from the culture, and in our culture. We
25:28
Speaker 5: call people out whether you like it or not. You know,
25:30
Speaker 5: we represent our people, you know. And so when I
25:34
Speaker 5: when you know, just like you say, people got all upset,
25:37
Speaker 5: and I say, I can't believe I'm agreeing with Donald
25:40
Speaker 5: Trump and him saying that mail in ballots are bad,
25:43
Speaker 5: and how they are doing the mail in balant So
25:45
Speaker 5: now here I am in this race and I'm watching
25:48
Speaker 5: how you know, these folks, these career politicians and a
25:51
Speaker 5: male race.
25:54
Speaker 1: Are operating.
25:55
Speaker 5: You know, you're doing you know, and I'm learning ballot harvesting.
25:59
Speaker 1: You know, it's like harvesting. What is ballot harvest ballad harvesting.
26:02
Speaker 5: Is is praying on old people at the senior citizen home,
26:07
Speaker 5: taking them to the dinner's, taking them to all year long,
26:10
Speaker 5: and taking them out.
26:12
Speaker 1: To the beach, into the bowling alley.
26:14
Speaker 5: And then the guy who's doing it, they trust in
26:17
Speaker 5: him and he fills out their ballot because they trust
26:21
Speaker 5: him because he's been grooming him for an entire year.
26:24
Speaker 5: And then you know, looking at this app like I
26:27
Speaker 5: can show you on my app, well, I know exactly
26:30
Speaker 5: who meld in their ballot. We get an update every
26:33
Speaker 5: hour on the hour, and it tells us who actually
26:36
Speaker 5: melt in their ballot and who has a melion ballot.
26:38
Speaker 1: So they'll look at the eighty five.
26:40
Speaker 5: Year old senior or the ninety three year old senor
26:44
Speaker 5: noticed that she didn't melt in her ballot, or at
26:47
Speaker 5: the beginning, knock on the door and say, you know,
26:50
Speaker 5: Ms Martha, you know I want to go and I'm
26:54
Speaker 5: gonna take your ballot for you, you know. And they're
26:57
Speaker 5: doing that, and it's this stuff is on ring camera.
26:59
Speaker 5: See they've been doing it forever, but we got ring
27:02
Speaker 5: camera now. So they're sending me ring cameras. Are people
27:07
Speaker 5: you know, with these candidates shirts on, acting these people
27:11
Speaker 5: before they ballot, which is crazy. And so you know
27:16
Speaker 5: when I mentioned Trump, soon as you invoked Trump and
27:18
Speaker 5: any kind of agreement with with him, people get worked up,
27:23
Speaker 5: you know. But you know, I was making the point
27:25
Speaker 5: that that is actually happening. That needs to stop, you know,
27:29
Speaker 5: and uh, yeah, so they're trying to rig the election.
27:32
Speaker 7: Another thing that happens is you got the other side
27:34
Speaker 7: will take that those comments and use it as you
27:37
Speaker 7: endorsing something that Donald Trump.
27:38
Speaker 8: That's like that's the way that.
27:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:41
Speaker 7: I was like what and I clicked and I was like, Oh,
27:43
Speaker 7: I get what he's trying to say. But the way
27:45
Speaker 7: politics is set up, it looks like Uncle Luca's with
27:48
Speaker 7: Trump on certain things now.
27:49
Speaker 1: Right right right? Yeah?
27:50
Speaker 5: They, I mean they and they do that, and that's
27:53
Speaker 5: what you know. I'm okay with living by my comments
27:57
Speaker 5: and my stance on it. And I always tell people
27:59
Speaker 5: just listen to their entire conversation. But at the at
28:02
Speaker 5: the end of the day, if ron the Santis is
28:04
Speaker 5: right on something, I'm gonna agree with it, you know
28:07
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
28:08
Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of the time he's wrong.
28:10
Speaker 5: If Trump is right on something in a situation, and
28:15
Speaker 5: I agree with it, but we need to just fix
28:18
Speaker 5: the problem.
28:18
Speaker 4: That's the only way to build trust. You build trust
28:20
Speaker 4: by just calling it like it is.
28:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
28:23
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm going I gotta tell people, I'm not
28:25
Speaker 5: going there to fight these people. I'm going there to
28:27
Speaker 5: get something done.
28:28
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
28:29
Speaker 5: If I make if I create Black Wall Street in
28:33
Speaker 5: my district, which is what my plan is all about,
28:35
Speaker 5: then we could do that in any of the.
28:37
Speaker 1: District, any other congression black congressional.
28:40
Speaker 5: District in the country, you know, and we have we
28:42
Speaker 5: have in this beautiful district, the opportunity to do that,
28:45
Speaker 5: and the resources from the federal government to do that,
28:48
Speaker 5: and so I'm not Look, they can call me purple
28:52
Speaker 5: all they want, you know, me and Marco Rubio, I
28:55
Speaker 5: know him.
28:56
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
28:56
Speaker 5: Every time I you know, sponsored trips with kids that
29:00
Speaker 5: and make donations. His son played football with every kid
29:04
Speaker 5: from the community I mean.
29:05
Speaker 1: Plays at the University of Florida right now. So we
29:08
Speaker 1: have a relationship with We are totally separated on politics.
29:12
Speaker 5: But when you're facing TPS and deportation right now, you know,
29:16
Speaker 5: and my district is full of Haitian immigrants who are
29:19
Speaker 5: owned the GPS. You know, I'm the only one that
29:22
Speaker 5: can get on the phone and have a conversation with
29:24
Speaker 5: this dude. You know what I'm saying, Hey, look, you
29:26
Speaker 5: know this is service industry here here. You gonna crash
29:30
Speaker 5: the service industry or you're gonna, you know, deport people
29:33
Speaker 5: who are out there in the fields, you know, you know,
29:36
Speaker 5: you know.
29:37
Speaker 1: Harvesting the fruit, not the ballast, but the fruit.
29:40
Speaker 5: And we're gonna be facing some economical crisis if you
29:43
Speaker 5: do these things, you know. So you know, it's a
29:46
Speaker 5: big difference. I mean, when your birth of fresh air,
29:49
Speaker 5: you going to Washington, you can go in there and
29:50
Speaker 5: get some things done. I'm only going there for four
29:54
Speaker 5: six years at the most. You know what I'm saying.
29:57
Speaker 5: You know, I'm in the fourth quarter of my life.
30:00
Speaker 5: Want to go in rest, relax. I'm just going there
30:02
Speaker 5: to fix some things. And then, uh, sixty five.
30:06
Speaker 4: Ain't in the fourth quarter. Man, that's the fourth quarter
30:09
Speaker 4: now half time. In ten years, you'll be.
30:11
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
30:15
Speaker 10: You know if you are living now like five times, you.
30:21
Speaker 1: Know, these dudes don't want to give.
30:35
Speaker 9: Wow and and ask him the year he was going
30:38
Speaker 9: to watch how he say it?
30:38
Speaker 4: He wanted to be hundred and seventy years.
30:48
Speaker 6: You don't want to ask lu because you you fought
30:50
Speaker 6: one of the biggest free speech battles in hip hop
30:53
Speaker 6: right well really American history. Honestly, in today's world of
30:57
Speaker 6: social media where you got cancel coachure and AI, what
30:59
Speaker 6: is free speech mean to you?
31:00
Speaker 4: Now? Has your definition change? Because I be thinking some
31:02
Speaker 4: people need to shut the fuck up.
31:04
Speaker 1: Some people do need to shut the fuck up.
31:06
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, hey, when I thought it was
31:09
Speaker 5: those social media thank god it wasn't those social media
31:12
Speaker 5: because all y'all boys, you know they didne went to
31:15
Speaker 5: some of my parties.
31:15
Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't tell you about it. Another show.
31:23
Speaker 1: That's another show, front and center. I mean, free speech.
31:29
Speaker 5: Just like you say, yes, some people need some people
31:33
Speaker 5: need to shut the fuck up.
31:34
Speaker 1: But I defended.
31:36
Speaker 5: I mean, so you know everybody nowadays, you know, everybody
31:39
Speaker 5: got a platform. They turned on the social media, they
31:41
Speaker 5: got a platform, and they just running them out talking
31:44
Speaker 5: about a lot of things and and and a lot
31:47
Speaker 5: of things that a lot of people talk about, you know,
31:49
Speaker 5: getting a lot of people killed.
31:51
Speaker 1: You know.
31:52
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, you know, young people are leaving here because of
31:55
Speaker 5: some of the things that are being said on social media.
31:57
Speaker 1: So you know, I agree, I agree.
32:00
Speaker 5: I mean, fighting for free speech, going all the way
32:03
Speaker 5: to the Supreme Court and winning. I mean, what people
32:05
Speaker 5: don't realize, what people don't realize is that case was
32:09
Speaker 5: about parody. Parody was protected by the First Amendment, and
32:12
Speaker 5: it was much more of a case for comedies, for comedy,
32:18
Speaker 5: for comics. You know, Michael Jackson wrote, uh, Phil sent
32:24
Speaker 5: a brief in against me. Dollar partner sent brief against me.
32:28
Speaker 5: Saturday Night Live sent a brief in for me. And
32:32
Speaker 5: so that's what. Yeah, yeah, he fired a brief against us. Yeah,
32:37
Speaker 5: because he didn't think he didn't think people should do parody. Yeah,
32:45
Speaker 5: so he had a problem with that, and so they
32:46
Speaker 5: fired briefs against me to lose my case.
32:49
Speaker 1: Uh.
32:50
Speaker 5: And then Saturday Night Live because they do all the
32:52
Speaker 5: you know, satire, so you know, comedians benefit from that.
32:57
Speaker 5: But then the most important one was, uh, that's is
33:00
Speaker 5: it want to be? You know, that's want to be
33:03
Speaker 5: was the I've seen. And so I had to go
33:06
Speaker 5: back in and get that reverse, that ruling reverse.
33:09
Speaker 1: If I didn't get the ruling reverse, then it would
33:12
Speaker 1: be almost like the Man Act. Damn still on the books,
33:17
Speaker 1: you feel me.
33:18
Speaker 5: And if it's still on the books, then any rapper
33:21
Speaker 5: right now, are any artists that are singing records with
33:25
Speaker 5: oh Judio o'brown and this and that and shaking the
33:29
Speaker 5: ass on stage and doing all the things that I
33:32
Speaker 5: went to jail for, they wouldn't they would be able
33:34
Speaker 5: to use that case law to then take those records
33:37
Speaker 5: off the shelf put those artists in jail. And people
33:40
Speaker 5: don't realize that. And that's why when I when I
33:43
Speaker 5: went on this run, I was I was like Okay, ship,
33:45
Speaker 5: I know all these artists you know who I paid
33:47
Speaker 5: the wait for the dump some money in this campaign
33:50
Speaker 5: because now we taking on a whole nother fight.
33:53
Speaker 1: And then it's like, no.
33:55
Speaker 8: They scared that it'll come out publicly because I.
33:58
Speaker 6: Don't think if you haven't read oncle Luke's book, they
34:01
Speaker 6: don't know their history.
34:02
Speaker 4: You don't.
34:04
Speaker 3: That's why I don't know.
34:07
Speaker 8: The older artists though there, because it's not just young
34:10
Speaker 8: like that.
34:11
Speaker 6: I think they know what they don't know. To the
34:13
Speaker 6: extent what you just said just now makes so much sense.
34:17
Speaker 6: And even though I knew it, I never thought about
34:19
Speaker 6: it like that. I could have still been on the book.
34:22
Speaker 4: Could could have in jail.
34:24
Speaker 1: Right.
34:26
Speaker 8: Yeah, all these records running for the summer.
34:30
Speaker 5: Lady cop, every every explicit record could have you know,
34:34
Speaker 5: because the president would have been.
34:35
Speaker 1: Set in the federal court.
34:36
Speaker 5: And I actually when when they when they deemed the
34:40
Speaker 5: record I've seen I went right down the street and
34:42
Speaker 5: did a show.
34:43
Speaker 1: I was like this, I'm gonna go right down the
34:44
Speaker 1: street and do a show.
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Speaker 5: And the crazy part about all of it, everything happening
34:49
Speaker 5: in this district that I'm running from, you know, even
34:51
Speaker 5: though I lived in Miami, and so I really never
34:54
Speaker 5: repaid the people of Broad County for acquitting me on
34:59
Speaker 5: all those cases and creating, you know, those juries of
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Speaker 5: my peers, and so that people don't realize they automatically
35:06
Speaker 5: look at the Supreme Court case and thinking that was
35:09
Speaker 5: the hip hop case. No, the hip hop case was nastiest,
35:11
Speaker 5: want to be was deemed up scene. And and if
35:14
Speaker 5: I don't go get that ship turned over overturned on
35:18
Speaker 5: a on appeal, then we're in deep trouble as to
35:21
Speaker 5: where we're at right now.
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Speaker 2: Do you ever spoke to Michael Jackson's people about that
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Speaker 2: when he sent that in or no?
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Speaker 5: It is no, No, I mean you got you gotta
35:28
Speaker 5: realized at that time I was getting sued by well,
35:31
Speaker 5: he didn't sue me. I got sued by damn George
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Speaker 5: Lucas cause you know my nickname as the DJ.
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Speaker 1: Was Louke Skywars. Wow. Yeah, did you have sue by him?
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Speaker 3: Did you always knew you were gonna win?
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Speaker 2: Or you had you thought you were gonna lose during
35:43
Speaker 2: that time when you was fighting like crazy, you.
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Speaker 3: Knew you were gonna win it? Were you nervous because
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Speaker 3: you were fighting everybody?
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Speaker 1: I was fighting there. I mean, it was, it was.
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Speaker 5: It was a fight on all different fronts. I mean
35:54
Speaker 5: because back then, back then you did not you know,
35:59
Speaker 5: we weren't clean samples. There was no such thing. It
36:02
Speaker 5: wasn't nobody. So I got sample clearance people coming after me.
36:05
Speaker 5: I got you know, Roy Orbison coming after me. And
36:07
Speaker 5: then I got this.
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Speaker 1: Chef Navarro in the district running he coming after me.
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Speaker 5: I got the Governor, I got Dann Quaid, I got
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Speaker 5: see the Lord's Tucker, I got ship, you got everybody
36:18
Speaker 5: had everybody.
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Speaker 1: In the world.
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Speaker 5: So I'm I'm sitting there like you know, I'm a
36:22
Speaker 5: I'm a little young dude from from you know, Liberty City,
36:26
Speaker 5: you know, two bedroom houses and came from nothing.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: I'm just laughing, you know, because my path was either
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Speaker 5: jail or you know, jail in the graveyard, you know,
36:38
Speaker 5: And so I'm laughing at all this.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, I figured I
36:42
Speaker 1: would win.
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Speaker 5: I figured I would win because you know, when they
36:46
Speaker 5: do a mill test day, you know, in those cases,
36:48
Speaker 5: just a test of what's.
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Speaker 1: Acceptable in the in the community.
36:52
Speaker 5: And okay, you got Playboy Channel, you got Playboy, you
36:55
Speaker 5: got bookstores, you got strip clubs, and so that's what
36:58
Speaker 5: the community standards are.
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Speaker 1: So I knew I was gonna win that. How millions
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Speaker 1: of dollars? Millions?
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Speaker 3: Did you get any of it? Could you sue to
37:06
Speaker 3: get any of it back back then?
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Speaker 4: Or you didn't?
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Speaker 5: No, no millions of dollars? I mean it was crazy.
37:11
Speaker 5: But but that was the first album. Yeah, yeah, it
37:15
Speaker 5: for me, it was it was about what's going on
37:18
Speaker 5: right now today. I looked at it. I looked at
37:20
Speaker 5: it because my dad and my uncle, you know, Jamaican
37:23
Speaker 5: dad and my and my Bahama and uncle.
37:26
Speaker 1: You know, they taught me about history, you know.
37:28
Speaker 5: So I was the perfect storm, you know, because I
37:31
Speaker 5: couldn't look at cartoons. It made me look at you know,
37:34
Speaker 5: uh h Rap Brown. He knew they you know, the struggle.
37:38
Speaker 5: And they always told me, say, man, when you get
37:39
Speaker 5: our age, y'all gonna have invincible change on y'all you're
37:43
Speaker 5: gonna think you free, but you're not. So you need
37:45
Speaker 5: to understand black history and how it works. And so
37:48
Speaker 5: when they came after me, I knew, you know, here
37:51
Speaker 5: I am, you know, uh, Dice Clay and everybody and
37:55
Speaker 5: Millie Jackson and you name it red Fox. Everybody did
37:58
Speaker 5: everything that I did on the record, you know, But
38:01
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I'm I'm own I
38:03
Speaker 5: own my own company, you know, and I'm not affiliated
38:06
Speaker 5: with none of these giants, and I'm making all the money,
38:10
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, I'm manufacturing, distributing, and so
38:13
Speaker 5: I became an easy target.
38:15
Speaker 1: But plus you add on the.
38:17
Speaker 5: Politics of it all with with those politicians and saying,
38:21
Speaker 5: little man, I want to take this dude down.
38:23
Speaker 1: You know, for the sake of recon seals to It
38:26
Speaker 1: was coming from everywhere. It was coming from you.
38:29
Speaker 4: Mentioned one name, nor that I do.
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Speaker 6: The older I get, I'd be like, man, you know
38:33
Speaker 6: what she was right when you really see the Lord
38:35
Speaker 6: s Tuckle was right on a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you are. I mean, you got it.
38:39
Speaker 4: She was.
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Speaker 6: I mean when she she she was talking about, uh,
38:42
Speaker 6: you know, the exploitation, the corporate exploitation. You have black
38:46
Speaker 6: culture and the normalization of anti social behavior.
38:50
Speaker 4: So that's why she was against.
38:51
Speaker 6: The hyper violent lyrics and and the gangster rapping, the
38:55
Speaker 6: the she used to call it a cultural pornography. You know,
38:59
Speaker 6: the men used to talk about the women. But she
39:01
Speaker 6: was just basically saying that corporate America was taking advantage
39:03
Speaker 6: of the degradation of black people.
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Speaker 4: She was right, I can't lie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:09
Speaker 5: I mean I have to agree, you know, I have
39:14
Speaker 5: I have to agree when it comes to you know,
39:18
Speaker 5: corporate America, even right now today.
39:21
Speaker 1: You know, you know I was, I was being responsible.
39:26
Speaker 5: You know when when I did create the Perennial Advisory Sticker,
39:31
Speaker 5: and we were all of our stuff came from comedy.
39:35
Speaker 5: You know, when you look listen to our early albums,
39:39
Speaker 5: you know, we were just having fun, dudes. You know,
39:41
Speaker 5: we were just taking the Leroy Skilling and Dolomite and
39:44
Speaker 5: putting these those underground comedians and aunt Esther and Red
39:51
Speaker 5: Fox on our records. But then once they told me, hey,
39:54
Speaker 5: look kids are getting this. You know, that's when I
39:57
Speaker 5: created the Perennal Advisory Sticker. And then I created the
39:59
Speaker 5: whole thing of you know, okay, you know, use the
40:03
Speaker 5: same scenario.
40:03
Speaker 1: As the movie.
40:04
Speaker 5: Theaters used the same scenario buying cigarettes. You know, we
40:08
Speaker 5: created the two versions of the record. Uh so it
40:11
Speaker 5: was for adults responsible for responsible adults.
40:15
Speaker 1: But yes, she she, she, she did make a lot
40:18
Speaker 1: of sense on a lot.
40:19
Speaker 6: Of things, and that when she talked about the three
40:21
Speaker 6: P Flag where she was like the corporate Americas leading
40:24
Speaker 6: people to or I had written that prison pipeline, the
40:28
Speaker 6: person the three P plag prison parole in probation. She
40:31
Speaker 6: said that the lyrics promoted a genocide of war against
40:34
Speaker 6: young black men, accelerating what she called three P flag,
40:38
Speaker 6: prison parole and probation.
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Speaker 1: Yes, she was. She was. I never spoke to her.
40:43
Speaker 1: I never spoke to her.
40:44
Speaker 5: It was one time I think we were supposed to
40:46
Speaker 5: do a panel together and then.
40:49
Speaker 1: Some reason I didn't make it to that one.
40:52
Speaker 5: But I mean, yeah, she was. She was way ahead
40:56
Speaker 5: of her time on a lot of things. I just
40:58
Speaker 5: wish we probably could just sat down, you know, me
41:02
Speaker 5: and her, because again you got to understand, we would
41:04
Speaker 5: put on a we all would put on on this
41:07
Speaker 5: typical list, you know, this black list. You know, her
41:11
Speaker 5: husband being a senator, you know, and they're going after
41:14
Speaker 5: me ice tea, n w A, and we're all were
41:18
Speaker 5: just getting this from everywhere to the point that we
41:21
Speaker 5: didn't know who was pushing the narrative.
41:24
Speaker 1: Whether you was really you know, whether it was really you.
41:29
Speaker 5: Are it wasn't corporate America, and these politicians, because we
41:33
Speaker 5: know these politicians have a tendency of of you know,
41:36
Speaker 5: spending money where they're trying to make these points.
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Speaker 4: That's right elements.
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Speaker 6: And that's why I said, the older I get the realized, Oh,
41:43
Speaker 6: she wasn't fighting against black people and young black men.
41:46
Speaker 6: She was fighting against the corporations like she even she
41:49
Speaker 6: bought stock and a bunch of these conglomerates like Toime
41:52
Speaker 6: Warner and Sony just so she go to the shareholder
41:55
Speaker 6: meetings to confront the executives for profit and off the degradation.
41:58
Speaker 4: Of black people.
41:59
Speaker 1: Wow, and I didn't know that.
42:02
Speaker 4: I got him like, oh see, the Lord Tuckle was
42:05
Speaker 4: ahead her time.
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Speaker 1: She was actually right, Yeah, because we painted her. We
42:10
Speaker 1: painted a picture of her.
42:11
Speaker 5: As the villain, like you know number one, you know
42:14
Speaker 5: her and you know typical and all these different people there.
42:17
Speaker 5: You know, it was coming from everywhere, so we you know,
42:20
Speaker 5: like I said, at the time, you didn't know you
42:22
Speaker 5: know what what what was funding these forces?
42:25
Speaker 6: I asked Snoop about that, and Snoops, So yeah, she
42:27
Speaker 6: was right. He just didn't like her approach. She was
42:29
Speaker 6: like he said. Maxine Waters used to say the same
42:32
Speaker 6: thing to y'all.
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Speaker 4: Her approach was different.
42:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Fredrick Wilson, same thing, totally different.
42:38
Speaker 1: I mean, her approach was totally different.
42:40
Speaker 5: And then at at one point, you know, she was
42:44
Speaker 5: you know, she was she was a school board member.
42:46
Speaker 5: She was like banning all of the girls dancing to
42:49
Speaker 5: the songs and everything.
42:51
Speaker 1: Uh. But then again, you know.
42:53
Speaker 5: Once she started realizing what was the part of the culture,
42:57
Speaker 5: then she started embracing people like you know, Trick Daddy,
43:00
Speaker 5: and we had conversations and had understandings of what was
43:06
Speaker 5: going on in the community. And so, you know, yes,
43:09
Speaker 5: it was when you take that harsh approach when we
43:11
Speaker 5: already getting you know, we're getting heat from everybody else.
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Speaker 1: You know, at that time, it was you name it.
43:17
Speaker 1: They were after.
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Speaker 3: Us, Uncle Luke Man. Make sure you go out and
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Speaker 3: support them.
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Speaker 2: Tell them how they can support hey dollar five dollars,
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Speaker 2: ten dollars, twenty dollars or high.
43:25
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean all high. Yeah, I mean that.
43:28
Speaker 5: You know, it's important to go to the website ww
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Speaker 5: dot Luther Campbell for Congress dot com. Just come be
43:33
Speaker 5: a volunteer, you know, come knock on some doors and
43:36
Speaker 5: work at the pole, you know, at the poles crazy.
43:44
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: She was like, that's a bout of quod, because how
43:52
Speaker 11: do you convince her grandmother, right, who remembers Uncle Luke
43:55
Speaker 11: from the nineties, that you're the right person to represent
43:57
Speaker 11: them in Washington.
43:58
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, it's funny, right, because I go
44:01
Speaker 5: to these farms and I go to these churches, right,
44:03
Speaker 5: and the grandma again I'm sixty five, right, and the
44:08
Speaker 5: grandma it's like.
44:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to your club Strawberries. You know what
44:12
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I went to your club Lukes Byman Beach.
44:14
Speaker 5: And then if you ever know, like Grandma, you know,
44:17
Speaker 5: you know exactly exactly.
44:23
Speaker 1: So I mean it is very interesting.
44:25
Speaker 5: Most other people from South Florida, they grew up with me,
44:28
Speaker 5: you know, because at the end of the day, I
44:30
Speaker 5: started out as a DJ with two speakers, and then
44:32
Speaker 5: I went from two speakers to sixteen speakers, and before
44:35
Speaker 5: you know it, I'm one of the first guys to
44:38
Speaker 5: bring hip hop to Miami. And so they grew up
44:41
Speaker 5: with me. So it's like nothing you could tell those
44:43
Speaker 5: people down there how bad I am, because they was
44:48
Speaker 5: with me every step of the way, and even when
44:50
Speaker 5: the government came after me, I was like, no, we
44:53
Speaker 5: know him. You know he used the DJ ad the
44:55
Speaker 5: baby Shower and DJ and the park.
44:57
Speaker 1: And all these different things.
44:58
Speaker 5: And we know where he came from, bro And so
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Speaker 5: I don't really have that problem, you know, I.
45:02
Speaker 1: Thought I would, but I don't. A lot of great
45:05
Speaker 1: history from people.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Luther, Luther Campbell. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
45:12
Speaker 3: hold up every
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Speaker 6: Day a wake ago, click your ass up, The Breakfast
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Speaker 6: Club Finishing, y'all done,