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Club 520 - DeMar DeRozan on Kobe Bryant relationship, losing to LeBron, getting traded for Kawhi · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The volume A right, we back at the episode of
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  Speaker 1: Club five twenty podcasts. I'm the house, Miami is DJ
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  Speaker 1: well special guests in the building. To my left, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna introduce my Man's last But to my far left
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  Speaker 1: we got my dog. BI should be hearing out the prailes.
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  Speaker 1: How you were nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to
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  Speaker 1: it another one.
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  Speaker 2: I already know it's about to be episode. My boy
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  Speaker 2: got the.
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  Speaker 3: Tower long getting a little hot liquor, a little.
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  Speaker 1: Spotsy, and my little you got the all white song.
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  Speaker 1: I know you watched the show. My Man's normally keep
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  Speaker 1: the all black forces with the white lacens. Y'all rocked
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  Speaker 1: them out in Cali. Man with the white lace, All
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  Speaker 1: black with the white lace. Nasty, I'm gonna take care
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  Speaker 1: of you, bro, all.
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  Speaker 2: Black forces and white saying you just.
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  Speaker 3: Had a good game too at the worst name, I
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  Speaker 3: should have sent him then for the Drew, for the Drew.
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  Speaker 3: That's wow, you got on the perfect outfit. That's one
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  Speaker 3: of my typical outfits.
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  Speaker 2: Stinking right there. That's the beautiful I got.
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  Speaker 3: You know what them fourteen thirteen thirteen. That's easy, that's like,
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  Speaker 3: that's on the way all the way. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: Addy after this period for sure. To about right, my
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  Speaker 3: dog young not your young team.
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  Speaker 4: How you are, man, I'm chilling, bro, I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 4: We got an old non draftee in here. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we got draft at the same time. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how he's still playing, but don't worry about it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: so proud of it though. Man, we go way back.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm geek to have be a part of this
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  Speaker 4: episode for show.
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  Speaker 1: For Shure Man legend in the building, one of the
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  Speaker 1: coaches to touch a basketball professional score, six time All Star,
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  Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer. We got the man to Martin
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  Speaker 1: Rossan in the building. Appreciate you sliding on this big
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  Speaker 1: dog Man, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie.
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  Speaker 5: I've been You're my partner, and tell you, like all
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  Speaker 5: the homies be like, man, you gotta go, you gotta
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  Speaker 5: go on the show. You gotta go on the show,
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  Speaker 5: you know. So I'm hyped to be on here. Man
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  Speaker 5: to me, I call this like the hoops drink chance,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Always check it out.
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  Speaker 5: We always be laughing, sending sending everything to the group chat.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm na have to be on it for show.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, man, glad I have you man crazy order story
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  Speaker 1: and might put it in the chat. We got to
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  Speaker 1: start therapy here with the with the with the with
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  Speaker 1: the bag man.
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  Speaker 3: When p Miller founding, when person found he put you
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  Speaker 3: right on the TV show right away. Bro, How was
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  Speaker 3: that though?
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  Speaker 2: Bro?
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  Speaker 3: How did that even come about?
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  Speaker 2: Man? Bro?
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  Speaker 3: It was?
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  Speaker 5: It was the most random moment ever because at the
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  Speaker 5: time I was playing on AU team, so everybody who
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  Speaker 5: with the P Miller Ballers, we was on another A
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  Speaker 5: team before that, and that was like our last year.
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  Speaker 5: I think we had just one like Nationals and was
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  Speaker 5: breaking up sponsorship and everything. So we was we was
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  Speaker 5: all just trying to figure out what we was going
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  Speaker 5: to do next. Then all of a sudden, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we got word like Master p wanted to have an
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  Speaker 5: AU team. You know, He's gonna have tryouts at at
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  Speaker 5: this high school show up. So in my mind I'm thinking, like,
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  Speaker 5: all right, this is just his team. He not actually
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  Speaker 5: gonna be there, you know what I mean. So we
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  Speaker 5: all show up to the high school pee walking. Then
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  Speaker 5: Romeo walk in with him, like all right, we got
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  Speaker 5: practiced three man weave, four man we five man weave,
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  Speaker 5: and we hoop, so we're doing that. So we just
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  Speaker 5: thinking it's gonna be a moment just that. So he
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  Speaker 5: was like, you know, all right, same time next week.
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  Speaker 5: So it became a consistent thing like oh damn, we
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  Speaker 5: about to were about to play for p oh shit,
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  Speaker 5: he coaching too, Like you know, we were about to
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  Speaker 5: rock out and all of a sudden before we start playing.
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  Speaker 5: He always used to invite us to the house. So
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  Speaker 5: we used to go to his house practice in the backyard,
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  Speaker 5: lifting weights at his house.
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  Speaker 2: In the gym.
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  Speaker 5: Just crazy shit that damn nobody, especially for me at
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  Speaker 5: the time, like I'm fourteen, coming from like Compton. Were
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  Speaker 5: going to the house. He got a tennis court, pool,
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  Speaker 5: wait room, got everything you need. Then at the same
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  Speaker 5: time we watching him record make albums at the time,
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  Speaker 5: rome doing the Romeo Show, So it was like it
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  Speaker 5: was a trip at that time, knowing like we about
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  Speaker 5: to play for this team and he about to be
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  Speaker 5: a coach. Was any other top Dogs on your team
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  Speaker 5: with you? Yeah, Brandon was on that team. We had
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  Speaker 5: a we had a kid named Yeah on that Okay,
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  Speaker 5: we had remember baby Shack, he played on our on
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  Speaker 5: our team, so we had a lot of talent. We
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  Speaker 5: had a lot of guys and you know, we we
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  Speaker 5: we just rocked out after that.
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  Speaker 3: That's hard, b I had a That ship was funny
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  Speaker 3: as fun It was a trip bro trusted. We had
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  Speaker 3: our own bus going to.
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  Speaker 5: Games like we was like we was like on some
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  Speaker 5: like A and one type ship.
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  Speaker 2: No fact, were pulling up the whole gym wade like
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was in the spotlight early, which is.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy because I met him at a B C D camp.
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  Speaker 4: He probably don't remember. I was just a young star, buddy,
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  Speaker 4: and don't even worry about it. I was just trying
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  Speaker 4: to make my way. I had no scholarship offer, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to do anything I could do to get
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  Speaker 4: a scholarship. Me and him are on the same team
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  Speaker 4: at ABCD, can't. I'm gunning. I'm going to be a senior.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to get some offers here. You're younger. I'm
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  Speaker 4: having a moment. I'm playing good, shining, doing my thing.
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  Speaker 4: I get a couple offers after the first day, like well,
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  Speaker 4: I got like forty but whatever, so I'm having a
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  Speaker 4: good day. The next day, he tapped me on the shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: It's master p I'm thinking he about to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you nice, so you know. I'm like, he like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: my man, that kid right there can play. Give him
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  Speaker 4: a chance, play with him. He tell me a play
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  Speaker 4: to do, like drive to the middle, throw it up.
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  Speaker 4: He gonna go get it. I swear to god I
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  Speaker 4: did that. I threw it up when we dunked it,
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  Speaker 4: I ain't get the ball no more.
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  Speaker 1: Every I swear everything. I love Bro every play for Bro. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: he was killing I'm like, damn, who is this dude?
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  Speaker 1: And they like he played for Pete Miller. I'm like, Damn,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know nothing. I'm like, but they'll be cool
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  Speaker 1: with master P like saying ice cream.
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  Speaker 4: Look, but that's what I knew. I seen him right there.
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  Speaker 4: And then the scene when we get drafted, I'm like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's different.
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  Speaker 3: Did you play the Pete Millers?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I played him. You know. It's crazy fight up now.
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  Speaker 5: It was the time I was playing in him so much, right,
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  Speaker 5: And I don't think I ever talked about this. Romeo
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  Speaker 5: was trying to go to high school with me at
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  Speaker 5: Countin High right, we were.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to I've never told this story. Bro.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad it's here.
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  Speaker 2: So wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Ron was trying to figure out how to go to
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  Speaker 5: school with me at Counton High. So we ended up saying,
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  Speaker 5: like we're going to get the whole team Pete Miller's.
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  Speaker 5: We made them all blue. Everybody had blue p Miller.
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  Speaker 5: So rome was like, you know, really trying to figure
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  Speaker 5: out how you can go to Contain High.
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  Speaker 2: So we meet him with the school.
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  Speaker 5: They was like, man, he'd just show off the games,
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  Speaker 5: he get the work once a week, do the work
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  Speaker 5: all that. So we end up having like a practice,
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  Speaker 5: like he came to my high school, had a practice.
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking about every gang member outside of the gym.
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  Speaker 5: Everything we go hoop. As soon as we come out
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  Speaker 5: the gym, the principal was like, yeah, he's not gonna
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  Speaker 5: be able to come here. It was like he was
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  Speaker 5: really trying to go to high school with me, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like we was really like about
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  Speaker 5: to sponsor this school to wear Pete Miller's and everything,
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  Speaker 5: but it ended up not working out and everything. But
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  Speaker 5: that was a crazy It was a crazy time because
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  Speaker 5: especially at that time, like you're talking about little Romeo
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  Speaker 5: going to Conte Hide that shu don't even sound right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah too much, Yeah, doing the beach somewhere. She really
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  Speaker 3: liked that though.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah he could hoop, he can hoop for like, he
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  Speaker 5: definitely you know, cal hoop, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he definitely surprised if it was something you stick with,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you know, it all come down the size
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: His little brother nice though. Yeah, he don't want. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't want.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mercy, Mercy, he gonna be the one to He
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  Speaker 5: going to Houston next year, but he definitely gonna be
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  Speaker 5: the one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And what's so crazy is people forget like he made
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  Speaker 1: it to the crazy but he used to hoop. What
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  Speaker 1: it's every day Like he will come in who play
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  Speaker 1: for real? Damn they're about to fight you everything Like
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  Speaker 1: he playing like bully ball, shooting threes like he used
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  Speaker 1: to hoo with us all the time.
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  Speaker 3: That's t bro, that's fire. It's the cold moment that
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  Speaker 3: you got to brace early, bro, like the pick they got, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they got to do rags and that's a fire album
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  Speaker 3: cover look like, but that was that was at a
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  Speaker 3: video shoot, bro, that's even harder.
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  Speaker 5: Look, no bull ship, I used to miss school to
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  Speaker 5: go to a video shoots. Whoever had a video if
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  Speaker 5: he had a video rum. I would miss school, be
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  Speaker 5: at the video shoot all day.
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  Speaker 1: Because we heard you. It's just a side bar. We
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  Speaker 1: heard you rap today they ain't play that.
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  Speaker 2: Ship said you definitely got bars, So it might have
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  Speaker 2: started from there.
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  Speaker 1: So for sure, Man, But like crazy basketball origin man
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  Speaker 1: going crazy in high school?
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  Speaker 5: Was it a no brainer you was going to USC Man? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: because I didn't want to leave home. It's crazy. I
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  Speaker 5: took a visit. I took a couple of visits with
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  Speaker 5: the North Carolina, Florida State cal somewhere else. I took
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  Speaker 5: like unofficials. But when I went to Florida State at
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  Speaker 5: the time, that's when all the hurricanes and ship was
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  Speaker 5: going on. So I'm out there, I'm like, Man, ain't
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  Speaker 5: no way in hell I'm leaving home.
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  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean, If this ship happened, I'm terrified.
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  Speaker 5: So once once I've seen that happen, I was like, man,
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  Speaker 5: I'm staying home regardless. Then I started looking at it
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  Speaker 5: on some real ship. I started looking at it like, man,
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  Speaker 5: if I go to the NBA, it's a good chance
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to play home. So let me get
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  Speaker 5: let me enjoy playing home one last time and ship
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  Speaker 5: I do that and get my ascent to Canada, like
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like I didn't think I'd
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  Speaker 5: go that far, but you know what I mean. But
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to stay home for the most part, just
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  Speaker 5: for the simple factor, like I wanted to be home
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  Speaker 5: one last time for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you went to USA. It was crazy. You
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  Speaker 1: almost went to USA. I never the year before, but.
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  Speaker 4: Oj Mayo went and when I went on my visit,
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  Speaker 4: OJ happened to be there. They forgot I was on
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  Speaker 4: the visit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know how that goes.
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  Speaker 4: It was just like, oh, yeah, you come on, we
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  Speaker 4: get you too. My pop was like, yeah, that ain't
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  Speaker 4: the place for you, but nah, it was fun. I
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  Speaker 4: ain't gonna lie. Keep it a real. It's a beautiful
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  Speaker 4: scener some nice US season. It's a nice campus, man,
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  Speaker 4: they have it set up for you.
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  Speaker 2: And you went.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, But I wasn't tripping on nothing because I was home,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, I didn't even trip
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  Speaker 5: on whatever it was you could show me, because at
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  Speaker 5: the end of the day, I was home. I was
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  Speaker 5: in my comfort already, so I wasn't even tripping on
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  Speaker 5: what you could show me. I'm looking at it like,
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  Speaker 5: let me do this six seven months and I'm going anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you alread had to project it in your mind.
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  Speaker 2: I was out. I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was going, that's hard, yeah, respectful, like the number
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  Speaker 3: three player in the country.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 3: He was on that list.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was going, what was you battling with in high school?
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  Speaker 4: Because I was a year older, so I'm not even sure.
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  Speaker 5: So our class was crazy because we had Tyreekrek was
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  Speaker 5: was the man, Brandon was the man, Drew Holiday was
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  Speaker 5: a man. So we had a solid class of like
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  Speaker 5: from that wing position of dudes that was dogs, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So it's three that's in Cali right there there there.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean. So just in our state
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  Speaker 5: a loan like it was, it was, it was. It
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: was a lot going on just from that competitive standpoint.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, we had we had plenty other dudes
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  Speaker 5: like Scottie Hopson.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we had We had a lot
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  Speaker 4: of dudes man that that that had a chance that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, either injuries or whatever it may be. But
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  Speaker 5: at the time high school it was, it was it
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  Speaker 5: was a dog fight. Yeah, I thought Scotty was going
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  Speaker 5: to the me too, me too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh dangn And for us, we always big up in
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  Speaker 1: the end, especially Naptown hoops because we had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of cuz the time. But like we look at it now,
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  Speaker 1: you talk about them areas, y'all. Y'all had the real
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  Speaker 1: ones that O six, O seven eight class nothing but
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  Speaker 1: all pros.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, think about the year before it was James Harden.
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  Speaker 5: It was like Russell Russ like we had like some
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  Speaker 5: some some dogs. We had a couple of years where
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: it was like it was it was you look at it,
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  Speaker 5: It's come on, you can't deny it. Like out of California,
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  Speaker 5: even just southern California at the time, it was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever come across them though? Like in high school?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, against I played against Drew. I've been playing against
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  Speaker 5: Drew ever since I was eleven twelve years old. He
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: was the first. He was the first person I ever
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: played with. How I learned the word Amberdextrius, I learned
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: it from Drew Holliday. Okay, somebody was like man. He
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  Speaker 5: he used both hands like how he played now is
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: how he played when he when he.
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  Speaker 2: Was eleven years old.
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  Speaker 5: Dang yill, smart, crafty, defensive, like defensively all over the floor.
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  Speaker 2: He was the same exact way.
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  Speaker 3: He cold the cold.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like all those guys played against him since
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  Speaker 5: we was eleven twelve years old. For sure, man Clay
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  Speaker 5: Clay play was my high school class. Oh a, so
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  Speaker 5: you know we had a we had a we have
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  Speaker 5: some dogs facts for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Digital thing one year in usc How was it playing
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  Speaker 1: in college? I mean, you know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 1: know it's a little bit of a different place, especially
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  Speaker 1: from high school and that you how was that playing
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  Speaker 1: in college?
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  Speaker 2: And how was it playing at the crib in college?
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  Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie. My first two months in college
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  Speaker 5: I struggled because it was like, you know, you go
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  Speaker 5: from being a star, being able to do whatever you want,
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  Speaker 5: however you want, whenever you want to where it's like
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  Speaker 5: now you gotta you gotta learn the structure of a
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: discipline from another level of you know, coach telling you to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, run the offense for twenty five seconds before
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  Speaker 5: somebody shoot, you know what I mean. Like, So it
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  Speaker 5: was a struggle in my first two months. But after that,
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  Speaker 5: once I got it and started clicking. For me, it
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  Speaker 5: was it was. It was simple, it was easy, start killing.
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  Speaker 5: It was cool, just out of family there, you know, ship,
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  Speaker 5: I will, I will playing a game, and twenty minutes
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  Speaker 5: after the game, I'm right back in.
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  Speaker 2: Compting, like you know what I mean, like it was,
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  Speaker 2: it was, it was that every day for me.
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  Speaker 5: And you play with my dog, My dog man really
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  Speaker 5: like he helped me through that whole even before we
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  Speaker 5: play the game. I remember came to my dorm room
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  Speaker 5: and just you know, embraced me. You know what I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that's that's that's that's the o.
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  Speaker 2: G Man, real one dog, tell you a real one
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  Speaker 2: for sure. Facts he told us you it was a dog.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, Man, I had oj the year before
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  Speaker 4: then I had the mark came. He was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I just played with some dogs. Well and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: for sure you.
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  Speaker 2: Did, my dog man. That's a good dude, man, for sure. Man.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: I got to ask you a question of how true
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: this is?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: You play the part in the US getting their own
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: pe Kobe's yes, m yes.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: And it more so came from the relations ship I
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: had with Cold I think you know when I was
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: like fifteen sixteen, You remember when they used to have
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: like Steve Nash camp YEP for Kobe Camp, Paul Periods Camp. Yeah, Mari,
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: I think it was a Mari Mark camp.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: So it just started from, you know, my relationship with Cob.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: I think it's a picture that that started to go around.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: I was a cold camp. Cob was talking to me.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: I was sitting like front row. Clay was in the picture.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: Were like fifteen, sixteen years old, and you know, ever
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: since then, like me and Cob had just like a
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: bond one me being from LA and the connection kind
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: of just grew from there. Me wearing the shoes and
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: you know, I think when the Kobe once came out,
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: he gave me a pair and I started just rocking
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: them from there, like Kobe twos. Then you can go
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: back to, you know, google me in high school my
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: senior year I had I was the first ones with with.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: The Nike. I d Kobe's damn every colorway.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: It was to a point like all through high school,
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: people tell you like I had so many Kobe's. After
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: every game I was throw him in the crowd. Uh
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: he clowned you know, so it was like it was
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: you out of pocket high school. That's fire hard, Like
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: you know this was, so it was like, you know,
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: it started from there. Then you know when got the
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: s C at the time, I think the Kobe Fords
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: was it was Kobe Fords.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Was out, and you know it just ran away with
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: it from here.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: But you're gonna tie your shoes though, never have like
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: how you That's why I know he is trench baby. Listen,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: he hooped without his shoes tied brow just like this,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: But but the thing, you know why though, what like
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I played a new shoe every game, so you know
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: how like most guys gotta break their shoe and everything,
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: so I like the tight fit. So I gotta put
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: on a new shoe every game. So I don't I
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: don't need the time. And it all started and forget.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I got some Jordan Nines when I was like eleven
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: years old. I got I have had some Jordan I
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: never told this story. Either have some Jordan Nyn's and
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: I got them for like Christmas or some shit. So
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: I wanted to wear them in a game. So my
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: mom dad was like, man, these your school shoes. This
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: for school. I'm like, no, I want to look clean
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: in the game. So it's like all right, you messing
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: on messing them up, that's on you. So I never
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: wanted to tie my shoe to put a crease in them. Never,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: So I was like, man, I'm just playing these motherfuckers
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: like I'm just walking around. So it started from that
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: moment of me never tying my shoe. I was like
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: eleven years old. I didn't want to fucking my Jordan Yns.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: You just hoop and the motherfucker giving you thirty five
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: forty and he ain't tied shit.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: With elite footwork. That's the crazy.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Are the best fits of basketball history and your shoes
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: ain't tied, and that's crazy.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: It's so crazy because it's been so many games. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: would be in a corner in front of the visit
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: visitor bench. You will, you will hear niggas say this,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: niggas shoes ain't tied, like you wouldn't hear it, Like
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: like it's niggas, I said here, disrespectful all the time.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Bro, I'm about to I'll never forget San Antonio. You
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: was in San Antonio. This is when I first noticed it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Like you've probably been, like you said, you've been doing
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: it forever. But I first noticed it because I was like,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask Mark for his jersey. I was like
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: super proud for I'm ask some nigga for the jersey.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: But I was like, man, he oh, nah, I'm a
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: fan asked for his jersey and I look down.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask for some kobees too, I said.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Nigga ain't got shoes up.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I said, man, he's not about to play to night.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: This nigga proceeds to get like thirty five. I never
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: laced this shop, I said, man.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I told the people on the bell, like wig, you know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: he just gave you thirty five.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: He ain't tied his shoes any durable though you always play.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: You tell your shoes like you do construction, and still
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: they work for corner.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Look at me.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I tied my shoes all the way up. What ship
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: was tied in the brill.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Was flopping down on the ground tide certainly right now,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: that's crazy.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I was doing this ship all right.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: That's the trick. Don't like your shoes. Like your shoes, man,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I don't. It ain't for everybody.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: And I'll be seeing some niggas hurt their ankle and
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: they tied how they show up all tight like I.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Never ye, Nigga's lame. Don't worry, bro, I can't relate.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: But that's crazy. Like you said, man, you kill usc
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Did you get drafted and then you go to Canada
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Like you didn't want to go to Floida because that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: was too far.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: You go to a whole other country.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think I needed it though, because I was
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: so stuck on being home and scared to leave home
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: that I needed that to kind of get me in
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: an element of you know, a lot of my ways
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: I follow now was from me going to Canada my
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: first year of being by myself, nobody able to come,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: none of my cousins, nobody had a passport, nobody even
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: knew who the passport was. Like, I didn't get a passport,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: and so two days before I got drafted, like so
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: let alone my family got one. So I'm up there
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: just by myself, and all I could do was just
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: focus on who you know what I mean, Like I
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: didn't have no distractions. I didn't have to worry about
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: people in and out. So it was it was. It
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: was beneficial for me, it was. And I had great
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: vets too at the time, you know what I mean,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Like Jared Jack helped me out a lot.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: That was my that was my that was my roll.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Dog like he was the first person introduced me to
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: a lot of ways on how to dress wintertime, with
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: to eat you know what I mean, all that, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: So it gave me a chance just to lock in.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: So I was I was definitely grateful for that because
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: you know, if I would anywhere else, who knows what
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: would have happened.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Facts, damn, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, your
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: first winter, boy, it was different.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Oh no, it was different because winter hit. I just
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: remember getting off the plane one time, it's snowing. I
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: got chucks on the park, you know what I mean.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: By the time I get in the car, my whole
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: angle fro, you know what I mean. Like I'm like,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I didn't know what to wear, how to wear win awear,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, so everything was like
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: a new learning experience for me that I needed.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: You know what, I meant to play with one of
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: the gods, Cal Lorry.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a couple of years later. Yeah that's Cal.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Like I talked to Cal every fucking day all day.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: He called me early Cal. When Kyle came to Toronto,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: it was interesting because I didn't. I didn't have a
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: relationship with him at all. Like we played for a
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: whole year together and I never even said a word
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: to him. Damn we didn't talk. It was like literally
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: no word. We're talking about coming practice. It wasn't no
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: like dap up. But none of that ship like like
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: it wasn't it wasn't nothing like he he He was
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: a type that I was still stuck in the mindset
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: of having like a complementality, like, man.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Who is this nigga? Like what do he? You know?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: He Philly, you know what I mean?
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: He coming in with his aggressive manner, doing whatever it
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: is he doing, getting on like man.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Who he too good for niggas? Like I ain't talking
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to him.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: But one thing like I noticed over time was like
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: he really put into work and cared about you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: the craft, you know what I mean. It was like
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: no no funny games when it it was all it
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: was all strictly business. And like that next year, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: respected that more than anything that it made me want
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: to be like closer to him, you know what I mean,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: because he a ride and die for you on that court.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: You know that's how that's how the respect came and
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: ship next day. Yeah, like next thing, you know, like
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: like that that became our roll though, like you know
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: what I mean to where like we we we had
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: shipped to a t in the game to where like
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: he and no, like I come out beginning the game,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, I'm going for a first quarter.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I'm getting to it. It's I bet I get the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: second half.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Like we played off each other so much like that
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: because we was you know, from the friendship and understanding,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: like we just wanted to win that bad.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And what's so crazy is like y'all historically like built
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a franchise up there. You know, you had Vincent teammate
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: up there, but which'll did and the Raptors Jersey is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: up there starting the test of time.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, And that just one thing I definitely like,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: you know, hold my hat too, because it's like you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: we we you know when I first got there and
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: nobody gave a shit about it about it, you know
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: what I mean. People would come to Toronto knowing they
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: was getting to win, like that was automatic. I like
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: to have a time every time, like every time, like
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: it was a thing like bro like it was it was,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: it was it was a thing. Like I remember, we
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: used to play either Saturday or Sundays. We used to
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: have early games on the weekend, like a twelve o'clock
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: twelve thirty game, and we were so bad. We used
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: to be like, man, we could get whoever we playing
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: because we know they without the night before. Damn, you
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. That's how bad. That's where we
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: had to start from and fight a way out of that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: So you know, I definitely probably myself on just you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: changing and shifting the culture to have it like a
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: you know, a winning mentality there for sure.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I start smacking shit boy.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that group. I used to want to
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: be on that. Yea, I've seen so bad. It was
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: you a mirror.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Y'all had like this cool ass team, like y'all was
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: fresh as fuck. Y'all always remember one game y'all had
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: on Jordan Six's.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, I won't play on this team.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: They look like they young. We smacked y'all, we get
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the hell out of them. But I was like, they
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: look cool, like they look like they have a good time.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I was like, damn, I want to play on this team.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: And then to see y'all go from nat to all
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: sudden like, oh, we about to go Toronto. We gotta
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: play this nigga, Kyle are about to be taking charges.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: We got to send the double for debo. Bro. You know,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: he get to this mill round just about to get crazy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: And so to see y'all take it from there to
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: like I'm having fun looking at y'all like, y'all you
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: had fun.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they real contenders. It's crazy.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Sure what year did the city really get lit?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: So we're you know, Drake and everybody pulling up to
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Drake, Drake will always come, but he was you got
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: to think about early on. That's when he just started
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: to blow up too, you know what I mean. So
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I think when it really started taking off was that
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: first year we went to the place we played, Brooklyn.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: I think that was like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. You know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: we we end up started having like the Jurassic Park outside.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: That was hard, all the fans standing outside. We just started, like,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: you know, they started like this whole rebranding outside ind
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: and we just took care of everything on the floor.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: So I want to say around thirteen fourteen when it
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: really really took off.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And you could tell, like they had that one like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the logo on the floor that was like three D. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I had the Camo jerseys and shit, ye really.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: They really started to change and rebrand everything, you know
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: what I mean, team wise and brand wise, and you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: we kind of took off with it. And you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: obviously like when when Drake got behind it, and you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: we everything kind of just fell in line, honestly. You
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: know with the winning, you know, winning always saw saw
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: of everything. But you know, we I think we just
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: started to gain anybody respect because at that time when
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: we played Brooklyn in playoffs, that's when they had Joe Johnson,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Paul KG, Darren Williams, like they had a squad. We
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: took them to seven games. That was my first playoff
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: series and most of the team, like we were young.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: So to take them to seven that lose by ship
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: at one point, you know, we that gave that gave
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: us a swagger we needed.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Years.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: They was I ain't gonna lie. Was tough to play
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: bro y'all was y'all was cold, like man.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: It was was so crazy because that next year that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: when them niggas was nice. I think we were we
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: were the only ones beating y'all. Y'all would beat us.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: I remember getting to the playoffs. I remember because that
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: next year, I'll never forget them. Niggas was nice and
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: we all we I think we would beat them, Lisa
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: three out of four times. So I remember going to
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: the playoffs. We played the Wizards, and we was like,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: we're gonna beat the Wizards. We want to play Atlanta
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: because we match up well with them, beat them, blah
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: blah blah. But we end up getting swept by the Wizards.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: That's what y'alla. But yeah, we was like them niggas
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: was nice, but we knew we could beat them. Like
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: that's that was our mindset. Before we played the playoff game.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: We was like, all right, we got the Wizards first,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: lets line up so we could play Atlanta second round.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: We get into the conference final.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I remember I had made a defense for y'all. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: was like, we're gonna trap him on everything we gonna make.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: We knew Kyle can shoot, we knew Cay can score,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: but we was like, t ross the rest of them,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: they gonna have to fucking hoop. But we already knew
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: we was gonna beat whoever we was playing the first round,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: don't even know who we played. We played Brooklyn and
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: we swept them, and we like, we're gonna play Toronto.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: We I didn't think John was gonna beat them. Listen,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't either. We got swept. We got crazy, bro,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: we got ours beat.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: That is crazy.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: We marked Toronto on that game. We was like, we're
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: gonna play Toronto.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: We did. We did the same ship.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we had The thing that was fucked up
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: is that we knew if we played in Toronto, like
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I knew, like we played in Toronto, they might get
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: us one of them games, because Toronto was tough to
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: play at that time. Like and the way I was,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: my life was set up times. Toronto was one of
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: my favorite cities. That was number two at the Miami.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: So I was like, I know, I ain't gonna be
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: ship one of them guys. But then this might become
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Dinnis might play that game.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You might come to play.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: But but then when they got swept with D C
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: wasn't my ship. I mean DC was cool, but it
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: was I can focus in DC a little bit. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: couldn't focus in Toronto games.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of my weaker weaker cities.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It was so crazy as both y'all had popping teams
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: at the time. But the problem was there was this
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: person in the East, hard person to get around at
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: That yeah, Bro, I mean, I mean, I know J
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: T said it plenty of times. I said it plenty
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: of times, but yeah, that motherfucker was impossible to me.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: That's just what it was like, you know what I mean,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Like it just it just you know ship it was.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: It was no other way around it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: You don't think y'all could have had more peace and
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: could have gotta done.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Bro, No, you can do it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: I'm be honest. I'm being honest. Like, no, Bro, Bro
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: was just like at that time, like it's unbelievable. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: always I have arguments with people because it's like they
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: asked me what bron was the best, and it's like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: my that Miami bron in that second Cleveland bron Y.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: That's my first time when he first went back to Cleveland,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that nigga was Bro.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: It was it was bro. It was he controlled everything
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: from top to bottom. Man, Like it was when you
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: stepped on that floor, it was like it was it
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: was tough.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Bro. You gotta he wanted the Greats for a reason.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: You know what. I Listen, man, I've never won a
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: playoff game against them.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: We know.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I've been in fourth series with this man. I got
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: swept four times.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I got a couple wins.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: One time we was up thirty. I swear always up third.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: That's played for the Pacers, the only way I played
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: for the player. We up thirty. Game three, I'm like,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I finally beat this dude.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: He walking in half. Tom said, we're good, We're good, Yard.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I keep their head up. They were down eight in
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: the third quarter. I looked at them.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Myself, it's.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Gonna beat us Spring. I'm doing everything about power. Look, Paul,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: shoot the ball man, take us home.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I just want one win. I knew he wasn't gonna
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: beat him, but damn, I just want.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: To Speaking about Lebron being tough, who's one of your
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: tough matchups one on one.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Outside of you, of course, outside of Bron, Like just
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: one on one h ooh he had that two yeah
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: kill bro.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: D Wade. M hmm.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: But I think somebody that was like, really really tough
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: that I like, I couldn't like like I had to
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: go head to head with was was Joe, Joe Johnson,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Daniel Johnson. Like I remember, my first Playoff series was
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Verse Joe, and I got like every bit of io Joe,
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: especially at the time.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I'm young, and you know, ship.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Part of the part of the way I play now
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: is because of Joe, of how how slow he played
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: and he was in his body getting to the buck
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: getting to a spot, getting to the bucket, you know
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: what I.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Mean, Like, damn, I'll see that now. Yeah, you feel
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: me like a lot of a lot of like a
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: lot of that ship.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: How I play now I get from fucking Joe, all
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: that methodic driven getting to a spot, like bodying all that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I got that ship from Joe because I never forget
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: my first Playoff game. I went home that it was
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: an early game. I went home that that evening and
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: I was I was in pain. It felt like I
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: got jumped by ten niggas, just like banging with them
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: the whole game, you know what I mean, Because that's
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: how physical he was.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: And just getting to a spot. So Joe was always tough,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Like Joe, Joe definitely was tough for me.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Did you always have that mini in your game? Was
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: that always your go to the MIDI because you didn't
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: be the best mini to me? Six rip Himmelson.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: You know my my.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Rookie year, Alex Alex English was my one of the
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: assistant coaches. People who don't know those jerseys. So this
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: a little like just a just just a little like
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: you know, fun fact like people don't know. I used
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: to always like sit and listen to Alex talk, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: you know, you look him up. He was top fifty
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: greatest of all time. And he used to show me
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: how he used to score at the elbow all the
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: time by just one dribble pull up, shooting over mother,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: one dribble right, one dribble left, whatever it may be,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: I'm shooting over these like And I was so amazed
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: by how simple he kept the game and was able
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: just to get buckets. And that always stuck with me.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: And he was just always once you master this and
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: get great at these positions on the floor where no
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: matter what shot you shoot, knowing that nobody could block it,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: you're gonna become unstoppable. And that ship always stuck with me,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: and I always paid attention to that, like, man, whatever
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: I do, I gotta make sure I get I gotta
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: get this anything within a three. I gotta get that
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: ship together. And that's how I looked at it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: And that ship is more than that ship is my bucket.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Every time every time you shoot that ship, bro, I'm like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: that's good. You started faking everything. He's still gonna hit
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: that ship is amazing, Brocause what's so amazing about it?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: They tried to take that shot out the game and
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: like for you to still like master that shot like
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it was a year.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Like it was a year where like they came to
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: me and said, you have to shoot more threes, like
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: you gotta do this and this, And it was like
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I'm like why, Like I really like it was a
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: year when I was a straight dickhead when it came
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: to that, I'm like why, Like nobody can stop me
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: doing this?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Why do you want me to stop doing this? You
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Analytics? I hate it.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Like when when that analytics shit started coming in a game,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: it used to make me so mad because not just
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: for myself, even early on in my career, I used
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: to look at it like, Yo, what you're telling people
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: that what you're telling these youngest that's coming up that
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: need to learn the fundamentals of the game. You know
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: what I mean, it's inside out, not outside in how
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: the game is played, like understand because yes, you feel
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: me Like yeah, So it's like it's like that's my
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: philosophy to where it's like, yo, it's bigger than just
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: me how I view the game, to where it's like
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: I want people to understand, like this is the art
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: of basketball. This is the art of what the game
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: was built on. Like everybody can't be a Steph Curry,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: and that's fine. Steph is Steph for a reason. Everybody
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: can't be everybody can't, but everybody can master spots when
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: it comes to this game and build off that. Everybody's
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: not gonna be shooting thirty thirty five footers every every
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: time that you do it the best.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Though, Bro averaging, Damn, they're a dub over dub all midies.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. Bro, you didn't don't have no three. Bro
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: when I played too bad. Let's take a track.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Let me.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Freak thump me.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Bro, don't shoot threes.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Don't shoot threes and cold though ship is unstoppable.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about Shoo three. I've seen him.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Want to beat the Paters a couple of years ago
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: off of NICs Ass three.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but I'm saying he got it now.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But I never wanted to like abuse it, like
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: like I seen Jordan's say some Ship a long time ago.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: It's like I never wanted to get comfortable with the
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: three because it takes my aggressiveness in the mid range
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: and get into the basket away, you know what I mean.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: It's easy to fall a victim, especially with me, like
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: I try to be I try to practice perfection when
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: I go out there and play in a sense of
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: like I'm not gonna shoot bad shots, and I'm like
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I have a goal in my head always shoot above
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: fifty percent no matter what, you know what I mean,
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Like I never want to be forty percent shoot Like,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: I really try to master my spot so when when
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: in game it becomes it becomes natural to me.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: No, you you can tell that you like love your
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: craft though, Like I was the one I ain't gonna lie.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I played around with my craft. I had a good time.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Like ship, I'm a hoop. I just loop naturally. That's
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: what we do in Indiana. It wouldn't like, hey, go
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: to the gym. It's like ship. I just naturally can
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: hoop like I could tell like when I I even
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: like I watch you on YouTube with Dribble too much.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I watched that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I wish I would have Like I
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: ain't trained with nobody. I trained with my niggas trying
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: to rebound quick like you know, ain't read the.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: First job you want the first stretch for it. I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: was you get my own rebel down Georgia.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: He's with George Hill in high school. Man, Georgia will
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: average thirty yeight he everage fat.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: No let the SiGe for you. That was been like
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: this too. This is about the orn. It's still crazy, man.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But one of my favorite parts about your game is like,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: obviously you go crazy in the league, but to see
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: you go back home and play in the drew every
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: summer and like really get to it, like y'all really
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: be battling that also congrassed by the wait you know
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But for whole fans, like like we
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: love basketball, to see you hoop in the summer, like
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: for y'all to really pull up there and really go crazy,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that ship is fire man.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: You know it's crazy for me, Bro, It's like It's
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: a sentimental thing because you know, my dad used to
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: take me to Julie when I was like when I
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: was young, even before I started playing to where. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: just remember when day he picked me up. I mean
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: we left the house one day and he's like, man,
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: bring bring your basketball shit. He took me to Juliet
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: I was fourteen, fifteen years old, said go out there
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: and play grown ass men. I'm like, what I guess
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: my dad told everybody, all the growning don't take it
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: easy on me, go out there, give him the work.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: And I had to compete, but it gave me a
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: mental edge when I go out there and play with them.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: When I go play people my age, it's like fuck
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: that these these motherfuckers can't fuck with me. I'm playing
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: against grown men that they kids sitting on the sideline,
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it was always something
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: that was like made me feel good because it gave
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: me like an internal confidence that I could do this.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Then it's in a hood too, like all the hood
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: motherfucker's coming out here and all the old heads and
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: they and they respecting you and taking you in. So
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: me getting in a position of being somebody that people
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: look up to like it's like mandatory for me to
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: do it, because it's like, you never know that one
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: kid that's sitting in here, I could be his hope,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: just to want to make it out, you know what
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: I mean. It's motherfuckers in here who probably never even
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: been to the Stables Center, you know what I mean
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: being able to see a basketball game. They can come
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: out here for free and watch me play like it's
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: something I take serious too, you know what I mean.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: I remember, I remember I brought one of my old teammates.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I think it was Jared Jay. I think I brought
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: him playing to Julieu one one time with me years ago.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: In the middle of the game, I think we was
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: about to get in I'm about to get a fight
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: with somebody and all this. Jack leaned over and said,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: why are you taking this ship so serious? And to me,
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: it's like, Yo, this ship is serious to me. You know,
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: it's like it's like my rep on the line for here,
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: Like I don't play around with this so like that's
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: why when you see me playing it, like I take
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: I take that ship.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: That's that's why I ain't never play I take it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: It's heavy, like even even out of the day, like
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I'm hooping out of the day.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, niggas on the other team talking shit,
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: and it's like, you know, I don't look at it
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: like nigga, you know who the fuck I am? Like, yeah,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: talk your ship, but I'm I'm gonna show you why
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: I come here all the time, you know for sure.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Man, It's crazy because like y'all don't have some moments
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: in there, but one I don't think get spoken enough.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I think it was maybe last year before that, bro,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: you and Brian Yeah on the NBA ad.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we all watched the Kobe We all watched. But
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to see that happen in the progression of the drill
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: for y'all had that moment, that's hard. It inspires people outside,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: like everybody looked at like we can't wait to see that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that it was crazy, Like even shout out
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: to Bron doing that. You know, he definitely a real
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: one for that because you know, he hit me like
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: it was the middle of the night, probably like it
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: was like a week before I had I had played
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: in and Brian had hit me. Was like, man, what's
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: up when you're playing and Drew again, I'm like next week,
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: I'm like fucking come fuck me, like come fuck with me.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: So all right, man, I'm gonna come fuck with you.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: So I'm thinking like he probably forget that, he got busy.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: It was like a night before that. The following week,
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: it's like we're time to get blah blah blah. Alright,
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: bet I'm pulling up and I think I had tweeted
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: like Debo and like the Crown or whatever. Pulled up
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: and just to see how like electrified the city was. Bro,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: just to see like little like my thing. I'm big
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: on looking in the crowd and seeing like kids reaction,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, seeing those like like like
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: like they've just seen a ghost. Like to me, that's
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: the ship that makes it feel like, Yo, this ship
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: is always bigger than basketball because these these kids carrying
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: this shit like forever, you know what I mean, Like
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: they're gonna remember this moment. And for Bro to do that, man,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: that shit was like that shit was amazing, you know
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: what I mean, especially like, you know, shit twenty years
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: in years, four years, how big is to come out
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: there in the in the hood and who and the
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: game was cracking too, Like it was like they took
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: us down to the wire like they was out there
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: talking shit all that. So, man, that shit was a
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: probably you know, my second favorite fame favorite mote moment
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: outside of when Cole play Cob always gonna be my
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: number one whenever.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: But what when Brian did that ship man? That ship
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: that was some real ship man.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this then, because I remember I
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: said that I said something out of pocket about Cold,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: because I said what I say.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: James, Remember said James Harden was better.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I said, James Harden scored a little better than Cold
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: was out of pocket.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: No, like James Harden scored that most. I've told somebody
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: this multiple times. The run James had, it's crazy. Come on, bro,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: The run James had was fucking like that ain't even
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: a video game.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Was crazy.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: That ship was like some fucking like space jam. Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, because like if you didn't watch the game,
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: you just knew when you checked the box score it
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: was gonna be something fucking crazy.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Forty forty forty five.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Fifteen to sist ten rebounds Like that run he had, Bro,
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: that ship was fucking incredible, and how he did it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: The ship looked like it was with no effort.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: That's what I was saying.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, So I got what you
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: was coming from from. From from that standpoint, I think
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: people react people's people is just so sensitive when it
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: comes to like certain people, certain ship. You really just
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: sit and think. Bro, that run James had BRO was
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: the most incredible ship like we we I ever seen.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Like it was crazy.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: He would just literally come down court by by by
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: three five step three by by by hes he it
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: was it was fire like come on like it was incredible.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: And don't forget Nigga was winning fifty games in the West,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: in the West, and that's crazy who he was going against.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: He had to go against that prime warrior situation and
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: he was still going crazy.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Going Bro, that's the only thing I said. But I
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: got killed for that. But I think Kobe is phenomenal.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Like it's nothing like I know to love you and
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: respect you for coch but I just at that moment,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what I had to play against James Bro
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: that but that that ship was different.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, that's the thing.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: Like it just like listen, you said, Kobe is my
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: goat all that everything, but it's like it's real, is real?
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: The ship James was doing. I don't think we ever
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: see that. All you want, we.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: They try to they try to erase it with with Luca.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Obviously we know Luca, he liked it. But I'm like, nah, bro,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: James had to do that against teams in the West
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: one it was I mean.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Them teams in the Rockets weren't that great. It was
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of James, Harden and everybody else just kind
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: of saying the corners of these series that man was on.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: When I see when I seen somebody reguards to him
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: and stand behind him.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Stand behind gas, behind their back, I said, I don't
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: know what the is going on right here?
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: This is bad basketball.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: But he that special where you can't even't know what
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, like you gotta go. I don't. I'm
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: trying something totally different. I'm just staying behind you. That's crazy.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Speaking on COVID, did you pull some of your feetwork
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: from him?
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely got a lot of that came through
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: through conversations with him of just breaking down like he
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: was a big soccer fan, so he used to always,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: you know, incorporate how soccer players move, how to use
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: their footwork to get leverage, quickness, and he always used
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: to tell me to watch you know, certain players like
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: you know, I came obviously the way he moved, but
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: also like the smaller guards, like like a fucking like
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Andre Miller for example, you know what I mean, legend
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: not the fastest, not can't jump the highest then that,
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: but he knew how to maneuver in small places to
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: be able to get a shot off or get to
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: the bucket and everything.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: So I used to I used to start.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: I started paying attention to like a lot of of
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: the D and them players in a sense that you know,
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: probably don't have the big notoriety as everybody else, you
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. And took a lot of stuff
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: from him. Another person who helped me with my fullwork
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: shit was like Sam could sell you know what I mean.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: When I was fifteen, like used to be around Sam,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: and Sam always used to preach to me about certain
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: ways how to shoot the turn around, how to get
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: your feet leverage a certain type of way, you know
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: what I mean. Learn from him, and learn from fucking
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Catino Mowgli how to get your shots, you know what
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: I mean. It's certain players that I took so much from,
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: like incorporated. But Cole wasn't one to put the like
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: the the notion in it too. You know you master this,
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: Like basically, he always used to tell me, learn how
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: to play in a phone booth.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: If you could be if you know how to master
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: how to create shots from a phone booth, you're good,
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So he used to talk
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: a lot of fucking codes. He used to take some
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: time to figure out. But when I figure it out
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: and the light bulb off, I know I had something.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't just spoken enough. How good your footwork is?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: So I had to ask.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And that's the fire part. When you hear players like
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you and your caliber speaking like you. When you hear
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: people like yeah, it's cool to but like now, but
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you always speak on the players like okay, everybody may
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: not speak on his name, but like I learned something
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: from this player that's pivotal to my game.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: That's like Tony Parker. His footwork was crazy. It's crazy,
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: but it's like my hole on and off the court.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's just just on the court. On the court,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: shout to TP.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: I learned from all the motherfuckers, man, Like I really
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: became like a student of the game and just watch
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: motherfuckers rather if it was a slow motherfucker fast mouth
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: quick and just try to take take ship from him
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: from him and try to incorporate it, you know, into
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: my game.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: You one of the best scores, like you, like we're
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: talking about phone booth scores, like you mellow on those guys, Kobe,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Like y'all can get y'all shot off at any point,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Like I always say that, Like that's why I said
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: when we was gonna play, gonna send doubles. But it
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: was like, it don't matter where you at on the floor.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I know you can get a shot off, like that's
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: you know, but you it's never a shot clock violation.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Like with me, I used to get shot ced like you.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, he ain't getting no shot clock violets. You
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: know how to get a shot off, That's that's like
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: tough to do. That's what I think about you, James.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Same thing with Melo cole kd y'all le scores. Like
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: when I hear people talking about one of the least
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: scores in the league, your name should be talking about
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: a lot more.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that because you know it's definitely one thing,
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: like you know that you know, they get overlooked for
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: whatever reason, you know what I mean. I heard somebody
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: on the podcast say some ship I wouldn't to score
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: and all this, and it's just like, you know, it's like,
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: come on, how many points you up? It's only probably
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: I think thirty people in the history basketball got more
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: points than me.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: So it's like, come on, balance me, like you know
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, it's it's one of those
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: things like when it comes to it, like you just
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: check the facts on.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean, when it comes to that,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: and that's crazy thing to say about you. Yeah, I
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: put that up. That's why I'm he's buckets around, you
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: know what it is. That's the crazy ship to say
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: about Broun. It's like, Broun don't really score, bro, he
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: got the most buckets ever. How you're gonna say the
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: nigga not to score. He got the most buckets ever.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: People just say that just it's just show me how
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: stupid they are, you know what I mean, Like, come on, man,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: you get buckets, bro, that's you got buckets your whole career.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Though it ain't like it's just ain't like you always
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: that's the ship that throws me off, like y'all like
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: like it's something new, like you always got buckets. Like
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: it's kind of funny when I because when I heard
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: somebody said on the podcast, I was like, huh, like
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: come on if you would to say, yo, he don't
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: pass like you don't get assists like that.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, when you're gonna look at the status, it's like,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: how bro, you know how people play in this league?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: And he so he topped in the league like.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Like it didn't even want like I couldn't even like
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: comment on it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: I just thought it was like it was beyond funny
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: to me, Like it's just like I guess anybody with
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: a microphone can say whatever whatever they want to these day.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: That was crazy your bucket.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask, how was that transition going from Toronto
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to San Antonio?
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Man, it was.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: Tough because obviously everybody know like I wanted to be there.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: I wanted I wanted to stay there everything you know, ship,
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: you know, that was that was home. So you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: getting traded the way with down, you know, that part
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: hurt more than anything. Then you know, when I finally
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: calmed down and realized, like, shit, I'm going to San Antonio.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Damn what they say about City Born blah blah blah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, I'm playing for Pop. It's her like
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: fucking coach Pop, Like you know what I mean? And
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: what's crazy? When I got traded, I didn't talk to
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: nobody for like fucking two weeks. I wouldn't answer my phone.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: I was mad as shit, like I'm I was. I
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: was in my feelings. I was like, man, I was,
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: I was. I was hurt and I ain't gonna lie.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: But Pop had called me out the blue and just
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: was like, look, we didn't trade you.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: We traded for you.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: Like and when I let let that sink in, I'm like, god, damn,
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: he got a fucking point like all right, Like and
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: just to like be underneath Pop, to hear like the
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: game from him, the way he just took me in
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: and accepted me more than just a basketball player, like
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: to help with the transition, Like I like, I cherished
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: that shit forever, man, because it was something I needed
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: in my career at the time, because I'm looking you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at the game one way my whole time,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: and you know, my nine years in Toronto, I'm thinking, just,
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: you know, just go out there, shoot the ball thirty times,
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: try to get a win.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: If I don't, if I don't, if I shoot bad,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: at least I try.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: With Pop, it was more so like how can you
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: make everybody else around you better and with that make
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: it easier on myself. So Pop always used to tell me,
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: give me three and a half quarters of playing this way,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: the rest is you. And with that it made the
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: game more fun because now I'm getting everybody involved, making
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: it easier doing this. But when it was time to win,
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: it was like, go win the game, you know what
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: I mean. And it gave me a different outlook on
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: just how to incorporate use the game, use your teammates,
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: get everybody involved, and find the rhythm of the game
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: that way. Like my first my first shoot around with Pop,
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: I remember he said, man, tomorrow, you the point guard.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: I ain't never played point guard day in my career,
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: and it's like he telling me I'm the point guard.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: But I think that whole week, I think I averaged
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: like like damn near thirteen fourteen assists, you know what
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: But he'd do shit like that to challenge you to
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: show you that you can do it, you know what
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, and that that was something definitely needed for sure.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: You heard a lot of good reviews from players about
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: coach Propert. Then it's so dope to see now like
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: he got wimby. Yes, like we know he's gonna be
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: for sure anyway, but he got popped. Like he's the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: next superstar for sure.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: For sure, he definitely gonna learn. I mean, you see
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: it now, even just how he was playing the Olympics,
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: like the way he played in the championship game, you
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like he's still a kid, bro,
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: But I guarantee you he was on the phone with
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Pop that night this you know what I mean, Pop
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: giving him some type of you know, inside and knowledge
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: on how to carry that. Now, watch how he beat
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: this year.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: It's about to get spooky. And he got feet on there.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah spoky, bros. Yeah, this shit looked like a video game. Nah, bro,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Like I've never like we played them this year. I
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: swear I had a drive to the lane. He I'm
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: on one side of the key, he on the other side.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I stopped for the layup and pulled it back out.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: He was on the other side of the key. He
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't even like but I just knew he had the
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: recovery length to be able to fucking block whatever I
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: throw up. Crazy, I'm talking about you. You just looking
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: in an eye, Bro, you gonna know like he he
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be one of.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: The ones for sure. Oh yeah, we never seen nothing
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: like him? No, hell no like KD.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: What I seen KD I was I've never seen nothing
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: like seven can do all that stuff. He four or
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: five inches tall and KD.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: What a handle.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Obviously you are student in the game. Who are some
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: of the young players in the league that you know
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Take a notice or take a liking too.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: That's a hell of a question because I think you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: like how young are you talking? Like? Whatever?
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: Whoever, let's do John, Okay, Like those guys, I think
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: they're gonna carry this lead to you know where it
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: needs to be. You know what I mean when you
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: look at the job the Lucas, it's all those guys
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: they like beyond special man, Like you know, I'd be glad.
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: I'd be glad when you know John get back healthy,
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: he get back on the floor, because you know, the
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: game is that much more exciting when those when those
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: players are healthy, you know what I mean, Like, you know,
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: I hate that he wasn't out there to do, you know,
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: to be a part of you know, all this, Like
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: it's it's amazing to see just being a fan of
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: like all these guys that come in to lead that
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: you know, you see him as kids one year and
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: the next year fucking you know, they hold swag change
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: you see, you know what I mean, They carrying their.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Their own aura.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: So you know, my favorite players is obviously like John
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: Luca fucking you know, I don't know if JT is
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Jason still a fucking and.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: That's one of my favorites.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: And from Compton Listen, I don't know him personally like that,
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: but the times I didn't play it. I remember I
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: played against ant this year and like the dog he
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: got in him. I remember jump ball, He's still right
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: next to me. He he guarded me. I'm like, yo,
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: Like he take on all these fucking challenges and I
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: respect that from a young and like that, you know
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: what I mean, Like like you see the dog in
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: him and obviously you see it with the Olympic team and.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: What he gonna be come next season. Is like that ship.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: I know what playing in the Olympics do for a
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: player like that, shit takes you to a whole another
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: level mentally, physically, emotionally, like you feel like you that
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: especially being around them those other eleven guys. So like
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: those like definitely and one of my favorites. So I
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: think those guys gonna carry the league to where it
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: needs to be for sure.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying. Obviously, you know a
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: new situation is summer Congress on that as well. Appreciate
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: you're playing with another young dog as well. I don't
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: know if it's too young the Fox.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was part of the reason, you know,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: even making making that decision the Fox. In my career.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Man, they do that fast listen, fastest ship, fastest ship.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Like he put me on the bench.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Man. See, that's the first time I said, you know,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I think I want to come off the bench.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: They want to come against man. I was like, yeah,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I think we'll come off the bench. I was like, yeah, Minnesota,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I think you could probably start Jones.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Nah, yeah, I think that situation, you know, I came.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: It came out of nowhere after you know, season was over,
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: when free agency hit. You know, I know it was
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: a bunch of other options, but you know, when I
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: just sat back and like realized, like, you know, what
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: the team needed, what they had, what they was fighting for,
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: and how bad they want to win, you know, it
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: just fit the mold that you know, I want to
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: be a part of. And you know, just being able
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: to play with those guys, you know, I'm looking forward
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: to it. You know, a monk, sir, hurry. You know,
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: it's it's a lot of it's a lot of those
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: guys that that that's special, you know, and and I
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: really want to be a part of that. I feel like,
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: you know I could, I definitely can help. When did
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: your game start transitioning? Because to me, I could be wrong,
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: but I feel like when you first came to the league,
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: he was a high flyer.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I was, yeah, and then you turned it. I'm not
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: saying you dumbed your game down, but you brought to
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: like ship, I'm gonna shoot these minies and when what
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: you're that like, I'm abo to stop dunking on niggas
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: because I'm trying to I ain't trying to be like
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Jeff T and these be all fucked up wanted to
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: keep going years and years.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? What's what's crazy? Twenty thirteen?
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: No shame he trying to dunk on everybody. Jeff had
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: hots my life like motherfucker, you.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. But he didn't want to stop.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: He didn't know he was a jabblwalking through his whole career.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: What's crazy? That's a great question. Twenty thirteen. I had
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: tored my growing I like off the bone. It was
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: like six six, seven games in the season. I just
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: trying to turn the corner with the ball slipped toward
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: my whole groun, and like I was so worried because
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: I'm like, man, we're finally getting good. I think the
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: year before I had made All Star. So I'm like, man,
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: funk I'm trying to do. I didn't want to be
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: a one time All Star type of nigga, you know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: like like.
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: To tell your story. I know niggas gonne share the shark,
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: tell your side of the story.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: This is about the ad.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Y'all.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Come on, man, tell your story.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: I'm bad, jam bad, Bro, my bad. I ain't I
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: didn't even think about it, bro.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Listen. That was funny, that's good. I didn't want to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: be a one time All Star.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: At the time, I was so thirsty, like I was
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: so mad at getting hurt to where it was like
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: six seven game in the season. So when I tore
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: my growing, I'm thinking they talked about surgery and all
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: this shit. So I'm like, man, hell no, I ain't
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: trying to miss the season all this shit, so I'm
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: doing it whatever I possibly can to see how fast
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: I could get back. So I ended up doing like
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: the PRP shit, you know, rehab. I think I missed
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: twenty two games. So I kind of rushed myself back,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: thinking like, fuck it, I can still make All Star.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: We still was winning, let me, let me get back
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: out here and started killing. So when I started back playing,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: I wasn't right for that next probably like two years.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Nobody knew.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: I never said nothing, so that made me scared to
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: jump run fast, and that's when I started paying attention
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: to theygas like fucking Joe Johnson, fucking I remember. I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: remember during that time, I sat there and watched those
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: two years of Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards. I said, oh,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: I swear to god, I watched Jordans every game Jordan
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: played in a Wizard jersey.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: They said both his knees was fucked up, he couldn't move,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: blah blah blah. So I'm I'm watching him from the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: standpoint of like, how is he doing? What he doing?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: He's still averaging twenty plus, still getting forty, but he
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: not yoused. He not athletic no more. He not the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: old Jordan. So I watched so much in him. So
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: when I came back and started playing, I try to
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: play more that way to where I started to kind
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: of like master playing that way. And by the time
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: I got more healthy, my athletic ability and all that
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: was in case of emergency.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: So he's listening. He was watching niggas jump off the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: rope and w w he watching the real field.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I want to enjoy my life. I like wrestling and ship.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: He watching m J. I don't thought m J was
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: done looking at.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: Different I'm done. I'm looking like Jordan. He looking at
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: the footwork.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Crazy now.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: But I wanted to talk about because I always want
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: I'm bro. I'm a fan bro for real. So I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: watched everybody talk so highly of you, like Kobe White,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: no younger Dayling Terry talk about how the leader you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: was in Chicago, and it's like damn to hear him
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: speak about you like that, Like, bro, Tuck is under
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: his wing. He talks the ropes and didn't see like
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Kobe White, you know, had an up and down for
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: and then you get there and all sudden you see
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: him start growing and becoming basically to me, he's gonna
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: be one another star.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I see, I see him being an All Star. This
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: shit no question for me.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: It got to a point to when I start realizing,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: like you know, I'm I'm getting older, especially when motherfucker
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: started calling me old head.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Damn shit, you know what I mean.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: That's why I started like I was dodging that ship
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: for for a long time, like niggas calling me o
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: g oh yeah, like until like I just finally like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: accepted it in a sense to where it's like, y'all,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: I really fuck with these young dudes, bro, because it's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: like I really won't. I really want to see everybody
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: be successful and win, you know what I mean, Like
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: think about it, bro, Like sometimes I have moments where
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: I just sit up here and be like I'm from compting.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: I damned there made three hundred million dollars from playing basketball, damn,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: you know what I.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Mean, Like like they're like that ship. Let me.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: It's like it's like when I have those moments and
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: think about it, it's like, how how much of everything
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: I learned, the fails, the success, and everything that I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: could give to these young guys that probably don't know it,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, the good the bad on
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: and off the court. And I really I really put
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: my all into all my teammates that I play with,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: all these young dudes, because you know, I remember being
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: so blind when I was young, not knowing you know shit,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: I remember I was a motherfucker going to the hotel room,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: order fucking chicken tenders and wings and call it a
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: night to where it's like evens even now, it's like
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: I take all these young dudes to go eat at
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: these restaurants so they can see and understand something different.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: It ain't just hotel food that you can eat, you
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? Like I try to like expose
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: them to so much more that the world have to offer.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: Don't just be stuck in this one place. And you know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: once you free up a motherfucking mind to that aspect.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: It helps them with the confidence to help them with
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: the preparation. Especially with me, It's like all these all
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: these young niggas everybody I play with, see me after
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: a game if we on the road, first thing I do,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: I get on the phone with my kids.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to my kids, hearing about my kids. They
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: doing this. I'm showing them the responsibilities.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: I still take take care of it on a daily
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: base and still be the first one on the bus,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: still be the first one in the meeting, first one
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: in the gym, doing all this. And it's like any
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: any logical person who sees that will understand, like, damn,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: that's that's thinking about it. Bro, I'm going to six
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: year sixteens crazy like still doing it to this level. Like,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: you gotta be consistent. So I try to give the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: game to all these youngins as best as I can. Bro,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: You not every single day.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: You're doing a hell of a job.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: To see I'm just what I'm watching them as players grow,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: and it's like, and they giving you that credit, It's like, damn,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: BRO figured it out. But then to see your game though,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: like to see you when we first in the league
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: to where you are now, You're like, yeah, he put
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: in the work and that time, and like you said,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: three hundred million, they pay off, Bro, that work and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: to see I know what you're gonna do in Sack
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: with that same group, with them young guys who they
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: got a great team, You're gonna do the same thing.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: I see him having another great year and making some
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: noise in the West, for sure.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: It's crazy more years in the league, Bro, like for sixteen,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: but we can see you playing another five six years
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: level Like, that's the dope part about it and everything
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: that we learned. I think the best part that we
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: get to meet people and you see the difference of
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: people who pouring too that team. That's the points it
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: showing people more this outside of that. Those are the
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: ones you see that get the respect they get to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: their careers and others kind of more sage. It's like,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: all right, the kind of fall by the wayside. So
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: it all makes sense, man, it all makes sense for me.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: Like, Bro, I always told myself, like, fuck the media,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: fuck with people p and a gotta say after games
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: and all this. I always took the heart like if
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: my my peers respect me, all that matters. You feel
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: me like that's the only thing that matters as long
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: as I could walk in the gym and motherfuckers know, like, man,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: like I fuck with d R D. Man, he gonna
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: compete or you gotta bring it like that's that's what
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: matters to me the most.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: You got that for sure.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Off basketball a little bit, man, I want to ask
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: you about Kendrick Ryan Man, what you're thinking about the
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: he came back, He put the city back, I mean
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: the head man.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: I know, Drake your guy, but yeah, but I think
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: you know, even not my guy.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: But I think for me being on the inside, it's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: never like it's not a surprise for me, right, I mean,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: like it's it's like like I see Bro or talk
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: to Bro, like it's it's a normal thing, you know.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: So it's like when you know a person and it's
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: like he he probably somewhere sitting in the room with
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: sage lit right now, not knowing what the fuck is
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: going on on the outside world of things, you know
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: what I mean, because he just he in tune or
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: whatever it is.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: He like he living his life, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: So like as a fan, you know, you you hype
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: to see it, But from my standpoint, you know, like, no, bro,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: that's that's that's bro. So it's like when you see him,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: it's kind of like you know, you see j T
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: go who in a Big Three, and it's like you're
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: really not surprised, you know he yeah, you know what
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: I like. So it's really not a surprise if you
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: go see him fucking going out there killing motherfucker's in
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: the Big Three, it's like.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Did you know he was gonna be a star or
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: had a feeling before, because of course you heard he
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: always was like different in ahead of his time and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: and kind of like was a visionary with how he
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: approached and looked looked at things, you know what I mean,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: And he always had that and a lot of times
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: I think as as just like a man.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: You see the growth and the failures that he he
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: took and had to accept and grow from, not just
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: fuck it just being about the rap part of it,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: you know personally, you know, and you see the growth
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: in an individual, and you know, like we all know
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: he nice when it comes to you know, rapping, but
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: you know you've seen the growth from it, and you
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: know he put it in his art, you know what
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: I mean. I know a lot of people you know,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: want to hear more from him all that, but to him,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: it's like, you know, he put his life, he put
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: his life out there for us to understand, and sometimes
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: niggas got to go through ship to be able to put,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: you know, our life out there and speak about some ship.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: So to me, it's just like, you know, it's cool
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: to see him out there, but it's more so like
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: cool just to see him, you know, and.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: And in the in the hill space mentally, you know
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Is that first album Top five.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: The first one one?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good, but that even that, it's like that's
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: such a storyline of you know what I mean, you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: inside like so you do, but it's like that album.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Like the breakdown of it, it's like you walk Street.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: So it's like like vision and ship like when I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: hear it, like I know exactly, like it's certain ship
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: he even say where it's like I may get it
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: more than everybody else, you know what I mean.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: But it's like it's definitely in my definitely my tip five.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: What was that like though at that concert, Like yeah,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: like you all y'all on stage, y'all on the whole
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: cality together.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was one of those things. I know,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: people get so caught up and looking at the whole
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: beef part of it and everything.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: It's bigger than that though.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: It's so much bigger than that, because like it's a
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: lot of those dudes I know had problems with another dude,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: this hood, didn't get along with this hood, or or
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: it was it was some type of tension or friction,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: or you haven't seen these sets of people around, this
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: set of people in X amount of time, and for
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: it to be a moment to be able to share
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: be shared in LA in the forum, to bring out
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: all of artists from like you know, from home, to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: do that with no problem, no issues. Everybody get in
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: there with no arguments, no fights, no scuffles lead there,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: everybody get home. It was like it was just a
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: different type of fucking like appreciation for one another, you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. I know it's so easy to
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: get caught up in the whole beef part of it
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: and all that, but for us, it's just like it's
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: bigger than that, you know what I mean.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Music, if music could bring us together, it.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: Just show you how powerful we are as people that
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: if we just put all the fucking egos and all
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: that sensitive ship to the side, like we really could
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: come together and do something special, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: That was a moment too man like not even.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: To do that.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: Brow lights get niggas that can go crazy in the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: city like there to Toronto, bro, but that ain't speak even.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: That, Like just how great the I know it's so
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: easy when people get caught up in the size and
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: all that.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: But it's like, I don't think Drake.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: Still the phasing ship that Drake then did over what
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: the last fifteen years, nothing nothing could ever take.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: That away, you see what?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: Like I know, like I said, it's always easy when
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: I look at it from be honest with you, I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: look at all this ship like I really come from,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: like the hood I come from, like niggas losing their
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: life over some dumb shit over dice games, Like I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: didn't have an uncle get killed by that was a
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: blood that got killed by a crypt. Another uncle that
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: was a crypt that got killed by blood and like it,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: and it fucked up my whole like childhood upbringing to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: where it's like y'all letting songs divide and create and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: make people so sensitive to where it's like to me
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: it's like, come on, man, like we it's like watching
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: a fucking action packed movie.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Nobody really, you know what I mean.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: To me, I hated how it started because they're just
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: two totally different artists. To me, I didn't I get Drake,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: and really it's just Kendrick, like you said, it really
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: comes from kind of more respected.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like, I think you can't just never
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: discredit like Drake. Drake. Drake is like Drake. You was
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: in the city when Drake.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: Really, yeah, I see, yeah, I've seen from from the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: beginning to to so where is it the star?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: You know, Like, I don't think it will ever be
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: another Drake. That's just that's just what it is, you know.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: And ain't nobody ever fought against that many people bro.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Drake him, Kendrick him.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: To the end of the day, it just comes down
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: to being that, like both of them the big dogs
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: at what they do, and why about that being respected?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Everybody got spared one day. But that's list.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: Hey, in my neighborhood, the two toughest niggas have to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: get down. One gotta lose. That don't make them less
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: than the other one, you know what I mean, It's
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: just be more respected because ain't nobody else gonna get
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: down with one of these one of them niggas.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: That's just so. That's that's my view.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: Everybody who don't come from the streets or understand the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: street part of it may not look at it like that.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: It may getting their feelings or be sensitive about certain ship.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: For me, I look at all this ship, like bro,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: ain't nobody hurt this ship?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Is this?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: This is it was good watching fucking the matrix. See
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: I told you about Lebron and Brownie. This is the matrix.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Man, let's get up before Now that's hard. I think
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: it's dope and ship right.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: What you think about like seeing bron I got the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: upmost respectful bron but be able to see his son
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: in the league with them play on the same team that.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: You know how the league work. Yeah, it's gonna be
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: a moment where Bronni and Broun in the game, but
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: the same time he's starting. I ain't say he's starting,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: but it's gonna be a moment.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: I told everybody it's gonna be a highlight or little
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: bron You're gonna throw brown alive and the ships gonna
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: go crazy.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be everywhere. You know it's gonna happen though,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: right for sure, that's.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: What I'm hoping. I'm watching a game with me too.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna lie, I'm gonna recorded.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want it to be against the Kings, but
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: it's definitely a moment like come on, bro, like damn
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: with everybody.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: None of us never seen no ship like that, so
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: for to be an opportunity for that to happen. Ship,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: if I had a son, I want like if my son,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: if my son, now, if my my son two years old,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: so you cook, But if I had my son was
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: in that position, I will I will want the same thing.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: For sure. They do nothing.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: I gotta start having kids at fourteen that we ain't
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: pushing that.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: But if you're trying to leave, what a good circle, man.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: We're about to get the fuck up out of here. Man,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: biged out. We appreciate you sliding on this man, best
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: of luck this season. Were definitely gonna be watching the Kings.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Be here. Tell the people that can grasp and march at.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Shop Club five twenty dot com. Baby, were out of here.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Thanks, you know what it is. Club five twenty The
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: volume