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9-29 H1: Welcome Back Kidd, Reacting to Dipoto, Thirst For Hirst & Empty The Notebook · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning. Great morning to you all and welcome
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  Speaker 1: in to Chuck and Buck in the Morning Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: 93.3 KJR FM. It is wonderful to have you with
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  Speaker 1: us here on this Tuesday. And when I say us, oh,
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  Speaker 1: do I have an announcement to make? We have a change.
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  Speaker 1: I've been telling you for quite some time that the
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  Speaker 1: move of Anders Hurst to the morning show was not
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  Speaker 1: going to be the only move that was going to
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  Speaker 1: be made here in the mornings. And finally, officially, we
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  Speaker 1: can announce, and with enthusiasm, the third member to our
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  Speaker 1: morning show going forward. Don't say it. Don't you deprive
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  Speaker 1: me of the chance to say this, Anders Hurst, but
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  Speaker 1: how excited.
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  Speaker 2: Are you to make this announcement? I am extremely excited.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is the bigger edition, to be completely honest.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like the footnote compared to this one. Oh, stop.
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  Speaker 1: You've got great addition. Great addition. Hey, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to shortchange myself, but this one is just, wow. This
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  Speaker 1: is a new addition. This is like Bobby Brown. That's true.
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  Speaker 1: This is like adding Bobby Brown to new addition. That's
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  Speaker 1: what this is. Yeah, I'm sorry to date both of you.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully one of you understood that reference. No idea who
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  Speaker 1: that is, but okay. You don't know who Bobby Brown is? No.
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  Speaker 1: You know who Bobby Brown is. No, I swear to God,
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  Speaker 1: I do not. My prerogative? Whitney Houston's husband? Yeah. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: That is something right there. All right. We'll put a
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  Speaker 1: pin in that and come back to that a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later on. But yes, the new edition is an
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  Speaker 1: old familiar face voice here at the radio station. When
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  Speaker 1: he left us, everybody was despondent. And since that time,
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody here at the station had vowed to
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  Speaker 1: get him back on our radio station. And so We're
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  Speaker 1: going to have him in the mornings. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: be the producer of the Chuck in the Mornings radio program.
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  Speaker 1: We welcome back to KJR with open arms, the great
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  Speaker 1: Christopher King!
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  Speaker 4: Yes!
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  Speaker 1: What's happening with you? Good morning, good morning. All those
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  Speaker 1: dulcet tones. Thank you again. It's been a long vacation.
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  Speaker 5: So thank you to the team, Chuck, and everybody for
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  Speaker 5: getting me back. So it's good to be back. I'm
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  Speaker 5: excited again. You've probably heard this before, but this is
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  Speaker 5: where I started as an assistant. So to be back
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  Speaker 5: doing it full, not full time, but doing it alongside
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  Speaker 5: Chuck and Anderson, this is going to be a fun ride.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm happy to be back and do it again. Yeah. He,
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  Speaker 1: for most of that time that he was on the
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  Speaker 1: morning shows, it was during COVID. And I was a
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  Speaker 1: stark raving maniac because I almost broke my brain. And
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  Speaker 1: so he got to hear the dark version of me.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair. Me yelling into the phone, where is everybody?
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  Speaker 1: Where's the sound? Why can't I hear Bucky? Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because everyone was remote at that point. I'm much more
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  Speaker 1: mellow now. I mean, grumpier than ever, but grumpy you
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  Speaker 1: can handle. I'm not angry anymore. Grumpy and angry, two
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  Speaker 1: different things. Two completely different things. Everybody's grandpa is grumpy.
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  Speaker 1: And you can handle grandpa. You love grandpa. I got
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  Speaker 1: Werther's Originals in my pocket. But yeah, you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to deal with angry COVID Chuck anymore. So that's great.
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  Speaker 1: But good to see you. Good to have you. He
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  Speaker 1: is back with us here at Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 1: And in a little bit of a different mode. role
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be here on the morning show going forward.
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  Speaker 2: I feel just spoiled that we're the ones they get
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  Speaker 2: to enjoy the return of one Christopher Kidd.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, you should have seen it. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: were trying to conduct a meeting yesterday and I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: finish a sentence without somebody from the staff. sales on
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  Speaker 1: air or otherwise coming over and interrupting the meeting and
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  Speaker 1: giving me this excuse me sorry i know you're meeting
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  Speaker 1: right now yeah but i just wanted to chris are
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  Speaker 1: you back yeah is it official yeah yeah and then
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  Speaker 1: a hug and great to have you and everything else
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  Speaker 1: and then i would then the grumpy part of me
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  Speaker 1: would leer at them and say can we finish our
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  Speaker 1: conversation yeah right there's the grumpy chuck but i had
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  Speaker 1: to do it 22 times uh yesterday and our meeting
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  Speaker 1: so Obviously, everybody at the station's glad to have you back.
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  Speaker 1: The only person that might be angry is Greg, because
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  Speaker 1: Greg's like, he's not coming back for me? Yeah. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're all set now. We're all good. Everybody's shows are
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  Speaker 1: locked in for the time being. And this was the
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  Speaker 1: final piece. So I told you another move was coming.
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  Speaker 1: This is the move. So here's your morning show going
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  Speaker 1: forward for better or worse. Christopher Kidd, Anders Hurst, Chuck
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  Speaker 1: Powell with you. on the new show, Chuck in the
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  Speaker 1: Morning's Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. Yeah, I'm beyond excited.
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  Speaker 2: I still had to let him into the building this
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  Speaker 2: morning because they're still trying to figure out all the
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  Speaker 2: key card stuff and everything. But, you know, we'll get
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  Speaker 2: that sorted out and let's rock and roll.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, two things haven't changed since you've been away. The
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  Speaker 1: key card thing is still a disaster. Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 1: And number two, people still hate Jerry DiPoto. Nothing has changed. Nope.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he never left. Yeah, Chris. Yeah, exactly. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if it was an extended vacation or a 20 minute nap,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Things will never change on the Jerry DePoto front.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, those that listen to this show know
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  Speaker 1: that I've probably defended him the most here in town.
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  Speaker 1: And after yesterday's press conference, I mean, that's going to continue.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm supposed to hate him. I
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  Speaker 1: guess I'm supposed to think he's terrible at his job.
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  Speaker 1: That's what everybody wants me to think. It feels like anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's a more quiet group of Mariner
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  Speaker 1: fans that don't feel like he's the worst thing that
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  Speaker 1: ever happened to Seattle. But the only people you hear
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  Speaker 1: from are those that do. And so here we go again.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to have two days of this because
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it a lot in the
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  Speaker 1: next couple of days. And so if I'm on an island,
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  Speaker 1: let it be. If you haven't figured anything about Chuck Powell,
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  Speaker 1: by now, I mean, I don't say anything for effect.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly tell you how I feel, and I'm ready
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  Speaker 1: to defend it. I don't care if I'm on this
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  Speaker 1: island by myself. I'm armed with the truth. And if
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  Speaker 1: anybody can't handle that, okay. I know soldiers by the
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  Speaker 1: thousands are going to storm my beach, but let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have the conversation. And I'm certainly not going to
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  Speaker 1: defend everything about him. As a matter of fact, there
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  Speaker 1: were some things in that press conference yesterday that sort
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  Speaker 1: of a revelation went off in my mind, which we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to here in a moment. But if I'm a
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  Speaker 1: one legged man in an ass kicking contest. Well, get
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  Speaker 1: ready because you're about ready to get jump kicked in
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  Speaker 1: the nuts a few times here over the course of
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  Speaker 1: the next 48 hours. But let's go ahead and start
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  Speaker 1: with a little bit of audio from Jerry talking about
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  Speaker 1: the question that Softie posed to him. And you'll hear
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  Speaker 1: Softie as well. This is the one that I think
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  Speaker 1: most people were talking about. Leave it to our guy
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  Speaker 1: to create most questions. Most of the, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: did he ask that kind of drama? But pretty much
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  Speaker 1: just hit him right between the eyes with a question
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  Speaker 1: about why he should return.
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  Speaker 6: One of the questions we get a lot is, this
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  Speaker 6: is now your third manager in four years, obviously. After
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  Speaker 6: 11 years on the job, people wonder why you should
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  Speaker 6: continue to.
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  Speaker 1: Get a crack at doing this. What do you say
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  Speaker 1: to that?
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  Speaker 3: I say that it's fair that they ask those questions.
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  Speaker 3: I wake up and I look in the mirror every
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  Speaker 3: day trying to figure out why this happened. For the
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  Speaker 3: last five years, we were one of the winningest teams
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  Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball. This year, we stunk, and it
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  Speaker 3: never got on track. And again, that's on me first.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to find solutions. I feel proud of
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  Speaker 3: what we've built organizationally over these years. You know, 11 years,
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  Speaker 3: it's two different tenures that I've had. And in the
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  Speaker 3: last six years, I feel proud of what we've accomplished
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  Speaker 3: on the field, if incomplete. And this year was an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to take that next or final step, and we
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  Speaker 3: just didn't. And if I didn't have a job today,
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  Speaker 3: it'd be just we failed. And again, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: attempt to learn from that failure and lean into what
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  Speaker 3: I think is a great foundation to build on with
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  Speaker 3: homegrown players up the middle, a complete rotation that I
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  Speaker 3: think many in the league would love to have and
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  Speaker 3: just reset our culture and refocus ourselves on what we
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  Speaker 3: need to do to get back to an efficient, clean,
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  Speaker 3: crisp brand of baseball like the Mariners have played for
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  Speaker 3: a number of years.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's Jerry DiPoto yesterday talking about the big question,
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  Speaker 1: whether or not you should return or not. What do
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  Speaker 1: you have to say to that? I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: the thing about Jerry. He delivers a bit of an
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  Speaker 1: unvarnished truth. Yes, he does. And it gets him in
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  Speaker 1: trouble a lot. Yes, it does. And he says things
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  Speaker 1: that he should have thought better about mentioning that in
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  Speaker 1: press conferences. Yesterday, standing up there, he was uncomfortable. There's
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  Speaker 1: no question, especially at the beginning of it. And he
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  Speaker 1: was going to make other people uncomfortable. He plays those
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  Speaker 1: little mind games, like the time in spring training where
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  Speaker 1: he wouldn't sit down in front of me and decided
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  Speaker 1: to stand over me. And I still hit him with
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  Speaker 1: 13 hard-hitting questions. And so, yes, there was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of that yesterday. But him acknowledging that, yeah... We've
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  Speaker 1: had success. People want to act like we are the
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  Speaker 1: worst organization in the sport. When we've had five straight
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  Speaker 1: winning seasons, we just went to the American League Championship Series.
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  Speaker 1: And if not for my bad manager's decision, bad. decision
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  Speaker 1: maybe we would have been in the World Series a
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  Speaker 1: year ago but this year was an absolute total disaster
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  Speaker 1: So your reaction to Jerry just saying it would have
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  Speaker 1: been justified had I been removed as well.
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  Speaker 2: I completely agree with that sentiment. And, you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: been struggling with, OK, do I really want him back?
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  Speaker 2: Do I want him gone? I kind of fall somewhere
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  Speaker 2: in the middle. And I know sports radio, you're never
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  Speaker 2: supposed to fall in the middle. You're supposed to have
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  Speaker 2: a strong opinion one way or the other. But I
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  Speaker 2: definitely do think there are merits to the thought process of, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's been a long time. Um, this is
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  Speaker 2: now his third manager that he, he struggles to get
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  Speaker 2: this team over the top. Um, there's, there's definitely holes
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  Speaker 2: in his game, so to speak, but I also think
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  Speaker 2: it's more of a nuanced conversation than just two playoff
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  Speaker 2: appearances in 11 years. He's had long enough time to go.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, I definitely think his way of answering
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  Speaker 2: that question is kind of how I feel. It definitely
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  Speaker 2: would be justified if it happened. But I still feel
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  Speaker 2: like at this point in time, I am.
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  Speaker 2: At least willing to give him one kind of final
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  Speaker 2: chance to get this right. One more managerial and coaching
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  Speaker 2: staff hire. And then hopefully that's what gets this team
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  Speaker 2: over the top. And I know that's not a super
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  Speaker 2: popular opinion, as you mentioned earlier off the top of
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  Speaker 2: the show. I'm not saying that I completely dismiss anyone
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  Speaker 2: who thinks you should be fired.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I'm just going to say, I mean, there are reasons.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I get that, and if that happens, that happens.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to defend him from the standpoint of
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  Speaker 1: that people think that he's just done nothing but fail
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  Speaker 1: at the job is just completely inaccurate. Five straight winning
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  Speaker 1: seasons before this disaster of a year, seven winning seasons
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  Speaker 1: out of 11. Snapped a long playoff drought that no
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  Speaker 1: other general manager was able to snap. Got us close
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  Speaker 1: to the World Series, closer than any Mariner team has
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  Speaker 1: ever gotten. And you should have been in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of a championship season. contention window with a very young
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  Speaker 1: roster compared to other teams that are in said window,
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  Speaker 1: and yet you had a disastrous year. So here's the
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  Speaker 1: great news for everybody that has had enough of Jerry
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  Speaker 1: DiPoto and can't believe that we're going to do a
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  Speaker 1: 12th year with him. I mean, this is it. And
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  Speaker 1: I know you've heard that before, but if Jerry's saying,
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  Speaker 1: I gave, and he is saying this, I and Justin
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: and John gave Dan and his coaching staff the groceries
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: that should have made a good, tasty meal this year,
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  Speaker 1: and the meal got burned, I am going to blame
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  Speaker 1: Dan and his coaches. And John is on board with me.
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  Speaker 1: And so, as we go into a new year with
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  Speaker 1: a new manager, oh, this is it. This is it.
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  Speaker 1: If you have another... less than division championship season in 2027,
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: which could happen certainly based on the team that we
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  Speaker 1: watched play this last year. But if you have another
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  Speaker 1: season like that, then there's nothing, there's no defense for you. Nope.
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  Speaker 1: I got rid of the manager. We pretty much laid
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  Speaker 1: everything at his feet. Not that we don't like him,
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  Speaker 1: but that our culture took a back step this year,
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  Speaker 1: which I oversee culture. But now I'm I'm telling you
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  Speaker 1: that the roster is fine. And now I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: do something to try to fix the culture. Because I
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  Speaker 1: thought Dan was the fix for the culture. And instead,
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  Speaker 1: what I ended up with was an entire season of
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  Speaker 1: guys not playing with urgency, without focus, lackadaisical at times.
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  Speaker 1: And the result was, I watched a team that kept
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  Speaker 1: expecting it was going to turn around naturally, and it
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  Speaker 1: never did. And no one lit the proper fire under
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  Speaker 1: them to get it going. Here's his comment on the
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  Speaker 1: culture reset that is going to take place going into
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  Speaker 1: next year. Are you resetting the culture?
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  Speaker 6: I think a lot of people have a different definition
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  Speaker 6: of what that may mean. What does that mean to you,
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  Speaker 6: and are there examples of that maybe going awry this
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  Speaker 6: year a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: Our culture needs a reset. This team, without a doubt,
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  Speaker 3: we showed up, again, from 2022 to 2025, and we
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  Speaker 3: had shortcomings. We had flaws, but we played. We were
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: relentless in our strike throwing. We were grinders in the
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  Speaker 3: batter's box. We played buttoned-up, efficient defense defensively. with or
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  Speaker 3: without rangy players. And, and we didn't beat ourselves. That
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  Speaker 3: was Mariners baseball for five years. And, and that wasn't
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  Speaker 3: what we did this year. We, we showed up and
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  Speaker 3: all of those things were well below our standards.
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  Speaker 1: What is culture?
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  Speaker 3: It's, it's the standards you're willing to, to uphold. It's
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  Speaker 3: the belief systems you share. It's what you're willing to tolerate.
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  Speaker 3: And this year we tolerated an environment where we just
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  Speaker 3: didn't live up to our own standards and, And that's
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  Speaker 3: where we need to reset.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry DePoto talking about the culture reset that's going to
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  Speaker 1: take place. I honestly believe I think he pretty much
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  Speaker 1: said it yesterday. And believe me, I have no conversations
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  Speaker 1: with Jerry DePoto off the air ever. I wish that
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  Speaker 1: I did. I wish I had that pipeline for you,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't ever have any conversations with him. off
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  Speaker 1: the air. I mean, I've had a couple, but I
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: had to be in at the ballpark. Yeah. Just very
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: like surface level.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, and, and I said to you in the
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks that I believe this is somebody
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't understand culture. He's never understood its value. He
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't know how to create it. And I think a
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, as he was watching his His
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: clubhouse get torn apart again and watching a good team
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: fail at baseball. He decided to fire Scott service. And
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: as he said yesterday, the Dan Wilson interview has been
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: going on for 35 years within this organization. We felt
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: we knew him. We felt that he was a good
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: candidate to lead. And Anders, my belief is that Jerry
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: DePoto hired Dan Wilson and he is the one that
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: hired Dan Wilson. He confirmed that yesterday. He hired Dan
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Wilson because he thought, man, this is something I'm not
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: very good at. Just like he turned over the offense
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  Speaker 1: to Kevin Seitzer and Edgar Martinez. That's growth, people. He
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: turned the culture over to Dan Wilson and a coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff that is beloved. Perry Hill, Manny Acta, they are
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  Speaker 1: loved by every single player in the organization. And he
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  Speaker 1: thought that was going to fix the culture. It was
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  Speaker 1: a miss. It was a miss on Jerry's part. And Dan,
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  Speaker 1: even though he remained likable all the way to the
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  Speaker 1: bitter end. Yes, he did. He wasn't the leader that
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  Speaker 1: a major league that a group of men require. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: my grandmother was likable. That's the effect Dan Wilson had
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  Speaker 1: on the team. He wasn't the captain. Right. He was
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: your grandma. He gave you a snack when you were hungry,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: even when you weren't. He rubbed your back when you
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: had an owie, you know, bandaged up your knee, blew
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: cool air on your scab. Yeah. That's what Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 1: did when it came to, hey, it's time to play
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  Speaker 1: like a professional. He wasn't that guy. And so here's
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: where I'm going to meet people. I actually think that
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Jerry DePoto should stay because he is a really good
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: creative personnel guy. He drafts well. He knows pitching. He
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: does make creative trades. They don't always work out, but
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: has to make creative trades and has done so. Some
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  Speaker 1: of them have worked out, by the way, that nobody
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: ever points out. Randy Rosarito. But he doesn't understand culture.
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  Speaker 1: If he was just the general manager making the personnel
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: moves and you had a president that understood baseball culture,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: maybe we would have already punched that ticket to the
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: World Series.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: And that's where I think the difference comes. To me,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: that's his biggest flaw. Maybe not specifically the culture, but
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I think he can draft and develop with the best players.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: general managers in Major League Baseball, 100%. Even building a
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Major League roster, I think he's upper echelon at. There
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: are holes in that for sure. But overall, I think
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: building a roster, which is the majority of that role
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: that he is, but it's not the only thing that
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: a president of baseball operations is in charge of. You're
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: in charge of, as you mentioned, setting the culture.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: having some sort of leadership qualities. While you're not there
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: on a day-to-day basis, you're the guy that's leading the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: baseball operations. The president is your name, president of baseball operations.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I think that's something he can definitely improve in. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: think he needs to be the one to set the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: strategy and then have every layer of the hierarchy below
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: him going towards that same goal. It feels like What
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: he tried to do with Dan Wilson, and I think
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: he's learning from it, as you mentioned, is, okay, the
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: stuff I'm not good at, you take care of.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I think the organizations that have the most success are,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: they have the same thought process from the top as
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: everywhere else below them. Sometimes not the owner, but the
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: president to the managerial staff to the players.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: All of them know.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: What the end goal is in terms of how they're
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: trying to win games. And they're all kind of rolling
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the same direction, so to speak, instead of just, oh,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you the roster and you take
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: care of it sort of thing. So I don't know
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: if that's ever going to be something he does. Maybe
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: it is now with this new change.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: But he's going to be absolutely judged on what leader
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: he does hire now.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: You know, so I don't think he is a great leader.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And he's the president. He's supposed to be the leader
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: of the entire organization. I agree. And I think one
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of the aspects about a great leader is, can they recognize?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's okay if you can recognize leadership in others, but
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: he missed on Dan Wilson, and he had an entire
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: coaching staff of grandmas, and nobody was holding players accountable
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: for an entire Major League Baseball season, one in which
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: they were heavily invested and thought they were going to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: win the World Series with. And now he's going to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: have to learn another lesson on the fly about what
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: a true managerial leader looks like. Big time. And we
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: will see who he hires. But this is it. I mean,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I know that people think he's been given way too
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: many chances. I get that. But this is the last chance.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You either take the nucleus. that you say should have
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: gone to the world series this year and win with
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: whoever you hire next season, or there's something wrong with
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the nucleus. And then that absolutely falls on you and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Justin and you have to go.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: All right. Let's find out what's on tap for the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: show today.
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• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Well, so much to get We're not done with the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Jerry Press Conference by a long shot. We'll get into
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that throughout the course of the show today. Major League
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Playoffs start today, and we will spend a little bit
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: of time on it. It's showdown time. Chris Kidd gets
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to come back and do a draft on his very
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: first day. Let's go. Talk about living well.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football bears over the Eagles last night behind
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Case Keenum, 27-7 the final. Gene Steratore is going to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: join us at 8 o'clock today to talk about that
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had to watch from the tent. Andy Dalton
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: throw an interception in the red zone play, plus many others.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: We'll do that at 8 o'clock. We'll play some Factor
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Fiction at 7.35. Seahawks are dealing with their first loss
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: in nine months. I mean, think about that. That's crazy.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, after his last loss, could have impregnated his wife,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: had a baby, called him victory, and then lost again.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: That's how long it's been since the Seahawks have lost
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: a football game. So how are they going to deal
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: with it? We'll ask Greg Bell today at 7.05. College
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: football week number five begins this week. UW will go
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: on the road for the first time this year at USC.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: We'll ask Rick Neuheisel about it at 9 o'clock. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the National Hockey League season starts tonight. That's right. They
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: start tonight. The first game at 2 o'clock. It will
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: be the Carolina Hurricanes hosting the Florida Hurricanes. Panthers. Five
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: games on the slate for this evening. The Kraken will
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: not play until Thursday and even then on the road
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: at Calgary, which of course we will ramp up to
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: as the week goes along. Normally this is whenever it
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: fits you debuts, but he won't be today. We're going
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: to save him for game day on Thursday. But coming
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: up on our show today, a lot on Jerry and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And certainly a lot of our signature guests as well
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: during the fall campaign. But coming up next, it's a
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: brand new feature. And we're really locking it in, too.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: A thirst, a thirst, a thirst for Anders Hurst comes
• 23:39
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• 23:43
  Speaker 1: songs that remind you of the bad times. Oh, wow.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: That's what you want. Okay. Okay. Well, let's get started here.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Both types of songs. Yeah, yeah. We'll have both types
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: of statements here that you guys can judge. All right,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: let's go. Moving on. Okay, starting off with Mariners. Yeah.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I actually don't.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Think, and this is something that Jerry DiPoto mentioned yesterday,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that previous managerial experience is preferred in their next hire.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I actually don't think previous managerial experience is a necessity.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Get the guy.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: who will implement the desired strategy but with his own
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: gut feel. There are plenty of examples of first-time managers.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: In fact, more than half of the current playoff teams
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: have first-time managers in their role right now. So I
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: don't think it's an absolute necessity to find someone who
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: has managerial experience first. I'm not saying you need to
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: look for someone who doesn't have it, obviously, but I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: don't think that should be the determining factor.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I would say a couple of things in response
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to that. I think that's the way he felt the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: first time. And people hate him for it. Why did
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you hire somebody without managerial experience? You've now hired two
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: people without managerial experience. So he's already gone down that road,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and it's not satisfying his fan base, and it's not
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: getting you to the World Series. I would disagree with
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you a little bit. I think just so that the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: organization can avoid... that same accusation yeah i actually think
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: he does okay normally i'd agree with you like anybody
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: else but in this particular case because you keep telling
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: us you have the team worthy of going to the
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: world series year after year and you're not getting there
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: i think he actually does need to get somebody with
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: experience not at winning a championship but at at at
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: consistently winning in the major leagues. So I think that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: this organization needs someone with experience.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think the shortcoming, at least for me,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: whenever I hear Dan Wilson didn't have... experience was not
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the fact that he didn't wasn't a manager at the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: major league level but the fact that he didn't have
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: much of any coaching experience whatsoever at the major league
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: level so there is a balance.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah there are stories that he was overwhelmed had to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: be taught analytics the modern game on the fly and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: he actually got i mean i gave him a c
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: minus at the end of last year right where they
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: almost went to the world series that was my grade
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: for dan wilson for the season And then he got
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: worse this year. He looked overwhelmed, as many people have said.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Many people that have been around baseball, Major League Baseball,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a lot longer than me and a lot longer than
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the people listening right now that just want Jerry out.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Well, in the Stephen Votes of the world, or even
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the Chris Negron, a guy that was already here, there's
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: many different options out there that hadn't for Stephen Votes yet.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: his case before he was now the manager at Cleveland,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: but haven't been a manager at the major league level,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: but they know all of the intricacies of how this
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: stuff works, at least as a bench coach or a
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: base coach or something like that versus the Dan Wilson has.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: None of that. Well, Stephen Vogt played the modern-day game. Exactly.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: He played. I mean, he was removed from Major League
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: playing days like by a year when he started coaching,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: where Dan's a whole generation removed from it. And obviously
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to how it works. Right, right.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: So I concede a little bit that I think, yes,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: for more than anything else, for just not repeating the
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: same mistake that you had last time.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I think that would make a lot of sense. All right. Um.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Continue on the Mariners front. I think now I mentioned
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: in our first segment that there are definite arguments to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: to say that Jerry DePoto should be let go. I
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: don't think the whole two playoff appearances in 11 years
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: argument is not the first place that you should go.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: If you want to argue that Jerry DePoto should be fired. Basically,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: he was he tried to win with the team that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: was given to him after the forensic years. Didn't work.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Goes through the rebuild. COVID, kind of obviously a lost season.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Then you start your window after that. And now you're
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: kind of at a crossroads, an influx of what's going
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: to go next, right? You could continue the window that
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: you have now.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just mentioning that there are plenty of other, I think,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: more valid arguments to say that Jerry DePoto should be
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: let go of other than just saying two playoff appearances
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: in 11 years?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I think Jerry DePoto's biggest problem is, and I've said
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: this for 10 years, he's already doing his Oprah Winfrey
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: on the couch interview about how he changed baseball. And
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I think that he's had a lot of moments of
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: self-awareness and that includes with, he was too involved with
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the offense and he had to watch the offense fail
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: after a number of years. And then he handed it over,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: thought he had it fixed. And now all of a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: sudden it's not fixed. We have a disastrous offensive year.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And I think we've already discussed this morning, the I
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: don't think he understands culture. I don't think that he
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: quite understands a championship culture and the type of leader
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to hire to try to finish this thing off. So
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I think he does have holes in his game, but
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. He took over a veteran team who
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: he had contracts he couldn't move. He tried to win
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: with them, came very close. They came close to winning
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: making the playoffs a couple of times if we would
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: add an expanded playoff back then he would have yep
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: uh and then he did a the judgment is on
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the last six years, and he's won five, had five
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: winning seasons in the last six years, two playoff appearances.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Not exactly what we want. Obviously hasn't gotten to the championship,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: which is the goal, but hasn't been a failure either.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: This year was a failure.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but my point in saying that is that shouldn't
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: be the first thing. If you want Jerry gone, fine.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely entitled to that opinion. I even think there
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: are many valid reasons why. I don't think Two playoff
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: appearances in 11 years is one of them. Not the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: best one.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: There's plenty of other, as we mentioned, the shortcomings earlier
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: in the last segment. Okay, moving on a little bit.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Seahawks. They need.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, I shouldn't say this as... as strongly as I'm
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: about to, but it's as close to a must win
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: this early in the season based off of expectations against
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the Chargers.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Jeez. Whoa.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Just looking at the rest of your kind of the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: four weeks after the Chargers game, Niners, Broncos, Chiefs, Bears.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: That's a gauntlet right there.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And if you find yourself, you know, at or barely
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: above 500 at that point, considering how the Niners are going,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: even with all of their injuries, I get it. It's,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it's early, but with football, the, all these games are
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: just can swing a season, uh, in one way or another.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: So this is a big opportunity on Sunday against the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: chargers to kind of get one of those extra wins
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: before you go through that four week stretch. Um, All
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: four of those teams are arguably four of the six
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: best teams in football besides the Seahawks. That's going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: be a big stretch for them, and they need to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: have as many wins on the board before that.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't go with you there. I can't say
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: look at this in any way as a must win,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: but I will at least meet you here. Now that
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you've lost to the Commanders, now that you've just kicked
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: a game that everybody had as a W on their
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: pocket schedule, even people in the Commanders had that as
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: an L on their pocket schedule. Now all of a sudden,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: oh boy. If you want to be the team that
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you were a year ago, now you kind of, with
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, have to remind yourself that, you know, suddenly
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like a. Well, there's a W. Exactly.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Against the Chargers. Now it suddenly feels like, oh, well,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: this team just proved to all of us that any
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: given Sunday they can lose to anybody in this league.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden I got to worry.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I got to sweat the desperate Chargers at home this week. Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: That's not what I was expecting to feel like. on
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the Tuesday before that game. Yeah, I do.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And the Chargers are going to be desperate for their
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: first win as well. So there's definitely an element of, OK,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: figure this out, guys, because like I said, those four
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: weeks after I don't doubt the Seahawks at any point
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that they're going to be successful. But that is a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: tough four week stretch. So I think it's as close
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to a must win against the Chargers at home on
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: October 4th as you can get.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: All right. Do you feel quenched, kid? Do you feel
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: like your thirst has been quenched by Anders' segment here today?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: A little dehydrated on the Seahawks point. Oh, wow. Other
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: than that. Wow. Okay. I said a little. If you
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: go into the Niners game 3-2, let me ask you this. Oh, sorry, 2-2?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: You said the Bears.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Was that before or after they won last night? I
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: thought they were a good team even before last night.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I think an IV after that one.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Just go ahead now. You think so? Yeah. All right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: All right. I'm not a big must-win guy in the
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: first third of the season. I blame Hugh.
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: He's talked me too much into it's one game at
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: a time, kid. I can't look three games ahead. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: got to start with this game. I'm putting in the
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: perspective of this division is really good. I think the
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: Seahawks are really good.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: I think they just had a– I think they talked
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: about it last year when they lost to the Bucs.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's fair. They had the same scenario.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: DB's out. They lost. Everyone's like, oh, my goodness. I'm
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: sure Anderson had that same take.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. But what was the game after the Bucs?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I have to go back and look.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: But what if they lost that game? I think that
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: would have made their season a little bit different.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe not completely. I'm just going to trust that the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Commanders was a blip. I hope so. And look, I mean,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you had some other things that were nice and tasty.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: It's just that one was like eating a cracker wrapped
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in a sponge. That's all. That's all. No big deal.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: All right. Jesus. I guess I can't quench you every time.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Empty the notebook next on KJR. The Colts looked and
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the Bills looked. Totally agree. But I still don't like them.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I don't either. Gray uniforms don't work in the National
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Football League. Work great for baseball. Hello, Mariners. It's embarrassing
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: that you don't have a gray uniform. Please bring them back.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: But it does not work in football. A.J. Barner, we
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: didn't get to discuss him much yesterday, was more involved,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and that's exactly how I want to see it. I think, Anders,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I really do. I'm not worried about how many catches
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Cooper Cupp and Rashid Shaheed get. I think that they're
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: good complimentary pieces to this passing game. But when you
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: have the most uncoverable wide receiver in the National Football League,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: get him the ball 10 times a game. And then
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I think A.J. Barner could be the second option in
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: this offense. And I think I can live in that
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: world right there. I absolutely agree.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And it's good to see they kind of started to
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: get him more involved in the second game. Maybe it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: a Sam Darnold Sorry, the third game. Maybe it's a
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold connection sort of thing, right? He kind of
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: has that chemistry with him. I hope that continues moving
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: forward because, I mean, maybe you can just throw a
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: JSN every time, but it would be nice if you
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: couldn't or didn't have to, I should say.
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  Speaker 1: Also empty in the notebook, JSN. I'm going to go
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: ahead and say it. I'm going to say it to
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  Speaker 1: the two young people on the show. JSN is the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: best wide receiver of your lifetime. Hear me? Wow. I
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: just had to take a second to take that in.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the best receiver I've ever seen. That's Jerry Rice.
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  Speaker 1: But you guys didn't get to see Jerry Rice in
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  Speaker 1: your prime. You just have to hear rumors of his legend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's true. JS over Larry Fitzgerald over Jamar Chase. Calvin Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: Over Justin Jefferson over Calvin Johnson. JSN is the best
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver of your life. Antonio Brown? Yeah. I got
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: to take sweet feet. I know Antonio's crazy. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not trying to make light of what he's doing
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  Speaker 5: today because he does a lot of dumb stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But A, B, man. Tony, oh my goodness. We're going
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: to see. We're going to see. Yes, we'll see. I'm
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: saying like right now, the projection of where he's going
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and the numbers he's going to put up. I mean,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he put up like a historic season last year and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: he's better this year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think if this kind of path continues, obviously, for JSN,
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  Speaker 2: which it seems like it's very sustainable considering how well
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: he's playing, I think that could be a fair statement.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: The other thing I noticed about wide receivers, man, if
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin would have had a successfully good quarterback, or consistently,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I should say, good quarterback to play with his entire career,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy that might have been a
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. He is so good. He's really good.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And he proved it on Sunday. Sonny Stiles is a standout,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: meaning he stands out. When you watch a football game,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that guy is like a Ferris wheel in a cornfield.
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  Speaker 1: You see him everywhere. He's going to be special, I think,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: before it's all said and done. And then finally, from
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the Empty the Notebook segment, Ernest Jones caught trying to
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: cover 5'11, 195-pound Antonio Williams, who runs a 4'4, 40
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: down the field. was an indication of how often Mariota
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and Blah, the offensive coordinator for the Commanders, actually got
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: one over on Mike McDonald on Sunday, which we just
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: never see anymore. You made the reference in the last segment, Kit.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I hope that game is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers game.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I can allow Mike McDonald and the Seahawks in this
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: era that one game that doesn't make sense, and I'm
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: hoping that That was the game, and we put it
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: behind us. But there were a lot of things about
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: that game that just did not make sense. It just
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: did not look like Seahawks football, and that was one
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: of them. For Mike McDonald to get caught with his
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: middle linebacker covering a 4-4 wide receiver 40 yards down
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  Speaker 1: the field, and the only reason they didn't score on
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: that was because he dropped the football. Just very uncharacteristic.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just going to chalk this game up to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers game from a year ago, and let's move
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: on from it. All right, Greg Bell will join us next,
• 38:37
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