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Southern Ohio Technical Institute - HVAC Careers · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Eight o five here fifty five KERCD talk station. It's
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  Speaker 1: get here from Jay ratlif Our. iHeart edy aviation experts.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoyable conversation with that every week, at least that's my perception.
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  Speaker 1: I love talking to him. But in the meantime, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna love talk having this conversation because I am concerned
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  Speaker 1: about AI, and I know there's a concern from people
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  Speaker 1: out there that artificial intelligence might eliminate their job. That's
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate concern. Some people are already losing their jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Troubles on the phone. He's with the Southern Ohio
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  Speaker 1: Technical Institute. Mike, good to have you on the show
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  Speaker 1: this morning. Welcome sir. And will artificial intelligence remove HVAC
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  Speaker 1: text from the job from their jobs?
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  Speaker 3: Mike, No, I don't think that's gonna happen into very
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  Speaker 3: your future are ever at all. You know, we're always
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  Speaker 3: gonna need that cold can of Coca colaon. We're always
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  Speaker 3: gonna need to be kept warm when it's zero outside.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna be need to be kept cool when it's
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  Speaker 3: ninety outside.
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  Speaker 2: Amen, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And the trades are a great option. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: do you want to do spend two hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: four years, get a woke degree that no one wants
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  Speaker 1: to hire you for that might be eliminated by AI,
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  Speaker 1: or do you want to go to work? I guess
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  Speaker 1: in as short as ten weeks, Mike, I mean in
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  Speaker 1: a career, in ten weeks. Have I got the time
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  Speaker 1: frame rate to learn how to be an HVAC tech?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean it's ten weeks. It's ten weeks. We
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  Speaker 3: give you the basic essentials that you need to get
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  Speaker 3: started in the trades, and you get all your certifications
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  Speaker 3: you need to be able to work in the HVAC industry.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a.
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  Speaker 3: Very very important thing. We basically we can take you
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  Speaker 3: from a classroom to pay check in ten weeks.
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  Speaker 1: That's truly amazing, not four years, ten weeks, and not
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  Speaker 1: with a couple hundred thousand dollars even one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars in debt for a four year degree if you
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  Speaker 1: had to pay out a pocket and I know they're
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  Speaker 1: financing options. I mean, we can dive onto this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, but tuition is very reasonable for a ten
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  Speaker 1: week program. Sixty five hundred bucks. Have I got that right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is sixty five hundred dollars, that is correct.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, Bryan, the certifications that you get
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  Speaker 3: in that ten week program are more aggressive and you
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  Speaker 3: get actually five certifications in the ten weeks, where a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the other six hundred dollar programs only give
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  Speaker 3: you two certifications.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So you're more qualified to get one of the
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  Speaker 1: open jobs that are out in the world than someone
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  Speaker 1: who took the longer program. And question Mike, and I
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  Speaker 1: think I know the answer this one because I'm at
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  Speaker 1: your website, which my listeners can find at s otih
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  Speaker 1: HVAC so technical Uit, so ot I, sodh HVAC dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Are there job opportunities out there for folks in the
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  Speaker 1: hva C business there?
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  Speaker 2: Mike, Oh, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: It's growing so fast, it's just unbelievable. You know, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna need We're going to be facing a shortage of
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  Speaker 3: around one hundred thousand technics is coming up here in
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  Speaker 3: the next five to six years, okay, and you know
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  Speaker 3: we just don't have.
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  Speaker 2: Those technicians to uh to fill the spaces. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: We're having what we call in the industry. A uh,
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  Speaker 3: the silver tsunami. That means all the silver haired guys
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  Speaker 3: like myself and you're the other guys that are in
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  Speaker 3: their fifties and going in their sixties, they're retiring, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and there's nobody do to take their place. We need
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  Speaker 3: these young people, We need this young blood in there
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  Speaker 3: and and pitching in and taking over.
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  Speaker 1: Well. Given the demand for HVAC career opportunities out in
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  Speaker 1: the world, the fact that there is a great opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to get employment and there aren't enough bodies there to
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  Speaker 1: to take those jobs, there might sounds to me like
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity for an increase in pay might exist. The
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  Speaker 1: laws of economics suggest supply and demand. If there's a
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  Speaker 1: limited supply, then the money might even get better than
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  Speaker 1: it already is.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's uh, you know, I'm glad you brought that up.
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  Speaker 2: Mind.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the the the money in the trades have
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  Speaker 3: really gone up in the past few years, and the
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  Speaker 3: opportunities okay, that you can do in the trades have
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  Speaker 3: gone up simply because the HVAC industry, the technology that's
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  Speaker 3: going into the equipment is course is a lot more advanced.
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  Speaker 2: So the skill level of these young technicians.
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  Speaker 3: Coming into the field, they have to become more advanced,
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  Speaker 3: and we have to training to do that. Therefore, it's
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  Speaker 3: like a you know, a regular family doctor or a
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  Speaker 3: heart surgeon. Okay, we have to specialize them and get
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  Speaker 3: them prepared for this new equipment that's coming in in
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  Speaker 3: this new technology.
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  Speaker 1: Well it is indeed new equiping, new technology. I've had
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  Speaker 1: a geothermal system now for all maybe ten years, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just basically a computer. I opened that thing up
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  Speaker 1: and it's just all electronics in there. So you'll train
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  Speaker 1: folks how to work on that kind of thing. And
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the way everything's going, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well that and you know, we got all
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  Speaker 3: the new stuff that's coming in and all the new
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  Speaker 3: technology is really becoming a lot more advanced. For example,
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  Speaker 3: you know the new heat bumps that are out on
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  Speaker 3: the market. A few of those things they're capable of
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  Speaker 3: extracting heat down in minus ten now, so that you
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  Speaker 3: didn't have that technology ten to fifteen years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what kind of money are we talking about, big
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  Speaker 1: elephant in the room is okay, sounds good jobs there,
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  Speaker 1: it's a quick course. I can get on my feet
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  Speaker 1: and earning money in a very short period of time.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of money were talking about, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: We're usually talking entry level, why they're being trained, around
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  Speaker 4: the twenty dollars an hour level while they're being trained,
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  Speaker 4: or eight hundred dollars a week, or if you want
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  Speaker 4: to look at it on an annual basis, about forty
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  Speaker 4: thousand a year while you're being trained. That's a base salary,
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  Speaker 4: not including your overtime. So I would say by the
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  Speaker 4: time you would lead, you actually get settled into your job,
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  Speaker 4: trained and doing what you need to be and they
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  Speaker 4: can actually the company that you're working for, can actually
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  Speaker 4: start doing their charge out timed against you. You should
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  Speaker 4: be up to the seventy five eighty thousand dollars a year,
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  Speaker 4: I mean somewhere in the next three to five.
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  Speaker 1: Years, Mike. Joe Strecker is filling out the application now,
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  Speaker 1: he said, but that's eighty grand, you know, for ten
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  Speaker 1: weeks of education, and no doubt. I'm sorry, there's no
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  Speaker 1: downside risk on this one. What's it like being in
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  Speaker 1: the HVAC trade on a day to day basis, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what are you kind of doing day to day?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm glad you brought that up and
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  Speaker 3: I want to bring another thing. I just bring it
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  Speaker 3: to your attention real quick, Bryd. You know, we're actually
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  Speaker 3: celebrating what we call a National Skilled Trades Day, which
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  Speaker 3: was yesterday. The skilled trades have been basically swept under
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  Speaker 3: the rug and we haven't been It hasn't been pitched
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  Speaker 3: by the high school counselors.
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  Speaker 2: Or any name. But let me tell you.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the skilled trades, okay, basically keep everything all
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  Speaker 3: the all the every aspect of the building facets, every
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  Speaker 3: aspect of.
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  Speaker 2: The building industry.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, everything from maintenance to new construction.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, we keep.
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  Speaker 3: Everything hitting on a from keeping hitting on all eight
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  Speaker 3: I should say, yeah, we keep your food cold, we
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  Speaker 3: keep your environment clean and uh and your air clean
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  Speaker 3: to breathe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it just goes on and on and on.
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  Speaker 3: So we're finally getting recognized, okay that you know, Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 3: this is a very viable trade. And and now the
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  Speaker 3: all the not just the hv A C trade, all
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  Speaker 3: of them, the plumbers, the electricians, Listen, we've been swept
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  Speaker 3: under the rug for a long time and it's about
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  Speaker 3: time you know that everybody understands that, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: are an essential part of this society too. Okay, we
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  Speaker 3: need to be recognized and uh and I think that's
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  Speaker 3: that's all making a full circle now.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, Amen. You know absolutely there's no argument against that
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  Speaker 1: at all. And we rely on so many people during
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  Speaker 1: this type of work, and I think so many people
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  Speaker 1: take it for granted. You know, I'm refrigerators broke and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do and just call somebody. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're calling somebody who's keeping the world running. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the trades and the jobs that aren't going to be eliminated.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Is this commercial as well as residential that you train
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  Speaker 1: people for, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, what we do is we do we really hit
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  Speaker 3: on a couple of key things. The refrigeration cycle, temperature
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  Speaker 3: pressure relationships. We hit heavy on that so they understand
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  Speaker 3: what they're doing, and then we also hit heavy on electrical.
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  Speaker 3: Those two key things is what our school really zero
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  Speaker 3: ends on, zero ends on because that is what they need,
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  Speaker 3: the boots on the ground that they need to really
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  Speaker 3: make their career grow, whether they decide to go with
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  Speaker 3: install part of it or whether they decide to go
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  Speaker 3: with the servicing end of it. We given the boots
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  Speaker 3: on the ground train they need to get started, and
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  Speaker 3: of course the certifications they need so.
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  Speaker 1: You have the core information you need. And then presumably
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  Speaker 1: if they if a person graduates from from the Southern
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  Speaker 1: Ohio I'm sorry, I stumbled here, Southern Technical Institute, they
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  Speaker 1: would go to let's say, a commercial manufacturer, a commercial
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  Speaker 1: HVAC and that's where they would learn the specific skills
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  Speaker 1: for that particular company, like a journeyman apprentice kind of relationship.
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  Speaker 1: They get the extra skills, the icing on the cake
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  Speaker 1: when they're on the ground, working and earning.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Every company is different, okay, Every company has a different
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  Speaker 3: job approach. So they they would like to they like
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  Speaker 3: to get these guys okay, out of our school that
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  Speaker 3: are all licensed, they all have their certifications in need,
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  Speaker 3: and they like to break them in and train them, okay,
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  Speaker 3: to be applicable to their company and their job approach.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking the reason, I guess kind of
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  Speaker 1: the reason I asked that I was involved in a
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  Speaker 1: litigation involving a very very large food manufacturer was a
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  Speaker 1: Kannager facility out Nebraska, and it had an anhydrous ammonia
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  Speaker 1: refrigeration system that blew up. So obviously they need help
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  Speaker 1: fixing that thing. But that's a that is a horse
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  Speaker 1: of a different color. Those Anhyder's ammonia systems.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, let me tell you something. I can go way back.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, I've been doing this since nineteen seventy one
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  Speaker 3: seventy two.
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  Speaker 2: But I went to work.
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  Speaker 3: I did work for a company in the local PIPI Resunion, L. J. Quinn,
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  Speaker 3: back in the late seventies, and we worked on a
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  Speaker 3: few of those ammonium systems, and I'm here to tell
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  Speaker 3: you when those spring of league, okay, it clears it
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  Speaker 3: out of We could always tell how serious it was
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  Speaker 3: by the For an example, one of the whole companies
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  Speaker 3: here was Hut and Bowner meets and we got over there.
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  Speaker 3: They had that old frack commonia system in there, and
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  Speaker 3: when by the time we got there, all the help
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  Speaker 3: was out in.
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  Speaker 2: The parking lot. Yeah, okay, it clears you how quick?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it does. And we'll also ruin all the product
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  Speaker 1: in the refrigerator facilities, notably like a one point five
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  Speaker 1: pounds of mint row it out absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, as bad as it stinks, Brian, you
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  Speaker 3: know it's not the the aquamoni and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't hurt the actually it dissolves into the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's bad. It's a bad one, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they need experts that know the HVAC world
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  Speaker 1: and the experience and have it. You start at the
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  Speaker 1: Southern Ohio Technical Institute sod dosh eight dot hvac dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Just Trekker will add the link to your site up
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  Speaker 1: on my blog page fifty five Carsey dot com. There's
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  Speaker 1: opportunities out there and great pay and you know, I
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  Speaker 1: still reel of the fact that you're ready to hit
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  Speaker 1: the ground working in ten weeks. That's just phenomenal for
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  Speaker 1: the lo low price of sixty five. And I understand
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  Speaker 1: you can get help with paying the tuition costs.
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  Speaker 2: Yes you can. Yeah, we do have We do have.
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  Speaker 3: In house financing, okay that we have at school. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, you can basically come in and you can
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  Speaker 3: make a reasonable down payment if you don't have it all,
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  Speaker 3: and we can actually over two year period and you
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  Speaker 3: can finish off you're dead and it's usually it's under
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty bucks.
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  Speaker 1: A month, fantastic, and you'll be working so you have
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  Speaker 1: money to make the payment. Back to the Southern Ohio
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  Speaker 1: Technical Institute. Mike Trible as there is no bad news
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  Speaker 1: in our conversation, and I know that the trades are
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  Speaker 1: in desperate need of young people. Don't go to college,
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  Speaker 1: get in the trades, enjoy life, start working and you'll
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  Speaker 1: have a career and it'll serve you well throughout your life.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Trible, thanks for the great work you're doing over there,
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  Speaker 1: the people you're employing, and I'll hope that some of
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  Speaker 1: my listeners pass the information along to the young people
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  Speaker 1: out there and you get the phone ringing today.
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  Speaker 3: Mike, Yeah, absolutely, thank you so much, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: that everybody is coming on board with the trades, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we look forward to getting a lot of young people
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  Speaker 3: out there, and Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, I know you do.
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  Speaker 1: Mike. Thanks again, we'll talk again down the road. Take
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  Speaker 1: care and have a wonderful weekend. Eight nineteen at fifty
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