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Amazing Story With Brilliant Character The Brat And The Bullfighter From Erin Omalley · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 1: Now, what part of the nation are you inside these
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Speaker 1: days when you're just waking.
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Speaker 2: Up outside of Seattle?
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm from Billings, So I mean that
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Speaker 1: is so much my backyard, that whole entire area up there.
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Speaker 2: Hell yeah years now, thirteen years, I guess, yeah, love
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Speaker 2: it and see that.
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Speaker 1: And you're in such a part of the area where
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Speaker 1: a lot of people across the country don't understand the
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Speaker 1: impact of the Cascade Mountains just outside of Seattle, and kidding,
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Speaker 1: everything beautiful out there is because of those those cascades,
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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, I just got to go there
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Speaker 1: just to respect those mountains.
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Speaker 2: That's true. Man, I love the mountains. I just I
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Speaker 2: don't know, but I also love being close to the water.
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Speaker 2: So you get the best best of both worlds.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're doing something here that I'm just so
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Speaker 1: proud of you for doing, and that is the connection
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Speaker 1: between animals and humans, and especially with horses, because we
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Speaker 1: had a ranch down there in Ranchester, Wyoming, and just
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Speaker 1: horses have been such a major part of what we do.
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Speaker 1: And then to read about the brat and the bullfighter,
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Speaker 1: it's just it's like there's so much anybody who has
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Speaker 1: been associated with horses, You're going to understand this story
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Speaker 1: in such a great creative way.
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Speaker 2: Oh I love hearing that, and I loved I Like
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Speaker 2: when I found out you were like a horseman, I
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Speaker 2: was like, oh man, I'm all about meeting him. I
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Speaker 2: just want to suck to him. You can probably talk
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Speaker 2: a day.
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Speaker 1: Well. It's one of those things where like even even
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Speaker 1: when the horse Whisperer came out, I'm going, what what
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Speaker 1: are you talking about? I mean, every time we go
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Speaker 1: in there just to saddle up or something like that,
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Speaker 1: that moment is happening it's not something that Hollywood is generating.
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Speaker 1: These these connections with horses are happening all the day time.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's true, But I think that's a part
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Speaker 2: that's still to me. Part of the reason I wrote
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Speaker 2: this is that I don't see in an overall general
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Speaker 2: sense that that many people are having the same kind
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Speaker 2: of connection that I know you're talking about, Like you
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Speaker 2: go and it's magic, and you're there and and and
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Speaker 2: you're listening to them, you're communicating with them, whereas I
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Speaker 2: do still see some people they just kind of come
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Speaker 2: into a barn, they saddle up, they were at them hard,
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Speaker 2: they put them away wet, and they don't take that
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Speaker 2: time to just form a relationship or a bond. That partnership.
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Speaker 1: Well, you definitely bring that out. You're absolutely right about
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Speaker 1: that bond, because I'll never forget. I was out there
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Speaker 1: in the fields of Ranchester, and I was on Tiny
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Speaker 1: and and and I just can't I couldn't figure out
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Speaker 1: why Tiny wasn't wasn't moving forward. I could not see
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Speaker 1: in the tall grass of Wyoming, and and what what
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Speaker 1: Tiny saw was a dang snake and and and and
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Speaker 1: so so therefore, even though we came to an abrupt hault,
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Speaker 1: and I felt like I was gonna go flying over
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Speaker 1: Tiny's head. Oh my god. But but see that changed
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Speaker 1: my whole entire landscape of relationships with horses because of
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Speaker 1: that moment.
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Speaker 2: Oh did you start to look at the world in
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Speaker 2: a different way? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Different way?
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Speaker 2: That's my whole thing. Yeah, I'm like, they see the
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Speaker 2: world in a completely different way, So maybe I need
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Speaker 2: to get into that. Yeah, I mean the mindset that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, even the haystacks and everything like that. Everything changed
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Speaker 1: from that moment forward, because all of a sudden, I
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Speaker 1: started looking at everything and just and not just my thing.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's exactly because they notice everything. They notice
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Speaker 2: everything makes you look at the world in a different way.
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Speaker 2: It makes you kind of react in a different way,
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Speaker 2: appreciate them in a different way. And it also kind
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Speaker 2: of so great though, too, that you grew up in
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Speaker 2: Wyoming and you're riding horse named What kind of worse
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Speaker 2: was this? I gotta know. Was it a cour door,
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Speaker 2: It was.
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Speaker 1: A work well, you know, this is the way we
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Speaker 1: looked at it all the time. It was a workhorse.
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Speaker 1: Tiny knew exactly what Tiny needed to do. We had
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Speaker 1: to get those cattle out there into the field and
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Speaker 1: we sometimes there were times we had to go up
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Speaker 1: into Lodge grass Care, you know, taking those cattle up there,
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Speaker 1: because we needed to get those cattle into those open
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Speaker 1: fields for the summer months and then bring them on
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Speaker 1: back home.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, what you're talking about is like that
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Speaker 2: sounds so dreamy. I mean so much hard work, don't
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Speaker 2: get me wrong, but just to be out there and
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Speaker 2: nature like that?
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Speaker 1: How long did you do that for my childhood? And
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Speaker 1: then of course, you know, once I turned eighteen, it
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Speaker 1: was like, I gotta go do radio. I'm so sorry,
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Speaker 1: I've got to go to the big city. And I have.
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Speaker 1: Even today, people will still call me that. You know
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Speaker 1: that you got that city slicker kind of attitude. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to you it was only Billings, Montana. Trust me,
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Speaker 1: it's not a city slicker attitude.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, I love that. What's your favorite thing about
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Speaker 2: a horse?
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Speaker 1: Uh? The fact that I can get really super close
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Speaker 1: up to their eyes and just sit there and look
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Speaker 1: at them and just feel like I've got the world's
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Speaker 1: greatest friend inside my heart. I am, And you know
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Speaker 1: I'll do that even with my dogs. Is that I'll
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Speaker 1: sit there and get so close to them. But I
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Speaker 1: swear to you, I couldn't have done it if it
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Speaker 1: wasn't for being out there. And even Pam Stone, the comedian,
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Speaker 1: I mean when she invited us to her horse farm
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Speaker 1: here in the Carolinas. I mean, the first thing that
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Speaker 1: I do is I walk in there and I put
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Speaker 1: my face up against the horse. It's because it's just
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Speaker 1: it's so natural for me to do that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they know you and they let you in.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what she talked. That's exactly what she talked about,
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Speaker 1: was that she was gone, dang, you know, people are
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Speaker 1: usually afraid, and I'm going, no, I don't feel that.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think you are so right. So many
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Speaker 2: people are very afraid of horses. And it's one of
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Speaker 2: those things like but they're the gentlest creature and then
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Speaker 2: the most forgiving creature, like all that they've done for
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Speaker 2: us and all that they continue to do for us.
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Speaker 2: But you know, I guess when you don't grow up
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Speaker 2: with them. They're big and they are powerful and if
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Speaker 2: they wanted to, they could hurt you. Yeah, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: not not everybody gets to have that experience, which is
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Speaker 2: a shame.
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Speaker 1: I think my relationship actually goes to my real father
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Speaker 1: and that and what his job was. And this is
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Speaker 1: the craziest thing I ever heard of before. And I
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Speaker 1: denied my mom so many times, but but the thing is,
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Speaker 1: she goes he used to go out there into the
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Speaker 1: Tongue River. He would get onto a horse that needed
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Speaker 1: to be broke, and he would get on that horse
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Speaker 1: in that river. And I said, that is the most
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Speaker 1: insane thing I've ever heard in my life, but yet
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Speaker 1: it was so true. That's that's exactly how they did
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Speaker 1: it back there in those days.
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Speaker 2: Into the river, so that when he went popping off.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, he at least had a net beneath him.
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Speaker 1: It was water, but it was still in net.
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Speaker 2: I don't ever get ready to go into the lake
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Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah, an air vest. I always ride with
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Speaker 2: an air vest, because I've taken enough tumbles in my life,
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Speaker 2: you know, always with a helmet. And I'm not an inventor,
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Speaker 2: never been one, but yeah, taken enough tumbles that that
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Speaker 2: thing is save saved my butt and my ribs and everything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you think that in writing The Brad and
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Speaker 1: the Bullfighter, that you're serving as an invitation for people
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Speaker 1: to go ahead and maybe take that step toward getting
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Speaker 1: their first ride, or understanding that there is a lot
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Speaker 1: of healing in the human mind, body and soul that
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Speaker 1: can come from just riding a horse.
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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it's a really good question. I think my
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Speaker 2: biggest thing is, like it was always my touchstone and
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Speaker 2: riding it is that I could change one person's perspective
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Speaker 2: on how they view horses and just have a little
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Speaker 2: bit more empathy and a little bit more patience and
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Speaker 2: absolutely encouraging people to get around horses. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: just don't think there's anything more special, But you know,
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Speaker 2: that's my passion. I don't know that it's everyone, but
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Speaker 2: I just wanted them because what you said about you know,
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Speaker 2: there's such a healing power of horses for us as humans.
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Speaker 2: But I also want people to, you know, recognize horses
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Speaker 2: as emotional well being too, Like we take a lot
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Speaker 2: from them, but we got to make sure that we're
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Speaker 2: giving back as good as we get, just because you know,
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Speaker 2: like one of the things too and the reason like
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Speaker 2: I just like I would never intended this city a memoir.
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Speaker 2: I was never it was always going to be a
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Speaker 2: story from a horse's perspective, right, This one particular horse
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Speaker 2: that I felt taught me that, oh you don't know,
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Speaker 2: you know, crap about horses are and really after I
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Speaker 2: you know, had them in my life, my entire life.
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Speaker 2: But just like moving a horse, like I moved as
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Speaker 2: a brat, like an army brat. It was hard, and
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Speaker 2: every time we moved it was more and more difficult.
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Speaker 2: And with a horse, you know, you take them. You know,
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Speaker 2: so many people expect to like, oh, we'll just move them,
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Speaker 2: no big deal. But you you take them away from
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Speaker 2: their herd, their routine. They're every day life and they
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Speaker 2: can't pick up a phone and call their friends and
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Speaker 2: be like, hey, how you doing. And we set them
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Speaker 2: in a new place. It's scary for them. And I said,
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Speaker 2: some people just you know, they bribe and they're like, well,
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Speaker 2: let's go, let's ride, let's do let's it's not a machine.
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Speaker 2: They're not machines.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you speak of they're herd. And right
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Speaker 1: away I have this vision of tiny and when it
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Speaker 1: was time to ride, ride the horses, we'd go out
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Speaker 1: there and the herd would be there. That little monkey
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Speaker 1: would have such an ego until we got out there closer.
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Speaker 1: But it was like, nah, I'm not going in today.
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Speaker 1: I mean just like a dang child, We're good, I'll
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Speaker 1: get you tomorrow maybe maybe if tomorrow ever really comes.
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Speaker 1: But they do they have little egos out there when
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Speaker 1: they're with their with their friends.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they have a whole hierarchy of
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Speaker 2: who's who and who's going to be on the lookout,
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Speaker 2: and you know, they're working together. But I say, I've
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Speaker 2: heard too that like even being top dog, that's a
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Speaker 2: job that no one really wants. They're always hoping for
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Speaker 2: the other one to be, Like you want to be
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Speaker 2: top dog, right, not me, like because I want to
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Speaker 2: kind of take it a little easy. But uh, well,
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Speaker 2: that well, I think you in saying that too. Like
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Speaker 2: that's another thing I would say to people is like
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Speaker 2: go out and watch the hurt, see how they interact,
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Speaker 2: See what their spatial communication is, you know, because it's
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Speaker 2: kind of like spatial communication that physical communication, you know,
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Speaker 2: are just and like for us too acoustic for them
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Speaker 2: comes last because they're not verbal creatures like we are
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Speaker 2: in the same way. Yeah, and I think we forget that.
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Speaker 2: So it's just kind of a place to be a
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Speaker 2: little more quiet too.
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Speaker 1: Please do not move, We're gonna be right back with
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Speaker 1: Aaron O'Malley, the name of the book The Brat and
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Speaker 1: the Bull Fighter. We are back with author Aaron O'Malley.
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Speaker 1: What do you think Artie's voice really sounds like I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean, because you know, inside your imagination and now
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Speaker 1: inside my imagination, it's like, I so bad, I just
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Speaker 1: want to have this this humble voice like Okay, I'm fine,
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Speaker 1: let's go for it. And it's just id am I wrong?
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, let let's do it. Okay, get on,
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Speaker 1: let's go.
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Speaker 2: You know, we've already and there are different horses in
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Speaker 2: this book, and they had different voices in my head
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Speaker 2: for each of them. And I know that's I know,
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Speaker 2: that's all have to primorphizing. But because Already was bred
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Speaker 2: in Brazil, to me, he still has his Portuguese accent,
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Speaker 2: and I find him a little bit. He's a little
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Speaker 2: bit pretentious. He's a little bit like, hey, I know
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty cool. But at the same time, there's a
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Speaker 2: there's a sensitivity to him and a desire to police
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Speaker 2: that's so strong, like I always called him like generous
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Speaker 2: to a fault that it's it's this sort of insecurity
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Speaker 2: that comes through it, like he wants to tell you
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Speaker 2: like he's got it, but he's also like, but I
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Speaker 2: need you to kind of thing. Whereas I have another
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Speaker 2: horse in the story. He's a Freezian from Holland, and
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Speaker 2: but I always pictured him as having sort of like
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Speaker 2: a Santa Cruz surfer voice because he's so chill, like
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Speaker 2: live back. I don't know, he's not weird. Yeah yeah,
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Speaker 2: just like, oh, I will do this all right, shaka.
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Speaker 1: I guess this is part of what I do if
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Speaker 1: it's gonna lead to something later on today. I'm there, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: With you, it was like it's all right, nothing's too
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Speaker 2: I don't get too excited about anything. I don't get
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Speaker 2: too nervous, whereas already has like a more nervous energy
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Speaker 2: because he's kind of like he was always looking for
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Speaker 2: his one person. He kind of had like a lot
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Speaker 2: of different riders, a lot of different trainers, and and
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Speaker 2: as that built up and builds up, he was like,
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Speaker 2: this isn't for me, and he started to get a
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Speaker 2: little dangerous understad a little bit like I don't want
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Speaker 2: to do this anymore, kind of like going up or
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Speaker 2: kicking out or biting and and lord knows why, Like
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Speaker 2: I got to call and it was like me the amateur,
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Speaker 2: like Aaron since today I met him, I was always like,
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Speaker 2: that's the one. I love this horse. You know, if
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Speaker 2: you could take him, if you know I sold him
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Speaker 2: to your for the right Christ, would you want him?
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Speaker 2: I was like, uh yes, thinking, thinking like I'd be
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Speaker 2: like two months in and we'd be like ropping and
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Speaker 2: rolling and like, oh my god, I got this horse's number.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, years years to that trust with him.
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Speaker 1: I love the idea that you give the horses personality.
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it is because you know,
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Speaker 1: we all sit there, even when we're cruising down the
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Speaker 1: highway in any state and we see the horses out
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Speaker 1: in the field, We're sitting there inside our kid like imaginations.
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Speaker 1: We are inventing those voices, we're inventing stories. We all
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Speaker 1: think that we're that Western cowboy from a John Wayne movie.
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Speaker 1: It's we all go through it.
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Speaker 2: I love that you say that. Do you think that's
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Speaker 2: what everybody does, because it's certainly in my mind as
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Speaker 2: a kid growing up, it was just I saw a
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Speaker 2: horse and it was instantly, Yeah, the imagination is going,
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Speaker 2: what's going on with them? How it would be like
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Speaker 2: to be with them.
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Speaker 1: Because I mean, I do I this is the Montana
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Speaker 1: coming out of me. But I do feel disturbed in
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Speaker 1: the fact that when all those Fances became white picket
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Speaker 1: Fance is up there around Livingston and Bozeman. I'm going,
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Speaker 1: that's not the horse's life. I want to go back
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Speaker 1: to the days of the Barbera fans. I understand, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not a good place with the Barbera fans, But
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Speaker 1: there was just something so elegant to see that horse
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Speaker 1: on that side and you could walk beyond that that
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Speaker 1: barbed wire Fance, that horse is going. You made it,
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Speaker 1: you know what you what I'm saying, I mean you
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Speaker 1: could have seen it in their eyes or the wave
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Speaker 1: of their ears. Man, is that you did it. I
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Speaker 1: want you to be my friend.
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Speaker 2: I think they do want to be your friends. They
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Speaker 2: don't want to be your enemy, that's for sure. But
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Speaker 2: I love that you had that experience growing up in
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Speaker 2: the great wide open.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you just gave me another That was
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Speaker 1: like the first time that my wife we went riding
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Speaker 1: in Ranchester, says, well, where's the trail? Where are we going? No? No, no,
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Speaker 1: you could go anywhere. You don't know it's like, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: this is not one of those things you get over
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Speaker 1: there in Jackson, Wyoming. No, no, no, no, you just
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Speaker 1: go just go.
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Speaker 2: How beautiful is that? Because I also feel like, you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm in I'm in Washington and there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: horses around where I live, but it's still like the
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Speaker 2: modern world is encroaching on the horse and riding facilities
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Speaker 2: are going away pasture land. When I'd lived down in California,
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Speaker 2: there used to be so much place to ride, and
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Speaker 2: it just little by little man takes over. And I
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Speaker 2: always think, too, like, how did you get to be here?
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Speaker 2: The West was one on the backs of these creatures,
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Speaker 2: and that you want to take away their land sad
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Speaker 2: well see.
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Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why in studying Native
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Speaker 1: American history, I put a lot of focus on the
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Speaker 1: Crow nation because the crows have always been master horsemen.
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Speaker 1: And it's like, well, man, that's about relationship. There's there's
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Speaker 1: no way in hell that a man would just jump
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Speaker 1: on that horse because they felt it was the thing
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Speaker 1: like they do in movies. Ah ah. There was something
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Speaker 1: that had to happen in that relationship for that moment
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Speaker 1: to happen. In real life.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're like centaurs. Yeah, they're like half man,
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Speaker 2: half horse, they'd just become one. I think that's like when,
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Speaker 2: like when the Romans came to the Iberian Peninsula, which
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Speaker 2: is where the Lucid Haunters are originally from in Pensular
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Speaker 2: Portuguese National Course, is that they saw these people riding
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Speaker 2: and they're like, is that a different creature? Like that
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Speaker 2: just looks like they're just so flu in their movement,
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Speaker 2: And that's when they decided to kind of change their
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Speaker 2: tactics in military too, like less of the ramrod horse
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Speaker 2: and more of this sort of horse that could get
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Speaker 2: around and swoop in and come out and just really
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Speaker 2: flexible and versatile and athletic.
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Speaker 1: Is there a sight of your creative personality that would
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Speaker 1: like to see this go into moving pictures or do
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Speaker 1: you like the idea that you're inside our imaginations?
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a funny. That's not a funny question. It's
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Speaker 2: one I've thought about. And when I had originally was
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Speaker 2: writing this from just the horses perspective before bringing my
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Speaker 2: story into it, I kind of pictured I didn't know
16:38
Speaker 2: how it would be done with real creatures, which would
16:42
Speaker 2: be amazing, but I pictured it sort of as a
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Speaker 2: Pixar that's like, just because you could get the two
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Speaker 2: kind of going and then you could have these you know,
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Speaker 2: the talking sort of in that way. But if there
16:56
Speaker 2: was some way to I mean, I here's the thing too,
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Speaker 2: Like when you talk about movies, like my husband's always like,
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Speaker 2: the only way we can get you to go to
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Speaker 2: a movie is if it has a horse in it,
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Speaker 2: or if it's if it's a war movie, Like I
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Speaker 2: just I'll go to any of them. And I don't know,
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Speaker 2: not that I'm a warmonger, but I just fascinated with
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Speaker 2: those those pieces and the courage and the bravery and
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Speaker 2: all of that sort of thing, the sacrifice, I guess
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Speaker 2: of different wars I heard. I listened to your episode
17:23
Speaker 2: not to digress, but with Anthony Marris who directed Pressure,
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Speaker 2: like those kind of movies, I'm just like, oh, all
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Speaker 2: about it. To bet there weren't any horses in it.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm totally with you on that in the way
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Speaker 1: that we are entering this modern day age of real
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Speaker 1: authentic storytelling. And that's what I love about The Brat
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Speaker 1: and the Bullfighter is that you're making you're putting me
17:43
Speaker 1: right back in there with my father, who always read
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Speaker 1: the Westerns. It was always and I think he did
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Speaker 1: the same thing. If this story does not have a
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Speaker 1: horse in it, I ain't reading it. I'm just not
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Speaker 1: gonna read it. And that's the way my father was.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm very much like your father. I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I just, uh, there's something. So this is
18:04
Speaker 2: another thing. I think about horses, and tell me what
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Speaker 2: you think. And when I'm on a horse, it's instantly
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Speaker 2: time travel yep, Like it is a portal to a
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Speaker 2: different place. Like I'll go out and you know, I'll
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Speaker 2: be in the woods out here, because we do. We're lucky,
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Speaker 2: we can. We do have trails. We got in the woods.
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Speaker 2: And I can be a scout, you know, you know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, or I can be like some English gentry,
18:26
Speaker 2: you know, going off to tea with someone. I just
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Speaker 2: where I could, you know. I'm like, I'll ride my unicorn.
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Speaker 2: Maybe that sounds weird, but it's I can. It just
18:35
Speaker 2: takes me to a different place and a place where
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Speaker 2: I can be and I need to be fully present
18:42
Speaker 2: that I'm looking around and I'm smelling almost like smelling
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Speaker 2: the roses, you know, stop and smell the roses, get
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Speaker 2: on a horse, and that's what you'll do.
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Speaker 1: True, so true. And I always felt like that I
18:51
Speaker 1: was a rock star because I mean, look at Roy
18:54
Speaker 1: Rogers and and all of those people that are on TV.
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Speaker 1: They the music came to them while they were riding horses,
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Speaker 1: and so therefore it must happen to me too. I
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Speaker 1: want that same experience, and so I would always take
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Speaker 1: my guitar on the horse. On Tiny. We'd go out
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Speaker 1: to a haystack in Ranchester and I would stand on
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Speaker 1: that haystack like I was at Woodstock, and I envisioned
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Speaker 1: forty thousand people out there watching me sing, I swear
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Speaker 1: to God. And it was all because of my ride
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Speaker 1: out there on that dang horse.
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Speaker 2: Shut up, are you serious? You ride? I'm picturing you
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Speaker 2: as name Tiny that I picture as like a big giant.
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Speaker 1: Beast, big old white horse man.
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Speaker 2: There you go. White horses, they have a place in
19:32
Speaker 2: my heart. I just love and ego.
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Speaker 1: Oh god, what an ego.
19:38
Speaker 2: But I think too like they for me. I mean,
19:43
Speaker 2: I'm a shy I'm shy, I'm still shy, grew up
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Speaker 2: super shy. But they they made me feel like I
19:50
Speaker 2: could do more Yep. They gave me this empowerment. Like
19:53
Speaker 2: when I get into a tough spot and I'm like,
19:54
Speaker 2: I don't know about this, Like hey, Aaron, you're around
19:57
Speaker 2: these these creatures, you ride these, you know, these beautiful
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Speaker 2: heavenly sight creatures, Like you got this? You can do this?
20:05
Speaker 2: You know? Wow? Are you?
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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about everything
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Speaker 1: you're doing? Because there's gonna be a lot of new
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Speaker 1: horse people that are going to be reaching out to
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Speaker 1: you because they're going to be taking their first step
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Speaker 1: and their first ride because of this book, because you're
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Speaker 1: so honest inside this storyline where you've made them so real.
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Speaker 2: Oh it's so nice to you. Well, I have a website,
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Speaker 2: you know, www Aaron O'Malley author dot com. And if
20:32
Speaker 2: you don't, you know, to find the book. It's sort
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Speaker 2: of everywhere books are sold.
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Speaker 1: I love it. Well, what we need to do is
20:38
Speaker 1: get on the back of a horse and let's go
20:40
Speaker 1: see an outdoor movie. That's what we do out West.
20:42
Speaker 2: We could you imagine I'm that like a car like
20:46
Speaker 2: the drive in you do the ride in?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I can see that hand I
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Speaker 1: am missing out, Yeah, sitting on top of that horse,
20:53
Speaker 1: or actually no, I wouldn't even sit up on top
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Speaker 1: of the horse watching the movie. I would just be
20:56
Speaker 1: sitting on the ground and the horse will be coming
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Speaker 1: up nudging me. Dude, come on, come on, come on,
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Speaker 1: come on, dude, come.
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Speaker 2: On, what would the movie be? That's the question.
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Speaker 1: Blazing, blazing saddles good, Oh God, please come back to
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Speaker 1: this show anytime in the future. The door is always
21:17
Speaker 1: going to be open for you. Kiara.
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate this time. I hope you have a
21:21
Speaker 2: wonderful week.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I love your voice in writing as
21:24
Speaker 1: well as in person. So please come back anytime.
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Speaker 2: All right, take it easy, all right, you'd be brilliant.
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Speaker 2: Okay you do. Hello. Bye,