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Normally Podcast: A New Direction for the FDA · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on normally, so was normalist.
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  Speaker 1: It takes for when the news gets weird. I am
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  Speaker 1: Mary Catherine Ham.
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  Speaker 2: And I am Carol Marco. It's him Mary Catherine.
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  Speaker 3: How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 1: It was good. We had a lovely easter. No one
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  Speaker 1: fought too much over any particular color of egg. And
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  Speaker 1: I got all of my children to look at the
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  Speaker 1: camera ish one time.
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  Speaker 2: So that is a wild success.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I mean the ish is doing some work in
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  Speaker 1: that sentence, but it's a picture of all four of them.
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  Speaker 3: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: We visited the West coast of Florida, the Gulf of America.
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  Speaker 2: It was a birthday weekend trip for me and it
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  Speaker 2: was very, very nice. I had not seen a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the West coast before.
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  Speaker 3: It was really beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: But the best part of my trip was that I
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  Speaker 2: largely disconnected from the Internet. I still used Instagram a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I use it to get recommendations and things,
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  Speaker 2: and Instagram is just a happy place for me. Getting
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  Speaker 2: back on X today has been like returning to a
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  Speaker 2: mental asylum. It's like, oh God, I remember this, this
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  Speaker 2: is the crazy people live.
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  Speaker 1: I did the same thing because you know, it's Easter weekend,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with my family. My kids are on spring break,
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  Speaker 1: and I like to actually hang out with them. And
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  Speaker 1: if you're on the social media too much, you will
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  Speaker 1: tempt yourself into just like getting distracted and floating away
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  Speaker 1: or getting really stressed out. And so I did not
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  Speaker 1: do that. So I have also been sort of picking
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  Speaker 1: up whatever threads are here.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard when I got that reacclimated. You know, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the time, I start thinking like, well, maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'll just stay off for a little bit. But obviously
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  Speaker 2: our jobs and our general world exists on these platforms,
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  Speaker 2: and mostly X for me, I mean, that's the one
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  Speaker 2: that that's the one I have the hardest time quitting
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  Speaker 2: and then the hardest time coming back to.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: It's I really appreciate the breaks. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: if you're listening and you are angry at just what
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  Speaker 2: you saw on your social media feed on any given day,
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  Speaker 2: take a break, you know, just gonna take it off
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  Speaker 2: your Phone's that's kind of my big piece of advice,
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  Speaker 2: because my finger automatically opens it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll notice real fast if you take it off
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  Speaker 1: your phone, how big your addiction is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because when your finger is clicking the blank space.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I always say, like when your fingers like
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  Speaker 3: where did this go?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? It also turns out like you can do a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff in a day if you don't have
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  Speaker 1: your phone. Like my kids and I made a pillowcase
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  Speaker 1: for a throw pillow, and I was like, look at me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a trad wife in one day when I put
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  Speaker 1: my phone down. Amazing, Well, patriotic pillowcase too. Look at
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  Speaker 1: my la.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just supposed a picture of that on X. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let's get into the news. Marty mcquerie is at the
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  Speaker 2: FDA and he is making some changes and I like it.
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  Speaker 2: I like a lot of things that he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he talked to Megan Kelly last week. And I
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  Speaker 1: also enjoyed that a lot of these officials are giving
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  Speaker 1: their first interviews and in depth interviews to non traditional
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  Speaker 1: media sources. So yeah, McCarry has talked to Megan Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: I believe Senator Centuary of State Rubio spoke to Catherine Herridge,
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  Speaker 1: who is independent now his first big interview, Usha Vance,
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  Speaker 1: the second Lady, spoke to the Free Press. So I
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  Speaker 1: like this direction and Marty, I shouldn't call him that
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  Speaker 1: excuse me. The FDA head doctor McCarroll I have been
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  Speaker 1: a fan of for quite some time and was a
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  Speaker 1: you know, reasonable voice during the COVID years, which were
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  Speaker 1: you know, few and far between in the in the
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  Speaker 1: recognized sort of medical expert community, and so I appreciated
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  Speaker 1: him very much. He talked about a couple things. Uh
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  Speaker 1: Number one one of my favorite uh bugaboos, which is
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  Speaker 1: the food pyramid devised by the federal government. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to throw that out the window, which love it. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that they should be dictating and
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  Speaker 1: telling people what is healthy and what is not, But
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  Speaker 1: as long as they're going to do it, they should
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  Speaker 1: maybe not do it so horribly wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe don't get it completely wrong.
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  Speaker 1: So he said, they're going to be uh reevaluating that,
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  Speaker 1: and it won't just be simply an evaluation of oh,
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  Speaker 1: these calories good, these calories whatever, the number of calories in,
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  Speaker 1: the number of calories out. It might actually give you
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  Speaker 1: some nuance about processed foods versus whole foods and what
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  Speaker 1: that means. So I look forward to a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of based nutrition coming to the FDA. So that was
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  Speaker 1: one of his announcements.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, as I was preparing for our conversation, I
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  Speaker 2: was googling kind of what he's been up to. And
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting because a lot of the media outlets are
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  Speaker 2: trying to tie him to, you know, HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy,
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  Speaker 2: And I get that Kennedy has some more controversial views,
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  Speaker 2: but mccuerie, to me, is very much a trustworthy kind
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  Speaker 2: of person. He doesn't say anything KOOKI, he doesn't. He's
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  Speaker 2: a very solid guy. So the fact that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these news outlets, and they've been doing this to him,
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  Speaker 2: obviously since COVID, have been trying to turn him into
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  Speaker 2: a questionable character, is appalling because he is such a
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  Speaker 2: solid person.
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  Speaker 3: And I looked up his bio.
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  Speaker 2: He's obviously he's a surgeon, a public policy researcher, researcher,
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  Speaker 2: he was at Johns Hopkins. He used to write for
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  Speaker 2: the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal, and he
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  Speaker 2: had two New York Times best selling books.
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  Speaker 3: He was in the.
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  Speaker 2: Leadership of the WHO, and he was elected to the
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  Speaker 2: National Academy of Medicine.
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  Speaker 3: He was all of these things and so many.
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  Speaker 2: Other things, visiting professor at all these medical schools, published
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty peer reviewed scientific articles, et cetera,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. And so I think that it's important to
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  Speaker 2: defend this man when the mob will continue to come
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  Speaker 2: for him and say he's you know, he's kind of cooky.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, to your point, he actually answers a question
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  Speaker 1: from Megan Kelly about autism rates. And now this is
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  Speaker 1: a perfect contrast where RFK got in trouble this weekend
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  Speaker 1: for saying something that's pretty like pretty ham handed about
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  Speaker 1: autism as he has a way of doing, whereas the
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  Speaker 1: MACKERI is like, Hey, so if I had to posit
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  Speaker 1: a theory, this is what it might entail. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: we bombard our microbiome with all of these chemicals. We
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  Speaker 1: really haven't studied a bunch of them, and there may
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  Speaker 1: be some ways that those interact that cause differences. And
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  Speaker 1: we've seen differences in these studies between children affected by
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  Speaker 1: autism and others who are not. And so that would
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  Speaker 1: be something that I would look into, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that Jay Batcharia has announced that we will be looking into,
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  Speaker 1: like that is a measured, scientifically based answer that gives
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of insight to people who don't follow
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  Speaker 1: this that gives a little bit of hope to those
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  Speaker 1: who might want this looked at in a critical way,
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  Speaker 1: and to me, he is He's always struck me as
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  Speaker 1: somebody who is just interested in evaluating evidence and is
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  Speaker 1: brave enough to talk about things that might be outside
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  Speaker 1: the approved topics that you know, Anthony Fauci up until recently,
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  Speaker 1: was in charge.
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  Speaker 3: Of approving that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. The last and perhaps most splashy one
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  Speaker 1: I believe we have a clip of him talking to
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  Speaker 1: Megan Kelly about this FDA way of doing things that
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  Speaker 1: will be changing.
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  Speaker 4: We want American pharmer companies to do well and companies
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  Speaker 4: that do business in the United States to do well,
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  Speaker 4: but the scientific evaluation needs to be independent, and that's
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  Speaker 4: why today we're announcing we're removing industry members pharma members
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  Speaker 4: from FDA advisory committees. I was shocked what I learned
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  Speaker 4: that employees of big pharmer companies sit on FDA advisory
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  Speaker 4: committees as members of those committees.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to be.
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  Speaker 4: Replacing them whenever statutorily possible. With patients and family givers,
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  Speaker 4: family caregivers, we are going to be inviting pharma companies
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  Speaker 4: to center representatives to the advisory committees, but they can
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  Speaker 4: sit with the rest of the public and watch and
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  Speaker 4: post questions as the rest of the American public can.
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  Speaker 3: That seems like such an obvious thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, in our world, I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like I'm probably more of a pharma defender than most people.
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  Speaker 3: First couple of.
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  Speaker 2: Jobs out of college were at pharmaceutical companies in their
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  Speaker 2: legal departments. I don't see them as, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: evil empire, and I, you know, I definitely have my
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  Speaker 2: problems with a lot of the things that they do,
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  Speaker 2: but I just don't see them as this great evil.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that they were allowed to be involved in
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  Speaker 2: FDA policy is wild to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I think this is one of those instances of
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  Speaker 1: the wait what are we doing the fact, which is
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  Speaker 1: like when people like an Elon Musk or a Marty
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  Speaker 1: McCary come in and say, yeah, we're going to make
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  Speaker 1: a change to the way we're doing this thing, and
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of people go, wait, that's how we were
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  Speaker 1: doing that. That seems bad. Now, people who are MAHA
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  Speaker 1: or who are interested in these conflicts of interest have
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  Speaker 1: known this for a while, but a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: would probably be like, wait, yeah, we definitely shouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: those people doing those particular jobs, right, And look, I
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  Speaker 1: understand I'm with you that I'm a sort of medium
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  Speaker 1: on pharma. I used to be more of a booster,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they do some amazing things and come
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  Speaker 1: up with amazing treatments for various things. However, I do
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  Speaker 1: want room for looking at health holistically, for looking at
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  Speaker 1: nutrition holistically. To use a hippie adjective, but you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, just like there are things that
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  Speaker 1: might be at the root of the problem instead of
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  Speaker 1: just treating the symptoms, that would do people better, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so I think I think this change in particular
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  Speaker 1: could be very interesting and would change the way that
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  Speaker 1: things are regulated and the way that things come to
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  Speaker 1: the foe. He also noted that when it was comes
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  Speaker 1: to the food pyramid, the government, the FDA have you know,
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  Speaker 1: basically partnered with the industries that make the processed food
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  Speaker 1: or the farming industries or whatever interests are there to
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  Speaker 1: make these decisions. Like, I don't find this surprising because
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  Speaker 1: I have followed government and how it operates for many years.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of people will be like, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: seems like a it seems like a bad idea. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we should do it independently of those forces. So I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate his his take on these things. And like, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, Carol, I think there's going to be an
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  Speaker 1: ongoing effort to tie anyone who's doing interesting things under
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  Speaker 1: the HHS directly to RFK. And look, he's their boss.
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  Speaker 1: But these are people, these are men in their own right.
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  Speaker 1: Jabaditaria another one who have great reputations and who I
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  Speaker 1: think deal seriously with the facts exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So I love the seriousness of him, and I love
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  Speaker 2: would love to see what they do next.
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  Speaker 1: We shall see.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be right back on normally.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what the biggest story of the week is.
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  Speaker 2: Carol, I'm sure it's very controversial.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, one of the issues in a Trump administration. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that happens regardless, like and
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  Speaker 1: you're going from the pace of a Biden administration to
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  Speaker 1: a Trump administration, which is why you know, you and
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  Speaker 1: I have to take a break over the weekend and
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  Speaker 1: then catch up. But like, there is something to that.
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  Speaker 1: But as I've always said, with the media in a
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration, they get themselves ratcheted up to such a
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  Speaker 1: degree about every story that it ends up not making
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  Speaker 1: sense which ones are important, which ones are Yet again, Carol,
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  Speaker 1: in this administration, as it was last time, the Easter
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  Speaker 1: egg role at the White.
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  Speaker 3: House is a thing, right, the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Carol, because when a Republican is in office, particularly Trump,
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  Speaker 1: we got to make an issue of this very silly
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  Speaker 1: event that happens on the White House lawn. This year,
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  Speaker 1: the New York Times headline is Easter eggs are it's
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  Speaker 1: attached to this, to this story. But the Easter eggs
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  Speaker 1: are so expensive. Americans are dying potatoes, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I heard that, and I was like, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: potatoes are cheaper than eggs.
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  Speaker 1: No. And here's the thing that's not real, right, what
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  Speaker 1: they're taking a tongue in cheek TikTok video and turning
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  Speaker 1: it into the thesis of a New York Times piece
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: because someone was like, ha haa, eggs are expensive, so
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: we're painting potatoes right then the DNC is like, aha,
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  Speaker 1: the White House has ordered thirty thousand dollars worth of
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  Speaker 1: eggs for the role when Americans are dying potatoes. And
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  Speaker 1: thus we have the controversy of the Easter eggs.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest story ever.
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  Speaker 2: We should all clearly be caught, you know, focusing our
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  Speaker 2: attention on Milania's soft yellow trench quat.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the woman knows the coat.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, he is just she really is perfection.
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  Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous that she could knock out every outfit
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  Speaker 2: every single time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Could I give you a quick flashback to twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: I flagged this and wrote it in when Trump was
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  Speaker 1: elected the first time. This is a quote from the
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  Speaker 1: New York Times. Could this White House, plagued by slow
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  Speaker 1: hiring and lacking an on site first lady, managed to
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  Speaker 1: pull off the largest, most elaborate, and most heavily scrutinized
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  Speaker 1: public event of the year. This is the central question
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  Speaker 1: of a lengthy news story printed in the New York
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  Speaker 1: Times this week. What might you ask? Is the largest,
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  Speaker 1: most elaborate, and most heavily scrutinized public of end of
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  Speaker 1: the year. It is indeed asserted as fact the White
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  Speaker 1: House Easter egg roll.
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  Speaker 2: It just that is bananas, and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Funny, mind blowing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's also it's funny because all I.
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  Speaker 2: Remember of the Biden Easter events is one where the
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  Speaker 2: Easter Bunny had to pull him.
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  Speaker 3: Away from people.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the Easter Bunny got between him and like a
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  Speaker 2: media member. I mean it was everybody was like, who
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  Speaker 2: is in the Easter bunny costume that has that kind
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  Speaker 2: of sway over the president. And then of course where
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  Speaker 2: the trans people lifted up their shirts and showed well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was.
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  Speaker 3: A good one what they got.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, those those little mishaps not a story, no, obviously,
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  Speaker 5: but the idea that Milania Trump might have dropped the
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  Speaker 5: ball in twenty seventeen because Malania Trump, of course, has
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  Speaker 5: no idea how to host an event being Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we learn in this story, by the way, that
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  Speaker 1: even Curious George and Elmo did not know for sure
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  Speaker 1: that the East Easter egg role was happening until late
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  Speaker 1: last month, and the coordinating Yogi for the yoga garden,
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  Speaker 1: a tradition of the Obama years, had not been contacted.
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  Speaker 3: How that is the controversy.
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  Speaker 1: There were also anonymous sources who spoke to the Times
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  Speaker 1: for that twenty seventeen story like this is we're doing
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  Speaker 1: it again.
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  Speaker 2: It looked like just such an old fashioned Easter egg hunt.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: I really Trump coloring with the kids the other thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I know we didn't cueue this up to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't want to just throw this at you.
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  Speaker 2: But is Trump getting more religious? Is he getting more religious?
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  Speaker 2: Or is this my imagination? I feel like he mentions
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  Speaker 2: Jesus more often. I would have said this is not
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  Speaker 2: a religious man before, and I really think he's changed
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  Speaker 2: since the shooting since I think.
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  Speaker 1: There's a there's a little of that. To be sure,
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  Speaker 1: he still says happy Easter. We need God. The losers
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  Speaker 1: also need God.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, He's still Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Just because Jesus into your life doesn't mean you change personalities.
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  Speaker 1: I have never been to the White House Easter egg
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  Speaker 1: roll atty I well, can I be honest? I haven't gone.
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  Speaker 1: But part of the reason not part of these Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm rationalizing because everyone's having fun without me. But I
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  Speaker 1: do think that like getting your kids dressed up and
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: standing in a security line, and then, particularly when they're
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  Speaker 1: very young, I think I would just wait till mine
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  Speaker 1: are a little older, particularly when they're very young, to
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  Speaker 1: go into the White House lawn and then hope that
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  Speaker 1: they behave themselves. Should a president come over and talk
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  Speaker 1: to them, is just a lot. That's a lot, knows
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  Speaker 1: what my children would say.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had had during the first Trump administration. A
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  Speaker 2: friend of mine was in the in the administration and
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  Speaker 2: she had gotten us a private White House tour. And
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  Speaker 2: my youngest son, he's now nine, so somebody has to
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  Speaker 2: do math. I think he was like three at the time.
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  Speaker 2: Cracked his face like he fell right outside.
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  Speaker 6: The Oval office and bled all over the driveway, and
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  Speaker 6: all the pictures from that day or him and his
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  Speaker 6: like little suit with like a.
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  Speaker 3: By Oh bless is hard. Oh yeah, I hear you.
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  Speaker 1: But someday, maybe when they got a few more years
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  Speaker 1: on the little babies, we will do that. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is yet another situation where we make a deal
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  Speaker 1: out of something that isn't a deal, and then people
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  Speaker 1: can't trust you on other stories. Although I will say
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  Speaker 1: the freak out does seem slightly less than twenty seventeen. Trump,
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  Speaker 1: for his part, By the way, did mention to the cameras.
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  Speaker 1: Hey remember when Biden had to get led around by
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  Speaker 1: the Easter Bunny? Not me, not this way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.
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  Speaker 1: One more thing. Yeah, I do think this is important.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see that there's an upgraded Easter Bunny? At
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  Speaker 1: the Easter egg Roll.
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  Speaker 3: That is a good looking Easter Bunny.
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  Speaker 1: He looks brand new. He's like a light brown color.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody joked he has no glasses like the old one did.
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  Speaker 1: The old one was like a very freaky white, fluffy
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  Speaker 1: bunny with the glasses kind of crossed eyes. Sean Spicer
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  Speaker 1: used to dress up in that costume that's from Back
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  Speaker 1: in the Bush Ears. This one is updated, like a
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  Speaker 1: light brown color. Someone joked that he got lasick in
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  Speaker 1: a tan because he has no glasses. And yeah, looking
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  Speaker 1: good with a green coat on. Adorable, very springy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure there will be a hard hitting story on how
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  Speaker 1: much money we spent on that costume.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, the Easter Bunny gotta glow up. I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 1: Those goes after the Easter Bunny next in the New
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  Speaker 1: York Times. Anyway, Easter dragg rollill have fun, everybody, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: enjoy It's fine.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and come right.
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  Speaker 3: Back with normally last story.
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  Speaker 2: Am I keeping it light today as everyone gets back
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: into the swing of things at work. DHS Secretary Christy
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  Speaker 2: Nome had her bag stolen over the weekend from a
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  Speaker 2: DC restaurant and it is kind of an interesting story
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  Speaker 2: because well, the New York Post has all the best details.
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  Speaker 2: Security footage reviewed by the Secret Service showed a white
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  Speaker 2: man in an N ninety five surgical mask, dark pants,
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  Speaker 2: a fur type collar and a ball cap snatching GNOME's
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  Speaker 2: bag before leaving the restaurant. I don't really know what
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  Speaker 2: a fur type collar is.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. Interesting. It's a strange choice, one that Milania Trump
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't make.
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  Speaker 2: And she did, it would look flawless, that's true.
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  Speaker 3: The Post also says.
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  Speaker 2: It was a Louis Vuitton Clement's purse, and I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: isn't that a wallet? And I looked it up and
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  Speaker 2: that is a wallet. So as we're about to read
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  Speaker 2: all the contents, it's almost like confusing. I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: might be they might have gotten the name of the
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  Speaker 2: purse wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. They should have consulted Carol Marcowitz,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: pers expert, clearly before they reported this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how they're even running this story
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  Speaker 2: without talking to me. But she had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: stuff in what appears to be this little wallet mm hmmm,
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  Speaker 2: including three thousand dollars in cash.
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  Speaker 1: Three thousand, but I heard her rumor that the restaurant
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  Speaker 1: was Capital Burger, which is an interesting choice. What is why?
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  Speaker 2: Why is it an interesting choice for those of us
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  Speaker 2: who don't.
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  Speaker 1: Live in I just was expecting maybe something a little
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: more fancy pants, right, But particularly if you have three
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars in your Yes, do you have three thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars in your purse?
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  Speaker 3: Carol?
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  Speaker 2: I will say that I am a rare person that
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  Speaker 2: probably has had three thousand dollars in my purse.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm a poker player and you can only take home.
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  Speaker 2: So but the days that I am carrying my poker
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  Speaker 2: winnings to my home, I can tell you I I
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: am on guard with that money in my wile. And
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: we talked about this on a previous episode. But I'm
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: already kind of crazy, like I do not take my
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  Speaker 2: hand off of my bag. My bag has to be
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: touching me at all times. I'm not blaming her, obviously not.
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  Speaker 2: No one's blaming the victim here. It's just an interesting
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  Speaker 2: detail that she had three thousand dollars and somehow this
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: bag that taken away.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm I'm one of those like sad people. I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: think we've discussed this dynamic before we're if somebody's getting tipped,
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  Speaker 1: it's only if my husband is there, Like do you
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  Speaker 1: have a QR code or do I have my husband?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Those are the two ways, m yeah, because otherwise there
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: are hair bows and mechanical pencils in my purse, like
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that's not it's not the same fair as as Christina.
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  Speaker 1: I do think for the thief DHS secretary, like not
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  Speaker 1: not the one you want to rob. That seems like
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  Speaker 1: a mistake because I feel like they have a lot
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: of resources to bring to bear, particularly because her badges
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: were in there that mag which is no good. But yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I my the contents of my bad currently are a
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: book about COVID because still I'm still mad brod my calendar.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Which let's give them a shout out. Who is it?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: This is? Actually it's a book from Chap Peterson, who
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: was the one rogue Democrat state senator in Virginia about
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: his fight against his own party to uh to put
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: some of those ideas to rest. I have a hair
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: brush and some clariton, so yeah not oh and some goldfish.
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  Speaker 1: Not a not a lucrative steal for anyone, partly because
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  Speaker 1: I left my laptop at home on my trip to
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: New York today.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, in my small bag, I have two
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  Speaker 2: lip glasses, my wallet, my house keys and car keys,
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  Speaker 2: and three packs of matches from the last three restaurants
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  Speaker 2: that I went. If you have matches, I am taking them.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Well, and then whoever gets your purse from your
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: clutches would have plenty of matches at your disposal. Now
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I hope they catch the guy. I assume they probably will. Again,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of resources to bring to bear, and there
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: seems like there's a footage of this person.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Right in his little fur collars.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Also, her whole makeup bag was stolen, and I just
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: say that is a real pain to replace.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is such a bummer.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: That is actually I'm like, the badges, that's tough, apartment keys, okay,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: passport that's annoying.
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  Speaker 3: But the makeup bag.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: The makeup bag. Do you realize the work that goes
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: into this.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: It's years of effort. It's not like a one day
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: shopping trip.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is a this is a treasured a treasured thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: curated collection, that's right, yep. Well, yeah, we hope it's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: returned to her, by the way it should should remind
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: every one of the dangers of dining in DC. Watch
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: out safe.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, stay safe out there, friends. Well, thanks for
• 25:24
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• 25:27
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