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3 Guys Before The Game - Thanks For Having Us (Episode 493) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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Hey, everybody, welcome in. It's time. It's time for you say
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it, I say it, we all say it together. It's time for
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three guys before the game. This is the thanks for having us episode three
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Guys Before the Game, Episode number four hundred and ninety three. Well,
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at less than twelve hours after West Virginia defeated the Horned Frogs of TCU in
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an extremely memorable game between the two schools, a game that will go down,
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I think in the long term memory banks of West Virginia University Football and
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the fans. Final score twenty four one. West Virginia prevails. They throw
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a shutout against the TCU offense in the second half that as a team had
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been averaging thirty eight points per game. They got twenty one in the first
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half, and West Virginia's defense and special teams obviously does the deal. The
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offense symmetrical offense for West Virginia seven and the first seven and the second seven
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in the third and they settle for three in the fourth quarter of play.
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they say, let's do this thing. First off, let's take a deep
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breath and put it all into perspective. The month of September is over.
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It was an odd month because you played five games in the month, right,
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So that's very unique and odd. And West Virginia lost that opener at
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Penn State and has since one four in a row, including two in Conference
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action. And they have done it in a way that I don't think anyone
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whatsoever thought they would do it in this season. So this team is so
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old school that they won last night twenty four to twenty one, right,
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and then they won with don Neelon esque scores the previous two games against pitt
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and then against Texas Tech. This team is such an old school team that
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you know what they did last night. We said, hey, while we're
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winning like we did back in the back in the eighties, might as well
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do travel like we did back in the eighties. So instead of flying to
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Bridgeport, flew to Pittsburgh. Flew to Pittsburgh and had to take the bust
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down just like the old days. Hope you remember the good old days when
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you come back there and you say, oh so anyway, it was a
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super late night team did not get back until six ten six team this morning.
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And that's just the way it is. But you know what, no
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one cares when you win. Like they could have said, hey, we're
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gonna have to actually need to go up to Boise, Idaho and just to
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kind of get around the weather, and people go one mile marker you get
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to that says like what Morgantown forty one miles and it's ever made that trip
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thousands of times, and every time you hit it, you go, what
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forty one miles we should be home by now? Because it's still forty one
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miles. Drive another forty and it says Morgantown thirty six at last? Forty
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miles is yeah, brutal, especially at five in the morning. Are you
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just is that we just hit wings? Is that right? Does that mean
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fourteen or forty one? Yeah? Anyway, we're here. It's easier after
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a win. Yes, And if ever a team needed an off week,
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it is this team huge. We'll get in all of that, all right,
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Hoppy, put this into perspective. What are we seeing? I always
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like to try to find a theme, and so I watched Neil Brown's press
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conference. I watched the press conference of a mentally and physically exhausted Brown,
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and he said a couple of things. He said, I'm as proud of
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a football team as I've ever been. Our backs have been against the wall.
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Nobody believed in us. I don't want to hear anybody that said they
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saw us being four and one. Nope. The only people that really believe
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were us. I felt as we went through spring summer, in the end
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of fall, we had a team that was capable of winning close football games.
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I found a quote by Bear Bryant. He said, if you believe
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in yourself and have dedication and pride, pride, and never quit, you'll
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be a winner. The price of victory is high, but so are the
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rewards. And the price of victory was high yesterday with Trey Lathan, with
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Wyatt Mileon, Thomas Remake, Aubrey Burkes, Hershey McClair, and all those
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guys out injured, some worse than others. But there is something about this
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team. Their togetherness, their pride, their toughness, their old school toughness,
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the grittiness about this team. It is difficult to quantify. It exists
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and you see it, and it helps them win games. You can't exactly
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spreads on stats quantify that, but it is deeply meaningful this team, and
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I think it's the It's the kind of team and we've seen a lot of
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mountaineer teams over the years. It's the kind of team the Mountaineer nation welcomes
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and can easily embrace. This is an embraceable team, not only for the
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wins, but how they play. Extremely well stated, I couldn't agree with
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you more people have been Mountaineer Nation has been waiting and waiting and waiting to
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put their arms around another mountaineer team that they love. And you know what,
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you can love this You can love this team. I think we're at
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that point in the relationship where you kind of take that pause moment, you
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know, Yeah, I think I love you guys. I think I love
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you guys because you play the way that you need to play at West Virginia.
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Yeah, and maybe some times you don't see the trees when you're in
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the midst of the forest. But I listened to Sunny Dikes's pregame conversation on
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the TCU radio network yesterday before the game, and he said pretty much what
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you said. He goes, well, he goes, this is West Virginia.
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He goes, this is how this team is. And he hit all
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of the points that we always like to take great pride in this is how
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we play. And he said, this is what they do, this is
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what they do. And he also had an interesting quote. I kind of
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forgot, but we know that Neil Brown was coached by Sonny Dikes. I
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didn't realize how young Neil was at that time. He goes, I've known
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him since he was eighteen years old, and he said, and I know
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this. He said, he's extremely smart, and what he'll do is he
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will do a wonderful job all the time of assessing what he has and figuring
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out to how to win with what he has. And he said, and
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that's what he's doing right here. So I thought that was pretty neat,
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because again, we're so inside of it all, sometimes you don't hear what
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other people are thinking. So with that being said, we send the remaining
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minutes that we have to the gentleman from the great State of Iowa spreads there's
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a there's a lot to say, hop, I think you said that extremely
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well, and a couple of points to add on to that. The I
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think the reason it's easy to like this team right now not only just because
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of the wins that are following, but it does have that identity. You
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know what this team is, and West Virginia's most beloved teams have not only
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one, of course, but you've been able to identify and then not only
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can you identify with this team, and not only have they made their identity
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clear, It's exactly as you just said, Tonny, it's what the great
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teams have always been here. It fits right. I'll come out and hit
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your right in the face, right, And I think if there's nothing else
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that West Virginia does, it's that right. Even the great rich teams,
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the athletic teams in the showboating and the showtime element they had, they'd hit
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you right in the face two. And that's the that's defining element. I
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just sent, guys, what a tremendous amount of credit needs to go to
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the coaching staff first and foremost. There was an excessive amount of noise around
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this program, quite frankly, an unfair level of noise at times around this
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program. Going back to the middle of last year. They have been able
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to tune that out, continue to message consistently to this team, and the
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wins have followed, oh by the way, six of their last eight,
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with the two losses being to the top ten Penn State team to a Kansas
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State team last year that was top ten top fifteen won the league. And
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for them to be able to message continuously through all that and cut through it
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and then credit those players that have also tuned out that noise and listened to
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that coaching staff and then gone out and executed. I just give a lot
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of credit to them. I think that's a lot harder than what people think
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it is to be able to achieve that, and they've done it and those
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results are following. So I just can't give enough credit to the entire program
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for doing what they're doing. And I get Neil's point about nobody else believing
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and some people had an over four and a half win ticket, though obviously
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some other people believe that some other people. I'm not just talking about some
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on this studio set, but there are others out there that came along with
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the over four and a half. And as I've said many times, if
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I could have found that bet that Western you would not finish last in the
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Big twelve, would have hammered that thing. Never found it. Yeah,
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but a lot of football left. I realized you couldn't have started. You
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just literally could not have started better than four and one. You weren't going
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to Penn State to get a win. You could not have started better than
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you have. You are in tremendous position, and it's it's a weird schedule.
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For as much as we've talked about schedule strength, I think this has
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been a very, very difficult first five games as extremely difficult September, and
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you're seeing the physical toll that it took on this team. But now this
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opens up a little bit. Now it's like, okay, bringing on boys
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who wants some. Now this schedule opens up with a lot of coin flip
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games on it remaining the rest of the season. You've got to continue to
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play. You can hopefully get healthy. But you move forward and say,
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let's go. You're one of three undefeated Big twelve teams in Big Twelve play
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at the end of September, like Gers Neil Many had that on their bingo
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card. So you've already played forty one percent of your season, which means
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that you have fifty nine percent left, but you'll do it over the course
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of eight weeks. Right, So you're you're exactly what I mean getting off
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that bus yesterday, Man, there's there's some dudes. I mean, it
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looked like there's there's a couple of guys there look like what do you call
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those people that zombies? Like the way they're walking Like whoa it was it
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was wow, you know, and that and as you talk about who's coming
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up opponent wise, that right there, what West Virginia is going through.
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Is something you hear over time with all this conference realignment stuff over the years.
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That's the one thing you always hear from these programs that are stepping up
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in competition. It's not the ability to go win a game. It's not
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the ability to win a few games in there. It's the constant week to
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week grind you go through with bigger, better athletes and more of them that
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these other teams pulling up say, and that's it's hard to do every week.
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You see if you see Houston and byu Stell straight ahead on the schedule,
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you see how you doing? How are we doing? Oh my?
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How about two again? There's a lot to get into and a lot of
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players individual players. But the story that Neil Brown talked about after the game
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when Nukeo Markiell rolled his ankle and he's injured, and so then they go
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to Garrett Green, who wanted to play badly, wanted to play badly,
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and Brown says, a Green, you got to prove to me that you
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can go. And he goes out on a day that normally is like a
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walk through and or a light practice, not not sweat practice, and has
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to prove that he can play, that he's well enough to play, and
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that's just you know, seventy two hours before the game and then goes out
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and turns in again just a Garrett Green gutty gutty performance, willing his team
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forward. I mean, that's that's amazing too. Yeah, And I think
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that also is a piece of why people are falling in love with this team
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because of that moxie. That's classic quarterback moxie. As you saw during the
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game, He'll back down from no one and people like that. They embrace
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that in his toughness and his ability to go so like, yeah, let's
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go, let's do this thing. A couple of things are The toughness was
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clearly on display because he was not cutting like he normally would, he didn't
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have the straight speed that he normally did, and still found a way to
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make big plays. If you go to This is not an official Spreads on
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stats brought Conley CPA group, but I will tell you this. Yeah,
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if you want me to start the night yet, because I gotta bunch them,
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so just settle in because we're gonna have a big spreads on stats here.
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But this here's one for you usage rate, which is self explanatory.
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How much you use he's used in the passing game, he's your quarterback,
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twenty nine percent usage rate in your rush game. You talk about how valuable
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that position is to this offense, and Garrett Greene in particular, is that
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illustrates its second highest usage rate on the ground and obviously by far the highest
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passing rate usage. There's just a tremendous game. And to your point of
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setting a tone and an attitude and an identity on we'll hit you right in
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the face. And not only will he hit you right in the face,
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we're not going to back down if you come at us. When he was
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walking off the field there, I think it was like in the first quarter
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or whatever, and all of a sudden, he's walking off the field,
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he's drives over. He's just gonna go handle his business on the sideline,
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and you get some yippitty app yappy app coming from the other side. He
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stops, turns on a dime and goes nose to nose with a TCU guy.
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Well, TCU can't just handle it one on one, so they bring
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a second guy in. But they can't just handle it two on one,
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so they bring a third guy in and he not moving. I mean,
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Garrett Green's not moving and yapp and right back at that on his own three
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on one until Nick Malan finally came over and said, Okay, I got
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your were enough. That's go to the sideline. So you talk about standing
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right in there. Oh he's here, we go, We'll stand right in
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He's moxie. Yeah, he's not gonna back down from anything, not gonna
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back down anything at all. All right, So a bunch of stuff to
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pull apart the injuries just make your heart hurt. Let me see it.
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We've not played we've not played two games in two weeks, and we've had
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three appearances by the heart, and you know, sometimes you go through an
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entire season you don't see it once. And now we saw Tyler Shuck of
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Texas Tech last week. And now we see Aubrey Burks who did text out
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about two o'clock ish this morning. I said, Hey, I'm good mountr
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Nation, so proud of my guys. So that was fantastic that he's able
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to do that. And then obviously you know Trey Lathan, who I think
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was having he was starting a nip toward a freshman All American type season.
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I think he was right on pace right there, and he gets he breaks
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a bone in his leg. And they stayed there last night and they're gonna
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do surgery there last night. So it's a it's a it's a brutally physical
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game. And there's this great paradox in this game that we love it and
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we love it because of the physicality. We love it because of the the
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whole spectacle that it brings. And then at the same time, you have
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those moments where you realize that on every single snap, something just tremendously bad
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can happen. And we saw it twice here last night. It was and
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there was a tough I mean, it's not funny at all. But Neil
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Brown, I think when they got down maybe near the goal line, and
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Brown asked one of his assistants, he said, where's Wyat and mild where's
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Thomas Remac. I mean there was a rebuilt, a rebuilt left side of
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that line. Yeah, it was, Yeah, Yes, they had to
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back up, they moved, had to move Yates over to the left side
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to try and get the left side some stability and moving guys all over the
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place, and you know it was the Burkes thing was just flat scary.
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Right when you see those situations, they're flat scary, and you could see
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on the faces of the players and the staff and Neil Brown in particular,
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that was out there. I will again give credit to both coaches and players.
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In the immediate aftermath of that, they had TV had some great shots
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of Jordan Leslie with his guys around him and every all sets of eyes on
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Jordan Leslie listening to him talking to them. Same with Neil Brown in that
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situation. So both both coaches mentally resetting that unit and then all those players
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being able to turn around and go back out after you saw one of your
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guys leave the field in a cart and you're not quite sure what had happened
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to him, have to go back out and engage in that physical nature of
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that game. Tremendous amount of credit. And not only did West Virginia go
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out and do that, they cranked that thing up. Both of those next
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were absolute stymies and people were flying around. It wasn't just a result based.
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Hey, they did well. In the next couple drives, you could
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see the difference in energy level that was brought in the immediate aftermath. That's
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tremendously hard to die. And maybe you said it bred somebody said it last
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night, because when something like that happens, and you did get the impression.
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There's a lot of close relationships on this team. If when you're just
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looking at it from a distance, you're saying, okay, next guy up,
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it's easy to say, but you know that's that's that's your friend.
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Yeah, that's your friend, not just your even your teammate, that's your
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friend. And you don't know like how bad the injury is or what it's
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going to be, and you're thinking about them, and then you got to
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go play, Yeah, to compartmentalize that and move on. In those moments
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from you're watching that take place and all of that, those medical personnel around
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and waving frantically, to then be able to go out and say, Okay,
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now I've got to hit you as hard as I possibly can. That
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is just a massively difficult tath that West Virginia's players handled extremely well. And
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another side side note to all of that, I mean, we saw it
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both weeks here with both of the karts situations. The synchronicity that the athletic
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training staffs and the emergency personnel work with is just unbelievable because yes, you're
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playing against each other, but at the same time, there is this agreement
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that you know, when something like this happens, it's just instantaneous. People
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flew off the sideline from TCU and all of the emergency personnel and all the
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folks from WV Medicine, the team docks that travel with them, plus the
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great folks in the WV Athletic training room. It's just an immediately you become
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one and you take care of whomever, and then instantly they're gone, and
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then you go back and your play against So there's this whole thing that's going
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on. There's two CU folks were fantastic there. It's a great point.
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One last on the injuries and then we can move along. It was also
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I thought, as hard as that Aubrey Burke's thing was to watch the Trey
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Lathan one was really hard to because because to your point, that now and
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we'll do it in a minute, I just said, okay, then we'll
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move on from injuries, and we can move on from injuries. You know
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who's not moving on from injuries right now is Trey Lathan and watching him get
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loaded into that cart. You could see I'm sure there was a tremendous amount
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of pain there, but you could see his pain was more the anguish of
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not being He just was frustrated. He wanted to play. He knew that
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was season ending. The long road to rehab that he has in front of
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him, that's a part, that's that human element of that that you It
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was hard to watch, quite frankly, top I mean, they had they
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had the camera on him for a long time, and it was hard to
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watch the frustration on his face of being being pulled out of there. No,
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I actually think and I don't want to criticize coverage. I mean,
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typically when there's a when there's a bad injury, TV makes this decision,
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we're not going to show this, And frankly, I object to that because
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I think that it is a part of the story. You don't have to
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show it repeatedly. But I think I think you should show it actually to
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see that, to see the nature of the injury. But they stayed on
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Trey Lathan too long. I mean, he's suffering, he's struggling. I
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mean, you know whether he's you don't know whether he's It's just that was
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like you said, but that was really hard to watch. I thought that
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was unfair to keep it on him that long after that injury. You guys
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All right, go ahead here, all right, here we go. IM
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gonna jump around a little bit. I'll start hoppy with your request right there.
24:08
You Going into the week, matchups were a big theme. I'll get
24:11
into some other specific ones that we talked about on last show, but the
24:15
defense that TCU played with the nose guards straight up on top of Zach Frasier.
24:19
We spent a lot of time talking about this on all of our different
24:22
platforms and that was going to be a huge matchup and I referred to it
24:26
on sports Line. The other night State Championship Wrestling meet, right was Zach
24:30
Frasier, former four time champion. You think he was looking at a guy
24:33
across from him saying, Oh my gosh, I don't know what I'm gonna
24:34
do. I have a feeling. Zach Frasier's looking across saying, was that
24:37
right? You want to come on? Come on with it? You want
24:38
to bring it? Yeah, you know who brought it last night, Zach
24:41
Frasier. A lot of talk about Texas Tech nose guard, how big,
24:45
how good as this and that, all due respect to that young man,
24:49
Dominic Williams had a rough night. Frasier comes out as one of the highest
24:53
graded mountaineers, second in fact of guys that played ten or more snaps.
24:57
Williams, on the other side, came out as the lowest graded defensive player
25:00
for Texas Tech, including had two massive defensive holding calls that I don't I
25:06
mean both times I was getting ready to complain about the officials, and they
25:07
said a defensive holding. Excellent job by the officials, by the way,
25:11
tremendous job spotting those. But how about that particular individual matchup Zach Frasier won
25:17
going away one of the highest graded mountaineers. Williams, one of the lowest
25:22
graded Texas Tech readers ever, had a tough night against one of the best
25:23
centers in the country. Well on that. I mean, Zach Frasier just
25:26
dominated him. And I think the holds came because Frasier taking care of business
25:30
with him and was going to block the next guy, and Williams was like
25:33
holding him so he wouldn't cold block the next guy. I mean, it
25:37
was just a dominant performance by Zach Frasier. Credit to that wonderful officiating staff,
25:41
because I mean, you normally you don't see defensive holding on a defensive
25:45
lineman. Maybe you see it once a year. To see it twice a
25:48
game, I mean, I still remember the West Virginia Maryland game back when
25:51
Rick Dolly got caught on a defensive holding. I don't know if you remember
25:55
that game. That was a back in the circle, don Neelon, are
25:56
I still still bombed out Rick Dolly got caught on that holding. Just a
26:00
tremendous job by the officials. Always do a great job. A lot of
26:03
respect for them on this program. Did a great job crew. But we
26:07
we had commented after watching some tape again last week Tony about Fraser, how
26:11
you know what his rushing yard total would because he's downfield right with the running
26:15
backs, like he's just knocking people out at the line, going down the
26:18
field, putting people down and then helping the running back up because he's sitting
26:21
next to the running back when they get tackled thirteen yards down the field.
26:23
He did it again last night. It just so you want to put somebody
26:26
straight over him, you want to offset against it. Whatever, done.
26:29
Just put somebody out there across room. He's gonna wipe your butt with it.
26:30
I mean, he was outstanding. He was just tremendous. All right,
26:33
So that's one. So happy there's your answer. Yeah, dominated excuse
26:36
me, glasses again. All right. So the matchups we talked about specifically
26:40
on Thursday's episode, let's go back and look at those. See how we
26:42
did. We said their old line was a work in progress. We heard
26:45
from Brian Estridge TCUs played by play voice on Sports Line. I think he
26:48
said what they're growing was his term for basically, you're not where you want
26:52
to be. There's still a work in progress along that offensive line. We
26:56
said, specifically, the right side of that TCU line had had some trouble
27:00
in the early season, which would set up West Virginia's pass rushers coming from
27:04
the left. That's generally Jared Bartlett and Shawn Martin, who've had tremendous success
27:10
coming from the left side. Well, how that grat out. The TCU
27:12
right side actually graded out fairly Well, it was more their left side that
27:17
had trouble. But the two we highlighted from West Virginia, Martin and Bartlett
27:22
both had it still had big nights. Sean Martin led the team in pressures
27:26
with four. Martin also should have been credited with a sack were it not
27:30
for that outrageous review was at the end. It just the refs did a
27:33
great job. I still have no idea what was happening. If that's not
27:37
a sack, then how's it not intentionally grounding my man's on his back.
27:42
The only receiver he could have been looking at was straight up in the clouds.
27:45
I mean, what the hell kind of was that up near the Comax
27:49
blimp. Unbelievable. Well, and threw the ball straight up at the Comax
27:52
blimp anyway, So Martin leadin pressure, should have had a sack, but
27:56
didn't. Then his special team's play was obviously huge. Bartlett wasn't far behind.
28:00
He had two pressures in one of West Virginia's sacks. Bartlett finishes with
28:03
a stellar eighty two and a half pass rush grade. So those two guys
28:08
that we highlighted that probably had aadvantageous matchups ended up certainly having that we told
28:14
you in the last episode. Chandler Morris led the big twelve in dropbacks under
28:18
pressure. You think that came to fruition hop it certainly did in the second
28:22
half. Correct. West Virginia got after him in the second half and he
28:25
was a totally different quarterback. And here's the thing, guys, there were
28:29
I know, technically when you look back at the stat sheet and in history,
28:32
we'll see there were no turnovers for TCU in this game. My god,
28:37
there should have been what there should have been four interceptions. There should
28:40
have been two muff There were two muff punts that TCU fell back on.
28:44
Those were turnover. That was a turnover machine waiting to happen. That just
28:48
never came to fruition. West Virginia defensive line was fantastic during Gia gets in
28:52
there gets a sack, EDIV with another impressive performance. Mike Lockhart was good.
28:56
Jalen Thornton credited with a sack, So just an outstanding effort by the
29:00
entire defense, again including the front, that really caused a lot of problems
29:06
for Chandler Morris. Everybody had on that real quick point is that how about
29:10
because in the first half Chandler Morris was getting outside the pressure right and making
29:15
plays. And then as Steve Dunglat pointed out on our coverage, then in
29:18
the second half and made adjustment, started bringing a fifth guy and then trying
29:22
to keep him into pocket, he just wasn't as effective. Yeah, So
29:23
defensively, West Virginia five sacks. They do not give up a sack.
29:29
The offensive line does not give up a sack, and West Virginia had nine
29:33
TFLs so getting upfield. Yeah, here's the other thing on that rushing.
29:37
I mean, Chandler Morris was, he was good in the first half scrambling
29:40
out of there. But at the same time, what you forget about that
29:42
is, you know what you shut down? Amni Bailey twelves leading rusher had
29:47
fifty five yards two point nine per carry. So are you giving up a
29:51
few scramble yards to the quarterback? Okay, scramble all day. You're not
29:55
running down our throat with the big twelve's leading rusher there. If you're West
29:56
Virginia, that's what you're saying. So you want to take a couple scramble
30:00
yards, have at it, man. I mean they bottled up the run
30:03
from that standpoint too. What if I told you going into the game they
30:06
would hold Amanti Bailey to two point nine yards per cure rate, you go,
30:11
no win and take it. So you faced some really good backs a
30:14
Monti Bailey and then the two studs at Penn State. You've held your own
30:17
pretty well there, right, Never mind the past defense, but how about
30:19
that run defense. Speaking of defensive players that were that were very impactful again,
30:25
Beanie Bishop continues to get better and better and play extremely well. Great
30:30
second on the team with nine tackles. He had two more pass breakups.
30:33
He was second on the team with three stops. And I've used this number
30:37
before. It's defined by Pro Football Focus as a quote failure for the offense.
30:41
So that's a major defensive stat that they chart Beanie Bishop with three of
30:45
those. So tremendous there, all right, move on to a couple other
30:48
numbers. Red red zone scoring rate was something we had talked about. TCU
30:53
wasn't finishing drives very well, they were a one hundred and eleventh in the
30:56
country in red zone scoring rate, not just not just touchdowns but points.
31:02
They were leaving a lot of points on the table they did last night.
31:04
They did not punch in from the red zone. Some just baffling decisions.
31:10
Though. The going for it by Sunny Dikes that are not going for it
31:12
the first time was surprising. It was the other way around, went for
31:17
it the first time, which surprised me. The second time, not going
31:21
for it and kicking the field goal late when you had West Virginia on some
31:23
skates I thought was a massive win for WVU. So both thanks to Pat
31:27
Mardozy and Sunny Dikes for some coaching decisions that I thought really benefited West Virginia.
31:33
But it's not shot. It's just that get one in the facts.
31:37
He kicked that field goal at the beginning when he had West Virginia backpedaling.
31:41
Those things matter, guys, during close games. Those things matter mentally as
31:45
well as just the points on the field. So thank you very much to
31:48
that one. Here's the other part. Schedule strength matters, and guys,
31:52
I say that every year on this desk as we as we play these first
31:56
two three four games, and everybody tries to say this, records this and
32:00
your records this. It matters who you play, and it does turn out
32:05
to be predictive in nature. At time, this was one of those.
32:07
TCU came into this game rank seventeenth in the country and rush defense. So
32:12
there's a lot of talk all week from all over the country about how good
32:15
this rush defense was. But if you use the Conley CPA group help value
32:20
beyond the numbers, sure win in there and looked, here's what it told
32:23
you talked about this earlier on sports Line. TCU had faced rush offenses that
32:29
ranked on average ninety six in the country, including a Colorado team that entered
32:35
yesterday's games as the worst Power five rushing attack in the country. So,
32:38
yeah, they've done a good job against teams, but teams hadn't been able
32:42
to run it at a level which West Virginia was going to theoretically going into
32:45
that game. Now, postgame, you look at that West Virginia came in
32:49
as the forty first best rushing offense in the country and proceeded to hit that
32:52
magic number of two hundred yards on the ground as they finished with two hundred
32:57
and one stay undefeated under Neil when you do that, so sometimes it matters
33:01
who you've played and what those teams have done, and you've got to look
33:05
beyond just the overall superficial records and see what's going on. I thought that
33:09
particular game was a good one, and we talked about matchups this week.
33:13
There were things that showed The numbers showed you this is a tough place to
33:16
play, that was going to be a tough win for West Virginia to get
33:20
that was far from impossible, and that line was probably inflated. There were
33:22
matchup advantages for West Virginia. Can I ask a question, sure, how
33:28
did the oddsmakers miss this one so significantly? Yeah? So, And again
33:35
I know we all default to the ones that are right on, and Vegas
33:38
gets them close to the number way more than they miss. If you think
33:42
about what they have to do. We're up here trying to evaluate one team
33:45
every game, and we're not on it every time. They're trying to evaluate
33:49
one hundred and thirty plus baseball is going everything else. So if you look
33:52
at what they go off of, first, the computer power ranking numbers that
33:57
don't take into effect all this they try and account for a but it's still
34:00
hard early in the season because early season power rankings are still taking into account
34:05
last year's numbers, and that becomes harder and less stable each year with all
34:08
these transfers. Right, it's harder to take a past result and put it
34:13
on a current result, but you don't have anything else to go on.
34:15
So as each week moves on, and you've heard me say this, the
34:17
numbers become more reliable because it starts to regulate and it's also weeded out last
34:23
year's biases that are in those numbers. So if you look at where the
34:28
power rankings were, this number was about twelve and a half points apart in
34:31
favor of TCU. So what Vegas is doing that? Man? They got
34:35
to get a number out there, ship it and then move on to the
34:37
next thing. And then what they do is they watch what happens. Where's
34:40
the first bet come from? How much is it? Who's it from?
34:43
Did we miss this number? Are we off by a lot? And that's
34:45
why you sometimes see these mover numbers jump quite a bit. And so that's
34:49
why it started where it was, and then the money kept dictating. Then
34:52
okay, the line's going to stay where it is. Then late it started
34:55
to come back to West Virginia. There was news I think that got into
35:00
that market, right regarding West Virginia's quarterback situation to that move the number.
35:04
Yeah, that's one of the other things. If you think stuff's not getting
35:06
out, that stuff getting out, you talk to those Vegas guys. They
35:08
are on that early and they were aware before it started, before it was
35:14
ever reported, right, a lot of people like to get out there say
35:15
first reported by. I'll tell you what if some Vegas dudes could do first
35:20
reported by if they wanted to put first reported by, some of the national
35:22
guys would be out of business. I'm just telling you that Vegas, Vegas
35:25
knew there was some quarterback stuff going on. So I think, and this
35:28
will go off topic just a little bit, that's why we probably need to
35:30
adopt the NFL's injury policy because there's just so much money on these games.
35:37
Now you you need to do it. Just be out and just say,
35:40
okay, here's our situation right now. Bad guys have it. And props
35:45
to you because all this week when when when I was looking at superficial stats
35:50
and said, oh, they're only giving up eighty five yards a game and
35:52
you were going, well, look, let's see who they played here,
35:54
let's see what those other teams have done. And you were giving I think
35:58
great context to the superficial numbers and the all week you were saying, so
36:02
you were never buying into that fourteen point thirteen point dominance by TCU. Well,
36:08
thank you, I say many times. The reason I like these numbers
36:12
so much is it's gotten to the point now they're so readily available and there's
36:15
so much information in the marketplace. You don't just have to wait for a
36:20
football coach to tell you what's happening. You can look at these numbers and
36:22
they don't tell you the full story, and there's other components and you do
36:25
need to watch what actually happens. But man, you can get a lot
36:29
of information, as you've heard on this program over the years, you can
36:31
get a ton of information about games, and a lot of times it is
36:36
very predictive, and that doesn't mean it's going to play out that way,
36:37
but it shows you where the holes are, where the advantages are, and
36:40
where the path the victory is. Yeah. One more, excuse me,
36:45
one more, you're putting the glasses back on. Well, yeah, yes,
36:50
thank you. This is this is one that coaches love to talk about,
36:54
and most of us as fans don't. We just don't really deal with
36:57
it. But it continues to be a number you talk about something that's really
37:00
predictive. West Virginia won the field position battle last night by a whopping thirteen
37:06
yards. And I've said this before. I can't get my hands on the
37:09
exact data research that shows this, but so I'm going off memory. But
37:14
it's outrageous, like if you win that by plus ten yards, you win
37:16
like something stupid like ninety seven or ninety eight percent of the time. And
37:21
there was a point yesterday where West Virginia it was either tied or West Virginia
37:23
was behind. We talked about it on our game day broadcast. West Virginia
37:28
was plus six at the moment, and I remember saying, hey, guys,
37:30
hold on here, West Vinia's plus six in field position. That's generally
37:34
a good sign that you're winning. Then that they went to twelve and it
37:37
still wasn't decided. It's interesting that that finishes out. The real world application
37:42
is that as you saw a couple of those punts well from TCU that weren't
37:45
big punts, that West Virginia took over in plus territory. That led to
37:50
a big gap in that and those are those coaches referred to a lot of
37:52
times as hidden yards. There were some big time hidden yards last night.
37:55
But West Virginia won that yardage field position starting point by thirteen yards, massive
38:00
advantage. Man TCU did not put well. West Virginia punted five times average
38:05
forty six yards no return yards, the net was the average forty six.
38:08
On the punt the net was forty five point eight believable. And how about
38:14
this one on the other side for TCU, they punted it five times they
38:17
average. They've got a really good punter from Australia and one of my great
38:21
favorite continents, Big in the world. They hit it five times. Geordie
38:25
Sandy forty four yard average, forty four yard average net thirty four. So
38:32
Preston Fox and Preston Minipack. What do you guys call him? Pac Man
38:37
Fox? Pac Man Fox. So he had two returns and he averaged sixteen
38:44
yards. I think I have that right. Yeah, punt yards at two
38:46
for thirty two, so sixteen yard average incredible. So he'll be in the
38:51
top again. He might crawl up. He was in the top twenty this
38:54
past week like sixteen. He might be like in the tens now on special
39:00
teams, I mean you blocked two field goal attempts? How many two?
39:02
How many two? Not only did you block two in massive moments? Yes,
39:08
their special teams had a tough night, Man, and they could have
39:10
had a catastrophic night. Two fumbles that they were able to get back.
39:15
On special teams, they had two kicks blocked and their punt game was not
39:17
on point. I'm sorry, Can I do one more? You play any
39:22
wrap up music rights? Act? Well, we're on punts here and we're
39:24
talking about pac Man Fox. We talked about this yesterday, hop during our
39:30
game day stuff. You're ready for this, Tony, this will blow your
39:32
mind. I haven't told you you haven't heard this yet. No, so
39:36
we we've We're only half joking about how great Preston Fox has been by giving
39:40
them the nickname. And that's with all love because pac Man's one of the
39:43
all time great returners. Here. Why we do that? I started going
39:46
back to do some numbers with West Virginese punt return that we know hasn't been
39:52
great. It hasn't been great. It's been great. When you don't put
39:57
anyone punt they it hasn't been great. Well, context, not only did
40:01
they not put anybody back under Dana that one year they didn't put a returner
40:06
back and got a cheer from the crowd. And it was actually the right
40:08
decision, right approved. The right decision was to not put anybody back.
40:12
So think about that. So I went back, did some numbers. Hop
40:15
you're ready. You've heard once Tony is not Herthy's Tony. I need your
40:16
full focus on me, please, Okay, I'm all right. This is
40:20
very good West Virginia right now, averaging going into yesterday's game. That'll increase,
40:23
as you just mentioned, ten point one yards per return, forty seventh
40:27
in the nation, very good, top fifty. Okay, from twenty twelve
40:31
until twenty twenty two, so basically the decade West Virginia's average finished in punt
40:37
return yards on average per return average one hundred and third nationally. Wow.
40:44
A decade. That's not even your wow. Here's your wow. Ready.
40:47
West Virginia finished in the bottom five teams in the country in that category four
40:52
times in that span, thirty six percent of the time. Over the previous
40:57
eleven seasons it finished in the bottom four five teams in the country hadn't finished
41:02
over ninetieth. Are better than ninetieth in more than a decade. And if
41:07
you take out the two thy twelve year, which our buddy Steve done that
41:12
coach Special Teams also had Tavon Austin that year probably helped up the game.
41:15
By the way last night, West Virginia finished twenty ninth that season. You
41:19
take that out and go from thirteen to twenty two, one hundred and twenty,
41:23
one hundred, twenty seven, hundred and second, one hundred and twenty
41:27
four, one hundred and eleventh, one hundred and fifth, hundred and eleventh,
41:29
ninetieth, one twenty six out of one thirty and ninetieth non existent.
41:34
So an area that it's not what it once was. There's a lot of
41:37
teams that aren't returning punts at the clip they once did. But you talk
41:40
about an area that's taken a massive leap forward that we don't really discuss.
41:45
There's one. Yeah, again, we always talk about Special teams being non
41:49
sexy, and it's the thing we talk about the least. But coaches no,
41:52
right, coaches no. And also something hit me last night after the
41:55
two field goal blocks. If you go back to the first game this Sea
42:00
season, Neil said, I'll tell you what he said. Our field goal
42:04
block unit on our extra point, he goes, they get really really good
42:07
push and you thought like, Okay, he might be just trying to find
42:10
something positive to kind of but no, he was. He was on it.
42:15
He saw it, and then obviously it comes through last night a game.
42:20
Yeah, he said that they they work on it in practice consistently.
42:24
They do good on good and what they what they teach him is push arms
42:30
up, getta push put arms What happened on both of this, gotta push
42:32
put an arm up well to kick, they'd go, Sean Martin gets an
42:36
arm up up there and you had the advantage. I mean that worked perfectly.
42:39
Long field goals, right, you're gonna have a lower trajectory, and
42:43
those guys did exactly what they're supposed to do and executed that to perfection.
42:46
Okay, but still but even though they did, I mean it still,
42:51
well, what's funny see that you don't what's funny is that Sean Martin after
42:58
the game said I was going to block that second one because I was mad
43:00
they took that sack away from me on that play that we talked about,
43:04
and that that's the case. I'm glad that they reverse the call. That's
43:07
a good point to energize Sean Martin to block the kick. Oh that was
43:12
really that was That was good stuff there, Sows. I mean I thought
43:14
you came for well, there was a lot. I mean there's a lot
43:17
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Yeah it is. It's good. So easier to get and look at
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it coming up here and then not too, I mean the speaking of speaking
46:40
of our status, it continues to have a tremendous rating on on tapped Kirchevels
46:45
just continues. Yeah, it does a lot of precincts reporting. Now with
46:47
that too, that's really some good, clean date, I would think at
46:51
this point, I mean, you have enough then you have enough data to
46:53
me, oh, it's not anecdotal. It's a great beer. It's not
46:57
anecdotic. It's probably scientific at this point. Got it good? I guess
47:00
you could say it's the highest rated beer that any podcast is associated with.
47:07
Probably say that fairly, say that if you just take a look at the
47:09
numbers straight up. Yeah, all right, let's get what people are thinking
47:13
about here. Let's do this thing. Textual healing. Ladies and gentlemen,
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I hate that you've been such an influence on me and what I'm about to
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do here. But also you may want to just check the store a little
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bit later tonight or certainly by tomorrow morning. This is Sundays. You mean,
48:23
well, here's let me let me defend myself. I don't need nine
48:29
permits and pay three different fees and all that to get this done. It
48:31
was a one on one conversation that I feel good about the execution of this,
48:37
so it wasn't as many hurdles standing in there or challenges these days,
48:39
but you're not well. I mean it's a little bit too. It's a
48:45
little bit because well, I just would encourage folks. I think they will
48:49
like a new addition to episode eight hundreds, store apparel, store checking win.
48:53
So you're so you're saying before the end of the day, there's going
48:57
to be a thanks for having us T shirt? Oh? Now, he
49:00
just ruined it. I had, I had an expert a plus high level
49:04
marketing teas and he just I mean, just throw it out there. I
49:07
mean, why wouldn't you if you know anything about marketing. Now is the
49:10
day to bring out the thanks for having us T shirt? Oh, which
49:14
is why a call was already made and it was in production. Thank you?
49:15
Did you? Thank you last night? Thanks for having us? I
49:20
said on the last episode, this was an all timer and you needed you
49:22
needed to put it into action. I give you credit. I get I
49:27
give you credit. It wasn't the horn frog in the middle of the field,
49:30
I get it. But you did a pretty nice job. You had
49:31
the logo in So I was leaving last night. Yeah, I was not
49:36
gonna taunt no fans TCUF. I wasn't gonna do that. But just for
49:40
him. While I was walking out, I looked up at the stadium,
49:44
I'm going to the bus, and I see it beautiful TCU and purple and
49:46
the thing. So I just walked over, put the camera with the TCU
49:51
behind me and me on camera, and I just said to him, Yo,
49:53
I said, thanks for having us. It was it was not for
50:00
public uses, No, it's not. And listen, that's the thing.
50:02
That's not that when we do that stuff, Houp, that's not men whose
50:06
disrespect. That's just listen. If you don't celebrate the winds, it is
50:09
hard to get wins. If you don't celebrate the winds, then what are
50:13
you doing? Yeah? Then what are you doing? And if someone would
50:15
like to do it, thanks for having us in front of the Mountaineer field
50:17
and then then so be it. Have at it. Yeah. But by
50:20
the way, next twenty four hours, maybe just check episode eight eight hundred
50:22
dot com if you'd kind of get a comp comp like to get on that.
50:25
Oh yeah, we get you one. There are no comps. Uh
50:28
no, we'll get you one. By the way, TCU folks couldn't be
50:30
couldn't be nicer. I mean, Brian Estridge is one of our faces.
50:36
He's one of our favorite, the most the most attentive customer service guys,
50:40
like he comes over. I think he was in our booth more than he
50:43
was in his booth, just making sure everything. You guys are good,
50:45
You guys are Yeah, we're good, We're good, We're good. Do
50:47
you know. I've known him since he was at Appalachian State. Amazing,
50:52
that's when he was. That's when he was with the Mountaineers. That's right,
50:53
that's when he was with the mountain he's kind of wiz us in spirit
50:57
now, not yesterday, but he's he's one of our guys, one of
50:59
our guys. Okay, disclaimer on the disclaimer on the texts as we begin
51:05
the textual healing, too many to read, just literally too many to read
51:10
most of the time, like one hundred percent of the time. I'd say
51:15
one hundred percent of them are read just today. It's just too many.
51:19
And what I've done was on the ones that just are just restating what's already
51:24
been stated. We'll just we'll spend some time on that theme. Okay.
51:30
Okay, So a bunch of people like for example, C. J.
51:32
Donaldson's running, I got maybe eight to ten, well, instead of okay,
51:39
just continue, So we'll do that. So if you don't hear yours,
51:45
don't don't be upset. Hopefully we'll we'll hit your topic first off,
51:51
this one from the last show, textual healing has become unlistenable. Do you
51:58
purposely avoid football related texts? There are no way about all, there's no
52:04
way. There are all these little stories about food and seeing the fly in
52:07
West Virginia. A WV logo on random travels. Well, actually there is,
52:12
there is. Yeah, there's nothing there. Okay, here we go.
52:14
Thanks for asking, Tony, John and Jersey here with all the text
52:19
about problems with ESPN Plus during the tech game, I need to share my
52:22
early adopters story of streaming West Virginia's legendary two thousand and five game against Louisville.
52:29
I paid thirty dollars to watch one game on the new at the time
52:32
ESPN three sixty service with my father, A bit of a fairweather WV fan.
52:37
My father insisted that we stopped watching in the third quarter for an early
52:42
dinner at Bucca de Peppac Cool. I never let him down. I've never
52:46
let him live down that I paid to miss the emergence of Pat White and
52:50
Steve Slayton in dramatic fashion. In addition to what I believe was the first
52:54
time you ever said you're famous wherever you may be phrase, perhaps you can
52:59
confirm a that was the first time you ever said it. I'll always think
53:01
about how I was oblivious because I was in Bucca to Peppo. Actually,
53:07
I always thought for years that was the first time I ever said it was
53:10
a great night to be a mountaineer. And then someone said, like,
53:15
no, actually, you used it in the wake Forest West Virginia basketball game
53:19
at the previous March. Pretty good time to break it out. That was
53:22
the first time. And then I used it the second time against Louisville.
53:27
Text her, well, he's not alone because about thirty five thousand people left
53:30
the stadium that day a little bit early, which was one of the fun
53:34
great moments of that game. I was in the end zone, sweet area,
53:37
and you went to the back, that open area with all the windows.
53:39
When it started coming, you could see everybody just flooding back in.
53:43
It looked like it looked like you'd first opened the gates for a big game,
53:47
back when you could come back. Yeah, it's back when you could
53:50
enter back in It was pretty pretty funny. So let me ask you guys
53:52
this, do you think there are a few Balor people this morning that are
53:55
telling the same story that they turned it off? Absolutely? I mean,
54:00
listen, full disclosure. I flat out said they quit in the first quarter
54:02
of the game. They were not playing at all. They were getting grease.
54:06
I said, I think they've quit. Something's wrong in Baylor came all
54:08
the way back twenty eight point win. What a win for them. What
54:12
a gut punch loss for UCF that was rolling there. Yeah, so we
54:15
need to be careful with Baylor because they've had quarterback situations there with injury like
54:20
that. Might be a team here, you know that starts to get it
54:22
cranked up a little bit. Also might not be keep an eye on Oh
54:24
yeah, I kid, you text her three guys, Tony, you just
54:29
said a phrase that should become the next three guys shirt win or lose.
54:34
You're gonna be bruised thinking of kerchivel. You changed the spelling of bruised to
54:37
be r e wus bruised. Just a thought. PS. My sister in
54:42
law, who was on the WV Homecoming Cort back in the seventies was back
54:45
on campus for the first time since she graduated to watch the pit game.
54:49
While walking through the bluelot runs into one of her college roommates, whom she
54:52
hasn't spoken with in years. Needless to say, she returned to Vero with
54:57
even great memories HASHT country Roads PSSs. If you don't make the shirt,
55:02
can I get a discount all the best Mike from Vero Beach floor shirt whatever.
55:07
Hey, listen, you can get a commission off the shirt and you'll
55:09
become another person on this program who makes money off of it except for us.
55:15
Get in line texture. Hey guys, Tyler from Morgantown, just listen
55:22
to Thursday's show about Hayes. I believe it's advantage to place the kick instead
55:27
of kicking it into the back of the end zone. If you trust your
55:30
coverage and your kicker, then kick it to the one and tackle them short
55:34
of the twenty five. Neil seems like a sneaky little snake that would try
55:37
to squeak out every yard that he can get to l O L Brad I
55:40
placed a three leg parlay w VU plus fourteen and a half c J zero
55:45
six six point five yards rushing and TCU money line I'm gladly losing my money
55:52
for a win gets hoppy. I need to know the difference in effect,
55:55
affect and efect effect. Could you use it in a sense? Every time
56:01
I read it, I get more confused. I love the show. Let's
56:04
beat the Frogs. Effect effect you can have that, like you affect change.
56:09
You know you've tony, you've been affected by the play of the Mountaineers,
56:14
you're inspired, or you go out and you effect change, you make
56:15
something happen. So that's with an affect. I mean A is affect like
56:20
I was affected by the game, and then use it and then E is
56:23
a fact. I don't know, E is affect. I'm going to affect
56:25
change. I'm going to make something happen. Well, I'm glad, I
56:29
mean I'm not. I'm not in a scholar on that front. That would
56:31
be my best, off the top of my head, explanation real quick.
56:35
On those numbers, Congratulations to all that had West Virginia at plus. Whatever
56:38
number you got there wasn't a bad one. You got it. Congratulations the
56:42
folks that were on the under. That was a pretty obvious move. The
56:45
number moved that way all week. It continued, Congratulations, those had C.
56:47
J. Donaldson anytime touchdown score that you could have got for minus one
56:51
oh five, which I thought maybe been a steel going into that game.
56:53
Congratulations everyone. Last episode, I was talking about those Irish songs, Scottish
57:00
songs, those songs, you know what they're called. You're married, So
57:01
as I say it, you're going, oh yeah, C shanty. Yeah.
57:05
I was gonna say shanty, but that didn't seem right to me.
57:07
See chance see chants shanty s h A N T y C shanty? Is
57:12
that one word? Go? Two words? Two words? C shanty?
57:15
Right together? No? Now right together? Okay, two ways, but
57:19
they're not together. I am not creative when it comes to making rhymes,
57:22
but I'm sure someone can come up with a C shanty about the mountaineers.
57:25
Oh, come on the next episode. I get ready. You've got nine
57:30
pages of C shanty's coming next week. All right, here we go.
57:34
Sorry to have hit san gish. In any event, long time listener,
57:37
first time text. As you can likely tell, in any event, I'm
57:42
the crazy West Virginia fan literally who married a guy from Baltimore via Richmond and
57:45
made a real West Virginia man out of him. You guys in your podcast
57:50
now youtubees have gotten us both through a lot. During the COVID Lockdown,
57:53
I would walk and listen to amazing guests that you guys had on tap,
57:58
then come home to call up those vintage games you spoke about. We've relived
58:01
so many great West Virginia sports moments. Thank you. Our first Bowl game
58:06
to attend with the twenty twelve Orange Bowl, one that we've rewatched many times,
58:09
too many times to count after we attended that number of subsequent Bowl appearances.
58:15
I think the picture of you and me is from Memphis just a few
58:19
years ago, So go ahead. But okay, there you go. Long
58:22
story short. These days, you guys are getting us through much more.
58:25
My husband Dave was diagnosed with leukemia in January of twenty one and continues to
58:30
this day to receive chemotherapy monthly effort. Shirt well done. So yeah,
58:37
he was supporting his shirt and his unending efforting during his one hundred and fifty
58:43
eighth chemo treatment and still counting. I love you, guys. Let's go
58:46
Mountaineers. Sincerely, GG, great Grandma Nancy and Bridgeport by the Eastern Panel,
58:52
Charlestown in Berkeley springs and owners of land in Preston County. So there
58:55
you go. Man, hanging there. Brother, he's truly efforting talking about
59:00
badly. Keep going. Thank you so much, guys, that's fantastic.
59:04
Did she say Charlestown? She was in the Panhandle here, Yeah, yeah,
59:07
your neck at the what's Charlestown She did say Charlestown? Yeah, text
59:10
her going through withdrawal. Guys. For the last three weeks, we've traveled
59:17
from Barbersville to Morgantown. Friday's dinner at oliver Arios Lasagna. Always breakfast at
59:22
the food courts Saturday morning, talking about the food court. Our three guys,
59:25
food court Settim. We're talking with Brad and always buying something from Phil
59:29
at Daniels. I feel bad parking at Daniels if I don't purchase something.
59:34
Now now it's back to the grind of a tough road game. Pregame predictions.
59:38
Okay, so this is before the game. Garrett comes out on far
59:43
defense, falters early, but comes out clutching the fourth quarter. West Virginia
59:46
victory thirty five twenty four. Wishes do come true. That's pretty good.
59:53
Third time text or long time listener. I would like to add myself to
59:58
the list of Kroger Gas hustle. Me and my mom just pulled off another
1:00:01
successful trip to the pump. So I got Charlie and Midlothian has got all
1:00:06
these people scamming that Kroger gas thing. Believe he has got me excited enough
1:00:09
this season to pull off the old NCUBA football fourteen. What a win it
1:00:15
would be tonight if we could get it off. Thanks for all you do,
1:00:17
Signed by Elias Mace at the Seventh Street Kroger Gas station in Parkersburg,
1:00:22
also known as the Deuce McBride Jersey Guy Texter her. I believe it has
1:00:28
been said on here that the resea's shapes are better than the cups due to
1:00:30
the chocolate to peanut butter. Ratio. I made a possible discovery as to
1:00:36
the real reason. I was told that there is more sugar in the peanut
1:00:38
butter to help hold the shape of the candy, therefore making it more desirable.
1:00:44
So they're lacing it with more sugar to keep the thing together. Don't
1:00:47
care whatever they're doing, Ratio, don't care. It's good Elite. In
1:00:52
fact, here we go. Are you ready for some numbers? A text?
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Her? Hello? This is my from the Conley CPA group. Hi,
1:01:04
Mike shiming in with some extra value beyond the numbers on this beautiful Thanks
1:01:08
for having us Sunday Mike. Full disclosure, The following information is not audited
1:01:14
and I provided no good disclaimer. Yeah, so here we go. West
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Virginia had never blocked two field goals in a road game until last night.
1:01:27
It has happened twice at home ninety eight, Boston College thirty five ten Purlow
1:01:32
and Dirty Davis. Hey, Luke, we got those. That's a stet
1:01:37
thing post and James James Dirty Davis two thousand, Miami loss twenty forty seven,
1:01:45
Seth Abraham and Shannon Washington. So he went back to the WV as
1:01:49
an accountant would. He goes up and gets the data very well proves it.
1:01:52
Other notable game blocked field goals resulting in eight Thanks for having us.
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From some memory twenty eleven, Cincinnata, twenty sixteen, Texas and PS please
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remind your listeners with tax returns on extension until October the fifteenth to get their
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information to their accountant as soon as possible. What about the extension now?
1:02:16
He said, With tax returns on if you did an extension in April,
1:02:22
you have until fifteen October to give it in, but he's encouraging it to
1:02:24
not wait until thirteen October. And remember the extension is an extension to file,
1:02:30
not to pay. That's correct. And just remember the Conley CPA group,
1:02:32
to our knowledge, is the only CPA group in West Virginia that doesn't
1:02:37
go, oh, it's extend. We have to get him in. They're
1:02:40
the only they're they're they're they're they're chill, they're chilled out. All the
1:02:44
other ones are running around going yeah, text her hello. Today, my
1:02:52
family and I traveled down to West Virginia South, better known as Myrtle Beach.
1:02:55
As soon as we turned on Ocean Boulevards, about another West Virginia fans
1:02:59
stand on the sidewalk. We're in a David Sills jersey. I of course
1:03:01
had to give him the customary let's go to which he replied, oh,
1:03:06
engineers, a three guys show could definitely happen down here. Also to the
1:03:08
text or last week, who had a shirt idea for the episode eight hundred
1:03:12
side, I've included my similar idea because Central Time, who cares? So
1:03:17
Luke, if you could bring up that picture of the graphic of the T
1:03:21
shirt with the Central Time who Cares? There it is he made made a
1:03:25
shirt what Time Central who Cares? Sponsored by three guys. Brad, you
1:03:35
think that logo of the fly WV think that'd get approved there over but trademark
1:03:38
and license I've probably looked the other way. Text or first timer. This
1:03:45
is Josh from the often neglected Audra State Park writing by the way of Ruby
1:03:52
Memorial. I've been gearing up for the game and loving the optimism around this
1:03:54
year's team. When I didn't realize is how excited are waiting to be born?
1:03:59
Too? Identical? Baby girls are. Mama went into labor and has
1:04:05
been efforting since last night. Somehow no pain yet, hence the text incredible.
1:04:11
The girls are efforting their darnedest to get out and be at a Ruby
1:04:15
Ruby for game time. Man, you're already making me proud. A picture
1:04:19
follow up definition of the efforting mama delivered in fifteen minutes with three minutes in
1:04:24
between. The babies are healthy, not only in time for the game,
1:04:29
but extra rooms. Hell get oh precious with their hands. That's beautiful.
1:04:34
Oh man, Well, I'll tell you what's what was the first name there,
1:04:40
Josh, Josh. I'm the I'm the father of twins. Buckle it
1:04:44
up, buddy, you better be efforting. Here's a here you can get
1:04:48
just here. Here's my suggestion to you. Build a support system around you,
1:04:53
bring in some extra folks. Awesome, congratulations to you. Fantastic it
1:04:58
is text her Garrett Greene's short throws looked like he's playing dodgeball with his receivers.
1:05:04
He got some zip man. There was one of those slants he was,
1:05:10
Oh my god, I'd like to have a radar gun on that.
1:05:12
You know, in a couple of cannon We talked about the receivers needing to
1:05:15
make plays and a couple there was a couple of plays last night. Great
1:05:18
point up. Yeah, we yeah. Cudson Clement made a tough catch,
1:05:23
throw a little bit behind, and by the way, that's what happens.
1:05:26
Not every throw is gonna be perfect. Hudson Clement stops, comes back and
1:05:29
catches a big third down. If I'm not mistaken, how about say hello
1:05:31
as you like say e J. Horton. That absolutely got clocked. That
1:05:35
was that you talked about a great football play. That was a tremendous throw
1:05:40
a great catch that he held onto and a and a really textbook hit that
1:05:44
was a mammoth hit. Hurton holds on catch. Yes, really well done.
1:05:47
And Cole Taylor had a contested catch in traffic. So yeah, that's
1:05:50
a great point that we we hadn't hit the receivers stepped up big last.
1:05:54
Didn't Fox have one two? That was a tough catch. Yeah, I
1:05:57
think I think he might have that went to like four or five catches.
1:06:00
They're like, okay, yeah, that's that's a that's a play. It's
1:06:01
a football play. Not to pee on the parade. However, they still
1:06:05
have to get a lot better dropping a lot of balls. We dropped a
1:06:11
lot of balls again, minimum four drops where the minute where there absolutely you're
1:06:17
not thinking about the defense, are you? Our next texture is not.
1:06:23
Brian from Berkeley Springs writes alert Alert in game text what are these balls greased
1:06:29
with bacon grease? Maybe grease from REVCVS barbecue briskets. There should have been
1:06:33
four interceptions by now Patriots had deflate gate. Let's get at the grease gate
1:06:39
investigation started. I agree. Neil Brown said after the game, gotta work
1:06:44
on the hands. Yeah, this next text Chelsea Parkersburg. I'm gonna use
1:06:49
her as the as the theme text for a bunch that came in, and
1:06:56
we'll just deal with it. Here comes the dreaded in game text. Please,
1:07:00
but please tell me I'm not the only one that thinks C. J.
1:07:03
Donaldson right now is not playing as hard as we all know he can.
1:07:06
Is he afraid of injury? I would not blame him if he was.
1:07:11
But if that's the case, maybe he needs to go back to a
1:07:14
receiver tight end position or running back. Can't be afraid to put their head
1:07:16
down, dry their legs through. Okay, So to the point several of
1:07:21
those texts, and I don't think that there's there's two things at play here.
1:07:27
I can't tell you if he's still concerned about the injury, if he's
1:07:31
one hundred percent healthy or whatever. But why were the yards so tough to
1:07:35
get there? Literally? I talked to Matt More after the game. He
1:07:39
said, at times there were nine. He said, they brought the safeties
1:07:43
down there. So while you might think, well, well, because it
1:07:46
was so outnumbered, and it makes it more and more difficult, So I
1:07:51
get you, But at times the numbers sometimes there is nowhere to go and
1:07:57
also he takes a lot of punishment a lot. One other note, because
1:08:03
we got a lot of traffic on this on our text line last night when
1:08:05
we're doing the game, a lot of people questioning why play calling trying to
1:08:10
run around the outside with CJ versus right up the middle. And I think
1:08:13
the answers a couple of things, just theoretical as you see it, and
1:08:15
that backs up what Matt Morga said. A lot of people coming down.
1:08:18
I think TCU knew CJ wanted to run the ball. Maybe they scout that
1:08:23
as well. So that was one, but number two and this continues to
1:08:26
be a trend. Excuse me, this is not an official con League BABA
1:08:29
group status and set, but but let's just put some actual numbers to that
1:08:32
theory and so just making hypothetical guesses that like a lot of people like to
1:08:35
do. CJ last night, his most successful area of running most yards produced
1:08:42
around the left end. Again not a surprise. Wyatt Milon is generally anchoring
1:08:45
that left tackle position. That's where you seal and get around the left side
1:08:49
rushing direction by team team total in last night's game, West Virginia's most successful
1:08:56
area around the left left edge. They got fifty two yards of their two
1:09:00
hundred and one coming around that side. The next closest gap for West Virginia
1:09:05
beyond that fifty two around the left edge was only twenty one yards. That
1:09:10
kind of came right over the right guard position. So some of those questioning
1:09:14
why do you keep going left? Why do you keep going around the outsides?
1:09:16
That's why. That's that's where some lanes were. That's what West Virginia
1:09:20
has done well this year. A little note there as well. How about
1:09:24
Jahim White. You think he's going to turn the corner a few times before
1:09:27
his careers over? Continue to like him? I see why why he led
1:09:30
the brown mentioned index coming out of the fall. I get it, Texter.
1:09:33
Three guys, Hello, midgame text alert. I gotta give Neil a
1:09:38
lot of credit working the referees to get those huge two defensive holding calls.
1:09:42
I'm by Craig and Oakmond. Thanks excellent calls by the officials. Outstanding John
1:09:47
Texter, thanks for having us drags cleats on midfield logo. Texter, I
1:09:54
have kids in youth sports and injuries are always a concern. They don't play
1:09:57
sports as physical as football. I can't imagine what are Berks's family, friends
1:10:00
and teammates are going through. Its moments like these, they really put things
1:10:03
in a perspective. People complain about the nil money, but really they're putting
1:10:06
their bodies on the line. They aren't guaranteed anything after graduation. Let's hope
1:10:11
the young man is okay. So Tony on that. You know, we
1:10:15
know Layton's injury was serious. What about milem I mean he wasn't in the
1:10:18
game late. We talked about that. Hooked in the eye badly. Oh
1:10:21
really, Oh yeah, talked to about more about that as well. New
1:10:26
masks and there's a big opening on these masks now and I got absolutely straight
1:10:33
into the eye bad. I mean, you know he'll be fine, but
1:10:40
I mean couldn't he was. It was in Remac. That was just a
1:10:44
reinjury. I mean he was hobbled a little bit. To Lasker, he
1:10:45
had an ankle going in and he twisted a knee and which has happened to
1:10:50
him before. So he walking extremely gingerly afterward. He's one of those guys
1:10:59
thinks they don't have to play Saturday. And Brooks was just precaution because it
1:11:03
was up around the head area. Absolutely and had all extremities, even movement
1:11:08
hands lams. Yeah, Texter, if you look up getting back, if
1:11:16
you look up getting back up after taking a punch, you will see this
1:11:21
year's Mountaineer team, the heart Attack Kids, signed by Ben and Chicago.
1:11:27
Uh, here's that? Hey, show me this one. Look at this
1:11:31
bread? You like this? Got a got a swan their clears Thrones.
1:11:35
Thanks for having us, Andy and Charlotte. Texter, Tony, you are
1:11:44
a prophet. Thursday's podcast, you said West Virginia needs to slop it up,
1:11:48
maybe come out with a twenty four twenty one win. We certainly did
1:11:51
great game, Sean Martin, thanks for having us this, Thanks for having
1:11:55
us as unbelieved. It's great line. You think I'm great? You think
1:11:58
that T shirt will be out tonight, possibly tonight, efforting for tonight.
1:12:01
But that's some moving parts there, so hopefully by tomorrow. Check it.
1:12:05
I check it later tonight. Though. As a follow up, it says
1:12:08
I owe an apology to Brad Stredamis, who I understand predicted the blocked field
1:12:14
goal. Thanks for having us. Did you I don't know, did you
1:12:19
go with it? Text? I have no thank you, I have no
1:12:23
nails left to bite. Stress. Virginia is back, signed by barrick not
1:12:29
from Barrickville. Put those pet betting slips up here there you go, all
1:12:34
right, so make these out. So West Virginia winner result twenty four to
1:12:39
twenty one. Did you have got a little boost on that as well?
1:12:41
DraftKings boost put it out there. Hit it got a plus five basically five
1:12:45
to one return on the winner of Western. He just went on the money
1:12:47
line said, don't need your points. You won't give me thirteen n don't
1:12:50
need him. Just take West Virginia on the money line. He did five
1:12:53
to one. Payout well right, next one. Yeah, that was a
1:12:57
great call, easy one under number. He'd been moving down fifty five to
1:13:00
start it, got down to that fifty two, fifty two and a half
1:13:02
before kickoff, took it, got it cashed it never end out next one,
1:13:09
so this is so that's that's pretty good. What's that number? A
1:13:14
number that looks like an alternate line, because you certainly could have got a
1:13:16
better number, and that might have taken an alternate line. They're a little
1:13:18
better payout. Well done, cash it. Yeah, thank you congratulations everyone.
1:13:24
By the way, there is we spend so much time together, and
1:13:26
there's so much talk about this and Brand now were together like twelve hours yesterday.
1:13:30
We talked about these things. I had a dream about Brad last night
1:13:34
or this morning, and I dream brand that Pitt was. I know other
1:13:38
people's dreams aren't interesting, but it just is that Pitt was playing Oklahoma,
1:13:44
and Pitt was favored by thirty six. And so I went to you and
1:13:47
I don't bet. I said, here's twenty dollars, guys, get in
1:13:50
on this now, and we take Tony Dorsett for any time as well.
1:13:55
Put that line text, Kade from Madison, I'm sorry that you're now having
1:14:00
dreams about the lines, Texter Kade from Madison, West Virginia, the home
1:14:06
of the Mountaineer mascot Michael Hager. Am I just crazy a crazy fan?
1:14:11
Or is it very likely West Virginia is seven and one before UCF Oh,
1:14:15
don't do that, Yeah, don't count do that. Don't do that.
1:14:19
I had a couple of people ask about two Mountaineer receivers, Cortez Braham and
1:14:24
Jeremiah Aaron, and both of those have decided to self red shirt, which
1:14:31
means they're gone. Texter Charlie from Midlothian. I'm sending this at eleven pm
1:14:38
Central twelve pm Eastern. Outstanding team win. Thanks for blocking those field goals.
1:14:43
Here's my Midlothian West Virginia connection. My Thomas optometrist is doctor Jenny Elsop.
1:14:48
That's Rob Elsop's sister. She was a member of the Pride of West
1:14:54
Virginia during her days in Morgantown. My annual appointment is always in the fall,
1:14:58
so the first fifteen to twenty minutes before we go in there and get
1:15:00
dental to spend discussing Mountaineer football and basketball. That's great. Rob's official title
1:15:08
is Vice President of Most Things here Most things you ever take text or great
1:15:15
night, great morning to be a mountaineer one word to describe last night ugly,
1:15:19
but I'll take an ugly foreign one any day. Quick question. General
1:15:25
consensus is that West Virginia can't win this way week to week. My question
1:15:29
is why not holding two offenses like TCU and TECH to twenty one and thirteen
1:15:33
points respectively, is beginning to feel less like luck and more like a sustainable,
1:15:39
silent style of play. Obviously would love too, and quite frankly need
1:15:42
to see the offense evolve, but wins. Like the last two of me
1:15:45
believing that the style isn't pretty but it could be effective long term. Great
1:15:49
from Greg from Pittsburgh. Yeah, well said there. And the defense looks
1:15:54
legit, guys. I mean, injuries are going to factor him, but
1:15:56
keep playing. They look and I create the offense. This is a couple
1:15:59
of weeks in a row, and it's been different ways. Two weeks ago
1:16:00
against Texas Tech, I thought Neil Brown Chad's got the offensive staff, great
1:16:04
job with different sets, different formations, different play calls to make some plays
1:16:08
available for Nico and the others that hadn't been there before. And then last
1:16:12
night I thought you saw a great adjustment when that offensive line had to be
1:16:15
reconfigured that Neil turned into the old air raid air. Brown just said to
1:16:18
Garrett Green, go ahead and drop back, start throwing, marched your way
1:16:21
down the field for points. So just again, that's that's what good coaches
1:16:25
do. You adjust to what you have. And West Virginia being able to
1:16:29
cobble together an offense here in points to do enough to allow the defense to
1:16:33
do its work, I think deserves a lot of credit. You're playing with
1:16:36
some real babies there at the wide receiver position. Guys. I mean,
1:16:39
you're playing with guys that probably shouldn't have to play as much as they are
1:16:42
right now, and you're inexperienced quarterbacks either one of those, and you're finding
1:16:46
ways to win games here. Well, great point. And look what a
1:16:50
good coaches due, not what they want to do, but what they can
1:16:54
do. And I think that's what this in line coaching staff has done,
1:16:57
is that this is what we can do and try to try to be tough,
1:17:00
trying not to do but have a bunch of turnovers, trying to have
1:17:02
a bunch of penalties and and you know, muck it up and then and
1:17:06
by the way, I tell you, but defensively they made good adjustments because
1:17:10
the first half we saw something bray that we had not seen yet, and
1:17:13
that was mis tackles. That was a problem the first half frankly got cleaned
1:17:16
up. In the second they did better execution. By the way, speaking
1:17:18
of speaking of not very many penalties, Western it still continues to be pretty
1:17:23
clean. Saw something last night again, the officials just a wonderful job of
1:17:27
officiating last night. I think overall, I think we can all agree absolute
1:17:30
wonderful. I'm not sure I've ever seen a butt clench offensive procedure, but
1:17:35
clench question, butt clench clenched his butt cheeks. I've never seen that.
1:17:42
Hoppy. Well, that was And what rule is that? We we got
1:17:44
a lot officials that listen to this program. I wonder if we could get
1:17:45
a text on the exact rule where it's the butt clenches a cause for procedure.
1:17:50
Well, you saw that because you don't see that very often. Because
1:17:53
when when he signaled it, when the officials signaled it, he came out,
1:17:56
are you demonstrating, you're demonstrating. Now, that's that's how that's how
1:18:00
he did it backed about five yards. A couple of notes on that,
1:18:02
though the field goal was good fifty three and would have been good for longer,
1:18:08
backed him up five yards so from fifty eight and it was darned near.
1:18:12
It was close. It was close, a little bit short, a
1:18:14
little bit to the right, but it was close. But anyway, and
1:18:15
not seen about claims he's quiet. You're just gonna say that. You're exactly
1:18:19
right. Hup, you're exactly right. Yeah, that was a great addition.
1:18:25
You talk about some of the pickups that they've made in the offseason.
1:18:28
Cole Taylor, Beanie Bishop, I mean Tomawa dura jia for Turma molibile.
1:18:36
I'm missing guys. I'm missing guys. But they picked Michael Hayes. They
1:18:41
picked up some dudes. They picked up some dudes. Hey, Luke,
1:18:45
I'm gonna skip the one, but I just emailed you the picture and we'll
1:18:49
go back to that picture after I do this one. That's a lot of
1:18:53
internal communication, it is, but you'll see. Get the producers the intercom
1:18:58
intercom fixed. Yeah, and not fixed. We never had it. Text
1:19:01
her good evening. B Miller here, not Hagar from Hagerstown. The wife
1:19:06
and I are wv alums. Enjoyed our Kirchivel Pilsner in quality time with our
1:19:13
two year old and our newest edition, our five day old baby girl the
1:19:16
Mountaineer win made it all sweeter. Praying for the best for our injured mountaineers.
1:19:21
Quick shout out to our Shrieve and d Blair for getting me back into
1:19:25
the three guys game. Truly the best, keeping up the great work.
1:19:28
Let's go there you go man, five days old picture. It looks like
1:19:31
they might have some really comfortable watching shares nice couple holders there for the kurtch
1:19:36
of El. I think we get some goldfish there. We got a little
1:19:39
goldfish maybe in there. Yeah, he's definitely and he got a kirch ofvel
1:19:43
in his hand there and hop that's kind of like those first class seats you
1:19:45
flew to Afrikaan. Right, pretty nice. A lot of babies getting early
1:19:49
mountaineer wins in their lifetime. Congratulations to them. Yeah, okay, I
1:19:55
assume Luke that we're good. Did he just say one second? Yeah,
1:20:01
he did say one second. I go to another Texter, jubulant Jordan here,
1:20:06
first time Texter. Please let me get credit for being the first to
1:20:14
coin the nickname Blockheart after Mike Lockhart's incredible field goal block tonight versus tcu ye
1:20:20
take that works, Blockheart good? He needs to block another one. Note
1:20:25
to yeah, you know, to reaffirm that. But getting Gritty Bobbio from
1:20:30
Defiance, Ohia via Weirton, relatively new listener after my sister Donna, nephew
1:20:36
Adam from Weirton, and nephew Brian from Chandler, Arizona led me to three
1:20:40
guys just before the season started. You guys keep talking about this football team
1:20:44
being a throwback to the eighties Don Neeland teams. I can go back a
1:20:47
little further and remember being thrilled to get Danny Bugs's autograph outside the old stadium.
1:20:51
Here's my thought. Rather than just a throwback to the seventies and eighties
1:20:56
football, how about the rekindling of the entire athletic department. Starting in seventy
1:21:00
eight, coach Gil Catlet starts a twenty four year career. Fred Schause becomes
1:21:04
the idea a year or two later, and then the nineteen eighties down Neil
1:21:08
and starts and outstanding careers. The head coach, mister Schaus gives way to
1:21:11
mister pass Along. It stays for twenty plus. I can remember coach Blakemore
1:21:15
leading the women's team. Rifle, baseball, wrestling all had long term coaches.
1:21:17
How awesome would it be to see twenty to twenty five years of consistent
1:21:23
coaches wanting to live and work at an incredible university. Is this even possible
1:21:27
or just a wild dream of a mountaineer stuck in the middle of a big
1:21:30
ten country where all start times are listed in Eastern praying that all the injuries
1:21:33
are minor and relatively quick. I don't think that could happen again. Doesn't
1:21:38
really happen much anymore, can't. It doesn't because the money, the money
1:21:41
got too big, which means that people are demanding instant success because they've got
1:21:49
more invested in it. And so I don't think you'll ever see coaches at
1:21:51
twenty years anymore. The things change, social Media's change that there's just too
1:21:56
much crap that goes along with it, and as a result, No,
1:22:00
I think that was an era that's gone. All right, I'm gonna try
1:22:03
this text with Luke, okay before I lose a moment to share this.
1:22:08
My first meeting with you was circa twenty ten with the most incredible people at
1:22:12
the waterfront coaches Corner. I think you remember saying that we'd rather have a
1:22:15
picture made with the coach than you. Coach Stewart and I were both born
1:22:19
in Grafton and just a little over a year apart. I often wonder if
1:22:25
we ever crossed paths as children. There you go, my mad Coach stew
1:22:30
the best. Yeah, it's the best. Oh great, that's a great
1:22:34
picture. Yep. Let's see here. Texter herde Jeremy from Cooperstown in New
1:22:45
York. Good lord, if you only heard the Neil bashing in game from
1:22:49
my cousins in the great state of West Virginia, mostly Brad from Charleston and
1:22:54
Jimmy from Salem. Trust the damn climb baby efforting my question. And this
1:22:59
is funny, but no cause I love Dana. But who's on the hotter
1:23:03
seat, Dana or Neil? Not close right now? Not close? Houston.
1:23:09
Houston took it on the chain yesterday. They were around that game,
1:23:11
really entertaining first half, last fourth, no defense being played, very good
1:23:14
offense. Suddenly the offense disappeared in the second half, all defense, nobody
1:23:16
could score twenty eight all at the half and no scoring by Houston in the
1:23:20
second half. In Texas, Tech pulled away a massive game. Both those
1:23:24
teams badly needed to win. Texas Tech gott it to continue on Dana having
1:23:28
some noise down there around Houston. They're struggling that one corner that didn't play
1:23:31
against us for Tech. Ramirez really good player. He had a pick and
1:23:34
they also returned a kickoff. So those little things and blocked a punt.
1:23:40
Do they get a punt block Houston special block return It might have been returned
1:23:44
for a touchdown with rough day. Yeah, I was returned for stupn score
1:23:45
or something tough day for special teams at down in Houston text or three guys,
1:23:51
three guys, consider the plot twist. Last week, Neil won three
1:23:56
in a row for the first time in his career at West Virginia. With
1:23:58
the win last night against TCU, the Mountaineers now stand three wins away from
1:24:02
seven games remaining for a chance of a seven win season. The best and
1:24:05
Neils record of West Virginia would seven or eight wins, seek and ask of
1:24:12
an extension. With the current contract ending in twenty six, Neil technically couldn't
1:24:16
see his current freshman class through. Yes, here, okay, go ahead,
1:24:25
you go ahead and address this. Here's my thought to this man.
1:24:29
It's October first, right, We've played five games. Why why is everyone
1:24:35
I just like, does anyone ever just like let things happen and then well
1:24:41
evaluate? Well, yes, yes, Tony, Yes, And I think
1:24:44
I think that that for the most part, Mountain Nation is enjoying what's going
1:24:46
on. However, that is a I'm not going to dwell on it today.
1:24:50
I've dwelled on it a lot, but I mean that is a lingering
1:24:53
question. I mean, both things can be true. It can be true
1:24:56
that the Mountaineers are on a remarkable run and this Neil Brown his staff have
1:25:00
done a remarkable job. But it's also true that that decisions are going to
1:25:04
have to be made. Both things are true. But but I would not,
1:25:08
like you, I would not let that question diminish the joy associated with
1:25:15
what's happening at the moment. Well, yeah, and I would just add
1:25:18
to that. I mean, there's there's people where that matters to Neil Brown
1:25:21
being one the coaching staff and other Ren Baker, and there's going to be
1:25:25
discussions coming on on that. But I think what's clearly removed from this moment
1:25:30
is questions about Neil Brown's job status and willing to be back. I think
1:25:32
that's the narrative that got way too much attention early on that can now be
1:25:36
set aside. Not a football left. Put that aside. That's staffs,
1:25:41
not a heck of a job. They're not in jeopardy at this moment.
1:25:45
I guess I need to turn this on text. Can we get an official
1:25:50
ruling on whether or not that was a Thanks for having us game, Adam
1:25:55
in Melbourne Australia. Well, I think we've established by name and now it's
1:26:00
one of one of the all time great thanks for having us texture. Although
1:26:02
our ears will probably be ringing for the next few days from that darn TCU
1:26:06
p aces, it is still a great night to be a mountaineer, especially
1:26:11
in Fort Worth. Let's go mountaineers. I mean, are they afraid that
1:26:15
some that somebody will not be able to hear? Yea? You know the
1:26:18
PA was ridiculous. How about these pictures? So this is from these textures.
1:26:23
So they do a great job there at TCU at the Frog Alley thing.
1:26:26
So go ahead. As the night went on, a couple more picks.
1:26:30
Look at that moon. Oh it was really did you see that?
1:26:33
Oh yeah, I was right above the stadium and we had a debate whether
1:26:36
or not it was full They said it wasn't a full moon. No,
1:26:41
it was close. Pat sergeant, who's our engineer, who's a pilot?
1:26:45
Pat also flies, I said, Pat, as that fully goes. No,
1:26:47
there's still a little piece. I said, okay, fine, I'll
1:26:49
go with you. I was gorgeous. It's a pretty campus, right,
1:26:55
gorgeous campus. Yeah, just you know what we were walking into the stadium
1:27:00
and uh Dwight Wallace said this, and it's true. This place reeks money.
1:27:08
It's just you just feel it. It's just it's just it's in a
1:27:13
it's in a neighborhood, just gorgeous. It's a really nice place, a
1:27:16
lot of money in Fort Worth. I talked to some people there and they
1:27:19
said, this is old Fort Worth money. We're looking down at their area.
1:27:23
They gotta they gotta set up as nice as as an NFL city where
1:27:28
people, you know, have this big deal like it said, it's like
1:27:31
it's like over in Pittsburgh and for Steelers game, just this massive, gorgeous
1:27:36
food area. It's just like a pro stadium. Right, So that's a
1:27:41
deal. All right. I think we've come to an end, So let's
1:27:45
bring folks up to what we're doing. Since we don't have a preview episode
1:27:49
this week. With no game this weekend, we will be doing a special
1:27:56
episode excuse me, tomorrow afternoon. It will be released on Wednesday. Is
1:28:04
there any more information on that for those who might be participating, And since
1:28:10
we're doing this internally, are you available after your show tomorrow, Well,
1:28:14
let me see, let me check my schedule. Yes, I'm the film.
1:28:16
Okay, so we're gonna do it. Should we do it? Do
1:28:19
we see who the guest is? Sure? All right, Sure, go
1:28:24
ahead. Okay, she came to fame obviously Pennsylvania native. Last week she
1:28:30
was at the Kansas City Chiefs game Taylor Swift. That's not right, that's
1:28:35
not right. That didn't get confirmed. Oh, we we're gonna say,
1:28:41
we're gonna spend time with the first ever general manager of West Virginia football,
1:28:46
Drew Fabianice. Okay, and we're gonna get him in here and we're gonna
1:28:50
talk about this whole world. Being a general manager. He brings a tremendous
1:28:58
background with him from the professional ranks, being with the Dallas Cowboys I think
1:29:03
seventeen or eighteen years and heading up their scouting deal and then this whole world.
1:29:10
Interesting. Guy's got a gazillion stories. Okay, yeah, that'll be
1:29:14
fun. Yeah. So, like he's the guy that when we watch games,
1:29:17
you go like that, guys go play in the NFL, and he'll
1:29:20
go like, no, he's not gonna play the NFL because obviously you know
1:29:27
he's got this, that and the other thing, and goes like, at
1:29:29
best he'll be on a practice squad, but we'll make it so he knows
1:29:32
and so he's a valuable resource inside football progress because why college teams are becoming
1:29:40
like pro teams, and he can tell these kids exactly what they need to
1:29:45
do and what's realistic and the whole thing and brings great perspective. So he's
1:29:50
a it's it's gonna be fun. Okay, we'll do it tomorrow. We'll
1:29:55
release it on Wednesday, and then the following week. We got a weird
1:29:59
week week because the Houston games on Thursday, so slated to record Tuesday,
1:30:03
October ten. On Tuesday October ten is the preview edition. Will come back
1:30:08
on Friday the thirteenth with the review of Houston. We know this, Hoppy,
1:30:13
because he and I sat down last week and we hammered out the things
1:30:15
without you being involved. That's fun, it's trying to help you, hop
1:30:18
I appreciate it. We just just tell me when to show up, keep
1:30:20
things. That's exactly what we do. Kind of like the way this whole
1:30:24
thing's work, Like hey, Hoppy, we'll need you here. Then you'd
1:30:26
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