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NFL Camps are here, Lets peak around the League with Chris Landry · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We're glad to have in our good friend, Chris Landry
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  Speaker 1: landryfootball dot com, Landry Football my next Chris, Welcome in, sir.
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  Speaker 1: It is August fifth. It is almost here.
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  Speaker 2: It is getting closer and closer. I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: the time's gone, but it's here.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, it is so, Chris. I have to ask.
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  Speaker 1: I know the answer is going to be no. But
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  Speaker 1: just for fun, do you get all giddy for the
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  Speaker 1: coaches poll? And why don't we call this the coaches poll? Still?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, are we really to believe that the coaches
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  Speaker 1: are voting on this?
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  Speaker 2: No? Not don I only remember Spurry would say that,
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  Speaker 2: because he's the one that would would admit to anything.
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  Speaker 2: I guess he just said he voted in the top
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  Speaker 2: twenty five year regardless. I bet they were good. He
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  Speaker 2: just yeah. I wouldn't take it seriously. And no, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not anticipating it. At the top, you'll see the usual suspects,
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  Speaker 2: and then there'll be some surprises. The only thing I'm
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  Speaker 2: concerned about is are you going to you? Is that
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  Speaker 2: as some sort of a guide if you're voting, And
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  Speaker 2: I don't like that. I think we really need to
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  Speaker 2: just you know, three or four games at least to
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  Speaker 2: get a feel for you who are the best teams?
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  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you one hundred percent. Now, when
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  Speaker 1: you say who are you voting? Are you referring to
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  Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff Committee?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that they don't. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's just natural to begin to think that certain. They
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  Speaker 2: look at it as a certain you know, starting point.
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  Speaker 2: I think the reason why we have the the the
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  Speaker 2: committee start in October because it gives you enough weeks.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think there's some inherent biases on hall
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  Speaker 2: of team is ranked per season. I do. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's only humans. So that's the only thing that would
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  Speaker 2: concern me about it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't even gonna go down this way,
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  Speaker 1: but you bring up some interesting questions, and I've got
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  Speaker 1: some NFL stuff I want to get with you on
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  Speaker 1: as well. So you go into the year, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: and we're just gonna use today's coaches poll is the
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  Speaker 1: most recent example. So Georgia one, Ohio State two, Oregon three,
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  Speaker 1: Texas four. I don't think the committee would have problems
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  Speaker 1: with those teams simply because they're in your face so much.
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  Speaker 1: Alabama even at five if they win Ole miss at
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  Speaker 1: six you know, but if you get down, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: let's just say a team like Oklahoma at sixteen and
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  Speaker 1: I'm just picking one out of the back in and half,
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  Speaker 1: where do you do you rank Oklahoma? Are they really
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  Speaker 1: watching all these games? Like, for instance, we know someone
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  Speaker 1: like yourself does we know other people that are in
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  Speaker 1: the business that are you know, knee deep in the
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  Speaker 1: in the weeds. So to speak on Coole Kublick, he
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  Speaker 1: watches games, you have to feel like he does. He
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  Speaker 1: puts the stuff out there. Are these people on this
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  Speaker 1: committee really watching these teams?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? That concerns me. So you make a great point,
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  Speaker 2: all right, So and that's to remind everybody, not that
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  Speaker 2: they need reminding, but for this conversation, well, picking twelve
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  Speaker 2: and so when you start to look at well they
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  Speaker 2: got you know this many wins over top twenty, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you're basing that on what because you start looking at
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  Speaker 2: a team right now and trying to figure out it
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  Speaker 2: is not that difficult to say, hey, you know, Georgie's
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  Speaker 2: really good. Now whether you want to put them one
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  Speaker 2: or three or four, it doesn't really matter, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: But exactly right, the difference between somebody ranked sixteenth or fortieth.
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  Speaker 2: Really you don't really know. Well, if there's a perception
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  Speaker 2: that one team is better and they get ranked early,
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  Speaker 2: then they're ranked against the team that that won a game,
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  Speaker 2: and then they say, well, yeah they at the time
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  Speaker 2: they were ranked, Well why were they rank that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's based on four weeks or inherit biases that they
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  Speaker 2: were ranked, not not overtly, but just well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma's pretty good. You know, I started off in the
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  Speaker 2: top point. I don't say that, but you think they
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  Speaker 2: might think that, and that's that's one of the things.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, I don't really I don't really do it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't have to to to rank come necessarily,
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  Speaker 2: but this is maybe how I think a team is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, going into the season. It might be pretty good,
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  Speaker 2: it may be completely wrong, and I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: it is easy for everybody to justify that, Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we were completely wrong on that team.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Landry on your radio Monday edition of the program.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure to find it Landry Football also landryfootball dot com. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I wonder, I mean, there's money to be made
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  Speaker 1: on these shows, right, these shows that they start doing
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  Speaker 1: the college football Playoff. You know, each each Tuesday they
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  Speaker 1: do the drop of people watch it. You can sell it,
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  Speaker 1: you can monetize it. There's money to be made advertising
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  Speaker 1: and such. Will we ever get to a point where
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  Speaker 1: a committee is not needed? We don't need a committee
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  Speaker 1: for the National Football League, We don't need a committee
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  Speaker 1: for Division two in AIA high school football, Chris, we
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  Speaker 1: don't need a committee, but we have to have one
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  Speaker 1: in college.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we could be going to that, because
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  Speaker 2: if you start to think about it, do we have
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  Speaker 2: do we have everything at some point where two major
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  Speaker 2: conferences and we have at large's or we have spots
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  Speaker 2: available kind of like let's use the NFL an example.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need a committee there. We never have, of course,
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  Speaker 2: well we you know, every era of the time you
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  Speaker 2: hear these people, not that it matters, they've ranked who
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  Speaker 2: are the top teams in pro football. We don't really
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  Speaker 2: get all that upset over, or you shouldn't because you're
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  Speaker 2: you know, if they make it, they get in. But
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  Speaker 2: it's possible that you could have a pretty good team
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  Speaker 2: that meant not so much anymore since we've added so many,
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  Speaker 2: but still possibility that you've got a weaker team gets
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  Speaker 2: in automatically because they won a weak division, a four
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  Speaker 2: team division, versus maybe a team that doesn't win their
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  Speaker 2: division but they're in a much stronger division. Well, think
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  Speaker 2: about that. In terms of college football, I think we
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  Speaker 2: get to the point where, you know, all right, the top,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know, the three or four teams and
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  Speaker 2: the big conferences get in, and if we've just got two,
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  Speaker 2: then it takes it out of it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But then, you know, I wonder do we ever are
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  Speaker 2: we ever gonna get comfortable enough to say that, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: four teams from the SEC or the Big ten should
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  Speaker 2: make it. I don't know that I ever want to
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  Speaker 2: think that. I think because there could be a really
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  Speaker 2: good team or a couple of them that are deserving
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  Speaker 2: that are outside that league, and I think we need
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  Speaker 2: to allow for that. So it's gonna be more difficult
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  Speaker 2: because of the amount of teams, But since we're going
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  Speaker 2: to twelve, if we go to sixteen, you can see that, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you'll win. You know, maybe you break it down in
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  Speaker 2: the conference in divisions. I think there's a formula because
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  Speaker 2: we have them in pro sports by which we can
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  Speaker 2: eliminate the committee. But you just hit it. People are
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  Speaker 2: gonna sit there and you know, just clamor for every
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday when the committee comes out on the first fall,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe they got this team six over eight,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, oh my goodness, we're really having that.
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  Speaker 2: Does that really warrant a discussion? Because it's really much
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  Speaker 2: to do about nothing until we get enough of these
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  Speaker 2: games under.
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  Speaker 1: Our belt, Chris, I'm ask you this before we got
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  Speaker 1: a break, and then I we'll get some NFL as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was looking at some the top ten
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  Speaker 1: college football coaches on winning percentage. Ryan Day is number
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  Speaker 1: one on active coaches at eighty seven point five percent,
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  Speaker 1: followed by Kirby Smart, John Summer.
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  Speaker 2: All.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is regardless of you know, G five
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  Speaker 1: P five, the top guy in the country eighty seven
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  Speaker 1: point five percent is basically been told whin or go
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  Speaker 1: home or do something else. Chris, How did we get
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  Speaker 1: to this point? Does the Michigan matter for them that much?
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  Speaker 2: You know, for Michigan and Ohio State, it always has
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  Speaker 2: mattered a whole lot. Let's remind folks how many games
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  Speaker 2: John Cooper won at Ohio State. Now he could never
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  Speaker 2: beat Michigan, and it was a problem. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I mean he was on the hot seat for years now.
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  Speaker 2: He survived it for a while, but he was in
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  Speaker 2: that same bolt that Ryan Day's in for like five years.
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  Speaker 2: And so I guess now, let me say this, if
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  Speaker 2: they lose to Michigan, they still get into the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: and if they advance far into the playoffs, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna have to get over the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: lost the Michigan. And they will because you do have
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs to make up for it, like if they
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  Speaker 2: get to the to the National Championship Game or or
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  Speaker 2: win or certainly if they win it. I mean really
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  Speaker 2: losing the Michigan, you know, and that's the one loss.
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  Speaker 2: They're not gonna like it, you know, losing to their rival,
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  Speaker 2: but they're gonna get over it. I think we're in
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  Speaker 2: a different world. I think back in the day, as
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned with John Cooper, where you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: lost the Michigan then that was it. You wouldn't go
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  Speaker 2: into the rose Ball and you certainly had no kids.
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  Speaker 2: You lost everything. Now I think there's another path for
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  Speaker 2: some to get into the playoffs, get hot, and they
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  Speaker 2: can make everybody forget that they lost to their rival,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's what it is. But if he loses,
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  Speaker 2: and then he also loses like a big game in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs where their favorites in either a high seed,
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  Speaker 2: that's just where we are now. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: because he hasn't won one, I think he's feeling a
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  Speaker 2: lot of heat and I think it is ridiculous. But
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that I think are ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: and it's just reality in today's sports world.