Latest / High n' Dry Podcast / Episode 24. So You've Just Committed Vehicular Manslaughter & Jake the Dog vs. Gandalf (Feat. Luke of Talk Far Gaming)
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- 0:15SPEAKER_03: We're gonna see which one of us is a shit bag.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: Um I'm gonna just go ahead.
- 0:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and let you know it's me.
- 0:24SPEAKER_01: It is me.
- 0:25SPEAKER_01: You gotta say that again on the podcast, because that's a good one.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: I'm recording.
- 0:32SPEAKER_03: We gotta repeat that material.
- 0:35SPEAKER_03: Until Earth, Wind and Fire lets me use September as our intro music, I just record a little early and catch some bullshit.
- 0:45SPEAKER_01: It's like a more authentic, a more genuine intro vi intro, anyway.
- 0:49SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
- 0:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 0:50SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
- 0:50SPEAKER_03: I'm just I'm trying to hear my voice here real quick, make sure it's not gonna pull any bullshit.
- 0:55SPEAKER_03: I'm just good.
- 0:56SPEAKER_03: James, can let me hear you real quick.
- 0:58SPEAKER_03: Hello.
- 0:59SPEAKER_03: Hello.
- 1:01SPEAKER_03: Hello.
- 1:02SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
- 1:03SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 1:03SPEAKER_03: Hi, everyone.
- 1:04SPEAKER_03: Thanks for joining us.
- 1:05SPEAKER_03: Welcome to High and Dry Podcast.
- 1:07SPEAKER_03: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
- 1:09SPEAKER_03: With me as always, we have James Crosslin.
- 1:11SPEAKER_03: James, how's it going?
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's going pretty well.
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: It's going pretty well.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: Uh this week has been a long week.
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: It feels like do I say that every podcast?
- 1:19SPEAKER_01: It always feels like a long fucking week.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: It's been a long week, every podcast.
- 1:24SPEAKER_03: Well, with us this week, joining us again.
- 1:27SPEAKER_03: We have Luke from Talk Far Gaming.
- 1:28SPEAKER_03: Luke, how long has your week been?
- 1:31SPEAKER_01: Uh I would say about as long as everyone else is.
- 1:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's been it's been a fucking week.
- 1:39SPEAKER_03: Unending nightmare.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: So yeah, glad to say it's Friday and I'm in the end of the week now.
- 1:46SPEAKER_01: I have to say.
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the show, everyone.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: Everybody's enjoying their morning ride to work.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: Life is meaningless.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the show.
- 1:56SPEAKER_03: Oh shit.
- 1:57SPEAKER_03: So, welcome to High and Dry.
- 1:59SPEAKER_03: How High and Dry works is our first half of our show.
- 2:01SPEAKER_03: We talk about some shit that really doesn't matter.
- 2:04SPEAKER_03: We philosophize, we do this and that, and then it devolves into a fist fight because we've been drinking.
- 2:09SPEAKER_03: Because on this show, we do these things high andor drunk.
- 2:13SPEAKER_03: So that being said, before we get into our topic and before we get into our fist fight, we gotta get drunk, we gotta get high.
- 2:19SPEAKER_03: James, what are you smoking this week?
- 2:21SPEAKER_01: This week I'm I'm bringing back one of my old faves.
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: Uh I've got Bellini.
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it it tastes exactly like a fucking peach bellini drink.
- 2:32SPEAKER_01: It's so good.
- 2:33SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 2:34SPEAKER_01: It tastes awesome, so I'm excited.
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: I'm glad.
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: I'm glad.
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: Luke, what about you?
- 2:38SPEAKER_01: I'm doing a strain called Platinum Bubba, and I have to say, it's been kicking my ass.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: So today should be interesting.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: Is it a is it a platinum Girl Scout cookies mix?
- 2:49SPEAKER_01: Like I can't no, dude.
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: I don't even like I don't I honestly am not sure why it's even called Platinum Bubba.
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: It's pretty uh because there's a strain Bubba.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: I know that I think it's just honestly like a a substrain of it type of deal, but yeah, I'm not I'm not sure.
- 3:03SPEAKER_03: Cool.
- 3:04SPEAKER_03: Nice, nice.
- 3:05SPEAKER_03: And uh looks like we'll all be enjoying ourselves because one more time I'm bringing back my pink witness.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna be one more time, you know.
- 3:13SPEAKER_01: I see like three-quarters of a bottle there.
- 3:15SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get at least one more out of it, please.
- 3:17SPEAKER_03: Well, no, this ain't gonna make it through the weekend.
- 3:21SPEAKER_03: Like it's weekend now.
- 3:22SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 3:23SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm excited to be drinking on it.
- 3:25SPEAKER_03: It's sugar and vodka that I've started drinking like it's lemonade.
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: Have it at the old picnic.
- 3:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, at the just the company party.
- 3:37SPEAKER_03: There, oh, there's Ryan with his pink Whitney.
- 3:41SPEAKER_01: You know, we're probably gonna be drinking a few more of those recently because it is like barbecue season.
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited for barbecue season.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: I haven't grilled in a while.
- 3:48SPEAKER_01: I'm excited to get back out there and do some grilling.
- 3:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, and you know, if there's a few, there's some hope with all the vaccine, maybe we'll be able to do a little more this summer.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: So a little more normalcy, yeah, for sure.
- 3:58SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll see what happens.
- 3:59SPEAKER_03: We'll see what happens.
- 4:01SPEAKER_03: So this first one is to Carl Urban and to our guest, Luke.
- 4:08SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: I heard the bong.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
- 4:20SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 4:21SPEAKER_03: Oh, so um the second one, this one is going out to Mariner's Harbor, New York.
- 4:29SPEAKER_03: How many people were in Mariner's Harbor?
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: Are you shouting out one person?
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: It's one guy in Mariner's Harbor.
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: You don't know it's a guy.
- 4:37SPEAKER_01: Wasn't it like 56% of our listeners are women?
- 4:40SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which is statistically people women like getting it's high and drunk too.
- 4:45SPEAKER_01: Come on.
- 4:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I suppose I suppose you're right.
- 4:47SPEAKER_03: I suppose you're right, ladies.
- 4:48SPEAKER_03: I apologize.
- 4:49SPEAKER_03: This one's to Mariner's Harbor, whoever you are, this this is for you.
- 4:59SPEAKER_03: I I'm imagining this, like uh, you know, it's it's a fisherman's village, and there's like this kid who doesn't want to be a fisherman.
- 5:07SPEAKER_03: He just wants to listen to high and dry.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: He just wants to get high in this big ass sweater.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: So how's uh how's talk fire going, Luke?
- 5:19SPEAKER_01: Honestly, it's going real well.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: Um I feel like every time we stream, we're getting a little bit better at it.
- 5:25SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, working out kinks, and uh yeah, each time we're you know we're getting slowly gaining followers and stuff like that, and honestly, I'm just having fun doing it.
- 5:34SPEAKER_01: So until that stops, that's that's when I'll stop it, no matter what.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's it seems like it's going good, you know, and it seems like people are believing in it, kind of seeing what we see.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: So I'm having a lot of fun with it.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: That's great, man.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my Twitch stream is going willy, you know, surprisingly, I didn't expect to get anything out of my Twitch stream, but I got like I got like a whole bunch of subscribers.
- 5:55SPEAKER_01: A bunch of rotisserie chickens.
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people keep buying me rotisserie chickens left to right.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: It's great.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: What kind of what games do you uh stream on Twitch?
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: I stream uh programming uh stream games, yeah.
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: I stream JavaScript programming.
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: See, but I think that's super interesting.
- 6:10SPEAKER_01: Something you like educational, but it's like entertaining.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: You do you don't necessarily have to like pay attention fully if you don't want to, but you can still get you know, it's very, very cool.
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: And I and I build some goofy shit while I get high.
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: People people people can spend their channel points to get me high to make big naps.
- 6:30SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's fucking yeah, that sounds like a good thing.
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna have to pop in for sure and and and make watch it see how high I can get you through throughout the the stream.
- 6:40SPEAKER_03: I dropped$500.
- 6:44SPEAKER_03: We could just see through the stream that James lost consciousness about 30 minutes ago.
- 6:49SPEAKER_01: There was 45 minutes of James sleeping on live camera.
- 6:53SPEAKER_03: You gotta get an automated automated spritzer.
- 6:56SPEAKER_03: So even when you lose consciousness, Luke could spend 10 bucks and you just see this misting.
- 7:03SPEAKER_00: I totally blanked out on my last stream.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: I was like, someone asked me a question.
- 7:08SPEAKER_00: I was like, huh?
- 7:11SPEAKER_03: But I just want to see your three minutes from corpse just lying there, comatosed, and then I can spend two dollars, and there's a gentle that just gets you more high.
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: I'll have to install it.
- 7:29SPEAKER_01: That'll be great for the stream.
- 7:31SPEAKER_03: We just hotbox them.
- 7:34SPEAKER_03: The whole world hotboxes them.
- 7:36SPEAKER_03: Um, so uh yeah.
- 7:37SPEAKER_03: So listeners, keep an eye out for that.
- 7:39SPEAKER_03: We're gonna have the James Crossland hotbox experiment.
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: It will be entertaining.
- 7:45SPEAKER_01: I suggest you tune in.
- 7:48SPEAKER_03: So yeah, keep an eye out.
- 7:49SPEAKER_03: Um, so our third shot, third hit, Luke, what's it too?
- 7:53SPEAKER_01: The third shot, this shot is having outside endeavors in your life that um that you're inspiring to be and following them through and not just working a corporate nine to five and enjoying some things outside, and hopefully they take off and uh perspire to be.
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: So all three of us are kind of doing that, and I wanna cheers to that.
- 8:13SPEAKER_03: To self-actualization, self-actualization.
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: I'll try to do that.
- 8:21SPEAKER_01: Corporations, I gotta say, my least favorite kind of person.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 8:27SPEAKER_03: I agree.
- 8:29SPEAKER_01: And the Dutch.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: It's a shame that corporations are people, it's so fucked up.
- 8:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 8:37SPEAKER_03: So speaking of corporations, people, it's time to move in to our question of the week.
- 8:43SPEAKER_03: So this one, I uh I wasn't sure if we were going to do the classic um how many fourth graders could you kill?
- 8:51SPEAKER_00: I mean, just like in general, like how like how many could I hunt down and kill?
- 8:56SPEAKER_03: I mean the indefinite, but um in in like a you know, a ringed sort of, you know, like at the first round of our show, you know, how many fourth graders graders could you take out?
- 9:05SPEAKER_03: In each in each scenario.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: If it was just me and a number of fourth graders in a ring, I'd say like 40.
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: Probably.
- 9:15SPEAKER_00: 40, 40 is a strong, solid number.
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: I think I could just swing around at like waist height and I'd take them all out.
- 9:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm throwing one one kick at a body level.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: That's three heads, four heads done right there.
- 9:28SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, i in the ring, it it's gonna be pretty.
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: I I agree with James.
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: No, no more than 60, though, for sure.
- 9:35SPEAKER_02: More than 60.
- 9:37SPEAKER_01: Because at that point, they're just they're too many, they're gonna overpower you.
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: It's just what are you gonna do?
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: They're gonna form a tower of fourth graders and beat the shit out of you.
- 9:45SPEAKER_01: There's no those 20 extra virus.
- 9:48SPEAKER_03: They're so single-minded.
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: How are they doing this?
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: Fourth graders notoriously cooperative.
- 9:55SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah, no, definitely, without a doubt.
- 9:57SPEAKER_03: But I mean, if I could get them like my back against a wall or something and just keep kicking.
- 10:02unknown: Yeah.
- 10:02SPEAKER_03: Second round, yeah.
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: Second round, I don't think the fourth grader could get me.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: I think in the number of players that you could kill is unlimited.
- 10:10unknown: I can turn the car.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, they can't even catch me.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: I turn the car around.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: They're on bikes or whatever.
- 10:20SPEAKER_01: Well, let me spin the question a little bit.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: How many fourth graders could you beat in rounds at a time with a seventh grader boss every tenth round?
- 10:33SPEAKER_03: Ooh, a seventh grader boss?
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: I'd still say like 500 kids.
- 10:38SPEAKER_01: They take like it's one hit for a fourth grader, and then like three hits for a seventh grader.
- 10:43SPEAKER_03: But then, I mean, you get like Luke, who was held back four or five times.
- 10:47SPEAKER_03: Seventh grader with a beard.
- 10:49SPEAKER_01: With a tattoo and beard.
- 10:50SPEAKER_01: Hey, smoke.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: I'm here for your boss fight.
- 10:54SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
- 10:55SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
- 10:59SPEAKER_01: Uh and in that case, that's where I stop at round 20, probably, and just ask to go home.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: Wow, what have they been feeding you?
- 11:09SPEAKER_03: He drives.
- 11:13SPEAKER_03: All right, which brings us into our real question.
- 11:16SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 11:17SPEAKER_03: So um, for this particular question, it's gonna now this so there's there's an obvious moral obvious again answer.
- 11:26SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 11:27SPEAKER_03: Okay, but what's that's the one I pick.
- 11:28SPEAKER_03: What this question will require you to do is to put yourself in this position and to uh you know, admit it on a recorded podcast.
- 11:40SPEAKER_03: So you are driving late at night.
- 11:42SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
- 11:43SPEAKER_03: The streets are empty, it's like uh it's uh you know, country road, you know, 3,000, whatever.
- 11:50SPEAKER_03: Um no one's coming for miles, right?
- 11:52SPEAKER_03: No one's coming for a long time.
- 11:55SPEAKER_03: You're driving, you're listening to the newest share album.
- 12:01SPEAKER_01: And um, you just really gotta get my hit of ultraviolence for the day.
- 12:05SPEAKER_03: You gotta get your hit of ultra share violence today.
- 12:09SPEAKER_03: Um, and and that's a that's a relatively new thing that's come into the show, Cher and her propensity for ultraviolence.
- 12:16SPEAKER_00: Um she's right there with Carl.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: Um she was surpasses Carl in a very scary way that I want nothing to do with.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: Oh, Cher, ma'am, we apologize.
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I get that, yes.
- 12:29SPEAKER_01: I I understand.
- 12:30SPEAKER_01: I I feel that too.
- 12:32unknown: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:33SPEAKER_03: Um and uh oh, there's a Sonny Bono joke there, but um leave it alone.
- 12:40SPEAKER_03: Um so you're driving, listening to Cher, you're just cruising, everything's fine, not a car for miles around.
- 12:47SPEAKER_03: There won't be a car for fucking hours.
- 12:49SPEAKER_03: You slam into a man.
- 12:51SPEAKER_03: Um, you get out of the car, you inspect this corpse that you have created.
- 12:56SPEAKER_03: Obviously, I mean he's cruising around the country roads in the middle of the night.
- 13:01SPEAKER_03: You're pretty sure he's homeless, no one will miss him.
- 13:05SPEAKER_03: He could be a werewolf.
- 13:06SPEAKER_03: He could be a werewolf.
- 13:07SPEAKER_03: Maybe you did the world of service.
- 13:10SPEAKER_03: Um the question then is what do you do?
- 13:13SPEAKER_03: I mean, you keep driving, you report this.
- 13:17SPEAKER_03: What happens next?
- 13:19SPEAKER_03: Guests first, Luke, you have just killed a homeless man um the middle of this empty, deserted road.
- 13:28SPEAKER_03: You're looking at uh you're you mean you're looking at manslaughter here.
- 13:32SPEAKER_03: Um what happens?
- 13:36SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 13:37SPEAKER_01: Was he jaywalking?
- 13:39SPEAKER_01: No.
- 13:40SPEAKER_01: That's the first possibly.
- 13:44SPEAKER_01: No.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: Was he protesting something?
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: Because then in a lot of states, this would have been completely okay.
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you sound like that asshole.
- 13:53SPEAKER_03: Well, let's look at his criminal record, because that justifies his death.
- 13:57SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay, no, but in all honesty, I would love to think I pick him up and do the right thing.
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: But middle of the night, I have to say, humanly, I would panic and fucking drive the fuck off right then and there.
- 14:13SPEAKER_01: I would, I would it would be it, I would not, I would hu like instinctually just be like, fuck, this is uh uh I'm boom boom.
- 14:23SPEAKER_01: Couldn't even think, honestly.
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't be able to are like our t get a good thought to decide what to do, and I'd just go.
- 14:30SPEAKER_01: I would I can just imagine you panicking, like I could totally see it.
- 14:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I could totally see it.
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: You described it really well.
- 14:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 14:37SPEAKER_01: Pretty much that, honestly.
- 14:39SPEAKER_01: That was this whole sentence I just said would would be my thought process, and then I would peel out.
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: So, but yeah, it and that I'd have to say that that's probably what I would do in all of it.
- 14:49SPEAKER_03: Is peel off, get the fuck out of there.
- 14:51SPEAKER_03: Get to the nearest uh um uh what's the uh what's the car wash in Grand Theft Auto that wipes away your notoriety?
- 14:59SPEAKER_03: I have no idea.
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: I don't I can't remember.
- 15:02SPEAKER_01: That's a deep dive.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: Who looked at the name of the car wash?
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: You just drive to the car.
- 15:05SPEAKER_03: Well, it was like Saints Row with Freckle Bitches.
- 15:08SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't remember anything from those games either.
- 15:10SPEAKER_03: I was fucking I was 31 years old when I realized that Saints Row with Freckle Bitches being the fast food place of choice, they were referring to Wendy.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Wendy's freckles that just came to me.
- 15:28SPEAKER_01: But anyway, um But yeah, I and but I would like to say, I think if I after I like got wherever I fucking decided to go, calmed down, I would probably look to handle it in a different way, whether it be to try to anonymously re anonymously report it or something like that.
- 15:45SPEAKER_01: It may not, you know, I still I have to say I'm gonna try to not get in trouble.
- 15:49SPEAKER_01: I mean, at the end of the day, it's you know, if it wasn't it was a genuine accident, he's he's jaywalking in a country road.
- 15:56SPEAKER_01: I'm you know what I'm listening to Cher.
- 15:58SPEAKER_01: I'm having a great day.
- 15:59SPEAKER_01: So, and then you know Are you sure, sir?
- 16:02SPEAKER_01: You said you were listening to Cher, but were you driven to ultraviolence?
- 16:08SPEAKER_01: Was this Cher's doing it?
- 16:10SPEAKER_01: Are you a part of the conspiracy?
- 16:12SPEAKER_01: Do you know, sir?
- 16:13SPEAKER_01: Do you know what's happening?
- 16:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah, do you guys remember like mom's against Cher?
- 16:19SPEAKER_03: That was so so those are so we have initial thoughts.
- 16:25SPEAKER_03: I'll I'll come back around um because I have you know, just to kind of add some flavor to it.
- 16:30SPEAKER_03: But James, initial thoughts, you've slammed into a homeless man.
- 16:34SPEAKER_03: No one will ever know.
- 16:36SPEAKER_01: It's it's a shame that Luke's answer was like reflective of how our society handles when somebody in this case makes a mistake.
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: You know, it did result in in harm to one person, but we don't have faith that anyone would that the system that would judge us would see us in a in a light that would give us any kind of benefit of doubt.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: Um I can only imagine how much worse it is for people who the system has marginalized directly.
- 17:08SPEAKER_01: Like not none of us, we're all white men, you know, but it would suck to be anything else.
- 17:13SPEAKER_03: Our audience didn't know that.
- 17:15SPEAKER_03: Well, we are.
- 17:17SPEAKER_03: We just lost Mariner's whatever the fuck in New York.
- 17:20SPEAKER_03: Arbor.
- 17:23SPEAKER_01: He really does love you.
- 17:24SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 17:25SPEAKER_01: He'll remember you're down.
- 17:26SPEAKER_01: I'll make sure.
- 17:28SPEAKER_01: Um but um I I would still have to um I would still have to stop.
- 17:36SPEAKER_01: It would suck, but I uh I would be haunted by it, I'm sure, if I left and didn't uh and didn't do something.
- 17:46SPEAKER_03: And that is uh there there is I mean there there's just so much to unpack here.
- 17:54SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, you know, the first of this of course is like we're we're in this system, you know, where we're numbers and it's like you killed that guy, um, this particular prison needs the money this year.
- 18:08SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 18:09SPEAKER_03: You're getting lost in the system.
- 18:11SPEAKER_01: So goodbye.
- 18:12SPEAKER_01: You're definitely gonna do like 10 years if you don't take this three-year plea deal, even though they're only offering you that because they can't charge you with because they don't have enough evidence to prosecute you.
- 18:23SPEAKER_01: But it's a tactic that works very well to keep the system running efficiently and putting people in jail quickly.
- 18:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 18:30SPEAKER_03: Um, so I mean they're gonna get me in jail fast.
- 18:32SPEAKER_03: Um and so for me, yeah, and I'll I'll eventually add, you know, the this sort of you know, thinking onto it.
- 18:42SPEAKER_03: So I'm on this deserted, this deserted road.
- 18:46SPEAKER_03: I've just killed a man.
- 18:48SPEAKER_03: And and honestly, I feel that the question itself shouldn't um trivialize his life because he's homeless.
- 18:55SPEAKER_03: All it does is state all it does, and and that that's you know That's a commentary on how we view homeless people.
- 19:01SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 19:02SPEAKER_03: All that's doing is stating to the listener that no one gives a shit.
- 19:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is which sucks.
- 19:08SPEAKER_01: It really sucks that that's the association, is that they won't be missed and that their life is that their life does mean less.
- 19:15SPEAKER_01: That's a very frustrating thing our society does to frame homeless people.
- 19:20SPEAKER_03: Because of the fact that he's of a lower class, it is completely put on me, the High and Dry Podcast philosopher, to decide if I pay for this at all.
- 19:30SPEAKER_03: Um and shit, man.
- 19:35SPEAKER_03: Um when you put it that way, I don't want to pay for it.
- 19:39SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 19:39SPEAKER_03: I don't want to pay for it.
- 19:40SPEAKER_03: Nobody does.
- 19:41SPEAKER_03: No.
- 19:42SPEAKER_03: Nobody does.
- 19:42SPEAKER_03: And and so the question, I guess, is can I live with the guilt of knowing that I took this man's life?
- 19:50SPEAKER_03: Um no.
- 19:52SPEAKER_03: I think that it will haunt me for a long time, but I don't I but at the same time, I don't think that giving myself to this system is going to absolve me of that in any way.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:07SPEAKER_03: Um, so I will drive away.
- 20:11SPEAKER_00: But we're we're like so heavily tracked that that you driving away may make it into a crime.
- 20:18SPEAKER_01: Like it may not have been a crime before, but driving away may make it into a crime.
- 20:22SPEAKER_03: If you want me to say it, James, I'm dragging him out into a field, I'm leaving my cell phone on the road, I'm chopping him up into little pieces.
- 20:31SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
- 20:34SPEAKER_03: And I'm burying him out there.
- 20:36SPEAKER_03: Burying the car.
- 20:37SPEAKER_03: I'm burying him inside the car.
- 20:40SPEAKER_03: You know what?
- 20:40SPEAKER_03: Actually, I'm going to die on the road, and I'm going to make it look like he killed me.
- 20:48SPEAKER_00: Just take this aside, and you're going to slam your body into the car over and over.
- 20:53SPEAKER_00: I'm going to make it look like the homeless man hit me with my vehicle.
- 20:59SPEAKER_01: I'm not going down as a criminal.
- 21:01SPEAKER_01: I won't be remembered as a criminal.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: I got a book to sell.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: Taken down in the prime of his life after having his car stolen.
- 21:11SPEAKER_00: He turned around and hit me.
- 21:17SPEAKER_03: I mean, the cops are looking at all the evidence.
- 21:21SPEAKER_03: And it's like, sir, uh, Ryan North, the way you set this up, it appears that the homeless man stole your vehicle from your home, along with your cell phone, drove out miles away from your home onto this country road and slammed into you where you were walking.
- 21:39SPEAKER_00: You're not dead in this case, you just got injured.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: You just is that is that what the because at the end of the day I wouldn't be able to do it.
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: You'd be you'd knock yourself out, just be laying there and you get saved.
- 21:54SPEAKER_00: This hurts too much.
- 21:55SPEAKER_00: I can't keep doing this.
- 21:57SPEAKER_03: This is painful.
- 21:59SPEAKER_00: Then I'll be like the freaking homeless population in this country, I swear to God.
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: The cops will be like, oh yeah, we know.
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: We perpetuate it.
- 22:09SPEAKER_03: So uh Luke.
- 22:11SPEAKER_03: Final thoughts here.
- 22:13SPEAKER_03: You've just struck this homeless man.
- 22:16SPEAKER_03: And I mean it's been dictated that whether or not you pay for this is up to you because of this man's status.
- 22:25SPEAKER_03: And you know, paying for it means no more talk for our gaming, no more coming on to high and dry as a guest, no more, you know, we were we had our third toast was to self-actualization.
- 22:36SPEAKER_03: There's no more of that because you're getting lost in the system for the next 10 years.
- 22:41SPEAKER_03: But you did just take this man's life.
- 22:45SPEAKER_03: So Luke, final thoughts.
- 22:47SPEAKER_03: What happens?
- 22:49SPEAKER_01: Was it definitely our fault?
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: Is that the scenario?
- 22:52SPEAKER_01: Like we like we what's the scenario?
- 22:54SPEAKER_01: Is it the same?
- 22:55SPEAKER_01: So the scenario is the same.
- 22:56SPEAKER_03: It's just now we've had a moment to kind of think about it here.
- 22:58SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 22:59SPEAKER_03: I thought the scenario changed.
- 23:00SPEAKER_03: Never mind.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: So uh honestly, I I still I still say I would panic and drive away.
- 23:07SPEAKER_01: Um and that would be my initial thought, and I still think that even when I calm down, that that would be my my my decision.
- 23:17SPEAKER_01: So I would say I would I would drive away, not suffer the consequences, but I do have to say I would probably do the same if it was a hiker.
- 23:27SPEAKER_01: Okay, it doesn't matter.
- 23:29SPEAKER_01: A child uh doesn't matter.
- 23:31SPEAKER_01: Why is their child hiking in the middle of the night?
- 23:35SPEAKER_01: He was messing for Jess anyway.
- 23:38SPEAKER_01: I was listening to chair.
- 23:40SPEAKER_01: I don't care if it's a baby, I don't care if it's an old lady, I'm driving, I don't care if it's my old mom, I'm driving off.
- 23:48SPEAKER_01: So I have to say I I would, I would, I would drive, drive off in this scenario.
- 23:53SPEAKER_03: Okay, James.
- 23:55SPEAKER_01: Damn.
- 23:56SPEAKER_03: So I appreciate your honesty.
- 23:59SPEAKER_03: You heard it here first on High Drive Podcast.
- 24:01SPEAKER_01: Talk car gaming strikes homeless people with cars.
- 24:06SPEAKER_01: I figure I figure out how to tie myself up and then throw myself in the trunk.
- 24:13SPEAKER_01: Like my car was stolen.
- 24:15SPEAKER_01: Someone hit this person and then ran off.
- 24:18SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's pretty genius, honestly.
- 24:20SPEAKER_03: So all right, so you would take it further and more professionally.
- 24:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm gonna more professionally staged that this is not my fault.
- 24:31SPEAKER_01: I th I think honestly, I would I would just I would uh I guess if you if you touch the body, I mean I would I was gonna say I'd bury him, but as soon as you touch the body, if they find that, you're gonna just get found.
- 24:43SPEAKER_01: Like that's to you immediately murder.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: Like that's clearly murder at that point.
- 24:47SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I guess it's just never mind.
- 24:50SPEAKER_01: No remorse for this guy's body.
- 24:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no remorse for this guy.
- 24:54SPEAKER_01: I'm out of there.
- 24:57SPEAKER_01: Well, James, your final thought?
- 24:59SPEAKER_01: I I when now that we've talked about like how the system is pretty unjust and uncaring.
- 25:09SPEAKER_01: Um I, as a marijuana user, uh, it is in my fat soluble cells for like 90 days after I smoke it, especially because I'm a frequent user.
- 25:20SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't matter if I was high or not, they'd say that I was, no matter what.
- 25:25SPEAKER_01: That's the kind of system we live under.
- 25:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 25:27SPEAKER_03: Um that's gonna make us some good money.
- 25:29SPEAKER_03: What?
- 25:30SPEAKER_03: It's gonna you putting your ass in jail for a drug charge on top of that?
- 25:33SPEAKER_03: That's gonna make us some decent cash.
- 25:35SPEAKER_00: They're gonna everyone listen.
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: The podcaster goes to jail for murdering man with vehicle.
- 25:41SPEAKER_03: No, we're all screwed for this episode.
- 25:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're near us, there's been a hit and run and we're going away.
- 25:47SPEAKER_03: But it's just it's damn it.
- 25:50SPEAKER_01: It it's just really frustrating that the that we can't trust the system we live under to fairly assess um situations.
- 25:57SPEAKER_01: It just it really blows um Am I am I gaining anything by throwing myself into the system and and putting truth out there?
- 26:05SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't know.
- 26:07SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 26:08SPEAKER_01: If the man's dead, he's dead.
- 26:12SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't know.
- 26:14SPEAKER_01: I'd probably con I'd probably be standing there contemplating it in the headlights with this dead man at my feet.
- 26:20SPEAKER_01: Before the next car pulls up.
- 26:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:22SPEAKER_01: I found this car.
- 26:26SPEAKER_01: I ministered to me.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: I was walking by and I was like, what is happening here?
- 26:29SPEAKER_01: So I decided to investigate.
- 26:31SPEAKER_01: I was jogging, listening to Cher, and I I would like definitely go to jail even if it wasn't anyone's fault, you know, if it was just an accident.
- 26:42SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
- 26:42SPEAKER_01: Just because I had marijuana in my system.
- 26:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because that last episode you did where you talked about this very thing.
- 26:49SPEAKER_03: Um yeah.
- 26:50SPEAKER_03: Um, and then for me, damn.
- 26:53SPEAKER_03: Holy shit.
- 26:54SPEAKER_01: Well, you you know, the difference is you don't have like you wouldn't have weed or booze in your system or anything.
- 26:59SPEAKER_01: No.
- 27:01SPEAKER_03: But, you know, I at the same time So look, it I mean, I think it I think it's been very well stated that all three of us would feel bad and very guilty about what we have done here.
- 27:15SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 27:17SPEAKER_03: And I, you know, and a lot of this system that we're talking about has been sort of set up just to appease the the eye for an eye mentality of the you know of of the citizen who's propagating it and uh that allows the continued profit of it.
- 27:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:39SPEAKER_01: Um it's an injustice to call it the justice system.
- 27:43SPEAKER_01: There is no justice.
- 27:44SPEAKER_01: It's not what justice is not punishment, it's not locking people away.
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: Justice is is is making the victims or or or the people who were hurt by someone's actions feel better about it.
- 27:57SPEAKER_01: We should, we should, we should have a caring approach, um, a personal j a personal link to justice in our community.
- 28:05SPEAKER_01: It's really frustrating that yeah, that they're totally divorced.
- 28:09SPEAKER_03: Um, and so yeah, for me, honest answer.
- 28:12SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's definitely a selfish element to it.
- 28:14SPEAKER_03: I'm not ready to just forfeit my life for the say for the sense of morality.
- 28:20SPEAKER_03: You know, I I there's things I want to do, there's things I still need to accomplish.
- 28:25SPEAKER_03: Um I will always regret, feel bad about the situation that happened here.
- 28:33SPEAKER_03: Um, and I'll say that what's the point of ruining, you know, of ending two lives.
- 28:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:39SPEAKER_03: And I I know that my detractors will say that, you know, you're using that as an excuse to, you know, to escape that sort of justice.
- 28:47SPEAKER_03: And you're right.
- 28:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 28:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 28:51SPEAKER_03: Correct.
- 28:51SPEAKER_01: I don't really trust the system to dispense justice properly.
- 28:54SPEAKER_03: But at the same time, you you can't really dispute the validity of what anyone here is saying.
- 28:59SPEAKER_03: You know?
- 29:00SPEAKER_03: Um, so all right.
- 29:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:04SPEAKER_01: It really, it really sucks that I can't do the right thing because the system sucks so hard.
- 29:09SPEAKER_01: And yeah, because you'd like to think that that they'd see the accident, they'd see, you know, it I mean, it does happen, you know, things like that.
- 29:16SPEAKER_01: And I mean, you may you may need to do community service or something to just pay be a be more say you need to be more aware, whatever, to to kind of just get you a little bit, but something that'll serve back and something like that, maybe, but you know, that's not gonna happen.
- 29:31SPEAKER_01: You're gonna you're gonna go and be uh now a non-conductive member of society and probably going forward because system is a cycle usually.
- 29:40SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and they're not gonna try and rebil rehabilitate me at all.
- 29:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 29:45SPEAKER_03: Um, so uh There is no justice for anyone.
- 29:48SPEAKER_03: No, so I I would say, look, if if if I knew that the system was going to be, you know, they were gonna look at this as an accident, they weren't gonna look at this as, you know, meeting a quota, and if if I could trust it, of course, you know, I'd fucking call the police.
- 30:04SPEAKER_03: Let's get down here, let's get this solved.
- 30:05SPEAKER_03: But I can't.
- 30:07SPEAKER_03: I can't.
- 30:07SPEAKER_03: And I'm frankly, I'm not willing to end my life today for an accident.
- 30:13SPEAKER_03: I will always, you know, regret and feel terrible about what occurred.
- 30:20SPEAKER_03: Um, but I I'm not willing to end two lives tonight.
- 30:25SPEAKER_01: So if uh if anybody hits me and you legit it was a legitimate accident, feel free to drive away.
- 30:32SPEAKER_01: Oh, hell yeah.
- 30:33SPEAKER_01: And say, and honestly, thank you.
- 30:35SPEAKER_01: Because you know what I mean.
- 30:36SPEAKER_01: I don't have to go to work tomorrow, so I appreciate that.
- 30:40SPEAKER_01: You've saved me from this capitalist hellscape.
- 30:42SPEAKER_03: And and if our if our third toast was any indication, anyone on the show today, if and and this, and you could use this in court.
- 30:51SPEAKER_03: Hey, if you legitimately accidentally hit me, I was listening to Cher, I wasn't paying attention, and I stepped out in the road.
- 31:00SPEAKER_03: I don't want you to end your life because you ended mine.
- 31:04SPEAKER_03: It was an accident, it's all good.
- 31:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 31:07SPEAKER_01: I might keep a note on me from now on that says that.
- 31:10SPEAKER_01: If you hit me, just in your wallet, if you accidentally hit me, you can go.
- 31:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's all good, man.
- 31:15SPEAKER_01: Present this to a judge.
- 31:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is a legal document.
- 31:19SPEAKER_01: It's cool.
- 31:20SPEAKER_03: It's fun.
- 31:21SPEAKER_03: Shit happens.
- 31:24SPEAKER_01: Shit happens.
- 31:25SPEAKER_01: Sign Luke Thievey.
- 31:28SPEAKER_03: Which brings us into the next part of our podcast.
- 31:33SPEAKER_03: It's time before we get into it, we had a fist fight for you today.
- 31:36SPEAKER_03: Before we get into it, though, we gotta get a little more drunk.
- 31:39SPEAKER_03: We gotta get a little more high.
- 31:42SPEAKER_03: Now, this one usually goes to our combatants, and I think it still will, but I also want to add that shit happens is going into this toast machine.
- 31:50SPEAKER_03: Who's this to?
- 31:52SPEAKER_01: Which number is this?
- 31:53SPEAKER_01: This oh, this is the one before the fight.
- 31:55SPEAKER_01: So this one is I'm pretty high.
- 32:00SPEAKER_01: So uh so this one goes out to our two combatants for the night.
- 32:05SPEAKER_01: Gandalf, the the both gray and white, uh, I assume.
- 32:10SPEAKER_01: However, he's more powerful as white, so I guess it'll be Gandalf the white for this one.
- 32:13SPEAKER_01: And then Jake, the dog.
- 32:16SPEAKER_01: Only the dog.
- 32:18SPEAKER_01: Jake the dog from Adventure Time.
- 32:21SPEAKER_03: So cheers.
- 32:22SPEAKER_03: Here's to Gandalf, here's to Jake, and here's the shit happens.
- 32:25SPEAKER_03: If you hit us with a car, it's all good.
- 32:28SPEAKER_00: If it was an accident, if it was an accident, holy shit.
- 32:35SPEAKER_03: All members of High and Dry Podcast struck by vehicles today.
- 32:41SPEAKER_00: In a string of accidents.
- 32:48SPEAKER_02: Oh god.
- 32:50SPEAKER_03: It's time for our fist fight.
- 33:03SPEAKER_03: Today, of course, we have Jake the Dog versus Gandalf in general.
- 33:08SPEAKER_03: And we do this in three rounds.
- 33:10SPEAKER_03: Round one, fight club style.
- 33:13SPEAKER_03: Brad Pitt looks on Ring's side while these two characters remove their shirt, shoes, and belts, and punch each other to death.
- 33:19SPEAKER_03: Meanwhile, the high and dry group with Carl Urban and Cher, if she's in the mood, will look down from above and see what's going down.
- 33:27SPEAKER_01: We can't say no to her.
- 33:28SPEAKER_03: No, if she wants to be, if if Cher wants to be in the box office, she's gonna goddamn be in the box office.
- 33:33SPEAKER_01: I don't want, I don't want some like over-the-top bloody massacre to happen in the box.
- 33:38SPEAKER_03: No, even even Tyler Durden.
- 33:41SPEAKER_03: Brad Pitt is Tyler Durden with a yes, ma'am, right this way.
- 33:45SPEAKER_01: Ushering her up to the box.
- 33:47SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, ma'am.
- 33:48SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
- 33:49SPEAKER_01: I want to bathe in the physical violence.
- 33:53SPEAKER_03: Just share.
- 33:54SPEAKER_03: I want to bathe in the blood.
- 33:56SPEAKER_03: Yes, ma'am.
- 33:57SPEAKER_03: Yes, ma'am.
- 33:58SPEAKER_03: I'm Tyler Durden if you need anything.
- 34:03SPEAKER_03: Round two goes, resooms out, and now we have a city view where these two characters have received a manila envelope underneath their apartment doors, and they know that they have to kill the other one in the next 24 hours.
- 34:16SPEAKER_03: They're allowed their tactics, their weapons, the everything that they have that makes them full, and they get to do it.
- 34:23SPEAKER_03: And then round three is the same thing as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
- 34:28SPEAKER_03: So, round one, the two characters have just stepped into the ring.
- 34:31SPEAKER_03: Jake the dog is like bending and shit, and Gandalf is removing his robes and slowly, slowly getting ready in his corner.
- 34:44SPEAKER_03: He looks at Brad Pitt and he says, Would you deny an old man his walking stick?
- 34:48SPEAKER_03: And Brad Pitt goes, Yes.
- 34:51SPEAKER_03: That's the fucking rules.
- 34:52SPEAKER_03: And he looks up at Cher and Cher nods.
- 34:56SPEAKER_03: Um, so the two characters are in there.
- 34:59SPEAKER_03: Let's get it on.
- 35:01SPEAKER_03: Guests first, Luke, who's gonna take it?
- 35:04SPEAKER_01: So, in all honesty, um at a first look, I mean, Gandalf is very powerful.
- 35:11SPEAKER_01: You know, you might think uh Jake might be just, you know, dog silly cartoon, but for those of you who have actually watched Adventure Time, you will are well aware that Jake and Jake's just his body is a very powerful thing.
- 35:26SPEAKER_01: Um so, in my first opinion, um, it's gonna be Jake the Dog, because there is pretty much no limit to um what he can turn his body into to kind of make that fight his.
- 35:40SPEAKER_01: Um, and honestly, I do have a trump card I don't want to say like yet, but I do want to hear what you guys have to say.
- 35:47SPEAKER_01: But I I do think it would be a win for Jake the Dog.
- 35:52SPEAKER_01: James, your thoughts?
- 35:53SPEAKER_01: So Gandalf is is really powerful.
- 35:56SPEAKER_01: Um, he he's really hard to kill.
- 35:58SPEAKER_01: I think that's really important is that Gandalf is like is very hard to kill.
- 36:03SPEAKER_01: Um he died and came back to life.
- 36:07SPEAKER_01: Um but uh but I think that death would count, you know, the where he dies the first time then comes back stronger.
- 36:15SPEAKER_01: I think this death would count for the for beating him.
- 36:18SPEAKER_01: Um I think Jake's just incredibly powerful shape shifting uh uh would take Gandalf down.
- 36:25SPEAKER_01: Gandalf usually fights with a sword and a staff.
- 36:27SPEAKER_01: He just does.
- 36:28SPEAKER_01: That's his thing.
- 36:29SPEAKER_01: He's got weapons.
- 36:30SPEAKER_01: Um, but Jake doesn't need weapons.
- 36:34SPEAKER_01: Alright.
- 36:34SPEAKER_01: Alright.
- 36:35SPEAKER_03: Jake's body's a weapon.
- 36:37SPEAKER_03: So you feel that uh okay.
- 36:39SPEAKER_03: So I feel I feel what you're saying.
- 36:41SPEAKER_03: So if so from my side of it, I I me personally, I'm gonna defer a little bit.
- 36:46SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna say it's gonna go to Gandalf.
- 36:47SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 36:48SPEAKER_03: So I'm talking, um, we're talking at, we're looking at Tolkien's uh Silmarillion.
- 36:53SPEAKER_03: Um we know from that that Gandalf is not some old man.
- 36:57SPEAKER_03: Um that's just the form that they chose to take.
- 37:02SPEAKER_03: Um and it this so essentially within this universe, Gandalf is he was created at the beginning of time, and he was sent to Middle Earth as a sort of angel, essentially.
- 37:16SPEAKER_03: Um, and right now he's taking the gloves off against some fucking dog.
- 37:20SPEAKER_03: Um, granted, the dog can get wiggly and change his shape, but uh, you know, I think that um with that being well that that actually so then I have also a side statement to that.
- 37:34SPEAKER_03: Um Gandalf, for example, he came back to Middle Earth because the god of this universe decided that Gandalf's job was not done.
- 37:44SPEAKER_03: So I will say that if the god of the universes decided that the job is to kick the shit out of Jake the dog, Gandalf can't be stopped.
- 37:54SPEAKER_03: But if this is a pit stop, um, you know, then if then Gandalf can be stopped, and you know, he'll come back as Gandalf the alabaster for the next round where he actually has to go take on some shit.
- 38:08SPEAKER_03: Um well, so so Luke, uh what are your thoughts?
- 38:11SPEAKER_03: And then can we get a vote out of you?
- 38:13SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
- 38:15SPEAKER_01: So I honestly I am not gonna say the god uh god you know the god running this universe is all that keen on uh Brad Pitt's fight club.
- 38:26SPEAKER_01: Um and he I don't think he cares.
- 38:27SPEAKER_01: So um, count as bringing in help also.
- 38:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 38:32SPEAKER_01: Um, so in my opinion, that doesn't really take play in this, and while Gandalf, you know, is not necessarily an old man, he definitely fights like an old man without a sword and staff.
- 38:44SPEAKER_01: So I I say Jake the Dog's still gonna take round one.
- 38:48SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 38:49SPEAKER_01: James?
- 38:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would say that um I would say that dying and then coming back is part of Gandalf's story.
- 38:56SPEAKER_01: Uh and just instead of a ballrog, it's gonna be Jake the Dog.
- 39:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gonna be Jake the Dog.
- 39:02SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, Jake and Jake Jake has has experience fighting magic users.
- 39:09SPEAKER_01: He fought the Lich, who ended the Lich was powerful enough to end the whole universe.
- 39:13SPEAKER_03: Um and he fought the Lich and won, so solid points, solid points.
- 39:20SPEAKER_03: Um I'm gonna say Jake still.
- 39:22SPEAKER_03: Alright, and uh the only thing I I would say is just that you know when Gandalf fought this ballrog, it it wasn't you know the the fall and the 30 seconds that you saw in the movie.
- 39:35SPEAKER_01: It was like a mile and a half.
- 39:36SPEAKER_03: The the the well, I mean on top of that, so they as far as the um the fiction is concerned, the two of them were fighting for I think it was a I think it was a week.
- 39:48SPEAKER_03: Like they were fighting for a long fucking time.
- 39:50SPEAKER_03: But he had a sword and a staff.
- 39:52SPEAKER_03: That's the shits, though.
- 39:53SPEAKER_03: And that's what we're saying, so he needs a sword and his staff.
- 39:55SPEAKER_03: Um so round one is gonna go to Jake the dog, which moves us in to round two.
- 40:02SPEAKER_03: Round two, these characters have just received a manila envelope underneath the slit in their apartment door.
- 40:09SPEAKER_03: Um they both now know their tree house, their extraplanar area.
- 40:18SPEAKER_03: Luke, guess first, who's gonna win?
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: Um so there's one thing um that Jake by himself has a very special ability.
- 40:29SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know if you guys if you guys have watched like a show, but he um at one point um turns into like a giant monster, um, which is like a four-eyed giant blue being, which is actually his true form.
- 40:44SPEAKER_01: Um uh and it's uh it's a much more powerful being.
- 40:48SPEAKER_01: So that's gonna take obviously he's gonna try to take his most powerful form, like Gandalf is gonna, you know, take his most powerful form.
- 40:55SPEAKER_01: So they're gonna kind of that'll that's kind of how it's gonna start.
- 40:59SPEAKER_01: Um but with that being said, we discussed a lot in the last round how Gandalf's inherited ability to either prolong or very you know, endure fights and to you know overcome so much adversity at times.
- 41:15SPEAKER_01: Like he's got like he can come over, uh overcome whatever he really needs to at the end of the day.
- 41:21SPEAKER_01: Like he was sent here to do um do that.
- 41:24SPEAKER_01: And this is where I think it gets a little more serious and um where Gandalf will have a lot more power.
- 41:30SPEAKER_01: So I do think Gandalf probably will take the second round.
- 41:34SPEAKER_01: Alright, James.
- 41:35SPEAKER_01: So this is interesting.
- 41:37SPEAKER_01: So in the second round, I would say uh, you know, like I said, Jake does have have some experience against magic users and more powerful, more powerful magic users than Gandalf without his sword and staff.
- 41:53SPEAKER_01: But with his sword and staff, he is actually well he it's in his story that he's excellent at fighting large beasts when he has his sword and specifically large beasts.
- 42:07SPEAKER_01: He also he also fights hordes of orcs and shit, but mostly he's really good at fighting large animals.
- 42:14SPEAKER_01: He he took on that Balrog, he fought it for a week, like you said.
- 42:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that would be yeah, probably more powerful than the Blue Jake the dog.
- 42:25SPEAKER_03: Well, so it's also an interesting point.
- 42:27SPEAKER_03: If you really get into the the meat of you know Tolkien's work, um the Balrogs, they're a they're sort of a fallen version of Gandalf.
- 42:36SPEAKER_03: So he wasn't just some nasty fire creature rolling around in a a mountain.
- 42:42SPEAKER_03: He was he was a Gandalf equivalent.
- 42:45SPEAKER_03: I think there's only he's an ancient you know, and and like and there's you know uh Lord of the Rings fans are gonna get pissed at me because I don't know the numbers off the top of my fucking head, but um there's only so many ball rocks, just like there's only so many wizards.
- 42:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 43:00SPEAKER_03: Um, and so it what we saw there and what wasn't really illustrated in the movie was that wasn't just a wizard fighting some creature he found in a mine.
- 43:08SPEAKER_03: That was a wizard fighting his evil equivalent.
- 43:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 43:12SPEAKER_03: And fighting his evil equivalent, Gandalf came back, yeah um, fought this dude for a long amount of time, and eventually slayed him.
- 43:23SPEAKER_01: And and the descriptions of Balrogs are pretty interesting, like in the book, that they're they're they're like formless shadow.
- 43:29SPEAKER_01: They're not it like they get they're they're shadow that takes a form, but they're like, but they're also shapeshifters.
- 43:35SPEAKER_01: So like Gandalf specifically has experience in this.
- 43:40SPEAKER_01: He could put it on his resume.
- 43:41SPEAKER_01: I have experience fighting things similar to Jake the Dog.
- 43:45SPEAKER_03: Um, and and that being said, I would also, you know, just for my thoughts on it, so in within you know the literature, Gandalf is described as he's the one who like leans on his staff the hardest and he really hams it up the most.
- 44:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 44:00SPEAKER_03: But the people who encounter him, the people who deal with him, you know, the people who sleep with him, they tend to say that he is the wisest.
- 44:07SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
- 44:07SPEAKER_03: Um, so I also think that in this new environment here where he has his abilities worked out, he's gonna have a plan.
- 44:15SPEAKER_03: Also.
- 44:15SPEAKER_03: And you saw that with fucking you saw that with Frodo.
- 44:18SPEAKER_03: He did bring his plan together.
- 44:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 44:20SPEAKER_01: He was he's fucking Hannibal from the A Team.
- 44:22SPEAKER_01: Ah, love it when a plan comes together.
- 44:24SPEAKER_01: But he doesn't have his team.
- 44:26SPEAKER_01: He doesn't have his team.
- 44:28SPEAKER_01: He has to do it, he has to do it on his own.
- 44:31SPEAKER_01: So but I think specifically with that fighting experience.
- 44:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which states that this might still be a tough one.
- 44:35SPEAKER_03: But uh so Luke, final thoughts and a vote.
- 44:39SPEAKER_01: Um final thoughts are Gandalf with his sword staff and full um scale plan, a uh ability to make a plan, um, is gonna be able to slay Jake the dog, um, especially in a beast form.
- 44:57SPEAKER_01: Um, and honestly, I don't I don't see any anything that he's gonna be able to shapeshift into to that's gonna be more powerful than a than a Balrog's.
- 45:05SPEAKER_01: Um so at the end of the day, I think Gandalf takes it.
- 45:09SPEAKER_01: Alright, James.
- 45:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Gandalf.
- 45:13SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then I'm also I'm gonna be saying Gandalf.
- 45:16SPEAKER_03: Which brings us into round three.
- 45:19SPEAKER_03: So round three is the same as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend, guests first.
- 45:26SPEAKER_03: What do you think's gonna happen?
- 45:27SPEAKER_03: Who are they bringing, and who's winning?
- 45:30SPEAKER_03: Luke?
- 45:31SPEAKER_01: So honestly, I'm not really sure who Gandalf would bring, because uh there's uh so I kind of want to hear you guys' opinions, but I do know there's obviously multiple options that hit for this one.
- 45:43SPEAKER_01: There are multiple people on the team that he'd bring.
- 45:46SPEAKER_01: Uh Frodo is like a solid one, obviously.
- 45:49SPEAKER_01: He has the that inherent hero um uh ability type of deal to to overcome and great things.
- 45:57SPEAKER_01: But um as far as uh Jake, I think it's pretty obvious that he would want to bring Finn.
- 46:04SPEAKER_01: Um they have a dynamic that is very strong, they they complement each other very well and they um both they they kind of gain power from each other almost by using uh like friendship almost as a tool.
- 46:19SPEAKER_01: So um um kind of initial thoughts, I think it's gonna be a hard uh a very strong fight, but I think with Finn's also hero, um, you know, he is the the main character hero cartoon kind of a um taking that into account, he I think Finn and Jake would be able to overcome um Gandalf and really whoever he chooses from the team.
- 46:45SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 46:46SPEAKER_03: Now, so James, I have an immediate thought.
- 46:50SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 46:51SPEAKER_03: Would you mind?
- 46:52SPEAKER_01: Um go for it.
- 46:53SPEAKER_01: I I have a thought too.
- 46:55SPEAKER_01: You go for it.
- 46:55SPEAKER_03: Alright, so I think so I think that Gandalf is either going to bring Finn or Choco Berry.
- 47:05SPEAKER_01: Gandalf is gonna bring Finn?
- 47:08SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 47:08SPEAKER_03: Now let me explain.
- 47:11SPEAKER_03: So, Gandalf rolls into a universe and he takes the most unassuming character and turns them into a hero, which is why I say Choco Berry from Adventure Time Universe.
- 47:25SPEAKER_03: Um, I think Gandalf will show up in this universe, he'll see what's going on, he'll he'll because he's such a firm believer in that it's the the smallest and most pure of us that have the power to change the most.
- 47:39SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
- 47:39SPEAKER_03: And I think you know, if it's if Jake brought Finn already, I think that Jake and Finn are gonna be so preoccupied by Gandalf himself, they won't see Choco Berry coming from behind to deliver whatever the fuck item will destroy them all.
- 47:56SPEAKER_01: So this is my first thoughts of James.
- 47:59SPEAKER_01: I thought uh I thought Gandalf was gonna bring a giant eagle.
- 48:06SPEAKER_01: Also powerful, also incredibly powerful.
- 48:09SPEAKER_01: But I mean like they're also ancient beings, yeah.
- 48:12SPEAKER_01: Like they didn't really talk about that, but the eagles are also like ancient, powerful beings.
- 48:16SPEAKER_03: Well, even his fucking horse is the king of horses, yeah, the king of horses, exactly.
- 48:21SPEAKER_03: And but I think that's the that's the most important thing in third round is that Gandalf's key power in any book and bring he can recruit whoever he needs to recruits the best person for the job.
- 48:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's his power.
- 48:34SPEAKER_01: Even if you don't believe it's that person, at the end of it, he's gonna be like, I fucking told you.
- 48:38SPEAKER_01: He's gonna convince like Princess Bubblegum to fight Finn and and Jake.
- 48:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or he or he might, you you're right that he might because here's Luke, what I was thinking when you said Jake brings Finn.
- 48:50SPEAKER_01: There's a problem with that, and that is that Finn is good.
- 48:55SPEAKER_01: Finn is good, but he's also good to the point that he's not pragmatic.
- 49:00SPEAKER_01: You know, he's like he's in he's very good, and Gandalf is like willing to let some people get hurt in order for his plans to happen.
- 49:10SPEAKER_01: Um and Gandalf's realistic.
- 49:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 49:13SPEAKER_01: Gandalf is realistic, and Finn is not.
- 49:16SPEAKER_01: He is he is very he's very good in nature, and I don't think he would fight Gandalf immediately.
- 49:22SPEAKER_01: He's like fight an old man with a stick, yeah.
- 49:28SPEAKER_01: Gandalf would be like, nope, I'm not gonna, I can see that this person is incredibly good hearted, and if I don't personally fight, he won't fight.
- 49:37SPEAKER_01: Ooh, okay.
- 49:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so then it then it's just can Jake the dog be a giant eagle.
- 49:44SPEAKER_00: Whoever Gandalf recruits.
- 49:46SPEAKER_01: But that giant eagle.
- 49:48SPEAKER_01: And we just stated Gandalf will recruit the perfect person for this job.
- 49:53SPEAKER_03: You'll find and and I think with round three, where the entire thing about it is that they bring a friend.
- 50:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we've tapped into Gandalf's whole fucking shtick.
- 50:04SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's his power.
- 50:06SPEAKER_01: Yes, power is his bottom.
- 50:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he is it's his i charisma.
- 50:11SPEAKER_01: He will not a wizard, he's a sorcerer.
- 50:15SPEAKER_01: I charisma.
- 50:17SPEAKER_01: Sorcerer, Gandalf.
- 50:20SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, and I think round three taps specifically into Gandalf.
- 50:24SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 50:25SPEAKER_01: Well, well, well, so we have some thoughts, then we have some good thoughts.
- 50:28SPEAKER_01: Luke.
- 50:29SPEAKER_01: Do you think it's magic?
- 50:31SPEAKER_01: Do you think that's magic?
- 50:32SPEAKER_01: He do you think he's casting spells on everyone?
- 50:34SPEAKER_01: And that's how he recruits.
- 50:36SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, that would be so interesting if like his all of his power that we've been seeing his magic like the whole time, and it's like manipulation magic.
- 50:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 50:46SPEAKER_03: Well, but it it's also interesting that at least he's not he's not overt with it.
- 50:54SPEAKER_03: I mean, because you you know, you're talking about that he's moving towards the minds of Moria.
- 50:58SPEAKER_03: He knows there's a creature in there that could send him to death.
- 51:02SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 51:03SPEAKER_03: And he says, This was your guys' decision.
- 51:06SPEAKER_03: So, but then if Sam comes back, and then like they're really like into him now.
- 51:11SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm getting real Dumbledore vibes thinking about Gandalf.
- 51:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, getting some Dumbledore vibes.
- 51:16SPEAKER_01: For real.
- 51:17SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I guess my you know, my final vote then, with all being said, is Gandalf will recruit the perfect being.
- 51:24SPEAKER_01: And honestly, we listed plenty that would probably be sufficient to defeat Jake the dog.
- 51:30SPEAKER_01: And in his own universe.
- 51:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and like we said, you know, Gandalf would it um disable Jake by just, you know, they would go and have a drink while Jake got murdered by whatever Gandalf brought.
- 51:42SPEAKER_01: Or like petrified, like crazy things, crazy things happen in Jake's world, get put in a coma for like 20 years or whatever, like shit, get buried.
- 51:52SPEAKER_01: All these things have happened to Jake.
- 51:54SPEAKER_01: And then he's he ends up being fine at the end, but he's I think an incapacitation to the point that that counts as a win.
- 52:01SPEAKER_03: Well, especially because Jake isn't the one that is the goal.
- 52:04SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I mean, sorry, that that Finn isn't the one that's the goal.
- 52:07SPEAKER_03: So if he just puts Finn to sleep, all's well.
- 52:10SPEAKER_03: You know, he's after Jake.
- 52:11SPEAKER_01: Well, so James, then your vote is I think thinking about Gandalf's magic is that his magic allows him to recruit the perfect person and and manip I think I honestly think now I think that Gandalf's a lot of his thing is like maybe charming magic.
- 52:27SPEAKER_01: Like he charms people.
- 52:29SPEAKER_01: It might be magic.
- 52:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 52:31SPEAKER_01: If if you think about that in Gandalf's terms, like we didn't see a lot of magic in the movies, like he did magic every once in a while and did something interesting.
- 52:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he he did some interesting things like blind people, he didn't really shoot like fireballs or shit.
- 52:44SPEAKER_01: But what if he what if his magic is all social magic?
- 52:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 52:49SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't that be fucking interesting to think about it in that in those terms?
- 52:54SPEAKER_01: Now I gotta go watch the movies and think about it.
- 52:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because he literally like charms like he can literally charm basically an army into like just an ins like just freaking he's done whatever he wants.
- 53:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
- 53:05SPEAKER_01: Like he's totally done that.
- 53:07SPEAKER_01: That's an insane power.
- 53:10SPEAKER_01: I gotta watch those movies again.
- 53:11SPEAKER_01: Now it's time to double check him.
- 53:12SPEAKER_01: When when he rolls up and he's on his cart and he's smoking his pipe, you're like, this motherfucker's casting a spell on me to charm me.
- 53:20SPEAKER_00: I gotta, I gotta watch this motherfucker.
- 53:23SPEAKER_00: Dumbledore motherfucker.
- 53:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I think it's I think it's Gandalf just because of his powerful charm magic.
- 53:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, no, I think just Dumbledore.
- 53:36SPEAKER_03: Where we're gonna have a we're gonna have a system where we where there's points and the houses compete, it'll be fun.
- 53:41SPEAKER_03: And then fucking, you know, Malfoy's like, oh, that'll be fun, and Lovellor, yeah, that'll be fun.
- 53:46SPEAKER_03: 50 points to Gryffindor, fuck you.
- 53:49SPEAKER_01: You know who I think you'd get lumpy space princess, and she'd bite Jake and turn him into a lumpy being.
- 53:55SPEAKER_01: And there you go.
- 53:55SPEAKER_01: So Jake's lumpy now.
- 53:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 53:57SPEAKER_03: And for me, also, yeah, I'm I'm gonna go with Gandalf just because even so Jake for a second there, any of them for a second there might seem like they won for a moment.
- 54:09SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but then Gandalf comes back with new robes and equipment and shit, and then the person and then fucking misses whoever the fuck was working against you the whole time because that's what he intended.
- 54:21SPEAKER_03: And I think that Gandalf will take it.
- 54:24SPEAKER_03: So final votes there.
- 54:27SPEAKER_03: Um, round one went to Jake the Dog, round two goes to Gandalf, and then round three, where we really saw Gandalf get to flex his muscles.
- 54:37SPEAKER_03: Gandalf wins again.
- 54:39SPEAKER_03: So Gandalf has won it against Jake the Dog.
- 54:41SPEAKER_03: Congratulations.
- 54:42SPEAKER_03: Um, if if you guys will indulge me, if not, I'm gonna do it anyway.
- 54:48SPEAKER_03: But here's one to Friday, here's to the end of the week.
- 54:51SPEAKER_03: And to Gandalf.
- 54:53SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna watch those movies again.
- 54:54SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 54:54SPEAKER_03: And one more to self-actualization.
- 54:56SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
- 54:57SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 54:58SPEAKER_01: Way to go, Gandalf.
- 54:59SPEAKER_01: Uh man.
- 55:02SPEAKER_01: You know, you never underestimate like a charisma mage.
- 55:07SPEAKER_01: Uh-uh.
- 55:08SPEAKER_03: Never underestimate your charisma, people.
- 55:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 55:11SPEAKER_03: Talking.
- 55:12SPEAKER_03: It's human's number one superpower.
- 55:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 55:15SPEAKER_01: Some should express it less than others.
- 55:18SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep, yep, yep.
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