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Media Rewriting Biden Legacy, The Pardoning of Federal Death Row Inmates & Democrats Kicked Ol' Joe to the Curb Week In Review · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz and the Week in
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  Speaker 2: Review Ben Ferguson with you. And these are the major
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  Speaker 2: stories that we chatted about this week that you may
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  Speaker 2: have missed. First up, I can't believe I'm saying this,
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  Speaker 2: but there was an actual article in a major newspaper
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  Speaker 2: that said that Joe Biden was an amazing leader, that
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  Speaker 2: he did incredible things. Why on earth would you be
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  Speaker 2: writing that article when the majority of Americans say that
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  Speaker 2: his presidency was a disaster. Will break down the Biden
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  Speaker 2: failures for you in a moment. Also, there was a
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  Speaker 2: big prediction that Joe Biden was going to pardon or
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  Speaker 2: give clemency to people that were hardcore criminals, including those
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  Speaker 2: on death row. Well, that is exactly what he did,
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  Speaker 2: and could it be because he's about to pardon many
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  Speaker 2: others around the Biden crime family. And finally, there's another
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  Speaker 2: big question that Democrats are dealing with right now, and
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  Speaker 2: that is should they have kicked Joe Biden to the
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  Speaker 2: curb sooner than they did and would that have changed
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  Speaker 2: the outcome of the election, meaning Donald Trump wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: been elected president. Will break that down as now they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out what they're going to do next.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Weekend Review and it starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: So let's move to the Washington Post. And I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to do something unusual on this podcast. So I read
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  Speaker 3: this article and my head exploded, and I texted you
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  Speaker 3: and said, this is the most absurd, self satirizing article
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  Speaker 3: I've ever seen. So I just want to go through
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  Speaker 3: it literally, line by line. This is a major story
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  Speaker 3: in the Washington Post banner headline on Drudge and it
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  Speaker 3: is entitled We're just going to go through sentence by sentence.
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  Speaker 3: It's entitled how Biden leads Joe Biden's lonely battle to
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  Speaker 3: sell his vision of American democracy. In his presidency's final chapter,
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  Speaker 3: Biden has mused about whether he should have handled some
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  Speaker 3: decisions differently. And the guy who wrote this is a
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  Speaker 3: guy named Tyler Pager. We're going to come back to
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  Speaker 3: him later. So let's start earlier this year, Representative James E.
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  Speaker 3: Cliburn met President Joe Biden at the White House to
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  Speaker 3: deliver a stern message Biden had to find a way
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  Speaker 3: to revitalize his flagging campaign. Clyburn, who had been pivotal
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  Speaker 3: to Biden's twenty twenty, Victory also made a confession about
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  Speaker 3: his own long standing belief that substance is more important
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  Speaker 3: than style and politics.
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  Speaker 4: Quote.
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  Speaker 3: I've come to the conclusion in recent days that I'm
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  Speaker 3: wrong about that, The South Carolina Democrat eighty four remembers,
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  Speaker 3: telling Biden the new environment that we currently live in,
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  Speaker 3: style seems to carry the day more than substance. Your style,
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  Speaker 3: he told the President, does not lend itself well to
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  Speaker 3: the environment we're currently in. Clyburne's conclusion, which was shared
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  Speaker 3: by anxious Democrats in the months before the president ended
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  Speaker 3: his reelection bid, undermined brought Biden's theory of presidential leadership.
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  Speaker 3: After Donald Trump's assent, Biden believed that he just needed
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  Speaker 3: to show Americans that traditional democracy still worked by listening,
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  Speaker 3: but two experts working with Republicans passing popular policies, and
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  Speaker 3: voters would rally around him. Right, Let's stop there. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so so far every word of this article. If this
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  Speaker 3: was written by the Biden press office, it would not
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  Speaker 3: be any different. And this entire article is hagiography. This
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  Speaker 3: entire article is not journalism. It is not only trying
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  Speaker 3: to praise breathlessly as we're going to go through Joe
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  Speaker 3: Biden and cast him as a mighty titan. But it
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  Speaker 3: is profoundly dishonest. So it starts with the frame that
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  Speaker 3: Biden's great success is on substance, not style. And the
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  Speaker 3: obvious implication of which we're going to get more is
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  Speaker 3: that all Trump has his style. There's no substance. That's
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  Speaker 3: the obvious implication. Let's take this last sentence. After Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump's assent, Biden believed he just needed to show Americans
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  Speaker 3: that traditional democracy still worked. We're going to get more
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  Speaker 3: into democracy a second by listening to experts, working with
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  Speaker 3: Republicans and passing popular policies. Alright, what experts did he
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  Speaker 3: listen to? He did not work with Republicans. Every damned
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  Speaker 3: thing he passed he rammed through on a vicious party
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  Speaker 3: line vote. He used budget reconciliation over and over again
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  Speaker 3: with no Republicans and passing popular policies. Nobody helped Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump get elected more than Joseph Robinette Biden Junior because
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  Speaker 3: his policies were so incredibly unpopular.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's keep going back to the article quote.
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  Speaker 3: He succeeded in phase one of his plan. Did he
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  Speaker 3: now enacting legislation, much of it bipartisan, to reshape the
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  Speaker 3: nation's infrastructure, revive the semiconductor industry, and fight climate change.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be clear, the climate change. The Inflation Reduction Act
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  Speaker 3: was a straight party line vote rammed through on reconciliation,
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  Speaker 3: but Phase two never happened. The truth of Biden's presidency
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  Speaker 3: is that he has failed in what, by his own count,
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  Speaker 3: his most important mission, making Trump's presidency seem like an aberration.
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  Speaker 4: Quote.
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  Speaker 3: He governed through traditional processes and institutions, said Julians E. Zellezer,
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  Speaker 3: a moron presidential historian at Princeton University. It doesn't say moron,
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  Speaker 3: but you're going to see that everything this guy says.
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  Speaker 3: I know he's sadly a professor at Miyama Mater. He's
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  Speaker 3: a complete moron. Let's start with the traditional processes and institutions.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing traditional about weaponizing the federal government to go
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  Speaker 3: after your opponents. There's nothing traditional about prosecuting and indicting
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  Speaker 3: the former president over and over and over again. There's
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  Speaker 3: nothing traditional and using the institutions about opening the border
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  Speaker 3: and having an invasion of our country. But here the
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  Speaker 3: good Princeton professor quote. It didn't change the picture where
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  Speaker 3: he started. This anger in the electorate towards institution, This
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  Speaker 3: support for a pretty radical conservative vision that Trump embodied,
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  Speaker 3: it didn't do anything to end the very intense polarization
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  Speaker 3: that exists in this country now. The idea that Trump
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  Speaker 3: is a radical conservative is a bizarre idea. Trump ran
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  Speaker 3: on securing the border, bringing down inflation, standing with our friends,
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  Speaker 3: and defeating our enemies. That is very hard to characterize
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  Speaker 3: as a quote radical conservative vision. But hey, the Princeton
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  Speaker 3: professor says it, and the Washington Post breathlessly reports it.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna go on here, but give me your thoughts
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  Speaker 3: so far, then we'll go back to the article.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that this is how they want to
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  Speaker 2: just rewrite history part of this and just be be
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  Speaker 2: so delusional.
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  Speaker 1: I am a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: It gets worse.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit shocked though.
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  Speaker 2: If they, like, you know how you're supposed to like
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  Speaker 2: proofread before you print, If you're reading what you just
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  Speaker 2: wrote that you just read, I would think there would
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  Speaker 2: be a moment where you might be like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if this needs to see the light of day.
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  Speaker 1: Yet here it is. They put it out there, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, let's keep going because it gets much much worse.
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  Speaker 3: Previous articles in this series examined the pillars, Oh they're
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  Speaker 3: so strong. The pillars the pillars of Biden's leadership, how
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  Speaker 3: he absorbs information, how he makes decisions, how he communicates
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  Speaker 3: with Americans. They showed that Biden, even at the peak
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  Speaker 3: of his glorious magnificent power, doesn't say glorious magnificent, but
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  Speaker 3: it's just implied, struggled mightily to communicate his decisions and vision.
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  Speaker 3: This article, based on interviews with more than two thousand
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  Speaker 3: people close to Biden, reveals the ways in which his
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  Speaker 3: theory of how to succeed in an era of American
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  Speaker 3: politics dominated by Trump fell apart in the final phase
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  Speaker 3: of his presidency, and how he's been publicly and privately
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  Speaker 3: rethinking whether he should have handled some decisions differently, even
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  Speaker 3: some of his closest advisers without faulting. Biden conceded recently
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  Speaker 3: that his style of governing did not always mesh with
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  Speaker 3: today's politics.
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  Speaker 4: Quote.
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  Speaker 3: The president has been operating on time horizon measured in decades,
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  Speaker 3: while the political cycle is measured in four years. Jake Sullivan,
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  Speaker 3: Biden's national security advisor said, with his lips planted firmly
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  Speaker 3: on Biden's rear end that last piece was my come Like,
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  Speaker 3: I want to go back and listen to that sentence again.
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  Speaker 3: The president has been operating on a time horizon measured
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  Speaker 3: in decades, while the political cycle is measured in four years. Now,
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  Speaker 3: look kudos to the Biden White House for just having
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  Speaker 3: the kutzpah to say, oh, Biden's presidency would be hysteric,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, you really have to measure decades. Twelve
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  Speaker 3: million people invading this country. Four years is too short
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  Speaker 3: to measure it. We're going to screw up this country
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  Speaker 3: for decades, you know, undermining our allies, causing two wars,
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  Speaker 3: a war in Ukraine and a war in Gaza. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you're right, the harm from Biden will last decades. But
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  Speaker 3: that's their entire spend. Well, yes, everything Biden did was
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  Speaker 3: profoundly unpopular because all of his policies failed. But he's
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  Speaker 3: really playing the long game. You foolish people don't understand this.
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  Speaker 3: This misery is good for you. All right, Let's let's
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  Speaker 3: keep going. Sullivan added that Biden's accomplishments, by their nature,
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  Speaker 3: will take a long time to bear fruit quote. How
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  Speaker 3: to govern at this moment to set the US up
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  Speaker 3: for long term success has one answer, and how to
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  Speaker 3: deal with midterm and presidential elections in the very short
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  Speaker 3: term might have a different answer. He said, the President
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  Speaker 3: went with doing things that really put America in a
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  Speaker 3: strong position. Ben, what the hell have they done to
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  Speaker 3: put America in a strong position in every part of
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  Speaker 3: the world. America is weaker today than when Joe Biden
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  Speaker 3: entered the White House. Like, this is absurd. And I
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  Speaker 3: got to say the absurd thing We're going go back
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  Speaker 3: to this in a minute, is the Washington Post just
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  Speaker 3: publishes this drivel like its news that there's not a
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  Speaker 3: moment of reflection, there's not a moment of facts that
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  Speaker 3: there's not a moment of reality, And it's I mean,
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  Speaker 3: how do you react to that that, oh, he's playing
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  Speaker 3: the long game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there's two things here.
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  Speaker 2: One there's a part of me that's like I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe it, and then there's another part of me it's
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  Speaker 2: like good because if you don't learn from your losses,
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  Speaker 2: then you're going to repeat the same mistakes that you
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  Speaker 2: just made. And I think the Democratic Party learned nothing
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  Speaker 2: from November nothing from losing the popular vote, nothing from
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  Speaker 2: the resurrection of Donald Trump from two thy to twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, nothing from weaponizing the government, nothing from overspending
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  Speaker 2: and no accountability, and honestly nothing they've learned nothing from
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  Speaker 2: having a president that quickly was inated. So part of
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  Speaker 2: me is like, good, yeah, keep writing these types of
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  Speaker 2: articles because it's gonna help conservatives like you and I
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  Speaker 2: be able to be way more successful in getting this
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  Speaker 2: country back on track.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Ben the Post just reported that he absorbed
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  Speaker 3: information like you know, some some sort of nobel you know, scientists,
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  Speaker 3: Like like, just all right, let's let's go back. As
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  Speaker 3: his presidency and his fifty year political career wind down
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  Speaker 3: far faster than he wanted, Biden has taken to acknowledging
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  Speaker 3: some strategic mistakes, both big and small. Many of those
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  Speaker 3: missteps resulted from his determination to restore the age old
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  Speaker 3: rules of the American presidency after Trump's term, a determination
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  Speaker 3: that many of his supporters in retrospect consider a politically
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  Speaker 3: fatal error. All right, so what are the age old
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  Speaker 3: rules of the American presidency that he returned to earlier
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  Speaker 3: this month and a speech on his economic legacy, Biden
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  Speaker 3: admitted he was stupid for not putting his own aim
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  Speaker 3: on the pandemic relief checks his administration sent out in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. Yeah, that really was the problem. He
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  Speaker 3: just didn't sign the checks. Clearly Kamala would have won
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  Speaker 3: if Biden had just signed those checks. That that was
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  Speaker 3: the pivotal issue.
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  Speaker 4: Damn it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see Joe Biden's name on those checks, so
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  Speaker 3: forget it. But hey, Trump, by contrast, made a point
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  Speaker 3: of signing his own relief checks in twenty twenty, and
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  Speaker 3: Biden suggested that Trump got more credit for the economic
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  Speaker 3: recovery because of it.
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  Speaker 4: Balderdash.
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  Speaker 3: Biden acknowledged that he had quote screwed up. It is
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  Speaker 3: June twenty seventh debate against Trump. You think as he
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  Speaker 3: struggled to put together sentences and defend his policies as
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  Speaker 3: his rivals held forth with a series of falsehoods. Evil
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  Speaker 3: liar who I hate named Donald Trump that is not there,
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  Speaker 3: it's just implied and called him a criminal. He does
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  Speaker 3: not regret participating in the debate. Justice performance that night.
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  Speaker 3: Now at this point, there's a breakout quote, and you
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  Speaker 3: know what the breakout quote is. It's Jake Sullivan saying
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  Speaker 3: the president is operating on a time horizon measured in decades,
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  Speaker 3: while the political cycle is measured in four years. So
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  Speaker 3: if you missed the central political spin from the White House,
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  Speaker 3: then well that's your problem.
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  Speaker 4: Let's keep going.
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  Speaker 3: He is also amused on changes in the media, arguing
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  Speaker 3: that he did not get enough credit for his accomplishments,
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  Speaker 3: especially on the economy, but inciting examples like Richard M.
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  Speaker 3: Nixon's nineteen sixty debate against John F. Kennedy, Biden has
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  Speaker 3: suggested that, like Nixon, he has struggled to adjust to
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  Speaker 3: a new media landscape. We pick what news we want
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  Speaker 3: to hear. It's a totally different deal, Biden said in
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  Speaker 3: a podcast interview this month. We've got to figure out
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  Speaker 3: how we deal with this significant technological change. If Nixon
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  Speaker 3: was more accustomed to television, he wouldn't have perspired so much,
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  Speaker 3: and he would be president when he beat Kennedy. I
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  Speaker 3: know that sounds silly, but think of the changes taking place.
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  Speaker 3: Where do you go what is true? We have no
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  Speaker 3: evidence anymore. I'm not sure how that gets resolved. The
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  Speaker 3: president and his aides have acknowledged that they struggled to communicate.
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  Speaker 3: See that's the whole problem. The record was phenomenal. They
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  Speaker 3: just failed to commune, struggle to communicate about the administration's
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  Speaker 3: efforts to lift the country out of the pandemic. Frustrated
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  Speaker 3: that even as the United States fared better than other countries,
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  Speaker 3: Americans did not feel the impact psychologically, You idiots, you're
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  Speaker 3: doing great. Why are you so dumb that you don't
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  Speaker 3: realize it? And now here's all right?
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  Speaker 4: Now? Remember so so far, there's.
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  Speaker 3: Two main themes that the post is laid out. Number one,
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  Speaker 3: genius Biden is playing.
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  Speaker 4: For the history books for the decades rather.
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  Speaker 3: Than the short term political cycles, so don't blame him
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  Speaker 3: for the disasters of his policies. But number two, that
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  Speaker 3: he wanted to restore the norms of the presidency and
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  Speaker 3: the norms of democracy.
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  Speaker 4: So this next paragraph is going to blow your mind.
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  Speaker 3: In private, Biden has also said he should have picked
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  Speaker 3: someone other than Merrick Garland as Attorney General.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no kidding.
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  Speaker 3: He was the most partisan and political attorney general in
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  Speaker 3: history and a discret the Department of Justice. But no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: that's not Biden's complaint. Biden quote complaining about the Justice
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  Speaker 3: Department's slowness under Garland in prosecuting Trump and its aggressiveness
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  Speaker 3: in prosecuting Biden's son Hunter, according to people familiar with
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  Speaker 3: his comments, so understand this great titan restoring the norms
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  Speaker 3: of the White House. His DOJ is the first Department
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  Speaker 3: of Justice to indict and prosecute a former president and
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  Speaker 3: a leading candidate for president who later got elected president
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  Speaker 3: in the history of our country. It's never been done.
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  Speaker 3: Under Biden, they did it twice. They absolutely weaponized the
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  Speaker 3: DOJ to go after his opponents over and over and
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  Speaker 3: over again. They weaponized the FBI. And his complaint is,
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  Speaker 3: damn it, they didn't do enough. They should have been
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  Speaker 3: more vigorous. They should have indicted him more. They should
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  Speaker 3: have indicted him faster. We should have we should have
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  Speaker 3: attacked him from day one. I mean, and it is.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, everything I'm saying, there's not a
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  Speaker 3: word of that in this article that they don't acknowledge.
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  Speaker 3: No other DJ has indicted a president. They just report
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  Speaker 3: like a blinking, doe eyed four year old. Well, his
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  Speaker 3: complaint was Biden didn't move fast. On the other thing,
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  Speaker 3: he was too aggressive and prosecuting Biden's son. Now, mind you,
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  Speaker 3: the Biden DOJ went to a court and tried to
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  Speaker 3: enter a sweetheart deal that Biden got a slap on
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  Speaker 3: the wrist in no jail time, and it was so
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: egregious that the judge threw it out only after public scrutiny,
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  Speaker 3: including this podcast, which shined a great deal of light
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  Speaker 3: on it. But he still says that's too much to
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  Speaker 3: hold Hunter accountable. And by the way, the DOJ also
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  Speaker 3: bent over backwards to protect Joe Biden. It that paragraph
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  Speaker 3: may be the most astonishing paragraph of this entire article.
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  Speaker 2: You look at this article and I think there's three
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  Speaker 2: different points that I want to dive into with you. One,
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  Speaker 2: what was the real purpose of writing it? I'm still trying.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I get the whole rewriting of history, but
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  Speaker 2: it's so extreme that I don't even think many on
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  Speaker 2: the left could take this seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Or am I wrong? So let's start with that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they have the audacity to believe that
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  Speaker 3: that that they can, that they are that the newspaper,
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  Speaker 3: the Washington Post, is the first draft of history. And
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  Speaker 3: as said that this is not journalism, that this is hagiography.
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  Speaker 3: The article continues, We've only done about the first third
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  Speaker 3: of it, I'm not going to continue reading the rest
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  Speaker 3: of it. It goes on to say how Biden modeled
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  Speaker 3: himself after FDR and and and I am just going
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  Speaker 3: to skip skip to the end because the end is
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  Speaker 3: every bit as absurd as the earlier parts we read.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the end of the article. To show that
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  Speaker 3: he respects the peaceful transfer of power, Biden is welcoming Trump,
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  Speaker 3: who openly challenged that transition. Biden has repeatedly directed his
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  Speaker 3: aides to do all they can to help Trump assume
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  Speaker 3: the presidency after years of calling Trump unfit for high office. Now,
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  Speaker 3: mind you, every day in the White House, Biden is
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  Speaker 3: doing everything he can to frustrate Trump coming in.
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  Speaker 4: So what is he doing? Number One? He pardoned Hunter.
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  Speaker 3: Biden, which we predicted on this podcast, because he does
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  Speaker 3: not want any accountability for the rampant lawlessness of his
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  Speaker 3: son and the corruption of selling access to himself Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, he pardoned every single federal death row inmate
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  Speaker 3: except for the three most notorious, So of the forty,
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  Speaker 3: he parted thirty seven of them. Again, we predicted that
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  Speaker 3: it was absolutely brazen. Why because he knew Trump was
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  Speaker 3: going to actually carry out the law, and so he's
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: trying to frustrate that. Number three, he's selling off the
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: border wall for five five dollars a parcel because he
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: doesn't want Trump to build the wall. Number four, he's
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: granting considering granting wholesale pardons. He is actively trying to
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: do by the way. Number five, Trump is that he
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: wants federal workers to go back to work. So Biden
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: is signing contracts, collective bargaining contracts to make sure that
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: federal workers can stay home because he wants to tie
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: up the next administration on litigation. So but here, here's
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: what the Post said. Biden has repeatedly directed his aides
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to do all they can to help Trump assume the presidency.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Like what utter and complete garbage. And let me say something,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. Jeff Bezos should be
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: ashamed of this garbage. If Jeff Bezos cared at all
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: about the integrity of the Washington Post, this guy, Tyler Patron,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I have no idea who this numbskull is. He should
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: be fired. He is not a journalist. Anyone who writes
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: this garbage that contains no facts, it contains no counterbalancing
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: countervailing side. It is simply if Madison Avenue were hired
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: to come in and let's rewrite the Biden presidency to
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: be exactly what we wanted it, they couldn't write it
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: more ridiculous than this. And by the way, the editor
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: who signed off on this should be fired as well.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: This is you want to know why nobody trusts the media,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: it's because they publish garbage like this without even a
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: tiny nod to facts or the simple reality that we
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: just saw a overwhelming election where Trump won the popular
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: vote of the seven battleground states, who won all seven,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Like someone at the Post should say, gosh, maybe these
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: incredibly popular policies that were so good for America, Maybe
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: people really didn't like it. Maybe waging a war on
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: oil and gas and driving up energy prices was a
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: really bad idea and hurt a lot of Americans. Maybe
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: undermining our allies. Maybe giving Vladimir Putin a gift of
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: waiving sanctions on Nordstring too and causing the biggest war
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: in Europe since World War Two, Maybe that wasn't a
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: great idea. Maybe sending one hundred billion dollars to I Ran,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: who sends it to Hamas and Hansbla, who uses it
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: to fund a war on Israel, the worst war in
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the Middle East in fifty years. Maybe that wasn't a
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: good idea. Maybe turning a blind eye and refusing to
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: prosecute antisemitic terrorists all across their protesters terrorists is too strong.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: But antisemitic protesters who threatened violence, maybe that is a
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: profoundly bad idea. Maybe watching the integrity half of America
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: believes the FBI and the Department of Justice are completely unprincipled,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: because well, they've been completely unprincipled. None of that that
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: there isn't even the time niest acknowledgment of facts. This
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: is the Washington Post behaving in a way that I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: think everyone connected with this article ought to be thoroughly,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: thoroughly embarrassed. When your principal points are we're aiming for
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: fifty years, not four. So as bad as our policies
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: are in fifty years, will claim they were great. And
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Merrick Garland's problem was he wasn't political enough, and he
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: should have indicted Trump even more, and he should have
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: covered up Biden's wrongdoings even more. And you don't acknowledge
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: any like this is a load of crap that ain't journalism.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: from earlier this week.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Now onto story number two.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Number five is another big one here, and that is
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the prediction that Joe Biden would harden death row inmates.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: You said that it was gonna happen, and it did.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Plus the even more i would say disgusting deal that
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: was given out to Khalid Sheik Muhammad, the mastermind of
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: nine to eleven, to spare his life, the mastermind of
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: nine to eleven, and a man that was also before
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: even nine to eleven involved in many other terrorist attack
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: that killed women and children and the elderly innocent bystanders
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that he did around the world.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Well, and this is a prediction that we made on
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: August eighteenth, twenty twenty three. Give a listen to what
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: we said back in August of twenty three. The way,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I'm going to make a prediction as well, which is
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: that these are not the only mass murderers that I
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: think this administration is going to refuse to follow federal
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: law and impose the death bet. I'm gonna make a
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: prediction right now, which is Joe Biden before he leaves
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: the White House will commute the sentence of every federal
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: prisoner on death row.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: That he will do it for every one of them.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: And that includes It includes the white supremacist and Nazi
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: who murdered nine African Americans at the Mother Emmanuel Ame
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Church in Charleston, South Carolina, in a horrific hate crime.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: He's on federal death row.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: It includes the Boston bomber who murdered innocent people by
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: exploding a bomb at the Boston Marathon. One of the
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: two brothers is still alive. He's on death row. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: my prediction right now is Joe Biden intends to spare
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: every one of these mass murderers, every one of them.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Many of them are racist, bigoted, homicidal lunatics, and I
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: think we're going to see him commute all of their
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: sentences before he leaves the White House.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Well, if you won't, if you won't take out the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: mastermind of nine to eleven and you won't give him
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the death penalty, is there anyone that you'll give it to?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't get any worse than this.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: It doesn't. And yet that's exactly what he's done.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: So my prediction again in August of twenty three, is
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: that he would he would remove the death penalty, that
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: he would commute the death penalty for the federal death
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: row prisoners that has come to pass. Now, to be clear,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: this prediction proves slightly off. I predicted that he would
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: commute the sentence of every single federal death row prisoner.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: He instead commuted the sentence of thirty seven out of
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: the forty federal death row inmates. And so there were
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: three he did not. And interestingly enough, the three he
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: did not are the three that I identified in October,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: or rather in August of twenty twenty three. So the
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: three he did not were the murderer at the Tree
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, the murderer at the Mother
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Church in Charleston, South Carolina, and the Boston marathon bomber.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: And those three are the only three he did not.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Now I identified those three because they're the most horribly egregious,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: they're the most famous and infamous.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: That they are.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Two of the three at least are vicious, unrepentant racists.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: And so I have to say my prediction. It was
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: not one hundred percent right. It was ninety two point
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: five percent right, because instead of commuting forty death sentences,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Biden commuted thirty seven out of forty, and he left
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: the three most egregious and famous ones off the table.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Why because they knew that the press was so utterly
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: corrupt that without those three that they would get almost
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: no criticism for it. That would you would just go
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: under the carpet, not really be seen. And I have
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: to say I underestimated the incredible cynicism.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: And I got to say nonetheless.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: That that is a profound disrespect for the rule of law.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Among those that that Biden did commute the sentences was
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: was a Nazi and an Aryan Brotherhood racist. You know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden stepped forward and said, hey, we're the Democrat Party.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: We're here.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: We're here for Nazis and klansmen. I mean it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But ninety two point five percent prediction correct. And sadly,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: another element of this prediction just just became confirmed moments ago.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: So so this episode, we were talking about the plans
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: to spare the life of khaleade Shake Mohammad, the mastermind
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: of nine to eleven, and this podcast put enormous public
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: pressure on the White House. The White House Koreem John
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Pierre was asked about it, and the heat became so
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: much that they backed off of it. Well sadly, the
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: news just broke that they're going back to trying to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: spare Khalead shak Muhammad. They're trying to do it literally
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: on the way out the door. And the content that
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden, this entire White House has for the voters.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: They are trying to break everything on the way out
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: the door. They're trying to frustrate Donald Trump every way
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: they can. They are such vicious partisans that there is
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: no respect for the Constitution, for the rule of law,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: no respect for the voters. They don't care what the
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: voters said in November. They are trying to literally break
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: everything on the way out the door, and I got
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: to say it is grotesque.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: As before, If you want to hear the rest of
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: story number three of the week you may have missed.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Let's move on to another prediction. This may be one
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: of my favorite predictions that we've ever made here on
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: this show, because when we said it, we got a
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: lot of pushback, and there are a lot of people
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: that said what you were saying was chill step.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Third, we had our ten foil hats on again.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, there were people that were angry over this,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and that was the big prediction that you made, that
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden would not be the twenty twenty four Democratic nominee.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and I made two related predictions. Number one,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: early on, I said, I believe Joe Biden would not
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: be the Democrat nominee. He would not be on the
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: ballot in twenty twenty four. I also predicted, I said,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the only people that were when people were later talking
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: about replacing him with Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer some
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: other people, I said, no, that will never happen. The
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Democrat Party is a bean counting party. Next in line
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: is Kamala Harris, and the Democrat Party cannot cannot push
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: her aside, cannot push an African American woman aside for
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: a white guy like Gavin Newsom. Their their party would
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: spontaneously combust if they tried to do that, so I said,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the only people who could replace Joe Biden are Kamala
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Harris or Michelle Obama. And I did lay out that
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I thought Michelle Obama. If I were a Democrat, I
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: would much prefer Michelle Obama to Kamala Harris becau. Kamala Harris,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: as the whole world is seen, is a lousy candidate.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: So if you're a Democrat who wants to win and
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: you're stuck with Kamala Harris, there's only one human being
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: who can push Kamala Harris aside. That is Michelle Obama.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Now what I think happened. I think they tried with Michelle.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I think Michelle said no. And so prediction number one
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: that Joe Biden would not be the nominee that came
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent correct. Prediction number two that he would
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: be replaced either by Kamala Harris or Michelle Obama that
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: came true as well, although I did think Michelle Obama
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: had a very real possibility. So let's listen. This first
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: excerpt is from September eighteenth, twenty twenty three, so more
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: than a year a year and three months ago where
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I laid out laid out this possibility and give a listen.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: So here's the scenario that I think is perhaps most
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: likely and most dangerous. In August of twenty twenty four,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: the Democrat kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and parachute in Michelle Obama,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: and I want you to pause and reflect on it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm pausing, and I'm reflecting, as we said, and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: so is everybody else listening right now.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I view this as a very serious danger.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I'm smiling right now because it terrifies me. And I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: also could totally see this happening.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: So, Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African American women,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: which is a critical part of the constituency that Democrats
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: are relying on to win. But number two, you avoid
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the problem if you pick from any of the four.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: The other three are pissed because they're all to some
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: extent peers, they're rivals, they're all jabbin knives at each other.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Michelle Obama, because she was first, has the ability to
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: kind of parachute in above all four and say, hey,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: we're not picking among any of you. You guys can
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: all fight it out next time. You're all going to
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: be on the same level. We're coming. This is the
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Obamas saving the day, and I think in terms of
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: a solution that unifies Democrats, there ain't nothing like that.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I also think Michelle is not all that eager to
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: run for president. But to parachute in in August of
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: twenty four, a couple of months before the presidency and
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: suddenly wake up and be president not a bad gig.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: It's not a bad gig at all. Now, would she
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: do it? I don't know. I've met Michelle, but I
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: don't know her personally in any meaningful way.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know if she would do it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I do think Barack Obama is already running the Biden administration.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I think he is already the puppet master behind this
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Biden White House. I don't think Joe Biden is the
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: decision maker. And so when I see the media turning
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: on Joe Biden right now, I think the odds of
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Michelle Obama parachuting in in August of twenty twenty four
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: have risen dramatically, and that ought to scare the hell
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: out of anyone who is unhappy about the direction this
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: country is going and doesn't want us to go even
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: crazier in an even worse direct.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: In an even worse direction.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Well, and there you heard in September of twenty twenty
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: three making the prediction that Joe Biden would be jettisoned.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: And by the way, at the time that happened, very
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: few people were making that prediction. When we put that
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: podcast out, it drove a lot of news. There were headlines.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: There were people that were shocked when I laid out
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: that Biden was not capable, that his mental capacity had diminished,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that he was not going to be the nominee, that
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: the Democrats realized it, that they were going to jettison him,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: that the media ridiculed it. But you go forward to
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: February of twenty twenty four, I went on Maria Bartiromo.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I said, I think Obama's driving the train, which is
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: which is also what I said back in September twenty
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: twenty three. John Harwood, who you know, was the former
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: journalist for the Wall Street Journal and for NBC, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: who's a hard leftist, a vicious leftist. He retweeted my
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: comments on Maria Barbaramo and his entire commentary was quote
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: impossibly stupid conversation. So that was his learned journalistic view
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: is that it was impossibly stupid to say that. I
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: will tell you just in November of this year, I
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: retweeted Harwood shot at me and I just said, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: want to know why nobody trusts the media. Just nine
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: months ago, a fake quote journalist claimed it was quote
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: impossibly stupid to observe that Joe Biden was not mentally
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: competent to be president. Now everybody admits it. What say you,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: John Jay Harwood? Of course Harwood didn't respond at all.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: He ignored it. All right, Let's go forward though. Not
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: only did we lay it out in September of twenty
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: twenty three, but then fast forward to the debate, the
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump that was on
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: June twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. You and I recorded
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: a Verdict podcast immediately after the debate. We went live
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: recorded it that night, and give a listen to what
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: the Verdict podcast said the night of the debate.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Tender Cruz, I didn't think it could actually be this bad.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: It was worse than even I think either of us
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: could have imagined. And now the Democratic Party is screaming
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: replaced the president.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Well, you and I are sitting here at is ten
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: seventeen pm Texas time. At is eleven seventeen pm East
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Coast time.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: The night of the debate.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: The debate just ended, and I have to say, we
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: have just witnessed what I believe is the most consequential
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: presidential debate in US history. Sometimes debate change debates change things.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Sometimes they don't. I believe to bite tonight's debate change
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: things fundamentally. And I believe the odds have now skyrocketed.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I believe the odds are north of eighty percent that
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: the Democrat Party will remove Joe Biden from the ticket
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: and replace him. And I believe they are likely to
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: replace Joe Biden with Michelle Obama because Biden did so
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: disastrously badly tonight that Democrats across the country are in
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: utter freefall and complete panic. We're going to break all
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: that down tonight.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And by the way, this was a prediction that you
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: made on this show back in September of twenty twenty
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: three that the Democratic king makers could bring in Michelle
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Obama will break all that down center yet another prediction
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: there again, go back and look at the night you
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: made it right at that debate, and you said there's
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: no way he's going to be on the ticket, and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: it was absolutely correct.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Well, to be fair, what I said was the odds
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: were north of eighty percent that he would be.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Pulled off the ticket.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: That prediction that Joe Biden would be removed from the ticket,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: which by the way, is unprecedented and was almost universally
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: ridiculed in the media, that prediction came one hundred percent true.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I also articulated there were only two people who could
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: replace him, Kamala Harris or Michelle Obama. I believe Michelle
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Obama was more likely. The Michelle Obama thing did not
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: come to pass, but the Kamala Harris thing did. And
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: in fact I predicted that the Democrat Kingmakers with jettison
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Biden in August of twenty twenty four. They in fact
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: did so on July twenty first of twenty twenty four,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: so I was ten days off in terms of predicting it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: And by the way, to be clear, I predicted that
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: way back in September of twenty twenty three, so so
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: over a year earlier. I predicted within ten days when
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: they would throw Biden off the ballot. And I'm going
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: to make actually a brand new prediction here, I'm going
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: to predict that in the next year or two we
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: are going to get confirmation that there was serious outreach
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: to Michelle Obama to see if she was willing to
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: replace Joe Biden on the ballot, and that Michelle Obama
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: said no. I don't know that, but my instinct, my
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: judgment tells me that happened, and we'll see in the
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: next year or two if that gets confirmed. We'll have
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: a subsequent podcast. If that gets confirmed publicly, we'll go
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: back and revisit it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center
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  Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal
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