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The Peter Nicholas Interview Part Two · Team of the eighties

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  Taylor.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  team
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  of
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  the
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  80s.
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  My
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  name
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  is
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  Gary
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  Spencer.
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  I
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  hope
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  you're
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  doing
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  well
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  out
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  there.
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  Have
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  you
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  listened
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  yet
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  to
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  part
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  Peter
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  Nicholas
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  interview?
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  If
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  you
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  haven't,
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  then
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  go
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  back
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  and
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  give
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  it
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  a
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  listen.
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  And
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  if
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  you
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  have,
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  then
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  you
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  must
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  be
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  really
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  ready
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  by
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  now.
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  Now
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  for
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  part
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  two.
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  So
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  no
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  fuss
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  Pin
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  and
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  Nicholas,
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  part
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  two.
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  Do
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  you
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  remember
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  your
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  debut,
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  Nico?
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  Palace
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  debut,
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  first
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  team.
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  My
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  debut
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  was
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  at
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  Palace.
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  It
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  was
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  palace
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  against
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  Millwall.
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  At
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  millwall
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  he
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  went
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  3
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  nil
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  and
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  it
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  was
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  the
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  last
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  game
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  of
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  the
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  season.
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  Ah,
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  you
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  okay?
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  That's
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  where
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  Vince
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  scored,
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  right
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  at
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  the
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  far
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  post.
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  Yes,
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  that's
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  right,
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  that's
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  right.
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  Yeah.
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  Vince
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  scored,
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  Mike
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  played,
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  Vince
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  scored.
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  I
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  think
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  Johnny
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  Murphy
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  came
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  on,
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  sir.
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  Yeah,
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  that's
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  when
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  I
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  made
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  my
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  debut.
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  I
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  went
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  to
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  that
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  game.
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  I
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  was
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  in
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  the
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  away
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  end.
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  I
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  got
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  hammered.
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  Yeah,
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  well,
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  it
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  was
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  just
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  a
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  crazy
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  place
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  to
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  go
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  because
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  us
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  as
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  kids,
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  I
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  was
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  only.
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  It
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  was
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  just.
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  Just
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  17.
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  And
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  I
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  tell
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  you
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  one.
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  Malcolm.
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  I
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  tell
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  you
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  one
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  game.
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  And
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  Malcolm
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  took
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  us
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  over.
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  He
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  took
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  us
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  over
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  to
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  Marvin
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  Hinton
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  and
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  took
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  us
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  to
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  Chelsea.
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  Yes.
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  Testimonial
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  game.
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  Yes.
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  Took
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  six
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  of
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  us
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  over
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  there.
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  When
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  we
• 1:20
  were
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  subs.
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  It
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  was
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  a
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  testimonial
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  game
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  for
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  Marvin
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  Hington.
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  They're
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  playing
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  the
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  palace
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  of
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  playing
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  Peter
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  Taylor.
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  It
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  was
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  just
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  a
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  practice
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  game,
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  basically.
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  Right.
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  You
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  know,
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  the
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  testimony
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  was
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  like.
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  Yeah,
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  there's
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  no
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  tackling
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  or
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  anything
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  going
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  on
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  like
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  that.
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  No.
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  And
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  then
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  these
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  are
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  the
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  times
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  that
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  we
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  get
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  when
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  palace
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  was
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  like.
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  Malcolm
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  was
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  actually
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  on
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  fire,
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  by
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  the
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  way.
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  He
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  was
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  he's
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  going
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  around
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  with
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  the.
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  You
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  know,
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  the
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  palace
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  around
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  them.
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  Run
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  with
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  the
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  FA
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  cup
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  and
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  Martin
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  with
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  a
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  big
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  cigars
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  and
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  a
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  big
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  fedora
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  hat
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  on
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  it.
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  We
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  had.
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  We
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  had.
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  We
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  had
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  the
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  morning.
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  Don't
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  forget
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  where
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  Fiona.
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  Richard
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  turned
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  up
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  in
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  the
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  dressing
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  room.
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  76,
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  77
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  walked
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  in,
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  she
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  took
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  her.
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  Coat
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  off
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  naked
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  and
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  laid
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  in
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  the
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  bath
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  and.
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  Fantastic.
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  Malcolm,
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  like,
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  you
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  know
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  me.
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  Yeah,
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  lovely.
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  It
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  was
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  buzzing.
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  The
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  police
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  were
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  buzzing
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  me.
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  What
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  an
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  absolute.
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  You're.
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  I
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  guess
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  your
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  most
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  memorable
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  game
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  for
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  palace
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  would
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  have
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  been
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  the
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  Burnley
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  game.
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  Right.
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  You
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  played
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  in
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  that,
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  Nico.
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  Burnley.
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  Well,
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  it's
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  strange
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  because
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  again,
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  when
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  you're
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  17
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  going
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  on
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  18,
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  you
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  don't
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  care
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  about
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  pressure.
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  Yeah,
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  there's
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  no
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  pressure.
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  You
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  just
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  want
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  to
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  play
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  football,
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  G.
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  That's
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  all
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  do.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  go
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  and
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  play
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  your
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  best.
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  And
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  we
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  stayed
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  again.
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  We
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  stayed
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  up
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  that
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  day.
• 2:35
  We
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  tr.
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  We
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  done
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  of
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  training
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  in
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  the
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  morning.
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  Malcolm
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  had
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  gone,
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  Teddy
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  took
• 2:38
  over.
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  Yeah,
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  we
• 2:39
  had
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  a
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  Great
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  run
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  last
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  season,
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  Walsh.
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  It
• 2:43
  off
• 2:43
  either
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  one.
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  One
• 2:44
  of
• 2:44
  them
• 2:44
  would
• 2:44
  score
• 2:45
  every
• 2:45
  weekend.
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  Yeah.
• 2:47
  Budgie
• 2:47
  was
• 2:47
  on
• 2:48
  firing
• 2:48
  goal.
• 2:49
  Jimbo
• 2:50
  was
• 2:50
  at
• 2:50
  the
• 2:50
  back
• 2:50
  quite
• 2:51
  steady.
• 2:51
  His
• 2:51
  normal
• 2:52
  gym.
• 2:52
  Billy
• 2:53
  was
• 2:53
  playing
• 2:53
  well
• 2:54
  I
• 2:54
  was
• 2:54
  playing.
• 2:54
  Vince
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  was
• 2:55
  the
• 2:56
  main
• 2:56
  man.
• 2:56
  Everybody
• 2:57
  tried
• 2:57
  to
• 2:57
  take
• 2:57
  Vince
• 2:57
  out
• 2:58
  and
• 2:58
  nobody
• 2:58
  could
• 2:58
  do
• 2:59
  that.
• 2:59
  You
• 2:59
  had.
• 3:00
  Kenny
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  was
• 3:00
  in
• 3:00
  the.
• 3:00
  Virtually
• 3:01
  in
• 3:01
  the
• 3:01
  England
• 3:01
  team
• 3:02
  setup
• 3:02
  then
• 3:04
  Fen
• 3:04
  was
• 3:04
  on
• 3:04
  the
• 3:04
  bench.
• 3:05
  Was
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  great.
• 3:06
  You
• 3:06
  know.
• 3:06
  Yeah.
• 3:06
  And
• 3:07
  Teddy
• 3:07
  Fedic
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  could
• 3:08
  play
• 3:08
  anywhere,
• 3:08
  mate.
• 3:08
  He
• 3:08
  could
• 3:08
  play
• 3:09
  right
• 3:09
  back.
• 3:10
  Yeah.
• 3:10
  Send
• 3:11
  midfield.
• 3:11
  So
• 3:11
  he
• 3:12
  was
• 3:12
  always
• 3:12
  good
• 3:12
  to
• 3:13
  come
• 3:13
  on
• 3:13
  and
• 3:13
  play
• 3:13
  the
• 3:13
  game,
• 3:14
  you
• 3:14
  know.
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  And
• 3:16
  we
• 3:16
  had
• 3:16
  other
• 3:16
  players
• 3:17
  out
• 3:17
  there
• 3:17
  as
• 3:17
  well
• 3:17
  who
• 3:18
  were
• 3:18
  good
• 3:18
  solid
• 3:19
  players.
• 3:19
  So
• 3:20
  any
• 3:20
  we.
• 3:20
  We.
• 3:21
  We
• 3:21
  ended
• 3:21
  up
• 3:21
  staying
• 3:22
  in
• 3:22
  the
• 3:22
  Queen's
• 3:22
  Hotel
• 3:23
  that
• 3:23
  afternoon.
• 3:24
  We
• 3:24
  stayed
• 3:25
  up
• 3:25
  there
• 3:25
  in
• 3:25
  the
• 3:25
  afternoon
• 3:26
  and
• 3:26
  we
• 3:26
  didn't
• 3:26
  really
• 3:27
  take
• 3:27
  any
• 3:27
  much
• 3:27
  notice
• 3:28
  of
• 3:28
  the.
• 3:28
  We
• 3:28
  got
• 3:28
  to
• 3:29
  win
• 3:29
  the.
• 3:29
  Win
• 3:29
  the
• 3:29
  game.
• 3:30
  I
• 3:30
  think
• 3:30
  we
• 3:30
  win
• 3:30
  the
• 3:31
  game,
• 3:31
  win
• 3:31
  the
• 3:31
  league.
• 3:32
  If
• 3:32
  we
• 3:32
  draw,
• 3:33
  I
• 3:33
  think
• 3:33
  we
• 3:33
  get
• 3:33
  promotion.
• 3:34
  Like
• 3:34
  a
• 3:34
  second
• 3:34
  team.
• 3:35
  That's
• 3:35
  right.
• 3:35
  And
• 3:36
  all
• 3:36
  of
• 3:36
  a
• 3:36
  sudden
• 3:37
  and
• 3:37
  we're
• 3:37
  driving
• 3:37
  down,
• 3:38
  we're
• 3:38
  driving,
• 3:38
  we
• 3:38
  getting
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  cars
• 3:39
  off.
• 3:39
  I
• 3:40
  think
• 3:40
  we're
• 3:40
  in
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  minibus
• 3:41
  or
• 3:41
  something.
• 3:41
  They
• 3:41
  took
• 3:42
  us
• 3:42
  down
• 3:42
  to
• 3:42
  the
• 3:42
  ground
• 3:42
  which
• 3:43
  is
• 3:43
  not
• 3:43
  far
• 3:43
  from
• 3:43
  the
• 3:44
  Queen's
• 3:44
  Hotel
• 3:45
  and
• 3:45
  the
• 3:45
  crows
• 3:46
  on
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  side
• 3:46
  of
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  street.
• 3:47
  Unbelievable.
• 3:48
  Yeah,
• 3:49
  yeah.
• 3:49
  Unbelievable
• 3:51
  that.
• 3:51
  I
• 3:52
  mean
• 3:52
  listen,
• 3:53
  for
• 3:54
  me
• 3:56
  that
• 3:56
  night
• 3:57
  was
• 3:58
  more
• 3:59
  spectacular
• 4:00
  and
• 4:00
  memorable
• 4:00
  than
• 4:01
  winning
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  FA
• 4:01
  Cup.
• 4:02
  For
• 4:02
  me.
• 4:03
  Just
• 4:03
  because
• 4:03
  the
• 4:04
  amount
• 4:04
  of
• 4:04
  people
• 4:05
  in
• 4:05
  that
• 4:05
  ground
• 4:06
  and
• 4:06
  what
• 4:06
  it
• 4:06
  meant
• 4:06
  to
• 4:07
  the
• 4:07
  club
• 4:07
  at
• 4:07
  the
• 4:08
  time
• 4:08
  and
• 4:09
  what
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  future
• 4:10
  looked
• 4:10
  like
• 4:11
  for
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  club
• 4:11
  at
• 4:11
  the
• 4:12
  time.
• 4:13
  Gary,
• 4:13
  that's
• 4:13
  all
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  can
• 4:14
  say
• 4:14
  to
• 4:14
  you.
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  think
• 4:15
  you're
• 4:15
  100%
• 4:16
  right.
• 4:17
  What
• 4:17
  I
• 4:17
  will
• 4:18
  say
• 4:18
  though
• 4:18
  is
• 4:18
  that
• 4:20
  I
• 4:20
  can't
• 4:20
  believe
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  amount
• 4:21
  of
• 4:21
  people
• 4:22
  in
• 4:22
  that
• 4:22
  ground.
• 4:23
  Yeah.
• 4:23
  Yeah.
• 4:25
  There
• 4:25
  was
• 4:25
  people.
• 4:26
  Yes.
• 4:26
  Sitting
• 4:27
  two
• 4:27
  fold
• 4:28
  over
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  edge
• 4:28
  on
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  side
• 4:29
  of
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  pitch.
• 4:30
  Yes.
• 4:30
  Cuz
• 4:30
  they.
• 4:30
  There
• 4:31
  was
• 4:31
  no
• 4:31
  one
• 4:31
  else
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  understand.
• 4:33
  It
• 4:33
  was.
• 4:33
  It
• 4:33
  was
• 4:34
  crazy.
• 4:34
  So
• 4:35
  memorable.
• 4:35
  So
• 4:36
  memorable.
• 4:38
  Yeah,
• 4:38
  that
• 4:38
  was.
• 4:38
  And
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  atmosphere.
• 4:40
  And
• 4:40
  the
• 4:41
  atmosphere
• 4:41
  like.
• 4:42
  But
• 4:42
  again
• 4:43
  you
• 4:43
  don't
• 4:43
  think
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  too
• 4:44
  much
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  it
• 4:44
  because
• 4:45
  all
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  do
• 4:45
  is
• 4:45
  just
• 4:45
  concentrate
• 4:46
  on
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  game,
• 4:46
  concentrating
• 4:47
  on
• 4:47
  attack.
• 4:47
  It's
• 4:48
  all
• 4:48
  you're
• 4:48
  playing
• 4:48
  against
• 4:49
  or
• 4:50
  you're
• 4:50
  worrying
• 4:50
  that
• 4:51
  there's
• 4:51
  no
• 4:51
  worries
• 4:52
  going
• 4:52
  to
• 4:53
  play.
• 4:54
  Yeah.
• 4:54
  But
• 4:54
  you,
• 4:54
  you
• 4:55
  know,
• 4:55
  you
• 4:55
  got
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  realize
• 4:56
  that
• 4:56
  nowadays
• 4:57
  I
• 4:57
  think
• 4:57
  what's
• 4:58
  the
• 4:58
  capacity
• 4:58
  at
• 4:59
  Palace?
• 4:59
  28
• 4:59
  000.
• 5:00
  There'll
• 5:00
  never
• 5:00
  be
• 5:00
  59000
• 5:01
  in
• 5:01
  Palace's
• 5:02
  ground
• 5:02
  again.
• 5:02
  Ever.
• 5:03
  Ever.
• 5:03
  No,
• 5:04
  never,
• 5:04
  never.
• 5:05
  I
• 5:05
  mean
• 5:05
  the
• 5:05
  old
• 5:05
  sale
• 5:06
  rule
• 5:06
  then
• 5:06
  was
• 5:07
  just,
• 5:07
  you
• 5:07
  know,
• 5:08
  I've
• 5:08
  got
• 5:08
  a.
• 5:09
  A
• 5:09
  story
• 5:10
  to
• 5:10
  tell
• 5:10
  you.
• 5:10
  When
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  was
• 5:11
  19
• 5:11
  I
• 5:11
  had
• 5:11
  to.
• 5:12
  Before
• 5:12
  we
• 5:13
  go
• 5:13
  to
• 5:13
  that
• 5:13
  game,
• 5:13
  quickly,
• 5:14
  I'm
• 5:14
  just
• 5:14
  going
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  go
• 5:14
  off.
• 5:14
  I've
• 5:14
  got
• 5:15
  to
• 5:15
  tell
• 5:15
  you
• 5:15
  this
• 5:15
  one.
• 5:15
  Go
• 5:16
  on.
• 5:17
  When
• 5:17
  I
• 5:18
  was
• 5:18
  training
• 5:18
  one
• 5:18
  day
• 5:20
  and
• 5:20
  Ernie
• 5:20
  Wally
• 5:21
  came
• 5:21
  over.
• 5:21
  It
• 5:21
  was.
• 5:21
  Ernie
• 5:22
  was
• 5:22
  our,
• 5:22
  like,
• 5:23
  Welsh.
• 5:24
  Yeah.
• 5:25
  Trainer.
• 5:25
  And
• 5:25
  you
• 5:26
  look
• 5:26
  after.
• 5:26
  He
• 5:26
  used
• 5:26
  to
• 5:26
  look
• 5:27
  after
• 5:27
  the
• 5:27
  Welsh.
• 5:27
  Great
• 5:28
  character,
• 5:28
  great
• 5:29
  different
• 5:29
  things.
• 5:29
  And.
• 5:30
  And
• 5:30
  there's.
• 5:31
  And
• 5:32
  he.
• 5:32
  And
• 5:32
  he
• 5:32
  said,
• 5:32
  oh,
• 5:32
  you've
• 5:33
  got
• 5:33
  to
• 5:33
  go
• 5:33
  back
• 5:33
  to
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  ground
• 5:33
  this
• 5:33
  afternoon.
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  said,
• 5:34
  what's
• 5:34
  that?
• 5:35
  He
• 5:35
  said,
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  boss
• 5:35
  wants
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  see
• 5:36
  you.
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  said,
• 5:36
  what's
• 5:36
  up?
• 5:37
  What's
• 5:37
  happened?
• 5:37
  He
• 5:38
  said,
• 5:38
  nothing's
• 5:38
  happened.
• 5:39
  He
• 5:39
  just
• 5:39
  wants
• 5:39
  to
• 5:39
  see
• 5:39
  him.
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  thought,
• 5:41
  oh,
• 5:41
  Christ,
• 5:41
  what's
• 5:41
  happening?
• 5:41
  They're
• 5:42
  like,
• 5:42
  you
• 5:42
  know
• 5:42
  what
• 5:42
  I
• 5:42
  mean?
• 5:42
  So
• 5:42
  go
• 5:42
  back
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  grant.
• 5:43
  I'm
• 5:44
  19
• 5:44
  years
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  age.
• 5:45
  Yeah.
• 5:46
  Or
• 5:46
  was
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  18?
• 5:46
  18,
• 5:47
  19.
• 5:47
  I
• 5:47
  don't
• 5:48
  know.
• 5:48
  And
• 5:48
  yeah.
• 5:49
  And
• 5:49
  he
• 5:49
  says,
• 5:50
  go
• 5:50
  back
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  ground.
• 5:51
  Could
• 5:51
  knock
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  doors,
• 5:52
  come
• 5:52
  in
• 5:52
  so
• 5:53
  good.
• 5:53
  I
• 5:53
  boss,
• 5:53
  he
• 5:53
  said,
• 5:54
  yeah,
• 5:54
  sit
• 5:54
  down.
• 5:54
  He
• 5:54
  said,
• 5:55
  in
• 5:55
  half
• 5:56
  an
• 5:56
  hour
• 5:56
  we've
• 5:56
  got
• 5:56
  people
• 5:56
  turning
• 5:57
  up
• 5:59
  to
• 5:59
  see
• 5:59
  him.
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  said,
• 6:00
  yeah,
• 6:01
  what's
• 6:01
  up?
• 6:01
  He
• 6:01
  said,
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  know
• 6:02
  he's
• 6:02
  up.
• 6:03
  He
• 6:03
  said,
• 6:03
  the
• 6:04
  father
• 6:05
  of
• 6:05
  the
• 6:05
  family's
• 6:06
  died.
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  said,
• 6:07
  yeah.
• 6:08
  And
• 6:09
  he
• 6:09
  said,
• 6:10
  use
• 6:10
  his
• 6:11
  favorite
• 6:11
  player.
• 6:12
  And
• 6:12
  he
• 6:12
  wants
• 6:12
  you
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
  put
• 6:13
  the
• 6:13
  ashes
• 6:13
  on
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  certain
• 6:14
  place
• 6:16
  where
• 6:16
  you
• 6:16
  just
• 6:16
  stand
• 6:17
  and
• 6:17
  watch
• 6:17
  the
• 6:17
  game
• 6:17
  on
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  old
• 6:18
  road.
• 6:19
  Dead.
• 6:21
  Oh,
• 6:21
  Christ
• 6:21
  almighty.
• 6:22
  Bit
• 6:22
  heavy,
• 6:22
  is
• 6:22
  it?
• 6:23
  Yeah.
• 6:24
  I'm
• 6:24
  thinking,
• 6:24
  hold
• 6:24
  on.
• 6:25
  So
• 6:25
  all
• 6:25
  of
• 6:25
  a
• 6:25
  sudden
• 6:26
  then
• 6:26
  I'm
• 6:26
  like,
• 6:26
  I'm
• 6:27
  glad.
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  said,
• 6:27
  well,
• 6:27
  when
• 6:27
  you
• 6:28
  tell
• 6:28
  me,
• 6:28
  boss,
• 6:28
  I'm
• 6:28
  dressed
• 6:29
  up
• 6:29
  all.
• 6:29
  He
• 6:30
  said,
• 6:30
  don't
• 6:30
  worry
• 6:30
  about
• 6:30
  that.
• 6:30
  Don't
• 6:31
  worry
• 6:31
  with
• 6:31
  that.
• 6:31
  Just
• 6:31
  stay
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  tracksuit,
• 6:32
  Go
• 6:32
  downstairs,
• 6:33
  see
• 6:33
  Dave
• 6:33
  on.
• 6:34
  Get
• 6:34
  a
• 6:34
  tracksuit
• 6:34
  on.
• 6:35
  I'll
• 6:36
  do
• 6:36
  you.
• 6:36
  So
• 6:37
  anyway,
• 6:37
  so
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  family
• 6:37
  turn
• 6:38
  up,
• 6:38
  I
• 6:38
  go
• 6:38
  up
• 6:38
  the
• 6:39
  stairs,
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  vicar
• 6:40
  turns
• 6:40
  up
• 6:40
  as
• 6:40
  well.
• 6:40
  The
• 6:40
  umpire.
• 6:41
  Vicar
• 6:41
  turns
• 6:41
  up,
• 6:41
  right?
• 6:42
  He
• 6:42
  turns
• 6:42
  up
• 6:42
  and
• 6:43
  he
• 6:43
  says,
• 6:43
  right,
• 6:43
  okay,
• 6:44
  Mr.
• 6:44
  Nicholas.
• 6:44
  Yeah,
• 6:45
  okay.
• 6:45
  And
• 6:46
  then
• 6:46
  the
• 6:46
  family
• 6:46
  shake
• 6:47
  my
• 6:47
  hand
• 6:47
  is
• 6:47
  everything's
• 6:48
  nice
• 6:48
  and
• 6:48
  whatever.
• 6:49
  Whatever.
• 6:49
  I'm
• 6:49
  thinking,
• 6:49
  christ,
• 6:50
  what's
• 6:50
  going
• 6:50
  on
• 6:51
  here?
• 6:51
  Like,
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  know
• 6:51
  what
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  mean?
• 6:51
  Yeah,
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  ain't
• 6:52
  got
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  cream,
• 6:53
  like,
• 6:53
  you
• 6:53
  know.
• 6:53
  Yeah.
• 6:54
  So
• 6:54
  any,
• 6:54
  Any.
• 6:55
  So
• 6:58
  he
• 6:58
  says,
• 6:58
  you
• 6:59
  there,
• 6:59
  there.
• 6:59
  There's
• 6:59
  the
• 7:00
  ur.
• 7:00
  The
• 7:00
  ur's
• 7:01
  in
• 7:01
  my
• 7:01
  hand.
• 7:01
  Just,
• 7:01
  you
• 7:02
  know,
• 7:02
  he
• 7:03
  said.
• 7:03
  Then
• 7:03
  Rick
• 7:03
  says,
• 7:04
  when
• 7:04
  we
• 7:05
  finish,
• 7:05
  we
• 7:05
  just
• 7:05
  got
• 7:06
  to.
• 7:06
  They
• 7:06
  want
• 7:06
  it
• 7:07
  spread
• 7:07
  around
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  certain
• 7:08
  place
• 7:08
  where
• 7:08
  he
• 7:08
  stood.
• 7:11
  Okay.
• 7:11
  So
• 7:12
  I
• 7:12
  stood
• 7:12
  there
• 7:12
  now
• 7:13
  and
• 7:13
  all
• 7:13
  of
• 7:13
  a
• 7:13
  sudden
• 7:13
  he's
• 7:13
  the
• 7:14
  vicar's
• 7:14
  saying
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  prayers
• 7:15
  and
• 7:15
  a
• 7:16
  little
• 7:16
  song
• 7:17
  came
• 7:17
  up
• 7:17
  and
• 7:17
  whatever.
• 7:18
  And
• 7:19
  I'm
• 7:19
  standing
• 7:19
  there,
• 7:20
  I'm
• 7:20
  thinking,
• 7:21
  christ,
• 7:21
  AM
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  Only
• 7:21
  19,
• 7:22
  Daddy?
• 7:22
  18.
• 7:23
  19.
• 7:23
  Yeah,
• 7:23
  yeah,
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  course.
• 7:24
  Everything.
• 7:25
  Yeah.
• 7:25
  Serious
• 7:25
  stuff.
• 7:26
  Yeah,
• 7:26
  yeah.
• 7:26
  This
• 7:26
  is
• 7:26
  serious.
• 7:27
  Like,
• 7:27
  you
• 7:27
  know
• 7:27
  me.
• 7:28
  Yeah.
• 7:28
  So
• 7:29
  afterwards
• 7:29
  he
• 7:29
  said
• 7:29
  he
• 7:29
  couldn't
• 7:30
  put
• 7:30
  the.
• 7:30
  I
• 7:30
  remember
• 7:31
  putting.
• 7:32
  Put
• 7:32
  the
• 7:32
  Ashes
• 7:32
  down
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  a
• 7:33
  bit
• 7:33
  of
• 7:33
  wind,
• 7:33
  Kevin,
• 7:34
  some
• 7:35
  flew
• 7:35
  off.
• 7:36
  I
• 7:37
  looked
• 7:37
  up
• 7:37
  and
• 7:37
  there's
• 7:38
  everybody
• 7:38
  crying.
• 7:38
  I'm
• 7:39
  thinking,
• 7:39
  this
• 7:39
  is
• 7:39
  so
• 7:40
  sad.
• 7:40
  Yeah.
• 7:42
  And
• 7:42
  it
• 7:43
  was
• 7:43
  just
• 7:43
  a
• 7:43
  pleasure
• 7:43
  thing.
• 7:44
  Right.
• 7:44
  Invite
• 7:44
  me
• 7:44
  to.
• 7:45
  Yes.
• 7:45
  To.
• 7:46
  Yes.
• 7:47
  To
• 7:47
  do
• 7:47
  the
• 7:47
  Ashes,
• 7:48
  like,
• 7:48
  you
• 7:48
  know.
• 7:48
  Yeah,
• 7:49
  yeah.
• 7:51
  There's
• 7:51
  two
• 7:51
  more
• 7:51
  stories
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  want
• 7:52
  to
• 7:52
  tell
• 7:52
  you,
• 7:52
  but
• 7:52
  I'll
• 7:53
  tell
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  at
• 7:54
  the
• 7:54
  end,
• 7:54
  surely.
• 7:55
  Let's
• 7:55
  go
• 7:55
  back
• 7:55
  to
• 7:55
  the
• 7:56
  Burnley
• 7:56
  game.
• 7:56
  That.
• 7:57
  Just,
• 7:57
  just,
• 7:58
  just
• 7:58
  quick,
• 7:58
  Nico,
• 7:59
  just
• 7:59
  quickly.
• 7:59
  On
• 8:00
  that
• 8:00
  Burnley
• 8:00
  game,
• 8:00
  when
• 8:00
  you
• 8:01
  talked
• 8:01
  about
• 8:01
  the.
• 8:02
  The
• 8:02
  Homesdale
• 8:03
  Road
• 8:03
  and
• 8:03
  end,
• 8:04
  you.
• 8:05
  There's
• 8:05
  a
• 8:05
  picture
• 8:05
  of
• 8:05
  you,
• 8:06
  right?
• 8:06
  That
• 8:06
  iconic
• 8:07
  picture
• 8:07
  where
• 8:07
  you're
• 8:07
  jumping
• 8:08
  up
• 8:08
  and
• 8:08
  there's
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  Homesdale
• 8:09
  behind
• 8:09
  you.
• 8:09
  Correct.
• 8:11
  Yes.
• 8:11
  Yeah.
• 8:11
  It's
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  great
• 8:12
  picture,
• 8:12
  mate.
• 8:12
  Black
• 8:13
  and
• 8:13
  white
• 8:13
  picture.
• 8:13
  That's
• 8:14
  right.
• 8:14
  Yeah.
• 8:14
  Brilliant,
• 8:15
  Brilliant.
• 8:16
  Go
• 8:16
  on,
• 8:16
  mate,
• 8:17
  tell
• 8:17
  me.
• 8:17
  Definitely.
• 8:18
  But
• 8:18
  anyway,
• 8:18
  so.
• 8:19
  So
• 8:19
  we're
• 8:20
  like,
• 8:20
  as
• 8:20
  you
• 8:21
  say,
• 8:22
  we
• 8:22
  win
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  game
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  we
• 8:23
  run
• 8:23
  in
• 8:23
  afterwards
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  it
• 8:25
  was
• 8:25
  just
• 8:25
  actually
• 8:26
  nuts,
• 8:26
  mate.
• 8:27
  Yeah,
• 8:27
  it
• 8:27
  was
• 8:27
  like.
• 8:28
  Absolutely,
• 8:29
  yeah.
• 8:31
  Phenomenal.
• 8:32
  The
• 8:32
  people
• 8:32
  running
• 8:33
  on
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  pitch,
• 8:33
  you
• 8:34
  couldn't
• 8:34
  get
• 8:34
  it.
• 8:34
  Couldn't
• 8:35
  get
• 8:35
  through
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  bloody.
• 8:36
  The
• 8:36
  people,
• 8:37
  you
• 8:38
  know,
• 8:38
  it
• 8:38
  was.
• 8:38
  I
• 8:39
  said,
• 8:39
  whatever.
• 8:40
  They
• 8:40
  were
• 8:40
  trying
• 8:40
  to
• 8:40
  rip
• 8:40
  your
• 8:40
  shirt
• 8:41
  off.
• 8:41
  They're
• 8:41
  trying
• 8:41
  to
• 8:42
  do
• 8:42
  this,
• 8:42
  do
• 8:42
  that.
• 8:43
  It
• 8:43
  was
• 8:43
  just
• 8:44
  unbelievable.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:45
  everybody
• 8:46
  was
• 8:46
  just
• 8:46
  so
• 8:46
  happy.
• 8:47
  It
• 8:47
  was.
• 8:47
  It
• 8:47
  was.
• 8:48
  It
• 8:48
  was
• 8:49
  brilliant.
• 8:49
  It
• 8:49
  was
• 8:50
  brilliant.
• 8:50
  I
• 8:50
  mean,
• 8:51
  it
• 8:51
  was.
• 8:51
  I'll
• 8:52
  check
• 8:52
  them
• 8:52
  in
• 8:52
  there.
• 8:53
  I
• 8:53
  mean,
• 8:54
  this.
• 8:54
  Now,
• 8:55
  from
• 8:55
  that
• 8:55
  final
• 8:55
  whistle.
• 8:56
  Yeah.
• 8:57
  To
• 8:57
  when
• 8:57
  we're
• 8:58
  upstairs.
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  think
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  might
• 8:59
  have
• 8:59
  seen
• 8:59
  pictures
• 9:00
  when
• 9:00
  we're
• 9:00
  upstairs
• 9:00
  and
• 9:01
  we're
• 9:02
  wishing
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  we
• 9:02
  were
• 9:03
  up
• 9:03
  in
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  board
• 9:04
  director's
• 9:04
  box.
• 9:04
  Yeah.
• 9:06
  We're
• 9:06
  waving
• 9:06
  and
• 9:07
  Teddy
• 9:07
  the
• 9:07
  bell
• 9:07
  was
• 9:08
  up
• 9:08
  there.
• 9:08
  We're
• 9:08
  all
• 9:08
  seeing.
• 9:08
  Thank
• 9:09
  you.
• 9:09
  From
• 9:09
  that
• 9:09
  moment
• 9:10
  till
• 9:11
  Monday
• 9:11
  morning,
• 9:12
  that
• 9:12
  was
• 9:12
  a
• 9:12
  Friday
• 9:13
  night.
• 9:13
  I
• 9:14
  can't
• 9:14
  remember
• 9:14
  a
• 9:14
  thing.
• 9:15
  Well,
• 9:16
  it's
• 9:17
  funny
• 9:17
  you
• 9:17
  say
• 9:17
  that,
• 9:18
  Nico.
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  did
• 9:19
  one
• 9:19
  for
• 9:19
  two
• 9:20
  days.
• 9:20
  Yeah,
• 9:21
  well,
• 9:21
  that
• 9:22
  weekend,
• 9:24
  for
• 9:24
  some
• 9:24
  weird
• 9:25
  reason.
• 9:26
  Yeah.
• 9:27
  I
• 9:27
  don't
• 9:27
  know
• 9:27
  how
• 9:27
  it
• 9:27
  happened,
• 9:27
  but
• 9:28
  that
• 9:28
  whole
• 9:28
  weekend
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  went
• 9:29
  out
• 9:29
  with
• 9:29
  Wolshie
• 9:29
  that
• 9:30
  whole
• 9:30
  weekend
• 9:30
  and
• 9:31
  it
• 9:31
  was.
• 9:31
  Weird
• 9:33
  to
• 9:33
  be
• 9:33
  there
• 9:33
  because
• 9:34
  we
• 9:34
  wouldn't.
• 9:34
  We.
• 9:35
  We
• 9:35
  always
• 9:35
  went
• 9:35
  in
• 9:35
  together.
• 9:37
  Yeah.
• 9:37
  Loves
• 9:38
  cut.
• 9:38
  The
• 9:38
  other
• 9:39
  boys,
• 9:39
  like,
• 9:39
  you
• 9:39
  know,
• 9:39
  it's
• 9:40
  whatever.
• 9:41
  And
• 9:41
  we
• 9:41
  were.
• 9:42
  Croydon
• 9:43
  was
• 9:43
  absolutely
• 9:45
  banging.
• 9:45
  But
• 9:46
  didn't
• 9:46
  you.
• 9:46
  It
• 9:46
  was
• 9:47
  unbelievable.
• 9:47
  You
• 9:47
  had
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  go
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  America
• 9:48
  on
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  Monday,
• 9:49
  though,
• 9:49
  didn't
• 9:49
  you,
• 9:49
  as
• 9:50
  I
• 9:50
  remember.
• 9:51
  Well.
• 9:51
  Well,
• 9:52
  this
• 9:52
  is.
• 9:52
  This
• 9:52
  is
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  thing
• 9:53
  was
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  Thing
• 9:53
  was,
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  All
• 9:55
  Internationals
• 9:58
  were
• 9:59
  that
• 9:59
  week,
• 9:59
  that
• 10:00
  week,
• 10:00
  coming
• 10:00
  week.
• 10:01
  Yeah.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:01
  I
• 10:01
  was
• 10:02
  selected
• 10:02
  for
• 10:02
  Wales,
• 10:02
  so
• 10:03
  I
• 10:03
  didn't
• 10:03
  go
• 10:03
  to
• 10:03
  America.
• 10:04
  Right.
• 10:04
  Oh,
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  was
• 10:05
  the
• 10:06
  only
• 10:06
  one
• 10:06
  in
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  squad
• 10:07
  that
• 10:07
  didn't
• 10:07
  go
• 10:07
  to
• 10:07
  America
• 10:08
  because
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  was
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  only
• 10:09
  one.
• 10:10
  No,
• 10:11
  Kenny
• 10:11
  didn't
• 10:12
  go
• 10:12
  as
• 10:12
  well
• 10:12
  because
• 10:12
  me
• 10:12
  and
• 10:13
  him,
• 10:13
  he
• 10:13
  was
• 10:13
  picked
• 10:13
  for
• 10:13
  England,
• 10:14
  I
• 10:14
  was
• 10:14
  picked
• 10:15
  for
• 10:15
  Wales.
• 10:15
  Yeah.
• 10:15
  And
• 10:15
  I
• 10:16
  was
• 10:16
  in
• 10:16
  your
• 10:16
  internationals.
• 10:17
  Yeah.
• 10:17
  So
• 10:18
  we
• 10:18
  didn't
• 10:18
  go.
• 10:19
  We
• 10:19
  didn't
• 10:19
  go
• 10:19
  to
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  American
• 10:20
  trip.
• 10:20
  So
• 10:21
  I've
• 10:21
  never
• 10:21
  been
• 10:21
  to
• 10:21
  America.
• 10:22
  Wow.
• 10:23
  Wow.
• 10:24
  But.
• 10:25
  But
• 10:25
  that
• 10:25
  was.
• 10:25
  That
• 10:26
  was
• 10:26
  some.
• 10:27
  Yeah,
• 10:27
  that
• 10:27
  was
• 10:27
  some
• 10:28
  crazy
• 10:28
  weekend,
• 10:28
  man.
• 10:29
  Crazy.
• 10:29
  Crazy.
• 10:30
  Oh,
• 10:30
  that
• 10:30
  was
• 10:30
  good.
• 10:30
  That
• 10:30
  was
• 10:30
  stupid.
• 10:31
  That
• 10:31
  was.
• 10:31
  It
• 10:31
  was
• 10:32
  fantastic.
• 10:32
  It
• 10:33
  wasn't
• 10:33
  stupid.
• 10:33
  It
• 10:33
  was
• 10:34
  nothing
• 10:34
  wrong.
• 10:35
  No,
• 10:35
  it
• 10:35
  was
• 10:35
  just
• 10:36
  so.
• 10:36
  Yeah.
• 10:36
  I've
• 10:36
  never
• 10:37
  seen
• 10:37
  so
• 10:37
  many
• 10:38
  people
• 10:38
  happy
• 10:38
  in
• 10:39
  all
• 10:39
  my
• 10:39
  life.
• 10:39
  The
• 10:40
  Woodman.
• 10:40
  The
• 10:40
  Woodman
• 10:41
  and
• 10:41
  Scarlets
• 10:41
  has
• 10:42
  never
• 10:42
  made
• 10:42
  any
• 10:42
  as
• 10:43
  much
• 10:43
  money.
• 10:45
  Tell
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  what,
• 10:45
  the
• 10:46
  times
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  fell
• 10:46
  in
• 10:47
  that,
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  fifth
• 10:48
  one
• 10:48
  in
• 10:48
  Scarlet.
• 10:53
  What?
• 10:54
  Yeah,
• 10:54
  yeah,
• 10:55
  yeah,
• 10:55
  mate.
• 10:56
  It
• 10:56
  was
• 10:56
  different
• 10:57
  days.
• 10:58
  Great
• 10:58
  times,
• 10:59
  great
• 10:59
  times,
• 10:59
  great
• 11:00
  times,
• 11:00
  great
• 11:00
  time.
• 11:00
  Croydon
• 11:01
  was
• 11:01
  good
• 11:01
  then,
• 11:01
  mate.
• 11:03
  Yeah.
• 11:03
  Well,
• 11:03
  it's
• 11:04
  been
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  long
• 11:04
  time
• 11:04
  since
• 11:04
  I've
• 11:05
  been
• 11:05
  there,
• 11:05
  but
• 11:05
  yeah,
• 11:06
  I
• 11:06
  hear
• 11:06
  bad
• 11:07
  stories.
• 11:08
  There's
• 11:08
  two
• 11:09
  stories
• 11:09
  I
• 11:09
  got
• 11:09
  to
• 11:09
  tell
• 11:09
  you.
• 11:10
  Go
• 11:10
  on.
• 11:10
  One.
• 11:12
  One
• 11:12
  is
• 11:12
  for
• 11:14
  Teddy
• 11:14
  Venables.
• 11:15
  Yes,
• 11:15
  please.
• 11:15
  Being
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  played
• 11:18
  in
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  youth
• 11:18
  cup
• 11:18
  game.
• 11:19
  It
• 11:20
  was
• 11:20
  a
• 11:20
  semi
• 11:20
  final
• 11:20
  game
• 11:21
  actually,
• 11:21
  and
• 11:22
  I
• 11:22
  was
• 11:22
  only
• 11:23
  16,
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  think
• 11:24
  it
• 11:24
  was
• 11:24
  the
• 11:24
  second
• 11:24
  year
• 11:24
  we
• 11:25
  won
• 11:25
  it.
• 11:25
  Yeah,
• 11:25
  it
• 11:25
  was
• 11:26
  17,
• 11:26
  just
• 11:27
  coming
• 11:27
  17.
• 11:28
  And
• 11:29
  we
• 11:29
  played
• 11:29
  the
• 11:30
  game.
• 11:30
  It
• 11:30
  was
• 11:30
  the
• 11:31
  corner
• 11:31
  files.
• 11:32
  We
• 11:32
  beat
• 11:33
  some
• 11:33
  of
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  sellers.
• 11:34
  Because
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  crazy
• 11:35
  thing
• 11:35
  about
• 11:35
  sellers
• 11:35
  was
• 11:36
  playing
• 11:36
  the
• 11:36
  youth
• 11:36
  team
• 11:37
  then
• 11:37
  we
• 11:37
  were
• 11:38
  getting
• 11:38
  cringe
• 11:38
  like
• 11:39
  78.
• 11:39
  Yeah,
• 11:40
  you
• 11:40
  were.
• 11:40
  Yeah.
• 11:40
  To
• 11:41
  watch
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  youth
• 11:41
  team
• 11:41
  play.
• 11:42
  Yes.
• 11:42
  It
• 11:42
  was
• 11:43
  amazing.
• 11:43
  I
• 11:44
  think
• 11:44
  you
• 11:44
  played
• 11:44
  Leeds,
• 11:45
  Nico.
• 11:45
  That'd
• 11:46
  be
• 11:46
  my
• 11:46
  guess.
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  think
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  might
• 11:47
  have
• 11:48
  played
• 11:48
  Leeds.
• 11:48
  Was
• 11:49
  it
• 11:49
  in
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  quarter
• 11:49
  final
• 11:49
  that
• 11:50
  year?
• 11:51
  Well,
• 11:51
  whatever.
• 11:51
  Yeah.
• 11:53
  Got
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  message
• 11:54
  there.
• 11:54
  I'm
• 11:54
  getting
• 11:54
  changed
• 11:55
  after
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  game.
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  got
• 11:56
  a
• 11:56
  message,
• 11:56
  going
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  go
• 11:57
  upstairs,
• 11:57
  see
• 11:57
  10
• 11:58
  the
• 11:58
  boss.
• 11:59
  I
• 11:59
  went,
• 11:59
  oh,
• 11:59
  what's,
• 11:59
  what's
• 12:00
  happening
• 12:00
  now?
• 12:00
  I'm
• 12:01
  thinking,
• 12:01
  christ,
• 12:01
  what
• 12:01
  I've
• 12:02
  done.
• 12:02
  So
• 12:03
  I
• 12:03
  got
• 12:04
  up,
• 12:04
  I
• 12:04
  opened
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  court
• 12:05
  and
• 12:05
  my
• 12:05
  brother
• 12:07
  is
• 12:07
  in
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  room
• 12:07
  with
• 12:08
  my.
• 12:09
  My
• 12:10
  brother's
• 12:10
  in
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  room
• 12:11
  with
• 12:12
  Terry.
• 12:13
  And
• 12:15
  I
• 12:15
  said,
• 12:16
  steve,
• 12:16
  how
• 12:16
  you
• 12:16
  doing,
• 12:16
  mate?
• 12:17
  He
• 12:17
  said,
• 12:18
  yeah.
• 12:19
  He
• 12:19
  said,
• 12:19
  yeah,
• 12:20
  okay.
• 12:20
  I
• 12:20
  said,
• 12:20
  what
• 12:20
  are
• 12:20
  you
• 12:21
  doing
• 12:21
  here?
• 12:21
  When
• 12:21
  you
• 12:21
  tell
• 12:21
  me
• 12:21
  you
• 12:21
  come
• 12:22
  in.
• 12:22
  He
• 12:22
  said,
• 12:23
  I
• 12:23
  couldn't
• 12:23
  tell
• 12:23
  you.
• 12:23
  I
• 12:23
  said,
• 12:23
  mom's
• 12:24
  died
• 12:24
  this
• 12:24
  evening.
• 12:26
  No,
• 12:26
  mate,
• 12:27
  I'm
• 12:27
  sorry.
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  went,
• 12:28
  were
• 12:29
  you
• 12:29
  joking
• 12:29
  me?
• 12:31
  And
• 12:31
  I
• 12:31
  remember
• 12:32
  Terry,
• 12:32
  I
• 12:33
  started
• 12:33
  climbing,
• 12:34
  of
• 12:34
  course
• 12:35
  I
• 12:35
  was
• 12:36
  absolute
• 12:36
  devastated.
• 12:37
  And
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  remember
• 12:38
  Teddy
• 12:39
  Venables
• 12:39
  said
• 12:39
  to
• 12:39
  me,
• 12:40
  peter,
• 12:41
  go
• 12:41
  home
• 12:43
  and
• 12:43
  come
• 12:44
  back
• 12:44
  when
• 12:45
  you're
• 12:45
  ready.
• 12:46
  Yeah?
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  don't
• 12:47
  care.
• 12:48
  Don't
• 12:48
  worry
• 12:48
  about.
• 12:48
  You've
• 12:49
  cut.
• 12:49
  Don't
• 12:50
  worry
• 12:50
  about
• 12:50
  training,
• 12:51
  don't
• 12:51
  worry
• 12:51
  about
• 12:51
  nothing
• 12:52
  like
• 12:52
  that.
• 12:52
  You
• 12:53
  go
• 12:53
  home,
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  come
• 12:54
  back
• 12:54
  when
• 12:54
  you're
• 12:54
  ready.
• 12:55
  Yeah,
• 12:57
  I
• 12:57
  went
• 12:57
  home
• 12:58
  that
• 12:59
  night.
• 13:00
  They.
• 13:00
  They
• 13:01
  carried
• 13:01
  me
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  the
• 13:01
  taxi
• 13:02
  themselves.
• 13:02
  There
• 13:02
  was
• 13:02
  a
• 13:03
  taxi
• 13:03
  waitress
• 13:03
  downstairs.
• 13:05
  The
• 13:05
  club
• 13:05
  put
• 13:06
  me
• 13:06
  in
• 13:06
  a
• 13:06
  taxi
• 13:07
  over
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  pandemic.
• 13:08
  We
• 13:08
  got
• 13:08
  a
• 13:08
  train
• 13:08
  home.
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  just.
• 13:10
  I.
• 13:10
  I
• 13:10
  just
• 13:11
  sobbed
• 13:11
  and
• 13:11
  sobbed
• 13:12
  and
• 13:12
  sobbed
• 13:13
  all
• 13:13
  the
• 13:14
  way
• 13:14
  on.
• 13:14
  Gary.
• 13:15
  Yeah.
• 13:16
  I
• 13:16
  knew
• 13:17
  my
• 13:17
  mother
• 13:17
  wasn't
• 13:17
  well,
• 13:18
  but
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  didn't
• 13:18
  think
• 13:18
  she
• 13:18
  was
• 13:18
  that
• 13:19
  bad.
• 13:19
  Right.
• 13:20
  And.
• 13:22
  And,
• 13:23
  yeah,
• 13:23
  about
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  week
• 13:24
  later,
• 13:24
  my
• 13:24
  mum
• 13:24
  got
• 13:24
  buried.
• 13:26
  My
• 13:27
  father
• 13:27
  had
• 13:27
  no
• 13:27
  money.
• 13:28
  The
• 13:28
  club
• 13:28
  paid
• 13:28
  for
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  funeral.
• 13:31
  Right,
• 13:31
  Crystal
• 13:32
  Palace.
• 13:32
  Yeah.
• 13:32
  Because
• 13:33
  we
• 13:33
  had
• 13:33
  no
• 13:33
  money.
• 13:33
  We
• 13:34
  had
• 13:34
  no
• 13:34
  money.
• 13:35
  We
• 13:35
  were
• 13:36
  that
• 13:36
  poor
• 13:36
  family.
• 13:36
  Yeah.
• 13:38
  I
• 13:38
  couldn't
• 13:39
  afford
• 13:39
  it.
• 13:39
  Sixteen
• 13:40
  quid
• 13:40
  away.
• 13:40
  Yeah.
• 13:41
  So
• 13:42
  kind
• 13:42
  of,
• 13:44
  you
• 13:45
  know,
• 13:45
  that
• 13:46
  was
• 13:46
  kind
• 13:46
  of
• 13:46
  a
• 13:46
  really,
• 13:47
  really
• 13:47
  sad
• 13:47
  time,
• 13:48
  probably.
• 13:49
  But
• 13:49
  I've
• 13:49
  always
• 13:50
  thanked
• 13:51
  Teddy
• 13:51
  Renals
• 13:51
  every
• 13:52
  time
• 13:52
  I
• 13:52
  seen
• 13:52
  him
• 13:52
  afterwards.
• 13:53
  And
• 13:53
  we
• 13:54
  came
• 13:54
  across
• 13:54
  because
• 13:54
  he
• 13:55
  went
• 13:55
  off
• 13:55
  to
• 13:55
  different
• 13:56
  places,
• 13:56
  I
• 13:56
  had
• 13:57
  different
• 13:57
  places,
• 13:57
  and
• 13:58
  we
• 13:58
  always
• 13:58
  met
• 13:59
  up
• 13:59
  and
• 13:59
  we
• 13:59
  always.
• 13:59
  Very,
• 14:00
  very
• 14:00
  good
• 14:00
  friends
• 14:01
  from.
• 14:01
  And
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  always
• 14:02
  thanked
• 14:03
  him
• 14:03
  for
• 14:03
  that
• 14:03
  day
• 14:03
  and
• 14:03
  saying
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  me,
• 14:05
  come
• 14:05
  on,
• 14:05
  when
• 14:05
  you
• 14:06
  come
• 14:06
  back,
• 14:06
  when
• 14:06
  you're
• 14:06
  ready.
• 14:07
  I
• 14:07
  away
• 14:08
  for
• 14:08
  10
• 14:08
  days.
• 14:08
  And
• 14:08
  I
• 14:08
  came
• 14:08
  back
• 14:09
  like,
• 14:09
  you
• 14:09
  know
• 14:09
  what
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  mean?
• 14:10
  I
• 14:10
  didn't
• 14:10
  want
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  be.
• 14:11
  I
• 14:11
  didn't
• 14:11
  want
• 14:11
  to
• 14:12
  be
• 14:12
  in
• 14:12
  Wales
• 14:12
  missing
• 14:12
  all
• 14:12
  that
• 14:13
  football
• 14:13
  and
• 14:13
  missing
• 14:14
  all
• 14:14
  that,
• 14:14
  you
• 14:14
  know,
• 14:15
  kind
• 14:15
  of
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  Youth
• 14:15
  cup
• 14:15
  and
• 14:16
  all
• 14:16
  that.
• 14:16
  So
• 14:17
  I
• 14:17
  came
• 14:17
  back,
• 14:18
  we
• 14:18
  broke
• 14:18
  into
• 14:18
  the
• 14:19
  first
• 14:19
  team,
• 14:20
  we
• 14:20
  had
• 14:20
  a
• 14:20
  great
• 14:21
  time.
• 14:21
  We
• 14:21
  were,
• 14:22
  you
• 14:22
  know,
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  score,
• 14:23
  the
• 14:24
  lads
• 14:24
  were
• 14:24
  so
• 14:24
  close
• 14:25
  together
• 14:26
  there.
• 14:26
  We
• 14:26
  had.
• 14:26
  There
• 14:27
  was
• 14:27
  a
• 14:27
  few
• 14:27
  issues
• 14:28
  with
• 14:28
  certain
• 14:29
  players
• 14:30
  in
• 14:30
  the
• 14:31
  team.
• 14:32
  They
• 14:32
  knew
• 14:32
  that
• 14:33
  we
• 14:33
  were,
• 14:34
  we
• 14:34
  were
• 14:34
  coming
• 14:34
  to
• 14:35
  take
• 14:35
  their
• 14:35
  places.
• 14:36
  Of
• 14:37
  course,
• 14:37
  you
• 14:37
  know,
• 14:38
  one
• 14:38
  or
• 14:38
  two
• 14:39
  personal.
• 14:40
  One
• 14:40
  or
• 14:40
  two
• 14:41
  of
• 14:41
  them
• 14:41
  got
• 14:41
  personal.
• 14:41
  Me.
• 14:42
  Yeah.
• 14:42
  But
• 14:44
  you,
• 14:45
  you
• 14:46
  come
• 14:46
  here,
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  added,
• 14:48
  like,
• 14:48
  obviously
• 14:49
  an
• 14:49
  unbelievable
• 14:50
  career
• 14:50
  and
• 14:50
  you've
• 14:51
  played
• 14:51
  under
• 14:51
  some,
• 14:51
  like,
• 14:52
  top,
• 14:52
  top
• 14:52
  managers.
• 14:53
  Would
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  say
• 14:54
  that?
• 14:56
  Yes,
• 14:56
  mate,
• 14:57
  of
• 14:57
  course.
• 14:59
  Yeah.
• 14:59
  Go
• 14:59
  on,
• 15:00
  mate,
• 15:00
  go
• 15:00
  on.
• 15:00
  Would
• 15:01
  you
• 15:01
  say.
• 15:02
  Would
• 15:02
  you
• 15:03
  say
• 15:04
  Terry
• 15:04
  Venables,
• 15:05
  Malcolm
• 15:05
  Allison
• 15:05
  were
• 15:06
  probably
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  best
• 15:07
  you
• 15:07
  worked
• 15:08
  under,
• 15:08
  or
• 15:08
  was
• 15:08
  there
• 15:09
  anybody
• 15:09
  else
• 15:09
  that
• 15:10
  stood
• 15:10
  out
• 15:10
  and
• 15:10
  he
• 15:10
  thought,
• 15:10
  you
• 15:10
  know
• 15:10
  what?
• 15:11
  No,
• 15:11
  he's
• 15:11
  a
• 15:11
  good
• 15:11
  coach,
• 15:12
  he's
• 15:12
  a
• 15:12
  good
• 15:12
  man.
• 15:12
  Manager.
• 15:13
  I
• 15:13
  mean,
• 15:14
  obviously
• 15:14
  Malcolm's
• 15:15
  mayor,
• 15:15
  management
• 15:15
  is
• 15:16
  superb.
• 15:16
  What's
• 15:17
  super,
• 15:17
  Gary?
• 15:17
  I
• 15:18
  was.
• 15:18
  I
• 15:18
  was
• 15:19
  very,
• 15:19
  very,
• 15:20
  very
• 15:20
  lucky
• 15:21
  person
• 15:21
  in
• 15:21
  football
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  play.
• 15:22
  There's
• 15:23
  a
• 15:23
  very,
• 15:23
  very
• 15:23
  good
• 15:24
  coaches
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  Managers.
• 15:25
  Yeah.
• 15:26
  And
• 15:26
  all
• 15:26
  different
• 15:27
  kind
• 15:27
  of
• 15:28
  ways
• 15:28
  of
• 15:28
  looking
• 15:28
  at
• 15:29
  it.
• 15:29
  I
• 15:30
  would
• 15:30
  say
• 15:30
  Malcolm
• 15:30
  was
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  best
• 15:33
  manager
• 15:34
  I
• 15:34
  had.
• 15:35
  Right.
• 15:36
  Because
• 15:37
  you
• 15:37
  can
• 15:38
  learn
• 15:38
  and
• 15:38
  listen
• 15:39
  and
• 15:39
  everything
• 15:40
  he
• 15:40
  said,
• 15:40
  you
• 15:40
  made
• 15:40
  sense.
• 15:41
  Yes.
• 15:43
  Teddy
• 15:43
  Renables
• 15:44
  was
• 15:44
  technically
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  best
• 15:45
  coach.
• 15:46
  Right.
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  worked
• 15:47
  with.
• 15:47
  Yeah.
• 15:48
  I
• 15:48
  wouldn't
• 15:48
  say
• 15:49
  Terry
• 15:49
  was
• 15:49
  the.
• 15:51
  The
• 15:51
  most
• 15:51
  honest
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  managers.
• 15:53
  Right.
• 15:54
  In
• 15:54
  a.
• 15:55
  In
• 15:55
  a.
• 15:55
  Let's
• 15:56
  not
• 15:56
  be
• 15:56
  impersonal.
• 15:56
  No.
• 15:58
  His
• 15:58
  coaching
• 15:58
  ability
• 15:59
  was
• 15:59
  fantastic.
• 16:00
  Yes.
• 16:01
  Yes.
• 16:02
  Don
• 16:02
  Hill,
• 16:03
  well
• 16:03
  played
• 16:03
  in.
• 16:05
  Wow.
• 16:06
  Don
• 16:06
  Hare
• 16:07
  was
• 16:07
  an
• 16:07
  excellent
• 16:08
  coach
• 16:08
  again.
• 16:09
  Yeah.
• 16:09
  Yeah.
• 16:11
  An
• 16:11
  excellent
• 16:11
  coach.
• 16:13
  I
• 16:13
  then
• 16:14
  went
• 16:14
  to
• 16:14
  Luton
• 16:15
  and
• 16:15
  I
• 16:16
  ended
• 16:16
  up
• 16:16
  with
• 16:16
  a
• 16:17
  manager
• 16:18
  called
• 16:18
  David
• 16:18
  Pleat,
• 16:19
  who,
• 16:20
  I
• 16:20
  will
• 16:20
  tell
• 16:20
  you,
• 16:22
  wow.
• 16:23
  Was
• 16:23
  as
• 16:24
  manager.
• 16:24
  David
• 16:25
  Pleat
• 16:25
  was
• 16:25
  the
• 16:26
  best
• 16:27
  knowledge
• 16:28
  of
• 16:28
  players
• 16:30
  I
• 16:30
  knew.
• 16:31
  He
• 16:32
  knew
• 16:32
  every
• 16:32
  player
• 16:33
  and
• 16:34
  reserve
• 16:34
  team
• 16:35
  player
• 16:36
  in
• 16:36
  the
• 16:37
  Championship,
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  Premier
• 16:39
  League,
• 16:39
  everything,
• 16:40
  every
• 16:40
  club.
• 16:41
  Wow.
• 16:42
  He
• 16:42
  would
• 16:42
  not
• 16:42
  stop.
• 16:43
  He
• 16:43
  learned.
• 16:43
  Once
• 16:43
  he
• 16:44
  stopped
• 16:44
  playing,
• 16:45
  he
• 16:45
  played
• 16:45
  at
• 16:45
  Forest,
• 16:46
  at
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  club.
• 16:47
  Once
• 16:47
  he
• 16:47
  stopped
• 16:47
  playing,
• 16:48
  he
• 16:48
  went
• 16:49
  and
• 16:49
  managed
• 16:49
  and
• 16:49
  coached
• 16:50
  and
• 16:51
  he.
• 16:51
  He
• 16:51
  had
• 16:51
  his.
• 16:52
  He
• 16:52
  just
• 16:52
  loved
• 16:52
  watching
• 16:53
  football
• 16:53
  game.
• 16:53
  And
• 16:53
  he
• 16:54
  knew
• 16:54
  every
• 16:54
  kid,
• 16:55
  everybody.
• 16:58
  If
• 16:58
  you
• 16:58
  wanted
• 16:59
  somebody
• 16:59
  to
• 16:59
  ask
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  about
• 17:00
  who
• 17:00
  you
• 17:00
  want
• 17:00
  to
• 17:00
  sign
• 17:00
  a
• 17:01
  player,
• 17:01
  you
• 17:01
  go
• 17:01
  and
• 17:01
  ask
• 17:02
  David
• 17:02
  Cleat.
• 17:03
  But
• 17:03
  his
• 17:04
  knowledge
• 17:04
  of
• 17:04
  players
• 17:05
  was
• 17:05
  brilliant.
• 17:06
  After.
• 17:06
  After
• 17:06
  Luton,
• 17:07
  he
• 17:07
  went
• 17:07
  on
• 17:07
  to
• 17:07
  manage
• 17:08
  Tottenham,
• 17:08
  didn't
• 17:08
  he?
• 17:09
  That's
• 17:09
  right,
• 17:09
  he
• 17:09
  did,
• 17:10
  yes.
• 17:10
  Yeah,
• 17:10
  he
• 17:10
  did.
• 17:11
  Yeah.
• 17:13
  From
• 17:13
  him,
• 17:13
  but
• 17:14
  that's
• 17:14
  a
• 17:14
  different
• 17:14
  story.
• 17:16
  That's
• 17:17
  something.
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  don't
• 17:17
  want
• 17:17
  to
• 17:17
  go
• 17:17
  in
• 17:17
  on
• 17:18
  a
• 17:18
  podcast.
• 17:18
  No,
• 17:19
  no,
• 17:19
  no.
• 17:20
  I'm
• 17:20
  not
• 17:20
  gonna.
• 17:20
  I'm
• 17:21
  not.
• 17:21
  I'm
• 17:21
  not
• 17:21
  gonna
• 17:21
  get
• 17:22
  into
• 17:22
  anything
• 17:22
  like
• 17:22
  that.
• 17:23
  But
• 17:23
  when.
• 17:24
  When
• 17:24
  you.
• 17:26
  So
• 17:26
  after
• 17:26
  palace,
• 17:27
  you
• 17:27
  went.
• 17:27
  You
• 17:27
  went
• 17:27
  to
• 17:28
  Arsenal,
• 17:28
  right?
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  went
• 17:29
  to
• 17:29
  Arsenal
• 17:30
  when
• 17:30
  you.
• 17:30
  Arsenal.
• 17:30
  That
• 17:30
  was
• 17:31
  a
• 17:31
  strange
• 17:31
  one.
• 17:32
  The
• 17:33
  problem
• 17:33
  at
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  palace
• 17:34
  was
• 17:34
  then
• 17:34
  Raymond
• 17:35
  Bloyer
• 17:35
  left,
• 17:36
  Malcolm
• 17:36
  had
• 17:36
  left,
• 17:37
  Teddy
• 17:38
  was
• 17:38
  going.
• 17:39
  Ron
• 17:39
  Knowles
• 17:39
  took
• 17:40
  over
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  club.
• 17:41
  I
• 17:42
  must
• 17:42
  say,
• 17:42
  Ron
• 17:42
  Noads,
• 17:44
  personally,
• 17:45
  I
• 17:46
  think
• 17:46
  he
• 17:46
  was
• 17:46
  the
• 17:46
  worst
• 17:47
  chairman
• 17:47
  ever
• 17:47
  of
• 17:48
  Crystal
• 17:48
  Palace.
• 17:49
  I
• 17:49
  must
• 17:50
  tell
• 17:50
  you
• 17:50
  that.
• 17:52
  Why
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  say
• 17:52
  that
• 17:52
  is
• 17:53
  because
• 17:53
  he
• 17:53
  speaks
• 17:54
  well.
• 17:56
  Said.
• 17:57
  He
• 17:57
  speaks
• 17:57
  well
• 17:57
  of
• 17:57
  you.
• 17:58
  Well,
• 17:59
  whatever.
• 18:00
  No,
• 18:00
  I'm
• 18:00
  joking,
• 18:01
  joking,
• 18:01
  joking.
• 18:02
  What.
• 18:03
  What
• 18:03
  I'm
• 18:04
  saying
• 18:04
  is
• 18:04
  that
• 18:05
  he
• 18:05
  came
• 18:05
  with
• 18:06
  nothing.
• 18:06
  Yeah,
• 18:07
  yeah.
• 18:07
  Crystal
• 18:08
  Palace.
• 18:08
  He
• 18:08
  rinsed
• 18:09
  them
• 18:09
  and
• 18:09
  he
• 18:09
  ended
• 18:09
  up
• 18:10
  a
• 18:10
  very,
• 18:10
  very
• 18:10
  rich
• 18:11
  man
• 18:11
  from
• 18:12
  Crystal
• 18:12
  Palace.
• 18:13
  He
• 18:13
  rinsed
• 18:13
  them.
• 18:14
  Do
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  understand
• 18:15
  what
• 18:15
  I'm
• 18:15
  saying?
• 18:15
  Yeah,
• 18:15
  absolutely.
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  mean,
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  remember
• 18:16
  the
• 18:17
  day
• 18:17
  when
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  went
• 18:17
  to
• 18:18
  Arsenal.
• 18:18
  I
• 18:19
  trained
• 18:19
  at
• 18:19
  Mitchum.
• 18:19
  In
• 18:19
  the
• 18:20
  morning,
• 18:20
  we
• 18:20
  were
• 18:20
  down
• 18:20
  at
• 18:20
  Mitchum
• 18:21
  training,
• 18:22
  and
• 18:22
  I
• 18:23
  played
• 18:23
  a
• 18:23
  game,
• 18:23
  came
• 18:23
  back.
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  came
• 18:25
  back
• 18:25
  and
• 18:26
  I
• 18:26
  went
• 18:27
  home.
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  was
• 18:27
  picking
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  kids
• 18:28
  up
• 18:28
  in
• 18:28
  the
• 18:28
  afternoon,
• 18:29
  phone
• 18:29
  call
• 18:29
  went
• 18:30
  a
• 18:30
  lot,
• 18:30
  called
• 18:31
  Derek
• 18:31
  Healy,
• 18:31
  who
• 18:32
  was
• 18:32
  very
• 18:32
  friendly
• 18:32
  with
• 18:32
  Annie
• 18:33
  Warren.
• 18:33
  Yeah.
• 18:34
  At
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  time
• 18:35
  Arnie
• 18:35
  at
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  left,
• 18:35
  he
• 18:36
  went
• 18:36
  with
• 18:36
  QPR
• 18:37
  with
• 18:37
  Teddy
• 18:37
  Renables.
• 18:38
  Derek
• 18:39
  stayed
• 18:39
  at
• 18:39
  palace
• 18:39
  with
• 18:40
  Ron
• 18:40
  Notes.
• 18:41
  And
• 18:41
  Ronald's
• 18:42
  on
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  phone
• 18:42
  saying
• 18:43
  to
• 18:43
  me,
• 18:43
  and
• 18:44
  this
• 18:44
  is
• 18:44
  God's
• 18:44
  honest
• 18:45
  truth,
• 18:45
  that
• 18:46
  if
• 18:46
  you
• 18:46
  don't
• 18:47
  go
• 18:47
  to
• 18:47
  Arsenal,
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  club
• 18:48
  gets
• 18:48
  bankrupt.
• 18:49
  Wow,
• 18:49
  that's
• 18:50
  a
• 18:50
  lot
• 18:50
  of
• 18:50
  pressure
• 18:50
  on
• 18:51
  you,
• 18:51
  mate.
• 18:52
  And
• 18:52
  I'm
• 18:52
  just
• 18:52
  20
• 18:53
  years
• 18:53
  of
• 18:53
  age.
• 18:53
  Yeah,
• 18:54
  a
• 18:54
  lot
• 18:54
  of
• 18:54
  pressure
• 18:54
  on
• 18:55
  you.
• 18:55
  So
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  go
• 18:56
  over
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  Arsenal,
• 18:57
  you're
• 18:57
  not
• 18:57
  going
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  turn
• 18:58
  down
• 18:58
  after
• 18:58
  palace,
• 18:59
  mate.
• 19:00
  And
• 19:00
  what
• 19:00
  was
• 19:00
  going
• 19:00
  on
• 19:01
  at
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  Palace.
• 19:01
  Because
• 19:02
  things
• 19:02
  weren't
• 19:03
  right
• 19:03
  at
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  Palace.
• 19:03
  Yeah,
• 19:04
  but
• 19:04
  how
• 19:04
  do
• 19:04
  you
• 19:04
  turn
• 19:04
  down
• 19:05
  Arsenal
• 19:05
  anyway,
• 19:05
  whoever
• 19:06
  you
• 19:06
  are,
• 19:06
  you
• 19:06
  know,
• 19:06
  it's
• 19:07
  tough
• 19:07
  on
• 19:07
  it.
• 19:07
  That's
• 19:08
  a
• 19:08
  tough
• 19:08
  one.
• 19:08
  Yeah.
• 19:09
  Yes.
• 19:10
  So
• 19:10
  anyway,
• 19:10
  I
• 19:10
  went
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  Arsenal.
• 19:11
  I
• 19:12
  had
• 19:12
  a
• 19:12
  good
• 19:12
  time
• 19:12
  at
• 19:13
  Arsenal.
• 19:13
  Arsenal
• 19:14
  was
• 19:14
  a
• 19:14
  bit
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  a
• 19:14
  funny
• 19:15
  club
• 19:15
  then
• 19:15
  he
• 19:15
  was
• 19:15
  going
• 19:15
  through
• 19:16
  a
• 19:16
  period
• 19:17
  where
• 19:18
  it
• 19:18
  just
• 19:18
  finished
• 19:18
  3
• 19:19
  FA
• 19:19
  Cup
• 19:19
  Finals
• 19:20
  on
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  spin
• 19:21
  and
• 19:22
  they
• 19:22
  had
• 19:22
  to
• 19:22
  change
• 19:22
  their
• 19:23
  team.
• 19:23
  They
• 19:23
  tried
• 19:24
  to
• 19:24
  change
• 19:24
  their
• 19:24
  team,
• 19:24
  which
• 19:24
  they
• 19:25
  did.
• 19:26
  Things
• 19:26
  went
• 19:26
  a
• 19:26
  little
• 19:27
  bit
• 19:27
  wonky.
• 19:28
  Terry
• 19:29
  Neal
• 19:29
  was
• 19:29
  a
• 19:30
  lovely
• 19:30
  man.
• 19:30
  Terry.
• 19:31
  Yeah,
• 19:31
  Terry.
• 19:32
  But
• 19:33
  Don
• 19:33
  was
• 19:33
  the
• 19:33
  engine
• 19:34
  of
• 19:34
  that
• 19:34
  club.
• 19:35
  Wow,
• 19:36
  mate,
• 19:36
  you
• 19:36
  worked
• 19:37
  under
• 19:37
  some
• 19:37
  proper
• 19:37
  coaches,
• 19:38
  eh,
• 19:38
  Don
• 19:38
  Al
• 19:39
  Venables,
• 19:39
  Alison.
• 19:40
  Wow.
• 19:40
  So
• 19:40
  then
• 19:41
  all
• 19:41
  of
• 19:41
  a
• 19:41
  sudden,
• 19:41
  then
• 19:41
  I
• 19:41
  played
• 19:42
  there,
• 19:42
  a
• 19:42
  couple
• 19:42
  of
• 19:42
  bad
• 19:43
  injuries.
• 19:43
  Injury.
• 19:43
  I
• 19:43
  ripped
• 19:44
  my
• 19:44
  knee
• 19:44
  ligaments
• 19:45
  twice
• 19:45
  in
• 19:45
  two
• 19:45
  different
• 19:46
  ones.
• 19:47
  Broke
• 19:47
  my
• 19:47
  leg.
• 19:48
  So
• 19:49
  went
• 19:49
  back
• 19:49
  to
• 19:49
  palace
• 19:49
  on
• 19:50
  loan.
• 19:50
  Steve
• 19:51
  Copple
• 19:51
  was
• 19:51
  there.
• 19:51
  Stephen
• 19:52
  Ian
• 19:52
  Evans,
• 19:53
  great
• 19:53
  sea
• 19:53
  cop.
• 19:54
  Well,
• 19:54
  not
• 19:54
  a
• 19:54
  problem.
• 19:55
  But
• 19:55
  he
• 19:55
  always
• 19:56
  had
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  issue
• 19:56
  with,
• 19:57
  you
• 19:57
  know,
• 19:57
  with
• 19:57
  muddy
• 19:58
  and
• 19:58
  all
• 19:59
  these
• 19:59
  things
• 19:59
  going
• 19:59
  on
• 20:00
  in
• 20:00
  the
• 20:00
  past
• 20:00
  at
• 20:00
  the
• 20:01
  time.
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  mean,
• 20:02
  I'm
• 20:02
  not
• 20:02
  saying.
• 20:02
  I
• 20:02
  wouldn't
• 20:03
  say
• 20:03
  one
• 20:04
  notes.
• 20:04
  I
• 20:05
  just
• 20:05
  look
• 20:05
  at
• 20:05
  it.
• 20:05
  He
• 20:06
  ended
• 20:06
  up
• 20:06
  owning
• 20:06
  the
• 20:07
  ground.
• 20:07
  He
• 20:07
  ended
• 20:08
  up
• 20:08
  on
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  certain
• 20:09
  golf
• 20:09
  courses
• 20:10
  around
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  area.
• 20:11
  He
• 20:11
  ended
• 20:11
  up
• 20:12
  doing
• 20:12
  this,
• 20:12
  doing
• 20:12
  that.
• 20:12
  He
• 20:13
  went
• 20:13
  mad.
• 20:13
  He
• 20:13
  went
• 20:14
  mad
• 20:14
  and
• 20:14
  sold
• 20:14
  all
• 20:14
  in
• 20:15
  players
• 20:16
  for
• 20:16
  something
• 20:16
  like
• 20:17
  40
• 20:17
  odd
• 20:18
  million,
• 20:18
  which
• 20:18
  is
• 20:18
  a
• 20:19
  lot
• 20:19
  of
• 20:19
  money
• 20:19
  in
• 20:19
  them
• 20:19
  days.
• 20:20
  I
• 20:20
  wouldn't
• 20:21
  say
• 20:21
  put
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  money
• 20:22
  back
• 20:22
  in
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  club.
• 20:22
  Yeah,
• 20:23
  okay.
• 20:23
  He
• 20:23
  had
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  Ian
• 20:24
  Roy,
• 20:24
  you're
• 20:24
  going
• 20:25
  to
• 20:25
  Wembley
• 20:25
  and
• 20:25
  all
• 20:25
  that.
• 20:26
  I
• 20:26
  understand
• 20:26
  that.
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  understand
• 20:28
  all
• 20:28
  that.
• 20:29
  But
• 20:29
  I
• 20:29
  think
• 20:30
  Wednesday
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  Malcolm
• 20:32
  and
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  Teddy
• 20:32
  Reynolds
• 20:33
  rest
• 20:33
  the
• 20:34
  football
• 20:34
  inside
• 20:35
  of
• 20:35
  Crystal
• 20:35
  palace
• 20:35
  win.
• 20:36
  It
• 20:36
  didn't.
• 20:36
  It
• 20:37
  was
• 20:37
  normal.
• 20:37
  Correct.
• 20:38
  Correct.
• 20:42
  Wow.
• 20:43
  I
• 20:43
  told
• 20:44
  you.
• 20:44
  It
• 20:44
  just
• 20:45
  gets
• 20:45
  better
• 20:45
  and
• 20:45
  better
• 20:46
  and
• 20:46
  better.
• 20:47
  That
• 20:47
  was
• 20:48
  part
• 20:48
  two
• 20:48
  of
• 20:49
  my
• 20:49
  chat
• 20:49
  with
• 20:49
  Peter
• 20:50
  Nicholas
• 20:51
  and
• 20:51
  you
• 20:51
  know,
• 20:52
  we
• 20:52
  had
• 20:52
  such
• 20:53
  a
• 20:53
  great
• 20:53
  conversation
• 20:53
  that
• 20:54
  I
• 20:54
  said
• 20:54
  it
• 20:54
  would
• 20:54
  be
• 20:54
  three
• 20:55
  parts,
• 20:55
  it
• 20:55
  might
• 20:55
  even
• 20:56
  be
• 20:56
  four.
• 20:57
  It
• 20:57
  was
• 20:57
  that
• 20:58
  good.
• 20:59
  So
• 20:59
  tune
• 21:00
  in
• 21:00
  again
• 21:00
  next
• 21:00
  week
• 21:00
  for
• 21:01
  part
• 21:01
  three.
• 21:02
  I've
• 21:02
  been
• 21:03
  Gary
• 21:03
  Spencer.
• 21:04
  You've
• 21:04
  been
• 21:04
  listening
• 21:04
  to
• 21:04
  Peter
• 21:05
  Nicholas
• 21:05
  and
• 21:06
  this
• 21:06
  is
• 21:06
  team
• 21:06
  of
• 21:06
  the
• 21:07
  80s.
• 21:07
  Thanks
• 21:08
  very
• 21:08
  much
• 21:08
  for
• 21:08
  listening
• 21:09
  and
• 21:09
  don't
• 21:10
  forget
• 21:10
  to
• 21:10
  subscribe.
• 21:11
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• 21:12
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• 21:12
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• 21:13
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• 21:13
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• 21:14
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• 21:15
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• 21:15
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• 21:15
  going
• 21:15
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• 21:15
  see
• 21:16
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• 21:16
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• 21:16
  up.
• 21:16
  Thanks
• 21:17
  again.
• 21:17
  Goodbye.
• 21:28
  Sam.