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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome the late base. Thanks for joining us.
- 0:07Speaker 2: I'm James McPherson with Caleb Bond and pretty in pink
- 0:10Speaker 2: Danika did Georgia.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Oh thank you.
- 0:12Speaker 4: We actually we're all nicely nice palette tonight.
- 0:14Speaker 3: It was quite well done.
- 0:16Speaker 5: But i'd call that more purple byself jacks.
- 0:19Speaker 3: But still we're nice.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Are the shoes pink or purple?
- 0:21Speaker 3: The shoes of purple? Shoes of purple?
- 0:23Speaker 4: But I appreciate that we've all made a little efforts
- 0:26Speaker 4: to be matchy MATCHI team.
- 0:28Speaker 2: All right, that's a nice moment. Here's what's coming up
- 0:31Speaker 2: on the program tonight. One Nation's South Australian branch is
- 0:35Speaker 2: at odds with its federal office over fracking. Is this
- 0:38Speaker 2: a sign of trouble or is it a sign that
- 0:40Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson's party has matured. Complaints that the human rights
- 0:44Speaker 2: of illegal migrants were breached after they were served the
- 0:47Speaker 2: wrong kind of sausages on their deportation flight back to Pakistan,
- 0:52Speaker 2: And why restaurants increasingly hitting diners with a ten percent
- 0:55Speaker 2: surcharge for group bookings.
- 0:57Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of that.
- 0:58Speaker 2: And more shortly, but first, the Institute of Public Affairs
- 1:01Speaker 2: is calling for climate education in primary schools to be scrapped,
- 1:05Speaker 2: saying it only serves to create unnecessary anxiety in children.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Researcher and psychologist Claire Rowe told The Daily Telegraph she'd
- 1:14Speaker 2: seen a ten year old who is compulsively checking weather forecasts,
- 1:18Speaker 2: terrified that rain would lead to flooding and to rising
- 1:21Speaker 2: sea levels. A mother told The Daily Telegraph how her
- 1:24Speaker 2: child was distraught, having been told in grade four the
- 1:28Speaker 2: sun would explode if there wasn't drastic changes to human behavior.
- 1:32Speaker 2: But here's what I found most concerning about these reports
- 1:36Speaker 2: published today. Psychologists are said to be typically validating the
- 1:40Speaker 2: children's fear as the right way to feel and suggesting
- 1:44Speaker 2: activism as a way of coping. Now, no matter what
- 1:47Speaker 2: your views on climate change, I think we should all
- 1:50Speaker 2: agree the last thing we should be doing Danika is
- 1:53Speaker 2: robbing our children of their innocence and their optimism.
- 1:57Speaker 4: Absolutely, And as this report says that they're finding increasing
- 2:01Speaker 4: moments where it's these life or death scenarios that are
- 2:05Speaker 4: being painted to children and they're using quite graphic imagery.
- 2:09Speaker 4: Do we really need a whole new generation of Greta
- 2:12Speaker 4: Thunbergs for goodness sake? How dare you every five minutes,
- 2:17Speaker 4: and I think this is a real worry. You might
- 2:18Speaker 4: remember a couple of years ago, there were all those
- 2:20Speaker 4: children who skipped school, do you remember, in the middle
- 2:22Speaker 4: of the day, and they went and protested in capital
- 2:25Speaker 4: cities across the country as a strike for climate literal teenagers,
- 2:30Speaker 4: kids skipping school.
- 2:31Speaker 3: And then you had kids on camera balling their eyes out.
- 2:35Speaker 4: They were crying because they had been so brainwashed into
- 2:38Speaker 4: thinking that there was going to be this big climate
- 2:40Speaker 4: armageddon and this big doomsday moment.
- 2:42Speaker 3: They had genuinely scared for their lives.
- 2:45Speaker 4: But also, what does that say about the teachers, the
- 2:48Speaker 4: teachers that are bringing up this next generation.
- 2:51Speaker 3: We have a whole new cohort of activists.
- 2:56Speaker 4: They're not teachers, they're activists, and children, when they're young,
- 3:00Speaker 4: they should be taught the basics English and matts, very
- 3:03Speaker 4: very basic. Instead they're being taught about the climate alarmism.
- 3:07Speaker 4: And I really really worry for children these days because
- 3:11Speaker 4: clearly it's messing them up.
- 3:12Speaker 5: Well, as you were talking about this, James Chester received
- 3:15Speaker 5: an email from a mob called covering Climate Now inviting
- 3:19Speaker 5: me to go to some special discussion about the hurricane season.
- 3:22Speaker 5: Obviously over in America and talks about El Nino and
- 3:25Speaker 5: this stuff, but it says this is just one force
- 3:28Speaker 5: at play with climate change's role in fueling stronger storms
- 3:32Speaker 5: likely not to be mentioned in the official forecast. Ah,
- 3:36Speaker 5: so you know this is what's right. Oh, you're not
- 3:39Speaker 5: talking enough about climate change. The problem evidently here is
- 3:42Speaker 5: that we're talking too much about climate change. And so
- 3:45Speaker 5: you've got one of the issues, as mentioned in this report,
- 3:47Speaker 5: is that the kiddies are having their minds filled with.
- 3:49Speaker 6: This scary stuff at school.
- 3:51Speaker 5: So the kids then have issues with that to develop
- 3:54Speaker 5: anxiety or other concerns. They're worried about the future of
- 3:58Speaker 5: the world and how they hell they're going to live
- 3:59Speaker 5: in a world and whatever. And you're talking to little
- 4:02Speaker 5: primary school kids about this, you can understand how such
- 4:05Speaker 5: complex ideas confuse their young minds. Same as transgender stuff, right,
- 4:11Speaker 5: So they then have problems, and Mum and dad say, Jesus,
- 4:15Speaker 5: we need to get little Johnny checked out. So little
- 4:17Speaker 5: Johnny is sent off to the psychologist. And psychology is
- 4:22Speaker 5: you're not a doctor if you're a psychologist, and it's
- 4:24Speaker 5: an allied health profession, and so many people in allied
- 4:28Speaker 5: health these days themselves seem to be captured by ideology,
- 4:33Speaker 5: and so what this report is saying from the IPA
- 4:36Speaker 5: that these kids go off to seek help for what
- 4:39Speaker 5: has been inflicted upon them by the school, and then
- 4:42Speaker 5: the psychologists, instead of trying to work out how to
- 4:45Speaker 5: cope with the emotions they are experiencing, are basically saying, well, yeah,
- 4:48Speaker 5: you should feel like that because things are bad. Well,
- 4:52Speaker 5: that's not why you've gone to a psychologist, and they're
- 4:55Speaker 5: going to the transgender I think it's exactly the same.
- 4:57Speaker 5: I mean, we've seen, you know, people like Andrew Amos
- 4:59Speaker 5: and others who've spoken up about gender ideology in psychology
- 5:04Speaker 5: and psychiatry, and they are held down by their colleagues
- 5:08Speaker 5: for doing so, they come after by the professional bodies
- 5:12Speaker 5: for doing so, and seemingly it's exactly the same with
- 5:15Speaker 5: climate change. Surely your first job as a psychologist is
- 5:18Speaker 5: to go, I have a patient in front of me
- 5:20Speaker 5: who needs help for distress that they are experiencing. How
- 5:23Speaker 5: do I alleviate their distress? And instead they're saying, well, actually,
- 5:27Speaker 5: this is just a normal human experience. There are plenty
- 5:31Speaker 5: of things that I would say are being pathologized these
- 5:34Speaker 5: days that don't need to be.
- 5:37Speaker 6: This is not one of them.
- 5:38Speaker 5: We are actually inflicting something upon kids that they don't
- 5:42Speaker 5: need to experience.
- 5:43Speaker 2: And as anyone thought about the long term implications of
- 5:46Speaker 2: preaching doom and gloom to children, Aside from loss of innocence,
- 5:51Speaker 2: they become radicalized, they also become incredibly distrusting of institutions.
- 5:56Speaker 2: And I know it's kind of cool to not have
- 5:58Speaker 2: trust in institutions.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Society falls apart if there's.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Not at least a little bit of trust and faith
- 6:04Speaker 2: in our institutions. And then we talk often on this
- 6:06Speaker 2: program about declining birth rates.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Well, you've got a whole generation who form.
- 6:11Speaker 2: The opinion that there's no point pursuing family formation if
- 6:15Speaker 2: the earth is not going to be around. The irony
- 6:18Speaker 2: of course in this is while we've got teachers preaching
- 6:21Speaker 2: doom and gloom regarding the climate report's just come out
- 6:24Speaker 2: this last week saying that the IPCC, the UN body
- 6:28Speaker 2: that puts out the annual climate reports, they've decided the
- 6:32Speaker 2: next climate report needs to tone down the retric a
- 6:35Speaker 2: little bit because quote unquote, the worst case scenarios they've
- 6:39Speaker 2: been publishing are implausible. Now all of those scenarios are
- 6:43Speaker 2: based on computer modeling, right, so the scenarios are as
- 6:47Speaker 2: good or as bad as whatever they feed into their
- 6:50Speaker 2: computer model. And of course none of the scenarios have
- 6:53Speaker 2: come true. Despite the UN Secretary General, remember recently he
- 6:57Speaker 2: talked about we're on.
- 6:58Speaker 1: A highway to climate hell.
- 7:00Speaker 2: And all of the predictions by el Gore and so
- 7:03Speaker 2: many others we could name, none of them come true.
- 7:06Speaker 2: They've decided, you know what, maybe we better just tone
- 7:09Speaker 2: down the retric because people are tuning out. Not everybody, clearly,
- 7:13Speaker 2: school teacher ret is not. But I mean that's the irony. Right,
- 7:18Speaker 2: So in school classes you've got doom and gloom. Well,
- 7:21Speaker 2: at the same time you've got the UN saying, you
- 7:23Speaker 2: know what, we need to just dial back the retric
- 7:25Speaker 2: a little bit because A we're scaring everybody and b
- 7:28Speaker 2: no one's really paying attention.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Was the boy who cried wo.
- 7:31Speaker 4: The bunker of doom list. Let me just tell you
- 7:33Speaker 4: what was actually included in that list?
- 7:35Speaker 3: I mean seriously.
- 7:36Speaker 4: So it plotted scenarios, as James said, including significant global
- 7:40Speaker 4: temperature increases and sea level rises, global crop failures. But
- 7:45Speaker 4: here was my favorite, even potential extinction events on the
- 7:48Speaker 4: scale of dinosaurs. So we're talking the most extreme of extreme.
- 7:55Speaker 4: And when I first heard this story, my first thought
- 7:57Speaker 4: was Donald Trump has been saying this four years now,
- 8:01Speaker 4: and he has been truly vindicated by the UN because
- 8:05Speaker 4: last year he actually stood at the UN and said
- 8:08Speaker 4: to their faces that this climate scam is destroying nations.
- 8:13Speaker 3: And he is right.
- 8:14Speaker 4: I mean, you look across the world right now, it's
- 8:16Speaker 4: happening here in Australia. We are going broke and backwards
- 8:19Speaker 4: on this renewables only experiment. The UK, it's the same thing.
- 8:23Speaker 4: Their electricity prices, their energy bills are going through the
- 8:26Speaker 4: roof because they want to phase out their their fossil
- 8:30Speaker 4: fuels as well. Donald Trump has been vindicated by this,
- 8:34Speaker 4: and he actually put out a statement the other day
- 8:37Speaker 4: and he was very very critical of the Democrats' decisions
- 8:40Speaker 4: because you know, people like Joe Biden, they were so
- 8:42Speaker 4: heavily invested in all of this, and he called them
- 8:45Speaker 4: the Democrats. He said, after fifteen years of Democrats promising
- 8:49Speaker 4: that climate change is going to destroy the planet, the
- 8:52Speaker 4: United Nations top Climate Committee just admitted that its own projections.
- 8:55Speaker 3: Were wrong, wrong, wrong, in capital letters.
- 9:00Speaker 4: I actually take this as sheer of vindication for Donald Trump,
- 9:04Speaker 4: who's been talking about this for years.
- 9:06Speaker 5: Well, someone needs to tell the teachers and psychologists that
- 9:09Speaker 5: we're not heading.
- 9:10Speaker 6: Towards global boiling a.
- 9:11Speaker 5: And props to the IP and CLARO for pointing this
- 9:13Speaker 5: stuff out because it is so important. And I would
- 9:17Speaker 5: implore you to have a chat with your children or
- 9:21Speaker 5: anyone you know in your life that has kids, particularly
- 9:23Speaker 5: primary school kids going to school, and flag this stuff
- 9:26Speaker 5: with them and start to talk to their kids about
- 9:29Speaker 5: what they may or may not be hearing at school
- 9:31Speaker 5: because a lot of this stuff flies under the radar
- 9:33Speaker 5: and parents are not aware of exactly what their kids
- 9:37Speaker 5: are being taught. But spare a thought for the decent teachers, though,
- 9:41Speaker 5: simply trying to battle away and do their jobs properly.
- 9:45Speaker 5: I mean, they have to bear the brunt of all
- 9:47Speaker 5: of this crap as well. I mean they're just trying
- 9:49Speaker 5: to teach kids and meanwhile they're being told by their
- 9:52Speaker 5: colleagues they've got a parrot on about climate change all
- 9:54Speaker 5: the time, and they're also facing rampant abuse, not from
- 9:58Speaker 5: students but from parents.
- 10:00Speaker 6: Now we've talked about this.
- 10:01Speaker 5: Before, there was a recent report here in Australia about
- 10:04Speaker 5: the number of teachers and principles in particular, who were
- 10:07Speaker 5: facing abuse from parents having to lock themselves in their offices,
- 10:12Speaker 5: pick up times and all sorts of stuff because they're
- 10:15Speaker 5: being abused. But Australia's not the only country facing this.
- 10:18Speaker 5: Over in the UK, the UK Telegraph is reporting that
- 10:21Speaker 5: the Association of School and College Leaders held a meeting
- 10:25Speaker 5: recently at which they said that ninety percent of head
- 10:28Speaker 5: teachers and other senior leaders in a recent survey said
- 10:32Speaker 5: they had been on the receiving end of quote challenging
- 10:35Speaker 5: behavior not from pupils, but from teachers that included rudeness
- 10:40Speaker 5: and disrespect.
- 10:41Speaker 6: Sixty percent of them said.
- 10:43Speaker 5: They'd had verbal abuse and threats from parents within the
- 10:47Speaker 5: past year. I mean, how ridiculous is that. But to
- 10:50Speaker 5: make it even worse, these parents now fancy themselves as
- 10:54Speaker 5: bush lawyers because they've discovered AI and so they reckon
- 10:59Speaker 5: they put some a hodgepodge legal argument into CHAT, GPT
- 11:03Speaker 5: or some other system, it will tell them chapter and
- 11:06Speaker 5: verse what teachers can and cannot do.
- 11:09Speaker 6: Yes, these parents are trying to.
- 11:11Speaker 5: Usurp the authority of the teachers in the classroom. You
- 11:14Speaker 5: wonder why teachers can't discipline children anymore, but to burnish
- 11:18Speaker 5: with a few examples. This is from the UK Telegraph.
- 11:21Speaker 5: They quote one teacher so that one parent sent in
- 11:24Speaker 5: a long and very strange note about human rights after
- 11:28Speaker 5: her seven year old was made to line up outside
- 11:31Speaker 5: in the rain when the bell rang. Another teacher said,
- 11:34Speaker 5: I've had another parent send a letter which quoted various
- 11:37Speaker 5: legal precedents, all because their child was sent out of
- 11:41Speaker 5: lessons for being disruptive. When we invited the parents to
- 11:44Speaker 5: school to have a conversation about what happened, they printed
- 11:47Speaker 5: out rings of AI generated information and kept referring to
- 11:52Speaker 5: their print out. Apparently there's also been threats of legal
- 11:55Speaker 5: action because a school gave a kid a cold lunch.
- 11:59Speaker 5: I mean, goodness, sacuriously, it's not bad enough that we
- 12:02Speaker 5: have entitled parents thinking they know better about you know,
- 12:05Speaker 5: little Johnny and how he should be disciplined at all.
- 12:08Speaker 6: This sort of stuff.
- 12:09Speaker 5: Now they reckon they can go to AI and find
- 12:12Speaker 5: out exactly how the world works. If I understand why
- 12:16Speaker 5: the churn rate in teaching is so high, Because if
- 12:20Speaker 5: you're a decent teacher and all you want to do
- 12:22Speaker 5: is actually teach kids, you have to deal with idiots
- 12:26Speaker 5: in your own profession who want to divert you from
- 12:28Speaker 5: that to ideological things, and then you have to deal
- 12:31Speaker 5: with idiot parents who think they know better than you
- 12:33Speaker 5: are doing your own jobs.
- 12:35Speaker 4: If you know anything about AI or even like chat
- 12:38Speaker 4: GPT for example, it actually reinforces whatever you put in there.
- 12:41Speaker 4: It tells you that you're right and yes, you know
- 12:44Speaker 4: do it in this matter.
- 12:44Speaker 3: So I can just.
- 12:46Speaker 4: Imagine when chat GPT writes up this legal letter and
- 12:50Speaker 4: it probably says at the end, this is a very
- 12:52Speaker 4: calm and considered way to handle the situation. Well done,
- 12:56Speaker 4: and congratulations to you. The parents are probably like, yes,
- 12:59Speaker 4: look at me, go this is terrific. So what does
- 13:02Speaker 4: this tell us Well, basically, it is bringing up the
- 13:05Speaker 4: next generation to be an absolute bunch of snowflakes. And
- 13:08Speaker 4: once it's supported to one day, these children are going
- 13:11Speaker 4: to be entering the workforce right and they're going to
- 13:14Speaker 4: realize pretty quickly that mummy and daddy are not going
- 13:18Speaker 4: to be there to save your backside and write in
- 13:20Speaker 4: these AI generated legal letters. You're actually going to have
- 13:23Speaker 4: to do some work and stand up on your own
- 13:25Speaker 4: two feet. But none of these kids will be able
- 13:26Speaker 4: to because they are upset that they have to stand
- 13:29Speaker 4: in the rain for a couple of minutes when the
- 13:31Speaker 4: bell rings, or that their lunch was cold not hot boo.
- 13:35Speaker 4: Who we are bringing up the next generation to be
- 13:38Speaker 4: absolute WIMPs, and I despair over this. Secondly, what are
- 13:43Speaker 4: parents actually teaching their children? Are basically saying, it's okay,
- 13:46Speaker 4: little Johnny, if you don't know what to write, just
- 13:48Speaker 4: plug it into chat, GPT or any sort of AI
- 13:51Speaker 4: software and it will tell you what to write. You
- 13:53Speaker 4: don't have to use your brain. You'll have to use
- 13:55Speaker 4: the writing skills that you should be learning in the classroom.
- 13:57Speaker 4: Instead of worrying about all this sort of ridict things,
- 14:01Speaker 4: just use AI to deal with things.
- 14:03Speaker 3: I just I despair.
- 14:04Speaker 4: And these are the teachers who actually want to teach.
- 14:07Speaker 4: They're not activists, They're just trying to do their job, James,
- 14:10Speaker 4: for goodness sake.
- 14:11Speaker 2: I agree with what you're saying about snowflakes, but I
- 14:13Speaker 2: think it's much worse than that.
- 14:15Speaker 1: What we're doing is we're raising a generation who have
- 14:18Speaker 1: zero respect for authority totally.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Remember when you were a little kid and your parents
- 14:22Speaker 2: you'd say, but why, and your mum or dad would
- 14:24Speaker 2: say because I said so yes, And it would drive
- 14:27Speaker 2: you nuts as a kid, because you expect an explanation,
- 14:30Speaker 2: you expect reason. So it's not good enough for your
- 14:32Speaker 2: parent to simply say I'm the parent, you're not, so
- 14:35Speaker 2: you don't get an explanation.
- 14:36Speaker 1: I'm the boss.
- 14:37Speaker 2: And I've realized raising our kid, that's a very important
- 14:42Speaker 2: lesson to learn.
- 14:43Speaker 1: And then when the kids would get in trouble.
- 14:44Speaker 2: At school, and often you know what, it was touch
- 14:47Speaker 2: and go, whether the teacher was being unfair or not.
- 14:50Speaker 2: But as a parent, you've got to decide what's more
- 14:52Speaker 2: important stopping little Johnny from standing out in the rain
- 14:55Speaker 2: or teaching little Johnny. You know what, At home, you're
- 14:58Speaker 2: under my authority. When you're at school, you're under the
- 15:00Speaker 2: teachers authority. And I'm not going to undermine the teacher's
- 15:03Speaker 2: authority because if I do that, I'm teaching you to
- 15:06Speaker 2: never respect authority.
- 15:07Speaker 1: And you'll always be under authority. I said to my kids.
- 15:10Speaker 2: When you get your driver's license, you under the policeman's authority.
- 15:13Speaker 2: When you get a job, you're under your employer's authority.
- 15:16Speaker 2: And if ever you become Elon Musk or Donald Trump,
- 15:19Speaker 2: God pray you believe you're under God's authority and not
- 15:21Speaker 2: a law unto yourself. If you don't teach kids to
- 15:25Speaker 2: respect authority and early, they never will and so much
- 15:28Speaker 2: worse than snowflakes.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Though you're right about that.
- 15:31Speaker 2: You end up with kids who don't respect any authority,
- 15:34Speaker 2: are a law unto themselves, and you get anarchy in society.
- 15:37Speaker 2: So these parents are not doing their kids any favors
- 15:41Speaker 2: at all by arguing every little point about their kids
- 15:44Speaker 2: in the principal's office and letting their kids see that.
- 15:47Speaker 3: But also you've got to learn to toughen up a
- 15:50Speaker 3: little bit.
- 15:50Speaker 4: If your sangwiches cold one day or your food's called
- 15:53Speaker 4: who cares?
- 15:54Speaker 3: For goodness? Human rights?
- 15:58Speaker 4: Shouldn't that be a lesson to your child to say,
- 16:00Speaker 4: you know what, han, be grateful that you've got a meal,
- 16:03Speaker 4: Be grateful that you actually have lunch, and that we
- 16:06Speaker 4: can afford to send you to school, because there are
- 16:07Speaker 4: children out there who can't eat today and who would
- 16:10Speaker 4: love an opportunity to go to school and they simply can't.
- 16:13Speaker 3: It should be a lesson for children.
- 16:15Speaker 4: Not a letter written by AI as a legal threat
- 16:18Speaker 4: to oh, well, you know his lunch was cold?
- 16:20Speaker 1: You I've heard teachers say.
- 16:21Speaker 2: I always wondered, why is this kid so bad in class?
- 16:25Speaker 2: So I thought I'll catch up with the parents and
- 16:26Speaker 2: have a chat with them. And within thirty seconds of
- 16:28Speaker 2: meeting the parents, I realized why little Johnny's such a
- 16:31Speaker 2: mungoling class?
- 16:32Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah, I completely agree. Well, let's stay home now.
- 16:36Speaker 4: Corey Bernardi, who is One Nation South Australian leader, he
- 16:40Speaker 4: has gone against Pauline Hanson when it comes to fracking
- 16:44Speaker 4: in his state of South Australia. Now, Pauline Hanson has
- 16:48Speaker 4: been very big on the notion of drill baby drill,
- 16:50Speaker 4: and it's been something that she has been pushing quite well,
- 16:54Speaker 4: I would say, given that we are in a fuel.
- 16:56Speaker 3: Crisis right now.
- 16:57Speaker 4: But Cory Bernardi has voted against lifting the ban on
- 17:00Speaker 4: fracking for oil and gas in that state as well
- 17:03Speaker 4: as the Liberal Party both have gone against that. This
- 17:06Speaker 4: was a joint decision by the two Conservatives. Now One
- 17:11Speaker 4: Nation's decision has drawn the ire of a number of
- 17:15Speaker 4: parties and producers, including the Australian Energy Producer Chief Samantha McCulloch.
- 17:20Speaker 4: She says it beggars belief when we urgently need more
- 17:23Speaker 4: gas in the market, but Pauline Hanson is washing her
- 17:27Speaker 4: hands of this. She was asked to comment about it,
- 17:30Speaker 4: given that she's actually going to be making a major
- 17:32Speaker 4: speech in Adelaide tomorrow about the gas industry, and she said, no,
- 17:37Speaker 4: it's got nothing to do with me. I'm going to
- 17:39Speaker 4: leave it to my South Australian colleagues. Senator Hanson tomorrow
- 17:43Speaker 4: will reveal One Nation's offshore gas policy at the AEP conference,
- 17:47Speaker 4: but asked for comment on the state decision, said through
- 17:49Speaker 4: a spokesman, this was for the state leader and his
- 17:52Speaker 4: team to determine. Now this is where it gets interesting
- 17:56Speaker 4: to me, because you've got the labor Premier over there,
- 17:59Speaker 4: Peter maleyawscus he wants to lift the ten year ban
- 18:03Speaker 4: on the fracking that was actually imposed by the Liberal
- 18:06Speaker 4: Party back in twenty eighteen. And so Peter Malanowskis has
- 18:09Speaker 4: come out now accusing One Nation of continuing the same
- 18:12Speaker 4: policy madness that are left South Australia facing the gas
- 18:15Speaker 4: supply gaps.
- 18:17Speaker 3: I'm actually quite stunned by this move.
- 18:20Speaker 4: I've got to say, because you've got a labor government,
- 18:24Speaker 4: labor government, let's put that into perspective. Labor in that
- 18:28Speaker 4: state is calling for fracking, and you've got two conservative
- 18:31Speaker 4: parties saying they don't want it.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Now. Cory Bnardi has said that he has spoken to
- 18:35Speaker 3: a number.
- 18:36Speaker 4: Of locals that it would be an absolute disaster for
- 18:38Speaker 4: South Australia fight I do respect the fact that he
- 18:41Speaker 4: knows the state better than others, but we're talking about
- 18:44Speaker 4: energy policy here, at policy that One Nation has been
- 18:48Speaker 4: really the only party that's been pretty straight down the
- 18:50Speaker 4: line on Pauline Hansen's the only one saying we've got
- 18:53Speaker 4: to pull out of the Paris Agreement. We've got a drill,
- 18:56Speaker 4: baby drill. I mean, she has been fair dicome on this.
- 18:59Speaker 4: I just find it bizarre that the South Australian branch
- 19:03Speaker 4: would go against what I would say is a pretty
- 19:07Speaker 4: straightforward policy.
- 19:09Speaker 2: I think that you can support fracking without supporting absolutely
- 19:12Speaker 2: every fracking project that is suggested. And I also think
- 19:17Speaker 2: that there was a lot of talk how was Pauline
- 19:20Speaker 2: Hanson going to be able to bring big personalities and
- 19:25Speaker 2: sharp minds into the One Nation tent and give them
- 19:29Speaker 2: enough space to be their own man or be their
- 19:31Speaker 2: own woman, and not dominate and have things spin out
- 19:34Speaker 2: of control. And I think this is proof that one
- 19:38Speaker 2: Nation has matured. I don't think this is a problem
- 19:40Speaker 2: for one nation. I note that Melanowskis is not criticizing
- 19:44Speaker 2: the coalition. He's come after one Nation, which I would
- 19:47Speaker 2: take as a compliment if I was Pauline Hanson, that
- 19:50Speaker 2: the South Australian premier thinks the party is worth criticizing.
- 19:55Speaker 2: So I don't have a problem with this. And like
- 19:56Speaker 2: I said, it's horses for courses. They don't support this
- 19:59Speaker 2: project because, as you pointed out, the locals say it
- 20:02Speaker 2: would be a disaster for that area. But I don't
- 20:05Speaker 2: believe the South Australian One Nation organization is saying we're
- 20:09Speaker 2: against fracking per se, but in this instance they don't
- 20:12Speaker 2: believe it's the best thing for the environment.
- 20:14Speaker 5: The reason the Lives Institute of that ban in twenty
- 20:16Speaker 5: eighteen is because the Southeast is sort of traditional liberal territory.
- 20:21Speaker 5: It's the idea of cracking down there is deeply unpopular
- 20:24Speaker 5: with the farming communities, and so they said, well, we'll
- 20:26Speaker 5: exclude the Southeast from any fracking. And of course One
- 20:29Speaker 5: Nation is going after fundamentally the same voters, and so
- 20:33Speaker 5: they have decided to back in what the community wants.
- 20:35Speaker 5: That is their decision, and they're allowed to make that.
- 20:38Speaker 5: And I'm glad that Paul Hnson allows a state movement
- 20:42Speaker 5: of one nation to make its own decisions, because that
- 20:45Speaker 5: would otherwise spell the downfall. I think of one nation
- 20:49Speaker 5: as a state power. If the federal branch starts interfering
- 20:54Speaker 5: in the business of state branches and doesn't let let
- 20:57Speaker 5: them do their own thing, then it will all fall apart.
- 21:01Speaker 5: I mean the fact that Paul in Hanson is even
- 21:03Speaker 5: being asked to make comment about these things. I mean,
- 21:06Speaker 5: does anyone go and ask the Prime Minister to make
- 21:09Speaker 5: comment about what, you know, labor in New South Wales
- 21:11Speaker 5: is doing with state legislation or what labor in w
- 21:14Speaker 5: A is doing with state legislation. No, because we go, well,
- 21:17Speaker 5: he's the leader of the Federal party, and you know
- 21:20Speaker 5: Roger Cook is the leader of the State Party in
- 21:23Speaker 5: w A and Peter Malanarskus is the leader of the
- 21:26Speaker 5: State Party in South Australia. Chris Min's is the leader
- 21:29Speaker 5: of the State party in New South Wales. They run
- 21:31Speaker 5: their own races, they're allowed to have different opinions and
- 21:35Speaker 5: as we see quite often these days with Chris Mins
- 21:37Speaker 5: the premier of New South Wales. He's frequently at odds
- 21:40Speaker 5: with the federal Labor Party and.
- 21:42Speaker 6: Isn't afraid to say so.
- 21:44Speaker 5: You need to be able to have the state branches
- 21:47Speaker 5: saying what they want and doing what is good for
- 21:50Speaker 5: their state, what they believe is in the interest of
- 21:52Speaker 5: their states. And so I think it's a good thing
- 21:55Speaker 5: that Paul and Hanson steps back from this and says, no,
- 21:58Speaker 5: I'm not getting involved in this.
- 21:59Speaker 6: It's not business.
- 22:00Speaker 5: One nation essay has to be one nation essay and
- 22:03Speaker 5: do its own thing, even if it's policies are at
- 22:06Speaker 5: odds with the National part.
- 22:07Speaker 4: I guess it just opens you up to ridicule, right though,
- 22:09Speaker 4: that would be my only argument. Peter Malanawskis has as
- 22:12Speaker 4: you said, he's come out and slammed One Nation over this,
- 22:14Speaker 4: because it's very rare to get a Labor premier wanting
- 22:17Speaker 4: a policy like this and to almost have One Nation
- 22:19Speaker 4: and the Liberal Party for that matter, siding.
- 22:21Speaker 3: With Greenies on this.
- 22:23Speaker 4: But we criticize Anthony Alberenesi, for example, when Chris Mins
- 22:28Speaker 4: is at odds with him, because I mean, one recent
- 22:31Speaker 4: example was the anti Semitism Royal Commission it's something that
- 22:34Speaker 4: Chris Mins wanted and Anthony Albanesi didn't want. In the
- 22:38Speaker 4: last week, just an example I can think of, even
- 22:40Speaker 4: within the Liberal Party, you had that South Australian Senator
- 22:42Speaker 4: Andrew McLaughlin come out and that bizarre rant about the
- 22:46Speaker 4: negative connotations of the Liberal Party's migration plan. So I
- 22:50Speaker 4: understand that you've got people at odds with each other,
- 22:52Speaker 4: but it does then open you up to ridicule and
- 22:55Speaker 4: people go, well, there's fractures within the party, how are
- 22:57Speaker 4: they going to handle this?
- 22:58Speaker 5: Well, then the answer to that is to be like
- 23:00Speaker 5: the ALP And again this doesn't apply between state and federal.
- 23:03Speaker 5: But the answer to that is to just force everyone to.
- 23:05Speaker 6: Think the same way.
- 23:06Speaker 5: And ultimately I don't think that's a great thing either,
- 23:09Speaker 5: Like you don't get a conscious vote in the Labor Party,
- 23:11Speaker 5: you just do what you're told.
- 23:12Speaker 6: Is that what we want all parties to know.
- 23:14Speaker 4: I don't disagree with it, as I said, I just
- 23:17Speaker 4: think that I am just quite surprised, given that fuel
- 23:22Speaker 4: is at the forefront right now and we have an
- 23:25Speaker 4: energy and gas debate going on in this country. I
- 23:29Speaker 4: would have thought that the conservative side of politics would
- 23:32Speaker 4: have been more on the same page about what needs
- 23:36Speaker 4: to be done pretty quickly and urgently to.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Try it, but don't.
- 23:39Speaker 2: While most nights against ideology and ideologically driven electricians, I
- 23:44Speaker 2: think it's okay if they say, you know what, we're
- 23:46Speaker 2: not going to be driven by and you can be
- 23:48Speaker 2: driven by renewables ideology or you can be driven by
- 23:51Speaker 2: a what do you want to call it?
- 23:52Speaker 1: A free for all when it comes to energy ideology.
- 23:54Speaker 2: If they're saying, you know what, we're going to take
- 23:56Speaker 2: a common sense approach on a case by case base,
- 24:01Speaker 2: I wouldn't be critical of that.
- 24:02Speaker 3: Yeah, no, again, I understand.
- 24:05Speaker 4: Look, they know their local community is better than anyone,
- 24:07Speaker 4: so I don't disregard that what Corey Bernardi is doing.
- 24:10Speaker 4: I'm just saying that on something so critical right now
- 24:13Speaker 4: when we're literally in the middle of a crisis and
- 24:15Speaker 4: people do want to see the pole suggests. It was
- 24:18Speaker 4: even in the Sky News Polse poll we had about
- 24:20Speaker 4: two months ago that a lot of Australians do want
- 24:22Speaker 4: to see a notion of drill, baby drill.
- 24:24Speaker 2: So okay, if you're eating out, you'd be pretty familiar
- 24:27Speaker 2: with surcharges. I mean, if you eat out on a
- 24:29Speaker 2: weekend at a restaurant, they'll typically charge you what ten
- 24:32Speaker 2: percent surcharge because it's a weekend. I guess they have
- 24:35Speaker 2: to pay penalty rates for staff. If it's a public holiday,
- 24:38Speaker 2: you're normally paying about fifteen percent surcharge.
- 24:41Speaker 1: I had not realized that if you go out with
- 24:44Speaker 1: a group of friends, say ten or more people.
- 24:47Speaker 2: As a group booking here in Sydney and now in Melbourne,
- 24:50Speaker 2: increasingly in other places.
- 24:51Speaker 1: They charge you a booking surcharge.
- 24:55Speaker 2: As I said, there's a number of restaurants in Sydney
- 24:57Speaker 2: that have already been doing this, but it's just started
- 24:59Speaker 2: happening in Melbourne, where if you've got a group of
- 25:02Speaker 2: ten or more they charge you a ten percent surcharge
- 25:05Speaker 2: on the total meal to pay for more staff in
- 25:10Speaker 2: the kitchen and on the floor, for the extra organization
- 25:13Speaker 2: that goes into joining tables together and making sure meals
- 25:16Speaker 2: all come out at the same time. I think this
- 25:20Speaker 2: is an absolute colm. There's no way I would agree
- 25:23Speaker 2: to pay ten percent on top of the meal just
- 25:26Speaker 2: because we bought more customers to a restaurant. They complain
- 25:31Speaker 2: they don't get enough custom. Now they're complaining we're doing
- 25:34Speaker 2: so much custom.
- 25:35Speaker 1: We need to charge you more. This is an absolute rot.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Don't you think it.
- 25:39Speaker 5: Does seem oder And you're notwithstanding the fact that it's
- 25:42Speaker 5: a pretty hard slog in hospitality these days, agreed.
- 25:46Speaker 6: I just don't get.
- 25:47Speaker 5: Why having more people in your restaurant is a bad thing.
- 25:50Speaker 5: I would have thought, you know, if you've got ten
- 25:52Speaker 5: people as opposed to do well, that means they're ordering
- 25:55Speaker 5: ten meals as opposed to two, so already spending more money.
- 25:58Speaker 5: They're probably more likely to d more grog because you know,
- 26:01Speaker 5: they've come along as a group, so they're probably if
- 26:03Speaker 5: someone's birthday or a party, some sort of celebration or something,
- 26:06Speaker 5: so the wine's flowing and then they have a few
- 26:08Speaker 5: and then they go, ah, bugger, it will get the
- 26:10Speaker 5: expensive bottle and whatever. I just would have thought it
- 26:12Speaker 5: would be good for business. And you know, if you
- 26:14Speaker 5: walk past a restaurant you see the place is full
- 26:16Speaker 5: and they've got a table of ten in there, you go, oh, gee,
- 26:18Speaker 5: that place must be right. I might go in there
- 26:20Speaker 5: and have a meal one day, et cetera, et cetera.
- 26:23Speaker 5: I just don't get why you would be penalized effectively
- 26:27Speaker 5: for having more people come into the restaurant. I mean,
- 26:30Speaker 5: whether you've got five tables of two or one table
- 26:33Speaker 5: of ten, you're still serving the same number of people,
- 26:36Speaker 5: aren't you.
- 26:36Speaker 3: I completely agree.
- 26:37Speaker 4: And I was having a look actually at the menu
- 26:39Speaker 4: of the restaurant that you had just mentioned, just out
- 26:42Speaker 4: of curiosity to see what, on average would a person
- 26:46Speaker 4: be paying. So they've got a chef's menu and they've
- 26:48Speaker 4: got a signature menu. So if you want the chef's menu,
- 26:51Speaker 4: it's one hundred and seventy five dollars per person. If
- 26:53Speaker 4: you want the signature menu, it's two hundred and twenty
- 26:56Speaker 4: five dollars per person. So say you've got a table
- 26:58Speaker 4: of ten of you and you're going for the more
- 27:00Speaker 4: expensive option two hundred and twenty five dollars ahead.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Then you add alcohol on top.
- 27:05Speaker 4: Of that, and you're getting one bottle after another because
- 27:07Speaker 4: you've got ten of you there, so there's multiple bottles,
- 27:10Speaker 4: and it may be maybe the most expensive you could
- 27:12Speaker 4: end up paying. I reckon upuods of five hundred dollars
- 27:15Speaker 4: per person, even it wouldn't put it part. I've been
- 27:18Speaker 4: to some expensive restaurants in Sydney. Well, you do end
- 27:20Speaker 4: up paying about five hundred dollars per person at the
- 27:23Speaker 4: end of the night, and I think five grand that's
- 27:26Speaker 4: a pretty good night out. That's it for the For
- 27:29Speaker 4: the owners, you'd be thinking, well, that's that is a
- 27:32Speaker 4: good deal. That's what we want out of a table.
- 27:35Speaker 4: That's a good amount of money. So why would you
- 27:38Speaker 4: want to add surcharges on top of that?
- 27:40Speaker 1: Is there a way around this?
- 27:41Speaker 2: Like if we're going to do a late debate dinner
- 27:44Speaker 2: with our producers and so and we take ten of
- 27:46Speaker 2: us out, do we.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Get Caleb to book a table of five?
- 27:48Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 27:49Speaker 2: I know, and then you book a table of five
- 27:50Speaker 2: and we are just close together.
- 27:52Speaker 4: A good idea. There could be ways to get around it.
- 27:55Speaker 4: And a lot of these places aren't cheap. Some of
- 27:57Speaker 4: the list includes places like rock Pool, for example. Those
- 28:00Speaker 4: steaks are very very expensive as it is. And don't
- 28:04Speaker 4: get me wrong, they're absolutely amazing.
- 28:06Speaker 3: They're very very good. It's very good quality.
- 28:09Speaker 4: But come on, people are spending money at your restaurant.
- 28:12Speaker 4: Don't penalize them any more than you have to.
- 28:15Speaker 5: Surely, I have to say that jameson a bit. Our
- 28:18Speaker 5: producer Mill was rolling her eyes when you said we
- 28:20Speaker 5: could wrestle up a team.
- 28:21Speaker 6: Of ten working on this show. You know she's pulling
- 28:25Speaker 6: the whole thing together.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Doesn't work ten of everyone with us.
- 28:31Speaker 5: While we're talking about food, So you go to a
- 28:34Speaker 5: restaurant you've got too many of you there.
- 28:35Speaker 6: They'll charge you a ten percent surcharge.
- 28:38Speaker 5: But what about if you get deported from Ireland and
- 28:41Speaker 5: they put you on a plane and they serve your food. Now,
- 28:44Speaker 5: airline food in general is just going downhill at a
- 28:47Speaker 5: rate of knots, even on a quantus domestic flat.
- 28:50Speaker 6: These days.
- 28:51Speaker 5: You used to get a hot meal if you flew
- 28:54Speaker 5: at lunchtime or in the evening, just as part of
- 28:56Speaker 5: your standard fee, and now you're lucky to get a
- 28:59Speaker 5: sandwich or even a snack. But if you happen to
- 29:02Speaker 5: be deported from Ireland as a group of twenty four.
- 29:06Speaker 2: Love the way you say if you happen to be deported, well,
- 29:08Speaker 2: you know, like as if people watching.
- 29:09Speaker 1: May well find themselves being deported.
- 29:11Speaker 6: Well, look, I don't know.
- 29:12Speaker 5: All I'm saying is that if you're an illegal Pakistani
- 29:15Speaker 5: in Ireland watching this program for that you.
- 29:18Speaker 6: Are going to be forewarned because twenty.
- 29:20Speaker 5: Four blokes who went through this process, by the way,
- 29:23Speaker 5: in Ireland, they offer you ten thousand euro to bugger
- 29:27Speaker 5: off of your own volition. That's sixteen thousand Australian dollars
- 29:31Speaker 5: before they even look at deporting you. So these are
- 29:33Speaker 5: twenty four men who were too stupid to take the
- 29:35Speaker 5: ten thousand euro and bugger off back to Pakistan. They
- 29:39Speaker 5: decided they'd wait forister government to come in and do
- 29:42Speaker 5: it for them.
- 29:42Speaker 6: So they'd load them all up onto a plane.
- 29:45Speaker 5: Now, this flight from Ireland to Pakistan, chartered flight with
- 29:49Speaker 5: twenty four men on it cost four hundred and seventy
- 29:53Speaker 5: three thousand Euro. That converts to seven hundred and seventy
- 29:57Speaker 5: thousand Australian dollars. And they were offered good food right
- 30:03Speaker 5: so per head this is thirty two grand in Australian
- 30:06Speaker 5: money twenty k euro, so you'd expect some decent food
- 30:09Speaker 5: for that. They were offered a full Irish breakfast.
- 30:13Speaker 6: But what would be wrong.
- 30:15Speaker 5: With a full Irish breakfast, you ask, Well, this is
- 30:18Speaker 5: in the UK Telegraph. Its is according to the flight's
- 30:22Speaker 5: human rights monitor, appointed by the Irish government. So the
- 30:25Speaker 5: government has appointed a human rights monitor to monitor a
- 30:29Speaker 5: flight of twenty four men who were in the country
- 30:30Speaker 5: illegally being sent back to Pakistan. They said the quality
- 30:34Speaker 5: of food was a low standard welcome to flying and
- 30:37Speaker 5: the serving of quote pork sausages as part of a
- 30:41Speaker 5: full Irish breakfast was inappropriate because of course Pakistan is
- 30:46Speaker 5: a Muslim majority country. I mean, these poor buggers they
- 30:50Speaker 5: were in Ireland illegally and then they had to go
- 30:54Speaker 5: through the indignation they had to deal with the human
- 30:58Speaker 5: rights abuse of being offered a pork sausage. Now, if
- 31:02Speaker 5: you didn't want the pork sausage on your full Irish breakfast,
- 31:07Speaker 5: wouldn't you just put it to one side and not
- 31:10Speaker 5: not eat it.
- 31:10Speaker 1: But you're saying they weren't like forced at gunpoint to
- 31:13Speaker 1: eat it.
- 31:13Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't have thought so.
- 31:14Speaker 5: I mean, the Human Rights Monitor didn't write that in
- 31:17Speaker 5: the report, so I'm going to assume they weren't forced
- 31:19Speaker 5: at gunpoint. But I mean, this is ridiculous, isn't it.
- 31:22Speaker 5: You paid thirty two grand ahead to send these people
- 31:25Speaker 5: back home, and the Human rights head Honchow tells you
- 31:28Speaker 5: you bag it up because you offered them a pork sausage.
- 31:30Speaker 3: Oh my goingness.
- 31:31Speaker 4: Seriously, when I first read this, I thought, wow, breaking news.
- 31:34Speaker 4: A full Irish breakfast served on a flight from Dublin,
- 31:37Speaker 4: I would have thought. I mean, if we were on
- 31:39Speaker 4: any of these sort of Middle Eastern character carriers, you
- 31:42Speaker 4: would be fed hellal food and you either take it
- 31:46Speaker 4: or you leave it.
- 31:47Speaker 3: And to your point, move the sausage to the side,
- 31:50Speaker 3: have the rest of it.
- 31:51Speaker 6: For goodness, to get the beans and the pudding and
- 31:53Speaker 6: all that.
- 31:54Speaker 3: You still get everything else.
- 31:55Speaker 4: I mean, a full Irish breakfast sounds absolutely delicious to me,
- 31:58Speaker 4: but it just goes to show this the entitlement that
- 32:02Speaker 4: is on display when you've got illegal migrants who are
- 32:06Speaker 4: cared for and respected more than everyday citizens of the
- 32:11Speaker 4: country in which they are legally migrated to. For goodness sake,
- 32:15Speaker 4: this is where we're at in society right now, and
- 32:19Speaker 4: I just I really despair for the UK in particular
- 32:22Speaker 4: at the moment, because they are in such a crisis
- 32:25Speaker 4: where taxpayers are having to fork out four hundred and
- 32:28Speaker 4: ten thousand pounds to suit these migrants.
- 32:34Speaker 5: Should note, this is the Republic of Ireland. It's not
- 32:37Speaker 5: Northern Ireland, so the UK isn't punting up the money.
- 32:40Speaker 5: It's Ireland itself. But you mentioned still, you mentioned the
- 32:43Speaker 5: UK though, because apparently the Prime Minister Sukiyatama is now
- 32:49Speaker 5: considering the provision of a full English breakfast with pork
- 32:52Speaker 5: sausages on deportation flats.
- 32:56Speaker 6: The return of the sashages. Yes, they will be which
- 33:01Speaker 6: they came with, the pork sausages, James.
- 33:03Speaker 2: Could I just say, don't these Pakistani gentlemen prove the
- 33:07Speaker 2: point that they should never have been allowed to stay
- 33:10Speaker 2: in Ireland by complaining about the food on the aircraft
- 33:14Speaker 2: as they get punted back to Pakistan.
- 33:16Speaker 1: You mentioned the word entitlement.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Could you imagine if they'd become citizens of Ireland the
- 33:20Speaker 2: sort of attitude, no gratitude, no thanks, no appreciating, just
- 33:24Speaker 2: whining and winging.
- 33:25Speaker 3: Just whining about their sausages.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Go back to where you came from. Enjoy Pakistan, Enjoy Pakistan.
- 33:31Speaker 3: Off you go, boys, back to Pakistan exactly.
- 33:34Speaker 4: All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is now time for
- 33:37Speaker 4: the latest installment of the Gruesome Twosome. Yes, I am
- 33:41Speaker 4: talking about Harry and Meghan. I know they are truly, truly,
- 33:46Speaker 4: truly gasping straws. Right now they're celebrating their eight year
- 33:52Speaker 4: wedding anniversary.
- 33:53Speaker 3: Congratulations, happy anniversary.
- 33:55Speaker 4: And Meghan of course has released these images unreleased images of.
- 33:59Speaker 3: The day eight years ago. There they are in love.
- 34:03Speaker 1: Wow.
- 34:04Speaker 4: And when we know that Meghan only does this sort
- 34:06Speaker 4: of thing when the brand's not looking too good and
- 34:09Speaker 4: they need some good publicity.
- 34:10Speaker 3: She just went to Switzerland this week to.
- 34:13Speaker 4: Talk about children in the digital world and the dangers
- 34:16Speaker 4: of that, off the back of their disastrous Australia tour
- 34:19Speaker 4: where she was involved in a cash for were scheme.
- 34:22Speaker 4: So look, things haven't been going as well for the
- 34:24Speaker 4: Duke and Duchess and naturally they need.
- 34:26Speaker 3: Some good publicity.
- 34:27Speaker 4: But really the highlight was Prince Harry's wedding gift. Now look,
- 34:32Speaker 4: please you be the judge. He has bought Meghan a
- 34:36Speaker 4: bronze penguin.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Here it is, Yeah, I love you.
- 34:49Speaker 4: Oh my god.
- 34:56Speaker 2: When Mama and Papa, when we.
- 35:01Speaker 4: When we got engaged, kind of party with all of
- 35:03Speaker 4: our friends and we said everyone, we were an audible
- 35:05Speaker 4: ononesie and we were penguins.
- 35:08Speaker 5: We were penguins because they're.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Together for la.
- 35:18Speaker 3: Has anyone got a spew bucket? Handy SIUs?
- 35:21Speaker 4: Is that not the most diabolical looking gift you've ever
- 35:23Speaker 4: seen in your life? That is hideous to me. That
- 35:26Speaker 4: is so ugly, A big bronze penguin. Where does one
- 35:29Speaker 4: put that in the house?
- 35:30Speaker 1: So stick it.
- 35:31Speaker 6: Up your clacker, I reckon.
- 35:32Speaker 3: Well, oh it's pretty big, isn't it. Oh?
- 35:37Speaker 5: God, Caleb deservedly.
- 35:40Speaker 4: So there you go, the latest installment of The Gruesome too,
- 35:43Speaker 4: and they just keep getting more gruesome.
- 35:45Speaker 2: So you're upset that they released some wedding photos on
- 35:49Speaker 2: their anniversary, No.
- 35:51Speaker 4: I'm just annoying that they've done it because they want privacy,
- 35:53Speaker 4: but they don't want privacy at the same time they
- 35:55Speaker 4: want atten gent.
- 35:57Speaker 3: Are you actually standing up for Megan and Harry?
- 35:59Speaker 2: I'm reluctant too, because last time I stood up for
- 36:01Speaker 2: Megan and Harry on this program, social media went mental,
- 36:04Speaker 2: with everyone saying I should be kicked off the show.
- 36:06Speaker 2: Such is the hate for these people. But that's my problem.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Do we really have to hate on them for ever?
- 36:11Speaker 2: Even on their wedding anniversary they can't put out some
- 36:14Speaker 2: nice wedding picks without ours sake?
- 36:15Speaker 1: See, they're grifters, just.
- 36:17Speaker 4: They are James. They want they are privacy.
- 36:19Speaker 2: They are grifters and they do want privacy, but it
- 36:21Speaker 2: is their wedding anniversary. You're allowed to release a few
- 36:23Speaker 2: wedding pictures without everybody jumping on their back and saying,
- 36:27Speaker 2: you know, see, this is an example of their what
- 36:30Speaker 2: they are nice.
- 36:31Speaker 6: It's the self indulgent exactly. Go and the kids. What
- 36:35Speaker 6: the hell was that laugh from Harry brother.
- 36:38Speaker 5: In the background, Buddy, hell mate up behind me.
- 36:42Speaker 1: It was kind of a nice family.
- 36:45Speaker 6: Here's the big bronze penguin.
- 36:47Speaker 2: We've never seen the faces of the kids, but it
- 36:49Speaker 2: was nice to hear kids laughing and having fun, and
- 36:52Speaker 2: they seem.
- 36:53Speaker 1: To have a happy house. We don't like them, but
- 36:55Speaker 1: why would we wish ill for them?
- 36:57Speaker 3: Well, they should have stayed Montecito and stop.
- 36:59Speaker 6: Talking anything to turn a dollar, I suppose.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Exactly, very quickly before we go to a break, if
- 37:05Speaker 2: we've got time to do this real quick. The Victorian
- 37:07Speaker 2: government spending a million dollars trialing thirty kilometer an hour
- 37:11Speaker 2: speed sections in four councils from Chapel Street in the
- 37:16Speaker 2: city to Phillip Island, sort of on the outskirts of Melbourne.
- 37:21Speaker 2: They're saying that this will potentially reduce fatalities on the
- 37:25Speaker 2: roads substantially. It'll substantially increase emissions on the road frustration
- 37:31Speaker 2: on the road. If the Victorian government's going to slow
- 37:33Speaker 2: down anything, it shouldn't be traffic, it should be government spending.
- 37:36Speaker 5: Geez, I hope you don't have to go thirty k
- 37:37Speaker 5: an hour all the way from Chapel Street to Phillip Island, because.
- 37:40Speaker 6: That'll be a hell of a slog.
- 37:42Speaker 5: Next to it'll be walking pace everywhere will just be
- 37:45Speaker 5: just ban the cars. Actually everyone has to ride a buck.
- 37:47Speaker 1: And someone walking in front of the car with a
- 37:49Speaker 1: red flat.
- 37:50Speaker 4: Good to see money that should be spent being spent
- 37:52Speaker 4: on crime being spent towards lowering speed limits. There you go.
- 37:55Speaker 1: All right, we're going to go to a break when
- 37:57Speaker 1: we come back.
- 37:57Speaker 2: We're talking earlier about federal and state branch is disagreeing. Well,
- 38:01Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Chris Min's is giving it to
- 38:03Speaker 2: the Prime Minister at the moment. That and more when
- 38:05Speaker 2: we look at the papers after this. Okay, let's take
- 38:15Speaker 2: a look at what's making headlines in tomorrow's papers. Start
- 38:18Speaker 2: with the Australian calib It's got a few good stories tomorrow.
- 38:21Speaker 5: Deed, the splash says men's input max pay. New South
- 38:25Speaker 5: Wales Premier Chris Mins has thrown a bomb into the
- 38:28Speaker 5: Albanesi government's post budget sales pitch by calling for quote
- 38:32Speaker 5: urgent action to reduce the tax burden on workers, including
- 38:35Speaker 5: the forty seven percent rate paid by those earning more
- 38:38Speaker 5: than one hundred and ninety thousand dollars. The rare intervention
- 38:41Speaker 5: by the labor premier highlights the growing pressure Jim Chalmers
- 38:44Speaker 5: faces over a budget that increases taxes by eighty billion
- 38:48Speaker 5: dollars on investors while only returning part of the proceeds
- 38:52Speaker 5: through a flat five dollars a week I should say
- 38:54Speaker 5: rebate for workers, as former Prime Minister Paul keating into
- 38:58Speaker 5: the debate with a strong defeat of the treasure's contentious
- 39:01Speaker 5: changes to capital gains tax. Some federal labor MPs privately
- 39:05Speaker 5: raised concerns over the budget sales pitch, with one labeling
- 39:08Speaker 5: it a quote shit show.
- 39:10Speaker 6: That's probably quite right.
- 39:12Speaker 5: It goes on in the story to talk about this
- 39:15Speaker 5: biff that Mins and Charmers are currently having. Mins said
- 39:21Speaker 5: that he was worried that those on one hundred and
- 39:23Speaker 5: ninety grand or more were spending half the week working
- 39:26Speaker 5: for the government because they're paying forty seven percent tax,
- 39:31Speaker 5: and Dr Chalmers has hit back and said that the
- 39:35Speaker 5: Premier doesn't understand.
- 39:36Speaker 6: The tax system.
- 39:38Speaker 5: This is quite an extraordinary little tetar te the two
- 39:41Speaker 5: have it.
- 39:42Speaker 4: It is, But you know what, I also think it's unsurprising,
- 39:45Speaker 4: to be honest, because Chris Mens is credit to him,
- 39:49Speaker 4: He's looking after business owners, entrepreneurs within his own state
- 39:54Speaker 4: and he can see what a disaster this budget is.
- 39:58Speaker 1: Is Chris Men's auditioning, Well, he might be.
- 40:02Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he distinguished himself in the way
- 40:05Speaker 2: he dealt with the Bondai massacre and a call for
- 40:08Speaker 2: a Royal commission. Now he's distinguishing himself in standing up
- 40:12Speaker 2: for Australians and advocating that they should pay less tax.
- 40:18Speaker 2: I can most people would prefer Chris Mins to Anthony
- 40:20Speaker 2: or the easiest prime minister. I'm trying to Is there
- 40:22Speaker 2: anyone in Canberra that you'd prefer to Chris Mins in
- 40:25Speaker 2: the Labor Party?
- 40:26Speaker 6: No?
- 40:26Speaker 5: No, And I can think of two people else whore
- 40:29Speaker 5: in the Labor Party that had do the job much better,
- 40:31Speaker 5: Chris Mins and Peter Malanowskis you.
- 40:32Speaker 1: Know and do you think either of those have got
- 40:35Speaker 1: their eye on Well?
- 40:36Speaker 5: Maley always says no, he's not interested, and to be honest,
- 40:40Speaker 5: he doesn't have two because you know, he could be
- 40:42Speaker 5: premier for forever as long as he wants down there basically.
- 40:45Speaker 5: But you then you do wonder after a while whether
- 40:47Speaker 5: that gets old hat and you go, well, can I
- 40:48Speaker 5: put my hat in the ring?
- 40:49Speaker 6: But who knows? Who knows?
- 40:51Speaker 3: Just wonder how Chrismins ended up in the Labor Party.
- 40:55Speaker 1: Well, you know, Jesus, we wonder how Malcolm turn Will
- 40:57Speaker 1: ended up in the LIB.
- 41:00Speaker 5: This solid labor right, you know, and most of the
- 41:02Speaker 5: labor right aren't bad blocks. It's when the labor left
- 41:05Speaker 5: get in charge you've got problems. Speaking of PM's vow
- 41:09Speaker 5: on town camps, Anthony Alberizi has flown to Alice Springs
- 41:13Speaker 5: to meet with the family of the five year old
- 41:15Speaker 5: girl allegedly abducted and murdered from a town camp, admitting
- 41:18Speaker 5: their quote clearly is a need to ensure living conditions
- 41:21Speaker 5: in remote communities and camps improve. The Prime Minister and
- 41:25Speaker 5: Indigenous Affairs Minister Melandery McCarthy met with the family of
- 41:30Speaker 5: Kumanjai little Baby. I mean, it is one thing to
- 41:33Speaker 5: say that the conditions in town camps need to improve.
- 41:37Speaker 5: I think we need to go further than that and
- 41:39Speaker 5: say the town camps need to be shut down. I mean,
- 41:42Speaker 5: there a disgrace and to really think that you can
- 41:45Speaker 5: improve the living conditions. You're not going to improve the
- 41:48Speaker 5: living conditions. They just need to go all together.
- 41:51Speaker 2: He went thirteen days after the tragic events.
- 41:56Speaker 1: That's okay. He was there for three hours, that's okay.
- 41:59Speaker 1: We don't expect him to stay there for weeks. But
- 42:01Speaker 1: he went there without a plan. That's the thing that
- 42:03Speaker 1: surprises me.
- 42:04Speaker 2: You would have thought if they really cared about this,
- 42:07Speaker 2: they would have for the last couple of weeks been
- 42:09Speaker 2: working on what do we do about this and had
- 42:12Speaker 2: some sort of announcement rather than a pat sort of
- 42:15Speaker 2: you know motherhood's statement, this is not good.
- 42:18Speaker 1: We must see change.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Well, it's not his first five Fix visit, is it.
- 42:22Speaker 4: A couple of years ago he did the exact same
- 42:24Speaker 4: thing during the right five Fox visits. Are not going
- 42:26Speaker 4: to do anything. Talking is not going to do anything.
- 42:28Speaker 4: You actually need action. But let's be honest, Labor have
- 42:30Speaker 4: been weak and weasel worded on this issue for many
- 42:33Speaker 4: years now, and they're more entrenched in ideology than actually
- 42:36Speaker 4: doing something about it.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Yep, let's go.
- 42:38Speaker 2: The front page of The Herald's sun Shock weight Gain
- 42:41Speaker 2: reads the headline Victoria's surgery weight list has ballooned by
- 42:45Speaker 2: more than four thousand in just three months, prompting warnings
- 42:49Speaker 2: of a return to COVID era levels, with the state
- 42:52Speaker 2: struggling health system set to be central to November's election campaign.
- 42:55Speaker 2: The most recent Cordly Victorian Agency for Health Information data
- 42:58Speaker 2: showed critical surgery waitlists had ballooned to more than sixty
- 43:01Speaker 2: eight thousand in the three months to March, staggering four
- 43:06Speaker 2: one hundred and three more than the previous quarter. The
- 43:09Speaker 2: article continues to talk about ambulance weight times. The goal
- 43:14Speaker 2: was to have in code one cases, which are the
- 43:16Speaker 2: most critical ambulances, arrived within fifteen minutes eighty five percent
- 43:21Speaker 2: of the time. They've only been able to achieve that
- 43:24Speaker 2: sixty six percent of the time, So failing on all
- 43:28Speaker 2: counts when it comes to the health system.
- 43:30Speaker 5: These are basic things like if you can't trust the
- 43:33Speaker 5: state government to get through the surgeries that need to
- 43:37Speaker 5: be done healthcare, how do you trust them to do
- 43:39Speaker 5: anything else?
- 43:40Speaker 4: Well, don't forget you sinto Allen's got bigger priorities like
- 43:43Speaker 4: lowering speed limits.
- 43:44Speaker 5: Well, that's right, and putting stuff on social media.
- 43:48Speaker 3: For making people want to like it exactly.
- 43:51Speaker 2: The other article on the front page of the Herald
- 43:52Speaker 2: Sun tomorrow, it's interesting twenty thousand dollars fire bomb fee.
- 43:57Speaker 2: Teen thugs are pocketing twenty grand for fire bombing venues
- 44:01Speaker 2: as Melbourne's war bars escalate, bar wars escalate, with a
- 44:05Speaker 2: court told one accused arsonist ordered his mother to collect
- 44:09Speaker 2: his bounty because he was in jail. Details of the
- 44:13Speaker 2: brazen demand recorded on prison phones were revealed in the
- 44:16Speaker 2: Children's Court, where magistrate flagged an explosion in cases of
- 44:19Speaker 2: criminal gangs recruiting Melbourne teens.
- 44:21Speaker 1: To do their dirty work.
- 44:24Speaker 2: So you've got kids fifteen and sixteen year olds being
- 44:27Speaker 2: contacted online. They haven't been able to catch the perpetrators
- 44:30Speaker 2: because they've disguised themselves quite well. But that's a worry
- 44:33Speaker 2: when you've got kids doing arson crime for twenty thousand.
- 44:38Speaker 6: Dollars grands on a bad payday, is it.
- 44:41Speaker 1: No fifteen years old?
- 44:42Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 44:43Speaker 4: Let's have a look now at the Mercury over in Tasmania.
- 44:47Speaker 4: AIRB and B fees is the headline to ease the
- 44:50Speaker 4: housing and homelessness christis in Hobart. Two counselors want to
- 44:54Speaker 4: double the current property rate for whole home short stay
- 44:58Speaker 4: accommodation properties. Emotion from the two councilors there on the
- 45:02Speaker 4: front page will be discussed at Monday night's Hobart City
- 45:05Speaker 4: Council meeting. I don't agree with this at all, to
- 45:09Speaker 4: be honest, what about genuine tourists who want to come
- 45:12Speaker 4: for a short stay? I don't think that's very very
- 45:14Speaker 4: fair to slog people. How about you try and solve
- 45:16Speaker 4: the crisis with supply before you slog every day people
- 45:20Speaker 4: who genuinely want to stay in short term accommodation.
- 45:23Speaker 5: Taxing property seems to be a very popular thing to
- 45:26Speaker 5: do at the moment, doesn't it. And on the front
- 45:28Speaker 5: of the advertiser tomorrow Lyddy loose ex magistrate Peter Liddy
- 45:32Speaker 5: will be released from prison into home detention until a
- 45:35Speaker 5: court determines if the monstrous pedophile can control his sexual desires. Lyddy,
- 45:40Speaker 5: who is there on the front page, will enter house
- 45:43Speaker 5: arrest in fifteen days with an electronic monitoring tag. So
- 45:47Speaker 5: you're a pedophile and an ex magistrate of all people.
- 45:52Speaker 5: It's a well known case in Adelaide. How do you
- 45:54Speaker 5: end up on home detention while they try to determine
- 45:58Speaker 5: whether or not.
- 45:59Speaker 6: You ought to be released?
- 46:00Speaker 5: It asks about, isn't it surely if they've not yet
- 46:04Speaker 5: worked out if your sexual proclivities and desires can be suppressed,
- 46:10Speaker 5: which I would argue for Peter Files they can't be.
- 46:13Speaker 6: And oh, we'll just let you stay at home while
- 46:15Speaker 6: we worked it out. Surely you should still be in prison.
- 46:18Speaker 3: What's the threshold? Well, exact like, how do you know.
- 46:21Speaker 1: That person.
- 46:24Speaker 2: Interviews with psychologists who will determine.
- 46:27Speaker 1: But it's all very subjective, isn't it?
- 46:29Speaker 3: Yes, exactly?
- 46:30Speaker 1: All right, we're going to go to a break.
- 46:31Speaker 2: When we come back, our wine aficionado Caleb is going
- 46:34Speaker 2: to tell us a story about an incredible wine heist
- 46:37Speaker 2: place in the US.
- 46:38Speaker 1: It's quite unbelievable. That's coming up next. All right.
- 46:44Speaker 2: No one on the Late Debate loves a drink more
- 46:46Speaker 2: than Caleb Bond, So Caleb take it away.
- 46:50Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, Well, this person apparently loved to drink so
- 46:52Speaker 5: much they thought they just steal mountains and mountains of
- 46:55Speaker 5: expensive wine. So let's go over to the United States
- 46:59Speaker 5: to tell this story where and it takes a bit
- 47:01Speaker 5: of telling it.
- 47:02Speaker 6: It should be said.
- 47:03Speaker 5: These two numpties who will show you here on the screen,
- 47:07Speaker 5: decided that they would don all sorts of disguise as wigs, coats,
- 47:11Speaker 5: two pays, glasses, all sorts of stuff. Right, They've gone
- 47:15Speaker 5: to this expensive restaurant and said that they were working
- 47:19Speaker 5: for a rich man who wanted to host a business
- 47:21Speaker 5: dinner there, but they wanted to check that the seller
- 47:24Speaker 5: was temperature controlled before they committed to having any dinner there.
- 47:29Speaker 5: So they've been allowed into the cellar and they've distracted
- 47:32Speaker 5: the wine director. Then they have shoved bottles with tens
- 47:36Speaker 5: of thousands of dollars into the coats and tried to
- 47:39Speaker 5: make off with them. But thankfully one of the waiters
- 47:44Speaker 5: noticed what was going on and alerted staff members. And
- 47:48Speaker 5: then the woman was tackled by the waiter while they
- 47:52Speaker 5: were trying to get into the getaway car. What a
- 47:56Speaker 5: bizarre chain of events has apparently been there, competed in
- 47:59Speaker 5: the US to an episode of Scooby Doo. In the
- 48:01Speaker 5: way they tried to pull it off, who would have thought, oh, yeah,
- 48:05Speaker 5: I know what will work is I'll pretend to be
- 48:08Speaker 5: someone else and working for someone else, and I'll get
- 48:10Speaker 5: into the cellar and I'll.
- 48:11Speaker 6: Just load up my coat. Who's going to notice that.
- 48:14Speaker 2: I've got a question, just really quick, because one of
- 48:15Speaker 2: these bottles was worth twenty four thousand dollars, right, but
- 48:18Speaker 2: I read that because it was taken out of the
- 48:21Speaker 2: temperature controlled cellar. Even though they got it back, it's
- 48:24Speaker 2: pretty much worse worthless.
- 48:25Speaker 5: Now, Well, yeah, it's probably true because they won't be
- 48:28Speaker 5: able to say that it's being kept that the wreck
- 48:30Speaker 5: was a temperature for all that time, so who knows that.
- 48:32Speaker 5: You know, it would have been in the jacket being
- 48:34Speaker 5: shaken up and all sorts of stuff, and that can
- 48:36Speaker 5: affect the quality of the wine.
- 48:38Speaker 6: So yeah, it would have flicked.
- 48:39Speaker 3: Affect get up is hilarious. The way they dressed themselves up.
- 48:42Speaker 3: That was so funny because when you look at their
- 48:44Speaker 3: mugshots and it looked very bright, the.
- 48:48Speaker 5: Coat and the Wigan stuff, it's like inspected, you know,
- 48:51Speaker 5: they as inspect the ganget or something.
- 48:54Speaker 1: It was a lot of a couple of wine, all right.
- 48:58Speaker 2: Staying in the United States, a couple of in Washington
- 49:01Speaker 2: bought a cyber truck. One of the features of a
- 49:04Speaker 2: cyber truck is it has wade mode, which means you
- 49:06Speaker 2: can drive it through rivers and creeks up to a
- 49:09Speaker 2: depth of eighty one centimeters. That's quite something. Well, this
- 49:13Speaker 2: guy and his cyber truck decided he needed to check
- 49:16Speaker 2: it out, so he just drove straight into a lake.
- 49:25Speaker 1: Sir, you can't work over there.
- 49:29Speaker 2: He actually got stuck there because before you use wade mode,
- 49:32Speaker 2: you have to give the car some time to lift
- 49:34Speaker 2: the suspension, adjust the pressure around the battery. It required
- 49:38Speaker 2: a crane to get him out. He was charged not
- 49:41Speaker 2: just with illegally entering a lake, but with not having
- 49:44Speaker 2: a valid boat license.
- 49:47Speaker 3: You can't make this stuff up. Seriously, this is extraordinary.
- 49:50Speaker 4: Now, look, we all know this nineteen ninety eight banger
- 49:53Speaker 4: by Share.
- 50:00Speaker 3: How can you.
- 50:01Speaker 6: Feel something, sir?
- 50:04Speaker 1: I really daring strong.
- 50:09Speaker 4: Well Cher can't believe how unlucky she is because she
- 50:12Speaker 4: actually co wrote one of the verses, would you believe?
- 50:14Speaker 4: But she never put her name to that verse, and
- 50:17Speaker 4: so it's now been revealed that she never got the
- 50:18Speaker 4: royalties for that song and it was a multi million.
- 50:21Speaker 1: BELLI bad mistake. That's it from us. Stick around. Coming
- 50:24Speaker 1: up is the reader Penny, So we'll see you tomorrow
- 50:26Speaker 1: night night,