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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Ask Pastor John podcast. You all
- 0:06Speaker 1: send us some really good Bible questions, and to ask
- 0:08Speaker 1: a really good Bible question, you have to send us
- 0:10Speaker 1: perplexing texts, and that's what you do with great frequency.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Thank you. I've said in the past that our most
- 0:17Speaker 1: asked about text in the entire Bible in our history
- 0:21Speaker 1: as a podcast is Romans nine twenty two. We talked
- 0:25Speaker 1: about that in ABJA seventeen twenty. Roman's nine twenty two
- 0:29Speaker 1: is a text just rife with questions. Well, the third
- 0:32Speaker 1: most asked about Bible text in our inboxes Tewod Corinthians
- 0:35Speaker 1: five to ten, a text about some form of final
- 0:38Speaker 1: judgment for believers that says we must all appear before
- 0:42Speaker 1: the judgment seat of Christ so that each one may
- 0:45Speaker 1: receive what is due for what he has done in
- 0:47Speaker 1: the body, whether good or evil. We're reading that in
- 0:50Speaker 1: our Bible reading tomorrow, and we know that rewards will
- 0:53Speaker 1: be unequally distributed in heaven. That's been well covered on
- 0:56Speaker 1: the podcast over the years, as you can see in
- 0:58Speaker 1: the APJ book pages three sixty three, three sixty four
- 1:02Speaker 1: that section. But Carolyn has another angle in mind to
- 1:06Speaker 1: this question about how rewards ebb and rise in an
- 1:10Speaker 1: angle we have not looked at yet. On the podcast
- 1:12Speaker 1: based on this text, Pastor John Hello Carolyn writes, based
- 1:15Speaker 1: on Tewo Corinthiens five to ten, can we lose rewards
- 1:18Speaker 1: in heaven that we previously accumulated in life? Like Let's
- 1:22Speaker 1: say I have a great year and serve the Lord joyfully,
- 1:25Speaker 1: but the next year I sin grievously, like sexual sin
- 1:29Speaker 1: for example, as I understand my Roman Catholic friends, those
- 1:33Speaker 1: past rewards would get washed away by the later sin.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Or more subtly, I've heard elderly people in my life
- 1:39Speaker 1: suggest something similar, not for sin, but in becoming an
- 1:43Speaker 1: intellectually incapacitated in later age and being unable to really
- 1:48Speaker 1: live a fully fruitful life for Christ, that the works
- 1:52Speaker 1: they did all their life would slowly ebb away. Would
- 1:57Speaker 1: the incapacities of later years or the sins of a
- 2:01Speaker 1: future year negate or cause to wane the rewards earned
- 2:07Speaker 1: from previous years.
- 2:09Speaker 2: My answer, and I'll try to show that it's biblical,
- 2:14Speaker 2: is no, the good works of a true Christian will
- 2:21Speaker 2: never be canceled out, not by anything. The good deeds
- 2:28Speaker 2: will always have their reward that God considered fitting when
- 2:35Speaker 2: we did them. So that's my thesis. Now there are
- 2:40Speaker 2: a couple of terms in what I just said, a
- 2:42Speaker 2: couple of critical, crucial terms that I need to clarify
- 2:47Speaker 2: because if you get them wrong, it will make sense.
- 2:50Speaker 2: True Christian, I said, true Christian. The works of a
- 2:55Speaker 2: true Christian will never be canceled out. Not a fake Christian,
- 2:58Speaker 2: not a hypocritical Christian. True Christians are born again. They're
- 3:03Speaker 2: elect before the foundation of the world. They are persevering
- 3:07Speaker 2: in faith to the end of their lives. It doesn't
- 3:11Speaker 2: mean that they have the When I say persevering it
- 3:14Speaker 2: to the end in faith, I don't mean they have
- 3:16Speaker 2: the same zeal for Jesus in every phase or season
- 3:21Speaker 2: of their life, not that they have the same strength
- 3:24Speaker 2: of faith in every season. I'm just saying they persevere
- 3:28Speaker 2: in genuine faith. To the true Christians. According to Romans
- 3:33Speaker 2: eight thirty, those of me Predestiny justified, and those of
- 3:38Speaker 2: me I mean, those of you Destiny called, and those
- 3:41Speaker 2: of me called He justified, and those of me justified
- 3:44Speaker 2: He glorified. Nobody falls out. Everybody perseveres to the end,
- 3:48Speaker 2: according to God's promise in Romans eight thirty and that means,
- 3:53Speaker 2: for example, that a person may go to church for
- 3:57Speaker 2: twenty or thirty years and look like a Christian, and
- 4:01Speaker 2: then that person may commit apostasy and totally reject Christ,
- 4:08Speaker 2: live all the rest of their fifty years in rebellion
- 4:11Speaker 2: against Christ, and perish, and according to one John two nineteen,
- 4:18Speaker 2: that person was never born of God. Because people who
- 4:22Speaker 2: are born of God, that is, who are truly Christian,
- 4:26Speaker 2: are kept by God from turning away and never coming back.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Jude one twenty four, one of the greatest doxologies, celebrates
- 4:36Speaker 2: this keeping power of God. Now that means that all
- 4:42Speaker 2: those presumed religious and good deeds during those twenty or
- 4:46Speaker 2: thirty years of hypocrisy were not viewed by God as
- 4:51Speaker 2: the kind of thing he rewards, even though people saw
- 4:54Speaker 2: them that way. Specifically, they were not works of faith
- 4:59Speaker 2: because there was no true faith, and the only thing
- 5:03Speaker 2: that gets rewarded in the Christian life is works of
- 5:06Speaker 2: faith because everything else is sin. According to Romans fourteen
- 5:10Speaker 2: twenty three, God doesn't reward sin, so there's no thought
- 5:15Speaker 2: of any rewards being canceled because that hypocrite was not
- 5:20Speaker 2: storing up any rewards in the first place. So that's
- 5:23Speaker 2: the first term true Christian that needs to be clarified
- 5:26Speaker 2: in my first statement. The other crucial term that I
- 5:31Speaker 2: used was the reward that God considered fitting when we
- 5:38Speaker 2: did the good deeds. He sees a good deed, he
- 5:42Speaker 2: sees it exactly for what it is, and he deems
- 5:45Speaker 2: it appropriate to reward. So God knows all our motives,
- 5:51Speaker 2: and our rewards won't simply be owing to an outward act,
- 5:55Speaker 2: but to the relationship between the outward act and the motivation,
- 5:59Speaker 2: and God sees it at all. We can't see it,
- 6:01Speaker 2: but God does. He knows exactly the quality of every
- 6:05Speaker 2: single deed that a Christian does. So Paul says in
- 6:09Speaker 2: First Corinthians four, verse five, do not pronounce judgment before
- 6:14Speaker 2: the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things
- 6:18Speaker 2: now hidden in darkness and disclose the purposes of the heart.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Then each one will receive his commendation from God. So
- 6:30Speaker 2: God knows the inward and outward quality of our deeds
- 6:36Speaker 2: way better than any human being does, and his assessments
- 6:41Speaker 2: of what should be rewarded is perfect. Those assessments are perfect,
- 6:48Speaker 2: and because they are perfect, they can never change. He
- 6:53Speaker 2: doesn't make any mistakes. He's like oops I shouldn't have
- 6:56Speaker 2: thought that one was going to be rewarded, but he does.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Let me give three more reasons why. I think it's
- 7:03Speaker 2: a mistake to say that a true Christian can lose
- 7:09Speaker 2: rewards in heaven which they would have had except for
- 7:14Speaker 2: some downturn in strength of their faith or dementia in
- 7:19Speaker 2: their old age. So here are my three reasons. First,
- 7:25Speaker 2: there are texts in the Bible that make promises that
- 7:30Speaker 2: are unqualified concerning this. For example, Matthew ten forty two,
- 7:36Speaker 2: whoever gives one of these little ones even a cup
- 7:39Speaker 2: of cold water, because he is a disciple, I say
- 7:44Speaker 2: to you, he will by no means lose his reward.
- 7:49Speaker 2: If he's in six' eight, says whatever good anyone does,
- 7:54Speaker 2: this he will receive back from The. Lord so and
- 8:00Speaker 2: so those are unqualified. Promises we better be careful lest
- 8:04Speaker 2: we Cancel god's promises by some kind of theology of reward.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Loss here's the second. Reason it is a matter Of
- 8:15Speaker 2: god's faithfulness and justice not to forget what he has
- 8:21Speaker 2: regarded as something to. Reward here's WHAT i Mean hebrews six.'
- 8:27Speaker 2: ten god is not unjust so as to forget your
- 8:34Speaker 2: work and the love that you have Shown in his
- 8:38Speaker 2: name in serving. The saints seems to me that. Clearly
- 8:43Speaker 2: promising as time, Goes forward god can change his mind.
- 8:47Speaker 2: On this god's not going to. FORGET that i think
- 8:51Speaker 2: one of the reasons we as we. Grow older i'm
- 8:54Speaker 2: thinking to, MYSELF here i think about this question. A
- 8:56Speaker 2: lot one of the reasons as we go older the
- 8:59Speaker 2: question becomes urgent whether we will receive rewards for the
- 9:03Speaker 2: deeds we did thirty, years ago LIKE when i was,
- 9:05Speaker 2: a pastor is because we feel the reality of our
- 9:10Speaker 2: present experience as our, true life even we feel it
- 9:15Speaker 2: as our. Only life because the life we lived thirty
- 9:19Speaker 2: years ago is so distant and almost all of its
- 9:25Speaker 2: details and feelings good, and bad. ARE gone, i mean
- 9:29Speaker 2: you may have ten memories from nineteen, seventy two but
- 9:35Speaker 2: we can't help but feel as THOUGH if i get,
- 9:38Speaker 2: any rewards it's just going to be, For TODAY like
- 9:41Speaker 2: i was a, jerk TODAY or i did something good
- 9:45Speaker 2: today is faithful TODAY our i was red Hot for
- 9:47Speaker 2: jesus today AND yesterday i. Was cool but what happened
- 9:51Speaker 2: forty years, ago good that's just so far gone in.
- 9:56Speaker 2: My memory but here's the. Crucial thing the life you lived, ten,
- 10:02Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty fifty years ago is as real and
- 10:07Speaker 2: present before the Face of god as though you were living.
- 10:12Speaker 2: It today it counts with him as much in his
- 10:17Speaker 2: mind for your rewards as what you are. Doing today it's,
- 10:23Speaker 2: that real it's that Present, to god and no sin
- 10:28Speaker 2: that you commit today if you are A, true Christian
- 10:34Speaker 2: changes god's assessment of what he regarded as a good
- 10:39Speaker 2: deed to be rewarded fifty. Years, ago, finally third and
- 10:45Speaker 2: this may be the most important thing for people to.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Think About and i'm thinking especially because the person who
- 10:53Speaker 2: asked this question referred To Her roman, catholic friends and
- 10:56Speaker 2: this may be where the. Stumbling happens the main reasons
- 11:01Speaker 2: people think that present defects in faith and zeal and
- 11:06Speaker 2: love and obedience can cancel out past virtuous acts is
- 11:13Speaker 2: because they think of rewards, as earned not. Freely given
- 11:20Speaker 2: they think of good deeds, as meritorious so good deeds
- 11:27Speaker 2: earn merit on the positive side of the ledger, of
- 11:31Speaker 2: life and bad deeds, diminish merit so that when the
- 11:37Speaker 2: merits and the demerits are, added up the de merits
- 11:41Speaker 2: in later life can cancel out some of the merits in.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Early life that's totally a wrong way. To Think why
- 11:51Speaker 2: why is it a wrong way? To think because not
- 11:54Speaker 2: only is our Conversion, to christ our, new birth, our
- 11:58Speaker 2: faith or repentance a gift of totally, free grace but
- 12:04Speaker 2: so are all our virtues and. Good deeds christians never
- 12:11Speaker 2: earn anything Good. From god everything good that they do
- 12:19Speaker 2: is a gift of Grace. From god what do you
- 12:23Speaker 2: have that you did? Not receive, Paul said and if you,
- 12:26Speaker 2: received it why do you boast as though it were not?
- 12:28Speaker 2: A Gift verse corinthians. Four seven so Listen. TO paul
- 12:33Speaker 2: i Planted a. Paulish watered god gave. The growth so
- 12:37Speaker 2: neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything
- 12:41Speaker 2: But only god who gives. The growth That's first, corinthians
- 12:44Speaker 2: three six. And seven by, the way just six, verses
- 12:47Speaker 2: later he's talking, About rewards so this is a context.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Of rewards he hasn't forgotten what he's. Talking about that
- 12:54Speaker 2: Planting that, paul did that Watering that, paula's did those
- 13:00Speaker 2: neighbors are going to be. Rewarded freely even though he said,
- 13:07Speaker 2: We're nothing god. Is everything god rewards his own gifts.
- 13:13Speaker 2: In us or here's what he says In one cristin's.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Fifteen ten by the Grace, OF god i AM what,
- 13:20Speaker 2: i am and his grace towards me was not. In
- 13:24Speaker 2: vain on, THE contrary i worked harder than any, of
- 13:29Speaker 2: them though it WAS not i but the Grace of
- 13:33Speaker 2: god that was. With Me so. Paul worked he worked works.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Of faith he Was trusting god's working in him, good
- 13:42Speaker 2: works and he will be rewarded for that. Hard work
- 13:48Speaker 2: but it will be as graciously given as was. His
- 13:53Speaker 2: conversion all the good Deeds that god approves and rewards
- 14:00Speaker 2: are works of faith and the fruit of. The spirit
- 14:05Speaker 2: so let's get the idea of merit for these good
- 14:09Speaker 2: deeds totally out of. Our minds if, we do then
- 14:14Speaker 2: we will be able to see more easily that the
- 14:18Speaker 2: weaknesses of our present life do Not diminish god's gracious
- 14:23Speaker 2: promise not to forget the good of the first. Sixty years.
- 14:29Speaker 1: No sin that you commit today if you are A,
- 14:32Speaker 1: true Christian changes god's assessment of what he regarded as
- 14:36Speaker 1: a good deed to be rewarded fifty. Years ago that
- 14:41Speaker 1: is profoundly hope giving The pastor john for showing Us
- 14:43Speaker 1: that god is just rewarding his own gifts in us
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