Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 477: Foundations - The Beginning of the Rut Grind
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, and now your host,
- 0:11Speaker 1: Tony Peterson. Hey, everyone, welcome to the wire to Hunt
- 0:16Speaker 1: Foundations podcast, which is brought to you by First Light.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Today's episode is all about staying in the deer hunting
- 0:22Speaker 1: game during the middle of November. Remember that kid in
- 0:38Speaker 1: high school who was a rock star in football or
- 0:40Speaker 1: basketball in like fifth grade, but never really grew much
- 0:44Speaker 1: beyond middle school, so eventually everyone passed him by peaking
- 0:48Speaker 1: too early As a problem in sports, but also in
- 0:50Speaker 1: deer hunting, it's easy to go all in on the
- 0:53Speaker 1: rut in the first week in November, but an almost
- 0:55Speaker 1: equally promising week is upon us now. But this is
- 0:59Speaker 1: also the time when you see a little transition happening,
- 1:01Speaker 1: and it's really the time to keep your head in
- 1:03Speaker 1: the game. This isn't as easy as it sounds, but
- 1:06Speaker 1: it is important. It's also the topic of this old show.
- 1:24Speaker 1: There's a strange sinking feeling that can creep into us
- 1:27Speaker 1: deer hunters about this time of the month. The days
- 1:30Speaker 1: leading up to November and the first week those suckers
- 1:34Speaker 1: were all promised any second it was going to happen,
- 1:37Speaker 1: and for a lot of lucky hunters it did, but
- 1:40Speaker 1: not you. If you're listening to this, probably and that sucks.
- 1:44Speaker 1: What sucks worse is that you can feel the old
- 1:46Speaker 1: clock ticking away, taunting you. How many more days do
- 1:50Speaker 1: you have left until lockdown sets in and the woods
- 1:53Speaker 1: go from crazy too empty? Maybe none, depending on where
- 1:56Speaker 1: you're listening to this. Now, it's not all dooming him.
- 2:00Speaker 1: That buck that checks up with his new lady friend
- 2:02Speaker 1: for a day, she'll eventually have enough a hymn and
- 2:05Speaker 1: he'll have to go back on the dear version of
- 2:07Speaker 1: Tinder to see if any other doors are ready to
- 2:09Speaker 1: swipe right. There's still plenty of rut to work with.
- 2:12Speaker 1: It's just going to be a little different from the
- 2:14Speaker 1: cruising and chase fest that you just had a few
- 2:17Speaker 1: days ago. But before we get into that, though, ask yourself,
- 2:22Speaker 1: why am I still sitting on an unfilled buck tag?
- 2:25Speaker 1: Have you had exciting hunts so far that just didn't
- 2:28Speaker 1: come together with a good shot opportunity for some reason,
- 2:31Speaker 1: or if it did, did you just blow it? If
- 2:33Speaker 1: you've been around plenty of deer, and if witnessed an
- 2:35Speaker 1: exciting amount of rut action, you're probably on the right
- 2:38Speaker 1: path still. The spots that produced a few days ago,
- 2:41Speaker 1: they probably still produced for the next week or so.
- 2:44Speaker 1: But if you've had a kind of a disappointing rod
- 2:46Speaker 1: hunt so far, then it might be time to re evaluate.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Why did you spend most of your time sitting on
- 2:52Speaker 1: a field edge over a buck decoy hoping to rattle
- 2:54Speaker 1: one in from the neighbor's property, Or did you ride
- 2:57Speaker 1: out all day sits in a stand you thought was
- 2:59Speaker 1: positioned over a good funnel, only to see a couple
- 3:01Speaker 1: of dinks? And does what happened to your plan? As
- 3:05Speaker 1: important as it is to develop a plan for the future,
- 3:07Speaker 1: reflecting on the failure of the past, even the very
- 3:10Speaker 1: very very recent past, is necessary, even if it's not
- 3:13Speaker 1: much fun. How many times did you get busted? How
- 3:17Speaker 1: many times did you walk in get a little sloppy
- 3:20Speaker 1: with the wind thinking the rut was gonna save you.
- 3:23Speaker 1: We've all been led to believe the rut is the
- 3:25Speaker 1: answer to all of our deer hunting problems, but it isn't.
- 3:29Speaker 1: It certainly helps, and it sure makes it fun to
- 3:30Speaker 1: sit in the woods, but it doesn't always make it easy.
- 3:34Speaker 1: If we don't do enough to take advantage of it,
- 3:36Speaker 1: the whole thing is usually a lost cause. Think about
- 3:39Speaker 1: what went wrong and what to do with the remaining
- 3:41Speaker 1: days of the rut that you can work with. This
- 3:44Speaker 1: is important because it is about to get a lot
- 3:47Speaker 1: more difficult if this week doesn't go your way, and
- 3:50Speaker 1: it will really get difficult if you keep writing a
- 3:53Speaker 1: dead program. Now you might be thinking, we've only got
- 3:56Speaker 1: twenty acres to work with, so I do have to
- 3:59Speaker 1: keep sitting in the same stands. That's the case for
- 4:01Speaker 1: some folks, But I'll kindly refer you to a pile
- 4:04Speaker 1: of earlier episodes where I begged and pleaded for you
- 4:07Speaker 1: to find a new spot or two. And I'll say
- 4:10Speaker 1: it again. We limit ourselves to ground because it's easy,
- 4:14Speaker 1: or it's all we think we need. But has this
- 4:18Speaker 1: week proven that to be true for you? If it hasn't,
- 4:21Speaker 1: when this deer hunt is in the rear view mirror,
- 4:24Speaker 1: start the hunt for a new spot for next year.
- 4:27Speaker 1: We'll get into that a lot in future episodes. Now,
- 4:31Speaker 1: you don't have to be limited to a small property
- 4:33Speaker 1: to ride a dead rut program either. The biggest mistake
- 4:37Speaker 1: many of us make, which I mentioned in last week's
- 4:39Speaker 1: episode is that we don't think we need to go
- 4:42Speaker 1: look for deer. We don't think we need to move
- 4:44Speaker 1: during the rut. I'd say, out of all the November
- 4:47Speaker 1: bucks I've killed, all but a handful died after I
- 4:50Speaker 1: made at least one move. Only a few died in
- 4:53Speaker 1: easy spots or spots where I decided it was worth
- 4:56Speaker 1: sitting for days and days and days and not moving.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Make sure that dead program reality doesn't happen. Think about
- 5:03Speaker 1: what you did that didn't work, and try also to
- 5:06Speaker 1: think about what is going on out there. There's still
- 5:09Speaker 1: plenty of chasing to be had as well as breeding.
- 5:12Speaker 1: That's just a given. The days of seeing six bucks
- 5:15Speaker 1: going nuts might be gone, but the days of putting
- 5:18Speaker 1: in serious effort on a perfect funnel to have one
- 5:21Speaker 1: good encounter, those are still alive and well. This is
- 5:24Speaker 1: my strategy for this time of year, and it always
- 5:27Speaker 1: involves the absolute most likely travel spots. Notice I didn't
- 5:31Speaker 1: say spot, burnout, wind weather, and just the vibes of
- 5:35Speaker 1: the woods. I'll dictate that one funnel today might be
- 5:38Speaker 1: the best choice, bal tomorrow it won't be. And whether
- 5:41Speaker 1: it's a pinch point of funnel a certain ridge, near
- 5:44Speaker 1: a dough betting area, or just a really well used
- 5:46Speaker 1: fence crossing somewhere. I try to think about everything that
- 5:49Speaker 1: will work in my favor and with the likelihood is
- 5:52Speaker 1: that it's worth it to devote an entire dark to
- 5:54Speaker 1: dark sit to that spot. You see, some spots are
- 5:59Speaker 1: still morning or evening spots. Some of those stand sites,
- 6:02Speaker 1: they're only going to be good for the first few
- 6:04Speaker 1: hours of the day or the last few hours of
- 6:06Speaker 1: the day, while others can produce at any second of
- 6:10Speaker 1: the day. Now, you could go sit a field edge,
- 6:12Speaker 1: or a food plot, or that brows line along a
- 6:14Speaker 1: fresh clear cut where the does like to go at
- 6:16Speaker 1: some point low light. All of these could produce, but
- 6:20Speaker 1: they might not be the best options for all days sits.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Now you could go sit where three ravines meet and
- 6:26Speaker 1: there's only one small land bridge for most of the
- 6:28Speaker 1: bucks to get from one side to the other. That's
- 6:30Speaker 1: an all day spot. A single sliver of timber that
- 6:34Speaker 1: connects to larger wood lots. That's another one. River systems,
- 6:38Speaker 1: which if you've listened to the earlier episodes of this podcast,
- 6:41Speaker 1: you know I'm a ginormous ban of them. They are
- 6:43Speaker 1: nature's funnels do you just like to travel along them
- 6:47Speaker 1: and they cross where the crossing is easiest or makes
- 6:50Speaker 1: the most sense for their intentions. Wherever you live, even
- 6:54Speaker 1: in swampy unbroken timber, you can find rut travel routes
- 6:58Speaker 1: that could and should produce all day long. In fact,
- 7:02Speaker 1: one of my favorite November strategies is to post up
- 7:05Speaker 1: in the middle of a figure eight of high ground
- 7:07Speaker 1: in swampy territory where neck down movement is going to
- 7:11Speaker 1: happen at some point. I'll explain this so I'm gonna
- 7:15Speaker 1: offer up a pro tip for all of you big
- 7:17Speaker 1: woods hunters out there in the northern of the southern
- 7:19Speaker 1: fringes of the White Tail Range, if you're hunting around
- 7:22Speaker 1: spots with wetlands, use your on X to look for
- 7:25Speaker 1: a low ground shaped like a figure eight. The middle
- 7:29Speaker 1: part of that eight that's high ground, or I should
- 7:32Speaker 1: say high your ground. Usually the circles they're the wetland.
- 7:37Speaker 1: There there are the swamps that the deer don't want
- 7:39Speaker 1: to cross. Now, rarely does nature offer up a perfect
- 7:43Speaker 1: looking pattern of low and high ground to form an eight,
- 7:46Speaker 1: but it often gets closer than you'd expect. I have
- 7:49Speaker 1: found these spots in several states, and they can be
- 7:51Speaker 1: dynamite locations for all day sits because they forced deer movement,
- 7:55Speaker 1: They allow for near perfect wind setups, and they often
- 8:00Speaker 1: offer the deer two types of habitat, which makes edges
- 8:03Speaker 1: which we know the dear like. In other words, with
- 8:06Speaker 1: low deer densities and a lot of cover. This is
- 8:08Speaker 1: a kind of spot that can really put you in
- 8:10Speaker 1: dear when most of the woods seem empty. And I'll
- 8:13Speaker 1: offer up another pro tip that has nothing to do
- 8:15Speaker 1: with dear. These figure eight spots and swamps phenomenal places
- 8:20Speaker 1: to bait bears because you can play the wind, you
- 8:22Speaker 1: can predict travel routes, and you're around wetlands and swamps,
- 8:26Speaker 1: so you know you're in a place where bears live.
- 8:27Speaker 1: If you ever have a chance to do a d
- 8:29Speaker 1: I Y baited bear hunt, those spots can be money.
- 8:33Speaker 1: All right. Back to the thinking about developing a milk
- 8:36Speaker 1: run of spots that forced deer movement. Whether you've got
- 8:40Speaker 1: one or ten, ask yourself, what does the wind do
- 8:43Speaker 1: in these spots? You see, we often think about wind
- 8:47Speaker 1: only in the context of not getting busted. This is good,
- 8:50Speaker 1: it's white tail one on one stuff, but it's good,
- 8:53Speaker 1: but it really sells the dear short sells the wind.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Short bucks traveling during the rut are living off of
- 9:00Speaker 1: their noses. They are efficient ground covering machines that only
- 9:04Speaker 1: appear to be randomly traversing the countryside. This isn't random.
- 9:08Speaker 1: They aren't random. They almost always travel with the wind
- 9:12Speaker 1: in such a way that it allows them to scent
- 9:14Speaker 1: check specific areas while using their eyes to look ahead
- 9:17Speaker 1: for dose and danger. To frame this up, the wind
- 9:21Speaker 1: might be perfect for you in a spot you want
- 9:23Speaker 1: to hunt, but what is it doing for the bucks?
- 9:27Speaker 1: Can they use it to scent check a certain flat
- 9:29Speaker 1: or overgrown homestead for dose? If they can, can you
- 9:32Speaker 1: hunt there in a way where you won't get busted.
- 9:35Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons that hunting bluffy or
- 9:37Speaker 1: hilly terrain is generally easier than flat ground. I say generally,
- 9:41Speaker 1: because there's a lot of variables out there, folks. When
- 9:44Speaker 1: you're in the hills, a buck can have a great
- 9:47Speaker 1: wind for safety or finding dose or both, while you
- 9:50Speaker 1: can have nearly as great of a wind for your
- 9:53Speaker 1: ridge top setup that won't allow him to smell you
- 9:56Speaker 1: in a flat swamp or in just flatter timber, the
- 10:00Speaker 1: options for them to get behind you or use the
- 10:02Speaker 1: wind in a way that you simply can't. It's much greater.
- 10:05Speaker 1: This requires more thought and more planning, and is one
- 10:07Speaker 1: of the reasons why it's often more challenging. Now there
- 10:11Speaker 1: are some spots where this really doesn't matter. A really
- 10:14Speaker 1: great pinch point, like those swampy figure eights I just mentioned,
- 10:18Speaker 1: a force movement no matter what the wind is doing.
- 10:20Speaker 1: As long as the bucks are likely to want to
- 10:22Speaker 1: get from point A to B, those routes are the
- 10:26Speaker 1: ones they have to take. These are the best. They're
- 10:29Speaker 1: my favorite spots, and they can be super productive oftentimes
- 10:33Speaker 1: a non swampy ground. They consist of a small patch
- 10:36Speaker 1: of timber connected to a larger track, or two tracks
- 10:40Speaker 1: of timber, i should say. And while bucks might pull
- 10:42Speaker 1: a crazy move on you and sprint across a wide
- 10:44Speaker 1: open field to get from one side of the other,
- 10:46Speaker 1: most will stick to the cover fairly well, especially if
- 10:50Speaker 1: you're hunting pressure. Dear, they are even more likely to
- 10:53Speaker 1: do this than they were a week ago as the
- 10:56Speaker 1: rut rages through and the hunting pressure gets to them.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Because don't forget, even though the ruts awesome and it's
- 11:01Speaker 1: burning really hot. Everybody knows that, and your competitions out
- 11:05Speaker 1: there sitting harassing those deer as well. So you've got
- 11:09Speaker 1: to really think through your setups because honestly, time is
- 11:13Speaker 1: kind of running out for a lot of hunters. I
- 11:14Speaker 1: know it's different if your way down self, but in
- 11:16Speaker 1: much of the White Tail territory clock is ticking. You
- 11:20Speaker 1: don't want to go to a default stand right now
- 11:23Speaker 1: simply because you think the rut will save you. This
- 11:25Speaker 1: is a time when you can still have a crazy,
- 11:27Speaker 1: action packed hunt, but can also sit all day and
- 11:30Speaker 1: not see a deer that last one. It's a real
- 11:34Speaker 1: kick to the delegates, but it happens, and when it does,
- 11:38Speaker 1: you'll find out what kind of a rut hunter you
- 11:39Speaker 1: really are the next time your alarm goes off. Despite
- 11:42Speaker 1: the fact that the rut is supposed to be awesome,
- 11:44Speaker 1: it can be a real grind. This goes for all hunters,
- 11:48Speaker 1: but it's nearly a given. If you're hunting pressure ground
- 11:51Speaker 1: or low density terrain big woods, rut hunting can be
- 11:55Speaker 1: a mental challenge. And I don't care if that happens
- 11:58Speaker 1: in Michigan's up or somewhere down in Louisiana in a
- 12:01Speaker 1: month or two, when those Southern bucks are getting randy.
- 12:04Speaker 1: It can even happen in great states like Iowa, where
- 12:07Speaker 1: there are supposed to be booners hiding in every wood lot.
- 12:09Speaker 1: There aren't, of course, and there are just days and
- 12:12Speaker 1: scenarios that don't work for you very well when they're
- 12:14Speaker 1: supposed to. This is one. A midday mover just might
- 12:18Speaker 1: save your butt, and you had better be there to
- 12:21Speaker 1: intercept him. I had one of these experiences the second
- 12:24Speaker 1: time I Drew and Iowa tag. My hunt was time
- 12:27Speaker 1: from like I think November six through the twelfth and
- 12:30Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. The first few days were a bust,
- 12:33Speaker 1: likely due to hot weather and a lot more hunting
- 12:35Speaker 1: pressure than my hunting partner and I anticipated. On the
- 12:38Speaker 1: farm that we were hunting with nothing to go on,
- 12:42Speaker 1: he and I decided we better drop down into a
- 12:44Speaker 1: valley with a small stream in it, figuring that was
- 12:46Speaker 1: where the best cover was and the least likely chance
- 12:49Speaker 1: to run into other bow hunters. We figured they would
- 12:52Speaker 1: stay on top on the fields. The first morning, I
- 12:55Speaker 1: posted up in a spot where a steep creek bank
- 12:58Speaker 1: met the hillside. This forced deer to either go up
- 13:01Speaker 1: over the bank or drop down and cross. I was
- 13:04Speaker 1: hoping they'd be adverse to getting their feet wet and
- 13:06Speaker 1: they would come up on my side. As the woods
- 13:09Speaker 1: woke up, a small six pointer started chasing a dough
- 13:11Speaker 1: all through the valley. They ran up and downstream, they
- 13:15Speaker 1: ran up the sides of the bluffs. They made a
- 13:17Speaker 1: ton of noise. They couldn't have made more noise if
- 13:19Speaker 1: they tried, and I felt at any second they'd call
- 13:23Speaker 1: him a big buck, but they didn't. Eventually they ran off,
- 13:26Speaker 1: and that scrapper lost his V card to that dough,
- 13:29Speaker 1: right in front of my hunting partner. As the morning
- 13:31Speaker 1: started to give away to the midday, it got warmer
- 13:35Speaker 1: and more still, and started to feel way less likely
- 13:38Speaker 1: that a deer was going to come in for Iowa.
- 13:41Speaker 1: It was a huge disappointment until I randomly looked up
- 13:44Speaker 1: and just down the creek from me, I saw rack
- 13:46Speaker 1: bobbing my way. When he got to twenty yards, he
- 13:49Speaker 1: busted me drawing, but it was too late. The buck,
- 13:52Speaker 1: one of my biggest ever even to this day, piled
- 13:55Speaker 1: up fifty yards away and made me realize how much
- 13:57Speaker 1: I had been considering heading in to take a nap,
- 14:00Speaker 1: and how little I had actually been paying attention. It's
- 14:03Speaker 1: one thing to believe you'll be on your a game
- 14:05Speaker 1: throughout the entire rut. It's another to wake up for
- 14:08Speaker 1: days in a row and then stay sharp on stand
- 14:12Speaker 1: when the action is just gone. This is one of
- 14:15Speaker 1: the things that separates the deer hunters from the dear killers. Now,
- 14:19Speaker 1: everyone in either category believes they are die hard and
- 14:22Speaker 1: we'll get up every morning and hunt every chance possible.
- 14:26Speaker 1: But deer hunters often don't do that. Dear killers do.
- 14:31Speaker 1: They keep going, and they keep hunting even when they
- 14:34Speaker 1: are tired and ready to quit, even when they're coming
- 14:37Speaker 1: off two or three days of really really dead action.
- 14:41Speaker 1: They do this because they know it's worth it to
- 14:43Speaker 1: be there in a spot they really believe in. It's
- 14:47Speaker 1: also worth it to not give the lockdown much credit. Now.
- 14:51Speaker 1: I know when bocks hole up with the doze it
- 14:54Speaker 1: can get pretty slow, but I always look at it
- 14:56Speaker 1: like fishing. There are conditions where anglers will swear the
- 14:59Speaker 1: walleye or the small mouth or the muskies or whatever
- 15:02Speaker 1: they're just not biting. Sure, there might be a half
- 15:06Speaker 1: day or maybe a full day where they just aren't
- 15:08Speaker 1: too ambitious, but not a week. They have to eat,
- 15:12Speaker 1: and they will eat. You just have to figure out when, where,
- 15:16Speaker 1: and on what they will nom nomb away on with deer.
- 15:20Speaker 1: During mid November, they're gonna rut. They have to, and
- 15:24Speaker 1: that means that even though the experts are going to
- 15:27Speaker 1: tell you there will be days with no activity, those
- 15:29Speaker 1: bucks are still out there doing their thing, even in
- 15:32Speaker 1: low density areas. If half of your bucks are locked
- 15:35Speaker 1: up by the end of this week, that leaves at
- 15:38Speaker 1: least one or two in your area, at least one
- 15:40Speaker 1: or two still looking on good dear ground. That might
- 15:45Speaker 1: mean six or seven bucks in your section are still
- 15:47Speaker 1: out or more and they're covering ground and putting themselves
- 15:49Speaker 1: in a position to be shot, even if only one
- 15:52Speaker 1: or two is actually the size that you're looking for.
- 15:55Speaker 1: All I'm saying here is it can start to really
- 15:58Speaker 1: feel hopeless, but it's not. Stay out there, keep hunting
- 16:01Speaker 1: if you have the chance. That's all I'm saying. This
- 16:05Speaker 1: is important, but only if you take this and keep
- 16:09Speaker 1: grinding it out. And even as I say that, I
- 16:12Speaker 1: cringe a little. The hunting industry has pushed this blood,
- 16:16Speaker 1: sweat and tears mentality on us as if we're storming
- 16:18Speaker 1: the beach at Normandy or one lab experiment away from
- 16:21Speaker 1: carrying cancer and children. We're not. We're just hunting deer.
- 16:26Speaker 1: So to be successful this week, we often just need
- 16:29Speaker 1: to get out of our own way and realize that
- 16:31Speaker 1: even a slow day in the woods with low odds
- 16:34Speaker 1: is a hell of a lot better than most of
- 16:36Speaker 1: the other stuff we could be doing. After all, you
- 16:38Speaker 1: get to scroll through Instagram and check out how narcissistic
- 16:41Speaker 1: your buddies are with their NonStop selfies. Get to drink
- 16:44Speaker 1: some coffee, maybe read a book, watch nature do its thing.
- 16:48Speaker 1: That's not a punishment, my friends, it's a gift, and
- 16:51Speaker 1: it only gets better when you have those glimpses of
- 16:54Speaker 1: action or those moments in the woods that make an
- 16:56Speaker 1: entire season. There's still time for those, my friends. Decide
- 17:00Speaker 1: if you need to make a real move right now
- 17:03Speaker 1: or if your previous hunt's portends solid action for the
- 17:05Speaker 1: remainder of mid November. Factor in the wind and how
- 17:09Speaker 1: it works for you, and how it will work for
- 17:10Speaker 1: the buck who wants to sniff some butts. Put in
- 17:14Speaker 1: the time you have to put in in spots that
- 17:16Speaker 1: make the most sense. For what should be happening with
- 17:19Speaker 1: the deer right now. Forget the locked down, forget the
- 17:23Speaker 1: horror stories about dead rots or bad timing or rots whatever.
- 17:28Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about that but to keep hunting.
- 17:31Speaker 1: And remember if it seems hopeless, it's not. There's time
- 17:35Speaker 1: left for great hunting. And really we're only starting to
- 17:38Speaker 1: get into the land of hopelessness as a white tail hunter.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Believe me, it's gonna get a hell of a lot worse. Now.
- 17:43Speaker 1: We won't get there next week yet, but we will
- 17:44Speaker 1: get a little closer. We also get the chance to
- 17:47Speaker 1: bring out the boomsticks and get revenge on all the
- 17:49Speaker 1: deer we try to kill with archery tackle but couldn't
- 17:51Speaker 1: because they stayed out of range. That's the topic of
- 17:54Speaker 1: next week's episode, so make sure you give it a listen.
- 17:59Speaker 1: That's it for to show my friends, I'm Tony Peterson
- 18:01Speaker 1: and this has been the Wire to Hunt Foundations podcast.
- 18:04Speaker 1: If you're looking for more white tail advice, head on
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