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The One About Fertility, Facelifts & the Real Housewives’ Closets with Gigi Gorgeous · Untraditionally Lala

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Speaker 1: Hello, Gorgeous. It is Lala.
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Speaker 2: I can't welcome back to the give Them Lalla podcast.
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Speaker 2: Me saying hello gorgeous has a whole new meaning today
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Speaker 2: because I have Gigi Gorgeous on the podcast.
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Speaker 3: Hello, hey, hey, oh my god, I'm so excited to
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Speaker 3: be here. What a level up. We were just saying
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Speaker 3: before we started recording, like you kill it, like this
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Speaker 3: looks so great.
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Speaker 2: So JIEJZ.
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Speaker 1: The last time I had you, where were.
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Speaker 3: We We were in what I said was a kitchen.
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Speaker 3: I thought we were in a kitchen. You had just
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Speaker 3: had ocean yep, recently, right, Yes, never met the child,
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Speaker 3: but I knew that it was in the other room.
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Speaker 3: I heard the crying.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard it.
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, should I ask her
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Speaker 3: like is this appropriate? But no, we were in a
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Speaker 3: kitchen and it was like very like just stuff everywhere.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we're doing the damn thing.
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Speaker 2: I was like, we're like here, we record right here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, okay, so didn't need to clam no
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Speaker 3: cameras necessary. Got it, and now look at us. Light's
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Speaker 3: camera action is are Howard Stern kent.
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Speaker 2: Usually I'll have people come in and sit on the
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Speaker 2: couch as my guess, and they're like, oh, it's like
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Speaker 2: a casting couch, and I'm like, a legitimate one, A
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Speaker 2: legitimate one.
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Speaker 3: Hello. So anybody that's watching at home or whatever, this
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Speaker 3: is giving very much. What's watch what happens live? See
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Speaker 3: how it's so little? Yeah, it gives that, Like if
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Speaker 3: people were on the floor and the couch was filled,
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Speaker 3: it would give that.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, do we have a live audience every
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Speaker 2: time we record?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Andy.
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Speaker 2: Cohen, you better watch your bag. I'm coming for your job.
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Speaker 2: We are moving from New York City to Culver.
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Speaker 3: City, Culver CC, baby.
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Speaker 1: So before we get it, pop in.
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Speaker 2: I have these pillows that I was obsessed with when
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Speaker 2: I first moved into my new home. Right they're dad
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Speaker 2: and they started getting like knotted up, like the feathers
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Speaker 2: would come together and just become like giant balls the feathers.
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Speaker 2: So I went to Bloomingdale's and shout out to Bloomingdales
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Speaker 2: right now at Century City Mall because they first asked,
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Speaker 2: were you affected by the fire, and I obviously said, no,
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Speaker 2: are these pillows for someone affected by the fire. I
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Speaker 2: think they were giving out whatever they could discounts or
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Speaker 2: anything for anybody who was affected by the fires in La.
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Speaker 2: So I really loved that, but it got me to thinking,
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Speaker 2: because I'm going to my bed is my sanctuary. So
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Speaker 2: I like Fritta sheets, and I didn't know that Frette
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Speaker 2: makes pillows, and I knew you were going to be
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Speaker 2: on the pod, and you look well rested at all times.
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Speaker 1: I have to know.
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Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite sheet brand or pillow brand?
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Speaker 3: I wish I did because that's very bougie. Okay, but
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Speaker 3: I do not. I can sleep anywhere, oh really, yes, yes,
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Speaker 3: I could sleep on a couch my head. I'm a
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Speaker 3: two pillow girl sleeper. Okay, I need it like elevated.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, you don't have neck issues?
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Speaker 3: No, I think I would have them if I was
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Speaker 3: on a one pillow like. I need it elevated so
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Speaker 3: my spine is aligned. You love it? And I like
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Speaker 3: the pillow in between my knees. Yes, so then the
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Speaker 3: bones don't touch.
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Speaker 1: Then I don't like my bones touching either me neither.
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Speaker 3: So I need it like a like basically a pregnancy pillow.
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Speaker 4: How many pillows do you need altogether?
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Speaker 3: Oh? Ideally? Okay, so two for my head and my neck,
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Speaker 3: one long one and if they're short too for the
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Speaker 3: like to hug and then you know, cradle binnize and
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Speaker 3: then maybe one for the back.
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Speaker 2: And are you.
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Speaker 1: A sexy sleeper?
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Speaker 2: Are you in like sweatpants, tasteful of oil?
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Speaker 3: Naked? Naked? Naked naked? Glazed doughnut? Always I run so hot, okay,
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Speaker 3: and especially if I have like hair extensions in It's
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Speaker 3: like bun up on the top of my head, nothing
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Speaker 3: going on. And if I have any clothes on, it's
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Speaker 3: like get them off me. I like radiate heat.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Is NAT's responsible for buying the bedding, then I'm
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Speaker 2: so shocked. You don't know what type of sheets.
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Speaker 3: I really sleep on. I don't care, No, I just
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Speaker 3: want it cold.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in I'm in charge with the thermostat.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what do you sleep at? Sixty eight?
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Speaker 3: Sixty seven?
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Speaker 4: Sixty six?
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Speaker 3: Sixty six is great, it's like it's seventy three. I'm like,
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Speaker 3: we can't, so we just can't.
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Speaker 2: That I would be sweating.
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Speaker 3: Do you run hot?
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Speaker 1: I'm a solid sixty nine er sixty.
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Speaker 3: Nine Okay, that's that's that's doable. That's doable. But it's
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Speaker 3: a little hot. Wow, yea with a duvet and you, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: you're really getting into it.
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Speaker 4: I could even go sixty four sixty five.
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Speaker 2: I don't we I would call it my pod because
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Speaker 2: of course you.
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Speaker 4: Know no one.
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Speaker 2: So this is my brother gig.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Oh it's fine.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, Oh no, it's great.
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Speaker 2: It's great. I love that you.
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Speaker 3: Everyone was laughing. By the way, for everyone listening, I
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Speaker 3: did not know that.
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Speaker 2: When she walked in, she was like, what's your name?
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Speaker 2: Easton said Easton. She was like, oh, like the fires.
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Speaker 2: He was like, no, it's eaten. And then she immediately
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Speaker 2: looks still confused. We're like, how do we break this down?
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Speaker 2: Where does the s go?
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Speaker 3: We are making headway.
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Speaker 4: We're making friends. That's what we're doing.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I have a house full of just family, my mother,
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Speaker 2: my two children, Easton, and.
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Speaker 4: Then another roommate, my friend.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but I know that on your social media you
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Speaker 2: always have a jam packed house too.
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Speaker 3: I do so. Yeah, Nats and I went through a
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Speaker 3: bunch of people that we used to live with. It
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Speaker 3: was kind of like a like a sorority or fraternity
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Speaker 3: or whatever. I never went to college.
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Speaker 2: I went, but they're in great company.
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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't like I was enrolled, didn't go,
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Speaker 3: didn't attend, never even got like my class like card
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Speaker 3: or whatever it's called. Yeah, so we yeah, we love
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Speaker 3: just like company and bull and friends and stuff. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: we've been together for so long. So yeah, there's been
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Speaker 3: friends who have moved in, moved out. We're still in
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Speaker 3: touch with people who we aren't.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, evolution of life.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we have space. That's why I feel like
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Speaker 3: it's like and I'm just very open arms, like what's
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Speaker 3: yours is mine? Totally kind of vibe.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're still in the same area that you
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Speaker 2: were in. So do you right now have people living
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Speaker 2: with you or is it just you and the hubs?
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Speaker 3: It's me and the hubs and our trainer and our
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Speaker 3: three boys aka kittens. Oh yeah, my my babies right now.
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Speaker 3: I want a fourth.
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Speaker 2: But that's a lot. That's a lot to take on
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Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, but at least, say, like shit in
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Speaker 2: a box. You don't have to potty train to you.
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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, I guess we
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Speaker 3: have to change it once in a while, but it's
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Speaker 3: really not that drama.
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Speaker 2: No, And you can also cats are the types of
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Speaker 2: fur babies that you can literally just like leave out
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Speaker 2: the food and the water and be like I'm just
6:54
Speaker 2: going to pop into Palm Springs for a couple of days.
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Speaker 2: Someone can stop by, like no one needs a walk exactly.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was just gonna say the walk
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Speaker 3: thing that is so drama. Because I had a dog
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Speaker 3: when I lived in Hollywood, right. She was a Yorkshire
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Speaker 3: Terrier Okay, like probably I don't know, four or five
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Speaker 3: pounds maybe, like a tiny little girl named Herbella. And
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Speaker 3: I lived in Hollywood, so I was scared, and I
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Speaker 3: was I lived alone, so I was scared to like
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Speaker 3: go out and walk her. So I never gave her walks.
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Speaker 3: I never took her outside. She was just in my
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Speaker 3: two bedroom apartment, yeah Hollywood. So I felt so bad,
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Speaker 3: so I ended up giving her away. But like I've
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Speaker 3: always been such like a gregarious person where I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 3: just like obsessed with just you know, having fun and
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Speaker 3: living like you know. So I was like, she needs
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Speaker 3: to feel that too.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 3: So cats like in our house now they feel that,
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Speaker 3: and I kind of treat them like dogs, so they
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Speaker 3: are very social and they're very fun. But yeah, a
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Speaker 3: dog life was not for me.
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Speaker 2: I totally get it. It is a lot of work. And
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Speaker 2: I feel like having a dog is like having a
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Speaker 2: newborn baby forever, because it's not like they're ever self sufficient.
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Speaker 2: You constantly have to take care of them. So I
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Speaker 2: totally get it. You and Nats have been together for
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Speaker 2: how long?
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Speaker 3: Now? Oh god, I'm so bud of a time because
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Speaker 3: I mean nine years, eight years? Eight years?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, eight years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what I did last week, just.
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Speaker 4: So work clear. No, I love that after three years,
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Speaker 4: it just all they're all.
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Speaker 3: The Yeah, I'm like, get my photo. I'm April twentieth
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Speaker 3: Taurus aries cusp okay for twenty biggie.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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Speaker 3: I don't smoke weed.
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Speaker 2: I love I wish I did, I wish I did?
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you would be as a high person.
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Speaker 3: I used to smoke a lot in high school.
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Speaker 2: And what were you like? Chill?
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Speaker 1: Paranoid?
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Speaker 3: Never paranoid? Now I used to be I yeah, I
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Speaker 3: used to smoke a lot.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I love it, So did Easton. I read that
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Speaker 2: you and that's we're on a fertility journey or you're
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Speaker 2: still you're still on it.
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Speaker 3: Well I guess technically we're still on it. Yeah, but
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Speaker 3: we went through years of trying to do the shots
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Speaker 3: for him, the you know, samples for me and just
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Speaker 3: all of that. But you know, I was on hormones
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Speaker 3: for like ten years.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: I gave a sample, so they were like, oh, there's
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Speaker 3: like no viable sperm okay in this sample. So I
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Speaker 3: was like, oh, gog, like I can't have biological children.
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Speaker 3: And you always hear like women should freeze their eggs
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Speaker 3: before a certain age, and then I found out that
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Speaker 3: you should freeze your sperm before you you know, if
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Speaker 3: you can if you have the means to, of course,
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Speaker 3: but before you start transitioning, because the hormones will destroy
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Speaker 3: your real sperm. Okay, So I got off hormones, did
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Speaker 3: that whole thing. It was a journey for both of us.
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Speaker 3: But now we have we're sitting on six embryos.
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Speaker 2: That's a lot, and those are all that's a great amount.
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Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that this podcast we're gonna have a
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Speaker 2: lot of fun. But when we're talking about, uh, your
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Speaker 2: fertility journey with NATS, I want to turn this into,
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Speaker 2: if you're okay with it, a learning experience. I want
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Speaker 2: to have questions answered that maybe our listeners don't know
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Speaker 2: about I want to humanize the experience because so often
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Speaker 2: we're on social media. There's a lot going on in
10:22
Speaker 2: the world right now and a lot of people spewing
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Speaker 2: whatever they spew. So I feel like you are the
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Speaker 2: perfect person to kind of shed light on what a
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Speaker 2: fertility journey looks like with two people who are in
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Speaker 2: a trans relationship. So you have not transitioned the fully
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Speaker 2: like I don't. I don't want to be offensive, Gigi.
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Speaker 3: Please no, trust me. I'm like the you can't offend me.
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Speaker 2: Okay, good, I'm god, I've got I can nothing. Nothing
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Speaker 2: that I say is coming with any ill intent. I
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Speaker 2: hope that you know that, So just correct me. Correct
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Speaker 2: me if I'm speaking ignorant.
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Speaker 3: I will, I will, I don't know, I I okay.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know if that's completely correct to say
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Speaker 3: that you are fully transitioned, because it looks different for everybody.
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Speaker 2: Educate me.
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Speaker 3: Yes, So I used to think the exact same way,
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Speaker 3: you know, personally speaking. I mean, I know probably a
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Speaker 3: lot of trans girls are listening to your podcast, and
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Speaker 3: when I first started transitioning, I was like, you know what,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to get my face done, my boob's done,
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Speaker 3: my vagina done, I'm going to really just do it all.
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Speaker 3: But then you know, life kind of comes at you
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Speaker 3: and you experience life in a different way. And I
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Speaker 3: never really needed the last surgery, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: I'm happy with this, and if I were, I probably
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Speaker 3: honestly were, I probably would have regretted it if I
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Speaker 3: were to you done so fast, okay, yeah, because there's
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Speaker 3: not much life experience there, you know, it's I honestly,
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Speaker 3: I compare it a lot to like dating, Like your
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Speaker 3: first love is you think it's like the end of
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Speaker 3: the world, and then you meet somebody else and it's like,
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Speaker 3: oh this, you know, this feels great again, and then
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Speaker 3: you break up or whatever, you meet another person. It's
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Speaker 3: just like life. It like goes on. So if you're
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Speaker 3: not doing it for the right reasons, which I didn't
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Speaker 3: intend to do it for the right reasons, I did
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Speaker 3: it to attract others. Oh, it wasn't about my self happiness.
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Speaker 3: So that's why I talked to so many trans girls
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Speaker 3: now and they're like, oh, you know, I've talked to many.
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Speaker 3: I won't name any obviously, but there's so many girls
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Speaker 3: who have been like I did the bottom surgery because
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Speaker 3: of insurance or because my country allowed it and it
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Speaker 3: was just the right timing, and they're like, I really
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Speaker 3: regret it, Like, wow, I can't orgasm the same. I can't,
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Speaker 3: you know. I wish that I could go back in
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Speaker 3: time and make a really a calculated decision.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: I love that you used like the first love and
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Speaker 2: you saying that you were thinking about it for the
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Speaker 2: wrong reasons. Yes, So are you still in that headspace
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Speaker 2: or are you happy where you are and there's nothing
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Speaker 2: more that you feel you want to do? Like you're
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Speaker 2: happy exactly how you are? Would you say that?
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Speaker 3: I would say I'm completely happy. I mean, there's always
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Speaker 3: this itch because I'm like into beauty and like stuff
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Speaker 3: like that.
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Speaker 1: We would have never guessed.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm like, when is my first facelift coming? Can? I? Like?
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Speaker 3: I love it? Like, give me the Lindsay treatment.
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Speaker 2: She looks so fucked, she's so good.
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Speaker 3: I just need to know where she went. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean no, I'm completely happy, like down there and
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Speaker 3: all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Perfect. Yeah, so that's a really huge deal. Then how
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Speaker 2: long did you meaning that you got six you said
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Speaker 2: healthy viable embryos? Yeah, how long did they have you
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Speaker 2: go off of the hormones to get that.
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Speaker 3: I was off for maybe two years two total. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I still am actually off.
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Speaker 2: Yeah is that because we're doing another round or.
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Speaker 3: But I also love that kind of just feel good,
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Speaker 3: like great, this is fine, you know.
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Speaker 2: And are you guys leaning towards a surrogate.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, surrogate for sure. Nots would never carry. If I
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Speaker 3: could carry, I honestly would for the lure. Okay, I
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Speaker 3: think it would like destroy my body, but I would.
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Speaker 3: And I know trans girls that have seen like on
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Speaker 3: you know, Google or whatever or like Instagram, they've gotten
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Speaker 3: uteruses like put in okay, and then a baby like
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Speaker 3: as if they're yeah, so like that's a whole thing.
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Speaker 3: But I feel like that's also a risk within itself, right,
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Speaker 3: And I don't know, but yeah, have.
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Speaker 2: You seen that thing that I think it's Elon Musk
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Speaker 2: how he's like created these robots where they can create
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Speaker 2: the baby in their stomach for people who either can't
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Speaker 2: carry and.
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Speaker 3: It's a real life baby.
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Speaker 2: Yes, like that's the idea. Yes, it's all coming.
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Speaker 3: To fruition wild.
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Speaker 4: That was like a movie, right.
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Speaker 2: No, we're living in a movie like Transformer or like
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Speaker 2: that the one with who's the guy that slapped Chris
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Speaker 2: Rock Will Smith that movie Robot. That's the world we're
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Speaker 2: living in, where like, if you cannot carry there may
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Speaker 2: be a version of a robot baking your baby for
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Speaker 2: nine months.
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Speaker 3: How do you feel baby number three doing that?
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Speaker 2: You know what, I may be more open to it
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Speaker 2: if I had a fertility issue, but because I think
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Speaker 2: I've been able and lucky enough to carry my own
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Speaker 2: children and them be healthy and myself be healthy, I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't ever choose that because I don't even have
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Speaker 2: to think about that now if I wanted a third baby,
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Speaker 2: But then I would start feeling like, girl, you got
15:52
Speaker 2: your two. There are people who are like, would die
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Speaker 2: to just have one, like let them take the robots
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Speaker 2: right right?
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I just feel like there would be
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Speaker 3: issues though with it. Right Well, what I'm thinking like,
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Speaker 3: like what if it rains that nutrition?
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Speaker 4: Where is the nutrition coming from?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a scientist.
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Speaker 2: Like Jeeves said, we were enrolled in college. We never attended,
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Speaker 2: never attend to this.
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Speaker 4: I've never attended.
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Speaker 2: So I Smart's baby street Smart and we're the podcast
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Speaker 2: that only reads the headline.
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure all of that was answered in the article, but.
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Speaker 4: I didn't really the time.
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Speaker 3: You have two babies, I have hair to curl.
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Speaker 2: Can we talk about that? By the way, because I
16:31
Speaker 2: inquired about your hairline? Oh yeah, how do you went
16:35
Speaker 2: somewhere in the United States?
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Speaker 3: I went to what's his name? You're talking about my
16:39
Speaker 3: hairline surgery? Yes? Yes, doctor, it's something with a Z.
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Speaker 3: He's in Beverly Hills, doctor Z.
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Speaker 2: Okay, what was how long before? So for those of
16:49
Speaker 2: you who don't know what I'm talking about, Gigi, and
16:52
Speaker 2: there are other people that just don't fucking talk about it,
16:55
Speaker 2: which is why I appreciate you so much. Yes, because
16:57
Speaker 2: I was thinking about how open you are on socials
17:01
Speaker 2: and you there are girls who are going to see
17:05
Speaker 2: things on social media media and they're impressionable and they
17:08
Speaker 2: think this woman was just born this way and I wasn't.
17:13
Speaker 2: And it's like no, no, no, we're all getting some help.
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Speaker 2: So I appreciate that you're so open about it. I
17:17
Speaker 2: do not have a fantastic hairline. So jiej posted a
17:21
Speaker 2: picture in a video of how she had hairline surgery
17:24
Speaker 2: to like fill it in, make it gorgeous. When you
17:26
Speaker 2: wear your hair bag, it is like chef's kiss. So
17:28
Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about. What was the recovery time
17:31
Speaker 2: like on that it was a few months.
17:33
Speaker 3: It was like really intense. To be completely, it was
17:36
Speaker 3: oh yeah, like they they cut the bat like they
17:38
Speaker 3: cut a sliver. Are you familiar with his surgery?
17:41
Speaker 4: No?
17:41
Speaker 1: No, but he also wants it.
17:43
Speaker 3: Oh really, let's see. I mean I don't Oh you're fine, yeah,
17:48
Speaker 3: but like he's funny about here. Everyone who isn't right,
17:52
Speaker 3: Like that's the spot spot.
17:54
Speaker 4: A walk in there, but like, oh you're gut though,
17:57
Speaker 4: I think so, I'll take it.
17:59
Speaker 3: But I mean it's thousands and thousands of dollars, So
18:02
Speaker 3: like if you aren't, like, are we talking like tens?
18:04
Speaker 4: I want to bring it down.
18:07
Speaker 3: I don't know. I got like a five head, No,
18:09
Speaker 3: it's four fingers.
18:10
Speaker 5: Look, I got bigger fingers.
18:14
Speaker 3: Fingers.
18:16
Speaker 2: You don't want your hairline to touch your braw.
18:18
Speaker 3: I don't think so either. I think you're good, but
18:21
Speaker 3: like for now, for.
18:22
Speaker 4: Now, for now, guys, how are you thirty one?
18:24
Speaker 3: Thirty one? I'm thirty two, So I feel like, by
18:27
Speaker 3: when do you guys start losing their hair? Well, I
18:29
Speaker 3: guess it's different for everybody.
18:30
Speaker 1: I guess it's different for everyone.
18:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, okay, thirty five, I think that's
18:35
Speaker 3: that's go through enough stress.
18:37
Speaker 2: Okay, So they they cut the back right, yes, so
18:40
Speaker 2: the back of the head.
18:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, so your face down, they like shoot you up
18:43
Speaker 3: with a bunch of like like humongous like it almost
18:46
Speaker 3: looks like did you ever watch a rocky horror picture show. No,
18:50
Speaker 3: I think that's the name of it. It's like it's
18:53
Speaker 3: like a camp musical okay with this like drag queen whatever.
18:57
Speaker 3: But it's like that size of a metal syringe, like
19:01
Speaker 3: it looked fake. When I saw it on the thing,
19:02
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you have to be kidding me.
19:04
Speaker 3: It's literally like a foot long and pure like stainless steel, and.
19:08
Speaker 4: It's got like the two finger holes.
19:09
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it looks like like uh like Halloween horrorites.
19:13
Speaker 3: Like it's fucking insane. I was like, that's going in
19:15
Speaker 3: the back of my head. So you go face down,
19:18
Speaker 3: they tape you up, they shave the back of your
19:20
Speaker 3: head where they're gonna take the sample from. They shoot
19:24
Speaker 3: you up with the metal needle. You feel nothing. You
19:27
Speaker 3: didn't feel it, Oh, it pinched like it felt like poison,
19:30
Speaker 3: like a like a like venom. I didn't feel anything.
19:33
Speaker 3: It felt like poison and it hurt, right, But after
19:37
Speaker 3: that nothing and then all of a sudden, they're, you know,
19:40
Speaker 3: cutting you open from the back.
19:42
Speaker 2: Because they got to take the hair follicles out right, Yes,
19:46
Speaker 2: didn't you take a xanax before they give you?
19:50
Speaker 3: What's it called valium? Oh?
19:51
Speaker 4: Perfect?
19:52
Speaker 3: And I kept yeah, And it was like an eight
19:54
Speaker 3: hour day, so I was like, can I have another valum?
19:56
Speaker 3: I think it's wearing off, and you're like watching TV.
19:58
Speaker 3: Once they flip you back over and sew you up,
20:02
Speaker 3: I know, and like literally your face is down. I
20:04
Speaker 3: have it all on YouTube if anybody wants to watch,
20:07
Speaker 3: or hairline surgery transplant whatever I named it probably back
20:12
Speaker 3: in that era like hair transplant, nightmare surgery, story time,
20:16
Speaker 3: click fait. But when I was down on my face,
20:19
Speaker 3: I felt the water coming down and it was almost
20:22
Speaker 3: like you're getting a massage. So your your your eyes
20:25
Speaker 3: and your mouth and your you know, nose or like covered.
20:28
Speaker 3: You can feel wet and like little did I know
20:31
Speaker 3: that was fully blood?
20:32
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna trigger warning.
20:36
Speaker 3: No, it was literally was gushing down. But you're so numb,
20:39
Speaker 3: you don't know. And then I watched because I had
20:41
Speaker 3: a videographer there, which you'll see in the thing. Uh,
20:44
Speaker 3: And I was like, I was gushing blood, but I
20:47
Speaker 3: just thought it was like a little bit of like
20:49
Speaker 3: serum or water washing my hair too. Yeah, and I'm
20:53
Speaker 3: blonde too, So when I flipped back over and I
20:55
Speaker 3: looked in the mirror, all my hair is blood red.
20:58
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think I can do it.
20:59
Speaker 3: G You're so out of it though. It's actually kind
21:03
Speaker 3: of relaxing. I'll be real, I swear to god. What
21:06
Speaker 3: is what is the Uh?
21:09
Speaker 4: How do you do you have to wear like a
21:11
Speaker 4: like a d or something you.
21:12
Speaker 3: Can't put you can't make it sweat, you can't get
21:15
Speaker 3: it hot, so you just have to let it chill.
21:18
Speaker 2: So what did you do? Just stay home in your
21:20
Speaker 2: your non brand sheets?
21:23
Speaker 3: I yes, but I also got you know, Lady Gaga
21:27
Speaker 3: Joanne yes album. I got those hats made from her
21:30
Speaker 3: person so it would just touch here, like on my forehead. Yeah,
21:35
Speaker 3: leave this.
21:35
Speaker 4: At so you can wear hats.
21:36
Speaker 3: So we were yeah, because they still had to work.
21:38
Speaker 3: So I would put like a wig, attach it here
21:41
Speaker 3: and then put the huge cowboy hat on. That's so
21:44
Speaker 3: I still have like a little bit of length, and
21:46
Speaker 3: then the second I was done, I would rip it
21:48
Speaker 3: all off because I was like, I'm scared that it's
21:49
Speaker 3: getting too hot.
21:50
Speaker 5: Oh the same I would have had to take work
21:52
Speaker 5: because I'm a I run hot too, and I'm a sweater.
21:55
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh I am too.
21:56
Speaker 2: Wait, so is this your Is this the hair?
21:58
Speaker 3: No? This is a wig?
21:59
Speaker 1: Oh that's a wig?
22:00
Speaker 3: Yeah?
22:00
Speaker 1: Do you prefer wigs over like extensions for.
22:03
Speaker 3: Days like today?
22:05
Speaker 1: Why can you tell me easy?
22:06
Speaker 3: Easier?
22:07
Speaker 5: Do you?
22:08
Speaker 3: This is like already done and you have someone come
22:10
Speaker 3: over and do it. No, I do it myself.
22:12
Speaker 1: You put your own wig on?
22:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I style it and everything.
22:16
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm very impressed.
22:18
Speaker 3: I'm a nerd like that. I love like beauty, and
22:20
Speaker 3: I like I will sit and listen to a podcasts
22:23
Speaker 3: okay for like an hour and just like curl my
22:25
Speaker 3: hair and style it and set it and put it
22:27
Speaker 3: by my bath and like spray it with stuff.
22:30
Speaker 4: Gee.
22:30
Speaker 2: Do you do you have like a full video tutorial
22:33
Speaker 2: on how you put your wig on?
22:35
Speaker 3: No? This is glueless. This I just like put this on.
22:40
Speaker 3: I'm I can show you.
22:42
Speaker 4: Wow, I had no.
22:43
Speaker 2: Idea how how long is your You know Kim K
22:47
Speaker 2: prefers wigs.
22:48
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean because I don't know if she
22:49
Speaker 3: knows how to put one on.
22:50
Speaker 2: Okay, well no, I'm sure someone's putting them on for her.
22:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they probably install it. I prefer it because
22:57
Speaker 3: they last longer if you don't put glue or adhesive
22:59
Speaker 3: or anything on them. It's like a hat, okay, like
23:02
Speaker 3: you secure it to you and then like the part
23:05
Speaker 3: you pluck, like it's all artistry. When people are like, oh,
23:08
Speaker 3: can you do my wig for me, I'm like, well,
23:10
Speaker 3: nobody ever asked me that. But like when people ask
23:15
Speaker 3: wig people or hairstylists can you make a wig for me,
23:18
Speaker 3: It's like no, no, no, we have to see it on you.
23:20
Speaker 3: We have to like you can't buy a wig, no,
23:23
Speaker 3: or else you look like crazy during Pride in my
23:26
Speaker 3: green wig, and it's like, oh, but it's Pride though,
23:28
Speaker 3: so you have a you have a safe bear because
23:31
Speaker 3: no one looks crazy during Pride.
23:33
Speaker 2: I mean I felt really really good at Pride. I
23:35
Speaker 2: was like you know what, and I I think I
23:38
Speaker 2: had just gotten sober, so I had like the fresh
23:41
Speaker 2: like I haven't had a drink glow.
23:43
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, love that glow. I can imagine.
23:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I hadn't had kids yet, so my tits
23:48
Speaker 2: were up to my chin.
23:49
Speaker 1: Sorry, Austin, can I can I ask you?
23:53
Speaker 3: So?
23:53
Speaker 2: Do you watch Real House? I was a Potomac?
23:55
Speaker 3: Is that the one which is l Yes, I've seen it,
23:58
Speaker 3: but I don't follow up. Do Salt Lake City, Orange County,
24:01
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills.
24:02
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we'll get into it. So there's a
24:05
Speaker 2: girl named Ashley on Potomac, short hair, short hair. She
24:10
Speaker 2: is so cute and she this last episode, it was
24:14
Speaker 2: so amazing, you guys. She did she was a drag
24:17
Speaker 2: king and her her mom and her uncle and her
24:22
Speaker 2: brother come to watch, and she like does this sexy
24:25
Speaker 2: like masculine dance.
24:26
Speaker 1: Right, she looks fucking hot.
24:28
Speaker 2: Rips her suit code open and she's got suspenders but
24:32
Speaker 2: just pasties on. And I'm like, okay, so hot, but like,
24:35
Speaker 2: I could never do that in front of like my
24:38
Speaker 2: uncle and my brother.
24:41
Speaker 1: With just pasties on my nipples.
24:43
Speaker 3: Well, you're glued right, like nothing.
24:45
Speaker 2: She was totally glued. Yeah, and like sall right, they're
24:50
Speaker 2: like a petite but fake. They look very good, like natural,
24:54
Speaker 2: very natural. But she was so in character right. So
24:57
Speaker 2: there's that's the first time that I had heard of
25:00
Speaker 2: drag king.
25:02
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:03
Speaker 2: I learned from a drag queen because I said I
25:05
Speaker 2: wanted to go I wanted to do a drag show,
25:08
Speaker 2: and they said, bio drag Is that correct?
25:12
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, honestly, I'm so like during
25:16
Speaker 3: bio is biological? Yes, So bio drag is you just
25:21
Speaker 3: wearing a ship ton of makeup, a ship ton of hair.
25:23
Speaker 1: And my drag glam.
25:25
Speaker 3: You're like a biological drag queen.
25:27
Speaker 2: That's what I gathered from it, so that during the
25:31
Speaker 2: green wig moment, I was channeling my bio drag moments.
25:35
Speaker 3: I need.
25:38
Speaker 1: Hair is a trigger alert?
25:40
Speaker 2: Okay, but my drag queen name is La La cunt Oh.
25:44
Speaker 3: That's so cute. That's cute, right, very cute.
25:47
Speaker 2: Don't stop listening to the podcast because I used the
25:49
Speaker 2: C word.
25:50
Speaker 3: You can. It's it's acceptable in the UK.
25:54
Speaker 4: It's all chocolate and beautiful. Wait, what is cunt oh love?
26:00
Speaker 1: Are you talking about a clip?
26:02
Speaker 3: No?
26:02
Speaker 4: The word how it comes off?
26:05
Speaker 3: So it's just milky and just I don't I A
26:10
Speaker 3: cunt is like a knife. It sounds like the knife emoji.
26:14
Speaker 3: How I feel about it cut it's like it cuts deep,
26:17
Speaker 3: or if it's like, oh my god, you look so cunt.
26:19
Speaker 2: That is the dancing girl.
26:20
Speaker 3: That's cute.
26:21
Speaker 4: What's it called? Yeah, yeah, buddy. I got into the
26:23
Speaker 4: car and he told me I was serving cunt. Was
26:25
Speaker 4: that good?
26:26
Speaker 1: That's yes, that's great.
26:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:28
Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to serve Yeah, yeah.
26:30
Speaker 5: I don't know it we all don't it, my friend,
26:33
Speaker 5: he said, I get home, you feel pretty fucking good.
26:36
Speaker 3: Yeah. It should. It should unless someone's like literally calling
26:39
Speaker 3: you a hunt. But other I mean, sometimes it can
26:41
Speaker 3: be good.
26:42
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna have a word with this gentleman.
26:46
Speaker 2: By the way, I think it would make a great housewife.
26:48
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you.
26:49
Speaker 2: How do we petition this?
26:51
Speaker 3: I have been put up for it, I think one
26:55
Speaker 3: or two times, and I was told that I was
26:57
Speaker 3: too young. That would make it makes sense too well.
27:00
Speaker 3: I looked up the youngest housewife. I forget who it was,
27:03
Speaker 3: but there were like a couple that were my age,
27:05
Speaker 3: and I feel like one younger different cities, though different
27:07
Speaker 3: cities not Beverly Hills.
27:09
Speaker 2: That would make sense because back in the OC days
27:12
Speaker 2: there was Megan King, but she black hair, she had
27:16
Speaker 2: dark hair, and then she was married to the baseball
27:18
Speaker 2: player who was like twenty years older. She was only
27:21
Speaker 2: on for a few seasons, but she did make a splash.
27:24
Speaker 2: But she was thirty when she entered housewife.
27:26
Speaker 3: Right, and now they're like, you need kids, you need
27:28
Speaker 3: to have a divorce already, second marriage, you know, you
27:31
Speaker 3: need to be like like thirty, Like you need more baggage.
27:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need a lot of baggage, but experience, but
27:37
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more experience exactly.
27:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, quote unquote yeah, eye roll attached to that.
27:43
Speaker 3: I feel like, also a lot of them now aren't
27:46
Speaker 3: even married or with anyone.
27:48
Speaker 2: Right, A lot of them are like I've been divorced
27:50
Speaker 2: for twelve years.
27:51
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have kids.
27:54
Speaker 3: Or not even dating. Probably right, It's like they're just
27:57
Speaker 3: single girls. You're a housewife, how right?
28:00
Speaker 4: How many the game has changed?
28:02
Speaker 2: The girls in New York, I want to say, are
28:06
Speaker 2: mid to late thirties and into forties, and I think
28:08
Speaker 2: Jenna Lliance might be fifties.
28:10
Speaker 4: And yeah, how many of them are married? I don't
28:12
Speaker 4: think any of them are.
28:13
Speaker 2: All of them are either married or in a relationship,
28:17
Speaker 2: but most of them are divorced, but I feel like
28:19
Speaker 2: you have all of you have kids.
28:22
Speaker 1: They're for kids, but kids are kids?
28:24
Speaker 3: Three kids? Yeah, well six on ice, six on ice,
28:27
Speaker 3: I get cast I have a kid. I'm like, here, bravo, you're.
28:33
Speaker 2: Married with kids. That's the criteria you have to meet. Yeah,
28:37
Speaker 2: which one is your favorite of all of the Housewives franchises?
28:41
Speaker 3: Ooh, good question. I mean currently, I love Beverly Hills.
28:45
Speaker 3: I've always loved Beverly Hills.
28:47
Speaker 2: I think if you could go in and raid anyone's closet,
28:51
Speaker 2: who's would it be? On BH?
28:53
Speaker 3: On BH? Yeah, maybe Sutton. She's like the most.
28:57
Speaker 1: Rich, totally not what I was expecting.
29:00
Speaker 3: You expected Eric Dane.
29:02
Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe Deret and then and then as
29:05
Speaker 2: I watched her, I was like, maybe Erica Jane.
29:07
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's a little bit too predictable
29:09
Speaker 1: for jeez.
29:10
Speaker 2: Shutton, I think is just like unlimited. Oh yeah, like anything. Well,
29:14
Speaker 2: same with Jennifer Tilly. Now that bitch has Simpson money.
29:18
Speaker 3: Oh she's so cute. I don't think that we would
29:20
Speaker 3: vibe though.
29:21
Speaker 2: Her personality or your closet both.
29:23
Speaker 3: I don't even know what she wears.
29:25
Speaker 2: Well, she had that thirty six thousand dollars Louis Vuitton.
29:28
Speaker 3: Boat Oh I love her closet. I'm obsessed.
29:32
Speaker 2: He right, so good? Wait, why do you think you
29:34
Speaker 2: wouldn't vibe?
29:35
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've just never really seen a scene
29:38
Speaker 3: of her where I'm like, I love her.
29:39
Speaker 2: You want to know what's great about being Jennifer Tilly, though, Yeah?
29:42
Speaker 2: Is that you're so fucking rich that you can just
29:46
Speaker 2: be a friend of You're like, I don't really give
29:48
Speaker 2: a fuck, don't pay attention to me. Just invite me
29:50
Speaker 2: to all the cool parties. I'll be like the comedic
29:52
Speaker 2: relief while Kathy Hilton's like in France. Right, and then
29:55
Speaker 2: when she comes back, I'll go back to like playing
29:58
Speaker 2: poker and wearing my thirty six thousand dollars boat bag
30:02
Speaker 2: that doesn't even fit anything in it.
30:03
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, two questions. First of all, what's a boat bag?
30:06
Speaker 3: What does it look like?
30:07
Speaker 2: It's literally just like the classic Louis Vuitton print.
30:10
Speaker 3: Is it like a never? It looks like a boat,
30:13
Speaker 3: but like a never full? What is that? No?
30:16
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no, I'm going to google
30:18
Speaker 2: the boat bag.
30:19
Speaker 3: Okay, it's literally a shaped like a boat or exactly
30:22
Speaker 3: like a boat like there's like like windows and shit
30:25
Speaker 3: on it.
30:26
Speaker 1: LV boat bag LV boat bags.
30:29
Speaker 3: It's so expensive because.
30:31
Speaker 1: It's like an art piece. I guess you could fit
30:33
Speaker 1: shit in it.
30:33
Speaker 3: Did she wear it out out? Like was like wearing
30:36
Speaker 3: it like yeah, getting it on his table and stuff.
30:38
Speaker 2: She had that and a normal.
30:40
Speaker 3: Oh it's so small. It's like a submarine, isn't it.
30:46
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the bags that are kind
30:48
Speaker 2: of more like art pieces.
30:49
Speaker 3: I hate it, Like the Judath levers that oh my god,
30:52
Speaker 3: literally stole the words right out of my mouth. Oh
30:54
Speaker 3: my god. Okay, so my mom has passed and I
30:57
Speaker 3: see her in like ladybugs, right, okay, so NAT's got
31:02
Speaker 3: me a lady bug. I think it was like a
31:05
Speaker 3: one of one Judith liber bag and it is I'm
31:09
Speaker 3: not kidding you like this like maybe make a fist
31:12
Speaker 3: like double that size. Ye. I'm like I've worn it out,
31:15
Speaker 3: but I've given it away when I'm like on the carpet,
31:17
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't wear this. My phone doesn't fit.
31:20
Speaker 2: Nothing fit no, and there's no give. It's literally like
31:23
Speaker 2: sororofski crystal. Yours was probably diamonds because you know your
31:27
Speaker 2: hubs got that getty mind.
31:29
Speaker 3: It was just regular, but it was so small. I
31:31
Speaker 3: was like, this is beautiful. I'm never gonna wear it.
31:33
Speaker 1: Though, like, yeah, I have one Judith liber bag.
31:36
Speaker 3: But also like I mean with all the wildfires and stuff,
31:39
Speaker 3: it's like, take that because that is expensive. Those bags
31:43
Speaker 3: are expensive.
31:44
Speaker 2: They are expens went on the website.
31:45
Speaker 3: I was like, how much this will do cost? And
31:48
Speaker 3: it was like a.
31:49
Speaker 2: Lot, but you still have it. Yes, you just handed
31:52
Speaker 2: it to people on the red carpet.
31:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, like once I thought you meant that you gave
31:56
Speaker 3: it away to give it away to the photographers.
32:00
Speaker 2: I was like, that's a nice little tip.
32:02
Speaker 3: I would never ever. No, it's so special. I love
32:05
Speaker 3: it and like the Ladybug's like smiling. It's like really cute, but.
32:07
Speaker 1: That does sound cute.
32:08
Speaker 3: It just I can't fit shit in it. I don't
32:10
Speaker 3: want to. Who wants to carry around a gorgeous bag
32:12
Speaker 3: with their phone behind it holding it?
32:14
Speaker 2: It's a lot, so lovely and it's very breakable that bag,
32:17
Speaker 2: is it? Well, yeah, I think about it. One wrong
32:20
Speaker 2: move you lose a crystal, you break off some little part,
32:23
Speaker 2: like one wrong move and it breaks the corner of
32:25
Speaker 2: the Yeah, exactly what kind of gifts do you prefer
32:29
Speaker 2: from nats? Like, when you guys are celebrating, like your
32:32
Speaker 2: birthday or a monumental moment, what do you.
32:36
Speaker 3: Prefer will He always has insisted that he buys all
32:40
Speaker 3: of like my jewelry, okay, which I think is fun
32:43
Speaker 3: because I've never I love costume jewelry, Like I literally
32:46
Speaker 3: could give a fuck, like take me to Forever twenty one,
32:49
Speaker 3: I'll get earrings whatever. And my my skin's also not
32:53
Speaker 3: sensitive to like turning green or like I don't get
32:56
Speaker 3: you know, So I'm like, yeah, it's fine, whear whatever, Yeah,
32:58
Speaker 3: weear whatever. But he's like very much like I want
33:00
Speaker 3: to buy you this. I want to buy you that.
33:02
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, And do you like the
33:05
Speaker 2: surprise or does he usually have you pick it out?
33:07
Speaker 3: No? Always surprise.
33:08
Speaker 2: Oh I love that.
33:09
Speaker 3: Always surprised. Yeah, I never know it's coming. Yeah.
33:12
Speaker 2: I feel like jewelry is one of those things that
33:13
Speaker 2: you don't go and buy yourself.
33:16
Speaker 3: I can see why people would though, because it's on
33:19
Speaker 3: you. You're looking at It's like on you, what about you?
33:23
Speaker 2: I mean I used to be obsessed with like bags,
33:27
Speaker 2: and now I'm really into buying myself jewelry, and I
33:30
Speaker 2: always love spending money on shoes, Like I can go
33:34
Speaker 2: like you said to Forever twenty one or a Zara
33:36
Speaker 2: H and M and get an outfit.
33:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes a lot.
33:40
Speaker 2: It has to be like a really cooler special piece
33:42
Speaker 2: for me to walk in and drop mad money on
33:45
Speaker 2: a piece of you know, fabric.
33:47
Speaker 3: Because you only wear stuff a couple times.
33:50
Speaker 1: That's how I feel it.
33:51
Speaker 2: I'm usually if I don't get dressed up and glammed
33:54
Speaker 2: unless I'm going out out and there's a camera. Otherwise
33:58
Speaker 2: I'm just in sweatpants. But my shoes and the bag
34:02
Speaker 2: and the jewelry now I've found are what elevate the
34:06
Speaker 2: outfit that I either got on Amazon or H and M.
34:10
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
34:10
Speaker 3: Yes, one billion percent. You can be in like a
34:13
Speaker 3: five dollars little like bodysuit jumpsuit dress from Amazon, like black,
34:18
Speaker 3: with jewels and shoes and everything, and like obviously we're
34:22
Speaker 3: very gregarious, so like it just sells the garment totally.
34:26
Speaker 3: The personality. Yes, favorite shoe brand.
34:29
Speaker 2: Favorite shoe brand. I want to say Jean Vito Rossi
34:32
Speaker 2: because I don't even know her. Okay, they I think
34:36
Speaker 2: it's a guy.
34:37
Speaker 3: Yea Jean Vito Jean Vito Rossi.
34:40
Speaker 2: Yes, he makes or they make the most comfortable shoe
34:47
Speaker 2: for a woman, okay, like Christian Lubiton. Yeah, gorgeous shoes,
34:52
Speaker 2: but when I wear them, I'm like, he hates women.
34:55
Speaker 3: You know what? I love Giuseppes and naughty. Uh.
34:58
Speaker 1: Giuseppes are good.
35:00
Speaker 3: It's a little bit painful, A little bit. I have
35:02
Speaker 3: more of Like I'm a size ten okay, so like
35:05
Speaker 3: a forty one okay. My foot is a little bit wider,
35:08
Speaker 3: like I sometimes can't fit in like the you know,
35:10
Speaker 3: the tea strap. Yes, I'm sure you have a very
35:12
Speaker 3: narrow foot. You're tiny.
35:14
Speaker 2: I have a narrow foot, but jee, after having kids,
35:17
Speaker 2: I have to wear compression socks before I put up
35:19
Speaker 2: fuck you, hello, I have to wear compression socks before
35:22
Speaker 2: I wear a Jiuseppi because that ankle strap be real tight.
35:27
Speaker 3: Yes, isn't it insane? I mean it's like you fit
35:30
Speaker 3: in it or it just doesn't fit.
35:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Cinderella's shoe.
35:33
Speaker 3: Yeah. I honestly, I don't really care about shoes, just
35:35
Speaker 3: as long as there's a height because I need.
35:37
Speaker 2: You like it? Yes, I mean, how tall is your
35:39
Speaker 2: shoe right now?
35:40
Speaker 1: Six inches? It's a minimum.
35:41
Speaker 3: It's a daffodil Christian Lubaton daffodil, like six and a half.
35:46
Speaker 3: I feel comfortable that way though.
35:49
Speaker 2: Well, the way you walked in here, I thought you
35:50
Speaker 2: were in fucking new balances.
35:53
Speaker 3: This is this is basically a sneaker to me, it
35:56
Speaker 3: really is.
35:57
Speaker 2: That's your signature shoe. I feel.
35:58
Speaker 3: I think so too. I I need the height, I
36:01
Speaker 3: need the chunk. I need it just like sets off
36:03
Speaker 3: the proportions. It just makes me feel good.
36:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it also is very feminine.
36:07
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. It is. I mean maybe not the
36:10
Speaker 3: height factor, but I also feel but the sleekness this way, yes, yes,
36:14
Speaker 3: it like extends everything. Yeah.
36:16
Speaker 2: And you see the top of the foot, yeah, Larry sexy.
36:19
Speaker 3: Yeah. What about your favorite brand?
36:22
Speaker 4: My favorite brand? I love a good secondary piece.
36:26
Speaker 2: From oh, like a like a vintage storey.
36:28
Speaker 4: Like Buffalo Exchange. I really like going into vintage stores.
36:31
Speaker 4: But if I had to pick like a new.
36:35
Speaker 5: Brand, I really don't even know, just because there's just
36:39
Speaker 5: so many, and like you said, I just don't wear
36:42
Speaker 5: them a lot.
36:42
Speaker 3: Like hmm.
36:43
Speaker 5: I just love a certain feel like I do love
36:46
Speaker 5: Nike the way they fit. I do love Jordan Nike.
36:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
36:49
Speaker 4: But other than that, like all of my hoodies I
36:51
Speaker 4: get from like just.
36:53
Speaker 3: Secondary like a heighte beast. If you have like a
36:59
Speaker 3: million dollars right now, what would you buy clothing wise?
37:02
Speaker 4: Like shoes, clothing, mags, shoes.
37:05
Speaker 5: I would probably go and buy a pair of Christian
37:09
Speaker 5: Lubetin's just like basic.
37:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, all black love it.
37:13
Speaker 5: I really am into like the new balances, like the
37:16
Speaker 5: new like the f seventies or seven.
37:19
Speaker 2: They like a thicker sole, show the thicker sole, like
37:22
Speaker 2: the bad shoes, right yeah.
37:24
Speaker 4: Like I'm just into that. Or other than that, I
37:25
Speaker 4: just wear like vans and just crocs. Just I'm just basic.
37:30
Speaker 4: Like I just like wearing sweatpants.
37:32
Speaker 5: Like if there's an expensive pair of sweatpants out about that,
37:35
Speaker 5: I don't know about.
37:36
Speaker 2: Oh, I love like a good logo like Gucci sweats.
37:40
Speaker 3: Honestly, I know you didn't, Yes you did.
37:43
Speaker 4: I think Polo would be like if I had to
37:45
Speaker 4: go and do one.
37:46
Speaker 3: Thing, it would be yeah, okay, wow, I don't know what.
37:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really love their shirts the way they but
37:54
Speaker 5: this is the thing, it's the way they just fit.
37:56
Speaker 4: Yeah.
37:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I haven't found another shirt that like the
38:00
Speaker 5: haller fits that way with the arms and like, I'm
38:02
Speaker 5: very ging are skinny.
38:05
Speaker 2: He's not as skinny as he thinks he is.
38:07
Speaker 4: No, so I'm skinny. So I try to find things
38:12
Speaker 4: that just match my body because right my legs, I
38:14
Speaker 4: got these long dancer legs. Lucky, I got.
38:18
Speaker 2: To wear these shoes to get Does Nat still have
38:21
Speaker 2: striking oil?
38:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, strike oil, his cur strike oil.
38:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.
38:25
Speaker 3: You know what's funny. I was actually just talking to
38:27
Speaker 3: him about this earlier today. He so, in the clothing business,
38:31
Speaker 3: you have to put out, you have to put in
38:33
Speaker 3: sorry designs and uh, your collection for the next year,
38:38
Speaker 3: a year and a half in advance. So he was
38:41
Speaker 3: showing me stuff like the look book.
38:43
Speaker 2: So you have to know what people may like a
38:45
Speaker 2: year and a half from now.
38:46
Speaker 3: I think it's so unfair.
38:47
Speaker 4: It's almost like, go on.
38:49
Speaker 5: I was gonna say that the fashion industry like the
38:51
Speaker 5: people who are creating fashion because they're a year in advance,
38:55
Speaker 5: they're kind of the ones that are pushing fashion.
38:59
Speaker 3: Right, It's not fast fashion, like you know how like
39:01
Speaker 3: you know, like Kim Kardashian will wear something and then.
39:03
Speaker 2: Like Fashionova will have it, but it's.
39:06
Speaker 3: Like they have all of that. It's like fast fashion,
39:08
Speaker 3: whereas like an independent designer, clothing label whatever, will have
39:13
Speaker 3: to put in the designs a year and a half
39:14
Speaker 3: in advance. So he was showing me the look book
39:16
Speaker 3: and I was like, I can't wait to wear this.
39:18
Speaker 3: I can't wait to wear this.
39:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, this look book, and he was like, out in.
39:22
Speaker 3: Winter twenty twenty six. I was like, oh, I'm gonna
39:24
Speaker 3: forget about it, but like love.
39:26
Speaker 1: Then who knows if I'm moving gonna like it?
39:28
Speaker 4: I myself so I can wear it tomorrow literally.
39:32
Speaker 2: But I love his brand and it was you wore
39:36
Speaker 2: it on the shores. You guys sent me a piece
39:38
Speaker 2: and I love it. And he dressed MGK for one
39:43
Speaker 2: of his like award shows.
39:45
Speaker 3: Did he? MGK has worn him a lot of times, actually,
39:50
Speaker 3: he wore him. My favorite look that MGK wore of
39:53
Speaker 3: Strike Oil was he was at What's Muscle Beach Venice Beach. Yes, Yeah,
39:59
Speaker 3: he performed on a rooftop with Yes. Meghan was there.
40:03
Speaker 1: I totally remember.
40:04
Speaker 3: It was in like a blue and white matching de yes.
40:08
Speaker 2: It was chop and bottom. This is what I'm thinking of.
40:10
Speaker 3: Yes, So When we saw that, we gagged because it
40:12
Speaker 3: was like a surprise performance or whatever. But I was like,
40:14
Speaker 3: oh my god, that's literally Strike Oil, So.
40:16
Speaker 2: You had no idea. You guys didn't dress him.
40:18
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I think his stylist is a fan.
40:21
Speaker 3: And then pulled, which is crazy, but like, he literally
40:24
Speaker 3: will wear it and we've seen him out at like
40:26
Speaker 3: many events and he's like, oh love Strike Oil, like
40:28
Speaker 3: we're like friendly, which is great, so sweet. I haven't
40:32
Speaker 3: seen him since his new tattoo, like the Blackout.
40:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm into it, are you? I? Well, I mean,
40:38
Speaker 4: at what point if you're gonna tat he was so
40:40
Speaker 4: covered restart.
40:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've never seen him without a shirt off in
40:44
Speaker 3: real life, so I can't tell. But it's a luck.
40:48
Speaker 4: It's a luck, and a painful one at that.
40:50
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh my god.
40:52
Speaker 2: Imagine speaking of Meghan Fogs and MGK though I think
40:55
Speaker 2: they're done.
40:55
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, what's the latest?
40:58
Speaker 1: The latest is.
40:59
Speaker 2: He wrote some crypto thing on Instagram?
41:01
Speaker 3: What was it?
41:01
Speaker 1: It was?
41:02
Speaker 2: How can sources say when the sources haven't said anything?
41:06
Speaker 2: And I think he's meaning like sources are saying you
41:10
Speaker 2: know this, that and the other about he and Megan Fox.
41:13
Speaker 2: But they're technically the sources and they haven't said anything.
41:16
Speaker 2: But sources on her side have said she wants nothing
41:20
Speaker 2: to do with him, and her side is very excited
41:23
Speaker 2: about that cash fire. Did you go past cheating?
41:26
Speaker 3: I don't know the new baby on the word.
41:28
Speaker 1: Depends on the situation.
41:29
Speaker 3: Depends on the situation. I guess, yeah, I don't know.
41:34
Speaker 3: It really does, it really does. So the vibe was
41:38
Speaker 3: the last that I heard. This is like old news, right.
41:41
Speaker 2: Them breaking up, But then it was recent that that
41:44
Speaker 2: he made this post. I guess by the time this heres,
41:47
Speaker 2: who knows what?
41:48
Speaker 3: I don't know.
41:48
Speaker 2: Did you see them out?
41:50
Speaker 3: No? No, I forgot about them. Literally, I just thought
41:55
Speaker 3: that they were like broken up.
41:56
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I mean, I don't know the
41:59
Speaker 2: new sente is yes with his baby and did she
42:02
Speaker 2: have it yet? No, she's preparing to give birth.
42:04
Speaker 5: But that's why I feel like if her team is
42:06
Speaker 5: saying she's not wanting to be back with him, I
42:08
Speaker 5: feel like it is because there is now a child involved.
42:12
Speaker 4: You guys, she was like shit forth with him, but
42:14
Speaker 4: now with the child, I think she's done.
42:16
Speaker 1: So I want to circle back.
42:17
Speaker 2: Since we're talking about kids, when do you think that
42:21
Speaker 2: you would want because thirty two is young.
42:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So when we did the the IVY app,
42:27
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I need it like now,
42:30
Speaker 3: like I want a kid now. And then all of
42:31
Speaker 3: a sudden, when we had our embryos, and I know
42:33
Speaker 3: a lot of mom's future moms and yeah, you know,
42:37
Speaker 3: moms that want to be moms have talked about, oh
42:39
Speaker 3: that's just said give La La a hug for me.
42:43
Speaker 3: That's so weird now, like.
42:45
Speaker 1: Just now, No, I love him.
42:47
Speaker 3: I know you do. I know he loves you too,
42:49
Speaker 3: but very weird timing. But uh yeah, I thought I
42:53
Speaker 3: need kids now, like we got to start now. And
42:55
Speaker 3: then when we got our embryos, and I know, I've
42:57
Speaker 3: talked to a lot of other women and they're like,
42:59
Speaker 3: oh my god, like and couples, they're like, we have
43:01
Speaker 3: so much time, Like this has just locked in the
43:04
Speaker 3: time for us, right so we can live our lives.
43:07
Speaker 3: And now whenever I get up or I don't have
43:10
Speaker 3: work and I sleep in, I'm like, my life will
43:13
Speaker 3: be so much different when I have kids. So I'm
43:16
Speaker 3: kind of just holding on right now. I don't know when,
43:19
Speaker 3: I mean a year, two years.
43:21
Speaker 2: What's the age difference? But you will know when, like it'll.
43:24
Speaker 4: Just you'll just know it's the right time.
43:26
Speaker 3: Right, That's what I think too, And I'm like, it's
43:27
Speaker 3: not right now.
43:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. How's the age difference between you
43:31
Speaker 2: and nts? We're the same age, same age. You have
43:35
Speaker 2: nothing but fucking time.
43:37
Speaker 3: That's why I always hear that, And people are like chill,
43:40
Speaker 3: like just chill, and like we have them on ice.
43:43
Speaker 3: They're fine, they're safe, they're healthy. It's like it's gonna
43:47
Speaker 3: be whatever. But yeah, I can't really imagine my life
43:49
Speaker 3: like shifting that much because now I just worry about me, him,
43:54
Speaker 3: my job to other people, and then it's all gonna
43:57
Speaker 3: be like to the new baby.
43:59
Speaker 2: Do you have a group of friends who are parents
44:02
Speaker 2: at all?
44:03
Speaker 3: I have a few, I have. Yeah, Like I could
44:06
Speaker 3: count on one hand.
44:08
Speaker 1: How many people.
44:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, how many people have kids?
44:10
Speaker 2: And the people that don't, who you're close with, did
44:13
Speaker 2: they want children or are they more in a situation
44:16
Speaker 2: of like I'm good, I just want to like live
44:18
Speaker 2: my life and be by myself.
44:20
Speaker 3: It's like fifty to fifty to be completely honest.
44:22
Speaker 2: Okay, so you wouldn't be completely isolated not when you
44:25
Speaker 2: have children.
44:26
Speaker 3: Oh no, I would have like play dates beyond, yeah, beyond.
44:30
Speaker 3: And that's tough in LA because I feel like a
44:33
Speaker 3: lot of people are just here for a good time
44:36
Speaker 3: or their career. It's very rare that I feel like
44:38
Speaker 3: people like Settle Down have children, right, especially like I
44:42
Speaker 3: don't know my friend group. It kind of just happened
44:44
Speaker 3: all at once. I don't know, maybe we grew up.
44:46
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm very lucky that if I were to have,
44:50
Speaker 3: you know, tomorrow, have a baby, I would know who
44:53
Speaker 3: to call. I love that for play dates and advice
44:56
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff.
44:57
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, thirty two, Oh my god. When I look
45:00
Speaker 2: back at having Ocean at thirty, yeah, I thought like, oh,
45:04
Speaker 2: this is the perfect time, and it was.
45:05
Speaker 1: It was a great time because had I waited, she
45:07
Speaker 1: wouldn't be who she is, right.
45:08
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
45:09
Speaker 2: But when I hear about someone who's thirty now and
45:12
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, we're thinking about having kids, I'm like, wait,
45:15
Speaker 2: you are so young, so I think you're doing it
45:19
Speaker 2: the complete right way.
45:21
Speaker 3: No, it's good advice. That's very good advice.
45:23
Speaker 2: I'm giving you on solicited advice.
45:24
Speaker 3: No, I love it. Give it to me. Literally pile
45:28
Speaker 3: it on because I love it.
45:30
Speaker 2: Even if you have like these moms who have a
45:32
Speaker 2: lot of help, because it takes a lot of help.
45:35
Speaker 1: They always want like their parents.
45:38
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, And even when you're not with them mentally,
45:42
Speaker 2: you're with them, like when I go and work. Even
45:45
Speaker 2: right now, I'm fixated on Like Okay, I hope, so
45:49
Speaker 2: says you know, you're just you're taken away from from
45:52
Speaker 2: where you are because you're constantly worried about what they're
45:54
Speaker 2: doing if.
45:55
Speaker 3: They're okay, I completely understand.
45:57
Speaker 2: I think you're making an adult dec So what would
46:02
Speaker 2: you say before we sign off? People who have children,
46:06
Speaker 2: what would be the best way to educate them about LGBTQ.
46:14
Speaker 1: I A plus?
46:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah did I.
46:17
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave any letter out.
46:19
Speaker 3: Are you a part of our community?
46:21
Speaker 2: Yes, like you're bye. I've eaten a few cookie?
46:25
Speaker 3: But could you phone? Or are you pan?
46:28
Speaker 1: What is PAN?
46:29
Speaker 2: Like?
46:29
Speaker 3: You can fall in love with anybody.
46:30
Speaker 2: I don't think I could fall in love with anybody.
46:33
Speaker 2: I could hook up with anybody, but as far as
46:36
Speaker 2: a relationship for your sex addict, we were diagnosed ice
46:43
Speaker 2: and diagnose this the New Name podcast.
46:46
Speaker 3: I love it well, so you wouldn't say that you're by.
46:49
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really, I don't really I would
46:51
Speaker 3: care for labels really anymore.
46:52
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't say that I'm by, Okay, I would
46:55
Speaker 2: say that I would make out with a chick down.
46:57
Speaker 1: I'm just down for the cause.
46:59
Speaker 2: Now, if I look at my partner, if I'm gonna
47:01
Speaker 2: be with somebody, yeah, I see that person as a man.
47:05
Speaker 3: Right. Have you ever hooked up with a girl since
47:07
Speaker 3: being sober? I don't know how long you've been sober?
47:09
Speaker 2: Well, no, but you also have to take into account
47:12
Speaker 2: I really haven't hooked up with many dudes, okay, and
47:15
Speaker 2: being sober and single okay either, So right now and
47:18
Speaker 2: now and then, just so, you're an ally, I'm fucking
47:21
Speaker 2: ask So you're an ally?
47:23
Speaker 3: Ok I love it?
47:26
Speaker 4: No, you are?
47:27
Speaker 3: Okay, you have me here. You're an ally.
47:29
Speaker 2: I I feel like I'm a fucking ally and I
47:32
Speaker 2: wear that with pride.
47:33
Speaker 3: You're a fierce ally.
47:35
Speaker 2: Actually, well, thank you. I appreciate you saying that. I'm
47:38
Speaker 2: wondering how I pass that down to my child in
47:42
Speaker 2: a productive and informative and educated way.
47:46
Speaker 3: You know. I feel like now there's so much conversation
47:50
Speaker 3: around people transitioning at a young age, and you know,
47:54
Speaker 3: parents raising their children as the gender that they identify with,
47:58
Speaker 3: not the one that they were born as or assigned to.
48:02
Speaker 3: And I just feel like consistency is key, Like that
48:06
Speaker 3: is my main advice. I don't have children. I've never
48:09
Speaker 3: raised a transgender child. I've never raised anybody ever except
48:14
Speaker 3: a cat, so I don't really know how that works,
48:18
Speaker 3: but I know, personally speaking, all I wanted to do
48:22
Speaker 3: was be heard, and I just wanted people to listen
48:25
Speaker 3: to me. Because if I'm saying it once and then
48:28
Speaker 3: in a few months I'm saying it again, and then
48:30
Speaker 3: in a few more months, I'm saying the same thing,
48:34
Speaker 3: listen to me, you know. And you know, whether the
48:37
Speaker 3: hormones are involved, or the name change and the gender
48:40
Speaker 3: identifiers is changed, that's a whole different story. But listen
48:44
Speaker 3: to the person that you're raising, because if you love
48:46
Speaker 3: them unconditionally, you will listen to them. And I think
48:50
Speaker 3: trust is a huge thing for a parent and a
48:52
Speaker 3: child or any relationship regardless. So it's about just listening.
48:58
Speaker 3: And I think you know there are it can be
49:00
Speaker 3: argued that you know you're going through a phase or
49:03
Speaker 3: whatever that's something that I heard when I was growing up.
49:06
Speaker 3: But if it's consistent and if it's authentic and genuine
49:12
Speaker 3: and they're feeling confident and gregarious in they're in what
49:16
Speaker 3: they're saying to you, then it's like, okay, so I
49:19
Speaker 3: have to take what you say to me and realize.
49:21
Speaker 1: That that's the okay.
49:23
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so open arms, you know, no judgment.
49:27
Speaker 2: Okay.
49:28
Speaker 3: Speaking of actually real quick Housewives of Salt Lake City, Yeah,
49:32
Speaker 3: Mary had that talk with her son. Did you see
49:35
Speaker 3: that scene?
49:37
Speaker 2: Heartbreaking?
49:37
Speaker 3: The first time I watched it, I was like, this bitch,
49:40
Speaker 3: speak up. Second time I watched it, I was like,
49:43
Speaker 3: she is such a great parent.
49:46
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you tell me why you had a change of
49:48
Speaker 2: heart the second time you watched it?
49:50
Speaker 3: I don't know. The first time I was just like,
49:51
Speaker 3: this kid is obviously going through it, like this is heartbreaking.
49:54
Speaker 3: And then the second time when I watched it, I
49:56
Speaker 3: think I watched it with a different lens because she
49:59
Speaker 3: was listening okay, and she wasn't judging, and she was
50:04
Speaker 3: having him and she wasn't she wasn't bullying him, she
50:09
Speaker 3: wasn't preaching to him, she wasn't being mama bear to him.
50:14
Speaker 3: She was being a friend, and I think it helped
50:17
Speaker 3: him open up a lot more. Yeah, and it was
50:19
Speaker 3: helpful because he literally opened the fuck up, and she
50:24
Speaker 3: was like, do you see this as a problem, like
50:26
Speaker 3: I want you like not saying like this is huge
50:30
Speaker 3: like whatever, Like she didn't.
50:32
Speaker 2: Feel like him right, and she wasn't. She wasn't like
50:35
Speaker 2: guiding him in one direction or the other. She sat
50:38
Speaker 2: there and basically let him know, I'm all ears, you
50:42
Speaker 2: tell me whatever you want to tell me, and then
50:44
Speaker 2: if you want me to together, we will take the
50:47
Speaker 2: lead on getting you whatever it is that you need.
50:49
Speaker 3: Yes, she wasn't, she wasn't putting words in his mouth.
50:52
Speaker 1: Correct, totally right like that.
50:55
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god. The second time around,
50:56
Speaker 3: I was like wow, like this is crazy, and also like,
51:00
Speaker 3: I mean, we know how it is lights camera action
51:03
Speaker 3: when you're in your bedroom. He probably was not feeling
51:05
Speaker 3: the best, but for I was like so raw right
51:08
Speaker 3: and like they're like two feet away from you, so
51:10
Speaker 3: like you're gonna feel it. But him like doing that
51:13
Speaker 3: is like crazy, And the way that she handled it
51:15
Speaker 3: was so amazing.
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Speaker 1: So I love her this season.
51:17
Speaker 3: I do too.
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Speaker 2: It's just so crazy how quickly you can like go
51:21
Speaker 2: from oh my gosh, I don't like this person to
51:24
Speaker 2: a single moment you're like, oh my god, I write
51:27
Speaker 2: so hard for this person. Ye shows how, but thank
51:29
Speaker 2: everybody is he is right? Yes, one moment can change
51:33
Speaker 2: it all.
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Speaker 5: That's why I like watching because I'm like, I don't
51:35
Speaker 5: like you, and then the next I hate the person
51:37
Speaker 5: I like, and then I like the person I hate it.
51:39
Speaker 4: I'm like this world win of a show.
51:41
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and going back. So I love what you
51:45
Speaker 2: just said. I also want to know, let's just say
51:48
Speaker 2: Ocean grows up and she is a straight female, how
51:54
Speaker 2: do I, as a parent who was also a straight female,
51:59
Speaker 2: allow my child to see what the world is and
52:05
Speaker 2: different sexualities and have her have a view that I
52:11
Speaker 2: have Because my mom didn't do anything specific.
52:14
Speaker 1: We're from Utah.
52:15
Speaker 2: We just kind of it was like nothing was a
52:18
Speaker 2: big deal, right, But because social media exists on such
52:22
Speaker 2: a high level and I can't control Again, she's only four.
52:26
Speaker 2: I can control what goes on in my household, but
52:29
Speaker 2: we got these you know, eighth graders talking about politics, right,
52:33
Speaker 2: I can't control what she experiences in school. Is there
52:37
Speaker 2: any advice that you could give to me or any
52:40
Speaker 2: parent on how to navigate dealing with.
52:44
Speaker 1: What this world? Do you get what I'm laying down.
52:48
Speaker 2: I want her. I don't want her to walk into
52:51
Speaker 2: the world, and I want her to be educated. That's basically.
52:55
Speaker 2: I want her to be educated and have a loving heart.
52:58
Speaker 2: For example, I have a friend and his name's Jared.
53:01
Speaker 2: I think you guys have crosspads. At one point in time.
53:05
Speaker 2: She's only seen Jared with no makeup on right. He's
53:08
Speaker 2: a gay man. He came over in full glam. We
53:10
Speaker 2: were going to the Paris Hilton suite, so he was
53:13
Speaker 2: looking fabulous.
53:14
Speaker 3: Oh fine, it was so much fun.
53:16
Speaker 2: And Ocean came up to me and she said, Mom,
53:20
Speaker 2: Jared's wearing makeup. She's never seen that before. She's four
53:23
Speaker 2: lives she's four, so she'll be four in March. So
53:26
Speaker 2: we had that conversation that boys can wear makeup, girls
53:30
Speaker 2: can wear makeup. We had the same type of conversation
53:33
Speaker 2: last night. She said, Mom, I want you to have
53:35
Speaker 2: a little boy, because Sosa and your little boy could
53:38
Speaker 2: fall in love and get married. And I said, siblings
53:41
Speaker 2: don't marry each other. And she goes, but boys and
53:42
Speaker 2: girls fall in love and they kiss, and I said,
53:44
Speaker 2: and sometimes boys and boys fall in love and kiss,
53:46
Speaker 2: and sometimes girls and girls fall in love and they kiss.
53:49
Speaker 1: She just sat there and said.
53:50
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, right, so there's things that are happening, yeah
53:54
Speaker 2: that I want to make sure that I'm on my game.
53:56
Speaker 3: Four Yeah, okay. Obsessed with her action. Okay, I think
54:01
Speaker 3: that's so fun. I love like the childlike lens. You know,
54:04
Speaker 3: they just see ship for what it is and it's like,
54:07
Speaker 3: why is that wrong? Though, Like there's no boundaries, Like
54:10
Speaker 3: they're unapologetic. It's one of my favorite things about kids.
54:13
Speaker 3: But also the scary thing about kids, because they will
54:15
Speaker 3: read you. They'll be like you're fat, you know, like
54:19
Speaker 3: they'll say shit and it'll hurt you. Yeah, they will hurt.
54:22
Speaker 2: It does hurt.
54:23
Speaker 3: Hippolote the about literally, No. I think the best advice
54:28
Speaker 3: that I have to I mean, I feel even weird
54:32
Speaker 3: giving you advice as a mom. I'm not a mom,
54:36
Speaker 3: but I've been around enough children. I think the best
54:39
Speaker 3: way to navigate them accepting people who are different than
54:43
Speaker 3: them is just instilling that it's not the difference. It's
54:46
Speaker 3: if you're a good person, Okay, you know, like it's
54:48
Speaker 3: not about like oh he likes him, or he's dating him,
54:51
Speaker 3: or he has makeup on It's like is he nice
54:53
Speaker 3: to you? Does he make yeah? Like does he make
54:58
Speaker 3: you laugh? Is your friend? Then you have to stick
55:01
Speaker 3: by your friend, Like if anyone saying anything else about
55:04
Speaker 3: him being with his boyfriend, then but do you like him,
55:08
Speaker 3: so you have to have his back, Like that's your friend,
55:10
Speaker 3: he's nice to you. I love such a sweet mommy,
55:14
Speaker 3: you really will.
55:15
Speaker 2: I love that it was so simple and like, yeah,
55:18
Speaker 2: you have said it perfect.
55:19
Speaker 3: But I feel like kids are like sponges. Like even
55:22
Speaker 3: I've been around like tons of kids who have been
55:24
Speaker 3: like why do you sound like that? Or what is it?
55:27
Speaker 3: What is that? Like just years and years of just
55:30
Speaker 3: weird shit, But when you break it down to them,
55:32
Speaker 3: it's like they just get it and they're on your
55:36
Speaker 3: side if you say it nice or whatever, unless they're
55:38
Speaker 3: like little shits, which a bunch of things are, But
55:40
Speaker 3: like a lot of the time, they just get it.
55:42
Speaker 3: They suck it up, and then like they absorb it.
55:45
Speaker 3: I mean they don't suck it up, they absorb the
55:46
Speaker 3: information and then from then on, like you are that
55:50
Speaker 3: person to them because you've told them in a very
55:53
Speaker 3: direct way in their eyes.
55:54
Speaker 4: They've sucked that information up and they've moved on.
55:56
Speaker 3: They person maybe really quick, and they'll have your back
55:59
Speaker 3: if you're eat to them.
56:00
Speaker 1: That's very true.
56:01
Speaker 3: But if you ignore them or weird, then they're going
56:03
Speaker 3: to turn on you.
56:04
Speaker 2: I had You're fucking so fun.
56:07
Speaker 3: Oh my god, love you guys. Oh my god, was
56:09
Speaker 3: that an hour?
56:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we're gonna do the bonus. Yes, love
56:12
Speaker 2: perfect do you guys? Gigi, thank you for coming.
56:14
Speaker 3: On to Give Them episod.
56:19
Speaker 1: Wow, that was like a really great episode.
56:21
Speaker 3: Right.
56:22
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so happy you're here. We need to hang out,
56:25
Speaker 1: like outside of the podcast. I need friends.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, thank you for listening to another episode
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Speaker 2: of To Give Them La La Podcast.
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Speaker 1: We will catch you next week. Bye.