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Big Stu-ey: Hey Skip (w/ Sal Licata) · Stugotz and Company

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Speaker 1: Sal Licata is with us, the Sal Licata Show, wherever
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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. I'm excited to speak with him today. Sal,
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Speaker 1: you're going to laugh at this. I didn't think anything
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Speaker 1: could put Taylor in a bad mood after the Knicks
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Speaker 1: raised a banner. He's been waiting his entire life to
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Speaker 1: see it. They are the defending NBA champions. It all
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Speaker 1: happened last night. I didn't think anything could put Taylor
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Speaker 1: in a bad mood today, but Brian Cashman somehow has
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Speaker 1: done the trick.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I understand it. They say nothing. I think
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Speaker 2: the biggest problem with the Yankees is that they don't
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Speaker 2: think they have a problem. That's an issue. It's not
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Speaker 2: only like, oh, well, what's the problem? Let's fix it.
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Speaker 2: It's like, hey, guys, how are you going to fix
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Speaker 2: your problem? They're like, what problem? We won 90 plus games. Like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: guys got hurt or something. You know what happens? The
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Speaker 2: offense wasn't very good, but they got hurt. Like Steinberg
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Speaker 2: is talking like they don't think they have an issue.
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Speaker 2: That's the main issue to me. They don't think they
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Speaker 2: have an issue.
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Speaker 3: Sal, the point I come back to all the time
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Speaker 3: is that Hal Steinbrenner was like George Steinbrenner's third choice
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Speaker 3: to run this organization. And every time Hal Steinbrenner opens
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Speaker 3: his mouth, you're like, oh, yeah, that's why his dad
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Speaker 3: didn't trust him. He says in his press conference, Aaron
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Speaker 3: Boone managed a good season. And the bottom line is
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Speaker 3: the players didn't live up to their end of the
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Speaker 3: bargain in the playoffs. We've been telling you the players
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Speaker 3: wouldn't live up to the end of the bargain this
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Speaker 3: entire time. And they're the only ones that are confused
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Speaker 3: by it when they're saying, oh, Brian Cashman constructed a
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Speaker 3: World Series championship caliber team.
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Speaker 2: No, you didn't.
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Speaker 1: The players didn't live up to it.
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Speaker 2: So let's extend the guy that brought in those players.
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Speaker 2: That's where you're going, Steinbrenner? That's exactly the point. So
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Speaker 2: he'll sit there. And then it's like, oh, well, what
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Speaker 2: about Cashman? Yeah, why wouldn't we extend Cash? He's great.
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Speaker 2: The game, well-respected in the game. He's been here 30-something years.
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Speaker 2: They win 95 games every year. We get into the postseason.
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Speaker 2: It just is not our year. Bad luck. No, you're
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Speaker 2: missing the point. I agree. It's not the manager. It is,
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Speaker 2: in fact, the players. However, how did you get those players? Like, well,
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Speaker 2: Giancarlo didn't play. Giancarlo hasn't played since 2018. And even
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Speaker 2: when he's the only player I've ever seen before that
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Speaker 2: even when he's healthy, he's not healthy. Like, oh, he's
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Speaker 2: healthy so he could, like, play the outfield and run
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Speaker 2: the field. Oh, no, no, no, no. He can't play
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Speaker 2: the field or run. He can't catch or throw a run,
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Speaker 2: but I mean healthy enough to swing the bat. Barely, barely.
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Speaker 2: Who put him on the roster? And why has he
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Speaker 2: still been on the roster all these years? Relying on
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Speaker 2: a 35-year-old Aaron Judge with a rib, a calf. It's
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Speaker 2: the roster construction. Having 15 different DHs, not having a
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Speaker 2: leadoff hitter. They just don't. Aaron Boone, this is a
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Speaker 2: true story, legitimate. Last year in the offseason, I was
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Speaker 2: doing my TV show and saying, the Yankees don't have
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Speaker 2: a leadoff hitter. Trent Grisham isn't it. Now, he hit
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Speaker 2: 34 home runs last year, but he failed in the postseason.
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Speaker 2: I get a call from Boone on the way home. Hey,
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Speaker 2: what's going on, Skip? How do you say we don't
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Speaker 2: have a leadoff hitter? Did you watch 34 home runs for–
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's great, but, like, he's not a
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Speaker 2: leadoff hitter. What about the postseason? And this was last January.
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Speaker 2: Guess how this season ended? With Trent Richum batting leadoff
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Speaker 2: in the postseason getting swept away. Like, they don't think
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Speaker 2: they have an issue.
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Speaker 1: Taylor, put it on the poll. Is it odd if
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Speaker 1: a baseball manager calls you and you pick up the
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Speaker 1: phone and call him Skip? Sal. I respect it, Sal.
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Speaker 3: Sal, this is my problem with this Yankee team. Just
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Speaker 3: because they're in these positions, the way they talk to
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Speaker 3: people and the way they talk to the media, they
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Speaker 3: make it sound like they are so much smarter than
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Speaker 3: everybody and their way is working. And it's like, okay,
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Speaker 3: if your way was working as much as you guys
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Speaker 3: portray it as... We wouldn't have one World Series appearance
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Speaker 3: in Aaron Judge's tenure as one of the best right-handed
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Speaker 3: bats ever. And then you have the, in spring training
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Speaker 3: last year, they say Ben Rice is a catcher. We
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Speaker 3: didn't see Ben Rice play an inning at catcher.
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Speaker 2: And guess what?
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Speaker 3: They're saying Luis Garcia is going to get some run
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Speaker 3: at second base next year, and he's not ruling out
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Speaker 3: third base as an option either. We are not going
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Speaker 3: to see Luis Garcia with position flexibility.
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Speaker 4: Ben Rice doesn't own a chest protector.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, that was another thing. I was
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Speaker 2: told last year, I'm like, what are you doing having
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Speaker 2: Ben Rice catch? He can't catch. Oh, no, what are
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Speaker 2: you talking about? Calls a great game. I'm like, what?
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Speaker 2: He's not a catcher. Fast forward to this year, Ben
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Speaker 2: Rice is not, in fact, a catcher. Like, I don't
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Speaker 2: understand how we can know more sometimes than the Yankees.
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Speaker 2: That is an issue. So, yes, when you, and you
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Speaker 2: bring in Garcia Jr., great bat, but we all said
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Speaker 2: at the time, well, where's he going to play? Like,
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Speaker 2: you already have a gluttonous amount of first base slash DH.
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Speaker 2: So you don't need that. You need somebody who can
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Speaker 2: hit like that, yes, but play a different position. And
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Speaker 2: then you're going to try to force him at third base,
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Speaker 2: learn a new position. No, it's the same old thing
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Speaker 2: with the Yankees. So I respect that they could say, well,
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Speaker 2: it's not Boone. It's not the problem.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 2: It's not. And the players are the problem. They are. Now,
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Speaker 2: how are you going to fix the people who put
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Speaker 2: the players together? That's the real issue.
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Speaker 1: Taylor, put it on the poll. Does catcher Ben Rice
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Speaker 1: own a chest protector? No. Or a catcher's mitt.
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Speaker 3: Like halfway through the season, they were like, he's still
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Speaker 3: in the meetings with the catchers. And it's like, why
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Speaker 3: is he in the meeting with the catchers? It's very
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Speaker 3: clear he's not going to play.
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Speaker 2: Sal, I was saying.
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Speaker 4: Because the DH room was too crowded.
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Speaker 1: All of you, stop! You hung a banner last night
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Speaker 1: in the Mecca!
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Speaker 3: We hung a banner in the NBA. That doesn't give
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Speaker 3: the Yankees this excuse to be this sorry franchise.
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Speaker 1: No, but there's no way after that evening, there's no
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Speaker 1: way you can come in the next day and be
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Speaker 1: this upset about Brian Cashman.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I can. because it's deja vu every October with
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Speaker 3: this Yankee team. And Sal, I was making the point
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Speaker 3: that he was saying, at least you're not the Mets,
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Speaker 3: and I was like, it's really apples to oranges comparing
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Speaker 3: the Yankees and the Mets right now. They both have
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Speaker 3: their issues. I'm wondering, you as a Mets fan, your
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Speaker 3: emotions watching Freddy Peralta Pitches way to the ALCS MVP.
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Speaker 2: Sickening. By the way, the Yankees should never compare themselves
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Speaker 2: to the Mets. What the Mets have done is near
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Speaker 2: impossible to do. Spend that much money and not sniff
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. That's the aberration. That's hard to do. So
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Speaker 2: the Yankees shouldn't be like, well, we make the playoffs
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Speaker 2: every single year. Some other teams don't. Yeah, that's the Mets.
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Speaker 2: They don't count. And not on top of that, not
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Speaker 2: only that, on top of that, you have Freddy Peralta.
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Speaker 2: Think about this. The team that traded Freddy Peralta... is
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Speaker 2: in the World Series. The team that ends up with
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Speaker 2: Freddy Peralta is in the World Series. And where are
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Speaker 2: the Mets? The Mets traded for Peralta, then they traded
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Speaker 2: them away, and they're home. And not only is he
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Speaker 2: good with the Brewers, awful with the Mets. Wins an
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Speaker 2: ALCS MVP with the Rays. Are you kidding me? That
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Speaker 2: is more embarrassing than trading away Pete Crowe Armstrong. Infuriating.
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Speaker 2: Good God.
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Speaker 1: The M in Mets stands for middleman. I mean, how
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Speaker 1: about that?
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Speaker 2: I mean, come on. Yes. At what point, like if
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Speaker 2: the Mets ever, if anybody needs to ever know that
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Speaker 2: the Mets are the problem, this is it. Like this
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Speaker 2: hits you straight over the head. They're the problem. Good
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Speaker 2: with the Brewers. Bad with the Mets. Great with the Rays.
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Speaker 2: Brewers-Rays World Series. Mets at home watching their guy that
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Speaker 2: they traded for pitch them to the world. It's unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: Sal, do you get worried, though, that David Stearns, the
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Speaker 3: Mets baseball executive, he's looking at this as almost like
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Speaker 3: a win because... His guy, Freddy Peralta, is the ALCS MVP,
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Speaker 3: and his former team that he helped build is the Brewers. Like,
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Speaker 3: I think Mets fans are embarrassed by David Stearns, but
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Speaker 3: David Stearns today is looking at it like, my process works.
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Speaker 1: Well, he's winning everywhere except for the place that he works.
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Speaker 1: But the Mets, in question, yes.
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Speaker 2: Wait, if I'm Stearns, I would probably say the same thing. Like, hey, look,
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Speaker 2: I built up the Brewers. They're good. I traded for Peralta.
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Speaker 2: He was good with Milwaukee. I traded them away. He's
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Speaker 2: good with Tampa. Clearly, the guy that I brought in
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Speaker 2: wasn't the problem. You got the problem. I'm out. See
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Speaker 2: you later. Maybe that's it. And that would make everybody happy.
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Speaker 2: Mets fans would love it if he left. But clearly,
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Speaker 2: the Mets have been the problem in this equation.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to J.J. McCarthy in a second, starting for
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Speaker 1: the Giants breaking news here. But before we get to that,
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Speaker 1: on a day again in which Taylor should just have
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Speaker 1: a smile on his face and be happy because he
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Speaker 1: waited for that moment his entire life. The other thing
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Speaker 1: besides Brian Cashman that upset Taylor was me having the
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Speaker 1: audacity to say the Philadelphia 76ers look fucking amazing.
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Speaker 2: Okay. I mean, I think Philadelphia is actually going to
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Speaker 2: hang a banner for that next week. I mean, good God.
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Speaker 2: The amount of Sixers fans that are like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Knicks are scared. No, no, no. I can assure you
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Speaker 2: that I slept. As a matter of fact, I did
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Speaker 2: lose sleep last night. I was going to say I
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Speaker 2: slept well, but I'm wrong. I did lose sleep last
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Speaker 2: night because I was scrolling for the championship merch all
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Speaker 2: night long to purchase. It's endless. The Knicks are champions.
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Speaker 2: And yes, Stu, you're right. Sixers look good. LeBron looks great.
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Speaker 2: He's the perfect thing for them to maybe get that team, maybe,
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Speaker 2: maybe get them past the semifinal round in the Eastern Conference,
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Speaker 2: finally for a change. But I would not worry about
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Speaker 2: the Sixers, and I'm just enjoying being a champion.
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Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about the Knicks being bad. I
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Speaker 1: just said the Sixers look good.
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Speaker 3: Sal, that was such an ugly game yesterday.
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Speaker 2: Right. So you're upset by it. Who cares? It's game one.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm not upset by it, but Stu came in
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Speaker 3: and he was ready to crown the 76ers, the Eastern
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Speaker 3: Conference Finals champions already.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's amazing what Embiid could look like on
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Speaker 2: game one versus game 21, maybe.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: You know, can the Sixers win a little? Sure. Can
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Speaker 2: Embiid stay healthy? I mean, that that I don't think
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Speaker 2: so so without Embiid there then it's LeBron a 40
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Speaker 2: you know whatever a 42 year old 41 year old
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Speaker 2: LeBron with Jalen Brown and Tyrese Maxey they're good but
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Speaker 2: I don't I mean and they might be the biggest
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Speaker 2: threat um I think the Knicks could still beat them
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Speaker 2: in the in the post so would you.
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Speaker 3: Would you be more surprised if this Sixers team is
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Speaker 3: healthy come the postseason or the Knicks make it back
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Speaker 3: to the finals.
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Speaker 2: I would be more surprised if the Sixers were healthy.
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Speaker 2: Because it's just Embiid, specifically. He's never healthy. Would you
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Speaker 2: be surprised if John Carlos Stanton were healthy for a
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Speaker 2: full season? Like... Embiid can't stay healthy. It never happens.
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Speaker 2: It's the same thing. So the Sixers fans getting sucked
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Speaker 2: in just like the Yankees. Well, we have Judge and
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Speaker 2: John Carl. Yeah, the problem is they don't stay healthy. Well,
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Speaker 2: we have Embiid and Maxie and now LeBron and Brown. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: but you can't factor in Embiid because he is never,
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Speaker 2: ever healthy when it matters the most in the postseason.
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Speaker 2: So that would shock me more than anything else.
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Speaker 1: I would sit Embiid for the entire regular season. I would, seriously.
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Speaker 1: Just have him healthy. Yes, guaranteed healthy for the postseason.
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Speaker 2: Yes. 100%, that's what they should be doing. I would
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Speaker 2: maybe play him sporadic. I'd definitely be watching his minutes.
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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you? All you have to do is get in.
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Speaker 1: Get in and have.
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Speaker 2: Him fully healthy. That's your best shot. Not trying to
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Speaker 2: have a higher seed and risk injury with him or
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Speaker 2: have the wear and tear on him.
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Speaker 1: Is it true that you said you feel like after
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Speaker 1: a loss, after last night's loss, the Knicks have a
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Speaker 1: better shot of repeating? Is that true? You said that
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Speaker 1: after a loss, yes?
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Speaker 2: It is. It is, and I'll explain it because... Okay,
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Speaker 2: first of all, you guys know I'm a moron.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel like that after a loss.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Yes. A lot of my thought process is, ah, law
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Speaker 2: of averages. Like, it's so hard to win one. And
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Speaker 2: I didn't expect that to ever happen. Do you really
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Speaker 2: think they're going to win two? And then I watched
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Speaker 2: the game, and I was like, oh, yeah. They're really,
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Speaker 2: really freaking good. So even if you say the Sixers
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Speaker 2: are better than the Knicks or the two teams in
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Speaker 2: the West, the Thunder or the Spurs, we all felt
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Speaker 2: that last year, right? A lot of people felt the
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Speaker 2: Spurs and Thunder were better than them last year. How'd
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Speaker 2: that work out? And even if it's a six, it's like,
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Speaker 2: at worst, the Knicks are still the fourth best team
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Speaker 2: right now in the NBA, which gives you a very,
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Speaker 2: very realistic chance to win. Plus, they have a group
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Speaker 2: of competitors. So, yeah, watching it reminded me just how
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Speaker 2: good they are and that it is very realistic, even
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Speaker 2: though it's unlikely, very realistic that they could repeat.
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Speaker 1: I like that spin because that was their C game
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Speaker 1: last night. They were not playing well. They looked out
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Speaker 1: of shape. They weren't terribly focused. Mikael Bridges looked like
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Speaker 1: he spent the entire offseason drinking. And so, yeah, so
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Speaker 1: I like that take, actually. Their C game, and they
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Speaker 1: were still in it at the end against the Sixers,
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Speaker 1: who were playing like a B-plus game. I like that, yes.
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Speaker 2: Who wanted to prove themselves, LeBron's first day, the Mecca,
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Speaker 2: banner night, all that stuff. So, yeah, I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: just such a long season. I hate to not react
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Speaker 2: to these things, especially in the NBA. Like, you'd love
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Speaker 2: to be able to end the champion Knicks, but in reality,
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Speaker 2: it meant nothing for the Knicks, sadly. You could hang
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Speaker 2: the banner, but the regular season results don't mean anything
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Speaker 2: until they get back to the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Are you surprised the Giants have gone to J.J. McCarthy
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Speaker 1: this quickly?
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Speaker 2: It's a great question. Here's why I'm not surprised. J.J.
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Speaker 2: McCarthy definitively gives them the best chance to win. The
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Speaker 2: only hesitation I had was, will Harbaugh just wait? Even
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Speaker 2: though he knows that, will he just wait? You know,
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Speaker 2: the Texans defense supposed to be really good. They now
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Speaker 2: have new life after beating the Jags and get themselves
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Speaker 2: a 2-4 after the 0-4 start. It's a tough spot.
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Speaker 2: and then the bye week following. So just the timing
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Speaker 2: of it, it's not about, wow, I'm surprised that they
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Speaker 2: made that move. It's if there were ever a time
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Speaker 2: to wait, it would have been against the Texans defense
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Speaker 2: with the bye week looming to just wait an extra
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Speaker 2: two weeks. But no, he definitively, J.J. McCarthy gives them
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Speaker 2: the best chance to win football games. And that's why
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Speaker 2: Harbaugh made that decision now.
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Speaker 3: Sal, wouldn't you agree that the way this Giants offense
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Speaker 3: was constructed this offseason, it was designed to take advantage
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Speaker 3: of somebody like Jackson Dart's mobility and You weren't getting
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Speaker 3: that with Jameis Winston, and at the very least, you
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Speaker 3: could try to replicate some of that game plan that
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Speaker 3: you had from before the season with somebody like J.J.
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Speaker 2: McCarthy. Yeah, it's why I love the trade. I'm not
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Speaker 2: a huge college football fan. I watch more now than
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Speaker 2: I have before, but I wasn't watching J.J. McCarthy at
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Speaker 2: times when he was at Michigan. And I didn't watch
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Speaker 2: him a ton. I saw some stuff with the preseason
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Speaker 2: with the Vikings, you know, before he got hurt. But
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Speaker 2: people were ripping McCarthy. For some reason, it feels like
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Speaker 2: they love to hate him. I love the trade when
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Speaker 2: they made it because of that. The ceiling with McCarthy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about a former topic. I'm not
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Speaker 2: there's no guarantees is going to be a stud. But
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Speaker 2: the ceiling with him is far greater than it was
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Speaker 2: with Jameis Winston. You're talking about you saw the way
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Speaker 2: that he threw the football in relief. throwing bombs down
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Speaker 2: the field against New Orleans, trying to bring the Giants back.
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Speaker 2: And then, yes, with his legs, that's just something Jameis
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Speaker 2: doesn't do. So being that he's a dual threat and
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Speaker 2: that athleticism alone can be a different weapon in the
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Speaker 2: offense to deploy that they just don't have with Jameis. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and like you said, maybe some similarities there in the playbook.
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Speaker 2: He's like a poor man's Jackson Dart for now, J.J. McCarthy,
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Speaker 2: and that's a good thing. When you lose your starting
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Speaker 2: quarterback for a full season, that's a good thing to
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Speaker 2: be able to have that. Sal, where are you at
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Speaker 2: with Aaron Glenn?
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Speaker 3: Because it felt like he had a big opportunity this
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Speaker 3: past weekend against the Patriots, and it was kind of
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Speaker 3: just the same story that you've come to expect when
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Speaker 3: the Jets make that trip to Foxborough, and then you
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Speaker 3: add on top of it the ball after halftime. where
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Speaker 3: it seemed like Aaron Glenn was pretty confused why the
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Speaker 3: Jets didn't start the second half.
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Speaker 1: He's just confused.
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't make too much of that quote. He tried
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Speaker 2: to clear it up afterwards. Forget the quote. The results
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Speaker 2: are god-awful. You guys saw the numbers. They've allowed 100 points.
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Speaker 2: They're losing 100 to 6 in between the end of
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Speaker 2: the first half and the start of the second, whatever
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Speaker 2: it is exactly. To me, Aaron Glenn lost me week
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Speaker 2: two against the Packers at home. They were up 10
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Speaker 2: points in the fourth quarter. It's a game you've got
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Speaker 2: to be able to win. He just didn't manage the
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Speaker 2: game properly. He uses his timeouts like it's 1990 still. Like, oh,
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Speaker 2: there's three minutes to go. Let's call some timeouts. Dude,
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Speaker 2: three minutes to go is like 30 minutes. Save the
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Speaker 2: timeouts until under two minutes. To me, Aaron Glenn, while
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Speaker 2: he seems like a very nice man and a good
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Speaker 2: leader of men in certain aspects, a former player, I
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Speaker 2: think he's clearly a coordinator. He is completely overmatched. as
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Speaker 2: a head coach I felt that way last year it
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Speaker 2: cemented my belief week two against the Packers it hasn't
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Speaker 2: changed in anything that I've seen even with the recent
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Speaker 2: yeah they're competitive sure they're better than they were last
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Speaker 2: year they're competitive he does not know what he is
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Speaker 2: doing as a head coach.
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Speaker 4: It's clear that Aaron Glenn is a great leader of men.
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Speaker 4: He just has no idea where he's leading them to.
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Speaker 4: He's just leading them around in circles.
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Speaker 1: Or which men he's leading.
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Speaker 4: And I would say that game was like the nail
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Speaker 4: in the coffin, but I'm pretty sure Aaron Glenn's coffin
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Speaker 4: is just nails at this point. It's been hammered so
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Speaker 4: many times.
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Speaker 2: It's just done. How many more nails do you need
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Speaker 2: to see? It's a great question because, shockingly, I know
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Speaker 2: sometimes I say things that will piss people off, But
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Speaker 2: saying Aaron Glenn is not a good head coach was
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Speaker 2: not one thing that I thought would upset people. And
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Speaker 2: it did. Somehow, Jet fans are like, oh, you give
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Speaker 2: him some time.
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Speaker 1: Oh, he's young.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you hate the Jets. Like, no. Give me a
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Speaker 2: tangible reason to believe that he's good. And if you
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Speaker 2: can't come up with one now, which you can't because
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Speaker 2: it's a trick question. There isn't one. What do you
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Speaker 2: need to see? Like, what do you need to see
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Speaker 2: to believe that he might be? Even like a little
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Speaker 2: semblance of he might be. And then even then, why
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Speaker 2: would it be okay? This is year two. Like- Give
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Speaker 2: me the tangible reason to think that Aaron Glenn could
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Speaker 2: be a even competent head coach at the NFL level.
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Speaker 1: Taylor, put it on the poll. Is it unfair to
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Speaker 1: ask a question where there is no answer?
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Speaker 2: Trick question.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing? If there's no answer,
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Speaker 1: then why are you asking people?
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Speaker 2: My cousin Vinny. Trick question. Trick question. There is no answer.
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Speaker 2: He can't.
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Speaker 1: There's no tangible reason.
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Speaker 2: Well, because of the Jets. That's not a reason to
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Speaker 2: say that he's good. I understand.
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Speaker 1: Just quickly on the way out here, at what point
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Speaker 1: can a Knicks fan start booing or being upset with
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Speaker 1: the Knicks? Is there a point in the season? Could
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Speaker 1: the Knicks arrive at any point in this season, 2-8,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, 5-15 to start the season, where Knicks
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Speaker 1: fans have the right to get upset at their team?
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Speaker 2: I personally, unless it's a lack of effort and you
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Speaker 2: clearly see that they're just not playing hard, lack of effort,
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Speaker 2: they got a pass from me. I don't care if
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Speaker 2: they're getting blown out, losing these games, the record, they
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Speaker 2: won a championship. I'm sorry, you wait 53 years for something?
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to move on from it after just
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Speaker 2: four months. It doesn't feel right to celebrate just four
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Speaker 2: months of winning. So they have the full pass from me.
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Speaker 2: But if it were a lack of effort, clear lack
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Speaker 2: of effort, then I could understand maybe some booing. Outside
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Speaker 2: of that, no way. All right.
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Speaker 1: That's fair. Spike Lee, he looked ridiculous last night, right?
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 2: Why is that different from any other Spike Lee?
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Speaker 1: You're right. Sal, we appreciate it. The Sal Licata Show,
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Speaker 1: We appreciate you doing it, man. We'll talk to you soon.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.
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Speaker 3: All right.