Latest / Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast / 💎 RHOBH Recap "These Men Are Gone"
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Drama Darling.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Drama Darling Drama Darling, Yello, what's up? Darling's okay. So
- 0:23Speaker 2: it is a Beverly Hills day, So welcome in, Deanna Chang,
- 0:27Speaker 2: Welcome in Beverly Hills. Kay, welcome in. Now, first things first,
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- 1:16Speaker 2: I am so excited. I'm going there for a podcast convention.
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- 1:35Speaker 2: pod Movement Chicago Evolution thing. So I'm going in there
- 1:39Speaker 2: for that, and then at the live show, Matt and
- 1:42Speaker 2: Jake and Mary Payne are going to make a special
- 1:45Speaker 2: guest appearance in the show. So it's going to be
- 1:47Speaker 2: super fun. So get your tickets, Starlings. Now we really
- 1:52Speaker 2: need to get into Beverly Hills and what happened? What
- 1:54Speaker 2: happened now? I don't know if you saw this, Diana,
- 1:57Speaker 2: But interestingly enough, after on the heels of last night's
- 2:02Speaker 2: episode and Mauricio finally mentioning the photos and mikinos we
- 2:06Speaker 2: have right here. Published March eleventh, Mauricio is seen making
- 2:10Speaker 2: out with the brunette at Chateau Marmont after near run
- 2:14Speaker 2: in with Lisa Renna and Erica Jane. Now page six
- 2:17Speaker 2: is reporting that he was seen with a mystery brunette.
- 2:21Speaker 2: As I said, and an eyewitness told the US Sun
- 2:26Speaker 2: they saw Umanski at the West Hollywood Hotel with two
- 2:29Speaker 2: women on Saturday night at the same time that Lisa
- 2:32Speaker 2: ren and Erica Jane were there. He appeared more interested
- 2:35Speaker 2: in one of the women. The source observed as video
- 2:38Speaker 2: footage taken from a nearby table showed the agency founder
- 2:42Speaker 2: and ceoed a small round table mingling with two female companions.
- 2:47Speaker 2: One of the women sat closely next to him, while
- 2:50Speaker 2: the other sat across from the pair. Now, first of all,
- 2:55Speaker 2: a couple things to say about this. Very delighted to
- 2:58Speaker 2: hear that Erica and Lee Sarna are hanging out, first
- 3:01Speaker 2: and foremost, so like, you know, let's give a shout
- 3:04Speaker 2: out to that. Secondly, I feel like this has been
- 3:07Speaker 2: going on for twenty years with him doing this type
- 3:11Speaker 2: of thing, you know what I'm saying, allegedly, And so
- 3:14Speaker 2: this is where I want to begin with the Mauricio
- 3:18Speaker 2: and Kyle. We need to start peeling this banana because
- 3:22Speaker 2: should yes, Deanna should should Kyle had been less protective
- 3:27Speaker 2: of Mauricio all these years? We may not be dragging
- 3:32Speaker 2: her so much right now by saying, well, why can't
- 3:35Speaker 2: we talk about Morgan and we can talk about Mauricio. Well,
- 3:39Speaker 2: because we weren't talking about Mauricio for so long and
- 3:43Speaker 2: the things that he may or may not have been
- 3:45Speaker 2: doing that interfered with their marriage. And what I'm saying
- 3:50Speaker 2: is there were all of these rumors about alleged affairs happening,
- 3:53Speaker 2: and I think that if that's true, Kyle really wanted
- 3:57Speaker 2: to put a quirk on it and say her marriage.
- 4:00Speaker 2: She was willing to do whatever it took to save
- 4:03Speaker 2: her marriage. And perhaps they've had in and outs about that.
- 4:06Speaker 2: And then you know cut too, she's had it up
- 4:10Speaker 2: to hear with it, and there was a last straw
- 4:13Speaker 2: and she decided to go and venture out and be
- 4:17Speaker 2: in a music video and have some sort of relationship
- 4:20Speaker 2: whether she wants to define it or not with Morgan,
- 4:24Speaker 2: and she's hiding a lot of what we've seen. She's
- 4:27Speaker 2: been hiding it. Obviously. We have been very like, why,
- 4:30Speaker 2: you know, Garcel brought it up? If we can talk
- 4:32Speaker 2: about Mauricio, why can't we just say, hey, you were
- 4:35Speaker 2: at a concert, we didn't know where you were going.
- 4:37Speaker 2: How is that? Like? What's up? You know? Why can't
- 4:40Speaker 2: we talk about it? Great point, But great point. We're
- 4:43Speaker 2: now in a real pickle because Kyla's protected him for
- 4:47Speaker 2: so long that she can't say too much about what
- 4:52Speaker 2: he's done as to why she decided to finally bolt
- 4:55Speaker 2: and retaliate and have her time and do whatever she
- 4:59Speaker 2: wanted to do. And then the other thing is her
- 5:02Speaker 2: sexuality is in question, and so why does she have
- 5:04Speaker 2: to answer to that. She's been holding on, waiting to
- 5:07Speaker 2: see if Mauricio will finally come back and say, hey,
- 5:10Speaker 2: you know, all these years of allegedly, you know, popping
- 5:15Speaker 2: around here and there mingling or not mingling, I now
- 5:19Speaker 2: realize being without you is the wrong thing, and I
- 5:21Speaker 2: want to be with you. Well, he didn't do that,
- 5:24Speaker 2: he didn't fight for them. So now she's like, well,
- 5:28Speaker 2: I was kind of waiting for you to come back,
- 5:33Speaker 2: even though I did make the cut, But you're the
- 5:36Speaker 2: one who had more of the cards than you thought
- 5:38Speaker 2: you did, because you could have won me back and
- 5:41Speaker 2: I would have just put this Morgan stuff aside and
- 5:43Speaker 2: come back to you. Now I guess I'll be with
- 5:47Speaker 2: a country singer. I mean, I guess that's what I'm
- 5:50Speaker 2: you know, that's what I chose for what I thought
- 5:52Speaker 2: was temporary. Now now I'm really going to be doing it,
- 5:55Speaker 2: you know. I just it's very complex. It is more
- 5:59Speaker 2: complex than I say we're getting credit for. And her
- 6:03Speaker 2: with Morgan, like it is hilarious to me that like
- 6:06Speaker 2: she's backstage and we're just not even mentioning that they've
- 6:10Speaker 2: been in a relationship forever, you know, and it's like,
- 6:12Speaker 2: we can't talk about it. And here Mauricio when they're
- 6:15Speaker 2: in this conversation and she's like those pictures, you know,
- 6:19Speaker 2: it's really hurtful. He's like, tell me about it, Like
- 6:21Speaker 2: I've been dealing with that for the last year. Points
- 6:24Speaker 2: to Mauricio. I totally get it because it's very public.
- 6:28Speaker 2: But his stuff in the past was buried, so wasn't
- 6:33Speaker 2: that public even though we kind of knew. So I
- 6:37Speaker 2: peeled some of the banana Dianna passing the banana over
- 6:40Speaker 2: to you.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Oh banana Dianna. God Amy, it's so true. I was.
- 6:45Speaker 1: I got clarity last night, you know, watching that scene,
- 6:50Speaker 1: that clinking of the coffee when we were in silence
- 6:54Speaker 1: and he was just simply stirring. It was, yeah, there
- 7:01Speaker 1: she is.
- 7:01Speaker 2: There she blows, and Kyle's like, am no, it's that picture.
- 7:14Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're nailing it. It's the one
- 7:19Speaker 1: piece that we're not factor I felt last night, Okay,
- 7:24Speaker 1: this is what we're not factoring in, because yes, what
- 7:27Speaker 1: you just painted is it. He's been doing whatever he's
- 7:31Speaker 1: been doing throughout the years, allegedly, but you know, at
- 7:36Speaker 1: this point even Kathy was like, we've seen him, you know,
- 7:39Speaker 1: there's been the I mean, if Kathy is saying that.
- 7:42Speaker 2: It is what it is, thank you.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we can lean back into it, right, you know.
- 7:51Speaker 1: And he's never denied it. He's never made a statement
- 7:58Speaker 1: to clear his good name, right, So you know, he
- 8:05Speaker 1: would have had that opportunity on the show to just
- 8:08Speaker 1: go like, these rumors are really hurtful and insane. And
- 8:11Speaker 1: maybe he did that with like, but he hasn't done it.
- 8:15Speaker 1: He hasn't really.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Done it to my knowledge. Yea, Okay, so.
- 8:20Speaker 1: He was doing his thing. Kyle was turning a blind eye.
- 8:25Speaker 1: She also was hurt by it, let's be real, Okay,
- 8:30Speaker 1: deeply hurt, but keeping tunnel vision, keeping making it work
- 8:36Speaker 1: for her in her head because of their love story
- 8:39Speaker 1: and because of her family and loving him period.
- 8:44Speaker 2: To keep a marriage together because her mother. That was
- 8:47Speaker 2: something that she said she prided herself on all these years,
- 8:50Speaker 2: was keeping this marriage together.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Yeah, she was. She was going to make it work. Yeah,
- 8:55Speaker 1: and then whatever he did, he went a bridge too
- 8:59Speaker 1: far and it was too painful, and she for the
- 9:04Speaker 1: first time said I'm going to show him how this feels. Right.
- 9:10Speaker 1: She met someone she did her.
- 9:14Speaker 2: And it was you know, I mean the video, you know,
- 9:17Speaker 2: and all the photos. Yeah, we're in it. You know,
- 9:21Speaker 2: it's happening.
- 9:22Speaker 1: We did it. We brought her to the best friend's funeral, this,
- 9:27Speaker 1: that and the other service you're you know, yes, memorial service.
- 9:34Speaker 1: So what she thought, I think was you've been doing X,
- 9:41Speaker 1: Y and Z. I'm gonna do X for a minute
- 9:46Speaker 1: and then you'll feel that and then and then we'll
- 9:50Speaker 1: ship me back together.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to try this out. I'm going to
- 9:53Speaker 2: have some fun.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Yeah. Guess who else can have fun? Right?
- 9:57Speaker 2: Guess who else can you know, make fun decision at
- 10:00Speaker 2: this age and have a great time. And that's just me?
- 10:04Speaker 1: Ye party, I mean she didn't. She's like sober by
- 10:07Speaker 1: five days to hear that was so dark.
- 10:12Speaker 2: It was one of the most immature things I've ever
- 10:15Speaker 2: heard an adult person say. That gave you a well
- 10:19Speaker 2: look into him and where he is and this midlife crisis. Fah,
- 10:25Speaker 2: I don't want you to lose your train of so
- 10:27Speaker 2: carry on.
- 10:28Speaker 1: So she had she and I think what she thought
- 10:31Speaker 1: is he's gonna get a little taste of his medicine
- 10:34Speaker 1: and then we will figure out we're going to come
- 10:36Speaker 1: back to zero and reconnect and go forward. I think
- 10:42Speaker 1: that's what without thinking it out that hard, because she
- 10:46Speaker 1: was also just in her she was moving, you know,
- 10:49Speaker 1: and act feeling yes h and and he was like,
- 10:56Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay bye. You know, he was like, which
- 11:01Speaker 1: shows where he's been at, because when you're stepping out
- 11:04Speaker 1: for that long.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Right or even allegibly allegedly.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Allegedly we can lean into it, but allegedly allegedly he
- 11:15Speaker 1: I think he did have one foot out the door,
- 11:21Speaker 1: and probably seeing her with Morgan, he was like.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Come out, Well, that's what a dick. I mean, I
- 11:28Speaker 2: just am so blown away at how much I dislike
- 11:33Speaker 2: Mauricio after all these years now and just him doing
- 11:37Speaker 2: whatever he wants, and I just would hate to be
- 11:40Speaker 2: married to somebody like that. It just was so clear.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I mean, that kitchen scene. I don't necessarily think he's
- 11:46Speaker 2: a bad dad. I think he's a great dad, and
- 11:47Speaker 2: I think they make a great family unit and they've
- 11:50Speaker 2: been doing a great job. But he just sees her,
- 11:54Speaker 2: at least at this point, and I mean I don't
- 11:56Speaker 2: know for how long, you know, as just like another
- 12:00Speaker 2: agency partner in this is just some sort of I
- 12:03Speaker 2: don't know. I don't mean to make it sound so cold,
- 12:05Speaker 2: but you know, he's clearly well her. This was so
- 12:12Speaker 2: for people who say that she doesn't share and that
- 12:14Speaker 2: she's not honest, by god, I mean, you know, look,
- 12:17Speaker 2: there there are corners of this, and yes are they
- 12:20Speaker 2: big corners that we're not getting into with this vacuum
- 12:23Speaker 2: and we're not getting into the dirt of it. Yeah,
- 12:25Speaker 2: I mean we're not calling, we're not putting anything on
- 12:27Speaker 2: the Morgan thing, we're not even mentioning it, like it's
- 12:30Speaker 2: not even there. It's it's weird, it's bizarre, it doesn't
- 12:33Speaker 2: make sense, but there are I'm willing to just as
- 12:37Speaker 2: we're picking this apart, I'm willing to absolutely give Kyle
- 12:42Speaker 2: all the benefit of the doubt and all of the
- 12:44Speaker 2: cars because of how what she's put up with with
- 12:47Speaker 2: him and now with her trying to figure out who
- 12:50Speaker 2: she is. I think she just needs to take as
- 12:53Speaker 2: much time as she needs to. And I don't really
- 12:55Speaker 2: care if it's the not okay with the viewers. I
- 12:58Speaker 2: just don't care. I mean I haven't for a long time.
- 13:00Speaker 2: But for them to be in this kitchen and courses there,
- 13:05Speaker 2: and then how is your trip. You know, they obviously
- 13:10Speaker 2: did somehow communicate. He must have apologized to her before
- 13:13Speaker 2: about the picture, clearly, but him for to be like, oh,
- 13:17Speaker 2: you know, it was a lot of spas, sound healing,
- 13:19Speaker 2: spiritual healing. I only partied like five nights at twenty five.
- 13:24Speaker 2: I'm like, this is like a kid that just came
- 13:26Speaker 2: home from spring break, you know, is talking to their mom.
- 13:30Speaker 2: That's what it felt like.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Totally a gross it's so is. It's an I lean
- 13:38Speaker 1: back gun, and this is to all the real estate
- 13:40Speaker 1: agents out there.
- 13:42Speaker 2: She's coming for you.
- 13:44Speaker 1: I'm coming for you right now. And this isn't going
- 13:46Speaker 1: to feel good. It doesn't feel good for me to
- 13:47Speaker 1: say it's my truth. It's not the best of me,
- 13:50Speaker 1: as I'm about to say it. Okay, it's not my
- 13:53Speaker 1: best color, all right. But these real estate agents are
- 13:59Speaker 1: so alpha, they're so hot, especially Los Angeles, especially the
- 14:09Speaker 1: agency that it's amongst do you know what I mean?
- 14:17Speaker 1: They want and they want They are fighting for their
- 14:22Speaker 1: wrong on the ladder. It's war. Who's getting these listings?
- 14:26Speaker 1: It is war, and so you've got a hot guy
- 14:31Speaker 1: leading the charge. It's just I don't know. I wouldn't
- 14:35Speaker 1: I'm a pretty secure gal and I would be struggling
- 14:40Speaker 1: drama darling.
- 14:42Speaker 2: There's Kyle is like the best of the best. She
- 14:47Speaker 2: is water off a duck's back. She when it comes
- 14:50Speaker 2: to like okay, I'm not talking about like her sisters,
- 14:52Speaker 2: and when you get into certain things, you can push
- 14:54Speaker 2: a button with her, you know whatever. Okay, So let's
- 14:57Speaker 2: water off, water in, Yeah, water in all like know,
- 15:00Speaker 2: Matt tankuf just like uh we did over with Vihan
- 15:04Speaker 2: on below deck. But you know, she is a very
- 15:10Speaker 2: cool girl. Like she's a cool girl. She can go
- 15:13Speaker 2: with the flow, you know, and so he has really
- 15:18Speaker 2: taken advantage of that over the years. And now here
- 15:21Speaker 2: we are when he says to her, you know, I
- 15:26Speaker 2: wanted to see this is the first This was a
- 15:28Speaker 2: very awkward trip. I was without the family and I
- 15:31Speaker 2: wanted to be alone. I wanted to see what this
- 15:33Speaker 2: looked like. And I'm like, yeah, he myself, I think
- 15:36Speaker 2: you've I think you know what that feels like. And
- 15:39Speaker 2: now you just have the permission to know what that
- 15:41Speaker 2: feels like. And he's like, look, you know, run around
- 15:44Speaker 2: and make last minute decisions. And I just thought, oh boy,
- 15:48Speaker 2: this is you know, that is every partner in every marriage,
- 15:51Speaker 2: you know, by the way, you know Kyle probably feels
- 15:55Speaker 2: the same way and has this whole time. You think that,
- 15:57Speaker 2: like families or couples that go together on a vacation
- 16:01Speaker 2: don't think themselves. Wouldn't that be nice if I could
- 16:04Speaker 2: just go by myself and not plan like this person
- 16:07Speaker 2: you have to deal with all that. So and the
- 16:10Speaker 2: fact that he finally, after all that time, mentioned the mikonos,
- 16:14Speaker 2: you know photos, He didn't want to hurt her, and
- 16:18Speaker 2: then she says, I know you wouldn't. I don't know
- 16:20Speaker 2: about the other person. That's obviously hard to see. And
- 16:23Speaker 2: he kind of starts to nod his head, like, well,
- 16:25Speaker 2: she would never do that, you know, I know that
- 16:28Speaker 2: was crazy, And she said, watch it was so intense,
- 16:32Speaker 2: and she says, we are separated, so we're allowed to
- 16:35Speaker 2: do what we want during this time, which is interesting
- 16:39Speaker 2: to me because when she did talk about in her
- 16:43Speaker 2: confessional or actually even with Bows at the beginning, she
- 16:47Speaker 2: didn't really know what she wanted to do. She was
- 16:50Speaker 2: just like, we're you know, she reacted, we're going to
- 16:53Speaker 2: get separated. And so for her to be out there
- 16:57Speaker 2: like they had to have had a conversation that means
- 17:00Speaker 2: we're separated, we can do whatever we want, you know.
- 17:02Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah I do. I got that. I mean that,
- 17:06Speaker 1: I got that. But here's the piece and I'm seeing
- 17:11Speaker 1: it with bo'se right now, and it's just it really
- 17:16Speaker 1: is a cautionary tale in general. It's like, you can't
- 17:21Speaker 1: stick your head in the sand. Yeah, you must ask
- 17:27Speaker 1: the questions. You must be real with the situation at hand.
- 17:32Speaker 1: And she has spent so much time like moving these
- 17:37Speaker 1: pieces around and shielding herself from whatever Moo's been doing,
- 17:42Speaker 1: I believe, making it Okay, So she's going, how did
- 17:48Speaker 1: we get here? Right?
- 17:50Speaker 2: That was the sadder thing. Yes, she said how did
- 17:54Speaker 2: we let this happen? That really broke my heart because
- 17:58Speaker 2: it's upsetting. I think that any couple that's together and
- 18:01Speaker 2: in love feels that way. How did we let this happen?
- 18:03Speaker 2: We were here in love, like, think about the beginning.
- 18:06Speaker 2: How did we get here? Well, that's the perfect example.
- 18:10Speaker 2: It's you know, it just it just would have ended sooner.
- 18:13Speaker 2: And that's the just gosh darn truth, right, because if
- 18:16Speaker 2: he wasn't willing to stop what he was doing along
- 18:20Speaker 2: the way, and then when it finally came to this
- 18:23Speaker 2: point of no return for Kyle, he still wasn't willing
- 18:28Speaker 2: to fight for them. Then it wasn't there to begin with,
- 18:32Speaker 2: and that is so hurtful to watch because she doesn't
- 18:37Speaker 2: deserve that, and I feel really sad for her. And
- 18:42Speaker 2: when she was in her confessional, I mean, it's so
- 18:46Speaker 2: obvious to us, but that despite that, it was so
- 18:50Speaker 2: interesting to watch her finally embrace and come to her
- 18:56Speaker 2: AHA moment. She said, the photos really did say to
- 18:59Speaker 2: me that he's moving on. And it would be very
- 19:02Speaker 2: easy for us to laugh and say, uh, yeah, where
- 19:06Speaker 2: have you been. But that's not that's not it. That's
- 19:09Speaker 2: not it. This is what she has been fighting for
- 19:12Speaker 2: and waiting for, and like she couldn't take anymore. And
- 19:16Speaker 2: she finally was like, this is what it is. He
- 19:19Speaker 2: I was living in la la land for so long,
- 19:21Speaker 2: and this is the hammer that hit my head and said, hello, Kyle,
- 19:25Speaker 2: he's moved on. It's okay. You're both entitled to live
- 19:30Speaker 2: your lives. And then for her to say everything we
- 19:33Speaker 2: built it's like a rug being ripped out from under me.
- 19:36Speaker 2: I mean, the feeling that it's awful, And then she
- 19:39Speaker 2: said she didn't expect her life to go in this direction,
- 19:42Speaker 2: of course, because she has been keeping these balls up
- 19:44Speaker 2: in the air for so long that why would you
- 19:46Speaker 2: expect for this to happen. But she chose herself, though
- 19:51Speaker 2: she at the end of the day, she chose her
- 19:53Speaker 2: and I'm really proud of her for doing that, and
- 19:57Speaker 2: I'm proud of her for showing that to us, you know,
- 20:01Speaker 2: even after all these years and to her daughters.
- 20:05Speaker 1: And when you say that, you mean, I mean, did
- 20:09Speaker 1: she have a choice?
- 20:10Speaker 2: Yeah, because herself, Because she could have continued to do
- 20:14Speaker 2: this over it.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I mean when they separated, got it? Yes?
- 20:19Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, when they originally separated, Yeah, she could
- 20:21Speaker 2: have continued to go. Don't you think it's weird that
- 20:24Speaker 2: we haven't heard at all what the thing was that
- 20:28Speaker 2: he did, the very thing that finally broke her trust
- 20:31Speaker 2: that couldn't be put back together.
- 20:35Speaker 1: I mean kind of, but she's kept so much under
- 20:38Speaker 1: wraps that not really you know, even just the way
- 20:42Speaker 1: she's putting it on this random girl in mikon No's like,
- 20:46Speaker 1: I don't know what she's up to. This is a
- 20:49Speaker 1: way to just allow him to wash his hands clean.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well she called the I mean she
- 20:59Speaker 2: she you called the paps, or one of her friends
- 21:02Speaker 2: called the paps. She was like, I'm going to be
- 21:04Speaker 2: picking up Mauricio, so you call the paparazzi, you know,
- 21:07Speaker 2: I mean that.
- 21:09Speaker 1: Pap life is beyond me. I don't. I can't pa,
- 21:12Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I can't get a handle on it.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Pap life in Maconos seems hard for me to you know, like,
- 21:19Speaker 1: who's where one eight hundred Micono's pap? Like, how do
- 21:23Speaker 1: you even know?
- 21:26Speaker 2: It feels like I'd be able to get an actual
- 21:28Speaker 2: paps mirror in makon Os faster than I'd be able
- 21:30Speaker 2: to paparazzi.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Yeah, a more direct line. Yeah, Yeah, you know it's
- 21:38Speaker 1: I think. I think Mo, when you allow someone to
- 21:44Speaker 1: treat you incorrectly, which is ultimate. I mean, listen, people
- 21:49Speaker 1: have also agreements and it can work for them. So
- 21:52Speaker 1: I don't want to insert my you know, but I
- 21:58Speaker 1: will insert mine. Yeah. It's like he had the first
- 22:04Speaker 1: time she gave him a taste of his medicine. Everything
- 22:11Speaker 1: she did prior worked for him. It all worked for Mo.
- 22:19Speaker 1: The second she deviated, it no longer worked for him. Yeah,
- 22:25Speaker 1: and he could go do you know? And he it
- 22:27Speaker 1: was no fight.
- 22:29Speaker 2: But there was nothing that was That's what's so disturbing
- 22:32Speaker 2: about it. I hate this for her.
- 22:35Speaker 1: That's why when you make a move like that, you
- 22:37Speaker 1: gotta be ready to go. Like it's like in any negotiation,
- 22:41Speaker 1: you know, you have to be ready to walk for real.
- 22:46Speaker 1: And I don't know that she was ready to walk
- 22:48Speaker 1: for real, and she wasn't. We're seeing that's exactly right.
- 22:53Speaker 2: She wasn't. But she made a small, I don't say
- 22:56Speaker 2: baby step because it was a big step to get separated,
- 22:59Speaker 2: to say should put her foot down. Even if she
- 23:03Speaker 2: wasn't ready to, she did it anyway, And I think
- 23:06Speaker 2: that's a great example of how sometimes even if we're
- 23:10Speaker 2: not ready, you make a move because it will eventually
- 23:15Speaker 2: catch up with you if it is in fact the
- 23:17Speaker 2: right thing for you deep down. And she did it
- 23:20Speaker 2: in very slow steps as she was saying to us,
- 23:23Speaker 2: as she was saying to Bo's like, she was, you know,
- 23:26Speaker 2: very she didn't know what she actually wanted to do,
- 23:29Speaker 2: so she had Yeah, Moe hadn't even like moved out,
- 23:34Speaker 2: and she wasn't really ready to leave. But then he
- 23:39Speaker 2: finally moved out and it was like okay, So then
- 23:42Speaker 2: it's just like taking that band aid off really slowly,
- 23:46Speaker 2: just oh.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Strangely slow and fast. Because the Morgan thing was like crazy,
- 23:52Speaker 1: Well we're looking at the tableau of it. Yeah, her
- 23:56Speaker 1: bringing Morgan on the show, on the show getting tattoos
- 24:02Speaker 1: is bonkers.
- 24:03Speaker 2: It's not.
- 24:04Speaker 1: This is but I think the other piece of it
- 24:08Speaker 1: is what we have heard her say is like she
- 24:14Speaker 1: doesn't want this fast lifestyle that Moe is into right now,
- 24:18Speaker 1: She's matured past it. She wants to live in the
- 24:23Speaker 1: woods and have a cabin. She doesn't want to be
- 24:25Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills. She wants to sit and read and
- 24:28Speaker 1: do hikes and be active. Like this is. Their things
- 24:33Speaker 1: are not aligned anymore so, and he is in no
- 24:39Speaker 1: way where she has seems, you know, made a lot
- 24:46Speaker 1: of compromises for him. It hasn't gone, it seems, in
- 24:53Speaker 1: any direction backed her way.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Absolutely not. It's only fast forwarded for him. It's only
- 25:00Speaker 2: sped up. You know. It's like it's he's almost like
- 25:02Speaker 2: getting he's just getting started now course.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he's all my jewelry is on, let's go,
- 25:13Speaker 1: you know, loaded up on the bracelets and the freaking necklace,
- 25:17Speaker 1: which looks good on him. He did look good to
- 25:19Speaker 1: me last night. I was like, damn it, Oh it
- 25:22Speaker 1: looks good.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks good. And you know what else looks good? Kyle,
- 25:25Speaker 2: Kyle looks great.
- 25:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:27Speaker 2: And and by the way, so when Bo's goes over
- 25:30Speaker 2: to Kyle's, this is before the conversation with Mauricio and
- 25:34Speaker 2: and they have this great scene and where I feel
- 25:37Speaker 2: like they connected, uh clearly as we all saw, which
- 25:40Speaker 2: is what Bo's wanted from Kyle and Kyle and bows
- 25:45Speaker 2: needed to get to some foundation. M hmm. And it
- 25:51Speaker 2: was really telling. It was like she basically said, you know,
- 25:54Speaker 2: I met you like right when Moe moved out, which
- 25:58Speaker 2: said to me, like, I didn't know you anything. I
- 26:01Speaker 2: was going through something insanely intense. So for me to
- 26:06Speaker 2: have not really opened up to you on a sidebar,
- 26:09Speaker 2: just so you know the timeline, just so you know
- 26:12Speaker 2: the timeline, that's where we were. And I thought that
- 26:14Speaker 2: was very important to say it is and I think
- 26:17Speaker 2: that Bo's maybe didn't really understand that. And then you know,
- 26:23Speaker 2: this was so intense about what bo said about her.
- 26:27Speaker 2: She was afraid to ask Peter for a divorce and
- 26:30Speaker 2: then they just separated one day and then she went
- 26:32Speaker 2: to go pick up Lael and then Layelle sorry, and
- 26:36Speaker 2: there was this woman there, she says, And then when
- 26:40Speaker 2: he was terminal in the hospital, she was like giving
- 26:42Speaker 2: him kisses and she's like, I lost my mind, and
- 26:44Speaker 2: I said, bitch, get out of here. That turn was
- 26:48Speaker 2: not what I expected on any level. No, I would
- 26:53Speaker 2: have lost my mind too. I mean, can you even imagine?
- 26:56Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, no, I.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Just didn't you.
- 27:02Speaker 2: I was anticipating her saying if it didn't work out
- 27:06Speaker 2: between us, these are his last days, and it seems
- 27:10Speaker 2: he's found someone who.
- 27:11Speaker 1: It has worked.
- 27:13Speaker 2: I thought that's the direction we were going.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Funny. I was quite startled, but but it was. It
- 27:21Speaker 1: was very revealing and also I think relatable. M hm.
- 27:29Speaker 2: And and you know, that's a really tough position to
- 27:32Speaker 2: be in, you know, you finally ask for a divorce
- 27:36Speaker 2: and then he gets terminal cancer. Oh my god, just
- 27:41Speaker 2: you know, and that I love that she said that
- 27:43Speaker 2: he was such a great father. And then it was
- 27:45Speaker 2: very clear that she has not brought any men around Lee,
- 27:50Speaker 2: and but for her to think that it's time with
- 27:52Speaker 2: Keely is like, this is where now I can't breat
- 27:56Speaker 2: my head around this, Deanna. This whole thing like I
- 27:58Speaker 2: love both a sigh from all of this stuff with Kihly,
- 28:01Speaker 2: But I don't really understand what's happening here.
- 28:07Speaker 1: You know, it's not good. It's truly unhinged. And this
- 28:13Speaker 1: is not how she does. This isn't even how she
- 28:15Speaker 1: does a girls trip, which is thought out and planned
- 28:18Speaker 1: and organized. Like, what she's doing is truly unhinged, and
- 28:25Speaker 1: she does need a friend to step in and have
- 28:28Speaker 1: her pumped the brakes. Her daughter is asking more questions
- 28:32Speaker 1: and more getting more information out of her boyfriend than
- 28:37Speaker 1: she's doing. She her head is so far in the sand.
- 28:41Speaker 1: She's barreling towards something she wants without any indication that
- 28:52Speaker 1: this is correct. It's it is wild.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Is there some sort of thing that she is doing
- 29:01Speaker 2: behind the scenes that we're not aware of that we know?
- 29:06Speaker 2: I don't think so, I just don't know.
- 29:08Speaker 1: I do not. This is like I think she is
- 29:14Speaker 1: to find the right pairing for her, someone who's ready
- 29:18Speaker 1: to step in with this powerhouse of a person, this
- 29:21Speaker 1: accomplished woman. You know, I think she thinks this is
- 29:27Speaker 1: her last boat out and she's jumping on it despite
- 29:35Speaker 1: any of the steps that are not like in place,
- 29:39Speaker 1: but like last boat for children, you mean last boat.
- 29:44Speaker 1: I just think last boat for relationship. That's even like
- 29:48Speaker 1: that is the craziest thing.
- 29:50Speaker 2: That's like, I don't understand. It's bananas. It makes zero sense.
- 29:57Speaker 2: You know, it's like murder trying to merge two companies
- 30:02Speaker 2: but they're personal and she's almost doing it as as
- 30:07Speaker 2: a business. But like you said, it's not at all
- 30:10Speaker 2: orchestrated in the way that she works because it's personally.
- 30:13Speaker 2: I can't imagine treating it like that.
- 30:15Speaker 1: She's treating it like business but not approaching it, like
- 30:20Speaker 1: she said something about like believing in love despite all
- 30:24Speaker 1: you know, So she's just she's yeah, she's trying to
- 30:29Speaker 1: conduct a merger without doing the due diligence that she
- 30:32Speaker 1: would do in business.
- 30:35Speaker 2: I don't understand it. And so for l'elle to be like,
- 30:41Speaker 2: so do you think you guys will live together before
- 30:42Speaker 2: you get married, and he's like, well, I have done that,
- 30:45Speaker 2: you know, but in this case, I will probably wait
- 30:48Speaker 2: until there's an engagement and for you guys to have
- 30:52Speaker 2: a conversation first, and then Leelle says, and would you
- 30:56Speaker 2: get a place or move into one of yours? I mean,
- 30:58Speaker 2: this is like stuff that You're parents might ask you,
- 31:02Speaker 2: you know, when you're getting married at you know, twenty one, like,
- 31:07Speaker 2: are you guys, what are you? What is your plan
- 31:10Speaker 2: here kids? Because you're very young. You don't know what
- 31:12Speaker 2: you're doing. You're not ready for kids. This is not
- 31:14Speaker 2: a good idea. You know, where do you plan on going?
- 31:17Speaker 2: How are you going to afford your rent? This is like,
- 31:19Speaker 2: this is what it's giving. And I don't know, but
- 31:25Speaker 2: Bo saying I've never brought men around Layel because I
- 31:27Speaker 2: didn't think they could measure up Akille does. I don't
- 31:30Speaker 2: know about that. I'm worried.
- 31:33Speaker 1: So I don't know about Kihlee. I can't even accurately
- 31:37Speaker 1: assess him. He seems fine, you know, he seems perfectly fine.
- 31:46Speaker 1: I think that we're just not there, you know, simply put,
- 31:53Speaker 1: this is the cart before the horse on steroids.
- 31:56Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, Well, we're going to take a quick
- 32:01Speaker 2: break and then we're gonna come back and talk Beverly Hill.
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- 35:38Speaker 2: so we are back talking Beverly Hills. Let's pop over
- 35:41Speaker 2: to the beginning where we're at Erika's house with Turit
- 35:44Speaker 2: and Bows and Bow's. You know, she's planned this trip
- 35:46Speaker 2: to Saint Lucia and she brings them bathing suits and.
- 35:50Speaker 3: Derek's like, come in, come in, look at my lovely
- 35:53Speaker 3: all these bathings. Then I ans save and Dury It's like, wow,
- 35:58Speaker 3: I haven't been here so long. And then she's just
- 36:01Speaker 3: you know, wandering aimlessly around the house. And it was
- 36:06Speaker 3: so funny because Bo's was like, yeah, with these bathing suits,
- 36:09Speaker 3: there's gonna be a real fashion show there. I mean,
- 36:12Speaker 3: I didn't mean to say it like that because she's
- 36:13Speaker 3: like sliding suttons.
- 36:14Speaker 1: But Eric, Beverly Beach bathing suits.
- 36:21Speaker 2: No, no, no, God, Beverly Beach. I don't think that's
- 36:24Speaker 2: anywhere to be found. We're not in production, no, And
- 36:28Speaker 2: I did think about that when I saw those, and
- 36:30Speaker 2: I was like, you know, Dorry can't say anythings, just
- 36:33Speaker 2: don't have a line, So it doesn't.
- 36:35Speaker 1: I would love to.
- 36:36Speaker 2: But the way Erica popped off about that bathing suit
- 36:40Speaker 2: color way, I seen that. Thank you for acknowledging that I.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Ever seen that energy from her before.
- 36:50Speaker 2: It must be just the most fashion forward color trend
- 36:57Speaker 2: that you're only seeing if you are on the in
- 37:00Speaker 2: side of the fashion world, Like that's the next color
- 37:02Speaker 2: trend or something like that, that orange Sherbert. I don't know.
- 37:08Speaker 1: It was quite a reaction never seeing her light up
- 37:12Speaker 1: like that. Ye ever seen her find find it like that?
- 37:16Speaker 2: You know, receive that gift?
- 37:19Speaker 3: So well, yeah, oh you don't get me those colors?
- 37:23Speaker 1: Wow?
- 37:24Speaker 3: And before they even know it.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very odd. Yeah, So then we talk.
- 37:32Speaker 2: Erica is so funny because it's like every once in
- 37:35Speaker 2: a while she'll try to bring up how she was
- 37:38Speaker 2: just dragged for two years by these ladies, you know,
- 37:43Speaker 2: and I mean, look, I don't. I don't think we
- 37:45Speaker 2: need to. It was just a completely different scenario. I
- 37:49Speaker 2: don't think the example applies to anything, doesn't. Okay, that
- 37:55Speaker 2: of her tits, Okay, she is out of her tits
- 38:00Speaker 2: to think that, like nobody should ask her a question
- 38:04Speaker 2: about that.
- 38:05Speaker 1: I mean, truly buckwild.
- 38:09Speaker 2: With her behavior, right, And the only reason why Dee
- 38:14Speaker 2: agreed with it is because it's going against Sutton, you
- 38:18Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Because even Durrett's face in that
- 38:21Speaker 2: conversation was like, you can't really be saying this, because
- 38:25Speaker 2: Eric was like, hold on a second.
- 38:29Speaker 3: Eric was like Sutton having that reaction to you mentioning
- 38:33Speaker 3: a drinking what about what was done to me?
- 38:37Speaker 2: And then she just goes on about how it was
- 38:40Speaker 2: the lowest part for her life. Yeah, and Durry it's like, uh, right, yes,
- 38:49Speaker 2: you're against Sutton. Whatever you're saying, I agree, you know.
- 38:52Speaker 2: It's just like she just wanted to co sign no
- 38:54Speaker 2: matter what. Oh my gosh, so funny, you know. So
- 38:59Speaker 2: then we pop over to Sutton's house with Garcel and
- 39:02Speaker 2: they're having an opposite conversation about, you know, everything that
- 39:05Speaker 2: they're talking about at the Ericas, and they're laughing talking
- 39:08Speaker 2: about how Kathy was fashioned roadkill, and Garcel tells Sutton
- 39:13Speaker 2: about her lunch with Dart and then they're laughing at
- 39:17Speaker 2: They're like, well, how come you know Dart and Kyle
- 39:19Speaker 2: are like best friends again, and all this stuff. Well,
- 39:22Speaker 2: Garcel really takes to her confessionals and she will she'll
- 39:26Speaker 2: strip a bit, you know, she'll strip anyone left and right.
- 39:30Speaker 2: She doesn't care. She's gonna say it whether it's her
- 39:32Speaker 2: bestie or her enemy. And I have to respect that.
- 39:37Speaker 1: Hats off. Like she did get everyone all the way together,
- 39:41Speaker 1: and those confessionals.
- 39:42Speaker 2: Everything person she has checked down to their studs and
- 39:46Speaker 2: these confessionals.
- 39:49Speaker 1: It was important to just like, yeah, Sutton to get
- 39:55Speaker 1: clear about Sutton's thirst for Kyle was nice.
- 40:00Speaker 2: I mean it is. I didn't really clock it and
- 40:02Speaker 2: I needed right. She really put it together for us.
- 40:06Speaker 1: She did. She was like she says, you know, Kyle's
- 40:09Speaker 1: not going to do this, that and the other. And
- 40:11Speaker 1: Sutton's clearly afraid.
- 40:13Speaker 2: Wow, which says a lot, because she's not afraid of
- 40:17Speaker 2: much at all.
- 40:20Speaker 1: I mean, Sutton started out so strong this season and
- 40:25Speaker 1: I don't know, Amy Phillips, Yeah, it's started to feel
- 40:30Speaker 1: I'm worn down by it.
- 40:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Deirit and Sutton thing is ridiculous.
- 40:36Speaker 2: It's built on twigs and dust. I don't know what
- 40:41Speaker 2: we're talking about. I don't care at this point somehow
- 40:45Speaker 2: Dete's winning for me and I don't even know how
- 40:48Speaker 2: that's happening. Yeah, you know what I mean, right, Yes,
- 40:51Speaker 2: I don't even know how she got that win. It
- 40:53Speaker 2: was like no, somehow the ref was like, you know,
- 40:59Speaker 2: blew the whistle and was just like handed her the
- 41:01Speaker 2: ball and she's had the ball ever since. And here
- 41:05Speaker 2: we have Sutton just I don't know.
- 41:08Speaker 1: I think it's because like she's unbothered, is why she
- 41:13Speaker 1: has the win, Like Dorrit's not bothered by Sutton, and
- 41:17Speaker 1: Sutton is consumed with do so even with Dorrie calling
- 41:22Speaker 1: me poor, which is what she I'm sorry, Sutton calling
- 41:25Speaker 1: me poor, which is what she did. And you and
- 41:28Speaker 1: all the listeners and everyone we got we all got
- 41:31Speaker 1: slammed at that lunch. I'm still siding with Dorrie, you know?
- 41:40Speaker 1: Or does that make sense? It does? Wait? Does you
- 41:44Speaker 1: know that is why I'm siding with her? I lost
- 41:46Speaker 1: my way but because I lost, Yeah, forget that. But
- 41:53Speaker 1: but tea.
- 41:55Speaker 2: Team despite it all, despite it all, and you know,
- 42:01Speaker 2: basically they also mention about how they can't talk about
- 42:05Speaker 2: Garcel's like how come we can't say anything about Morgan?
- 42:08Speaker 2: And Sutton suggests maybe bringing up the Morgan at the
- 42:11Speaker 2: concert stuff and all that in a positive way so
- 42:14Speaker 2: as to not have her be reactive. And I actually
- 42:18Speaker 2: think that's a great idea, you know, I mean, you
- 42:20Speaker 2: should always approach somebody in that way, because you're never
- 42:24Speaker 2: going to get a good end result if you're going
- 42:26Speaker 2: to come at them and be like, why aren't you
- 42:27Speaker 2: telling us about Morgan? But then Garcel says, ah, kit gloves,
- 42:33Speaker 2: which is I was like, it's kid gloves. She said
- 42:38Speaker 2: kit didn't she?
- 42:40Speaker 1: You know, I let it. I accepted it. It is
- 42:44Speaker 1: kid gloves. But to say that so boldly on national
- 42:49Speaker 1: tell of it and it washed over me. But that's
- 42:52Speaker 1: really funny, and I was like.
- 42:53Speaker 2: Wait what But you know, I you know, sometimes some
- 42:56Speaker 2: people don't like we don't get we don't even know
- 42:59Speaker 2: what the expression is or what it means what happened.
- 43:02Speaker 2: But it is kid gloves.
- 43:05Speaker 1: It definitely is kid glob.
- 43:06Speaker 2: So but why don't we why don't we talk about
- 43:12Speaker 2: we we got to talk about Derey and PK at Drake's.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay. So they get welcomed in by the way,
- 43:20Speaker 2: they were like welcome in and it looks like the
- 43:23Speaker 2: same place they were last time. You know because they're
- 43:26Speaker 2: always in that you know, half Moon Booth from like
- 43:30Speaker 2: the sixties, I don't know, like just some lounge and
- 43:35Speaker 2: they're back somewhere. We're back in a half moon Yeah,
- 43:39Speaker 2: back in half Moon booth. And this is so wild,
- 43:43Speaker 2: Like Deanna, the circles that he's running around her are
- 43:48Speaker 2: unbelievable and I am just She's just sitting here going,
- 43:53Speaker 2: I just want an answer, did you mean it a
- 43:56Speaker 2: divorce or not? And him trying to spin this to
- 44:01Speaker 2: not telling her that he's going to divorce her, to
- 44:06Speaker 2: saying like if we could just be friends, we got
- 44:08Speaker 2: to work on a friendship first, and then if we're
- 44:11Speaker 2: like that for six months, then then we get a divorce.
- 44:15Speaker 2: It's like you just you're saying everything but saying you
- 44:19Speaker 2: want a divorce because you're trying to not have her
- 44:22Speaker 2: be angry at you and take you down with her lawyer.
- 44:29Speaker 2: He is trying so hard to suppress her by gaslighting
- 44:33Speaker 2: her and not telling her the truth. It is unbelievable.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Watching this right.
- 44:41Speaker 1: Gets me together. You're getting me together. Amy, Even though
- 44:44Speaker 1: I got I got that, I wouldn't be able to
- 44:47Speaker 1: articulate it like that. And your PK is startlingly good.
- 44:53Speaker 1: I'm kind of my hars kind of I felt like
- 44:57Speaker 1: I was getting told by PK something that was crazy.
- 45:01Speaker 2: He has brushed her off and he's just showing up
- 45:04Speaker 2: at this meeting because this is on the agenda and
- 45:08Speaker 2: the work he has to do to get what he
- 45:09Speaker 2: wants out of this divorce period. Dot. It's unbelievable the
- 45:14Speaker 2: words he was using. It was wild to watch this episode,
- 45:18Speaker 2: in particular seeing Kyle not wanting to really want to
- 45:22Speaker 2: lose their marriage and Dey both of them equally gone
- 45:27Speaker 2: so gone.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Never seen two men so gone, like gone, baby gone.
- 45:33Speaker 1: They are not here, They're not in the building.
- 45:36Speaker 2: And willing to show up to say that they're gone,
- 45:39Speaker 2: and they're.
- 45:40Speaker 1: Like, Hi, yeah, Mike me up, I'm done. Yeah, you
- 45:43Speaker 1: know right right up. He really got her and manipulated
- 45:52Speaker 1: her when he said you're my best fucking mate. Oh
- 45:55Speaker 1: you saw that hit.
- 45:57Speaker 2: Yep, which means you're not telling me that you're the
- 46:00Speaker 2: love of my life and the mother of my children
- 46:03Speaker 2: and you want to fight for our marriage. That's not
- 46:04Speaker 2: at all what you're saying. You're saying you're my best
- 46:08Speaker 2: friend and I need you to behave yourself right. So
- 46:12Speaker 2: that we can have shared custody and you won't take
- 46:16Speaker 2: me to the cleaners and take everything I've got and
- 46:19Speaker 2: get whatever that whole custody. She wants to know, like
- 46:23Speaker 2: why he sent this email, and he's like, oh, we're
- 46:25Speaker 2: going to talk about you know what you're saying in
- 46:28Speaker 2: the email, or we're going to talk about only part
- 46:30Speaker 2: of it, or how you made me feel, because if
- 46:35Speaker 2: we don't resolve this, you know, we're not gonna it's
- 46:39Speaker 2: not going to end well. And that's what I'm saying
- 46:41Speaker 2: in this email. If we don't get this together, we're
- 46:43Speaker 2: gonna it's not going to be good. And then she's like, well,
- 46:47Speaker 2: but you told me to get a lawyer. And he's
- 46:49Speaker 2: like because we got communicate and she's like, well, I'm
- 46:52Speaker 2: trying to communicate with you, yeah, but you need to
- 46:55Speaker 2: get a lawyer. It's like, well, why would I get
- 46:57Speaker 2: a lawyer if it's not a divorce. You know, he's
- 46:59Speaker 2: just continue to put he up against a what And
- 47:02Speaker 2: she's like, but you retained a lawyer and you're like,
- 47:04Speaker 2: a way before I even knew that was even a possibility,
- 47:07Speaker 2: or one hundred steps ahead of me, did you at
- 47:09Speaker 2: any point want a divorce. I mean, she is asking
- 47:11Speaker 2: the right questions and he is just skirting around, saying like, uh,
- 47:16Speaker 2: you know, can end a marriage rather you know, you know,
- 47:19Speaker 2: you don't bring out the best in me. So that's
- 47:21Speaker 2: why it's ending, Deree, you bring out the worst in me.
- 47:25Speaker 2: So the thing is, you've got to be a friend.
- 47:29Speaker 2: We've got a coult parent. We gotta keep got to
- 47:31Speaker 2: keep it loving and kind. We have to, you know,
- 47:33Speaker 2: work for the relationship. We've got to get back and
- 47:36Speaker 2: we gotta find that friendship again so we can be
- 47:38Speaker 2: two people living two separate lives, not married. So are
- 47:44Speaker 2: you saying you want a divorce? I'm saying we've got
- 47:47Speaker 2: to be Dori. Are you listening. I'm saying we've got
- 47:50Speaker 2: to be best friends. We've got to be mates. But
- 47:53Speaker 2: are you saying a divorce and we live separately and Dori,
- 47:58Speaker 2: we don't get it together, it's gonna end badly. Do
- 48:02Speaker 2: you hear me. I'm gonna send another email. I'm gonna
- 48:05Speaker 2: get another booth. I'm gonna get another phone in the
- 48:07Speaker 2: GRONI We're gonna go in that booth. We're gonna talk
- 48:11Speaker 2: about again. It's not working. To read this see this
- 48:14Speaker 2: this is the worst to me. If you want the
- 48:17Speaker 2: best of me, you won't take any of my money,
- 48:20Speaker 2: you won't take my kids, you won't take my house.
- 48:23Speaker 2: I'm living in an apartment. Do you know how humbling
- 48:26Speaker 2: that is for bloke like me trying to take ladies
- 48:29Speaker 2: back to a little apartment. It's horrible to read. So
- 48:33Speaker 2: are you saying we should be living separately and be
- 48:37Speaker 2: seeing other people to read? You're making a mockery of
- 48:40Speaker 2: my words. That's what it felt like.
- 48:44Speaker 1: Wow, Amy, this is like award winning. Thank you so
- 48:49Speaker 1: much for that show. Thank you for that show. I
- 48:53Speaker 1: needed it. You have got Peakey down his psycle, not
- 49:00Speaker 1: only the impression, but you really have his whole stikla down,
- 49:06Speaker 1: like what he's trying to pull here.
- 49:07Speaker 2: Now we see how he does business, you know what
- 49:10Speaker 2: I mean? Like that's how he does business.
- 49:14Speaker 1: Jerie looked very beautiful in that scene, and I will say,
- 49:18Speaker 1: coulduce to her for that? You know whether she she
- 49:22Speaker 1: has no sense of what's going on, but she did
- 49:25Speaker 1: look quite beautiful.
- 49:26Speaker 2: And honestly, can you blame her now? I mean, after
- 49:29Speaker 2: we saw this, can you blame her? She's in a
- 49:31Speaker 2: freaking tornado. Pique Tornado. He's wishing her around, and that's
- 49:34Speaker 2: why she needs friends like Erica to say to her
- 49:38Speaker 2: and bows and that must No, he's saying this, he's
- 49:43Speaker 2: telling you this, but he's actually saying this. You need
- 49:46Speaker 2: to read between the lines, and that's where she's just
- 49:49Speaker 2: getting boumboozled.
- 49:50Speaker 1: So, I mean, it just does also seem like how
- 49:56Speaker 1: why does she want to be with him?
- 49:58Speaker 2: But I know, put that over the side, you know. Yeah,
- 50:01Speaker 2: I have a lot of questions about that. I guess
- 50:03Speaker 2: we'll deal with that another time. But yeah, why don't
- 50:06Speaker 2: we talk about their travel day and you know, going
- 50:09Speaker 2: to Saint Lucia and obviously they're all going to get
- 50:12Speaker 2: there going in different places from different areas because Kathy's
- 50:16Speaker 2: going to fly private. I'm guessing because she wasn't on
- 50:18Speaker 2: that plane with them, right or was she?
- 50:20Speaker 1: I couldn't figure it out her with the laundry and
- 50:24Speaker 1: the laundry bags, no brazier, I mean, no undergarment mood whatsoever.
- 50:29Speaker 2: And it's very see through for her.
- 50:32Speaker 1: This is what you get to do when you're Kathy
- 50:35Speaker 1: Goddamn Hilton. You hit a point where you're titty going
- 50:38Speaker 1: to be out in a moon moot with laundry bats
- 50:41Speaker 1: and that's great. It's something to aspire to.
- 50:46Speaker 2: Quite frankly, you guys, she literally had a sack like
- 50:51Speaker 2: a white linen sack sack with a string as a
- 50:57Speaker 2: as a carrier around her shoulder that looked like it
- 51:00Speaker 2: was stuff with sheets coming off of that plane. Good,
- 51:05Speaker 2: you know, now what's going? What is she doing? You
- 51:08Speaker 2: gotta love it? And then Kathy uh, and then Jennifer
- 51:12Speaker 2: with her designer luggage and that vintage jewelry case that
- 51:17Speaker 2: Erica Jane could not get over salivating.
- 51:21Speaker 1: We do need those two to have like a lunch
- 51:24Speaker 1: or something, or Erica just to go over to Tilly's
- 51:26Speaker 1: house and do a one on one.
- 51:28Speaker 2: I hope that they can connect further, because they really do.
- 51:31Speaker 2: I mean, if Erica could wear Jennifer Tilly's skin, I
- 51:34Speaker 2: think she would because you know, she is just chomping
- 51:37Speaker 2: at the bed because the way that she has this
- 51:39Speaker 2: stuff is amazing.
- 51:41Speaker 1: She really can. You know, it's it's her former life
- 51:46Speaker 1: and it's crazy. It is crazy to watch.
- 51:49Speaker 2: It is Deanna. It is so Sutton uh wait no, sorry,
- 51:55Speaker 2: so Saint Lucia and not sudden Saint Lucia. Bo's is like,
- 51:59Speaker 2: this was a funny edit from the producers. She's like,
- 52:02Speaker 2: We've got the ocean, We've got a band, we have
- 52:04Speaker 2: delicious cocktails. Cut to Sutton drinking because it's like not
- 52:08Speaker 2: only the drinking thing, but she hated those drinks at
- 52:12Speaker 2: Duri's house.
- 52:13Speaker 1: Remember, Yeah.
- 52:15Speaker 2: And then we get the room assignments, and now Jennifer
- 52:18Speaker 2: is like, has to share a bed with Sutton, and
- 52:21Speaker 2: she has this great confessional at the end where we
- 52:24Speaker 2: learn a lot about her. But she describes Sutton waking
- 52:28Speaker 2: up with a jolt like yelling, I got you know,
- 52:31Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, that's me. I'm like, yeah,
- 52:33Speaker 2: that's kind of like what I do. So Suttin I
- 52:35Speaker 2: have that in common, which is terrifying. But then we
- 52:40Speaker 2: have this entire this is a commercial for this hotel.
- 52:45Speaker 2: Erica starts the commercial in her confessional, She's.
- 52:47Speaker 3: Like, everything is so fabulous at the Lynn Jammer. Yes,
- 52:52Speaker 3: I mean Kathy Hilton's trips, I mean wow, Bose is
- 52:55Speaker 3: giving her run for money.
- 52:57Speaker 2: Wow. And then you go in and then Kathy's look
- 53:00Speaker 2: at these bar stools. And then they walk out. Kathy's
- 53:04Speaker 2: and Kelly's like, look at this pool, and even Sutton's like, wow,
- 53:08Speaker 2: this view.
- 53:10Speaker 1: I mean it was gorgeous.
- 53:12Speaker 2: No, I know, but these types of ads, to me,
- 53:16Speaker 2: I can't figure out. It feels like Kathy is behind
- 53:19Speaker 2: them because they're never this obvious and I just don't
- 53:22Speaker 2: understand why. But I do. I do love spotting it.
- 53:25Speaker 2: That's what I like about it.
- 53:26Speaker 1: Well, forget that she runs the she's part of She's
- 53:30Speaker 1: at the top of the Hilton Fortune, you know what
- 53:33Speaker 1: I mean, like right the hotel.
- 53:36Speaker 2: We have to just yeah, we have to.
- 53:38Speaker 1: I have to keep that in mind.
- 53:40Speaker 2: But Kathy's always popping in with ads.
- 53:42Speaker 1: You know.
- 53:42Speaker 2: That's like she's whether it's pajamas or you know, who knows. Okay, So,
- 53:47Speaker 2: by the way, her packing unpacking those enormous tabula jars.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Needed it, wanted, wanted zomans. I was like, can I
- 53:57Speaker 1: get I need to see, like I need more time
- 54:01Speaker 1: with this.
- 54:02Speaker 2: Yes, Like truly it was amazing, just full glass jars.
- 54:08Speaker 2: I mean it was great. It was so so c just.
- 54:12Speaker 1: Like clank, just everything.
- 54:14Speaker 2: Cereum's hair lotions loved it and like a pair of
- 54:16Speaker 2: white boots that did not look like they were.
- 54:19Speaker 1: Hers hers, No, those are not hers. She can't make
- 54:23Speaker 1: your way in those I.
- 54:24Speaker 2: Grab Paris's boots by accident, you know, like, what are
- 54:27Speaker 2: they doing?
- 54:28Speaker 1: Yes, I don't They must have been Kyle's. They had
- 54:32Speaker 1: to have been.
- 54:34Speaker 2: So Jennifer's candy explodes in her bag and I did
- 54:38Speaker 2: have to like really appreciate her being like, oh no,
- 54:41Speaker 2: mister Bell and just like an old reference, you know,
- 54:46Speaker 2: from like SNL or whatever. She in this confessional talking
- 54:51Speaker 2: about her life about how she was felt like she
- 54:54Speaker 2: was the weird kid and she wanted to be part
- 54:56Speaker 2: of the popular group and she was wearing I can
- 55:00Speaker 2: hand clothes and a hippie just her opening up it
- 55:03Speaker 2: was very sweet. And then calling out that this group
- 55:07Speaker 2: is very clicky and it's hard to crack was a
- 55:10Speaker 2: great moment from her.
- 55:12Speaker 1: We needed it, We needed to kind of drop in
- 55:15Speaker 1: with her on a real level, and this was good.
- 55:18Speaker 1: It was good insight.
- 55:20Speaker 2: It was I feel like that was it was perfect
- 55:23Speaker 2: for where they put it, you know. So I'm glad
- 55:25Speaker 2: that we kind of, you know, landed in with her
- 55:27Speaker 2: and that was nice. And then Sutton towards the end
- 55:30Speaker 2: here when they're in the room talking with Garcel and Jennifer,
- 55:33Speaker 2: Sutton says that you know, you like this being a
- 55:37Speaker 2: really long rode with these girls. Garcel is the only
- 55:39Speaker 2: one that supports her, and that even Kyle won't say
- 55:42Speaker 2: stick up for her when it's like her and Deurite
- 55:46Speaker 2: arguing Kyle's like enough you too, you know, like their kids,
- 55:50Speaker 2: instead of being like Drete, that's too much, And of
- 55:54Speaker 2: course Garcel calls it out. You know, that's the million
- 55:57Speaker 2: dollar question. Why does Sutton stick up for Kyle and
- 55:58Speaker 2: Kyle doesn't for her? I mean, I definitely think that
- 56:02Speaker 2: Kyle sees Derate and Sutton on equal playing grounds and
- 56:06Speaker 2: she's like, you guys are both wacky, so stop it.
- 56:11Speaker 2: She also doesn't have the bandwidth this season to really
- 56:14Speaker 2: take up for Sutton, and I don't blame her and
- 56:17Speaker 2: Sutton if she's gonna have a problem with Kyle this season,
- 56:20Speaker 2: I would say, your timing is all off, you know,
- 56:23Speaker 2: come back next year and deal with that.
- 56:26Speaker 1: Right.
- 56:26Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
- 56:28Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. Yeah, it's not the time,
- 56:32Speaker 1: nor is it the place, nor do we like it's
- 56:36Speaker 1: been too much with the Deret Sutton anyway, and she's
- 56:41Speaker 1: been wrong several times, so yeah, girl.
- 56:45Speaker 2: Very And then lastly, before we wrap this up, when
- 56:50Speaker 2: Deret was talking to Erica and Bose and talking about
- 56:56Speaker 2: how she and Sutton haven't said to words to each other,
- 57:00Speaker 2: and she's explaining how she knows when Sutton is going
- 57:03Speaker 2: to be coming for her. She knows that look and
- 57:07Speaker 2: she can see her. And this is like one of
- 57:09Speaker 2: my favorite things in the world. When Dury goes into
- 57:11Speaker 2: a character, when she starts to talk, talk like the
- 57:15Speaker 2: other person. It is the funniest thing I've ever seen.
- 57:18Speaker 1: So good. It's so good.
- 57:20Speaker 2: I have like a little clip. I'm gonna just play
- 57:22Speaker 2: it for you.
- 57:27Speaker 3: Have been a bad.
- 57:28Speaker 4: Girl's so bizarre, you know, it really is so bizarre.
- 57:38Speaker 1: I don't know, but the essence is correct.
- 57:41Speaker 2: You're right. But she when she steps out of her character,
- 57:46Speaker 2: it's jarring because you don't think she can do anything
- 57:49Speaker 2: other than talking like this and like that and like this.
- 57:52Speaker 2: She's always so measured, and so when she pops out
- 57:56Speaker 2: like that one time she came for Sutton, I don't
- 57:59Speaker 2: remember the big and Sutton's like, well, I don't know
- 58:04Speaker 2: who you think you are. And then Jerie it's like,
- 58:07Speaker 2: well I don't know who you think you are, like.
- 58:09Speaker 1: She mocked her.
- 58:09Speaker 2: It was like the funniest thing I've ever seen, because
- 58:12Speaker 2: it's so unlike her to do anything like that, And
- 58:15Speaker 2: I wish we could have a little montage of all
- 58:19Speaker 2: the times that she's done these things because they're so
- 58:21Speaker 2: bizarre and so funny.
- 58:22Speaker 1: So, yeah, she doesn't have like a great person, She's
- 58:26Speaker 1: not funny per se, right, but these things are hilarious
- 58:32Speaker 1: and it shows a funny side to her that we
- 58:36Speaker 1: never She's not a humorous person.
- 58:39Speaker 2: Right, It's like, oh, you can act, you know, you
- 58:41Speaker 2: can actually kind of act and become a different character.
- 58:45Speaker 2: Fully have many pushed.
- 58:46Speaker 1: To the brank, and then she can find it.
- 58:49Speaker 2: You know, you can see her doing a technique, like
- 58:52Speaker 2: she really gets into the character she's thinking about that.
- 58:55Speaker 2: You know. It's like, that's what my process looks like.
- 58:58Speaker 2: Like what right?
- 59:00Speaker 1: Fun? Yes?
- 59:02Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, Well that's a wrap on Beverly Hills.
- 59:05Speaker 2: Diana Chang, thank you so much.
- 59:08Speaker 1: Thank you everyone.
- 59:09Speaker 2: Get on over to Deanna Chang dot com and everything's there,
- 59:12Speaker 2: her substack, How to Be Less Old, the Montage Queen,
- 59:16Speaker 2: and of course follow and subscribe over to Patreon dot com.
- 59:20Speaker 2: Slash Drama Darling, lots of stuff over there, guys, below
- 59:24Speaker 2: deck down under Low dish all kinds of Southern charms
- 59:29Speaker 2: gonna be over their summerhouse. Bye for now.