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- 0:01SPEAKER_00: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Astrology for Beginners podcast.
- 0:07SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Stefanie Kate Boucher, and I am so glad you're here.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: This is the podcast for you if you've ever been curious about astrology,
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: if you've wanted to understand your natal chart or make sense of what's happening in
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: the sky,
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: but maybe it's felt overwhelming, complicated, or hard to know where to begin.
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: My goal here is to break things down in a way that's clear,
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: grounded,
- 0:30SPEAKER_00: and completely usable in real life,
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: so that over time,
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: you begin to understand your own chart and the language of the stars.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for being here and sharing your time with me.
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, welcome back to Astrology for Beginners.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: I am keeping things just a little bit shorter this week,
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: but there is something happening in the astrology right now that I wanted to talk
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: about,
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: especially because it's setting us up for a much bigger story that we'll be talking
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: about over the next couple of months.
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: Venus is currently moving through Scorpio,
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: and we're also now in the pre-shadow period for the upcoming Venus retrograde.
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: So rather than doing a full Venus retrograde episode today,
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: we'll get there,
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: I promise,
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: but it will be closer to the retrograde itself,
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: I thought it might be useful first in preparation to talk about Venus
- 1:29SPEAKER_00: in Scorpio itself.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: What is Venus like in this sign?
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: What kinds of themes can come up?
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: Because understanding this is going to be really important for understanding
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: and making sense of the Venus retrograde energy that is building.
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: And then I want to talk briefly about one particular aspect happening right now.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: If you're listening to this on the day of its release,
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: or at least this week, Venus is forming a square to Pluto.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: Because that actually gives us a pretty interesting introduction to some of
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: the deeper territory that Venus will have us explore over the next couple of months.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: And well, longer really, because Venus will be in Scorpio for a while.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: Before we get started,
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: I want to remind you all that on September 22nd and 23rd,
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: I am hosting a two-part virtual workshop Understanding Your Emotional Wiring.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: And over two evenings,
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: we're going to use the moon in your birth chart as a lens
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: for better understanding some of those emotional patterns that you have,
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: why certain situations affect you more strongly than others,
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: your instinctive reactions to things,
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: what helps you feel safe and regulated,
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: and some of the patterns you may have carried with you for a long time.
- 3:01SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about moon signs,
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: house placements,
- 3:04SPEAKER_00: and aspects, but you definitely don't need to be an astrology expert to join us.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: The whole idea is to use astrology as a tool
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: for understanding your own emotional patterns a little more deeply and learning how
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: to work with them rather than against them.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: And by the way,
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: because a couple people have asked,
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: you do not have to attend live if you can't make it but still want to sign up.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: The event will be recorded and you can watch it on demand.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: I'll put a link at the show notes where you can find more information if you're interested.
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's talk about Venus in Scorpio.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: First, What's Venus?
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: Like, do we need a little refresher on Venus here?
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: Because we're going to hear a lot about Venus over the next several weeks.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: Venus is probably most famous as the planet of love and relationships.
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: And of course, this is a big part of this retrograde cycle.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: There is absolutely going to be no way of getting around that, I don't think.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: But Venus describes more than romantic relationships.
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: Of course it does.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: Venus has to do with attraction generally,
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: desire generally,
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: in all parts of life,
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: what we're drawn toward,
- 4:21SPEAKER_00: what we enjoy, what gives us pleasure or joy, what we find beautiful or valuable.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: It can describe the way we relate to other people in our lives and what we seek
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: within our relationships.
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: It also has associations with money and resources,
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: particularly the things we place a lot of value on and what we're willing to put
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: towards them.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Like, what are they really worth to us?
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: What are we willing to pay or exchange or spend for them?
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: You know, spend monetarily or otherwise.
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: Venus has associations with our values and our value systems, what's important to us.
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: And then there's another Venus theme that I think becomes particularly important,
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: especially when we're talking about the sign of Scorpio, and that is self-worth.
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: What do I believe I deserve?
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: What am I willing to accept?
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: What am I attracted to and why?
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: Why am I drawn to that thing or that person?
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: Even like, why am I drawn to that pattern again and again?
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: What do I value enough to invest myself in?
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: Those are all really Venusian types of questions.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: So what happens when Venus moves into Scorpio?
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: Well, Scorpio isn't really that interested or at all interested in keeping things on
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: the surface, right?
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: This is a sign associated with intimacy,
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: vulnerability, trust, power, mergers and merging, right?
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: Shared resources, psychological depth.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: And often it's associated with whatever is happening underneath the thing
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: that we can easily see, right?
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: There's the thing that's obvious or visible, and then there's the thing underneath the thing.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: So when Venus moves through Scorpio, relationships can become a little more emotionally complex.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: We may be less interested in superficial connections and more interested
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: in what's real and deep.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: Can I trust you or not?
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: What happens when I really let somebody get to know me,
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: know the real vulnerable me, the me without a mask on?
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: What am I giving to this relationship?
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: What energy am I putting towards it?
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: And what am I getting back?
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: Is there reciprocity?
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: Where do I feel secure?
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: And where do I not feel secure enough?
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: And because Scorpio,
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: deals with things like power and resources that we share with other people,
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: Venus here can bring attention to the exchanges of all kinds that are happening
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: within our relationships.
- 7:19SPEAKER_00: Not just money, although sometimes it is literally money, but emotional exchanges too.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: Again, who gives more?
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: Is it equal?
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: Are there imbalances?
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: You know, who has more power?
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: Where are we too dependent or not dependent enough on one another?
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: Where are we holding something back from each other?
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: Where might fear of loss be influencing our feelings, our actions, or our relationship dynamics?
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: And these can be really uncomfortable questions.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: But they're also questions that can create a lot more intimacy,
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: much truer intimacy, When we're willing to look at them and find the answers.
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: Now, of course, we know that Scorpio gets stereotyped constantly.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Scorpio.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: As jealous, possessive, obsessive, maybe secretive.
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: And those can certainly be expressions of Scorpio energy.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: It can.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: But Scorpio's mission is not, you know, just to create drama.
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: Scorpio's mission is to find the truth.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: It wants to understand what's underneath the surface.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: And sometimes that means being willing to go
- 8:39SPEAKER_00: into emotional territory we'd rather not go into at all,
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: or at least most of the time.
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: So Venus and Scorpio can potentially deepen our relationships,
- 8:51SPEAKER_00: but it can also expose the places where intimacy,
- 8:56SPEAKER_00: trust, reciprocity, or power dynamics aren't functioning particularly well.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: And right now, things are getting pretty interesting.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: Venus has just recently opposed Chiron.
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: Which means some deeper wounds for each of us may have gotten activated, rubbed up against.
- 9:19SPEAKER_00: And now Venus is moving into a square with Pluto.
- 9:24SPEAKER_00: This is the planet of the underworld, right?
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: This is the modern ruler of Scorpio.
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: The traditional ruler, though, just FYI, is Mars.
- 9:33SPEAKER_00: But, you know,
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: and Venus is doing all of this after entering the shadow of its upcoming retrograde.
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: If you listened to my recent Q&A episode,
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: you heard me talk about the shadow period as the beginning of
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: the larger retrograde cycle.
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: We're already moving through degrees of the zodiac that Venus will return to during
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: the retrograde.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't necessarily assume that everything happening right now is going to become
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: the singular story of your Venus retrograde, but I would pay attention, certainly.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: What is it that is getting your attention around relationships right now?
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: What is getting your attention around money,
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: values, self-worth, trust, intimacy, or reciprocity right now?
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: Because Venus may come back later and have us look at some of this stuff again.
- 10:39SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about the Venus-Pluto square for a minute.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: Some of you may even have this aspect in your natal chart,
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: perhaps, or maybe you know someone who does.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: Whenever Venus and Pluto come together, we're combining two very different planetary principles.
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: Venus wants connection, harmony, pleasure, value.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: Pluto tends to intensify whatever it touches.
- 11:07SPEAKER_00: Pluto is associated with power,
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: compulsion,
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: psychological depth,
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: transformation,
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: and again,
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: all the things we sometimes keep buried because they're uncomfortable to confront.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: When you put those together,
- 11:25SPEAKER_00: relationships can become the place or the stage
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: where some deeper stuff gets activated.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: Sometimes that can feel like tremendous attraction or intensity of feeling and emotion.
- 11:40SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it can bring up fear of losing someone or something that we value.
- 11:47SPEAKER_00: Sometimes issues involving jealousy,
- 11:50SPEAKER_00: control, possessiveness, vulnerability, or unequal power become harder to ignore.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: Who is it that holds all the cards in a relationship?
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: Sometimes that comes up for people.
- 12:05SPEAKER_00: But sometimes it's not about another person at all.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: Venus Pluto can also have us kind of digging at some real issues
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: or challenges around value and self-worth.
- 12:17SPEAKER_00: Why do I want what I want?
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: Why am I so attached to this?
- 12:22SPEAKER_00: What am I afraid will happen?
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: So it can be a lot more than just relationship drama.
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: It can bring all the Venusian things to the surface.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: And because this particular Venus-Pluto square is happening while Venus is already
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: in its retrograde shadow, I think it's worth noticing what surfaces now.
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: You know, we don't want to panic about it or anything.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: We don't want to read too much into one argument or one conversation or disagreement
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: or anything.
- 13:06SPEAKER_00: We don't want to assume we can solve everything now either.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: That comes later.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: We're not trying to predict or solve our entire Venus retrograde based
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: on what happens this week.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: We're noticing.
- 13:19SPEAKER_00: Notice your conversations.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: Notice what's rubbing you the wrong way.
- 13:24SPEAKER_00: Notice what relationship stuff doesn't feel all that good.
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: Notice if there's fear or worry about something.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: Or maybe nothing particularly dramatic happens at all for you right now.
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: That's okay too.
- 13:40SPEAKER_00: Lucky you, in fact.
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: And if you have Venus-Pluto in your natal chart,
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: for those of you who have a Venus-Pluto conjunction or square or opposition natally,
- 13:51SPEAKER_00: some of these themes may sound a little familiar.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: You may experience relationships and attraction with a certain amount of intensity already.
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: This is also true if you natally have Venus in Scorpio.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: Relationships can potentially become very important vehicles for you
- 14:12SPEAKER_00: for your own personal and emotional growth and your transformation already.
- 14:19SPEAKER_00: There can sometimes be lifelong lessons around attachment or power or vulnerability
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: or control or intensity.
- 14:31SPEAKER_00: You know, is that intensity real intimacy or is it just intensity?
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: Please don't be tempted,
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: by the way,
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: to reduce a natal Venus-Pluto aspect to,
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: you have toxic relationships or you're obsessive in romance and these kinds
- 14:46SPEAKER_00: of things.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: Okay, you may hear these things, but let's not get caught up in that.
- 14:51SPEAKER_00: As always, we have to look at all kinds of things.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: And different people often live the same aspects in very different ways.
- 15:00SPEAKER_00: At its best,
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: I think Venus and Pluto together can have an enormous capacity for emotional honesty
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: and depth.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: There can be a willingness to go beneath the surface of a relationship rather
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: than settling for something superficial.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: But that depth requires us to be willing to look at our own motivations too.
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: We just can't be always looking at the other person's motivations.
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: And we have to get to know ourselves as intimately as we desire knowing the other person.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: Because often,
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: with these kinds of placements,
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: the person or the people in your life are there to mirror your own growth path back
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: to you.
- 15:49SPEAKER_00: So I think this is what I'd leave you with.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: We're at the beginning of a longer Venus story arc.
- 15:58SPEAKER_00: Venus is in Scorpio.
- 15:59SPEAKER_00: We're inside the retrograde shadow now.
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: We've recently had the Chiron opposition, and now we have the square Pluto.
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: Here are the questions I think you can start thinking about as we go
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: through this pre-shadow period until October 3rd.
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: What are you learning about what you value?
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: What's coming up right now in your relationships?
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: Is the thing that's coming up the thing that's right on the surface?
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: Or is there a thing underneath the thing on the surface?
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: Are questions of trust, intimacy, vulnerability, power, or reciprocity coming up right now?
- 16:45SPEAKER_00: What are you discovering about your own attachments?
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: And maybe this is a big one too.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: Is there anything in your life that is becoming harder to ignore right now?
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: You don't have to answer the ball.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: Venus is going to come back through this territory later on in reverse,
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: and we'll have plenty more time to consider what we're getting as this happens.
- 17:10SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's all for now, everyone.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: Quick reminder that if you'd like to sign up for my workshop next week,
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: September 22nd and 23rd, we have back-to-back nights.
- 17:20SPEAKER_00: It's called The Moon in Your Nervous System,
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: and there is a link in the show notes where you can register or find out more.
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: I'd love to have you, and it will also be recorded.
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's all for now, everyone.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: Have a great week, and I'll see you next time.