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TRADE BAIT? Mike Trout's return to All-Star form fuels speculation the center fielder could be traded · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Lay Angel fans in Welcome back to Halo Territory. I
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  Speaker 1: am Mike D. Giovanna, former Ella Times Baseball writer and
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  Speaker 1: host of the show with my regular co host Mark Trumbull,
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  Speaker 1: the former Angel slugger. We are taping on Wednesday afternoon.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Mark has a banquet function to attend this evening. So
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  Speaker 1: as we speak, the Angels are leading the White Sox
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  Speaker 1: seven to one through six innings on the verge if
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  Speaker 1: their bullpen can hold it of winning an actual series.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Really nice day for Walbert Urania, the young pitcher. Six innings,
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  Speaker 1: two hits, watern run, three walks, five strikeouts and through
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  Speaker 1: ninety pitches, and Travis Darnaut with a three run home run.
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  Speaker 1: A little lightning from the bat of the backup catcher,
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  Speaker 1: but unfortunately he left the game in the fourth inning.
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  Speaker 1: Appeared to tweak some kind of muscle on his leg
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  Speaker 1: calf or amstring is my guess, trying to beat out
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  Speaker 1: an infield flare up the middle. Would you like out
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  Speaker 1: of Urania today? Mark?
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  Speaker 2: I liked a lot out of Urania. The last two starts,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, is a sinker. It's a very good pitch
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  Speaker 2: and it's change up equally, so they kind of play
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  Speaker 2: really well off of each other. He's going to develop
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  Speaker 2: a better breaking ball too as he goes. But he
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  Speaker 2: did walk three today. That's totally acceptable. They really didn't
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  Speaker 2: that first inning. I believe they had a little bit
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  Speaker 2: going and he was able to shut that down. And
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  Speaker 2: it seems like this should be another easy victim unless
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: something strange happens last night if you were what you know,
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  Speaker 2: watching the end, which which at the eye would have
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  Speaker 2: thought they had just won maybe the division series. And
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  Speaker 2: it's a recurring theme the I guess the ab TV
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  Speaker 2: is a high energy product. So if anybody else has noticed.
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  Speaker 1: That, I've noticed that, maybe maybe we should take a
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  Speaker 1: cue from them, huh, then get the energy up on
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  Speaker 1: this show.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to scare anybody or blow any ear drums,
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  Speaker 2: but it has been noticeable on my end. So good
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  Speaker 2: for the Angels are hitting those home runs. That's I believe.
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  Speaker 2: We were told that there's more than one way to
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  Speaker 2: score runs, and this is the way they prefer to
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  Speaker 2: do it, and they're doing it well.
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  Speaker 1: One guy who is hitting a lot of home runs
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  Speaker 1: for the Angels, and it's a great storyline so far
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  Speaker 1: in this early season is Mike Trout hitting two sixty
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  Speaker 1: four with a nine to ninety three ops, eleven homers,
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  Speaker 1: twenty three RBIs leads the major leagues with thirty six walks,
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  Speaker 1: and he scored thirty two runs already, And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that he's back to Mike Trout, the
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  Speaker 1: three time American League MVP level. Certainly not back to
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  Speaker 1: that level, but he's certainly playing at a way better
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  Speaker 1: performance is far superior than we've seen in the last
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  Speaker 1: few years, which has fuel some speculation that maybe the
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  Speaker 1: Angels should trade Mike Trout. Wilder's value is probably higher
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  Speaker 1: than it's ever done. And Joe Madden, the former Angels manager,
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  Speaker 1: did address some of these things with a J. Prizinski
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  Speaker 1: on the Foul Territory Network today. Let's take a listen,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Trout.
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  Speaker 2: He's in Anaheim. You managed Mike Trout.
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  Speaker 3: Will we ever see him leave Anaheim to try to
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  Speaker 3: go to a place to win because they're not winning
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  Speaker 3: this year. It doesn't look like they're going to win
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  Speaker 3: anytime soon. Could it turned around, sure, But now people,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of getting louder and louder. Hey, Mike Trout's
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  Speaker 3: off to a great start to be the perfect time
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  Speaker 3: for the Angels to finally move him.
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  Speaker 2: Will that happen.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it'll happen, But I thought it should
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  Speaker 4: have happened when it was pretty obvious that Joe Hay
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  Speaker 4: was going to leave the Angels, or when he did
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  Speaker 4: leave the Angels. I thought that was the perfect time
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  Speaker 4: to trade Mikey at that time too, only because I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the situation there wasn't good at that moment. It still
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  Speaker 4: hasn't really risen high above that particular moment in time.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: And it's they they do, if they if they could
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  Speaker 4: restock in a in a very healthy way, and that
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  Speaker 4: would be up to their determination how they evaluate prospects.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, I would, I would send him out. I
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  Speaker 4: would send him out for his own benefit, for the
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  Speaker 4: benefit of baseball, getting an opportunity to see him play
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  Speaker 4: in a playoff situation. Just not unlike what happened with
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  Speaker 4: the show when he went to the Dodgers and all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden he's become kind of a showtime. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, Mikey's looks really good right now. I'm watching
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  Speaker 4: him at center field. He's moving well. You watch him.
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  Speaker 4: I saw him score first to home I think and
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  Speaker 4: I saw him. The camera happened to be on him
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  Speaker 4: going from around third base of the plate, and then
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  Speaker 4: he actually slid in the home plate and I thought, wow,
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  Speaker 4: he must be feeling pretty good if he just didn't
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  Speaker 4: run through the bag, slid into it and he never
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  Speaker 4: lost stride and the effort level was good. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: if there's there's no better time for them to do
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  Speaker 4: it than right now, get something in return for it.
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  Speaker 4: It's not conceding the feat by any means. It's just
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  Speaker 4: a smart baseball maneuver. And and if in any way
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  Speaker 4: they could hook up with a group that they feel
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  Speaker 4: good about their return, I think it would be wise.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting words from Joe Madden, the former Angel skipper. Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I would love nothing more than to see Mike Trout
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  Speaker 1: get traded to a contender, see him play in October,
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  Speaker 1: and have you know, bear some resemblance to the Mike
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  Speaker 1: Trout we saw over the last decade in Anaheim. But
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  Speaker 1: reality is, and Joe said it right off the bat,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't think it's going to happen. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to happen either. Why well, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: Trout turns thirty five in August, and he's his contract
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  Speaker 1: has another four and a half years at thirty five
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  Speaker 1: and a half million a year. He also has a
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  Speaker 1: full no trade clause, so we all know how important
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  Speaker 1: loyalty is to Mike and that would be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: an issue. And if he has dealt to the deadline,
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  Speaker 1: the team trading for him, you're looking at one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and sixty five million through two than twenty thirty that contract.
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  Speaker 1: So to me, if the Angels are going to pull
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  Speaker 1: off a deal like that, they're going to have to
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  Speaker 1: pay conservatively maybe half of that contract. And I just
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  Speaker 1: do not see Artie Marino as the type of guy
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  Speaker 1: who's going to pay eighty million or so to see
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  Speaker 1: his franchise player, the Hall of Famer first ballot play
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  Speaker 1: for somebody else. I just don't see that. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think, Mark, Is there any chance this could happen?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 2: And why is that? The baseball writers and there's been
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  Speaker 2: a few yourself, I saw Alton Gonzalez, maybe Ken Rosenthal
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  Speaker 2: as well. I'm not sure there's been a number of
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  Speaker 2: them that have said that this doesn't for the same
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  Speaker 2: reasons you just said. In addition, Joe Madden's been in
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  Speaker 2: this game a lot longer than me, and I do
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  Speaker 2: respect his opinion. I think the not trading show Hey
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  Speaker 2: Otani is the much bigger. I mean, if you knew,
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  Speaker 2: and it's revisiting that just a little bit. It seemed like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he ended up getting a contract with a
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  Speaker 2: seven in the first digit, and I believe that maybe
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  Speaker 2: another owner thought it would be a four. So hard
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  Speaker 2: to say, you have. There's people that can probably predict
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  Speaker 2: those things, and maybe the consultant wasn't not as accurate there.
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  Speaker 2: But with Mike, it is pretty cool. Actually, it's incredibly cool.
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  Speaker 2: If he finishes his whole career with one team. You
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  Speaker 2: don't see that much anymore. It's just rare. Maybe it'll
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  Speaker 2: change with some of these guys getting these twelve thirteen
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  Speaker 2: year deals early in their career and taking them into
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  Speaker 2: their mid thirties. But the money doesn't make sense. The
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  Speaker 2: no trade clause is really the thing. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: any insider information. My gut says that Mike doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: a huge appetite to move. I think his family is
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  Speaker 2: happy here. He's a low key guy that isn't already obvious.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that should be news to nobody. I think
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  Speaker 2: that some guys prefer to play in environments that they enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not to say that he enjoys, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the brand of baseball that they are playing. But he's happy.
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  Speaker 2: He is and and on a broader note, this season
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  Speaker 2: he seems in a better place mentally. If there's some
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  Speaker 2: some reasons behind that, maybe you know, we'll hear those,
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  Speaker 2: but I just you know, it's nice to see the
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  Speaker 2: last few years especially, and you know what injuries are
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  Speaker 2: highly you know those will suck the life out of
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  Speaker 2: your enjoyment. And you know he's healthy, he's happy, he's
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  Speaker 2: playing well, and he's a he's an angel, and I
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  Speaker 2: think he will remain an angel. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think the word healthy is the key for me.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's happy because he's healthy and he's back
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  Speaker 1: in center field. He's playing out there every day. We
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  Speaker 1: saw a couple of really nice throws in the Chicago series.
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  Speaker 1: I think he throughout a guy at second on the
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  Speaker 1: first game, and then he almost threw a guy, threw
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  Speaker 1: a guy out at second, tagging up me drough on
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  Speaker 1: a fly to pretty deep center. So I just think
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  Speaker 1: he's a different player when he's playing a two way game.
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  Speaker 1: I do wonder though, and you you were a teammate
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  Speaker 1: of trouts when he was young and coming up. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how well you've kept up with him
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  Speaker 1: over years. But you know, the whole thing about loyalty,
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  Speaker 1: I get it, he's very loyal to already that he's
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  Speaker 1: made him you know, I'll make him a billionaire. But
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  Speaker 1: I do wonder. I think if the right deal came
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  Speaker 1: along with the right team, maybe Phillies, if he goes
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  Speaker 1: back to his home home, you know, the roots is
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  Speaker 1: h I think he would waive the no trade. I
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  Speaker 1: really do, especially if it's maybe in you know, one
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  Speaker 1: or two years from now, when there's only a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years left in his contract. Do you really think
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  Speaker 1: that's a bigger obstacle than the actual contract itself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure you could ask him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always he always loves talking about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That'll be an interesting will you're the perfect next time
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: you're there, Why don't you Why don't you run a
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  Speaker 2: buy him? See what he says, I definitely will.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Helo Territory on Mike Dgievanna with Mark Trumbo.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Zach Netto snapped an ode for twenty three skid with
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: a single in the third inning Tuesday night, Danny hit
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: a go ahead home run. I believe it's in the
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: fifth inning. And then on Wednesday he hit an RBI
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: triple to right field, and then Mark, we've talked about
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: this kid being a dead pull hitter, far too much
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: of a pull hitter for your taste for that first
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: month of the season. How we always hear you, know,
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: Dave Roberts, I heard it for years and years. Use
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: the big part of the field, He's a big part
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: of the field. How significant is him going to right field?
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: I think he went to write on the single the
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: other night. How big is that for him? And what
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: did you sort of see in his at bats these
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: last few days?
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Personally, I do like to see it. I've also said
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: with him he is a poll hitter, but he's able
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: to do a lot up the walk rate rather significantly
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: in short order. But then came the batting slump. I
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: guess he said it in his own words, credited Pokemon
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: cards with getting him out of it. It was talked
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: about on the broadcast today. Baby Yoda, it's grogu actually,
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: I think is the technical term Pokemon cards, and it's
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: a world that I really don't know too well, but
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: don't work. Why question it? He I think he Well,
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  Speaker 2: obviously he got out of the box eventually on that
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: home run, but.
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  Speaker 5: That was.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Let the kids play. Let the kids play. Yeah, yeah,
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: if he's having fun. Bobby Valentine had some interesting words
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: on the pregame show today. I appreciated what he said.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: It's rare to hear that, especially from ab TV, But
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: he said that, you know, he thought that the Zach
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: had lost some focus, and I think that that might
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: be pretty true. I think that Ron Washington got on
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: him previously about taking the defense excuse me, taking the
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: bat out to to defense and some of the plays
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: slipping away. We've seen a few this week that for
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: an elite defender. With all those runs saved, I think
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: that they were makeable. He wears his emotions on his sleeve.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Sterling Ball. Our guest was, you know, he hit upon that,
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: and if you're going to be a leader, if you're
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: going to be a highly compensated player. It's important to
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  Speaker 2: be as even keeled as you can through the tough times.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: It's not easy, but it's important. And I think the
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  Speaker 2: production and the prolonged slumps might be you're able to
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  Speaker 2: get out of him if you're able to see the
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  Speaker 2: bigger picture. I think he's still too young to have
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: that perspective, though everything can kind of feel like, you know,
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: the world is ending. Howie Kendrick was one of the
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: absolute best. He knew he could hit. He never questioned
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: when he would hit again. You know, maybe exaggerating a
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: little bit, but as much confidence in his bat as anyone.
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  Speaker 2: And it really rubs off on people and myself just trustingly,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: if you look at the overall career picture, you've always
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: been a good ballplayer and it's in there. It's just
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: a matter of kind of getting the groove back. And
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: if he is and he's gotten it back, he binges,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: so who knows he could really go off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that lack of focus shows up in some strange
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: areas too, even this White Sox series where he didn't
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: have a very good offensive series. After his single Tuesday
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Night in the third inning, he gets picked off first,
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  Speaker 1: And to me, this biggest mental mistake was in the
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  Speaker 1: ninth inning, the guys on first base for the White
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Sox steals second. It's a one run ball game. Mind you,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Netto didn't appear to make one effort to back up
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: second base on the play. The throw gets by h
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I believe it was. It was a paras or grisom
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: at second gets by Scoots in this grisome gets by
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Scoots in the center field, tying run, gets a third
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: base with one out, Now, Zephyr John. That took them
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: about twenty five pitches to finally get out of that inning.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: But how do you sort of reconcile this kid's label
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: as an up and coming star of the game with
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: lapses like that? It just seems like, you know, that's
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: just pure effort. It's it's focus and concentration. It's hustle.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: It's not a skill, you know, it is not.
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  Speaker 2: It's something that it's hard because it was hammered into us.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Tom Kotchman, I have a rookie ball manager. He said
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: it in a rather definitive way, and you didn't forget it.
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  Speaker 2: But I responded better to tough coaching, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's an ounce of that with this staff.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not a diss it's just I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a different world. I don't see Kurt really how you know,
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  Speaker 2: he might have it in him, but I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's his preferred strategy. And as far as on the
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: player's side, I'm not sure anyone would pull you to
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  Speaker 2: the side like some you know, former years, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a current player, so I have at times
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  Speaker 2: just I got to lean on the experiences I had,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: and I know for certain that some of those things
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: it would have came from soach to the bottom line,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: and he did it. I remember Howie and I had
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: a miscommunication on a pop up one time. It fell.
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  Speaker 2: It was ugly. I don't know if it cost a
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  Speaker 2: run or not, but we the second you got into
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  Speaker 2: the dugout. But that was it, in and out. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he set his beast and didn't take us out of
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  Speaker 2: the lineup or anything, but it was just, hey, this
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  Speaker 2: is unacceptable. And you know how he had some years
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: under his belt at that point, so no one was immune.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Zach got an instant quote after the Tuesday night game.
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  Speaker 1: This courtesy of the Orange County register. I got told
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  Speaker 1: today just to not forget who I am. I'm still Swaggy,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: that confident person that I am every single day, and
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get back to that and joke around
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  Speaker 1: with everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I just I did a big story on Zach over
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the winnow over the winter for Baseball Digest, and it's
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: just came out in the most recent issue, and it
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: talked about just that. I think Logan OHOPEI called it
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: is three oh five swag. He's a Miami kid from
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: three oh five. It's that mixture of confidence and flair
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: that so many players from Miami, like Manny Machado played with.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: But how tough is it to sort of maintain that
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: swagger when you're hitting two eighteen and you're leading the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: American League with fifty five strikeouts? And how when you're
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: a player that sort of really leans into that for
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: performance when you're not performing, do you just kind of
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: got to fake it? Do you make it there? How
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: does a guy you know, what happens when when a swaggy,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: when Swaggy loses his swag, it's.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: It gets The bottom line is it's a bigger deal.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: And that's the emotional side of it, and so in
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the real world, people have all ranges of emotion. I've
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: tried to up mine a little on here. I believe
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I was told a lacked at least, and I understand
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and it was true. It was true. But you know what,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I think that it just comes with maturity. I'd say
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: that at the end of the day, I don't know
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: what swaggy means. I'm not swaggy. I believe maybe New
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: York the Yankees have a swaggy player, made some bold
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: predictions to start the ar A jazz player, sure, and
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I get in concept what it means. I'm not that
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: out of it, but I prefer old school. I think
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the guys that thrive in Anaheim have usually been We've
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: talked about it a little more Darren Erstad than jazz Chisholm.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: But doesn't mean it can't work. I just think that
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you've got to set a good example for the younger
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: players that I'll never get off of. And I think
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: if there are some critiques, I haven't seen a good
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: effort down the baselines a number of times. There was
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: another pitch challenge in the first at bat today, which
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think. You know, you got to do it quickly,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: so it's not as if maybe you even have time
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to think it through. But he did lose one recently,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: maybe the first pitch of the game. He tried to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: steal earlier. They're going to the should win this game today,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: but he got thrown out trying to steal. There's still
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: a number of things that need to be refined a
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: bit more. But the bottom line, if he's hitting his
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: homers and he's playing good defense, that war is going
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to continue to be lofty and he'll get paid a
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: lot of money.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it has been swinging a pretty
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: hot bag for the Angels lately. His first baseman, Nolan
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: shan Well, he did struggle with an ankle injury in April.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Seems to be over that, making some pretty solid contact,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: hitting some home runs. Mark, seems like you've picked up
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: on a little bit of this yourself.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Nolan does look like he's in a much better place.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I saw an interview with Erica on the broadcast the
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: other day where she was asking about a few things,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: including improving his plate discipline. He acknowledged that he has
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: chased too many pitches this year, and he seemed to
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: be hinting that it was a result of searching for
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: more power, which is kind of ironic because I think
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that Nolan is at his best and his power seems
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: to blossom when he's not trying to hit for power
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: kind of one of those opposite things. So if his
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: ankle's feeling good, he's making solid contact, his exit the
• 21:04
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• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Well, let's turn our attention to Jose Suriano, who was
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: nearly untouchable in April. He was the American League Pitcher
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: of the Month, first Angel to win that award since
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Matt Shoemaker, former teammate of Mark Trembos in August of
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. But Stories had a little bit of a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: rough go of it in his last two starts, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Monday night was his worst start of the year. He
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: gave up five and runs, eight hits, struck out five,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but walked three and four innings of a six to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: nothing lost to the White Sox. And I don't know
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: what you were seeing, Mark, but you know he had
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: those stiff neck in his previous star in Chicago. He
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: just looked really out of whack mechanically for me. On
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that first inning, walks the first two batters, I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: nine of his first eleven pitches were balls, gives up
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: two runs in the first and he gives up a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: two run homer to Muracami and a solo shot to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Vargas and the fourth and they go on to lose.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: What did you see from Sorry in that game mark.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: It. It didn't look like the version in the first
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: few games. And he's not going to be going a
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Indiens and just shoving it against everybody every game. But no,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: that's not realistic. But this one in particular looked he
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: was pouring sweat too, And it's not derogatory. It just
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: looked like he was really perspiring. And I don't know
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: if it was sixty two degrees or something.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Chili evening. Yeah, it was not warm at all.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he warmed up in an extended fashion.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: What he didn't have going was his knuckle curve, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: that's been a huge weapon for him. It didn't seem
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: like he had a feel for that. His fastball command
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: was spotty and getting behind a lot of accounts two
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: oh and when he did make a few mistakes, they
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: were all over it. So it was just it. It
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: was a start that that hopefully is just one of
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: those you categorize as kind of a C minus or something.
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: It.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: You know, he set the bar so high to begin
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the year that it stands out like a sore thumb,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: whereas more of an average pitcher that might just be
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: kind of a shrug and kind of kept the team
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: in the and you know, it's not a great start,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't a lead that couldn't be. You know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you can scratch at it and maybe maybe get back
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: in that one. His credit, he says all the right things.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: He seems accountable. I really like what I see out
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: of him, both on and off the field, and I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: think he'll just kind of get back to what he
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: was doing, maybe not quite as good, but hopefully those
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: injuries really are behind him, because you do wonder a
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: little bit it kind of you know, what's going on
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: here that the neck, especially for a pitcher, because you
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: know you have to rely on a lot of different movements.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: If that's bugging you at all, I can see that
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: being kind of a thing that that would disrupt your rhythm.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did a story specifically after the game about
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: out the neck if it was at all in issue.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Let's listen in on what do you have to say that's.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That's feel well? You know, stop nine, but I feel
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: very good. Did you feel different at the start?
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: Obviously we're not used to seeing me walk back to
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: back guys the beginning like that. You know, sometimes we
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: have Dolph line like today, and there's nothing we can
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: do about it. Just keep the head up and keep working,
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: focus on in this one.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Does your neck feel completely better now? Yeah?
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, my neck feels way better. And you know, like
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: I say, stop nine.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Was it what do you think it was?
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Not?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Early the walks? Was it like mechanics or was it
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: what do you think it was?
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Gonna you too?
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: Just when it has those days, we can control those
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: right zone and they put in good swing to so
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: they are very good teams right now and you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: put on very good swings and you see they were sould.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: What are the challenges of facing the same team and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: back to back starts.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: It's a little bit tough. You place the seventeen the
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: alreadycy with God, but we had to continue a battle.
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: That's what I did, and I don't have the resolva
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: a battle to the end.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Has it been a challenge to I know, obviously the
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: first seventy he worked with Logan before he got hurt.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: His last team worked with different catchers. Has that been
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: an adjustment teams working on a different catcher.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: No, you know, like very good relationships with all the catchers.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: There's just you know, dough outings and the last two outings,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: and I just had to continue to focus and what
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: you're doing and forget about what happened today.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll have to take sorry of his word about
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: his neck, but man, something just really didn't look right
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in the first thing. Did he look physically okay to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you at least?
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Mark?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Do you think he's fully transparent there?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Take him into his words? Sure, yeah, i'd like to.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean what we're still I think
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: waiting to hear on Kukuchi. So when it comes to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: anything with you know, the medical stuff, I'm not sure
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: what I believe. But when it comes from the player,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: he says he's fine, he's fine. He's a big guy,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: he's tough guy. So you know, let's just just move
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: beyond this and still seth just have a nice inting
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: striking out three by the way, eight to two. So wow,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: we are doing our best game, you guys informed.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, a guy who is not doing fine on the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: offensive side is Josh Low kind of a centerpiece winner edition.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: You know, they gave up a good pitcher in brock
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Burke to get this guy. As of Wednesday, hitting one
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: with a four eighty five ops four homers ten RBIs
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: twenty nine strikeouts, five walks in thirty three games. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Mark found this stat earlier today. The worst twenty players
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: in MLB according to f War number five Josh low Mark.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: It seems like this guy has gotten off to a
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: slow start, and I wonder if it's just a slow start,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: or is this the Josh Lowe the Angels traded for.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: In full Train. I wasn't looking for dirt on him.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I did come across. We do these shows almost entirely
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: on our own, so we are trying to to, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: provide the content, and that I came across that and
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: it kind of reaffirmed what we're looking at. It's a
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: guy that hasn't gotten anything going, and he had the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: personal issues with his mom passing. So I don't think anyone'
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: said any appetite to get on him more than is necessary. However,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: this is the major leagues, and I think sooner than
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: later it'd be nice to see the bat to start
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: start coming around. There was a play last night where
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: man on first I'm not to know the players offhand,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: but there was a single to left field and it
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: was a pretty routine single and the runner on first
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: never stopped and challenged him playing left field to third base,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: telling me immediately that there's not a lot of respect
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: for his throwing arm. And we've wondered consistently how healthy
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: is he? Is there an oblique thing still lingering. It
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: likely seems that there is. I don't know if it's
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: affecting both the throwing and the hitting, but the metrics
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: with the bat they are what they are. It seems
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: at this point that it's hard to justify continuing to
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: pencil his name in the lineup, especially because they're going
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: to take him out for defense with the lead almost
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: every time Bryce Tidosio as a couple hits at least today,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: he's more than holding his own. He's a really good defender.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: How he will fare with right handed pitching hasn't really
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: been explored all that much yet. But it's one of
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: those things that I think that you what really stings
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: is how well Rock Burk is doing. I think that
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: that's part of the deal with making a trade, and
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: you can look at any general manager is going to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: be graded on his trades, and I think ultimately you
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: hope to probably win most, but the reality is a
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: push is good as well, what you don't want to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: see is to be the one that looks like you
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: really didn't do as good a job. Now the Taylor Ward,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Grayson Rodriguez. I believe Grayson through five innings or was
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: scheduled to throw about five innings as well, So hopefully
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: he's coming back. Alec Manoa activated and so some of
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: these things, you know, these are guys that were acquired,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens there. But as far as Low,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any real points that would
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: make me optimistic to think it's going to get a
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: whole lot better, other than the hitting coaches putting in
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of work with him and getting some rhythm
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: back and really trying to channel the swing he had
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: in twenty two three. Right now, it seems kind of abbreviated.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: A little jabby and not a lot of authority. Got
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: into one descenter the other day and it did drive
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the center fielder back, but I'm not sure if that's
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: about his best bullet right now to that part of
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the field. He just still has the pull home run power,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: but you got to get that batting average up. He's
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: so far down that even salvaging a decent season with
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: this many at bats is going to be difficult.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: We're gonna close on that note. Thanks for joining us
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: on Halo Territory.