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Sister Wives S6 E1 - Picking Up the Pieces · My Sister Wives Podcast

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  They will be fantastical. So season 6, episode one, our
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  season premiere, picking up the pieces, which I don't know, I
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  guess we'll be picking up the pieces on this episode.
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  We open at Janelle's house, her beautiful homestead, her rental
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  in Las Vegas. In case you guys have forgot
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  where we are, we're in Las Vegas in the rentals that the Browns
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  midst of the storylines of building their new homes, Meri's
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  And we'll now be able to talk about Solomon's first birthday
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  I know. I've just been waiting and
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  waiting for his 1st birthday on bated breath.
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  When we're at Janelle's house for the episode opening, Kody
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  says he just got done with his workout.
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  And he's, like, wearing his workout clothes and he's all
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  sweaty. And it's like, OK, thanks, Kody.
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  It's been almost two years since
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  Utah, so queue up the flashback montage of the move.
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  Oh. My goodness.
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  The footage we've seen a million
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  and hurrying out in the middle of the night for no reason.
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  We have to see the footage again
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  season with something that we've
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  seasons with now. Is this flashback like they just
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  can't move on from it? Two years in separate houses as
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  well is what that means. Two years since they have been
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  living in these separate homes
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  falling apart. Kody and Christine are talking
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  about this need to live together
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  couch. And Janelle gives a sumMeri of
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  their choice of their builds, all the things that you guys
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  have heard us talking about that you've loved every minute of.
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  But, and we have to of course we've loved every minute of
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  going through these stories. And so of course we have to have
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  And of course, Kody has to say, too, that they still have to
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  qualify for the homes. So if two people just qualify
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  and two people don't, that would be the end of it.
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  It would be so awful. Catastrophe.
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  That would be interesting though, if not all of them were
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  able to move into the homes because of course, in practical
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  sense the other people would just rent or move into the homes
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  Well, what's weird to me about it is that they haven't
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  qualified or they still have to continue to qualify, but they're
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  So if they don't get the home, then some other person ends up
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  Like it just seems bizarro but I don't know.
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  And then yeah, you're right. They lived in one home as 3
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  wives for the longest time. And if if you only made it into
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  two of the homes, couldn't 2 wives live in each home?
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  It wouldn't be ideal, but. No, it's probably bigger than
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  the original home where three wives were living the whole just
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  walls. And now they'd be moving into
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  new builds that they would have to share.
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  Someone would have to get the priMeri bedroom and that would
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  you get the priMeri bedroom. See.
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  Look. Yeah.
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  Making up the rules here. That would make sense to me,
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  yeah. Robyn tells us that, you know,
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  number one. I think she needs more room for
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  her horde, but that's my opinion.
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  Yeah, Aspen and Leon only have a little bit of time left, so it
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  rentals are depressing. Yes.
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  They are depressing. Leon says that Vegas is their
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  home. They consider Vegas their home,
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  but the rental they do not consider their home.
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  OK, at least Leon's cool with being in Vegas now, so there's
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  adult and whatever. And it's like, I'll clearly that
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  that they are they feel like Vegas is home.
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  Yes. Our first scene after Janelle's
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  house is out at the properties at the cul-de-sac and the bottom
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  So do you think that this is our countdown for the season?
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  I think we're going to get a countdown until Christmas and
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  we're going to keep getting, you know, check insurance on these
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  Until Christmas, maybe I'll put a little effect on it.
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  It'll be all dramatic. But this is not exactly that
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  kind of podcast, so don't expect it.
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  They're doing a framing walkthrough again.
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  I think we ended with that. You know, they were doing an
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  original framing walkthrough or they went to see the frames up,
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  but now we're doing a framing walkthrough and they're going to
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  house first. Yeah.
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  They're meeting Mona and then one of the guys from Pinnacle
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  Homes. Oh yes.
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  So this is probably when they're saying their first walkthrough,
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  like officially. Officially can't forget about
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  Mona, our best friend. Here, we definitely need Mona
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  there. She's got her clipboard and
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  she's following them around. Fortune telling Globe in her
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  hand. Yes, they're crystals.
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  A crystal ball, and it turns out it's not very good.
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  No. Not very good indeed.
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  We've got some mistakes. I think the the money might have
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  Yes, the money and the builders doing whatever they're doing.
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  My favorite part of this transition is when Christine
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  says I know there's just going to be wood everywhere.
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  Yeah, I'm like, what? Like, yes, there will be wood
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  everywhere. They're building a house.
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  And also, what are you, like, scared of wood?
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  There's. Going to be wood everywhere
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  like. I mean, it's a construction
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  site, but it's not exactly. I don't know.
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  She has an irrational fear of spontaneous combustion and being
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  She might get a splinter. Oh.
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  Kody says. I'm not carrying anyone across
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  Yeah, and unfortunately we're starting at Robyn's house, so it
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  a little bit in my mouth. I was like, Kody, when they're
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  window and asked if they could change.
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  It didn't seem like a big deal, A big dull.
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  She says it's really dark in here and Kody says, yeah, I'd be
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  window. It's not big enough.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Our next house on this fabulous tour is Meri's house and as soon
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  Like couldn't happen to a better sister, wife, you know?
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  Yeah. Of course, she's like the first
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  one to go. Now this is a problem.
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  And I see it immediately, like, OK, here we go, Meri.
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  Yeah, there's a big double door frame where there should just be
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  funny. There's just, it's just, you
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  know, like, yeah, I mean, you don't want to put indoors where
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  you didn't have them plan. Whatever her plan is for that
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  room, she should get that. It's just funny that of course
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  be a solid wall. Like, oh, God.
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  Of course, Mayor. It's funny because you know,
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  when they're talking about the window at Robyns, they do kind
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  And Meri says if we need to make any changes, like, what does
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  that mean? What's the cost?
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  And Mona says, well, it depends on what needs to be changed.
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  And I hate this type of shit. This is like my fear with
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  building a home is you plan everything out like
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  meticulously. Like you take your time and you
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  get there and the freaking contractor is messing things up
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  and then the money comes out of your pocket to fix it even
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  though they fucked up based on the plans.
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  And I feel like the contractor should be held more accountable
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  for that mistake and they should have to front the cost
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  for that because their job is literally overseeing the build
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  of the home. And if they're not doing that
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  correctly, they're failing at their job.
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  So for Mona to say it depends on how big the fix is, I just want
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  to say like get bent to people in this type of business that
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  take advantage of people and just like make mistakes and then
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  Get bent. Yeah, they didn't go into too
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  much detail about the things because the Window 1, I feel
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  like when Robyn asked if that could be changed, I think the
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  guy from Pinnacle Home said like
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  or if it costs money and it's like, OK, we didn't really get
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  details about these things. It was just kind of brushed
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  over. But yeah, I know it is annoying
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  when. Yeah, there was like a little
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  sidebar conversation, but they
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  And I'm just like, they're already worried about qualifying
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  for these homes and going, like,
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  and now you've got to get mistakes fixed.
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  Like, yeah, regardless of the fact that it's the Browns, and I
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  don't have much sympathy here.
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  situations like this that have
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  they are not very great to work with.
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  I feel like saying, I've heard
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  timeline and you double the budget and like that's a bit
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  much. I mean, it's one thing to add
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  10% or 20%, but to just go into it knowing it's going to take
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  significantly longer than they
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  significantly more, It's like,
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  estimates, like get your shit together.
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  I feel like they should be held more accountable than they are
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  for things like that, honestly.
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  Yeah. They're probably like, unless
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  you're willing to sign this piece of paper that says we are
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  not responsible for our own errors first, we're not going to
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  So now, first we've got the window that's the wrong size,
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  we've got the double door frame, and then we get to Christine's
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  house? Well, Christine's house has an
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  It's it was hard for me to follow a little bit.
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  I feel like maybe it should have been around the corner or
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  something. It just wasn't supposed to be
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  off the foyer. Yeah, there's a doorway in the
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  it's going to cost money to fix the errors.
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  He tries to sell poor Christine on a library, but she falls for
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  it hook, line and sinker. She says best mistake ever.
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  Right. OK.
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  Well, then, you know, it's interesting because with these
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  like a Eden kitchen thing. Like there's like the kitchen
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  and then a place for a table in the family room.
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  So the need for a formal dining room is really up to if a person
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  Like to her. And she starts talking about how
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  space. I'm thinking about her kids.
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  Basically. Yeah, you probably have to like
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  close yourself in your room if you ever wanted any peace and
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  quiet in any of these houses except for Meri's.
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  Meri's probably very quiet what it needs to be.
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  But do you remember how big computer rooms used to be?
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  Yes. Like having a nook that was a
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  computer room. Yeah, it was a big deal.
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  We were looking for houses and I remember there being like the
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  newer homes had a computer like nook either off the kitchen.
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  Ours ended up being in the basement and it was this like
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  framed out nook in the middle of the basement and that was a big
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  deal or having like a small office space.
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  And so I could see how that could be helpful, especially
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  with all of the studying that she does for things, you know,
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  helpful before her failures of tests.
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  Yeah, the, the family home needs space for the PC and the monitor
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  the fucking things like Oh my God.
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  And you're right, remember? And so many times those built
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  insurance or the big desk were like that oak, like the yellow
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  Yeah, and they're like massive and like heavy pieces that even
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  if you try to get rid of them, it's like no one wants it
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  anymore. You could set it up by the
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  street with the free sign and people are like, I'm just going
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  to drive my bike. It's.
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  Too much work. Yeah, Christine is wearing a
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  green blouse with frog closures like buttons all down the front.
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  No, like it's a, it's a type of closure.
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  They're usually on kimonos and
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  Oh, is it the kind of the thing that comes?
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  Out. Yeah, with the little loop that
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  goes through and she's wearing
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  literally just like those frog
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  front. And I was like, what is this?
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  What is this? She's such a fashion icon that
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  Christmas. Yeah, so unique.
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  And on this parade of homes, we don't get to see anything about
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  Janelle's. Nope.
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  So I'm assuming that means either there was nothing wrong,
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  which is not my assumption, or
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  She's like, I'm easy breezy, beautiful.
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  I'm Janelle. It's all good.
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  Don't worry, don't. It doesn't matter to me.
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  Save the dollars. Keep it as is.
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  Oh, these rooms don't have doors
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  That's all right. I'll make my kids find another
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  way in. Don't.
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  Don't spend the money. Want me to access the room at
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  all? Yeah, we'll make our own doors
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  when we move in. We'll make holes for the kids to
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  crawl through. We'll.
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  Just breakthrough the drywall.
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  Ridiculous. Then we get a transition into
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  our next scene where Robyn starts off by talking about how
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  for Christmas last year she designed a necklace for her
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  sister wives. And I was like did we get to see
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  this necklace? We do hear about it more later
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  so my my queries were calmed but
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  necklace? Did I miss it?
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  Was I sleep? They did show us when she gave
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  it to them. Really.
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  Yeah, she gave it to them for Christmas and it was like the
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  first like mock up thing almost before the actual mock ups.
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  OK, OK. Yeah.
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  She talks about how it's been 5 months since they launched the
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  My Sister Wives Closet website.
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  Five whole months. Five months and I'm sure they've
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  to discuss an upcoming Expo titled What Women Want in St.
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  George, UT. Which is so funny because when
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  hell did she say? I had to rewind it because she's
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  It's like. What women want, What women
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  want, it's a big deal for them to be part of this Expo because
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  they have some issues boiling up.
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  Issues coming up to the surface. They're having some trouble
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  getting some traction on my sister wifes closet.
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  Yeah, she blames the fact that they don't have a storefront.
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  She says people can't see and touch the items and it's
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  affecting the sales. Like people just don't know what
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  that's why it's suffering online.
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  Yeah, if they knew that the necklace was like an anchor
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  tearing your body to the ground, they would love to have the
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  necklace. They'd love to spend hundreds of
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  It's made out of like, concrete. And she's like, they just don't
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  get the comedy. And yeah, she talks about how
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  this Expo can serve as like, a replacement, like a mini
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  storefront. Like, they'll be there to let
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  people touch and hold and smell and caress and taste my sister
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  It tastes like Mantle. Like rusty pennies for some
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  reason. These jewelries taste like rusty
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  leave the Expo 1/2 hour after it starts because of an
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  obligation with Leon. But then.
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  Says she has a conference to do that.
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  Oh, a conference? OK, see, this is, I feel like
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  she's talking about two different things in this.
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  Like one day she had something and then the next day she had
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  something or something. It's just weird they focus on
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  the fact that she's going to have to show up late and or the
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  drive is 4 hours and if she has to leave you know and only be
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  there 1/2 an hour. Kody doesn't think it's worth it
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  But Robyn wants her to go and Meri pushes to go because she
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  wants things to get done right? So they're just going back and
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  like, why does this even fucking matter?
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  Why does this matter? Robyn wants Meri to drive the
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  four hours round trip because she's a pusher.
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  Yeah, she's a pusher. She knows that Janelle and
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  Christine are going to be like, we're doing our best.
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  Yeah. And she thinks Meri's going to
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  She can't do it without Meri.
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  Oh. Yeah, her sister.
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  Wife. God forbid I have to do all the
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  work. Right.
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  Heaven forbid she have to carry her own weight.
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  Janelle lets us know that they
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  this Expo worth it. 100 pieces
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  that their jewelry, I, I shouldn't say that tells me, but
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  my assumption is if she's running off of an average cost,
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  that everything must be pretty
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  order to sell a $15 ring versus a $2000 blah blah blah.
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  That's a big difference. So I'm assuming they're all
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  overpriced and relatively the same price.
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  For sure. I was thinking 100 pieces to
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  make an Expo worth it. You have to pay for your booth
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  at the Expo. You're paying for gas for this 4
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  hour drive. We find out that they're
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  obviously staying the night because it's two days and
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  they're going the night before.
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  So two nights of hotel rooms and you'd only have to sell 100
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  pieces to make it worth it. Either her math isn't maphing,
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  shit is overly expensive as we already know too, but it's
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  insane. And we do later, I mean, later
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  So the the cost savings that could happen is maybe they're
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  staying at Stepdaddy, Uncle Paul's house.
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  Oh, maybe. She might have relatives, you
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  know, like maybe her sister Fawn or her sister Dawn or her sister
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  there. So let's give let's give Janelle
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  really expensive. Yeah, Kody is like, you guys can
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  We're getting a hotel room for the night.
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  Have fun with Saul. Kody and Robyn stay in a hotel
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  Because they need to be closer to the Expo.
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  Because it's Robyn's thing, even though it's everybody.
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  Oh sure, that that rationale. We're just coming up with this
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  Robyn is wearing this weird like faux Jean blazer with some big
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  Eyes Closet collection. It doesn't look like it.
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  I don't think so. And I'm like she is trying to
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  look serious. She has this like blazer outfit
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  on but it's like fake Jean. It's not even real Jean material
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  having a meeting about my Sister Wives closet and I just
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  thought that was so funny. At Meri's kitchen table so like
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  we're not going to like a meeting space or a boardroom or
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  even a Co working we're just going to Meri's table.
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  Robyn is wearing this ridiculous top and I think that the
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  necklace now I, I feel like it was one of those ones that had
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  kind of thought maybe it was one of theirs is because it had,
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  like, a hoop with, like, charms hanging on it.
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  And I'm like, maybe that is one of their necklaces.
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  But the chain doesn't look like one of their chains at all that
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  we've seen so far. So I'm like, is this lady even
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  Yeah, we've seen Meri wearing the bear paw, which is their
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  logo. Apparent like, yeah, the people,
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  And it literally looks like if you were missing your fingers at
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  So we've seen Meri wear that necklace a lot, and I think
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  Christine's even wearing it. During this episode, I've seen
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  The outfit reminds me of the club days at this time when
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  you'd go out downtown and girls were wearing like business
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  casual as their club outfit. And that's like what she's
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  wearing. It's just funny.
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  While they're sitting at Meri's table, the the important
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  business meeting has started and Janelle tells everyone this
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  weekend will be a big indicator on whether this business will be
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  Right now it's not. Yeah, she she flat out says that
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  be profitable. Yeah, she says she thinks it
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  might be profitable, but won't be profitable enough to support
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  multiple people. OK, so, yeah, so.
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  She did give a little kernel to Robyn's ridiculous idea by
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  saying it might be, you know, it might be profitable.
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  Yeah, she says that she thinks she should be focused more on
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  her real estate business, and she's worried about putting
• 25:26
  bread and butter on the table. This.
• 25:29
  Is it my sister? Wife's closet isn't going to
• 25:31
  give her that bread and butter that she can pass through the
• 25:34
  wall hole to her children as they're trapped in their
• 25:37
  bedroom. For like a little mice in their
• 25:39
  old hole. Yeah.
• 25:41
  Yeah, she's worried about basically paying her bills
• 25:45
  because she doesn't think that it will be able to sustain the
• 25:52
  about multiple income sources, which is something that they've
• 25:56
  discussed before. And it seems like they've kind
• 26:02
  afford bread and butter. Yeah.
• 26:03
  Yeah, I think this is a Harkin back to really the history of
• 26:08
  their family, how Janelle always had to work, Kody had to.
• 26:10
  I'm going to put work in quotes because I don't know what money
• 26:14
  he ever made. Meri worked and even though
• 26:16
  Christine was the stay at home wife, wife, you know, mom wife,
• 26:20
  she's still at work too. So they were all working and
• 26:24
  then Robyn came into the family and that changed.
• 26:26
  They just need instant gratification all the time,
• 26:29
  these people. And when they're not getting it
• 26:32
  and something's suffering or not working just a little bit,
• 26:34
  they ditch it and move on to the next thing.
• 26:36
  Like you've said before, they're they're grifters.
• 26:38
  They're like trying to find the quick and easy fix to
• 26:42
  everything, which it makes sense then why they're hawk and drink
• 26:47
  mix and Lularoe outfits because those are that instant
• 26:51
  gratification money maker businesses that end up kind of
• 26:57
  Well, and I'm curious too, because we're now starting
• 27:01
  season 6, I wonder what their income from the show also is,
• 27:06
  because if you my my best guess was that it would at least cover
• 27:12
  It has. To, I mean, it has to, yeah.
• 27:15
  So if what they're really talking about is earning income
• 27:18
  to set money aside for their kids, they do have a lot of kids
• 27:21
  and they for some reason think
• 27:23
  to college, which is insane. That's insane.
• 27:26
  And then, you know, whatever other things they have, you
• 27:28
  know, bread and butter. So I kind of, it's interesting
• 27:33
  because sometimes they talk about the money as if like, what
• 27:37
  are we going to do? They're obviously terrible at
• 27:39
  money. They have been on this show for
• 27:40
  20 years now, 20 seasons, and they still have money things
• 27:44
  where it's like, how have you not figured this out by now?
• 27:47
  Like how many years of TV do you
• 27:51
  I don't need to be scammy on TV about business because I'm OK
• 27:54
  like. Why don't you have an accountant
• 27:56
  or somebody that's helping you
• 27:59
  budget? I don't understand that at all.
• 28:02
  Janelle the bookkeeper. Because yeah, they've got their
• 28:05
  own personal bookkeeper. Oh God.
• 28:10
  So they're starting this discussion about like how
• 28:11
  they're feeling, what they're putting into the project, so
• 28:14
  like, what's happening? And Robyn of course comes in
• 28:17
  with her brilliant $0.02 and Robyn says that she thinks Kody
• 28:22
  thinks of it as like a hobby business after she says there
• 28:25
  needs to be more man hours put
• 28:28
  So everyone needs to put in more
• 28:30
  And you know, even Kody said that this is just a hobby
• 28:32
  business, which he has an amazing response.
• 28:35
  Oh my gosh, I don't see it as a hobby.
• 28:39
  I don't see it that way because I'm not enjoying it.
• 28:44
  He is flat out like not having
• 28:48
  There are days that I don't want
• 28:52
  want to run away. Screaming.
• 28:54
  Run away screaming. Like yeah, you wouldn't do a
• 28:58
  hobby business that you don't even enjoy.
• 29:02
  This is the second person that's
• 29:04
  the family. Now we've had Janelle say that
• 29:07
  she's felt like running away, and now we've got Kody saying he
• 29:10
  feels like running away. And Christine pipes up and she
• 29:14
  flat out says that she never intended to do this.
• 29:18
  She intended to do real estate.
• 29:20
  I'm sorry, Robyn, I never intended to actually do this.
• 29:22
  I intended to do real estate. And Robyn's like, well, I didn't
• 29:29
  at the table about how little everyone is invested
• 29:33
  emotionally. And Christine, she says if I
• 29:38
  don't groan during the meeting, get up and roll my eyes and walk
• 29:47
  And that had me cracking up because it's so funny because
• 29:54
  she does do that eye roll, but she's so obvious about it.
• 29:58
  When she rolls her eyes, her whole head rolls with her eyes.
• 30:02
  Totally.
• 30:03
  And I mean, I'm, I'm team Christine on this thing because
• 30:06
  it's not like we ever saw any footage.
• 30:08
  Now, mind you, we don't see everything, but I didn't see
• 30:10
  Christine going like, I can't wait to dedicate 40 hours a week
• 30:13
  to your jewelry business. Like, I feel like Robyn's delulu
• 30:17
  where she would think everyone
• 30:19
  availability and desire to support an online jewelry
• 30:22
  business. Like it's just weird.
• 30:24
  Yeah, I don't understand her need for everybody to be so in
• 30:28
  on this. And she keeps harping on it.
• 30:31
  You know, Meri says this is a critical time for the family.
• 30:35
  This Expo may tell us if it's right for the family or not.
• 30:39
  And then Janelle is going in on it again, saying, well, I just
• 30:44
  want to start focusing on my real estate and demote this to a
• 30:47
  hobby. Yeah, Janelle says she feels
• 30:49
  like it's a drain. And the money that they
• 30:52
  invested, they planned on this
• 30:55
  business. So they're going, if this is
• 30:57
  going to be more than a hobby business, it needs to be
• 31:00
  successful and it needs to be successful now because we've
• 31:02
  invested all of this money. And there is that thing in
• 31:04
  business where you either your
• 31:08
  And. Then if you are not, you cut
• 31:11
  your losses and be done with it.
• 31:13
  You don't drag it out and spend all this time on something
• 31:15
  that's not making any money. Yeah.
• 31:17
  And I think that their point here, too, is that they need to
• 31:20
  focus on, you know, external ways of making money as well,
• 31:24
  and that this should be Robyn's endeavour.
• 31:26
  And they're a little confused as to why they have to have such
• 31:30
  big part in it. And Robyn says it's called my
• 31:33
  Sister Wives Closet. It's not called Robyns Closet.
• 31:43
  It's about. Kody supporting his wives.
• 31:47
  It's about our differences and what we all bring.
• 31:51
  I'm like, no, it's not. When you start a business, it's
• 31:55
  about business. There are things that hopefully
• 31:57
  you like about it and you love about it and it's your passion
• 32:02
  are supposed to be dedicated to a non money making business.
• 32:05
  Like Robyn is so fucking dumb. Like she's just so dumb.
• 32:09
  Is it just Kody blowing smoke up her skirt that she's even gotten
• 32:14
  I mean, yeah, it's been around for five months, but we saw them
• 32:20
  They've sold however many pieces, not enough to pay any
• 32:24
  bills. So why is she so delusional to
• 32:31
  wife's closet. But also like, what work is
• 32:34
  there to do? You have the pieces, you've
• 32:37
  manufactured the pieces supposedly, and now you've got
• 32:43
  doing right now? And what the fuck are you doing?
• 32:47
  that run a one woman show a one person business and an online
• 32:52
  business and do just fine. They don't need help.
• 32:55
  So what are you doing? Why do you need help from four
• 32:59
  other adults to do this? And I think that she is trying
• 33:03
  to put the blame somewhere else again.
• 33:05
  And now with everyone backing out, if this business is a
• 33:08
  failure, it's not her fault. No one supports supported her.
• 33:12
  No one gave her enough time of
• 33:15
  Yeah. And now that it's failing, it's
• 33:17
  like, well, it's, it's not on me.
• 33:20
  Right, that totally makes sense.
• 33:22
  And Robyn, she could literally be doing things like drafting
• 33:25
  social media posts for her sister wives to be posting.
• 33:28
  You could you do the work. And even if you have to rely on
• 33:31
  other people for their followers, their engagement,
• 33:33
  their whatever, well then make it easy for them.
• 33:36
  I mean, what else is happening? They're not handcrafting the
• 33:39
  jewelry. What is going?
• 33:41
  On. What does Robyn do with all of
• 33:45
  Yeah, they're not running a little sweatshop with all their
• 33:48
  children making the jewelry. Little truly, truly has the
• 33:52
  perfect little fingers to put the snaps on the end of these
• 33:55
  necklaces. That's her job.
• 33:56
  Like we could drop the price, but we're not going to.
• 34:00
  No. They're like Nike over there.
• 34:02
  They're like keep it in the family so that all the money
• 34:05
  stays in the family. And when we finally make some,
• 34:10
  I put my heart into this business.
• 34:13
  I was hoping it would be Bible and bless our family.
• 34:17
  Bless your family. Maybe I'm just not insane, but
• 34:26
  I guess that's a blessing, but the way she talks about it, it's
• 34:33
  them, like change their lives or something.
• 34:35
  It's insane. She goes on and on about that.
• 34:43
  because this whole episode is just harping on the fact that
• 34:46
  they're all going back and forth about if this business is worth
• 34:48
  it or not and her trying to push the family to do it.
• 34:53
  And it's like, Oh my gosh, we are loading up the van in our
• 34:58
  next scene. Big, big deal loading up that
• 35:01
  red van. Going to go to Saint George for
• 35:05
  the What Women Want Expo. They are putting in literal
• 35:08
  chairs and table and furniture and display pieces.
• 35:12
  Yes, they're putting in like 1 of the.
• 35:15
  Things. Furniture.
• 35:16
  Yes. And one of the things was like a
• 35:21
  plates maybe or something. A Baker's shelf, they would call
• 35:27
  I was going to ask you about this if if you've ever worked at
• 35:35
  work for. And usually when you're setting,
• 35:40
  stipulations like you have to rent these things usually from a
• 35:45
  And so the fact that they were able to bring in all of their
• 35:49
  stuff, they probably rented like the big tables that were there.
• 35:51
  But then by the time they get
• 35:53
  their space set up, it literally
• 35:56
  basement. Like it was nuts.
• 35:58
  Like, Oh my God. They were like, Meri, take your
• 36:01
  fancy plates off of your Baker's
• 36:03
  We're going to take that and we're going to put these heavy
• 36:05
  necklaces on there and hopefully
• 36:08
  their weight. We want.
• 36:09
  People to be able to taste the
• 36:14
  Of course, Meri is leading this packing because duh, she's got
• 36:18
  the shoulders for it. She's doing it.
• 36:20
  She says she won't go the day before but the next morning to
• 36:23
  help set up because of her schedule issues or whatever.
• 36:28
  She'll be there bright and early.
• 36:29
  Who else is going to be there at
• 36:30
  Crickets, Crickets, crickets, crickets.
• 36:33
  Yes, yeah. And Meri and Robyn both say here
• 36:36
  that they don't see it as a hobby business.
• 36:39
  They're both full on in on this thing together.
• 36:42
  Bosom Buddies. It's true, Robyn says.
• 36:48
  They'll be celebrating Saul's first birthday when they get
• 36:51
  back because his birthday is going to fall on this very, very
• 36:54
  important Expo. So they won't be able to do it
• 36:56
  on his birthday. They'll have to do it when they
• 36:57
  get back. Yeah, Expo is on Solomon's
• 37:01
  birthday. Like are you kidding me?
• 37:04
  And Robyn makes the comment that
• 37:07
  his first year. And I'm like, Yep, you and every
• 37:09
  other mother, honey. I know.
• 37:11
  I literally was like, that isn't
• 37:14
  Relatable moment. Like maybe the first one in this
• 37:16
  episode where it's like, yes, of
• 37:19
  first year. Yeah.
• 37:22
  Now all the adults are driving
• 37:24
  Meri. They hit the road and Robyn
• 37:27
  tells us that she grew up in Saint George.
• 37:30
  There was always news about the FLDS and the people of Saint
• 37:34
  George don't have high opinions of Warren Jeffs in his cult.
• 37:39
  Yeah, I don't think anybody has high opinions of LDS or Warren
• 37:43
  Jeffs in his cult. FLDS.
• 37:44
  Excuse me, FLDS. I don't want to say LDS.
• 37:47
  I don't want to offend anybody.
• 37:49
  Kody says that they're going there to do business, and he
• 37:52
  hopes that the people there see them as something kind of in
• 37:56
  between. So like kind of in between, in
• 38:04
  Like, OK, you want to fall somewhere in between so that
• 38:09
  hopefully these people will do business with you.
• 38:13
  He was. He wants to make positive
• 38:17
  impressions. And it's like, yeah, I don't
• 38:20
  know if the positive place is somewhere between Mormonism and
• 38:24
  the FLDS cult. Yeah.
• 38:26
  But if that's where you're striving to be, that's that's
• 38:29
  where you could be. He's.
• 38:30
  Probably not wrong, that's kind of what it is, but it's like to
• 38:34
  come flat out and say it to the camera is like you buffoon.
• 38:39
  Yeah, what a mess. Robyn tells us about how she had
• 38:46
  like polygamists. And you know, she's nervous
• 38:49
  about the Expo because of how the community may respond to
• 38:52
  them. Robyn and Christine are
• 38:54
  unpacking the car and Robyn says I'm nervous, like to Christine
• 39:02
  And she said that she's nervous because she's coming back now
• 39:06
  and she's an open polygamist and she knows that some people won't
• 39:15
  make their quota OK. I can't remember if this is if
• 39:21
  And she's like, because this is Saint George.
• 39:24
  It's like, OK, that's not a real response.
• 39:25
  Like, Oh my God, you're so fucking dumb.
• 39:28
  Even your sister wives are like, bitch, we're going to an Expo to
• 39:32
  Like what would somebody going to come up and like, attack you?
• 39:37
  there and she was told and run
• 39:40
  Never come back and she's back
• 39:45
  How many lives did Robyn ruin in
• 39:48
  That's the real question. Oh, this is.
• 39:50
  Yeah, that is a good question.
• 39:54
  leader of the Expo. Did you catch his name?
• 39:56
  Jeremy Browning. Oh, Jeremy Browning.
• 40:00
  He says that they did get some
• 40:03
  there, but that the Expo committee decided to allow them
• 40:07
  to be there because they are, after all, selling jewelry.
• 40:10
  They're not. They're trying to convert people
• 40:12
  to plural marriage. So I guess that's very noble of
• 40:16
  this for profit organization to allow people to be there to
• 40:19
  sell things. And yeah, he's like, they're not
• 40:21
  here to promote plural marriage or to promote polygamy.
• 40:26
  They're here to sell their jewelry and it's like, but their
• 40:29
  jewelry literally is about polygamy.
• 40:32
  It's a literally called my sister wife's closet, but OK.
• 40:36
  Jeremy Browning. Well, this is it.
• 40:38
  I was hoping to get something more out of Jeremy.
• 40:39
  I felt like they were showing him and they didn't even need to
• 40:42
  like, OK, got it. Like they're sell jewelry and
• 40:45
  that's what you decided. Just to get a quote from
• 40:47
  somebody else that he kind of made it seem like people thought
• 40:50
  about pulling out or not coming if the Browns were there, and
• 40:54
  they obviously used him to get a
• 40:58
  discriminated against again. They've got to get us ready for
• 41:01
  all the hate that they're going to experience during this.
• 41:03
  So much hatred and vitriol being
• 41:08
  Day one of the Expo starts, come
• 41:17
  I just love an Expo built around
• 41:21
  Most people don't need any of this.
• 41:23
  What women want? I guess a lot of women do want a
• 41:26
  bunch of shit around, but you know, there was like only a
• 41:30
  handful of good vendors there.
• 41:33
  that's now in a landfill. There was like a smoothie stand
• 41:39
  right across from the brown stand that I noticed and there
• 41:43
  was like one other food stand that I noticed and then other
• 41:48
  jewelry stand. So what women want, it's
• 41:52
  basically like, come spend your dispensable income here, I'm
• 41:55
  sure. Like come have a smoothie and
• 41:57
  browse. Yes, yes.
• 42:00
  And we do find out that a lot of
• 42:02
  There's a lot of looky loos. We start out with Meri trotting
• 42:06
  on in, she comes skipping on in and she's actually impressed
• 42:10
  with how they've set up so far
• 42:12
  She says actually impressed she had to throw in actually.
• 42:16
  She says I didn't have to fix anything major, I might have
• 42:19
  just re angled a few things. I'm loling at Meri being the
• 42:23
  perfectionist. So she comes in and gives them a
• 42:25
  faux compliment that everything is actually good.
• 42:29
  And then she's like, I'm just going to do this and do that,
• 42:32
  maybe this. And like if there's not room
• 42:34
  that it goes away and blah, blah, blah.
• 42:35
  And she's got a lot to say. And then she's like, because I'm
• 42:38
  a pusher and I'm like. She says because she's a pusher,
• 42:40
  I guess. Her, she's so catty.
• 42:43
  Herring's teacher. She's such a pusher.
• 42:45
  They mention again that with the
• 42:50
  location, it is taboo there to
• 42:55
  worried about how they're going to be perceived there.
• 42:58
  They're all nervous, they're very nervous.
• 43:00
  One lady walks by the camera and
• 43:05
  Like not at the camera, but she might as well have made eye
• 43:08
  contact with the camera and done
• 43:12
  us. Yeah, it looked like she was
• 43:14
  like both noticing the shitty jewelry mixed with Sister Wives
• 43:18
  and then the camera to the left and was like.
• 43:20
  Yeah, she was like tucked. In the space.
• 43:23
  Like tucked her chin in into that face so.
• 43:25
  Good. So good.
• 43:27
  Yes, When they opened the doors,
• 43:30
  But he asks where's the wallet?
• 43:33
  And I'm saying Amen, you're there to sell things.
• 43:36
  So the looky loos, it is what it is.
• 43:38
  It's a hard part of retail. It's a hard part of selling
• 43:41
  things. People want to come and look,
• 43:43
  but you don't pay your bills on people looking at.
• 43:46
  It Robyn works very closely with one lady and they start picking
• 43:51
  out charms and going on and on. And the lady was so excited to
• 43:59
  necklace like whatever the fuck it is they're putting together.
• 44:03
  And then she says that she needs
• 44:05
  to go and get some money. She needs to go and get the cash
• 44:08
  out of the bank to pay for it.
• 44:12
  come back. Right, yeah, dot dot dot. 30
• 44:17
  minutes have gone by at the Expo, they say.
• 44:20
  And they haven't. Sold a thing.
• 44:22
  They haven't sold one thing in
• 44:24
  But you know, I mean, what? What I've always heard about
• 44:27
  shitty jewelry is that it's the long game.
• 44:30
  Right, right, right, right, right.
• 44:32
  Or maybe that was just Robyn, I don't know.
• 44:35
  They have a fishbowl set up on
• 44:38
  like it has papers in it, like
• 44:41
  drawing to win a prize of the,
• 44:45
  And I'm like, you guys are going
• 44:48
  because you're giving stuff away
• 44:51
  selling anything. Because if I was there, I, I
• 44:54
  would be putting my name in the drawing for something free.
• 44:56
  Yep. And then I would also be doing
• 44:57
  something that I caught out of
• 45:00
  pink, pink little little pink eye.
• 45:03
  Oh no, my little eye, my little baby blue eye.
• 45:06
  It was Janelle holding a couple copies of Becoming Sister
• 45:10
  Wives, their book. And I thought, you know what,
• 45:13
  Janelle, for as much as I talk
• 45:17
  with money and all of that, that's what they should have is
• 45:20
  a stack of books. You buy a book, I'll sign it for
• 45:22
  you. You buy a book, I'll give you a
• 45:24
  titty photo, like whatever you
• 45:27
  whatever. That's probably where they made
• 45:29
  really money is selling books.
• 45:33
  would guess like if I saw them, I would be like, I'm buying a
• 45:35
  copy of your book if you sign it
• 45:38
  this fishbowl. That's what I would have done.
• 45:40
  Same. The lady that you know was
• 45:42
  looking at all the charms with
• 45:46
  and you know Robyn took all this
• 45:49
  she was going to buy everything there.
• 45:51
  She was so excited, I bet you that she didn't realize how much
• 45:55
  things cost because it wasn't obvious and it wasn't like put
• 45:58
  out there. And then when it came down to
• 46:01
  the cost of it and she's like,
• 46:04
  get money if I'm looking to buy that.
• 46:07
  And I think she probably was like fuck that and didn't come
• 46:10
  back. Yeah, sticker shock.
• 46:11
  I one time was at a brewery and they had like a maker's market
• 46:16
  type of thing, but it was more
• 46:19
  businesses. And there was somebody that was
• 46:22
  selling products made from their
• 46:27
  soap and this and that. I've bought plenty of that stuff
• 46:30
  before, like at the farmers market or, you know, random
• 46:33
  places. OK, I'm going to buy this thing.
• 46:36
  And I remember getting up to the
• 46:39
  the price. But they also weren't listed
• 46:41
  anywhere on the ladies stand. And I want to say it was like
• 46:45
  $34 for this thing of lotion or something stupid.
• 46:48
  And the only reason I bought it was because I was like too
• 46:52
  embarrassed to not to buy it at that point.
• 46:55
  But it was way overpriced. And I went back to our table and
• 46:58
  my brother-in-law was there who used to have his own bees and I
• 47:01
  told him how much it cost. He was like, that's freaking
• 47:04
  ridiculous and was like annoyed for me, but I'm like, I have a
• 47:09
  feeling that they didn't have the prices very obvious.
• 47:12
  It didn't look like it anyway.
• 47:15
  So then what do you do? And you're going to be too
• 47:17
  nervous to buy something then because you, you just don't
• 47:20
  know. And I don't want to be that
• 47:23
  idiot that goes and like can't
• 47:26
  That's, like, probably the strategy, a part of it, you
• 47:29
  know, is to like get the person checked out and have them go,
• 47:32
  oh, fuck, I guess I'm doing this.
• 47:34
  Yeah, even though they don't want to.
• 47:36
  Yeah, like if the prices aren't listed or if the prices aren't
• 47:40
  like on the bottom of the item, I just don't even deal with it
• 47:44
  anymore because I'm like, they
• 47:47
  that's why they're not showing
• 47:49
  Agreed. Step daddy Uncle Paul shows up
• 47:54
  with Solomon in hand and I was
• 47:58
  him with a camera. I thought he would have been
• 48:00
  there to document, just like he was taking photos of Robyn's
• 48:03
  coochie during her birth. I thought maybe he'd be taking
• 48:05
  pictures. He'd be proud of his niece,
• 48:08
  granddaughter, stepdaughter. Yes.
• 48:11
  Whatever she is, he would have
• 48:14
  pictures of this, but no, he was
• 48:18
  Saul's getting carried into the Expo on his 1st birthday.
• 48:22
  Absolutely. And this is an opportunity for
• 48:24
  Meri to remind us that Saul's birth was when Robyn offered the
• 48:29
  surrogacy. So it's been a year since Robyn
• 48:32
  offered Meri to carry her child.
• 48:34
  Yes, she says that she thinks it's about time for her to bring
• 48:42
  in a couple of days, they're going to be getting ready
• 48:45
  together for the birthday at her house.
• 48:48
  And she thinks it'll be a good
• 48:51
  offer again. Like, OK, we're getting ready
• 48:54
  for your son's first birthday.
• 48:57
  topic together right before the party.
• 48:59
  Right before the party. But this is how this family is
• 49:01
  starting to operate. After the seasons of shows that
• 49:03
  we've seen is like production.
• 49:06
  conversation. They have something lined up.
• 49:08
  It was probably scheduled. It was probably pushed by a
• 49:10
  producer, frankly, to happen. And it's weird because Christine
• 49:15
  does echo what I'm saying about how they really didn't have
• 49:19
  conversations or do things outside of filming, which is
• 49:23
  bizarre because they're a family, supposedly.
• 49:26
  But it's maybe one of the only
• 49:28
  alone together soon again. Or yeah, that makes sense.
• 49:33
  When talking about the Expo some
• 49:36
  rejection from making pitches and not making sales.
• 49:40
  And this was I don't know if it's the first time, maybe it's
• 49:42
  not. Let's go with the second to be
• 49:44
  kind time where I've liked identified with Robyn.
• 49:47
  The reason I'm not good at sales
• 49:51
  rejection and I feel like I can't help but equate not making
• 49:55
  a sale or not doing something to
• 49:59
  And so it's hard for me, like many people in my life have been
• 50:02
  like you should be a salesman.
• 50:04
  blah, blah. And I'm like, just cuz you're
• 50:06
  like an over expressive person
• 50:09
  does not mean you're good at sales.
• 50:11
  Like when people are like, I just view that this is what
• 50:14
  somebody needs and so I'm helping them.
• 50:16
  I'm like, I can't delude myself into thinking they need this.
• 50:19
  They probably don't. So like, and then when people
• 50:23
  don't buy things or because I've
• 50:26
  in the past and it sucks when you're like, make a proposal, go
• 50:29
  to a pitch meeting, do all these
• 50:31
  work with you. It wears me down.
• 50:34
  It makes me not want to do it,
• 50:36
  Yeah, I don't think I could do
• 50:40
  way. Like if somebody doesn't
• 50:42
  actually need something, I can't
• 50:46
  need it, right? Where I think something like
• 50:49
  jewelry could be a little bit more fun because you know,
• 50:54
  people already know they don't
• 50:57
  It is just like a fun item or they have maybe the extra money
• 51:02
  to spend and that's why they're coming to you for jewelry as
• 51:05
  opposed to like a car salesman
• 51:09
  But I don't know, like you got
• 51:12
  So I guess you still are trying to convince people to buy your
• 51:14
  shitty jewelry even though, I don't know, it's a whole like
• 51:17
  round round Robyn situation for me.
• 51:22
  Yeah, it's more complicated than
• 51:24
  default to You have a nice personality, you should be in
• 51:26
  sales. It's like, that's not no, no,
• 51:28
  no, no, no, no. Christine talks about how most
• 51:33
  of the jewelry at the Expo is cheaper than theirs, so it's
• 51:36
  like she's putting the pieces together even more that their
• 51:40
  jewelry is probably overpriced
• 51:44
  quality. We're making assumptions that
• 51:46
  it's overpriced but that it's just expensive.
• 51:49
  Like other people that are selling their goods are less
• 51:53
  expensive than theirs. Yeah, She says their prices are
• 51:56
  too high for the Expo. And the name Sister Wives is
• 51:59
  negative. There has a negative connotation
• 52:02
  there. And she says that on the couch.
• 52:04
  And Robyn kind of looks down and, like, rolls her eyes and
• 52:07
  has this, like, her jaw is set.
• 52:09
  She's got the Habsburg jaw jutting out.
• 52:12
  And you can tell she's annoyed with the comments that are being
• 52:18
  And Christina's, like, I feel drained.
• 52:21
  We've been here so long and I'm feeling drained.
• 52:23
  And it is, it is draining when you're, you know, having to be
• 52:31
  And you have to be excited for every person you talk to.
• 52:34
  You have to make them feel like your, your attention is all
• 52:37
  about them when really you were there all day talking to the
• 52:41
  when I worked at Expo, I remember I went to a resort
• 52:44
  afterwards and I was meeting people at this resort and I was
• 52:47
  like, I've just met like 2000 people in the last two days.
• 52:51
  And now I'm meeting new people. And like the next day I had to
• 52:54
  And I'm like, I'm sorry. I just, I met so many people and
• 53:00
  Janelle says that 8 hours in, they've sold four pieces of
• 53:05
  jewelry and we need to still sell 120 pieces to make it
• 53:10
  valuable. And she goes.
• 53:11
  But I'm not worried. Yeah, she rolls her eyes and
• 53:15
  goes. Yeah, she chuckles.
• 53:17
  She chuckles. It it's so great 'cause it's
• 53:20
  like, Yep, that's the real shit right there.
• 53:22
  It went from they need to sell 100 to now they need to sell 120
• 53:29
  here. Probably because they bought a
• 53:37
  Yeah, their costs went up. We are at the final day of the
• 53:48
  Yes. Final day of the Expo.
• 53:51
  I'm guessing just day 2, like day one, day 2.
• 53:54
  And they sold seven things on the first day, Yeah.
• 53:57
  Yeah. Oh boy, Meri says that we have
• 54:08
  Are we going to be profitable on this?
• 54:10
  And Dingbat Robyn is like, given we're out of town, I don't
• 54:14
  imagine we're going to be that profitable.
• 54:17
  And I'm like that profitable. This isn't one of those things.
• 54:21
  Profit is either there or not.
• 54:23
  It is a number like PNL is profit and loss.
• 54:26
  It's not a thing that you feel
• 54:29
  town, you don't imagine that it's going to be that
• 54:31
  profitable. The answer is no, Robyn.
• 54:33
  The answer is no. And everybody knows that we're
• 54:35
  going to sell 113 pieces of jewelry today.
• 54:38
  Well, maybe they will. We get another gem from
• 54:42
  Christine here and she says that
• 54:47
  spiel, she sees the eyes glaze
• 54:53
  to. Yes, she says.
• 54:54
  I don't think anything is singing to anyone.
• 54:58
  Yeah, it needs when you see something and when you're
• 55:01
  shopping for jewelry, it just needs to sing to you.
• 55:03
  And I don't think our pieces are
• 55:06
  And that would have been so great to see in person.
• 55:08
  Is someone stopping in? You're going to tell them little
• 55:10
  story because of course then they show us examples of the
• 55:13
  women talking. They just give us a little bit.
• 55:15
  It's like not a whole story, but
• 55:18
  symbolizes when the time that I gave Meri a blah, blah, blah
• 55:21
  and the time that Christine touched my Hoo ha.
• 55:23
  And it's like, my God, like people need stories to know
• 55:28
  about what your jewelry's about.
• 55:30
  That's not good. No.
• 55:31
  God, like it should speak to them about something.
• 55:34
  Which is why jewelry generally doesn't need a story that you
• 55:37
  get told about it. It speaks to you where it
• 55:39
  doesn't. And who wants a bear claw with
• 55:48
  look like bodies? And you know what it reminds me
• 55:50
  of? Like the old Fisher Price toys
• 56:07
  sister wives? Who else has four sister waves?
• 56:10
  Yeah, who's going to wear that?
• 56:12
  Yeah. What the fuck were they
• 56:13
  thinking? If someone was like asked you,
• 56:15
  oh, what does that necklace mean
• 56:16
  It's like, oh, it's actually like a logo of a Sister Wives
• 56:20
  brand, like. Oh, is this show that I watch
• 56:24
  about this polygamist family and
• 56:28
  Now, by the way, if any of you
• 56:30
  jewelry, I would desperately, desperately love to have it so.
• 56:33
  Right. I would.
• 56:35
  I'd be the one telling that story.
• 56:36
  This is a necklace from Robyn's collection.
• 56:40
  And I have this podcast where I like to talk about it because
• 56:43
  it's so ridiculous. It's.
• 56:44
  A badge of honor I wear as a deadbeat loser.
• 56:48
  Ridiculous. Now we get to meet Susan, who
• 56:51
  gives us some precious pearls about this Expo and about her
• 56:54
  opinions about the Brown family.
• 56:56
  I I happen to like Susan, although if you were to have the
• 57:06
  that's not pleasant. She's got Susan has Karen
• 57:09
  energy. Yes.
• 57:10
  Oh, she has big time Karen energy and she says I have no
• 57:14
  respect for them whatsoever. I feel there's a lot of creepy
• 57:22
  We get this back and forth between Susan quotes and then
• 57:26
  Kody quotes for a few minutes here.
• 57:29
  So after they show Susan saying that, we cut to Kody saying that
• 57:39
  asking for people's approval. He thinks that this is an easy
• 57:46
  Scripturally, when he talks about how he's sick and tired of
• 57:52
  This is where I struggle with Kody is because I get it to get
• 57:56
  a little wound up by that. I, I, I, I think people are
• 58:00
  under the impression that their acceptance of me is some sort of
• 58:09
  approval to keep moving on in your life and be happy.
• 58:11
  I don't need it any more than you need mine, so fuck you.
• 58:14
  Right. And but what I would have to say
• 58:19
  So like right, like they're I'm. Boiling it down to the basics
• 58:23
  for. Sure.
• 58:24
  No, I know. And I can understand that as
• 58:26
  well. I feel like you get sick of
• 58:29
  having to explain your plight to people when it's not even like
• 58:41
  nervous when a man walks behind them at night.
• 58:44
  Like, go to the opposite side of the sidewalk, please, Sir, You
• 58:50
  Like walking home at night, that type of situation, it's like
• 58:54
  it's so fucking old having to explain you know, how you feel
• 59:01
  OK but you're literally on ATV show trying to explain yourself
• 59:05
  like constantly and. You've stated that one of your
• 59:10
  people are not agreeing with you and you're trying to change
• 59:13
  their mind. Yeah.
• 59:14
  So you are saying you want to explain to people and help them
• 59:17
  understand, but that you're sick of it at the same time?
• 59:20
  Yeah, I think he's sick of doing it in everyday life, like in
• 59:24
  person, like situations and scenarios like this.
• 59:27
  But if he gets a broad audience and gets to talk about put it on
• 59:36
  Doesn't mind that. Yeah.
• 59:38
  And once again, like, I can identify that.
• 59:39
  It's even almost like I'm not upset about people that would be
• 59:42
  blatantly homophobic or call me out in something that wouldn't
• 59:45
  be as upsetting to me as someone
• 59:48
  actually come to terms with me
• 59:51
  Like good for fucking you. Yeah, it gets tiring having to
• 59:55
  educate people when you're like,
• 59:58
  yourself. But then I look at somebody like
• 1:00:01
  Kody. And I'm like, I don't think you
• 1:00:05
  fall under that umbrella. Like this isn't some curse
• 1:00:07
  that's been put upon you. It's like, not like being
• 1:00:13
  anything is a curse, but I just mean that's how he acts about
• 1:00:16
  it. We have come to the conclusion
• 1:00:19
  that Kody is a polygamist because he is a showboat and a
• 1:00:23
  narcissist and he wanted attention and he wanted to live
• 1:00:25
  some life where everybody was all about him and he got to get
• 1:00:28
  away with everything. And that's not the same as being
• 1:00:32
  born a race or a sex or a gender
• 1:00:35
  Like it's just he's, it's hard
• 1:00:39
  when he's saying the things, I'm
• 1:00:44
  me. I know, I know because you can
• 1:00:49
  the nitty gritty of it, no, you don't fall under the umbrella of
• 1:00:56
  Absolutely. Like Lady Gaga doesn't have any
• 1:00:58
  songs about Kody Brown. Susan has another wonderful
• 1:01:02
  quote for us. She says polygamy is not a
• 1:01:05
  religion. It is a domineering, weird way
• 1:01:12
  Yes, Susan, yes. So even though her care and
• 1:01:16
  energy is a bit jarring and a little off putting, I'm not mad
• 1:01:20
  about what she's saying. She is Colleen in the future
• 1:01:24
  that can speak more clearly. Yes, that's funny.
• 1:01:27
  She does have. Yeah, like.
• 1:01:28
  She has some of that energy. She could take something from
• 1:01:31
  her. This is the future, Colleen.
• 1:01:35
  Susan is the future Colleen. Yep, we go back to Kody.
• 1:01:39
  He says. I'm tired of people trying to
• 1:01:41
  thump their Bibles at me. I know all of the old cool guys
• 1:01:46
  in the Bible had more than one wife and God didn't judge them.
• 1:01:50
  Give me a break because I'm
• 1:01:52
  tired of asking for your permission, OK?
• 1:01:58
  Yep, more the same. I mean I agree with him.
• 1:02:01
  I'm tired of people thumping their bibles at me.
• 1:02:03
  But then I'm also not turning around and saying that men from
• 1:02:06
  the Old Testament who had multiple vibes are the reason
• 1:02:08
  I'm cool and I'm good. Like he's talking out of both
• 1:02:11
  sides of his mouth. He is.
• 1:02:12
  He's thumping his Bible and then
• 1:02:16
  at me. Susan has a retort in this back
• 1:02:19
  and forth, which is funny because it's not actually in
• 1:02:21
  person. They're just.
• 1:02:22
  Doing the footage back and forth, Susan says I hate them,
• 1:02:26
  that's all I have to add and walks away.
• 1:02:28
  Yes, Susan snapping. I hate them.
• 1:02:32
  So once again, it's like, oh God, you hate them.
• 1:02:34
  Like, I don't know, there's something that you're doing
• 1:02:35
  that's just OK. But also, yeah, like they're
• 1:02:40
  yeah, OK, got. It I also love that they got her
• 1:02:42
  to say all this on camera because it takes a certain type
• 1:02:44
  of person to want to be on camera or allow someone to
• 1:02:48
  record them saying these things on camera.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah. So, you know, she's got the
• 1:02:52
  conviction behind what she's saying, otherwise she'd be
• 1:02:55
  embarrassed to be saying it on a
• 1:02:58
  Yeah, we go to the couch again
• 1:03:01
  you. She's like proud of him for
• 1:03:04
  speaking up and saying these things.
• 1:03:05
  I'm proud of my husband and gets
• 1:03:08
  After he says give me a break because I'm tired of asking for
• 1:03:11
  your permission. And that says once again, it's
• 1:03:14
  got this theme that I agree with.
• 1:03:16
  I'm tired of asking for your. I don't need your permission to
• 1:03:19
  live my life like fuck you. So I didn't mind seeing Janelle
• 1:03:24
  be proud of Kody for talking like that.
• 1:03:26
  It's just like polygamy. Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  It's gross. I can relate to this in a way
• 1:03:32
  because I have a shit ton of tattoos.
• 1:03:35
  I'm heavily tattooed and I get
• 1:03:40
  they have a right to touch me and grab my arm or ask me what
• 1:03:44
  my tattoos mean. And I'm like, I don't have to
• 1:03:47
  fucking explain my tattoos to every Tom, Dick and Harry that
• 1:03:50
  just wants a reason to talk to
• 1:03:53
  And I also chose to put them all
• 1:03:57
  So I feel like I get where you're coming from here because
• 1:04:01
  like, I can empathize with him.
• 1:04:03
  Like, yeah, it's that's annoying.
• 1:04:05
  But at the same time, like I did choose to put those on my body.
• 1:04:09
  So like, I know they're going to
• 1:04:10
  draw some sort of attention. So yeah, I get like kind of warn
• 1:04:15
  about situations like this. Do you ever get anything that
• 1:04:18
  aligns with the permission bit?
• 1:04:20
  Like the first thing I think of is like, Oh my gosh, you're so
• 1:04:26
  One time I was cutting a boy's hair and he was a teenager and
• 1:04:33
  me what to do. And then he looked at his son
• 1:04:36
  like in the mirror across from him and said, don't you ever
• 1:04:40
  come home with a girl that looks like that and pointed at me.
• 1:04:45
  And I was like appalled. I couldn't believe that he said
• 1:04:49
  that right in front of me. And first of all, I'm cutting
• 1:04:51
  your son's hair. Second of all, how dare you?
• 1:04:53
  My Co worker that was standing next to me who is like a little
• 1:04:57
  older than I was, she stopped cutting her person's hair.
• 1:04:59
  And she looked at him and she goes, your son would be lucky to
• 1:05:05
  She is one of the nicest people that you could ever meet and
• 1:05:09
  your son would be lucky to ever bring someone like her home to
• 1:05:15
  because I didn't know what to say in the moment.
• 1:05:17
  And I was really young. I was probably like 19 or 20.
• 1:05:20
  So I didn't really have the balls to like stand up for
• 1:05:24
  myself yet. But This is why I like the hair
• 1:05:26
  industry got me like so jaded because people just think that
• 1:05:32
  have to take it because you know their customer.
• 1:05:35
  The things that people will say to your face is insane.
• 1:05:39
  So I can only imagine what has been said to their faces.
• 1:05:43
  And especially after coming out on the show and being, you know,
• 1:05:49
  The things we say about them on this show.
• 1:05:51
  But like, at the same time, like, yeah, you're putting it
• 1:05:54
  out there. And you know, if you don't want
• 1:05:57
  to hear it, then also don't put it out there.
• 1:06:01
  And now I've got like the balls to be like, OK, fuck off, dude.
• 1:06:06
  But I have had people just like,
• 1:06:09
  my arm to look at it and think that that's like, OK to touch
• 1:06:12
  me because of them. And I'm like, don't fucking
• 1:06:14
  touch me. That's weird.
• 1:06:15
  It is weird. And so I think that people,
• 1:06:18
  probably, especially now that this is the sixth season, think
• 1:06:22
  that they have a right to come
• 1:06:24
  conversation out of nowhere because they're a public figure.
• 1:06:29
  Well, just because you made yourself a public figure here
• 1:06:31
  doesn't mean that you want every
• 1:06:34
  and have a conversation with you
• 1:06:36
  your kids. We don't actually owe you an
• 1:06:39
  explanation on everything. Yeah, it's not.
• 1:06:42
  Just because you're doing something that's available for
• 1:06:44
  public consumption doesn't mean that you are a public commodity
• 1:06:47
  that is indebted to people to the point of owing them whatever
• 1:06:50
  they feel like. Like you don't.
• 1:06:53
  This family doesn't. We don't.
• 1:06:55
  You don't. I think that one thing that
• 1:06:58
  they've done really well is drawing the line and talking
• 1:07:00
  about the sex and like they did a very good job of from the
• 1:07:05
  very beginning saying we're not answering questions like that.
• 1:07:08
  We find that inappropriate and
• 1:07:12
  it's easy for people with their morbid curiosity to cross
• 1:07:17
  lines. So I think no, that's one thing
• 1:07:19
  they did from the start that was good.
• 1:07:22
  It's funny as the seasons go on because it becomes more and more
• 1:07:33
  years in the future from this. I'm like, Oh my God, I wish they
• 1:07:38
  because it's it is one of those things where it's like, well
• 1:07:40
  what the hell is your sex life like?
• 1:07:41
  Titillating to think about other people and like what they're
• 1:07:45
  doing behind closed doors. And I think that when you're on
• 1:07:48
  a reality show, there are some lines that you have to draw.
• 1:07:52
  Yeah, yeah, Christine gives us an update on how they did at the
• 1:07:58
  Oh my gosh, they sold 19 pieces of jewelry.
• 1:08:03
  Yeah, it's 19, so 1/5 of their minimum goal, as ramen would put
• 1:08:12
  whatever the fuck she said earlier.
• 1:08:14
  We went out of town, we travelled for it and given the
• 1:08:21
  profitable. Right.
• 1:08:22
  Like, Nope, you lost money. That's what that's called.
• 1:08:24
  It's called the lost, not a profit.
• 1:08:25
  And Christine says that doing another Expo would be torture.
• 1:08:35
  And I listen. I've only done 1.
• 1:08:38
  My God, someone would have to pay me a lot of money to go do
• 1:08:42
  works for them, good for them. If it doesn't work for you, it's
• 1:08:47
  Yeah, I've only been to them as a consumer and they're even
• 1:08:51
  rough. Exactly in that when I leave one
• 1:08:58
  and that's being a person there not working.
• 1:09:00
  I get annoyed being hounded to buy things like, Oh my God,
• 1:09:03
  Everywhere you turn, someone's trying to tap you on the
• 1:09:05
  shoulder and tell you about their product.
• 1:09:07
  Imagine walking by an Expo and you get tapped on the shoulder
• 1:09:18
  is me, and this little hump there is Meri.
• 1:09:21
  This hump is Janelle. This hump's Christine.
• 1:09:23
  And then you've got Kody walking around being like, I'm here to
• 1:09:30
  Kody was always the salesman. I'm putting this in quotes.
• 1:09:34
  Sorry you guys can't see air quotes.
• 1:09:36
  He's the salesman. I wonder how many of the 19
• 1:09:39
  pieces Kody sold. That would be an interesting
• 1:09:41
  stat. Meri, if you're listening,
• 1:09:43
  please tell us. Please let us know.
• 1:09:45
  We hear Meri say that she doesn't understand why Robyn
• 1:09:49
  thinks everyone else needs to be invested like they are in this
• 1:09:58
  this, but she just doesn't understand why Robyn is pushing
• 1:10:00
  so hard on it. And especially after a weekend
• 1:10:07
  It didn't go well. And yeah, they gave it a fair
• 1:10:12
  shot. Yep, take it as a learning
• 1:10:14
  opportunity. And Meri acknowledges it could
• 1:10:24
  I don't really know what makes me feel something, but maybe I'm
• 1:10:30
  I see Meri and Robyn having a tight bond and I want that, but
• 1:10:34
  the amount of work it takes to have a tight bond with them is
• 1:10:48
  I felt it was hard because at first it seemed like she was
• 1:10:53
  talking about committed relationships period.
• 1:10:55
  Like across the board like that. She feels like relationships are
• 1:10:59
  And then I'm like, but is it just about Meri and Robyn?
• 1:11:02
  Because at this point, I don't even think that she's close with
• 1:11:06
  Everyone's like, oh, Christine and Janelle are super close.
• 1:11:09
  And like, I don't think they were that super close.
• 1:11:11
  I think that they work together as sister wives to raise
• 1:11:14
  children and run a household. But I don't think they're like
• 1:11:19
  I think they just worked well together for a long time,
• 1:11:22
  especially with Christine being, you know, the one that was
• 1:11:25
  taking care of the children and teaching the children.
• 1:11:27
  And then Janelle went out into the workforce and then came
• 1:11:31
  home. And I think that they
• 1:11:33
  appreciated each other. Yes, I think they had a good
• 1:11:36
  like symbiotic relationship. Agreed.
• 1:11:38
  And then I think as they got older and as their kids got
• 1:11:41
  older and the kids are taken out of the picture, that things fell
• 1:11:48
  again, it seems like. But I think that they kind of,
• 1:11:53
  necessarily a strong friendship relationship.
• 1:11:56
  But I think what Christine is saying here is that she sees
• 1:12:02
  that at least two of the sister wives, Meri and Robyn, have this
• 1:12:09
  does not have that right now. But she knows that it would be
• 1:12:15
  she's harping on like, needing to be closer to each other and
• 1:12:20
  I think what she is probably feeling is the need to just get
• 1:12:27
  physically close again so that they can get emotionally close
• 1:12:35
  working out. And even if that emotional
• 1:12:37
  closeness isn't best friends or whatever, the way that her and
• 1:12:43
  basis, getting your machine well oiled and whatever you do feel a
• 1:12:55
  feel that. And to have that relationship
• 1:12:57
  kind of in your face and know that they're working together
• 1:13:01
  nicely and knowing you don't have that, like obviously you're
• 1:13:08
  It was an interesting sound bite.
• 1:13:09
  It felt dramatic, but also kind of like Christine.
• 1:13:14
  She's dramatic. I don't know it, I don't know, I
• 1:13:20
  then obviously throughout this episode, she's having these come
• 1:13:34
  got to give, but she's not quite sure what yet.
• 1:13:38
  After Christine sound bite we get some more lovely words from
• 1:13:42
  Robyn and she says I know for us to be successful and united
• 1:13:46
  as a family, we need to be in business together.
• 1:13:50
  And I was like WTF? If ever I've heard a WTF moment
• 1:13:56
  on this show, it is. You know, for the family to be
• 1:14:04
  I'm sorry, the vast majority of most people are not in business
• 1:14:08
  with their family like I do not.
• 1:14:11
  She's just trying. She's grasping at any straw to
• 1:14:13
  make this thing happen so that
• 1:14:15
  expect everyone else to do all
• 1:14:17
  I guess. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:14:19
  It's a very weird thing to say.
• 1:14:21
  She says that she thinks it would help her learn how to
• 1:14:25
  speak with Janelle and Christine if they work together, and she
• 1:14:33
  This isn't just about business, it's about keeping the family
• 1:14:37
  together. Yeah, she says that she prays
• 1:14:40
  for inspiration from God to speak to Christine and Janelle
• 1:14:52
  why aren't you praying for ways to speak to your family in ways
• 1:14:56
  that you speak to your family? Like, not about the business.
• 1:15:00
  Like, she's a mess. She's a disaster.
• 1:15:03
  She's trying to make Fetch happen, trying to make this my
• 1:15:11
  God, Robyn. She's just a hoping.
• 1:15:13
  She's hoping And a brand. Yeah.
• 1:15:15
  And now we're going to go to Meri's house, where Robyn shows
• 1:15:19
  up early to Saul's first birthday party.
• 1:15:22
  We've got Meri. You know how they like to show
• 1:15:27
  up some things, moving some decor, some decorations.
• 1:15:30
  And then Robyn comes in with Saul on her hip looking like
• 1:15:33
  she's barely able to function coming into the house.
• 1:15:37
  And it is interesting. I don't want to say interesting.
• 1:15:41
  1 year old birthday party decorations on the island.
• 1:15:44
  And at first I was like, are they just getting together to
• 1:15:46
  prep or like plan for the party?
• 1:15:48
  But then it's like, no, the party's actually happening.
• 1:15:49
  Like I didn't feel like that was really all that clear to me.
• 1:15:52
  But then it became clear. Yeah, they're setting up for the
• 1:16:03
  been a year since the offer was made.
• 1:16:05
  I'm going to talk to her when we're getting ready for the
• 1:16:08
  party, so the moment is here. The.
• 1:16:10
  Moment's here for a crucial conversation, and Meri tells
• 1:16:13
  Robyn that she's struggled because she doesn't know where
• 1:16:24
  Yeah. I mean, OK, that's what she
• 1:16:28
  wanted. She wanted you to feel that way.
• 1:16:30
  Is it? If you take your up on it, then
• 1:16:33
  she's doing this wonderful thing
• 1:16:35
  And if you don't, then wow, you didn't even take me up on my
• 1:16:38
  surrogacy. Offer.
• 1:16:39
  Yeah. I mean, it's your fault you
• 1:16:40
  don't have another baby. You could have had one.
• 1:16:42
  I could have helped you out. I offered and Robyn says I just
• 1:16:46
  wanted you to have a choice. Every woman should have the
• 1:16:50
  choice, and you didn't have that
• 1:16:54
  Sounds very woke for Robyn. She also says I would be excited
• 1:16:59
  to have kids with you. I imagined raising my kids with
• 1:17:03
  sister wives, Like, that's what you're doing, isn't it?
• 1:17:09
  They don't need to have kids the
• 1:17:12
  She says Janelle and Christine
• 1:17:16
  I'd love to do it with you. What she's implying here is that
• 1:17:20
  because Janelle and Christine's kids aren't her new baby's age,
• 1:17:26
  they're not technically raising kids together.
• 1:17:28
  Truly is 3 at this point. And Saul's turning one.
• 1:17:32
  Yeah, you could be raising your kid with Christine's kid.
• 1:17:37
  You're raising all the kids as a
• 1:17:39
  I'm so fucking confused by this.
• 1:17:42
  She's got Brianna, Aurora and Dayton.
• 1:17:44
  These kids are the same age as Janelle and Christine's younger
• 1:17:48
  children. I mean, this is not like there's
• 1:17:53
  that's not happening here. No, it's like we have some
• 1:17:56
  pregnancy packed type of thing that she is implying.
• 1:17:59
  Like she'd rather have a baby baby with somebody and raise
• 1:18:03
  babies at the same time. Oh, so those two babies are
• 1:18:06
  going to be raised differently as siblings because.
• 1:18:09
  Why? Because now she's part of this
• 1:18:12
  So it's like her new crop. It's like her second crop of
• 1:18:15
  children. That's literally what it feels
• 1:18:18
  And she wants to do it with someone else.
• 1:18:20
  That's why she wanted Sister Wives, she claims.
• 1:18:22
  You know, whatever. That's literally what you're
• 1:18:25
  doing. You have sister wives, now raise
• 1:18:29
  right now when you're not. Figure out how to talk to
• 1:18:32
  Christine without talking to her through the business.
• 1:18:35
  Yes, you dumbass. What a great example of
• 1:18:38
  something that they could be building a relationship on
• 1:18:40
  having their kids come together. We've talked about this multiple
• 1:18:44
  dates, do the thing, build a relationship.
• 1:18:46
  You don't have to be the closest people to have a perfectly
• 1:18:50
  adequate relationship with someone.
• 1:18:51
  A perfectly fulfilling relationship in multiple ways.
• 1:18:57
  Saul just turned 1. If you even got pregnant right
• 1:19:08
  because she's saying Meri's saying she would still want the
• 1:19:12
  baby to be her egg. By the time that were to happen,
• 1:19:19
  Your kids have the same age gap as Truly and marries So what the
• 1:19:29
  It reminds me of like when friends because their sister
• 1:19:31
  wives, it is different, but this
• 1:19:33
  Yeah. Like you said, pregnancy pack,
• 1:19:34
  like when girlfriends that are
• 1:19:38
  are girls get pregnant at the same time and they're so excited
• 1:19:40
  about it because it's like all
• 1:19:43
  know? But it wouldn't be that way
• 1:19:45
  either way. If you're carrying her baby, you
• 1:19:47
  can't be carrying. Right, it's not she's not having
• 1:19:50
  her own baby. Yeah, although she would know
• 1:19:53
  that from some of Robyns language.
• 1:19:54
  She's so dumb. And it is.
• 1:19:57
  There's so many elements to this
• 1:19:59
  always saw herself having a boy.
• 1:20:01
  Yeah. And then is looking at little
• 1:20:04
  Saul. Yes.
• 1:20:04
  Like, who's playing with the window blinds.
• 1:20:06
  Yeah. And she's like, I wonder if Saul
• 1:20:10
  And I'm like, just like you were saying.
• 1:20:13
  Yes. Hello.
• 1:20:13
  Why aren't you doing that right now, helping to raise him as
• 1:20:16
  your own son, I thought. That you guys did.
• 1:20:18
  I thought that was the whole point.
• 1:20:20
  That's their whole point, supposedly.
• 1:20:22
  Yeah, and she wonders if having this close bond with him is what
• 1:20:31
  Then go over fucking and also, I
• 1:20:34
  hate to say it, but it's like,
• 1:20:36
  doing all day? Go over and watch The Price is
• 1:20:39
  Right every God damn morning that you feel like it was
• 1:20:41
  solved. Take him off of his mom's hands
• 1:20:43
  for a few minutes. You know what I mean?
• 1:20:45
  Like enjoy the time. Like there's just so many things
• 1:20:47
  that could solve these people's problems so easily.
• 1:20:49
  It's really just spending some
• 1:20:51
  Well then she says too. I'm 42 and I'm still not sure.
• 1:20:55
  And here I am talking about this
• 1:20:59
  I mean, she wouldn't be the first person to have a baby in
• 1:21:01
  her early 40s. But if that's a big motivator
• 1:21:03
  for you, I mean, many people don't want to be continuing to
• 1:21:06
  raise their children into their 60s.
• 1:21:08
  Like, it's very reasonable to be
• 1:21:10
  this. It's too late in my life.
• 1:21:12
  I think we've said it before, but I think it's very obvious
• 1:21:15
  here that she does not want to have a baby.
• 1:21:19
  And she even uses past tense when she's talking about in
• 1:21:24
  vitro. It just makes me think,
• 1:21:26
  obviously, that the decision's already been made because you
• 1:21:29
  wouldn't be speaking in past tense at all.
• 1:21:31
  And then they're kind of both crying and Robyn says again, You
• 1:21:41
  have a choice, too. And then the party starts.
• 1:21:49
  Everybody. Yep, I love this show because
• 1:21:53
  then it's like, OK, there was this somber moment that we're
• 1:21:57
  supposed to maybe feel something, although what all I
• 1:22:03
  like party, everyone's here, hats are on, people are throwing
• 1:22:08
  family chaos. So everything seems disjointed
• 1:22:15
  fine. I didn't like.
• 1:22:16
  I need to move on. No, because this next part is so
• 1:22:24
  All I noticed was what they do next.
• 1:22:27
  Yes, Robyn has everyone write down their hopes and wishes for
• 1:22:31
  Sauls life on little pieces of paper, little whatever pieces of
• 1:22:39
  such an eloquent person. It's such a thoughtful,
• 1:22:41
  insightful person. Sometimes I just get disturbed
• 1:22:48
  Like, that's what you wrote down, you fucking moron.
• 1:22:51
  Yeah, but whatever. So they all write their well
• 1:22:54
  wishes on these pieces of paper and their goal.
• 1:22:56
  They're not doing anything cute with them, like, oh, let's put
• 1:23:02
  That's. What I thought they were going
• 1:23:04
  I totally thought that it was for him.
• 1:23:06
  Like when you are going to college, when you're where Logan
• 1:23:14
  family wrote down what they hoped for you in your life.
• 1:23:16
  Like that would be a thoughtful gift.
• 1:23:18
  Or put in his baby book A scrapbook.
• 1:23:20
  Yeah. Absolutely, but no.
• 1:23:22
  Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope. We got to add to the landfills.
• 1:23:27
  We got to add to the trash on
• 1:23:29
  the streets of Vegas. I was going to say, we're not
• 1:23:31
  even making it to the landfill.
• 1:23:32
  We're making it into the mouths of birds and into the lakes and
• 1:23:36
  the streams and the desert and the oceans and the forests.
• 1:23:40
  We are about to see something magical.
• 1:23:43
  Oh magical. They are going to tie these well
• 1:23:50
  Yes, they are. And we're going to walk out into
• 1:24:01
  I feel like Robyn's trying to remake the snowflake kite moment
• 1:24:10
  And now it's going to be this. It's going to be.
• 1:24:12
  Like remember that time And it's like, OK, I have been to a
• 1:24:16
  funeral for a an infant where we did this and it was very moving
• 1:24:20
  and touching because it was like, Oh my gosh, like a once in
• 1:24:27
  and let them go into the air for no reason to pollute and kill
• 1:24:32
  animals and Oh my God. And the balloons were like a one
• 1:24:36
  So they were all different colors.
• 1:24:38
  And it was red, yellow, blue, like all the priMeri colors.
• 1:24:42
  So dumb. It was so dumb.
• 1:24:44
  Yeah, I hate that shit. I do too.
• 1:24:47
  I honestly was like, I think we knew better at this time too.
• 1:24:51
  It's 2015. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we knew
• 1:24:53
  better. We knew better if it calls for
• 1:24:59
  In my opinion, this is definitely.
• 1:25:01
  This isn't even close to that. Well, they have different ways
• 1:25:06
  biodegradable balloons and like different things that you could
• 1:25:09
  do that are more environmentally friendly.
• 1:25:11
  I just think in 2015 there were probably better options.
• 1:25:16
  Oh yes, in 2015 I was aware that you're not just supposed to let
• 1:25:20
  balloons go into the atmosphere, but like I said, for
• 1:25:24
  a significant enough reason, I wouldn't say a word for this.
• 1:25:29
  Fuck you. Yep.
• 1:25:31
  Yep, Yep, Yep. We're getting close to the end
• 1:25:39
  episode. Where do we have to go?
• 1:25:41
  Where do we always end episodes and seasons and start seasons?
• 1:25:46
  We have to go to the cul-de-sac.
• 1:25:48
  Yet again. Oh my God.
• 1:25:50
  When they get to the cul-de-sac, Kody tells us that he's hoping
• 1:25:55
  So we're all going to draw names for gifts right here, right now
• 1:26:00
  for the holidays. We were told at the beginning of
• 1:26:05
  I understand the symbolism here. I think it's a bit much.
• 1:26:10
  I think it's 60 days before Christmas.
• 1:26:12
  So you're talking like almost two months before Christmas.
• 1:26:15
  Maybe that's not early. I don't know.
• 1:26:18
  I don't think I've ever drawn names for Christmas gifts at the
• 1:26:24
  got him. I wonder if she's still making
• 1:26:28
  She probably is, but that has nothing to do with this.
• 1:26:30
  I don't. Know who knows when this was
• 1:26:32
  actually shot too? It could have just been a good
• 1:26:36
  Yeah, that makes sense. Logan was there and I'm curious
• 1:26:40
  if Logan came home for Saul's birthday.
• 1:26:42
  You know when you go off to college and you are in November
• 1:26:45
  at the beginning of November of your first year of college?
• 1:26:47
  Are you going home for a one year old's birthday?
• 1:26:49
  It's only 30 minutes away. Yeah, I know.
• 1:26:52
  I'm such a bad person. I still would probably.
• 1:26:53
  No, I might. I probably would go home.
• 1:26:55
  What am I saying? I mean, it's Logan.
• 1:26:57
  He definitely would. Yeah, he's much better person
• 1:26:59
  than me. Yeah, they always draw names
• 1:27:02
  every year, I guess, for Christmas gifts.
• 1:27:04
  And it's an exciting thing to do.
• 1:27:06
  And everyone gets all jazzed about it.
• 1:27:08
  And so they thought it would be a good way to get the kids
• 1:27:13
  excited and keep them invested and keep the hope alive.
• 1:27:17
  And Christine literally says, like, yes, we're doing this to
• 1:27:25
  happening. Give them some hope.
• 1:27:26
  They have to keep giving their kids these.
• 1:27:29
  False. These things, I guess yes.
• 1:27:31
  Maybe it's not false, maybe it's just fabricated.
• 1:27:34
  I don't really know. It's weird.
• 1:27:37
  Leon says that all they want for Christmas is to be in the home.
• 1:27:42
  Yeah, I don't want anything else
• 1:27:44
  for Christmas. So selfless of Leon.
• 1:27:46
  That's what everyone says about Leon.
• 1:27:48
  Totally selfless. Anyway, another clip when
• 1:27:51
  they're going, they're showing a
• 1:27:54
  and Leon had this one. Another one that stood out to me
• 1:27:57
  that was so cute was Savannah.
• 1:28:00
  And she's sitting on the couch
• 1:28:02
  she's excited to walk to the other homes instead of asking
• 1:28:05
  for a ride. And she's like, I just don't
• 1:28:07
  want to. I have to ask my mom for a ride
• 1:28:09
  when I want to go over to Christine's house.
• 1:28:11
  And I was like, that's so adorable.
• 1:28:13
  And I have a soft spot for Savannah because she's so cute.
• 1:28:15
  Yes, other than the box of rocks, but.
• 1:28:18
  Well, she did ruin your life with that box of rocks.
• 1:28:20
  But, and you know, whoever she
• 1:28:25
  we'll have to see. We'll have to see.
• 1:28:26
  And it better be better be worth
• 1:28:30
  Better be better than a box of
• 1:28:32
  Oh my God, that's hilarious. Oh, Savannah, if you're if you
• 1:28:36
  ever listen to this as an adult,
• 1:28:39
  terrible things we've said about
• 1:28:42
  that your box of rocks severely damaged Kimber.
• 1:28:45
  But I'm OK with it. I'm fine.
• 1:28:47
  Oh my gosh, I just, it's one of the funnier things.
• 1:28:50
  Of course, you know, to wrap up the episode, the parents talk
• 1:28:53
  about being all in on making this happen for their family.
• 1:28:58
  They'll do whatever it takes, even work multiple jobs.
• 1:29:02
  Oh, that's right, Janelle says a
• 1:29:04
  Even if we have to work three jobs and it's like Robyn doesn't
• 1:29:06
  even work one job. Yeah, but also that has no like
• 1:29:11
  bearing on if the homes will be finished or not.
• 1:29:16
  What is your third job going to be going and working this
• 1:29:19
  fucking construction site? Hammers and nails, yeah.
• 1:29:23
  Making some holes in your walls so your kids can get in their
• 1:29:26
  bedrooms. It doesn't matter how many
• 1:29:27
  tricks Robyn turns on the street, their house is going to
• 1:29:30
  be done when it's done. Although maybe Robyn could go
• 1:29:33
  give the foreman at the construction site a little bonus
• 1:29:37
  for being done ahead of time. Oh there you go, that might help
• 1:29:41
  get things moving. Or he would just be like I never
• 1:29:44
  want to see this crazy bitch that offered me ABJ behind the
• 1:29:47
  toilet port a potty again. So we're going to finish these
• 1:29:49
  fucking homes now, everybody. And he will be dealing with that
• 1:29:53
  blowjob the rest of his life. Oh.
• 1:29:58
  Snap. OK darling.
• 1:30:00
  Oh, because he will just be so
• 1:30:03
  memories. Oh, this is all alleged.
• 1:30:04
  This is a story we're making up in our own minds.
• 1:30:06
  Our own imaginations are coming up with this.
• 1:30:09
  Robyn did not offer the foreman a blowjob behind the porta
• 1:30:13
  potty. OK, we made this up.
• 1:30:17
  Special shout out to our legal
• 1:30:19
  I think it's time for your mustard seed and shit stain.
• 1:30:22
  Which is funny because we are asking others to contribute
• 1:30:25
  their mustard seed and shit stain on this episode.
• 1:30:27
  Friendly reminder, if you're listening right now, pull up
• 1:30:30
  whatever you're listening to and
• 1:30:32
  Who's your mustard seed and who's your shit stain?
• 1:30:35
  We'll see if you have any similarities to ours.
• 1:30:38
  I have a suspicion that there will be.
• 1:30:40
  I am so excited to read these because this is one of those
• 1:30:43
  episodes where they're kind of
• 1:30:46
  Again, we talk about a few different things, so there's a
• 1:30:49
  lot of options here. Absolutely, there are some
• 1:30:52
  options. Would you like me to go first?
• 1:30:54
  OK. As is tradition sometimes.
• 1:31:01
  My shit stain. I'm going to start with a shit
• 1:31:03
  stain. Oh yes.
• 1:31:05
  It goes to Robyn. Oh, yeah.
• 1:31:07
  I don't think that's a shock at all, the surrogacy offer being
• 1:31:10
  brought up again. She just wanted to give, you
• 1:31:13
  know, an option to marry. Just wanted you to have the
• 1:31:17
  option. Yeah.
• 1:31:19
  OK, we get it, you want her to
• 1:31:22
  what decision she makes because she already said she'll feel
• 1:31:24
  guilty if she doesn't. But if she does, she's probably
• 1:31:27
  going to be, you know, your little bitch rest of her life.
• 1:31:30
  Like either way, Meri fails here.
• 1:31:33
  Same thing with the business. The business is failing.
• 1:31:37
  Robyn's going to start blaming
• 1:31:40
  she's not getting their support anymore.
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  Everyone's kind of backing out
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  So her business is failing. She is just a failure all the
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  way around and multiple senses
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  She won't take ownership for it.
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  Good shit stain. She's a shit stain.
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  My shit stain is going to go to her loving husband, her devoted
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  husband, Kody Brown, because he is filling Robyn's head with
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  delusions and illusions about this business.
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  And if he stopped doing that because he has said in this
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  episode that he doesn't even enjoy it.
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  So as far as a hobby business, he's not signed up.
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  But she is allowed to have this fucked up mindset because of
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  him, not only about the business, but about the
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  surrogacy with Meri. It's like he's continuing to put
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  And I guess in this episode they didn't knock us over the head
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  about him saying that they have to make a decision and blah,
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  blah, blah. But I feel like a big reason
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  Robyn gets to be so out of touch with reality is because Kody's
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  I'm just as crazy as you. I don't know if he did anything
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  all that terrible this episode as far as specific things.
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  Yeah, he feeds the delusions for sure, but then also him just
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  coming out and saying that he hates this and it's not fun for
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  him. I'm like, you have been egging
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  Janelle. He kind of doesn't ever help
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  them follow out their dreams, but gives them the false hope
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  that there could be a dream that plays out just like he does for
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  his fucking kids. And it could be the edit, but we
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  Christine doesn't like we need
• 1:33:42
  to be doing other things. He was more than happy to say
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  that to Christine last episode, being like, we're all stressed
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  and we're all whatever. But then when the other wives
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  are like, I think I should be doing something that's money
• 1:33:51
  making and probably more aligned
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  be backing that up. Then he.
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  Really should. He gets my shit stain.
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  Mustard seed, darling. What are you going to put in the
• 1:34:02
  ground and watch grow? I think that I have been doing
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  this a lot lately, but Christine
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  seed. Yeah, OK.
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  She is just, I don't know if she's been on one, like she's
• 1:34:16
  just been on one in a way that makes me happy.
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  She says something about the tight bond between Meri and
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  Robyn and how she's recognizing that she's going to have to put
• 1:34:28
  in more work and that it's a lot of work if she wants to have
• 1:34:33
  yourself here, OK? OK, OK, OK.
• 1:34:36
  She also comes out and says that she can see people's eyes
• 1:34:42
  glazing over when Robyn's giving her spiels to them.
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  And that had me cracking up because she's saying this stuff
• 1:34:51
  on the couch in front of Robyn. Like she's been saying this
• 1:34:57
  stuff and it's so funny to me. Christine says that if she's not
• 1:35:06
  her eyes and walk out, that she is showing support.
• 1:35:08
  So she says a couple of these really funny, almost just like
• 1:35:17
  She's just literally saying the the funniest shit that I'd be
• 1:35:21
  embarrassed to say in front of someone, Like, oh, I might hurt
• 1:35:24
  their feelings, but she just doesn't give a shit anymore.
• 1:35:26
  And I love that. And then she also has like, oh,
• 1:35:29
  the best little mistake ever getting my little library.
• 1:35:32
  Yes, yeah. That's true.
• 1:35:34
  That's true. She just was funny again this
• 1:35:36
  episode. I like her little quips she's
• 1:35:38
  been sharing with us lately. She did make me laugh out loud
• 1:35:43
  Yeah. My mustard seed is going to go
• 1:35:48
  seed for Janelle to water. She is earthy.
• 1:35:51
  She likes to do gardening. Love that.
• 1:35:54
  In the conversations, similar to like Christine, she's trying to
• 1:35:58
  be honest about how she needs to have income and that her
• 1:36:01
  interest is something that she already went and took courses,
• 1:36:12
  But she is letting Robyn know how it should be and what it
• 1:36:15
  should be, and I appreciate that.
• 1:36:16
  I also appreciated her joking about the Expo and when she was
• 1:36:22
  like, yeah, we've got to sell like 120 of these.
• 1:36:25
  And I'm not nervous about that at all.
• 1:36:27
  She looked right at the camera and it was at the Expo, Wasn't
• 1:36:35
  sitting in the booth area and Oh my God, that was great.
• 1:36:38
  She was being very honest and very funny about that.
• 1:36:40
  I also assumed that we didn't see footage of her home because
• 1:36:44
  she probably went with the flow.
• 1:36:45
  I mean, even the rooms that didn't have doors, she was OK
• 1:36:48
  with. You know, I guess maybe I have a
• 1:36:50
  little bit of a low bar for Janelle.
• 1:36:51
  I just need her to give me a little, a little a little
• 1:36:54
  something in an episode and I can give her my mustard seeds.
• 1:36:57
  So thank you for that, Janelle.
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  I think that her and Christine are both just kind of over shit
• 1:37:01
  in their own way and they're showing it in their own little
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  Our keep sweet moment this week comes to us from YouTube.
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  It is a comment from Sharon Brooks 1847.
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  Hi, Sharon Brooks, 1847. Hello.
• 1:37:17
  Sharon Brooks 1847 says, I'm so glad I found your channel.
• 1:37:24
  This is so cool :). And I just want to say to Sharon
• 1:37:32
  Welcome. You better tell us who your
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  mustard seed and shit stain is this week, otherwise I'm going
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  Week, Episode 2 of Season 6. Not sure if we'll know our
• 1:37:49
  winners. We won't know our winners of the
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  you have up until the next episode drops to give us your
• 1:37:57
  mustard seed and shit stain. So just a quick reminder,
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  YouTube, Spotify, Patreon, go on to this episode.
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  Leave us your mustard seed and shit stain.
• 1:38:08
  Kimber's going to do random drawings, yes, and give away 2
• 1:38:16
  You're going to want these, you're going to want to hang
• 1:38:18
  them in your kitchen, your bathroom, and I'm going to make
• 1:38:21
  them with a cricket. And you pointed out that Meri
• 1:38:26
  was using on the mirror in the Expo.
• 1:38:30
  She was putting a decal on with what looked like a cut out from
• 1:38:34
  a cricket. So you know what?
• 1:38:36
  Meri possessed me and I am just ready to get down with the
• 1:38:41
  Browns and make these towels for y'all.
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  This isn't the first time the Spirit of Meri has possessed
• 1:38:46
  you. No, usually it's the spirit of