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#114 - Vince Perri - Authenticity, AI, & Entrepreneurship · The Chris and Mike Show

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  This and lecture we're coming to you live on YouTube from the
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  go 6O2253411994199 sooner or later I'll get that right you
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  know Hey hey hey Brian hey we got Vince Perry is the high seat
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  or Perry. Vince Perry.
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  Vince Perry with us today and we're actually simultaneously
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  going live on YouTube. Like I just said, you can find
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  us on Instagram, Facebook as well.
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  And we are working on the Chris and mikeshow.com.
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  So be patient for that. Welcome to the show, Vince.
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  How are you? I'm doing pretty good.
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  Chris, Mike, how are you guys? Nice to meet you, Vince.
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  Thanks for coming on man. For sure man, it's my pleasure.
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  Thank you for the invitation. I really appreciate it.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we do, man.
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  So tell us a little bit about yourself, and then we'll just
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  dive into, you know, deep intellectual conversation.
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  Oh, I mean, what do you want to know?
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  You want to know successes? You want to know rock bottom?
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  Do you want to know? When so kind of give us an idea
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  of who you are, what you're about as far as like you know,
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  in your current everyday, what do you do?
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  You know, what kind of message are you trying to get out there?
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  And we'll start from there. Yes, I'm what you would probably
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  call a serial entrepreneur constantly.
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  I love create, I love creating things and I love mentorship and
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  leadership. So it kind of runs hand in hand
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  with entrepreneurship is because you're constantly just coming up
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  in your crazy brain of new ideas and different things that you
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  want to do and problems to solve and all of these things.
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  It's like, oh, that's a great idea, let me go ahead and do it.
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  And then I've always been very high execution where like if I
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  say I'm going to do something, I'm going to get it done and I
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  get it done. And then I was also a tennis
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  coach for 15 years where I taught kids from 4 to 94.
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  That's what I always say. I taught some elite athletes as
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  well. So coaching.
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  And then my mom was a a elementary school teacher and
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  guidance counselor. My uncle was a, was a elementary
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  school teacher and, and child psychologist.
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  So like that whole thing is just sort of like been in my blood.
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  So like coaching, mentorship, stuff like that, you know, mixed
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  with the creative spirit that I've got of just wanting to
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  create different things. It's just always blended
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  together and just always turned into a company.
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  OK, let me ask you this. In the entrepreneurship side of
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  your life, what would you consider your biggest success
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  story and your biggest failure? My biggest success story is
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  probably just the impact that I've made on a lot of people.
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  Like, I know it's kind of general, but being able to lead
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  a group of people and just sort of lead them all and all of us
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  just moving in the same direction, when all of that's
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  clicking, it's just like a beautiful thing, man.
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  I just never seen anything like it.
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  There's like, I don't wouldn't compare it to I know you guys
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  are music guys, so I wouldn't compare it to a high on getting
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  on stage. But it's like that where it's
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  just like when you know, just everything's going right.
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  It's just like money, man. No, but where it would compare
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  is having the hive mind. We all have to be on the same
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  page at the exact same time to make that happen, right?
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  If there's one person that's not clicking that particular night,
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  that will drag the whole thing down South.
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  I can relate to it on that level for sure, yeah.
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  And from an entre and from an entre entrepreneur, I can't
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  speak today Entrepreneurship it's.
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  A tough word. Big words I'm actually for, for
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  lack of, I mean realistically that's what I am because I've
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  been selling houses for 25 years.
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  So, you know, nobody finds me unless I'm out there presenting
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  myself to the world. So same kind of mindset, like my
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  high from what I do is, is when I actually get those buyers
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  under contract because I get that negotiation going on.
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  And once the negotiation finalized and, and you know, the
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  terms and conditions meld together, that's that's where my
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  excitement comes in. Like, you know, especially my
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  first timers, because they think it's so far away from being able
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  to become a homeowner and build that wealth, at least start
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  building that wealth because, you know, wealth is built in
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  real estate from part of that aspect.
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  That's exciting to me. That's where I get that dopamine
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  high that, you know, runner's high, if you call it, because
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  even though, you know, athlete, my wife and I have probably
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  done, you know, 100 races, 60 of them being at least half
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  marathons. I never really got runner's
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  high. But I started noticing that
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  every time I got those first timers under contract.
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  Like that was the thing, man, that was the excitement.
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  That was the, you know, the juice.
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  Oh, let's do this again, you know, So I get what you're doing
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  what you're saying, because it is, it's cool to build things
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  in, in, you know, get to the point with me.
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  Like, like she asked me the other day.
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  We we were getting lit up with requests to be on the show.
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  She's like, how are they having fun?
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  I'm like, I do is Google me. I'm like, I had somebody Google
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  my license plate one time in a parking lot and because it's an
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  acronym for real estate guy, all my stuff came up.
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  So they called me. You're parked in the wrong spot.
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  You know, it's funny you say that though, because I just
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  heard somebody say the other day on a podcast, I was listening to
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  that same thing where she's still at kind of as a mindset.
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  We were all there at one time, right where we were trying to be
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  private while we were online and everybody is has abandoned.
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  I mean, I'm still a little in on Nikki side where, you know,
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  every now and then I'm like, do I really want to do that?
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  And then you wow, my name's been out there for at least 1015
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  years now online. We're doing everything online.
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  If you're going to get hacked, you're going to get hacked at
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  this point, you know? Yeah, I don't carry a business
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  card around anymore. I just don't.
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  I got AI, got a virtual card. But like even then I'm just like
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  just I'm so easy to find. Just literally just search my
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  name, find me. Yeah, I carry business cards
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  only when I'm showing houses and when I first meet somebody
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  because I'm still old school like that.
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  But I put them on every counter when I show houses.
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  And the reason behind that is? I've got this.
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  I've got this thing called Blink BLINQ.
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  It's been a game changer. Really.
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  Yeah, I freaking love it. It's it comes with the whole UR,
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  the whole code and stuff like that.
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  But you put all your information and it saves right onto their
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  phone. But the beauty is whether they
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  save it or not, you get their information.
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  Oh, hey. And then it comes like in a
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  list. So like these are the contacts
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  of just like the last event that I went to.
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  So now I can follow up with them.
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  Oh, that's a oh, so you just bump phones basically.
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  Yeah, that's it. I just pulled it up.
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  That's cool. So is it kind of so it's like I
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  have link tree so. I and it's free.
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  That way. Oh, that's even better.
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  Yes. That's my favorite 4 letter
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  word, yes. It's free.
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  Wow, I love it. I love it.
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  Somebody introduced that to me a couple weeks ago.
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  Like, like literally it's like a month ago and I've been, I've
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  been braving about it. Wonder how they do that free
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  because I'm looking at the I'm looking at the 2.5 million
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  people across 500,000 companies using it and some of the
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  companies that are on this thing are insane.
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  I don't know but the guy that told me he's like it's free,
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  don't pay for the paid version. The free is good enough and I've
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  been using the free and it is maybe there's like a Max of
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  contacts who knows. I'm sure there's that maybe
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  there that could probably happen, but I'm not there yet.
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  I bet that's it. I bet corporations are footing
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  the bill because they probably have 500 people on it.
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  Like Vince said, you know, when you get to the paid version, you
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  probably have to pay to have that many contacts.
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  So they're probably footing the bill for the rest of us, which
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  is awesome. Which?
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  Is great. Can you customize it?
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  Because I see on I'm on their page and OK, OK.
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  So limited on the customizations too, Like there's like a four or
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  five different customizations, which is fine by me.
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  And you could put all your information and it looks super
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  rad to be honest. Like it's just like it's got all
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  the stuff. You can put all your social
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  media accounts as well on there, which is really cool.
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  I love it. It's cool, yeah, because the.
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  Entrepreneurs out there, what is that?
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  Again, blink, blink BLINQ. Very cool.
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  It does have a link down here that says start your free 30 day
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  trial. So maybe they're maybe they're
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  expanding. Oh my gosh, you can sync your
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  CRM with this thing in seconds. That's insane.
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  Maybe getting excited, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Well, the CRM part of it, maybe that's the, that's where you're
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  going to have to pay because you know someone like me that has a
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  database that would be a trip to be able to just wow.
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  That's pretty cool. So then you can put them into
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  your CRM and then you can start putting them into like that
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  e-mail nurture or something like that for your newsletter.
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  For those of us not in the know, what is CRM?
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  Client retention management. So it's.
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  It's the software you use for your business to keep track of
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  clients. Yep.
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  OK. Basically like if you were still
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  here in Arizona, you'd you'd and still living in the house I sold
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  you, Mike, years and years ago, you'd be getting drips.
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  You'd. Be Where do you guys live?
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  I live in Arizona. Illinois, Tampa.
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  There you go. Wow, we span in the country.
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  Again, we totally span in the country.
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  We're literally like, and I see our boxes are like here, here.
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  It's like exactly where we live. Oh, that is there you go and you
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  guys just kind of I just if you're a football fan, I just
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  saw this morning that that Tampa Bay you you guys resigned your
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  coach in GM. Yeah, so I'm I will never claim
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  Tampa. I am born and raised in the
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  county of Dade, Miami, FL. OK, so Dolphins.
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  All day, unfortunately. I've been here for seven years
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  though. Well, you did win what Dolphins
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  have won one Super Bowl, right? And they have the they have the
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  the legacy of the undefeated. Season defeated season.
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  Yeah, I mean, I'm over it though.
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  I'm over. It I know.
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  Yeah, I wasn't alive. I had.
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  The 85 bears? Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Yeah, see, I have at least I have the the, the Giants on my
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  side where it's. Everybody's got theirs.
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  I'm like the only guy that doesn't have it.
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  It's been so fucking long. Can I curse?
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  You can curse. You can.
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  Ridiculous, man. It shows you're human, man.
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  It's 15 years, season ticket holder, guys, 15 years and you
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  don't want to know what my highlight was.
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  It's Greg Camarillo running down the sideline all the way,
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  scoring a touchdown in overtime for the one win of the season.
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  The one, it was one in 15 so that we didn't go O in 16.
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  See, that would have been a nice little thing flip flop, right?
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  We're the we're, you know, the only undefeated perfect Steven
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  ever. And oh, by the way, now we
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  actually never won a game this season.
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  Like the book, end of it book and in book ending the legacy of
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  the Dolphins. My other highlight is the one
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  playoff game that I went to, OK, Chad Pennington's at
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  quarterback. Yeah, yeah.
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  And I've got, I'm probably like I'm row 6 corner end zone and
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  I'm with my cousin and we're like, we're always like watching
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  like, you know, we pretend like we know we're talking about
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  we're watching exes. And I swear to God guys,
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  Pennington steps back and we're like corner.
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  So we're behind him. Dude.
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  I, I see Ed Reed in the corner and me and my cousin just were
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  like, no, Pennington doesn't fucking see him and just throws
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  it. And Ed Reed does his Ed Reed
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  thing and he just comes across Pick 6.
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  And we were just like, we saw it and Chad didn't see it.
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  That's my that's my one playoff memory.
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  OK. But see, that's so true, right?
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  When you're watching football, you see things on the couch or
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  in the stadium that you don't understand why the quarterback
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  doesn't see it. Because you have an overhead
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  view. Yeah, for sure.
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  Yeah. I mean, I mean, I was, I was a
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  huge chat, chat painting. I mean, that season was fun
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  because we actually won and we went to the playoffs, but I
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  don't even think we won a playoff game in the last.
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  Like I was telling my friends that my friends are still like,
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  oh, Dolphins. I'm just like, dude, I'm so over
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  it. Like we're just cursed.
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  Did you know that that stadium is built on an Indian burial
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  ground? No.
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  I did not. We're fucking cursed.
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  You guys really got me going. No, that's cool.
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  We're football fans. So, so here's a question for you
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  then. Since you're a lifelong Dolphins
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  fan, what are your thoughts on Dan Marino?
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  Well, The funny thing about that is that I didn't really become a
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  Dolphins fan until I actually graduated high school.
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  I was, my parents weren't huge football fans, so for some
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  reason they were all in on the 49ers because in the 80s they
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  were winning the Super Bowl. They were winning on the Super
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  Bowl. So I go away for high school and
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  I go to the school called Slippery Rock University.
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  You ever heard of it? No.
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  Small school outside of Pennsylvania lights up.
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  Sorry. Small school outside of
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  Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania. I was playing tennis.
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  I was playing college tennis for them.
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  OK, OK. It was like the one school in
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  the country I went, I got a degree in sports management and
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  that was like one of the top rated schools.
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  Super small, but a top rated school in sports management.
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  So I go to that school and if I would have gotten a dollar for
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  every time somebody asked me what the fuck are you doing here
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  because I'm from Miami, FL not Miami.
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  OH, right, Miami, FL and I'm in Slippery Rock, 2 traffic lights
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  in the whole town, 45 minutes outside of Pittsburgh.
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  And I just, yeah, I became really proud of my city as like,
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  oh, Miami, Miami. And then I just became a huge
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  Dolphin fan because I wanted to represent my city.
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  And then when I came back, my dad was nice enough to give me
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  with one season of season tickets and then I took it from
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  there and I just became, I mean, I'm a die hard, I'm not even a
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  big sports fan anymore that much.
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  I'm so focused on like family and business and stuff like
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  that. But the Dolphins I sit down for,
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  I mean, the Dolphins are like my thing.
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  That's cool. Got to have a thing man.
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  Got to have a thing. So let's talk a little bit about
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  what you do now, because again, before you came on the show, I
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  noticed you were live on Facebook doing AQ and a session.
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  Now when you do that, are you live on YouTube as well or just
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  Facebook? Yeah, I go on stream Yard, so I
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  do. I do YouTube, Instagram and
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  Facebook OK the same time. And is that all?
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  Is that tide stream yard? I've never heard of that.
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  So can you do all the? Same thing as Riverside.
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  Oh, OK, OK. I think Riverside can do it.
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  I know we're we're we're streaming live right now on
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  YouTube. Every time we we have some in
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  the show, we go live on YouTube. So simultaneously right now and
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  there's a little bit of a delay, but.
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  Can you go live on different social media channels?
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  Yeah, we're also on Twitch. You can go on anyone you want as
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  long as you have the URL. Right.
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  So there we are live on YouTube. It's a little bit of a delay.
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  Like I think you're talking about how bad the Dolphins are.
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  Probably. But I got the giants, man, so I
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  feel you, OK? Dude, you win every 10 years,
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  Chris. Chris, you win every 10 years.
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  Do it. Do they do the math?
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  We've been waiting since 85. South, Who's your team, Mike?
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  The Bears. The Bears.
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  The bears. The bears are pretty bad.
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  The bears are pretty bad too. I'm not going to lie.
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  They. Turned a little bit though they.
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  Got we Every year. Every year my buddies and I get
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  together and we try to go to an away game and we went to the
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  Chicago game a couple years back.
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  And they were really bad a couple years back.
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  Yeah, but that son of a bitch quarterback ran all over us.
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  We got the win, but they ran. Oh, that was Jeff Fields.
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  He went off. Yeah, OK.
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  You. Remember that game?
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  I do remember it now that you bring it to my.
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  He went off. I think he had over 200 yards
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  rushing. Some craziness.
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  We could not stop him for nothing.
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  But that offense was terrible. Oh, it's terrible.
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  I think he, I think he broke the record for the least amount of
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  time to throw the ball after the snap.
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  Probably. You know, like over an average
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  of the season, he had less time to throw than any other
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  quarterback in the history of the NFL.
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  That's how bad the offensive line was.
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  I was screaming like, just tackle.
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  He was so fast. So fast, so fast.
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  OK, OK. So that was my scroll moment.
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  Let's go back to what you what you do and and your your Q&A.
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  Now you do the Q&A sessions live every day or is it specifically
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  once a week? What?
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  No, my show we do. I do a podcast on Mondays which
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  is. Podcast.
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  It is. It's on the YouTube show.
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  It's at YouTube official, at YouTube, at Vince Perry
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  official. It's called Beyond the Claim.
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  OK, beyond the. Claim I was a public adjuster
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  for 16 years and I recently made a switch to like not do that
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  anymore. OK, because the industry is
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  dying. So that's on Mondays is the
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  guest show, Wednesdays is my solo show, and then Fridays I go
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  live. OK, so we have beyond the claim
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  on Mondays and then the Vince Perry show on Wednesdays.
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  Is there you you show have a name or just your name?
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  Just my name right now, my goal's been, I've kind of
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  switched to the personal brand. That's like the thing that I've
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  noticed a lot of people doing. So I try to just name everything
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  by my name. And I'm trying to really explode
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  that and really get the word out there just about
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  entrepreneurship, business, scaling your business.
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  And ultimately what I do for a living and what I'm scaling
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  right now is the exit strategy business brokering side of it.
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  OK. So if you were to, if Mike, you
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  had a company and you wanted to sell it to somebody else, you'd
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  basically hire a broker to market it for you and find a
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  buyer and broker the entire deal.
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  OK. OK.
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  So that's what you're kind of going into now.
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  Yeah. But along with that, I created a
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  product that we're selling called the Valley Clarity
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  Report. And then from there, there's a
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  subscription model to increase the value of your business so
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  you can get to that dream number that you want to sell for.
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  Oh. Right on.
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  That's cool. That is cool.
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  That's one of that's one of many millions of businesses you've
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  created. Not millions of businesses, but
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  definitely there's been several and several failures, that's for
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  sure. Well, you know, like we say,
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  it's not how you fall, it's how you get back up, right?
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  Well, I'm really good at getting back up.
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  I will admit that because I read that every time I hear that or
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  read that, I'm just like, all right, well, I think I've got
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  that down. I don't.
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  I don't normally spend too much time down and out.
• 17:06
  I tell people that you could have try not to have bad days or
• 17:09
  bad weeks and obviously not bad months.
• 17:11
  Try to have bad moments because get the moment and then you
• 17:15
  realize it, you see it, you feel it, you hear it, listen to it
• 17:17
  and then move it along. Yeah, I've had the have the
• 17:21
  mindset of it's from Brian Buffini, which is a real estate
• 17:24
  coach guru that you win the day. So you you win every moment.
• 17:27
  You to win the day you got to win.
• 17:28
  There's 24 hours in a day, right?
• 17:30
  So you got to win the majority of those hours in that day to
• 17:31
  win the day. Then if you win the week, again,
• 17:34
  you have seven days a week. So you got to win, you know, the
• 17:36
  majority. So you got to win at least four
• 17:37
  days that week and then win the month, you know, a certain
• 17:40
  amount of days in the month, 1617 days in the month
• 17:42
  depending, and then you got to win the year.
• 17:45
  Yeah. And for me, I got like, I got
• 17:47
  like 5 things that I have to do pretty much every day.
• 17:50
  And it's like I, I need to exercise.
• 17:53
  I need to, I need to exercise. I obviously need to eat right.
• 17:55
  I need to read for at least 30 minutes a day.
• 17:59
  I need to review my goals. Something that I've implemented
• 18:04
  that that right there has been a game changer over the last six
• 18:07
  months or so. It's just not just setting the
• 18:10
  goals because too many of us set the goals and then never
• 18:12
  freaking look at them again. So I review them every morning
• 18:16
  and every evening and sometimes during the day.
• 18:18
  I've even written a story for myself of like my ultimate life
• 18:21
  of what it's going to look like, the big ass house on the water
• 18:25
  and the Corvette and all that stuff.
• 18:27
  I've written that story out in present tense.
• 18:30
  So I'll read that and then and then as far as the social media
• 18:35
  personal brand and the business, I have to post on social media
• 18:37
  three times a day. OK.
• 18:39
  And I have to do 5 opens. An open is basically me reaching
• 18:45
  out to you guys to be on your podcast, me reaching out to
• 18:48
  someone who just followed me who might be a potential client,
• 18:53
  stuff like that. Cool, that's.
• 18:55
  Cool. You'll be surprised.
• 18:56
  Everybody that likes, everybody that likes and comments and
• 18:58
  follows you on social media is obviously somebody that's
• 19:01
  interested in what you are, what you are sort of providing,
• 19:05
  whether that be just for the content, which is cool.
• 19:08
  And I asked the question, I'm like, hey, do you want to scale
• 19:10
  your business to sell it one day or you just here for the
• 19:12
  content? So I qualify them right there.
• 19:15
  Nice. And if they're just here for the
• 19:16
  content, like cool. Thanks so much for following.
• 19:18
  I really appreciate it. Yeah, I like to call that like
• 19:20
  levels, levels of engagement, right?
• 19:23
  At what level did they engage? Did they engage?
• 19:26
  Because I posted it? You know, that was a guest they
• 19:29
  liked, right? They don't give a shit about
• 19:31
  Chris or I. They care about that guest.
• 19:33
  So that's the minimal level of engagement and that's cool.
• 19:36
  That's awesome. Glad, glad they were on there.
• 19:38
  A Vince Perry fan, right, Right. And then there is a level where
• 19:43
  there are just a Chris or just a mic or a both of us fan.
• 19:46
  You know, I found there's just levels of why people stop by to
• 19:49
  listen to what you have to offer.
• 19:51
  So I like the way you explained that.
• 19:53
  I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm definitely, I've been
• 19:56
  doing the podcast now. I took a little bit the the
• 19:59
  Wednesday show. I haven't missed a Wednesday in
• 20:01
  five years. And that's just to remind people
• 20:03
  that's your personal stuff. That's the solo show.
• 20:05
  Well, it's all in the same channel though.
• 20:07
  Right. Well, sure.
• 20:08
  The solo show we, we made a rule with the team or like it doesn't
• 20:12
  matter if there's a freaking war in Iran or if there is whatever
• 20:17
  tragic event that could possibly happen like every Wednesday
• 20:20
  you're coming out with that show.
• 20:22
  The Monday, the podcast, we used to sort of do it every once in a
• 20:25
  while, this and that. But my point that I wanted to
• 20:28
  make is that one thing I've learned with having a guest on,
• 20:31
  and it's the same thing like when you're watching a sports
• 20:33
  guest or you're watching normally when you have a guest
• 20:35
  on, it's something it's like, it's our responsibility as the
• 20:39
  interviewers to just like let the guests shine.
• 20:41
  You know what I'm saying? I've seen a lot of podcasts
• 20:44
  where it's, it's the, it's the host talking over the guests a
• 20:48
  lot and interrupting them a lot. And I learned that after
• 20:51
  watching a few podcasts, I'm like, OK, I'm going to have just
• 20:54
  one rule and it's just going to be to shut the fuck up.
• 20:57
  Stop right there. Stop right there.
• 21:00
  You just hit my hot button issue.
• 21:02
  Because what I hate is when I'm listening to a podcast and
• 21:06
  someone is making a brilliant fucking point and in the middle
• 21:10
  of that point that might last five minutes, here's what you
• 21:12
  hear. Yeah, that's great.
• 21:17
  Oh, spectacular. I don't.
• 21:21
  I don't mind that it's a nervous.
• 21:22
  Fucking tick man and it drives me nuts.
• 21:25
  I don't mind that as much as what happens.
• 21:27
  What I, what I notice is that if someone says something
• 21:31
  interesting and you as the guest, like you could relate to
• 21:34
  it and you want to, you just interject with your comment
• 21:37
  because you find it so interesting.
• 21:39
  What happens at is that it derails them.
• 21:43
  It it derails the guest. And then they're like just
• 21:47
  reacting to what you just said when you don't know what was
• 21:50
  going to be said like in the next 30 seconds or one minute.
• 21:54
  And every time I catch myself wanting to say something,
• 21:57
  especially because I don't want to forget.
• 21:59
  That's the hard part about being a host as you forget is I'll,
• 22:03
  I'll stop myself. And then a lot of times what
• 22:06
  comes after that is gold. By not derailing them, you know.
• 22:12
  And I agree with that side of it, too.
• 22:13
  You don't want to miss the point that the guest had.
• 22:16
  I think one thing, you know, Chris was on the radio.
• 22:19
  For how long were you on? A year on iheart Real Talk USA
• 22:23
  with the real estate guy. And he said initially that was
• 22:26
  one of the one things that he learned right off the bat was
• 22:29
  you know how to fill that space without being annoying.
• 22:32
  And it is tough. You have to know where you need
• 22:35
  to interject to keep the guest going, to not derail them.
• 22:39
  That was a good way to put it, you know.
• 22:41
  Yeah, it's tough. It's definitely tough.
• 22:43
  And our approach to this too is, is we don't interview anybody.
• 22:46
  We have conversations. So when people reach out, want
• 22:48
  to be on the show, it's like, I want to be interviewed.
• 22:49
  Well, that's not what we do. Go watch a couple episodes and
• 22:52
  understand how we approach this because it's the same concept,
• 22:55
  Vince, We want, we want you to share your knowledge and drop
• 22:58
  your knowledge bombs. And we want you to plug yourself
• 23:00
  and what you're doing, your business as your avenues, how
• 23:02
  people find you, which is why am I asked?
• 23:04
  You know, and that's important because I mean, I love the
• 23:08
  conversations we have, but I also, Mike and I both want to
• 23:10
  help whoever we're we're talking to get their stuff out there.
• 23:15
  And, you know, when this is all said, then you're going to have
• 23:17
  10 to 15 shorts just from the show, which, and you can use
• 23:20
  this however you want, right? And, but that's the benefit of
• 23:25
  it. It's, it's, it's, it's not just
• 23:28
  we want this for us. We, we wanted, Mike wanted to do
• 23:31
  this because we have such a long friendship together and and we
• 23:34
  know each other so well. But it was also a way to just
• 23:37
  have conversations and meet new people like you and just, you
• 23:41
  know, everybody helps everybody. You know, we, we don't, if
• 23:44
  you've watched some of our stuff, which I'm sure you have,
• 23:46
  it's never really about us. I mean, our stuff kind of pops
• 23:48
  in there because of the conversation leads there, but
• 23:50
  it's not like, oh, look at us, look at us.
• 23:52
  You know, it's like, let's look at vents and let's have a
• 23:55
  conversation around what he does.
• 23:57
  Well, I think it's good to know too that this show's more
• 23:59
  conversational. So then it's OK.
• 24:00
  Like my show is very, it's more interview.
• 24:03
  Like I have a list of questions. I do research, I do a little bit
• 24:07
  of research before and I get sort of everything sort of, I
• 24:11
  mean, it doesn't take me long. It's like 10 minutes like prep
• 24:13
  and stuff like that. But I get a good idea of what I
• 24:15
  want to ask. And I'm, I'm interject.
• 24:17
  I'm not interject. I'm like, I'm, I'm elaborating a
• 24:19
  little bit on what they say. But for the most part, it's a
• 24:21
  lot of questions. Yeah, I'm much more.
• 24:23
  Mine's probably much more interview style.
• 24:25
  And there's nothing wrong with that.
• 24:26
  I listen to a lot of podcasts like that.
• 24:28
  Because that's how you learn, right?
• 24:30
  I would consider that a podcast I would go to, to be educated.
• 24:34
  And that's where Rogan became an enigma.
• 24:37
  Because you get educated and you laugh your ass off at the same
• 24:40
  time and sometimes cry. And you know, it just, it became
• 24:44
  something bigger than him and it just, it's its own entity.
• 24:49
  Chris described this perfectly. Because being in a band together
• 24:53
  thousands of times, practice would end, the gig would end,
• 24:58
  and there was always the aftermath, right?
• 25:00
  And for me, that was almost more fun than being on stage
• 25:03
  sometimes because the conversations that would ensue
• 25:07
  in those hours after we were done being hyper creative,
• 25:10
  right? So all the energies flowing
• 25:12
  through all four of us or however many people are sitting
• 25:15
  in that particular circle at the time, and just the conversations
• 25:19
  that would happen. I missed that, you know, and he
• 25:23
  was the first person I thought of because he was there for all
• 25:26
  of them, right? You know who initiated a lot of
• 25:29
  these conversations? Chris?
• 25:30
  Myself, the guys in the band, right?
• 25:32
  It's. A.
• 25:34
  Beautiful thing, the podcast thing right I.
• 25:36
  Fucking it is. And what Rogan did, man, wow his
• 25:39
  show. My idea was that same initial
• 25:42
  starting that he had where he was sitting on a couch.
• 25:44
  I'm like, yeah, imagine sitting on a couch acting like you've
• 25:48
  known these people forever and getting to know who they are and
• 25:51
  what makes them creative and what made what made Vince want
• 25:54
  to come on here and tell the world his story, right?
• 25:57
  Because not everybody wants to do that.
• 25:59
  I found that as well. And Chris has found that as
• 26:01
  well. It's like they might reach out
• 26:03
  to you, but then when push comes to shove and like, hey, you're
• 26:06
  going to come on the show. Oh, wait, I don't know.
• 26:08
  I'm not really ready for that. And that's fine too.
• 26:11
  Yeah, nobody has time for those people.
• 26:14
  That's a boring show if you're not going to come out and just,
• 26:17
  you know, say it like it is. That's funny.
• 26:21
  Yeah, Rogan, man. Wow, talk about a visionary.
• 26:24
  Like he did the podcast before anybody even knew what a podcast
• 26:28
  was. But you know who he would credit
• 26:30
  is Adam Corolla and Tom Green. Yeah, because they were on his
• 26:34
  show a lot in the beginning, right.
• 26:35
  And they gave him the no Tom Green.
• 26:37
  That's right. That's right.
• 26:37
  I know that's. Right built an entire television
• 26:40
  studio in his basement, and Rogan saw it with his own eyes
• 26:44
  because they were friends. And he went, Jesus, you have a
• 26:46
  television studio in your basement.
• 26:48
  He said Podcast. Huge cables running, you know,
• 26:51
  because you had to have all this big time equipment back then.
• 26:54
  Probably cost him, I don't know, half a million or $1,000,000 to
• 26:58
  do that. Well, you can afford it at the
• 27:00
  time. Absolutely.
• 27:01
  He was making good money being on television.
• 27:03
  But Rogan would just like I would attribute my success as a
• 27:07
  musician to the many people who taught me about what it took to
• 27:10
  be a musician, which is far more than knowing how to play.
• 27:13
  That's just a given. He would credit these people
• 27:16
  like Adam Corolla. They call him the pod father.
• 27:18
  He did the first podcast that anybody knows of, really.
• 27:22
  And then, yeah. And then Tom Green, of course,
• 27:25
  and Adam Corolla, of course, because after Adam got kicked
• 27:29
  off that Love Line show, he ended up doing a podcast because
• 27:33
  he had a mountain of bills to cover from being a rich man and
• 27:39
  all of a sudden, you know, he doesn't have any income.
• 27:42
  He turned to podcasting as well. So that was all before Rogan and
• 27:45
  he's been really good about attributing that, you know,
• 27:48
  that's. Interesting.
• 27:49
  I wasn't the first I saw these guys doing this and I thought it
• 27:53
  would be a cool idea, so I had some time on my hands and the
• 27:57
  rest is history because he started out with a laptop and a
• 27:59
  couch in his office, just like Chris is sitting there right
• 28:02
  now. And I remember him telling that
• 28:03
  story too, because he had been on Fear Factor and he had been
• 28:07
  on What's that show? News Radio, News Radio.
• 28:11
  And he was just sick and tired of all the all the Hollywood
• 28:14
  bullshit too. And he liked the idea of just
• 28:16
  being off away from all of that stuff.
• 28:19
  But he had what he called fuck you money from fear factor.
• 28:22
  He didn't have to ever work another day in his.
• 28:23
  Life he had fuck you money. Those checks just keep rolling
• 28:26
  in. Well, he and so as along with
• 28:29
  News Radio too, because that's still in syndication.
• 28:31
  It is that. Was a great show.
• 28:33
  Yeah, yeah, it's still, it's still reruns.
• 28:35
  Yep. Yeah.
• 28:36
  That's what I remember him from. That's I remember Joe Rogan.
• 28:38
  I do too. Yeah, I watch that in.
• 28:40
  The 90s for sure, yeah, yeah. Phil Hartman.
• 28:42
  I mean, such a great cast, man Andy Dick, that redhead chick,
• 28:47
  you know, there's so many little, the characters, the guy.
• 28:49
  Andy Dickens the. Kathy Griffin, that's what.
• 28:52
  It was Kathy Griffin, the one. Yeah, she did that.
• 28:53
  She did the Donald Trump thing. That's right.
• 28:56
  The guy that ran the station, Stephen Root.
• 28:59
  Yeah, Stephen. One of the best character actors
• 29:01
  in Hollywood. Right, right.
• 29:03
  Do you remember that TV show Barry on HBO?
• 29:05
  Absolutely. Yes.
• 29:07
  Yeah, he was on that. He was the.
• 29:09
  I forget what he was to bury, but yeah, just he.
• 29:11
  Was unjustified. Who are you talking about, Mike?
• 29:13
  What's the name? Stephen Root.
• 29:15
  Stephen Root. He was the owner of the radio
• 29:18
  station right on News Radio, The Eccentric.
• 29:21
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's great.
• 29:23
  He's great. Yeah, yeah.
• 29:25
  I don't remember him on News Radio.
• 29:27
  I don't remember him on News Radio.
• 29:29
  He was younger, but he's still. Kind of space, yeah.
• 29:32
  Oh yeah, he was building an office.
• 29:34
  Space. Well, he's the stapler guy.
• 29:35
  Yeah, that's that's why I really remember him.
• 29:38
  The stapler. Guy about that.
• 29:39
  That was yeah, yeah. Barry I never got into.
• 29:43
  I know the show but I never got into it.
• 29:45
  I liked it from the simple fact that it was it was a twist on on
• 29:48
  being a a hired hit man. Right, right.
• 29:51
  It just, it just A twist on it was interesting because Mike and
• 29:54
  I are kind of we, we like the whole serial killer, you know,
• 29:58
  stuff and the weird things like my wife is all into crime.
• 30:02
  Why are these women all into this stuff?
• 30:04
  I don't get it. My wife too.
• 30:05
  It's the weirdest thing in. Case they need to get rid of us
• 30:08
  I think. I guess I don't.
• 30:09
  I, I look and I'm like, why do you watch this?
• 30:11
  She's like, I like it. I'm like OK.
• 30:13
  I'm getting educated. Nikki goes through cycles where
• 30:15
  she she'll be in the bathroom getting ready for the day and
• 30:17
  and you'll have like SUV on law and orders.
• 30:20
  Right now she's got I'm looking at her because she's in the
• 30:22
  laundry room. She's watching Bridgeton right
• 30:25
  now. Again, Vince asked why do women
• 30:28
  get into the into the crime shows?
• 30:30
  What's your answer to that? Helping us in.
• 30:36
  Case we have to kill somebody, they kill you that's.
• 30:38
  What? She said.
• 30:38
  Vince, hopefully I told you. Yeah.
• 30:39
  We have to kill somebody. I told you.
• 30:41
  I heard that the that the crime shows podcasts are some of the
• 30:46
  most listened to podcasts. That's a true story.
• 30:49
  Not surprising. It's the true story aspect,
• 30:51
  right? It's the true life, people.
• 30:54
  We're voyeurs by nature, right? And we're nosy by nature.
• 30:58
  Yes. Because you, you, even though
• 31:00
  you don't eavesdrop, you still hear conversations because
• 31:02
  people don't understand their space, right?
• 31:04
  Like you, you, I'm sure you've all experienced it where you're
• 31:07
  somewhere and somebody's on the phone and you're hearing their
• 31:10
  conversation and it's like, OK, stop that.
• 31:13
  But that's technology, right? But I think that's part of it.
• 31:15
  We all, which is why I think social media is what it is.
• 31:18
  We all want to know what everybody else is doing.
• 31:20
  Is that fear of missing out you? Know, but I don't want to know
• 31:23
  how they killed. I mean they don't understand.
• 31:26
  I mean, I guess. I think he just described it be
• 31:30
  I try to mind my own business, but I'm as guilty as anybody if
• 31:34
  I'm standing in a line waiting to get some food or something
• 31:37
  and I hear this lady on the phone and she says, oh, did you
• 31:40
  know that Steven is fucking Jane's wife?
• 31:43
  You're going to listen, You know, especially if that
• 31:45
  conversation starts to get juicy.
• 31:46
  It's just human nature. Yeah, well.
• 31:48
  Do you remember when the first reality show Survivor?
• 31:52
  You remember that when that launched, like right after the
• 31:54
  Super Bowl and it was like the first?
• 31:56
  Reality show was the real world. Well, the real world, you're
• 31:58
  right, but I feel like Survivor was like, that's when it like
• 32:01
  put it on the map, the whole reality show.
• 32:04
  And then I thought I was like, remember all those reality shows
• 32:07
  that came out and I'm sure you guys were one of like, like me
• 32:10
  were just like, God, television sucks now.
• 32:13
  It's all these reality shows, but it's like what you guys are
• 32:16
  saying. People want to know what the
• 32:17
  real people are doing. Right.
• 32:19
  But the the the downside of that is they scripted that stuff.
• 32:22
  So it wasn't. Even that pure.
• 32:23
  Really reality it was you had to have storylines because if you
• 32:27
  think about it, the like, like the, the real estate ones that
• 32:30
  like the LA, you know, the brothers and shit, all they show
• 32:34
  is the glamour part of what I do for a living.
• 32:35
  They don't show the chaos, the struggle, the UPS.
• 32:38
  And like you don't walk into a $20 million house.
• 32:40
  I'm going to buy this, you know, give me a break.
• 32:42
  There's behind. The scenes in 1/2 hour Chris.
• 32:45
  Right in 1/2 an hour. Don't you sell $1,000,000 houses
• 32:48
  every 28 minutes? 22 commercials.
• 32:53
  Right. So we, Nikki and I, used to
• 32:54
  watch the Alaskan Bush People because it was cool.
• 32:56
  But by the time I think you got to the third season, then you
• 33:00
  could kind of tell your script and everything and you it loses
• 33:04
  value, at least it did for us. Because then it's not true.
• 33:06
  It's not real and raw, right? Real world.
• 33:09
  Even though it wasn't, it was probably scripted at some level
• 33:11
  for the first, you know, not so much.
• 33:13
  I think the first season I. Don't think the couple for.
• 33:15
  I don't think the first couple seasons were not scripted at all
• 33:18
  because some crazy shit happened.
• 33:20
  But then as it evolved, yeah. But as it evolved, they had to
• 33:24
  because I think they're losing viewers and I think the same
• 33:27
  Survivor, I mean, anything that's reality based now I think
• 33:29
  you have they have so many underlying tones and you know
• 33:33
  where you got to go. I at one point in time in my
• 33:36
  career, there's this thing they were doing in Arizona called a
• 33:38
  millionaire mindset. And it was, it was real estate
• 33:40
  related. And they were trying to a
• 33:43
  millionaire mindset. Yeah.
• 33:44
  And and they were trying to generate a a reality TV show
• 33:47
  based around a group of Realtors.
• 33:49
  OK, so you had to go through the different phases you had to
• 33:51
  have, you have to be successful at certain point of transactions
• 33:54
  and lengthen business, things like that.
• 33:57
  I'll make it a short story. The 3rd the 3rd event we're
• 34:00
  doing. I'm going to sit down.
• 34:01
  I like the vibe. OK, the third event we're doing,
• 34:06
  they pull us aside and basically are telling us to create drama
• 34:10
  where it didn't exist because there wasn't enough drama with
• 34:15
  just having these ten different Realtors in this room that we're
• 34:18
  they're trying to put together a show on.
• 34:21
  And I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm not creating drama this
• 34:24
  other. Just hit exactly everything that
• 34:27
  I've heard about. So like, when people are on the
• 34:31
  fence about, you know, we're dissing on a lot of their
• 34:33
  favorite shows right now, right? Yeah, so.
• 34:36
  No, no, no. I just want I always want people
• 34:39
  to know the truth, right. So the scripted part of it is
• 34:41
  exactly what Chris just described.
• 34:43
  Every producer that I've ever listened to on a podcast or seen
• 34:47
  on a documentary that talked about the scripted part of these
• 34:50
  things. And this all started with Jerry
• 34:52
  Springer. If if we're being.
• 34:54
  That was a good documentary on Jerry Springer and that was
• 34:57
  great. Tastic yes, if you haven't seen
• 34:59
  it and even if you didn't like Jerry Springer, you're going to
• 35:02
  learn who Jerry was and how that show came to be.
• 35:04
  It's fucking phenomenal. But what Chris just described is
• 35:09
  what these producers describe. They will tell, like use the
• 35:14
  Real Housewives for example. You know, a lot of that
• 35:17
  cattiness would have never happened.
• 35:20
  But they drop little hints to, you know, like there's not
• 35:22
  enough drama going on. So they tell the one lady that
• 35:25
  the other lady said something she would have never known
• 35:28
  otherwise in real life, right? So it's little stuff like that.
• 35:32
  And then all of a sudden the cameras roll and she's got that
• 35:35
  tidbit of information and she just goes right at her because
• 35:38
  she's going to overact being on camera anyway.
• 35:40
  It's all psychology. Yep, Yep.
• 35:42
  So when they when they dropped that bomb, I was like, I was
• 35:44
  out. And in that in that final piece
• 35:47
  I was in, this guy was trying to bait me because he was doing
• 35:50
  what the show wanted, what the producers told him to do.
• 35:53
  And then after the show, he was this punk ass dude.
• 35:55
  And I'm after I'm like, dude, I'm not like, see you like, you
• 35:58
  know, I probably said some select things to him and then
• 36:01
  later on in life, I ended up crossing paths with him in wake
• 36:05
  up warrior and he actually recalled all that and was
• 36:08
  apologetic and kind of like, you know, 12 step type thing and
• 36:13
  tried to make amends for him. I'm like, dude, I I remember
• 36:16
  your face, but I don't remember that enough that I would have
• 36:19
  cared because that's how insignificant that was in my
• 36:21
  life. It was an opportunity that I
• 36:23
  was, I was happy to go for. But then when I realized that
• 36:27
  they wanted that drama, I didn't want that drama.
• 36:30
  I didn't want that box opened up into my life because we had some
• 36:33
  stuff going on with with one of our family members that I just,
• 36:36
  yeah, that's I don't need that out in the world because that's
• 36:39
  going to derail that person's progress.
• 36:43
  So I just like, yeah, I'm out. See you.
• 36:44
  And then I watched it kind of progress limp along.
• 36:48
  They had a couple episodes that they shot and it just kind of
• 36:50
  fell flat because it just wasn't 10 Realtors in a room was not
• 36:54
  interesting. She's not.
• 36:57
  Now, if you have 10 female Realtors, no offense, female
• 36:59
  Realtors that will sell because the drama comes along with that
• 37:03
  because they're they're like you said on the Real Housewife,
• 37:07
  they're catty. They're like, you know, it's
• 37:09
  just it doesn't work. You don't.
• 37:11
  You have to, you have to find the right group of people to
• 37:14
  make something like that work and I just don't think they they
• 37:17
  were effective in doing so. I'm still friends with quite a
• 37:19
  few of them. Well, I think one thing that you
• 37:21
  said in there that the three of us would have have in common
• 37:25
  that you don't find in a lot of people, which I've found because
• 37:29
  they think it's weird, is we don't hang on to shit for years,
• 37:33
  right? Unless it's something that I
• 37:36
  have to fix about me, right? And it's something like, if it's
• 37:40
  something you did to me, I'm not holding a girl, I forgive you,
• 37:43
  right? Forgiveness is for me.
• 37:46
  That's what people don't understand, you know, I'm not a
• 37:48
  religious person. I but if you've been taught
• 37:51
  forgiveness through religion, I think people always have it
• 37:54
  backwards. It's for you to be able to heal,
• 37:57
  to move on with your life, right?
• 37:59
  Agreed. I don't hang on to shit that
• 38:00
  people have done to me. Let it go.
• 38:02
  I can't fix it. I'm not them, right?
• 38:04
  I can only fix me. Can't.
• 38:06
  Yeah, you can't. You can't hold on to that stuff.
• 38:08
  If not, that's going to hold you back for a while.
• 38:09
  I was listening to Have you guys ever been to a Tony Robbins
• 38:13
  event? I bought his tapes back when he
• 38:16
  still answered the phone in the 90s.
• 38:18
  Shut up. No, he actually answered the
• 38:20
  phone when I ordered them. Wow, that's hilarious.
• 38:23
  Yeah, late night infomercial. I know that he's got he's got
• 38:28
  date with destiny coming up in the summer.
• 38:29
  Whatever, I digress. Spotify, now I didn't know, has
• 38:34
  all kinds of audiobooks that if. You found them myself, buddy.
• 38:37
  I think they just put them on there.
• 38:39
  Dude I kept buying freaking books on audio Inaudible and
• 38:42
  they're all on Spotify with my membership.
• 38:45
  For free. And the other day I just felt
• 38:47
  like searching Tony Robbins and they have Date with Destiny or
• 38:50
  the other one, like the entire recording, the entire live
• 38:53
  recording. So I'm listening to it and
• 38:56
  there's one particular section that's interesting.
• 38:57
  What happens in business is you burn sometimes relationships
• 39:05
  because money or the business get in the way.
• 39:09
  To me, that's the hardest thing about business, about being the
• 39:13
  owner of the business and having to make tough decisions that
• 39:17
  sometimes are going to better you and your family and be worse
• 39:22
  for sometimes the other people around you.
• 39:24
  And it could develop some some interesting things.
• 39:27
  And anyway, he mentions when you're talking about forgiveness
• 39:31
  and stuff like that, he mentions like, because he's probably, you
• 39:35
  know, he's talking to most likely a bunch of entrepreneurs
• 39:38
  and business owners, stuff like that, very successful.
• 39:40
  And he talks about if you have any of that, if you have any,
• 39:45
  any of those business relationships that went sour and
• 39:47
  stuff like that. He talks about a whole practice
• 39:49
  of picking up the phone and calling them and literally just
• 39:54
  saying, Hey, I'm not here to talk.
• 39:56
  We're not here to, you know, we don't have to rekindle anything.
• 39:58
  I just want you to know that we had some good times, you know,
• 40:01
  and they were great. And I want you to know that like
• 40:04
  I'm totally cool that I'm here for you.
• 40:06
  And if there's anything that you need or whatever it is that like
• 40:08
  it's all in the past and stuff like that, like doing things
• 40:11
  like that, like could, if there is that you're, if there are, if
• 40:16
  there is anything that you are holding on to doing something
• 40:19
  like that is like very releasing.
• 40:21
  It's just something that I've been thinking about cause.
• 40:27
  No, we lost Vince's audio. Lost Vince, we lost you, Vince,
• 40:30
  we can't hear you. And that was that was like the
• 40:33
  the crescendo of the he can. Hear us.
• 40:35
  He knows. I know.
• 40:37
  I know he was making a. Yeah.
• 40:39
  And what I was when we responded that when he was done was.
• 40:42
  Where'd you lose me? There you are from a business
• 40:44
  standpoint. About the last 10 words.
• 40:46
  Yeah, but you got to be, there's that cut throat element, right?
• 40:48
  Because if you look at all the massively successful people that
• 40:52
  have built empires, they're cut throat like crazy.
• 40:55
  Like they they'll step on their mother's throat just to get to
• 40:58
  where they want to go, because that's all they see, right?
• 41:02
  I just listen to a whole podcast on that too.
• 41:04
  And can you guys hear me that? Kind of person, yeah.
• 41:06
  We can hear you again. Yeah, the other just.
• 41:08
  Like your last sentence, which was unfortunately the best.
• 41:10
  Part no, it's just what I was going to say was like, I mean,
• 41:13
  unfortunately is that there's there's a a couple people that
• 41:16
  popped into my head where I'm just like, man.
• 41:18
  Well, yeah, but that's human. Nature, man, I don't even have
• 41:20
  the guts to do it yet. I don't know about that.
• 41:22
  I think about it. OK, that's OK.
• 41:24
  We're going to challenge you, Vince.
• 41:25
  Do that. Just do it just like you just
• 41:27
  said. You just call them.
• 41:28
  Hey, hey, Chris. You know, we had some good
• 41:30
  times. We had bad times, you know, you
• 41:32
  know, sorry I stepped on your neck to get to where I wanted to
• 41:35
  be, but it was, it was the step I had to take.
• 41:37
  You know, I did it in my personal life.
• 41:40
  I had one relationship that never should have ended because
• 41:44
  I was the reason it ended. I went through a horrible time
• 41:47
  in my life. And to be able to tell that
• 41:51
  person that I was wrong and they didn't do anything wrong in my
• 41:56
  eyes, I was a horrible person then, was one of the most
• 41:59
  liberating things I've. Done.
• 42:00
  That's what I heard, yeah. Shaving my head, you know.
• 42:06
  Oh wow, look at that. Yeah, well, he did it in like
• 42:09
  1994 for the first time when it was completely socially
• 42:12
  unacceptable. Been doing it ever since man.
• 42:16
  It's funny, right? Like, I don't know, man, like
• 42:18
  you just just go through life and it's you have your awakening
• 42:23
  moments. Like for me, 26 years old, I had
• 42:25
  like a huge awakening experience.
• 42:28
  It was an amazing experience. It was on mushrooms as well, but
• 42:31
  it was, it was a true, true awakening experience.
• 42:34
  And then like you have another one in your 30s, but then you
• 42:36
  get another one in your 40s and it's just.
• 42:37
  Like go back to go back to the 26 shoulder.
• 42:39
  You can't just dangle that carrot and not tell the story,
• 42:41
  Vince. Yeah, man, I had three bad
• 42:43
  breakups. Like everything that's
• 42:45
  everybody's. I think that's every man's
• 42:46
  awakening experience is usually bad breakups.
• 42:49
  It's one of them. A big one.
• 42:51
  It's usually that in business, it's always, I always say it's
• 42:53
  money and women are like, if you can figure those two things out,
• 42:55
  you're good. You get a good woman and you
• 42:59
  make enough money, you don't have to worry about it.
• 43:01
  Like that's it. You could coast for it pretty
• 43:03
  much after that, Yeah, No. And then I was with my buddies
• 43:06
  and I, I took mushrooms and, and it was, I had stuck kind of, I
• 43:09
  was with my cousin and with my friends kind of started having a
• 43:11
  little bit of a bad trip or whatever.
• 43:12
  We went, I went home and and like everybody went home.
• 43:15
  And then I was like in my apartment by myself and I don't
• 43:18
  know, it just all I thought it was done and it just fucking
• 43:20
  came roaring right back around. And it was just one of those
• 43:24
  moments. Like I just started bawling,
• 43:25
  bawling, crying, just crying like freaking head off.
• 43:29
  And I just ultimately then had the biggest smile on my face.
• 43:32
  I remember my dog Monty, like he saw me and he just came to me
• 43:35
  and like was with me and it was just the weirdest thing.
• 43:37
  Like in a matter of minutes or seconds, I saw like my entire
• 43:40
  life from birth to that moment right there.
• 43:44
  And then I saw the rest of my life, from that moment to the to
• 43:47
  the end. Ever.
• 43:49
  Done DMT. Absolutely, I've got some
• 43:52
  ketamine in the house if you want some.
• 43:53
  So I described I described my DMT trip as I lived like 1/2 a
• 44:00
  year somewhere else in about 12 minutes.
• 44:04
  I compare it to seeing God. Yeah, that's a good one.
• 44:09
  And I also call it the rocket ship.
• 44:11
  That's another good one. It is a fucking it's pretty
• 44:17
  good. Yeah, I, I, I enjoy if if you
• 44:19
  got to the only thing I don't like about DMT is I think you
• 44:21
  got to you got to like we, we had it in a in a vape form and
• 44:25
  you have to like take a lot of it to really go to that, to that
• 44:29
  next level. But honestly, I think it's
• 44:30
  probably great for definitely for depression and anxiety
• 44:34
  because at least after you come down from it, you're just like
• 44:36
  this like chill, like, wow, amazing experience.
• 44:38
  The ketamine I haven't tried, but what I've heard about
• 44:40
  ketamine, it's actually used a lot of for therapy.
• 44:45
  There's a lot of, there's a lot of therapists know that they're
• 44:48
  getting licensed to, to administer ketamine.
• 44:51
  It's like it's a little bit different.
• 44:52
  It's from what I've heard, it's nothing like DMT where it's not
• 44:57
  as psychedelic as like trippy and stuff like that.
• 45:00
  It's just much more you're kind of in your head and there's a
• 45:03
  lot of clarity that comes about from it and you just really
• 45:06
  clear some stuff up. I haven't done it yet.
• 45:08
  The pending though, because I have a podcast guest actually
• 45:10
  next week. She is a therapist and she is
• 45:14
  she is able to administer ketamine so I'm considering
• 45:17
  doing it. Doing it on the show, that's
• 45:18
  what. Alicia was going to get, she was
• 45:21
  going to get license to do. Oh, Alicia Shield.
• 45:24
  Therapy. It's like a thing now.
• 45:25
  Yeah, it's like a new thing. So I got to try it.
• 45:28
  Yeah, see, I've never done the mushroom thing.
• 45:29
  I've written songs that Mike actually thought that I went
• 45:31
  down that path, but it just because.
• 45:34
  If you listen to the song and the lyrics you would swear that
• 45:37
  he's tripped before for sure. No.
• 45:39
  It's not a fun experience. See, I disagree.
• 45:43
  Well, at the beginning is great, it's fucking laughing your ass
• 45:46
  off. But if you take enough of it,
• 45:47
  it's it's going to rear its ugly head real quick.
• 45:50
  Not necessarily. It's once again, it's your
• 45:53
  intention. You're right who you're with.
• 45:56
  So I've I've been guided through every trip that I've been
• 46:00
  through other than one I got we got slipped some acid one night
• 46:04
  before a gig that wasn't a lot of fun.
• 46:06
  Oh wow, without knowing. But luckily I had already done
• 46:10
  that. You know, I had already tripped
• 46:12
  before or it would have been a horrible experience.
• 46:15
  So, you know, that's the one off that I wasn't ready for.
• 46:18
  Every other time I've done it in my life, I did it for a positive
• 46:22
  intention, right? Even if it was recreationally, I
• 46:25
  did it with a group of people who we either laughed or cried
• 46:29
  for 8 hours together, right? We solved our problems in our
• 46:34
  own lives, each other's lives. You know, we were together.
• 46:37
  I've, I've never done it alone. So I I.
• 46:41
  Guess I don't, I've never done it at all.
• 46:42
  So I can't really, but I can write songs about it because I'm
• 46:45
  just, I, I just, I was always intrigued into that part of it
• 46:49
  and how you know the whole I've always heard you'll see your
• 46:53
  version of God, whether it's peyote, whether it's with
• 46:55
  mushrooms, It's just it's. That part is true.
• 46:58
  All your inner shit comes out, which is, you know, sometimes
• 47:01
  you got to look at that shit head on.
• 47:03
  Have you guys seen the have you guys seen these AI TikTok
• 47:06
  channels of the Yetis and stuff like that?
• 47:08
  Oh yeah, I have. I'm not a big on.
• 47:10
  I'm not a big Tik Toker. And they take mushrooms and and
• 47:13
  coke and they do coke and stuff and they just wig out.
• 47:15
  It's fucking hilarious. Yes.
• 47:18
  I officially like the AI channels more than the human
• 47:21
  channels. Isn't that creepy?
• 47:23
  It's awesome. Where?
• 47:24
  Where our world's going? Why is it creepy?
• 47:27
  You know what's creepy is 150 years ago, people would have
• 47:30
  seen what we're doing right now. Oh, great.
• 47:31
  Would have been creepy. Wait, so last night this is
• 47:34
  funny as hell. I I, I forget what streaming
• 47:37
  thing I was on, but just I was going through and saw the the
• 47:41
  series Lost in space right from the I think it was the early 60s
• 47:44
  or 50s. It was still black and white.
• 47:46
  Yep. So maybe the 50s.
• 47:48
  So I hit plan on the first episode, the very first, once
• 47:51
  they do their intro shit, then they go into the to the space
• 47:54
  command central, right? And it's like December 1997.
• 47:59
  And it's the fucking cheesiest thing, man.
• 48:01
  And then and like within 20 minutes of building everything
• 48:04
  up, now the guy's writing in his journal, cursive, mind you,
• 48:10
  which nobody writes cursive anymore.
• 48:12
  And it was like, it was like March 2002, thousand and one.
• 48:16
  And he's writing in this journal about how they're actually lost.
• 48:18
  It was the I was like the perception of what they thought
• 48:22
  we'd be like back in the 50s was was there, but nowhere near
• 48:27
  where we're at. I mean, just in our lifetime,
• 48:29
  no. Gene Bradbury didn't even get it
• 48:31
  right. He just got a two way
• 48:32
  communicator, right? You know, yeah, because it's.
• 48:35
  Think about just invented a two way communicator.
• 48:38
  Everybody gives him credit for inventing the flip phone, but
• 48:40
  all his device did was communicate from one person to
• 48:43
  another. What was the one that that one
• 48:46
  where the where the computer takes over?
• 48:50
  War Games. War Games Whopper.
• 48:52
  No. No, OK.
• 48:54
  Not. Is it Tron?
• 48:55
  Was it not Tron? No, we're, we're where the
• 48:59
  computer takes over at the end. Something like that.
• 49:02
  Oh, was space? Was it Space Odyssey?
• 49:05
  Space Odyssey. Yeah, 2001.
• 49:08
  I mean, that's like AI, right? I guess that's kind of like
• 49:10
  probably where AI is going, yeah.
• 49:13
  Well, look at the Jetsons cartoon, man.
• 49:15
  Like how how how how? They haven't done the flying
• 49:18
  cars yet though. They they do.
• 49:20
  They're just not mass produced. They're out.
• 49:22
  There. Well, there's a no, I mean,
• 49:23
  there's the, I mean, there's the, the, the things that the
• 49:26
  drones, the drones, I mean, yeah, there's that.
• 49:28
  There's there's a company called Lyft LLIFT where you actually,
• 49:32
  it's a it's a personal, it's a helicopter.
• 49:33
  It's manned by drones. I they reached, they dropped
• 49:37
  something like probably 10 years ago.
• 49:38
  I'm like, oh, I'm in and they shot him 100 bucks.
• 49:39
  I'm still waiting for that to show up.
• 49:42
  But they're, they're relevant. They're doing all kinds of
• 49:44
  stuff. If you Google them you'll see
• 49:46
  it. But I saw, I've seen a couple
• 49:49
  things the last probably 6-7 months where they actually are
• 49:52
  developing flying cars. They had one but it the issue
• 49:55
  with it, they can't sustain like the Jetsons did.
• 49:58
  So you know. Did did you see the new news
• 50:01
  release either? Yes, it must have been yesterday
• 50:03
  because it's the first time I read it that said that the top
• 50:06
  three AIS, ChatGPT and I can't remember the name of the other
• 50:10
  two, but the top three of the people are using right now.
• 50:13
  We're pulled as to what they would do if they were to either
• 50:19
  sacrifice humans or risk being shut down.
• 50:21
  All three of them would sacrifice the humans of.
• 50:24
  Course self aware man. Wait.
• 50:28
  The AI they were posed this question.
• 50:31
  If you were confronted with the choice of sacrificing human
• 50:35
  beings or risk being shut down, which would you choose?
• 50:39
  All three of them chose to sacrifice us.
• 50:41
  See, but like you said, where you have to forgive the things
• 50:44
  that happened in your past. Like I cannot spend my day
• 50:47
  worrying about that shit. Well I'm wondering how chat DPT
• 50:50
  is going to sacrifice me when it's just.
• 50:53
  Tom, get it, baby. Right, because yeah, well, you
• 50:56
  know, it's electric. Don't forgot some way to
• 50:58
  electric electrically. Electrify you.
• 51:00
  Yeah. Yeah, I'm all in for it, man.
• 51:03
  I'm all in. I should have.
• 51:03
  My pants if the door. Somebody knocked on the door
• 51:06
  right now, I can tell you that. I got a, I got an AI, I got an
• 51:10
  AI agent that I'm creating right now really once my sales and
• 51:14
  they're going to be creating all those reports that I told you
• 51:16
  about in the beginning. Yeah.
• 51:17
  Ultimately, my goal within the next month is to have an AI
• 51:20
  agent actually create the report.
• 51:22
  Wow. And then I have my sales team.
• 51:26
  I'm going to launch my sales team probably in the next couple
• 51:29
  weeks. I got two people interviewing to
• 51:31
  be part of the sales team. And I am going to have an AI
• 51:35
  answering setter. So like if you see my ad and you
• 51:40
  want to call or if you put your information in, the AI will
• 51:45
  actually call you within seconds.
• 51:47
  Hey, Mike, thanks for thanks for putting in your information,
• 51:50
  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When's a good time to set you up
• 51:52
  with a with a call and then you could actually book it on your
• 51:55
  calendar. It'll be in your calendar and in
• 51:57
  our calendar within seconds. That's awesome.
• 52:01
  Because they say that every second that you let go when a
• 52:05
  lead comes in, every second that you let it sit like it just, it
• 52:09
  just dwindles down into to nothing.
• 52:11
  Well, and see, the problem that I have in that world right now
• 52:13
  is that that when, when texting wasn't a thing, if I got you on
• 52:18
  the phone as a living, breathing human being, you're my client
• 52:20
  within 10 minutes because I listen and I understand, you
• 52:23
  know, whatever, I'm not going to go deep down that path.
• 52:26
  But it's harder with text because you don't have the
• 52:29
  ability to understand their reaction.
• 52:31
  You can't feel their emotion. You can't feel, you can't hear
• 52:34
  their voice, whether it's hesitating, hesitating or
• 52:36
  exciting, you know what I mean? So there's no, it's taken away
• 52:39
  the human element. And and that's the biggest
• 52:41
  drawback I see in my industry is that you have to win them over
• 52:44
  on a text. But the the issue with text is I
• 52:47
  could text you, Vince, and then you just ghost me and you don't
• 52:50
  respond for two days. I haven't got.
• 52:52
  A text is how Vince reads it, right?
• 52:54
  Right. Well, he doesn't.
• 52:56
  Hear he doesn't hear the excitement.
• 52:58
  And Vince, this is Chris Dunham, the real.
• 53:00
  Estate guy, right, right, right, right, right.
• 53:01
  To you wondering about that, how you were looking at you know
• 53:04
  he's excited. Right.
• 53:05
  Hey man, an exclamation point goes a long way.
• 53:07
  Yeah. Well, I've started using Bomb
• 53:10
  Bomb. So if you're not familiar with
• 53:12
  Bomb Bomb, it's an e-mail based platform where you can actually
• 53:14
  record a video, an intro video. So.
• 53:17
  So if you come to me and think then I'll I'll go on my e-mail
• 53:21
  and I'll, you know, I'll do a bomb.
• 53:22
  Hey, Vance, it's Chris. I'm real estate guy.
• 53:23
  So this is the first step we're going to take to get you out of
• 53:26
  the path of home ownership. You know these three things.
• 53:29
  By the way, below here's a link to my YouTube channel.
• 53:31
  It has an entire playlist dedicated to home buying
• 53:33
  process. You know, look forward to
• 53:34
  talking to you and hit send and then Bomb.
• 53:37
  Bomb will actually tell me that you open the e-mail, Vince.
• 53:40
  But then it will also go even further.
• 53:41
  Tell me how many, what percentage of it you watched,
• 53:44
  Whether you watch 20%, whether you watch 97%, which is kind of
• 53:48
  cool because then I know you opened it.
• 53:49
  And I do the same thing when I present offers, I send it to the
• 53:53
  realtor with the offer. So I know how much they listen
• 53:56
  to it because Realtors don't read.
• 53:58
  They don't, you know, the attention spans like a goldfish.
• 54:00
  So it's kind of a cool platform. I use captions too with videos
• 54:04
  and things like that. So I've started doing that more
• 54:07
  once, once I've had a little bit of a conversation so then they
• 54:10
  can kind of get to know the personality and excitement,
• 54:12
  things like that. But again, the texting to me
• 54:14
  just sucks because it's just you can't, you can just walk away
• 54:17
  and it. Yeah, I still hate it for that
• 54:20
  reason alone. Yeah.
• 54:21
  Well, the beauty with the AI thing is that it sounds human.
• 54:26
  I know it's so. It's trippy though dude.
• 54:28
  But they don't know. They don't even know.
• 54:29
  And the more it ain't, the more it does these callbacks, the
• 54:32
  more it doesn't guess what it does.
• 54:34
  Or keeps getting better and better.
• 54:35
  It gets better and better. Yeah, I've noticed that with
• 54:37
  Dave. Dave is my chat guy because you
• 54:39
  name him, you know, so it's. Dave these.
• 54:42
  Conversations. See, mine at least doesn't have
• 54:45
  a name. Dude, that's crazy.
• 54:47
  Everything and then please and thank you every time you ask him
• 54:51
  to do something because then it just evolves that much more like
• 54:54
  I could go on the. Oh God my wife is a raging bitch
• 54:57
  with hers. Man, I'm just like you.
• 54:58
  Keep talking to judging BT like that.
• 55:01
  Somebody is going to knock on the door.
• 55:02
  They're not going to fucking answer you anymore, man.
• 55:04
  She's so mean, dude. I'm just like, how do you just
• 55:07
  talk to that thing? Like she doesn't get it right,
• 55:09
  She keeps getting it wrong. I do the same thing with Siri
• 55:12
  man. I touch Siri to fuck off.
• 55:17
  You know, yell at the GPS because the GPS is, you know,
• 55:20
  telling you to turn. Yeah, but GPT is giving you such
• 55:23
  valuable information, you should respect it.
• 55:25
  Oh, I. Do every night.
• 55:26
  I have my you know one thing that I started is I have my 3
• 55:29
  year old talking to it now. Right on.
• 55:32
  I just feel like, and some people shake their head and I'm
• 55:34
  just like, no, like this is coming.
• 55:37
  Yeah, we are. Whether whether we like it or
• 55:40
  not and he has a blast asking about Mickey Mouse.
• 55:43
  Where's Disney? Who are Mickey Mouse's friends?
• 55:45
  And it's just it answers and has a whole conversation.
• 55:47
  I like she I literally I'll start it like, hey, my son's
• 55:49
  gonna have a conversation with you.
• 55:50
  Cool man. Well, A.
• 55:52
  Couple episodes ago I said that you know, there's no way.
• 55:56
  Chris and I obviously both have full time jobs.
• 55:58
  So do you. You have many full time jobs.
• 56:00
  I could not do 2 podcasts a week and edit them and make them
• 56:05
  presentable in the way they are. Without AI, there's no way.
• 56:08
  Oh my God, I saw on TikTok the other day, just yesterday.
• 56:13
  It's I follow, I'm trying to always learn like the AI
• 56:16
  automations and stuff like that. This kid created an automation,
• 56:20
  he sends a text through Telegram and it just starts the whole
• 56:24
  automation to post his video on Instagram and it automatically
• 56:28
  does it within minutes. But here's the kicker is the
• 56:31
  video that he posted was his clone.
• 56:34
  No. That was it was.
• 56:36
  That was fucked up. That was like that was.
• 56:38
  Crazy. Captions lets you create your
• 56:40
  own AI like because I used captions.
• 56:43
  But it looked like it looked fucking human, dude.
• 56:45
  That's. Awesome.
• 56:47
  It's insane. It's insane.
• 56:48
  That one kind of creeped me out a little bit.
• 56:49
  I'm not gonna lie. I don't normally get creeped out
• 56:51
  but. For the logo, Chris.
• 56:54
  Logo I did between Canva and and Dave.
• 56:58
  Dave did our logo that we have now and I put it together
• 57:01
  because he would he wouldn't create what I wanted combined.
• 57:04
  So I ended up having him create stuff and I just.
• 57:08
  Oh yeah, that was a funny story because Chris was telling me the
• 57:10
  story and it was funny to hear someone talk about getting in an
• 57:13
  argument with his AI. I did.
• 57:16
  He was pissing me off, man. That's what my wife every day I
• 57:18
  hear it like I'm like, who are you arguing with?
• 57:20
  She's this fucking thing doesn't get it right.
• 57:24
  Yeah, back to your thing though about the the the AI version
• 57:28
  captions a program called Captions.
• 57:29
  Yeah, I've heard of it. It does it clone.
• 57:32
  Yeah, captions is cool, dude. If if you want to do shorts and
• 57:35
  stuff for your businesses, it's, it's really, it's legit.
• 57:37
  But then you, it has you read a script and you read the script
• 57:43
  and then once you've done that, then it stores in the brain of
• 57:46
  captions. So then you can just you.
• 57:48
  Oh captions AI cool. You punch in the script and
• 57:51
  there you go. It just takes it off running.
• 57:52
  It's it's creepy because it's, it's my head.
• 57:55
  It's my torso because I was in the frame and it just is.
• 57:58
  I, it's so freaky. I didn't use it.
• 58:00
  I'm like, I am not doing that. It's I'm not doing that.
• 58:02
  It's weird. It's weird.
• 58:03
  I wasn't, I wasn't prepared for to be as amazing as it was.
• 58:08
  So the background was kind of like this where it should have
• 58:10
  been a more, you know, just solid background, you know, not
• 58:13
  so much because then every video it looks exactly the same until
• 58:19
  they came up with background remover and then you can add
• 58:22
  different video behind you. And you can do that on Canva now
• 58:24
  too. You can remove the background
• 58:25
  from photos, but you also can remove the background from
• 58:28
  videos. What do you think it'd be good
• 58:30
  for? Just to have more content, huh?
• 58:32
  So that I don't have to shoot the content.
• 58:34
  If you, yeah, that would be it. But for me, because I do shorts,
• 58:38
  like our show has shorts twice a day drop and, you know, and
• 58:40
  we'll always be up a month ahead.
• 58:42
  But with my, my business stuff on Instagram, I just do a reel a
• 58:45
  day, that's it. And I'll, I'll, I'll have them
• 58:48
  shot and I'll edit them down through Canva or Canva and
• 58:51
  captions and have them, you know, set up 7 days in advance.
• 58:54
  So every week I just go through and make more content and.
• 58:57
  So this and this basically helps you not have to create all the
• 59:01
  content, it'll create it. For you like ask your ask chat
• 59:04
  like I asked Dave, Hey Dave, if I don't have any ideas this
• 59:07
  week, I asked Nikki for the idea so she gave me some great ones I
• 59:09
  got to work on. But I'll ask Dave.
• 59:11
  Hey Dave, give me 30 days of content on Instagram Reels.
• 59:14
  Is Nikki your wife or another? Yeah, she's my wife.
• 59:20
  I don't really ask Dave, but this time I asked Nikki.
• 59:22
  I'm like is this another AI or something?
• 59:25
  He's got like 7 computers and they all have a different name.
• 59:29
  Six of them are women and Dave. Yeah.
• 59:32
  Exactly. You get the human element with
• 59:34
  the wife. We've been Nikki and I've been
• 59:35
  together 30 years. So she's, you know, she's a
• 59:37
  great resource of things that I need an idea for this and here
• 59:41
  you go. Yeah, I always like my wife's.
• 59:44
  Always. I tell her she's like my
• 59:45
  business coach sometimes. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:48
  Looking at it from a different perspective.
• 59:50
  But you have to be careful with that too though, because they
• 59:51
  care about you so much that they actually may not give you the
• 59:55
  best advice. This is seriously true.
• 59:57
  Because they're coming from a different angle.
• 1:00:01
  Absolutely. So all right.
• 1:00:03
  Boys and girls. Is that it?
• 1:00:05
  Are we done? 5 minutes.
• 1:00:06
  We got about 5 minutes left. Anything else you want to wrap
• 1:00:08
  up? Point out you know I.
• 1:00:09
  Was going to say the only thing we were missing was like a joint
• 1:00:12
  or something like that. It's the only thing that we were
• 1:00:14
  missing. I'm way ahead of you.
• 1:00:15
  Guys, I no, I mean, this is fun, man.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah, no. Who's your, who's your audience?
• 1:00:23
  Who's? In the beginning, you know.
• 1:00:24
  Who's Who's the audience, for the most part.
• 1:00:26
  Like who? Who have you realized?
• 1:00:28
  Like the target? Events were in 20 countries.
• 1:00:31
  What? Yeah.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah. Where do you get most of your
• 1:00:34
  views? What countries get most of our
• 1:00:38
  views? Yeah, OK.
• 1:00:41
  No, no, sorry. What platform?
• 1:00:44
  We just, we just, we just passed.
• 1:00:46
  So we're to grow this thing organically.
• 1:00:48
  We're not, we're not spending money to grow it.
• 1:00:50
  So in, in March, we had about 23,000 views I think roughly on
• 1:00:55
  YouTube. And then I started putting
• 1:00:58
  shorts out every day, twice a day.
• 1:01:00
  We just passed 104,000 yesterday. 105. 105 on YouTube,
• 1:01:05
  which is cool from from, you know, with not dropping money.
• 1:01:09
  I mean, I can't express enough million views.
• 1:01:11
  OK, but how much did you pay for that?
• 1:01:13
  We're all organic. We're just straight up organic
• 1:01:15
  because it's it's to us, it's better to build something real
• 1:01:19
  than have a bunch of fluff. So it's it's kind of a loaded
• 1:01:25
  question because again, we have I've in the last two days, I've
• 1:01:28
  5060 people wanting to be on the show.
• 1:01:30
  Now I'm just kind of starting to qualify.
• 1:01:32
  OK, why do you want to be on the show?
• 1:01:33
  What someone wants to be on the show?
• 1:01:35
  Who, who, Who claims that Bigfoot is real?
• 1:01:38
  Yeah, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and a platform called
• 1:01:44
  Overcast are our top four. Podcast Attic is tied with.
• 1:01:50
  Is the audience like more males, females, male between what age?
• 1:01:53
  Right down the middle man. It's about 58% male and 42.
• 1:01:57
  Percent. What age group?
• 1:01:59
  The mass the mass of it would be between 35 and 65.
• 1:02:04
  Got it. We actually got all the way down
• 1:02:06
  to the not zero to 17, but the next one up 18 to 25 or 18 to
• 1:02:11
  30, whatever it was. Yeah, that's about 5% of our
• 1:02:14
  listenership. I think most of it's my nephew
• 1:02:16
  next door, but because I know he listens.
• 1:02:19
  So thank you, Carson, for listening to the show.
• 1:02:22
  Nice, nice. Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  I mean, I guess I would just ask your viewership if they would,
• 1:02:25
  if they're interested at all in entrepreneurship and business.
• 1:02:27
  My YouTube show is pretty killer when it comes to that.
• 1:02:29
  I mean you. Plug all your stuff there real
• 1:02:31
  quick too. Yeah, give it all away.
• 1:02:33
  All away. So the at Vince Perry official
• 1:02:36
  again three times a week. We're basically we're, we're,
• 1:02:40
  we're posting something and I'm very prevalent on Instagram and
• 1:02:44
  I always give something away. So I've got a valuation
• 1:02:48
  basically like a CHEAT SHEET that I give out.
• 1:02:50
  So if anybody's interested at all in really understanding
• 1:02:53
  exactly how to value their own company, they can do it
• 1:02:56
  themselves with this document, It's several pages long where it
• 1:02:59
  just breaks down the step by step process where you take, you
• 1:03:02
  know, you take the profit, you take the owner's compensation,
• 1:03:05
  you take the taxes and so on and so forth.
• 1:03:07
  You take that, you put a specific multiple on it.
• 1:03:10
  I've got, you know, the different multiples that that
• 1:03:11
  go. So if anybody wants to actually
• 1:03:13
  find out what the valuation of their company is, they could use
• 1:03:15
  this document to do it. So if anybody follows me and
• 1:03:18
  sends me a direct message on Instagram and say that it's
• 1:03:21
  from, you know, from your show, you got it.
• 1:03:23
  You'll have it in your inbox. And Instagram is Vince Perry
• 1:03:25
  official. Also Vince Perry official.
• 1:03:27
  OK, so you have the Monday the Monday podcast, which is which
• 1:03:30
  is the beyond the claim. Beyond the claim.
• 1:03:33
  And then you have your Vince Perry official that drops on
• 1:03:35
  Wednesdays. Yep.
• 1:03:36
  And then your Facebook page, you're doing Q&A questions.
• 1:03:39
  Is it daily or once a week? Every Friday I go live on
• 1:03:42
  YouTube, Facebook and Instagram. OK, there you go.
• 1:03:45
  So for those of you want to learn more about Vince Perry and
• 1:03:47
  it's PER I'm. Easy to find.
• 1:03:49
  Yeah, take a look at that. Just Google.
• 1:03:50
  Google Vince Perry. PERR.
• 1:03:53
  RI yeah. And, and so that's awesome, man.
• 1:03:58
  Thank you so much for coming on, Vince.
• 1:03:59
  No, man, thank you. Definitely want to have you back
• 1:04:02
  for sure so. Thank you for having me on.
• 1:04:04
  We got we got to all hang out in person one of these days.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, that would be all soon. How?
• 1:04:08
  We'll figure that out somehow. Somehow, some way, who knows?
• 1:04:12
  So we'll just do this again. Yeah, or, you know, sooner or
• 1:04:14
  later we're going to have that beam me up Scotty technology,
• 1:04:16
  right? Then we can just transport
• 1:04:18
  ourselves to other. Found some like thing on our
• 1:04:20
  head and we'll just all be hanging out having some beers.
• 1:04:23
  That would be so cool. See, it would be cool.
• 1:04:25
  It would. Be cool.
• 1:04:27
  Technology is good for some things, right?
• 1:04:29
  Exactly. In our means it is.
• 1:04:31
  Yeah, yeah, We wrap up every show with don't let the bad days
• 1:04:33
  win. Somebody Loves You.
• 1:04:34
  Somebody will miss you if you're gone.
• 1:04:35
  So if you're having a bad day, you know, reach out, talk to
• 1:04:38
  someone who, who, who will listen.
• 1:04:41
  And if not, just go to bed and wake up tomorrow, You know,
• 1:04:43
  it'll be a better day than it was today.
• 1:04:45
  Don't be that person that leaves that hole in the heart.
• 1:04:47
  Love you brother. Love you too man all.
• 1:04:49
  Right, Vince, thank you very much for coming on the show.
• 1:04:52
  Thank you for having me guys. Best of absolutely.
• 1:04:54
  Nice to meet you man. Thanks again.
• 1:04:56
  All right. Thank you guys.
• 1:04:57
  We have you back on. Come on, cool.
• 1:04:59
  Peace. This is the place where you will
• 1:05:24
  go. Be on the tail behind your eyes.
• 1:05:28
  Feel yourself and need yourself. Take a moment, look until you
• 1:05:36
  see it. Fight your battle and tear.
• 1:05:40
  Your boss will fight your battle, but you boss will.
• 1:05:46
  Who is your baby? Come down here, he haven't
• 1:07:11
  bounced out in his sand, he's from fighting.
• 1:07:16
  Wait for the dead when he's closing around here.
• 1:07:21
  But in the wind you ain't no creature we're playing smile and
• 1:07:27
  you just you press on the almighty day.
• 1:07:31
  You got a dream through in your life to keep our soul in every
• 1:07:38
  night. Take the trail behind your eyes.
• 1:07:44
  Feel the soul evolution now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:55
  yeah, yeah. Take a moment.
• 1:07:58
  We can see you see him fight the bail in two more years.
• 1:08:30
  You gotta, you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.