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Pacers force game 7 vs Thunder, Lakers sell for $10B, Shedeur Sanders speeds | 6.20 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
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Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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Speaker 1: a hater. We got to talk about what's going on.
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Speaker 1: We should do a Sanders a little bit later. Also,
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Speaker 1: the Lakers being sold for a hundred bazillion dollars. But, uh,
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Speaker 1: I would like to take this moment to send a
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Speaker 1: brief shout out, a thank you of sorts, to the
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Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. And I like basketball, so I enjoy the
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Speaker 1: idea that there's going to be a Game 7. I
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Speaker 1: have found this to be a good series. I would
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Speaker 1: like to see another game of this series. I love
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Speaker 1: everything that goes into the idea and notion of a
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Speaker 1: Game 7. Totally here for it, right? Shout out to
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Speaker 1: my homie Vinny and the rest of the people that
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Speaker 1: are covering this series who have another round of connecting flights.
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Speaker 1: You know, know there's got to be a little bit
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Speaker 1: of time. But anyway. I want to thank the Pacers
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Speaker 1: because I get one more show worth of content out
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Speaker 1: of this. That's what I'm talking about. Teamwork made the
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Speaker 1: dream work, baby. You have to understand. None of us
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Speaker 1: win when the basketball season ends like that. Basketball season
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Speaker 1: just ends and then we out here scraping the bowl
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Speaker 1: on what to try to figure out what to talk about. Hell, today,
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Speaker 1: if that boy hadn't been driving his car so goddamn fast,
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Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure what we would do with this
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Speaker 1: year's show. You know what I mean? That's what we
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Speaker 1: down to. That's what it comes to. Hey, anybody get arrested?
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Speaker 1: Like back when I used to do daily radio, especially
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Speaker 1: when I did it in North Carolina, where you don't
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Speaker 1: really have proteins to talk about. All you got is college.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't at that point where you could get
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Speaker 1: away with talking about a college baseball on the radio, baby.
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Speaker 1: I'd be waiting every day, hoping somebody would get their
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Speaker 1: ass locked up. It would be fantastic. I ain't want
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Speaker 1: them to be out here like committing real deal felonies.
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Speaker 1: That wouldn't be cool. But a really foolish, humorous misdemeanor. Clutch.
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Speaker 1: That's what we get reduced to. And there ain't no
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Speaker 1: more basketball. But we get one more game here. Now,
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Speaker 1: game six. I'm really not sure what there is to
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Speaker 1: talk about from game six because it was such a blowout.
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Speaker 1: I think the one thing that becomes clear about that
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Speaker 1: game to me is something that we talked about going
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Speaker 1: into this. And it was a big part of the
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Speaker 1: reason that people had apprehension about Oklahoma City, despite their
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Speaker 1: regular season record the last two years, is they're still
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Speaker 1: crazy young. Like, I don't think I realize the statistic
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Speaker 1: that this is the second youngest team ever in the
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Speaker 1: NBA finals.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: So no matter how good they are, no matter how
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Speaker 1: much better they could be on the other side. Young
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Speaker 1: people still do silly, ridiculous things. Young people still struggle
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Speaker 1: with concentration and for recognizing the true magnitude of the
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Speaker 1: stakes before you. On one hand, people can make the
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Speaker 1: argument that the beauty of being young is, oh, man,
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Speaker 1: they don't even realize what a big deal this is.
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Speaker 1: I struggle to buy that argument, but I understand where
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Speaker 1: people are coming from, right? But if you do buy that, hey,
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Speaker 1: the young people just so and so young, it's carefree. Now,
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Speaker 1: sometimes you do need to know what the stakes are.
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Speaker 1: It's not a matter in this game or whatever you're
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Speaker 1: talking about life, wherever you go. There is no real
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Speaker 1: benefit for not knowing what the stakes are. The only
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Speaker 1: benefit for not knowing what the stakes are is extrinsic,
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Speaker 1: not intrinsic. What is extrinsically good about not knowing what
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Speaker 1: the stakes are is if the idea of the stakes
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Speaker 1: puts too much weight on your shoulders. being aware of
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Speaker 1: what it is makes you nervous, then yeah, it's probably
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Speaker 1: better that you don't realize how big a deal it is.
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Speaker 1: The true test of this is to be in a
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Speaker 1: position where you do recognize what the stakes are, but
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Speaker 1: you've got the shoulders to carry. That is the place
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Speaker 1: in your life that you hope to grow to, right?
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Speaker 1: Like that is where you want your team to mature to.
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Speaker 1: It's that place where you recognize, hey, fellas, this is
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Speaker 1: what it is. And now we're going to go out
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Speaker 1: here and we're going to get this done. The Thunder
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Speaker 1: looked like a team to me that was aware of
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Speaker 1: what the stakes are, aware of what was in front
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Speaker 1: of them, and it was just a little bit too much.
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Speaker 1: They started off hot. You know what I mean? They
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Speaker 1: started off early, like very, very early at least. They
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Speaker 1: started off getting it done, and then they just got
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Speaker 1: their doors blown off in the second quarter, right? Wasn't
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Speaker 1: really much to talk about after that. And so now
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Speaker 1: what you hope for, if you root for the Thunder,
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Speaker 1: is that there's going to be weight and there's going
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Speaker 1: to be pressure when they take it back home. But
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Speaker 1: those people that are screaming are going to be on
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Speaker 1: their side. They're going to get to sleep in their bed.
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Speaker 1: It's now going to be the dudes on the other
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Speaker 1: side that know the weight, know the expectation, but ain't
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Speaker 1: got no friends in the building. That's what you're hoping for.
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Speaker 1: The other thing that you're hoping for is that whatever
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Speaker 1: minutes Tyrese Halliburton played, will be a detriment to him
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Speaker 1: going into the next game. The big winners of the
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Speaker 1: scheduling right now, I think, have to be the Pacers.
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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of us, and understandably, have
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Speaker 1: not enjoyed having these two days off between games and
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Speaker 1: the feeling that it kind of slows the momentum. But
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Speaker 1: I also think that we win in a way in
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Speaker 1: that the players are one day healthier going into the games.
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Speaker 1: And at this point, those margins do, in fact, matter.
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Speaker 1: And this is a Huge win for the Pacers who
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Speaker 1: get to give Halliburton another day of whatever magic they doing. Like,
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you, he in there getting rubbed on and
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Speaker 1: they putting electricity in his shit and everything else. Like,
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Speaker 1: you know, like a job job. He in there nine
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Speaker 1: to five.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what sort of vitamin T they
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Speaker 2: give NBA players, but whatever they gave his calf, it worked.
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Speaker 1: I guess we also don't fully understand the magnitude of
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Speaker 1: the injury because, look, I think many of us are
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Speaker 1: in the same position, and maybe we're overly concerned, and
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Speaker 1: I recognize I'm not a doctor, and I don't fully
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Speaker 1: understand how all of these things work. But when I
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Speaker 1: hear he's going to play through a strained calf, I
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Speaker 1: think Kevin Durant tearing his Achilles in 2019. Right. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if every strain calf is a heartbeat away
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Speaker 1: from a torn Achilles. I don't. I am inclined to believe, though,
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Speaker 1: under these circumstances, that if the Pacers really thought that
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Speaker 1: there was a torn Achilles situation, that they would not
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Speaker 1: play him. This is not like Kevin Durant, where the
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Speaker 1: last game that Kevin Durant played in the 2019 season
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Speaker 1: was absolutely going to be the last game that he
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Speaker 1: played for the Golden State Warriors. I don't think that
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Speaker 1: if Kevin Durant said, I can't play, the Warriors would
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Speaker 1: have tried to force him. But I do think that
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Speaker 1: the stakes and how you make the decision are just
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Speaker 1: a little bit different when your time horizon is so
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Speaker 1: readily apparently different, right? Like the Warriors only incentive under
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Speaker 1: those circumstances to say, nah, bro, you're not going to
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Speaker 1: play would be purely out of the goodness of their
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Speaker 1: own hearts. If they thought that Durant could contribute. And
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Speaker 1: by the way, he was killing it before he got
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Speaker 1: hurt in that game and before he got hurt generally.
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Speaker 1: But in that game, he was killing it before he
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Speaker 1: got hurt. Right. The Pacers got a much wider time
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Speaker 1: horizon to think of with Halliburton. I feel like in
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Speaker 1: their eyes, they would like that to be a guy
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Speaker 1: that plays with them for another 10 years. They're not
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Speaker 1: going to– I don't think they're going to tank out
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Speaker 1: his Achilles even to win under these circumstances because he's
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Speaker 1: only but so good. Ryan, that being said, they were
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Speaker 1: up plus 25 in his minutes, and he scored 14
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Speaker 1: in 23 minutes on 5 for 12 shooting. He wasn't great.
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Speaker 1: He has no lift. Yeah, he has no lift, but
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Speaker 1: he can still do things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he can still run their offense, and he's still
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Speaker 2: part of their relentless brand of basketball, right? They're still
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Speaker 2: pushing the pace. They're still– doing everything they need to
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Speaker 2: do and but i mean also his injury allows for
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Speaker 2: the uh the fan favorite oh.
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Speaker 1: Man mcconnell really shined man mcconnell adobe be out there
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Speaker 1: boy and i forget who made the point where i've
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Speaker 1: seen people make the argument about like what would happen
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Speaker 1: if t.j mcconnell played 38 minutes and it would be
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Speaker 1: nothing like that this tasmanian devil shit that he does
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Speaker 1: only works because you know he ain't gonna be out
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Speaker 1: there for very long you know what i mean like
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Speaker 1: like These other cats are running like the 800, the 1500,
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Speaker 1: the 300 steeplechase. It's a 60 meter dash every time
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Speaker 1: a kind of Ladova, AKA Nelly, be out here on
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Speaker 1: the floor. That's what it is. And look, he's getting
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Speaker 1: the job done and he is one game away from immortality.
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Speaker 1: That's right. He is one game away for them retiring
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Speaker 1: his jerseys. for the Indiana Pacers. Pascal Siakam, not for you, buddy.
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Speaker 1: That ain't going to happen. I don't care how good
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Speaker 1: you play. The Indiana Pacers, again, who have only retired
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Speaker 1: four players' jerseys. Reggie Miller, Mel Daniels, George McInnes, and
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Speaker 1: Roger Brown, which is to say they have not retired
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Speaker 1: anybody's jersey who was drafted in the last 40 years
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Speaker 1: except Reggie Miller, and that was 38 years ago. McConnell Ladova,
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Speaker 1: It can be you. Tyrese Halliburton, it might be you.
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Speaker 1: McConnell Adova, it's your time, big boy. It is your time. Now,
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Speaker 1: going back over there to the Thunder, Brian, and I'm
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Speaker 1: curious if you feel this way also. Like Jalen Williams
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Speaker 1: didn't play a great game there, but I really do
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Speaker 1: think for them, it just really comes down to what
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Speaker 1: version of Chet shows up. If Chet shows up making
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Speaker 1: shots and being aggressive, then Oklahoma City is probably going
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Speaker 1: to win.
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Speaker 2: Right, and I think Chet is currently the biggest variable
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Speaker 2: into their short-term and long-term success. If he is also
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Speaker 2: a top 25 player in the NBA, they're not only
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Speaker 2: going to win this title, they're going to win two
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Speaker 2: of the next three titles, right?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: So it's going to be interesting to see when you
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Speaker 2: see him out on the perimeter playing doing things out there.
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Speaker 2: If he's having an impactful game offensively and defensively, they
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Speaker 2: seem impossible to beat.
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Speaker 1: I am a big Chet guy, right? I think people
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Speaker 1: who listen to this show for a while understand this.
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Speaker 1: That's where I ride with it. At the same time,
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Speaker 1: Miles Turner has been cheats this series in a way
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Speaker 1: that I didn't think it was possible that Indiana could
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Speaker 1: be at 3-3 in this series.
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Speaker 2: With him being this bad.
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Speaker 1: With him being this bad. And even in the game
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Speaker 1: last night, it was one for nine. Like, I did
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Speaker 1: not think that that could happen. But I, all of
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Speaker 1: us who are in this business, we have a chance
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Speaker 1: to pour ourselves into this, man. Like, this is a
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Speaker 1: game seven with players who are slash can be the
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Speaker 1: future of this league. Regardless of what you said about, oh,
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Speaker 1: market size or anybody else that was caught up in
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Speaker 1: that nonsense, like they're a shareholder or anything else. This
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Speaker 1: is what you want. This is a game seven to
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Speaker 1: close out the NBA finals. Ryan, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 1: We have not had this since 2016, which to me
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Speaker 1: is one of the best, most memorable basketball games that
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Speaker 1: I can remember. Golden State Cleveland to close that out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably one of the probably one of the
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Speaker 2: four most impactful basketball games of my life. And one
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Speaker 2: stat I found interesting is the last in the last
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Speaker 2: 20 years, you know, teams that win game six down
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Speaker 2: three to have won. That game seven, you obviously talk
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Speaker 2: about Cleveland. You talk about LeBron's heat in 2013. And
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Speaker 2: also going back to 2010, the Lakers won that game
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Speaker 2: seven after being three down. Three down, three to Boston.
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Speaker 1: Now, the interesting quirk on this, though, because this also
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Speaker 1: applies to 1988 with the Lakers and the Pistons. It
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Speaker 1: also applies to 1994 with the Rockets and the Knicks.
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Speaker 1: What is different here than those series, it does apply
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Speaker 1: to 2016 though, is we're in a 2-2-1-1-1 format where
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Speaker 1: it was a 2-3-2 in the others. So in the others,
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Speaker 1: game six and seven were being won by the home
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Speaker 1: team in both cases. By the way, I'm a big
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Speaker 1: go back to 2-3-2 guy. Like this decision to go
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Speaker 1: to 2-2-1-1-1 is silly. If you went into 2-3-2, we
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Speaker 1: might not have to have these two nights in between games.
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Speaker 2: And then, you know, Hoover's really rooting for– 2-2-1-1-1 to
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Speaker 2: go away is the people on connecting flights.
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Speaker 1: Well, the whole explanation for why they went to 2-3-2,
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Speaker 1: and it made perfect sense, was they were going from
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Speaker 1: Boston to L.A. all the time. They were going from L.A.
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Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, and it just didn't make any sense to
12:55
Speaker 1: keep doing these transcontinental flights in that way. And they
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Speaker 1: held it all the way through 2013. 2014, the Spurs
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Speaker 1: won that series in five, and they won it back
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Speaker 1: at home because they brought the game five back over there. No,
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Speaker 1: it is. And I know the arguments that people make
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Speaker 1: behind why if you have home court advantage and then
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Speaker 1: you lose a game at home and then you can
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Speaker 1: maybe not get a chance to bring it back the
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Speaker 1: other way. Well, maybe you shouldn't have lost that game
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Speaker 1: at home, big boy. You know, maybe that's what it
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Speaker 1: comes down to. But anyway, Oklahoma City gets this in
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Speaker 1: that loud ass building. They get it there. They have
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Speaker 1: There's nothing and no reason why they should not be
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Speaker 1: able to close this out. The other team's best player
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Speaker 1: is very obviously injured. They cobble it together with those
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Speaker 1: other dudes, right? I have believed that we've gone overboard
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Speaker 1: with the Rick Carlisle love in this series. However, I
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Speaker 1: do think that he has done a better coaching job
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Speaker 1: than Dagono. This is going to come down to him,
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Speaker 1: I think, in large measure. What do you have to
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Speaker 1: take on your guy, right? This is about you. What
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Speaker 1: do you have? Because you got to be the one.
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Speaker 1: If you and that squad that you have with those
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Speaker 1: guys cannot beat Indiana with Tyrese Halliburton on one leg,
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Speaker 1: it all comes back to you. You and the MVP
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Speaker 1: did not have it with an opportunity to close this out.
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Speaker 1: The MVP did not show up like they needed him
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Speaker 1: to show up. Like that was a game where the
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Speaker 1: way he played for those five minutes, he needed to
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Speaker 1: play like that for a game. Basically, those five minutes
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Speaker 1: in game four, they needed a game like that from him.
14:47
Speaker 1: Like when we start talking about guys being on the
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Speaker 1: superstar tier, what you talk about is a game like
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Speaker 1: that in the OK, I guess I got to go
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Speaker 1: get this done now. He did not do that there.
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Speaker 1: He did not. You might want to give it a
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Speaker 1: try at the crib. Otherwise, y'all going to be sad.
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Speaker 1: All right. So the Lakers got sold at a valuation
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Speaker 1: of $ 10 billion. Yeah. So a guy named Mark Walter,
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Speaker 1: Mark Walter already owns a pretty big chunk of the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1: Now he owns the Lakers. Um, How much this matters,
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Speaker 1: I think, is a fair question for people to ask
15:31
Speaker 1: because who owns a team? Generally speaking, if it's not
15:35
Speaker 1: your team, it's not that big of a deal, right?
15:38
Speaker 1: What most people do not realize about the Lakers is
15:43
Speaker 1: that the success that the Lakers have had by and
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Speaker 1: large through the era of the Buss family has been
15:50
Speaker 1: they're kind of riding on natural talent. And the natural
15:55
Speaker 1: talent for the Lakers is we are the Lakers and
15:58
Speaker 1: we are in Los Angeles. So when I say that,
16:02
Speaker 1: this is what I mean. Jerry Buss' real advantage as
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Speaker 1: the owner of the Lakers, number one, was building it
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Speaker 1: into a truly glamorous franchise. If you have read Jeff
16:14
Speaker 1: Pearlman's Showtime or watched any of Winning Time that was
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Speaker 1: on HBO, you understand what I'm saying. Like the glitz
16:19
Speaker 1: and glamour and everything around L.A. that really kind of
16:21
Speaker 1: permeates from the 1980s. That gives you the brand that
16:25
Speaker 1: you have right now. That is a Jerry Buss vision. Right.
16:28
Speaker 1: Forum Club and the Laker girls and everything else. Right.
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Speaker 1: Making this a Hollywood entity. That was his thing. His
16:35
Speaker 1: other thing was his willingness to spend money on players
16:39
Speaker 1: in order to keep the team good. The issue was
16:43
Speaker 1: the game changed on what it meant to be an
16:46
Speaker 1: owner throughout his tenure and continued to change as the
16:51
Speaker 1: bus children, who are not children, they're clearly adults, but
16:54
Speaker 1: as the second generation old buses took over the team.
16:59
Speaker 1: And what changed is the rest of the owners got
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Speaker 1: a lot richer. The buses, on the other hand, Basically,
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Speaker 1: all their money is from the team. This is a
17:16
Speaker 1: very similar situation to the Steinbrenners post-George with the Yankees.
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Speaker 1: But all their money is money from the team. What
17:25
Speaker 1: they have is money that was in the valuation of
17:29
Speaker 1: the franchise. And so what you would hear when people
17:33
Speaker 1: would want to talk about the Lakers in charming terms is,
17:38
Speaker 1: is that they were a mom and pop operation. They
17:41
Speaker 1: were a family business. That's the way you would put it.
17:44
Speaker 1: They were a family business. They were a family business
17:48
Speaker 1: and Jerry Buss used to fly Southwest. And I'm not
17:52
Speaker 1: saying there's anything wrong with him flying Southwest. I'm just
17:56
Speaker 1: saying if he himself was flying Southwest, how much money
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Speaker 1: do you think they were spending on other stuff? Right.
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Speaker 1: There are plenty of stories about the shallow pockets of
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Speaker 1: the Lakers and the money that they have not spent
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Speaker 1: over the years. They have done all of this while
18:19
Speaker 1: being a touch cheap and relatively speaking, a little bit broke.
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Speaker 1: That's what they've done, and they pulled all of this off.
18:29
Speaker 1: Now they're bringing in a man who got enough paper
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Speaker 1: behind him that he could buy the majority share of
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Speaker 1: the Lakers at a $ 10 billion valuation. My question is this.
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Speaker 1: You don't pay $ 10 billion for a team like that
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Speaker 1: because you don't want to make money. That's number one.
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Speaker 1: And number two, the collective bargaining agreement is in place
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Speaker 1: to make it difficult even if you want to spend
19:01
Speaker 1: way more money than everybody else, they then ultimately hamstring
19:06
Speaker 1: you in other ways and prevent you from doing other
19:09
Speaker 1: things that nullify the impact that you have of being
19:14
Speaker 1: able to spend all that money. Now, what Mark Walter
19:18
Speaker 1: in this new operation can do is trick the place
19:21
Speaker 1: out a little bit, right? They can make it a
19:23
Speaker 1: little cushier, make it a little cozier, make it a
19:26
Speaker 1: place that players want to play. My only thing is,
19:29
Speaker 1: They already want to do that. Now, what they can
19:34
Speaker 1: do is, for example, beef up like the analytics staff,
19:37
Speaker 1: which I'm not mistaken is something that when J.J. Reddy
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Speaker 1: got there, he asked them to do what they did. Right.
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Speaker 1: Like they can beef up things at those margins. But
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Speaker 1: I am still largely a believer that this is about players.
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Speaker 1: and i'm not exactly sure how all of this money
19:54
Speaker 1: is going to make them better at filling out the
19:56
Speaker 1: roster perhaps it'll make them better at acquiring data points
20:00
Speaker 1: that can be then synthesized into the core of your
20:03
Speaker 1: decisions but i'm not i'm not sure I'm not positive
20:10
Speaker 1: it makes that much of a difference.
20:12
Speaker 2: You can't do what the Dodgers are doing with Shohei Ohtani,
20:15
Speaker 2: for example. You can't just defer all this money, spend
20:19
Speaker 2: all the money you want, and just outspend the rest
20:22
Speaker 2: of the roster. That era of the NBA is gone.
20:25
Speaker 1: You can't just simply say, fine, then I'll pay the tax. Correct.
20:29
Speaker 1: Even if you are willing to just say, find in
20:32
Speaker 1: and pay the tax, there's going to be stuff on
20:34
Speaker 1: the other, like what, what the April stuff, like what
20:36
Speaker 1: trades you can make, how you can match up salaries,
20:38
Speaker 1: so forth and so on. All of those things, none
20:40
Speaker 1: of those things change.
20:41
Speaker 2: It's essentially, it's essentially a hard cap now.
20:43
Speaker 1: Yes. And so now what we have is, I think
20:45
Speaker 1: the idea is all that money will allow him, allow
20:48
Speaker 1: them to do all of the little things. And maybe
20:52
Speaker 1: the little things will be what pushes them over the top.
20:55
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I am pretty sure that all
20:58
Speaker 1: the other owners have known at some point a day
21:02
Speaker 1: like this could come for the Lakers because it is
21:03
Speaker 1: the Lakers that terrifies everybody. It was the Chris Paul
21:06
Speaker 1: trade to the Lakers that made Dan Gilbert write that
21:08
Speaker 1: letter to David Stern to be like, bro, I thought
21:10
Speaker 1: we talked about this. Right? Like the Lakers are different.
21:13
Speaker 1: The Lakers are the special franchise. The Lakers are the
21:16
Speaker 1: one that every other team's fans got a tendency to
21:18
Speaker 1: hate on and especially their owners. They are those ones.
21:23
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how the things change.
21:27
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's seismic in that regard. But
21:31
Speaker 1: what I do think it is, though, is a sign
21:33
Speaker 1: for you to understand even bigger money is coming into
21:39
Speaker 1: these games. And it ain't the so many people who's
21:43
Speaker 1: got that much money. okay? It's not that many. The
21:50
Speaker 1: NBA made it such very recently that you can start
21:53
Speaker 1: taking money from private equity in order to build out
21:58
Speaker 1: your team, that they can take minority ownership. That, to me,
22:02
Speaker 1: is simply the beginning step, right? I thought with the
22:09
Speaker 1: Lakers that If there is something to think about, it
22:15
Speaker 1: is at least it wasn't the Saudis. Like I told people,
22:19
Speaker 1: I talked about this around LibGolf and everything else. But
22:23
Speaker 1: once they started letting private equity in that, I thought
22:26
Speaker 1: it was a matter of time before the Saudis or
22:28
Speaker 1: somebody over there made a real big play at either
22:32
Speaker 1: the Lakers or the Yankees. And the big reason is,
22:35
Speaker 1: I thought this is once you got a team that's
22:38
Speaker 1: owned by a bunch of siblings or some number of siblings,
22:41
Speaker 1: not all of them are going to care about the team,
22:44
Speaker 1: but they all don't care about the money. And so
22:46
Speaker 1: if somebody pulls up and says, we got X billion dollars,
22:49
Speaker 1: and like with the buzzers, it's six of them, three
22:51
Speaker 1: or four want to get the money, you're going to
22:53
Speaker 1: wind up going to the money, right? And so you basically,
22:56
Speaker 1: if an entity like that money whips them, then you're
22:59
Speaker 1: going to have those people perhaps in charge of a
23:01
Speaker 1: glamour franchise. Everybody kind of knows Hal Steinbrenner with the Yankees.
23:05
Speaker 1: They don't really care about baseball like that. It's not
23:07
Speaker 1: that big a deal. If those folks pull up and,
23:11
Speaker 1: you know, money whip them, is MLB going to say
23:15
Speaker 1: no given that the valuation of everybody else's franchise is
23:19
Speaker 1: going to go up based upon what's happened with the Lakers. Now,
23:23
Speaker 1: with Mark Walter, it's not the same thing, right? However,
23:28
Speaker 1: you can Google them up and go look at who
23:30
Speaker 1: some of the people are that that TWG group does
23:33
Speaker 1: some money with. That's some of their money. Being involved
23:37
Speaker 1: in this. That is some of that money over there
23:39
Speaker 1: from the Middle East. Being involved in this. That, I
23:43
Speaker 1: do think, is the beginning of where these gains are
23:47
Speaker 1: going to go and where the money is going to
23:50
Speaker 1: come from. Right? Right? Like I'm looking at this, Ryan.
23:54
Speaker 1: This is from April of 2025. It is a press
23:57
Speaker 1: release and it's TWG Global. That's their company, the Mark
24:01
Speaker 1: Walter company, TWG Global and Mubadala Capital enter multi-billion dollar
24:08
Speaker 1: investment alliance. And the Mubadala Capital, the company is based
24:13
Speaker 1: in Abu Dhabi. That is where they are. TWG had
24:17
Speaker 1: a $ 15 billion equity raise from $ 15 billion equity raise, Ryan. Billion. Billion. Okay?
24:30
Speaker 1: That's the kind of business we're talking about here. That's
24:32
Speaker 1: the level of money that's coming into this now. This
24:35
Speaker 1: is the beginning.
24:36
Speaker 2: I mean, I think an interesting point you make with
24:38
Speaker 2: the Saudis and just the sell and the amount of
24:40
Speaker 2: money involved is at some point, these prices are going
24:44
Speaker 2: to go so high, there's only so many potential buyers.
24:47
Speaker 1: Right.
24:48
Speaker 2: And who will always be sitting there with.
24:54
Speaker 2: Stacks and stacks of seemingly limitless disposable income in cash
25:00
Speaker 2: is these oil magnets.
25:02
Speaker 1: They have so much money. It is impossible to explain.
25:07
Speaker 1: They have so much money to the point where they
25:10
Speaker 1: just got to do something with this money. Like, you
25:13
Speaker 1: have to explain to people what you're doing with all
25:15
Speaker 1: this money. Oh, well, we're buying a sports team. Yeah.
25:19
Speaker 1: Because they just got so much money. So that's what
25:24
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25:26
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25:27
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25:29
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25:31
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25:33
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Speaker 1: that Shadua Sanders done got caught speeding. A couple of times,
30:01
Speaker 1: I believe, since he has gotten to the Browns. One
30:04
Speaker 1: of them, he was driving in the 90s. Another one,
30:08
Speaker 1: he was driving 101 miles an hour. And I believe, Ryan,
30:12
Speaker 1: that there was a missed court date.
30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe the timeline is going 90, missed the
30:17
Speaker 2: court date, went 100.
30:22
Speaker 1: Come on, man. So there's two levels of this for me, right?
30:25
Speaker 1: The missed the court date is the... Come on, man. Right.
30:29
Speaker 1: And that is honestly the part to me that if
30:32
Speaker 1: I am the Browns, that's the one where I'm really, really,
30:35
Speaker 1: really like you have the right to wag your finger
30:39
Speaker 1: at him. If you're the Browns about missing the court
30:41
Speaker 1: date like that is just that is. That is irresponsible
30:47
Speaker 1: in a way that you cannot simply write off to
30:50
Speaker 1: you or immaturity. Right. You are a quarterback in the NFL.
30:55
Speaker 1: You got to go to court. You can't forget this.
30:58
Speaker 1: I don't care how old you are. You are in
31:00
Speaker 1: a grown man's game, a grown man's world, a grown
31:03
Speaker 1: man's life. OK. You can't miss the court date. OK.
31:10
Speaker 1: Even if you want to simply make the argument that
31:12
Speaker 1: he got caught slipping for driving as fast as he did.
31:17
Speaker 1: You can't miss the court date. That's it, okay? And
31:24
Speaker 1: I don't think there's much more that somebody like me
31:27
Speaker 1: can say about that. Everything there is self-evident. It does
31:31
Speaker 1: not make him a bad person, but that was just
31:34
Speaker 1: like a real, that was a silly, childish move for
31:39
Speaker 1: you to make at a point in your life where
31:41
Speaker 1: you cannot do silly, childish things. You just can't, right?
31:47
Speaker 1: But the other part I want to talk about is
31:50
Speaker 1: the speeding itself, because I've seen, I have overwhelmingly in
31:56
Speaker 1: the response to this, seen people who have I feel
32:02
Speaker 1: like preemptively responded to a backlash that hasn't truly come.
32:09
Speaker 1: I could be missing it. And if I am, that's fine.
32:12
Speaker 1: Please feel free to correct me. But I haven't seen
32:15
Speaker 1: that many people truly hammering Shador for the speeding itself.
32:22
Speaker 1: I have not seen that. But I've seen people, I
32:24
Speaker 1: saw Stephen A. Smith and a couple other people on
32:26
Speaker 1: the You act like you ain't never speeded before? You
32:30
Speaker 1: act like you ain't never driven too fast? Da-da-da? You know,
32:33
Speaker 1: like I saw Stephen A on TV and he was
32:34
Speaker 1: talking about him speeding and going to work and something
32:37
Speaker 1: like how glad he is that the cops haven't been
32:42
Speaker 1: around him when he's been speeding or a time that
32:44
Speaker 1: he was speeding just because he had to go to
32:46
Speaker 1: the bathroom and he was glad the cops didn't stop
32:48
Speaker 1: him because he wasn't going to make it and da-da-da
32:50
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff. And hey, you get caught going...
32:57
Speaker 1: 70 and a 55. You're right. You know, that can
33:04
Speaker 1: happen to the best of us. Players fuck up too.
33:08
Speaker 1: You go a 101 and a 65. We're talking about
33:13
Speaker 1: something entirely different. And look, I understand, man. He driving
33:16
Speaker 1: a fancy car. That book 01 probably don't even feel
33:18
Speaker 1: like no 101. I get that. I do. I, however,
33:24
Speaker 1: view this through... a much different lens than I think
33:29
Speaker 1: I have seen people talk about this. And to me,
33:31
Speaker 1: the discussion to have with Shador Sanders about speeding is
33:38
Speaker 1: this one. Like, this is what I would say if
33:40
Speaker 1: I knew him, okay? And if we had some sort
33:43
Speaker 1: of relationship or whatever it is, or we came to
33:45
Speaker 1: a place where I had to talk to him, I
33:47
Speaker 1: would say this to him. I don't have that many
33:51
Speaker 1: things that I look back on from when I was younger.
33:55
Speaker 1: And just be like, man, you was tripping. I don't
33:57
Speaker 1: have that many of them. But I used to drive
34:01
Speaker 1: really fast in different places. Got my tickets, all of
34:05
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I used to drive really, really fast.
34:11
Speaker 1: And really fast in places where it probably didn't make
34:13
Speaker 1: sense to drive really fast. And I look back on
34:20
Speaker 1: it and like i can think about some of those
34:25
Speaker 1: times and i can actually get a little bit emotional
34:28
Speaker 1: because it was so stupid like i had no appreciation
34:34
Speaker 1: at the time for like how much i was putting
34:40
Speaker 1: my actual life in danger you know what i mean
34:44
Speaker 1: like How many things could have possibly happened or gone
34:49
Speaker 1: wrong or somebody pull up short or somebody come over
34:51
Speaker 1: here or it's a traffic jam up there and I
34:54
Speaker 1: don't know it or whatever it is and I hit
34:56
Speaker 1: these brakes late or all of this is. I did not,
35:01
Speaker 1: in spite of all these people dying in car accidents
35:03
Speaker 1: and maybe it's about the idea of the invincibility that
35:07
Speaker 1: you feel being a young person, so forth and so on,
35:10
Speaker 1: I don't know. But I can just look and see
35:14
Speaker 1: so many times where I'm like, That could have been
35:17
Speaker 1: your day. Like driving on the freeway and catching a
35:21
Speaker 1: blowout and stuff like that. Hey, man, that could have
35:25
Speaker 1: been your day. For what? Because you're late. You see
35:33
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? And in these cases, I don't even
35:36
Speaker 1: think he was late to anything. He was just driving fast. Right.
35:40
Speaker 1: But think about how often we are willing to die.
35:46
Speaker 1: Behind running late. I mean, it really is that simple.
35:50
Speaker 1: It really and truly is that basic. You running late.
35:57
Speaker 1: You go and you do all of this and it
35:58
Speaker 1: feels good to drive fast or whatever and everything else.
36:02
Speaker 1: But it is just not work. It isn't. Now, Shador,
36:09
Speaker 1: it seems like is a clean living young man. So
36:12
Speaker 1: the other lecture that I would give him doesn't work.
36:15
Speaker 1: which is, hey, man, they always trying to get in
36:18
Speaker 1: your car and look around. Don't give them no reason.
36:22
Speaker 1: They might find something. You know, but take care of yourself.
36:30
Speaker 1: You know, like if I were Dion or anybody else
36:32
Speaker 1: that's around him, my thing wouldn't have been, hey, man,
36:37
Speaker 1: everybody speeds every now and then. It ain't that big
36:39
Speaker 1: a deal. No, brother, it's a big deal. It's not
36:42
Speaker 1: a big deal that requires me to moralize or to
36:45
Speaker 1: wag my finger at you. It's to let you know
36:49
Speaker 1: that Henry Ruggs thing, that could be you, man. And
36:54
Speaker 1: obviously the difference between Henry Ruggs and Trudeau Sanders is
36:59
Speaker 1: the drinking element of it, right? But that's if you're
37:06
Speaker 1: looking at it through the lens of moralizing. You know?
37:11
Speaker 1: Like a big part of why we're so hard on
37:13
Speaker 1: people for DUI is because I think that we as
37:18
Speaker 1: a society are consistently looking for ways to rationalize our
37:22
Speaker 1: own drinking. And so you put these parameters on what
37:25
Speaker 1: is responsible drinking and then the responsible drinkers get to
37:29
Speaker 1: chastise the other drinkers for doing it wrong. You know,
37:32
Speaker 1: like I think I think that's a big part of it.
37:35
Speaker 1: But in the end, Now, drugs are driving like a
37:39
Speaker 1: buck fifty. I mean, that was that's NASCAR shit. But
37:42
Speaker 1: in the end, you drive away too fast, you drive
37:44
Speaker 1: away too fast. And if you drunk, yeah, your reaction
37:47
Speaker 1: time is cut down. You drive in 100 miles an hour.
37:50
Speaker 1: Your ability to react that time is cut down to
37:53
Speaker 1: the bottom line of it is it's still just unnecessarily unsafe.
37:59
Speaker 1: And if you say you love him or that you
38:01
Speaker 1: care about him, even if you're talking about it in
38:04
Speaker 1: the parasocial ways that people do on the Internet. then
38:07
Speaker 1: what you're not doing is saying, well, what about such
38:10
Speaker 1: and such? And what you're saying is, I'm glad the
38:13
Speaker 1: cop got him instead of an ambulance. I'm glad the
38:16
Speaker 1: police got him instead of a medic, right? I am
38:20
Speaker 1: glad he got pulled over instead of getting flipped over.
38:24
Speaker 1: Because any of those things I talked about are reasonable
38:27
Speaker 1: circumstances when you're driving 100 miles an hour. All of
38:32
Speaker 1: them are. And that's before we get to the idea
38:35
Speaker 1: of Yo, rich black ass driving your fancy ass car,
38:41
Speaker 1: getting pulled over by the police. I know we don't
38:45
Speaker 1: really be talking about that stuff anymore. But aside from my,
38:50
Speaker 1: you don't want them looking in your car. You also
38:52
Speaker 1: don't want them getting nervous about you. That cop pulled up.
38:55
Speaker 1: It was like license and registration. And I was thinking
38:57
Speaker 1: the whole way, man, please tell him everything you do
39:01
Speaker 1: before you do it. So there ain't no misunderstandings. You
39:04
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it's just such a range
39:06
Speaker 1: of things that could possibly go wrong. And so we
39:09
Speaker 1: don't have to turn this into a polarized sports radio topic.
39:13
Speaker 1: But I admit on my end, it makes me think
39:17
Speaker 1: about what are the things that have happened in my
39:21
Speaker 1: own life and how much differently those things could have gone.
39:25
Speaker 1: And when I look at young people like the message
39:28
Speaker 1: you got to give them about that speed. is a
39:30
Speaker 1: man this kills people right kills them Henry Ruggs was
39:38
Speaker 1: just at some event this week where he apologized to
39:42
Speaker 1: the family of the woman you know that he killed
39:45
Speaker 1: and was just talking about how he wishes they knew
39:47
Speaker 1: a different person or whatever And I'll make this point
39:49
Speaker 1: about Ruggs just to throw this out there. I met
39:53
Speaker 1: somebody the week of that accident at an event I
39:57
Speaker 1: did in Atlanta. And this gentleman taught Ruggs is from Montgomery, Alabama.
40:02
Speaker 1: And he taught Ruggs in high school. And he told me,
40:07
Speaker 1: you have no idea what it took for him to
40:11
Speaker 1: get to where he was, that he had to do
40:14
Speaker 1: everything right to get as far as he did. And
40:19
Speaker 1: then you see what happened. And Ruggs talked about how
40:22
Speaker 1: he felt like he was a person who was trying
40:23
Speaker 1: to escape in that time. But it took that much
40:27
Speaker 1: for him to get to where he was. And being
40:31
Speaker 1: a dumbass that one night, look at what happened. Killed somebody.
40:36
Speaker 1: Wound up in jail. You know, all of those things.
40:40
Speaker 1: All that for being a dumbass that one night. The
40:43
Speaker 1: one thing that you don't ever want to have to
40:46
Speaker 1: talk about in your life It's something that stays with
40:49
Speaker 1: you forever and ever just because you was being stupid
40:52
Speaker 1: one night. You know what I mean? And so I
40:56
Speaker 1: hope for Shadua's case that he don't wind up in
40:58
Speaker 1: no situation where it ever comes up like that, where
41:01
Speaker 1: that happened. But when it comes to these topics, like
41:04
Speaker 1: I said before, we fill in our show runs, man.
41:07
Speaker 1: We don't have that much to talk about. And so
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