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Carrick Permanent, Pep Gone & Rashford Snubs United | Brighton Preview · The Fellow Reds Podcast - Manchester United

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But jazz end the season. So we thought that this kind of
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preview would be a bit Nah, but then all the things that.
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Happened quiet week hasn't it? Is well, I say what has been
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nice, It's not. There's been no drama from a
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United perspective. It's been positive, positive
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news and it's kind of positive news or obviously other than
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Arsenal in the league, but like over some of the other big news
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of the week is that I can look at in a positive manner so.
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Definitely. And I kind of don't really know
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where to start. You just kind of throw it up on
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that doubt ball there. But let's start with something
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good from United Carrot confirmed permanent.
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What do you think? Yeah, like obviously everyone
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who has come in and I'm still happy with the decision and
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yeah, like 2 + 1 contracts, it's just sensible.
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Like I don't think they need to be messing around with four or
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five year contracts. And I don't think he would have
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expected that either just based on kind of what's been happening
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in the past and being stung so many times.
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So yeah, makes sense from a contract perspective.
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And then like the the the comments from the Carrick and
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and from the club were obviously really positive.
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And Ben, like we were saying the other day with Casimiro, it's
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like when you get get into United, like there's a it's
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slightly different like love affair which people have with it
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and players and coaches have with it.
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And obviously Carrot's one of those like, yeah, he's one with
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United. He's one of our most decorated
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players. And hopefully he can start
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building on that from a management perspective as well.
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But yeah, I've got a lot of optimism with it.
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It's hard. You can't not, I guess the only
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thing is like when you get like a new manager, like say we've
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got someone new in there's, it's like a shiny object excitement.
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But because he's kind of, he's already done it already, which
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is a good thing. I guess there's not that massive
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fanfare you get when he's actually signed the contract
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because he's been doing it and he's doing a great job.
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But like if we were again, Enrique, it would be buzzing.
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But I kind of like this. It's it's like a it's steady and
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it's like karaoke, just kind of calm and there's everything's
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being quite calm and hopefully that continues and the results
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continue in the same way. But what do you think?
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Yeah, I agree. I think it's clever in terms of,
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you know, the two years. Don't go crazy Racine, your
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stuff with six years and pile on like, you know, you don't have
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to be like this is the future forever because we all know in
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football as well, things changed so quickly.
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So yeah, hopefully he smashes those two years and then he just
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keeps going, you know. But yeah, I think he really
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deserves it. Apparently, you know, best
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Premier League record of any manager since he joined.
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Well, me and you, me and you have been advocates.
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He's done so well since he did join as well.
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Well, so yeah, I'm really, I'm really happy.
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How do you think it changes? Because he comes in as an
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interim and kind of not the pressures off because he's my
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United manager, but it's a completely different feel and
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now he's the guy. What?
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What do you think changes? I guess, yeah, the pressure
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changes and then I see the window will put more pressure on
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him as well, even though like he's not really a manager
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decision anymore. It's very much a head club
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decision on who people sign. But I think last year when we
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finished 15, Favor was like, give him a window, do all this.
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So it's like what? You've got to apply those same
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rules to Carrick, especially because he's actually done well
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rather than finishing 15 and playing horrendous football.
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So you've got to give him the same kind of bandwidth.
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So you've got to hope that I think the fans will be that way
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and supporting If when we do inevitably hit some bad patches,
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we've got to hope that we we people keep backing him.
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And you do, you just know, I already know like Gary Neville
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and Roy Keane will be jumping straight, straight on him.
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And it's like, well, like Gary was pretty defensive of Amarin
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for a long time despite those horrific results.
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So I'd like to see the same. But I think also looking at like
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some of the media the last few days, like related to Fergie and
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Pep and all this kind of stuff, like we are click bait.
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Like we're the biggest click bait club in the world, right?
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So, yeah, I suspect that will continue and that will kind of,
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I don't even add pressure to Carrick himself or the club
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internally, but the fan pressure and the media pressure will be
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there whenever anything goes slightly wrong because it sells
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advertising space, it sells papers.
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It's people still buy papers, you know, I mean, so that's
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going to happen. I just think, I think he's, I
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think he knows that and I think he'll be equipped to handle it
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as well. Yeah, banging on that.
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What is it Out of the flames into the fire.
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Yeah, but I think you'll be it'll be so delighted to stop
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having to feel questions about his future now and then at least
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he can just be like, right. I mean 1000 of a daft questions
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are going to come now in different forms.
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But but yeah, both of us have said it for a while, excited
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they've done excited they've taken us forward into summer and
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hopefully that gives us a nice setup as in terms of new players
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as well to be like this. The guy we did last season, run
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upward trajectory, Let's go. But sticking with managers on
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the other side of the City, Pet Guardiola is going jazz.
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My main question is he jumping ship before shit hits the fan?
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I it's a very weird timed thing and it came out in a bit quite a
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weird way as well. Like obviously kind of must have
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got leaked and they weren't happy and all this kind of
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stuff. And then I saw I think Steve
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Harrison put a did a video the other day and he referred back
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to a quote from when the charges first came.
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And he said, I think roughly said something like if I find
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out the club have lied to me, I'll leave the next day.
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And part of you wonders, like as he found out something, the way
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the results are going to go with the charges of my that all
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thinks he's been done dirty a bit and he's like, well, kind of
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sticking to his word, which you kind of think Peps the kind of
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guy who would do that and he's just going bust me out.
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I don't know, like, oh, you might just be burnt out and just
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be like, I'm done. 10 years is a long time.
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He's been very successful. So it just seems like weird
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timing to start, start the rebuild of a squad and not to go
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out with a title win seems a bit weird because, yeah, that's the
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only thing that makes me think maybe it is related to the
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charges, but we'll find out. But I think I saw it in the news
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every day that it is like imminent the result, which will
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be I think they said early June is likely it's going to come
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out. So, yeah, it is interesting
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timing. What do you think of the timing?
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Yeah, well, yeah, first of all, obviously if the Southampton
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stuffs anything to go by, then everyone now is extra tuned into
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OK, if this stuff has happened, it needs to be serious.
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Yeah, the whole of football will be up in arms if so.
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You know, even half of these charges come through and they
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just get a slap on the wrist. Our financial Interestingly, we
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were supposed to be joined by our city mate today, weren't we
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just Phil yeah, we do have city mate yeah, we we love we love a
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man hate him, but he ran off as well because he must be scared
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It's a. City empty seat, right?
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Exactly. We should have, we should have
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put on camera just like a blue seat because that's what we're
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used to. But no, I, I'm, I don't know.
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Yeah, I think that's a bit like that.
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In his farewell message, he did say don't ask me the reasons I'm
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leaving. There is no reason.
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But deep inside I know it's my time.
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Nothing is eternal. If it was, I would be here.
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Fair. Maybe that enough.
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Maybe don't feel as the energy. But Arsenal have just won it one
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more year just to kind of go back with this team that's now
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reinforced and just get it done and leave with the Premier
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League. Just feels that he'd do that,
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yeah. So yeah, maybe it's maybe it's
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wishful thinking, but it just does feel that there's something
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else. Yeah, potentially, yeah.
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Yeah, I just think you did. You'd want to go on a high, but
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I guess you still want 2 trophies, but not not the league
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or the Champions League. So yeah, it'll be, it's going to
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be a very interesting few weeks. It will, and we'll talk about it
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more if it gets confirmed, but obviously the strong rumors are
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that the rescue would be coming in his successor.
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What do you think? Bike like obviously our mate, he
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was going to become on he was he's quite underwhelmed by it.
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I think they're concerned now about the pull, like they
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haven't just they're just not them just won the league.
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They've lost the manager, which I think pulled in a lot of
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players. Obviously money helped as well,
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but to work under part, I believe that one of the better
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best managers ever, then that's a massive pull and Maresco
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doesn't have the same pull. There's no way.
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So I think that's what City fans are concerned about, I suspect.
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And yeah, as a manager, I think with the squad they've got, like
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he will still be a title challenger, I suspect.
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I'm not imagining a massive drop off, but I'm thinking more long
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term. Like I probably don't think
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they'll win the league next year.
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And it's going to be hard to to replace some of these stars
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because there isn't someone there.
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So again, probably thinks is he The Who was it?
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I guess you think in Enzo. Enzo Moiseska, the fall guy.
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Yeah, exactly. The fall guy.
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And then again, there's probably to be our luck that like Carrick
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has a good season and 1/2 or so, then we beat him off and then
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Enrique's gone to city like 6 months before.
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Like that's what I kind of think is that it could be that kind of
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thing. But also if they do get done by
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all these charges, then I don't think many managers are wanting
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to go there either. So yeah, I think he's, I mean,
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he's the obvious appointment. He's a similar sort of styled
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manager. He's summary intense.
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It's just when you get the same reaction from the players with
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that intensity when you don't have a million trophies in your
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your back pocket like Pepto. So I think that's, yeah, it's
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going to be really interesting. Like I guess we thought when
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clock left that slot would do rubbish, but that just took
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extra season because he didn't change anything and now he's
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doing rubbish. So yeah, it's going to be
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entertaining season next year. Yeah, it's going to be really
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interesting. Like I just I don't really know
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what kind of what to make event. It's just you mentioned men in
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terms of a manager going in. Surely you would go in being
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like, look, what is the crack with these charges before I come
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in? And surely you would have
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written in your contract somewhere that if worst case
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scenario happens, you know, then I'm not, I get to exit.
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But he's going to be it. Mariska has won the championship
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before, so maybe he fancies it again.
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Or is that the flag? Fancy is League 1.
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I don't know. We'll see.
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Plan. Plan for the future.
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Yeah. He's like, oh, I can win the
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championship again. I love that though.
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It's brilliant. Brilliant.
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All right, Well, a big one, a big one, and it's kind of all
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still coming out, so we'll probably get to chat about it a
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bit more when we review the last game of the season.
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But yeah, interesting. And then Jazz, we've had a bit
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of fun with them but we'll have to see it.
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Congratulations to Arsenal on winning the Premier League.
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You know, I will say it's horrible to watch and experience
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all of them happening, but we are, if I can look at it, I am
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happier that they won it and stately winning it.
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Yeah, especially now I know Pep's leaving.
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It's even, it's better because I don't want him going out on a
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high like thing he did. So yeah, yeah, it's, I think we
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said it throughout. It's like the Arsenal fans make
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us question it. But overall I came back.
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If I had the choice, I'd choose Arsenal to win over a city.
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But it just made it a little bit difficult because I guess also
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because of this and the table doesn't lie, they deserve to win
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the league because they've won the league.
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That's the way the table works. But the way they've done it is
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like start of the season, not so bad, but second-half season it's
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been stodgy and disgusting to watch.
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Like the last few games, like 1 Nils and dodgy decisions where
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habits kind of fly into people's legs and nothing happening.
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And like the river, the green went their way for sure.
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But yeah, fair play, they won the league.
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Like I can, I can handle it, I can move on quickly.
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I just can't, I can't win the Champions League because that
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will be horrific. I've some of the videos I've
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seen already about talking, I think what is it this guy?
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I saw this one one on Arsenal fan TV doing this guy who's like
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artist has just confirmed he's the best manager in history.
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Like I know they're doing it for clickbait as well, but just why
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don't Why can't you just win a league and be happy You won a
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league without always having to go this is the best at this or
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the best of this that just you won the league.
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You're the best team this year. Then just have that.
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I'd be happy. Give this the best only one in
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22 years. So be happy, but start.
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I saw another one soccer better than Messi.
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Like what the hell? It's insanity.
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When you've been a podcast, it'd be like to have a bit of fun and
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we like to make some bold claims sometimes, but some of the stuff
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he just bonkers. It's like, how are you even
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claiming best ever? The teams have won it with 100
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points. Teams have, I hate to say it,
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but when it four times in a row like it's you're 1,000,000 miles
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off, they've won it four times ever and you know, like the city
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you're being allotted and 18 and we want it 13.
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So he's like this. So it's so far because we tried
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to start with congratulations, but right now, congratulations.
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I mean, I was surprised that it didn't go to the final game of
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the season. What do you think about that?
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Yeah, again, I thought as well with the manager stuff coming
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out on Pet, I thought sure, they're going to win that
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Bournemouth game. I didn't.
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I didn't watch it, so I don't know how close the game it was
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or if City were unlucky not to win it, but yeah, I was shocked.
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I didn't get over the line to to take it to that last game, which
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I think Arsenal would have won anyway, but now it's yeah, but
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they really haven't dropped off City last few games.
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It's odd because that's the part of the time when you like fresh
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his arm. They should they should go do
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it. And they still got a lot of
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players who have won leagues before in that team, even though
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I know there's kind of sprinkling of new players.
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But yeah, it's I was surprised that they did get I guess
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Bournemouth had something to play for as well because they
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can still get Champions League football.
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So that is possibly that they just had less bum had more fight
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sorry than City did on the day. I don't know.
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Yeah, and credits of Bournemouth, but, and we don't
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know what's happened and it sounds like Guardiola kept it as
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quiet as possible until now because he said he had to focus
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on a mission. But I was kind of thinking if
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you'd have basically kind of said to the players.
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Yeah, it's right though. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah, wouldn't, wouldn't it be?
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Well, maybe you get a mixed reaction because some of them
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might think you, you know, I've just signed.
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Yeah, yeah, a bit like it happened with like Van Persie
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and stuff with Fergie. But surely they would be then a
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little bit more of an emotional end.
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And like you say, a game at Bournemouth just wouldn't have
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happened. But who knows, he might.
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He may have done that. But.
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Apparently what I heard is that he told them the day before the
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Bournemouth game basically that he was staying now he was
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staying and then and then and then it got leaked obviously
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that he's leaving and then that's obviously that some of
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the players are unhappy. But still you think you still
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got a potential outside chance of winning the league.
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So if that doesn't still get you motivated to try and beat
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Bournemouth, then I think they just dropped off in general
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towards the end of the season. Like maybe that Arsenal one nil
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win against Bernie just kind of killed their hopes.
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But what happened? Now Palace will probably batter
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Arsenal like 4 Nils. Yeah, well they're all drunk and
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they're all been out in London till the early hours and stuff
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as well. So but that that to me is not
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best manager moves ever. I think Fergie would have
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handled that a little bit differently, wouldn't he, in
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terms of getting the players up for it.
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But yeah, again we're having to congratulate Arsenal.
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We will also congratulate Pat because you know, he has done
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stuff, a lot of good stuff obviously there unfortunately,
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but might all be Astrid anyway. Harry Tyson, they.
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Went 115 was it? One that that's charges that.
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Charges. Yeah, yeah.
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Not championships. No, no, no, no.
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Yeah, yeah. Some of the news, y'all and John
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McGinn lifting the role police and you know Emory.
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Why do they just call it that? You know Emory.
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Trophy. Yeah.
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You know, you know, you know, you know, you're in police.
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Yeah, that's 5. 5 now, right? From. 1.
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Have you seen in the final to? Every.
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With Arsenal, I was it wasn't he lost it with Yeah, yeah.
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But did you see that? That.
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Every team that he's won it with had Villa in the name Villa
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Royale Severe. Yeah, yeah, I'm not claiming
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that. I was all over Twitter.
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Yeah, quite, quite interested. So now I was thinking I wonder
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if he's put 2 together and joined Aston Villa for that
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exact. Reason I think who did he go to
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next to when you're open league with?
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It'd be like a villa, some like Argentinian team or something.
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Gonna play, yeah, yeah. But yeah, Congrats to them.
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Yeah, yeah, it's nice, kind of. I've enjoyed watching their
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celebrations. Although I will say I saw a clip
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of Sancho just like really loving it.
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And I just saw this guy like enjoy the time and stuff.
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But I don't know, we're just spitter by a moment.
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See. Yeah, we are.
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We are, We are. But credit to Villa.
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Yeah, this. Is 1 of things when it's like
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clubs like that winning trophies like I'm always would like to
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see Villa do well. I want Palace to win the final,
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which basically maybe they don't want to see win things.
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It's basically like Chelsea, Spursish, well, obviously when
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they played us, but obviously then Arsenal, Liverpool, City, I
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don't want to see them winning anything.
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But everyone else I'm kind of like, yeah, crack on and Oh
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yeah, I'll just get Champions League spots and stuff, doesn't
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it? Because now I think it's down to
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sip, right? It's Champions League football.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's an interesting final,
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final day with that as well. Yeah, exactly.
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Question for you Jazz, would you swap United season for Villa
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season now so. While they finish Champions
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League football and when they Ripley and Yeah.
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Same. I was thinking of the other day
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and I was like, would I swap it? I'll be honest, this this is
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sometimes where we get called about elitist and stuff.
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I'm not a big lover of Europa League artists, I don't fully
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get it, but obviously it comes some amazing trips and some
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amazing games that happen. But I was thinking, yeah, I
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actually just had a thought there and I thought would I
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would I swap and probably wouldn't.
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Yeah, because they've still got what we've got in the and it
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plays behind a trophy and then celebrate this.
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Yeah. So yeah, I would.
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I'd swap it. Fair, fair.
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All right, let's keep marching on the moment got to the game
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yet, because there's so much going on and this is another big
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topic. I know you're a Scotsman, so
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we've got a little bit. You're not as in it as me, but
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too cool. I'm still.
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I'm still in it, especially when it comes to the United players.
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They obviously want to see United players at the.
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World Cup and tell tell everyone what you hope for England
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typically in tournaments that you always say to me.
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To get to get either at least to like a semi final or a fire they
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can get to final but basically you just never win it.
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Because I like the atmosphere of England going fire and my
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friends being happy and like drinking until the end.
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Until. Then you want us to cry?
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I want you to cry and lose some penalties.
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So yeah, that's my usual, my usual thinking behind it
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actually. Even more so when Scotland
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haven't made one. But we've made it this time, so.
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Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
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I'm looking forward to World Cup content.
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But yeah, England squad jazz, what do you think?
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Yeah, like I just, it's a weird squad, but obviously the spine
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of it kind of obviously most of it makes sense, but there's a
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quite a few that I just I'd feel pretty gufty to with some of the
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players. I think the big, big one from
21:07
from the United perspective is obviously McGuire.
21:09
Like, I think he's had a great season.
21:11
He even he said it himself, like he offers so much in both boxes.
21:15
Like even if he's not starting, like bringing him on for the
21:18
last 10 minutes against a team for corners, like, and he's done
21:23
it. He's proven it time and time
21:24
again for for England as well. So that one really shocked me.
21:27
And I think if you saw, OK, Johnstone has been fit and
21:30
playing well all season, then you go, OK, fine, but he's
21:33
barely played. And even again, our mate city
21:36
fan, he was like, I wouldn't have taken stones either.
21:39
So I think that kind of shows that he he should be in there.
21:43
And now I'm like, are you guys gonna I was thinking about this.
21:46
Do you think because of his posts say concert gets injured,
21:51
doesn't Ben, do you think they'll bring McGuire in or do
21:53
you reckon he'll bring someone else in there because he's, you
21:55
know, he's a bit like a temperamental manager, isn't he
21:56
So. You might not have seen this
21:59
because it was kind of just live before this, but I watched you
22:01
close press conference and he got asked the question about the
22:04
post and he kind of handled it. You kind of handled it well, but
22:07
you could always quite blunt and honest.
22:10
And he said he was surprised. You mentioned a couple of times
22:13
he said he was surprised by the post and he said he was
22:16
surprised because they had had a private conversation.
22:19
So I definitely don't think it's gone down well.
22:21
It's all I'd say it could really affect him, but he.
22:23
Tried to translate surprise into German.
22:26
That's human in it. Yeah, absolutely living.
22:29
Yeah. And through that, you raised a
22:31
good point as well in terms of he he just has to be there
22:37
because he's played for England so often after during seasons
22:41
when he's just been so much worse.
22:42
And this is like probably the best.
22:44
And. Then he's been through so much
22:47
the person, which why is that relevant?
22:48
Well, in a tournament you need to be so resilient and from lots
22:51
of ups and downs and it's just, it doesn't make sense because
22:55
you know, you look at I've got a lot of time for him.
22:56
But Dan Burn, for example, how do you compare them to on paper
23:00
and everything? Is it because he's played left?
23:02
But this season is the only reason I can think that Dan
23:04
Burns gone over. He's acted like he was between
23:07
Stones and McGuire and Dan Ben was.
23:09
I saw Dan Ben has that he has been playing left back a bit,
23:13
which again, he's not. He's not a realistic if I'm
23:16
Lewis Hall as well, he's probably in the best left back
23:19
in the league this year and he's English and he's not in the
23:22
squad. But your mate Dan Burney fills
23:24
in that time again. He's in there.
23:26
So that was well, never wanted to call you.
23:27
I was like, that's an odd one. Yeah.
23:31
And I kind of can get the shore thing because like he obviously
23:36
has. He's played every game this year
23:37
and he's been well, he's played well.
23:40
But I guess if you're thinking like attacking outlet, he
23:45
doesn't really have the legs to do that anymore, so that's
23:48
probably why he doesn't blend. Does Dan Bern have the
23:50
overlapping his pace? Probably not so.
23:53
Yeah, but then Jed spends, for example, like is it you might
23:57
get relegated, you know, I mean, and it's like, I don't know,
23:59
he's just making he's making calls to call, which is like,
24:03
you know, if we win it, the only the only way we get out of this
24:05
is if we win it. Everyone goes this much.
24:07
Yeah, he's made the right choices, yeah.
24:10
Doesn't care what anyone says. He's made some great.
24:12
It's a great blend. It just worked out amazing.
24:15
If we don't win it, there's going to be more questions than
24:18
the norm is which, you know, it's a circuit anywhere around
24:20
England. So he's made some massive calls.
24:22
I think let's go through some of us as well.
24:25
No trend, I mean. I've not seen much of him this
24:29
year I think from what I could see in the Champions League Real
24:33
which I saw a few games. Same as old trend he basically
24:37
you can put a worldly ball in, can cross but can't defend.
24:39
So I get why he's yeah, not made it.
24:43
Yeah, yeah, no, totally, totally.
24:46
And then we've got folder no folder, no Palmer, which in a
24:50
way I'm. I agree with that.
24:53
It's quite. Refreshing, yeah, because a lot
24:55
of time it's just pick the names, isn't it?
24:57
And it has to be there. But like if they've not had the
24:59
seasons and they're not necessarily fully fit or on it,
25:02
like why should they go? Yeah, I get that.
25:04
And it's a position which is a lot of talent anyway.
25:06
So I I feel like there's the squad's not really missing much.
25:09
And then Fodor's never played well for England either.
25:12
So yeah, it makes makes sense. And I feel sorry for War and you
25:17
know, he's a player and but I think there's like quite a few
25:21
options as well. And I think it'll get his chance
25:24
going forward. He probably just needs a bit of
25:26
a move, doesn't need to be playing at a higher level to
25:27
probably get even more on the radar.
25:29
Yeah, missing him. I don't, I don't think not.
25:31
I mean Wharton means that the squads lacking a particular
25:34
style or skill or something. It's just he would be another
25:37
good option in midfield if they're going to start.
25:41
I guess actually the only thing I would be was talking for
25:44
obvious one is Henderson because I'd literally have no idea why
25:47
he's in the squad like. What did Roy Keane say?
25:50
Is he do card tricks or something?
25:52
Yeah, I don't know. What what does he do though?
25:54
Like The thing is, he doesn't mean starting for for Brentford
25:58
every week and he's in the squad.
25:59
I'm like how? Because if you want that
26:02
experience in this stuff, then we'll take McGuire because he's
26:05
been playing well and he has all the experience that Henderson
26:07
has and Henderson's never been a quality player.
26:10
So I'm baffled by that one. Like, the one I feel sorry for
26:15
the most is probably Gibbs White.
26:16
I think he's been quality this season and he's been getting his
26:19
performance recently been better.
26:21
He's been improving as the summers got closer.
26:24
And yeah, I feel very sorry for him.
26:27
He's quite like he can play in multiple positions.
26:30
So I felt pretty sorry for him and I thought he'd be a good
26:33
addition in there. I'd agree.
26:36
I think we raved about him as well, didn't we last week in the
26:39
in the review of the game top player.
26:41
You know, we are blessed with a lot of players and people are
26:45
going to have to miss out on it just have to be based on I like
26:48
you know, we don't want golden generations and names picked.
26:50
We want a proper team that squad.
26:52
More importantly, they can go and win this thing.
26:55
But and so you, like I said, some of the decisions I
26:57
understand, but some of my. What do you think containing?
26:59
Inclusion. Yeah, I was going to say I think
27:02
I'm happy with that because I mean without being very painful.
27:08
Well, I think all right. You've done me, I think.
27:13
That's why you think we know how's he going in front of Danny
27:16
Welbeck. He's been scoring goals in and
27:18
he's always scored for England when he's played as well.
27:20
And yes, I think I've not seen Tony stats for this year.
27:24
I don't know. He goes it in story.
27:26
Ridiculous, but he's he's scored like I think it's 40 plus gold
27:30
or something and I'm not being disrespectful, but obviously a
27:34
different level. But then we won't we won't any
27:38
well, but anyway, but look at the well.
27:39
But what he's been doing, he's been basically like coming on
27:41
making him like he's happy to kind of be second fiddle a
27:44
little bit, mainly because of his age and that kind of stuff.
27:47
But when he has started he's done it.
27:48
So for me he just like would be a no brainer in the squad, but I
27:51
guess he's looking at like, you know, all the strikers are
27:54
available. And he said in his press
27:56
conference that he managed. Did he manage or play with the
28:01
manager of Tony right now? And he keeps getting really good
28:03
feedback about him and stuff. So you have an idea.
28:05
Some of the mad stuff go be about relationships and things.
28:09
But Tony's a goal scorer. He's been playing at a lesser
28:12
level. So I don't know what that means.
28:14
But he's also got a bit about him, which.
28:16
I guess it was a might be fresher in his hand, like if
28:18
he's not playing such a high intensity lead and maybe after a
28:22
hard season for lots of these players, he has more in the bank
28:26
obviously. And conference is hard.
28:27
It's got lots of goals. Also the strikers massive to
28:31
have confidence, yeah. Well, Speaking of attackers and
28:34
let's end the England chat on on this.
28:36
You you made me aware of it just before we started recording.
28:39
But I made Marcus Rashford is in which fair enough.
28:43
Yeah. Then why is he have to have a
28:44
little? I know I said dig because
28:46
there's no need for it. Like at the end of day, maybe
28:50
explain explain for people who he did a insta post basically
28:55
saying obviously he feels really happy to have made the England
28:58
squad, but then he called out like thanks to Hansy click
29:01
again, fine, he's your current manager in bar.
29:02
So yeah, great. But then he's already added on
29:05
Unai Emery, he's added on Billa, he's added on.
29:08
Is it someone else? Who else with it?
29:10
Basically everyone apart from United.
29:12
I mean, you wouldn't even be about any of these clubs if it
29:16
wasn't United. Like, I know it just frustrates
29:19
me that he makes out like he was done dirty at United, which he
29:24
wasn't. He wasn't putting the effort in.
29:26
He wasn't putting the work in. Like was always playing with a
29:29
smile on his face now. And it's really nice to see.
29:31
It's like that's your boyhood club that you support.
29:36
Like how, why? Where was the effort?
29:38
Where was the smile? Like it's just you should be
29:40
appreciative of being at the club you grew up supporting and
29:44
being happy. And so I just, yeah, fine if he
29:47
feels that way. But those little subtle digs, he
29:49
keeps making it United. He's done it a few Times Now.
29:51
Just move on, mate. We've moved on.
29:54
You just should just move on as well.
29:55
But he keeps making these little comments and interviews and all
29:58
this kind of stuff, and it's just like, unnecessary.
30:02
Yeah, nailed on Jazz like and to me it just shows his true
30:06
character a little bit because you know, Bruno keeps getting
30:09
slammed all the time for everything he does.
30:11
But he's such a professional, the way he talks, the way he
30:13
conducts himself. You don't do snide things like
30:16
that, Rashford. There's no need to do this like
30:18
in theories kind of I would say ticking as well.
30:20
We're down, but we're not we're not down or in a good spot.
30:23
Obviously we're down in terms of we haven't won anything this
30:25
season after that. But even if you post it and just
30:28
kept a generic and just thanks to my managers, my clubs that
30:31
kind of stuff or just don't post at all, but it just shows he's
30:34
got this little bit of yeah, shit about him.
30:37
And if the man forgets the reason why he's where he's at is
30:40
because from I can't remember what the age he joined, but
30:43
we've done so much towards his career progression and his
30:47
development and then he's gone on to do the things he's doing.
30:50
So we might have ended badly and you might not have been treated
30:53
well at the very end, but don't write off the club.
30:55
That's basically like. Those are the fans.
30:57
Like I've seen social media, other people reacting like I
31:02
have. And we have like, I think
31:06
sometimes you think people forget that the reach and the
31:09
people who are viewing this and the people who care about
31:11
Manchester United and used to care about Rasford, and you're
31:14
kind of just snubbing them and tarnishing everyone with the
31:17
same brush where maybe it was just, yeah, I'm, I mean, you
31:19
didn't get on or and so on. So it's just, yeah, it's just
31:25
not nice, is it? I think I just think there's no
31:26
need for it. Just just move on and stay
31:28
quiet. Apparently thinks it's a little
31:32
bit linked to the people around him but also there's this kind
31:35
of what's going to happen with him officially in terms of
31:39
Barcelona trying to get him on the cheap.
31:41
That's where he wants to go. Is he trying to do?
31:43
Is this to stab him doing a bit of a Ronaldo and a kickoff so
31:46
that we're like miffed with him and we kind of like wash our
31:50
hands of him and just try and. Just take it for 10 million.
31:52
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, which I again that's.
31:55
I'd rather I'd rather just bring him back and you can sit in the
31:58
reserves if he wasn't on so much money, But like, yeah, if the
32:03
way if you disrespect the club like he is doing, like we can
32:07
just disrespect you. Yeah, I guess I can't figure if
32:09
I was a multi multi billionaire, I'd be like I've got the power
32:13
here, but you don't actually have the power.
32:15
I have the power. Jim Radcliffe and go yeah, I'll
32:17
just write off a billion quid. I'll no £17 million.
32:21
Whoever is I probably made an interest in a month.
32:23
So I'll put that in just just just despite you, which he
32:26
could. He has the power to do that, but
32:29
I'm sure that won't happen. Now I'm not a stupid like time
32:33
to do it as well. Almost you can imagine almost if
32:35
hammering we're still kicking around.
32:36
But worst case you get to the in theory, go back to Manchester
32:40
United, 1 of the biggest clubs in the world on the up with
32:43
Michael Carrick, a manager that actually likes him.
32:46
Yeah, and with us having a bit of a unknown on this left side
32:50
as well. So it's it just seems ridiculous
32:53
and like, yeah, you mentioned you show me you show me the post
32:55
and I was just like, what are you doing?
32:56
What do you get out of it? You're all you've had a good end
32:59
to the season. You go into the World Cup, just
33:01
say I'm buzzing. Can't wait.
33:02
To go and. And leave it and.
33:05
But yeah, so stupid. And he's just not helping the
33:09
love for, you know, from up from United Funds, that's for sure.
33:13
But yeah, all right, literally quite a few talking points
33:17
there. We've got we've got a game to
33:20
look forward to. To be honest, we can probably
33:21
keep this pretty short as because let's be honest, last
33:24
game of the season, it is a bit of a, you know, non event.
33:28
Let's just say Brighton, they'll probably be a bit more skin in
33:32
the game. Obviously they've got 53 points
33:35
and depending on results they can and goals they can jump
33:39
across a jump ahead of Bournemouth as well.
33:42
So they've got. Nottingham Forest away.
33:49
So I think Bournemouth would win that.
33:50
So yeah, Brighton. But yeah, like basically
33:54
Brighton have a bigger, a much bigger incentive to win
33:57
obviously at home last game of season and and something to play
34:00
for. So yeah, I don't think it's
34:02
gonna be an easy afternoon for us.
34:05
No, it needs to be a bit of a gold swing as well, I think for
34:07
Brighton. But yeah, I think for us it's
34:10
the Bruno mission, right? Let's try and get him at 21.
34:12
Yeah. And then that's, I mean, if we
34:17
lose, if we lose like 3-2 or something, but Bruno's got his
34:19
assistant. Wouldn't that be asked?
34:22
Really? I just want, I want him.
34:24
That's that's the mission for the day.
34:26
Obviously we always want to win the matches, but like for him to
34:28
get that extra step, like, or if he got 2 assists, he ranks the
34:32
European assist record as well. But I think it's Mueller.
34:35
And so, yeah, like that's what we're hoping for.
34:38
And I don't know, I feel like it will happen.
34:40
I don't know if you agree, but I think it's going to happen.
34:44
So do I, so do I, I really want it to, and I think you will.
34:47
So let's see. Interesting as well.
34:49
Castamero is not going to play. Yeah, we saw that.
34:53
Yeah, we spoke last game about it being he's like Old Trafford
34:56
farewell. And I kept slipping into it
34:58
being his last game. I must have known, Yeah.
35:00
It kind of makes sense when Sky explained it, didn't it?
35:02
Like saying yeah, he's going out on a high, It's a nice way to
35:06
end. We won the game, he got the
35:08
amazing reception. Like if he actually last game
35:10
for United was actually a loss to Brighton away.
35:13
And yeah, I think it's quite nice.
35:16
And also it's quite a good opportunity.
35:18
Again, we'll get to teams in a minute, but for maybe to show
35:22
some youth in some kind of key position and almost like it's
35:27
like a free hit with playing some of these players.
35:30
But then she because, well, we didn't want to play cast.
35:33
We already agreed with that. And I don't know, maybe I don't
35:35
know who knows about Yatte, But like, yeah, I think it's a free
35:38
hit of a game really for some young blood to come into come
35:41
into the team. Or should we have a go?
35:44
I think this is I think will be will do very well to get this
35:47
on. Well, go on chess then.
35:48
I think my just to help you and maybe let's do it together.
35:51
I think he's kind of going to be a bit of a farewell maybe for
35:53
some players or a bit of a shot window a bit and a bit of youth.
35:56
Yeah, maybe, but go on. Ever be brave of a star?
36:00
But what do you think? I'm still going to go.
36:03
I'll see Elevens and go. I'm still going to be Dallow, I
36:05
think. I think it may be, I'm tempted
36:09
to say Heaven and Martinez. That's a sense about caring.
36:16
I think Shaw will play because if he does play and start, he's
36:18
started every game with the Premier League season as you a
36:20
nice little thing for him. So I think he'll start and then
36:24
copy in the field. And this is where I'm like Mike,
36:30
I would like him just to play like Jim Thwaites or something
36:32
like that, but I don't think he will.
36:34
I think it'll either be mount or Ugate there.
36:38
I'm leaning towards Mount because I think what playing
36:44
Ugate for one game isn't Maker gonna make someone go, Oh yeah,
36:46
I'm going to spend 30 million on him.
36:49
So I think maybe he won't start and it'll be Mount and then
36:54
obviously Bruno and then it's Cesco still out, right?
36:59
I think so. It's this injury again.
37:01
Anyone with the world? They're not in the World Cup,
37:04
no. No, they're not.
37:05
Scrap that. I'm talking nonsense.
37:07
But yeah, I think he's still got a doubt.
37:08
Yeah, So I was thinking, is this where we can throw someone in?
37:12
So you could have like Brian Lacey and Cuna.
37:21
We'd be nice to see Shay Lacey start.
37:23
I think in that game he played against Burnley cameo, like he
37:28
looked really good. So it'd be nice to see him
37:29
start. Like, I don't know where else
37:32
you would start. Like it's easy to start a youth
37:36
player in like attacking position because if you make
37:39
mistakes, it's less costly, which is why it may be why we
37:43
will see Mountain main field. But you obviously got like
37:46
Fletcher Brothers and stuff like that.
37:48
Potentially. I think we'll see lots of Subs
37:50
come on, but I think maybe maybe Shay Lacy might be one that
37:53
could start potentially. I don't know what you think
37:57
like. Yeah, good effort because this
37:58
is difficult. And I, I think it could be a bit
38:02
bonkers because I think we spoke about it before, like you can
38:06
almost like give up on the Premier League and like have
38:08
focus on the World Cup. But I think now with it being
38:11
one game left, we've kind of nothing to play for.
38:13
It's almost a bit justified now to almost be like, is it really
38:16
worth the risk for some of our better players to even play
38:20
this? So I could even see for example,
38:22
like Lemon's not actually playing for example, you know, I
38:25
mean and like many changes. He's not going to start, he's
38:29
not a starting goalkeeper in the World Cup, so I think he'll
38:31
probably play. Yeah, My guess, yeah.
38:35
Maybe, but you've got, you know, we've got people in school like
38:37
by India is really just a chance to be like in this game, you
38:40
know, I'm ever going to play if I'm not, if I'm not going to
38:42
play with other things going on. So I don't know.
38:45
I'm telling me seeing wherever you'll go.
38:47
Yeah, like you say, almost strong to begin with, then start
38:50
doing. A lot of.
38:50
Changes I think McGuire, obviously it might be a bit of
38:53
AFU game for him, you know, in terms of back back to to cool.
38:58
And then they like say, I think we will see some some youth all
39:02
being well, the likes of Lacy. But yeah, I can maybe see
39:06
amount. I can maybe see zerks he coming
39:08
in just a proper mix up to go. OK guys, you know, almost a
39:11
farewell shop window. Yeah, I guess it could be either
39:14
last game for like Xerxi and buying deer and people like that
39:18
and. But this is me.
39:20
This is me balling the liner. Really.
39:21
I think you did a better job. Yeah.
39:23
My theme is that I think Tarek might go very different and
39:27
they'll we look. At it, I think I'd like to see
39:29
that because I went obviously back in the day when we had one
39:33
leagues and they were wrapped up by Fergie used to check in like
39:35
6 youngsters and it was mad and we often would lose games and
39:39
the decision, but who cared? So I'm hoping I'd like I think
39:44
we'll get to predictions, but I feel like we're probably going
39:46
to lose whatever team we play, if that makes sense.
39:48
Like even if we went with all senior players but like made
39:54
changes like Xexicane comes in and there's no specific he's
39:57
injured and you have Ahmad and junior and you have many new and
40:01
legate. Like I still think because of
40:04
Brighton have so much more to play for.
40:06
We might still lose anyway. So it's like well raised.
40:08
Well just checking some youth, not like the whole not half a
40:12
team, but at least. Like start a couple maybe would
40:14
be nice to see. And then maybe you do go.
40:16
We've not seen Yoro for a while. Like maybe it could be heaven
40:19
and Yoro starting. But yeah, I don't think, I don't
40:24
think, I don't know if I don't think we'll see Pioneer.
40:26
But other than that, yeah. Let's say I'm expecting to get
40:30
the old off case and then go, yeah, but maybe obviously.
40:34
But it is his first game as permanent manager, right?
40:36
So maybe he actually does want to, you know?
40:37
Yeah, that's true for that, yeah.
40:40
Yes, this is the hardest one we've probably done, but go on
40:42
then give me a predicted score and scorers if you want to try
40:45
based on well. I did say I will never predict
40:50
United lost, so I'm still not going to predict one even though
40:53
I just said I think we'll lose 32A minute.
40:55
So I'm going to go 32 United, right?
41:00
And I'm goal scorers. Goal scorers, Kenya.
41:07
Now I'm thinking that, like you said, that maybe McGuire will
41:09
start. So again, McGuire slab header
41:12
just to piss off too. Concha, this is what I can
41:15
offer. That's Bruno.
41:17
That's Bruno's assist. And then, yeah, I don't know.
41:21
Shay Lacey, can you get on? My head this is so ridiculous in
41:27
terms of prediction. So I have done 221 United and I
41:32
did a McGuire with an FU goal. I did a Bruno and I've had and
41:37
Bueno as well. I just think McGuire is going to
41:39
score and maybe just take off all his clothes or whatever and
41:41
just like run around like a madman.
41:43
Just, you know, just against Tickle.
41:45
Yeah, can just see it happening. But yeah, you've pinched me,
41:49
pinched my thing again there, But OK, OK, so narrow wins.
41:54
Like we say, it'll be modest. Interesting to see a better
41:56
rotation. But still, as always, it's
41:58
United. We should celebrate the end of a
42:01
a decent season. You know, it's not good enough
42:03
still for the club, but we'll have it anyway.
42:07
For now it's a preview. It's the last one of the season.
42:11
So as always, challenge Chaz. We've talked about loads so I've
42:14
kept this quick fire linked to what we've been chatting about.
42:18
Ask you one question before we get into chance, Chaz.
42:21
All gone in. Who's getting relegated, Spurs
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or West Ham? Yeah, F Collins forgot about
42:28
that. Great reminder.
42:29
Yeah, like I say, with the title dance and European battles,
42:32
which don't forget, I mean I called it a long time ago and
42:36
said Spurs are going to get relegated.
42:38
Spurs have got leads right. Sure, Yeah.
42:42
And obviously in more recent, you know, the games, Spurs have
42:46
looked a bit bare. West Ham got beat by Newcastle.
42:49
So in theory, all the sense, Oh no, sorry, Spurs have got
42:53
Everton. Spurs have got leads.
42:57
Yeah, yeah, I still think Spurs are going to go down.
43:01
Really. I just.
43:03
I think they're going to stay pressed by goal difference, I
43:06
think. I think they're because if
43:07
spares lose and West Ham drawers spares that with goal
43:11
difference, we've got a massively better goal
43:13
difference. So that's why I think it's going
43:14
to. Happen.
43:14
Yeah, OK. OK.
43:17
So yeah, yeah. I don't know.
43:21
I just can imagine, you know, the classic last day, all
43:24
kickoffs are the same. And then at their stadium, they
43:27
hear about West Ham scoring and then it's just a load of like
43:30
tension and pressure. It's a horrible place to go when
43:33
you need a result. Is everything, because yeah, I
43:35
guess it again, everything. I've nothing to play for unless
43:38
they can sneak into the Conference league or something.
43:40
I don't know actually. Yeah, Spurs are at home at this.
43:43
So that's what that's what I kind of meant in terms of I can
43:46
just imagine it being that stadium.
43:49
We're full of home funds either being worse.
43:51
I think Spurs would benefit from playing away because they just
43:54
have like their car fans there cheering them on by home.
43:57
I think you could get ugly. So I don't know why, but I just
44:00
think Spurs going to go down. In theory, Everton could still
44:03
sneak into the Conference League, yeah, up to like 8th or
44:08
9th, but so you have something to play for, like a reason to
44:12
win. But yeah, Everton, a nice team
44:15
to play when you need a result. We'll keep an eye on that.
44:19
Good reminder, Chad. They almost forgot about that.
44:21
You can change that. It could be.
44:23
You can challenge me now. Yeah, go on, challenge Jazz.
44:26
Like, say, just a few quick fire and linked to what I've been
44:29
talking about #1 how many years since Arsenal last won the
44:33
league? 2201 or none?
44:39
Nailed it. Bruno's 20 assists record at the
44:43
minute, it puts in level with which two players.
44:46
Ornery and De Bruyne. Straight.
44:49
In I'm one behind my land. Yeah, I think you asked this
44:53
before and we had a little bit of a joke, but how many trophies
44:56
did Pep win at City? Unfortunately, they're going to
44:59
get taken away from him. Are a big asterisk spot next to
45:01
them. Was it, I don't know if they
45:05
kick, if it counts what you call it, community Shields or not, I
45:09
think is it 25 or 22 or something?
45:13
My my data, which as we know is always the answer whether it's
45:17
right or not. Is 2020 OK?
45:20
Yeah. But you are right, I don't know
45:22
if actually charity Shields are covered in.
45:24
I guess it's a trophy, right? Yeah.
45:27
Yeah, but madly to me, like I say, that's so much to talk
45:30
about today. It's just all happening at the
45:33
end of the season. It's still a little bit to
45:34
finish, yeah, this season as well, and then going into World
45:39
Cup here as well. So stick with us.
45:41
Obviously it will be back before the World Cup with a review of,
45:45
I guess not just a match, but more importantly the last day of
45:48
the season, how some of these stories are going to unfold,
45:52
who's getting relegated, more updates on PET, all that kind of
45:55
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45:59
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46:00
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46:03
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46:06
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