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NFL Week 1 FNF Showdown | Packers @ Eagles | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: What the the the.
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  Speaker 2: The the.
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  Speaker 1: The the.
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  Speaker 2: The what's up? Ember one? Tyler Tambalin here aka Totag
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: and Tambo back for another edition. We were back on
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  Speaker 2: our station for this one. Back for the Friday night
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  Speaker 2: football is what we're coining it. The International Series game
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  Speaker 2: in Brazil, Green Bay, Philadelphia Eagles. Gonna break it all
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  Speaker 2: down for you guys and more. We'll pull up Ship
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  Speaker 2: the Miser of the Stone. We'll have everything up so
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  Speaker 2: you can sort of see the options. We're gonna go through, captains, roster, construction, ownership,
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  Speaker 2: how you can build the lineups. Deffinitely a ton of
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  Speaker 2: options on this slake. Got the resident Green Bay Packers
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  Speaker 2: fan in the house with our guy title, got Hoopster
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  Speaker 2: back here with us. But you probably saw the video
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  Speaker 2: on the way, and I could just run that video
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  Speaker 2: back one more again, like that little beat gets me
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  Speaker 2: hyped up, so excited to be back talking some showdown.
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  Speaker 2: You guys probably saw a huge night one of success
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  Speaker 2: for Ship at Nation, but who gonna bring you in first?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: It was a huge night for the Nation, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it was some confusion. We loved likely, but we
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  Speaker 2: didn't really get to him. A lot of us got
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  Speaker 2: caught like it was worthy lineups. We liked Worthy in
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  Speaker 2: the Captain and we loved Likely. You mentioned him a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of time stuff too. But actually that's why we
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  Speaker 2: didn't really get all the way home. My lineup even
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  Speaker 2: the main was a flip off the two of them.
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  Speaker 2: But really, good night overall, man. How you doing today?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good night, good game. I mean
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch from the entertainment standpoint, even if you're
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  Speaker 1: you're not somebody that's on the gambling well yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean not for you, but for everyone else, I mean
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  Speaker 1: all the normal people that don't root for the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: It was, it was. It was a good night. But
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  Speaker 1: that's what you want, a game that goes down to
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  Speaker 1: the end, last play and you know, unfortunately for the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens people, and had his toe on the line. I
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  Speaker 1: thought mahomes comment was great. He said what he say
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  Speaker 1: something like don't or don't wear white shoes or something
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 3: It was great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we were on the Likely stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't plan in Captain and that's what ended up costing me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I had way over the field and flex
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  Speaker 1: didn't play them in Captain, so didn't get the full shipment.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was right there.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I know, this is like a thing that
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  Speaker 1: people always say when they lose. Oh I broke even,
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  Speaker 1: but I was right around break even. And I'll take
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  Speaker 1: that for a night. One of of NFL had some
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  Speaker 1: you know, really really good teams. But he got no
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  Speaker 1: likely in captain, not likely to win when you didn't
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  Speaker 1: didn't have that last last night. The show went great
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  Speaker 1: yesterday in terms of the calls, the content was was
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  Speaker 1: spot on and a lot of big wins, uh in
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  Speaker 1: the community and on our content team. You know, Nate's
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  Speaker 1: got the job done. You did, Scarface, got the job done. Scarface?
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  Speaker 1: You know, continues man, It's just it's relentless pressure from
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  Speaker 1: him at the top of these leader boards, just always
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  Speaker 1: right there in the big boy contest. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: very thankful to have him, uh being a part of
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  Speaker 1: our team this NFL season. Great, gonna be an great
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  Speaker 1: asset to the ship and nation community. But in terms
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  Speaker 1: of today, we get a bonus Friday night, a showdown game,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we're going through the schedule like we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do a show for that, and all three of
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  Speaker 1: us are like absolutely, I mean, these are our favorite shows.
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  Speaker 1: I love doing these shows, these showdown shows, so so
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  Speaker 1: much fun doing them with you guys. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: break it down Eagles Packers, and you know we got
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  Speaker 1: a Packers fan on here too, so make it a
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  Speaker 1: little more enjoyable.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get right to that package fan in a second.
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  Speaker 2: But I like how you called it a full shipment.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't quite get the full shipment last night. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't come through, but a lot of nights it is
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  Speaker 2: coming through.
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  Speaker 1: You got MMA had a few things on back order,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't bet the full shipment didn't come through.
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  Speaker 2: They can't get through the MMA packages that got shipped
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  Speaker 2: to you over the last three states. And it's coming
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  Speaker 2: back tomorrow. So you're not a room. But guy, that's
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  Speaker 2: a big part of that as well. Title. We got
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  Speaker 2: some stuff going on this weekend with MMA, with the
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  Speaker 2: sixty four man Showdown and whatnot. But we're here to
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  Speaker 2: talk Packers Eagles. My friend, how was your first night?
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  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts that game? I know it's from a
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  Speaker 2: Ravens fan, not the greatest, but man, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: too too many flags, not against the Ravens. I called
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  Speaker 2: the biggest flag of the game that should have been
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  Speaker 2: called was Mahomes was five feet out of bounds and
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  Speaker 2: they smashed them and they didn't throw the flag for that.
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  Speaker 2: But I just thought the never ending flag league the
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  Speaker 2: NFL to start the season game one, like, let the
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  Speaker 2: game already started twenty minutes late. Let us watch the game.
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  Speaker 2: It was. It was tough watch for me. The ending
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  Speaker 2: turned out to be great. The DFS side wonderful. How
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  Speaker 2: are you doing title? What's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, the NFL must have really told those rests.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure every single lineman has their head with
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  Speaker 4: the tat or the guard or.
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  Speaker 1: What is so stupid? Man? Those calls are just so dumb,
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  Speaker 1: just like nobody at home wants to see that ship,
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  Speaker 1: Like the players don't want to see it. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: play some fucking football, like you can get rid of
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  Speaker 1: all that crap. It's so stupid.
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  Speaker 3: It hurt him a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, eight Flowers pass interference was like sixty fifty yards
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  Speaker 4: down field. Those negated because of that.
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  Speaker 1: Holding call too. On the Lamar Jackson, Like it was
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  Speaker 1: a thirty yard run and he, I mean barely touches
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  Speaker 1: the guy and they're calling holding and the only reason
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  Speaker 1: they threw the flag is because the guy threw his
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  Speaker 1: hands up in the air. They're like, oh, he must
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  Speaker 1: have been held, we'll throw the flag. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: just dumb stuff like that, like let's like, let's just
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  Speaker 1: play football.
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  Speaker 4: But I will say is I'm definitely be playing some
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  Speaker 4: Lamar and Zay Flowers together and you can.
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  Speaker 3: Throw likely in there.
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  Speaker 4: In the classic slate, Skinny Lamar Batman is on a mission.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, he was good.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I forgot go ahead that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you call me a Packer fan, I definitely am,
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  Speaker 4: but nothing like I used to be.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm cheering for my money.
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  Speaker 4: I'll cheer for the Eagles any day today if that
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  Speaker 4: makes me making money. It's an interesting slate though, anytime
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  Speaker 4: the Packers will be on showdown. They got a billion
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  Speaker 4: guys the receiving court. They're very young. It's a similar
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  Speaker 4: situation of yesterday. As far as Pacheco, the backup running
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  Speaker 4: backs for the Chiefs the Packers, Marshaun Lloyd.
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  Speaker 3: And Tucker Craft questionable.
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  Speaker 4: I think Craft plays, Lloyd misses, so another Jacobs will
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  Speaker 4: get a lot of work. And then the preseason guys
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  Speaker 4: aren't running back too hurts.
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  Speaker 3: Your favorite toush push big thing.
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  Speaker 4: Kellen Moore Cowboys OC now the Eagles OC, and I
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  Speaker 4: mentioned that because Kellen Moore is one of the nut
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  Speaker 4: dfs and just fun coaches. They'll run a lot of plays,
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  Speaker 4: They'll throw the ball a lots more concentrated Eagles side,
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  Speaker 4: more open on the packer's side. But yeah, I talk
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  Speaker 4: with football million dollars the first.
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  Speaker 2: The answer to this is they lose. Whether it was
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  Speaker 2: Ay that caught it or likely they were definitely going
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  Speaker 2: for two, which I love that call. You're in Arrowhead,
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  Speaker 2: it's the first game of the season. Just you're already
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  Speaker 2: right there, get the job done. You know, you win
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  Speaker 2: or lose. I love that call. Unfortunately he miss a
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  Speaker 2: and then you obviously likely was that a bounds? But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they lose. Probably that's what ends up happening in those situations.
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  Speaker 2: I've watched a lot of them in the past. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll get right to it. Let's hop in. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: got a big game here to talk about. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: bring over the site just so we can pull it
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  Speaker 2: up with Ship Deemizer. One of the things that came
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  Speaker 2: up with you know, people asking about it as I
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  Speaker 2: go through here and stumble through. It was people talking
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: about when you go to ship demizer, so you just
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  Speaker 2: go to the site you go here NFL. They wanted
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: to learn about how we sort of do the dry run,
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: if you will. Hoop always talks about this, so I
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  Speaker 2: thought I would pull it up just quickly for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: But when it first sets up and everything is reset
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  Speaker 2: to the beginning here, all you have to do. This
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  Speaker 2: is what I do, and this is to get more
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  Speaker 2: optimal to just I'm skipping a step, but I just
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  Speaker 2: want to show you guys. You do want to turn
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  Speaker 2: these because usually they're on medium, because we want some
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  Speaker 2: sort of randomness. You set those down to none so
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  Speaker 2: we can get right after our whole optimal there. And
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: then all I do is I go by projected value
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  Speaker 2: and to two people, and I just instead of changing
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  Speaker 2: projections at all, I just change it too like ninety
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  Speaker 2: nine max exposure and then run it out with one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty lineups just to see. And I might
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  Speaker 2: have messed it up off the top. So let me
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  Speaker 2: see here before I mess this up further, what did
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  Speaker 2: I not change? Hoop, Remind me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. Yeah, let mean, uh, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: weird that it's doing that. And if it'll run like.
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  Speaker 2: That, No, because that was the first part I was
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  Speaker 2: telling you about. So let me just see it for
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  Speaker 2: a second. I just change it to that.
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  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not doing it, so all right, Well, maybe
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  Speaker 2: try on your side just to see what it does
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  Speaker 2: so we can have it up. But I know we
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  Speaker 2: were just updating. You can see the update. There's three
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  Speaker 2: oh nine. It's three thirteen my time, so I know
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  Speaker 2: they've just updated something. But while I'm doing that, maybe
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  Speaker 2: you run it on your side. But we'll bring up
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  Speaker 2: the stone. We'll go through it. But just so you
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: guys know, that is how you do it. It's just
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  Speaker 2: obviously something right now. But the main thing is we'll
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  Speaker 2: bring up the stones so we can look at the
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  Speaker 2: teams that are playing. But when you do run it,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see just what the exposures give you. And it
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  Speaker 2: might be they're updating the projections as we speak. That's
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  Speaker 2: what somebody just said, so all projections aren't in so
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  Speaker 2: I apologize for that. But like I said, either way,
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  Speaker 2: you change the randomness to zero so that you're getting
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  Speaker 2: your actual optimals. You change two settings, like Hoop said,
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  Speaker 2: you can change two players by point zero one. You
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  Speaker 2: can change the exposure to ninety nine max on a
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  Speaker 2: couple guys, because you're probably not going to give that anyway.
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  Speaker 2: The dry run just means he's seeing what does the
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  Speaker 2: what does the optimizer do for somebody who just wants
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: to press the button and run it? And that's what
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: it is. And our girl Kim shout out to Kim
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: always in here helping us out and said that there's
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: people missing because the editor is working on it. So
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  Speaker 2: that's why. But once you make the change, it will work.
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  Speaker 2: So all we're seeing what is the field doing and
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  Speaker 2: then is there something we can find within that that
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  Speaker 2: we can adapt to today. I know when I ran
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: it before the show, I did have it up there already.
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  Speaker 2: It was giving me like fifty six percent of hurts
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  Speaker 2: in the in the Captain slide right, So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that when I when I ran it earlier, it
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of hurts, It was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Jordan love Captain, and then it got sprinkles of a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of different guys, some of those packers wide receivers.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs obviously was up there. He ranks with one
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  Speaker 1: of the better values on the slate. So that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of where not getting much aj Brown if you don't
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  Speaker 1: change stuff, not getting much DeVonta Smith, not getting much
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  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. Is what I noticed in the Captain when
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  Speaker 1: I ran it. At first it was heavy hurts, heavy love,
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  Speaker 1: heavy jacobs and then sprinkles of those packers, wide receivers
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  Speaker 1: and tight ends. And Goddard got a little bit too.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll cover it here too. Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I brought it up on the Stone, so you can
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: see on the site we've got that. Just go NFL
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: the Stone under showdown the Stone. It's there. It's got
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: the positions, the players, the prices, DK and FanDuel separator.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to the FanDuel segment at the end for
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: you guys, but title, I'm gonna give it to you
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: here first. I'm just talking about the game. We didn't
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  Speaker 2: do this yesterday, but just the game as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: What you're seeing, I mean, for the spot everything at
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  Speaker 2: the Phillies only favored by two last I checked, forty
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  Speaker 2: nine and a half point total. By the way, YouTube
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  Speaker 2: chat was the we're over one to start the season again.
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  Speaker 2: They had Ravens and Under and it was Chiefs and over,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll get that later on. That's always a fun segment,
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  Speaker 2: but real quick title. Just your thoughts on how you
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  Speaker 2: see the game tonight, some of the stuff that stands
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  Speaker 2: out to your your overview if you will.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I'm excited two of the better teams in the NFC.
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  Speaker 4: Packers are really young. They have a lot of ways
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  Speaker 4: to beat you. The Eagles. Again, I'm excited for fantasy
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  Speaker 4: purposes because Kellen moorees in town. The game open or
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  Speaker 4: the total open forty eight and a half now forty
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  Speaker 4: nine and a half. I do lean the over if
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  Speaker 4: I had to pick minus one and a half, Philly
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  Speaker 4: opened now sitting around minus two. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be up and down. I think it's gonna be fun football.
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  Speaker 4: Packers have a good defense, but again I think the
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  Speaker 4: Eagles will find a way to move the ball. And
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  Speaker 4: I think the Packers have so many weapons. It's just
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  Speaker 4: who's gonna be the guy for the Packers is gonna
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  Speaker 4: be the tough thing to figure out. Showdown, but it'll
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  Speaker 4: lead to I guess like there's gonna be concentrated ownership
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  Speaker 4: Like Hurts, he's too cheap. Why is aj Brown four
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  Speaker 4: hundred more than Hurts. But there's clear spots. Is the
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  Speaker 4: Stone always does show where you can find leverage spots.
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  Speaker 3: It's clear as day who those are gonna be, and
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  Speaker 3: we'll talk about when we get there.
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  Speaker 4: People are gonna mix in Packers receiver, gonna mix in
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Love way too cheap. And one thing that I noticed,
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  Speaker 4: Packer builds are more heavy than Eagle builds today even
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  Speaker 4: as two point dogs, which is interesting, but it does
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  Speaker 4: make sense because they have more options. It's so concentrate
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  Speaker 4: on the Philly side, and of the options that they're
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  Speaker 4: in the mid five k's, the low six k's, it's
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  Speaker 4: easy to mix them in. And Jordan Love and Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Hurts way too cheap by far. Both quarterbacks are just
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  Speaker 4: like yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And that's actually a great point. I'm glad you
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  Speaker 2: brought that up because it doesn't get talked about enough
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  Speaker 2: in showdown where it doesn't sometimes met like some people
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  Speaker 2: just assume that because the team's favorited, that's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: what the four builds look more like, or people lean
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: that way, but it's oftentimes more in correlation with what
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  Speaker 2: options do we have and feel comfortable with on either
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  Speaker 2: side in this case obviously Green Bay. Like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: there's just a litany of options that you can go through.
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  Speaker 2: There some injury stuff that may lead to even more.
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  Speaker 2: So it just makes more sense to fit that. And
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  Speaker 2: it's also because the most expensive players are on the Eagles,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: so in order to get to those you sort of
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: need those fill ins that project the best and go there.
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  Speaker 2: So again, just another thing you'll find out when you
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: do sort of the dry run that we talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully we can get it up before it does. Jacob
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  Speaker 2: asked a quick question. When you change the max exposure
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  Speaker 2: to ninety nine, it's just saying the most you could
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  Speaker 2: get if anybody was ninety nine percent of your lineups
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  Speaker 2: when it's set up as the default to one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: It's saying, if it did decide that there was just
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  Speaker 2: an extreme value on this slate that it would lock
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  Speaker 2: them in, you would be allowing it to lock in
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  Speaker 2: if you were saying it could get up to one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent. I just want to make sure you know
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  Speaker 2: how that works. Who did you have a grand scheme
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  Speaker 2: over heeaw, So I.
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  Speaker 1: Think you're good to go if you want to try
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  Speaker 1: to run that. While I'm kind of talking about the overview.
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  Speaker 1: I just ran in was able to do so we
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  Speaker 1: were making some changes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are MYSSIC players. I went back and looked
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  Speaker 2: at so there was only ten guys in there, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't okay, it looks like they're populated. Now I'll
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  Speaker 2: mess with it while you talk ahead.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree with the point that you guys
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  Speaker 1: just talked about. It's very clear why the Eagles guys
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  Speaker 1: are getting squeezed a little bit compared to the pack
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  Speaker 1: It's a price tag. If you look at the slight
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  Speaker 1: and say, who are guys that are maybe appropriately priced
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  Speaker 1: or overpriced, it's all Eagles guys. Aj Brown eleven thousand,
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  Speaker 1: that's a big boy price tag. Seg Kwon Barkley in
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  Speaker 1: the mid nines, and then DeVonta Smith he is what
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine k flat, So like, those are the only
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  Speaker 1: three guys that you look at here and say, eh,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of a big boy price tag.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Everyone else on the slate is like underpriced. The quarterbacks
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: are too cheap, all the packers wide receivers are too cheap,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: the tight ends are too cheap, the kickers are always
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: too cheap. So yeah, it's going to be heavy Green
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Bay builds tonight. In terms of the game, man, it
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: pains me as a Lions fan because this team I
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: think could be scary this year. But I think I
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: think the Packers get the job done tonight. I like
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: the Packers to just win this game straight up. So
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: I think they make some big strides this year. I
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: think they're going to be a very tough team. I
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: like the Packer's side to win the game.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting spread. I was very surprised that it was too. Obviously,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. We talked about a plenty on the
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: shows last season about Jordan Love and sort of the
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: guys that he had around him, keeping them healthy. Just
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: many you know set up there that with all these
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: options to go to. But yeah, we'll see how it goes.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Two did surprise me though. So here it is just
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: so people see, I just put two of the guys
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to ninety nine. I changed the build settings, and then
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I ran anybody who was watching SOD on the screen.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I ran the one fifty. They came up very quick,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty lineups in the current build. You
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: go to exposures. Captain. I'm gonna try a secondary step here,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: but we'll start here just because who This is the
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: other thing. I don't know, if you do this, when
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: you do your dry runs like this tells us obviously
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the quarterback heavy in the captain slot, it's wanting to
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: give us a bunch of jailer hurt because we didn't
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: cap it or anything. And in the flex tons of
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, obviously Jalen hurts a little less because we're
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: so heavy on him. He is showing up right now
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: in ninety nine percent of the line. Right we've got
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: him in right across the board, maybe even one hundred
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: because I might not have put him to ninety nine.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: But do you ever adjust it further once you see this,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: just to be like, you know, not many people are
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: gonna run fifty four percent. Jalen hurts and I can
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: show that too.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: So the next step that I kind of follow when
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: looking at the stuff is I go, I look at
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: the captains and see, okay, who am I who's populating
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the most at the captain position? And we see it
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: here it's Jalen Hurts, Jordan Love. I mean, they just
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: messed up the prices on the quarterbacks. I have no
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: idea why they're so cheap. This is clearly going to
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: be the case. They're clearly probably going to be the
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: highest own. And then you get four more guys here,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: so Dallas Goddard is only getting these less than one percent.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: So you get Watson, who shows up is a good value,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Jayden Reid shows up as good value, and then Jacob's
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: also shows up as good value. The next thing I
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: do is I go to flex and see is there
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: any just random guy that I'm getting a ton of, Like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: is there a random two hundred guy that's projected for
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: one that's shown up in fifty percent of lineus? Because
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that would skew things a little bit the first so yeah,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I scrolled down a little.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Bit more that shows out, Yeah, so the first guy.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: But that's not anything all that crazy, So no, I
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: mean this is pretty legitimate. There's nothing there's not like
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: a guy projected for one fantasy point that's shown up
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: in fifty percent lineup. So you can get a gauge
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of what the field's going to do. And it's going
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to be heavy hurts in the captain like you're going
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to be able to do it with ease. This shows
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: us that we can play Jalen Hurts or the field
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: can play Jalen Hurts in the Captain at a very
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: high rate without a bunch of donkey plays in the flex.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: So Hurts is going to be very popular. It's easy
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to get there. What this also tells me is playing
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: some of these packers wide receivers who I do think
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: have big upside in the spot probably is going to
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: be a little overlooked and not low owned. I mean
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: they're all going to get a little bit, but it's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a leverage opportunity I think to play anyone outside of
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and Jacobs. I do think Jacobs will get
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: up there in ownership. People are going to like his
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: price type, like his workload, and rightfully so I think
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: it's probably you know, more like fifteen percent or something
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: for a guy like Jacobs. But this is a legitimate
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: run here, Like it's easy to play Hurts in the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Captain and not have to like play you know, super
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: cheap you know punk plays on the slate.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I love this question. I could answer, but I want
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you too because he just talked about it. But I
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: think this is what why you're looking for this, like
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: what's causing it? So speak on this a little bit
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: maybe that'll help.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So what I would do then, if we went to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: flex and there is a random guy in there, a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: random two hundred dollars guy, what I would do is
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I would cap it like and see what happens. So
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I would just say, I, you know, it's not realist.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not playing a two hundred dollar guy at fifty percent.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put max exposure five in there and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: then rerun it and see what you can do it
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: with it. It's not going to be much here. If
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: we did that on Emmanuel Wilson, just because it's only
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: thirteen percent, we capped it at five, it's not going
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to change this.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: No, I just want to show that example though. If
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: he was the guy that was up here getting forty six,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you just go in here to Wilson and go, okay,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be about twelve. That may go again, these
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: are our initial ownership projections. But even if that's like
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: fifteen percent ownership and you're getting forty six and you're like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: that's just ludicrous. I don't need that. You would just
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: pop this down and say twenty four whatever number you
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: want there as your max exposure, and then see if
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it starts to force in some aj Brown or some DeVante,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: so other guys that should take away from some hurts
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: most likely in that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, like I think this is a very
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: It's the first thing I do, and I think it's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: a very important thing to do for sure, because you
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: get a real feel for what sort of builds are
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: viable and what the field.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Is going to do.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Again, and I do this in most sports too. I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: just run it to see what happens. Make the little
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: change whatever capin at ninety nine, so the teams will run.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: You can get a really good feel for what's going on.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Do it in baseball, I do it in Mma. I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: do it in every sport that I play. Just do
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a dry run, see what the optimizer gives without making
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: many change because I know I'm going to make a
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: lot of changes. I know that I'm going to put
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of input in this before I'm done it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Just it's a good starting point.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's the other thing too, And I'll go
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to your title. Just any final thoughts on this so
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: we can move on to just discuss these captains. But
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I think it just shows the difference of just using
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: an optimizer to use it and how much work we're
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: actually putting in before we even get to what we're doing. Like,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: that's that's still part of the dry run. Look for you,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you're just saying, is something skewing my dry run? So
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: when you're actually trying to find out what the field
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: is doing. And that's why I said. Something that I
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: do that's a little bit different is kind of like
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: what you do there. But I'll show it off here.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: If you guys noticed all I did, I'll go back
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to these in a second. I went to players, I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: changed it to captain, and I capped Hurts at thirty,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: which I'm usually not even that interested in them on
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: these slates, but a lot different. We'll talk more when
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: we get into it here in a second, but just
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: to note it now, I want to see is like,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think people are actually going to run them
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: to sixty percent on this slate, so let me see
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: what happens when I do that. I may still and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I could have done it right from there, but I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: just wanted to show you guys a couple options. But
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: it does bring love up. I could just change him
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to and rerun it, but now I'm getting more Watson
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: more read little bit more Jacobs, I'm still not getting
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: enough of the other guys, so that would be part
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: of building my pool out from there and being like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: for me, there's no way I'm playing only one percent
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: AJ brown on this slate, Like that's nuts to me,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: especially if Hurts is going to get massive ownership up there.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I want the guys that sort of leverage him up
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and can he can be in the flex a bunch
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: more and then give me my AJ Browns, give me
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: my Devonte Smith, give me my Goddards up top. So
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: title anything else you want to add on that, man,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I think it was just a good way to get
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a first look for everybody out there.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: The only another thing is you talked about it in
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: one of your tutorials or maybe it was.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: A love show. That column projected ownership, oh go back everywhere.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Sorry, And projection points, like even if you just use
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: one team a benefit of an optimizer, just say one
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: hundred points right there is the top one. If your
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: team shows like seventy six as your projection points, that's
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: a bad team. At the end of the day, you
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: don't want to be in Showdown. You don't sometimes don't
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: want to be two close to the optimal, because then
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: you know it's going.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: To be duped a lot.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: But you don't want to give up thirty points and
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: play three backups because you have no shot to win there.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: So that's why you try and find the happy meet
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: him if you only play three lineups. Nate says this
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: a lot too. He uses an optimizer. He calls it
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: virtual handbuilding. Look at a decently projected team, decently low owned.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Maybe it leaves a little salary Like those three things
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: right there. Salary projection, ownership projection points are massive, massive, massive.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: You can know nothing about this board at all. Who
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: watches MMA. He knows some not as much as a
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: lot of other people, and he still ships it all.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Some of the best players don't know their sports because
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: it's math and stuff like that. Salary projection, ownership projected
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: points means so so much in all formats, but definitely showdown.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: So I like that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: One other thing I do too, just as you guys know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: is I'll save this one because that is our optimal.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It's at one hundred points point three to five. It's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty two percent ownership. One thing I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: noticed is all these are coming in above one seventy
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and all come in between ninety eight and one hundred.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: So that just shows you the difference between optimal. But
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I'll save to know what I'm up against so that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: when I go back and then make my changes again,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: just going through it all and look at it whether
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you want to set your build setting. You can go
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: down here and say, where's the the percentage at the.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Keep going down I'm looking for. I thought it was.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Down there forty nine eight, forty nine six or whatever,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: like anyway total ship here you can go to this,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I can go to like one sixty nine, right, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: then I'm gonna be less known. I'm gonna have no
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: lineups like that that are one seventy or above. But
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I may still get a bunch of ninety six, ninety seven,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: ninety eight pointers, and then I'll start to see what
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: is different within those, and then I again. Sometimes you
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: can do it like this, like I don't want any
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: silly lineups that are just jamming something to jam it
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: to titles points, So you can look all different ways.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I can see if I go to forty nine to five,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: can I still get really good lineups within that? So
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: there's just a ton you can do to play around
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: with it, and then even from like a dry build,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you can also change what you're peres are guys under
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a certain percentage own. You can get a lot more
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: competitive lineups just doing this. But we learned where we're at, hoop,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: We've got this covered. I know sort of what I
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: talked about was with some of the captains, it wasn't
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: giving anywhere near enough for me. Aj Brown, Josh Jacobs,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Davante Smith, Jayden Reid, guys like that, Dallas Goddard. So
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I just giving you some of mine, but you have
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: other thoughts on captain just outside of Jailen Hurts, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: then let's talk about him because he's gonna be a
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: big talking factor tonight.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just a few comments in the chat and
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hop into that from Danny. So if you're
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a Lions fan and I love the Vikes they play
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in the NFC title game, We're going deal, well, yeah deal,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: But like my team has a legitimate chance. I think
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: your team is probably drawing dead in the Viking, so
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you know, if it does happen, though, I'll meet you there.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Shout out to our guy Andy Hoyman is nice meeting
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you last week and good dude, is a lot of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: fun at the titles wedding. And there was one more comment,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: can't find it as well?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Move on you find you see that, Tambeau.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: The lines have been bad for how many years? Now
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: that they're solid, he's got to pump the chest. Sorry,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: your team sucks, My team's good.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, heck yeah, It's been a long time since I've
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: been able to speak about the Lions with confidence.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: They clean area. I was there for the Golf Life final.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: They literally they're they're so back that they like redid
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the downtown. It's nice and cool set up for everybody. Clean,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: all good. So they're they're making changes, big changes in
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the city, right.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions are good, so the city's cleaned.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Up to clean it up. Time up a little bit
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of captains. Yeah, the quarterbacks
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: are gonna get a lot. We just did that dry run.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: It's easy to play them. They're both you know, Hurts
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: obviously runs a ton, Love will run. They both have weapons.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: They're they're definitely going to get some. I think Jacob's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: probably uh moves up that list too. I think he
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: ends up getting a good chunk of ownership. Because of
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the price tag, I think people just view him as
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a good value play. Outside of that, though, I think
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: things get spread out. I mean, the one that definitely
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: stands out to me is gonna be a J. Brown.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: He's the most expensive guy on the slate. And you
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: know people are gonna start building these teams and they're
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: gonna say, man, if I just move AJ Brown to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Flex over Captain, you know I'm gonna be able to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: get this sort of upgrade. I think jamming in AJ
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Brown in the Captain is a move tonight. Devanta Smith
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: somewhat interesting. There's no way people are gonna play him
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: at a high rate in the Captain. So I'm gonna
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: kind of lean on the Kellen Moore thing where the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Eagles are probably gonna pass it a little bit more.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You can get both the both the main targets. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: think at low ownership in the not low ownership, but
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: lower ownership in the Captain spot. And I think they
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: could maybe get squeezed too. At the end of the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: day a little bit we did that dry run. They
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: didn't show up at all, Like they didn't show up
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: at all. You started to see those Packers wide receivers
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: start to trickle in there a little bit, but aj
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Brown Devanta Smith, like, we're really nowhere to be found.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So I think those are two guys that I'm definitely
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: interested in, the Packers wide receiver guys, Jayden Reid, Dobbs, Watson.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I think Watson's one I'm most interested in. He's got
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the big play up side. You know, price is cheap
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: on him. Very interested there. I think Dallas Goddard is
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: another guy. But again I think outside of Hurts love
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: in Jacobs. I think, you know, Jacobs, I guess isn't
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: really showing what's the what's the projection on Jacobs and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the Captain? Can you scroll up there a little bit?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: What do we have them at captain ownership? I guess
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: is what I'm looking for.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: He's like kind of falls in with what happened last
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: night where I think a lot of these guys do
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: get to that ten percent range. Yeah, it comes down
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit and people are gonna see, I don't
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: want fifty percent. Jalen Hurts up top. Some people will
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: just jam him all in tonight and hope that he's
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the same as last year. But I'm saying overall, I
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: think people, So that sounds about right.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I think he comes out like so we're showing like
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a J. Brown and him the same Like to me,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: like Jacob's has to get more just because of that
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: price tag. That's just how I'm viewing it. But you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Devanta Smith, we're showing six percent. And then those packers guys,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: like I said, Christian Watson is what I'm most interested in.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be opposed to playing really any of
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, they have low price tags. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: think they all have some degree of the upside. But
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the two spots I'm going to be looking to, I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: think to get some leverages. AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go to you in a second. Here title
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: just so people know it on the stone when you're
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: looking at it, this sort of turquoise blue. I'm looking
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: at those guys too. These turquoise guys are the high
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: upside options. They're risky for sure. There's there's some risk
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: involved because you feel good about Hurts, you feel good
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: about AJ Brown, Watson, big play upside, Jacob's love. I mean,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: there's guys that should show up ahead of them, but
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: at the same time I can see. You know, Jayden
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Reid can also pull like the ex worthy line from
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: last night. He can do stuff like that, So I mean,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Jayden Reid can be involved that way. We've seen the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Slim Reaper go out there and get a couple of
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: touchdowns and shut down the rest of that offense pretty
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: quick when it comes to fantasy points. So I just
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: have interest in some of those guys and then got her.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: This is what I said last night. I'm so mad
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: because in the end, I literally came in quote unquote
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: second lost money on the main tournament because it was
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: just a likely to worthy swap. But I said about
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: what I said about likely, I said, not likely, but
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it might be, and if it is, you probably win
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: all the money. And what ended up happening ninety eight
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars to first place with a likely captain, And
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I was sitting there with a second place version of
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the flip because I was on Bateman and Justice Hill
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and other guys instead. But flipping it around today maybe
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to a guy like Dallas Godder, I never hate that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I'm always willing to go back to it. It's not
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: like he's super cheap. He's still eighty seven hundred up top.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: He's just a little bit less than the Devonte Smith,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the Jacobs, and then way less than the quarterback. So
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I douinite think that's a little bit interesting title anything
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: to add there, while I also throw in the chat.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Let's let's see early who the chat has to win
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: this game? It's a two point spread. Who's winning the game?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And title? Any other captains you want to talk about
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: our ways to build with them, and it maybe hit
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: on Hurts a little because he's obviously Jalen Hurts and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: we know what he does in these captain slots.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess I'll start with Hurts.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: You can play like he's one of those quarterbacks where
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: you can play in without any other pass catchers because
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: the tush push he is. I want to say it
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: was minus one ten when you get this exactly right,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: minus one ten to score on the ground is hurt.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: So they get to the one yard line, the two
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: yard line or whatever, and.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: They do this again, Like there's no rules I'm gonna
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: make when playing Jalen Hurts teams. Now, I do prefer
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: playing a wide receiver or two with him at Kenny
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Gainwall because he's gonna get some two minutes stuff like
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: if they are trailing, maybe he's out there a little bit.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna have any rules with Hurts. He
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: can get there in so many ways. I like to
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: even though.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I'm picking the Packers whatever that means.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I like the Philly side way more captain, just because
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: you know where the targets are gonna go.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Like you're saying, aj Brown has to get squeezed.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Avante Smith, He's gonna get some ownership, but nothing crazy
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: at all. Saquon bar minus won fifteen to score the
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: most likely in this game, can catch passes out of
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: the backfield, their new toy that they're gonna want to
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: play with. Those are some of my three favorites right there,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: and Hurts my far. My favorite Packer captain is Josh Jacobs,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: similar Thoughts is yesterday.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: They just he doesn't have competition.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Assuming Marshawn Lloyd is ruled out, and even if he
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: somehow was in, I think they'd really take it cautious
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: with the handy, He's gonna get as much work as
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: he can. He can catch passes out of the batfield
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: as well. The new toy there in Green Bay. So
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: those are my four favorites. For sure, Love is kind
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: of the one. And again, if you're playing one fifty Dobbs, Wicks, Watson, Reed,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: God or all those guys, I'd have somewhere in like
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: the three percent six percent range. But there's no hot
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: takes on that one side for me. You're just there's
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: so many options who gets there? And that's kind I'm
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: gonna throw this back to you, Tambo. Jordan Love captain.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I know, Jordan, shout out, Jordan, You're on the likely captain.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Right in the beginning of the show yesterday, he said,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: or maybe that said, is Love going to be the
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: new Mahomes where there's just so many guys he can
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: throw to that it hurts his like fantasy output production
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: stuff like that, How are you are you gonna play
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: in the captain? If so, are you do you want at
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: least two seven and a half rushing prop isn't great?
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: He has better legs than that, but he does choose
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: to throw. He's the one that I've kind of been
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: going back and forth on do I just go way under?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Do I leave him in that top five group?
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: What do you think I'm still going to play him?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And I think that's I'm a little confused on the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: statement from others on that, because like when somebody spreads
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: it around more like that, it's like that's actually gonna hurt.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You know, if Jayden Reids gets a touchdown and Watson
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: gets a touchdown and Dobbs gets a touchdown, that doesn't
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: that's just one, two, three. They've all got the ball,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: they've all got sixty yards and a touchdown. That's not
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: likely to be up at the top. But now now
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Love has all those passing yards and three touchdowns, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: what if he did motor for forty on the ground
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: or runs one in. So I like him up top
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: and I like him with two with him want to
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: try and maximize that. I'm not gonna force that, but
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: just to note like that one, I would definitely put
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: them up top for that reason. When a quarterback spreads
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: it around more is when I kind of like using
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: them in that position. And I think our guy Hebrew's
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: got a great question here. Shout out Rio says, need
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to know your guys thoughts on if DeVante Captain fading
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Brown and vice versa. I will say this, I'm not
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: setting that rule, but I don't think I'm gonna get
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: very much of it anyway, because realistically there is affordable
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: options down low that could make it work. But one
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: does eat the other's lunch. We do have a big
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: total though. But I'll say this, if I got Hurts
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: up top, I can definitely still play them both, because
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: then that's what the whole setup is. It Hurts running
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: one or two in and then getting all the passing
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: yards some rushing yards on the ground. He finds each
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: of them for a touchdown and again back to the
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: same point of the Green Bay side. These guys can
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: sort of cannibalize each other and eat each other's lunch
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: up so that it's three for forty and nothing, four
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: for forty and one touchdown, so on and so forth,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: where these other guys could both pick up one hundred
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: yards in the touchdown, or one of them has eight
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: catches for a hundred and forty the other guy has
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: three for one oh five in a touchdown like that
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: could all be something that you see happen.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: So that I had that queued up to bring up
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to think it is a good point and a lot
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: of validity to it. I mean, it just seemed like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, the last season it was one or
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the other, like they rarely both got there together, Like
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: one guy would go off, the other guy would just
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: completely bust. And the thing here is like, if you're
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: playing either of those guys in the captain spot, you're
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: running tight on salary. Like if you play if you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: play aj Brown in the captain like, you are sacrificing
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of salary. If you have DeVonta Smith in
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the flex spot, and even vice versa. I mean Devanta
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Smith is nine K thirteen to five in the captain
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: if you put aj Brown in the flex with him,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you are making some big boy sacrifices. So this is
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: a rule I would not be a posed to tonight.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: But to your point, Tamball, I just don't see myself
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: getting a lot of this naturally, like if I'm building
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: my teams right, And.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Also the factor of you're most likely putting those guys
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: with and I'll pull the shout offs because blocking title now,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: but you're most likely getting hurts automatic the flex. You
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: already just buried all that salary. But unless you like
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: some of these punts, and maybe you got to look
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: at some of your builds, right, build someone like even
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: lock that that's the other thing you can do in
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the in the in ship tomizer. The other thing you
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: can do is you could put like DeVante Smith and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the Captain, go put Hurts and aj Brown in the flex.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Just build ten. And this is the virtual handbuild that
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Nads and I talk about. You go build ten. It'll
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: make them. You look at them and if you're like,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: oh my god, those are garbage, like it's not even
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: about being comfortable being uncomfortable. If it just doesn't look
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: good to you and you're not interested, move off it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Then you know. And then if you want to set
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the rule, then I got no problem with it. But
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: if there's a couple versions you like, handbuild them in
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: or save those quick and put them into your pool
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and just roll with that and then say, oh I
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: got that covered. Now I don't need it anymore. So
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: now I can go set that rule up. Or you
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: can make the rule in groups and put it for
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: eighty five percent of your lineups and let it pop
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: into the ones that it does. But realistically, I would
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: rather get them the way I want them then let
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the then let the optimizer do it for me in
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: that case, So just a note on that looks like
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of people on the Packers, So Jordan says,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: of course the chat loves Packers, so the egos will
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: am I right, am?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I right?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just the chat has had bad luck. Maybe
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: we'll call it bad luck. Maybe it's variance. The chat
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: has not been good with it, but the chat is.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing we'll see, we'll see over or under? What
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: is it right now? Guys? Forty nine and a half? Still?
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, after last night, people are gonna love the over give.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Us the total, so packers and over is incoming, I'm guessing,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: but let's hear your total over under forty nine and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: a half. Let's move on, Hoop, do you want to go?
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Like we talked through some of these captains, is there
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: anything else you want to add with Jalen Hurts, I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: guess I'll say one more thing because I've made fun
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: of this guy a ton in the past and just
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: not made fun of him. He's obviously incredible and showed on.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: He makes perfect sense. I just tried to move off
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: of him a lot more. It's in the slate plan already.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna fil the rest of it out later on,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: but just to note, I will be playing which sounds
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: crazy because everybody in the worlds like of course playing
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the others. I actually usually don't play it. So you
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: guys know what, anyone watched this in the past, I
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: try and move off it. I'm going to play him
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: today just because there's way too many options to fit
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: it in. Like you can, like I said, you can
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: build I've seen lineups with Hertz, Davante and Brown and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: been okay with it. So that's why I said the
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Rio's point. Originally, I'm not fully against the rule. I
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: just don't see how it's gonna happen a lot. But
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I can handbuild out even Hurts lineups that make sense
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to me and still get it all.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just a lot of different ways to go with
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: like the Hurts captain teams. I mean, there's so many
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: different options. I mean, you got the AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, Goddard.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: It's just clean because you know where it's going. I mean,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: you know he's going to those dudes for the most part.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: You know, the Saquon Barkley is gonna have a guy
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that he can dump it off to. So I'm with
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you on the on the Hurt stuff. The one interesting
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: name though, again another guy that I think could potentially
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: get squeezed a little bit. I mean he has a
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: decent projection. Is Saquon Barkley ninety four hundred? Like if
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are going to be very popular, like, do
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Saquon get a little bit overlooked? We're showing like nine
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: percent of the captain I wouldn't be surprised as if
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: that ends up being like five or six. Probably six.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I think six is a reasonable project projection in terms
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: of his ownership in the captain spot. Again having built teams,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna do. Uh, you know, what
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: are your guys thoughts on on Saquon.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Kelsey of last night? Right, because yeah talked about I
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: know we mentioned him, but you know when we've already
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: talked tons about AJ Brown, Davante Jalen, We've talked a
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: bunch about Love Jacobs and then our kind of combinations
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: of Reed and Watson and whatnot. So clearly Barkley's got
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: to get somewhere in that line. But we said that
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: a little bit about Henry last night, and then everyone
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: boosted him up to nine or ten percent too, So
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I think they all do fall somewhere.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: In the last that was such a donkey play man,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Like I get it, but like playing Henry captain last
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: night was so stupid, such a donkey move in my opinion.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. This over under is pretty
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: split I see here, so we can uh. I don't
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: know where we'll go on that, but I think more
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: people like the over before we talked about it. But
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: somebody had a good comment here that I want to
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: pull up quickly. Daniels says, really, like in the build
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: of a mid range captain, you do have a lot
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: of options here, right, Watson, Goddard, Wicks read we already
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: talked about some of the other guys that are even
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: a little less than those quarterbacks, a little less than
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: aj Brown Hurts Love, So I'm with you on that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I got no problem with that. I think some of
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: those make a lot of sense and they can all
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: get there. Like we've seen games where Goddard has two
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: touchdowns and that's gonna you know, limit the other guys,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: but you can still afford them now, so you can
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Hurts Goddard and another top dog.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Just to touch on that, though, the only thing that
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: scares me about the mid tier captain builds just looking
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: at the slate and looking how it's priced, it's almost
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: like salary might not matter, So those guys in the
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: mid tier might just have to outscore straight up like
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Hurts and Love or Jacobs. You know, like you're not
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: getting much extra by playing a mid tier captain. It's
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the only concern I have just looking at this before
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I really dive into building teams.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I'll think that in a positive way.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: That means you can leave more money in those builds,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: and then you see like the likely the worthiest.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: There is a like we talked about though, Like we
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: talked about if people play those cheapish or mid tier,
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: they're filling out their salary more times than not. They're
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: not playing those guys to leave money on the table.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: They're playing those guys to get an additional stud in there.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: So Yeah, if you're willing to leave it, I think
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that definitely makes more sense.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're playing in one hundred and thirty thousand
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: mil like that, that's the stuff in those lineups.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I do try and leave it because I mean you
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: saw yesterday like Tam was one D one.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: He even went more down in money the likely and
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: it's a nine hundred thousand dollars.
• 40:31
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• 40:34
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• 40:36
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• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Is that's going to be a majority of built on
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: this slant. I mean majority of people are gonna play
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: both quarterbacks. I mean they're both underpriced. Everyone sees that
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: if you just go in and build teams without changing
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: like we just did, you got what would we get?
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Like one hundred percent Hurts and like seventy percent Jordan
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Love or something crazy like that.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was giving us. So again what
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: people actually take and what they come out at. But yeah,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: it'll be very popular for that. This was the balance build.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: If you go god Her pair them up with Hurts,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I can even get to like Watson aj Brown and
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: still have over seven thousand left. So maybe field size matters.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe titles point of like you know what I mean
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: if you want to leave a bunch more money, But
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: that point Hoop made actually about the original point and
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: being able to leave money tonight may not actually matter.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: That's definitely another reason. Back to my last comment on
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: it about Jalen Hurts at Captain tonight. Another reason I'm
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: interested in him because even with him being as popular
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: as he is, you can get different with him in
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: so many ways tonight and leaving salaries as standard on
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: this stuff. But I'm saying like, you can have good
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: lineups with good plays, with good backups or good options
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: in there that you can do it with. So yeah,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: you can really do a lot of different things tonight,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: and it makes this to me a more fun showdown slate.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Even then last night, I like these ones better when
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: there's so many more outs. And even last night we
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: got a ninety eight K first place prize, So I
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: mean that's pretty solid for what it was, one hundred
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: nine and six thousand people to buy, and shoots up
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: a little bit more tonight. But I will note that
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: before we go back to here and get into the
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: last thing with the positions, we had a ton of
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: people last night. It was actually a comment in discord
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: yesterday saying, you know, you got to have one hundred
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: and fifty lineups, that's the only way. Blah blah blah.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: It's not against them. I know, it's what people think.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: And I showed them the math. I was like, does
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: it feel better? Yeah, technically yes, but in one hundred
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and ninety six thousand person tournament like that. It's not
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: like the math edge is not as massive out there
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: when it comes to that. But in reality, we had
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: two people turned five dollars into twenty seven hundred. We
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: had a sixty two dollars into three K. We had
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: a two point fifty into three K. We had one
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: thousand into ten thousand, like we still had another one
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: was twenty eight x on the slate, twenty three bucks
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: into five k. Like, there was a lot of people
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: last night that were hitting it and that was worthy
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: at captain. In most cases, not many people actually went
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: to likely it was just sort of the backup lineup
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: that got them to the top in some of these
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: smaller field tournaments. That's the difference between the main and
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the smaller field. So just another note there. We want
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: to go to a running back title and just hit up
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: on that real quick. We already talked a little bit
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: about Barkley, you mentioned Jacobs earlier, but anything you have
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to add at the unning back position, yeah, just.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Keep an eye inactives matter today one hundred percent. So
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Marshawn Lloyd a big question mark. I think he misses.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: If he does miss, that's when Emmanuel Wilson becomes even
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: a better play. But if Lloyd is active and they
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: say he's gonna get some work, I mean, he's a
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: rookie that was pretty highly touted. Again, i'd be surprised.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at running back is. I think they're gonna
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: run Saquan Hard for the Eagles. I think they're gonna
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: run Jacob's Hard. I don't have much interest in the
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: secondary ones. It's gonna be, assuming Loyd's out, Emmanuel Wilson,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: and then on the other side it's gonna be Kenny Gainwell,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: and they also got another rookie named will Shipley.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I don't really want to mess with these guys too much.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Down there, Like the kickers are way under price today,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: especially the Packers kicker. The defenses are still down there
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: is Tucker Kraft, assuming he plays Johan Dotson.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I think I'd rather take a shot.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: On most of those guys, But Emmanuel Wilson I definitely
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: like more than Gainwell and Shipley. Assuming Lloyd's out, I'm
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: gonna be playing it decent amount, I think relatives to
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: the field of Wilson, just because at the end of
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: the day we saw Pacheco like no one plays one
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: hundred percent of snaps anymore.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Who was talking about it yesterday.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: But in big time spots, I really am gonna lean
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: on Jacobs being the guy, Barsley being the guy. I
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: don't want too many secondary pieces, but I do think
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Wilson is good.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: If Lloyd's out, Yeah, I was looking the chap brought
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: it up and whop. We had this in PGA this season.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Neil Shipley leads both. He was the top amateur at
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the Masters and the US Open. The guy just came
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: out and crushed a couple other tournaments. He did really well.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: We got will Shipley for the Eagles. I know, and
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: not trying to really focus and get there, but it
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: is kind of funny. Shipley nation bit a bit of
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: a thing like marvelous de sais and shut up to
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Drea back here with us always supporting. We appreciate you.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Daniels brings it up to. That's another point I always make,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: like you used to be allowed to play unlimited lineups
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: saw Hill Sudd back in the day. You know, five
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: hundred plus lineups into a tournament all in if you
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: got the wrong stuff. It doesn't matter if you have
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: five hundred five thousand. If you're not on it. I mean,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: if you don't got it, you don't got it. So
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: it's like that's kind of the setup as well. And
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: why I always say if you play lighter, play tighter,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: just meaning like tighten up your pool, tighten up maybe
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: your captain pool, whatever that is, because you don't want
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: to have twenty max entry. Where the twenty lineups you
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: pick are you know, twenty different captains I'm just exaggerating,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: or you know ten captains that you play two of each, Well,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: you're probably gonna hit the right captain, but eighteen lineups
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: are going immediately in the trash. Why not try and
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: be when you're right? You're right, have a bunch of
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: ways to pepper it, like he says here, unless you
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: smack the core. Twenty max is where I would really
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: hammer in on a tight core and try and keep
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: it that way. So hoop anything you want to add
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: on the running backs, I'm actually really aligned with title.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: It's like Jacobs, Barkley Wilson, and then if other stuff
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: falls in, it falls in. But that's kind of where
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I'm focused at right now.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Got me thinking of my boy saw Hill, one of
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the nicest guys ever in this industry. Man just such
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: a nice dude. Yeah, sad to see him no longer
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: in the industry, but hell of a guy. I remember
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: hanging out with him and what was it in Boston?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: He had just bought Rajon Rondo's penthouse suite at like
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the best nicest apartment complex in downtown Boston. It was
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: a good time. Good dude. I'm with you guys on
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the running back stuff, same mindset, Like it just seems like,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, two running backs in a new spot, like
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: first game, they're gonna ride, these guys, they're gonna ride Saquon,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: They're gonna ride, They're gonna ride Josh Jacobs. I just
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: can't imagine these backup guys getting much work, Like, no
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: matter who it is. I mean, yeah, I love the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: name Shipley, but I don't think he's gonna be shipping
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: us in e cheese tonight, so I probably will just
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: x him out and then, like Emmanuel Wilson, like man,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I just can't imagine these guys being a factor. And
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I mean the main thing is, like we have so
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: many guys in that five four K range five K
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: range where like they're gonna have to outscore those dudes,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: And I just don't see it happening. We have all
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the Packers wide receivers, we have the kickers like I
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: just I just Gottard at fifty eight hundred. I just
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: can't imagine that it's the backup running backs to get
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: the job done tonight. So mostly going to be focused
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: on the main guys Barkley and Jacobs.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to wide receiver. I'll stay with you.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe you can sort of hit on that a little
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: bit of you know, your exposure to running backs in
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: the flex versus filling it up with these wide receivers,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: because we do have a lot of options and obviously
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: the Optimizer as we saw earlier, wanting to give a
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: lot of these wide receivers between Reid, Watts and Dobbs,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: all the guys on the Philly side everything there. So
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: how are you handling wide receiver versus something like running back?
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: And then who are some of the wide receivers that
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: are standing out for you?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like where the Slates won or lost this position?
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Like what you do with these guys, captain flex whatever
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: it may be, Like, this is the this is going
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: to be the deciding factor tonight who wins the Slates
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and who wins the sweat slate and loses the slate.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: So many viable options here, and you almost have a
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: reverse Like on the Philadelphia side, both these guys looked
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: look somewhat overpriced. AJ Brown eleven k, DeVante Smith nine
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: K gonna lead to probably getting squeezed a little bit
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: in Captain and in Flex. Then you look at the
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: packers side of things. They all look cheap, but there's
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: so many of them, so they're gonna get spread out
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit because there's just so many options. You
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: have Reed Dobbs, Watson wis coming back. On the Philadelphia side,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: you have Dotson, who's in play at thirty two hundred.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: It's it's a very interesting situation. What you do at
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: this position, I think wins or loses the slate, whether
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: we're talking Captain or Flex. How you pair these wide
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: receivers up with Love in the Love Captain in these
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Love Captain teams. What you do there's just so many
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: factors with each one of these guys at the position.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: What you do here, like I said, I think determines,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you know, if you wouldn't win or lose the slate.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: It's a big, big decision.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: The Burrow stacks Man. People are going nuts about them
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: still and we're talking about showdown. But it's funny just
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: how much heights there is already for that game on Sunday.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: With all the news that's coming out early, you can tell,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: well it's week one title. I'll get your thoughts. You
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: can break these guys down. You know you last year
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: you did a good job of it, sort of fighting
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: through picking and choosing who these guys were. They had
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of injuries stuff like that. You know, the
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: chat makes a good point another thing about the you know,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: we just talked to Manuel Wilson. But if Lloyd is out,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: maybe it is a guy like Reid who gets some
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: of these snaps to hop in there. We've seen these
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: end a rounds. We've seen him very shifty, very fast,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: lots of different ways, and he's pretty good catching the
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: ball through the air things like that as well. So
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I think he just becomes a bit more interesting to me.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I kind of like Jayden Reid even up at the
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: captain we mentioned earlier. I did hit on that, but
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I'll hit it again. So give us your breakdown on
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: the Packers side and then take us over to the Eagles.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: As well a few questions on Johan Dotson coming over
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: obviously from the Commanders this season. Give us your thoughts
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: at wide receiver.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you if I think it's gonna
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: be won or loss the Packers side. I'm not going
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: to be playing any of Elie Heath, but I will
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: be keeping bow Mountain in my pool at twelve hundred.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Another guy the Packers like a lot, pretty talented, and
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: they just they rotate a ton. So the reason I'm
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: with you, Jayden Reid's my favorite is the He's the
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: one that primarily works out of the slot, though wrote
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: like he won't be in two receiver sets.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: More times than not.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: It'll usually be Dubs and then one of Watson Wicks.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: But almost anytime there's three receivers out there, Reed will
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: be in the slot. Doves is the clear wide receiver
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: one in terms of we'll get the most playing time.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Watson finally healthy this year, He's gonna be the main
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: guy three receiver sets.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: But I mean, I think Wix is so so talented.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: The problem is the snapshare is gonna be so much less,
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: so you're embracing more volatility with Wicks. If I had
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: to rank him, I'm going read one man. Watson and
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Dubs are so tough. I think I'm gonna go Watson too,
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: because I like the upside. I like Watson more in
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: the flex if I had to pick. But again, this
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: is just all. This is why I play twenty plus
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: teams and stuff, so I can't mix and match these guys.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: What I do know is I'm.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Gonna be playing some baw meltin when I know not
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: too many are because there's no like. I'm not playing
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: anybody below bau Melton, kel Can Tara, there's he like,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: there's nobody down there. I like it more than Chipley,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: who's eight hundred dollars more. Then you get Wilson, who's
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: twelve hundred dollars more. So it could be one of
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: those days where bow Mountain catches one pass for twenty
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: yards three DK points. If aj Brown goes off, Takuan
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Jacobs hurts all the top ones we've seen stuff for
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: one catch all the way down does get there. So yeah,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be playing a good amount of them. Jayden
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: reads my favorite out of the slot. But they're gonna
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: be mixing and matching a lot, which is why this
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: late is so hard, and I do think Packers' receivers
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: at least one of.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Them will probably be on the winner.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Which one's the question a lot easier on the Eagles side,
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not playing getting Paris Campbell more than like, they
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: don't even know if he's going to be active. Dotson
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: came over from Washington, so he's wide receiver three. It
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: was Johnny Wilson prior to that. I don't even think
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: if you kept Wilson, I don't know. That's definitely a
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: one to fifty max stuff.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson's got to get in there in the one
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: to fifty for sure. Yeah, has Emmanuel Wilson, Like, oh
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Wilson scored? No, No, that's Johnny.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: It was like, Yeah, the keys was as a keyas
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: last year as the wide receiver three. He had his one,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: like thirty five yard touchdown. The problem is they're just
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: so it hurts usn't use wide receiver threes at all.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: It's all a J.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Brown, All Smith, Saquan out of the backfield, God and
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: his legs.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: But again, look at those prices. Yeah, a couple of
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: catches here's different.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: For sure, We're gonna see a here's Johnny Jiff in
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: the discord later tonight because it could be him. But
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, and I think the chat brought up
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: a good point. They were already on your bow, Melton.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think everybody is this is a member over
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: at Shiba Nation. The members are always digging in and
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Jordan comes back with this one little nugget for the love.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Captain builds love was optimal captain four times last year,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: and three of the four times he had two pass
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: catchers come with him. Makes sense earlier, but that's that's
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: sort of the nuggets that we're trying to dig up,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the tidbits that we like. Johnny Wilson is six, what seven?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: We've done this before. This is we got to get
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: a combine check and go back and find all the
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: details on Johnny Wilson.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: But who ball, Like the hell is Johnny Wilson.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: He's the I think he was like the wife Super
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: four four Wives four. Yeah, I guess he was.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Three before they brought in.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Dowson already exs ass out like no won one of
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: the one of the first guys I eliminated from my.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Playerpool four or five too.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely catching a couple now see the new
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: uh the new who's the tight end last year that
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I called the two touchdown?
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to think who was that?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: You forget what it was?
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: But someone cut his that They just one of the
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: teams just cut his ass. He got someone on the
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the Chargers tight end. What's his name? Yeah, my boy
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Parham the double title.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Someone said it right away, someone said.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: They cut his ass, right, I think he I don't
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: think he's in the league anymore.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: All right, they're gonna get him on the They're gonna
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: bring him over to.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: If I swear if they sign his ass, I'm getting
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: a jersey immediately.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Oh you got me excited now.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson tidbit, the biggest wide receiver drafted in the
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: past ten years.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Awesome, Johnny Wilson.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: All the way to the sixth round. I don't know
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: I'll do that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: He's projected for likeo point five Fantasy points tonight, fire.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Away, will Son Magon. He's gonna sun these cats. He'd
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: be out there and get two touchdowns on him just
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: reaching over top of them and then giving them the
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: too small because he's up over above him. So it
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: could be a possibility here we see Johnny Wilson, Knight,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: any other wide receiver takes from you on the on
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: the reel on the other guys.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Uh, Johnny Wilson, No, man, that's funny.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: No.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like I said, it's a very
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: important position. You know what you do with these guys
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Captain Flax It's uh. I do like that nugget though
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: from from Jordan though about you know, Jordan love having
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: two pass catchers with him while in Captain. That's something
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: definitely take note of.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Jordan loves Jordan. That makes sense. So we'll get in there.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: We'll find some more stuff before the night hits. We'll
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: be in the discord. After this, we'll be getting all
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: the content up on the site, some of it up
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: already and started. But tight End, you want to talk
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: about this one quick title. I know you think Kraft
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: probably plays right. I sort of see it that way. Well,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: the chat was asking earlier what if he's out, But
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be fine. I think he's in.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: There's Musgrave there, and then on the other side we
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: got Goddard and then you and I are a ligne today.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know how our lineups will actually come out
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: when it's all said and done, and our thought process
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: position by position has actually been pretty similar. I've really
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: only got interest in those three and not super interested
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: in Calkatara or anything like that, which I think is
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: pretty standard across the more.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the three tight ends assuming Craft plays, and if
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: he doesn't. Someone mentioned the two, then Simms will be
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: tight end two and you can definitely play him for
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: mid price Ben Simms if somehow Craft is out. But yeah,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: it's Musgrave, it's Craft, it's goddr Man like I don't
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: want any recency buyas coming in from yesterday. But like
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: talking thirty five year old Kelsey, he looked like he
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: lost a step. Mark Andrews definitely lost eight steps Adar.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: It's getting to that point too where he feels like
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: he's lost a step or two. But again, I don't
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: try and use try and look at more of the map.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: The ownership checks out when you play Hurts. It makes sense.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: But I like these packers tight ends, like Musgrave has
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: to get squeezed to an extent because he's in between
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: both kickers. Then you go up a little bit of
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: the kickers. You have Wis, you have Watson. I just
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: think people will try and find those spots and defenses
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: are six hundred cheaper, a thousand cheaper. He's a guy
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: that just can't get too too much ownership. I like
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Kraft too, though, like Kraft for the savings. I almost
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: might even like more. They're gonna mix in both guys.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: They're gonna run some two tight end sets, and both
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: guys are pretty solid after the catch, Like they're not
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: just unathletic dudes that just don't move. Like these guys
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: can catch the ball and turn off field and do something.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: So yeah, all three of those tight ends.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: We're gonna mix them in. I mean, that's gonna be
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: the thing tonight. It's just more we always talk from
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: more of like a roster construction, how we're playing them
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, But in these guys, they're just sort
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: of getting mixed in. It's like just the setup is
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: there's just so many other dudes you talk about liking
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson, talk about especially if Lloyd's though, we like
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: bou Melton as a guy that you could fit in
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: as a punt. So if we get some Johnny Wilson
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: in there, like we just talked about being serious, is
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: that if what if Dotson's not fully up and running ready,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: is it likely? Probably not, But if we can get
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: this guy involved. I don't want to keep using that
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: word and name because of last night there's some PTSD
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: out there, but in general, I'm just saying there is
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: opportunities to use some of these other guys. So these
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: tight ends just are gonna be if they pop in.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: It's more of like a large field set where you're
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: just trying to get unique and get different. Dali Lama
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: asked the good questions of when running a twenty max.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I talked about, you know, committing stronger to a core.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: What I was saying is essentially I'm not necessarily going
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: all in. You could I talk about play lighter, play tighter,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: but what I would do is like seven, seven and six,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: maybe I run three captains and I get enough of them,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: or I run like a ten ten and get two captains.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm not spreading it out to ten
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: captains two times like, That's not what I'm doing in
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: a twenty max. So I'm not going completely just one
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: offing every spot for you know, this kicker in this lineup,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: that kicker and the other whatever. But it is sort
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: of the way I would set it up. We talk
• 59:16
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• 59:45
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• 59:46
  Speaker 2: to the fan duel stuff and end this thing. But
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: last night Kickers twenty five and twenty one, twenty six
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: and twenty one percent, defenses were fourteen and eleven, So
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: these and people still like them. And here you got
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Jake Elliott, I mean, for sure, a guy that people
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: always like. And then you've got Eagles, Packers d and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: then of course go over to the Packers kicker as well.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: So talk to about the kickers in d ning. You
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: got there.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing to add to the tight end conversation.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: If Tucker Craft is out, I think definitely massive boost
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: to Musgrave. I think he becomes one of the better
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: value plays on the Slatey's right there with all those
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: packers wide receivers. I mean, yeah they have sims, but
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I just can't imagine that he's gonna have a big,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: big role. So if Craft is for some reason ruled out,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I means must Grave gets a massive boost. You know,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: same thing. This is going to be the year that
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: people get punished for, you know, playing these defenses. I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: feel last year was the year of the defense, and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: everyone was super excited and we saw some slaves for
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: these defenses were like forty fifty percent ownership was captain
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: check last night. But you know, I do the same
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: thing with the defenses. It's like I just put the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: moderate projection in there. If I get him, I get them. Like,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not actively trying to get him in to my lineup.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: So so have the same approach to night then kickers.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I never need to talk about kickers.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I'm always on the kickers. Like I think they're too
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: cheap for showdown.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: How about that best kicker in the world places for
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: the Packers right now? Because by the way, Justin Tucker,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: he's no more Hall of Famer nothing. He missed a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: huge opportunity last night, so he's done. And I forgot
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: about this too. I barely pay Maybe a title would
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: have been on top of it in the best ball streets,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: but I forgot. Yeah, you're not picking his ass up.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying in general, paying attention to it because
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's, you know, something I just totally missed.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: And gave him a price. He's I figured he'd be
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: twenty five hundred. He's thirty two hundred on the main slate.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: How is he not the men?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Then the Hoopster calls it right, that's what we're still
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: waiting on. Main slight showing here is going to be
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: incredible because there's gonna be some loser that you're on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: that all of a sudden has their career game just
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: because you like them, and everything always goes hoops way,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: So to.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Find out, there's only one way to find out.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: We had a comment here earlier and this reminded me
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: just of what hoop was talking about when he mentioned
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Musgrave and you know, just part of it. We talked
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: about all the stuff. If there's good stuff to talk about,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: we'll stick around and keep the show going. But I mean,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: this is good stuff. This is hindsight and and you know,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: results oriented for sure to go back and say, oh yeah,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: you know Andrews. Of course he was going to have
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: to block because that O line is shit and all that.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: But realistically that is something that I think a lot
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: of us, myself included, overlooked last night. He was out
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: there a ton, but he was blocking a ton, and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: because there's a new O line, just didn't think of
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: that fully. That could have led us a little bit
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: more to likely we were already on them some and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: all that I'm just saying, like that could have made
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: the thought.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Was like in the slot and stuff there, but like
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: he was there like number one wide receiver, like it
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: was the Flowers and him, Like he was not playing
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: like the tight end position if i'd you know, from
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: what I saw, I mean he was he was a
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: wide receiver.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Right, So that's what I'm saying. So again it sounds
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: like after the fact we're just bringing that up. But
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: most cases, again I'm I'm guilty of it as well.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: We're making likely and unlikely jokes instead of thinking about
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: the actual possibilities of some of the situational stuff. And
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I thought you brought up a good one there. Hoop
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: is that if Tucker crafts out, what happens is people
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: look to a guy like Sims right away. Oh, he
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: freeze up the whole state. We break it down. All
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, he gets over owned. Yet Musgrave not
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: only technically has the position to himself because he's the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: only guy there with no Craft And again I'm expecting
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Kraft to be in These are good concepts around the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Showdown game as a whole, things that we focus on,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: not just the plays for tonight. I would say this
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: is it's a twofold situation who because all of a
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: sudden Sims probably gets over owned, you get Musgrave who
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: kind of opens it up to himself. But then it's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: the key that you mentioned everyone that's fitting in the reads,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: the Watson's, the dubs, the Wicks plays. He's right there
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: in the same office, in the same offense, and he
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: actually does pick you up a little bit of money,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: whether you need it or don't. He could be the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: guy like title and I always talk about where you
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: just say, you know what, I have Dobs in this one,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: or I have wis. I'm just dropping them the musk
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Grave and leaving the money. It's just and then Musgrave
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: gets that touchdown in the end zone instead of Wix
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: or something, and all of a sudden that makes it
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: worth it, and that's what ships you all the money
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: at the end of the night. So I just think
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: little things like that are important to take into consideration,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: as little tidbits that you're finding out as the season
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: goes along. That's what makes the difference. It only takes
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: one big win. One big night could have in ninety
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: eight thousand off the hop last night, and tonight could
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: very well be the same with how diverse the teams
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: are here tonight with many options on this slate title.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Anything to add on kicker defense or anything else you
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: want to talk about before we go to the fan
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: duel segment.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Now, I think owner projected ownership looks pretty standard where
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have strong I'm kind of like hooping
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: the sense of I always like kickers, but defenses I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: think are in a lot of games like this, higher
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: total games are always so low owned. It's just so
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: easy for me to plug them in and chalk your
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: lineups to get different. So I'll be doing the same
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: and you just hope for a Puttnertz are in one
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: big pick six stuff like that, that the end up there.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: So they have similar stuff, is who? I just like
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: the defenses a little more.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think maybe you know just rules wise
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: stuff because you talk about it often. Title people talk
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: to me all the time about this. Do you do
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: anything with the defenses and the kickers to split them
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: up on a slate with a total like forty nine
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: and a half or do you do it how you
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: see the game script? Is there anything you do to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: split those guys up when it comes down to it.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: I don't, but I pretty much will never have like
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: three of the.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Four in lineup, so that group if you wanted.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if I would make a group, it'd be that.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: So you can do that in shyp to mizer you
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: could just put all four of those together and then
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: in the flex because that's you know, if you're you're
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: probably not playing them a captain. You maybe getting some
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: of the kickers at captain, but just in general, your
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: flex play. You could set it up to one hundred
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: percent of your lineups to have zero to two so
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: that you'd get lineups without them. But even when they
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: when you are getting them, it's at most too And
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: then obviously you could spread them apart, and you want to,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: but you know, sometimes people have the defense from one side,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the kicker from the other. There's a lot more you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: can do, And like Hoop talked about last night, sometimes
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: you can rule yourself out in showdown where you just
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: put too many rules. So little things like that, I
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: always like to ask, just in case Hoop anything else,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: if not, talk to us a little bit about FanDuel tonight,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: because man, Jalen hurts and it just always seems like,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you can see it there. Third price,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: he is priced at seventeen thousand over on FanDuel. We've
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: got it up over here. So AJ Brown three thousand
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: dollars less. Isn't that funny too? Like on DraftKings, AJ
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Brown is more like, look at the miss price on
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Hurts tonight, and then over on FanDuel it's completely covered
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: three thousand dollars between the two of them.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's still gonna be popular. Quarterbacks are always
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: popular over on FanDuel. Seventeen k, love Is fifteen to five.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Other prices that stand out, I would say the running
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: backs are priced appropriately Josh Jacobs twelve five, say Quon
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Barkley thirteen to five. We talked about aj Brown at fourteen,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith twelve. I think those are all just legit
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: admit price tags and kind of where they should be.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Both kickers are eight k, very cheap. We've seen kickers
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: as high as ninety five hundred on FanDuel, so maybe
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: even like ten k. So eight k for both kickers,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I would say that's definitely on the cheap side. Wis
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: is basically a full punt. He's sixty five hundred. His
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: price is definitely higher on DraftKings relatively, so Wicks at
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: sixty five kind of stands out as a cheap play
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: craft if he plays six k. You know, I liked.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I liked the cheap tight end plays probably a little
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: bit more on FanDuel because if they catch a touchdown,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: it's just worth so much more on FanDuel versus DraftKings.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the couple things that definitely stand out would
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: be the kickers all the way down at eight thousand,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: and then you know the flip from DraftKings Hurts being
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: the most expensive and A J. Brown down to fourteen k.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look at the the Musgrave versus Goddard price too,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: only five hundred bucks in the difference, Like, yeah, that's
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: the pricing there is just way different than over run DraftKings.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: And that's you know, another interesting point for tonight if
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: you are playing over there. I think that's something to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: keep in mind. Title anything you had to add, just
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: from a FanDuel perspective.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the two leverage plays are guys that have to
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: be squeezed, Like you mentioned Musgrave at nine k.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: In between Dobbs is nine k, Goddards nine to five.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: So that's a way to get different.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Christian Watson's the highest price Packers wide receiver at eleven k,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: which is way different than DraftKings Rita his ten K.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: DeVante Smith is twelve K. So Devant is only one
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: k more.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: And Watson is a guy, and we know he has
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: big time upside, big play guy. If he goes four
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: for one hundred and two or something like, he has
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: that kind of upside that just can't be played because
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: of his price.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: So other than that, yet kickers are way too cheap.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got nothing to add, so I think we're
• 1:08:54
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• 1:08:57
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  Speaker 1: if you're still grinding MLB, they're starting up in fifteen
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  Speaker 1: minutes Naid's and Ham so head on over there listen
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  Speaker 1: to that one. But excited for this slight, Very excited
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  Speaker 1: for the main slight. So the plan is nine to
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  Speaker 1: forty five Eastern. The three of us will be breaking
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  Speaker 1: down the main Slight show. It was a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a show last year. We had a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: I think the people that tuned in found it to
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  Speaker 1: be very valuable and helpful. So make sure to join
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  Speaker 1: us Sunday morning right here, nine forty five Eastern.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, title any final thoughts with you, my friend before
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  Speaker 2: we get at it. We'll be back for Sunday. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, the Cash Show, people can go back
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  Speaker 2: and check it out. We're gonna have other shows for
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  Speaker 2: college football all that across the weekend, the Sunday Night
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  Speaker 2: Football Showdown show with Ham and Nads that they put
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  Speaker 2: out as recorded. But title any final thoughts from you
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  Speaker 2: before we get out of here?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is what every DFS player sports fan love.
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  Speaker 4: Is one of the best weekends we had football yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: a million tonight, MMA tomorrow, college football tomorrow Sunday, and
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  Speaker 4: then hey, you also got Monday Showdown too, So plenty
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  Speaker 4: of cheeze to be made this weekend. Good luck to
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  Speaker 4: you Tambo and MMA this weekend. Good luck to Hoop
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  Speaker 4: as well. Good luck to us and everybody else watching
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  Speaker 4: in football. Let's hopefully run it back yesterday. It was
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  Speaker 4: awesome to see those screenshots but enjoy it. We always summer,
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  Speaker 4: nothing going on, we always dream for these times, so
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  Speaker 4: enjoy it for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Luckily we're just getting started, so we're excited. Right Like
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  Speaker 2: you said, it's gonna be another good one. I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna play a different outro, but I got to hear
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  Speaker 2: that one from last night again and stick around. It's
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