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WHAT THE HAL?? PODCAST 2.0 – EPISODE 14: Audubon Beyond Birds · What the Hal?? 2.0

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  Birdwatchers,
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  Right.
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  But
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  it's
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  so
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  much
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  more.
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  I'm
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  Hal
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  Eisner
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  with
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  Hunter
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  Lowry
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  and
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  Elsa
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  Ramon,
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  and
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  this
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  is
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  what
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  the
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  hell.
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  Smart,
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  fresh,
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  and
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  uplifting.
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  We've
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  got
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  the
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  stories
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  that
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  make
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  say,
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  what
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  the
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  hell.
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  The
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  San
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  Fernando
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  Valley
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  chapter
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  of
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  the
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  Audubon
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  Society
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  Regional
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  was
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  named
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  Nonprofit
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  of
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  the
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  Year
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  by
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  the
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  California
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  association
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  of
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  Nonprofits.
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  That's
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  some
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  valuable
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  recognition
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  for
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  a
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  group
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  that's
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  often
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  overlooked,
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  but
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  you're
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  having
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  a
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  big
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  impact
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  with
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  fire
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  prevention.
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  And
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  so
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  much
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  more.
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  There's
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  the
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  so
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  much
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  more.
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  We've
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  invited
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  Kathy
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  Barton,
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  president
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  of
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  the
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  San
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  Fernando
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  Valley
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  chapter
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  of
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  the
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  Audubon
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  Society,
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  to
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  fill
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  us
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  in
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  on
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  what
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  the
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  Audubon
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  Society
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  is
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  all
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  about
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  and
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  what
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  that
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  so
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  much
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  more
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  is.
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  And
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  we
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  already
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  said
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  it.
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  Hal
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  said
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  it.
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  It's
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  so
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  much
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  more
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  than
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  birds.
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  Right.
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  Although
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  that
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  is
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  the
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  first
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  thing
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  that
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  comes
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  to
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  mind,
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  to
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  be
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  honest.
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  Yes,
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  indeed.
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  So
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  much
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  more
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  than
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  birds.
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  In
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  what
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  ways?
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  Nothing
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  wrong
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  with
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  birds,
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  though,
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  right?
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  Yeah,
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  right.
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  In
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  what
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  ways
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  is
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  it
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  so
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  much
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  more
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  than
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  birds?
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  Well,
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  we
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  think
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  of
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  ourselves
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  and
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  the
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  Audubon
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  Society
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  as
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  a
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  whole
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  as
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  a.
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  Obviously,
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  we're
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  here
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  to
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  advocate
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  for
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  birds
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  and
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  to
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  further
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  bird
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  conservation,
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  but
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  we're
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  also
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  an
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  educational
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  institution,
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  a
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  conservation
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  institution,
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  from,
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  you
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  know,
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  conserving,
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  helping
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  support
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  our
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  local
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  parks
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  to
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  actually.
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  Facilitating
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  purchase
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  of
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  sensitive
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  lands
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  for
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  their
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  conservation,
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  where
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  we've
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  got
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  our
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  fingers
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  in
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  lots
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  of.
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  Lots
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  of
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  different
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  pies.
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  Kathy
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  Barton
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  is
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  the.
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  Well,
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  she's
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  the
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  head
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  of
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  the
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  chapter,
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  president
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  of
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  the
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  San
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  Fernando
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  Valley
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  unit.
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  And
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  I
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  have
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  to
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  apologize.
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  Birds
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  make
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  noise
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  up
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  there.
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  My
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  dog
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  is
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  making
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  noise
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  down
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  here.
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  So,
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  you
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  know,
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  we've
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  got
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  critters
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  every
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  which
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  way.
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  So
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  please
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  forgive
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  me
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  for
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  Lila
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  speaking
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  up.
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  But,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  think
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  there
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  are
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  things
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  that
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  I
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  find
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  curious
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  about
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  birds.
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  First
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  of
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  all,
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  share
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  a
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  little
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  story,
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  and
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  I'll
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  do
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  it
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  hummingbirds,
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  because
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  I
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  have
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  a
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  particular
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  love
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  of
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  hummingbirds.
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  But
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  there's
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  something
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  that
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  I
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  understand
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  is
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  very
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  significant
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  about
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  what
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  birds
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  mean
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  to
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  our
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  environment.
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  And
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  I
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  wonder
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  if
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  you
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  could
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  punch
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  that
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  out
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  for
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  us
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  right
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  off
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  the
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  top,
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  because,
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  you
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  know,
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  why
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  do
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  we
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  care
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  about
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  birds?
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  Because
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  it
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  affects
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  where
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  we
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  breathe,
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  where
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  we
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  live,
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  our
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  universe.
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  Sure.
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  You
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  may
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  have
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  heard
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  the
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  expression
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  of
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  the
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  canary
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  in
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  the
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  coal
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  mine,
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  and
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  I
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  think
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  there's
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  a
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  reason
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  for
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  that.
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  The
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  old
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  miners
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  used
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  to
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  take
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  canaries
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  down
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  into
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  the
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  coal
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  mines
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  with
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  them
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  because
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  the
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  birds
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  were
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  more
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  sensitive
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  to
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  the
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  buildup
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  of
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  carbon
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  monoxide.
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  So
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  when
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  the
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  canary
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  fell
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  off
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  its
• 3:11
  perch,
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  they
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  realized,
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  oh,
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  my
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  Goodness,
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  we've
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  got
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  something
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  to
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  worry
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  about
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  here.
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  And
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  we're
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  able
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  to
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  get
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  themselves
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  out
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  safely.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  one
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  way
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  that
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  birds
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  help
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  us
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  is
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  they
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  are
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  more
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  sensitive
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  to
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  changes
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  in
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  the
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  environment.
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  We're
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  already
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  seeing
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  differences
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  in
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  the
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  timing
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  and
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  the
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  areas
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  where
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  birds
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  are
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  migrating
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  because
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  of
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  the
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  effects
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  of
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  climate
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  change.
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  They
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  are
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  exquisitely
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  sensitive
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  to
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  pollution
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  in
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  our
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  environment,
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  to
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  pesticides,
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  to.
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  I
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  mean,
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  remember
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  it
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  was
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  the,
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  if
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  you
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  recall,
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  it
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  was
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  the
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  peregrine
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  falcon
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  and
• 3:56
  the
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  brown
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  pelicans
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  having
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  difficulties
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  with
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  their
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  eggs
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  that
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  alerted
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  us
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  to
• 4:02
  the
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  dangers
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  of
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  ddt.
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  So,
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  you
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  know,
• 4:07
  in
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  a,
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  in
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  a
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  very
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  kind
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  of
• 4:08
  person
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  centered,
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  a
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  human
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  centered
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  way,
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  they're
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  important
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  to
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  us
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  also
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  because
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  just
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  they're
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  beautiful
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  and
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  they're
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  a
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  part,
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  an
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  intricate,
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  integral
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  part
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  of
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  the
• 4:24
  environment.
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  You
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  know,
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  they
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  eat
• 4:26
  insects
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  that
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  they
• 4:28
  help
• 4:28
  protect
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  our
• 4:29
  crops.
• 4:30
  They,
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  you
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  know,
• 4:32
  contribute
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  to
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  the
• 4:34
  quality
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  of
• 4:34
  life
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  in
• 4:35
  so
• 4:35
  many
• 4:35
  ways.
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  And
• 4:36
  of
• 4:36
  course,
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  we
• 4:37
  just
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  enjoy
• 4:38
  learning
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  about
• 4:38
  them
• 4:39
  and
• 4:39
  watching
• 4:39
  them.
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  Well,
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  work
• 4:41
  out
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  San
• 4:42
  Fernando
• 4:43
  Valley
• 4:43
  and
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  San
• 4:44
  Fernando
• 4:45
  Valley,
• 4:45
  especially
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  Sepulveda
• 4:47
  Basin
• 4:47
  area,
• 4:48
  has
• 4:49
  a
• 4:49
  valuable
• 4:50
  biological
• 4:51
  diversity.
• 4:53
  And
• 4:53
  how
• 4:54
  is
• 4:54
  that
• 4:54
  reflected
• 4:55
  in
• 4:56
  your
• 4:56
  work?
• 4:57
  You
• 4:57
  guys
• 4:57
  work
• 4:57
  with
• 4:57
  more
• 4:58
  than
• 4:58
  birds,
• 4:58
  right?
• 4:59
  Absolutely.
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  The
• 5:02
  Sepulveda
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  Basin
• 5:03
  is
• 5:03
  kind
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  our
• 5:04
  baby.
• 5:05
  Our
• 5:06
  chapter
• 5:06
  was
• 5:07
  instrumental
• 5:08
  in
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  designing
• 5:10
  and
• 5:11
  creating
• 5:12
  the
• 5:13
  Sepulveda
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  Basin
• 5:14
  Wildlife
• 5:15
  Reserve,
• 5:16
  which
• 5:17
  is
• 5:17
  a
• 5:18
  couple
• 5:18
  hundred
• 5:19
  acres
• 5:19
  with
• 5:21
  a
• 5:21
  lake
• 5:22
  in
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  middle
• 5:24
  that
• 5:25
  is
• 5:25
  fed
• 5:26
  by
• 5:27
  outflow
• 5:28
  from
• 5:28
  the
• 5:30
  Tillman
• 5:31
  Water
• 5:32
  treatment
• 5:32
  plant
• 5:33
  that's
• 5:33
  located
• 5:34
  in
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  basin.
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  And
• 5:36
  this
• 5:36
  wildlife
• 5:37
  area
• 5:38
  attracts
• 5:39
  several
• 5:39
  hundred
• 5:40
  different
• 5:40
  species
• 5:40
  of
• 5:41
  birds
• 5:42
  because
• 5:43
  we
• 5:43
  are
• 5:43
  on
• 5:43
  a
• 5:43
  migratory
• 5:44
  flyway
• 5:45
  and
• 5:47
  it
• 5:47
  acts
• 5:48
  kind
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  like
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  truck
• 5:49
  stop
• 5:49
  for
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  birds
• 5:50
  on
• 5:51
  their
• 5:51
  way
• 5:52
  north
• 5:52
  and
• 5:53
  south.
• 5:54
  They're
• 5:54
  flying
• 5:55
  over
• 5:55
  this
• 5:56
  giant
• 5:56
  urban
• 5:57
  area
• 5:57
  that
• 5:58
  doesn't
• 5:58
  look
• 5:58
  very
• 5:59
  inviting
• 5:59
  for
• 5:59
  birds.
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  And
• 6:00
  then
• 6:00
  all
• 6:00
  of
• 6:00
  a
• 6:00
  sudden
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  they
• 6:01
  see
• 6:02
  several
• 6:03
  hundred
• 6:03
  acres
• 6:03
  of
• 6:04
  trees
• 6:04
  and
• 6:04
  grass
• 6:05
  and
• 6:05
  most
• 6:06
  importantly
• 6:06
  water,
• 6:07
  and
• 6:08
  they
• 6:08
  drop
• 6:09
  down,
• 6:09
  they
• 6:09
  may
• 6:10
  spend
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  night,
• 6:11
  they
• 6:11
  may
• 6:11
  spend
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  couple
• 6:12
  of
• 6:12
  days
• 6:12
  feeding,
• 6:15
  resting,
• 6:16
  drinking
• 6:17
  water,
• 6:17
  taking
• 6:18
  care
• 6:18
  of
• 6:18
  their
• 6:18
  feathers
• 6:19
  and
• 6:19
  then
• 6:19
  they
• 6:20
  continue
• 6:20
  on.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:21
  plus
• 6:21
  we
• 6:22
  have
• 6:23
  many,
• 6:24
  many
• 6:24
  species
• 6:24
  that
• 6:25
  are
• 6:25
  resident
• 6:25
  there
• 6:26
  year
• 6:26
  round.
• 6:28
  We
• 6:28
  use.
• 6:30
  One
• 6:30
  of
• 6:30
  the
• 6:31
  central
• 6:32
  parts
• 6:32
  of
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  mission
• 6:34
  of
• 6:34
  our
• 6:34
  mission
• 6:34
  statement
• 6:35
  is
• 6:35
  environmental
• 6:36
  education.
• 6:38
  And
• 6:38
  because
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  basin
• 6:41
  is
• 6:42
  in
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  middle
• 6:43
  of
• 6:43
  a
• 6:43
  very
• 6:44
  park
• 6:44
  poor
• 6:45
  area,
• 6:47
  we
• 6:47
  can
• 6:48
  use
• 6:48
  the
• 6:49
  wildlife
• 6:49
  area
• 6:50
  as
• 6:51
  a
• 6:51
  central
• 6:51
  part
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  our
• 6:53
  environmental
• 6:54
  education
• 6:55
  program.
• 6:56
  We
• 6:56
  sponsor
• 6:59
  a
• 6:59
  program
• 6:59
  called
• 7:00
  the
• 7:01
  Sepulveda
• 7:02
  Basin
• 7:02
  Environmental
• 7:02
  Education
• 7:03
  Program
• 7:04
  which
• 7:05
  reaches
• 7:07
  Several
• 7:08
  thousand
• 7:09
  grade
• 7:10
  5
• 7:11
  elementary
• 7:11
  school
• 7:12
  students
• 7:12
  from
• 7:13
  mostly
• 7:14
  title
• 7:14
  1
• 7:14
  schools,
• 7:15
  so
• 7:16
  economically
• 7:16
  disadvantaged
• 7:17
  schools.
• 7:17
  And
• 7:18
  the
• 7:19
  program
• 7:19
  brings
• 7:20
  them
• 7:20
  out
• 7:20
  to
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  basin,
• 7:21
  gives
• 7:21
  them
• 7:22
  binoculars
• 7:23
  to
• 7:23
  use
• 7:23
  for
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  day,
• 7:25
  they
• 7:25
  have
• 7:25
  access
• 7:26
  to
• 7:27
  Microscopes
• 7:28
  to
• 7:29
  look
• 7:29
  at
• 7:29
  pond
• 7:30
  life.
• 7:31
  We
• 7:31
  take
• 7:31
  them
• 7:32
  for
• 7:32
  a
• 7:32
  bird
• 7:32
  walk,
• 7:33
  we
• 7:33
  talk
• 7:34
  to
• 7:34
  them
• 7:34
  about
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  importance
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  conserving
• 7:38
  resources,
• 7:39
  we
• 7:39
  talk
• 7:39
  about
• 7:40
  the
• 7:40
  water
• 7:40
  cycle.
• 7:41
  And
• 7:41
  for
• 7:42
  many
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  these
• 7:42
  kids,
• 7:43
  it's
• 7:43
  their
• 7:43
  first
• 7:44
  time
• 7:44
  in
• 7:44
  a
• 7:45
  wildlife
• 7:46
  reserve.
• 7:46
  It's
• 7:47
  their
• 7:47
  first
• 7:47
  time
• 7:48
  handling
• 7:49
  binoculars
• 7:50
  or
• 7:50
  looking
• 7:50
  through
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  scientific
• 7:51
  instrument
• 7:52
  like
• 7:52
  a
• 7:52
  microscope.
• 7:54
  And
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  children
• 7:56
  just
• 7:56
  love
• 7:56
  it.
• 7:58
  Well,
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  bet
• 7:59
  it
• 7:59
  gives
• 7:59
  them
• 8:00
  a
• 8:00
  chance
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  kind
• 8:00
  of,
• 8:00
  for
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  day,
• 8:01
  be
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  little
• 8:02
  scientist,
• 8:03
  environmentalist
• 8:04
  in
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  way.
• 8:05
  I
• 8:05
  mean,
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  reminds
• 8:07
  me
• 8:07
  of
• 8:08
  kind
• 8:09
  of
• 8:09
  how
• 8:10
  we
• 8:10
  learn
• 8:11
  things
• 8:11
  have
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  ripple
• 8:12
  effect.
• 8:13
  When
• 8:13
  you
• 8:13
  take
• 8:13
  the
• 8:14
  kids
• 8:14
  out
• 8:14
  there
• 8:14
  and
• 8:15
  they
• 8:16
  get
• 8:16
  a
• 8:16
  chance
• 8:16
  to
• 8:17
  see
• 8:17
  this
• 8:18
  world
• 8:18
  and
• 8:18
  how
• 8:18
  it
• 8:19
  affects
• 8:19
  everything
• 8:20
  around
• 8:20
  us,
• 8:20
  you
• 8:21
  either
• 8:21
  inspire
• 8:21
  them
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  maybe
• 8:22
  pursue
• 8:23
  a
• 8:23
  career
• 8:24
  in
• 8:24
  this
• 8:24
  or
• 8:25
  even
• 8:25
  just
• 8:27
  spark
• 8:27
  awareness.
• 8:28
  But
• 8:28
  it
• 8:28
  reminds
• 8:29
  me
• 8:29
  of,
• 8:30
  you
• 8:30
  know,
• 8:30
  recently
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  read
• 8:31
  a
• 8:31
  story
• 8:31
  about
• 8:32
  how
• 8:32
  wolves
• 8:32
  being
• 8:33
  reintroduced
• 8:33
  into
• 8:34
  some
• 8:34
  areas
• 8:34
  are
• 8:36
  having
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  positive
• 8:37
  impact
• 8:37
  on
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  environment
• 8:39
  arounding
• 8:39
  them
• 8:39
  because
• 8:40
  they
• 8:40
  are
• 8:41
  effectively
• 8:41
  controlling
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  deer
• 8:43
  population
• 8:43
  naturally,
• 8:44
  which
• 8:45
  protects
• 8:45
  the
• 8:46
  water,
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  so
• 8:47
  on
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  so
• 8:47
  on
• 8:47
  and
• 8:48
  so
• 8:48
  on.
• 8:48
  And
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  think,
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  know,
• 8:51
  we've
• 8:51
  seen
• 8:52
  that
• 8:52
  lately
• 8:53
  with
• 8:53
  bees,
• 8:54
  how
• 8:54
  that's
• 8:54
  been
• 8:55
  brought
• 8:55
  to
• 8:56
  our
• 8:56
  attention,
• 8:57
  how
• 8:57
  bees
• 8:57
  have
• 8:57
  a
• 8:58
  ripple
• 8:58
  effect
• 8:58
  and
• 8:58
  ultimately
• 9:00
  are
• 9:00
  crucial
• 9:01
  for
• 9:01
  human
• 9:01
  existence.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:03
  I
• 9:04
  feel
• 9:04
  like
• 9:04
  we're
• 9:04
  seeing
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  same
• 9:05
  thing
• 9:05
  with
• 9:06
  birds.
• 9:07
  People
• 9:07
  may
• 9:08
  not
• 9:08
  give
• 9:08
  them
• 9:09
  much
• 9:09
  of
• 9:09
  a
• 9:09
  thought
• 9:09
  other
• 9:10
  than,
• 9:10
  oh,
• 9:10
  what
• 9:10
  a
• 9:10
  pretty
• 9:11
  bird
• 9:11
  flying
• 9:11
  in
• 9:11
  the
• 9:12
  sky
• 9:12
  or
• 9:13
  oh,
• 9:13
  that
• 9:13
  was
• 9:13
  neat,
• 9:14
  or
• 9:15
  they
• 9:15
  pooped
• 9:16
  on
• 9:16
  my
• 9:16
  car,
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  don't
• 9:16
  know.
• 9:17
  But
• 9:18
  in
• 9:19
  any,
• 9:19
  in
• 9:19
  any
• 9:19
  case,
• 9:20
  they
• 9:21
  seem
• 9:21
  to
• 9:21
  have
• 9:21
  the
• 9:22
  same
• 9:22
  ripple
• 9:23
  effect,
• 9:23
  do
• 9:24
  they
• 9:24
  not?
• 9:26
  Absolutely.
• 9:27
  As
• 9:27
  I
• 9:28
  mentioned
• 9:28
  before,
• 9:30
  birds
• 9:31
  play
• 9:31
  a
• 9:32
  very
• 9:32
  big
• 9:32
  role
• 9:33
  in
• 9:34
  our
• 9:34
  ecosystem.
• 9:35
  And
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  like
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  think
• 9:39
  that
• 9:39
  by
• 9:40
  bringing
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  kids
• 9:41
  out
• 9:41
  and
• 9:41
  letting
• 9:42
  them
• 9:42
  see
• 9:43
  birds,
• 9:43
  it
• 9:43
  opens
• 9:44
  their
• 9:44
  eyes
• 9:45
  to
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  possibilities.
• 9:49
  As
• 9:50
  I
• 9:50
  said,
• 9:50
  many
• 9:50
  of
• 9:50
  these
• 9:51
  kids,
• 9:51
  most
• 9:51
  of
• 9:52
  these
• 9:52
  kids
• 9:52
  live
• 9:53
  in
• 9:53
  extremely
• 9:54
  park
• 9:54
  poor
• 9:54
  areas.
• 9:55
  The
• 9:55
  San
• 9:56
  Fernando
• 9:56
  Valley
• 9:57
  is
• 9:57
  notorious
• 9:57
  for
• 9:58
  that.
• 10:00
  And
• 10:00
  here
• 10:00
  in
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  middle
• 10:01
  of
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  valley
• 10:02
  is
• 10:02
  this
• 10:02
  little
• 10:02
  oasis.
• 10:03
  And
• 10:04
  few
• 10:04
  of
• 10:05
  them
• 10:05
  have
• 10:05
  ever
• 10:05
  been
• 10:05
  there
• 10:06
  before.
• 10:06
  And
• 10:07
  I
• 10:08
  recall
• 10:08
  once
• 10:08
  when
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  was
• 10:09
  leading
• 10:10
  a
• 10:10
  group
• 10:10
  of
• 10:11
  fifth
• 10:11
  graders
• 10:12
  around
• 10:12
  and
• 10:13
  it
• 10:13
  was
• 10:13
  the
• 10:13
  end
• 10:13
  of
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  walk
• 10:14
  and
• 10:14
  they're
• 10:14
  heading
• 10:15
  back
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  bus
• 10:16
  where
• 10:16
  they're
• 10:16
  going
• 10:16
  to
• 10:16
  get
• 10:17
  their
• 10:17
  lunch.
• 10:18
  And
• 10:18
  you
• 10:18
  know
• 10:18
  kids,
• 10:19
  they
• 10:19
  are
• 10:20
  hungry
• 10:20
  all
• 10:20
  the
• 10:21
  time.
• 10:21
  And
• 10:22
  I
• 10:22
  expected
• 10:22
  the
• 10:23
  children
• 10:23
  to
• 10:23
  be
• 10:24
  racing
• 10:24
  back.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:25
  some
• 10:26
  of
• 10:26
  them
• 10:26
  were,
• 10:26
  but
• 10:26
  there
• 10:27
  were
• 10:27
  these
• 10:27
  two
• 10:27
  little
• 10:27
  boys
• 10:28
  who
• 10:28
  kept
• 10:28
  dawdling
• 10:29
  along
• 10:30
  behind
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  I
• 10:31
  finally
• 10:31
  asked
• 10:31
  them,
• 10:32
  aren't
• 10:32
  you,
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  know,
• 10:34
  why
• 10:34
  aren't
• 10:34
  you
• 10:34
  hurrying
• 10:35
  back
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  bus?
• 10:36
  And
• 10:36
  one
• 10:36
  of
• 10:37
  them
• 10:37
  turned
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  me
• 10:37
  and
• 10:37
  he
• 10:38
  said,
• 10:38
  it's
• 10:39
  so
• 10:39
  peaceful
• 10:40
  here.
• 10:42
  And
• 10:42
  that
• 10:42
  just
• 10:43
  warmed
• 10:43
  my
• 10:44
  heart
• 10:44
  and
• 10:44
  made
• 10:45
  Me
• 10:45
  think,
• 10:45
  okay,
• 10:46
  we
• 10:46
  are
• 10:46
  doing
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  right
• 10:47
  thing
• 10:47
  here.
• 10:48
  I
• 10:48
  do
• 10:48
  have
• 10:49
  a
• 10:49
  follow
• 10:49
  up
• 10:49
  though,
• 10:49
  because
• 10:50
  I
• 10:50
  know
• 10:50
  you
• 10:50
  did
• 10:50
  mention
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  impact
• 10:52
  on
• 10:52
  the
• 10:53
  environment,
• 10:54
  but
• 10:55
  in
• 10:55
  like
• 10:56
  maybe
• 10:56
  one
• 10:56
  or
• 10:56
  two
• 10:57
  specific
• 10:57
  examples
• 10:58
  of
• 10:58
  how
• 10:59
  birds
• 10:59
  actually
• 11:00
  do
• 11:00
  that,
• 11:00
  like,
• 11:00
  you
• 11:01
  know,
• 11:01
  we
• 11:01
  get
• 11:01
  with
• 11:01
  bees,
• 11:01
  we
• 11:02
  know
• 11:02
  they
• 11:02
  pollinate
• 11:03
  and,
• 11:03
  you
• 11:04
  know,
• 11:04
  that
• 11:04
  contributes
• 11:05
  to
• 11:05
  our
• 11:05
  food
• 11:05
  source
• 11:06
  and
• 11:06
  so
• 11:06
  on
• 11:06
  and
• 11:06
  so
• 11:07
  on
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  so
• 11:07
  on.
• 11:07
  How,
• 11:08
  like,
• 11:09
  what
• 11:09
  things
• 11:09
  do
• 11:09
  birds
• 11:10
  do
• 11:11
  that
• 11:11
  contribute
• 11:12
  to
• 11:12
  the
• 11:13
  betterment?
• 11:13
  Well,
• 11:14
  our
• 11:14
  environment.
• 11:16
  Birds
• 11:16
  are
• 11:16
  pollinators
• 11:17
  too.
• 11:18
  People
• 11:18
  don't
• 11:18
  think
• 11:18
  of
• 11:19
  that.
• 11:19
  But
• 11:19
  as
• 11:19
  birds
• 11:20
  feed
• 11:21
  on
• 11:22
  nectar
• 11:22
  in
• 11:23
  blossoms,
• 11:24
  they
• 11:24
  are
• 11:24
  spreading
• 11:25
  pollen
• 11:25
  just
• 11:26
  as
• 11:26
  bees
• 11:26
  do.
• 11:27
  And
• 11:27
  there
• 11:27
  are
• 11:28
  many
• 11:29
  plants
• 11:30
  that
• 11:30
  are
• 11:30
  exclusively
• 11:31
  pollinated
• 11:33
  by
• 11:33
  birds.
• 11:34
  So
• 11:35
  for
• 11:35
  example,
• 11:36
  anytime
• 11:36
  you
• 11:37
  see
• 11:37
  a
• 11:37
  flower
• 11:38
  that
• 11:38
  has
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  long
• 11:39
  tube,
• 11:41
  you
• 11:41
  know,
• 11:41
  a
• 11:42
  very
• 11:42
  long
• 11:42
  tube,
• 11:43
  bees
• 11:43
  are
• 11:43
  not
• 11:44
  pollinating
• 11:44
  that.
• 11:45
  They
• 11:45
  can't,
• 11:46
  they
• 11:46
  can't
• 11:46
  get
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  that
• 11:47
  nectar.
• 11:47
  The
• 11:48
  only
• 11:48
  creatures
• 11:49
  that
• 11:49
  can
• 11:50
  get
• 11:50
  to
• 11:50
  that
• 11:50
  nectar
• 11:51
  are
• 11:51
  hummingbirds.
• 11:52
  So
• 11:53
  anytime
• 11:53
  you
• 11:53
  see
• 11:53
  a
• 11:53
  flower
• 11:54
  with
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  long
• 11:55
  tubular
• 11:56
  shape,
• 11:57
  it's
• 11:57
  going
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  be
• 11:57
  pollinated
• 11:58
  by
• 11:58
  hummingbirds.
• 12:01
  Another
• 12:02
  way
• 12:02
  they
• 12:02
  help
• 12:02
  us
• 12:03
  obviously
• 12:03
  is
• 12:04
  by
• 12:04
  eating
• 12:04
  insects,
• 12:07
  you
• 12:07
  know,
• 12:07
  harmful
• 12:07
  insects,
• 12:09
  mosquitoes.
• 12:11
  You
• 12:12
  know,
• 12:12
  many
• 12:12
  of
• 12:12
  our
• 12:12
  birds
• 12:13
  feed
• 12:13
  almost
• 12:14
  exclusively
• 12:15
  on
• 12:15
  insects.
• 12:17
  And
• 12:18
  you
• 12:19
  know,
• 12:19
  but,
• 12:20
  and
• 12:20
  that's
• 12:20
  one
• 12:21
  reason
• 12:21
  that
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  broad
• 12:23
  use
• 12:23
  of
• 12:23
  pesticides
• 12:24
  has
• 12:24
  been
• 12:25
  so
• 12:25
  devastating
• 12:26
  to
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  bird
• 12:27
  population
• 12:27
  that
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  pesticides
• 12:29
  are
• 12:29
  not.
• 12:29
  I
• 12:30
  mean,
• 12:30
  they're
• 12:30
  harmful
• 12:31
  in
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  of
• 12:32
  themselves,
• 12:32
  but
• 12:33
  the
• 12:34
  tremendous
• 12:34
  reduction
• 12:35
  in
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  insect
• 12:36
  population
• 12:36
  is
• 12:37
  now
• 12:37
  having
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  effect
• 12:39
  of
• 12:40
  reducing
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  bird
• 12:41
  population
• 12:42
  as
• 12:43
  well.
• 12:44
  So,
• 12:46
  yeah,
• 12:47
  they
• 12:48
  are
• 12:48
  a
• 12:48
  very
• 12:49
  important
• 12:49
  part
• 12:50
  of
• 12:50
  our
• 12:50
  ecosystem.
• 12:52
  You
• 12:52
  were
• 12:52
  talking
• 12:53
  about
• 12:53
  children
• 12:55
  here
• 12:55
  a
• 12:56
  few
• 12:56
  minutes
• 12:56
  ago,
• 12:58
  and
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  said
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  was
• 12:59
  going
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  talk
• 12:59
  about
• 12:59
  hummingbirds
• 13:00
  for
• 13:00
  a
• 13:00
  moment.
• 13:00
  I
• 13:01
  remember
• 13:01
  when
• 13:01
  my
• 13:02
  kids
• 13:02
  were
• 13:02
  children,
• 13:03
  hummingbirds
• 13:04
  set
• 13:04
  up
• 13:05
  a
• 13:05
  nest
• 13:05
  in
• 13:05
  wind
• 13:05
  chimes
• 13:06
  on
• 13:06
  the
• 13:06
  patio.
• 13:07
  And,
• 13:07
  and
• 13:09
  we
• 13:09
  got
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  little
• 13:10
  ladder
• 13:10
  and
• 13:11
  we
• 13:11
  looked
• 13:11
  up
• 13:11
  over
• 13:11
  into
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  wind
• 13:12
  chimes
• 13:12
  and
• 13:13
  there
• 13:13
  were
• 13:13
  eggs.
• 13:14
  And
• 13:15
  every
• 13:16
  day,
• 13:17
  more
• 13:17
  than
• 13:17
  once
• 13:18
  a
• 13:18
  day,
• 13:18
  we
• 13:19
  would
• 13:19
  take
• 13:19
  a
• 13:20
  look
• 13:20
  at
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  nest
• 13:21
  and
• 13:21
  follow
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  life
• 13:23
  cycle
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  hummingbird
• 13:25
  from
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  eggs
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  birth
• 13:26
  to
• 13:27
  leaving
• 13:27
  the
• 13:27
  nest.
• 13:28
  And
• 13:28
  it
• 13:29
  was
• 13:29
  just
• 13:30
  fascinating.
• 13:30
  And
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  think
• 13:31
  that's
• 13:32
  where
• 13:32
  I
• 13:32
  got
• 13:33
  my
• 13:33
  passion
• 13:33
  for
• 13:34
  hummingbirds.
• 13:34
  In
• 13:34
  fact,
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  know,
• 13:35
  I'm
• 13:35
  going
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  get
• 13:36
  one
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  these
• 13:36
  little
• 13:36
  hummingbird
• 13:37
  feeders
• 13:37
  that
• 13:38
  have
• 13:38
  a
• 13:38
  camera.
• 13:39
  I'm
• 13:39
  going
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  hang
• 13:40
  it
• 13:40
  out
• 13:40
  here
• 13:40
  on
• 13:40
  my,
• 13:40
  my
• 13:41
  balcony
• 13:42
  so
• 13:42
  that
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  can
• 13:42
  watch
• 13:43
  the
• 13:43
  birds
• 13:43
  on
• 13:44
  my
• 13:44
  phone
• 13:45
  through
• 13:45
  the
• 13:46
  camera
• 13:46
  in
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  nest.
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  love
• 13:48
  technology
• 13:49
  and
• 13:49
  I
• 13:49
  think
• 13:49
  that
• 13:50
  that's
• 13:50
  a
• 13:50
  pretty
• 13:50
  good
• 13:51
  use
• 13:51
  of
• 13:51
  it.
• 13:51
  So,
• 13:52
  you
• 13:52
  know,
• 13:53
  I
• 13:53
  think
• 13:53
  hummingbirds
• 13:54
  are
• 13:54
  fascinating.
• 13:55
  The,
• 13:55
  the
• 13:56
  wing
• 13:56
  speed
• 13:57
  and
• 13:57
  all
• 13:57
  of
• 13:57
  that
• 13:58
  is
• 13:58
  just
• 13:58
  crazy.
• 14:00
  Yes,
• 14:01
  hummingbirds
• 14:02
  are
• 14:02
  Amazing
• 14:04
  creatures.
• 14:06
  As
• 14:07
  they
• 14:07
  fly
• 14:07
  upside
• 14:07
  down,
• 14:08
  right?
• 14:08
  You
• 14:08
  say
• 14:08
  you
• 14:09
  can
• 14:10
  fly
• 14:10
  forwards,
• 14:11
  backwards,
• 14:11
  right,
• 14:12
  Left,
• 14:12
  upside
• 14:13
  down.
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  didn't
• 14:14
  know
• 14:14
  that.
• 14:15
  They
• 14:15
  are
• 14:16
  extremely
• 14:19
  agile
• 14:19
  flyers.
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  once
• 14:21
  watched
• 14:23
  a
• 14:23
  hummingbird
• 14:25
  chase
• 14:25
  away
• 14:26
  a
• 14:26
  red
• 14:27
  tail
• 14:27
  hawk
• 14:27
  that
• 14:28
  it
• 14:28
  felt
• 14:28
  was
• 14:28
  a
• 14:29
  little
• 14:29
  too
• 14:29
  close
• 14:29
  to
• 14:30
  its
• 14:30
  territory.
• 14:31
  And
• 14:32
  it
• 14:32
  did
• 14:32
  it
• 14:32
  by
• 14:33
  just
• 14:33
  getting
• 14:33
  in
• 14:34
  that
• 14:34
  hawk's
• 14:35
  face
• 14:35
  and
• 14:36
  harassing
• 14:36
  it.
• 14:37
  Endless,
• 14:37
  you
• 14:38
  know,
• 14:38
  relentlessly,
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  know,
• 14:40
  getting
• 14:41
  in
• 14:42
  close
• 14:42
  to
• 14:42
  the
• 14:42
  base,
• 14:43
  flying
• 14:43
  back,
• 14:43
  getting
• 14:43
  in,
• 14:44
  flying
• 14:44
  back.
• 14:45
  And
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  hummingbird
• 14:47
  has
• 14:47
  no
• 14:47
  fear
• 14:48
  because
• 14:48
  nothing
• 14:48
  can
• 14:48
  catch
• 14:49
  it.
• 14:52
  A
• 14:52
  little
• 14:52
  fighter
• 14:52
  jet.
• 14:53
  They're
• 14:53
  like
• 14:53
  little
• 14:53
  fighter
• 14:54
  jets.
• 14:54
  Like
• 14:54
  little
• 14:55
  fighter
• 14:55
  jets.
• 14:57
  Do
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  wings
• 14:58
  go?
• 14:59
  How
• 14:59
  fast
• 14:59
  do
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  wings
• 15:00
  go?
• 15:01
  That
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  can't.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  don't
• 15:02
  have
• 15:02
  that
• 15:03
  off
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  top
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  my
• 15:03
  head.
• 15:04
  But
• 15:04
  it's.
• 15:04
  It's
• 15:04
  crazy.
• 15:05
  The.
• 15:06
  Yeah,
• 15:06
  right.
• 15:06
  For
• 15:07
  sure.
• 15:07
  It's
• 15:08
  like
• 15:08
  thousands
• 15:08
  of
• 15:08
  times.
• 15:09
  It's
• 15:10
  hundreds
• 15:10
  of
• 15:10
  times
• 15:10
  that.
• 15:11
  Maybe
• 15:11
  thousands
• 15:11
  of
• 15:12
  times
• 15:12
  a
• 15:12
  second.
• 15:13
  Love
• 15:14
  that
• 15:14
  story.
• 15:14
  Because
• 15:15
  it
• 15:15
  shows
• 15:15
  the
• 15:16
  power
• 15:16
  of
• 15:16
  being
• 15:16
  small
• 15:17
  and
• 15:17
  annoying.
• 15:20
  Absolutely.
• 15:22
  That's
• 15:22
  my
• 15:22
  superpower.
• 15:23
  And
• 15:23
  the
• 15:24
  red
• 15:24
  tail
• 15:24
  hawk
• 15:24
  just
• 15:25
  decided,
• 15:25
  you
• 15:25
  know
• 15:25
  what?
• 15:26
  It's
• 15:26
  not
• 15:26
  worth
• 15:26
  it
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  hang
• 15:27
  out.
• 15:27
  I'll
• 15:27
  go
• 15:28
  hang
• 15:28
  out
• 15:28
  somewhere
• 15:28
  else.
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  had
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  question
• 15:31
  about
• 15:32
  another
• 15:33
  one
• 15:33
  of
• 15:33
  your
• 15:34
  projects
• 15:35
  because
• 15:35
  you
• 15:35
  guys
• 15:36
  did
• 15:36
  something
• 15:37
  pretty
• 15:37
  special
• 15:38
  recently
• 15:39
  involving
• 15:39
  not
• 15:40
  birds,
• 15:41
  but
• 15:41
  goats.
• 15:42
  Can
• 15:42
  you
• 15:42
  tell
• 15:43
  us
• 15:43
  about
• 15:43
  that?
• 15:44
  Yes.
• 15:45
  That
• 15:45
  was
• 15:45
  a
• 15:46
  lot
• 15:46
  of
• 15:46
  fun.
• 15:48
  As
• 15:48
  you
• 15:49
  have
• 15:49
  probably
• 15:49
  heard,
• 15:50
  we
• 15:50
  have
• 15:50
  a
• 15:50
  lot
• 15:50
  of
• 15:51
  trouble
• 15:51
  with
• 15:51
  wildfires
• 15:53
  here
• 15:53
  in
• 15:54
  brush
• 15:54
  fires
• 15:54
  and
• 15:55
  wildfires
• 15:55
  here
• 15:55
  in
• 15:56
  Los
• 15:56
  Angeles
• 15:56
  county,
• 15:57
  and
• 15:58
  especially
• 15:58
  in
• 15:58
  the
• 15:59
  Sepulveda
• 15:59
  Basin,
• 16:00
  where
• 16:00
  there
• 16:00
  is
• 16:02
  a
• 16:02
  lot
• 16:02
  of
• 16:03
  weedy
• 16:03
  overgrowth.
• 16:05
  And
• 16:05
  we
• 16:05
  have
• 16:05
  been
• 16:06
  trying
• 16:06
  for
• 16:07
  years
• 16:07
  to
• 16:07
  get
• 16:08
  a
• 16:08
  pilot
• 16:08
  program
• 16:09
  approved
• 16:11
  to
• 16:11
  try
• 16:12
  using
• 16:12
  goats
• 16:13
  to
• 16:15
  consume
• 16:16
  this
• 16:16
  weedy
• 16:17
  overgrowth.
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  know
• 16:18
  they
• 16:18
  have
• 16:18
  been
• 16:18
  used.
• 16:21
  Friends
• 16:21
  of
• 16:21
  ours
• 16:23
  have
• 16:25
  not.
• 16:25
  In
• 16:25
  the
• 16:25
  city
• 16:25
  of
• 16:26
  la,
• 16:26
  in
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  city
• 16:27
  of
• 16:27
  Santa
• 16:27
  Monica,
• 16:28
  I
• 16:28
  believe,
• 16:29
  had
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  experience
• 16:31
  of
• 16:32
  having
• 16:32
  goats
• 16:32
  go
• 16:33
  through
• 16:33
  their
• 16:33
  housing
• 16:34
  development
• 16:35
  and
• 16:35
  chewing
• 16:36
  up
• 16:36
  the
• 16:36
  weeds.
• 16:37
  And
• 16:37
  they're
• 16:38
  frequently
• 16:38
  used
• 16:38
  in
• 16:39
  areas
• 16:39
  that
• 16:39
  are
• 16:39
  hard
• 16:39
  to
• 16:40
  reach,
• 16:40
  like
• 16:40
  mountains
• 16:41
  and
• 16:41
  cliffs
• 16:42
  and
• 16:42
  such.
• 16:43
  But
• 16:43
  our
• 16:43
  idea
• 16:44
  was
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  try
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  use
• 16:45
  them
• 16:45
  in
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  basin
• 16:46
  because
• 16:46
  they're
• 16:47
  less
• 16:50
  damaging
• 16:50
  to
• 16:51
  the
• 16:52
  existing
• 16:52
  native
• 16:53
  vegetation
• 16:54
  than,
• 16:54
  for
• 16:55
  example,
• 16:55
  herbicides
• 16:56
  would
• 16:56
  be.
• 16:57
  So
• 16:59
  we
• 16:59
  tried
• 17:00
  for
• 17:00
  years.
• 17:00
  And,
• 17:01
  you
• 17:01
  know,
• 17:01
  the
• 17:02
  city
• 17:02
  had
• 17:02
  never
• 17:02
  done
• 17:02
  anything
• 17:03
  like
• 17:03
  this,
• 17:04
  so
• 17:04
  it
• 17:04
  was
• 17:04
  difficult
• 17:05
  to
• 17:05
  get
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  permits,
• 17:06
  it
• 17:06
  was
• 17:06
  difficult
• 17:07
  to
• 17:07
  get
• 17:07
  progress.
• 17:08
  And
• 17:10
  then
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  mayor's
• 17:11
  office
• 17:12
  came
• 17:12
  through
• 17:12
  for
• 17:13
  us
• 17:13
  in
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  great
• 17:13
  way
• 17:14
  and
• 17:14
  said,
• 17:14
  make
• 17:14
  this
• 17:15
  happen.
• 17:16
  And
• 17:16
  so
• 17:16
  we
• 17:16
  had
• 17:17
  a
• 17:17
  pilot
• 17:17
  program
• 17:18
  with
• 17:18
  a
• 17:18
  thousand
• 17:19
  goats
• 17:20
  munching
• 17:21
  on
• 17:22
  invasive
• 17:23
  mustard
• 17:23
  and
• 17:23
  other
• 17:24
  plants
• 17:24
  in
• 17:24
  the.
• 17:26
  In
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  basin.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:27
  we
• 17:27
  will
• 17:27
  continue
• 17:28
  with
• 17:29
  this
• 17:29
  pilot
• 17:30
  program
• 17:31
  monitoring
• 17:32
  the
• 17:32
  area
• 17:32
  that
• 17:33
  was
• 17:33
  munched
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  see
• 17:35
  how
• 17:35
  it
• 17:35
  compares
• 17:36
  to
• 17:36
  other
• 17:36
  areas
• 17:36
  and
• 17:37
  whether
• 17:37
  that
• 17:37
  is
• 17:37
  a
• 17:38
  successful,
• 17:40
  you
• 17:41
  know,
• 17:41
  a
• 17:41
  successful
• 17:42
  way
• 17:42
  to
• 17:42
  reduce
• 17:42
  fire
• 17:43
  risk.
• 17:43
  But
• 17:44
  in
• 17:44
  the
• 17:44
  meantime,
• 17:45
  it
• 17:45
  was
• 17:45
  a
• 17:45
  lot
• 17:45
  of
• 17:45
  fun
• 17:46
  to
• 17:46
  watch
• 17:46
  the
• 17:46
  goats,.
• 17:47
  Of
• 17:47
  course,
• 17:48
  and
• 17:48
  yet,
• 17:48
  not
• 17:49
  far
• 17:49
  away,
• 17:49
  up
• 17:49
  at
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  Reagan
• 17:50
  Library,
• 17:50
  they've
• 17:51
  been
• 17:51
  using
• 17:51
  goats
• 17:52
  for
• 17:52
  years
• 17:53
  to
• 17:54
  mow
• 17:54
  down
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  grass.
• 17:55
  Have
• 17:55
  you
• 17:55
  been
• 17:55
  in
• 17:56
  communication
• 17:56
  with
• 17:56
  the
• 17:56
  Reagan
• 17:57
  Library
• 17:57
  and
• 17:57
  Simi
• 17:58
  Valley
• 17:58
  to
• 17:58
  sort
• 17:59
  of
• 17:59
  see
• 17:59
  what
• 18:00
  tips
• 18:00
  you
• 18:00
  can
• 18:00
  get
• 18:00
  from
• 18:00
  them?
• 18:01
  Well,
• 18:02
  you
• 18:02
  know,
• 18:02
  we
• 18:03
  trusted
• 18:03
  the
• 18:04
  professionals
• 18:05
  with
• 18:05
  the
• 18:05
  goats,
• 18:06
  so
• 18:07
  to
• 18:08
  my
• 18:08
  knowledge,
• 18:08
  we
• 18:09
  haven't
• 18:09
  been
• 18:09
  in
• 18:09
  communication
• 18:10
  with
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  Reagan
• 18:11
  Library.
• 18:11
  But,
• 18:13
  you
• 18:13
  know,
• 18:13
  the
• 18:14
  company
• 18:14
  that
• 18:15
  we
• 18:15
  employed,
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  owners
• 18:16
  of
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  goats,
• 18:17
  have
• 18:17
  been
• 18:17
  doing
• 18:18
  this
• 18:18
  for
• 18:18
  years.
• 18:18
  And
• 18:19
  it's
• 18:19
  probably
• 18:19
  the
• 18:20
  same
• 18:20
  company,
• 18:21
  I'm
• 18:21
  going
• 18:21
  to
• 18:22
  guess.
• 18:22
  Yeah,
• 18:22
  might
• 18:22
  be
• 18:22
  they
• 18:23
  outsource
• 18:23
  it
• 18:24
  as
• 18:24
  well.
• 18:24
  So
• 18:25
  it
• 18:25
  very
• 18:25
  well
• 18:25
  might
• 18:26
  be,
• 18:27
  if
• 18:27
  possible.
• 18:27
  Do
• 18:27
  you
• 18:28
  have
• 18:28
  any
• 18:28
  idea
• 18:28
  why
• 18:28
  the
• 18:29
  city
• 18:29
  was
• 18:29
  so
• 18:29
  resistant
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  doing
• 18:30
  this
• 18:31
  when
• 18:31
  it's
• 18:31
  been
• 18:31
  done
• 18:31
  so
• 18:32
  successfully?
• 18:32
  Other
• 18:32
  places
• 18:35
  I
• 18:35
  can
• 18:35
  make
• 18:36
  a
• 18:36
  guess,
• 18:36
  and
• 18:36
  my
• 18:36
  guess
• 18:37
  would
• 18:37
  just
• 18:37
  be
• 18:37
  because
• 18:38
  they
• 18:38
  had
• 18:38
  never
• 18:38
  done
• 18:39
  it
• 18:39
  before
• 18:41
  and,
• 18:41
  you
• 18:41
  know,
• 18:42
  they
• 18:42
  were
• 18:42
  worried
• 18:43
  about
• 18:44
  potential
• 18:45
  risk.
• 18:46
  You
• 18:46
  know,
• 18:46
  what.
• 18:47
  What
• 18:47
  if.
• 18:47
  Because
• 18:48
  the
• 18:48
  basin
• 18:48
  is
• 18:49
  a
• 18:49
  flood.
• 18:50
  Flood
• 18:50
  basin.
• 18:51
  You
• 18:51
  know,
• 18:51
  what
• 18:51
  if
• 18:51
  we
• 18:52
  got
• 18:52
  rain?
• 18:53
  Then
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  goats
• 18:53
  would
• 18:53
  have
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  be
• 18:54
  moved
• 18:54
  out
• 18:55
  because
• 18:55
  they
• 18:55
  would
• 18:55
  drown.
• 18:56
  You
• 18:56
  know,
• 18:56
  what
• 18:57
  about
• 18:57
  the.
• 18:58
  The
• 18:58
  goatherd
• 18:59
  had
• 18:59
  to
• 18:59
  stay
• 19:00
  with
• 19:00
  them
• 19:00
  24
• 19:01
  hours.
• 19:01
  So
• 19:02
  they
• 19:02
  had
• 19:02
  to,
• 19:02
  you
• 19:03
  know,
• 19:03
  we
• 19:03
  had
• 19:03
  to
• 19:03
  get
• 19:03
  permission
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  have
• 19:05
  a
• 19:05
  camper
• 19:06
  on
• 19:06
  site
• 19:07
  so
• 19:07
  that
• 19:07
  the
• 19:07
  goatherd
• 19:08
  had
• 19:08
  somewhere
• 19:08
  to
• 19:09
  sleep.
• 19:10
  So
• 19:10
  it's
• 19:10
  just.
• 19:10
  It
• 19:11
  hadn't
• 19:11
  been
• 19:12
  done
• 19:12
  before,
• 19:12
  but
• 19:13
  now
• 19:13
  that
• 19:13
  it
• 19:13
  has
• 19:14
  been
• 19:14
  done
• 19:14
  once
• 19:15
  by
• 19:15
  us,
• 19:16
  the
• 19:17
  kind
• 19:17
  of.
• 19:18
  The
• 19:18
  floodgates
• 19:18
  have
• 19:18
  opened,
• 19:19
  and
• 19:19
  other
• 19:20
  areas
• 19:21
  within
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  city
• 19:22
  of
• 19:22
  Los
• 19:22
  Angeles
• 19:23
  are
• 19:23
  successfully
• 19:24
  getting
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  permits.
• 19:25
  The
• 19:26
  goats.
• 19:26
  In
• 19:26
  fact,
• 19:26
  the
• 19:27
  goats
• 19:27
  went
• 19:27
  straight
• 19:28
  to
• 19:28
  another
• 19:28
  project
• 19:30
  within
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  city
• 19:32
  after
• 19:32
  they
• 19:32
  were
• 19:32
  done
• 19:32
  with
• 19:33
  us.
• 19:34
  Okay,
• 19:34
  so,
• 19:34
  Kathy,
• 19:35
  I
• 19:35
  don't
• 19:35
  know
• 19:35
  if
• 19:35
  you've
• 19:36
  seen
• 19:36
  this
• 19:36
  or
• 19:36
  not.
• 19:36
  You
• 19:36
  know,
• 19:37
  we
• 19:37
  talked
• 19:37
  about
• 19:37
  how
• 19:37
  people
• 19:38
  may
• 19:38
  just
• 19:38
  assume
• 19:40
  that
• 19:40
  the
• 19:40
  Audubon
• 19:41
  Society
• 19:41
  is
• 19:41
  about
• 19:41
  birds,
• 19:42
  and
• 19:42
  there
• 19:42
  are
• 19:42
  a
• 19:42
  bunch
• 19:42
  of
• 19:42
  people
• 19:42
  who
• 19:43
  are
• 19:43
  obsessed
• 19:43
  with
• 19:43
  watching
• 19:44
  birds,
• 19:44
  and
• 19:44
  you
• 19:44
  see
• 19:44
  them
• 19:45
  walking
• 19:45
  around
• 19:45
  with
• 19:45
  binoculars
• 19:46
  and,
• 19:47
  you
• 19:47
  know,
• 19:48
  spending
• 19:49
  their
• 19:49
  day
• 19:49
  chasing,
• 19:51
  you
• 19:51
  know,
• 19:51
  the
• 19:52
  opportunity
• 19:53
  maybe
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  see
• 19:53
  this
• 19:54
  one
• 19:54
  rare
• 19:54
  bird.
• 19:55
  But
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  think
• 19:57
  there
• 19:57
  might
• 19:57
  be
• 19:58
  some
• 19:59
  influence
• 19:59
  on
• 19:59
  Instagram
• 20:01
  in
• 20:01
  how
• 20:02
  people
• 20:02
  see
• 20:02
  birds.
• 20:02
  And
• 20:03
  it's.
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  think
• 20:03
  it's
• 20:04
  totally
• 20:04
  accidental,
• 20:05
  but
• 20:06
  there's
• 20:06
  an
• 20:07
  account
• 20:07
  that
• 20:07
  I've
• 20:08
  been
• 20:08
  following
• 20:08
  for
• 20:09
  a
• 20:09
  while
• 20:09
  because
• 20:09
  I
• 20:09
  stumbled
• 20:10
  across
• 20:10
  it.
• 20:10
  And
• 20:10
  his
• 20:11
  name
• 20:11
  is
• 20:11
  Keith
• 20:11
  Lau.
• 20:12
  L
• 20:12
  A
• 20:12
  U
• 20:13
  E.
• 20:13
  I
• 20:13
  think
• 20:14
  that's
• 20:14
  how
• 20:14
  you
• 20:14
  say
• 20:14
  his
• 20:14
  name,
• 20:15
  but
• 20:15
  he
• 20:16
  posts
• 20:16
  on
• 20:16
  his
• 20:17
  Instagram
• 20:18
  a
• 20:19
  bunch
• 20:19
  of
• 20:19
  different
• 20:19
  birds
• 20:20
  doing
• 20:20
  their
• 20:21
  mating
• 20:22
  dances
• 20:23
  and
• 20:23
  Then
• 20:24
  he
• 20:24
  cuts
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  himself
• 20:25
  doing
• 20:25
  the
• 20:25
  same
• 20:26
  mating
• 20:26
  dance
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  his
• 20:27
  wife
• 20:27
  to
• 20:27
  see
• 20:27
  if
• 20:27
  she
• 20:27
  reacts.
• 20:29
  And
• 20:29
  it's
• 20:30
  just,
• 20:30
  it's
• 20:30
  really
• 20:31
  funny.
• 20:31
  But
• 20:31
  since
• 20:31
  he
• 20:32
  started
• 20:32
  doing
• 20:32
  it
• 20:33
  that
• 20:34
  I've
• 20:34
  seen
• 20:34
  other
• 20:35
  men
• 20:35
  do
• 20:35
  it,
• 20:35
  like
• 20:36
  when
• 20:36
  they're
• 20:36
  out
• 20:37
  in
• 20:37
  public
• 20:38
  at
• 20:38
  a
• 20:38
  bar,
• 20:38
  they
• 20:39
  start
• 20:39
  trying
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  do.
• 20:40
  I
• 20:40
  mean,
• 20:40
  I've
• 20:40
  got
• 20:41
  his
• 20:41
  example
• 20:41
  right
• 20:41
  here,
• 20:42
  and
• 20:42
  we
• 20:43
  can
• 20:43
  add
• 20:43
  this
• 20:43
  in
• 20:43
  post,
• 20:44
  but
• 20:45
  I
• 20:45
  wanted
• 20:45
  you
• 20:45
  to
• 20:45
  see
• 20:46
  how
• 20:46
  he.
• 20:47
  He
• 20:47
  takes
• 20:48
  each
• 20:48
  different
• 20:48
  bird
• 20:49
  and
• 20:49
  he.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:50
  he
• 20:51
  tries
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  mimic
• 20:52
  their
• 20:52
  mating,
• 20:53
  you
• 20:54
  know,
• 20:54
  dance.
• 20:55
  And.
• 20:56
  And
• 20:56
  there's
• 20:57
  another
• 20:57
  guy
• 20:57
  who,
• 20:58
  who
• 20:58
  does
• 20:58
  it
• 20:58
  for
• 20:59
  his
• 20:59
  wife
• 20:59
  and
• 20:59
  she
• 21:00
  just
• 21:00
  looks
• 21:00
  at
• 21:00
  him
• 21:00
  like,
• 21:00
  what
• 21:00
  are
• 21:01
  you
• 21:01
  doing?
• 21:01
  And,
• 21:02
  you
• 21:02
  know,
• 21:03
  but
• 21:03
  it's.
• 21:03
  I
• 21:03
  think
• 21:04
  it's
• 21:04
  actually
• 21:04
  kind
• 21:05
  of
• 21:05
  a
• 21:05
  really
• 21:05
  cute
• 21:06
  way
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  bring
• 21:07
  awareness.
• 21:07
  And
• 21:08
  I
• 21:08
  don't
• 21:08
  think
• 21:08
  they
• 21:08
  meant
• 21:09
  to.
• 21:09
  They
• 21:10
  were
• 21:10
  trying
• 21:10
  to
• 21:10
  be
• 21:10
  funny
• 21:11
  and
• 21:11
  mimic
• 21:12
  nature
• 21:12
  and
• 21:13
  see
• 21:14
  if
• 21:14
  doing
• 21:14
  that
• 21:15
  can
• 21:15
  attract
• 21:15
  a
• 21:15
  mate.
• 21:16
  There's
• 21:16
  one
• 21:16
  another
• 21:16
  guy
• 21:17
  who
• 21:17
  is
• 21:17
  specifically
• 21:18
  learning
• 21:19
  all
• 21:19
  of
• 21:19
  the
• 21:19
  bird,
• 21:20
  male
• 21:20
  bird
• 21:20
  dances
• 21:21
  so
• 21:21
  that
• 21:22
  every
• 21:22
  time
• 21:22
  he
• 21:23
  meets
• 21:23
  a
• 21:23
  woman,
• 21:24
  he,
• 21:24
  you
• 21:24
  know,
• 21:25
  kind
• 21:25
  of
• 21:25
  jokingly
• 21:26
  does
• 21:26
  this,
• 21:27
  the
• 21:28
  bird
• 21:28
  mating
• 21:28
  dance.
• 21:29
  But
• 21:29
  I
• 21:30
  don't
• 21:30
  know
• 21:31
  if
• 21:31
  you've
• 21:31
  ever
• 21:31
  seen
• 21:31
  those
• 21:31
  before,
• 21:32
  but
• 21:33
  I
• 21:33
  kind
• 21:33
  of
• 21:33
  find
• 21:33
  those
• 21:34
  funny
• 21:34
  because
• 21:35
  I
• 21:35
  don't,
• 21:36
  you
• 21:36
  know,
• 21:36
  I
• 21:36
  think
• 21:36
  they
• 21:37
  accidentally
• 21:37
  kind
• 21:38
  of
• 21:38
  raise
• 21:38
  awareness
• 21:39
  for
• 21:40
  the
• 21:40
  kind
• 21:40
  of
• 21:40
  stuff
• 21:40
  we're
• 21:41
  talking
• 21:41
  about
• 21:41
  right
• 21:42
  now.
• 21:43
  There
• 21:43
  are
• 21:44
  so
• 21:44
  many
• 21:45
  different
• 21:46
  social
• 21:46
  media
• 21:47
  accounts
• 21:48
  focused
• 21:48
  on
• 21:48
  birds
• 21:49
  and
• 21:49
  bird
• 21:49
  behavior
• 21:50
  and
• 21:51
  bird
• 21:51
  photography.
• 21:53
  It's
• 21:53
  one
• 21:53
  of
• 21:54
  the
• 21:54
  most
• 21:55
  popular
• 21:56
  hobbies
• 21:56
  in
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  United
• 21:57
  States
• 21:57
  and
• 21:58
  fastest
• 21:58
  growing.
• 22:00
  The
• 22:02
  I
• 22:02
  will
• 22:02
  say
• 22:03
  that
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  one
• 22:05
  event
• 22:05
  and
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  last,
• 22:06
  you
• 22:06
  know,
• 22:07
  since
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  started
• 22:07
  bird
• 22:08
  watching
• 22:10
  that
• 22:10
  has
• 22:10
  really
• 22:11
  contributed
• 22:11
  to
• 22:12
  its
• 22:12
  explosive
• 22:13
  growth
• 22:14
  is
• 22:14
  the
• 22:14
  pandemic.
• 22:15
  A
• 22:16
  lot
• 22:16
  of
• 22:16
  people
• 22:16
  discovered
• 22:18
  birds
• 22:19
  during
• 22:19
  the
• 22:20
  COVID
• 22:20
  lockdowns
• 22:21
  when
• 22:22
  they
• 22:22
  needed
• 22:23
  something
• 22:24
  to
• 22:24
  occupy
• 22:25
  them.
• 22:25
  You
• 22:25
  know,
• 22:26
  they
• 22:26
  could
• 22:26
  look
• 22:26
  at
• 22:26
  birds
• 22:26
  in
• 22:27
  their
• 22:27
  backyard
• 22:28
  birding.
• 22:30
  But
• 22:30
  we
• 22:31
  continued
• 22:32
  after
• 22:32
  a
• 22:32
  short
• 22:33
  period
• 22:34
  of
• 22:34
  not
• 22:34
  leading
• 22:35
  our
• 22:35
  walks,
• 22:36
  we
• 22:36
  continued
• 22:38
  leading
• 22:39
  our
• 22:39
  walks
• 22:39
  because
• 22:40
  outdoor
• 22:40
  activities
• 22:41
  are
• 22:41
  safer
• 22:42
  or
• 22:43
  were
• 22:43
  safer
• 22:44
  during
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  lockdown.
• 22:46
  And
• 22:46
  we
• 22:47
  had
• 22:47
  just
• 22:48
  an
• 22:48
  explosion
• 22:49
  of
• 22:49
  people
• 22:50
  interested
• 22:51
  in
• 22:51
  going
• 22:51
  on
• 22:52
  our
• 22:52
  walks
• 22:52
  because,
• 22:53
  you
• 22:54
  know,
• 22:54
  when.
• 22:54
  When
• 22:54
  you're
• 22:55
  stressed
• 22:55
  and
• 22:57
  anxious
• 22:58
  and,
• 23:00
  you
• 23:00
  know,
• 23:00
  too
• 23:01
  focused
• 23:01
  on
• 23:02
  problems
• 23:03
  in
• 23:03
  the
• 23:03
  world,
• 23:03
  there's
• 23:04
  nothing
• 23:04
  that
• 23:05
  takes
• 23:05
  you
• 23:05
  out
• 23:05
  of
• 23:06
  it
• 23:06
  quite
• 23:06
  like
• 23:07
  being
• 23:08
  out
• 23:08
  in.
• 23:09
  In
• 23:09
  a
• 23:09
  natural
• 23:10
  setting
• 23:10
  and
• 23:11
  looking
• 23:12
  intently
• 23:12
  for
• 23:13
  something
• 23:13
  else.
• 23:14
  And
• 23:15
  being
• 23:16
  with
• 23:16
  other
• 23:16
  people
• 23:17
  with
• 23:17
  similar
• 23:17
  interests
• 23:18
  is
• 23:19
  also
• 23:19
  very,
• 23:22
  very
• 23:23
  soul
• 23:24
  soothing.
• 23:27
  But
• 23:27
  yes,
• 23:27
  I
• 23:28
  have
• 23:28
  seen
• 23:28
  similar
• 23:29
  videos
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  they
• 23:30
  are
• 23:30
  hysterical.
• 23:31
  And
• 23:32
  it
• 23:33
  just
• 23:33
  goes
• 23:33
  to
• 23:34
  show
• 23:34
  you,
• 23:36
  one
• 23:36
  of
• 23:36
  the
• 23:36
  appeals
• 23:37
  of
• 23:37
  birding,
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  think
• 23:38
  for
• 23:38
  me
• 23:39
  is
• 23:39
  that,
• 23:41
  you
• 23:41
  know,
• 23:42
  birds
• 23:42
  are
• 23:42
  so
• 23:43
  different
• 23:44
  and
• 23:44
  all
• 23:44
  of
• 23:44
  those
• 23:45
  birds
• 23:45
  have
• 23:45
  a
• 23:46
  very
• 23:46
  different
• 23:48
  style
• 23:48
  of
• 23:49
  attracting
• 23:49
  Mates
• 23:50
  and
• 23:50
  their
• 23:50
  feathers
• 23:51
  are
• 23:51
  different
• 23:52
  and
• 23:52
  their
• 23:52
  body
• 23:52
  shapes
• 23:53
  are
• 23:53
  different
• 23:54
  and
• 23:54
  their
• 23:54
  habits
• 23:55
  are
• 23:55
  different.
• 23:56
  So
• 23:57
  it's,
• 23:58
  there's
• 23:58
  always
• 23:58
  something
• 23:59
  to
• 23:59
  learn,
• 23:59
  always
• 24:00
  something
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  appreciate.
• 24:02
  You
• 24:02
  know,
• 24:02
  on
• 24:02
  this
• 24:02
  podcast
• 24:03
  you
• 24:04
  mentioned
• 24:04
  something
• 24:04
  earlier.
• 24:04
  I
• 24:05
  didn't
• 24:05
  mean
• 24:05
  to
• 24:05
  interrupt,
• 24:06
  I'm
• 24:06
  sorry.
• 24:06
  But
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  did
• 24:07
  mention
• 24:08
  something
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  I
• 24:08
  found
• 24:09
  interesting,
• 24:09
  which
• 24:09
  was
• 24:10
  that
• 24:12
  we
• 24:12
  don't
• 24:12
  necessarily
• 24:13
  see
• 24:14
  all
• 24:14
  the
• 24:14
  birds
• 24:14
  that
• 24:15
  are
• 24:15
  out
• 24:15
  there.
• 24:15
  Like
• 24:15
  you
• 24:16
  mentioned
• 24:16
  earlier,
• 24:16
  like
• 24:17
  more
• 24:17
  than
• 24:18
  100
• 24:18
  different
• 24:18
  types
• 24:19
  of
• 24:19
  birds
• 24:20
  in
• 24:20
  Balboa
• 24:21
  Park.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:23
  I
• 24:23
  think
• 24:23
  part
• 24:24
  of
• 24:24
  it
• 24:24
  might
• 24:25
  be
• 24:25
  the
• 24:25
  focus
• 24:26
  that
• 24:27
  we
• 24:27
  don't
• 24:27
  see
• 24:28
  them
• 24:28
  unless
• 24:28
  we're
• 24:28
  looking
• 24:29
  for
• 24:29
  them
• 24:29
  with
• 24:29
  the
• 24:29
  binoculars
• 24:30
  and
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  awareness
• 24:32
  and
• 24:32
  maybe
• 24:32
  a
• 24:33
  bird.
• 24:34
  And
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  think
• 24:34
  that
• 24:35
  might
• 24:35
  be
• 24:35
  part
• 24:35
  of
• 24:36
  the
• 24:36
  appeal
• 24:36
  is
• 24:36
  like
• 24:37
  people
• 24:38
  learn
• 24:39
  to
• 24:40
  expose
• 24:40
  themselves
• 24:41
  to
• 24:41
  something
• 24:41
  that
• 24:41
  they
• 24:41
  never
• 24:42
  knew
• 24:42
  was
• 24:42
  there
• 24:42
  before.
• 24:44
  Exactly.
• 24:45
  I
• 24:45
  think
• 24:45
  that
• 24:46
  has
• 24:46
  been
• 24:47
  my
• 24:47
  experience
• 24:48
  that
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  think
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  mentioned
• 24:51
  before
• 24:51
  that
• 24:51
  when
• 24:52
  I
• 24:52
  was
• 24:52
  growing
• 24:53
  up,
• 24:53
  I
• 24:53
  thought
• 24:53
  the
• 24:54
  only
• 24:54
  birds
• 24:54
  we
• 24:54
  had
• 24:55
  in
• 24:55
  Los
• 24:55
  Angeles
• 24:55
  were
• 24:56
  sparrows
• 24:56
  and
• 24:57
  blackbirds.
• 24:58
  And
• 24:59
  it
• 24:59
  was
• 24:59
  a
• 24:59
  complete
• 25:00
  shock
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  me
• 25:01
  when
• 25:01
  I
• 25:01
  got
• 25:01
  my
• 25:01
  first
• 25:01
  pair
• 25:02
  of
• 25:02
  binoculars
• 25:02
  and
• 25:03
  started
• 25:03
  looking
• 25:03
  at
• 25:03
  those
• 25:04
  sparrows,
• 25:04
  that
• 25:05
  they
• 25:05
  weren't,
• 25:06
  they
• 25:06
  weren't
• 25:06
  all
• 25:06
  sparrows.
• 25:07
  Some
• 25:07
  of
• 25:07
  them
• 25:08
  were
• 25:08
  warblers,
• 25:09
  some
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  them
• 25:10
  were
• 25:10
  cedar
• 25:10
  waxwings,
• 25:11
  some
• 25:11
  of
• 25:12
  them
• 25:12
  were,
• 25:12
  you
• 25:13
  know,
• 25:13
  some
• 25:13
  of
• 25:13
  them
• 25:14
  had
• 25:14
  beautiful
• 25:14
  bright
• 25:15
  colors.
• 25:17
  And
• 25:19
  I
• 25:20
  want
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  also
• 25:20
  mention
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  importance
• 25:24
  of
• 25:25
  hearing
• 25:25
  the
• 25:25
  birds
• 25:26
  and
• 25:28
  real
• 25:28
  using
• 25:29
  that
• 25:29
  clue
• 25:30
  to,
• 25:31
  you
• 25:31
  know,
• 25:31
  to
• 25:31
  focus
• 25:32
  in
• 25:32
  on
• 25:32
  where
• 25:32
  the
• 25:32
  birds
• 25:33
  are
• 25:33
  and
• 25:33
  look
• 25:34
  at
• 25:34
  them
• 25:34
  with
• 25:34
  your
• 25:34
  binoculars.
• 25:35
  And
• 25:35
  there
• 25:36
  is
• 25:36
  one
• 25:36
  tool,
• 25:37
  a
• 25:37
  new
• 25:37
  tool
• 25:38
  that's
• 25:39
  only
• 25:39
  been
• 25:39
  around
• 25:39
  for
• 25:40
  a
• 25:40
  few
• 25:40
  years
• 25:40
  now
• 25:41
  that
• 25:41
  is
• 25:42
  revolutionizing
• 25:44
  bird
• 25:44
  watching
• 25:45
  for,
• 25:46
  you
• 25:46
  know,
• 25:47
  your
• 25:47
  average
• 25:47
  birder.
• 25:48
  And
• 25:48
  that
• 25:48
  is
• 25:49
  an
• 25:49
  app,
• 25:49
  an
• 25:50
  iPhone,
• 25:51
  a
• 25:51
  phone
• 25:52
  app,
• 25:53
  smartphone
• 25:53
  app
• 25:54
  called
• 25:54
  Merlin
• 25:55
  M
• 25:55
  E
• 25:55
  R
• 25:56
  L
• 25:56
  I
• 25:56
  N
• 25:58
  and
• 25:58
  it's
• 25:58
  put
• 25:59
  out
• 25:59
  by
• 25:59
  the
• 25:59
  Cornell
• 26:00
  Laboratory
• 26:00
  of
• 26:01
  Ornithology
• 26:02
  and
• 26:02
  it's
• 26:02
  free
• 26:03
  to
• 26:03
  download.
• 26:04
  And
• 26:05
  it's
• 26:05
  a
• 26:06
  bird
• 26:06
  identification
• 26:07
  and
• 26:08
  education
• 26:08
  tool.
• 26:10
  And
• 26:10
  you
• 26:11
  know,
• 26:11
  you
• 26:11
  can
• 26:11
  use
• 26:11
  it
• 26:12
  to
• 26:12
  help
• 26:12
  you
• 26:12
  identify
• 26:12
  the
• 26:13
  bird
• 26:13
  by
• 26:13
  sight.
• 26:14
  But
• 26:14
  what's
• 26:14
  really
• 26:15
  revolutionary
• 26:16
  is
• 26:16
  that
• 26:17
  it
• 26:17
  has
• 26:18
  like
• 26:18
  a
• 26:18
  built
• 26:18
  in
• 26:19
  algorithm
• 26:20
  that
• 26:20
  if
• 26:21
  you
• 26:21
  just
• 26:21
  hold
• 26:21
  your
• 26:21
  phone
• 26:22
  out
• 26:23
  while
• 26:23
  a
• 26:23
  bird
• 26:24
  is
• 26:24
  singing,
• 26:24
  it
• 26:25
  will
• 26:25
  tell
• 26:25
  you
• 26:25
  what
• 26:26
  bird
• 26:26
  is
• 26:26
  singing.
• 26:27
  Wow.
• 26:28
  It's
• 26:29
  like
• 26:29
  Shazam
• 26:29
  for
• 26:30
  birds.
• 26:30
  It's
• 26:31
  Shazam
• 26:31
  for
• 26:32
  birds.
• 26:33
  Exactly.
• 26:38
  You
• 26:38
  know,
• 26:38
  when
• 26:39
  I,
• 26:39
  when
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  first
• 26:39
  started
• 26:40
  birding,
• 26:41
  many,
• 26:41
  many,
• 26:41
  many
• 26:42
  years
• 26:42
  ago,
• 26:42
  I
• 26:42
  would
• 26:43
  get
• 26:43
  so
• 26:43
  frustrated
• 26:44
  that
• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  would
• 26:45
  hear
• 26:45
  a
• 26:45
  bird
• 26:45
  and
• 26:45
  I'd
• 26:46
  say,
• 26:46
  I
• 26:46
  know
• 26:46
  that's
• 26:47
  something
• 26:47
  I
• 26:47
  haven't
• 26:47
  heard
• 26:48
  before,
• 26:48
  but
• 26:48
  I
• 26:48
  don't
• 26:49
  know
• 26:49
  what
• 26:49
  it
• 26:49
  is
• 26:49
  and
• 26:49
  I
• 26:49
  can't
• 26:50
  find
• 26:50
  it.
• 26:51
  And
• 26:51
  now,
• 26:52
  you
• 26:53
  know,
• 26:53
  I
• 26:53
  just
• 26:53
  hold
• 26:53
  my
• 26:53
  phone
• 26:54
  up
• 26:54
  and
• 26:54
  it
• 26:54
  tells
• 26:55
  me
• 26:55
  what
• 26:55
  that
• 26:55
  bird
• 26:56
  is
• 26:56
  and
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  know.
• 26:57
  Oh
• 26:57
  well,
• 26:58
  that's
• 26:58
  something
• 26:59
  I
• 27:00
  would
• 27:00
  really
• 27:00
  like
• 27:01
  to
• 27:01
  see.
• 27:02
  And
• 27:02
  it's
• 27:02
  helped
• 27:02
  me
• 27:03
  learn
• 27:03
  the
• 27:03
  bird
• 27:03
  calls
• 27:05
  so
• 27:05
  that
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  can,
• 27:05
  super
• 27:06
  cool,
• 27:06
  I
• 27:07
  can
• 27:07
  walk
• 27:07
  through
• 27:07
  a
• 27:07
  park
• 27:08
  and
• 27:08
  you
• 27:09
  know,
• 27:09
  identify
• 27:10
  most
• 27:10
  of
• 27:10
  the
• 27:10
  common
• 27:10
  birds
• 27:11
  in
• 27:11
  there
• 27:11
  by,
• 27:12
  by
• 27:12
  ear
• 27:12
  alone.
• 27:14
  I,
• 27:15
  I,
• 27:15
  I
• 27:16
  was
• 27:16
  going
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  mention
• 27:16
  Balboa
• 27:17
  park
• 27:17
  because
• 27:18
  I've,
• 27:18
  I've
• 27:19
  seen
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  number
• 27:19
  of
• 27:19
  birders
• 27:20
  walking
• 27:21
  around
• 27:21
  the
• 27:21
  park
• 27:22
  doing
• 27:22
  their
• 27:22
  thing,
• 27:23
  but
• 27:24
  just
• 27:24
  a
• 27:24
  little
• 27:24
  sharp
• 27:25
  turn
• 27:25
  here.
• 27:25
  I,
• 27:26
  I
• 27:26
  think
• 27:26
  birds
• 27:27
  have
• 27:27
  been
• 27:27
  on
• 27:27
  the
• 27:28
  pejorative
• 27:28
  end
• 27:28
  of
• 27:29
  some
• 27:29
  conversations.
• 27:30
  We've
• 27:30
  heard
• 27:30
  of
• 27:30
  terms
• 27:31
  like
• 27:31
  bird
• 27:31
  brain
• 27:32
  and,
• 27:33
  and
• 27:33
  things
• 27:33
  like
• 27:34
  that
• 27:34
  birds
• 27:34
  have
• 27:35
  small
• 27:35
  brains
• 27:36
  and,
• 27:36
  and,
• 27:37
  but
• 27:37
  that
• 27:37
  doesn't
• 27:37
  mean
• 27:38
  that
• 27:38
  they
• 27:38
  don't
• 27:38
  have
• 27:39
  cognitive,
• 27:40
  you
• 27:40
  know,
• 27:42
  awareness
• 27:42
  in
• 27:43
  some
• 27:43
  way.
• 27:43
  I'm
• 27:43
  kind
• 27:43
  of
• 27:44
  curious
• 27:44
  about
• 27:44
  that.
• 27:45
  And
• 27:45
  also
• 27:46
  the
• 27:46
  sort
• 27:47
  of
• 27:47
  connection
• 27:47
  to
• 27:48
  their
• 27:48
  relatives,
• 27:49
  the
• 27:49
  dinosaurs
• 27:50
  could
• 27:51
  go
• 27:51
  on
• 27:51
  those
• 27:51
  two
• 27:52
  things
• 27:52
  for
• 27:52
  me.
• 27:53
  Sure.
• 27:53
  Well,
• 27:54
  I
• 27:54
  think
• 27:54
  first,
• 27:54
  as
• 27:55
  far
• 27:55
  as
• 27:55
  birds
• 27:55
  cognitive
• 27:56
  abilities,
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  think
• 27:58
  it's
• 27:58
  important
• 27:58
  to
• 27:59
  remember
• 27:59
  that
• 27:59
  we
• 27:59
  can't
• 28:01
  judge
• 28:01
  their
• 28:01
  cognitive
• 28:02
  abilities
• 28:03
  on
• 28:03
  the
• 28:03
  same
• 28:03
  scale
• 28:04
  and
• 28:04
  by
• 28:04
  the
• 28:05
  same
• 28:05
  criteria
• 28:05
  that
• 28:06
  we
• 28:07
  would
• 28:07
  judge
• 28:07
  our
• 28:07
  own.
• 28:08
  After
• 28:09
  all,
• 28:10
  however
• 28:10
  smart
• 28:11
  they
• 28:11
  may
• 28:11
  be,
• 28:11
  however
• 28:12
  tiny
• 28:12
  their
• 28:12
  brains
• 28:13
  are,
• 28:13
  they're
• 28:13
  smart
• 28:14
  enough
• 28:14
  to
• 28:14
  have
• 28:14
  survived
• 28:15
  for
• 28:15
  millions
• 28:15
  of
• 28:16
  years.
• 28:17
  So
• 28:18
  obviously
• 28:19
  they
• 28:19
  know
• 28:19
  what
• 28:19
  they're
• 28:20
  doing.
• 28:22
  But
• 28:23
  in
• 28:24
  particular,
• 28:27
  birds
• 28:28
  brains
• 28:29
  physically
• 28:29
  are
• 28:30
  organized
• 28:31
  differently,
• 28:32
  structured
• 28:33
  differently
• 28:34
  than
• 28:34
  ours.
• 28:34
  So
• 28:35
  you
• 28:35
  can't
• 28:35
  say
• 28:35
  oh,
• 28:35
  because
• 28:36
  their
• 28:36
  brain
• 28:36
  is
• 28:36
  so
• 28:36
  much
• 28:37
  smaller,
• 28:37
  they
• 28:38
  are
• 28:38
  so
• 28:38
  much
• 28:38
  less
• 28:39
  intelligent.
• 28:40
  They
• 28:40
  actually,
• 28:40
  I
• 28:41
  believe
• 28:41
  have,
• 28:43
  I'm
• 28:43
  not
• 28:43
  an
• 28:44
  authority
• 28:44
  on
• 28:44
  this,
• 28:44
  but
• 28:44
  I
• 28:45
  believe
• 28:45
  they
• 28:45
  have
• 28:45
  more
• 28:46
  neurons
• 28:47
  per
• 28:47
  volume
• 28:48
  than
• 28:49
  we
• 28:49
  do,
• 28:50
  than
• 28:50
  our
• 28:50
  brains
• 28:51
  do.
• 28:51
  So
• 28:52
  they
• 28:52
  have
• 28:52
  like
• 28:52
  more
• 28:53
  connections
• 28:53
  going
• 28:54
  on
• 28:54
  in
• 28:54
  a
• 28:54
  smaller
• 28:55
  space.
• 28:56
  And
• 28:57
  there
• 28:57
  are
• 28:57
  some
• 28:58
  groups
• 28:59
  of
• 28:59
  birds
• 29:01
  whose
• 29:01
  cognitive
• 29:02
  ability
• 29:04
  is
• 29:05
  roughly
• 29:05
  equivalent
• 29:06
  to
• 29:07
  primates,
• 29:08
  chimps
• 29:08
  and
• 29:09
  apes
• 29:09
  and
• 29:10
  also
• 29:10
  to
• 29:11
  very
• 29:11
  young
• 29:12
  children,
• 29:12
  like
• 29:12
  two
• 29:13
  to
• 29:13
  three
• 29:13
  year
• 29:13
  old
• 29:13
  children,
• 29:14
  children.
• 29:14
  So
• 29:15
  they,
• 29:15
  you
• 29:15
  know,
• 29:15
  they
• 29:15
  can,
• 29:16
  crows
• 29:16
  can
• 29:17
  count.
• 29:18
  You
• 29:18
  know,
• 29:18
  if
• 29:18
  five
• 29:19
  people
• 29:19
  go
• 29:20
  into
• 29:20
  a
• 29:20
  blind
• 29:21
  and
• 29:22
  three
• 29:22
  come
• 29:23
  out,
• 29:23
  the
• 29:24
  crows
• 29:24
  know
• 29:25
  there's
• 29:25
  still
• 29:25
  two
• 29:26
  people
• 29:26
  in
• 29:26
  there.
• 29:28
  I'm,
• 29:28
  you
• 29:28
  know,
• 29:28
  it's
• 29:29
  still
• 29:29
  not
• 29:29
  safe
• 29:30
  for
• 29:30
  me
• 29:30
  to
• 29:30
  do
• 29:30
  what
• 29:31
  I
• 29:31
  want
• 29:31
  to
• 29:31
  do,
• 29:33
  you
• 29:33
  know,
• 29:33
  I
• 29:33
  know
• 29:34
  some
• 29:34
  brain
• 29:34
  now,
• 29:35
  huh?
• 29:35
  I
• 29:35
  know,
• 29:35
  right?
• 29:35
  I
• 29:36
  was
• 29:36
  going
• 29:36
  to
• 29:36
  say
• 29:36
  I
• 29:36
  know
• 29:37
  some
• 29:37
  humans
• 29:37
  who
• 29:38
  have,
• 29:38
  you
• 29:38
  know,
• 29:38
  we
• 29:39
  have
• 29:39
  big
• 29:39
  brains
• 29:39
  and
• 29:40
  none
• 29:40
  of
• 29:40
  those
• 29:40
  neurons
• 29:41
  are
• 29:41
  firing.
• 29:41
  Okay.
• 29:42
  So
• 29:43
  if
• 29:44
  you've
• 29:44
  got,
• 29:45
  you
• 29:45
  know,
• 29:45
  if
• 29:46
  you've
• 29:46
  got
• 29:46
  a
• 29:46
  bird
• 29:47
  with
• 29:47
  a
• 29:48
  tiny
• 29:48
  brain,
• 29:48
  but
• 29:48
  the
• 29:49
  whole
• 29:49
  brain
• 29:49
  is
• 29:49
  being
• 29:50
  used,
• 29:50
  you
• 29:50
  know,
• 29:51
  it's
• 29:51
  all
• 29:51
  relative.
• 29:53
  So
• 29:53
  yes,
• 29:54
  the,
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  crows
• 29:55
  and
• 29:55
  ravens
• 29:56
  and
• 29:56
  jays
• 29:57
  and
• 29:58
  the
• 29:58
  parrots
• 29:58
  are
• 29:59
  well
• 29:59
  known
• 29:59
  for
• 30:00
  being
• 30:00
  extremely
• 30:01
  intelligent.
• 30:02
  Yeah.
• 30:03
  And
• 30:04
  there's
• 30:05
  Some
• 30:05
  parents.
• 30:06
  My
• 30:06
  mom
• 30:07
  had
• 30:07
  an
• 30:07
  African
• 30:07
  gray
• 30:08
  for
• 30:08
  many,
• 30:09
  many,
• 30:09
  many
• 30:09
  years
• 30:09
  and
• 30:10
  he
• 30:10
  was
• 30:11
  just
• 30:12
  super
• 30:13
  smart,
• 30:14
  super
• 30:14
  smart
• 30:15
  bird.
• 30:16
  And,
• 30:17
  and,
• 30:18
  and
• 30:18
  as
• 30:19
  for
• 30:19
  the
• 30:19
  dinosaur
• 30:20
  question,
• 30:20
  it
• 30:21
  is,
• 30:21
  yeah,
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  think
• 30:22
  there
• 30:23
  is
• 30:23
  very,
• 30:23
  very
• 30:24
  little
• 30:24
  doubt
• 30:25
  now
• 30:25
  that
• 30:26
  birds
• 30:26
  are
• 30:28
  dinosaurs.
• 30:29
  They
• 30:29
  are
• 30:30
  the
• 30:30
  surviving
• 30:31
  line.
• 30:32
  Dinosaurs
• 30:33
  didn't
• 30:33
  go
• 30:33
  extinct.
• 30:34
  They
• 30:35
  survived
• 30:35
  in
• 30:36
  birds.
• 30:38
  So
• 30:40
  that
• 30:40
  is
• 30:40
  another
• 30:41
  thought
• 30:41
  that
• 30:41
  just
• 30:42
  charms
• 30:42
  me.
• 30:43
  You
• 30:43
  know,
• 30:43
  as,
• 30:44
  as
• 30:44
  fascinated
• 30:45
  as
• 30:45
  we
• 30:45
  all
• 30:45
  were
• 30:46
  with
• 30:46
  dinosaurs
• 30:46
  when
• 30:47
  we
• 30:47
  were
• 30:47
  little
• 30:47
  kids,
• 30:48
  the
• 30:49
  idea
• 30:49
  that
• 30:50
  now
• 30:50
  we're
• 30:50
  going
• 30:50
  out
• 30:51
  and
• 30:51
  watching
• 30:52
  dinosaurs
• 30:53
  flying
• 30:53
  around
• 30:53
  and
• 30:54
  their,
• 30:54
  you
• 30:54
  know,
• 30:55
  beautiful
• 30:56
  bright
• 30:56
  feathers
• 30:57
  and
• 30:57
  it's
• 30:58
  just,
• 30:58
  it
• 30:59
  thrills
• 30:59
  me.
• 31:00
  Well,
• 31:01
  I
• 31:01
  can't
• 31:01
  let
• 31:01
  you
• 31:02
  leave.
• 31:02
  I
• 31:02
  can't.
• 31:02
  Wait,
• 31:03
  wait.
• 31:03
  I
• 31:04
  can't
• 31:04
  let
• 31:04
  you
• 31:04
  leave
• 31:04
  without
• 31:04
  talking
• 31:05
  about
• 31:05
  the
• 31:05
  feathers
• 31:05
  on
• 31:06
  dinosaurs.
• 31:06
  As
• 31:06
  some
• 31:07
  have
• 31:07
  noted.
• 31:08
  Yes,
• 31:09
  that
• 31:10
  as
• 31:11
  has
• 31:12
  been
• 31:14
  discovered
• 31:15
  in
• 31:16
  more
• 31:16
  than
• 31:16
  one
• 31:17
  fossils,
• 31:17
  many,
• 31:18
  many
• 31:18
  dinosaurs
• 31:19
  had
• 31:20
  feathers.
• 31:21
  Now
• 31:21
  the
• 31:21
  feathers
• 31:22
  were
• 31:22
  probably
• 31:24
  initially
• 31:25
  for
• 31:26
  insulation,
• 31:27
  you
• 31:28
  know,
• 31:28
  for
• 31:28
  thermoregulation,
• 31:29
  because
• 31:29
  feathers
• 31:30
  are
• 31:31
  absolutely
• 31:32
  phenomenal
• 31:33
  insulator
• 31:34
  as,
• 31:35
  as
• 31:35
  we
• 31:35
  know
• 31:36
  from
• 31:36
  down
• 31:36
  jackets
• 31:37
  and
• 31:37
  down
• 31:37
  sleeping
• 31:38
  bags.
• 31:40
  And
• 31:40
  then
• 31:40
  eventually
• 31:41
  they
• 31:41
  evolved
• 31:42
  to
• 31:42
  be
• 31:43
  used
• 31:43
  in
• 31:43
  flight.
• 31:44
  I
• 31:44
  want
• 31:44
  to
• 31:44
  bring
• 31:44
  it
• 31:44
  back
• 31:45
  around
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  what
• 31:46
  we
• 31:46
  can
• 31:46
  do
• 31:46
  to
• 31:47
  support
• 31:47
  the
• 31:47
  birds
• 31:48
  and
• 31:48
  the
• 31:48
  population
• 31:50
  of
• 31:51
  our
• 31:51
  animals
• 31:52
  out
• 31:52
  in
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  field
• 31:52
  there.
• 31:53
  But
• 31:53
  I
• 31:54
  know
• 31:54
  that
• 31:55
  as
• 31:56
  Elsa
• 31:57
  and
• 31:57
  I
• 31:57
  are
• 31:57
  both
• 31:57
  cat
• 31:58
  owners,
• 31:59
  there
• 31:59
  is
• 31:59
  one
• 32:00
  thing
• 32:00
  that
• 32:00
  needs
• 32:00
  to
• 32:01
  be
• 32:01
  brought
• 32:01
  up
• 32:01
  about
• 32:02
  what
• 32:02
  we
• 32:02
  can
• 32:02
  do
• 32:02
  to
• 32:03
  help
• 32:03
  birds.
• 32:04
  You
• 32:04
  want,
• 32:04
  you
• 32:05
  want
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  mention
• 32:06
  that?
• 32:06
  Oh,
• 32:07
  yes,
• 32:08
  the
• 32:10
  studies
• 32:10
  have
• 32:10
  been
• 32:11
  done
• 32:11
  and
• 32:13
  one
• 32:13
  of
• 32:14
  their,
• 32:16
  one
• 32:16
  of
• 32:16
  the
• 32:17
  most
• 32:17
  important
• 32:18
  things
• 32:18
  that
• 32:18
  we
• 32:19
  can
• 32:19
  do
• 32:19
  as
• 32:19
  cat
• 32:20
  owners,
• 32:20
  I
• 32:20
  own
• 32:20
  a
• 32:20
  cat
• 32:21
  too,
• 32:22
  is
• 32:22
  to
• 32:22
  keep
• 32:22
  our
• 32:23
  cats
• 32:23
  indoors.
• 32:24
  Cats
• 32:25
  are
• 32:25
  a
• 32:26
  tremendous.
• 32:28
  They're
• 32:28
  very
• 32:28
  skilled
• 32:29
  predators
• 32:29
  and
• 32:30
  they
• 32:30
  love
• 32:30
  going
• 32:31
  after
• 32:32
  not
• 32:32
  just
• 32:32
  birds,
• 32:32
  but
• 32:33
  lizards,
• 32:34
  insects
• 32:35
  and
• 32:36
  anything
• 32:36
  else
• 32:37
  that's
• 32:37
  out
• 32:37
  there.
• 32:38
  And
• 32:38
  anything
• 32:39
  that
• 32:39
  moves,
• 32:39
  anything
• 32:40
  that
• 32:40
  is
• 32:41
  smaller
• 32:41
  than
• 32:41
  them.
• 32:42
  Yeah,
• 32:42
  they
• 32:42
  will,
• 32:43
  they
• 32:43
  will
• 32:43
  kill
• 32:43
  it.
• 32:43
  I
• 32:44
  mean,
• 32:44
  really,
• 32:44
  honestly,
• 32:45
  they
• 32:45
  will,
• 32:45
  they
• 32:46
  will
• 32:46
  kill
• 32:46
  it.
• 32:47
  Studies
• 32:47
  have
• 32:48
  been
• 32:48
  done
• 32:48
  and
• 32:48
  I
• 32:48
  don't
• 32:48
  have
• 32:48
  the
• 32:49
  numbers
• 32:49
  off
• 32:49
  the
• 32:49
  top
• 32:50
  of
• 32:50
  my
• 32:50
  head,
• 32:50
  but
• 32:51
  cats
• 32:52
  in
• 32:52
  the
• 32:52
  United
• 32:52
  States
• 32:53
  are
• 32:53
  responsible
• 32:54
  for
• 32:54
  every
• 32:54
  year
• 32:54
  for
• 32:55
  the
• 32:55
  death
• 32:55
  of
• 32:56
  millions
• 32:57
  of
• 32:57
  birds.
• 32:58
  And,
• 33:00
  and
• 33:00
  you
• 33:00
  know
• 33:00
  what?
• 33:00
  As
• 33:01
  a
• 33:01
  responsible
• 33:02
  pet
• 33:02
  owner,
• 33:03
  you
• 33:04
  don't
• 33:04
  want
• 33:04
  your
• 33:04
  cats
• 33:04
  wandering
• 33:05
  around
• 33:05
  outside
• 33:06
  anyway.
• 33:06
  You
• 33:07
  know,
• 33:07
  there
• 33:07
  are
• 33:08
  coyotes
• 33:08
  everywhere.
• 33:10
  I
• 33:10
  spoke
• 33:11
  to
• 33:11
  someone
• 33:11
  who
• 33:11
  was
• 33:11
  doing
• 33:12
  a
• 33:12
  coyote
• 33:13
  study
• 33:13
  and
• 33:14
  they
• 33:14
  were
• 33:14
  looking
• 33:14
  at
• 33:15
  coyote
• 33:16
  scat
• 33:17
  and
• 33:17
  they
• 33:17
  determined
• 33:18
  that
• 33:18
  it
• 33:18
  was
• 33:19
  largely
• 33:19
  made
• 33:20
  up
• 33:20
  of
• 33:21
  backyard,
• 33:22
  you
• 33:23
  know,
• 33:23
  fruit
• 33:23
  from
• 33:23
  backyard
• 33:24
  trees
• 33:24
  and
• 33:25
  dogs
• 33:25
  and
• 33:25
  cats.
• 33:27
  No,
• 33:28
  no,
• 33:28
  it's
• 33:29
  absolutely.
• 33:30
  A
• 33:30
  cat's
• 33:31
  lifespan
• 33:31
  is
• 33:32
  dramatically
• 33:33
  decreased
• 33:34
  if
• 33:34
  they're
• 33:35
  outdoors.
• 33:35
  They,
• 33:36
  they
• 33:36
  just
• 33:36
  shouldn't
• 33:36
  be
• 33:37
  outdoors
• 33:37
  at
• 33:38
  all
• 33:38
  like
• 33:38
  that.
• 33:38
  They
• 33:38
  should
• 33:39
  not.
• 33:39
  And
• 33:39
  there
• 33:39
  are
• 33:40
  alternatives.
• 33:41
  I
• 33:42
  would
• 33:42
  urge
• 33:43
  your
• 33:43
  listeners
• 33:44
  to
• 33:44
  look
• 33:44
  into
• 33:45
  catios.
• 33:46
  I
• 33:46
  don't
• 33:46
  know
• 33:46
  if
• 33:46
  you've
• 33:47
  heard
• 33:47
  that,
• 33:48
  that
• 33:48
  new
• 33:48
  word,
• 33:49
  but
• 33:50
  they're
• 33:51
  outdoor
• 33:52
  enclosures
• 33:53
  that
• 33:54
  allow
• 33:54
  your
• 33:55
  cat
• 33:55
  to
• 33:55
  be
• 33:55
  outdoors
• 33:56
  and
• 33:57
  to
• 33:57
  enjoy
• 33:57
  the
• 33:58
  sun
• 33:59
  and
• 33:59
  the
• 33:59
  breeze
• 34:00
  and
• 34:00
  to
• 34:00
  watch
• 34:01
  birds
• 34:02
  safely
• 34:04
  and
• 34:05
  protect
• 34:05
  them
• 34:06
  as
• 34:06
  well
• 34:06
  from
• 34:06
  predation.
• 34:07
  Yeah,
• 34:08
  my
• 34:08
  old
• 34:08
  veterinarian,
• 34:09
  I
• 34:09
  was
• 34:10
  going
• 34:10
  to
• 34:10
  just
• 34:10
  really
• 34:10
  quickly
• 34:11
  add
• 34:11
  that
• 34:11
  to
• 34:12
  drive
• 34:12
  this
• 34:12
  point
• 34:12
  home.
• 34:13
  My
• 34:13
  former
• 34:14
  veterinarian,
• 34:15
  when
• 34:15
  I
• 34:15
  lived
• 34:15
  in
• 34:16
  Texas,
• 34:16
  on
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  marquee,
• 34:17
  he
• 34:18
  put
• 34:18
  up
• 34:19
  bird
• 34:19
  feeder
• 34:20
  equals
• 34:20
  cat
• 34:21
  feeder
• 34:23
  if
• 34:24
  your
• 34:24
  cats
• 34:24
  are
• 34:24
  outside.
• 34:25
  So,
• 34:26
  I
• 34:26
  mean,
• 34:27
  they
• 34:27
  made
• 34:27
  sure
• 34:27
  that
• 34:28
  they
• 34:28
  let
• 34:28
  people
• 34:28
  know
• 34:29
  you're
• 34:30
  feeding
• 34:30
  your
• 34:30
  cats
• 34:31
  if
• 34:31
  you
• 34:31
  put
• 34:31
  one
• 34:31
  of
• 34:31
  these
• 34:31
  out
• 34:32
  here
• 34:32
  and
• 34:32
  your
• 34:32
  cats
• 34:32
  are
• 34:32
  outdoors.
• 34:33
  Yeah,
• 34:34
  that
• 34:35
  is
• 34:35
  true.
• 34:35
  Well,
• 34:35
  I
• 34:35
  just
• 34:36
  wanted
• 34:36
  to
• 34:36
  give
• 34:36
  you
• 34:36
  an
• 34:36
  opportunity
• 34:37
  to
• 34:37
  put
• 34:37
  out
• 34:38
  your
• 34:38
  website
• 34:38
  and
• 34:39
  let
• 34:39
  everybody
• 34:40
  know
• 34:41
  exactly
• 34:41
  how
• 34:42
  they
• 34:42
  can
• 34:42
  learn
• 34:42
  more
• 34:43
  and
• 34:43
  reach
• 34:43
  out
• 34:44
  to
• 34:44
  your
• 34:44
  chapter
• 34:44
  of
• 34:45
  the
• 34:45
  Audubon
• 34:45
  Society.
• 34:46
  Yes.
• 34:46
  Our
• 34:47
  website
• 34:48
  is
• 34:48
  sfvaudubon.org
• 34:53
  and
• 34:53
  if
• 34:54
  you
• 34:54
  go
• 34:54
  there,
• 34:54
  you
• 34:55
  will
• 34:55
  find
• 34:55
  our
• 34:56
  schedule,
• 34:56
  events
• 34:57
  of
• 34:57
  events.
• 34:58
  We
• 34:58
  have
• 34:58
  walks
• 34:59
  all
• 34:59
  over
• 34:59
  the
• 35:00
  San
• 35:00
  Fernando
• 35:01
  Valley.
• 35:01
  And
• 35:02
  what
• 35:02
  that
• 35:02
  means
• 35:03
  is
• 35:03
  that,
• 35:04
  you
• 35:04
  know,
• 35:04
  one
• 35:05
  of
• 35:05
  our
• 35:05
  members
• 35:06
  acts
• 35:06
  as
• 35:06
  a
• 35:06
  guide
• 35:07
  and
• 35:07
  takes
• 35:07
  people
• 35:07
  around
• 35:08
  and
• 35:08
  helps
• 35:09
  identify
• 35:09
  the
• 35:09
  birds.
• 35:10
  And.
• 35:12
  And
• 35:12
  we
• 35:12
  have
• 35:12
  these
• 35:13
  at
• 35:13
  least
• 35:14
  five
• 35:14
  or
• 35:14
  six
• 35:15
  walks
• 35:16
  a
• 35:16
  month.
• 35:17
  We
• 35:17
  also
• 35:18
  have
• 35:20
  a
• 35:20
  regular
• 35:22
  monthly
• 35:22
  bird
• 35:23
  sit
• 35:23
  with
• 35:23
  nature
• 35:24
  journaling
• 35:25
  that's
• 35:25
  very
• 35:26
  popular.
• 35:29
  So
• 35:29
  check
• 35:29
  out
• 35:29
  our
• 35:29
  website
• 35:30
  for
• 35:30
  our
• 35:30
  events.
• 35:31
  Check
• 35:31
  out
• 35:31
  our
• 35:32
  website
• 35:32
  for
• 35:33
  information
• 35:34
  about
• 35:35
  attracting
• 35:36
  birds
• 35:36
  to
• 35:36
  your
• 35:37
  yard.
• 35:39
  Identification
• 35:40
  of
• 35:40
  common
• 35:40
  backyard
• 35:41
  birds,
• 35:44
  newsworthy
• 35:45
  items,
• 35:46
  things
• 35:46
  that
• 35:46
  we're
• 35:47
  working
• 35:47
  on
• 35:48
  in
• 35:48
  terms
• 35:49
  of
• 35:50
  trying
• 35:50
  to
• 35:50
  influence
• 35:51
  legislation
• 35:52
  or
• 35:52
  local
• 35:53
  policy.
• 35:54
  It's
• 35:54
  a
• 35:54
  new
• 35:55
  website
• 35:55
  and
• 35:55
  we're
• 35:56
  very
• 35:56
  proud
• 35:56
  of
• 35:56
  it.
• 35:56
  We
• 35:57
  have,
• 35:57
  as
• 35:57
  they
• 35:58
  say,
• 35:59
  a
• 35:59
  bird
• 36:00
  in
• 36:00
  the
• 36:00
  hand.
• 36:07
  Yeah,
• 36:07
  we
• 36:07
  are.
• 36:08
  Kathy
• 36:08
  Barton,
• 36:08
  thanks
• 36:09
  so
• 36:09
  much.
• 36:09
  Really
• 36:10
  appreciate
• 36:10
  you
• 36:11
  and,
• 36:11
  and
• 36:11
  your
• 36:12
  information.
• 36:13
  Thank
• 36:14
  you
• 36:14
  so
• 36:14
  much
• 36:14
  for
• 36:15
  giving
• 36:16
  me
• 36:16
  the
• 36:16
  opportunity
• 36:17
  to
• 36:17
  talk
• 36:17
  about
• 36:17
  birds,
• 36:18
  which
• 36:18
  I
• 36:18
  can
• 36:18
  do
• 36:18
  all
• 36:18
  day
• 36:19
  long.
• 36:20
  Yeah.
• 36:21
  All
• 36:22
  right.
• 36:22
  Thank
• 36:22
  you
• 36:22
  so
• 36:23
  much.
• 36:23
  Thank
• 36:24
  you.
• 36:24
  And
• 36:25
  that's
• 36:25
  what
• 36:25
  the
• 36:26
  hell
• 36:26
  2.0.
• 36:27
  I'm
• 36:27
  Hal
• 36:28
  Eisner
• 36:28
  along
• 36:28
  with
• 36:28
  Elsa
• 36:29
  Ramon
• 36:29
  and
• 36:29
  Hunter
• 36:30
  Lowrey.
• 36:30
  This
• 36:30
  podcast
• 36:31
  is
• 36:32
  produced
• 36:32
  by
• 36:32
  Hunter.
• 36:33
  Jamie
• 36:33
  Knapp
• 36:33
  is
• 36:34
  our
• 36:34
  technical
• 36:34
  director
• 36:35
  editor
• 36:35
  and
• 36:36
  he
• 36:36
  handles
• 36:36
  all
• 36:37
  of
• 36:37
  the
• 36:37
  post
• 36:37
  production.
• 36:38
  Our
• 36:38
  original
• 36:39
  theme
• 36:39
  music
• 36:40
  is
• 36:40
  composed
• 36:40
  by
• 36:40
  Stuart
• 36:41
  Pearson.
• 36:42
  Earlier
• 36:42
  versions
• 36:43
  of
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  podcast
• 36:44
  were
• 36:44
  produced
• 36:44
  at
• 36:45
  the
• 36:45
  studios
• 36:45
  of
• 36:45
  Fox
• 36:46
  11
• 36:46
  in
• 36:46
  Los
• 36:46
  Angeles
• 36:47
  and
• 36:47
  are
• 36:48
  available
• 36:48
  through
• 36:48
  the
• 36:49
  link
• 36:49
  in
• 36:49
  our
• 36:50
  show
• 36:50
  Notes.
• 36:51
  This
• 36:51
  version
• 36:51
  of
• 36:51
  the
• 36:52
  podcast
• 36:52
  is
• 36:52
  available
• 36:53
  on
• 36:53
  YouTube
• 36:54
  and
• 36:54
  wherever
• 36:54
  you
• 36:55
  listen
• 36:55
  to
• 36:55
  podcasts
• 36:56
  and
• 36:56
  what.
• 36:57
  But
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  HOW
• 36:57
  2.0
• 36:58
  is
• 36:59
  produced
• 36:59
  in
• 36:59
  Los
• 36:59
  Angeles,
• 37:00
  California.