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  Speaker 1: Kid, he's the report.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson. Coming up tonight. Jim Chalmers wants to improve productivity.
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  Speaker 2: Will he's been told to think about getting crime under control.
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  Speaker 2: Shoplifting is costing US nine billion.
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  Speaker 3: Dollars a year.
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  Speaker 2: The New York Times admit their front page depicting starving
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  Speaker 2: garzans was powerful, shocking and completely misleading. Rowan Dean will
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  Speaker 2: get stuck into that one. A US nuclear submarine is
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  Speaker 2: currently docked in Brisbane. Sky News reporter Jonathan Lee was
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  Speaker 2: given a special tour today and he will join me shortly.
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  Speaker 2: A coalition MP says men and women generally gravitate toward
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  Speaker 2: different careers. Will the Labor Party have labeled him as disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: My all female panel will tell me if they agree.
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  Speaker 2: And Dester Crakhu will join me from London to unpack
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  Speaker 2: the most outrageous asylum seeker claim you have ever heard.
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  Speaker 2: But first, when Hama's terrorists swarmed into Israel on October
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  Speaker 2: seven and slaughtered more than a thousand Jews, they knew
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  Speaker 2: exactly what they were doing. They knew Israel would retaliate
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  Speaker 2: with the fury of a nation defending its right to exist,
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  Speaker 2: and they knew that Gazans would suffer greatly. They also
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  Speaker 2: knew the Western media would dutifully republish a mass propaganda
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  Speaker 2: with the skepticism of a Labrador being offered a snack,
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  Speaker 2: and they knew that Israel's standing with the international community
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  Speaker 2: would be smashed as a result. They even knew that
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  Speaker 2: Kirstarma would eventually crawl out from behind electum to do
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  Speaker 2: exactly what they wanted, reward terrorism with statehood, and lo
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  Speaker 2: it came to pass. France has already promised to recognize
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  Speaker 2: a Palestinian state in September, despite the awkward detail that
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  Speaker 2: Gaza is still run by genocideal maniacs and Jewish hostages
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  Speaker 2: are still rotten in tunnels. And now UK Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: Kirs Starmer will he's joined the conger line of capitulation.
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  Speaker 2: Starmer says he too will recognize the Palestinian state in
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  Speaker 2: September unless Israel stops the war they didn't start against
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  Speaker 2: the group that still holds Israeli's hostage.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where we're at now.
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  Speaker 2: Hostage negotiations now come with ultimatums directed at the victims.
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  Speaker 3: Now at this point.
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  Speaker 2: I could say the Brits have thrown Israel under a bus,
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  Speaker 2: but that would not be accurate. The Brits have thrown
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  Speaker 2: Israel under a double decker bus. And I might add
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  Speaker 2: they've thrown Israel's enemies, the Keys. Imagine Roosevelt in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: forty telling Churchill make peace with Hitler, or I'll recognize
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  Speaker 2: the greater German Reich. And yet that's exactly what Starma
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  Speaker 2: is doing to Israel. Starmer gave an address last night,
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  Speaker 2: and credit where credit's due.
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  Speaker 3: He started well enough.
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  Speaker 4: On the seventh October twenty twenty three, Hamas perpetrated the
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  Speaker 4: worst massacre in Israel's history. Every day since then the
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  Speaker 4: horror has continued. The hostages are still being held today.
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  Speaker 2: Bang On kirstamer Well said, so naturally, the next logical
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  Speaker 2: step should be demanding Hamas surrender and return the hostages.
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  Speaker 2: Right until that happens, there's nothing more to be said.
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  Speaker 2: Or what about the suffering of the Palestinian people, a
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  Speaker 2: very real issue, Well, that too is an issue for Hamas.
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  Speaker 2: They're the elected government of Gaza. All the pressure should
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  Speaker 2: be on them. This is so obvious. Even the Arab
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  Speaker 2: League understands it. The group of nations that include Saudi Arabia, Egypt,
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  Speaker 2: and Katar released a statement overnight calling on Hamas to
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  Speaker 2: immediately surrender. Now, I don't want to give too much
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  Speaker 2: credit to the Arab League. They also condemned the October
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  Speaker 2: seven attacks for the first time overnight. Only took them
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  Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty two days to work out a
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  Speaker 2: Taking women and children from their beds as hostages is wrong.
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  Speaker 3: What a world. And yet even.
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  Speaker 2: So, they at least understood the fault for this mess,
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  Speaker 2: and the solution to this mess lies at the blood
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  Speaker 2: soaked feet of Hamas.
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  Speaker 3: He is.
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  Speaker 2: Starma, however, is not so clear eyed. Starma wants Israel,
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  Speaker 2: not Hamas, to end the war, and he wants Israel,
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  Speaker 2: not the terrorists, to take responsibility for organizing a ceasefire
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  Speaker 2: with people who don't know the meaning of the word
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  Speaker 2: cease Starma's bottom line, if Israel doesn't stop trying to
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  Speaker 2: defeat the terrorists, he'll recognize a state run by the terrorists.
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  Speaker 4: The Palestinian people have endured terrible suffering now in Gaza
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  Speaker 4: because of a catastrophic failure of aid. We see starving babies,
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  Speaker 4: children too weak to stand. Images that will stay with
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  Speaker 4: us for a lifetime.
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  Speaker 3: Ah.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the images like the image plastered all over the
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  Speaker 2: front page of The New York Times purporting to show
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  Speaker 2: the world just how badly the Palestinians are suffering. Except
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  Speaker 2: the paper admitted today that the image they used to
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  Speaker 2: portray starvation was a lie.
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  Speaker 3: They said, and I quote.
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  Speaker 2: We recently ran a story about Gaza's most vulnerable civilians,
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  Speaker 2: including Mohammed Zachariah al Maktwah, who is about eighteen months
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  Speaker 2: old and suffers from severe malnutrition. We've since learned new information,
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  Speaker 2: including from the hospital that treated him and his medical records,
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  Speaker 2: and have updated our story to add context about his
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  Speaker 2: pre existing health problems. This additional detail gives readers a
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  Speaker 2: greater understanding of his situation. Indeed, it gives a much
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  Speaker 2: greater understanding of a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of the situation.
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  Speaker 2: After generating a tsunami of hate towards Israel with that
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  Speaker 2: terrifying picture, the New York Times now quietly admits that
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  Speaker 2: the boy had a pre existing condition which made him
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  Speaker 2: look a lot worse. They misled the entire world in
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  Speaker 2: order to make Israel look bad, and having been caught,
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  Speaker 2: issued a non apology. Really knowing that full well that
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  Speaker 2: that apology will not have anywhere near the reach the
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  Speaker 2: original story had that picture, It went around the world
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  Speaker 2: and was referenced by our own Prime Minister when interviewed
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  Speaker 2: on the ABC at the weekend. The picture used to
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  Speaker 2: demonize Israel, powerful, heartbreaking and completely misleading, and the New
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  Speaker 2: York Times responded with oops.
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  Speaker 4: So today, as part of this process towards peace, I
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  Speaker 4: can confirm the UK will recognize the State of Palestine
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  Speaker 4: by the United Nations General Assembly in September unless the
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  Speaker 4: Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation
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  Speaker 4: in Gaza, agree to a cease fire and commit to
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  Speaker 4: a long term, sustainable peace, viving the prospect of a
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  Speaker 4: two state solution.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have questions.
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  Speaker 2: Should Israel agree to cease fire without getting back their
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  Speaker 2: hostages or after getting.
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  Speaker 3: Back their hostages.
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  Speaker 2: Should Israel agree to a cease fire while Harmas is
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  Speaker 2: still ruling in Gaza or after Hermas have been decimated.
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  Speaker 2: Should Israel shake hands with the Palestinian authority while it's
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  Speaker 2: still handing out terrorism bonuses to anyone who murders Jews,
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  Speaker 2: or after they stop that practice eventually belatedly Starma did
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  Speaker 2: turn his attention to Hamas. And as you listen to
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  Speaker 2: how Starma addresses her Maas, just take note of his
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  Speaker 2: very first word here, It is.
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  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, our message to the tariff of her Maas is
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  Speaker 4: unchanged and unequivocal. They must immediately release all of the hostages,
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  Speaker 4: sign up to a ceasefire, disarm and accept that they
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  Speaker 4: will play no part in them of Gaza, and will
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  Speaker 4: make an assessment in September on how further parties have
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  Speaker 4: met these steps.
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  Speaker 2: The Kedahstamer's moral fog is that he makes demands first
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  Speaker 2: of Israel, and then he addresses the terrorists, beginning with
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  Speaker 2: the word you heard it.
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  Speaker 3: Meanwhile.
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  Speaker 2: That's the word he uses to transition from brating a
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  Speaker 2: sovereign democracy to lightly scolding child murdering terrorists. Israel must
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  Speaker 2: end the conflict, agree to cease far, et cetera, et cetera. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: our message to the terrorists of Hamas is meanwhile. See
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  Speaker 2: this is my problem with the way the West looks
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  Speaker 2: at the conflict in Gaza. The actions of Hamas and
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  Speaker 2: the ongoing captivity of hostages always seems to be a
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  Speaker 2: footnote and a dend of an inconvenience are a mild irritant. Meanwhile, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: why would Hamas release the hostages? Every Jew still trapped
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  Speaker 2: in Gaza's underground labyrinth is leverage and right now that
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  Speaker 2: leverage seems to be working beautifully. Donald Trump gets it here.
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  Speaker 2: He was overnight saying exactly what Starma refuses to understand.
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  Speaker 5: Is there any use that's all in pressuring Israel now
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  Speaker 5: to come to some sort of longest hops and.
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  Speaker 1: Nitios, Well really could make the case that you're rewarding
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  Speaker 1: people that you know you're rewarding Hamas if you do that,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think they should be rewarded. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: known in that camp to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: Keir Starmer concluded his address by saying he would recognize
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  Speaker 2: a non existent Palestinian state because that's what the British
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  Speaker 2: people want.
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  Speaker 3: So this is the way forward.
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  Speaker 4: We will keep working with all our international partners to
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  Speaker 4: end the suffering, get aid flooding into Gaza, and deliver
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  Speaker 4: a more stable future for the Middle East, because I
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  Speaker 4: know that is what the British people desperately want to see.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I wouldn't have thought
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  Speaker 2: is Rale should compromise their own security in order to
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  Speaker 2: appease what Kirstarmer says is the appetite of the British people,
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  Speaker 2: or any other nation for that matter. Of course, here
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  Speaker 2: in Australia, our own government appears to be edging towards
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  Speaker 2: Kostarmer's position.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps more carefully.
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi is insisting a two state solution can only
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  Speaker 2: come after Hamas has surrendered and released hostages.
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  Speaker 6: To a division of the two state solution. In immediate sense,
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  Speaker 6: we continue to call for a ceasefire, we continue to
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  Speaker 6: call for hostages to be released. We continue to say
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  Speaker 6: that Hamas can have no role in a future Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, Penny Wong has called on
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  Speaker 2: other countries to join Australia in citing a document calling
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  Speaker 2: for recognition of a Palestinian state. This while Hamas remain
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  Speaker 2: in power and hostages are still being held. Government front
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  Speaker 2: bencher and Nika Well said today that recognition of a
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian state was a matter of when, not if. She
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  Speaker 2: said it could happen and I quote pretty soon. It's
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  Speaker 2: a dangerous game condemning terrorists while at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Promising to give them what they want. It's a game.
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  Speaker 2: Our government should not be playing one more thing. Israel
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  Speaker 2: withdrew from Gaza in two thousand and five. October seven
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  Speaker 2: didn't happen because Palestinians would the nied A state. It
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  Speaker 2: happened because they were given one that Western governments, including
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  Speaker 2: our own, can't understand.
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  Speaker 3: That beggars belief.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Victorian farmers have staged a protest against proposed laws that
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  Speaker 2: would see them find more than twelve thousand dollars if
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  Speaker 2: they refuse to allow transmission line workers onto their land.
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  Speaker 2: The government is trying to roll out two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty k's of transmission lines that will cut across about
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty private properties, many of which are
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  Speaker 2: owned by farmers who fear the renewable rollout will destroy
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  Speaker 2: their livelihoods. Victoria Opposition leader Brad Batton made an appearance
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  Speaker 2: at the rally.
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  Speaker 3: Here he is we are opposed.
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  Speaker 8: They're a legislation they have put forward that will give
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  Speaker 8: them the rights and powers to bordoze through your communities
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  Speaker 8: and bordos through your personal properties, doing sure they can
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  Speaker 8: deliver what they want to deliver in a dictatorship style.
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  Speaker 9: It is simply not acceptable.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is forming New South Wales Treasurer Michael
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  Speaker 2: Costa and GXO Strategies director Cameron Milner. Cameron twelve thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollar fines for farmers who say no, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: you on my property.
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  Speaker 10: It's extraordinary, it is and it's unacceptable. I mean, you know, ultimately,
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  Speaker 10: these corporate cowboys who are running these transmission lines through
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  Speaker 10: private properties shouldn't be able to use the force of
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  Speaker 10: the law. They should get actually the community licensed to operate.
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  Speaker 10: They should actually do a negotiation, they should actually get
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  Speaker 10: come to an agreement.
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  Speaker 9: But if they can't do.
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  Speaker 10: That, they shouldn't use legislation and the government shouldn't use
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  Speaker 10: fines to force private property owners to comply. No, it's
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  Speaker 10: completely unacceptable and as I say, these foreign owned corporate
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  Speaker 10: cowboys shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.
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  Speaker 2: And Michael, I can't help but compare what's happening to
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  Speaker 2: people in regional areas with this renewable rollout, with people
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  Speaker 2: in places like north Shore Sydney and others where renewable
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  Speaker 2: projects have been proposed and then after protest from locals,
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  Speaker 2: they suddenly disappear. People in regional areas get no such opportunity.
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  Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, James. The hypocrisy of this doomsday culture
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  Speaker 7: has no bounds. And it's not just those wind turbines
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  Speaker 7: on the north shore of Sydney. I mean, take the
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  Speaker 7: nimbi's in terms of housing policy. You know, we've got
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  Speaker 7: governments all over Australia trying to increase density in these
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  Speaker 7: inner city suburbs where most of these people either support
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  Speaker 7: the Greens or support the Tools, and they're out in
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  Speaker 7: arms trying to stop that. Yet for other people in
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  Speaker 7: regional New South Wales to lose access to their private
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  Speaker 7: property rights, the hypocrisy is breathtaking. It's part of this
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  Speaker 7: mad doomsday cult. It's going to lead to the de
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  Speaker 7: industrialization and also unfortunately the cline in our agriculture as
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  Speaker 7: well as our mining. And you know, we saw this
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  Speaker 7: doomsday cold and it's full display this week with that
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  Speaker 7: full from the UN saying that we're not going to
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  Speaker 7: have fruit and vegetables. Well, we won't have it if
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  Speaker 7: you keep taking the land away.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to Rowan Dean a little later
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  Speaker 2: in the program because there's now concerns that livestock grazing
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  Speaker 2: close to renewable projects like solar farms and wind turbines
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  Speaker 2: could be affected and become essentially worthless. So it's not
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  Speaker 2: like these farmers complaining are just making their concerns up.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact the government won't listen but just say
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  Speaker 2: you will allow these people onto your property, You'll allow
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  Speaker 2: them to do what they do otherwise will find you
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  Speaker 2: like yourminals is just quite obscene. I want to stay
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  Speaker 2: on the whole renewable subject for a moment because even
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  Speaker 2: with their dictatorial approach to energy policy, Federal Labour's target
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  Speaker 2: to have eighty two percent renewable energy by twenty thirty
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  Speaker 2: seems to be slipping further and further out of reach.
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  Speaker 2: We learned today there hasn't been any construction of new
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  Speaker 2: wind farms this year, and that comes after former Labor
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  Speaker 2: Climate Advisor Ros Garno warned Australia is on track to
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  Speaker 2: miss its renewable targets by a big margin his words,
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  Speaker 2: due to a lack of investment. Michael Chris Bowen has
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  Speaker 2: announced that Labor will increase the capacity investment scheme by
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  Speaker 2: twenty five percent to try and get these renewable projects going.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, they're just going to throw more taxpayer
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  Speaker 2: dollars at it, and.
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  Speaker 7: It won't work, James, And it won't work. I mean
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  Speaker 7: they're already throwing money. These projects are uneconomical and that's
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  Speaker 7: the reality. No private sector is going to invest unless
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  Speaker 7: they have their risk mitigated. And unless the government chooses
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  Speaker 7: to completely underwrite that risk, you're not going to see
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  Speaker 7: any investment in these things. We will not meet that target.
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  Speaker 7: The target's unrealistic. The target does very little in terms
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  Speaker 7: of net zero in any event, as we know, because
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  Speaker 7: a lot of the carbon so called carbon pollution and
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  Speaker 7: I say so called is outside of the energy sector.
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  Speaker 7: It's in transport and other areas. And you know, the
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  Speaker 7: whole thing is a fast But the governments are throwing
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  Speaker 7: more money at this is not going to solve the problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not viable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how much money do you need to solve the problem.
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  Speaker 2: The answer is the same always, just a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: Cameron.
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever get the feeling, as I do, that
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  Speaker 2: labor are walking us straight into a cul de sack
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to energy, Well, I think we have
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  Speaker 2: to have this debate.
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  Speaker 10: And the problem is that the carbon tax that Garno
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  Speaker 10: came out again with rolling off the cuff again, Michael,
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  Speaker 10: we have been through this wall together in terms of
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  Speaker 10: the Labor Party. Is not the solution and politically it's
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  Speaker 10: not acceptable either. But we do have to talk energy transition,
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  Speaker 10: and we do have to talk about the fact that
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  Speaker 10: we aren't funding coulfied based low powery long illustrated. Our
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  Speaker 10: generator is getting old and older. And to your point
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  Speaker 10: Michael about industrial capacity, about manufacturing capacity, energy is the key.
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  Speaker 9: Energy is the key.
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  Speaker 10: So we do have to have a debate about where
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  Speaker 10: you're going to get cheap, reliable power from going forward. Now,
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  Speaker 10: if it's not going to be coal, perhaps gas. Unfortunately
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  Speaker 10: nuclear the fence at the last federal election. I support nuclear,
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  Speaker 10: but we do have to have a proper debate, James,
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  Speaker 10: about how we're going to relyly get cheap energy to
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  Speaker 10: keep our jobs in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: That's my concern.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems we can't have coal, we increasingly
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  Speaker 2: can't have gas. We've decided we can't have nuclear, so
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  Speaker 2: we're stuck with solar and wind, which clearly are not
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  Speaker 2: going to do the job.
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  Speaker 3: Hence cul de.
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  Speaker 2: Sac approaching rapidly. Just before I let you guys go,
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  Speaker 2: here's an agenda item. Jim Chalmers would not have expected
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  Speaker 2: for as much heraldic productivity summit law and order. The
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  Speaker 2: Australian Retail Council says theft from retail stores is costing
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  Speaker 2: the economy nine billion dollars a year and they're going
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  Speaker 2: to tell the Treasure if he's serious about improving business productivity,
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  Speaker 2: maybe his government and his state counterparts should get serious
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  Speaker 2: about the crime crisis.
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  Speaker 3: Michael, you can do all you want.
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  Speaker 2: Regarding productivity, but if you don't have law and order,
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  Speaker 2: your productivity quite literally just walks out the door.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, crime is a crime issue, not a productivity issue.
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  Speaker 7: And in fact, the way GDP is it actually adds
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  Speaker 7: to GDP. That's the way these figures work based on
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  Speaker 7: additional expenditure. Look, we need more enforcement. We need and
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  Speaker 7: we've got laws already in place, but they need to
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  Speaker 7: be enforced. And the soft handed approach to these sort
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  Speaker 7: of low level crime crimes is what the problem is.
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  Speaker 7: They just get out of hand. And really, I hope
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  Speaker 7: this is not discussed at that Productivity summer because I
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  Speaker 7: think it'll be all waste of time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Michael Costa, Kareron Milner, I appreciate your time this evening.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break, but coming up soon
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  Speaker 2: a special look inside a US Navy nuclear submarine currently
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  Speaker 2: docked in Brisbane, plus farmers raised concerns about potential contamination
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  Speaker 2: from green energy projects. All of that and more in
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  Speaker 2: just a moment. Well, welcome back to the program. One
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  Speaker 2: of the US Navy's four guided missile nuclear submarines has
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: emerged in Australia. USS Ohio arrived earlier this week as
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: part of an ongoing deployment in the West Pacific. The
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: submarine was in Brisbane, and our very own investigations reported
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Lee was fortunate enough to be given a tour
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: earlier today.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: He joins me. Now, Jonathan, welcome.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Before we get to talking about your conversations with top
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: US Navy brass and I'm very keen to hear their
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: thoughts on Orcus and if they gave anything away, But
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: just tell me generally about this nuclear powered submarine you're
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: on today.
• 19:44
  Speaker 11: Phenomenal piece of kit, the Ohio class submarine. We're looking
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: at something which is thirty meters longer than the Virginia
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: class submarines that we normally talk about. We're talking about
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: roughly one hundred and sixty odd people. The firepower with
• 19:57
  Speaker 11: the Virginias we often talk about ten or twelve Tomahaw missiles.
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: What can a Tomahawk missile do?
• 20:02
  Speaker 11: It can hit something sixteen hundred kilometers away, so basically
• 20:05
  Speaker 11: in the Brisbane River you can reach Melbourne or Adelaide.
• 20:09
  Speaker 11: These Ohio class submarines really really are the Apex Predator.
• 20:12
  Speaker 11: They have more than one hundred and fifty Tomahawk missiles.
• 20:16
  Speaker 11: So it hasn't been confirmed, but it's thought that one
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: of these Ohio class submarines was basically what struck the
• 20:24
  Speaker 11: Iranian nuclear weapon sites first, which opened the salvo with
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: around two dozen Tomahawk missiles.
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: Incredible.
• 20:32
  Speaker 11: The one we were on today was formerly one of
• 20:34
  Speaker 11: America's ICBM submarines. They're intercontinental ballistic missile subs. It's been
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: converted into what is effectively a submarine platform that can
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: travel the world, meet any adversary head on, go into
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: Harm's Way, and have more Tomahawk missiles than really Australia
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: has in our own arsenal, so fourteen of those, and
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: America also has four submarines which.
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: They use for their intercontinental ballistic fleets.
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: So extraordinary, and that's on top of the strike submarines
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: or tech submarine.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: You had a chance to check with their commanding officer,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Eric Hunter. Let's listen to some of that conversation.
• 21:09
  Speaker 12: We operate undetected with great capability.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: That again, being.
• 21:15
  Speaker 12: Undetected means that we're unlocated and therefore it keeps your
• 21:20
  Speaker 12: adversaries at bay in terms of like I mentioned, even
• 21:23
  Speaker 12: in peacetime, there's still geopolitical influence with that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 11: What does that give Australia because obviously we have acquired
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: your Tomahawks and we're also hopefully getting the Virginia class submarines.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: I think it's a forced mortiplayer quite frankly. You know, again,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: this is the we're working together. We operate alongside each other,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: we learn from each other, we share that cooperation is
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: building a tremendous partnership and alliance that really is an
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: asymmetric advantage against our adversaries.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Of Course, the thing I'm really interested about hearing Jonathan,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: is what the US needs av brass are saying regarding Orcus.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Obviously that's our keen interest here. And you had a
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: chance to talk to the Rear Admiral.
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: Do you want to tell you what I honestly think. Yeah,
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: I think they're in big trouble. I think when it
• 22:11
  Speaker 11: comes to what gave you that impression, well, we've been
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: talking about UCUS for more than twelve months seriously now, seriously,
• 22:17
  Speaker 11: it goes back a couple of years, obviously to Scott
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: Morrison when we I think when we looked at UCUS,
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: originally behind the scenes, it was about doing a deal
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: with the British to get in on their future submarine.
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: And from what Boris Johnson told me in an interview
• 22:31
  Speaker 11: we did for our documentary Into the Deep, he said,
• 22:33
  Speaker 11: Joe Biden saw the opportunity towards so sell Australia submarines.
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: I don't think Orcus was originally intended for us to
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: get American Virginia classes, and I think that has somehow
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: become part of the mix.
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: America right now is trying to.
• 22:46
  Speaker 11: Work out how to give us the submarines that they
• 22:49
  Speaker 11: have agreed to between three and five starting from twenty
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: thirty two. At the moment, they are starting to go
• 22:54
  Speaker 11: backwards with their own submarine numbers when they need to increase.
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: They want to get to sixty five attack submarines. They
• 22:59
  Speaker 11: currently have forty nine. That's fewer than they want and
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: they need, and they have to find a way to
• 23:04
  Speaker 11: give us three or five. So they're in a valley
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: which was caused by the Cold War at the time.
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: They're trying to ramp up production.
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: They're at a rate at one point three now they
• 23:12
  Speaker 11: need to be at two point three year. They don't
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: have enough work because they don't have up welders, electricians.
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: They're struggling.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to put this to the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Rear Admiral and what sort of indication, if any, did
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: he give you.
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: So the Rear Admiral was formerly in charge of delivering
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: in Australia.
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: He's now been promoted.
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: I asked him what the chance was we were going
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: to get them. His answer, while polite, was less than inspiring.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: I have a very large sense of pride and all
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: the work that we've done together with our Australian counterparts,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: and the amount of resolved to do the things that
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: we've been tasked to in.
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: I want to point out that Lincoln Richtek, the Rear
• 23:46
  Speaker 11: Admiral there is an incredibly nice, polite, humble man. So
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: he wasn't rude, but that's his way of saying a
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: I can't talk about it. But if he really wanted
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: to say, guys, I've got full confidence, I'm sure he
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: would have said I've got full confidence.
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: Mark Hammard is our chief of Navy. He's got the.
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: Job of knowing we need these submarines otherwise we have
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: an extraordinary capability gap that can't protect our sea lanes
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: that learn the nation.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: This is his response.
• 24:13
  Speaker 13: In talking of moonshots, you are talking about the nation
• 24:15
  Speaker 13: that put the man on the moon in about a
• 24:18
  Speaker 13: six year period, right from start to start to finish.
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: So we're talking about doubling the production of a known
• 24:23
  Speaker 13: capability with a known design. So I think let's just
• 24:27
  Speaker 13: give him a go.
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: A final thought that we're going to leave you with
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: the American admiral who looks like being the chief of
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: Navy effectively from America, has testified in the United States
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: a couple.
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: Of days ago. He talked about Orcus.
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: He says, the delivery pace is not where it needs
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: to be to deliver effectively on pillar one, that it's
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: going to require a transformational improvement, not a ten or
• 24:49
  Speaker 11: twenty percent transformational, and we need to start looking at
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: how other partners can help America to deliver.
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: The ships they need.
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: Is it time that Australia puts his hand up and says,
• 24:59
  Speaker 11: can we have a moonshot?
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: Can you give us the blueprint?
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: We can see what parts we can make to help
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: with UCUS. It's not something our government would want to do,
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: even they were to talk up job creation. We are
• 25:08
  Speaker 11: in almost desperate territory now. When it comes to Orcus,
• 25:11
  Speaker 11: does America want to give us these subs to take
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: away from their own capability?
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: Or perhaps are they better giving us.
• 25:16
  Speaker 11: Long range strike bombers, something like the new I think
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: it's the B twenty one, which potentially could do this
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: for us, and they could keep the submarines and patrol
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: our waters for US dark times. When it comes to UCUS,
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: there will be a lot of positive talk on our end,
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: but what does America really want to do? We're about
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: to fine it. I think Donald Trump's going to play hardball.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really fascinated to hear insights because having the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: chance to speak with, as I said, top US Navy
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: brass and you'd think they'd give you something knowing how
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: critical this is for our nation's defense and knowing how
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: much we're talking about it. You'd think at a presser
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: here they'd give some indication or a little bit of encouragement,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: but they gave you nothing, to the point where you've
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: come away thinking we're in deep trouble.
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and look, we looked at the Japanese sub. We
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: knew at the time that wasn't good enough.
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: We looked at the French We found out as technology improved,
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: that was going to leave us in trouble. We've gone
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: to the only option we really have here, and that
• 26:08
  Speaker 11: doesn't arrive until twenty thirty two.
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: We need to protect sea lanes. We're a trading nation.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Well, Jonathan Lee, I'm glad he had a good time
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: on the sub. I just wish you'd come here with
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: a bit more good news and that you had a
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: good time today.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Incredible piece of kid.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Appreciate your time, thanks mate. Well.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned in my editorial at the start, the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: New York Times has issued an apology of sorts after
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: publishing this front page photo of a toddler in Gaza,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: claiming he was suffering severe malnutrition. A New York Times
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: spokesperson has said, we've since learned new information. It's amazing
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: how they learn information. After publishing, including from the hospital
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: that treated him and his medical records, and have updated
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: our story to add context about his pre existing health problems.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Joining me now to.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Discuss this and more is Sky News host Rowan Dean Rowan,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Good evening.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: It's not just the New York.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Times that lie about what's happening in Gaza. Linked emails
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: reported in the Spectator magazine show the BBC instructed its
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: reporters to blame Israel for the food shortage in Gaza
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and to ignore any evidence to the contrary.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Can you believe this?
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Of course I can believe it. It's this is truly
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: sickening stuff, James, and well done on your editorial at
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. Absolutely spot on. Well, we're
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: now at a point where the propaganda coming out of
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Hamasa is so sophisticated, so sickening, so disgusting, that any
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: sane person's automatic response should be I'm skeptical about this.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Anything you see coming out purporting to be the evils
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of Israel, terrible things that Israeli Defense Force soldiers are doing,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and so on, dreadful things happening to the people of Gaza,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: one should immediately be skeptical. That should be the first
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: point of kind of engagement with this sort of information,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: because the propaganda is so sick, it's so sinister, it's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: so devious. Imagine using you know, a severely crippled I'm
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: not sure quite what the best word is, but a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: child who has very very serious deformities that have got
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with the Israeli Defense Force or Israel
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: or anything pre existing conditions. Imagine using that, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: going into a situation where you have a deformed child
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: or a child with a dreadful illness, and using that
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: for your political propaganda, Using that child. It is so sick,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and it is so disgusting, and worse than that, there
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: are newspapers here Fairfac's newspapers quite happily printed that we
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: had the Prime Minister of this country, who, by the way,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: gets more despicable by the day, in my opinion, coming
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: out out and say and accusing the Israelis of deliberately
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: starving or or of suggesting that the Israelis were inhumane.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I think was the word he using, lack of humanity.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: No army in the history of this planet has done
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: more to ensure the safety of the civilians that who
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: declared war on them. Let's not forget this. If Hamas
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and the Ghazans wanted this thing over and done, where
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: they could finish it tonight by simply releasing the hostages.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: The simple fact is that the Israelis are in the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: most pernicious position of trying to rescue their own hostages,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: their own people, but at the same time Hamas are
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: using its own people in the most vile and disgraceful
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: ways to demonize the Israelis. So I just say, shame
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: on every single person whose first response is to go, oh, yeah, well,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, they've really they've gone too far. They've got
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: to stop, They've got to ease of it's getting out
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: of control. I'm sorry. If you're that person, you are
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: guilty of a blood libel. Do you seriously think the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Israeli people, the Jewish people, the government of Israel are
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: sitting there deliberately starving and torturing the people of Gaza. No,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: they are not. They are going out of their way
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to do the very opposite. So shame on every individual
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: who doesn't immediately recognize this disgusting propaganda for what it is. Jams.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: The other thing I'd like to know Rolan is whether
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Keir Starmer or Anthony Alberinezi, both of whom referenced that
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: photo The New York Times has now said, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: maybe we fudged it a little bit. If either of
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: those world leaders will say, hey, by the way, we
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: need to correct the record. That photo we referred to
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: as evidence was other than what it was reported to be.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think we'll hear from either of them regarding that.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I want to move on to James.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: James and should be asking Anthony albin Easy to apologize
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to the people of Israel for what he has said
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: about them. Sorry, carry on.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And what are the odds of what are the odds
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: of that happening?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Rowan exactly not great. I want to talk about energy policies,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: something else. I know you're really fired up about. Australian
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: farmers are now going to be required to confirm whether
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: their animals have been grazing their solar panels and wind
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: turbines in order to receive a valued stamp of approval
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: from Accreditation body integrity Systems. The group says, and I'll
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: quote for you, chemical or physical contamination risks can be
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: caused if livestock have access to degrading equipment and infrastructure,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: including solar panels and wind turbines. Rowan that doesn't sound good.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Certainly doesn't so good for the cows. Maybe they want
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: to kill the cows because they're farting and causing climate change.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, this whole thing is so absurd. I was
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: pleased to hear your two former guests, both of them
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: of from the Labor Party, at least, not so much
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: of the left of the Labor, but definitely of the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: left on Australian politics, quite correctly calling out the net
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: zero nonsense for what it is. It is an absolute disgrace.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Now we learn that our cattle are being poisoned by
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: solar panels and wind turbines. So the poor old farmers
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of Australia. This country was built on the hard toil,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the sweat and toil of the farmers of this nation.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: This Labor government and the Teals and the Greens are
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: treating the farmers of Australia with absolute contempt. Not only
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: are they marching across their land, their own private property,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: finding them if they don't let these thugs and goons
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: come on to their property with their transmission lines and
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: their windmills and their solar panels. They are then now
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: poisoning their cattle and their land with this disgusting stuff.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: The entire climate change thing is a scam. Donald Trump
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: called it out. He sat there with President, the President
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of the EU, He sat there with their Prime Minister
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: of Britain, and he told it as it is. These
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: things are being banned in America. Windmills, they kill birds,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: They destroy the land that they're built on. You can't
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you can't get rid of the things. They are so toxic.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: You can't bury them, you can't get dump them out
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and sea. What do you do with the things they rust?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: They have an eight to ten year life span. Everything
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: about this climate cult is destructive. It is the most
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: sinister destruction of our environment, of our economy, of our prosperity.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And it is and the great tragedy is that it
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: is the farmers and the poor people in Australia, the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: working classes who can't afford the small businesses, who can't
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: afford the power bills, that this entire scam is perpetrating.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: While the political leaders sit with their huge salaries, sit
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: in their Canberra bubble. They've got their cushy retirement salaries.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: They'll be floating off around the rest of the world
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: as soon as they leave Parliament. The devastation and destruction
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: of the climate cult has to stop, and we need
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a political leader on the right side of politics, on
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the conservative side of politics. We need a political leader
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to lead the coalition in fighting this insanity and this
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: madness before it completely destroys our farm lands, our prosperity
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and the future of our kids.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I could not agree more.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Rowen Deine, thanks for your time tonight.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it well.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: After the break, a coalition MP says that men and
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: women generally gravitate toward different careers. The Labor Party of
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: labeled him disgusting. My all female panel will tell me
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: if they agree. And my staff claim an app that
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: rates their work performance needs to be ditched because it's
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: affecting their mental health. All that coming up in a
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: moment Welcome back to the program. Today, Labor confirmed that
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: YouTube will now be included in its social media ban
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: for under sixteens, despite the threat of a High Court challenge.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: He was Communications Minister and Eca Wells.
• 35:31
  Speaker 14: The evidence cannot be ignored that four out of ten
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: Australian kids reports that their most recent harm was on YouTube,
• 35:40
  Speaker 14: and as parents, we are really trying our best when
• 35:44
  Speaker 14: it comes to the Internet, but it is like trying
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: to teach your kids to swim in the open ocean
• 35:49
  Speaker 14: with the rips and the sharks compared to at the
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: local council pool. We can't control the ocean, but we
• 35:57
  Speaker 14: can police the sharks.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: So it sounds to me like YouTube is now a
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: shark infested ocean, and Anika Wells is David Hasselhoff in
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Baywatch sprinting down the beach to slow motion save the children.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Never mind that parents could just parent. It's far better
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: for government to shut down half the Internet caught swimming
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: lessons Anyway, despite the band, children under sixteen will still
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: be able to access YouTube, either via a parent's account
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: or in a logged out state. They just won't be
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: able to have their own account. Let's bring in GT Communications.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Jemma Togneny, do you think it's a good idea to
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: include include YouTube in this band?
• 36:39
  Speaker 15: No, it's dumb, And that's respectfully, the dumbest analogy I've
• 36:41
  Speaker 15: heard in a really long time, and I've had a
• 36:43
  Speaker 15: lot of dumb analogies like.
• 36:45
  Speaker 16: You should come to Western Australia. Come to Western Australian Minister,
• 36:48
  Speaker 16: have you heard of Western Australia where children regularly.
• 36:51
  Speaker 15: Have swimming lessons in the open ocean on the beach Cottaslow.
• 36:55
  Speaker 16: Beach, Layton Beach, City Beach, Floriot Beach.
• 36:58
  Speaker 15: Imagine that being taught to swim in the conditions that
• 37:01
  Speaker 15: you're going to spend the rest of your life in.
• 37:02
  Speaker 16: What a novel concept.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: And of course the government says tech companies are going
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: to face heavy penalties if they failed to take reasonable
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  Speaker 2: steps to prevent under sixteens from having accounts. I'm wanting
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  Speaker 2: someone to define reasonable for me.
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  Speaker 15: Well, that is indefinable because that's a completely subjective term.
• 37:22
  Speaker 16: But taking a step back.
• 37:23
  Speaker 15: Again, the real sting here, or one of the nastiest
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  Speaker 15: things of this piece of legislation is the privacy issue
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  Speaker 15: and the proof of identity and the proof of age issue.
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  Speaker 16: Nobody's thought this through.
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  Speaker 15: This is just another example of Australia becoming a nanny state,
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  Speaker 15: having this big brother attitude. If this is a country
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  Speaker 15: where we are divesting our parenting to the government.
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  Speaker 16: You know she's saying, oh, it's so hard as a parent.
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  Speaker 16: Do you know what Minister.
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  Speaker 15: I have friends who simply parented their kids and said no,
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  Speaker 15: you can't have a smartphone till you finish high school.
• 37:54
  Speaker 15: How did they do it? They parented. It's such a novel,
• 37:56
  Speaker 15: old fashioned concept. But we want the government to do everything.
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  Speaker 15: This government, the weakness of this government is becoming malignant,
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  Speaker 15: like a cancer. It's spreading into every part of society.
• 38:07
  Speaker 15: It's spreading into every part of foreign policy, domestic.
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  Speaker 16: Policy, this policy here, including YouTube, including these things. It's
• 38:15
  Speaker 16: an overreach.
• 38:16
  Speaker 15: Kids need to learn to navigate the environment that they
• 38:20
  Speaker 15: are going to be living and growing up in.
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  Speaker 16: What about dealing with the source? What about dealing with
• 38:25
  Speaker 16: access to pornography? What about dealing with those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all right.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get your opinion on something that happened
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  Speaker 2: in Parliament this week. Liberal MP Terry Young made a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: speech where he asserted that men and women generally, not always,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: but generally gravitate towards different kinds of jobs.
• 38:46
  Speaker 17: His what he said, men tend to be more drawn
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  Speaker 17: to vocations and involve mass physical exertion or construction and traits,
• 38:54
  Speaker 17: whereas women in the main tend to be drawn to
• 38:57
  Speaker 17: careers that involve women and care.
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  Speaker 3: And other people.
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  Speaker 17: Vocations like hairdressers, nursing, social workers and the like will
• 39:05
  Speaker 17: always be more female dominated now.
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  Speaker 2: Queensland Labor went on social media labeling his comments quote
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: unquote disgusting and Minister for Infrastructure Catherine King will she
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: launched this rebuke.
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  Speaker 18: Those opposite simply do not get it. Those opposite are
• 39:23
  Speaker 18: living decades in the past. First it's net zero and
• 39:27
  Speaker 18: now it is your attitudes towards women. Well, I'm here
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  Speaker 18: to tell them that it is twenty twenty five, climate
• 39:35
  Speaker 18: change is real and gender equality is a very good
• 39:39
  Speaker 18: thing for this country.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So Jimmy, give me your take on this. Terry
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  Speaker 2: Young wasn't saying women can't be training, so he was
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  Speaker 2: just pointing out most don't want to be.
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  Speaker 3: Is that disgusting?
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  Speaker 16: I think that he led with his chin. It was
• 39:55
  Speaker 16: really really like.
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  Speaker 15: I didn't agree with a single word that came out
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  Speaker 15: of his mouth. I don't know where he's impressions are
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  Speaker 15: coming from. I, as you know, I'm an employer. I've
• 40:03
  Speaker 15: been an employer for twenty two years. I have a
• 40:05
  Speaker 15: strategy firm, and I have overwhelmingly employed women than men.
• 40:10
  Speaker 15: And that has simply just been they've been the best
• 40:12
  Speaker 15: candidates at the time, but we have pardoned me. We
• 40:15
  Speaker 15: have clients in infrastructure, for example, who are literally blazing
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: trails with their employment of women in stem based industries,
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: in trade based industries. So no, I don't agree with
• 40:29
  Speaker 15: what he said at all. But also Catherine King, she's
• 40:33
  Speaker 15: having an easy crack and you can't blame her because
• 40:35
  Speaker 15: it was low hanging fruit. Just because one MP said something,
• 40:38
  Speaker 15: it doesn't mean that's what the Liberal Party stands for.
• 40:40
  Speaker 15: For heaven's sake, I mean climate change. The climate is changing.
• 40:46
  Speaker 15: Is there an emergency?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: No?
• 40:47
  Speaker 15: Is the federal government's energy policy sending us towards a
• 40:51
  Speaker 15: very very dangerous situation?
• 40:52
  Speaker 16: Yes it is.
• 40:54
  Speaker 15: You know, it's gender equality good for this country. Yes,
• 40:56
  Speaker 15: if you're a woman born in Australia, you have won
• 40:58
  Speaker 15: the golden ticket. This is a great country in which
• 41:01
  Speaker 15: to be a woman, and no one believes otherwise.
• 41:03
  Speaker 16: When it comes to.
• 41:04
  Speaker 15: Opportunity, whether you want to be a trade whether you
• 41:06
  Speaker 15: want to be a doctor or a lawyer, a plumber,
• 41:09
  Speaker 15: a sparky, whatever you want to be, if you're a
• 41:11
  Speaker 15: woman born into a decent home in this country, you
• 41:13
  Speaker 15: can be it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 16: And nobody believes otherwise.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I take your point, but let me bring in Christy
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: McSweeney from pr Council. I mean all he was saying
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: was generally, you know, men and women gravitate towards different things.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: My son is studying nursing is one of the few
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: guys in his course, Shokhara. Well, I wasn't surprised at all.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Most guys don't go into nursing. It's not a crime
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: to say that, is it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 19: Look, it's not a crime to say it. But you
• 41:42
  Speaker 19: aren't standing in the Federal Parliament. And that means that
• 41:45
  Speaker 19: you should have an awareness of issues and how those
• 41:49
  Speaker 19: issues might be represented and how you might sound to
• 41:54
  Speaker 19: the Australian public. It's not having a beer, but it's
• 41:58
  Speaker 19: at a barbecue. It was very inarticulate language and very
• 42:03
  Speaker 19: ill expressed, and he walked right into the west role.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Is he wrong?
• 42:07
  Speaker 16: I don't know.
• 42:08
  Speaker 19: I have clients in the automotive sector and the bulk
• 42:12
  Speaker 19: of our winners of apprentices of the Year of Tire
• 42:15
  Speaker 19: and suspension, auto electricians mechanics are girls. Girls are taking
• 42:21
  Speaker 19: up a lot of these heavy trains through traditional heavy
• 42:24
  Speaker 19: trades as the transitioning with technology because that heavy, dirty
• 42:30
  Speaker 19: work is going out of it and they're thinking, great,
• 42:32
  Speaker 19: I can be an auto mechanic now because I'm interested
• 42:35
  Speaker 19: in technology, and of course you know I've worked on
• 42:38
  Speaker 19: many of West Australian mindsight and the benefits for women
• 42:43
  Speaker 19: to go into mining and go fi FO and they
• 42:47
  Speaker 19: learn training and lots of them end up on the
• 42:49
  Speaker 19: tools and as trade is. He's obviously never been to
• 42:53
  Speaker 19: the northwest of Western Australia and they are full of
• 42:58
  Speaker 19: women on the tools. So if you stand in the
• 43:01
  Speaker 19: Federal Parliament, you have to have a responsibility that your
• 43:04
  Speaker 19: worldview perhaps has to be altered and adjusted and do
• 43:09
  Speaker 19: a little bit of research before you come out with
• 43:11
  Speaker 19: comments like that. But he did walk straight through the
• 43:14
  Speaker 19: door that Labor wants all coalition mpays to walk through,
• 43:18
  Speaker 19: which is about climate charge and about gender diversity.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of walking straight through the door, I feel
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: like I just walked straight through the door raising that
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: topic with Jemma Toognini.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: And Christim extreme to both of you for joining me.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Always a privilege to speak to you guys.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Well after the break Esther Krak who will join me
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: from London to unpack the most outrageous asylum seeker claim
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: you have ever heard that's coming up in just a moment.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: If you want to know why people in the UK
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: are so angry about immigration, will consider this story. A
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: twenty six year old Yemeny bloke arrived at Heathrow Airport
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: January last year and was found to have indecent photo
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: of children.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: As well as a video of bestiality.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: On his phone, but he was spared jail and deportation
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: over concerns that if he was sent back to Yemen
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: he might be forced to fight for the hooties and
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: people wonder why Brits are furious Joining me now as
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: writer and broadcast to Esther krakhu Esther, I suppose the
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: UK government's safety and security concern here is not about
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: the Yemeny asylum seeker, but British citizens might have posted
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: an inflammatory tweet about the case.
• 44:28
  Speaker 20: Exactly, if you were to tweet something mean about this,
• 44:31
  Speaker 20: you might fall foul of the Home Office new task
• 44:34
  Speaker 20: force that has been set up, believe it or not, to.
• 44:37
  Speaker 21: Troll the internet for anti migrant posts and sentiment. This
• 44:41
  Speaker 21: is what they're doing. They're not addressing people's concerns.
• 44:43
  Speaker 20: They would rather vilify you and in some places, in
• 44:46
  Speaker 20: some cases take you to prison for expressing concern about this,
• 44:49
  Speaker 20: like Lucy Coliny Connolly found out the lady who tweeted
• 44:53
  Speaker 20: something distasteful during the Southport riots and is now serving
• 44:57
  Speaker 20: a thirty one month.
• 44:57
  Speaker 21: Prison sentence for that deleted tweet.
• 45:01
  Speaker 20: Bear in mind that there are members of the grape
• 45:04
  Speaker 20: gangs Pakistani rapeians you've seen in the UK that didn't
• 45:06
  Speaker 20: even serve that time. So just to put into context,
• 45:09
  Speaker 20: but this young man, he overstayed his visa. He came
• 45:12
  Speaker 20: to the UK originally to study, and then he applied
• 45:15
  Speaker 20: for asylum and the judge's argument is that they don't
• 45:18
  Speaker 20: want to send into prison, so he's now been given
• 45:19
  Speaker 20: a suspended sentence because they're concerned that if his asylum
• 45:23
  Speaker 20: application is rejected, he and his family will be at
• 45:26
  Speaker 20: risk of being recruited by the Huthis. But maybe he
• 45:28
  Speaker 20: should have thought about that before he was entertaining videos
• 45:30
  Speaker 20: of you children being raped and defiled and also beastiality
• 45:34
  Speaker 20: videos involving a man and a goat. Believe it or not,
• 45:38
  Speaker 20: I mean, it's just it really just beggars belief because
• 45:41
  Speaker 20: clearly the British state is not working in the interest
• 45:43
  Speaker 20: of the British public.
• 45:44
  Speaker 21: Why anybody like that would even qualify for asylum is
• 45:48
  Speaker 21: beyond me.
• 45:49
  Speaker 20: I'm hoping that the story being discussed in the national
• 45:52
  Speaker 20: media will spur whoever is in charge of an asylum
• 45:55
  Speaker 20: case to rightly reject it, but we won't be surprised
• 45:59
  Speaker 20: if that's not the We've seen sex offenders remain in
• 46:02
  Speaker 20: the UK because their.
• 46:04
  Speaker 21: Children can't handle spicy food.
• 46:06
  Speaker 20: So I've heard it all and it wouldn't be surprising
• 46:09
  Speaker 20: if this person is allowed to remain in the UK.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned the scandal of the child sex
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: grooming gangs, which involved numerous numbers of migrants to the UK.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: That's what I can't understand about this case. Here You've
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: got a guy with child porn on his phone coming
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: into the country and they allow him to stay, even
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: despite the furor over the child sex grooming gangs. I mean,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: how do the UK public respond to this? They must
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: be irate, but of course they're not allowed to be angry,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: are they Otherwise? As you said, they're prosecuted.
• 46:42
  Speaker 21: Well, it's one of bewilderment.
• 46:44
  Speaker 20: You really have to wonder whose side these authorities are on.
• 46:47
  Speaker 20: I mean, the only reason why we found or we
• 46:49
  Speaker 20: know of these videos of children being abused on this
• 46:53
  Speaker 20: phurn is because there was a silum application because apparently
• 46:56
  Speaker 20: it seems as a shock to many people, they actually
• 46:58
  Speaker 20: do background checks on people that claim asylum here in
• 47:01
  Speaker 20: the UK, so that was the only reason why this
• 47:03
  Speaker 20: was familiar to the authorities and now.
• 47:05
  Speaker 21: To the media. But there's so many stories.
• 47:08
  Speaker 20: Of people that really shouldn't be getting asylum in the UK,
• 47:11
  Speaker 20: especially after the revelation of the grooming gangs, mainly which
• 47:14
  Speaker 20: showed a vast overrepresentation of Pakistani heritage men across towns
• 47:19
  Speaker 20: in the UK. I mean, it's estimated that it's even
• 47:21
  Speaker 20: up to over thirty towns in the UK and may
• 47:24
  Speaker 20: involve up to hundreds of thousands of predominantly white British
• 47:27
  Speaker 20: girls who were targeted predominantly for being white and British.
• 47:30
  Speaker 21: So the scandal just keeps adding on.
• 47:32
  Speaker 20: I mean, there's so many stories of people being allowed
• 47:35
  Speaker 20: to remain in the UK despite being a sex offenders.
• 47:38
  Speaker 21: For things that you generally just wouldn't believe.
• 47:40
  Speaker 20: And it's not just sex offenders, I mean committing murders
• 47:42
  Speaker 20: and all sorts of things. So again this is just Unfortunately,
• 47:45
  Speaker 20: we're kind of getting used to it, which is the
• 47:47
  Speaker 20: sad state of affairs that we're in.
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: It.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Sir, I've only got a few seconds left, but I
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: just wanted to quickly ask you. Donald Trump yesterday said
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of things about the London mayath so
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: they can he's doing a terrible job, et cetera. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: was just wondering, just quickly, has Sadik Khan made any
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: response to Trump's comments or is he just let them
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: go through to the keeper.
• 48:08
  Speaker 20: Well, he's feigning the gracious host, saying that he's happy
• 48:11
  Speaker 20: that Donald Trump wants to visit the greatest city on Earth.
• 48:14
  Speaker 20: Except you know, if you're actually hapened to live in
• 48:16
  Speaker 20: London and knife crime has gone up by sixty percent
• 48:18
  Speaker 20: since city can't tenure, you probably don't think it's the
• 48:21
  Speaker 20: greatest city on earth.
• 48:22
  Speaker 21: Or well, you know, come to a city where people.
• 48:24
  Speaker 20: Are being stabbed to death for having nice watches in
• 48:28
  Speaker 20: lush parts of the capitol. But you know, the delusions
• 48:31
  Speaker 20: only exist in Yes, absolutely, that's what he was thinking
• 48:34
  Speaker 20: he was doing.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: It's not the sort of place that you'd really want
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: to go. I think Trump was pretty spot on with
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: his comments Esther, it's always a joy to speak with you.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Thanks for your time tonight. That's all the time I've
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: got tonight. Thanks for watching, but stick around. Coming up
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: right now hosting Sharry Is Danika to Georgio, good night.