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Capitulo 021: "La Otra" - Sidepiece Culture · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: Radio radio Radio. He's a myth and bullshit. A radio
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Allow allow, Welcome back to another capt Brown
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Speaker 1: Girl Hour. Welcome back to local radio. This is and
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Speaker 1: this is Malamos. Look at a radio is where we
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Speaker 1: celebrate the legacies and geniuses of women and fems of color.
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Speaker 1: And we're back. Yes, you know, we're just moving right along.
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Speaker 1: I know. And the last cap was super cute. It
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Speaker 1: was so fun answering listener questions. Are locomotives sent in
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Speaker 1: a bunch of questions. We answered twenty of them, and
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Speaker 1: we found out that a well of our locomotives have
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Speaker 1: little crushes on us and we're asking about dating and stuff.
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Speaker 1: And that was for me, that was the highlight. Was
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Speaker 1: really fun. The last episode was just it was like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, like internal drama, internal gossip. I love it. Right,
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Speaker 1: So that makes me wonder, like would you ever date? Well?
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Speaker 1: I think that like, let's talk about this, right, because
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Speaker 1: I think that it would be wise to have like
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Speaker 1: a no dating listeners rule. I agree, but I think
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Speaker 1: that just like with all rules, there must be exceptions
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Speaker 1: to be sermon, let us see can you bend the rules?
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Speaker 1: Can can the rules be bent for you? I think
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Speaker 1: it's possible if the right one comes along. I completely
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Speaker 1: agree with you. But we have our standards. I had
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Speaker 1: no dating coworkers rule, and I ended up right co workers.
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Speaker 1: Now we are in a relationship, so there's exceptions most
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Speaker 1: every rule, right, healthy exceptions. I completely agree with you.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a fun So thank you so
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Speaker 1: much everybody who submitted questions. We're gonna do more yes,
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Speaker 1: um listener questions. We're gonna bring in more questions. We
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Speaker 1: didn't bring in any for this episode today, but I
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Speaker 1: did see on the Curious Campy that y'all were still
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Speaker 1: sub many questions, So I'm really happy about that, and
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Speaker 1: we will answer some for the next absolutely. Yeah. So
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Speaker 1: we just want to also do an update because we
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Speaker 1: have been getting a few emails from universities UM some
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Speaker 1: form of request and then some inquiries whatever that world, inquiries,
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Speaker 1: inquiries whatever, yes, yes, to bring us out to campus. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And we saw a pattern with some of the students
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Speaker 1: that were reaching out to us UM that they hadn't
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Speaker 1: necessarily partnered with a student organization or a department. So
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Speaker 1: we just wanted to go over some of that because
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Speaker 1: we both worked in student affairs while we were in
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Speaker 1: doing so, Like, basically, this is kind of like I
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Speaker 1: did an Instagram like story thread basically just kind of
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Speaker 1: breaking down how do you bring a speaker to your
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Speaker 1: university or to your college. Right, there's a way to
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Speaker 1: go about it. Speakers, artists, visiting lectures, visiting performers, whoever. UM.
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Speaker 1: Usually there's something called an honorarium. Right, that is basically
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Speaker 1: like what they're being compensated for for their work. You're
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Speaker 1: paying people for their labor, for their labor, and most
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Speaker 1: universities colleges when they bring out some type of a
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Speaker 1: visiting teacher, lecture, artist, whoever, usually what happens traditionally is
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Speaker 1: there's an honorarium set aside for that speaker for their work.
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Speaker 1: And then in addition to the honorarium, there is some
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Speaker 1: type of budget to cover flights, UM, to cover hotels,
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Speaker 1: you know, transportation things like that. So, like back in
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Speaker 1: the day when we were in undergrad like I was
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Speaker 1: really involved UM at my university's Latino Center, the Women's Center,
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Speaker 1: the Association of Latin American Students, and I was on
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Speaker 1: the student Senate and if you're at a university, UM,
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Speaker 1: and you're not involved in student government or you're not
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Speaker 1: in a club, what you should know is that most
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Speaker 1: universities have a ton of money set aside specifically for
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Speaker 1: like student activities, for clubs, for for student organizations, for
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Speaker 1: students to utilize. That money is for you to use.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of the times your student fees are
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Speaker 1: already included yep. So you're already paying into allocating fees
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Speaker 1: to bring a guest speaker exactly, So fucking bring women
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Speaker 1: of color, bring fams, being queer folks, bring disabled people exactly,
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Speaker 1: q T, POC, all of that. So if yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: and if you've never done it before, it can seem
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Speaker 1: um there's a lot of like bureaucracy behind it. Um.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, the best way to get your basically, it's
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Speaker 1: a matter of like like yours just said, you're paying,
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Speaker 1: you're paying tuition already, where you have financial aid, you're
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Speaker 1: paying some type of a student life fee whatever they
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Speaker 1: call it. The money is already there for this specific purpose,
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Speaker 1: and it's for student to enrich your own education how
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Speaker 1: you want to. So the best way to get access
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Speaker 1: to that money and to pitch an idea for an event,
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Speaker 1: for a speaker, Join a club, join a sorority, join
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Speaker 1: a student organization, join your student senate, and you can
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Speaker 1: make those events happen. You can get that funding allocated
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Speaker 1: and bring out speakers like for example. Yeah, you could
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Speaker 1: also pitch it to a professor if it goes like
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Speaker 1: with your course work, you could pitch it to them
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Speaker 1: and then they can also go about it with you.
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Speaker 1: Academic departments aside from student activities funding, like major's academic departments,
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Speaker 1: they have their own funding to bring people for panels,
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Speaker 1: for conferences, guest lectures, all that good stuff. So if
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Speaker 1: you have more questions, feel free to email us d
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Speaker 1: m s because we've gotten a lot of emails from
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Speaker 1: all over the country at this point. It's exciting. It's
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Speaker 1: very pasting it under wraps. Yeah, I don't like to
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Speaker 1: I want to speak things into existence, but I also
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Speaker 1: don't like to prematurely stay anything. Yeah, Like it's happening.
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Speaker 1: The require us are coming in um. Nothing has been
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Speaker 1: made final yet, but it's happening. Yes, Like you guys
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Speaker 1: are reaching out to us and it's really really really
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Speaker 1: cute and excite. Be at a university sometime soon. We'll announce,
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Speaker 1: of course you will. Also on a side note, we're
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Speaker 1: recording at a nine and boil high, shout out. We
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Speaker 1: noticed that the last um the sound was very low,
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Speaker 1: and we're finding out that other radio hosts were also
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Speaker 1: having that issue. So there is a new sound equipment. Um,
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Speaker 1: we're figuring that out. Yeah, hope hopefully it doesn't affect
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Speaker 1: our sound for too long. I hope you can hear it.
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Speaker 1: Hope you can hear us trying to hope we do
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Speaker 1: not have to re record this. Oh God forbid. We've
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Speaker 1: done that before. We had to record three times and
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Speaker 1: it was so embarrassing because it was with cheese. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we had a guess. We kept messing up, we kept
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Speaker 1: effing up the state. It was horrible, but we got it.
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Speaker 1: We got our take, We got our final take. We
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Speaker 1: did so the meats, the oh my god, this listeners
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Speaker 1: look on what this is all all podcasts. I would
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Speaker 1: say this is like a controversial topic a little bit,
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Speaker 1: a little bit, a little like it could be. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know so anyway, today we are talking about Yes,
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Speaker 1: the side chick, the mistress, the side chick, the side piece,
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Speaker 1: the lover, the lover. You know what, we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: You know what a side chicken is because you've been one,
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Speaker 1: You've dealt with a side chick, whatever the case may be.
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Speaker 1: And Biosa and I have our own stories and our
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Speaker 1: own experiences with side chick culture. I would say, we do,
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Speaker 1: we do, we do, So let's just get into Let's
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Speaker 1: get into it. There's so much to talk about. We
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Speaker 1: just need to get started. Let's do it. Okay. So
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Speaker 1: when thinking about this topic, I was thinking about, of course,
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Speaker 1: our families are upbringing, and I was thinking about how
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Speaker 1: it is an unkept secret in Latin x homes that
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Speaker 1: your father, your theo someone some man, and your father,
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Speaker 1: your grandfather has either another family that everybody knows about
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Speaker 1: and either interacts with them or pretends they don't exist.
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Speaker 1: Or there's another muhent either in Latin America or down
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Speaker 1: the block or down the block. And it's funny because
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Speaker 1: at one time I did this poll, like I did
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Speaker 1: a survey on Twitter, basically, you know, to prove the
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Speaker 1: thesis once again that men are trash. Of course, that
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Speaker 1: men are garbage. So I needed empirical evidence, like I
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Speaker 1: needed statistical information, scientific proof proof that men are garbage,
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Speaker 1: and I got it, I got my proof. Of course,
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Speaker 1: I have nothing but proof I have received, so my pole.
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Speaker 1: The question was basically like, have you ever dealt with
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Speaker 1: if you date men, if you deal with men? Have
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Speaker 1: you ever met a man dated a man a Latino specifically,
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Speaker 1: who Latino assist gender heterosexual Latino? The problem children of
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Speaker 1: the world, you guys regrets. Anyways, I'm talking about you, um.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever dealt with a Latino assist gender heterosexual
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Speaker 1: Latino who lied about having kids, lied about having a family,
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Speaker 1: lied about having a girlfriend. And has that happened to
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Speaker 1: you once? Has it happened to you twice? Has it
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Speaker 1: happened to you multiple times? Have you ran into multiple
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Speaker 1: Latino men who have lied on their entire families? And
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Speaker 1: the vast majority of people who responded to the poll said, Yep,
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Speaker 1: that's happened to me twice. That's happened to me three times.
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Speaker 1: That's happened to me over five times. It's happened to
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Speaker 1: me personally me Yola, I've been lied up. I've been
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Speaker 1: lied to by men who will hide their girlfriends that
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Speaker 1: they live with, who will hide their entire kids. Why
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Speaker 1: because they want to hook up. Because they want to
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Speaker 1: hook up and it's a hot mess. So yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: something that I think all of us have some kind
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Speaker 1: of insight into this. It's kind of like it's an
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Speaker 1: end cut secret, like you know and you know, and
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Speaker 1: you know, and it's talked about and it's just like
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Speaker 1: it's it's in the music, Like there's talks of like
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Speaker 1: the side chick and the other woman, like we can
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Speaker 1: talk about like Latino music, Latin American music, Mexican music. Right.
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Speaker 1: The themes are like throughout in TV and novellas, there's
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Speaker 1: always themes related to having the side chick or the
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Speaker 1: separate family. Yeah, so it's like you see it on
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Speaker 1: like your the cultural side maybe that like I shouldn't
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Speaker 1: say the cultural side. You see it on like maybe
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Speaker 1: the family, the family, right, the familiar, the familiar y familiar. Um.
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Speaker 1: So you see it on that side, right, and you
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Speaker 1: know it's either you're affected by it. I like it
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Speaker 1: makes me think about like so say you're okay, no
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Speaker 1: we're talking. I'm we're gonna sent her the side chick.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. We're not we're not talking about the
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Speaker 1: first centering. We're talking about the secondary part. Yes, I'm not.
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Speaker 1: I'm not even going to talk about we're talking about
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Speaker 1: so you know what scratched that? Everybody? Sorry, look, i'est
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later another time, another another um.
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Speaker 1: So you you deal with it on the family side, right,
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Speaker 1: and then you have to be out and about in
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Speaker 1: the world wondering if the person that's lying next to you,
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Speaker 1: that's texting you, that is saying that they care about you,
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Speaker 1: do they have another partner, the person that is actively
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Speaker 1: and a lot of times aggressively pursuing you, intentionally pursuing you.
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Speaker 1: You gotta you have to wonder do you have a
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Speaker 1: whole last family that you're hiding? And it may sound crazy,
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Speaker 1: but you have to wonder. You have to have to wonder.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, It's funny because I found myself
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Speaker 1: being quote crazy because when my current partner and I
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Speaker 1: were just dating, we weren't like in a relationship yet
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Speaker 1: he like went upstairs to or he went into his
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Speaker 1: apartment without me, and he was like, I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: grab something real quick. He was going to change something.
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Speaker 1: So when he came back, I was like, Oh, were
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Speaker 1: you hiding this and this and this and that? Right?
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Speaker 1: And I was like, how joking? Half serious? And he
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Speaker 1: couldn't tell. He was like, wait, you know that it's
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Speaker 1: just you, right, And I was like, do one right?
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Speaker 1: And that sounds crazy, But the thing is you've you've
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Speaker 1: had that experience where someone is lying to you about
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Speaker 1: being available when they're not not available at all. So
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Speaker 1: then exactly so then those little things you're like, wait
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Speaker 1: a second, is this a red flag? Is this a
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Speaker 1: red flag? Because I've seen this before? Exactly Hell yeah.
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Speaker 1: And even we're young, I'm like, we're not that old,
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Speaker 1: but already I have had these experiences with men who
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Speaker 1: are not even old men, middle aged men. Their men
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Speaker 1: in their twenties. Men in their twenties will lie about
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Speaker 1: their kids and obviously, Like I dealt with a guy
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Speaker 1: who I was dating him for months before home girl
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Speaker 1: called me to let me know, Oh, by the way,
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Speaker 1: he has a girlfriend that he lives with BT dubs. Right.
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Speaker 1: I was dating a guy and it was six months
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Speaker 1: before he told me that he had a twelve year
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Speaker 1: old son. Honey, okay, no sign of his child anywhere,
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Speaker 1: not in his house, not in his room. He wasn't
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Speaker 1: going to visit him. Hot mess. Our home girls. We
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Speaker 1: had a home girl who like twice in like two
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Speaker 1: three months, we go out, runs into two separate guys
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Speaker 1: and later to find out that both of them had
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Speaker 1: like newborn babies and fiance's But there they were approaching her,
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Speaker 1: wanting to take her out, wanting to see her, see
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Speaker 1: her on this date because they had this time. But
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Speaker 1: actually they were probably just at their family. They were
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Speaker 1: just with their children and their wives. Yeah, like pro tip,
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Speaker 1: if you can't see him on the weekends, if you
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Speaker 1: can't go over to his place, if he only comes
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Speaker 1: to you, there's something, there's something you gotta you gotta
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Speaker 1: check it out, and you have to ask. And he
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Speaker 1: has a child? Why somebody? And so here's and so
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Speaker 1: what's okay? Okay? So what's really t So we don't
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Speaker 1: like side chicks in real life? Side chicks are negative.
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Speaker 1: But how many of us have stumbled into the side
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Speaker 1: chick role because men are fucking liars and withhold information
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Speaker 1: intentionally because they don't want you to say no to them, right,
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Speaker 1: because of their real life situations. They withhold their true
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Speaker 1: selves so that you can't reject them. And now you
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Speaker 1: have been put into the place of the side chick.
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Speaker 1: So what do you do? Do you get out of it?
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Speaker 1: I mean you're already say your months in, right, and
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Speaker 1: you find out, what do you do? You know? I think,
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Speaker 1: to each their own, to each their own, you do you?
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Speaker 1: Because historically there are so many examples. There are the
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Speaker 1: side chicks who ends up, the wife who ends up,
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Speaker 1: the next life partner, who ends up the next baby mother.
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Speaker 1: Let's take Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowls. Right, Prince Charles,
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Speaker 1: Prince Charles was married to Princess Diana. Right, she famously
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Speaker 1: divorced him. And you don't do that. You don't divorce
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Speaker 1: a royal, you don't divorce a prince. But she did
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Speaker 1: because his ass was cheating on her. Right, I was,
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Speaker 1: we were doing some light research before this episode, right,
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Speaker 1: And so I guess Prince Charles started seeing Camilla Parker
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Speaker 1: Bowls his quote unquote mistress um only like a year
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Speaker 1: after he married Diana, right, and that he was seeing
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Speaker 1: her and engaging with her. Well, I get married exactly,
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Speaker 1: so why married Diana? But anyway, so Diana dies, we
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Speaker 1: all know that the queen murdered her like she was murdered.
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Speaker 1: This is also an unkept secret. This is an unkept secret.
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Speaker 1: She was murdered and Camilla is still around. Home Girl
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Speaker 1: is still around and they're married. Now, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when you're a side chick at that level,
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Speaker 1: like your royal side chick, I think that gives you
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Speaker 1: more leeway to like, yeah, I can get married and
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Speaker 1: we can kind of smooth this out and make it
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Speaker 1: okay and a little bit socially acceptable. Right. That makes
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Speaker 1: me think, well, we're going to get into the like,
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Speaker 1: we're going to get into that in a little bit
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Speaker 1: more more like actual examples of people like right, So
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Speaker 1: I think for now we'll do a song break. Oh
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Speaker 1: my god, already already I'm dying, I know, But we'll
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Speaker 1: come back to this question, what do you do when
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Speaker 1: you find yourself in the position as of the side chick.
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Speaker 1: We're going to come back because we have examples of
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Speaker 1: side chicks. We have examples you'll probably know famous side
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Speaker 1: chicks of history essentially essentially, which I think could be
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Speaker 1: its own university lecture, like a women's studies lecture. Let
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Speaker 1: us do it, bring us out, y'all, that's our next workshop.
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Speaker 1: Side chick culture. Yeah, that's going to be the name
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Speaker 1: of yah side chick culture. And it was all right
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Speaker 1: and friends and friends and and friends and spend it
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Speaker 1: and and sends back and friends from from from from
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Speaker 1: from it and ship and we're back. So, yes, you're
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Speaker 1: my little secret, the unkept secret. All right, So we
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Speaker 1: want to get into so as always we advocate for women, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and like uplifting them, empowering them. So, actually what we
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Speaker 1: want to do with this capitulo like talking about side checks,
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Speaker 1: like yeah, it can be funny, Yeah, I can, like
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Speaker 1: maybe we've been one or weld on or they're in
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Speaker 1: our family. Whatever we've we've we've had to had a
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Speaker 1: face down with one ourselves exactly. We also want to
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Speaker 1: complicate like historical side chicks. As always, we always want
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Speaker 1: to offer a different practice, a different lens, all of that.
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Speaker 1: So we actually want to talk about Amber Fry. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so we're talking about some famous side chicks in history
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Speaker 1: who have been on TV, who have been basically like
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Speaker 1: pop culture, popular culture like subjects you know that people
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Speaker 1: have talked about, debated about. Now I like Amber Fry.
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Speaker 1: I like talking about Amber Fry. Let's talk about her.
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Speaker 1: Let's give her some history some context. So if if
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Speaker 1: you all remember I don't even remember what year it was,
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Speaker 1: but if you remember the Lacy Peterson Scott Peterson case.
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Speaker 1: We'll give a brief summary. Right, So Lacy Peterson, who
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Speaker 1: her maiden name or her mother's name was, right, and
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Speaker 1: so we think, and she was a brown woman. She
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Speaker 1: was a Latino, right, her married name was Peterson, but
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Speaker 1: she was a Latina. She married this man named Scott Peterson.
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Speaker 1: She was pregnant with his child, and it was around
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Speaker 1: Christmas time. I think it was like Christmas Day, and um,
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Speaker 1: we this is important for us. This came up recently
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Speaker 1: because when THEOSA and I sat down together to be
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Speaker 1: dazzle our headphones, the Lacy Peterson story was on TV.
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Speaker 1: We're watching it, and we're watching it and deconstructing ship
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Speaker 1: while the dazzling exactly like how else would we do it?
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Speaker 1: So Lazy Peterson marries this guy, Scott Peterson, She's pregnant
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Speaker 1: with his child. It's around Christmas time. She goes missing.
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Speaker 1: Scott like calls people, sounds the alarm, calls the police,
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Speaker 1: and an investigation begins. So he was you know, obviously,
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Speaker 1: anytime a woman, a married woman, a woman in a
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Speaker 1: relationship is murdered or go missing, the first person for
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Speaker 1: the most part, that law enforcement will look at an interview,
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Speaker 1: is the male partner is the husband, Because, like we've
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Speaker 1: talked about in the United States and globally for women,
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Speaker 1: the person most likely to murder you statistically is your partner,
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Speaker 1: most especially a male partner, a current or former father
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Speaker 1: of your kids. You're hooking up, he's your husband, he's
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Speaker 1: your boyfriend. That's the one most likely to kill you.
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Speaker 1: So they're looking at Scott right when this is happening,
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Speaker 1: and he's being kind of weird, and he's kind of
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Speaker 1: he's kind of been shifty. He's involved in the best investigation,
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Speaker 1: but not really. And then one day there's this press
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Speaker 1: conference and this story breaks. This blonde woman named Amber
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Speaker 1: comes forward and gives a statement to the press about
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Speaker 1: how all this time she has been having an affair
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Speaker 1: with Scott Peterson, and she realized that something was wrong
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Speaker 1: and something was fishy because in his communications with her,
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Speaker 1: he was like communicating with her and carrying on with
20:52
Speaker 1: this affair even like when Lacy was gone, when she
20:56
Speaker 1: write when she was missing, reported miss when she was
20:58
Speaker 1: reported missing, and he is being really creepy with her,
21:01
Speaker 1: And she started to see the news and she realized, like,
21:04
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the guy whose wife is
21:07
Speaker 1: gone and he's over here like having this affair with
21:10
Speaker 1: me and like not giving a ship. Right. So she
21:13
Speaker 1: came forward and she provided all this evidence, and she
21:16
Speaker 1: really broke the case and was the reason why the
21:18
Speaker 1: attention really went back and turned onto Scott Peterson. So
21:21
Speaker 1: here you have a quote unquote a side chick, a
21:24
Speaker 1: side piece, the other woman the mistress. But she stepped
21:28
Speaker 1: in and she made a huge impact, right, And we
21:31
Speaker 1: later we come to find he had killed Lacy. He
21:34
Speaker 1: dumped her body like in the ocean or in a lake,
21:38
Speaker 1: and she and the baby washed up on shore. And
21:40
Speaker 1: it was this awful, horrible, horrible, horrible case. Right. Yeah.
21:43
Speaker 1: I remember as a child that was one of the
21:46
Speaker 1: first cases that I ever saw televised. And I remember
21:49
Speaker 1: like my mom following it and it being like a
21:52
Speaker 1: conversation with a lot of women in my life because
21:54
Speaker 1: it's something that shakes you, like this very pregnant woman
21:58
Speaker 1: was murdered by her husband. She was like eight months pregnant.
22:01
Speaker 1: She was visibly pregnant, not like much the secret. No. Yeah,
22:06
Speaker 1: So Amber Fry. I love Amber Fry, and I love
22:10
Speaker 1: the way that she came forward and the way that
22:15
Speaker 1: she asserted herself to to say no, this man, it's him.
22:20
Speaker 1: He did it, and she also outed herself as laud
22:23
Speaker 1: and it is a sort of thing because of the stigma.
22:28
Speaker 1: And also like to think about that she was seeing
22:31
Speaker 1: Scott Peterson, who's obviously a murderer and abusive man. Right,
22:36
Speaker 1: what kind of relationship did they have? Was it because
22:41
Speaker 1: it was so early on, was it like the honeymoon stage?
22:44
Speaker 1: Did she was she able to kind of be saved
22:47
Speaker 1: because it never she never got the other side of it, right,
22:50
Speaker 1: the abusive side. They were still in the good stage,
22:52
Speaker 1: right before he snapped exactly, and or before she was
22:57
Speaker 1: really cemented in his life because he didn't kill Lacey
23:00
Speaker 1: until she was how many months pregnant, already married to him,
23:03
Speaker 1: right exactly, Amber didn't get to that point of being
23:07
Speaker 1: so entrenched in his life. The mind games also begin
23:09
Speaker 1: because that is abusive abuse tactics exactly exactly. So that's
23:14
Speaker 1: a really important like in history and important side. Chick
23:19
Speaker 1: I would say, well, what do y'all think? What do
23:23
Speaker 1: you guys do you remember? I'm sure a lot of
23:26
Speaker 1: you remember Lacy Peterson and Scott Peterson And he's still
23:29
Speaker 1: in prison and there's still and you know what's scary
23:31
Speaker 1: is that there are men out there that advocate for him,
23:34
Speaker 1: saying that he was, you know, innocent, and that the
23:39
Speaker 1: media like villanized him that ship. Yeah, and there are
23:43
Speaker 1: people out there that like actually think he's innocent. There
23:46
Speaker 1: are men out there, and I'm sure there's women as well.
23:49
Speaker 1: And the scary part if you think if we're thinking
23:51
Speaker 1: about inadvertently becoming the side chick, right, because again, men lie.
23:55
Speaker 1: They men lie every day all day. Right. She was
24:01
Speaker 1: talking to and being intimate and dealing with a murderer
24:05
Speaker 1: and she had no idea. You know, it's like, who
24:09
Speaker 1: is the person laying next to you? Do you take
24:12
Speaker 1: them at their word for who they are or do
24:15
Speaker 1: you like you're talking like you were saying earlier, do
24:17
Speaker 1: you act like a look a kind of crazy and
24:19
Speaker 1: ask questions and go through their ship to find out
24:22
Speaker 1: if you're dealing with a murderer or a liar? Right?
24:26
Speaker 1: So Amber five, good side chick, tell us what you
24:29
Speaker 1: think about that? Yes, I think let's we can move
24:31
Speaker 1: on to the next one. I think, like historically literally
24:34
Speaker 1: and it makes me feel like so sad in a
24:37
Speaker 1: way that I wonder how if she was able able
24:40
Speaker 1: to ever really live a full life post this, at least,
24:43
Speaker 1: like I feel like she probably had to maneuver and
24:45
Speaker 1: like be very strategic about the way she lived her life.
24:48
Speaker 1: But Monica Lewinsky by Monica Monica. I want to call
24:52
Speaker 1: her Monica because I want to. I want her to
24:54
Speaker 1: be my cousin Monica girl, like give us all you know,
24:59
Speaker 1: I want to of her love. She wrote this article
25:02
Speaker 1: not too long ago, or she was interviewed, and I
25:05
Speaker 1: read this interview with her, and it was very sad.
25:08
Speaker 1: Her life was ruined after the whole blow up and
25:12
Speaker 1: it was found out about her affair with former President
25:15
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. Her life was fucking destroyed. People hate her,
25:21
Speaker 1: hate her, like death threats, shouting at her on the street, online,
25:28
Speaker 1: difficulty with work opportunities, just like she is one of
25:31
Speaker 1: those names that is always there's always vitriol like that follows.
25:36
Speaker 1: And I think, and I don't really remember at the
25:40
Speaker 1: time like this happening, but I do, like I can
25:42
Speaker 1: say now, like the way she was slug shamed in
25:45
Speaker 1: all of it, Where where was you know Bill Clinton? Right?
25:48
Speaker 1: And like and then even like Hillary Clinton will like
25:50
Speaker 1: when to you like frame it like very sexist, like
25:55
Speaker 1: when she was running for president, not of course, not
25:57
Speaker 1: in defense of her at all, but even like, oh,
25:58
Speaker 1: she can't even keep her manage. There was a lot
26:01
Speaker 1: of there was a lot of comments like that, like
26:02
Speaker 1: she can't even maintain a marriage, and you want her
26:04
Speaker 1: to run a country? Right, as if it was her
26:07
Speaker 1: fault that her husband was with another one. She was
26:11
Speaker 1: Hilary is responsible for the infidelity exactly, and Bill is
26:14
Speaker 1: not responsible for anything at all, right, And Monica is
26:18
Speaker 1: was responsible for being a slut, for being a little tart,
26:23
Speaker 1: which is what she was called. And she was fat
26:26
Speaker 1: shamed also because she was a bigger girl at the time.
26:30
Speaker 1: And if you think about it, she was so young,
26:32
Speaker 1: she was in her early twenties and she was working
26:35
Speaker 1: as a White House aide. So what does that mean
26:38
Speaker 1: when a man in power praise on a young woman.
26:42
Speaker 1: That is rape culture. It is abused, It is an
26:45
Speaker 1: imbalance of power, and there is nobody with more power
26:49
Speaker 1: than the President of the United States. For the President
26:52
Speaker 1: of the United States to pray on a twentysomething year
26:55
Speaker 1: old staffer is rape culture and is abusive. But he really,
26:58
Speaker 1: if we really think about it, Bill Clinton is still
27:01
Speaker 1: very much loved. People like Bill Slick Willie like people.
27:06
Speaker 1: And when men mistreat women, when men have affairs, when
27:09
Speaker 1: men cheat, it's like their social status is actually upped.
27:14
Speaker 1: There's kind of like a folk like a lore about them.
27:17
Speaker 1: Like people like that. People think it's very masculine, you know,
27:22
Speaker 1: And so I think it actually does good for men
27:25
Speaker 1: when they have mistresses in a crazy way, right, It's
27:30
Speaker 1: kind of like asserting their masculinity in a way. It's like, oh,
27:32
Speaker 1: they can have multiple women, they can spread their seed.
27:37
Speaker 1: I also think that men actually like it when they
27:40
Speaker 1: see a public figure disrespect women, you know, like it's
27:45
Speaker 1: points not only to have sexual conquests over women, but
27:49
Speaker 1: to publicly disrespect or harm women actually gives men a
27:53
Speaker 1: lot of cool points. We could talk about Chris Brown.
27:57
Speaker 1: How has Chris Brown's career been affected after he tempted
28:00
Speaker 1: to murder Rhianna And let's get let's be clear. You
28:03
Speaker 1: saw those photos. He attempted to kill her. He didn't
28:06
Speaker 1: just slap her, which is not to minimize but he
28:09
Speaker 1: attempted to kill her, right, and he he's doing just
28:12
Speaker 1: fine career life, even after he abused Caruci as well
28:16
Speaker 1: in addition, so Monica has gotten the short of the
28:20
Speaker 1: end of the stick. But I like you, Monica, I
28:22
Speaker 1: love you girl. You know, Bill is a nasty old
28:25
Speaker 1: man and he took advantage. And she is a famous
28:28
Speaker 1: side chick who shall not be forgotten. And she's more
28:32
Speaker 1: than a side. She's more than a side. She's more
28:34
Speaker 1: than a side. Absolutely, m M, my heart, my love
28:39
Speaker 1: for her, Monica for Monica, for like not And I
28:43
Speaker 1: say this like obviously very this is a blanket statement,
28:47
Speaker 1: but it's like, was she ever to really move past this?
28:50
Speaker 1: Obviously I don't know, I do not know her. I
28:52
Speaker 1: would like to know you girl, Um, but when was
28:56
Speaker 1: she able to have like a full life, like I
28:57
Speaker 1: already said, like I wonder I know she did a
28:59
Speaker 1: ted to recently about like the dangers of like bullying
29:04
Speaker 1: essentially and like having this quote like reputation for doing
29:07
Speaker 1: something right and not being able to move past that
29:10
Speaker 1: ever ever, ever, literally ever, Like what does that mean?
29:14
Speaker 1: A name change? Like what would you have to do?
29:16
Speaker 1: It is also very interesting that she didn't change her name.
29:20
Speaker 1: I wonder if that was a power move, and like,
29:22
Speaker 1: you know what fukali y'all for slut shaming? Me whatever,
29:28
Speaker 1: I respect it, I respect. I have a lot of
29:29
Speaker 1: respect for Monica Lewinsky, and that's that I have. I
29:34
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for a lot of villainized
29:36
Speaker 1: women in history. Same here because somewhere in there, and
29:40
Speaker 1: this is where we bring in, Somewhere in there, when
29:42
Speaker 1: that woman is being villainized and slut shame, that tells
29:45
Speaker 1: me that that woman on some level is a survivor.
29:48
Speaker 1: There's a survivor narrative there. Absolutely, if we can say
29:51
Speaker 1: that Bill Clinton abused and took advantage of this young woman,
29:54
Speaker 1: then we can say that she's a survivor, and this
29:56
Speaker 1: is a survivor narrative exactly. And same with Amber Fry.
30:00
Speaker 1: She was potentially going into the arms of this of
30:03
Speaker 1: someone that would have murdered her had he not been caught. Absolutely,
30:07
Speaker 1: absolutely survivor narratives. And again, like even like talking about folklore, right,
30:14
Speaker 1: like you can talk about examples across culture. In almost
30:18
Speaker 1: every like Latin American culture, there's some type of mythology
30:24
Speaker 1: right about like how the that nation, how those people
30:27
Speaker 1: came to be, right, and there's usually some type of
30:30
Speaker 1: a female figure involved. We could talk about in the
30:32
Speaker 1: United States, the idea of Pocahonas. The popular idea of
30:36
Speaker 1: Pocahonas is that she was a Native woman who was
30:40
Speaker 1: like fraternizing with white colonists and helping them out and
30:44
Speaker 1: showing them around. In real life, Pocahonas was a child.
30:47
Speaker 1: She was a child who was taken, who was es
30:50
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted, who was kidnapped, who was used, was a survivor.
30:55
Speaker 1: But the native woman, the woman of color, is framed
30:58
Speaker 1: as the trader we could talk about in Mexico, which
31:02
Speaker 1: we talked about in our first very first kind in
31:05
Speaker 1: lookupistemologies are survivor narratives, right, So yeah, I mean it's
31:10
Speaker 1: just like this continuous like thread when a woman is
31:13
Speaker 1: being sledge shamed on that level and being blamed for
31:16
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship, I can guarantee you know, there's
31:19
Speaker 1: a survivor history there, someone that was sludge shamed for
31:25
Speaker 1: doing some albeit like shady things. I was also slut shamed,
31:30
Speaker 1: but also thinking how I was in a very unhealthy relationship.
31:33
Speaker 1: So how was I trying to get out of it?
31:35
Speaker 1: How was I trying to finally set myself free? Not
31:38
Speaker 1: in the best way, but in the only way that
31:40
Speaker 1: I think I knew how or that I thought was
31:42
Speaker 1: available to me. Right, So, always reframing things, especially when
31:46
Speaker 1: it comes to women and sex and sex and who
31:50
Speaker 1: else do we have on our list of famous side checks? Yeah,
31:53
Speaker 1: so we have actually, right, poor Frida another one my heart? Yes,
32:01
Speaker 1: so she as you all know, like, and I think
32:03
Speaker 1: it's really interesting because I think because they're both artists,
32:07
Speaker 1: but FRIDAO and Dio Riverda's relationship is very much romanticized,
32:12
Speaker 1: very much, so it was very toxic, and we know
32:16
Speaker 1: that it was an abusive relationship. And we know that
32:19
Speaker 1: he had multiple side chicks, right or right, because there's
32:24
Speaker 1: always the other side of the coin. You either are
32:27
Speaker 1: the main. At one point you're the main, and then
32:30
Speaker 1: at one point you're probably the side right one point
32:33
Speaker 1: or another. Right. So, and also like, and I'm thinking
32:38
Speaker 1: more of like the movie interpretation of Frida, right, and
32:41
Speaker 1: how that I was married, right and even though she
32:45
Speaker 1: didn't meet, she didn't fall in love with him maybe
32:47
Speaker 1: when he was married, Like, was she the side chick
32:50
Speaker 1: in some way? At some point? Was there an emotional affair?
32:53
Speaker 1: I wonder was there like an artistic affair bonding over
32:57
Speaker 1: their art together kinds? But she started out Yeah, on
33:02
Speaker 1: the side, right or she yeah, right? So then she
33:05
Speaker 1: married him and then had to deal with all these sides,
33:09
Speaker 1: all these other women involved, right, and like also she
33:12
Speaker 1: had her own affairs as well. So you know, I
33:17
Speaker 1: want to celebrate that that she was able to, you know,
33:21
Speaker 1: have many lovers, have many partners outside of her marriage,
33:25
Speaker 1: maybe not because she wanted to, like intentionally or originally,
33:30
Speaker 1: but ended up having like just you know what, He's
33:32
Speaker 1: going to do what he wants, So why can't I
33:35
Speaker 1: does that make sense? Like do you you know, like
33:39
Speaker 1: we can both play this game. We can both do dirt.
33:43
Speaker 1: It's not that difficult. Mm hmm. But where don't you say?
33:47
Speaker 1: But so Diego did he not? Did he also sleep
33:50
Speaker 1: with Frieda's sister? I was saying that, yeah he did.
33:54
Speaker 1: Diego was listen, Diego Rivera was a fun boy to
33:57
Speaker 1: end all boys. He was as our most men in history,
34:00
Speaker 1: as are most of our cultural heroes for men that
34:03
Speaker 1: are celebrated boys. Anyways, we'll talk about that later, will
34:09
Speaker 1: slander them later, right, So, I mean, I think the
34:14
Speaker 1: first three that we talked about, like we really really
34:16
Speaker 1: wanted to complicate them, complicate their stories, talk about them
34:23
Speaker 1: in a survivor lens, because that is what local radio
34:26
Speaker 1: is about, right, always thinking, always maybe reconstructing survivor narratives.
34:31
Speaker 1: Um so. And then we also just want to talk
34:33
Speaker 1: about just point blank famous side chicks, right, Angelina and Jolie,
34:38
Speaker 1: O God and famous, real famous. Right. So I'm sure
34:42
Speaker 1: y'all know she was recently divorced Brad Pitts prior he
34:48
Speaker 1: was married to my favor, Jennifer Aniston. I love her,
34:51
Speaker 1: love Jennifer Aniston. She feels like to me, like just
34:54
Speaker 1: like your neighbor. You know, she's super, She's like the girl,
34:58
Speaker 1: She's the girl next door in the sweetest way. Anyway,
35:01
Speaker 1: he was married to her soon when they were filming Angelina,
35:05
Speaker 1: Jolie and Brad pitt when they were filming Mr. And
35:07
Speaker 1: Mrs Smith. They fell in love while he was still
35:10
Speaker 1: married to her, while he was still married, and it
35:12
Speaker 1: was a scandal. I remember, we have so many memories
35:18
Speaker 1: tied to famous sides ships. I think maybe we can't
35:21
Speaker 1: recall all of them now. But it's pop culture. Absolutely,
35:26
Speaker 1: we love pop culture. We love it like whether or
35:29
Speaker 1: not you like it, it informs your life, whether or
35:33
Speaker 1: not you're you like like to read the gossip magazines.
35:37
Speaker 1: The gossip is still there, watch t MZ, whatever it.
35:41
Speaker 1: There's a market for it. Informs your life, whether you
35:44
Speaker 1: like it or not. And I love it. I love it. Yeah,
35:47
Speaker 1: it's a guilty pleasure of mind or not so guilty.
35:49
Speaker 1: I just like it. I just like it, you know what.
35:51
Speaker 1: I like it anyway. And Angelina is like another one
35:54
Speaker 1: like Camilla Parker, you know, stayed, stayed through it, married him,
36:01
Speaker 1: had a trillion kids and adopted all these kids with
36:03
Speaker 1: Brad and now they're Splitsville. And this brings us to
36:09
Speaker 1: write this idea which didn't happen in this case. But
36:12
Speaker 1: there's also this idea out there that like, you lose
36:14
Speaker 1: him the way that you got him, right, So that's like,
36:18
Speaker 1: I guess the risk you run, the risk that you
36:20
Speaker 1: run by being the side chick when you're the side
36:23
Speaker 1: chick and then become the primary right when you and
36:27
Speaker 1: then become La Nica? Are you really? Law Nika? Are
36:30
Speaker 1: you really? Because they're because there's the saying, right, once
36:33
Speaker 1: a cheater, always a cheater, right, And so like me
36:35
Speaker 1: with my situation right that I was talking about, um,
36:40
Speaker 1: seeing this guy turns out that he has a girlfriend, blah,
36:42
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah blah. I experience right, like fake Instagram
36:46
Speaker 1: prof She was making fake Instagram profiles about me and
36:50
Speaker 1: calling me a slug and and I'm a suck everybody's
36:54
Speaker 1: dick and all this ship. Yeah, okay, it was hilarious.
36:58
Speaker 1: It was actually really funny. She had people calling me
37:01
Speaker 1: on fake numbers. So for me, I'm a better person now,
37:05
Speaker 1: I've evolved and I've changed. But at the time, I
37:07
Speaker 1: was on some petty ship and I was like, you
37:10
Speaker 1: know what, I think. I'm just going to keep him
37:13
Speaker 1: if that's how you want to be, right, I'm gonna
37:15
Speaker 1: show you basically, and I did, but that's always running
37:19
Speaker 1: through your mind. I'm gonna lose him the way that
37:21
Speaker 1: I got him. Once a cheater, always a cheater. How
37:23
Speaker 1: do I trust him when this is probably the same
37:25
Speaker 1: ship that he was telling her once upon a time,
37:28
Speaker 1: exactly right? So yeah, basically, men are terrible. Men are terrible.
37:33
Speaker 1: And no, I don't think you should assume that he's
37:35
Speaker 1: going to change just for you. He won't. He won't.
37:39
Speaker 1: He's not going to show me a man that did.
37:42
Speaker 1: And I'll believe you. Crickets, crickets. I would like to
37:48
Speaker 1: know also because like getting personal, my father was like
37:53
Speaker 1: and like that I know of you know, there has
37:57
Speaker 1: been no one that I know, you know what, right,
38:01
Speaker 1: But I don't think he changed, you know no. I
38:04
Speaker 1: mean now he's you know, older, so maybe it's like
38:07
Speaker 1: down just like I don't think that man changed. If
38:11
Speaker 1: my own father could not, would not did not change,
38:15
Speaker 1: then who who please? Uh? And they're so bold to like,
38:20
Speaker 1: oh my god. So I went to a Catholic school, right,
38:22
Speaker 1: Catholic elementary school in Manavello. And in Monavello there's a
38:26
Speaker 1: lot of like, um like like Latinos who are also
38:30
Speaker 1: business owners and entrepreneurs. It's a very like middle class
38:33
Speaker 1: like Latino like area Manavello. Right, So um, I like
38:36
Speaker 1: to say, these people they had tortilla money. They were
38:39
Speaker 1: tortilla people because they owned like tortilla factories. There was
38:42
Speaker 1: one family that was like the tortilla chip people. They
38:45
Speaker 1: had tortilla chip money. But these are the this was
38:47
Speaker 1: the tortilla money, dying corn tortillas specifically. So this man Mexican.
38:52
Speaker 1: Obviously he had his multiple women, He had multiple families, kids,
38:58
Speaker 1: different kids with different women, don't you know. He had
39:00
Speaker 1: all of his kids from all of the women all
39:02
Speaker 1: enrolled at the same Catholic school see Ultimate Ultimate. They
39:09
Speaker 1: would the mothers, they would go pick up each other's kids.
39:12
Speaker 1: Sometimes there would be fights, drama, drama, and like that's
39:17
Speaker 1: the risk you also run dealing with the cheater. I
39:20
Speaker 1: was about to say, it might be one of many
39:21
Speaker 1: family want to deal with that kind of stres You know,
39:26
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stress. I think it's one thing
39:28
Speaker 1: when maybe you're it's just a it's an affair, it's
39:31
Speaker 1: a fling. But if you fall in love, you get pregnant,
39:34
Speaker 1: if you have a family, that's when it's drama. Think
39:39
Speaker 1: about a lot of drama because I think also like thinking,
39:44
Speaker 1: it's like we always want to protect women. We don't
39:47
Speaker 1: want to shame women. So if you are the side chick,
39:50
Speaker 1: like okay, cool, I'm not shaming you. But also we
39:53
Speaker 1: want to protect each other. So that's also important. Regardless
39:58
Speaker 1: of like the nature or of your relationship with this person.
40:03
Speaker 1: Are you safe, are you being harmed or are you cool? Yes?
40:07
Speaker 1: Are you making decisions for yourself or for him, or
40:10
Speaker 1: for him or for the person? Right? Is it because
40:12
Speaker 1: they're promising you the moon and the stars. Don't believe it.
40:15
Speaker 1: They can't give that to you. They can They don't
40:17
Speaker 1: have it, Ladies, none of these men have it. They're
40:19
Speaker 1: all broke. I promise you that they don't have it,
40:22
Speaker 1: and they can't provide you what they say they can.
40:24
Speaker 1: Don't believe them. It's a fucking line. Anyways, back to
40:28
Speaker 1: our list of famous side chips. So we're going to
40:30
Speaker 1: actually finish with one um the side chick Glorified, Glorified,
40:40
Speaker 1: loved invigebrated Marilyn Monroe for four supposedly engaging in the
40:47
Speaker 1: same behavior as who Monica Winsky, but it was never
40:50
Speaker 1: like proven. It was assumed it was with the nature
40:54
Speaker 1: of their relationship with John F. Kennedy. With John F. Kennedy,
40:59
Speaker 1: the way she publicly saying Happy Birthday, a very very
41:05
Speaker 1: sexy with it. Absolutely yeah. So, I mean the idea
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Speaker 1: of her sleeping with the president everybody, it's hot, right,
41:17
Speaker 1: she was sleeping with amount of power. But we don't
41:19
Speaker 1: we don't really know. We don't really know. But a
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Speaker 1: woman that actually did, it's shameful. He was married, right,
41:25
Speaker 1: he's the president of the United States. Exactly what is that?
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Speaker 1: What is that hypocrisy? It's virgin Horn's economy is that
41:34
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it is who's the virgin? Well,
41:37
Speaker 1: Marilyn necessarily isn't the virgin. But it's like, can she
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Speaker 1: really be the bad? Can she really be the myla?
41:42
Speaker 1: If it's not proven? I see what you're saying, you
41:45
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So Monica is actually the boot,
41:47
Speaker 1: that she's actually the whore? There there was video, right,
41:52
Speaker 1: So Marilyn, even though I don't think anybody would say like,
41:54
Speaker 1: oh she was the good one, she technically wasn't caught.
41:57
Speaker 1: So can she really have the role of the whore? Good?
42:00
Speaker 1: Good point? This is true, just a question. I'm using it.
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, thinking aloud, like process, it's like evidence space, right,
42:09
Speaker 1: It's like we have we have evidence, so now we
42:11
Speaker 1: can just drag you through the mud. We can put
42:14
Speaker 1: this scarlet letter on you, just like hester print scarlet letter.
42:19
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, there's a mark, but is now a
42:21
Speaker 1: mark that has been left? Right? And also I think
42:25
Speaker 1: maybe the nature of just you know, Marilyn Monroe dying right,
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Speaker 1: supposedly being murdered, possibly, like so can you really like
42:38
Speaker 1: dag her through the mud hate on her when she's right?
42:41
Speaker 1: When she died the way that she died exactly. This
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Speaker 1: is true, So I have questions. There's a lot to
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Speaker 1: impact their affairs with presidents hot or not. I can't tell.
42:54
Speaker 1: I mean Olivia Pope, history, Olivia Pope even fictional. But
43:01
Speaker 1: I love Olivia Pope. I do not like please girl,
43:04
Speaker 1: don't stay with fits like hate's so abusive, but it
43:08
Speaker 1: is sexy, it is fat right, Yeah, but you know.
43:14
Speaker 1: And cheese Man had tweeted not too long ago that
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Speaker 1: the real star of Scandal is Mellie. Millie is. Yeah,
43:19
Speaker 1: I could see that she has some great monologe. She
43:22
Speaker 1: does have some great moments. She does. There are times
43:25
Speaker 1: when I hate her, and there are times where I'm
43:27
Speaker 1: just like, yes, girl, yeah, I'm a fan for you.
43:31
Speaker 1: I agree. I like Millie. Yeah, I feel for her,
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Speaker 1: I really do. There are times when honestly, Olivia gets
43:36
Speaker 1: on my nerves. Same like stop it. But also she's Olivia.
43:39
Speaker 1: We stand for her. So I think, like, so we're
43:43
Speaker 1: wrapping up, and I think as always, like we already
43:47
Speaker 1: touched on the take, we want to take away to
43:50
Speaker 1: be have agency, always, agency of your body, over who
43:54
Speaker 1: you get into a relationship with, over if you leave
43:57
Speaker 1: or not. That should be a to you. That should
44:01
Speaker 1: be up to you and not up to anybody else.
44:05
Speaker 1: You know, as long as you are safe, you're not
44:07
Speaker 1: hurting yourself for others, like you know, do you? And
44:11
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of like, um, there's
44:14
Speaker 1: always a lot of discussion about this whole idea of well,
44:19
Speaker 1: if I'm not the one in the relationship, I'm not cheating,
44:22
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything right right, like women like sleeping
44:25
Speaker 1: with married men and things like that. It's like, well,
44:28
Speaker 1: he's the one that's married, he took vows, not me right, right.
44:32
Speaker 1: So I think that there's also a lot just there
44:35
Speaker 1: to like just it's complic worked through, but regardless of
44:39
Speaker 1: what your situation is, we want you to be okay,
44:42
Speaker 1: be safe all the time, like if because I'm I
44:47
Speaker 1: mean even MoMA, and I was telling MoMA, like I'm
44:50
Speaker 1: sure that there are women out there that enjoy not
44:53
Speaker 1: having to be in a relationship with a man, but
44:55
Speaker 1: getting to enjoy the perks of it, maybe the gifts,
44:57
Speaker 1: the dinners, the trips, but don't actually have to deal
45:00
Speaker 1: with the emotional responsibility with maybe being the fucking homemaker
45:05
Speaker 1: essentially that wives unfortunately can turn out to be and
45:09
Speaker 1: the exactly. So she gets to have the fun side
45:12
Speaker 1: of him or of them, right, gets to have the
45:14
Speaker 1: trips and the dinners and all of that. Right, you're
45:16
Speaker 1: nine to five and on the weekend and she's the weekend. Right,
45:19
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, Like, it's like if that's the situation
45:23
Speaker 1: that you're in, and you're like, that's what you want? Fine, right,
45:27
Speaker 1: Always like advocate for what you need and if you
45:29
Speaker 1: want to get out, get out exactly. You're not stuck.
45:32
Speaker 1: You shouldn't feel stuck ever. Ever, at any point in
45:35
Speaker 1: your life. Do not feel like you're stuck in this
45:37
Speaker 1: situation or you're forced to be with somebody or deal
45:40
Speaker 1: with somebody, or forced to deal with somebody and being
45:44
Speaker 1: a relationship on their terms. Right, the relationship it needs
45:49
Speaker 1: to be just as much on your terms as anything else.
45:52
Speaker 1: You don't have to make those types of compromises. You
45:54
Speaker 1: don't have to. You know, you can choose not to.
45:58
Speaker 1: I agree with you, all right. I think I think
46:02
Speaker 1: we're good. I think we're good. I think we had
46:04
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46:21
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46:25
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46:34
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48:05
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48:11
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48:18
Speaker 1: But like, I want to hear also from like maybe
48:21
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