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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimson with John
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Speaker 1: Oceans Bryan Sexton. Jacks Drive and starts right now, Everything little,
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Speaker 1: everything moving on, Harley, Harley, let go whoa four four
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Speaker 1: one scoop miked up against the Chiefs. You can check
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Speaker 1: out that full episode right now on Jaguars dot com.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Drive Time. Monday morning, a new week,
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Speaker 1: a new game week, a home game in the Sunday
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Speaker 1: against the Ravens. We are refreshed from the bye week
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Speaker 1: and back for seven more weeks. Ashlyn, Bryan, John here
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Speaker 1: with you on a Monday morning. Come on, come on,
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Speaker 1: because I was tired just watching it. I mean, smooth
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Speaker 1: places with such intensity and energy. He's fun to watch,
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Speaker 1: but chasing down Patrick Mahomes like you did on that
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Speaker 1: he needed a bye week, we all did, but especially
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Speaker 1: watching them, I need another one. He can be on
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Speaker 1: high on the list of needing a bye week, but
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Speaker 1: I think we're second, third and fourth, second, third and fourth,
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Speaker 1: whichever wonder you choose, and now we're back in second, third, fourth.
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Speaker 1: He gets to chase down the mar Jacks. Big yes,
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Speaker 1: big week this Sunday against the Ravens. Let's get into
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Speaker 1: big things. Big thing one is seven seven games remain
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Speaker 1: this season in two season Christian Kirk with a big
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Speaker 1: picture look of what this team wants to accomplish thrust
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Speaker 1: of the year, and you bring it around you know
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Speaker 1: that the same kind of guy that you're kind of
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Speaker 1: looking for. Um, you know, there's you know, you're building
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Speaker 1: something special and you know we know it right now.
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Speaker 1: The season hasn't really gone the way we wanted to,
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Speaker 1: but you know, you don't really feel anybody given up
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Speaker 1: or kind of cashing it in. You know, everybody's still
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Speaker 1: looking forward to you know, what's in front of us.
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Speaker 1: And those are the type of people you want to
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Speaker 1: be around and you want to go to work with
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Speaker 1: because it is a long season. The NFL is hard.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to win football games. But you know we're
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Speaker 1: here to to you know, produce championship level football and
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Speaker 1: so it's just all about believing, you know that we
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Speaker 1: can be the best. And so I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: that's my favorite part, you know, so far about being here.
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Speaker 1: It's just being a part of, you know, a special group.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too, is sixteen the rest of the season. Really,
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Speaker 1: the entire year has been about quarterback Trevor Lawrence making
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Speaker 1: progress coming off back to back consistent performances going into
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Speaker 1: the bye week. Head coach Doug Peterson on his progress,
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, get it, Um, it's part of it.
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Speaker 1: I think I think he's understanding, you know, our system better. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're we're recycling plays a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: So there's there's the verbiage and everything is sort of
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Speaker 1: you know, easier to just to spit out in the
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Speaker 1: huddle than say week one or even in training camp. Um,
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Speaker 1: and all of that really helps him, you know, in
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Speaker 1: his in his growth and really his development, and it's
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Speaker 1: all starting to sort of come together for and big
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Speaker 1: thing three is eighty five. Math is our strong suit
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Speaker 1: on this show. Forty four plus forty one equals eighty five.
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Speaker 1: Trademont Walker and Josh Allen, where is the past rush?
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Speaker 1: Where does the defund stand safety rateon? Jenkins on that? Yeah? Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I mean we've got seven games that we've seen that
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Speaker 1: three and seven. I mean we can finish with double
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Speaker 1: digit wins. But like I said, it's gonna be hard.
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Speaker 1: It it's gonna be hard, man. So everyone just needs
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Speaker 1: to be on this stuff. Um really be b B doubt. Man,
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Speaker 1: you gotta be doubt in this league. Loic. It's like
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Speaker 1: I said before, Man, it's Martin errors is it's small
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Speaker 1: and it's been and it's been killing us lately. Uh
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So and I mean, we
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Speaker 1: do have a young team, but we get we get paid,
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Speaker 1: you know, we get paid to do what we do.
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Speaker 1: So so we gotta come out of here before you
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Speaker 1: Now you have it. Those are a big things. The
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Speaker 1: bye week is complete, and everyone before the bike was
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Speaker 1: talking about using this week to fix that margin of
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Speaker 1: error and go through the tape and find out what
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Speaker 1: was going wrong and fix it quickly. With a talented
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Speaker 1: Ravens team coming in, there's a lot a lot to
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Speaker 1: fix on this to do list in the past over
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Speaker 1: the bye week. I wonder what's at the top of
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Speaker 1: their list. It's a good question. My guess is it
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Speaker 1: will be something to simplify and play faster on defense.
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Speaker 1: And that's not to say that they haven't been doing
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Speaker 1: some good things. But usually when at mid season when
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Speaker 1: coaches go and look and try to find out, okay,
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Speaker 1: what's going wrong, they usually come up with where we're
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Speaker 1: not going to fix it in terms of adding adding
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Speaker 1: pieces where can we get better? And usually coaches come
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Speaker 1: up with something, Okay, the guys need to play faster,
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Speaker 1: they need to be more aggressive, more aggressive, especially on defense,
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Speaker 1: and they need to play without thinking a little more.
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Speaker 1: So I would think you would see some some things simplified. Um.
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Speaker 1: The problem they so that on defense is I don't
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Speaker 1: know that they're a great man demand secondary. So when
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Speaker 1: you simplify, to figure out a way to do that
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Speaker 1: playing zone, Uh, and the pass rush needs to get
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Speaker 1: home more. And I think there's some things when you
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Speaker 1: say there's these huge heavy lifts. If they get a
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Speaker 1: little better pass rush lat in games and play better
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Speaker 1: in the red zone, they're a much better team. They're
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Speaker 1: not far. But I don't know that there's anything film
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Speaker 1: wise that they're gonna fix. It's just a matter of
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Speaker 1: continuing this process of getting better. You're talking about a
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Speaker 1: stop in the Washington game, stop in the game against
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Speaker 1: the Colts, stop against the Broncos. Which is the difference
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Speaker 1: right now between having six wins and having three wins
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Speaker 1: and Texans is what I mean? Yeah, I mean every
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Speaker 1: game except for the Chiefs, just a couple of those
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Speaker 1: where all you need to do is get, you know,
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Speaker 1: one stop to break serve. I'm going to chase down
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Speaker 1: Cody Grimm, the safety's coach, this week for my pregame
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Speaker 1: radio interview, and the safeties have played pretty well, but
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Speaker 1: in general, as you talked about John, the secondary needs
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Speaker 1: to hold up better. They need to figure out what
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Speaker 1: they're gonna do with that one corner. I don't think
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Speaker 1: we're gonna see the return of Shatt Griffin right He's
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Speaker 1: been on I R, but he's not going to be
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Speaker 1: here next year. His salary cap number says that he
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Speaker 1: won't be here next year. And so you you've been
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Speaker 1: going with Tray Herndon and we've seen some buster Brown.
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Speaker 1: If they can just solidify that, improve the coverage, that's
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Speaker 1: tough to make simple, but if you can do that,
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Speaker 1: it will help Josh Allen and tray Von Walker get there.
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Speaker 1: And really, to be honest, Trayvon Walker's pass rush is
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Speaker 1: all about the bull rush right now. I mean, anybody
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Speaker 1: that watches knows that it's about Josh Allen. Josh Allen
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Speaker 1: is the guy who can change the direction of a game.
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Speaker 1: They need more playmaking from him, like we saw here
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Speaker 1: in November last year against the Bills. Where he's sacking
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Speaker 1: the quarterback and intercepting the quarterback and forcing fumbles. They
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Speaker 1: need to do whatever they can to get him on track.
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Speaker 1: If they do, fourth quarters will be easier for this
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Speaker 1: team for sure. And it's all about Josh Allen, and
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has told us, hey, I need to play better.
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Speaker 1: And we all knew this was gonna come at some
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Speaker 1: point this season. I'm seeing I'm sure you all are
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Speaker 1: seeing it getting questions, well what about a Hudchinon. Look
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Speaker 1: how great he's doing Intotroit And we always knew they
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Speaker 1: weren't going to be the same player Trayvon Walker and Aiden,
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Speaker 1: But now you see the stats. I haven't seen Adan Hunchinsons.
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Speaker 1: Does he chase guys down for what are yards down
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Speaker 1: the field? On screen? Place after rushing the quarterback, turn
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Speaker 1: and run with the guy. Um. Look, the numbers were
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Speaker 1: always gonna favor eight Hunchardson this year because he's a
7:16
Speaker 1: more p and that, but that's what he is. He's
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Speaker 1: a past rusher. He's not a complete player like this
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Speaker 1: kid is going to be. It was always a futures
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Speaker 1: gamble on him, not this season, right, and we knew
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Speaker 1: this was coming. We knew that would happen midway through
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Speaker 1: the season when the stats showed up, and then Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: we have to talk about him. Big thing to sixteen
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Speaker 1: this season we always knew was about him. These next
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Speaker 1: seven weeks are certainly about him. But you love where
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Speaker 1: he's going, the progress going into the bye week of
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Speaker 1: consistent back to back performances, Right, I think I like
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Speaker 1: and ash, I think I like the fact that the
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Speaker 1: progress has been I say slow, but it's been steady. Um,
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Speaker 1: I think I feel more comfortable with that then if
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Speaker 1: we had seen, like, uh, a couple of unbelievable games
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Speaker 1: and then and then a drop off. I like what
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Speaker 1: I saw the last couple of weeks out of him
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Speaker 1: because I feel like it's very sustainable. Uh. What I
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Speaker 1: wonder is when are the gloves gonna come off a
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Speaker 1: little bit with the coaching staff and say, okay, Trevor,
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Speaker 1: it's it it's time to go downfield? Or is it
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Speaker 1: going to be a case where Trevor starts seeing it
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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not that he's not going downfield.
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Speaker 1: He throws the intermediate past very well. He's he's got
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Speaker 1: a rocket arm. You haven't seen those spectacular downfield plays.
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Speaker 1: Some of that I think is that is the receivers
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Speaker 1: aren't quite that kind of receiver yet. But you wonder
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Speaker 1: when you're gonna see the let loose play. But don't
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Speaker 1: you think some of that is the result of him
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Speaker 1: making errant throws, not being willing to take what they're
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Speaker 1: giving him. And they've wanted to coach him to find
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Speaker 1: what's there, Take what's there, I or you go down
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Speaker 1: And I think you're right. They don't have right now,
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Speaker 1: although they will next year with Calvin Ridley, have that
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Speaker 1: guy where you have the spectacular down the field to
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Speaker 1: your point, where it's been steady with some hiccups against
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Speaker 1: the Texans and against the Broncos with those bad throws
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Speaker 1: in the red zone. Um, that to me says it's real. Right,
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Speaker 1: it's over and over and over the last two games.
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Speaker 1: And you'll hear me say this again in hot takes. Um,
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Speaker 1: he's completed seventies of his passes. He's playing at a
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Speaker 1: much higher level. He's almost ready to start taking what
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Speaker 1: he wants. Right. There's those development stages. I think it
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Speaker 1: was Billapoleon. You might recall them better from your days
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis where he talked about. You know, the first
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Speaker 1: thing is the quarterbacks gotta figure out what's going on,
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Speaker 1: you know, and then he learns to take what what's given.
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Speaker 1: And then he starts to dictate, right um, and I
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Speaker 1: think he's he's in between those second and third and
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Speaker 1: we may see him dictate a little bit, but I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna save that for my hot take. And the biggest difference.
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Speaker 1: Doug called it the bonehead play. You're not seeing that
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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks where that it's that play
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Speaker 1: where everyone will go back to it and talk about
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Speaker 1: it for the whole week. From one play you take
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Speaker 1: away again, you can't do this, it's the NFL. But
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Speaker 1: you take away two or three plays in the red
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Speaker 1: zone and they are probably what's the recond three and seven,
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Speaker 1: they're probably six and four, five and five. And he's
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Speaker 1: had two or three game winning a much different narrative.
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Speaker 1: I get. You can't do that. The point is there
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Speaker 1: hasn't been that many with him, maybe two games where
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Speaker 1: you just went, oh, he was awful all day. Well,
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Speaker 1: you had a bunch of games where it was that
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Speaker 1: one play. Well, that's more fixable than if he couldn't
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Speaker 1: hit the broadside of a bar so you can see it.
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Speaker 1: That's I think he's fine, Yes he is. And when
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Speaker 1: we come back on Jaguars Drive Times some highlights from
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Speaker 1: the first half of the season to stay with us,
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Speaker 1: where shopping is a pleasure. We're back Jaguars Drive Time
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Speaker 1: Monday morning. Of course, coming off the bye week to
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Speaker 1: no game highlight from yesterday, but we do have game
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Speaker 1: highlight from the first half of this season. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: go to Week two against the Colts a win there.
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Speaker 1: And Christian Kirk, of course, this was a game where
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Speaker 1: he kind of stepped on the scene and we definitely
11:23
Speaker 1: want to see more from Christian Kirk. Florence out of
11:25
Speaker 1: the gun, drops back to past middle of the pail,
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk towards the one touchdown Jacksonville, two receivers left
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Speaker 1: and robertson of the backfield. They thanked the pitch learns
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Speaker 1: to rather Christie. He's got Christian Kirk touchdown Jaguars. This
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Speaker 1: was way back week to the first win for the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: and this is really the game where we finally saw, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what can Christian Kirk do. This is when he was
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Speaker 1: kind of stepping on the scene and we thought, if
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Speaker 1: they can have this every single week, they're gonna be okay.
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Speaker 1: He um he he feels like he as settled in. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, they were trying to force it to him
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Speaker 1: a couple of times, and we saw turnovers in Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: in particular because of that. But it's it appears like,
12:09
Speaker 1: you know, they talked about how they played golf when
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Speaker 1: he first got here and they developed the relationship and
12:13
Speaker 1: that felt just like talk until the last couple of
12:15
Speaker 1: weeks where it seems like they're on the same page.
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Speaker 1: And it's been a long time around here since we've
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Speaker 1: had a quarterback with the receiver and the receiver in
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Speaker 1: the quarterback know what the other one is doing. A
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Speaker 1: long time, maybe since Brunel and McCardell. Yeah, CHRISTI is
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Speaker 1: my hot take, so I'll back off a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But um, he has been I believe what they expected,
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Speaker 1: what they wanted. Um. And you can you're looking right
12:42
Speaker 1: now still for pieces that are gonna fit moving forward. Um. Again,
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Speaker 1: you talk about earlier in the show liking what Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence is doing because you can trust it to be
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Speaker 1: real as you move forward. I haven't seen Christian Kirk
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Speaker 1: do anything that I don't think he can keep doing
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Speaker 1: and that they can use his pieces no matter who's
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Speaker 1: in here. Next year, I could see him having the
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Speaker 1: same numbers he's got right now. New people are going
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Speaker 1: to take away from what he's doing, So I'll save
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Speaker 1: the rest of my thought for later. Brian's gotta thought.
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Speaker 1: We'll see his hand. Yeah, good proof of vision just
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Speaker 1: at that point. Um, the numbers might be what they are,
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Speaker 1: But a catch on a third down and thirteen right
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Speaker 1: doesn't show up in the stats is anything more than
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Speaker 1: a catch for thirteen yards. But you may see him
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Speaker 1: have more game changing plays where he keeps drives alive.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Week three, Los Angeles against
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Speaker 1: the Chargers. This was the big game where the turnover
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Speaker 1: ratio was the best it's been all season long. From
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Speaker 1: the perfect picked off five the check ward I'm brought
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Speaker 1: down at about the five yard line. Is Devin Lloyd,
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Speaker 1: the rookie out of Utah. You will will recall after
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Speaker 1: this game, we had that Monday meeting and we were
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Speaker 1: talking about, my gosh, this season is going to be electric.
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Speaker 1: If the Jaguars could play like this every single game.
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Speaker 1: We were talking playoffs, were talking wild card, and this
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Speaker 1: was kind of the game where after a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks he had almost come back down to reality. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think maybe Devin Lloyd is
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an example of that. Yeah, meaning
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Speaker 1: he clearly has a place and an ability in this
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Speaker 1: league and such a nose for the ball that you
14:25
Speaker 1: get excited about the talent and then you realize he's
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Speaker 1: also a rookie who still has to catch up and
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Speaker 1: figure out how to have that talent in the right
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Speaker 1: place every time. It feels like maybe that's a little
14:35
Speaker 1: bit of a microcosm of the team a little bit
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Speaker 1: right now. Uh, you like, the ability still has to
14:42
Speaker 1: figure out the little details of things to be great,
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Speaker 1: to be winning, to be effective. Well, we saw the
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Speaker 1: very next week, didn't we in Philadelphia where their offense
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Speaker 1: and their scheme is different anyway, and the mobile quarterback
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Speaker 1: in Jalen Hurts really cost him same thing in in
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Speaker 1: London against the mobile quarterback. Uh, he struggled in that
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Speaker 1: and and really if we're talking about slowing it down
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Speaker 1: like you did in the first block here, Uh, he's
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Speaker 1: one of those guys that it has to slow down for.
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Speaker 1: But I'll go back to draft day and Kyle Whittingham
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Speaker 1: is coach, was there. I interviewed him in LA in
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and he said, this is a guy who
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Speaker 1: was supremely prepared. He's lost right now, he'll figure it out,
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Speaker 1: but his abilitys got three interceptions in seven past the defense,
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Speaker 1: maybe eight and a couple of bumbles recovered. Um, he
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Speaker 1: is a playmaking linebacker. They just have to slow it
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Speaker 1: down and get him in a groove. It'll be very
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Speaker 1: interesting to see what they do coming this Sunday against
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Speaker 1: of course mobile quarterback from Lark Jackson. Is it mum
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Speaker 1: on the field more? Is Lloyd caught up? I'm very
15:37
Speaker 1: curious to see how they play that out this week.
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Speaker 1: You want a guy like Lloyd, this is a game
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Speaker 1: you won him for. He's got range, right, Yeah and yeah.
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Speaker 1: And the topic was was Chad MoMA going to get
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Speaker 1: more snaps than them Lloyd? Was he gonna get close
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Speaker 1: to it? I wonder if the bye week they were
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Speaker 1: able to catch Lloyd up where that's isn't a topic
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Speaker 1: any longer? Yes, exactly, All right, Final one, let's go
15:54
Speaker 1: to Week nine against the Raiders travesy Tan. You could
15:57
Speaker 1: argue the m v P of the season, so part
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Speaker 1: for the now. First in goal, I snap eat t
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Speaker 1: N up the middle and he is in. He a touchdown.
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Speaker 1: Stick that ball out and get your first down. Instead
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Speaker 1: they flick it to eat t N at the fun
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Speaker 1: comes to the hand, touchdown and then check Wars pull ahead.
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Speaker 1: You know. Uh. He's another guy that had some turnover issues, right,
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Speaker 1: A couple of red zone turnovers that were very costly
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Speaker 1: um one against the Texans that and against the Giants
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Speaker 1: as well. Those are plays that he'd like to have back.
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Speaker 1: And I noticed in this game and you see it,
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Speaker 1: especially on that thirteen yard run to set up that
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Speaker 1: touchdown in the third quarter, whereas he got into traffic.
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Speaker 1: You see him, you know, but he wouldn't used to
16:39
Speaker 1: get in caught in college. It's different in this league.
16:42
Speaker 1: And he's figured that one out. Yeah again, And you
16:45
Speaker 1: talk about guys to move forward with Christian Kirk, Trevor, Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: Travis e t n Uh. You feel like all of
16:53
Speaker 1: those guys and even put Kirk in this are are
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Speaker 1: ascending and you feel like they're getting better and are comfortable.
17:01
Speaker 1: You also, I'm gonna sure how to quantify this, but
17:03
Speaker 1: you also sort of feel even in those highlights the
17:08
Speaker 1: season so long you almost forget what they were doing
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Speaker 1: against Washington, what they were doing earlier in the season.
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Speaker 1: You feel like Doug Peterson is figuring out each week
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Speaker 1: more and more what each offensive weapon, how he's going
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Speaker 1: to use them, how he's going to deploy them with
17:26
Speaker 1: et is the best example, you know, early in the
17:28
Speaker 1: season sharing time with j Rob. Now all of a sudden,
17:32
Speaker 1: he's sort of the key to things. So you're starting
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Speaker 1: to see them get what they're going to be moving
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Speaker 1: forward as well well. Doug said in his news conference
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Speaker 1: last week our system, right, he's our system. That's for
17:43
Speaker 1: all the players, not just Trevor e t n Kirk,
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Speaker 1: all of these guys. You have to learn this system
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Speaker 1: and how they're going forward. This is never about two.
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Speaker 1: It was always about fure right, and that is highlights
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Speaker 1: from the first half of the season. When we come
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Speaker 1: back on courts drive times, some hot takes on a
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Speaker 1: which means it is time for a hot takes kind
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Speaker 1: of a big picture look with no game yesterday. But Brian,
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Speaker 1: what do you think of from um? I think that
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Speaker 1: the jag Boards offense and its ability to create some
18:36
Speaker 1: momentum in the last seven games is going to rely
18:38
Speaker 1: on these two guys, Say Jones and Evan Ingram. If
18:41
Speaker 1: you look at Kirk, you're looking at a guy who
18:44
Speaker 1: has what sixty five catches I'm sorry, fifty six catches
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Speaker 1: and seven touchdowns. These two guys have seven and thirty
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Speaker 1: six catches, but each only has a touchdown. Combined, they
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Speaker 1: have just about nine yards more than Kirk has by himself.
19:01
Speaker 1: Kirk has six. These guys combined to have seven something
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Speaker 1: like that, and as a result, these two guys have
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Speaker 1: got to get going. They both have the ability. How
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Speaker 1: many times, John, have you seen Christian Kirk No, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: Za Jones running open right and the quarterback isn't looking
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Speaker 1: for him, doesn't see him. Um. Same thing with Evan Ingram.
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Speaker 1: There are plays that are there for him, but early
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Speaker 1: on in the season, the quarterback wasn't looking at the
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Speaker 1: tight end. He was looking down the field to make
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Speaker 1: a big play and they've had to dial him back.
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Speaker 1: These two guys have the ability, physical ability, and their
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Speaker 1: understanding of the game to be able to make more plays.
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Speaker 1: If they do, then this offense will reach another degree
19:43
Speaker 1: because it feels like the quarterbacks try to start taking
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Speaker 1: what he wants, as I mentioned earlier, picking apart and
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Speaker 1: getting where he wants to go. But they can't just
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Speaker 1: do it with Kirk and et N. They need these
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Speaker 1: two guys to step up. Yeah, it was a spam call.
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Speaker 1: I agree. I think they will get marginally better. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that you're going to see them explode and
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Speaker 1: have huge numbers. But as Brian said, they don't need
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Speaker 1: to get huge, huge better. They need have instead of
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns and need to have combined for three or
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Speaker 1: four by the end of the season. And this team
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Speaker 1: is close enough for marginal differences like that can make
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Speaker 1: a big difference. A Jones especially, I go back to
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Speaker 1: training camp and he was the storyline. Christian Kirk was
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Speaker 1: the second storyline. But it's clear you have Trevor and
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Speaker 1: Kirk who have that connection. Trevor's always looking for him,
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Speaker 1: maybe too much at some point for z A. Jones
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Speaker 1: to come on the scene as well. I think that's
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Speaker 1: the biggest one that stands out well. And it's more
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Speaker 1: than just those two guys elevating their game. The quarterback
20:42
Speaker 1: has got to make a focus of going through the
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Speaker 1: progression and finding these confers and sometimes taking them instead
20:47
Speaker 1: of trying to force the ball into number thirteen. I
20:50
Speaker 1: get why you want thirteen to have it right, but
20:52
Speaker 1: forcing the ball is taking away play opportunities for those
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Speaker 1: two guys who have the ability to make them. So
20:57
Speaker 1: it's a concerted effort, but at the offense is going
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Speaker 1: to ump up and convert all these yards. I've got
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Speaker 1: so many yards but not enough points. Most two guys
21:05
Speaker 1: are gonna have to be a factor. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: both of those Um, it could benefit too if they're
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Speaker 1: both here next year. I'm not sure what Evan's future
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Speaker 1: is gonna hold because he's on a one year deal.
21:18
Speaker 1: I hope he's here because I think I think he
21:20
Speaker 1: likes it here. I think he can be very effective. UM.
21:24
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley in this offense makes Za Jones a true
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Speaker 1: to outside receiver and Kirk a true slot receiver, angring
21:34
Speaker 1: or two tight end um. I think that could be
21:39
Speaker 1: very interesting to see how they fit. I don't know
21:41
Speaker 1: that za Jones is a true outside one, so but
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Speaker 1: is is he a really good compliment to Ridley Kirk?
21:50
Speaker 1: Is that your formula going forward feels like it could
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Speaker 1: be so I think that could be interesting next year mine.
21:55
Speaker 1: As I said earlier, Ashley, you asked me, uh, it's
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk has answered the questions and the reason I
22:03
Speaker 1: phrase it like this, I get so tired of well
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Speaker 1: is he worth the money? He's not worth them? He's
22:09
Speaker 1: not worth eighteen million year? Well who is me? But
22:12
Speaker 1: beyond that? Beyond that, I'm glad you asked beyond me
22:17
Speaker 1: a very few free agents or worth eighteen million dollars
22:20
Speaker 1: a year? And I don't know how to answer what
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Speaker 1: worth means. I do know Christian Kirk, I believe, has
22:27
Speaker 1: been exactly what they envisioned he would be. If you
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Speaker 1: extrapolate his numbers out, he probably finishes with what eleven
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Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns? Uh yards. He has also given Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: something to rely on. I think it has helped the
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Speaker 1: offense overall. So he's answered all the questions. Could he
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Speaker 1: be what they wanted? Uh? To me? If he performs
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Speaker 1: like this, there should be no criticism of the move
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Speaker 1: or of Christian Kirk. They had to get better, and
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Speaker 1: they had to pay money to get better. They weren't
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Speaker 1: going to be able to get everything they wanted, but
23:09
Speaker 1: they knew they needed this guy and they were right
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Speaker 1: about what he would bring well, and they didn't want
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Speaker 1: to spend the draft capital and the cash to go
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Speaker 1: and get either Davante Adams or Mike Williams in Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles or Tyreek Hill who's putting up epic numbers in Miami. Um,
23:22
Speaker 1: this guy's making eighteen million, Tyreek Hills making thirty million, right,
23:25
Speaker 1: So yeah, he set the market for about a day. Yeah, yeah,
23:29
Speaker 1: at least. But this guy's numbers are the best and
23:35
Speaker 1: will finish the best since anyone but Alan Robinson. But
23:38
Speaker 1: we remember that year the Jaggers were behind and they
23:40
Speaker 1: were throwing to catch up, and he made up a
23:43
Speaker 1: lot of ground and most of those numbers were when
23:46
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were trailing mightily. Um, this guy, it doesn't
23:49
Speaker 1: feel that way at all. It feels like he's keeping
23:51
Speaker 1: them in games with plays that he's making. He's putting
23:54
Speaker 1: them in a position to win even if they haven't won.
23:56
Speaker 1: At the end. His numbers won't be as good as Alan's,
23:59
Speaker 1: but they'll be more meaningful than Allen's. I think if
24:01
Speaker 1: you went back and look game to get yeah, and
24:03
Speaker 1: especially for a year that was all about Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: and helping him. If it's a guy that you can
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Speaker 1: depend on for Lawrence and Kirk, then that's worth all
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Speaker 1: the money in the world alone. All Right. My hot
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Speaker 1: take is I gotta hear this one because I have
24:14
Speaker 1: seen it and I want to know. I want to
24:17
Speaker 1: know where you get it. See. This is why it's
24:19
Speaker 1: a hot take, because it builds conversation. The Jaguars will
24:23
Speaker 1: finish the season with seven wins, Now, I think that's
24:27
Speaker 1: safer bet. What most people are saying is the Jaguars
24:29
Speaker 1: could squeak out three more. Here, I think they finished
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Speaker 1: with six wins. No, this is a hot take for
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Speaker 1: a reason. I think they finished with seven wins. I
24:36
Speaker 1: think they beat the Lions, the Jets, the Texans, and
24:40
Speaker 1: the tight tens. Wants to finish with seven wins? Well,
24:44
Speaker 1: anythink about that? Well, So it's interesting because I'm when
24:47
Speaker 1: I'm looking at where the Jaguars finished this season, I'm
24:49
Speaker 1: looking at the Jets and the Lions, Lions have won
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Speaker 1: three in a row. They have four wins on the season,
24:54
Speaker 1: and the Jets have six wins and they've lost too
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Speaker 1: in a row. I think, um, so those are good ones.
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Speaker 1: If they beat those two, that would be really important
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Speaker 1: for this franchise. Yeah, I think it would really be big.
25:06
Speaker 1: We'll talk about more as you get as we get closer.
25:09
Speaker 1: If they could beat the Texans and the Titans wants
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Speaker 1: and the Titans wants, that gets you three and three
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Speaker 1: in the division. It gets you a win over the
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Speaker 1: team that all the fans want, and that's that's that
25:23
Speaker 1: Titans game. Um. I think what's what's interesting. I always
25:28
Speaker 1: hesitate to break down the schedule. Okay, they're gonna beat
25:30
Speaker 1: this team, beat this team. Wow, you got me excited
25:36
Speaker 1: the reflex, let's go. Um. But I think what fans
25:42
Speaker 1: miss is they've been in every game really except one
25:46
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They were stored in. But you know, so
25:49
Speaker 1: you couldn't take advantage of opportunities to stay. I don't
25:52
Speaker 1: see a scenario in these last seven games. I think
25:54
Speaker 1: I think they'll be in six up. So can you
25:58
Speaker 1: close it? Can you do the things that you haven't
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Speaker 1: done in the first half The season. So I don't
26:03
Speaker 1: think Shelenn's four wins is that ridiculous to take so
26:07
Speaker 1: well made it seem like it was ridiculous at the beginning.
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Speaker 1: Would you feel better if I said six ones? Would
26:12
Speaker 1: be like, all right, that that can happen. Six Yeah,
26:15
Speaker 1: and it's not six the rest of the second say
26:18
Speaker 1: go big or go home? Yeah, I feel yeah, I
26:24
Speaker 1: think they'll get to six. I don't know if they'll
26:26
Speaker 1: get to seven. That's the one game difference. Again. They
26:30
Speaker 1: had a stretch of schedule with the Texans, Colts, UH,
26:36
Speaker 1: Broncos and Raiders where they could have compiled some wins
26:39
Speaker 1: and they couldn't do it. That was their chance to
26:41
Speaker 1: put up a big number in terms of the wind
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Speaker 1: column this year. But I think seven is achievable. Yeah,
26:47
Speaker 1: all right, and that is Hot Takes on a Monday
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Speaker 1: morning when we come back on Jaguars Drive Times. Some
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Speaker 1: more segment Monday Morning, Jaguars Drive Time, Big week Ahead,
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Speaker 1: getting ready for a home game on Sunday against the
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, who are coming in here hot. That mobile
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Speaker 1: quarterback Lamar Jackson is going to be quite the challenge
27:24
Speaker 1: coming here on Sunday. But we have a big week
27:25
Speaker 1: getting ready for It's what do you guys got this week?
27:28
Speaker 1: I'm gonna chase down Cody Graham as I mentioned for radio,
27:30
Speaker 1: but in particular to talk about the safeties because I
27:33
Speaker 1: think we've all seen ray Shon Jenkins has had a
27:36
Speaker 1: big impact in the box this year. Um, but er
27:39
Speaker 1: Cisco has played at a very high level. The last
27:43
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, he's played very very well. He was,
27:46
Speaker 1: you know, persona on grata at Arrowhead Stadium, but when
27:48
Speaker 1: you go back and watch, um, that wasn't a dirty hit.
27:51
Speaker 1: As I said last week, he's really starting to take
27:53
Speaker 1: a step up. Um, He's one of those guys that
27:55
Speaker 1: you really need to be able to count on going forward.
27:57
Speaker 1: So I want to talk to him about his safeties.
27:59
Speaker 1: Love it believe Andre Cisco is our targeted guest on
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Speaker 1: the Safety Podcast, So I'm looking forward that I had
28:08
Speaker 1: him on the podcast once, uh, I believe late last season,
28:12
Speaker 1: but it was sort of when he was still getting
28:14
Speaker 1: his feet wet, and I like talking to him. He's
28:17
Speaker 1: a he's a sharp kid. I think you'll have more
28:21
Speaker 1: to say, not being a rookie anymore. So I'm looking
28:23
Speaker 1: forward to it, and I think fans will enjoy Here's
28:24
Speaker 1: a good one. I don't know whether you know this show,
28:26
Speaker 1: but his mom sent him down from New Yorker he
28:27
Speaker 1: was a high school football player to play IMG in Tampa.
28:30
Speaker 1: She thought he had the ability to be a college player,
28:33
Speaker 1: and she sent him somewhere she thought he could get
28:36
Speaker 1: the most out of it. So I like that story.
28:39
Speaker 1: He's a good kid. He absolutely is. And a little
28:41
Speaker 1: bit of a weird week with Thanksgiving on Thursday. We
28:43
Speaker 1: will have Jaguars Drive Time on Wednesday morning, not Thursday morning,
28:46
Speaker 1: but stay with us on Jaguars dot Com all week
28:49
Speaker 1: long as we get ready for this Sunday's game against
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Speaker 1: the Ravens. We will see you Wednesday morning.