Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Steve McCracken: Secondary Principals Council Chair on teacher shortages
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We've got new data route this morning showing that teacher
- 0:02Speaker 1: shortages are getting worse as kids prepare to go back
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the classroom. Four hundred and forty five roles are
- 0:08Speaker 1: currently vacant nationwide. That is up twelve percent on last year.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Three quarters of those gaps are in the North Island
- 0:15Speaker 1: and one hundred and twenty five of them are in
- 0:17Speaker 1: Auckland alone. So Secondary Principals Council Chair is Steve mccrekan
- 0:21Speaker 1: and Steve joins me. Now, good morning to you.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Sir, Good morning Andrew.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Why is it still bad?
- 0:26Speaker 2: Well, it's a very good question. Actually, I think teaching
- 0:30Speaker 2: is a wonderful profession obviously, However, I don't think that's
- 0:34Speaker 2: probably perceived by the public. And there's a whole range
- 0:37Speaker 2: of things going on and the teaching and education sector,
- 0:40Speaker 2: but there's possibly not that enticing at this point in time.
- 0:45Speaker 2: But yeah, with these vacancies, we make sure that things
- 0:48Speaker 2: happen and that kids get the best possible education we can.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Yeah, we have an aging and growing population. We are
- 0:55Speaker 1: losing teachers to retirement. We need a new generation coming.
- 1:01Speaker 2: I think there's definite work in the pipeline, and there's
- 1:04Speaker 2: tournaments to be very active in the initial teacher education
- 1:08Speaker 2: sector and it's probably still just a couple of years.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Away though we drew all right, why is the North
- 1:13Speaker 1: Island so hard hit?
- 1:16Speaker 2: Well, there's probably a couple of things there, I think.
- 1:18Speaker 2: I think it's obviously population there, but also it's an
- 1:22Speaker 2: interesting demographic and particularly in the Auckland sector where there's
- 1:27Speaker 2: some really challenging situations in schools and in education right now.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Like what, Well, it's a range of things. And if
- 1:34Speaker 2: you look at socioeconomic areas and yeah, colleagues in the
- 1:38Speaker 2: South Auckland, Yeah, they have different challenges to those in
- 1:42Speaker 2: other areas of Auckland and other areas of the country.
- 1:44Speaker 1: So teachers don't want to go to South Auckland.
- 1:47Speaker 2: No, that's not the case at all. There's some amazing
- 1:49Speaker 2: teachers in all parts of our country. But I think
- 1:52Speaker 2: that there's different challenges in each sector as well.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Are there particular subjects that are worst hit?
- 1:58Speaker 2: Yeah? By the looks at the it looks like maths
- 2:01Speaker 2: and physics continue to remain a challenging area. But I
- 2:05Speaker 2: think that that's betting a spread across nearly every subject
- 2:08Speaker 2: that we've experienced. How is school was going to cope
- 2:11Speaker 2: this year then, Look, schools are remarketable places. Is everyone
- 2:15Speaker 2: on the radio understands and knows, and teachers and school
- 2:19Speaker 2: leaders across the country make things work and putting extra
- 2:23Speaker 2: resource where possible and pulling manage responsibilities away just to
- 2:28Speaker 2: enable teachers to be in front of learners as the
- 2:31Speaker 2: best possible outcome, and school leaders and that will be
- 2:33Speaker 2: working right now to make sure that things happen for
- 2:35Speaker 2: their kids when there live at school come day one.
- 2:37Speaker 1: If they make it work, should we be worried still?
- 2:40Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, because that means that there are other things
- 2:44Speaker 2: that aren't happening. And this year, I'm sure that you're
- 2:47Speaker 2: aware that there's large curriculum reform and things that needs
- 2:50Speaker 2: to happen, and make sure that to make sure that
- 2:53Speaker 2: that happens, we need to have the best possible people
- 2:55Speaker 2: in front of our kids in front of our school.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Is changing the curriculum and changing in CEA making this worse.
- 3:02Speaker 2: I think it's having an impact, and ye there's an
- 3:05Speaker 2: additional teacher workload and pressure on there. In the long run,
- 3:09Speaker 2: it's probably going to be a better outcome for our
- 3:11Speaker 2: young people. However, there's a put a short term pain
- 3:14Speaker 2: we need to get through in the interim.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Steve, thanks for waking up early for me. Steve mccrackett
- 3:18Speaker 1: Secondary Principles Council Chaired For more from Early Edition with
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