Latest / Ron Verb / Thursday 6pm hour 06/25/26
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- 0:01Speaker 1: And so good to be with you 605 news radio
- 0:04Speaker 1: 570 wkbn 76 degrees some rain in our area and
- 0:08Speaker 1: money talks with uh the one who can talk about
- 0:11Speaker 1: it's john arnold on the end of the line john
- 0:13Speaker 1: welcome back to another thursday edition of the broadcast nice
- 0:16Speaker 1: to have you with us again yeah.
- 0:18Speaker 2: It's great to be on with you thank you very much.
- 0:20Speaker 1: And let's uh let's talk a little bit we're going
- 0:22Speaker 1: to get into john's hedge fund which uh is uh
- 0:27Speaker 1: Really a unique opportunity. We'll get into all of that
- 0:29Speaker 1: coming up momentarily. Don't you have your little bit of
- 0:33Speaker 1: a disclaimer you want to say in the beginning here?
- 0:36Speaker 3: I always forget about that.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually, we got to get that done with
- 0:40Speaker 2: Keith or something to get it right in the beginning.
- 0:43Speaker 2: But yeah, the Money Talks program is for informational and
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- 0:52Speaker 2: risk of principal. And Ron Verve is a paid spokesperson
- 0:57Speaker 2: for My Heart Radio.
- 0:58Speaker 3: There you go.
- 0:59Speaker 2: And consult your own tax advisor or investment professional before
- 1:03Speaker 2: making any investment decisions.
- 1:05Speaker 3: There you go. Well stated. All right.
- 1:08Speaker 1: So here we go, and here we are. Let's start
- 1:11Speaker 1: where I always like to start. We're going to get
- 1:12Speaker 1: to the hedge fund coming up, folks. But let's start
- 1:14Speaker 1: with where the market is today and what's going on
- 1:18Speaker 1: since we talked last week as far as the market,
- 1:21Speaker 1: the economy, your thoughts about that situation.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Well, the market, let me put it this way, the
- 1:29Speaker 2: market's a nightmare for anybody, especially a hedge fund trader
- 1:32Speaker 2: like me. It's a nightmare right now. Let me tell you,
- 1:35Speaker 2: look at the NASDAQ. We got a chart on the
- 1:36Speaker 2: NASDAQ today. There was no shorting. It wasn't going long.
- 1:40Speaker 2: It did a 200 to 300-point move four times within
- 1:43Speaker 2: the day-to-day. So if you open up your chart right
- 1:46Speaker 2: now on NASDAQ, you'll see it go from like 25.5
- 1:49Speaker 2: all the way down to 25.2, up to 25.5, down
- 1:52Speaker 2: to 25.2. Now, listen, I'm rounding numbers up and down.
- 1:56Speaker 2: But just to give a listener kind of like the
- 1:59Speaker 2: pain of a pitcher in their head, if you can
- 2:01Speaker 2: imagine something going up 200 or 300 points four times
- 2:04Speaker 2: on a trading day, it is madness. You know, Apple
- 2:09Speaker 2: came out today, which is when Ricky Holdings said, you know,
- 2:12Speaker 2: we're going to increase the prices. of our retail phones,
- 2:16Speaker 2: and the market did not like that. Micron came out
- 2:19Speaker 2: with ridiculous earnings, and that's one of our holdings as well.
- 2:23Speaker 2: That went up like 200 points in overnight trading and
- 2:27Speaker 2: held the line. So the semiconductor market is hitting record numbers.
- 2:35Speaker 2: And one of the drawbacks to that is there's a
- 2:37Speaker 2: tug of war going on. If they're doing good, then
- 2:39Speaker 2: that means other sectors are doing bad. Because semiconductors and
- 2:43Speaker 2: AI are slowly replacing jobs. So the market is not
- 2:46Speaker 2: fully in love with the AI and the semiconductor performance
- 2:50Speaker 2: because the better it gets, some people look at it
- 2:53Speaker 2: as the worst for the long-term in humanity.
- 2:57Speaker 3: There's a couple of things that you said there that...
- 3:00Speaker 3: I want to follow up on.
- 3:01Speaker 1: First of all, am I the only guy that thinks
- 3:02Speaker 1: an iPhone is fairly expensive now? And they decide they're
- 3:06Speaker 1: going to raise the price? I mean, everybody loves their
- 3:09Speaker 1: phone and everybody loves Apple. I don't know that you
- 3:14Speaker 1: can price them so high that people still don't want
- 3:16Speaker 1: an Apple iPhone or need to replace their phone at
- 3:19Speaker 1: some point.
- 3:20Speaker 3: But you can delay it longer.
- 3:23Speaker 1: I mean, is there a price breaking point on this
- 3:26Speaker 1: kind of stuff for the average consumer?
- 3:28Speaker 2: You want to know the truth? Yes. I don't think so,
- 3:31Speaker 2: and here's the reason why. We live, Jennifer and I live,
- 3:34Speaker 2: as everybody knows, Jupiter, and right down the road in
- 3:37Speaker 2: Palm Beach Gardens, one of the nicest malls in the
- 3:39Speaker 2: entire world. And in there is one of the most
- 3:42Speaker 2: successful Apple stores in the entire world. There is a
- 3:47Speaker 2: day waiting list to get an appointment. And then once
- 3:52Speaker 2: you get the appointment, there's another couple of days to
- 3:54Speaker 2: get into the appointment itself. When I actually get to
- 3:57Speaker 2: go in there, madhouse. We bought this thing called an
- 4:01Speaker 2: Apple Vision. It's like a... I don't know. It's a...
- 4:06Speaker 2: I don't know. It's the real... Basically, you put goggles
- 4:09Speaker 2: on and it looks like you're 3D or 4D. It
- 4:12Speaker 2: looks like you're actually in a concert. If you put
- 4:14Speaker 2: a Metallica... and are seeing me, and it looks like
- 4:18Speaker 2: you're literally right beside the singer. It's unreal. You can
- 4:21Speaker 2: put the things on and easily, and I've done it,
- 4:24Speaker 2: easily get two or three hours into it, and you
- 4:28Speaker 2: don't even realize any time has gone by. You really
- 4:30Speaker 2: think you're at the actual event, standing watching a movie.
- 4:34Speaker 2: And those sell between $ 4, 500 and $ 5, 000. The iPhones, the iPads,
- 4:39Speaker 2: as you've seen, they're already expensive. But when I tell
- 4:42Speaker 2: you they have a line out the door, I mean
- 4:45Speaker 2: literally a line out the door. So I don't know, Ron,
- 4:48Speaker 2: if there is a breaking price point. I think that, honestly,
- 4:52Speaker 2: I think that those bozos could charge $ 2, 000 on an
- 4:54Speaker 2: iPhone and get it. That's what I think. But they
- 4:57Speaker 2: blame the retail price increase on the semiconductor market being
- 5:03Speaker 2: supply and demand being the demand is outweighing the supply.
- 5:08Speaker 2: You know, Apple's got more money than a lot of countries.
- 5:11Speaker 2: So when I hear about, like, Apple raising the prices
- 5:15Speaker 2: to do this or that, I think it's ridiculous.
- 5:17Speaker 4: You're right.
- 5:17Speaker 2: One of the most profitable companies ever to exist.
- 5:21Speaker 1: And I would agree with you to what you said because...
- 5:24Speaker 1: There is a love people have for their iPhone.
- 5:28Speaker 3: And I do mean a love.
- 5:29Speaker 1: And if they say, OK, I'll keep it another year
- 5:32Speaker 1: or whatever. But when it's time to replace it, they
- 5:34Speaker 1: will definitely save or do whatever they have to do
- 5:37Speaker 1: to be able to get the next model. If they
- 5:41Speaker 1: price it five hundred dollars more than the last one.
- 5:43Speaker 3: It's one of those strange products that it.
- 5:46Speaker 1: I think you're right. The price point... I mean, you
- 5:48Speaker 1: could make it $ 10, 000. That's a different story. But modestly
- 5:53Speaker 1: large increases are not going to stop somebody from saying, well,
- 5:57Speaker 1: I'm going to get this iPhone and I'll keep it
- 5:59Speaker 1: for five years or ten years or whatever the case is.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Apple does something extremely ruthless that they've admitted to doing
- 6:06Speaker 2: and got fined on their ass for doing so. Do
- 6:10Speaker 2: you know what they do?
- 6:11Speaker 3: No.
- 6:12Speaker 2: They purposely... bog down your operating system on an older
- 6:17Speaker 2: phone to where it has glitches and bugs and they
- 6:20Speaker 2: don't fix them. And it forces you to buy a
- 6:23Speaker 2: new iPhone. I had an iPhone 15. I just traded
- 6:26Speaker 2: it in for, not traded in, but I bought a
- 6:28Speaker 2: new i17. I just did this three days ago. And
- 6:32Speaker 2: there's really not much difference. And there's like a couple
- 6:34Speaker 2: of different widgets and gadgets that are better, I guess.
- 6:37Speaker 2: But me, I got to tell you, and I know
- 6:38Speaker 2: because we're in the same kind of age bracket and
- 6:40Speaker 2: I don't want the damn thing to cook me breakfast
- 6:42Speaker 2: and chow my soup. You know what I want? I
- 6:44Speaker 2: want to answer my phone. I want the battery to
- 6:47Speaker 2: last more than four to five hours because I get
- 6:49Speaker 2: phone calls all day. And I want to check my
- 6:52Speaker 2: text messages. And, you know, that's all I want it
- 6:53Speaker 2: to do. The damn thing to cook me flapjacks now.
- 6:57Speaker 2: And it makes it too complicated. But, yeah, that's... New
- 7:02Speaker 2: generation loves that, right? They love the bells and whistles
- 7:05Speaker 2: and gadgets. And here's the other thing that people don't know, well,
- 7:09Speaker 2: some people do and most people don't, is they purposely
- 7:17Speaker 2: change it up to where it's... It's just a couple
- 7:21Speaker 2: extra gadgets here and there, but it's basically the same
- 7:24Speaker 2: exact phone. So that's why when they buy your phone
- 7:27Speaker 2: back or whatever, you get a pretty nice trade-in value
- 7:31Speaker 2: because they're just releasing a couple chips here and there
- 7:35Speaker 2: and mechanisms, and they're reselling you back a phone that's
- 7:38Speaker 2: either refurbished or new for a bigger price. That's just
- 7:42Speaker 2: the way it is, and that's that. I just wish
- 7:46Speaker 2: that they would just come out with a phone that works.
- 7:48Speaker 2: The battery stayed on for more than eight hours, and
- 7:51Speaker 2: it did my job. It got you under a trap.
- 7:54Speaker 3: It sounds to me like you need a flip phone again, John.
- 7:57Speaker 3: No offense.
- 7:58Speaker 2: No, listen. I'm getting email mode. I still read the
- 8:01Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal paper instead of digitally. I am like that.
- 8:05Speaker 2: It's my fault. I'll tell you one more thing about Apple.
- 8:09Speaker 2: They have algorithms. that they know human psychology to a
- 8:15Speaker 2: cent of what they're willing to spend on an upgrade.
- 8:18Speaker 2: So this iPhone price increase wasn't overnight. It came through
- 8:23Speaker 2: an actual algorithm that said, this is how much we
- 8:27Speaker 2: can charge additional to the existing iPhone without breaking our
- 8:31Speaker 2: price point with economies of scale, which means that they
- 8:35Speaker 2: know from robotics slash AI what the average American is
- 8:39Speaker 2: willing to spend on a new iPhone.
- 8:41Speaker 1: And as I look at the headlines as I talk
- 8:44Speaker 1: to you tonight, John Arnold's here, Money Talks, News Radio 570, WKBN.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Apple posts worst day in over a year after MacBook
- 8:51Speaker 1: and iPad price hikes. But you're saying, listen, they researched this.
- 8:56Speaker 1: They can raise the price. People are going to buy
- 8:59Speaker 1: it anyway. They're going to get it. But yet the
- 9:02Speaker 1: market says we're going to discount the stock or we're
- 9:06Speaker 1: going to lower the stock a little bit as a
- 9:08Speaker 1: result of this. Yeah.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Was it fair of them to do that, or do.
- 9:12Speaker 1: You think there's always that bounce back as time goes on?
- 9:16Speaker 2: Yeah, the dead cat bounce. I mean, just look at
- 9:20Speaker 2: a 20-year chart on Apple. They got it figured out.
- 9:23Speaker 2: Of course, there's an initial reaction to that. But I'd
- 9:27Speaker 2: be willing to bet all the tea in China that
- 9:30Speaker 2: in three months from now, you're going to see Apple
- 9:32Speaker 2: back where it was before or higher. Again, I have
- 9:35Speaker 2: to disclose that that's a guess.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Right.
- 9:37Speaker 2: But that's my opinion. I think my opinion is today
- 9:41Speaker 2: is really an anomaly and probably a value buy for
- 9:44Speaker 2: a lot of folks and saying, man, was it $ 300
- 9:47Speaker 2: if I can get Apple at $ 275? Let me jump
- 9:49Speaker 2: on that bandwagon. So I just think that it's an
- 9:53Speaker 2: initial reaction and could be a big money running it
- 9:56Speaker 2: down to get it low.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Now, talk a little bit about you were talking about Micron.
- 10:00Speaker 1: that it went up 15%. And Micron, for people that
- 10:05Speaker 1: are listening, they're what, a chip maker? What is Micron?
- 10:08Speaker 1: What do they make?
- 10:09Speaker 2: Infrastructure chip makers. So they build the infrastructure for the
- 10:12Speaker 2: chip makers. And the demand is out of this world.
- 10:16Speaker 2: It's crazy. So I bought that stock yesterday. In my
- 10:20Speaker 2: own portfolio, it's 338 key minuses before the hedge fund
- 10:24Speaker 2: opened up. And it went to the mid-900s for me,
- 10:28Speaker 2: and I sold. And I've been trading it ever since
- 10:31Speaker 2: off 1,100 to 1,000 and letting it bounce back. And today,
- 10:35Speaker 2: it opened up too high. I couldn't get in on that.
- 10:40Speaker 2: But it's a stock that's gone up from, call it 400,
- 10:44Speaker 2: to 1,200 from March to June. So think about that.
- 10:48Speaker 1: I mean, there's that much demand going on in this
- 10:51Speaker 1: AI sector, correct, in all the building that's going on?
- 10:55Speaker 2: Yes, there is. Yes, there is. You look at an
- 10:58Speaker 2: ETF like SOSX, which is an ETF that holds all
- 11:01Speaker 2: the semiconductor stuff, not all of the majority of them,
- 11:04Speaker 2: and that's a telltale sign. Look at it. It's basically
- 11:09Speaker 2: a slant up. Now, listen, I think you're getting to
- 11:13Speaker 2: an overbought scenario. I think that you're going to see
- 11:16Speaker 2: a pullback on the semiconductor just on big money driving
- 11:19Speaker 2: it down the value buy. But right now, that son
- 11:22Speaker 2: of a gun for the past half year is climbing
- 11:25Speaker 2: like a roller coaster going uphill like the old jackrabbit.
- 11:28Speaker 2: So it's just the way of the new world. And, hey,
- 11:33Speaker 2: if you're lucky enough to get in that and know
- 11:35Speaker 2: how to trade it like we do, I think there's
- 11:38Speaker 2: potentially a lot of money to be made.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Tahoe John Earl, Money Talks, NewsRadio 570. So give me
- 11:44Speaker 1: some input on the economy in general. I mean, who
- 11:47Speaker 1: knows where this whole situation is as far as the
- 11:51Speaker 1: Iran situation goes. You always have news on stuff like
- 11:54Speaker 1: that today as well. But, I mean, do you have–
- 11:58Speaker 1: what's your gut feeling about where our economy is going
- 12:02Speaker 1: and heading and oil prices?
- 12:06Speaker 3: Give me your insight.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Well, I think Trump is right in the face of
- 12:11Speaker 2: these oil companies. They use an excuse, the Iran war
- 12:17Speaker 2: started at the end of March, beginning of April. And
- 12:20Speaker 2: sure enough, two weeks later, oil, based on futures and
- 12:23Speaker 2: based on just, I don't know what the reason is,
- 12:26Speaker 2: went to $ 4 and above, right? So now oil's back
- 12:30Speaker 2: down to the 75, 77 area. And it was just
- 12:33Speaker 2: two months ago or a month ago, above $ 1. 10. There's
- 12:39Speaker 2: no decrease in the gas prices. And so everybody's kind
- 12:44Speaker 2: of wondering, including Trump, how do you justify that, Mr.
- 12:47Speaker 2: and Mrs.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Oil?
- 12:48Speaker 2: So I think it's a bunch of BS, you know that?
- 12:52Speaker 2: I was just talking about this today on my podcast
- 12:56Speaker 2: with Mike Case today. I think the economy's in trouble.
- 12:59Speaker 2: I do. I think that when you see the wealthy
- 13:04Speaker 2: start to pull back their spending... I think that's a
- 13:08Speaker 2: telltale sign. You have economists flashing big red lights about inflation.
- 13:13Speaker 2: This thing's getting hard. It's getting hard on even upper-class,
- 13:18Speaker 2: middle-class families. And that's that. So you're going to have
- 13:23Speaker 2: people taking less vacations or a shorter vacation. Here's what
- 13:27Speaker 2: some of the upper-class wealthy people are doing. They're getting, actually,
- 13:31Speaker 2: they're drinking at their home or at a dive bar.
- 13:34Speaker 2: And then they're going to a nice restaurant. They're not
- 13:37Speaker 2: ordering the appetizer. They're ordering something average and getting a
- 13:41Speaker 2: night out. And they used to order drinks at the restaurant.
- 13:44Speaker 2: They used to order an appetizer, a nice steak on
- 13:47Speaker 2: the menu, and then they would get a dessert and
- 13:50Speaker 2: go home. That's not happening anymore. When the wealthy start
- 13:52Speaker 2: to do that, now you're starting to see the cracks
- 13:55Speaker 2: in the ice. And that's what... That's what scares me.
- 13:58Speaker 2: And I hope that they get a hold of this
- 14:00Speaker 2: inflation because when people tell me like, oh, you know,
- 14:03Speaker 2: things are charging high and everybody's good. And by the way,
- 14:07Speaker 2: the person in the pudding, go out to eat and
- 14:10Speaker 2: go out to something that requires a lot of money
- 14:15Speaker 2: to spend. They're still filling the seats. So I'm going
- 14:19Speaker 2: to tell you something that's scary to tell you. And
- 14:22Speaker 2: it's an opinion. I think we're headed for a depression.
- 14:25Speaker 2: I do. Between AEI Private equity destroying our economy and inflation.
- 14:30Speaker 2: We have a perfect storm brewing right now. Another thing
- 14:34Speaker 2: that Trump is doing, I think, great that no one's
- 14:36Speaker 2: really given credit for is he is talking about single-family
- 14:41Speaker 2: homes being too costly for the average person out of
- 14:45Speaker 2: college or trade school. In some states, the average starter
- 14:48Speaker 2: home is $ 1 million. That means you would have to
- 14:50Speaker 2: come up with $ 200, 000 of down payment money just to
- 14:53Speaker 2: get an average home. And for me, that's crazy. So
- 14:58Speaker 2: there's some stuff that maybe I don't know what the
- 15:00Speaker 2: hell is going on anymore, and there's a new kind
- 15:03Speaker 2: of economy. Everything I'm reading says there's some pain coming,
- 15:07Speaker 2: some major pain coming.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Boy, my ears are burning. They have really perked up
- 15:13Speaker 1: just on that last statement that you're making. I mean,
- 15:18Speaker 1: so you're looking economically, and you are deeply, deeply concerned
- 15:24Speaker 1: about with where we're going, because I understand the recessions,
- 15:30Speaker 1: but when you start using the depression word, that becomes
- 15:33Speaker 1: just downright frightening.
- 15:37Speaker 2: It just seems like history repeats itself. If you look
- 15:39Speaker 2: at the 20s, right, the roaring 20s, you see how
- 15:42Speaker 2: great things were going. I mean, it made no sense,
- 15:47Speaker 2: some of the stuff, the prices and how great. Everybody
- 15:49Speaker 2: was so happy in the 20s, right? And then 1929
- 15:53Speaker 2: came across and just crashed everything. And then thankfully and unthankfully,
- 15:57Speaker 2: World War II kind of pulled us out of it.
- 16:01Speaker 2: But we have a lot of the same things going
- 16:04Speaker 2: on right now to where things are just too good
- 16:07Speaker 2: to be true. There's going to be a hole in
- 16:10Speaker 2: the bucket. So eventually the water runs out of the
- 16:13Speaker 2: bucket and there's nowhere else to go. Now, something has
- 16:16Speaker 2: happened because we learned some lessons from the Great Depression
- 16:19Speaker 2: and depression and recessions. By the way, I think they
- 16:23Speaker 2: didn't say it, but let's face it, 2008 was a depression.
- 16:26Speaker 2: It wasn't a recession. So when they say that things
- 16:31Speaker 2: are going good and everybody's humming along, just ask XYZ,
- 16:37Speaker 2: normal person in... Say Columbus, you and your wife are
- 16:42Speaker 2: making together $ 120, 000 a year. Are you living a fabulous lifestyle?
- 16:46Speaker 2: And that answer is no, we're living. We're surviving. We're
- 16:50Speaker 2: living a decent life. But when somebody has to make
- 16:52Speaker 2: $ 120, 000 a year in the state of Ohio, they had
- 16:55Speaker 2: a good life. It wasn't just living. You look at
- 16:58Speaker 2: what this ASSHOLE in New York is doing. That's a
- 17:05Speaker 2: big telltale sign about what I'm talking about. You know,
- 17:07Speaker 2: they had, obviously, a socialist mayor. Now, I think they
- 17:11Speaker 2: just elected a primary socialist senator coming on board.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Several socialists won, and the Democrats socialists won in New
- 17:20Speaker 1: York in the primary.
- 17:21Speaker 3: You are correct.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Think about the message here. Think about the message. New
- 17:28Speaker 2: Yorkers know, people know, they know that it's wrong. But
- 17:31Speaker 2: what's happened is you got people making $ 200, 000 a year,
- 17:36Speaker 2: families in New York, they're not making it. Right. Once
- 17:39Speaker 2: you think about how much $ 200, 000 a year is, all right,
- 17:44Speaker 2: they're not making it, or if they're making it, they're
- 17:46Speaker 2: barely making it, right? You know what's happened is they
- 17:49Speaker 2: forced people to say, you know what? What's the use?
- 17:54Speaker 2: Let's vote for something else. It's not like it can hurt.
- 17:58Speaker 2: And so that's what scares me. If you can get
- 18:01Speaker 2: a socialist agenda passed in a city that was built
- 18:06Speaker 2: on capitalism, you think about, it was built on people
- 18:09Speaker 2: coming in from Europe with a loaf of bread and
- 18:11Speaker 2: a nickel in their pocket with hope, right? Saying, I
- 18:15Speaker 2: can do it. I can go from being an immigrant
- 18:18Speaker 2: that can hardly speak English with a nickel in my
- 18:19Speaker 2: pocket to build a million dollar business. That was what
- 18:22Speaker 2: made America great. So now we're reversing course and saying,
- 18:27Speaker 2: you know what? Give me socialism because I have no
- 18:29Speaker 2: way out. And here's my scare. The media and the
- 18:33Speaker 2: marketing of that does a great job. Maybe that message
- 18:36Speaker 2: resounds in Charlotte, Atlanta, Georgia, some of these more liberal cities.
- 18:43Speaker 2: And now you got three cities. I'm just guessing. I'm
- 18:45Speaker 2: making something up here. Now you got three cities saying,
- 18:48Speaker 2: you know what? Maybe the social singing ain't bad and
- 18:52Speaker 2: isn't bad. And then it catches wildfire. And then maybe
- 18:55Speaker 2: now Los Angeles is socialist, and now maybe Seattle catches fire.
- 19:01Speaker 2: That's what scares me. And if when you put people
- 19:04Speaker 2: in a corner saying we have no way out, and
- 19:06Speaker 2: they're voting for socialism, there's a message there that no
- 19:09Speaker 2: one's paying attention to.
- 19:28Speaker 5: A urgent weather message. The National Weather Service in Cleveland
- 19:32Speaker 5: has issued a severe thunderstorm warning for southwestern Trumbull County
- 19:36Speaker 5: in northeastern Ohio, northeastern Portage County in northeastern Ohio, southeastern
- 19:42Speaker 5: Geauga County in northeastern Ohio, until 7.15 p.m. EDT.
- 19:45Speaker 2: At 6.23 p.m. EDT.
- 19:50Speaker 5: A severe thunderstorm was located near Manoway or 13 miles
- 19:54Speaker 5: north of Ravenna, moving east at 30 mph. Hazard, quarter-size hail. Source,
- 20:01Speaker 5: radar indicated. Impact, minor damage to vehicles is possible. Locations
- 20:07Speaker 5: impacted include Warren, Lordstown, Garrettsville, West Farmington, Bristolville, Levittsburg, Parkman, Hiram,
- 20:15Speaker 5: and Champion Heights. For your protection, move to an interior
- 20:19Speaker 5: room on the lowest floor of a building. Repeating, a
- 20:23Speaker 5: severe thunderstorm warning has been issued until 7.15 p.m. EDT
- 20:27Speaker 5: for the following counties in Ohio, Geauga, Portage, and Trumbull.
- 20:38Speaker 1: There you have it, NewsRadio 570. You know what to
- 20:40Speaker 1: do with the weather advisory, so take note of that.
- 20:43Speaker 1: We're talking with John Arnold, Money Talks program. John, this
- 20:47Speaker 1: is a fascinating topic. I took a call on the
- 20:50Speaker 1: program either today or maybe it was yesterday when the
- 20:53Speaker 1: caller was saying they're making more money than they ever
- 20:57Speaker 1: thought they would make. In our community, we're talking, John,
- 20:59Speaker 1: in our community, than they ever dreamed that they would make.
- 21:02Speaker 3: And yet..
- 21:04Speaker 1: It seems as though it's not enough because of inflation.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Good guy, good career, good job. Shouldn't be worrying about
- 21:13Speaker 1: the things you're talking about. Everything that you were just
- 21:16Speaker 1: saying made me think of that caller who said how
- 21:20Speaker 1: concerned he was. And there's a big problem here. Is
- 21:23Speaker 1: it that capitalism, you've got too many people falling behind
- 21:28Speaker 1: who are working hard, as you describe, and the inflation
- 21:30Speaker 1: is so high that people are saying, let's try another way,
- 21:35Speaker 1: particularly younger people?
- 21:39Speaker 2: You've beaten them down into submission. So that's what we
- 21:42Speaker 2: do in jiu-jitsu. So we wear people down to where
- 21:45Speaker 2: they're just so weak, we put a submission receipt, put
- 21:48Speaker 2: a move on them. from the technique to where they're like,
- 21:50Speaker 2: they just tap out because they're just so exhausted or
- 21:52Speaker 2: the pain's too much. That is exactly what's going on.
- 21:55Speaker 2: And what especially young people in the middle class are saying, hey,
- 22:00Speaker 2: we're working 60 hours a week. We've been shutting the
- 22:03Speaker 2: lights off. We're doing everything right. And we're still not
- 22:06Speaker 2: making it. And we're making a ton of damn money. So,
- 22:10Speaker 2: you know, when you put people on the submission, two
- 22:13Speaker 2: things happen. Either they fully submit or they start to revolt.
- 22:17Speaker 2: And so my hope is that people grow a pair
- 22:19Speaker 2: of balls and start to revolt and say, enough's enough.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Right.
- 22:23Speaker 3: I certainly hope you're right about that. Stand by, John.
- 22:26Speaker 3: We're going to come back after the break.
- 22:28Speaker 1: We're going to talk about John's hedge fund and how
- 22:30Speaker 1: you can get involved in it and what it's all
- 22:33Speaker 1: about in segment number two. I got to tell you,
- 22:36Speaker 1: it's what I enjoy about talking with John Arnold when
- 22:40Speaker 1: he gives his assessment. Before I break, John, I mean,
- 22:44Speaker 1: I am still... Almost tongue-tied when I heard you talk
- 22:47Speaker 1: about you're worried about a recession and potentially a depression
- 22:51Speaker 1: based on how things are going because of AI, because
- 22:54Speaker 1: of inflation. I mean, that is just, I mean, that
- 22:59Speaker 1: is really stuns me. It really stuns me. Johnny can
- 23:02Speaker 1: elaborate a little bit more on that. We'll talk about
- 23:04Speaker 1: the hedge funds. It's something you don't want to miss.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Segment two, Money Talks with John Arnold. We're going to
- 23:11Speaker 1: hook up with John. Segment number two on NewsRadio 570.
- 23:14Speaker 1: But first, let me talk to you about Stadium GM
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- 23:18Speaker 1: want for GM is under one roof, whether that's Chevrolet,
- 23:22Speaker 1: whether that's Buick. Oh, and Buick is just making some
- 23:25Speaker 1: great product anymore. It's not your father's Buick anymore. And
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- 23:55Speaker 1: can tell you, as a customer. So if you're in
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- 24:01Speaker 1: not part of some large group of dealers. It's Stadium GM.
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- 24:19Speaker 1: you won't find a dealership that treats you any better
- 24:22Speaker 1: than the good folks at Stadium GM in the heart
- 24:24Speaker 1: of Salem. Now, I want to go back to John Arnold. Folks,
- 24:27Speaker 1: if you missed the first segments... One of the things
- 24:31Speaker 1: I personally enjoy the most is when I asked John
- 24:33Speaker 1: Earl what his thoughts are about how things are going
- 24:36Speaker 1: as far as the economy goes. If you miss the
- 24:38Speaker 1: first segment, you're going to have to listen to it
- 24:41Speaker 1: because he was talking. He's concerned about potentially a recession
- 24:46Speaker 1: and or even deepening. Everybody hates to hear the depression
- 24:49Speaker 1: word because it's much different than it would be, I think,
- 24:52Speaker 1: back in the day. But a recession or a very
- 24:54Speaker 1: deep recession is what you're concerned about, John. You were
- 24:57Speaker 1: talking because of the jobs that AI will replace. And
- 25:03Speaker 1: you were also talking about algorithms. I'll get back to that.
- 25:07Speaker 1: But you were talking about. the dangers of private equity firms.
- 25:12Speaker 3: Talk to me.
- 25:13Speaker 1: That was the third one. You had three reasons why
- 25:15Speaker 1: you were concerned about the future of the economy. What
- 25:17Speaker 1: did you mean by that?
- 25:20Speaker 2: Now that's the real demon that no one's talking about.
- 25:23Speaker 2: So private equity is a group of wealthy people. And
- 25:26Speaker 2: by the way, I'm probably going to start a private
- 25:27Speaker 2: equity fund for real estate and for businesses, but I
- 25:31Speaker 2: got to get my first one filled out first. But,
- 25:34Speaker 2: I'm hopefully that I don't go evil like majority of
- 25:37Speaker 2: these private equity firms do. So here's what happens. A
- 25:40Speaker 2: bunch of wealthy people that say, you know what, we
- 25:43Speaker 2: think that this actually happened. We think these eye care
- 25:47Speaker 2: centers that are owned by these mom and pop eye
- 25:50Speaker 2: doctors that are excellent at their job, we think we
- 25:54Speaker 2: can make them an offer for a really nice offer
- 25:57Speaker 2: and buy their practices out, get them to stay on
- 26:00Speaker 2: with us for a couple of years. and then transition
- 26:02Speaker 2: them out and plug our own stuff in, and then
- 26:06Speaker 2: balance the budget, so to speak, that's what the listeners
- 26:09Speaker 2: would understand, to where now it's way more profitable in
- 26:12Speaker 2: like five years. The numbers look really good on paper.
- 26:17Speaker 2: And then we sell it to another private equity firm
- 26:20Speaker 2: for 10x, which means 10 times the amount that they
- 26:22Speaker 2: paid it. So what's happening behind the scenes that no
- 26:25Speaker 2: one's talking about is these small businesses, the mediocre mid-sized
- 26:30Speaker 2: business that were owned by people like me and other
- 26:35Speaker 2: folks that truly cared about their customer, we're getting huge
- 26:38Speaker 2: checks to just say, you know what? I can't do
- 26:42Speaker 2: it anymore. And listen, one of the reasons why I,
- 26:47Speaker 2: by the way, turned down private equity to sell to
- 26:49Speaker 2: Adam and Joe because I had cost clients private it.
- 26:53Speaker 2: privately that I can't name that sold out the private equity.
- 26:56Speaker 2: And they said, Oh my God, what a nightmare that was.
- 26:59Speaker 2: They used and abused them. They were under contract. They
- 27:02Speaker 2: didn't get the final check until, you know, until the
- 27:05Speaker 2: very last month. And if they didn't meet the certain
- 27:07Speaker 2: number as far as retaining revenue or customers or both,
- 27:11Speaker 2: they didn't get their final check. So they had them
- 27:13Speaker 2: by the, you know, what's right. So, But boy, when
- 27:16Speaker 2: they can cash out, they cash out. I even had
- 27:19Speaker 2: one person cash out early. She said, screw the final check.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore. So what happens is these
- 27:26Speaker 2: wealthy people subscribe to a fund. This private equity fund
- 27:30Speaker 2: goes and buys a certain sector of business. And they
- 27:34Speaker 2: scale it. And what happens, scale means that economies are
- 27:38Speaker 2: scaled to where the more units, the lesser cost. And
- 27:42Speaker 2: they also apply something called a Pareto rule. A Pareto
- 27:44Speaker 2: rule is 80-20. So you might lose 20% of your clientele,
- 27:50Speaker 2: but the 80% that stay, you'll raise the price on them.
- 27:52Speaker 2: So you'll have less operating costs but more profit. And
- 27:57Speaker 2: it's worked. They figured it out. And you combine that
- 28:01Speaker 2: with the algorithms, and you combine that with AI, which
- 28:04Speaker 2: is going to make it even more efficient. Private equity, algorithms,
- 28:08Speaker 2: and AI in digital currency, I think, are the end
- 28:11Speaker 2: all for our days. I think that's going to be
- 28:14Speaker 2: the final stake in the heart for capitalism, for the
- 28:18Speaker 2: working man and woman to go out and start something.
- 28:20Speaker 2: And it's happening right before my very eyes. They're doing
- 28:23Speaker 2: it in the financial field. They're doing it in the
- 28:25Speaker 2: accounting field.
- 28:26Speaker 6: They..
- 28:27Speaker 2: I think Handles is out by private equity, majority of
- 28:29Speaker 2: it now. You wouldn't believe how many shops you think
- 28:34Speaker 2: are owned by mom and pop now that private equity owns.
- 28:37Speaker 2: And they're just writing out their days till they get
- 28:39Speaker 2: their final check. So when you walk into a clinic
- 28:42Speaker 2: now or a business and you're like, holy, you know what? Boy,
- 28:45Speaker 2: the service has really gone downhill or the product really
- 28:48Speaker 2: sucks or both. You know what's happening is private equity
- 28:52Speaker 2: has taken over. You just don't know it. They kept
- 28:54Speaker 2: the same name. They kept the same brand. They kept
- 28:57Speaker 2: the same everything. On the cover of the magazine, it
- 28:59Speaker 2: looks like the same people. It looks like the same operation.
- 29:02Speaker 2: But what you don't know, it's not the same service
- 29:04Speaker 2: and it's not the same product. You're probably getting a
- 29:07Speaker 2: way lesser product-related service because, again, their goal is to
- 29:10Speaker 2: make the numbers and the margins as big as possible
- 29:12Speaker 2: so they can solicit that group of whatever they bought
- 29:17Speaker 2: to a bigger private equity firm and get a bigger number.
- 29:21Speaker 3: And you know what?
- 29:21Speaker 2: Money talks and you know what walks. And you know
- 29:23Speaker 2: what happens? Say you got 100 people offering a million dollars,
- 29:28Speaker 2: that's $ 100 million. You start offering $ 5 million buyouts to
- 29:33Speaker 2: small medical clinics or small dentistry or small people that
- 29:38Speaker 2: build decks for a living. I'm just making stuff up.
- 29:41Speaker 2: They're going to take it because you know what? I
- 29:43Speaker 2: would too. If I'm just worn down and like I was.
- 29:48Speaker 3: No, no, no. Just pause for a second.
- 29:51Speaker 1: This is– I mean when– Folks, my ears are perking
- 29:55Speaker 1: up as he's talking, because I'm here to tell you,
- 29:58Speaker 1: this is going on in this community and so many
- 30:02Speaker 1: other communities. What you're saying is 100% true. They keep
- 30:07Speaker 1: the name of the small business that they bought. They
- 30:11Speaker 1: don't change the name or indicate that it's changed any
- 30:14Speaker 1: different at all. In many cases, like you say, they
- 30:16Speaker 1: keep the owners on for a period of time. But
- 30:19Speaker 1: it's owned by a private equity firm whose goal is
- 30:22Speaker 1: to how can we make more money? How can we
- 30:27Speaker 1: screw the customer more? And you're seeing this happen. In
- 30:32Speaker 1: the heating and cooling industry. My friend Bob Dieter talks
- 30:37Speaker 1: about it all the time. You're seeing in the heating
- 30:39Speaker 1: and cooling industry where local companies aren't local anymore. These
- 30:45Speaker 1: investment companies buy them. They have the technician that comes
- 30:48Speaker 1: out to fix your product. And instead of fixing it,
- 30:51Speaker 1: they tell you you need to replace it because they
- 30:53Speaker 1: incentivize the technician who should be repairing your thing that
- 30:57Speaker 1: if you sell them a new system or tell them
- 30:59Speaker 1: they need a new system, you'll get some big bonus
- 31:01Speaker 1: and everybody makes more money. But it costs the customer more.
- 31:04Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying? It's dishonest.
- 31:08Speaker 2: I'm explaining it. You know what?
- 31:11Speaker 1: I just want to emphasize, this is in funeral homes.
- 31:15Speaker 1: This is in heating and cooling. This is in funeral homes.
- 31:18Speaker 1: This is going on in so many small businesses that
- 31:21Speaker 1: have the same name, but it's owned by an investment company.
- 31:24Speaker 1: You are just spot on as you're talking. Go ahead, please.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. They are going to incorporate more
- 31:33Speaker 2: in AI. They're going to incorporate more low-level employees. They're
- 31:36Speaker 2: going to incorporate way less quality of a product. And
- 31:41Speaker 2: you're going to not realize it until it's too late.
- 31:43Speaker 2: And then they're going to resell it to another private
- 31:46Speaker 2: equity firm who's going to do the same thing but
- 31:49Speaker 2: even worse. And then before you even know it, 60%, 70%
- 31:52Speaker 2: of our manufacturers and service providers are going to be
- 31:56Speaker 2: private equity-based. Then what are you going to do?
- 32:00Speaker 1: Where the focus is all about how can we make
- 32:03Speaker 1: even more money. I mean, I do not want to
- 32:06Speaker 1: go to, as you were saying, an eye doctor clinic
- 32:09Speaker 1: that's bought by a private equity firm that tells the
- 32:11Speaker 1: eye doctor you've got to move the patients along. You've
- 32:13Speaker 1: got to get more people in there so we can
- 32:15Speaker 1: make more money.
- 32:16Speaker 3: Or a medical doctor.
- 32:18Speaker 1: You want to go to places like that that you
- 32:20Speaker 1: feel they have your best interest at heart, that they're
- 32:23Speaker 1: not part of a private equity firm.
- 32:26Speaker 3: I was reading where... Dr.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Allen wrote a letter to the Vindicator on how this
- 32:31Speaker 1: is very prevalent, John, in veterinary clinics.
- 32:35Speaker 2: Oh, it sure is.
- 32:37Speaker 1: And what do they do? They buy the veterinary services.
- 32:41Speaker 1: They put in new equipment. They kind of pressure the
- 32:45Speaker 1: vet to encourage people to use it.
- 32:49Speaker 3: It's costly.
- 32:50Speaker 1: I mean, when you read what he wrote in a paper,
- 32:52Speaker 1: this is just a place where you take your dog
- 32:54Speaker 1: or cat.
- 32:56Speaker 3: Uh-uh.
- 32:57Speaker 2: That's not what it is. To them, they don't even
- 32:59Speaker 2: look at it like that. They could give a rat's
- 33:01Speaker 2: ass what you're selling or servicing. They just know that
- 33:03Speaker 2: it's a profitable business and they can make it even
- 33:05Speaker 2: more profitable. That's the problem. There's no heart in it.
- 33:08Speaker 2: There's no humanity in it. There's just a numbers game.
- 33:11Speaker 2: And here's the other problem. They're using humanity against itself.
- 33:15Speaker 2: So let's say you've been working 30 years, and it's
- 33:19Speaker 2: hard to find employees, and the cost of everything is
- 33:21Speaker 2: going up, and you're getting the age to where your
- 33:24Speaker 2: kids are growing, your grandkids.
- 33:26Speaker 3: You want to retire.
- 33:26Speaker 2: There's always a $ 5 million check in front of you.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Right.
- 33:29Speaker 2: And they say, we're going to give you 60% of
- 33:33Speaker 2: this upfront, 20% on the second year if this revenue holds,
- 33:36Speaker 2: and then 20% thereafter, and then you're out of here.
- 33:39Speaker 2: You know what you're going to do? You're going to say,
- 33:41Speaker 2: you know what? I got to look out for my
- 33:42Speaker 2: own family and my own life because I only got
- 33:43Speaker 2: so many years left. I'm going to take that check.
- 33:45Speaker 3: Right.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Even if you don't want to, right?
- 33:47Speaker 7: Right.
- 33:48Speaker 2: Because here's the other thing that I was talking about.
- 33:50Speaker 2: It is so damn hard to get quality employees. So
- 33:53Speaker 2: when you're trying to run an operation how you used to,
- 33:56Speaker 2: you can't do it anymore. That was one of the
- 33:58Speaker 2: things that hurt me. I ran an operation that was militant. Like,
- 34:01Speaker 2: you said good morning, good afternoon. You answered the phone
- 34:04Speaker 2: on the second ring. You made sure that the client
- 34:07Speaker 2: knew that they were writing your paycheck. Like, you don't
- 34:11Speaker 2: come in late. You come just as soon. So all
- 34:12Speaker 2: the things that I was taught that I believed in,
- 34:14Speaker 2: those don't exist anymore. Now you go into a restaurant,
- 34:18Speaker 2: the host or host looks like a bum. They're on
- 34:20Speaker 2: the phone. You might get a good survey. You might not.
- 34:23Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. But what's happened is you got businesses
- 34:26Speaker 2: overwhelmed and basically submitted to saying, you know what? We
- 34:30Speaker 2: just want a body. We just want a body in
- 34:33Speaker 2: the place because we have no other option. Now in
- 34:36Speaker 2: comes private equity. So I'm going to save the day.
- 34:39Speaker 2: Here's this check. We're going to take over. Go live
- 34:42Speaker 2: happily ever after with your life in three years. And
- 34:45Speaker 2: you as a person are saying.
- 34:47Speaker 3: You know what?
- 34:48Speaker 2: I'll never do that. I'll never do it. And guess what?
- 34:50Speaker 2: There's a $ 3 or $ 5 million check in front of
- 34:52Speaker 2: your face, and you're getting older. You're saying, you know what?
- 34:54Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore. I'm taking the check. That's
- 34:56Speaker 2: what's going on. They have submitted humanity, and they submitted
- 35:00Speaker 2: the average American to saying, you know what? I got
- 35:02Speaker 2: to move forward because this is the end. I have
- 35:04Speaker 2: to live my best days out. And now America submitted
- 35:08Speaker 2: the private equity. What I just told you is straight truth.
- 35:10Speaker 2: And what Dr. Allen did, who's a straight talker too,
- 35:13Speaker 2: he's telling the truth. I'm telling you things, listeners, that
- 35:15Speaker 2: you maybe don't know what's going on. Right before your
- 35:18Speaker 2: very eyes, your country is unfolding. It's imploding right before
- 35:21Speaker 2: your eyes. And there's not a damn thing you're doing
- 35:23Speaker 2: about it.
- 35:24Speaker 3: And can I say a lot of this is greed?
- 35:29Speaker 3: It's all greed.
- 35:30Speaker 2: It's all greed.
- 35:31Speaker 1: This is perhaps why some of these young people are
- 35:33Speaker 1: voting Democrat Socialist, because they're looking around and seeing what's
- 35:37Speaker 1: going on. These folks are triggering that reaction. Revolutions are
- 35:43Speaker 1: fought on hungry bellies.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Exactly. But you know what's cool? No, it's cool. This
- 35:48Speaker 2: is all political. Exactly what private equity wants. They want robots.
- 35:53Speaker 2: They want to give you X amount of units, and
- 35:56Speaker 2: they want to say you get to work less money
- 35:57Speaker 2: or work less hours. We're going to give you less,
- 36:00Speaker 2: but you're going to get more time off, and that's
- 36:02Speaker 2: the new generation. That's what they're about. So they love
- 36:06Speaker 2: the socialism. They love the private equity. They love the
- 36:08Speaker 2: fact that they can have their little minions and their
- 36:10Speaker 2: robots because now they don't have competition. Their only other
- 36:14Speaker 2: competition is private equity, which is just other greed. That's
- 36:17Speaker 2: the only thing that matters now is greed. And you're
- 36:20Speaker 2: seeing it in medical, you're seeing it, like you said,
- 36:23Speaker 2: in funeral homes, in veterinarian, you're seeing it in dentistry,
- 36:25Speaker 2: you're seeing it especially in financial services practice, insurance practice,
- 36:30Speaker 2: accounting practice. They are scaling everything through private equity. And
- 36:34Speaker 2: guess what? That's why when you call somewhere and sometimes
- 36:38Speaker 2: you got an American, sometimes you got an Indian, now
- 36:39Speaker 2: you're strictly getting an Indian. You're strictly getting, you know,
- 36:44Speaker 2: Wong Kung Foo-y from somewhere. At the end of the day,
- 36:46Speaker 2: it pisses me off because it's the opposite of what
- 36:49Speaker 2: this country is built on. But they have you under
- 36:51Speaker 2: their thumb. And you're right. It's driving everything. That's the
- 36:54Speaker 2: plan towards socialism. And unfortunately, there's a guy who's trying
- 36:59Speaker 2: to save it and some people with him. His name
- 37:00Speaker 2: is Donald Trump.
- 37:02Speaker 3: But guess what?
- 37:03Speaker 2: He's not going to win. He might win temporarily. But
- 37:07Speaker 2: this title wave is coming. and there's not a thing
- 37:10Speaker 2: you can do to stop it.
- 37:12Speaker 1: Well, as you were talking, I was thinking about where
- 37:15Speaker 1: Trump wants to limit how many homes these investment firms
- 37:19Speaker 1: would be buying, private homes. I mean, the ones like
- 37:23Speaker 1: all of us live in, and they would be buying
- 37:25Speaker 1: them with no inspection and be giving you more than
- 37:28Speaker 1: asking because they wanted to buy all the private homes,
- 37:31Speaker 1: raising the home prices on the market, shutting out first-time
- 37:34Speaker 1: homebuyers so that they could dominate it as far.
- 37:37Speaker 3: As rentals are concerned.
- 37:38Speaker 1: I mean, that's a shining example, isn't it, of what
- 37:41Speaker 1: you're talking about?
- 37:41Speaker 2: You control the supply and demand of the housing market.
- 37:45Speaker 2: And four years to six years, they've controlled the housing market.
- 37:49Speaker 2: That's why we have in some states the average daughter
- 37:51Speaker 2: home in a million dollars, because of BlackRock. And shame
- 37:54Speaker 2: on the people who let that happen. And here's the
- 37:57Speaker 2: guy trying to undo it, and he's being treated like
- 37:59Speaker 2: some kind of ass. And it's wrong. He's the only one.
- 38:03Speaker 2: He's fighting for both parties. He's fighting for the middle class,
- 38:05Speaker 2: the lower class, and the high class with that. But
- 38:07Speaker 2: BlackRock is like Vanguard and the other, what is it, Street?
- 38:11Speaker 2: They own like 70% of the S & P 500.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Good luck fighting those guys.
- 38:19Speaker 3: Wow.
- 38:21Speaker 1: I mean, I hope people are paying attention to this
- 38:23Speaker 1: because it is exactly what is going on. We're talking
- 38:28Speaker 1: with John Arnold, Money Talks, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. So you
- 38:33Speaker 1: mentioned about, we all know AI replacing jobs, and you mentioned...
- 38:37Speaker 1: these private equity firms, which is excellent. You lost me
- 38:41Speaker 1: a little bit on algorithms. You mean just tracking where
- 38:45Speaker 1: you are, what you're buying? Is that what you mean
- 38:47Speaker 1: by that real quick?
- 38:48Speaker 2: So an algorithm is now a computerized actuary. So it's
- 38:53Speaker 2: using AI to perform an algorithm. An algorithm is basically
- 38:56Speaker 2: a math efficiency theory that basically says, for, I don't know,
- 39:02Speaker 2: every hundred units, here's the probabilities of what's gonna happen.
- 39:05Speaker 2: They have mathematically figured it out on a computer. So
- 39:09Speaker 2: that's what that means. Like back in the day, a
- 39:12Speaker 2: human being, and it went to Ivy League school and
- 39:14Speaker 2: became what's called an actuary, they figured out at age
- 39:18Speaker 2: 40 the probability that somebody who's a smoker is probably
- 39:22Speaker 2: gonna die at this age. Someone who's not a smoker
- 39:25Speaker 2: is probably gonna die at this age. That would be
- 39:27Speaker 2: like a human capital algorithm. Now what's happened is, that's
- 39:31Speaker 2: why you have all these insurance companies that are coming
- 39:33Speaker 2: out of the woodwork saying, go online and apply for
- 39:35Speaker 2: this and we'll give you a policy overnight. They have
- 39:38Speaker 2: figured out from an algorithm to a perfect mathematic probability
- 39:43Speaker 2: on a ratio that if you're this age and you
- 39:45Speaker 2: have these medical symptoms and you're a smoker, you are
- 39:49Speaker 2: going to probably die within these months, X amount of
- 39:52Speaker 2: months from here. It could be 30 months, it could
- 39:54Speaker 2: be 100, I don't know. But they have made a
- 39:57Speaker 2: perfect algorithm To put the companies against humanity. That's why
- 40:06Speaker 2: your iPhone knows what to advertise to you. That's an algorithm.
- 40:11Speaker 2: Your iPhone might hear you talking about Home Depot and
- 40:14Speaker 2: going and.
- 40:14Speaker 3: Getting a grill.
- 40:15Speaker 2: And sure enough, you go on Facebook, there's going to
- 40:17Speaker 2: be 10 grills advertised to you in the next second.
- 40:19Speaker 2: That's an algorithm.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, it makes total sense to me. Let me
- 40:26Speaker 1: talk about the hedge funds. So much to talk about
- 40:29Speaker 1: with John Arnold here on Thursday night with Money Talks
- 40:32Speaker 1: on News Radio 570. Now I want to go and
- 40:35Speaker 1: I want to talk about the hedge funds. Going better
- 40:40Speaker 1: than you dreamed, obviously. I mean, it's something that you
- 40:42Speaker 1: always wanted to start. It occupies a heck of a
- 40:45Speaker 1: lot of your time. You still have some openings available.
- 40:49Speaker 1: But when you reach 100, that hedge fund is then capped.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about the hedge fund, the requirements,
- 40:56Speaker 1: what it's all about for people that are listening for
- 40:59Speaker 1: the first time. The John Arnold hedge funds.
- 41:02Speaker 3: Tell them about it.
- 41:04Speaker 4: All right, listen.
- 41:04Speaker 2: So you have to be an accredited investor, which is
- 41:07Speaker 2: one of the things I love. Okay, you have to
- 41:09Speaker 2: have one of. You don't have to have all of these.
- 41:11Speaker 2: You have to have one of. You have to have
- 41:13Speaker 2: $ 1 million in assets between you and your wife outside
- 41:16Speaker 2: of your permanent residence. So if you live in a
- 41:18Speaker 2: house in Ohio and that's your permanent residence, but you
- 41:21Speaker 2: have a rental property and you have a home in Florida,
- 41:24Speaker 2: the rental property and the home in Florida count as
- 41:26Speaker 2: your assets. So you might have $ 600, 000 in a 401k,
- 41:29Speaker 2: $ 200, 000 in a savings account, and maybe another $ 500, 000 for
- 41:33Speaker 2: rental properties and a vacation home. Now you're well over
- 41:37Speaker 2: the million. So that would count. Or if you don't
- 41:42Speaker 2: have that, but you make over $ 200, 000 a year for
- 41:45Speaker 2: the past two years, you're an accredited investor. Or if
- 41:49Speaker 2: you have the ability to just dump in $ 200, 000, you're
- 41:52Speaker 2: an accredited investor. So one of those three have to happen.
- 41:57Speaker 2: Here's the reason why people have been loving the hedge fund.
- 42:01Speaker 2: It's me and 99 other investors that own this same
- 42:04Speaker 2: exact buy. Not more, not less, just we own these stocks.
- 42:10Speaker 2: We can make a hedge fund anything. I can buy
- 42:12Speaker 2: gravel at $ 10 a pound or a ton and then
- 42:16Speaker 2: sell it 30 days later for $ 100 a ton. There's
- 42:19Speaker 2: a 90% gain there, right? So my point is... Because
- 42:24Speaker 2: what I know, this is what I think I'm an
- 42:26Speaker 2: expert in. I can't prove it. I think I'm an
- 42:29Speaker 2: expert at better than average at stocks. So me and
- 42:32Speaker 2: 99 other investors own this pie of stocks. And you're saying, John,
- 42:36Speaker 2: I want you to perform. And if you don't perform,
- 42:38Speaker 2: we'll owe money back. The end. So at the end
- 42:41Speaker 2: of every month, we say this is what our fund
- 42:44Speaker 2: performed at. The end. I don't tell you what's in
- 42:46Speaker 2: the fund. I don't tell you up or down. Each position,
- 42:49Speaker 2: it just says at the end of 30 days, We
- 42:53Speaker 2: performed at this, the end. The cool thing I did
- 42:56Speaker 2: for our what's called limited partners is I only have
- 42:58Speaker 2: a 30-day hold. I'm not doing this for a living.
- 43:01Speaker 2: I'm doing this more for ego and to do something
- 43:03Speaker 2: I love and which I think I'm really good at.
- 43:05Speaker 2: So if you want out of the fund, all right,
- 43:08Speaker 2: you can get your money back out in 30 days.
- 43:09Speaker 2: I don't care. Somebody else is going to come in
- 43:11Speaker 2: for you. It doesn't bother me. So I built it
- 43:14Speaker 2: to where it's very advantageous for the client. Now, the
- 43:18Speaker 2: other thing I did that I think is very advantageous
- 43:20Speaker 2: is I have for me to get paid... I'm going
- 43:23Speaker 2: to make the fund 5% first. So if you put
- 43:26Speaker 2: in $ 100, 000, I'm going to make you 5%, which is $ 105, 000.
- 43:31Speaker 2: My clock, my fee doesn't start ticking until we start
- 43:34Speaker 2: hitting above $ 105, 000. And that's something you don't get in
- 43:37Speaker 2: other firms. So that's one of the things... Wealthy people
- 43:41Speaker 2: or wealthier people love about hedge fund investing is, one,
- 43:45Speaker 2: I have to perform no matter what the stock market does.
- 43:48Speaker 2: And two, there's a hurdle rate, which I just said.
- 43:50Speaker 2: They're going to get paid first, not me. Whereas before
- 43:54Speaker 2: when I owned the RA investment firm that Rockport bought,
- 43:57Speaker 2: I got paid on the total account value. Market went down,
- 44:00Speaker 2: I still got paid. Market went up, still got paid.
- 44:02Speaker 2: Did I lose when the market lost?
- 44:03Speaker 3: Yes, I did.
- 44:04Speaker 2: Did I make more money when the market made more? Yes,
- 44:05Speaker 2: I did. So we were kind of on the same team.
- 44:08Speaker 2: But now it's full functional performance. You either believe in
- 44:12Speaker 2: what I'm doing as a manager or you don't. And
- 44:15Speaker 2: if you don't, you just cash out. So that's why
- 44:18Speaker 2: there's been an overflow of people that I never in
- 44:22Speaker 2: a million years thought I was going to get this
- 44:24Speaker 2: many people. I have 58 signed commitments with another potential
- 44:28Speaker 2: 20 verbal. And the only reason why they're verbal is
- 44:30Speaker 2: because there's only me and another guy getting the application
- 44:34Speaker 2: process done. And I used to have a pretty sizable staff.
- 44:37Speaker 2: So it's just, there's this in line waiting. But man,
- 44:41Speaker 2: when I get to 100, it's filled up. Now here's
- 44:43Speaker 2: the day I'm dreaming of. Let's say October, November rolls around.
- 44:47Speaker 2: And I say, hey, me and Steve got this fund
- 44:50Speaker 2: up to say, again, here's a guess. Let's say it's
- 44:52Speaker 2: up 30% in August, excuse me, in October. I get
- 44:55Speaker 2: to report that on the radio, audited results, audited. And
- 44:59Speaker 2: so somebody can say, man, that guy really, That's what
- 45:02Speaker 2: he's doing. Or, let's say in October, hey, we're underperforming.
- 45:07Speaker 2: Now I have an uphill challenge. But it's all math.
- 45:10Speaker 2: And that's what I'm about. I used to tell people
- 45:13Speaker 2: who came into our firm, there's a guy that signed
- 45:14Speaker 2: up for the hedge fund. He said, you know why
- 45:17Speaker 2: I signed up with you? Because everybody else is pitching
- 45:19Speaker 2: about They're pitching me about, well, my kids played soccer,
- 45:23Speaker 2: and we'll go to church, and let me take you
- 45:25Speaker 2: out to lunch and take you out to golf. And
- 45:26Speaker 2: he said, you said, I don't care about any of
- 45:29Speaker 2: that stuff. I want you to succeed, and I'm happy
- 45:32Speaker 2: you're having a happy family life. But you know what?
- 45:34Speaker 2: I said, listen, you know what I care about? I
- 45:36Speaker 2: want to beat the S & P. I want to
- 45:38Speaker 2: make you the most money as possible. That's what I
- 45:40Speaker 2: care about. And he said, his wife actually said, her
- 45:42Speaker 2: name was Libby. She said, that's why we picked you.
- 45:45Speaker 2: You are the guy telling me what nobody else wanted
- 45:48Speaker 2: to tell us. And that's what matters to us. If
- 45:50Speaker 2: a friendship forms, great. If not, it's just like you
- 45:53Speaker 2: can go see a surgeon. And that guy could be
- 45:56Speaker 2: the biggest what in the world. But if he can
- 45:58Speaker 2: fix my heart and I can walk out of there
- 46:01Speaker 2: and I'm still living to provide my family, that's what
- 46:03Speaker 2: matters to me. If I have the nicest guy in
- 46:06Speaker 2: the world, but he can't perform heart surgery, no thank you.
- 46:09Speaker 2: So in my world, math matters. And this with a
- 46:12Speaker 2: hedge fund, it's strictly math. Either I'm performing or I don't.
- 46:16Speaker 2: It doesn't matter I'm 5'8, brown hair, blue eyes. It
- 46:18Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you think I'm this or that. At
- 46:20Speaker 2: the end of the day, I'm either a performer or
- 46:22Speaker 2: I don't, and that's why I dreamed of this day.
- 46:24Speaker 2: Because now it's full-blown math.
- 46:27Speaker 3: The end.
- 46:28Speaker 2: And math wins.
- 46:30Speaker 3: Well, absolutely.
- 46:33Speaker 1: So, John gave you the criteria if you're interested in
- 46:36Speaker 1: getting involved in his hedge funds. 100, it gets capped
- 46:41Speaker 1: out at 100. And so this is actively managed by
- 46:45Speaker 1: you each and every day on an active basis to..
- 46:50Speaker 2: Hourly.
- 46:51Speaker 1: I mean, it occupies a lot of time. But one
- 46:53Speaker 1: of the things that you said on a previous show
- 46:55Speaker 1: is you started a hedge fund. A lot of hedge funds,
- 46:57Speaker 1: you've got to have a million dollars or whatever you
- 46:59Speaker 1: were saying in previous ones. You wanted to start a
- 47:01Speaker 1: hedge fund for this area that's... regular people could kind
- 47:06Speaker 1: of get into. People that have some money saved could
- 47:09Speaker 1: participate in and get involved in a hedge.
- 47:15Speaker 2: Fund. I've been a hedge fund for people like me
- 47:17Speaker 2: who came from nothing and built some wealth at I couldn't,
- 47:20Speaker 2: I would never be invited to settle the hedge fund
- 47:22Speaker 2: or any, any other like Ray Dalio's fund, which is
- 47:25Speaker 2: a $ 25 million entry fee. Like, like, or not fee,
- 47:28Speaker 2: but minimum, like, right. Why can't we, why can't people
- 47:32Speaker 2: like us, you Ron, why can't we get into a
- 47:34Speaker 2: hedge fund too? And now you can't.
- 47:35Speaker 3: Right.
- 47:36Speaker 2: And then now I get to go one-on-one with these
- 47:38Speaker 2: guys and whip their ass. And that's, that's what I'm about.
- 47:41Speaker 1: There you have it. Now, if you're interested, we got
- 47:45Speaker 1: an email and phone number. If you're interested in getting
- 47:48Speaker 1: into hedge funds, that John Arnold's talking about that he
- 47:52Speaker 1: manages with a couple of other associates. How do you
- 47:56Speaker 1: explore the hedge fund? How do they get a hold
- 47:58Speaker 1: of you, John?
- 47:59Speaker 2: Yeah, you can call us at 330-288-7709. 330-288-7709. If you
- 48:02Speaker 2: don't like phone, then here's my email. J-O-N period Arnold
- 48:05Speaker 2: at theinvestment.coach. Again, J-O-N, period, A-R-N-O-L-D, at The Investment, period, Coach.
- 48:25Speaker 2: And if you reach out to me either way, we're
- 48:26Speaker 2: going to call you back. Or if you get me
- 48:29Speaker 2: just on a rare moment where I can answer the phone,
- 48:32Speaker 2: we're going to talk and I'm going to interview you.
- 48:33Speaker 2: You're going to interview me. I'm going to teach you
- 48:35Speaker 2: about the hedge fund. If you qualify, like I said,
- 48:38Speaker 2: we're at the 58 paper commence, which means the signs
- 48:41Speaker 2: are delivered, 20 on deck. We've got some openings, and
- 48:45Speaker 2: when it's filled, it's filled.
- 48:46Speaker 1: All right.
- 48:46Speaker 3: Phone number real quick. One more time.
- 48:48Speaker 2: 330-288-7709. 330-288-7709. All right. I like talking to people regardless.
- 49:00Speaker 3: Thank you, John.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. That's John Arnold's Money Talk. On Thursday,
- 49:04Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570, Dodie Kivian and Ron Ferb. Going to be
- 49:07Speaker 1: off Friday, Monday, and Tuesday. Back on Wednesday, Sean Hannity.
- 49:15Speaker 4: From ABC News, I'm Dave Packer An urgent search and
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- 49:32Speaker 6: With at least 20 aftershocks reported, officials warning residents to
- 49:36Speaker 6: stay outdoors and away from damaged structures. U.S.
- 49:39Speaker 3: Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
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- 49:43Speaker 6: rescue teams, medical resources, and humanitarian assistance to Venezuela. Victor Akendo,
- 49:50Speaker 6: ABC News.
- 49:51Speaker 4: The Supreme Court handing President Trump a pair of wins today,
- 49:54Speaker 4: ruling that the administration can on its own end temporary
- 49:58Speaker 4: protected status for hundreds of thousands of migrants from Syria
- 50:01Speaker 4: and Haiti. Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey slamming the ruling today.
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- 50:26Speaker 4: In the other ruling, the high court allowing the Trump
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- 50:40Speaker 4: Martinez with the latest.
- 50:41Speaker 9: What we have from a U.S. official is that, yes,
- 50:43Speaker 9: there was an Iranian attack on a vessel. that was
- 50:46Speaker 9: carried out by an Iranian drone that caused some damage.
- 50:49Speaker 2: To the ship's bridge.
- 50:51Speaker 9: And of course, yes, this would be the first time
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