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#107 - Icewear Vezzo · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Whole Care Podcast Special guests, Man the Homie Detroit's Finance.
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  Speaker 1: I swear vesit in the building. Man, It's like, God,
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  Speaker 1: what did it do? Welcome, Welcome Milcael Man. You say
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  Speaker 1: to brother, Yes, sir, first of all, congratulations Man to
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  Speaker 1: glow up. Since you left Motown has been glorious, sir. Absolutely, Nah,
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  Speaker 1: stop grying back to back. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like my fucking dependent on so shit like
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  Speaker 1: having it, having your first child, or getting your first
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  Speaker 1: apartment or your first house. It's crazy because look, when
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  Speaker 1: you are ex signed to a quote unquote major right
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  Speaker 1: you got out, you know, you did the major shit,
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  Speaker 1: you ran around, you know, but it's like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like somehow it held you back, absolutely because I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: doing the shit that I wanted to do. And just
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know one thing about it. Every
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  Speaker 1: artist know what's best for them. That's the thing that's
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  Speaker 1: what labels managers my fucking pr Everybody got to understand
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  Speaker 1: that about artists. We know what's best for us, we
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  Speaker 1: know what we want, we know what worked for us.
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  Speaker 1: We pay attention to ourselves more than anybody do. So
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  Speaker 1: you got to think we're dealing with a major, you
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  Speaker 1: basically going to a motherfucker who from the outside looking
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  Speaker 1: in and like, all right, you should do this, you
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  Speaker 1: should do that, you know what I mean. It's like
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  Speaker 1: telling somebody that's like somebody who didn't raise you, telling
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  Speaker 1: you what's best for you as an adult, Like you
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  Speaker 1: got to where you were by doing something, and it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like once then you then you get on board
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  Speaker 1: with a major, and then they don't want to They're
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  Speaker 1: asking you to stop doing what got you there, And
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  Speaker 1: logically it doesn't make sense because like what I've been
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  Speaker 1: doing obviously got y'all interested, So the first we stopped
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  Speaker 1: doing what got yall attention, it don't make sense, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like the labels should
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  Speaker 1: just give input, pay for the ship they need to
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  Speaker 1: pay for, and do the bigger level shit and let
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  Speaker 1: us run. Let us run, let us under our music
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  Speaker 1: and the way we want to market ourselves. Those motherfucker
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  Speaker 1: ain't doing no dumb shit, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: And so that matter. Yeah, I feel like since you've
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  Speaker 1: got nothing mad, like like you said, nothing's holding you back,
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  Speaker 1: You've been just dropping NonStop, and that's really that's what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you want the hottest artist in the game
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  Speaker 1: right now, and that's based on you, absolutely, your work
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  Speaker 1: at the your output. That freedom. Freedom is like, Man,
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  Speaker 1: this shit don't cost me nothing. Feel me like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: you know I handle my business with the producer so
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  Speaker 1: that that process is easy. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: We got social media which is free. Instagram ain't charging
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  Speaker 1: no monthly fee. That ship is free, you feel me.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like just even having my YouTube free, so
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  Speaker 1: I ain't no point in holding nothing. Ship is all free.
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  Speaker 1: When I'm gonna sit on this shit and think too
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  Speaker 1: hard about it, folks overthinking, We overthink it. You people
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  Speaker 1: overthink shit way too much. If they don't like it,
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  Speaker 1: do some more shit, Just drop some more and that's
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  Speaker 1: just the piece of more piece of your independent catalog.
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  Speaker 1: Can't lose fans from dropping too much music. You lose
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  Speaker 1: fans from doing dumb, goofy shit. You lose fans from
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  Speaker 1: sitting on your hands too long, and then they forget
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  Speaker 1: about you. It's key. Do you feel like you had
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  Speaker 1: to win some fans back? Absolutely? I had. It went
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  Speaker 1: on my fans, but every single one of them motherfuckers
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  Speaker 1: all up. I feel like they stopped believing that I
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  Speaker 1: was hungry, and I was hungry in the bitch. You
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  Speaker 1: feel me like Nigga's starving, like I want this shit,
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  Speaker 1: but in they mind, just me moving on that major
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  Speaker 1: level and doing shit that I really didn't align with.
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  Speaker 1: You feel me made don't feel like how this nigga
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  Speaker 1: made it? You know when people here, you got a
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  Speaker 1: record deal, that's like hearing a nigga just went to
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  Speaker 1: the NBA or the NFL. You feel me. So they
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  Speaker 1: automatically feel like, alright, he made it, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So yeah, most definitely I had to get
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  Speaker 1: all my fans. Yeah, I think like I think that
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  Speaker 1: that also is like a myth that's finally sort of
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  Speaker 1: like slowly going away. Yeah, because a lot of artists
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  Speaker 1: like it's a it's the biggest mistake they could ever
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  Speaker 1: make it signed into a major and they making that
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  Speaker 1: shit vocal. You know what I mean, A lot of
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  Speaker 1: artists is being real vocal about not going to no maze. Man,
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  Speaker 1: how important it is to have independency and you know,
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  Speaker 1: move and be hands on with your ship, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So definitely that that that's that thing
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  Speaker 1: kind of going out the window you mentioned obviously handling
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  Speaker 1: everything within your team in house, yourself, working with the producers, yourself,
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  Speaker 1: figuring figuring out how to get them situated yourself. So
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  Speaker 1: how what's the distro? Is it tuned? Core? Is a distro? Kid?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? Like? How you doing the distro? Founde? Some
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  Speaker 1: media shout out to found shout out to the homie
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  Speaker 1: league out the lead at least solid all the way
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  Speaker 1: up and down, just one hundred, like he understands. It
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  Speaker 1: ain't no, it ain't never no debate, It ain't never
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  Speaker 1: no argument or no back and forth. He don't try.
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  Speaker 1: He like, listen, man, this is the one to dude,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing it. Fuck it like he feel like how
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  Speaker 1: we feel about it? What we got to lose all?
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  Speaker 1: He says, stay consistent, keep putting that shit out, stay
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  Speaker 1: consistent with his music. So he get it. That's the
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  Speaker 1: only way too, man, Because you know, if you think
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  Speaker 1: about like your lane, right, it's a very crowded lane
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  Speaker 1: for shit, so like and so you you in order
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  Speaker 1: for you to stand out, you gotta gotta do the most.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta keep pressing, pressing, pressing, blade pressure. I ain't
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  Speaker 1: no antis type person like I ain't with antis and
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  Speaker 1: gimmicks like I don't do like goofy shit, goofy lane
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  Speaker 1: man ship, I don't do. I don't not be myself.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get on the internet posting guns and ship
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  Speaker 1: like I'm a real street nigga. I really come from that.
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  Speaker 1: You got niggas that start rapping and they try to
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  Speaker 1: run to the streets. You got real street niggas that
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  Speaker 1: start rapping and leave from that ship like them niggas
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  Speaker 1: going there. I'm going here, y'all. Go ahead, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know all that's about. Go ahead, you
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  Speaker 1: feel me. I ain't with none of that lane man ship.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't with no I ain't doing no rap bef
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  Speaker 1: for no niggas. I'm not doing no all that this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing none of that ship with none of
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  Speaker 1: it with nobody. I ain't with nonheing of that. So
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  Speaker 1: for me, it's just strictly music. That's all. That's all
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  Speaker 1: I can provide to the rap game is music that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't say was that hard for you? Because obviously Detroit
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  Speaker 1: at the moment is one of the more popping scenes
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  Speaker 1: in hip hop, and I do feel like right now
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  Speaker 1: at least it seems as if everyone who's popping out
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  Speaker 1: the city for the most part, are kind of moving
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  Speaker 1: in the same direction as to where in the past
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  Speaker 1: it felt like there was a lot of friction between
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the popping artists in Detroit as to
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  Speaker 1: where now. You know, I know there's different sides of town,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, between yourself, Baby Face, Ray Pedro, Giovanni Peasy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh real, the young og is obviously from Flynn,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, right. I just feel like it seems like Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: whether or not, y'all are like hanging out together. That's
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  Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. It just seems like there's a movement,
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  Speaker 1: and it seems like it's at least in a respectful
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  Speaker 1: way as opposed to you know, because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that might kind of been the issue with Detroit in
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  Speaker 1: the past. I know it was. It was it was
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  Speaker 1: the friction, It was the misunderstanding, the lack of communication,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: some of the brothers before us felt as if it
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  Speaker 1: was enough money for everybody. We get it. We know
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  Speaker 1: it's enough money for every motherfucking body, like, and we
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  Speaker 1: all got the same content. Basically, we rap about the
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  Speaker 1: same shit we rapped on the same beats down there,
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  Speaker 1: like and if it ain't the same, but we're still
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  Speaker 1: talking about the same shit, just in different ways. And
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  Speaker 1: everybody succeeding that. So that just show you it's enough money,
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  Speaker 1: it's enough opportunity, it's enough listeners and follow us for
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  Speaker 1: every fucking body. Everybody in Detroit rap scene got a
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  Speaker 1: relationship somehow, someway. Everybody know each other. Some niggas might
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  Speaker 1: talk to might not talk to the next nigga. Some
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  Speaker 1: you heard some niggas entries may not. However it is
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  Speaker 1: it's still an understanding, like we're not gonna embarrass this bitch,
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  Speaker 1: though we ain't gonna make it. We ain't about to
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  Speaker 1: look bad for the seeing. We all feel like that.
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  Speaker 1: For you, did you have to get past like that
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  Speaker 1: mentality ever, cause like obviously you got locked up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no questioning what you know, your credibility in the
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  Speaker 1: streets and shit, But it feels like you're all the
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  Speaker 1: way in on this rap shit. And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that is the difference because sometimes man, like you can't
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  Speaker 1: be nine toes in the rap shit and one toe
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  Speaker 1: back in the street shit. That's why I went to
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  Speaker 1: the fist, you know what I'm saying, So, like, what
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  Speaker 1: what did it take for you to get mentally past
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  Speaker 1: that mind state where you, you know, gave a fuck
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  Speaker 1: about the petty shit, or would participate in certain share
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  Speaker 1: or let maybe shit that would bother you maybe five
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  Speaker 1: years are going not bother you anymore. It took for
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  Speaker 1: me to lose absolutely everything I had. It took for
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  Speaker 1: me to lose people that I love, It took for
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  Speaker 1: me to lose opportunity. I literally went flat and fuck broke.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, hundreds of thousands, like we
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  Speaker 1: ain't gonna talk about no amount or no I don't
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  Speaker 1: even nigga has some papers. So you know, I lost
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  Speaker 1: a lot of shit. And it took it took that
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  Speaker 1: for me to understand how pride really worked and how
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  Speaker 1: you know, understanding work kind of self preservation work. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. It took for me to to
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  Speaker 1: It took for that for me to understand that I'm
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  Speaker 1: a man. I don't given fuck with no nigga think
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  Speaker 1: about me. I already got it. I got an old lady.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what no I'm not. You heard I rock.
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  Speaker 1: I rocked that way. So I don't fuck what a
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  Speaker 1: nigga think about me. But it took for all. It
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  Speaker 1: took all that for me to understand that, and the
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  Speaker 1: moment I got that understanding, shit elevated for me. Financially.
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  Speaker 1: I got more money than I ever had. I never
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  Speaker 1: I never. I always knew I would have this type
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  Speaker 1: of paper, but I just didn't really see it. I
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  Speaker 1: ain't never had the type of money I got, especially
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  Speaker 1: like then, like nigga was hustling. I thought I was
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  Speaker 1: rich back then. I got real money. Now, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: now you got something to lose, right. I'm not to
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  Speaker 1: say you never had that before because you lost it already,
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  Speaker 1: But now you know that. I didn't know what I
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  Speaker 1: had to lose until I lost that ship. That's like
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  Speaker 1: losing a good bitch and you ain't know she was
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  Speaker 1: a good one. It was too late, and another nigga
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  Speaker 1: get it and show how to have it her, Like
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, like I got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of shit to lose, I got the same
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  Speaker 1: thing to lose now that I had then. It's just
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it more now I have family. Then I
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  Speaker 1: had a child, Then I had a rap career in
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  Speaker 1: I had businesses then right I lost that ship. I
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  Speaker 1: ain't appreciate it. I appreciate that shit, nah, I think
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  Speaker 1: like you know, like I said, man, it's clear you're
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  Speaker 1: doing better than you've ever been. But you got the
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  Speaker 1: blinders on and you're working hard. I mean, man, you're
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  Speaker 1: working your ass off. Talk to me about rich Off.
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  Speaker 1: Pint's the first one. Obviously a huge I mean the
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  Speaker 1: sequels coming out tomorrow. But that project I think really
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  Speaker 1: solidified a lot for you. I think it did, too,
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  Speaker 1: went up. I wasn't even expecting it. Like that was
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  Speaker 1: around when I dropped rich Yard Points too. That was
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  Speaker 1: that point where that was the first project I dropped
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  Speaker 1: when I left MO time. And that's when I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I don't I'm I'm only making music
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  Speaker 1: for me. I'm making the ship that I'm gonna listen to.
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  Speaker 1: And I get in my car, I want to listen
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  Speaker 1: to the ship that I want to listen to on
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  Speaker 1: a plane, like cause I'm looking forward to for other
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  Speaker 1: niggas to make the music that that that can motivate me.
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  Speaker 1: I say, you know, I'm motivating my motherfucking soup. So
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  Speaker 1: that was the record where I stopped overthinking. That was
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  Speaker 1: the album. I stopped overthinking and I started having fun
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  Speaker 1: with that ship, and I think that's why the outcome
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  Speaker 1: was what it was. So I really learned to don't don't, don't,
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  Speaker 1: don't overthink it and not be in it for for
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  Speaker 1: for the certain ship like I'm not in this shit
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  Speaker 1: for money, no for no more. And at that time,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't had what I got right now financially, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, nigga ain't get some money and they'd be like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't working for the money. I wouldn't. I ain't
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  Speaker 1: had no real paper. Then you know, I went in
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  Speaker 1: the streets when I dropped rich out Planks too, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was all still rap money. Yeah, So it was
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  Speaker 1: just that shit taught me a lot, just moving that way,
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  Speaker 1: not being in shit for money and stream almost like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like you when you do things and the motive is
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  Speaker 1: I'm chasing a hit or I'm chasing whatever's hopp I
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  Speaker 1: think this is what's gonna work on Spotify. That ship
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, never works out, but when you
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  Speaker 1: just stay true to yourself motive genuine you always win.
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  Speaker 1: I just learned that. I learned that shit with experience,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like there was like you know, when
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  Speaker 1: you were on Motown, it felt like, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: come up to the mixture meeting a couple of times
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  Speaker 1: and it's almost like we got to chase a hit,
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  Speaker 1: so these motherfuckers are let me drop music. It was
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  Speaker 1: like shit, I was exactly what it was. I got
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  Speaker 1: to hurry up and get these folks they want so
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  Speaker 1: I can do me. I was chasing the hit. I
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  Speaker 1: was in that ship for success. I was in that
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  Speaker 1: ship to take care of my family, to get money
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  Speaker 1: and get rich. I had that on my mind every day.
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  Speaker 1: I woke up and I strived as a rapper. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta get rich. I gotta I gotta make myself a millionaire.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta do this, I gotta do that. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: get I gotta get these trends. I need to go gold.
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  Speaker 1: I need to go plan them. I gotta be big
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  Speaker 1: so I don't waste this opportunity. I got this with
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  Speaker 1: this record label and the moment I once they got
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  Speaker 1: out the situation, all that shit went with it. I
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  Speaker 1: let all that shit go. When I let that shit go,
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  Speaker 1: you heard so, and the outcomes just is amazing and
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  Speaker 1: it still is amazing. I'm still growing, Like I got
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  Speaker 1: a long way to go from where I want to be.
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  Speaker 1: I got extremely long way to go. Like you look
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  Speaker 1: at a lot of a lot of my peers in
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  Speaker 1: the rap game, and I ain't just saying niggas from
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  Speaker 1: the trade just street artists over overall guys that wrap
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  Speaker 1: about the street. His niggas really turn niggas. Got a
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  Speaker 1: hundred million on this bitch, I got a long fucking
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  Speaker 1: way to go. Well, also a lot of these guys,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you gotta, you know, up the scores
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: with Dirk. Think about Dirk's journey man, Like Dirk's journeys,
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  Speaker 1: it been so long, real grind, real grind. Dirk was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a you know, he was in the
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  Speaker 1: drill scene. He flew under the radar forever, never really
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  Speaker 1: a superstar, and then the last twenty four months it's
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  Speaker 1: just gets out of here for him, crazy going crazy
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  Speaker 1: right now, Like that's a real grind right there, that
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  Speaker 1: he grinded for real. The same said, you know, it's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: the same situation with him once he not was with
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  Speaker 1: his label no more. That's when it happened. Yep, same
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  Speaker 1: ship off as soon as he got departed from his
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  Speaker 1: separated from his label. Soon as they separated, that man
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  Speaker 1: took the fuck off. That's some real shit. How did
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  Speaker 1: you know obviously up the scores like your I mean
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  Speaker 1: that ship's going crazy, yeah, but it's turned still still moving.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how did the Dirk feature come to be? Like, like,
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  Speaker 1: you guys have had a relationship. I'm assuming we ain't
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  Speaker 1: had no like no friendship relationship type shit. But always
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  Speaker 1: knew him, you know, you knew of me. It was
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  Speaker 1: just mutual respect just overall, just because being from where
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  Speaker 1: he from, from where I'm from, you know, and like
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  Speaker 1: when I did the song, just heard him on that
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  Speaker 1: bitch and we reached out and that shit got done
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  Speaker 1: with like in like a week. Did you have to
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  Speaker 1: pay him for the future? It was just all love?
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  Speaker 1: Like wow, like we ain't that's big, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: was just all gangs. I mean now you owe in
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  Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, so he had his trade now now
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  Speaker 1: I saw he but I mean money still was invo
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  Speaker 1: of course, of course, but it's just off off of respect.
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  Speaker 1: Like when you see a nigga that big like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you can run with
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  Speaker 1: some free ship you feel me. But it's like when
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  Speaker 1: you want the business to be done and to be
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  Speaker 1: done properly, and I want a profit off of this song.
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  Speaker 1: You want to maximize the potential of the song, everyone's
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  Speaker 1: got to get situated. So it's like, man, listen, huh,
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  Speaker 1: fucked that hunt? Like yeah, him, you get what I'm saying,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: But it wouldn't know, like I didn't have to pay
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: for that verse at all, but that shit got done
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: because of the business part and just out of respect
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: like that ain't no food, Like nigga, I just give
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: you no more fucking song and you put it on
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: iTunes and you maximizing out on this ship. You're getting
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: booked for shows off this ship, and nigga just ain't
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: getting nothing. You know, you either one or two things
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's that song ain't gonna get supported or
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: you feel me. You gotta bless that nigga. You know shit,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: come you feel me? I mean he blessed you back.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I saw you. You were on the I don't know
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: how many dates of the Little Baby Dirk Toy you're on,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: but I know you're on the Phoenix right for show. Yeah,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: what what I mean? That's a big that's a big thing. Yeah,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I ain't doing every date because I'm you know, I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: got so many shows booked up. But like if if,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: if this ship would have came about before, like all
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: them shows, I could have did every single day. But
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: you're doing spot dates on the tour exactly the dates
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I'm available. I ain't want to just cancel all of
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: my fucking shows. That's still my money. Yeah, that ain't
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a toy, Like I ain't getting paid off of that.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't even want know, that's opportunities, opportunity. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: ain't a food, you know what I'm saying. I wouldn't
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: even go in no situations like that. Ask for right right,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: right right, get in front of all those fans. Prices
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: it don't even make it'll be you'll be a food.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah what I mean? That shit just sound dumb for sure,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I feel me so. But at the same time, I
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: got to female family niggat forty thousand shows, so I
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: gotta get my You're heard, so right now, if a
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: promoter hits you forty racks, that's a concert. What if
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: somebody wants you to come and do one song at
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the club now, No, no, how about this, I'm gonna
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: present it this way. They want you to do one
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: song in the club, but it's a market where you're lit,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: pop out, pop out, come and do the record at
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the DJ boost half. Okay, all right, but you know
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: what it was crazy? Is I appreciate about you? Is
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: like I know that you know that it ain't like
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that everywhere. So if it's some random ass market where
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: you're like, man, I'm trying to get in front of
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: some new people, I'm gonna do it for free, that's crazy.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna cut like to this day. Like, if
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I know I ain't turned in the market, I'm I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: not gotta be in that bit something on it for free.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: If it's a market where I'm lit at, come on,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I gotta make your of course, I can go get
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: some money from any promoter in this market. But if
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it's some ship where I ain't motherfuckers ain't really hip
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to my music, I gotta go regardless. So if it's
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: just it's just being that process up now, I just
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: got a free flight to this motherfucker, free travel, free room,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: bring my team campaign in the New City, exactly. I
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: gotta do it free. I don't think like that I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: really don't move for money, Bro, I really don't. Okay,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing you around QC a lot, seeing you
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: around P a lot. So you obviously dropped the record
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: with Baby. Shout out to Baby. I'm assuming you just
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: got out of a major situation. But with as hot
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: as you are right now, I'm assuming that everyone's trying
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to try to lure you back onto that side of
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the game. Everybody right means every label. So what's you know?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sure QC might be an option for you. You know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: is there is Are you considering going back on that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: side of the game. Man, we were gonna we feel
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: me whatever? Have we gonna? This shit gonna pop out?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I would like to just point out that there is
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: one company that you could sign with and get the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: best of both worlds. And there's a bald guy from
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Palestine named Ghazi who I think. I'm just saying. Guys,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: he are real. Guys are really solid. Let me tell
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you something about guys. We're gonna get you on Empire. Bro,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: we gotta kick it. I fucked with guys. It just doing. Man. Listen, Bro,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I just text guys the other day. Ain't give me back? Yeah,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know Gus he textas his wife back,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: but it don't me and Ghazi. You know it's crazy, bro,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I knew Gatzi for like four years. We ain't never
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: talked about no business. We had one conversation about some business.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: This was last January. We always text about just regular ship,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like what's up, Hope, all is well? You know, doing
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: your thing. It's always regular conference. We never text about
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: being I'm sure if I had to hit him about
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: some business he probably with it eventually, but you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it just be regular ship. But like one thing about guys,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that man put a lot of opportunity in Detroit mission
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: literally he did. He did. I can't, can't nobody, can't
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: nobody from that bitch take that away from him. He
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: did way more for Detroit than anybody on them as
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: far as the music saying, other than Berry Gordy, that's
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: a real ship. That's a fact. Can't nobody that's a fact.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: And he's there a lot like it ain't even but
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying the bottom line is very Gordy and guys,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: he did a lot for the Detroit music coaching period.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's that's fair. That ain't even arguing
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that we can't even that's not even the up for debate.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm not with in party and that's not up
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: for debate. I'm a real nigga. That's just the truth.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: That's some real ship man. All right, Man, look so
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: obviously rich Off Pines. We know what that's about. Uh,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: do you still sit? Is that something you still participate in? Man?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't think y'all sibling fuck
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that shitens I set water man. I was gonna say,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: because like I do feel like the tight is turning
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to where at the very least, sipping lean isn't promoted
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and glorified as much as it was as to where
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you know, three four or five years ago, if rappers
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: sip lean, you would know about it too. It back then,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: like that ship a dru That shit is addicted. I've
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: really been addicted to that ship. Like, I don't withdraw
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: from that shit. You feel me like I don't withdraw
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: it around my old lady or Feleen. That shit was embarrassed.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: You heard, like that shit a drug. I don't suggest
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: nobody's dreaming. It ain't nothing cool about it. We rap
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: about it. We rappers, We hypocrites. I know I'm a
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: hypocrite because I don't suggest niggas doing a lot of
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: shit that I talk about. But I rap about what
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I seen where I live, what I've seen others. Do
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you know, I just don't say who I seen, did
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it he heard? Like this shit be all past tense
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: or at this point, I feel like I'm speaking for
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I tell stories. I tell stories that's that's made up
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm speaking for people that's out
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: there living that ship. But one thing about me, I'm
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: always tell I'm gonna speak when I rap, i'mna make
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: songs every time I talk. And it seemed like I'm
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: glorified some uh some some negative ship. I'm always speak
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: on the consequences that come with that ship. I've been
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: in the fairst, I've been in prison. I know what
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: coind ain't know when? When? What were the charges of white?
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Why did you go to the Fedan? I just got
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: called a gun ship, you're probation or something, and just
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I'm a feeling. So it's called feeling in possition. That's crazy.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I want no no, like, no major indictment. I had
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: a one man counting dimon on nobody on my indictment.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Whn't it wasn't no shit like that? What for people
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: who don't know, man, because I've I've been around family
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: members who not off lean but off of opious, trying
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to shake that ship, going through with draws, having the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: pains in your legs and ship like that, not being
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: able to sleep? What is withdraws from me? Feel like physically,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: if you could describe it, I feel like the same
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: thing that motherfucker off any other drug go through, Like
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: every withdraws the same thing, like physical pains, just irritation,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: shit like that. Like I feel like you got a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: cold type shit you heard like that shit ain't it
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: ain't nothing cool, it ain't nothing good, it ain't nothing
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: not suggest It's just you know that shit. Ain't that
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it ain't shit that ain't not nobody even doing. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: gotta get money, you feel me and live along and
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: seek knowledge like you gotta feed their brain. You heard
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like I'm a knowledge addict. Now you read? You read
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a lot. I read a lot, extremely a lot. My
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: favorite author is Daniel Silver. I growing to like him
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: when I was in the whole, in the joint, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It's when I was reading his books. I mean to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: him write true stories and ship like that. But it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: just the way the ways books are. Everything I was reading,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I was visioning that ship. It was like it was
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: like your Netflix in the whole absolutely, And then you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I started getting into deeper books like your list, Mohammed
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Mansion to the Black Man, and I read the Malcolm
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: X's book, and I just read. I read a lot
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: of books. I read the obviously, I read I even
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: read the Bible. I read everything I can get my
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: hands on. I seek knowledge. Is that still the case?
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Like to this day used to read knowledge. You can
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: go through my YouTube history right now, You'll be You'll
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: be surprised. Bro, What's what's like the last random YouTube
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole? You dive down? Like what did it have
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: to do with let me go chick? Because sometimes you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: you get on the YouTube binge and you you end
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: up watching some ship you had no intention on ever
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: watching in your life. You're like, wait, what I get deep? Deep? Bro?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Real this shiit? Seriously? I really seek knowledge? Telling people, listen,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: tell telling people what you see, read, read, read what
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you see, Biblical g and Islamic Jesus keep going. Did
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Jesus ever say that he is God. The early history,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the honorable Elijah. Yeah, the lost tapes, Malcolm X, keep going, yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Dick Grayy and Elijah Muhammad. What Malcolm X did not
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: tell you? The final signs of the Jaw's arrival are here,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: plastic and cosmetic surgery. I don't know if that was
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: my that's my wife, that's my wife. That's my wife
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: for real. I got it when your wife started watching
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: it and it was like making the tourism. This is
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: probably not him. I mean, my old lady. We rock
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: like that, Like I don't feel I just had de
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: smoke up here de smoking. I don't go through my wife.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: She don't go through my ship. If she on Instagram,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: she log her come. She on YouTube, she don't go
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: through my messages. She don't go through my car. We
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: really gangsters, like we really rock. Like your wife is
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: not the type of person that if you fall asleep,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: she don't do that. She had boss for real, that's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: beautiful boss. She don't ask on my phone, she don't
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: look at my messages like, she don't do none of
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that ship like you know you know that, Yeah, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: think that that's how most I mean that's how relationship
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: should be, because if you are on that, then why
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: are you together? Like if you can't trust somebody, because
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: guess what, if there is some function going on in
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the relationship, it's gonna come to light eventually. Every relationship
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: is about trust, whether it's a friendship of marriage relationship.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Are you married? Yeah, man, it's crazy because D Smoke
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was up here before you got to be married. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: got children. We had how many kids you got? I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: got too that stuff? Man, I got two kids too.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not married because just you know, because we had children.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like when I say we got to that's
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: what God want. I worked f I'm a slave. I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: was talking to D Smoke. He had a line on
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: his new album and it said my wife drove me
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to sanity, not to he said, my wife drove me
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to sanity, not even drove him to sanity, saying that's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a fact. You're married, bro, Yeah, so you you understand? Yeah?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Do you know how we will be moving? If we
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: ain't had that backbone, we wouldn't be able to do
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: what we're doing. I wasn't married when I when I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: when I caught none of my cases, I wasn't married
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: none of that ship you heard, like, none of that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: ship like yo, Like your wife, every real man need
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a queen. You gotta have that. You gotta have that backbone.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: They're saying it like you gotta have that. That's that's balance,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: and that's that sanity, and that's that. That's that you know,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: your your accountability, that's your accountability partner for real, like
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: your wife, going hold your accountable. Ain't nobody gonna tell
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the truth like a woman or a child. Women and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: kids they tell the truth. Ain't nothing better than a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: woman's intuition. Every time my wife told me your nigga
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was a fuck nigga, he was a fuck nigg You know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. That's the same shit with my girl. My
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: girl will tell me some ship and then I won't listen,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and she's always right. I'm like, man should the truth. Yes,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it's crazy, just like my mama. It's crazy how that is. Though. Ever,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: my mama told me she ain't like one of my homies.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: She something happened and then I ain't like them no
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: more either. My mama ain't never been wrong about no
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: nigga I ever brought around her. My old lady ain't
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: never been wrong about not one nigga that I ever
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: brought around her at all. Is it harder to keep
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: your team and your circle smaller? The bigger you get,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it make it easier for me? You wanna know why? Why?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Because nigga's always seem like with money and like a
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: position or when people be on the outlooking in, like
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you know with us, we we we just living in
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: our life. I feel like people praise what you got
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: mo than what you do, and they drive motherfuckers to
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: always just show their true colors and they cut theyself off.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: You know, money revealed money or was there the whole
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: time exactly right? Money revealed hate? They always do mone
• 29:02
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  Speaker 1: Have you know, I mean, you know, there's obviously something
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that's to be said about getting more hate from where
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you come from than anywhere else. Is that something that
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: happens with you and is it something you even that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: bother you at at this point, honestly, like when't it
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: kind of like Detroit? I haven't experienced that, but you know,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm so it's like that, But I feel like I
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: haven't experienced that because I'm just I'm the same. I'm
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: just me. I'll be me. You know, I'm the same
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: person I am no matter where I'm at, Like I know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: it usually go like that. I can say this. It
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: been times where motherfuckers who I felt like was supposed
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to support me didn't support me, and to everybody else did.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But when they come to like music and like my
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: folks who rock my music, the same love I get
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: everywhere else, I get it in the church, just like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the same hate I get everywhere, you know what I mean,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: unless niggas got but everybody got secret hate. Of course,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: it's like that. Shit is every man. It's it's fuck
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: shit everywhere. It's hatred everywhere. It's real niggas everywhere, it's jealousy.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: It's all the same all around. You know what I'm saying.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I don't even like to say I get little. I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: don't even like using that terminology. You know, love, we'll
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: love love don't live where we you heard like my
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: kids love me? Yep, Mama, love me, My family love me.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I can't say nobody else love me. I don't have
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: no proof of that. Love is an accent. That's some
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: real shit. That's true. That's a nice way of putting it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: You know, building your relationship with someone like P from QC.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: What you know he's somebody who has an executive is
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you know, done some special things him and coach K
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: What is some game or maybe some advice that you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: have gotten from your friendship with with with P, he
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a real nigga, like they won't like But when me
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and P first linked up, we ain't discussed signing or
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you know, me being or it wasn't never about that nigga.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Let me straight in my eyes like bro, you a hustler.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: You remind me and me like I like how you move.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I want to show you how to turn this ship
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: up and do this shit next level. I want to
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: show you the business. I think you should. You need
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to really learn the business. It wasn't never about him
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: but sign a contract putting O. Ain't putting no contract
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: in my face or email it to Shanelle. It wasn't
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: never about none of that. It was off top like
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: just a mutual respect, like and that was an honor
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to for a nigga like that to look at me
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like a hustle. I look at bro like he's an
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: ultimate hustler, you heard. So for somebody to see what
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I was doing on such a small level compared to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: what he doing and it meant something, you know, and
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: accounted for something. Now only did it show me I'm
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: doing the right thing and I can keep going, but
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: it showed me how to conduct myself as a boss.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Like when you get to a certain level, you it
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with reaching back when you see other
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: niggas just like you, you her, or if you see
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: yourself and another nigga and you gotta show people the business.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: You heard like I done got the impression from other
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: people that as long as you know the business, you
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: all right. But he changed my mentality on that. He
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: showed me them. No, the right thing to do is
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: to teach people to business, then do business with them.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Don't do business with him and then teaching the business,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: teaching the business, then do business with them. So I
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: kick him, my young nigga, hundo it. He's from Grand Rappers,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you heard like he he with ice records. We don't
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: even have a contract because I'm teaching him the business.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And then that's then he got to decide if he
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: gonna if we're gonna rock, if he gonna sign a contract.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: That's not the because I know how this typically work.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But I won't be able to fool him. I don't
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: want if I can't, and you don't want if you
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: want to sleep at night, I want to say. It
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: ain't even just that. I gotta I gotta look my
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: son and the eye and tell him I stood tall
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: in every situation. I was solid with everybody I ever encountered.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I ain't fuck nobody ever. I ain't misgoding nobody, I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: ain't mistreating nobody. Everybody I ever took took heed of
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: what they said. They didn't mistreat me or Misgod me,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: you heard so I wanted to give out that same energy,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and it's just it's just gonna be solid. Like if
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: every artist I got with me intelligent on the business
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: side and morally and they seeking the same knowledge outside
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: of music, I see, that's it. Ain't that's a powerful team.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: That's a strong fist. Now. I feel like, you know
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: QC's doing that. I feel like, God, he's doing that.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: You know, definitely doing that and see they didn't got it,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: don't talk about it, is just doing that with it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: He don't talk about it. It's just in his ass
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and their actions. Them two niggas that move with actions.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Ain't you heard them? Niggas ain't doing interviews talking about
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: what they do for artists. Their actions speaks for none
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: of that ship. Their actions speak one hundred percent. Who
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: else on the album? I got on there, I got
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a baby face ray on there Rio to Youngo, g
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: on there, Free Rio rumor and I got rumor man
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: me and Rumor got a song. So your cousin manages Rumor.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Adrian Switch. The legends and ship rumors
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: are alien manud dude, so motherfucking he's so fire, gonna
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: be big. You gotta take off his ski masks. I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: ain't never seen niggas ever. I'm like, bro, when you bitch,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: do you know this ship? Like two tone probably at
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: this Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, Like what is going on? Bro? Like, man, room,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be big. Room, We're gonna be bigger than
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of that nigga gonna be huge.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: He's huge, man, you and Babyface Ray. I mean obviously
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Babyface raised somebody coming out the city who's the same
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: on fire. Would you guys ever do like a collab
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: like EP? We'd be talking about that shit every time
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: we see each other. Never get it done. We don't
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: record it fast songs and came up with a name
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and everything, like we're gonna call it bit Purple Gang,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Like that'd be crazy. Never it's just his ship. It
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: seemed like our career started moving at the exact same
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: time for some reason, so it's just been kind of
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: making it a little difficult. But we're definitely doing the tape.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Like who else gang outside of Detroit? Would you want
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to do a tape with? I feel like man Pluto
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: got good chemistry and it's like as far as musically
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: when you say future, yeah, definitely, Like we make so hard,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: So I don't know why. I'd love to hear you
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and Mazzi do some ship Mazie I fuck with Mazie
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: long that. Yeah, I feel like you, you and Mazzi
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: would be a special that'd be a special little EP.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Why is it speed talk? Real nigga shit? Yeah, he
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: moved like one too, And you know what's crazy. He's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: kind of the first rapper that started that kick the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Cup shit. You know, he started that shiit twenty seventeen.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: He was like the first guy to be like, man,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I can't do this shit. No more could kick the Cup.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I think we need to really make that shit a movement, bro,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: really do. And you know what's crazy is if there's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of niggas bro that don't that really respectfully,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that don't that don't really be sipping like that, you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: and they keep it a hunted though, Like if a
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: nigga asked, nigga, s I don't really be drinking like that.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: These niggas just getting niggas getting money and getting smart
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: like that's that's good. That's a good thing. A rap
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: game one like that in the nineties, niggas getting money,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: getting dumb. They just getting money and still getting fucked
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: by the label and still doing dumb shit. Fuck is
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: smart enough, Yeah, niggas going to the gym all that shit.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Like niggas is just moving like bosses. It's a lot
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of n like outside of like if you Let, if
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: You Let Society, Instagram telor rappers of some of the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: dumbest niggas on Earth. But realistically, it's a lot of
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: smart niggas, bro well, because the people who are on it,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the people who make headlines on Instagram at least at
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: least you know, I always say there was like an
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: era and rap twenty seventeen twenty eighteen where the dumb
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: goofy antics was dictating who label signed. We would see
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: people that were getting signed, I mean just for doing dumb,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: dumb mass dumb ass shit on the GRAM and they
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: were putting music out with like like actual dude. It was.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: That was probably one of the roughest erarors in music
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: because I'd be like, We'd have people come up on
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the show and I'd be sitting across from some guy
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: nodding out or who's got like no for so all
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: longer nigga fake and this shit, this shit still like
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: wwft no, it still is. It still is. But it
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: was bad. It was bad, bro, I mean, you know
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: we think of that. That was like the six '
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: nine era. There was like guys, like there was just
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of functionhit. That was like when Little MP
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: was at his peak, just doing shit for the Internet.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: It was like, yo, if you're known for your antics
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and not your music first. Then you don't got longevity.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Longevity is not in your cards, it is in your heart.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: You know, Man, I don't do with an I ain't
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: with none of that shit. When you were locked up, man,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: like you know, how hard was it to just deal
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: with the time? Like you said, you read a lot
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: right what like? Like mentally you know, I know some
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: people who come out of jail and that shit breaks them.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I know it takes their spirit. I mean, I know
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: this the answer that you would expect because I know
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: how animated like rap shit is and how fake gangst
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and fake tough niggas be. But this really from the heart.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: It didn't fuck with me, bro, because it made me better.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I appreciated it. That was the best thing ever happened
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to me other than my children. Kind of put you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: on it made you think about like you said, you
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: didn't know you had a lot to lose before you
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: you said, that was the best thing that ever happened
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to me. So my time wasn't hard because I ain't.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: You can make your time hard. For one, I only
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: had two years. That ain't no time two. It's just
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: like it's up to you or what you deal with.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Like one of my homegirls text me the other day,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I'll show you the message. It's true, Star, tell all
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the truth. She said she been hurt. Were just having
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a conversation like, well, I've been through a lot, I've
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: been hurt a lot. And I told her I could
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: have got hurt a lot. She said, how could you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: What you mean you could have got hurt a lot?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I told her because the shit that was supposed to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: hurt me, I ain't let it. It's about what you
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: let hurt you. So if you doing hard time, that's
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: so that means you doing hard time. You know what
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, you ain't gotta do hard time. That's
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: for nobody. And nigga. I don't seen niggas in that
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: bitch for thirty years. And that bitch like they got
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: four months because they mastered. They mastered theyself up here,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: master they mentality, they master they thoughts you mentioned being
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in the hole, is that was that like a little
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: harder to deal with those times? That's when I felt
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: like I was in jail twenty three hours a day. Yeah,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: before and then I was in there in the wintertime,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: so we was in the orange jumpsuit, swee socks and sandals,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: so I ain't go outside, and so it was zero below.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Was in Ohio, so it was twenty four hours a day.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Fuck the whole. I did three months the first time
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that I went back and did three months. The second time.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: It was in the summertime, so I was going out.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I was doing twenty three hours. But I didn't feel
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: like I was in jail until I went to the whole.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I think I had a cell phone in that bitch.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm doing everything, fucking you feel me? So
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: it was just it didn't feel like jail. What what what?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: What did you do in jail to result you going
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: to the hole? I called the cell phone contraband yeah,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: so holy serious shot. How does it someone get a
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: cell phone it in jail? Man? I can't do that. Brother.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Is it the guards? I'm not saying how do you
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: get it? I mean in general, I mean there's someone
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: brings it in while visiting. Guards bring it in. They
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: got their system. Man, it's a lot of brothers still
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: locked up. You know what I'm saying. They I don't know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: because I feel like an underrated relationship, right because I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: mean I've been to jail, not for as long as you,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: but all my cousins hard prison time. Right. The relationship
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: between the CEOs and the prisoners, it's either really bad
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: or good or it's like there your lifeline to the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: outsider they could be, or it's really like you you
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: know these people, right. I always wonder I always wonder
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: if ways of inmates ever rubbed off on CEOs. You
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. They watch US politic. They watch
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and then they gotta go home, and they gotta go home.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: They got a whole life, they got a world. I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: wonder if they ever dealt with they personal life and
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: use you know, some of the knowledg is that we
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: that they watched US politics. I wonder if they ever
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: felt wrong in the situation and they reason it was
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the same reason like we felt wrong. Like if they
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: ever had a school a homies, like now you can't
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: do this this, Like if any anything, yeah, you get
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, anything good or bad rubbs off on
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: him in the real world. I was wondering that. I
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: don't wonder if that because they're still people at the
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: end of it's a job with benefits. They not police,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: they not. That's why people get on ross because you
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: see them like that. Don't be ship. He wasn't a cop,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't know, man, I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: think uh boss. I think Ross is uh. I was
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: just with Bernard. We just had Bernard here Sunday and
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, Ross, and just like how
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: much of a inspiration he's got to be to everybody
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: if you're really paying attention, you're from the Trench at
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know. And I don't
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: know Ross personally. I don't know what he personally did
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: in his life. So I can't speak for his character,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But you can speak of
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: an action his business. Yeah, business wise, he a boss.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: That's that. He made it in the music industry, you
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And he is from where he's
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: from from day come. That bitch ain't no playground that
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: mister Trench. You feel me? What about you say you
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: have more money than you've ever had? Are you interested?
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: What kind of investments are you trying to make or
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: what kind of things you're trying to do with your
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: money to try to make sure if RAP goes away tomorrow,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you know, it's still first and foremost. I'm paying my
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: taxes smart, That's the first thing. That's that's how I'm
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: going to keep my money because the irs on your
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: head absolutely so paying you don't want to get west,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: They sniped. I bought a home and my name with
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: my credit and I'm taking what I invest in slowly because,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: like I said, I had money prior, and I had
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: a restaurant, bought a car wash, and I had a
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: dispencery at the age of twenty four. You know what
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, but but nothing came out of it
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: because I was in it for the wrong reason. Not
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: only is I rush into those businesses. I got those
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: businesses just to say I had those businesses. It's a
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: flex you're I got my own car, a honey houses,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and them niggas fucked up because with business come responsibilities.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Responsibilities drain your pocket. Yeah, especially if you're not in
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a position to or you have you don't have the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: bandwidth of the team to deal with one hundred fucking houses.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: So there's for any nigga that's getting some money, be
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: strategic about what you invest in. Definitely be strategic. Yeah nine,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I know the cannonbusiness business, I'm not in a month probation.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I'm extremely interested in that and doing it the right way.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Now in Michigan it's recreational, right almost not there yet
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: though almost so it's still medical. It's still medical. Oh okay, okay, okay,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: they passed it, but you know it takes some time. Well,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I know, cookies is there now, I mean it's it's booming.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: It seems like the weed shit in Michigan booming. And
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: we've been had the spencers before this shit was even
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: you know, all the way all like, I feel like
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: we was one of the first states to have the spencer.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Spencer's literally, like I remember twenty fourteen seeing the spencers
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that wasn't getting shut down and shit, you know, it
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was just certain stipulations. But I know they did pass
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: it to be recreational. But as far as I'm concerned, like,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: its shit's still not getting treated. I mean even like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it's crazy to think, like we were in New York
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the week after it became like okay, and it just
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: felt weird because you know, you go to New York
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: before and you're having weed in New York. It's fucking tough. Fuck. Yeah,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: having a gun in New York is even worse. Right,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: but like you know, now everyone is you could just
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: smoke anywhere in New York and the cops literally don't
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: give a fuck. You'd be on the fucking corner on
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the sidewalkers, blowing down the backwood in front of the NYPD.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: And it's that's hard. It's insane. I ain't seeing niggas
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: smoke in front of the folks right right right out here.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: They do they out here l A don't care. Man,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I got a gang of expencials. I think it's almost
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: too much. It's very like it's real competitive. Yeah, what
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: happens is, you know, people come from out of town
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and they think sh it is sweet, and they come
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to l A and they think they're gonna get on
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: with some weed. And then it's like, bro, this is
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: still We're still in the number two biggest market in
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the country. Still so much politics involved out here, especially
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: on the street level. And furthermore, it is the most
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: competitive legal marijuana business in the world. So that's the real, Like,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that's really the stereotype for l A. Yeah, I'm out there,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I gonna get my packs. I'm gonna get some packs
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: shipping back to the like bro, like you know, make
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: sure you're getting you know you motherfuckers come out here
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and also get robbed thinking they're coming out here. Niggas
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: gott this bitch sweet at all, not at all, man
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: like a motherfucker sweet niggas la just like a land
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the opportunity. It's opportunity out here. But this ship political.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Like I know, real street niggas down here, niggas ain't
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of niggas don't just like that, like fucker
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: coming down this bitch and just you just off top.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Just feel like you heard you just gonna move how
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: you move all that, and that's that's how it should
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: be anywhere. I feel like that about Detroit. I don't
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: want nobody and not that I own it. I'm not,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: you know, And I ain't saying like on the street
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: level like on no you know, no no that type
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: of shit, just period, Just just how I feel like this.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: This is somebody home. You still gotta treat it like
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: like you said, somebody. You're not gonna go to someone's
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: house that you've never met before and stuff, put your
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: feet on the couch. Absolutely you should treat that. That's
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: a perfect analogy. Yeah, if you go to someone else's city, man,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: be respectful, move the right way, move the right way.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I think that was kind of what happened with that,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: you know, with with the no flyfe zone ship with
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: trick trick essentially right now. So we all felt like that,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: like is just the leader of that, the face of
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: he was the bigger artists. Yeah time, you know what
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So and he coined that phrase. You know, yeah, man,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: who in your opinion? Give me your top five excluding
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: yourself MC's out of Detroit ever, top five mcs out
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: of Detroit, Blade Ice, would Streetlord one, Chetu boy, elite,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: tough tone, man, I got I got a lot bro
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: of course. Eminem. Okay, you're putting Eminem into five. Eminem
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: number one, he's top five in the world. I mean,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but I do know some people in
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Detroit are like, I've never listened to Eminem in my life.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: We love Eminem music. It's just we feel a certain
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: way about Eminem to a sense, like niggas love Eminem,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Like ain't nobody ever tried Eminem? Or he's still living Detroit,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: that's his home, Like it's all we just never met him.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Is that why you feel a certain way like maybe
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: he's not touching the payment like you know you'd like
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: him to. Maybe. I mean, it ain't about what I
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: would like him and do his own, man, but inspirational
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to us, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm accessible
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: to your niggas that's coming up in Detroit. I'm gonna say,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I make myself accessible to them. I don't overstand, you know,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I don't just I'm not friendly. I don't just give
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: myself away. But I still make myself even if I
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: tell a your nigga, bro, you are that's all to
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: be taken to keep on your niggas, going to keep
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: them out streets. I mean, to be fair, I don't
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: think Eminem is accessible to anyone, but come on, bro,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: we gotta be doing great, right. No, no, no, you're right,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: You're right. That's why I thought it was dope to
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: see obviously Sean worked with you, but to see Sean
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: do that cipher at the end of his album, I
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: think it was it was it ten artists on there.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: How many artists on that ten I don't know. I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: you know, I never listened to that song once, but
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I just at the end of the day, I think
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: that was like a cool thing. That was some gangs
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: shit that was Did you feel any type of way
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: him leaving you off that? No, Me and Sean got
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: plenty of record We got a relationship. Y'all got records
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: in a video together. And he didn't put the hottest
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: niggas from Detroit on the song. He put who he
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, extend his arm to, like, you
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: gotta think the niggas that's not on the song. It's
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: niggas he already done, extended his arm to and showed
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a little too popped out. Folk made a call for
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: a nigga, did a video with a nigga did his song?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Sean keeps shit solid, bro, he do? He keeps shit
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: gangst I was slightly mad about that because I know
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: how big I am in my city. So yeah, like
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not a nigga that feel what's that
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: word don't? I can't even think of the word, but entitled, entitled.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I don't feel entitle. I just know where I stand
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: when my music ain't doing good. I know when it
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: ain't doing good. I knew when my ship want to turn.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I never felt entitled, I never, but I know what
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I know. My value. But just when we had a
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: conversation about it, I understood exactly what he meant. And
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: that's just what it was, Like, I'm trying to get
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: everybody a chance. Yeah, I feel like he had kind
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: of all walks of like the Detroit scene on there.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Royce was on there, you know, obviously Detroit touched au.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Uh Royce, Royce fired to I mean, one of the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: greatest in the world. Worst. Voyce is one of the
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: greatest everage. That's why it's hard to name top five
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: from Detroit. When you got niggas like Royce, fine, now
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: you got live boys, Kd's he made West Stretch money,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: like stretch money, that nigga, really lyrical body James Like,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: it's too many body James is a beast exactly, Bro,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: it's too many people. Bro. Yeah, Yo, Would you ever
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: you know, because obviously, uh, would you ever work on
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: some like production like you know, because we think of Detroit,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: we think of also j Diller and Slum Village and
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and and and a real serious boom back backpack scene.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Guys like Guilty Simpson back in the day, that's what
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: it was. Black milk all that ship, right, Would you
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: ever funck with any of that production just to try
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: to bring the two worlds together. So I would absolutely
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I would. It was definitely did you come up listening
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: to like any J. Diller or any of that ship.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Never heard not one J Diller song. I genuinely thought
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: he was a producer. I mean no, I mean even
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: he is. I mean he has, but he also rapped
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: this jd you know, you know, I never I'm not
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: gonna figure. I never listened what about Slum Village like
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: it was on TV a lot, so I had to listen.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't listen to I'm not That's not my style.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't listen to backpack music, right. I know Royce
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: can rap, because you know Royce do well for yourself
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: in the rap community, and he a person you gonna
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: hear his ship regardless. I followed he posts it and
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the way the nigga rap, I just be amazed, like
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: he's one of them one That's not my style of music.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I don't listen to that, but I do like how
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: you're because you know, I've talked to artists who are
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the corner. Right now. We
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: just don't fuck with that ship. But at least you
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: know you're You're like, yo, I don't. I'm not. It's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: not my cup of tea, But I mean I respect it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I'm still a rapper. I know good lyrics. When I
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: hear that ship, I just don't be knowing what half
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: that ship. I don't for me. Sometimes it don't it don't.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: They may feel we not talking about nothing, right, And
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I've seen that side of music say that we not
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: talking about nothing. We literally feel like they not talking
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: about nothing because it be a bunch of lyrics and
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: it's just to us. It don't lyrical spiritual miracle. It
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: just don't like what is that? What is it? A
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: mind to? All? Right? What did you just say? What? What?
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: What am I learning from that? But the people listen
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to them, they would decipher them them verse and be
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like Nigga, he just said, you heard like Nigga that
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Nigga said, you gotta listen to this ship, just like
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: somebody that listened to our music would decipher for them
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like Nigga. He just said this like he had the
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: heart he did he did, you know, and they might
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: understand it, you feel me. So I've grown to not
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: down play nobody something just because it ain't your cup
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: of tea exactly, or I might not understand it at
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: the time. You just gotta decipher it. Hey, listen, gun
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: your head. If I had to ask you the question,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: who's your favorite rapper of all time? Your favorite, like
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: your personal favorite? To say, you're you're going back in
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the hole for two years and you can only take
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: one guy's fucking CDs with you, who would it be?
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Jigg Jay? Hey, man, that's a good choice for so.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's a lot of people choice,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: but hey man, it's true. Hey what's your favorite jay
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Z album? Blueprint? The first one? And the Dynasty? Hey,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the Dynasty soon you're under standing is one of them?
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: One that man stories just that ship is remarkable. Yeah,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: man's remarkable. I think Hove is like Dan to shout
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: out to Wayne Wayne goat. He's he's he's he's up there.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: And Wayne is a goat. No, he's up there. He's
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: a goat for sure. He's up there, up there, bro, No,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: he's up there, he's up there. When you said Wayne
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: is the goat, I said, no, he's up he's up there. Yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I thought you said Wayne is the goat, and I
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he's up there. He's one of them names.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: You know, you could throw Wayne Hove Nas damn. You
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: know all those people are in the same thinking naves
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: of the whole story backwards man, rewind, that's another level.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: It's another level level of like funk. That's a level
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: that still ain't been I don't think anything. Yeah, I'm
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: doing that ship, bro a man doing that ship. You're
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: right right, do it backwards. I'm doing that ship. You know,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it on my own twenty twenty one street verse.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: What will it take for Ice war Vessel to go
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: back to signing to a major label or is that
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: even possible? Anything possible when it makes sense, Absolutely anything
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: in the world that shit makes sense. I need full
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: creative control, and I need opportunity for my artists. My
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: artists gotta be in a play. My manager gotta get
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: hired at the label. Hey, you gotta call them shots.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: And I need a contingency plan. I need to be
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: motherfucker A and R when I'm done with this shit. Hey,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Y's smart and I know music. No reallyty Oh, it's
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: just gotta make sense. Anything that you do has got
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: to make sense moving forward. And now you're in a
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: position where if it don't all right, cool, I'm doing me.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I don't fuck I'm already rich, so what it is,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I don't If I'll never be able to get a play,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: it's all as well. I can live through my niggas.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: How dope is it to half? You've had some records
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: that were dope in the club, like regionally or like
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: certain cities, Like you know, I'm from Phoenix, so there's
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of Detroit dope boys in Phoenix. So Moonwalking,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: the Money Phone, these are all records that I would
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: always play in the club in like twenty fifteen sixteen
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: right Walk was my first big song. No, I mean,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: technically money Fine was, but that was just big, uh
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: you know. In my reason, Moonwalk was the first song
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: where I was in a whole nother city doing some
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: whole other shit and was watching people wrap this song
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: word for word and they ain't taking out one pitch
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: with me because the bigger than me. Uh well up,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the score is like a record that again it's like
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: what they know is me though. Yeah, but I saw,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I saw. I think Dirk brought you out at college
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: or something fucking me up. That fucked me up. That
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: shit was crazy. I don't even know it was on
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: your ig. I don't know what city that was that
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: was in It was in Uh, it was in Illinois.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I just forgot what city. It was in Chicago. That's wild, right,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Wake me up. That shit fucked me up? What is
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: that was? That? Was that a moment for you when
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you realize absolutely, wow, it's working. First moment that I
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: actually realized that this ship is working for real. First
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: moment I had a long time. Well, I'm like, this
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: shit really work. That was a first moment. Yeah, because
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: I saw that video, I was like, oh, this is
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: what was That first moment motivated me on the whole
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: another level. Future, How did your friendship with Future begin? Like?
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: How did you guys get you know, get to be
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: close and obviously you know how is Future? I feel
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: like we don't he don't do interviews. We just kind
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: of hear what we hear about him and love his music.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: My little brother GT introduced me. Now it's been a
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: little real, like you know what I'm saying, this is
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: regularly ain't shit? Like I feel like you're in a
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: position right now where I could see Drake just randomly
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: remixing a icewear vessels so without warning, like remix other
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: scull and out telling me that she's gonna be too
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Like any idea if he's like tapped in with your
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: ship at all, I ain't gonna lie. I don't have
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: no idea that like, I don't know. I don't even know.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Would you do a remix to up
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: the scull? Like is that something you even considering or
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: is that something uncnsidering? It's come. It's coming, for sure,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: it's come. Any anybody locked down said it's coming. It's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be one of the ones. It's gonna be one
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: of the ones. It's gonna be one of the one
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: ask for something. Well, listen, uh, rich off pints to
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: off points to it's out. Yeah, by the time this drops,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: it'll be out now, rich Off pints too out Now
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: y'all tap in with me. Go look at all the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: videos subscribing my YouTube channel. I swear vezo. I got
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: a movie out too, called Price of Love. It's on
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Amazon Prime and so on. Did you produce the movie?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: He started secutive produced it. I wrote them movie and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I'm starring in it. Wow, Well, I wrote I wrote them.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't physically write the script. Though, but somebody wrote
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the movie though, payding food fucking Ma Smith. Shout at
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Kama Smith. What was the inspiration behind doing that? Man?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Besides obviously, I mean there's some legendary underground routs and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Jill and I wrote that in the hole on some
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: milk curtains. Wow, because they threw my rap book away,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: so I thought I was finessing, like I ain't gonna
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: throw these milk cards away. Wow. They to the rap
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: book away, threw that bitch away. That's rough. Well listen, man,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: go get the project, and you want to shout out
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: your artist. Shout out to eighty one Hundo, Shout to
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Vino Midwest, Millie CEO, Chucky sb R, Peasy Rich, Tom
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Butter sbr narco uh, shout the piggy She from Cleveland,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: she super turned up. Shout out to Sadity she fron Detroit.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: She is she is Shortly she turned to man, Shout
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: out to my manager ship beast, you know, cousin Adrian
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: m J. And then south to everybody here it is man,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: I swear vesso boom