Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Jon Decker, WOR White House correspondent Interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: There is so much to talk about right now in
- 0:03Speaker 1: the Donald Trump world. Apparently, that deal he had, that
- 0:09Speaker 1: energy deal he had, and he said, I've got a
- 0:13Speaker 1: big announcement. We've reached a deal between Ukraine and Russia
- 0:18Speaker 1: over not hitting each other's oil supplies or energy supplies. Well,
- 0:23Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like that happened. No. Because... Minutes after
- 0:28Speaker 1: he said it, the Russians hit an energy area in
- 0:32Speaker 1: Ukraine and took it out. And Zelensky had a great line.
- 0:38Speaker 1: He said, apparently Putin doesn't read truth social.
- 0:44Speaker 2: And then look at Saudi Arabia. The Houthis have hit.
- 0:47Speaker 2: that main airport, three days in a row. They have
- 0:51Speaker 2: no defense system up. And I can't wait to find
- 0:55Speaker 2: out how. I've labeled this the pretend I'm on the
- 0:58Speaker 2: ballot tour of President Donald Trump to get the Republicans
- 1:02Speaker 2: over the top.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Here's the amazing thing about that tour. John Decker has
- 1:07Speaker 1: hit a new echelon in his career. As a matter
- 1:09Speaker 1: of fact, I think we have to call him Mr.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Decker now when we introduce him. Of course, he's the
- 1:15Speaker 1: WOR White House and Washington correspondent and host of the podcast,
- 1:18Speaker 1: The White House Briefing Room with John Decker. It can
- 1:21Speaker 1: be found in the iHeartRadio app. But, John, you got
- 1:25Speaker 1: an exclusive with the president coming up?
- 1:28Speaker 3: Yes, it will be in Alaska. I'm traveling on Air
- 1:31Speaker 3: Force One to Alaska in just a few hours. It's
- 1:35Speaker 3: a long trip out there. And then the president will
- 1:38Speaker 3: do a campaign event for Senator Dan Sullivan, a campaign
- 1:42Speaker 3: rally there.
- 1:43Speaker 1: In Wasilla, Alaska.
- 1:45Speaker 3: And right before he hits the stage, right before he
- 1:47Speaker 3: does that campaign rally, he's going to do an exclusive
- 1:50Speaker 3: television interview with me. So glad I was able to
- 1:54Speaker 3: secure that. And I'm looking forward to that much later today.
- 1:58Speaker 1: That's wonderful. You know, I don't want to get too
- 2:02Speaker 1: inside baseball on this, but how do you go about
- 2:05Speaker 1: securing that interview?
- 2:07Speaker 3: Well, you make a pitch. It's like being a salesman.
- 2:10Speaker 3: And you make that sales pitch to the people that
- 2:15Speaker 3: would make that decision on behalf of the president. And
- 2:18Speaker 3: I'm really good at selling myself and selling the idea
- 2:23Speaker 3: of why this interview is important for the president. I'll
- 2:26Speaker 3: give you essentially what the sales pitch was. So I
- 2:30Speaker 3: work for a company that owns the most powerful television
- 2:36Speaker 3: station in Alaska. It's a powerhouse. Fifty percent of Alaskans
- 2:40Speaker 3: watch that station. And what better place to do an
- 2:44Speaker 3: interview with me representing that station? And so I think
- 2:49Speaker 3: that really had an impact on their decision. And I
- 2:53Speaker 3: think that is ultimately why the president said, yeah, I'll
- 2:57Speaker 3: sit down with John Decker. Sure.
- 2:58Speaker 1: That's a tremendous sales pitch, by the way. But he also,
- 3:01Speaker 1: we've said this before, Curtis, if you've noticed that the
- 3:05Speaker 1: president likes John Decker. Oh, no doubt. He keeps asking,
- 3:07Speaker 1: keeps saying, John, points to him and says, go ahead,
- 3:10Speaker 1: ask a question. You know what John's answer to that
- 3:13Speaker 1: is always? Go ahead, John, you can say it.
- 3:17Speaker 3: No, tell me what you're getting at.
- 3:18Speaker 1: He says, what's not to like?
- 3:20Speaker 2: What's not to like, exactly. If the moment presents itself,
- 3:27Speaker 2: because I'm sure you're going to be talking about Saudi
- 3:30Speaker 2: Arabia and what would Trump do as the Houthis have
- 3:33Speaker 2: hit the major airport three days in a row. It
- 3:36Speaker 2: doesn't seem the Saudis have an ability to defend themselves
- 3:39Speaker 2: from the incoming cruise missiles.
- 3:43Speaker 1: We had on... 9-11, the families asked only one thing.
- 3:47Speaker 2: They didn't talk about Zoran Mandami. They said, please investigate
- 3:53Speaker 2: the Saudi family's involvement in the attack on 9-11. They
- 3:58Speaker 2: turned to J.D.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Vance.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Please bring it back to the president. Remember, the president
- 4:02Speaker 2: said that he would. I wonder if he's had the
- 4:05Speaker 2: time to do that.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. You know, I have to also
- 4:10Speaker 3: explain to you just something. You raise a really good question,
- 4:14Speaker 3: a really good topic. But part of my pitch was this,
- 4:18Speaker 3: and it was really important to me to do this.
- 4:20Speaker 3: You know, you build a relationship with the White House team.
- 4:23Speaker 3: You build a relationship with the White House. I said,
- 4:25Speaker 3: we're in Alaska. The reason why you're going to Alaska
- 4:28Speaker 3: is because of the Senate race. This Senate race in
- 4:31Speaker 3: Alaska with Senator Dan Sullivan running for a third term
- 4:34Speaker 3: could determine who controls the Senate. It's pretty unbelievable to
- 4:37Speaker 3: think about that. And I said to them, my interview
- 4:40Speaker 3: with the president is focusing exclusively on that race. So
- 4:45Speaker 3: I want to ask those types of questions, Curtis, and
- 4:48Speaker 3: I will get an opportunity to ask those questions, but
- 4:50Speaker 3: not in this upcoming interview.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Yeah, understood. Tell me what the disconnect is here, because
- 4:56Speaker 1: I don't think the president comes out and makes an
- 4:59Speaker 1: announcement about an energy deal between Ukraine and Russia without
- 5:04Speaker 1: really believing it's true. It would be foolish to, because
- 5:07Speaker 1: you end up looking bad. But almost immediately, Russia attacked
- 5:12Speaker 1: Ukraine's energy supplies. And I was saying before you came on,
- 5:19Speaker 1: that Zelensky had a great line when he said, apparently
- 5:22Speaker 1: Putin doesn't read truth social. So what is going on?
- 5:26Speaker 1: Is there no energy deal? And why would the president
- 5:29Speaker 1: say something like that when there's no deal?
- 5:31Speaker 3: Well, I think the president is, we've talked about this before, Larry.
- 5:35Speaker 3: He is the eternal optimist. And he has a conversation
- 5:40Speaker 3: with Putin, which he did last week. He spoke about
- 5:43Speaker 3: maybe the contours of a deal. Then he gets on
- 5:46Speaker 3: the line and speaks with Zelensky. speaks about what he
- 5:50Speaker 3: spoke with with President Putin. And Zelensky says, yeah, that
- 5:54Speaker 3: sounds good to me. I'd be for that. And the president,
- 5:57Speaker 3: I'm just getting in his head, probably thinks we got
- 5:59Speaker 3: a deal. But the problem is the president says this often,
- 6:02Speaker 3: Larry and Curtis, it takes two to tango. And Putin
- 6:06Speaker 3: just doesn't want to end the war. Putin just doesn't
- 6:09Speaker 3: want to do a deal, even at this rate, this
- 6:12Speaker 3: level in which you're just stopping all attacks on each
- 6:15Speaker 3: country's energy sectors. And that's the reason why this war continues.
- 6:20Speaker 3: You know, February of next year will mark the fifth
- 6:23Speaker 3: year that this war has been going on.
- 6:26Speaker 2: John Decker, I call this President Donald Trump's pretend I'm
- 6:30Speaker 2: on the ballot tour as he stumps for Republican candidates.
- 6:35Speaker 2: How overall is that concept working with the, you know,
- 6:39Speaker 2: the ingrained MAGA Republicans that he's trying to get out
- 6:44Speaker 2: to help win the midterms?
- 6:47Speaker 1: Well, we'll see.
- 6:48Speaker 3: I mean, we won't know the answer to that, obviously,
- 6:50Speaker 3: until all the votes are counted after November the 3rd. But,
- 6:54Speaker 3: you know, I've traveled with the president this past Saturday.
- 6:57Speaker 3: I was on Air Force One, went down to Tennessee,
- 7:00Speaker 3: and crowds love him. You know, it's true. The MAGA
- 7:05Speaker 3: base has not left the president. That is the bottom line.
- 7:08Speaker 3: The problem is independents have left the president in terms
- 7:13Speaker 3: of what I see in the polling, and independents typically
- 7:16Speaker 3: determine who wins elections. And right now, those independents are
- 7:21Speaker 3: dissatisfied with President Trump and his policies that he's pursued,
- 7:26Speaker 3: high gas prices. So although the president's trying to get
- 7:29Speaker 3: the energy level up among Republicans to get them out
- 7:34Speaker 3: to vote for the midterm elections, the key, I think,
- 7:38Speaker 3: in this entire midterm election will be how do independents vote?
- 7:42Speaker 3: Do they come out to vote? And do they vote
- 7:44Speaker 3: against the Republican candidate?
- 7:46Speaker 1: I spoke a couple of days ago with a Democratic
- 7:50Speaker 1: strategist who's now in Pennsylvania. He's working on a couple
- 7:53Speaker 1: of the congressional races in Pennsylvania and then the one
- 7:57Speaker 1: big one in New Jersey as well. And I talked
- 8:00Speaker 1: about exactly what you're talking about now about Donald Trump
- 8:03Speaker 1: getting out in the campaign trail. And I said, well, listen,
- 8:06Speaker 1: if this midterm is all about Donald Trump, doesn't that
- 8:10Speaker 1: help the Democrats as much as the Republicans? And he said,
- 8:14Speaker 1: this is a Democrat saying this. He is a generational
- 8:18Speaker 1: talent when it comes to getting out the vote. And
- 8:21Speaker 1: I thought that was really kind of stunning. But I
- 8:25Speaker 1: imagine he's only talking about getting out the vote for
- 8:28Speaker 1: the Republicans. He gets out the vote for the Democrats,
- 8:31Speaker 1: I would think, too.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's right. You know, the president wants this
- 8:36Speaker 3: midterm to be about him, but Democrats want this to
- 8:39Speaker 3: be about him as well. And we already know what
- 8:42Speaker 3: happened in the 2018 midterm election. That was the president's
- 8:46Speaker 3: first term. Republicans did not do well. Republicans lost control
- 8:51Speaker 3: of both the House and the Senate. And so could
- 8:55Speaker 3: history repeat itself, you know, in the 2026 midterm elections?
- 8:59Speaker 3: I don't know. But, you know, just based upon polling
- 9:03Speaker 3: right now, it certainly doesn't look good for a number
- 9:05Speaker 3: of Republicans who are running, trying to hold seats in
- 9:09Speaker 3: the U.S. Senate. And that's something that at the very
- 9:12Speaker 3: beginning of the cycle, I did not foresee. I said
- 9:15Speaker 3: there's no way that Democrats retake control of the Senate.
- 9:19Speaker 3: But now it's a real possibility.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Well, to the rescue, as he promised, Elon Musk, with
- 9:24Speaker 2: close to $ 400 million, he's delivered two-thirds of it. The
- 9:29Speaker 2: additional third will be delivered to save the Senate for
- 9:33Speaker 2: the Republicans. How do they intend on using that money?
- 9:37Speaker 2: That's a lot of money, $ 400 million to spread into about,
- 9:42Speaker 2: I would say, eight contested races.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough.
- 9:47Speaker 3: It's tough to go against that, you know, in terms
- 9:49Speaker 3: of matching that on the Democratic side. That's a ton
- 9:52Speaker 3: of money that's being spent. And I don't know if
- 9:55Speaker 3: you've seen, the number out there about how little that
- 10:02Speaker 3: is in terms of Elon Musk's net worth. It's a
- 10:05Speaker 3: huge amount of money, but it means nothing to him.
- 10:07Speaker 3: It's like you and I losing a penny. That's how
- 10:10Speaker 3: amazing it is in terms of how wealthy Elon Musk is.
- 10:14Speaker 3: But how is that money being used? It's going to
- 10:16Speaker 3: be used to just get out the vote. to put
- 10:19Speaker 3: campaign commercials on the air in all of these competitive
- 10:23Speaker 3: battleground states. Texas in particular, that is one of the
- 10:26Speaker 3: most expensive states to run statewide in the entire country.
- 10:31Speaker 3: And a lot of that money, quite frankly, is being
- 10:34Speaker 3: spent on Texas, trying to help out Ken Paxton, the
- 10:37Speaker 3: attorney general there, who's hoping to keep that seat in
- 10:41Speaker 3: Republican hands. It's now held by Senator John Cornyn. But
- 10:45Speaker 3: we've seen polls which indicate that Ken Paxton is trailing
- 10:49Speaker 3: James Tallarico. So that's where a lot of that money
- 10:52Speaker 3: is going to be spent.
- 10:53Speaker 1: I know you cover the White House, but this is
- 10:56Speaker 1: a question about the U.S. Senate. If the Democrats take control,
- 10:59Speaker 1: is there any chance that Chuck Schumer stays on as leader?
- 11:03Speaker 3: That's a very good question. I think, you know, I
- 11:07Speaker 3: think we're putting the cart before the horse. You know,
- 11:09Speaker 3: I just think let's let's see what happens there. You know,
- 11:13Speaker 3: he's going to if that's a big if. But if
- 11:16Speaker 3: Democrats retake control of the U.S. Senate, who's going to
- 11:19Speaker 3: be the first person in front of a television camera
- 11:22Speaker 3: crowing about how he's responsible? It's going to be Senator
- 11:26Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, right? Do you have any doubt about that?
- 11:29Speaker 2: No.
- 11:30Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens. I think that first Democrats
- 11:34Speaker 3: have to cross that threshold to win back the Senate,
- 11:38Speaker 3: and then they'll confront, depending upon who those new Democratic
- 11:42Speaker 3: members are, their allegiance to Chuck Schumer. Then we'll see
- 11:46Speaker 3: whether or not he remains the leader of the Senate
- 11:49Speaker 3: and the leader of the Democrats for the next two years.
- 11:52Speaker 2: I do appreciate it, John Decker, who won't have time
- 11:54Speaker 2: to go fishing in Alaska with the president while you're
- 11:57Speaker 2: there interviewing him exclusively. We do appreciate all of your
- 12:01Speaker 2: knowledge and input on those questions we asked you. Have
- 12:05Speaker 2: a safe trip. Oh, wow, he fell into the abyss.
- 12:09Speaker 2: He's already fishing out there. He baited the hook.
- 12:12Speaker 1: He's got a plane to catch. He's salmon fishing.