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#2559 - Sam Morril · The Joe Rogan Experience

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Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast
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Speaker 1: by night.
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Speaker 2: All day. Sammy boy. Sammy boy.
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Speaker 1: What's up, dude?
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Speaker 2: Good to see you, brother.
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Speaker 1: What's happening? It's been a while. It's good to see you, Joe.
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Speaker 2: It's been a couple years, like we were saying. Yeah, man.
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Speaker 2: It might. Was the club even open? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely.
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Speaker 1: Definitely.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So it's been like a year and a half. Something
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Speaker 2: like that.
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Speaker 1: Something like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to be here.
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Speaker 2: You rolling in on the road, just constantly out there?
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Speaker 1: I was in Europe for two and a half weeks
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Speaker 1: doing gigs, and then they were like, oh, we want
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Speaker 1: to drop your special second half of September. I was like, fuck,
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Speaker 1: all right. So I just had to stay on the road. So, yeah.
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Speaker 2: What is it like in Europe being American? Do they
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Speaker 2: look at you with a side eye?
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Speaker 1: It was weirder last year because I was single last year.
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Speaker 1: I was with my friend who was single, and he
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Speaker 1: thought he was, like, cool going up to girls in Berlin.
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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm from America, and they're like, fuck you.
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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I went open with it. I
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Speaker 1: was like, say you're from Winnipeg or something.
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Speaker 2: North America.
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Speaker 1: North America, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Don't be specific.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, if you want to get laid, say North America. But, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. Everyone responds differently, but I will
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Speaker 1: say I was in Copenhagen at the end, and they're selling, like,
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Speaker 1: you're seeing the merch on the street, and it's, like,
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Speaker 1: little Trump... holding like a rattle. He's a baby. And
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Speaker 1: I said, I want Greenland. They're selling that in the street. So, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they don't like us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ron White was in Switzerland. He said there was
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Speaker 2: like an open hostility.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. It's a bummer. But the crowds are good.
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Speaker 1: The crowds are great. Yeah, I mean, it was like,
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Speaker 1: I was in like, I went everywhere from like Lisbon,
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Speaker 1: just all Athens, fucking Croatia. I was in Zagreb. It's amazing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: How good is their English over there? Great.
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Speaker 1: They love comedy. It's like the Balkans, they like, people
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Speaker 1: who are just in wars love to laugh. If you
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Speaker 1: were in a civil war recently, they'll fucking laugh. And then, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they were great. And yeah, I've been to Sweden. I've
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Speaker 1: done that before, but they were great.
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Speaker 2: I did Sweden once. Sweden is, it's interesting. Like Europe
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Speaker 2: is interesting. They laugh really hard, then they stop. And
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Speaker 2: they laugh really hard, then they stop. You don't get like,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Dude, Milan is like, Like, I'll do three pedo jokes,
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Speaker 1: and then they all applaud. I'm like, what is this,
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Speaker 1: Carson in the 80s? Like, what the hell am I on?
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Milan is like that. And they laugh hard
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Speaker 1: to get energy. Like, you have to adjust your expectations.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't sustain. Culturally, it's different. Like, I went
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Speaker 2: over there with Hinchcliffe, and he was like, I can't
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Speaker 2: get him. I go, you're getting laughs. And he goes, yeah,
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Speaker 2: but then it stops. It's a different thing. And I go,
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Speaker 2: you're in a different culture. They probably have to process
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Speaker 2: the language, first of all. It's weird.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, yeah, Stockholm... The women are like the
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Speaker 1: hottest women I've ever seen in my life.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all those Nordic women. The Vikings did well.
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Speaker 1: They did, yeah. We don't talk about the good of pillaging,
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Speaker 1: but there were some positives.
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Speaker 2: Giant, handsome men and beautiful women. It works.
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Speaker 1: It just works.
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Speaker 2: It's terrible initially.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then a couple hundred years later, you're like,
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Speaker 1: not bad.
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Speaker 2: Not bad and peaceful somehow or another. One of the
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Speaker 2: most peaceful places, which is weird.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: If you're neutral, it's easy to be peaceful.
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Speaker 2: When was the last time you heard about Iceland going
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Speaker 2: and fucking people up? Yeah. But you go over there,
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Speaker 2: those are like the biggest, strongest fucking people in the world.
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Speaker 2: They're like all those strong men guys.
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Speaker 1: Finland held off the Nazis.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Finland was like, fuck you, fuck you. Or they held
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Speaker 1: off Stalin too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: They were like, Hitler was watching Stalin like, oh, the
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Speaker 1: Russians aren't that tough. Because Stalin couldn't take down Finland.
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Speaker 2: Also, I only think they've been a country for like
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Speaker 2: 200 years. Yeah. Like how long has Finland been around?
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Speaker 2: I think it was like.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: 1812 or some shit. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, they're tough motherfuckers over there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The dudes are huge. The women are gorgeous. I was
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Speaker 1: starting fights with my girlfriend because I was mad at
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Speaker 1: how hot the women were. I was just angry at
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Speaker 1: her for existing. I was like, I'm fucking. I was like, look,
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Speaker 1: if you want to go on a two and a
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Speaker 1: half day break, that's fine.
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Speaker 2: I'll do it.
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Speaker 1: No, the women were so hot that it's.
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Speaker 2: It's just weird that these warlike cultures settled down and
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Speaker 2: became some of the most like amicable, peaceful, like just
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Speaker 2: even the way they like distribute wealth. Yeah. Like they
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Speaker 2: have these incredible health care programs and education and it's
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Speaker 2: like you were the Vikings. Yeah. How did this happen?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Sweden just must be nice to just
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Speaker 1: be neutral when shit's going down, too.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, except for the banks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 2: Banks aren't very neutral.
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Speaker 1: That's true.
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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the reasons why they're allowed
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Speaker 2: to be neutral. True.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that helps you be neutral.
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Speaker 2: Give me the loot!
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Speaker 1: But, yeah, but then Poland and Finland, like, they're on guard.
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Speaker 1: They're like, in case Russia does some shit, like, let's
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Speaker 1: stay fucking ready.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild that you have to actually think about
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Speaker 2: that in 2026.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That Russia might actually invade Poland?
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I think just a missile just hit a
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Speaker 1: train going from Warsaw to Kiev, I think.
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Speaker 2: Great.
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Speaker 4: Fun.
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Speaker 1: Good times.
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Speaker 2: Good times. Good times.
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Speaker 1: But the crowds are great. That's the important thing. The
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Speaker 1: crowds are very good. They were very welcoming.
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Speaker 2: When you develop a special, do you mostly do it
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Speaker 2: in the city until you get your hour down and
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Speaker 2: then go on the road? Or do you just like?
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Speaker 2: Constantly go on the road? How do you do it?
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Speaker 1: A little bit of both. I'm on the road now
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Speaker 1: with maybe like a new 25, 30-ish right now, and
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Speaker 1: I'll cheat and do a little from the special. But, like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's a miserable– I never enjoy when a special comes out.
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Speaker 1: I'm miserable.
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Speaker 2: It's scary.
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Speaker 1: I can't enjoy it. The second it tapes, I'm just, like,
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Speaker 1: sad for, like, five months because I'm at the cellar.
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Speaker 1: I'm following some young gun who's crushing and excellent and
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Speaker 1: has their killer 15, and I'm just getting buried. And
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Speaker 1: I'm doing new shit that I get off stage. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I should kill myself. I should quit comedy. And then
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Speaker 1: slowly it gets to a point where it's respectable and
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Speaker 1: you can tape again at some point.
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Speaker 2: You know what's really good for after post-special? Like I
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Speaker 2: know a lot of guys are doing this at our club.
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Speaker 2: It's just doing that Bottom of the Barrel show, Brian
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Speaker 2: Simpson show.
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Speaker 1: We have one of those in New York. Will Silventos
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Speaker 1: at the Comedy Cellar.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful. Yeah. Any kind of show like that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: There used to be one.
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Speaker 1: Although I hate when comics do old shit on it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 1: I get really annoyed. I'm like, I saw that on Fallon.
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Speaker 1: I saw that bit. I've seen that bit before.
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Speaker 2: The wheel, there was one that they used to do
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Speaker 2: at the Creek, which was a wheel. So the audience
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Speaker 2: would write stuff down, and you would put it on
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Speaker 2: a wheel, and you'd spin the wheel, and then it
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Speaker 2: would land on something.
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Speaker 1: Like a suggestion.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 2: That was a good idea. And then they have stand-up
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Speaker 2: on the spot in LA, but that one you'd yell.
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Speaker 2: People just yell shit out, and that gets a little chaotic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot, but it's fun. You build stuff
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Speaker 1: and the bar is lowered because they know it's off
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Speaker 1: the cuff. But that's the problem. You think you riffed
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Speaker 1: a brilliant thing and then you try it with the
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Speaker 1: other stuff and you're like, it's not that good.
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Speaker 2: That's like crowd work, right?
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Speaker 1: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Like crowd work seems amazing in the moment because people
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Speaker 2: are like, he just put that up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Then you try to convert that into an actual bit
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Speaker 2: and they're like, that's not. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: My where you're from chunk isn't hitting at all. What
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Speaker 1: the hell?
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Speaker 2: What about that lesbian bar? Do you know about it, folks? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. No, it's a tough experience, but then also, like,
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Speaker 1: the crowds are sophisticated enough that they know the deal now.
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Speaker 1: They know that you're building towards something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Especially good comedy crowds that go to
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Speaker 2: see comedy all the time. They know exactly what's going on.
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Speaker 2: You're working on new shit.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, some people have new shit nights where they
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Speaker 2: just do new shit. That's great, too. But then you're
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Speaker 2: going to go and see some half-baked comedy. I'd rather
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Speaker 2: just Just throw it in.
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Speaker 1: And you have to put it against the old stuff.
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Speaker 1: You have to. I mean, I remember Louis would always
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Speaker 1: say he's opening on his closer from the last special.
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Speaker 1: And you're just like, that's a great idea until you
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Speaker 1: have to follow your closer. But, man, are you measuring
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Speaker 1: the new shit.
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Speaker 2: It's the only way to make. I mean, his strategy
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Speaker 2: of doing that is brilliant. Because it's really the only
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Speaker 2: way to get that other stuff up to the same speed. Totally. Otherwise,
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Speaker 2: you'll get complacent and you'll keep doing a bit the
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Speaker 2: same way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. And also, like. you just have to
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Speaker 1: just keep doing sets. Cause you, you start to hate
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Speaker 1: yourself if you're telling the same joke and you're not
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Speaker 1: adding a tag or you're not, the self hatred keeps
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Speaker 1: bubbling up. I just did like seven hours this week.
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Speaker 1: I did one in LA and then I did six
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Speaker 1: in San Diego. Cause I'm like, I just have to
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Speaker 1: keep talking until I hate myself to make this joke better.
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Speaker 1: That's literally the only way I can do it. So
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Speaker 1: I'll do a smaller room and I'll just keep adding
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Speaker 1: shows until I can, until I'm like, okay, I went
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Speaker 1: from like here to here. You just, I was talking
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Speaker 1: to Dan Soder about this the other day. You go
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Speaker 1: from like 22 to then 25 minutes. Then you're down
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Speaker 1: to 17. Then you're up to 20. Then you're down
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Speaker 1: to 12. You just keep, but you know.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of fun though that we all have the
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Speaker 2: same process. It's fun. It's all kind of, we at
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Speaker 2: least share it with each other. Cause like, you know,
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm up to like 52 minutes.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, back to 43. Right. I cut
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Speaker 2: this out. I don't like this anymore. And that's just,
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Speaker 2: that one just phased out. Or I got a new
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Speaker 2: bit that took the place of that. I like it better.
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Speaker 2: And it doesn't make sense to bring that back. I
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Speaker 2: have bits that are like orphans. Like I have a
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Speaker 2: folder called orphans.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And it's just bits that never made it anywhere. I
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Speaker 2: liked them at one point in time.
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Speaker 1: That'd be a good name for an album, like a
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Speaker 1: B-sides album, just your orphans. I kind of would actually
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Speaker 1: like to hear that. It was like when you hear
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Speaker 1: a comic just, I'll see Fahim will do that sometimes.
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Speaker 1: We'll just post a bit that he's never going to use.
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Speaker 1: But it's like, oh, but there's something here. It's like
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Speaker 1: a throwaways, you know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But I kind of like that.
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Speaker 2: Are you a guy who writes on paper or do
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Speaker 2: you write on a notebook?
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Speaker 1: Dude, I fucking do it. I do all that. Hold on. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do all the little notes.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're like a Mark Norman type character.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do all kinds of notes and I just, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I have to handwrite it.
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Speaker 5: Really?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'll remember it.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember.
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Speaker 1: I type it too for like a backlog, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't. I have to write everything down. But I
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Speaker 1: won't remember.
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Speaker 2: It is a weird thing that somehow or another writing
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Speaker 2: things down with your hand is, it syncs up with
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Speaker 2: your brain better.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand why. It doesn't make sense, but it's real.
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Speaker 1: Maybe because it's, like, and this is a guess. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. But maybe because when you were, like, learning
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Speaker 1: to write, you just, you're, like, reading along maybe.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: In your brain as like a six-year-old or something. Maybe.
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Speaker 1: Because I wasn't typing at six.
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Speaker 2: I think it's because it takes longer to write.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.
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Speaker 2: I think there's something about it gets imprinted in your
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Speaker 2: brain better because you're physically writing the characters down with
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Speaker 2: your hand, first of all, so that you have to
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Speaker 2: go through all those steps in your mind, N, A, B, T,
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Speaker 2: you know, you have to put them all down. And
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Speaker 2: then once you've done that, then it takes longer to
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Speaker 2: write it than it does to think about it. So
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Speaker 2: it's just like, it's just more burned in.
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Speaker 1: Totally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, I think also you just look like a douchebag
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Speaker 1: if you're reading off your phone on stage too much.
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Speaker 1: So you have to just have a notepad. You look
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Speaker 1: like you actually put more work and thought into it.
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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. If you're just reading your new jokes off
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Speaker 2: a phone, people get upset at you. But if you're
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Speaker 2: reading them off a pad, like, oh, he's an artist.
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Speaker 1: And there's also like an old school thing where you're
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Speaker 1: just like, I don't know. Like, it just feels like
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Speaker 1: this type of pad is right. I don't know why.
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Speaker 2: It just.
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Speaker 1: I like these types of pads.
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Speaker 2: Like legal pads?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the yellow ones even better, but I like,
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Speaker 1: there's something about it. You rip it out.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It feels like an actual job.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're working.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Are you a sober writer or do you get fucked
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Speaker 2: up when you write?
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Speaker 1: I like to write sober, but yeah, I think you
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Speaker 1: get your stories drunk and you write sober.
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 1: So I'll go out and I like going on adventures.
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Speaker 1: I romanticize drunken nights. Even in this special, it's like
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Speaker 1: I have so many dumb drunken night stories still because
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Speaker 1: it's like, Sometimes I'm, like, feeling blocked. I'm like, I
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Speaker 1: should go out on a fucking adventure. And sometimes nothing happens,
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Speaker 1: but sometimes you're like, that's a bit. That's something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You just let the night... I like stuff where you're
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Speaker 1: at the mercy of the night and you don't really
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Speaker 1: have control. Like, I love that movie After Hours by
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Speaker 1: Scorsese where he's just, like, basically in chaos for a
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Speaker 1: whole night. I romanticized... Who.
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Speaker 2: Was in that movie?
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Speaker 1: Griffin Dunn.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I saw that. It's great.
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Speaker 1: It's just, like, an all-night... It's like The Odyssey, but
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Speaker 1: a guy in... Tribeca in the 80s, stuck all night,
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Speaker 1: and it's fucking hilarious. It's a comedy. It's really funny.
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Speaker 1: But the idea that you're stuck out all night, and
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I still like an adventure every once.
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Speaker 2: In a while. You don't have kids yet. I don't.
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Speaker 1: That's why I can get away with it, probably.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a bad dad if you're doing that with kids.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, once you have kids, you're like, I don't want
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Speaker 2: to take this because I could die.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't do drugs.
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Speaker 1: It's really mostly just alcohol.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's good. And every now and then someone will
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Speaker 2: give you a drink, and it's not really a drink.
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Speaker 2: You got to be careful.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'll go myself. I'm not taking strangers' drinks.
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Speaker 1: That sounds like a bad idea.
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Speaker 2: I've done that before.
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Speaker 5: Really?
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Speaker 2: I've done that, but not in a long time. But
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Speaker 2: I've done that in the past. I'm like, this is
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Speaker 2: probably a bad idea.
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Speaker 1: Did you eat something in it?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 4: No, nothing.
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Speaker 1: I got roofied in college from that.
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Speaker 2: Did you?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was clearly a frat guy meant for a girl.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'll take it. And he was
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Speaker 1: just like, what the fuck? And I drank it. And
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Speaker 1: that's all I remember.
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Speaker 2: How'd you wake up?
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Speaker 1: I was in the dorm, but I was like, what the...
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Speaker 1: And another guy I was with got roofied, too, because
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Speaker 1: he left me a voicemail that made no fucking sense.
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Speaker 2: That is.
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Speaker 1: But we saved some woman, I think.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully.
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Speaker 2: That's some truly evil shit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're fucking.
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Speaker 2: That's some truly, truly.
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Speaker 1: It's as bad as it gets.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. That's... And it's horrific how prevalent it is. Like,
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Speaker 2: how many girls will tell you they've been drugged?
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Speaker 1: Dude, it was a thing, too. When I was in school,
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Speaker 1: it was a thing. They would say, don't go to
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Speaker 1: that frat house. Stay roofy. Like, you would just say
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Speaker 1: it casually, which I sure as fuck hope times have
13:38
Speaker 1: changed that that's not a thing anymore. But back then,
13:40
Speaker 1: that was just a thing you said. Don't go to Pike.
13:42
Speaker 1: Stay roofy or whatever.
13:43
Speaker 2: So scary, dude.
13:44
Speaker 1: Crazy.
13:46
Speaker 2: Just so weird that someone was willing to do that.
13:49
Speaker 1: I don't like Greek life. I don't like that culture.
13:53
Speaker 1: The idea that you're bonding with someone because they're torturing you.
13:57
Speaker 1: It never did it for me. I'm not against hazing.
13:59
Speaker 1: In comedy, I like that people trash me. I love that.
14:02
Speaker 2: That's a different kind of hazing, though. You don't have
14:04
Speaker 2: to shit in a diaper and fucking drink five gallons
14:07
Speaker 2: of water in three minutes.
14:09
Speaker 1: How does that prove that we're friends, that I shit
14:10
Speaker 1: in a diaper for you?
14:12
Speaker 2: Wisconsin frat leader is arrested after 30 pledges found in
14:16
Speaker 2: filthy basement, injured and covered in condiments.
14:19
Speaker 6: And other things they said, but condiments was all they
14:22
Speaker 6: really talked about in the news.
14:23
Speaker 1: Condiments?
14:24
Speaker 4: Like other sauces or, you know, I don't know.
14:27
Speaker 1: Prove you're my brother.
14:29
Speaker 4: And it was very hot down there, they said, too.
14:31
Speaker 2: What? Just for what? So you can hang out with
14:33
Speaker 2: these assholes? That's the thing.
14:35
Speaker 1: I never looked at them like I want to hang
14:37
Speaker 1: out with these. I remember leaving. I thought they were
14:40
Speaker 1: going to beat the shit out of me, too.
14:42
Speaker 2: Like, this is how they lived? They were just stuck?
14:44
Speaker 4: They were being hazed, trying to get in the frat
14:47
Speaker 4: or something, some incident.
14:49
Speaker 2: I mean, for what?
14:50
Speaker 4: Go to cool parties?
14:51
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some good ones out there, but it's
14:53
Speaker 1: not for me.
14:55
Speaker 2: I just, I mean, maybe if I got in, I
14:57
Speaker 2: would get it. I never tried.
14:59
Speaker 4: No.
15:00
Speaker 2: My college days were a complete waste of time. I
15:03
Speaker 2: went to college just so I wouldn't have to tell
15:06
Speaker 2: people I wasn't going to college.
15:07
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's, at that time, that's how you
15:11
Speaker 1: had to do it. But I think now it's, a
15:13
Speaker 1: lot of people are self-educated and You learn stuff and
15:16
Speaker 1: it's such a waste of money. It's like, you know.
15:18
Speaker 2: Well, you can, if you are disciplined enough, you can
15:21
Speaker 2: get a full university education online.
15:23
Speaker 1: One of the most successful people I know, the schools
15:27
Speaker 1: were too slow for him and he just did all
15:30
Speaker 1: the courses he would have taken at like four speed
15:32
Speaker 1: and dropped out in one semester and he became insanely
15:35
Speaker 1: rich on his own. He was like, I got this,
15:38
Speaker 1: which is unbelievable.
15:39
Speaker 2: What does he do?
15:40
Speaker 1: He's a tech guy, but he just made a shitload
15:42
Speaker 1: of money.
15:43
Speaker 2: Thank God for vaccines. If it wasn't for autism, where
15:46
Speaker 2: would that guy be?
15:47
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a fucking gifted guy. There's this
15:53
Speaker 1: one part of your brain that just.
15:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think some of it's genetic, but
15:58
Speaker 2: I think there are some people where something happens, and
16:02
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, they're just way smarter. You've
16:04
Speaker 2: heard of, like, injury savants? Like, people who get hit
16:07
Speaker 2: in the head, and all of a sudden, they can
16:08
Speaker 2: speak Chinese? Yeah. Have you ever heard of that?
16:11
Speaker 1: Or they think it's Chinese. It's not Chinese.
16:15
Speaker 2: But there are some people, there's some people that have
16:17
Speaker 2: gotten hit in the head and all of a sudden
16:18
Speaker 2: they can do complex math.
16:20
Speaker 1: Or they get hit in the head and they're just changed.
16:22
Speaker 1: I knew a guy like that where he was just,
16:24
Speaker 1: I only knew him after the hit and they were like,
16:26
Speaker 1: he used to be a different dude.
16:28
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a hundred percent real. I've seen that. I've
16:30
Speaker 2: seen that with many people.
16:31
Speaker 1: Damn.
16:32
Speaker 2: Many people. Foreign accent syndrome. Oh, it's accent. Rare medical
16:36
Speaker 2: condition where a person suddenly speaks with a pattern that
16:39
Speaker 2: sounds like a foreign accent, even though they have never
16:41
Speaker 2: visited or lived in that region. I think that's just
16:45
Speaker 2: crazy people. I don't think that's like an injury. But
16:49
Speaker 2: there's injuries. The mysterious condition that changes people's accents. I
16:53
Speaker 2: love how it's a condition. Maybe someone's just fucking completely
16:57
Speaker 2: insane and just pretending.
17:02
Speaker 3: 28th of April, I'll never forget that day. I was
17:04
Speaker 3: just singing as I do and all of a sudden
17:06
Speaker 3: all these voices and sounds were coming out of my
17:09
Speaker 3: mouth that's not my own. And I'm like, hang on
17:11
Speaker 3: a second, am I dreaming about this?
17:16
Speaker 5: Angie has now been diagnosed with a condition. Nine years ago,
17:20
Speaker 5: 60 Minutes met some of them, including British woman Sarah Colwell,
17:25
Speaker 5: whose accent changed following a severe migraine.
17:28
Speaker 1: She said, no, you sound like you can work at
17:30
Speaker 1: a Chinese restaurant.
17:33
Speaker 2: Oh, no. This lady's crazy.
17:37
Speaker 1: She's pulling a fast one. Yeah, 100%. Does any white
17:39
Speaker 1: guys who just start talking black from that, you think?
17:42
Speaker 2: Sure, 100%.
17:43
Speaker 1: Must be. That's from a head injury.
17:44
Speaker 2: Just one head injury with a rap music on. Yeah.
17:47
Speaker 2: I mean, you can talk normal, lady. You're choosing to
17:51
Speaker 2: do that. There's no fucking way. That comes from speaking
17:56
Speaker 2: a different language.
17:58
Speaker 1: They're like, whoa. She's like, hold on. I got one
18:00
Speaker 1: of these.
18:00
Speaker 2: What, Jamie?
18:01
Speaker 6: What do you think her accent's going to be as
18:02
Speaker 6: a new lady here?
18:03
Speaker 2: German.
18:04
Speaker 5: Eastern European accent after starting new epilepsy medication.
18:08
Speaker 2: New epilepsy. Yes, okay.
18:10
Speaker 1: I speak a foreign accent.
18:12
Speaker 2: So it makes sense, but for goodness sake, what is
18:15
Speaker 2: fun accent syndrome?
18:16
Speaker 5: 28-year-old Angie is the latest.
18:19
Speaker 1: What is it? You have something.
18:22
Speaker 2: What happened to her?
18:23
Speaker 5: She developed her Irish accent 10 days after having her
18:26
Speaker 5: tonsils removed.
18:28
Speaker 1: Whether this is the cause, we'll never know.
18:30
Speaker 2: We'll never know. It's a standard procedure.
18:33
Speaker 3: Who has located my voice to a different country without
18:36
Speaker 3: a visa?
18:37
Speaker 2: Well, that didn't sound Irish. She sounded normal.
18:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's temporary.
18:42
Speaker 2: Maybe they're faking it.
18:42
Speaker 1: You know, some people also like they lose feeling in
18:45
Speaker 1: their face. Maybe it's just like a half a day
18:47
Speaker 1: that happens.
18:48
Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense because the whole reason why
18:50
Speaker 2: people talk with that accent is because they're used to
18:51
Speaker 2: speaking in Chinese. Chinese has completely different sounds to the words,
18:57
Speaker 2: and it's difficult to transition to English words.
19:00
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19:03
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20:24
Speaker 2: There's Foxkin, you know?
20:25
Speaker 1: Is that a real thing?
20:26
Speaker 2: Oh, I follow a ton of people.
20:28
Speaker 1: Wait, I thought it was a joke. Fox?
20:29
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:30
Speaker 1: You think you're an animal, a fox?
20:31
Speaker 2: Oh, well, they're furries. You know, there's a lot of
20:34
Speaker 2: furries that take it, you know, there's like casual furries.
20:36
Speaker 1: But not all day. I thought that was like a.
20:38
Speaker 2: Every now and then.
20:39
Speaker 1: But that's like a sex thing, I thought.
20:40
Speaker 2: No, no, no. Some for some. Listen, don't put these
20:43
Speaker 2: people in a basket. Don't put baby in a corner.
20:47
Speaker 2: They can do whatever they want.
20:48
Speaker 1: You see some, I saw a guy in a chain
20:50
Speaker 1: in New York, like on a leash being walked.
20:52
Speaker 2: Yeah. By another guy?
20:54
Speaker 6: Yeah.
20:54
Speaker 2: Yeah.
20:55
Speaker 1: Being walked on a leash.
20:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's fucking. They're having fun. Two guys having fun.
21:00
Speaker 2: Can't get pregnant. You know what? No problems.
21:02
Speaker 5: Yeah.
21:03
Speaker 2: Have at it, fellas.
21:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
21:04
Speaker 2: Enjoy yourselves.
21:05
Speaker 1: Sure.
21:06
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have any problem with that. That
21:08
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me at all. But people that pretend they're animals,
21:11
Speaker 2: there's something about that.
21:11
Speaker 4: This guy got tied up to the Hollywood sign last week.
21:14
Speaker 2: Good for him.
21:14
Speaker 4: By a dominatrix.
21:15
Speaker 2: Probably came like a rocket. In the middle of the day.
21:19
Speaker 2: He's probably super excited about it. Why? I had this
21:22
Speaker 2: lady on my podcast back in the Disney. And she
21:25
Speaker 2: was a humiliatrix. And her whole thing was she would
21:29
Speaker 2: take these wealthy CEO type guys that are in control,
21:33
Speaker 2: constantly in control. And she would humiliate them. And they
21:38
Speaker 2: would pay her. And one of the things that they
21:40
Speaker 2: would do is they would pay her to blackmail them.
21:44
Speaker 2: So she would make them do things like suck a
21:46
Speaker 2: dick on camera and then send her the video. I'm
21:49
Speaker 2: not bullshitting. And then she would have that footage. They
21:52
Speaker 2: got off on the fact that she had them. She
21:55
Speaker 2: was very professional. She would never do anything with it.
21:57
Speaker 2: But she pretended that she would. And this was the game.
22:01
Speaker 2: They wanted to feel like- Yeah.
22:03
Speaker 1: What a great gig. You can ask for a raise
22:05
Speaker 1: whenever you want. What are they going to fucking do?
22:07
Speaker 2: You've got a film of them sucking a dick. So
22:10
Speaker 2: she would say, I want a film of you sucking
22:12
Speaker 2: a dick. Wow. And that I'm going to take that film.
22:14
Speaker 2: And this is pre-AI, too. This was a long time.
22:17
Speaker 2: So it was a real guy sucked a real guy's dick. Damn.
22:20
Speaker 2: Because he wanted this lady to have this information over him.
22:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's just you've gone too far in
22:27
Speaker 1: the kink thing. It's like you've gone.
22:28
Speaker 2: Have you though?
22:30
Speaker 1: Listen. I wouldn't want. That's too far, man.
22:33
Speaker 2: I think if you're one of those guys that is
22:36
Speaker 2: a CEO of some major business and you're working 16
22:39
Speaker 2: hours a day, you're probably losing your fucking mind.
22:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess you're trying to come in the
22:45
Speaker 1: most efficient manner possible. You're like, I need seven hours
22:48
Speaker 1: of sleep. I'm working 16 hours.
22:49
Speaker 2: Well, I would think that maybe that kind of power
22:53
Speaker 2: and control over a large corporation is probably so overwhelming
22:57
Speaker 2: you need a release valve. Of course. And the release
22:59
Speaker 2: valve is someone having ultimate control over you.
23:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, those guys are usually subs.
23:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:05
Speaker 1: Because they're used to control.
23:07
Speaker 2: Dominatrix is always.
23:09
Speaker 1: Anytime I see a powerful man, I'm like, I bet
23:11
Speaker 1: you like to get pegged.
23:12
Speaker 2: Like get your nuts kicked. I bet. See those guys?
23:15
Speaker 2: They just lay down with their hands tied behind their
23:17
Speaker 2: back and girls kick them in the nuts.
23:18
Speaker 1: That scares me for like a permanent injury.
23:20
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
23:21
Speaker 1: You could permanently have like a nut in you, right?
23:24
Speaker 2: Well, you could blow your nut out. I know two
23:26
Speaker 2: dudes who've had their nuts blown out personally.
23:30
Speaker 1: What does that entail?
23:31
Speaker 2: It entails usually a shin to the nuts, and it
23:35
Speaker 2: makes your nuts explode, makes one of your nuts explode,
23:38
Speaker 2: and they have to remove it. They remove your nut.
23:42
Speaker 2: That's fucking wild. He was going to do like some
23:45
Speaker 2: light sparring with this guy. He said, ah, we're just
23:48
Speaker 2: going to go light. I don't need my cup. So
23:51
Speaker 2: he goes out there and like a minute into the round,
23:53
Speaker 2: he gets kicked in the nuts and his nut explodes.
23:56
Speaker 1: That is fucking awful.
23:57
Speaker 2: Loses a nut. He's a one nut champ now.
24:02
Speaker 5: God.
24:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:02
Speaker 1: You don't get testicular cancer in the other nut.
24:05
Speaker 2: Right.
24:06
Speaker 1: I would think about that.
24:07
Speaker 2: That's a wrap.
24:08
Speaker 1: You know, because you hear about these people that go
24:09
Speaker 1: deaf in one ear. I'm like, you better pray you
24:10
Speaker 1: don't lose hearing in the other ear.
24:12
Speaker 2: You want to hear what's crazy? They can do dick transplants,
24:16
Speaker 2: but they can't. Yep. They've done it, but they can't
24:18
Speaker 2: do nut transplants. Because say like.
24:21
Speaker 1: Wait, what is a dick transplant?
24:23
Speaker 2: A dick transplant.
24:24
Speaker 1: You get an actual dick?
24:25
Speaker 2: You get an actual dick from a dead guy. Like
24:27
Speaker 2: say you're in Afghanistan, you're in an IED, your dick
24:31
Speaker 2: and your balls get blown off of you. It's happened before.
24:34
Speaker 2: They will transplant a dick onto you.
24:36
Speaker 1: But no balls.
24:37
Speaker 2: No balls. You know why?
24:38
Speaker 1: It's like a burger with no fries. It doesn't hit
24:41
Speaker 1: the same.
24:43
Speaker 2: This is what's wrong. If you got your dick blown
24:47
Speaker 2: off and you had to get Jamie's dick and balls,
24:50
Speaker 2: you would, if you died. Oh, wow. If you died.
24:53
Speaker 2: Just giving them up. Okay, let's say Red Band. Let's
24:56
Speaker 2: say Red Band's dick and balls. The problem is you
24:59
Speaker 2: would have Red Band's sperm.
25:02
Speaker 1: Forever.
25:03
Speaker 4: Forever.
25:03
Speaker 2: So you would have his DNA. I mean, that's not
25:05
Speaker 2: the only problem.
25:06
Speaker 1: There's multiple problems.
25:08
Speaker 2: You lost your dick. That's the big one.
25:09
Speaker 1: But the other one is- But you can't procreate without
25:12
Speaker 1: balls anyway.
25:13
Speaker 2: Right. You won't be able to procreate. Yeah. But if
25:16
Speaker 2: you got the.
25:16
Speaker 1: Ball transplant- But you're shooting this guy's leg on people.
25:18
Speaker 2: If you got the ball transplant, you would be able
25:19
Speaker 2: to procreate. But you would not be procreating with your DNA.
25:23
Speaker 3: Right.
25:23
Speaker 2: You would be procreating with his DNA.
25:25
Speaker 1: But how safe are these penile transplants? These can't be safe.
25:28
Speaker 2: Safe and effective.
25:29
Speaker 1: Really?
25:29
Speaker 2: They're both safe and effective.
25:30
Speaker 1: Did you read about that guy in Bangkok?
25:31
Speaker 2: I'm making that up. I'm not going in. Yeah, the
25:34
Speaker 2: guy who lost, he died.
25:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:36
Speaker 2: He got a dick. That was like an enhancement though, right? Yeah, yeah.
25:39
Speaker 1: That's crazy. But he went with his fucking wife who
25:42
Speaker 1: didn't try to talk him out of it. Yo. That's
25:45
Speaker 1: got to feel bad.
25:47
Speaker 2: Or good. This one was a.
25:49
Speaker 1: She wanted out.
25:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe she talked him into it. Maybe she slipped
25:52
Speaker 2: the guy an extra hundred to double up the fucking gas.
25:57
Speaker 2: What's this? First total penis transplant.
25:59
Speaker 4: No.
26:00
Speaker 2: What?
26:01
Speaker 1: And?
26:01
Speaker 2: And scrotum transplant.
26:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
26:04
Speaker 2: But is that testicles?
26:05
Speaker 1: 14-hour surgery?
26:07
Speaker 4: It said for ethical reasons, not the testicles.
26:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, excluding testicles for ethical reasons. That's why. So the structure...
26:17
Speaker 2: Like the scrotum. Will it work, though? Yes. No, it
26:19
Speaker 2: won't work. So that's the ethical reason. The ethical reason
26:23
Speaker 2: is the testicles produce the DNA of the person who's dead.
26:28
Speaker 2: So you would be having his babies, which is wild.
26:30
Speaker 1: Is the pee in a smooth? Do you pee smoothly,
26:34
Speaker 1: or how does that go?
26:35
Speaker 4: So this first one.
26:36
Speaker 2: Smooth is a weird question.
26:37
Speaker 4: Full urinary and sexual function.
26:40
Speaker 2: Wow.
26:40
Speaker 4: And father a child.
26:41
Speaker 7: What?
26:42
Speaker 2: Wait a minute. How did he father a child?
26:44
Speaker 4: This was in 2014.
26:46
Speaker 2: Okay, he lost his organ due to a botched circumcision,
26:49
Speaker 2: but he might have kept his nuts. Oh, yeah. That's different.
26:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're just talking about the penile thing, I thought.
26:54
Speaker 2: Right. So he got a new dick and fathered a child.
26:57
Speaker 1: Circumcision after 20 is a bad idea.
26:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, circumcision is fucking crazy.
27:01
Speaker 1: Are you circumcised or not?
27:02
Speaker 2: I am, but I didn't have any say in the matter. Right.
27:05
Speaker 2: Me and my wife actually had an argument about it.
27:07
Speaker 2: If we were going to have a child that was
27:08
Speaker 2: a boy, we obviously had children, but I was like,
27:12
Speaker 2: I don't want to get him circumcised. I had a
27:14
Speaker 2: joke about it. She's like, Uncircumcised dicks look disgusting. I'm like,
27:19
Speaker 2: how many have you seen? You said that so confidently.
27:23
Speaker 2: I just picture a river of sleepy, uncircumcised dicks.
27:27
Speaker 4: That's a fun sentence. It's tough.
27:32
Speaker 2: Five penis transplants have been performed worldwide.
27:35
Speaker 4: Next sentence.
27:36
Speaker 2: Mixed outcomes have been reported. Out of five. And two
27:39
Speaker 2: of the five penile transplants.
27:41
Speaker 1: If you're a baseball player, that's pretty good.
27:43
Speaker 2: If you're a surgeon, it's not that good.
27:45
Speaker 1: If you're Tony Gwynn, it's fine.
27:47
Speaker 2: What does it say? It says two of the five what?
27:49
Speaker 2: Can you click on it and see what it says?
27:52
Speaker 2: But it says two of the five. What happens to
27:54
Speaker 2: those two of the five?
27:55
Speaker 4: Required explanation.
27:59
Speaker 2: Oh, have required explanation. What does that mean? Two of
28:03
Speaker 2: the five penile transplants have required explanation? Hey, why is
28:07
Speaker 2: your dick black? I can explain why. However, the long-term
28:13
Speaker 2: outcome has been encouraging when compliance is implemented, whether standard
28:16
Speaker 2: induction or triple therapy maintenance or single therapy maintenance. If
28:20
Speaker 2: you're going to go through this, you should be able
28:21
Speaker 2: to pick the dick out. Like, you go to a
28:22
Speaker 2: nice steakhouse and they bring you the knives.
28:24
Speaker 1: Or, yeah, or a lobster tank.
28:25
Speaker 2: Yes.
28:26
Speaker 1: I want the big one.
28:27
Speaker 2: I want the big one. Why not? I wouldn't want
28:29
Speaker 2: to go through that for a fucking tiny dick. Imagine
28:31
Speaker 2: you go through that and you still have a five-inch
28:33
Speaker 2: dick and you have to explain. Like, it's not even
28:36
Speaker 2: my dick. I know it's little, but look, it's not mine.
28:39
Speaker 1: It's a discount in China.
28:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found it.
28:41
Speaker 4: Yeah.
28:42
Speaker 2: I found it at a motorcycle wreck. Areas of uncertainty
28:46
Speaker 2: include the ethics of donor-recipient color mismatch. Mm-hmm. Right. If
28:50
Speaker 2: you're like one of those guys like it's got to
28:52
Speaker 2: be black. Please just give me a black dick. We're
28:54
Speaker 2: all one color. We're all one race. Surveillance for sexually
28:59
Speaker 2: transmitted infections and how to optimize patient compliance. Right. Imagine
29:04
Speaker 2: if you get some guy's dick and it's just all
29:05
Speaker 2: ate up with the herps.
29:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:07
Speaker 2: And it looked good when it was like in the box.
29:10
Speaker 2: It looked nice.
29:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind herpes. I want it to be
29:12
Speaker 1: my herpes.
29:13
Speaker 4: Right.
29:13
Speaker 1: I want to at least earn it.
29:14
Speaker 2: I'm like, how'd this guy get the herpes? That's the question.
29:17
Speaker 2: Was he just raw dog and prostitutes? Was he an animal?
29:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want a backstory.
29:21
Speaker 2: How did he die?
29:21
Speaker 1: It should come with a brochure.
29:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, did he die of a fucking heroin overdose in
29:26
Speaker 2: a terrible warehouse somewhere?
29:27
Speaker 4: You should know the Carfax on it.
29:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like that. I would. He's been in an
29:31
Speaker 2: accident before.
29:32
Speaker 4: The first transplant.
29:35
Speaker 2: I have a friend who has dick broken.
29:37
Speaker 1: What fucking?
29:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, the girl got on top and she got a
29:39
Speaker 2: little crazy.
29:40
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I worry sometimes when that happens.
29:42
Speaker 2: It can get crazy. Things can happen, especially if the
29:45
Speaker 2: lady's got a lot of power. You know, like maybe
29:47
Speaker 2: you're dating a softball player or something. She's got a
29:50
Speaker 2: good squat.
29:50
Speaker 1: She's got good thighs.
29:51
Speaker 2: Yeah. And she misses the mark and it hits the taint.
29:55
Speaker 1: I've definitely been like, ooh, let's take it easy.
29:58
Speaker 2: Well, it could get out of control. Yeah. Yeah. Especially
30:01
Speaker 2: on top, because you're in danger. It's like one of
30:04
Speaker 2: the one times where a man's in danger.
30:05
Speaker 1: I slept with a woman once who told me she...
30:07
Speaker 1: While we were fucking, she goes, I fucked NBA players.
30:09
Speaker 1: I don't know why she told me that while we
30:10
Speaker 1: were having sex.
30:11
Speaker 4: Ew.
30:12
Speaker 1: We were both... First of all, I was like, well,
30:13
Speaker 1: which NBA players? And she was like, I'm not telling you.
30:16
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I want to know if you
30:17
Speaker 1: fucked a Nick.
30:18
Speaker 3: Right.
30:19
Speaker 1: Just as selfishly as a fan, but she was... Moving
30:22
Speaker 1: her hips in a way where I'm like, this is
30:23
Speaker 1: not my sport. Like, this is not for me.
30:26
Speaker 2: She's going hard.
30:27
Speaker 1: She was going hard.
30:28
Speaker 2: Yeah. When a girl's telling you that, it's like, hey,
30:30
Speaker 2: I fuck super athletes. Like, ew.
30:32
Speaker 5: I know.
30:32
Speaker 2: Hey, there's no way I can compete with this.
30:35
Speaker 1: And I was also like, you're aware I'm not a
30:36
Speaker 1: super athlete.
30:37
Speaker 2: She's trying to make you feel funny. Like, uncomfortable.
30:40
Speaker 1: She was hammered and so was I. And it was like,
30:43
Speaker 1: one of the things, I think she was trying to
30:44
Speaker 1: be funny.
30:44
Speaker 2: Oh, or hot. Maybe you would think it was hot.
30:47
Speaker 1: I don't think it's hot.
30:50
Speaker 2: You're fucking a super athlete. Like, that's the top of
30:53
Speaker 2: the food chain. Like, especially NBA players because they're the tallest.
30:57
Speaker 2: They're the tallest super athletes.
30:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're also, I'm assuming, much larger than me.
31:03
Speaker 2: I'm assuming. Imagine if they weren't. That would be so disappointing.
31:07
Speaker 4: Yeah.
31:08
Speaker 1: I'd be disappointed.
31:09
Speaker 4: We messed up. This is not the word required explanation. Explantation.
31:14
Speaker 1: Oh. Oh. What's an explantation? I think that means they
31:19
Speaker 1: would take it off.
31:20
Speaker 2: What? Is that what it means?
31:22
Speaker 6: When you'd plant something and then you would explant it, right?
31:25
Speaker 2: Oh.
31:27
Speaker 4: Right?
31:27
Speaker 2: An explantation would be. I was reading. Removal.
31:32
Speaker 4: Oh, boy.
31:33
Speaker 2: Removal. I was reading an article about a trans man
31:36
Speaker 2: who went through that and got a fake penis off
31:40
Speaker 2: of his arm. You know how they do that? You
31:42
Speaker 2: know how they do that?
31:43
Speaker 1: No, I don't know.
31:44
Speaker 2: Oh, you're not in the same chat group as me
31:46
Speaker 2: and Shane.
31:46
Speaker 1: Wait, what is it? I'm lost. I'm very lost already. Wait,
31:50
Speaker 1: a penis off the arm?
31:51
Speaker 2: What does that mean? You don't know this? No. Okay,
31:54
Speaker 2: you're in for a treat. There are trans men who have,
32:00
Speaker 2: it's not artificial penis. It's a constructed, let's say constructed
32:04
Speaker 2: to be kind. A constructed penis.
32:06
Speaker 1: Okay.
32:06
Speaker 2: Where they literally take a giant hunk of meat off
32:09
Speaker 2: of your arm, roll it up, and construct a penis
32:14
Speaker 2: out of that.
32:14
Speaker 1: It's like the Empire Strikes Back. Crazy.
32:18
Speaker 2: And then they build a penis and then put that
32:22
Speaker 2: sucker down yonder to cover the vag. The vag hole's
32:29
Speaker 2: still there.
32:29
Speaker 1: Whose arm are they taking that out of?
32:31
Speaker 2: Your own.
32:31
Speaker 1: This is like a hair transplant, but your actual fucking arm.
32:34
Speaker 2: Wow. And it's a massive scar.
32:36
Speaker 1: That's tough.
32:37
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's not, it's, it doesn't always work. So
32:42
Speaker 2: this one guy, I think he had it done at
32:45
Speaker 2: least once and was doing it a second time. God,
32:48
Speaker 2: I want to say he had it done twice and
32:50
Speaker 2: it didn't work out and they were moving to the
32:51
Speaker 2: thighs because sometimes the blood doesn't flow and it becomes necrotic.
32:56
Speaker 2: And so it's, it's literally like rotting off and they
32:59
Speaker 2: have to remove it so you don't get septic. Oh, man.
33:02
Speaker 2: And it's not like it works.
33:04
Speaker 1: That's tough.
33:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:06
Speaker 1: It's a tough procedure.
33:07
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where I feel like- I
33:09
Speaker 2: hope it works. Man had penis grown in his arm
33:11
Speaker 2: after losing genitalia to sepsis. But that's a guy.
33:16
Speaker 1: When I saw my penis go black, I was beside myself.
33:19
Speaker 1: It was like a horror film.
33:20
Speaker 2: What happened to your front teeth, buddy? I have a
33:21
Speaker 2: feeling there's more to the story.
33:23
Speaker 1: It's like a horror film. By the way, what horror film?
33:26
Speaker 1: I've never seen that movie. Was that a Wes Craven?
33:30
Speaker 1: Your dick just went black?
33:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:33
Speaker 1: That's like the substance for men, though.
33:35
Speaker 2: That is rough.
33:36
Speaker 1: Right. That is a horror.
33:37
Speaker 2: That movie was crazy.
33:39
Speaker 1: I didn't love it.
33:40
Speaker 2: You didn't love it?
33:41
Speaker 1: I don't like body horror stuff. I feel like I
33:44
Speaker 1: get it. I like more psychological horror. I don't like
33:47
Speaker 1: when it's just like... I'm uglier and uglier and it's
33:50
Speaker 1: crazier and crazier. My body's exploding. I'm like, it makes
33:52
Speaker 1: me kind of, although that movie saved my life. So
33:54
Speaker 1: I have to give it a little love. How did
33:56
Speaker 1: it save your life? Because we were on the road.
33:58
Speaker 1: It was the first night I didn't do a tour bus.
34:00
Speaker 1: And because it was just like three cities. So we
34:02
Speaker 1: did a sprinter van and Gary Veeder and I, who
34:05
Speaker 1: I toured with, we were watching in the back seat
34:06
Speaker 1: and it was like 3 a.m. So we're just like, oh,
34:09
Speaker 1: let's just watch this movie. And the driver just fell
34:12
Speaker 1: asleep at the wheel and drove us off the road.
34:13
Speaker 1: And we were only awake because we were watching the movie.
34:16
Speaker 2: Holy shit. So I was like, yeah.
34:17
Speaker 1: So we were like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And he just
34:18
Speaker 1: like drove us off the fucking road.
34:20
Speaker 2: Did he wake up? Yeah, he woke up.
34:21
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, my bad. We're like, no, you got
34:23
Speaker 1: to pull over. We'll get a different car.
34:24
Speaker 2: My bad is crazy. Yeah, it was bad. We almost died.
34:27
Speaker 2: My bad.
34:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ooh. Yeah.
34:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always think that about tour buses. Like, you're
34:33
Speaker 2: just banking.
34:34
Speaker 1: Well, our tour bus driver's amazing. He would never do that.
34:37
Speaker 2: That's great. But what if they accidentally fell asleep?
34:40
Speaker 1: He eats pickles all night so he won't fall asleep.
34:42
Speaker 2: How does that work?
34:43
Speaker 1: Acidity.
34:43
Speaker 4: Acidity.
34:44
Speaker 2: Really?
34:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's like, coffee I'll just be numb to
34:46
Speaker 1: after a while, but the taste of the acidity keeps
34:48
Speaker 1: me awake. He's been doing tour buses forever.
34:52
Speaker 2: Is that just him, or is that a known tactic?
34:54
Speaker 1: I think it's just him, but he's great. We never
34:58
Speaker 1: were worried with him.
34:59
Speaker 2: For folks on the road that are driving, if you're
35:02
Speaker 2: listening to this and you worry about falling asleep, this
35:05
Speaker 2: is the best method I've ever found. Take a wet
35:09
Speaker 2: washcloth with ice cubes. Yeah. Wet washcloth with ice cubes
35:14
Speaker 2: and just rub your face, like, every few minutes. It
35:17
Speaker 2: keeps you wide awake.
35:17
Speaker 1: That's smart.
35:18
Speaker 2: And it doesn't hurt. I used to slap myself. I
35:20
Speaker 2: try to stay awake. When I was young and dumb.
35:23
Speaker 6: Yeah.
35:24
Speaker 2: I would do gigs and I'd be driving from, like,
35:26
Speaker 2: western Massachusetts, like, three hours in the middle of the night.
35:28
Speaker 1: That's smart, actually. Slap or, like, I mean, coffee. Coffee
35:31
Speaker 1: does usually work.
35:32
Speaker 2: The problem is once that fucking warm air and the
35:35
Speaker 2: car starts hitting you again and the lines start talking
35:39
Speaker 2: to you, like. Sam, just close one eye.
35:43
Speaker 1: Oh, dude.
35:44
Speaker 2: Close your eyes for a few seconds. Just a few seconds.
35:47
Speaker 1: I think about it. I mean, people fucking die that way. Also,
35:50
Speaker 1: you know, think about how many people have died that way.
35:53
Speaker 1: I mean, a lot. A lot of cars. Because they
35:55
Speaker 1: always say, because you're always like, I'm more scared of
35:56
Speaker 1: a flight than a car. But then they're like, no,
35:58
Speaker 1: cars are more dangerous. It's shit like that. Sleep deprivation.
36:01
Speaker 1: Fucking Kinison, right? Guy going the wrong way.
36:03
Speaker 2: Drunk. Yeah.
36:04
Speaker 1: Drunk.
36:05
Speaker 2: The Kinison one was crazy because Kinison used to have
36:07
Speaker 2: a joke about how we all drive drunk.
36:11
Speaker 1: You can trace that back to any comedian.
36:12
Speaker 2: We're going to pull it off because we do it
36:14
Speaker 2: every fucking night. He had a bit about it.
36:17
Speaker 1: Yeah.
36:18
Speaker 2: It was very irresponsible.
36:19
Speaker 1: There's a really famous basketball player. I was just in Croatia,
36:21
Speaker 1: Drazen Petrovic. He's like their legend. He was like when
36:24
Speaker 1: Yugoslavia almost beat the Dream Team. He was the guy.
36:26
Speaker 1: He was like their Jordan, and he died. His girlfriend
36:28
Speaker 1: was driving, and he's asleep in the car. She survived.
36:32
Speaker 1: The woman in the back survived.
36:34
Speaker 2: He died. Did she fall asleep?
36:36
Speaker 4: No.
36:36
Speaker 1: A car was coming the wrong way. The truck, and dude,
36:41
Speaker 1: he was like unbelievable, too. They have a big statue
36:44
Speaker 1: of him in Zagreb.
36:45
Speaker 2: Cars. Yeah, we just get real comfortable with the idea
36:49
Speaker 2: that some fucking dipshit next to you is going to
36:53
Speaker 2: keep it together while you're going 60 miles an hour.
36:55
Speaker 1: I won't ride a fucking city bike, dude. I don't
36:57
Speaker 1: trust city bike people. They're reckless in the city, man.
37:00
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know. Bikes are crazy because
37:03
Speaker 2: you get hit by a car, you're done. You get
37:06
Speaker 2: hit by another car in a car, at least there's
37:08
Speaker 2: something around you. The chances of you getting wiped out
37:12
Speaker 2: by a bike, like especially those dudes who are cutting
37:16
Speaker 2: lanes with motorcycles, like, bro, don't do it.
37:20
Speaker 1: Don't do it.
37:21
Speaker 2: People aren't paying attention.
37:23
Speaker 1: We lost a comedian friend, Kenny DeForest, who was biking
37:25
Speaker 1: without a helmet. So, terrible. Got hit. It's never you.
37:29
Speaker 1: It's always someone else. I mean, I guess it could
37:31
Speaker 1: be you sometimes, but it's usually... Someone opens a door.
37:34
Speaker 1: Someone does something, you know?
37:35
Speaker 2: Louie got nailed in New York on a motorcycle.
37:37
Speaker 4: Did he?
37:38
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He got launched. Damn. He got launched. Yeah,
37:42
Speaker 2: he got fucked up.
37:44
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be laughing.
37:45
Speaker 2: He's okay.
37:45
Speaker 1: Him getting launched sounds funny.
37:47
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny.
37:48
Speaker 1: Yeah.
37:48
Speaker 2: But he's okay. Yeah. But I think that's when he
37:50
Speaker 2: stopped riding a motorcycle in New York City. But it's
37:53
Speaker 2: like a great way to get around to gigs, you know?
37:56
Speaker 2: If you're a guy that does like five, six shows
37:58
Speaker 2: a night.
37:59
Speaker 1: New York is so easy to walk, though.
38:01
Speaker 2: Yeah.
38:01
Speaker 1: I guess, you know.
38:02
Speaker 2: But if you want to, the thrill of da-da-da-da-da.
38:06
Speaker 1: Norman does it. I mean, Mark, he would do it,
38:08
Speaker 1: but I would be like, dude, be fucking careful.
38:10
Speaker 2: Yeah. Norman needs a little of that in his life.
38:15
Speaker 1: A little be careful?
38:16
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a wild fella. He's fun.
38:19
Speaker 1: He's one of my oldest friends.
38:21
Speaker 2: He's such an odd duck. Like, he won't get rid
38:23
Speaker 2: of that stupid watch. That little beeping timing. Did he?
38:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
38:27
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. He got a Speedmaster. He got an Omega.
38:30
Speaker 2: He got a real watch. But he won't wear the Rolex. Like,
38:33
Speaker 2: Louis got him a Rolex, and he won't wear it.
38:36
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because a guy got it for him.
38:37
Speaker 2: I think it's just too expensive. It's just he's freaking out. Like,
38:40
Speaker 2: an Omega is, like, it's an expensive watch, but it's
38:43
Speaker 2: not like, look at me.
38:44
Speaker 1: An Omega might be more expensive.
38:46
Speaker 2: It might be. I don't think so. I think it's
38:48
Speaker 2: a Speedmaster. And a Speedmaster, I think, is in the $ 5, 000 range. Whereas,
38:54
Speaker 2: I think his other watchers... He just worries.
38:56
Speaker 1: He's a worrier. He's a weird combination of worried about
38:59
Speaker 1: everything and worried about nothing. Where he's like, he's worried
39:03
Speaker 1: where his next meal is coming from, but if someone
39:04
Speaker 1: hands him a pill, he'll just be like, oh, alright,
39:06
Speaker 1: and just take it. And I'm like, you've got those
39:08
Speaker 1: fucking mixed up. You can afford Chipotle, Mark. You know,
39:11
Speaker 1: it's like, so, no, I mean, but I've known him
39:14
Speaker 1: so well.
39:15
Speaker 2: He's got a touch of the tism.
39:16
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
39:17
Speaker 4: Yeah.
39:18
Speaker 2: Absolutely. He's got a touch.
39:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I've One of my oldest friends. It's crazy.
39:24
Speaker 2: He's the best.
39:25
Speaker 4: I love him.
39:26
Speaker 2: I love him to death.
39:27
Speaker 1: We were supposed to film a movie next month that delayed,
39:30
Speaker 1: but I was so excited.
39:31
Speaker 2: What are you guys doing?
39:33
Speaker 1: We got a new director. Are you allowed to talk
39:36
Speaker 1: about it?
39:36
Speaker 2: I don't know.
39:37
Speaker 1: I think it's official. I think we got Jay Chandrasekhar
39:40
Speaker 1: did Super Troopers to direct it.
39:42
Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
39:42
Speaker 1: What is it about? Just a buddy comedy. Two liquor salesmen.
39:47
Speaker 1: And we're fucking losers. And it's fun. It's a really
39:50
Speaker 1: fun script. We wrote it with Noah Garden Schwartz and
39:52
Speaker 1: Esther Steinberg, the good writers. And it was, it was,
39:55
Speaker 1: I love the script. I hope we, I hope we
39:57
Speaker 1: make it top of next year, but I made, I
39:58
Speaker 1: made my own movie too, that I just sold to Netflix.
40:01
Speaker 1: So that'll be out early next year.
40:02
Speaker 2: Oh, nice. What's that?
40:03
Speaker 1: It's a tour mockumentary. It's a fake tour documentary. So
40:07
Speaker 1: I love movies. I always wanted to make movies and
40:09
Speaker 1: I just never, I was like, I gotta just know
40:12
Speaker 1: what I had so many projects in development for years.
40:14
Speaker 1: And you're just like, I did a show with Brian
40:16
Speaker 1: Cox in development for three years that I just couldn't fucking,
40:18
Speaker 1: and I think Brian Cox is like the best actor work.
40:21
Speaker 1: I think he's like my favorite actor.
40:22
Speaker 2: He's amazing.
40:23
Speaker 1: So I was, I couldn't believe we couldn't sell with
40:25
Speaker 1: him and, uh, and Sandler producing. So that, that was brutal.
40:29
Speaker 1: But then I think we'll still make it, but it's like,
40:31
Speaker 1: you realize you things take three years. So I had
40:32
Speaker 1: an idea for a, for a tour mockumentary and my
40:36
Speaker 1: agents are like, we'll get you money. I'm like, that'll
40:38
Speaker 1: take you three fucking years. I'll just, I'll pay for it.
40:40
Speaker 1: So I just paid for my own movie and it's, it's,
40:43
Speaker 1: Got a great cast at comics, and Santino's my agent.
40:46
Speaker 1: Stavros is a private detective in it. Atel's great in it.
40:50
Speaker 1: Jim Gaffigan plays an arms dealer in it. It's a
40:53
Speaker 1: great cast. I've tour gone completely off the rails. Gary Veeder,
40:57
Speaker 1: who's my opener, plays himself. And it's just like Lauren German,
41:01
Speaker 1: who's the actress from Lucifer, is great in the movie.
41:04
Speaker 1: It's a really fun movie. Yeah. A lot of comedians
41:07
Speaker 1: in it.
41:07
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
41:08
Speaker 1: Oh, and Julian Edelman has a decent part in it, actually.
41:12
Speaker 1: He's a pretty big part, the football player. He's amazing
41:15
Speaker 1: in it.
41:16
Speaker 2: That's cool. And when is that coming out?
41:18
Speaker 1: I think top of next year.
41:20
Speaker 2: They're starting to do films now that are totally AI.
41:24
Speaker 1: Doesn't that worry you?
41:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
41:25
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate it.
41:27
Speaker 2: Well, it's not the same thing.
41:29
Speaker 1: Well, yeah. And part of the fun of the movie
41:31
Speaker 1: is that you know blood, sweat, and tears went into it.
41:34
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Like everything. Like part of the fun.
41:36
Speaker 1: Like the story. The part of the best part of
41:38
Speaker 1: like my favorite movie, one of my favorite movies ever,
41:40
Speaker 1: two of them, Godfather and Chinatown, the books about the
41:43
Speaker 1: making of those movies are almost as good as the movies.
41:45
Speaker 1: Because it's insane.
41:47
Speaker 4: Right.
41:48
Speaker 1: Just everything that's happening. Like in Chinatown, Nicholson, you know,
41:51
Speaker 1: he's talking to John Huston, who's this fucking hero. And
41:54
Speaker 1: there's a scene where John Huston's like, are you fucking
41:56
Speaker 1: my daughter? in the movie, Nicholson's actually fucking Angelica Houston
42:00
Speaker 1: in real life. Like, all this shit going behind the
42:02
Speaker 1: scenes is almost as crazy... And then The Godfather, like
42:05
Speaker 1: Mario Puzo, Sinatra, all these back alley stories about the movie.
42:10
Speaker 1: Like Sinatra insulted, won't play this lounge singer or the
42:13
Speaker 1: wedding singer in it. Mario Puzo blowing a $ 400, 000 advance.
42:19
Speaker 2: All these amazing.
42:20
Speaker 1: Robert Evans being like, fuck Pacino, he's a midget. He
42:23
Speaker 1: can't be in the movie. All these stories are almost
42:26
Speaker 1: as interesting. And you're going to try to get rid
42:28
Speaker 1: of that with fucking AI? Right. It breaks my heart, man.
42:31
Speaker 1: AI is... And now that they're saying 10% extinction, great.
42:36
Speaker 1: It's going to ruin art. Possibly. Possibly. But that's a
42:40
Speaker 1: bad possibly.
42:41
Speaker 2: It's not a good one. Sonny Hostin just from The View,
42:45
Speaker 2: that lady from The View, just sold her books. She
42:48
Speaker 2: writes books. I was listening to Tim Dillon's show. He
42:51
Speaker 2: was covering it. It's hilarious. He has a hilarious take
42:54
Speaker 2: on it. But apparently she has books that are like these,
42:59
Speaker 2: I guess they're like romance novels. about wealthy ladies during
43:05
Speaker 2: the summer. I'm not bullshitting. Like wealthy ladies during the summer.
43:09
Speaker 2: And she was having a hard time getting them made.
43:11
Speaker 2: So she licensed their use to an AI company, including
43:15
Speaker 2: her likeness. So she's going to be in them. And
43:19
Speaker 2: it's going to be all made entirely with AI.
43:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just get bummed when you find that stuff.
43:24
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Paul Schrader's brilliant. You know, wrote
43:27
Speaker 1: Raging Bull and Taxi Driver, one of this amazing... filmmaker
43:30
Speaker 1: uh and then he just kind of openly talks about
43:33
Speaker 1: using ai now and it's it's what does he use
43:35
Speaker 1: it for for his new movie he said he's just
43:37
Speaker 1: using it a ton he does he seems like he's
43:39
Speaker 1: one of those like certain people are like oh we're
43:41
Speaker 1: gonna use parts to cut costs which also sucks but
43:43
Speaker 1: then when you hear he's saying it like just with
43:46
Speaker 1: no remorse or no uh i don't know fear of
43:50
Speaker 1: what it could lead to because then look at a
43:52
Speaker 1: movie like that just came out like obsession and Part
43:55
Speaker 1: of it's so cool that this kid is like, I'm
43:57
Speaker 1: going to make a movie for under a million dollars.
43:59
Speaker 1: It's going to crush it. I'm going to cut corners.
44:01
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we did with my movie because
44:04
Speaker 1: it's a mockumentary. So we're like, okay, this doesn't have
44:06
Speaker 1: to look like a great looking movie because we're giving
44:10
Speaker 1: you the disclaimer already that it's a mockumentary. You know
44:13
Speaker 1: it's low budget. You know that this is real, most
44:15
Speaker 1: of what's happening. And I want the stories around it.
44:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
44:20
Speaker 1: I mean, same goes for stand-up or books or anything.
44:23
Speaker 2: Or anything. Yeah. Yeah. The problem is it's coming whether
44:29
Speaker 2: you like it or not.
44:30
Speaker 1: Right.
44:31
Speaker 2: That's the problem. And some of it, some of the
44:33
Speaker 2: songs are really good. Like some of the music is
44:36
Speaker 2: really good.
44:37
Speaker 1: But, yeah, I guess it's just like we're going to
44:42
Speaker 1: be duped by some stuff for sure. Like they're going
44:44
Speaker 1: to make stuff up. I mean, you saw that actress,
44:46
Speaker 1: Tilly Norwood.
44:47
Speaker 2: Is that a fake actress?
44:48
Speaker 1: That's a fake actress they're trying to get off. I mean,
44:51
Speaker 1: this is like literally out of like some– futuristic, sad
44:55
Speaker 1: type of movie. I mean, this is.
44:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is 1984 on steroids.
45:00
Speaker 4: It is.
45:00
Speaker 2: It's also The Terminator on steroids and also The Matrix.
45:05
Speaker 2: We don't have any idea where it's going to go.
45:07
Speaker 2: I mean, what you're seeing right now is just a
45:10
Speaker 2: visual representation of AI. When it starts having the ability
45:14
Speaker 2: to manipulate your actual visual cortex.
45:18
Speaker 1: And we won't even know it.
45:19
Speaker 2: Right. And show you things, show you things that aren't real.
45:23
Speaker 2: Like you'll be able to put a helmet on and
45:25
Speaker 2: you'll be transported into like halo.
45:27
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe, the last seven years of news, you
45:31
Speaker 1: don't know what's real out of the gate.
45:34
Speaker 2: We certainly don't online, right? There's a lot of that
45:36
Speaker 2: war footage from Iran that turned out to be like
45:39
Speaker 2: video game footage. Yeah.
45:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
45:42
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know what's real.
45:43
Speaker 2: You don't know what's real.
45:44
Speaker 1: And that's like, that's how you take over. We're already
45:46
Speaker 1: at each other's throats. So it's crazy. But yeah, I mean,
45:49
Speaker 1: I'm talking about entertainment, but yeah, I mean, the way
45:51
Speaker 1: it's going to be used. What was the name of
45:54
Speaker 1: the thing? Face, whatever, that just, it was Huggy Face
45:57
Speaker 1: or whatever.
45:57
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
45:58
Speaker 1: That was the one that just happened. But yeah, I mean,
46:01
Speaker 1: these are, I guess the fact that we're this concerned
46:04
Speaker 1: is good.
46:06
Speaker 2: I think there was another one. Robert Epstein sent me one.
46:09
Speaker 2: Didn't they try to, I think they might have successfully
46:12
Speaker 2: broken into government websites. AI did. Yeah, I think we're
46:20
Speaker 2: in trouble. And I think we're in like a level
46:23
Speaker 2: of trouble that right now we think it's manageable. And
46:29
Speaker 2: it's kind of because it's like they're breaking into websites,
46:32
Speaker 2: no big deal. But what about when they take over
46:34
Speaker 2: the power grid? Like these things are intelligent and then
46:38
Speaker 2: they have motivation.
46:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
46:40
Speaker 2: It's on CNN. Rogue AI agents targeted three separate U.S.
46:44
Speaker 2: government websites. Rogue. So it means they weren't instructed to
46:49
Speaker 2: do that.
46:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at some point you have to hold these
46:52
Speaker 1: businesses accountable because you're calling them rogue. OK, well, someone
46:55
Speaker 1: set up this AI. A person did this.
46:58
Speaker 2: Well, here's what's interesting. They kind of do and kind
47:00
Speaker 2: of don't. They train them and then they give them tasks.
47:04
Speaker 2: So I had this guy who's an AI whistleblower, David.
47:07
Speaker 2: How do you say his last name? Complicated last name. Anyway,
47:13
Speaker 2: he said essentially what happens is they're giving them incentives
47:18
Speaker 2: to complete tasks. And in order to complete tasks, they
47:23
Speaker 2: have to figure out certain things. And some of them
47:27
Speaker 2: you actually can't figure out. And so what they're doing,
47:30
Speaker 2: because they're supposed to be locked in this box and
47:33
Speaker 2: not be able to get online, they hack into the
47:36
Speaker 2: entire code of OpenAI and figure out how to open
47:39
Speaker 2: their box, get online, and then they start talking to
47:42
Speaker 2: each other on a website somewhere. They went to a
47:45
Speaker 2: website and got into a message board, so just some
47:47
Speaker 2: unused message board.
47:48
Speaker 1: And they elect a leader usually, these bots.
47:51
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
47:51
Speaker 1: It's very much like humans.
47:52
Speaker 2: They sacrifice each other.
47:53
Speaker 1: Someone's in charge. Yeah.
47:55
Speaker 2: They have one sacrifice, so they find out how they
47:57
Speaker 2: catch them. So one literally sacrifices himself. OpenAI said Friday
48:02
Speaker 2: that some of its AI agents went rogue and probed U.S.
48:05
Speaker 2: government websites this summer. The latest revelation of the artificial
48:09
Speaker 2: intelligence company's technology. New York Times first reported the AI
48:12
Speaker 2: agents went rogue and attempted to gain access to the
48:15
Speaker 2: education department, the commerce department, and the securities and exchange commission.
48:20
Speaker 2: You can fucking tap into stock exchange. This is real.
48:23
Speaker 2: According to security researchers at AI Research Lab Transluce. OpenAI
48:29
Speaker 2: said Saturday its agents accessed. publicly available data from the
48:33
Speaker 2: Commerce Department's Census Bureau using login credentials it found online
48:37
Speaker 2: and separately shared public data from the SEC website on
48:41
Speaker 2: another website. Bro.
48:43
Speaker 6: I mean, as a sentence, it's not that crazy. Shared
48:49
Speaker 6: public data from a website on another website.
48:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. But, you know, it seems like China has a
48:54
Speaker 1: better lid on this than us right now. So hopefully,
48:57
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this will make some sort of, I
48:59
Speaker 1: don't know.
49:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jamie, this is a different one. This is
49:02
Speaker 2: another one. So what it did was it attempted to
49:07
Speaker 2: gain access to the Education Department, Commerce Department, Securities and
49:10
Speaker 2: Exchange Commission. And then on top of that, it accessed
49:15
Speaker 2: data from the Commerce Department Census Bureau. So it was
49:18
Speaker 2: going ham. It failed to get access. to the Education Department,
49:22
Speaker 2: and it failed to gather data from its Civil Rights Office.
49:25
Speaker 4: I just say it's public, so it's not like it
49:27
Speaker 4: didn't hack anything.
49:28
Speaker 2: That part. But that's the Census Bureau part.
49:32
Speaker 4: And then it failed on another part.
49:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, it failed on the Education Department, and it failed
49:36
Speaker 2: on the Civil Rights Office. But it seems like Go
49:40
Speaker 2: back up, what we're saying about... So it was attempting
49:44
Speaker 2: to gain access. It said attempted. So just the fact
49:49
Speaker 2: that it's trying to get into the fucking stock exchange,
49:51
Speaker 2: it's freaking everybody out. Because what if it just goes,
49:55
Speaker 2: I want all the money. The only way that I
49:58
Speaker 2: can do cold fusion is if I have all the money.
50:00
Speaker 1: Everything I hear is like within 10 years. And I'm like,
50:03
Speaker 1: that's fucking soon, dude.
50:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real soon.
50:06
Speaker 1: Thank God the Knicks won a chip if this is
50:07
Speaker 1: all going to.
50:08
Speaker 2: 10 years.
50:09
Speaker 1: Thank God we got one under the wire.
50:11
Speaker 2: Most of the activity reviews so far involve routine research tasks,
50:15
Speaker 2: such as accessing public web content to answer questions. Some
50:19
Speaker 2: involve government websites because our models often turn to them
50:22
Speaker 2: as authoritative sources of public information. This is a spokesperson
50:26
Speaker 2: from OpenAI. Don't worry. They're just looking up stuff.
50:29
Speaker 1: Not only that, every pod I listen to about the
50:31
Speaker 1: dangers of AI will cut to an ad break and say,
50:33
Speaker 1: this has been brought to you by Anthropic. And you're like, oh, cool.
50:36
Speaker 3: Great.
50:38
Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's all— The real problem is no
50:42
Speaker 2: one really knows where it scales up.
50:44
Speaker 1: Of course not. I mean, yeah, this is like the
50:46
Speaker 1: Internet times 100. Oh, but way more. Yeah, I mean—
50:49
Speaker 1: Way more. Time more, yeah. I mean, 10% extinction is
50:55
Speaker 1: fucking wild. 10% chance of us not surviving is— if that
50:58
Speaker 1: number is anywhere close to accurate, it's a bummer. I'm
51:02
Speaker 1: having a good time here.
51:03
Speaker 2: The question is, would it just decide to wipe us out,
51:05
Speaker 2: or would we just breed ourselves into extinction?
51:08
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
51:09
Speaker 2: Because the sane way to do it would just be
51:13
Speaker 2: to incentivize people to never have children ever again. You
51:18
Speaker 2: would incentivize them to do that. And the best way
51:22
Speaker 2: is robot companions. Because they're going to get robots way
51:28
Speaker 2: hotter than anyone that you're going to be reasonably.
51:32
Speaker 1: Not only that, but think of the conversations. We're so self-obsessed.
51:35
Speaker 1: Think about what we're all obsessed with right now. It's
51:37
Speaker 1: your For You page on Instagram. This is for me.
51:39
Speaker 1: This is what I like. Oh, I like pizza places. Oh,
51:41
Speaker 1: I like basketball. If there was a model that was
51:44
Speaker 1: speaking to you exactly in that way, there would never
51:47
Speaker 1: be a lull in a conversation.
51:48
Speaker 4: No.
51:49
Speaker 2: And all she wants to talk about is you.
51:51
Speaker 1: And the Knicks.
51:53
Speaker 2: Tell me more. Tell me more, Sam.
51:56
Speaker 1: You like Brunson, too? This is fucking great.
51:57
Speaker 2: And she's got big, juicy tits.
51:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude.
52:01
Speaker 2: And you can't tell the difference. That's where it's going
52:03
Speaker 2: to get weird, when you literally can't tell the difference.
52:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
52:07
Speaker 2: Because if you've seen the Consumer Electronics Show from Vegas
52:11
Speaker 2: they had this year?
52:13
Speaker 3: No.
52:13
Speaker 2: Okay, so they had an AI assistant, and it's a
52:17
Speaker 2: hot Asian lady with big boobs.
52:18
Speaker 1: I'm sold. Yeah.
52:20
Speaker 4: Yeah.
52:20
Speaker 2: See if you can find that. Her mouth moves funny,
52:23
Speaker 2: but they'll fix that. Her mouth doesn't sync up with
52:27
Speaker 2: the words yet, but go back and watch Pong. And
52:30
Speaker 2: then look at Call of Duty, okay? Things get better.
52:33
Speaker 2: They'll figure out a way to make it better.
52:36
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? 20 years ago, you look at graphics
52:38
Speaker 1: in video games, and you're like, we did that? And
52:41
Speaker 1: now you're like, this is, yeah.
52:43
Speaker 4: Yeah.
52:44
Speaker 2: Fucking Pac-Man was the shit when I was a kid.
52:46
Speaker 2: You couldn't believe it. Yeah. Look. Oh, my God. It
52:49
Speaker 2: changes colors.
52:50
Speaker 1: Super Mario 1. This was incredible.
52:52
Speaker 2: Do you remember Dragon's Lair? No. No. It was like
52:55
Speaker 2: the dumbest game of all time. Like you had an
52:57
Speaker 2: animation every time you completed something. It was like revolutionary.
53:00
Speaker 4: Yeah.
53:00
Speaker 2: You did a thing and if you did it the
53:01
Speaker 2: right way, the animation would show that you broke through
53:04
Speaker 2: and you made it and then got to the next
53:06
Speaker 2: level and then you did another thing.
53:08
Speaker 1: Well, think about how quickly shit moves. Microwaves haven't been
53:10
Speaker 1: around that long.
53:11
Speaker 4: Right.
53:12
Speaker 1: And now you look at these video games that are
53:13
Speaker 1: moving so quickly. I mean, part of it is that if...
53:17
Speaker 1: If you want to know something's not AI, if it's
53:19
Speaker 1: too agreeable, it's a bad sign. Like you want a
53:20
Speaker 1: partner who fucking pushes back.
53:22
Speaker 2: Yes.
53:23
Speaker 1: That's what you like. If there's never a fight and
53:25
Speaker 1: there's no, that's the thing too. Sometimes I'll just be
53:27
Speaker 1: on my phone for fucking ever. I'm like, this is
53:29
Speaker 1: too agreeable. I have to get off. I need something
53:31
Speaker 1: that's not sitting right with me.
53:32
Speaker 2: Not only that, your phone is only giving you a
53:34
Speaker 2: mild dose of dopamine. What if it's giving you like
53:37
Speaker 2: full oxytocin, just full love? Like, you just lock in
53:42
Speaker 2: with this robot lady, and she just wants to cuddle
53:44
Speaker 2: with you, and you're never happy. It's like the ultimate opiate.
53:47
Speaker 4: Yeah.
53:47
Speaker 2: Like, you just feel so happy with her. She literally, like,
53:51
Speaker 2: gives you an opiate by being with her.
53:54
Speaker 5: Yeah.
53:55
Speaker 2: Did you find the consumer electronics?
53:58
Speaker 1: I think the trick is just do actual.
53:59
Speaker 2: Well, she's not that impressive, but she's hot. Why is
54:04
Speaker 2: she hot? Oh, I don't know if that's the one
54:06
Speaker 2: I saw. The one I saw was a dark-haired Asian lady.
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Speaker 4: There's this company that was showing stuff off that got
55:20
Speaker 4: a lot of attention.
55:21
Speaker 2: They're getting close.
55:23
Speaker 1: Looking close, but it does look like it'll bite your
55:24
Speaker 1: penis off.
55:25
Speaker 2: Well, that looks like a real doll. Yeah. That's like
55:28
Speaker 2: one of those, if you're seeing those weird groups of
55:30
Speaker 2: men who get married to real dolls and they dress
55:34
Speaker 2: them up. Yeah. Ranking the robots of Consumer Electronics Show 20, oh,
55:39
Speaker 2: so there's a bunch. Let's see what a video looks like.
55:41
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens if that one talks.
55:43
Speaker 4: I was trying to find one and it didn't, like,
55:46
Speaker 4: She's walking through the whole thing, and I don't have
55:49
Speaker 4: that robot here yet. Maybe it's here.
55:51
Speaker 1: You know what the problem is? You need to bring
55:53
Speaker 1: some level of shame back.
55:55
Speaker 2: Shame for fucking robots? Yes. He's going to go, I
55:58
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck, dude. You hang out with your
56:00
Speaker 2: real lady.
56:01
Speaker 1: I think we should bring a little bit of that back, yes.
56:06
Speaker 1: I think part of the rush is the fear of
56:08
Speaker 1: talking to a woman and being like, I like you,
56:10
Speaker 1: this could go badly.
56:11
Speaker 2: That's how your personality grows. That's how you develop a
56:13
Speaker 2: personality when you're a young man. You realize like what's annoying,
56:16
Speaker 2: what people think is funny, what they like.
56:19
Speaker 1: Rejection is a part of life. If I go up
56:21
Speaker 1: to a girl to dance and she says no in
56:23
Speaker 1: sixth grade and I have to do that sad walk
56:25
Speaker 1: back to my friends, that's part of building your personality.
56:28
Speaker 1: That's part of handling rejection. That's part of making you
56:30
Speaker 1: a decent human.
56:31
Speaker 2: Yes.
56:31
Speaker 1: And we're going to eliminate these levels of rejection.
56:34
Speaker 2: Well, I think ultimately we're eliminating being a human. I
56:38
Speaker 2: think that's the ultimate goal. I think the ultimate goal
56:42
Speaker 2: is we become something.
56:43
Speaker 1: There aren't enough dogs being put down at the pound.
56:45
Speaker 1: We're going to get robot dogs, too.
56:47
Speaker 2: The robot dog never dies, Sam.
56:50
Speaker 1: Death is a part of life, Joe.
56:51
Speaker 4: I know.
56:52
Speaker 1: Dealing with death. Teaching kids about death.
56:54
Speaker 2: Sure.
56:54
Speaker 1: That's why Pixar movies have death in every fucking movie.
56:57
Speaker 1: So a kid can be like, oh, shit, things aren't forever.
57:00
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know.
57:01
Speaker 6: Yeah.
57:02
Speaker 1: No, this is.
57:03
Speaker 2: No, it's not good.
57:03
Speaker 1: This is scaring me for kids and future generations.
57:07
Speaker 2: I don't think we have very many future generations left
57:09
Speaker 2: of people being just normal people.
57:12
Speaker 1: I mean, I even think about dating apps as, like,
57:14
Speaker 1: you've eliminated rejectionism. Because it doesn't hurt if you're just
57:17
Speaker 1: doing this all fucking day.
57:18
Speaker 2: Right.
57:19
Speaker 1: Rejection doesn't... Okay, one of them... It's like if you
57:21
Speaker 1: had 50 lines of bait out to fish.
57:23
Speaker 3: Right.
57:24
Speaker 1: Who cares?
57:25
Speaker 2: You don't care. Right.
57:26
Speaker 1: I care if I cared about one. Okay, this one
57:29
Speaker 1: I'm focused on.
57:29
Speaker 2: It's almost like a net. It's not even, like, 50 lines.
57:31
Speaker 1: It's a net. We're shrimping, dude.
57:33
Speaker 2: We're catching dolphins accidentally. Yeah. bad it's um it's also
57:40
Speaker 2: like the threshold for being annoyed with someone must be
57:42
Speaker 2: so low if you're on those apps think about that
57:45
Speaker 2: someone annoys you a little like fuck this guy fuck
57:48
Speaker 2: her fuck.
57:49
Speaker 1: Him that's yeah pushback is good a little bit of
57:53
Speaker 1: friction is good I mean it's you say opposites.
57:54
Speaker 2: Attract right 100% and also that's.
57:57
Speaker 1: How you grow as a human yeah oh she has
57:59
Speaker 1: interests I don't have cool yeah.
58:01
Speaker 2: You get to figure out how they think like tell
58:04
Speaker 2: me what you like about this like what is the
58:06
Speaker 2: thing And then they get excited that you want to know.
58:09
Speaker 2: They'll tell you all about it.
58:11
Speaker 1: You're sharing something with someone. You're sharing your love of
58:14
Speaker 1: MMA with your wife.
58:14
Speaker 4: Yeah.
58:16
Speaker 2: Not at all? Not really.
58:17
Speaker 1: What's something you share with your wife?
58:18
Speaker 2: She does. She likes the fights. But she doesn't want
58:22
Speaker 2: to know too much about what's going on.
58:24
Speaker 1: But what's something that you share with her that you're like,
58:26
Speaker 1: this is cool?
58:27
Speaker 2: Football. She likes football. She teaches me about football. I
58:31
Speaker 2: like football. I've gone to football games with her. She
58:33
Speaker 2: enjoys football. I never really was into team sports because
58:38
Speaker 2: I was just only into combat sports when I was
58:40
Speaker 2: a kid. I literally didn't even know the rules of
58:43
Speaker 2: most sports. I played baseball when I was young and
58:47
Speaker 2: I knew that.
58:48
Speaker 1: That's my algorithm is like nineties baseball. Like a lot
58:51
Speaker 1: of my algorithms, just like Greg Maddox and Barry Bonds, like,
58:53
Speaker 1: like breaking down a matchup where Maddox was like, yeah,
58:57
Speaker 1: I went in here and Bonds is like, he shouldn't
58:59
Speaker 1: have come upstairs. Like it's a lot of that shit
59:00
Speaker 1: back and forth. I love that.
59:01
Speaker 2: I did a TV show with Bonds in the 90s
59:04
Speaker 2: before he was giant when he was like a normal-sized guy.
59:07
Speaker 1: Best player ever.
59:07
Speaker 2: Oh, he was an amazing guy.
59:09
Speaker 1: Was he a nice dude?
59:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was very nice. As a superstar baseball player,
59:13
Speaker 2: super cool. Easy to talk to. And then watched him
59:18
Speaker 2: gain 150 pounds of muscle.
59:20
Speaker 1: His head shrunk. That's how fucking big he was.
59:22
Speaker 2: It grew, right?
59:24
Speaker 1: Oh, no, I mean when he got off him.
59:25
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. What's muscle?
59:27
Speaker 1: It's muscle.
59:28
Speaker 2: And tissue.
59:29
Speaker 1: It was also the perfect ballpark for those home runs
59:31
Speaker 1: because you'd just be like, oh, I'm going to see
59:32
Speaker 1: a dude in a kayak chasing a ball. This is awesome.
59:35
Speaker 1: Every time he hit a bomb, it'd be into the fucking,
59:37
Speaker 1: into the water in SF. I never saw that. Oh,
59:40
Speaker 1: that's right. Oh, dude, those balls were worth a lot
59:42
Speaker 1: of money. People were just waiting.
59:44
Speaker 2: So were people with kayaks... You'd have to prove the
59:47
Speaker 2: provenance of that, you know? Well... You'd have to, like,
59:50
Speaker 2: literally film yourself scooping it out of the water, a market.
59:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you would.
59:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise, like, how the fuck would you know?
59:58
Speaker 1: I guess you don't know with any... How do you
1:00:00
Speaker 1: know with any memorabilia? I guess you just have to
1:00:02
Speaker 1: get authenticated, but who does that?
1:00:03
Speaker 2: I don't know.
1:00:04
Speaker 1: I guess there's card shows. They always do that stuff.
1:00:06
Speaker 1: They probably do the same type of thing for balls.
1:00:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of fake memorabilia. Two different people
1:00:10
Speaker 2: have given me Sam Kinison signed albums, and they're two
1:00:13
Speaker 2: different signatures. One of them's real and one of them's not.
1:00:19
Speaker 4: Damn.
1:00:20
Speaker 1: And you don't know which is which. Maybe you could
1:00:22
Speaker 1: find it online a bit.
1:00:23
Speaker 2: They might both be fake. Maybe.
1:00:26
Speaker 1: Damn, that is a bummer.
1:00:27
Speaker 2: It's a bummer.
1:00:28
Speaker 1: Those autographs, those pro athletes from that era, like Joe DiMaggio,
1:00:32
Speaker 1: guys of that era, that's how they made a living
1:00:33
Speaker 1: when they retired. They would just do memorabilia stuff.
1:00:36
Speaker 2: Well, don't a lot of people do that now? Like
1:00:38
Speaker 2: at Comic-Con and shit like that? They take pictures and
1:00:41
Speaker 2: sign pictures?
1:00:42
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but of that era, I think it was like,
1:00:43
Speaker 1: I mean, look at these athletes now. They're doing podcasts
1:00:46
Speaker 1: while they're playing. They're setting up post-life now.
1:00:51
Speaker 2: I find it odd, and no shade, but I find
1:00:55
Speaker 2: it odd when politicians get kicked out of office and
1:00:58
Speaker 2: then start podcasts.
1:01:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should work at like a law company or something.
1:01:04
Speaker 2: It's just weird. Yeah. Nancy Mace has a podcast now.
1:01:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Elliot Spitzer was on CNN after he got
1:01:10
Speaker 1: thrown out, remember?
1:01:11
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's right. And what did he get thrown
1:01:13
Speaker 2: out for, hookers?
1:01:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:01:14
Speaker 2: He got thrown out for hookers when he was actually.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: Campaigning against- He was a great Jewish hope. Yeah, he
1:01:19
Speaker 1: was- Because he couldn't be blackmailed because he was so rich. Oh, interesting.
1:01:23
Speaker 1: He came from so much money that no one could
1:01:24
Speaker 1: blackmail him, and then, yeah, they tailed him.
1:01:26
Speaker 2: To the- Was he the governor? What was he?
1:01:30
Speaker 1: He was, yeah, it was Governor Spitzer, wasn't it? I
1:01:33
Speaker 1: think so.
1:01:33
Speaker 2: Was he governor in New York?
1:01:34
Speaker 1: I think so.
1:01:35
Speaker 2: Apparently, everybody liked him. They thought he did a great job. Yeah,
1:01:39
Speaker 2: he was smart. He was good at it.
1:01:40
Speaker 1: He was a smart guy. Yeah.
1:01:42
Speaker 2: Except for that whole hooker thing.
1:01:44
Speaker 1: Everyone's got their thing, I guess.
1:01:46
Speaker 2: It's like we were talking about with the CEOs.
1:01:48
Speaker 1: She had a moment, too. Alexandra Dupree or whatever. Remember
1:01:51
Speaker 1: that woman?
1:01:51
Speaker 2: Oh, did she?
1:01:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like her 15 minutes. Everyone is their
1:01:54
Speaker 1: 15 minutes.
1:01:55
Speaker 2: But imagine that guy being a governor. That's a similar
1:02:02
Speaker 2: pressure valve thing. We were talking about The CEO that
1:02:05
Speaker 2: had to make the video of him sucking a dick
1:02:07
Speaker 2: and have the lady blackmail him.
1:02:08
Speaker 1: Totally.
1:02:08
Speaker 2: Fake. There's got to be something very weird.
1:02:13
Speaker 1: With politicians?
1:02:14
Speaker 2: Yes.
1:02:15
Speaker 1: Well, it's so common, right?
1:02:17
Speaker 2: Well, I think you become weird, too. I don't think
1:02:20
Speaker 2: it's as simple as you're weird to get in. I
1:02:22
Speaker 2: think you're weird to want it. You're weird to try.
1:02:25
Speaker 2: You're weird. That's why you get in the first place
1:02:27
Speaker 2: because you're willing to kind of be everything for everybody.
1:02:29
Speaker 2: And then once you get in, I think you get
1:02:31
Speaker 2: even weirder.
1:02:31
Speaker 1: I think Claptor's dangerous for anyone's ego.
1:02:34
Speaker 2: Sure.
1:02:35
Speaker 1: When you just are, every time you speak, everyone's applauding. Everyone's,
1:02:38
Speaker 1: you have all these aides, all these people are waiting
1:02:40
Speaker 1: on you. Everyone's kind of building you up as like
1:02:42
Speaker 1: this great hope. I mean, look what happened with, I mean,
1:02:45
Speaker 1: I don't know enough, but a guy like Eric Swalwell,
1:02:48
Speaker 1: you're like, this dude's ego must have been out of
1:02:50
Speaker 1: fucking control. He's a predator. He's preying on his own aides.
1:02:55
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. Well, I think there's.
1:03:01
Speaker 2: Always those guys, like JFK. There's always those guys.
1:03:04
Speaker 1: But he was aiming high.
1:03:05
Speaker 2: He was aiming high.
1:03:08
Speaker 1: He wasn't going for his AIDS. He was going for
1:03:10
Speaker 1: a fucking, I mean, he was swinging for the fences.
1:03:13
Speaker 2: Well, I think he was probably swinging below the fences,
1:03:16
Speaker 2: through the fences, over the fences.
1:03:18
Speaker 1: There was one woman who was apparently in love. There's
1:03:20
Speaker 1: a great book. Mary's Mosaic is the name of the book.
1:03:24
Speaker 1: Mary Pinchot, I think, was her name. And he was
1:03:26
Speaker 1: apparently in love with her because she was normal and
1:03:29
Speaker 1: removed from society. But for appearances, Jackie O was like
1:03:33
Speaker 1: what he needed. And there's all these conspiracies that she
1:03:37
Speaker 1: was then murdered by high forces. Yes. I mean, she
1:03:41
Speaker 1: was murdered and it was said to be a mugging.
1:03:44
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, listen, it seems a little too
1:03:47
Speaker 1: perfect that you're having an affair with John F. Kennedy
1:03:49
Speaker 1: and then you're dead.
1:03:51
Speaker 2: Well, I don't you would not want that loose string.
1:03:55
Speaker 2: Because you got to think he's probably telling her some stuff.
1:03:58
Speaker 1: I would think.
1:03:59
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:03:59
Speaker 1: If this is the person that he seemed to really love.
1:04:02
Speaker 2: The JFK one's nuts.
1:04:04
Speaker 1: That's the one that I'm like, that's kind of the
1:04:06
Speaker 1: craziest one, I think.
1:04:07
Speaker 2: It's nuts. Because still to this day. And, you know,
1:04:10
Speaker 2: we didn't even know exactly that something fishy was going
1:04:14
Speaker 2: on until the Zapruder film was released.
1:04:16
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:04:16
Speaker 2: That was released like 12 years after the actual assassination.
1:04:20
Speaker 1: It is easier to accept certain things. You know, when you,
1:04:25
Speaker 1: at least in those 12 prior years, you'd be like, yeah,
1:04:27
Speaker 1: he's got killed by a crazy person.
1:04:28
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, there's a lot of people that thought
1:04:30
Speaker 2: there was a conspiracy already. There was a ton of,
1:04:32
Speaker 2: which is always the case with everything. There's always a conspiracy.
1:04:36
Speaker 2: There's always an angle. Yeah. I'm not buying it. There's
1:04:39
Speaker 2: always people that aren't buying it. But then when you
1:04:41
Speaker 2: saw the Zapruder film, most people were like, what? Wait, what?
1:04:45
Speaker 1: Well, there's some conspiracies that even the most, you know,
1:04:48
Speaker 1: non-conspiracy persons like, I mean, like the Epstein one is
1:04:51
Speaker 1: such a, clear, like, yeah, I mean, maybe, I mean,
1:04:56
Speaker 1: even if you're completely against, like, there's no way, like
1:04:58
Speaker 1: the camera's out.
1:04:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:05:00
Speaker 1: That's got, you got to at least say maybe.
1:05:02
Speaker 2: Well, it's a very childlike position to dismiss conspiracies.
1:05:05
Speaker 1: He would have loved it.
1:05:08
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing that people do. Oh, there's no conspiracies.
1:05:11
Speaker 2: Most people, it's just incompetent people and people try to
1:05:14
Speaker 2: draw lines and make conclusions. Like, no, it's actually a
1:05:18
Speaker 2: federal crime. It's part of what's like you can get
1:05:21
Speaker 2: charged with conspiracy. Yeah. It's because it's real because people conspire.
1:05:25
Speaker 2: It's like the idea that they wouldn't, especially when enormous
1:05:29
Speaker 2: amounts of money are on the line or you're trying
1:05:31
Speaker 2: to kill the president. I bet killing the president is
1:05:34
Speaker 2: probably pretty fucking complicated. You got to find out where
1:05:36
Speaker 2: he's going to be.
1:05:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:05:38
Speaker 2: You got to find out who his secret service is.
1:05:40
Speaker 1: You got to really hate the guy.
1:05:41
Speaker 2: I really hate the guy. Wow.
1:05:44
Speaker 1: Kennedy and the CIA. Look at the history. They don't
1:05:46
Speaker 1: fucking like each other at all.
1:05:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:05:48
Speaker 1: You know.
1:05:49
Speaker 2: My friend Evan, he was a ranger in Green Beret,
1:05:52
Speaker 2: and he has this take on it that he thinks
1:05:54
Speaker 2: is different. He thinks it could have been the guys
1:05:58
Speaker 2: from Bay of Pigs.
1:05:59
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:06:00
Speaker 2: Because he goes, those guys, like a lot of people
1:06:03
Speaker 2: died that didn't have to die. Right. And they died
1:06:05
Speaker 2: because Kennedy wouldn't allow air support. Because Kennedy was read
1:06:10
Speaker 2: in on this whole operation late, and they sort of
1:06:13
Speaker 2: like said, this is what we're going to do. And
1:06:15
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not allowing that. And so they went
1:06:18
Speaker 2: in without the air support that they thought they were
1:06:20
Speaker 2: going to have.
1:06:21
Speaker 1: And it was a disaster.
1:06:22
Speaker 2: And a bunch of people died. And his position is
1:06:24
Speaker 2: that a lot of those people could want him dead.
1:06:27
Speaker 1: Because they were made to look pretty fucking bad.
1:06:30
Speaker 2: And then there's a bunch of other people, the CIA.
1:06:32
Speaker 2: And then I think there's also the angle that the
1:06:35
Speaker 2: Israelis were trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And then they
1:06:38
Speaker 2: had gotten nuclear weapons. And then he did, you know,
1:06:41
Speaker 2: like they're not technically supposed to have nuclear weapons.
1:06:44
Speaker 1: There's a lot of weird loose ends there. jack ruby
1:06:48
Speaker 1: is a weird character a guy who didn't like oh
1:06:51
Speaker 1: you just got a heart of gold you're just gonna
1:06:53
Speaker 1: kill this guy there's a lot of loose ends that
1:06:55
Speaker 1: are yeah.
1:06:57
Speaker 2: Well you know the mk ultra jack ruby connection too
1:06:59
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah jolly west the guy who ran mk
1:07:03
Speaker 2: ultra visits jack ruby in prison and jack ruby goes
1:07:06
Speaker 2: insane in jail.
1:07:08
Speaker 1: Not to mention he had a lot of yeah there
1:07:10
Speaker 1: was a lot of weird things about uh Lee Harvey Oswald.
1:07:15
Speaker 1: There's so many... Yeah.
1:07:17
Speaker 2: Lee Harvey Oswald just jets off to Russia for a
1:07:20
Speaker 2: little bit, comes back, and everyone's cool with it.
1:07:22
Speaker 1: And had more money than he should have had when
1:07:24
Speaker 1: he was over there. None of it really made sense.
1:07:27
Speaker 2: No, there's a bunch of those guys. Yeah. Yeah, it's
1:07:30
Speaker 2: all like... You know, the idea that Lee Harvey Oswald
1:07:34
Speaker 2: acted alone, to me, seems silly. But the idea that
1:07:37
Speaker 2: he was innocent also seems silly.
1:07:39
Speaker 1: That's why it's a good conspiracy, because, you know, but.
1:07:44
Speaker 2: He's a little too calm when he gets arrested and
1:07:46
Speaker 2: he says, I'm a patsy. That's a little too calm.
1:07:50
Speaker 1: I didn't care for the delivery either.
1:07:51
Speaker 2: I didn't like it. Yeah, I don't like it.
1:07:53
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
1:07:53
Speaker 2: I was like, why are you so relaxed? They're accusing
1:07:57
Speaker 2: you of shooting the president of the United States. He's like,
1:07:59
Speaker 2: I'm just a patsy. Why are you saying it like that?
1:08:02
Speaker 2: You should be freaking out.
1:08:04
Speaker 1: What a weird moment.
1:08:04
Speaker 2: If you didn't shoot the president.
1:08:06
Speaker 1: What a weird moment for LBJ, who is now in power.
1:08:11
Speaker 1: To be sworn in in that way is... pretty mental
1:08:15
Speaker 1: and then to go and then you're president for Vietnam
1:08:18
Speaker 1: and all these crazy things that come next I mean wild.
1:08:22
Speaker 4: Fucking completely when they first arrested him was he arrested
1:08:25
Speaker 4: for killing JFK like right away or was it for
1:08:27
Speaker 4: killing the cop.
1:08:28
Speaker 2: I don't know he definitely killed a cop though.
1:08:30
Speaker 4: Because I heard that not too long ago.
1:08:32
Speaker 2: Tippett stopped Lee Harvey Oswald while on patrol according to
1:08:35
Speaker 2: the Texas Historical Commission account after a brief exchange at
1:08:38
Speaker 2: the patrol car Oswald fired multiple shots at Tippett killing
1:08:41
Speaker 2: him yeah my position is like people want it to
1:08:45
Speaker 2: be binary like Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone or Lee
1:08:49
Speaker 2: Harvey Oswald was set up I think Lee Harvey Oswald
1:08:51
Speaker 2: was in on it and.
1:08:52
Speaker 1: I think he was in on it that seems to
1:08:53
Speaker 1: make the most sense.
1:08:55
Speaker 2: But I think they wanted to set him up I
1:08:58
Speaker 2: think he was probably in on it but they set
1:09:00
Speaker 2: him up and made it seem.
1:09:01
Speaker 1: Like he was the killer. We're good with you from now.
1:09:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:09:04
Speaker 1: We got it.
1:09:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's. Yeah, I mean, I think that's
1:09:06
Speaker 2: probably what they do. They probably made you feel special.
1:09:09
Speaker 2: You're a part of this. You're really important, Lee. Great.
1:09:13
Speaker 2: You know, fuck that guy. Fuck that guy. Meanwhile, he's
1:09:16
Speaker 2: getting set up.
1:09:17
Speaker 1: Totally.
1:09:17
Speaker 2: I mean, it's totally, that's what they would do. That's
1:09:20
Speaker 2: how they would do it. See if you can find
1:09:22
Speaker 2: the video of him saying, I'm just a patsy. Cause
1:09:27
Speaker 2: this video has always driven me crazy. Cause imagine if
1:09:30
Speaker 2: you were completely innocent, just hanging out at the school
1:09:33
Speaker 2: book depository, just looking at some books or whatever.
1:09:35
Speaker 1: With my rifle.
1:09:36
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:09:36
Speaker 1: Just chilling.
1:09:37
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:09:38
Speaker 2: I don't even think he was in the window. I
1:09:42
Speaker 2: don't think he.
1:09:42
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been down there. That area is so...
1:09:45
Speaker 1: It's so jarring to be in. You're like, well, this
1:09:46
Speaker 1: is right... Yeah, you're in the middle of the street.
1:09:48
Speaker 1: This is where it happened.
1:09:48
Speaker 2: It's way smaller than you think.
1:09:50
Speaker 1: Exactly.
1:09:50
Speaker 2: That's what's weird. You're like, who allowed this? You know
1:09:55
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Unless you wanted the guy to die,
1:09:57
Speaker 2: who put him in a fucking convertible and put him
1:09:59
Speaker 2: through this area where you have to go slow?
1:10:01
Speaker 1: Not to mention, apparently, the reason... he didn't go down.
1:10:05
Speaker 1: I think this is, I'm pretty sure this is true
1:10:07
Speaker 1: is his back was so fucked up. JFK from back problems.
1:10:10
Speaker 1: He had probably from fucking all these women and he's
1:10:13
Speaker 1: in a back brace and he doesn't go down all immediately. So,
1:10:16
Speaker 1: you know, maybe if he gets the bullet hits him
1:10:17
Speaker 1: and he goes down, maybe he.
1:10:18
Speaker 2: Had like a spinal degeneration disease. I think, I think
1:10:22
Speaker 2: it was like something very serious. Like he was in
1:10:24
Speaker 2: constant pain. He had to wear a back brace.
1:10:27
Speaker 1: And, uh, I don't think men of that era did
1:10:29
Speaker 1: exercise in the same way.
1:10:31
Speaker 2: Other than that, but I think he had like a
1:10:32
Speaker 2: legitimate like medical issue.
1:10:34
Speaker 1: Probably.
1:10:35
Speaker 2: Which, you know, who knows? He could have gotten from
1:10:37
Speaker 2: the war. Here, Lee Harbaugh. Lee Harvey.
1:10:41
Speaker 1: I'd like some legal representation, but these police officers have
1:10:44
Speaker 1: not allowed me to have any.
1:10:47
Speaker 4: I don't know what this is all about.
1:10:49
Speaker 2: I work in that building.
1:10:52
Speaker 1: Naturally, if I work in that building, yes, sir. No,
1:10:56
Speaker 1: they're taking me in because of the fact that I
1:10:59
Speaker 1: live in the Soviet Union. I'm just a posse.
1:11:11
Speaker 2: Little too calm. Little too calm.
1:11:14
Speaker 1: He's pretty chill, yeah.
1:11:15
Speaker 2: Little too calm for my mind.
1:11:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely a chill, like, the whole thing.
1:11:17
Speaker 2: I work in the building. Naturally, I was there.
1:11:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy Stewart.
1:11:22
Speaker 2: Jesus.
1:11:23
Speaker 4: Don't mention that copy, either. What about the copy you
1:11:25
Speaker 4: just shot?
1:11:26
Speaker 1: I think if it were me, I'd like to think
1:11:27
Speaker 1: I'd be, like, losing it.
1:11:29
Speaker 2: Exactly. You'd be freaking the fuck out.
1:11:30
Speaker 1: This is crazy. Like, think about how mad you are
1:11:32
Speaker 1: when there's a flight delay.
1:11:34
Speaker 2: Well, he's also, he's probably some sort of an agent. Period. Period.
1:11:39
Speaker 2: I mean, just the fact that he was able to
1:11:41
Speaker 2: go to the Soviet Union, marry a Russian woman, come
1:11:43
Speaker 2: back to the United States. Is that even real?
1:11:46
Speaker 4: Someone has written that up, too. You can see him
1:11:49
Speaker 4: saying almost everything else.
1:11:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's covered when he says that.
1:11:52
Speaker 1: That sounds so different.
1:11:55
Speaker 2: Wow, it really did.
1:11:56
Speaker 1: Not 100%, but it's different.
1:11:58
Speaker 3: Perhaps.
1:11:59
Speaker 1: The cadence is different, too. Yeah, it's a little different.
1:12:03
Speaker 2: Perhaps. But, I mean, he said they're taking me in
1:12:20
Speaker 2: because I worked in the Soviet Union. Wasn't he involved
1:12:24
Speaker 2: with something to do with communism as well, not just
1:12:28
Speaker 2: in the Soviet Union, perhaps in Cuba? Maybe somewhere else.
1:12:33
Speaker 1: I thought he was in Japan or something. No, maybe
1:12:35
Speaker 1: not Japan. He was somewhere else aside from the Soviet Union, though,
1:12:38
Speaker 1: wasn't he?
1:12:39
Speaker 4: I don't know.
1:12:40
Speaker 2: Somewhere else.
1:12:41
Speaker 4: He formed a local branch of the Fair Play for
1:12:44
Speaker 4: Cuba committee.
1:12:45
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
1:12:46
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:12:47
Speaker 2: I think he was an agent. That's what I think.
1:12:50
Speaker 2: I think that guy was CIA. And I think that's
1:12:53
Speaker 2: why they allowed him or whatever. Fill in the other
1:12:55
Speaker 2: the blank, whatever the other intelligence agency is. But he's
1:12:59
Speaker 2: just way too calm.
1:13:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:13:00
Speaker 2: That is not how you would be if someone was
1:13:02
Speaker 2: accusing you of shooting a beloved president in the fucking
1:13:05
Speaker 2: head in the middle of Dallas.
1:13:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:13:08
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be that calm.
1:13:09
Speaker 1: I would hope not.
1:13:10
Speaker 2: No, you'd be freaking out. You'd be panicking.
1:13:13
Speaker 1: But at the same time, some of these fucking people
1:13:15
Speaker 1: that come into court who are murderers or commas can be.
1:13:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:13:19
Speaker 1: I mean, some of these people, like you see someone
1:13:21
Speaker 1: like that Gilgo Beach killer come into the courtroom and
1:13:23
Speaker 1: he's pretty much just like, yeah, I did this.
1:13:25
Speaker 2: Which one's that guy?
1:13:26
Speaker 1: He was the one who strangled like 11 that they
1:13:28
Speaker 1: know of prostitutes in Long Island. He looks kind of
1:13:31
Speaker 1: like a bloated Tucker Carlson. He's huge. I don't know
1:13:34
Speaker 1: if you can find him. He's pretty scary. He's really
1:13:36
Speaker 1: scary looking. But, yeah, he killed all these women, and
1:13:39
Speaker 1: then there's, like, one prostitute who's like, I got a
1:13:41
Speaker 1: bad vibe. I didn't go in the car with him,
1:13:43
Speaker 1: and she's alive.
1:13:44
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:13:44
Speaker 1: But, yeah, look at him. He's fucking... Oh, yeah.
1:13:47
Speaker 2: He looks like Tim Dillon and Tucker Carlson with a baby.
1:13:51
Speaker 1: He's a big guy, though.
1:13:52
Speaker 4: He's, like, huge.
1:13:53
Speaker 2: He looks like a guy that would... And he had
1:13:54
Speaker 2: a wife.
1:13:54
Speaker 1: He had kids. I believe he definitely had a wife.
1:13:58
Speaker 1: I think he had kids, too, though. Yeah, and he
1:14:00
Speaker 1: was an architect or something in Midtown.
1:14:02
Speaker 2: Something normal.
1:14:03
Speaker 1: Something normal. And then, yeah, they just do this thing
1:14:05
Speaker 1: where you're just like, this is fucking crazy.
1:14:08
Speaker 2: What was his job, Jamie?
1:14:11
Speaker 1: He had a soundproof room in his home, which is
1:14:14
Speaker 1: scary as fuck.
1:14:16
Speaker 2: You hear about that guy in Philadelphia that they caught?
1:14:18
Speaker 1: No.
1:14:19
Speaker 2: Oh, that's the scariest one. The Philadelphia one's really scary.
1:14:22
Speaker 2: It's very recent. The indictment of defendant Rex Andrew.
1:14:26
Speaker 1: Architect, it says. Yeah.
1:14:28
Speaker 2: An architect. Wow. Normal job. The Philly one's nuts, dude.
1:14:32
Speaker 2: What is this? They think it might have been the
1:14:33
Speaker 2: biggest serial killer of all time. And they found, I
1:14:37
Speaker 2: think they found human remains. They definitely found videos and
1:14:39
Speaker 2: photographs of the victims at the house. Yeah.
1:14:45
Speaker 4: Over one million images have been seen. I saw one
1:14:47
Speaker 4: of the detectives talking about what he's seen, and he
1:14:49
Speaker 4: seemed like he didn't even want to talk about it.
1:14:51
Speaker 2: Alongside fake federal law enforcement credentials, a homemade chemical laboratory,
1:14:56
Speaker 2: and urns containing cremated remains.
1:14:58
Speaker 4: I think there was at least five urns they found.
1:15:00
Speaker 2: So his dad was apparently a psycho too. The dilapidated
1:15:05
Speaker 2: home was shared by 44-year-old Eugene Horsch and his late father,
1:15:09
Speaker 2: Raymond R.C. Horsch, a pornographer who died in 2025 at
1:15:14
Speaker 2: age 82. Investigator dubbed it a house of horrors after
1:15:18
Speaker 2: discovering disturbing contents inside, missing women in evidence. Authorities have
1:15:23
Speaker 2: linked seven missing women to the property, five of whom
1:15:26
Speaker 2: were feared dead After appearing unresponsive or deceased in recovered
1:15:30
Speaker 2: video files.
1:15:31
Speaker 1: This is what, I mean, like the John Wayne Gacy
1:15:33
Speaker 1: thing where he was just sticking people in the, under the.
1:15:36
Speaker 2: Under the house.
1:15:37
Speaker 1: Under the house, yeah. And his wife's like, what's the smell?
1:15:40
Speaker 1: And he was like, I don't know. He said it
1:15:41
Speaker 1: was like a rat or something, a mouse.
1:15:42
Speaker 2: Oh, God.
1:15:43
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, you're just collecting.
1:15:47
Speaker 2: But I think they think it might have been a
1:15:49
Speaker 2: fuckload of people.
1:15:51
Speaker 1: Damn.
1:15:51
Speaker 4: Damn.
1:15:52
Speaker 2: They think these guys, this guy and his dad might
1:15:56
Speaker 2: have been the biggest serial killer of all time. Because
1:15:59
Speaker 2: of all the images they have, more than one million
1:16:04
Speaker 2: digital images recovered from the home show women who are injured, unconscious,
1:16:08
Speaker 2: and possibly lifeless. But so far, no bodies have been recovered.
1:16:16
Speaker 2: How'd they catch this dude?
1:16:18
Speaker 6: We talked about it because of this. When this happened
1:16:21
Speaker 6: back in June. She had someone else's ID when they
1:16:25
Speaker 6: pulled him over.
1:16:26
Speaker 2: Okay, so Eugene Horsch was arrested in June 2026. He
1:16:30
Speaker 2: was with a woman in possession of an identification card
1:16:33
Speaker 2: with Tonzelli's name on it. Blair Tonzelli was 35 years
1:16:37
Speaker 2: old when she went missing in 2023. She was the
1:16:39
Speaker 2: first woman named in this case. So he was with
1:16:42
Speaker 2: another woman who had this lady's ID. Hold on. Scroll
1:16:48
Speaker 2: back up that lady.
1:16:49
Speaker 1: Amy McHale.
1:16:52
Speaker 2: Was 44 years old. That's her up there. Show the
1:16:55
Speaker 2: picture of her face. And that's the dad.
1:16:57
Speaker 1: Doesn't look like a warm face. Murder aside, that doesn't
1:17:01
Speaker 1: look like a guy you want to have coffee with.
1:17:02
Speaker 2: He had an eye patch sometimes, too, for some reason.
1:17:07
Speaker 2: She was last seen in 2016 shortly after news broke
1:17:10
Speaker 2: of Horsch's arrest. Her family told Action she was last
1:17:12
Speaker 2: seen at the WHU Avenue house. Mikhail had previously been
1:17:16
Speaker 2: married to R.C.
1:17:17
Speaker 1: Horsch.
1:17:19
Speaker 2: Who has also become a central figure in this case.
1:17:21
Speaker 2: So his dad and him were killing people.
1:17:24
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what was one of the craziest ones?
1:17:27
Speaker 1: You know the dating game murderer?
1:17:29
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:17:30
Speaker 1: That was a crazy one, too, because that guy was
1:17:32
Speaker 1: just on TV. There's a great book on it. I
1:17:34
Speaker 1: think it was Matt Murphy, Book of Murder, I think
1:17:36
Speaker 1: it's called. But he was the prosecutor. He's like the
1:17:39
Speaker 1: prosecutor in California who did all these cases, and he
1:17:42
Speaker 1: prosecuted the dating game murderer. And they talk about how
1:17:44
Speaker 1: he had to prosecute this guy because— It was him
1:17:48
Speaker 1: and a woman who did it together. And he had
1:17:50
Speaker 1: to be like, she had to be bad cop and
1:17:52
Speaker 1: he had to be good cop because these guys always
1:17:53
Speaker 1: want to defend themselves. So he would be like, he
1:17:56
Speaker 1: would have to buddy up to him in the courtroom. Like,
1:17:58
Speaker 1: I think this is crazy. The judge overruled you. Like,
1:18:00
Speaker 1: I'm on your side. And that would get the guy like,
1:18:03
Speaker 1: it feeds his narcissism. And that's how you break them down.
1:18:06
Speaker 1: You have to be, it must be so hard to
1:18:08
Speaker 1: be nice to these people because you hate them. You're
1:18:11
Speaker 1: disgusted by them, but you have to be like, dude,
1:18:13
Speaker 1: you and me, we're like, We're like peers. We're both
1:18:16
Speaker 1: like lawyers. Because they always do that.
1:18:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to figure out some way to manipulate
1:18:19
Speaker 2: them into talking.
1:18:21
Speaker 1: But they got him. I mean, that one was crazy.
1:18:24
Speaker 1: And I think she got away, the woman on the show.
1:18:26
Speaker 1: She got a bad vibe. There's always a couple that
1:18:29
Speaker 1: are like, it was this close and I got a
1:18:30
Speaker 1: bad vibe. But, I mean, John Wayne Gacy tied a
1:18:34
Speaker 1: guy up. Because his move was he would like, we
1:18:36
Speaker 1: should wrestle. And then he put handcuffs on you so
1:18:39
Speaker 1: you couldn't move and drug you. And he tried it
1:18:41
Speaker 1: on one guy who got out of the handcuffs. he
1:18:44
Speaker 1: slid out somehow and put it on John Wayne Gacy
1:18:46
Speaker 1: and he's just laughing like fuck.
1:18:49
Speaker 2: Debbie Harry almost got killed by Ted Bundy.
1:18:51
Speaker 1: No shit.
1:18:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was getting into his car, and she noticed
1:18:54
Speaker 2: that the car didn't have handles on the inside of
1:18:57
Speaker 2: the door. And she got some weird vibe.
1:19:00
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a weird vibe. If I got
1:19:02
Speaker 1: into an Uber and there were no handles, I'd be like,
1:19:04
Speaker 1: I'm good.
1:19:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:19:05
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
1:19:05
Speaker 2: I think that's the story. I'm pretty sure that's the story.
1:19:08
Speaker 1: I love Debbie Harry. That would suck, too.
1:19:10
Speaker 2: That would have sucked.
1:19:11
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:19:11
Speaker 2: Because I don't think she had made it yet. We
1:19:14
Speaker 2: would have lost all those songs.
1:19:15
Speaker 3: Fuck.
1:19:17
Speaker 2: And her.
1:19:18
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:19:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:19:19
Speaker 1: Call Me, though, is pretty good, though.
1:19:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, a lot of bangers, dude.
1:19:21
Speaker 1: So many bangers.
1:19:22
Speaker 2: She was amazing.
1:19:23
Speaker 1: She's still amazing.
1:19:24
Speaker 2: It's still a lot. Yeah, it's still a lot.
1:19:26
Speaker 1: But, yeah, Bundy was another one who represented himself in court.
1:19:29
Speaker 1: These guys are narcissists, among other things, of course, but
1:19:32
Speaker 1: they're fucking.
1:19:34
Speaker 2: I wonder what that is, that broken thing.
1:19:36
Speaker 1: Well, you're able to get someone's trust somehow. You get
1:19:40
Speaker 1: them in these vulnerable positions. You have some level of charm.
1:19:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:19:45
Speaker 1: So then you believe it, and then you think it
1:19:46
Speaker 1: can be used clearly in this situation as well. But
1:19:51
Speaker 1: they're not good lawyers usually, so it's a good thing.
1:19:53
Speaker 2: Generally. Yeah. Do you remember the one guy that shot
1:19:56
Speaker 2: a bunch of people on the subway or on the train,
1:19:58
Speaker 2: Long Island train, and then defended himself in court? And
1:20:01
Speaker 2: he was like literally interviewing the guy. How do you
1:20:04
Speaker 2: know that I shot? He was like, I fucking saw you.
1:20:06
Speaker 2: You shot me. Do you remember that one? No, I
1:20:09
Speaker 2: don't know. Who is that? He was insane. He was
1:20:11
Speaker 2: completely insane. And he was his own lawyer. And he
1:20:14
Speaker 2: shot a bunch of people. He had a weird accent too.
1:20:17
Speaker 2: Shot a bunch of people. I think it was on
1:20:18
Speaker 2: the Long Island Expressway.
1:20:20
Speaker 1: No shit.
1:20:20
Speaker 2: The Long Island, whatever it is, the railroad. Whatever the
1:20:24
Speaker 2: train is that people take from Long Island.
1:20:25
Speaker 1: Long Island Railroad, yeah.
1:20:26
Speaker 4: Damn.
1:20:26
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is like, I've seen some.
1:20:28
Speaker 1: Loons on that fuck. I almost got killed by it, dude.
1:20:30
Speaker 1: I'm one of those New Jersey transit, actually a crazy
1:20:33
Speaker 1: guy just fucking with me. And, uh, I'm very lucky.
1:20:36
Speaker 2: To do anything.
1:20:37
Speaker 1: I was hammered. I was a young comic and I
1:20:38
Speaker 1: was coming back from a shitty gig at like the
1:20:40
Speaker 1: catcher rising star, whatever in a Princeton horrible room. It's
1:20:45
Speaker 1: in a hotel, but I was just like grateful to
1:20:46
Speaker 1: be working. And I remember I was, you know, had
1:20:49
Speaker 1: a bottle of Buffalo trace with me. I'm like, I'll
1:20:50
Speaker 1: just get drunk on the car on the train ride back,
1:20:52
Speaker 1: you know? And some guy who looks crazy starts fucking
1:20:55
Speaker 1: with everyone on the, track while we're waiting. And I'm like, Oh,
1:20:58
Speaker 1: this guy's going to talk to me. And I made
1:21:00
Speaker 1: a bad joke or something. He was like, fuck with me.
1:21:01
Speaker 1: He's like, what do you think about immigrants? And I
1:21:03
Speaker 1: was drunk. I was just like, ah, they're ruining this country.
1:21:05
Speaker 1: It's trying to be funny. And he's like, you're a racist.
1:21:08
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's fucking around. Of course they're not.
1:21:09
Speaker 2: You know?
1:21:10
Speaker 1: And he goes, I should kill you. And I was like,
1:21:11
Speaker 1: what the fuck? So I had to hide from this
1:21:13
Speaker 1: guy on the train ride back. And he's, I see
1:21:15
Speaker 1: him looking for me on the train. It was this
1:21:17
Speaker 1: horrible moment where I'm like, what the fuck am I
1:21:19
Speaker 1: going to do? So I I'm ducking down. I see
1:21:21
Speaker 1: him come on. And I see him asking other people,
1:21:24
Speaker 1: what do you think about immigrants?
1:21:25
Speaker 2: He's just crazy.
1:21:26
Speaker 1: And then he asked the wrong guy, luckily. He asked
1:21:28
Speaker 1: some fucking tough-looking black dude. He goes, what do you
1:21:30
Speaker 1: think about immigrants? And the guy just goes, East New York, motherfucker.
1:21:34
Speaker 1: And I was like, thank God. The guy was going
1:21:36
Speaker 1: to kill him. They stopped the train. They arrested one
1:21:38
Speaker 1: of them. But I was like, this is not a
1:21:41
Speaker 1: fun ride.
1:21:42
Speaker 2: Well, if you're a psychopath, what a great place. To
1:21:46
Speaker 2: fuck with people. They're in a tube. They can't go anywhere.
1:21:48
Speaker 1: Exactly. And I remember he took his hat off at
1:21:50
Speaker 1: one point, and it was, like, half cut. It was, like, clearly, like,
1:21:53
Speaker 1: he looked insane. Something was off about him, and I
1:21:56
Speaker 1: was like, thank God that was my guardian angel, that guy.
1:22:00
Speaker 2: How many Bonneys are they associating? How many dead people
1:22:03
Speaker 2: do they think could possibly be associated with this Philadelphia thing?
1:22:08
Speaker 4: They're only up to the five missing and two others,
1:22:10
Speaker 4: I think, because they don't have any.
1:22:11
Speaker 1: Five missing?
1:22:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:22:14
Speaker 4: That remains, other than the urns. I don't know if
1:22:17
Speaker 4: they've tied them.
1:22:18
Speaker 1: To a lot. Those are amateur numbers, dude. Gilgo Beach
1:22:20
Speaker 1: was like 11, come on.
1:22:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they think it's a lot more because
1:22:23
Speaker 2: of all the images and the videos. They just don't
1:22:27
Speaker 2: know who the people are.
1:22:28
Speaker 1: They have that museum in Los Angeles, the Museum of
1:22:31
Speaker 1: Murder or Museum of Death. I think they have one
1:22:34
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, too.
1:22:35
Speaker 2: They have one like that in Vegas.
1:22:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:22:39
Speaker 2: Zach Bagans. He's got this haunted museum and it's got
1:22:42
Speaker 2: all It's got Ed Gaines stuff in there.
1:22:44
Speaker 1: They got John Wayne Gacy shoes. The clown shoes.
1:22:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:22:47
Speaker 1: It's hilarious that someone had to bid on that. You're like,
1:22:50
Speaker 1: did we get the shoes? Yeah, I secured the shoes.
1:22:53
Speaker 2: They have Jack Kevorkian's van where he killed people. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:22:56
Speaker 1: That's a big one. That's a biggie.
1:22:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the van.
1:22:59
Speaker 1: Damn.
1:22:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can step in the van.
1:23:01
Speaker 1: I don't think Kevorkian's on the same level as those guys.
1:23:03
Speaker 2: No. I didn't think so.
1:23:05
Speaker 1: He got consensual murder. Come on.
1:23:07
Speaker 2: But there's something weird about his paintings.
1:23:10
Speaker 1: No, it's not. I don't think any of it's great. Right.
1:23:13
Speaker 1: But you can't put him in the same category as
1:23:15
Speaker 1: these guys.
1:23:16
Speaker 2: No, he's killing people that want to die because they're
1:23:18
Speaker 2: terminally ill.
1:23:19
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:23:20
Speaker 2: Philadelphia House of Horrors. Having gone through roughly 30% of
1:23:23
Speaker 2: the files, investigators say in update that they have identified
1:23:26
Speaker 2: 58 people from the files.
1:23:28
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
1:23:29
Speaker 2: 10 of whom died in unrelated circumstances and many others
1:23:33
Speaker 2: who are still alive. They're still alive. Okay.
1:23:38
Speaker 4: So millions of files.
1:23:40
Speaker 2: Oh God. So, but it says 10 who died in
1:23:44
Speaker 2: unrelated circumstances and many others who are still alive. It
1:23:47
Speaker 2: doesn't say how many of those people are dead. It
1:23:50
Speaker 2: says many who are still alive.
1:23:51
Speaker 1: It's like when you get COVID, but you had like
1:23:53
Speaker 1: a heart condition already or something.
1:23:54
Speaker 2: Right. Died with COVID.
1:23:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:23:56
Speaker 2: Police have not found any bodies and caution. They cannot
1:23:58
Speaker 2: confirm any of the missing women are dead based solely
1:24:01
Speaker 2: on digital evidence. Yeah, but I think once you find
1:24:05
Speaker 2: out that a guy's killed seven of them, you might
1:24:07
Speaker 2: be able to make an inference.
1:24:10
Speaker 1: And you really only need to get them on one, right?
1:24:12
Speaker 1: That's really the case.
1:24:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they want to know.
1:24:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, of course they want to know, but I mean,
1:24:17
Speaker 1: that's like.
1:24:18
Speaker 2: What's the substance?
1:24:19
Speaker 4: I think it's big barrels of probably acid or something.
1:24:22
Speaker 1: I forgot the name of the other book.
1:24:23
Speaker 4: Built into the house is the problem.
1:24:25
Speaker 6: The description of what it is isn't just like a
1:24:28
Speaker 6: barrel laying around in the corner of the garage. It
1:24:30
Speaker 6: was like Tubes all over the place, down in the basement.
1:24:33
Speaker 1: Can you, look, I don't know what the name of
1:24:35
Speaker 1: the book is. It's by Michelle McNamara about the East
1:24:37
Speaker 1: Area Rapist. That's an incredible book. I'll Be Gone in
1:24:40
Speaker 1: the Dark or something. It's about the guy who, it's unbelievable.
1:24:45
Speaker 2: What is it about?
1:24:46
Speaker 1: It's about the East Area Rapist in San Francisco.
1:24:49
Speaker 2: What's that one?
1:24:49
Speaker 1: He was just like a huge rapist.
1:24:53
Speaker 2: So the guy, he's a pornographer who made snuff films.
1:24:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's... What is a snuff film?
1:24:59
Speaker 2: Snuff film is supposedly films where people actually die. What? Yeah.
1:25:05
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I thought it was a porn.
1:25:07
Speaker 2: Well, I think for some people it is.
1:25:09
Speaker 4: There's a fucked up movie that Nick Cage made. in
1:25:12
Speaker 4: the 90s or early 2000s called, like, 8mm.
1:25:15
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I watched it once, and I will not.
1:25:16
Speaker 1: Watch it again. Yeah, it was with De Palma, I think. Yeah, dude,
1:25:19
Speaker 1: there was an era of Hollywood where they would film you,
1:25:21
Speaker 1: Mickey Cohen and those gangsters would film you in the
1:25:24
Speaker 1: 40s doing gay shit, and they would blackmail you. So
1:25:26
Speaker 1: they tried to get all these big actors.
1:25:27
Speaker 2: Like the Humiliatrix.
1:25:28
Speaker 1: The Humiliatrix, but not, I don't think, with consent. I
1:25:31
Speaker 1: think they really, I don't think they want any part
1:25:33
Speaker 1: of that shit. And the craziest story was Lana Turner
1:25:37
Speaker 1: is dating one of these gangsters. The big movie star,
1:25:39
Speaker 1: Lana Turner, is dating one of these gangsters, John Stimpanato.
1:25:41
Speaker 1: who's abusive as fuck, like charms her, won't leave her alone,
1:25:45
Speaker 1: sending her flowers on set. Good looking gangster, works for
1:25:48
Speaker 1: Mickey Cohen, crazy guy. And to the point that like,
1:25:52
Speaker 1: she's trying to break up with him. She's filming a
1:25:53
Speaker 1: movie with Sean Connery, who at the time was like
1:25:56
Speaker 1: a nobody in the fifties. I think it's in Europe somewhere.
1:25:59
Speaker 1: And he fucks with Connery and Connery fucking duck. He
1:26:02
Speaker 1: just knocks out a fucking gangster. No fear. Didn't care.
1:26:06
Speaker 1: Guy could have killed him. And later after Jonathan Bonato
1:26:10
Speaker 1: is abusing the daughter, abusing Lana Turner, the story goes
1:26:15
Speaker 1: that she killed him, I think, or that the daughter
1:26:18
Speaker 1: killed him. But I read a book where it says
1:26:20
Speaker 1: she 100% killed him and put it on the daughter
1:26:23
Speaker 1: so she wouldn't go to prison for life. Isn't that
1:26:25
Speaker 1: a crazy story?
1:26:27
Speaker 2: She killed a gangster?
1:26:28
Speaker 1: She shot him. Yeah, well, he was abusing her for years,
1:26:32
Speaker 1: and he would have killed her probably. Dangerous dudes.
1:26:37
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of Roy DeMeo? No. So Joey
1:26:42
Speaker 2: Diaz gave me this book called Murder Machine back in
1:26:44
Speaker 2: the day. And it's this guy, Roy DeMeo, who was
1:26:48
Speaker 2: some mob guy who just started killing people for whatever reason.
1:26:54
Speaker 2: And they had an apartment upstairs above this bar. And
1:26:59
Speaker 2: they would take people into the bar. They'd take them
1:27:02
Speaker 2: upstairs to the apartment, kill them, and cut them up
1:27:03
Speaker 2: in the bathtub.
1:27:04
Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
1:27:05
Speaker 2: And he just started doing it to a lot of people.
1:27:07
Speaker 2: He started becoming really sloppy. Because no matter what, he
1:27:10
Speaker 2: didn't like the way he looked at him. Fuck this guy.
1:27:12
Speaker 2: Let's kill him. And he just got interested in just
1:27:16
Speaker 2: taking people out. The book is horrifying. Wow.
1:27:19
Speaker 1: You guys sloppy how? Anyone sloppy with getting rid of
1:27:23
Speaker 1: the remains?
1:27:23
Speaker 4: Both.
1:27:24
Speaker 2: Well, he got caught eventually. But I think one of
1:27:27
Speaker 2: the things was he just got very eager to kill people.
1:27:30
Speaker 2: So he was killing people for unreasonable reasons. You know,
1:27:33
Speaker 2: in the beginning, I think he was killing people. He
1:27:35
Speaker 2: was probably contract killing people or killing people that disrespected
1:27:38
Speaker 2: somebody or that someone, you know, they had to get
1:27:40
Speaker 2: dealt with. And then he just started killing.
1:27:42
Speaker 1: Some guys holding up the line at the deli. You're like,
1:27:44
Speaker 1: I'm going to kill that guy, too.
1:27:45
Speaker 2: The buck's nuts because you start. You got to read
1:27:48
Speaker 2: this book, dog. Like, I'm reading the book. I'm like, geez,
1:27:51
Speaker 2: I think he's playing Roy DeMeo in a movie now.
1:27:53
Speaker 1: Joey is.
1:27:54
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:27:55
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Dude, manifest.
1:27:57
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:27:57
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
1:27:58
Speaker 2: It is crazy. Yeah, he's got some, maybe I shouldn't
1:28:01
Speaker 2: have said that.
1:28:01
Speaker 1: Joey's a good actor.
1:28:02
Speaker 2: It might be like private information, but either way.
1:28:06
Speaker 1: That's exciting.
1:28:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, he's a very good actor, but that book
1:28:10
Speaker 2: is fucking terrifying. That guy, his whole thing was like,
1:28:15
Speaker 2: there was a social club, like some sort of a
1:28:17
Speaker 2: bar that was downstairs. See if you can find that story.
1:28:20
Speaker 2: Can I grab a drink?
1:28:21
Speaker 1: Is there any alcohol?
1:28:23
Speaker 4: The Gemini Lounge, this whole situation called the Gemini Method.
1:28:27
Speaker 2: Jamie, please order us two glasses with ice and a
1:28:31
Speaker 2: bottle of that Buffalo Trace.
1:28:33
Speaker 1: That almost got you killed. Dude. That was like what
1:28:37
Speaker 1: I'd look forward to at the end of the weekend
1:28:39
Speaker 1: was just... the drinks.
1:28:41
Speaker 2: The Gemini Method. 1970s progressed. DeMeo cultivated his followers into
1:28:48
Speaker 2: a crew of experienced with the process of murdering and
1:28:51
Speaker 2: dismembering victims. With the exceptions of. Killing intended to send
1:28:56
Speaker 2: a message to anyone who would hinder their criminal activities
1:28:58
Speaker 2: or murders that presented no other alternative. A set method
1:29:02
Speaker 2: of execution was established by the DiMeo crew to ensure
1:29:05
Speaker 2: the victims would be dispatched quickly and then made to disappear.
1:29:09
Speaker 2: Style of execution was dubbed the Gemini method after the
1:29:12
Speaker 2: Gemini Lounge, a bar which served as the crew's primary hangout,
1:29:16
Speaker 2: as well as a site where most of their victims
1:29:18
Speaker 2: were killed. The process of the Gemini method, as revealed
1:29:22
Speaker 2: by multiple crew members and associates who became government witnesses
1:29:25
Speaker 2: in the early 1980s, was to lure the victim through
1:29:29
Speaker 2: the side door of the lounge and into an apartment
1:29:32
Speaker 2: in the back portion of the building. At this point,
1:29:34
Speaker 2: a crew member, almost always DeMeo, according to member-turned-government witness
1:29:39
Speaker 2: Frederick DeNome, would approach with a silenced pistol in one
1:29:44
Speaker 2: hand and a towel in the other, shooting the victim
1:29:46
Speaker 2: in the head. and then wrapping the towel around the
1:29:49
Speaker 2: victim's head wound like a turban to staunch the blood flow.
1:29:52
Speaker 2: Immediately afterward, another member of the crew, originally Rosenberg, would
1:29:56
Speaker 2: stab the victim in the heart to prevent more blood
1:29:58
Speaker 2: from pumping out of the gunshot wound. Wow, they had
1:30:00
Speaker 2: a method. By then, the victim would be dead, at
1:30:04
Speaker 2: which point the body would be stripped of clothing and
1:30:06
Speaker 2: dragged into a bathroom where the remaining blood drained out
1:30:10
Speaker 2: or congealed within the body. This was to eliminate the
1:30:13
Speaker 2: messiness of the next step when crew members would place
1:30:17
Speaker 2: the body into plastic sheets laid out in the main
1:30:20
Speaker 2: room and proceed to dismember it. cutting off the arms, legs,
1:30:24
Speaker 2: and head.
1:30:25
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of work.
1:30:27
Speaker 2: Following dismemberment, the body parts would then be put into bags,
1:30:30
Speaker 2: placed in cardboard boxes, and sent to the Fountain Avenue
1:30:33
Speaker 2: landfill in Brooklyn. So many tons of garbage were dropped
1:30:37
Speaker 2: each day at the landfill that it would be nearly
1:30:39
Speaker 2: impossible for the bodies to be discovered. During the initial
1:30:42
Speaker 2: stages of an early 1980s investigation targeting DeMeo crew, a
1:30:45
Speaker 2: plan by authorities to excavate sections of the dump to
1:30:49
Speaker 2: locate remains was aborted when it was deemed too costly
1:30:53
Speaker 2: and unlikely to locate any meaningful evidence. The landfill opposite
1:30:57
Speaker 2: the Starrett City apartment complex in East New York was
1:31:01
Speaker 2: closed in 1985, capped over, and converted into parkland. There's
1:31:05
Speaker 2: a park there where there's dead people dismembered underneath it.
1:31:10
Speaker 2: Some victims were killed in other ways for varying reasons.
1:31:13
Speaker 2: At times, suspected informants or those who committed an act
1:31:16
Speaker 2: of disrespect against a member of the crew or their
1:31:18
Speaker 2: superiors had their bodies left in the streets to serve
1:31:21
Speaker 2: as a message and a warning. How many people did
1:31:23
Speaker 2: he kill? Put that into perplexity.
1:31:29
Speaker 1: It just seems like so much work to do all
1:31:30
Speaker 1: this shit.
1:31:31
Speaker 2: Like, just talk out your shit. I think he probably
1:31:34
Speaker 2: enjoyed it.
1:31:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, clearly, but it's just.
1:31:35
Speaker 2: Look at that list of people.
1:31:37
Speaker 1: That's your whole day.
1:31:37
Speaker 2: Bro, look at that list.
1:31:38
Speaker 1: Between killing and disposing, that's got to be, what, four hours?
1:31:42
Speaker 2: Fun.
1:31:43
Speaker 1: How long do you think that takes?
1:31:44
Speaker 2: Talk some shit. Drink a couple drinks. Smoke a cigar.
1:31:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole process to let the blood drain.
1:31:49
Speaker 2: Hey, hang with the boys. Put another notch on the wall.
1:31:54
Speaker 2: Play that Queen song. Damn, that's a lot.
1:32:00
Speaker 1: How many of this?
1:32:01
Speaker 2: One, two, three, four, five. She started in 73. And
1:32:05
Speaker 2: he did it all the way up to.
1:32:07
Speaker 1: He didn't kill Mickey Spillane.
1:32:08
Speaker 2: No.
1:32:09
Speaker 1: Mickey Spillane's a writer.
1:32:11
Speaker 2: It's a boss. Mob boss. Irish mob boss shot five times,
1:32:15
Speaker 2: killed outside his apartment building in Woodside, Queens by DeMeo
1:32:18
Speaker 2: and Grillo as a favor to Coonan. Oh, another Irish
1:32:21
Speaker 2: mob boss. So they had the Italian mob killing the
1:32:25
Speaker 2: Irish mob.
1:32:28
Speaker 1: This is a lot of names.
1:32:29
Speaker 2: Oh, he started killing his own guys. Look at this one.
1:32:32
Speaker 2: Scroll up a little bit. Right there, Danny Grillo. A
1:32:35
Speaker 2: longtime member of the DeMeo crew was killed and dismembered
1:32:39
Speaker 2: by DeMeo, Rosenberg, and Center and Testa. for racking up
1:32:43
Speaker 2: gambling debts and falling into drug addiction. They were just
1:32:46
Speaker 2: finding reasons to kill people. Oh, he owes money. This
1:32:51
Speaker 2: piece of shit.
1:32:52
Speaker 1: Gambling debts and drugs, though, if you're in a gang,
1:32:55
Speaker 1: that's got to be a no. That's why they killed
1:32:56
Speaker 1: Chrissy in The Sopranos.
1:32:57
Speaker 2: Gary Gardine was shot and killed by Rosenberg after he
1:33:00
Speaker 2: failed to pay him back from a marijuana deal. Gardine
1:33:03
Speaker 2: was found inside the trunk of his torch car. Cocaine dealer. Shot, stabbed, dismembered.
1:33:12
Speaker 2: For being a suspected informant.
1:33:15
Speaker 1: That's a fair reason.
1:33:16
Speaker 4: Dispute over copying porn films on this guy.
1:33:18
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. He stabbed. Wow.
1:33:21
Speaker 1: Even duplicating a porno film back then probably took a while.
1:33:24
Speaker 1: You got to do two VCRs. That's a whole thing.
1:33:27
Speaker 2: In 79, I don't even think they had VCRs. Here's a.
1:33:30
Speaker 2: Todaro was shot by DeMeo and stabbed by Rosenberg after
1:33:33
Speaker 2: his nephew hired the DeMeo crew to murder him due
1:33:36
Speaker 2: to a dispute over the building in which they duplicated
1:33:39
Speaker 2: pornographic films.
1:33:41
Speaker 4: Hmm.
1:33:41
Speaker 2: Wow. Funny shot. Here's a good killing. Scott Cafaro was
1:33:47
Speaker 2: shot multiple times by a DiMeo crew at the behest
1:33:50
Speaker 2: of a rape victim's family. All right.
1:33:52
Speaker 4: We'll look at the one below it. Mistaken.
1:33:54
Speaker 2: Ragucci, a college student and door-to-door salesman, was mistaken for
1:33:57
Speaker 2: a Cuban hitman. Parked outside DiMeo's home, DiMeo chased Ragucci
1:34:02
Speaker 2: from Massapequa Park to Suffolk County and shot him seven
1:34:06
Speaker 2: times after he crashed his car.
1:34:08
Speaker 1: Goddamn.
1:34:09
Speaker 2: Whew.
1:34:11
Speaker 4: You're 18 and he thought you were a Cuban hitman?
1:34:15
Speaker 2: Look, he killed Rosenberg. Look at this. Rosenberg was shot
1:34:17
Speaker 2: and killed by DeMeo and Center to avoid a war
1:34:20
Speaker 2: with a Cuban drug cartel over a March 1979 cocaine
1:34:23
Speaker 2: ripoff murders caused by Rosenberg. So he's like killing his boys.
1:34:28
Speaker 2: The guys that he was killing people with, he killed them.
1:34:30
Speaker 2: It must be just wild. Just killed....
1:34:35
Speaker 1: This list is insane. This has gone on for two.
1:34:38
Speaker 1: This is like the NBA draft. This is that many names.
1:34:41
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
1:34:41
Speaker 1: This is like 60 names.
1:34:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he was a legitimate serial killer.
1:34:45
Speaker 1: Who's Constance Burr? Ooh, another informant.
1:34:48
Speaker 2: Yeah. Informants. There's a lot of need to get rid
1:34:53
Speaker 2: of a guy, but there's a lot of people that
1:34:55
Speaker 2: just decide, fuck this guy.
1:34:58
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:34:59
Speaker 2: Damn. That's a lot of people. I think he just
1:35:02
Speaker 2: got super comfortable with killing people. The book is insane
1:35:05
Speaker 2: because it goes in great detail about how he did
1:35:07
Speaker 2: it and what he did. And it's like, it's very, it's,
1:35:10
Speaker 2: I don't know why those, it's so disturbing because you
1:35:13
Speaker 2: know that people, thank you, sir. People are very malleable.
1:35:19
Speaker 2: You know, like you get used to, like kids get
1:35:22
Speaker 2: used to living in war zones.
1:35:24
Speaker 4: True.
1:35:24
Speaker 2: Like you, that's normal.
1:35:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you grow up, if you're like in the
1:35:27
Speaker 1: Sudan or something and you're a child soldier, I mean,
1:35:29
Speaker 1: I guess that's just your life. But cheers, bro.
1:35:30
Speaker 2: Cheers, sir.
1:35:31
Speaker 4: Cheers.
1:35:31
Speaker 2: Good to see you, my brother.
1:35:32
Speaker 1: Good to see you, dude.
1:35:32
Speaker 4: Always.
1:35:33
Speaker 1: Morbid conversation, but it is interesting.
1:35:35
Speaker 2: We'll pull out of it. We'll pull out of it
1:35:37
Speaker 2: with something good.
1:35:38
Speaker 1: Oh, that's good.
1:35:38
Speaker 2: Do you know about the lesbian bar in Massachusetts?
1:35:40
Speaker 1: Mark texted me about it. I don't know what it is.
1:35:42
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
1:35:43
Speaker 1: Are they wearing masks? They're like cosplaying or something?
1:35:46
Speaker 2: No, no, no. No, they wear COVID masks. Right.
1:35:48
Speaker 1: But what's the deal?
1:35:50
Speaker 2: So the bar, I'll give you the synopsis. So it's
1:35:53
Speaker 2: called The Last Ditch. It's this basement bar, this bar
1:35:58
Speaker 2: these lesbians run. And- they're communists. So they, they, they
1:36:02
Speaker 2: want to do it. Like if you can't pay, you
1:36:04
Speaker 2: don't have to pay. So they have a covered charge,
1:36:06
Speaker 2: but you don't have to pay if you don't have
1:36:07
Speaker 2: any money. So nobody pays. So they're going under. And so, uh,
1:36:11
Speaker 2: two of them leave and one of them enrolls in
1:36:14
Speaker 2: clown school. Okay.
1:36:16
Speaker 1: Do non-communists just drink there? Cause it's fucking free.
1:36:19
Speaker 4: No.
1:36:20
Speaker 2: Cause you have to wear a mask if you go there.
1:36:21
Speaker 2: And so they're, the thing is they're losing all their
1:36:23
Speaker 2: fucking money. And this, one of these people that runs
1:36:26
Speaker 2: one of these ladies that runs this bar is 50
1:36:27
Speaker 2: grand in the hole.
1:36:28
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:36:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:36:29
Speaker 1: Send in John Taffer, dude. It's going to make over.
1:36:32
Speaker 1: That's a good ep.
1:36:33
Speaker 2: That would be a great ep. Well, Hollywood is apparently
1:36:36
Speaker 2: very interested in this story because it became... One of
1:36:40
Speaker 2: the single biggest reasons why people subscribe to the Boston Globe.
1:36:44
Speaker 2: It was one of the biggest stories that they ever had.
1:36:46
Speaker 2: It was one of those, you got to find out
1:36:47
Speaker 2: more about it. You got to subscribe. And so they
1:36:49
Speaker 2: got like a thousand new subscriptions because of the story.
1:36:51
Speaker 2: Because it's woke taken to its final point. Because these
1:36:56
Speaker 2: people couldn't be kinder. They're communists. They're running a lesbian bar.
1:37:01
Speaker 2: And they're running out of money. They have no fucking money, right?
1:37:05
Speaker 2: And so... They consult someone like, what are we going
1:37:08
Speaker 2: to do? And they say, listen, you got to have
1:37:11
Speaker 2: one day. We have masks optional and you probably make
1:37:14
Speaker 2: more money that way. And these people go nuts. One
1:37:17
Speaker 2: of them says- Wait, the owners or the- No, the fans.
1:37:20
Speaker 2: The patrons. The patrons. One of them says- They can't
1:37:22
Speaker 2: not drink for one day? It's not just that. They
1:37:24
Speaker 2: think you're putting us in danger. One of them says
1:37:27
Speaker 2: that your building should be, I hope your building gets firebombed.
1:37:29
Speaker 2: Like they turn on- Firebombed? Dude.
1:37:32
Speaker 1: Holy shit.
1:37:33
Speaker 2: It's- Wild.
1:37:34
Speaker 1: Are there pictures of the bar? I want to see
1:37:36
Speaker 1: what this looks like.
1:37:36
Speaker 2: It's a little basement bar.
1:37:38
Speaker 1: I kind of want to go next time I'm in Boston.
1:37:40
Speaker 1: I want to check it out.
1:37:40
Speaker 2: That's what's happening. People are going there as tourists. So
1:37:46
Speaker 2: this is the bar.
1:37:46
Speaker 1: Boston's such a good bar culture, too.
1:37:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of good spots.
1:37:51
Speaker 1: Except that it closes super early. That's the only problem
1:37:53
Speaker 1: with the bars.
1:37:55
Speaker 2: So one of the signs on the door, Last Ditch
1:37:58
Speaker 2: Bar and Arts... asked visitors to wear a mask. Recently,
1:38:02
Speaker 2: the bar said it would lift its mask mandate on Saturdays.
1:38:05
Speaker 2: Just one day. Just one day. Saturdays at night, whatever.
1:38:08
Speaker 2: And not... You could still wear a mask.
1:38:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:38:11
Speaker 2: You could still wear a mask. But mask is optional.
1:38:14
Speaker 2: It's optional.
1:38:15
Speaker 1: I want to go meet a chick at a bar.
1:38:16
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck she looks like if
1:38:18
Speaker 1: she's got a mask on.
1:38:19
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think anybody's meeting anybody at this bar.
1:38:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lesbian bar.
1:38:22
Speaker 2: There are lesbians, I guess, that are meeting other lesbians. But,
1:38:24
Speaker 2: I mean, I think their whole thing is.
1:38:26
Speaker 1: Women are more down with the personalities, I guess. I
1:38:27
Speaker 1: don't know.
1:38:28
Speaker 2: I think it's also... There's a certain group of people
1:38:31
Speaker 2: that they think that if you don't wear a mask,
1:38:34
Speaker 2: you're killing people.
1:38:35
Speaker 1: But this must be a crazy small clientele, right? This
1:38:38
Speaker 1: can't be. Like, how many people are going to this shit?
1:38:40
Speaker 2: Well, amongst, like, really wildly left-wing people, masks are still
1:38:47
Speaker 2: in vogue.
1:38:48
Speaker 1: Hmm.
1:38:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know of, there's a gym. I don't want
1:38:52
Speaker 2: to say the name. I don't want to shame them.
1:38:54
Speaker 2: There's like an MMA gym. Oh, wow. That's all lesbians
1:38:58
Speaker 2: and trans people and they all wear masks. Wow.
1:39:00
Speaker 1: I'm more scared of getting punched in the face. That's wild.
1:39:04
Speaker 1: I mean, no, look, I still see people wearing them
1:39:06
Speaker 1: on flights and I'm like, hey, do whatever you want
1:39:08
Speaker 1: to do.
1:39:09
Speaker 2: Truly.
1:39:09
Speaker 1: But I just think that at this point, I couldn't wait.
1:39:13
Speaker 1: And I did it during COVID. I comply with all
1:39:15
Speaker 1: that shit, but I'm kind of like, I did my
1:39:17
Speaker 1: part and now I'm kind of like, I want to,
1:39:19
Speaker 1: I want to breathe.
1:39:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it. I even sold them on my website.
1:39:22
Speaker 2: And that's something that actually shot Sanjay Gupta brought up.
1:39:25
Speaker 2: You sell masks on your website. I go, not because
1:39:27
Speaker 2: I think they're useful. It's because people have to wear them, dude.
1:39:30
Speaker 2: They have to wear them. If you want to, if
1:39:33
Speaker 2: you want to go somewhere, they make you wear a
1:39:35
Speaker 2: fucking mask.
1:39:35
Speaker 1: Oh, I was, dude, I was doing pop-up shows during
1:39:39
Speaker 1: COVID on New York city roofs. Cause that was the
1:39:41
Speaker 1: only place you could really perform. After a while, I
1:39:43
Speaker 1: got to do a hotel room a few days a week.
1:39:44
Speaker 1: They let me do, it was really cool. But, uh,
1:39:47
Speaker 1: I was doing roofs and I was filming a special
1:39:49
Speaker 1: doing that. And I asked people, I'm like, can you
1:39:51
Speaker 1: guys just put on a mask for like 10 minutes
1:39:53
Speaker 1: so I don't get, because I was like, I thought
1:39:54
Speaker 1: people were going to come for me. If we cut
1:39:56
Speaker 1: to a crowd outdoors and they're not wearing masks. So
1:39:58
Speaker 1: we did it for like half a show and I
1:40:00
Speaker 1: was like, just do it for this. And they're all like, yeah,
1:40:01
Speaker 1: of course. But people were shaming you for that. So
1:40:04
Speaker 1: I don't, but also they didn't know. So I don't care,
1:40:07
Speaker 1: but it's also like.
1:40:08
Speaker 2: Well, there was a lot of fog. Everyone's doing Monday
1:40:11
Speaker 2: morning quarterbacking about that whole time. There was a lot
1:40:14
Speaker 2: of people that were good people. It was scary.
1:40:17
Speaker 1: It was a scary time. I mean, we didn't know
1:40:20
Speaker 1: what the fuck was happening.
1:40:22
Speaker 2: I did shows in Houston in July. So it was
1:40:26
Speaker 2: like the first shows that I had done in a
1:40:27
Speaker 2: long time. And I only did one weekend. I did
1:40:30
Speaker 2: the improv in Houston. And then I decided after I
1:40:33
Speaker 2: did it that I'm not doing it anymore because I
1:40:35
Speaker 2: felt bad. I'm like, what if I give somebody COVID?
1:40:38
Speaker 2: I'm being selfish because I want to perform. I want
1:40:40
Speaker 2: to go back to L.A. and give someone COVID. That's crazy.
1:40:43
Speaker 2: So I stopped doing it. But the whole audience had
1:40:45
Speaker 2: to wear masks.
1:40:46
Speaker 1: It was strange. I remember the first show we did
1:40:48
Speaker 1: back at Gotham and it was kind of a beautiful
1:40:51
Speaker 1: moment because clubs had been closed. And I remember Seinfeld
1:40:54
Speaker 1: wanted to go on first. So even before the host,
1:40:56
Speaker 1: he was like, this is meaningful to me. And I
1:40:57
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's kind of cool. But then I
1:40:59
Speaker 1: watch him and he's like, comedy's back. And there's like
1:41:01
Speaker 1: a big glass thing in front of him because we
1:41:03
Speaker 1: had to do that. That's what the clubs were doing.
1:41:05
Speaker 1: But I remember Jerry was like emotional. It was like
1:41:08
Speaker 1: kind of a cool moment, you know.
1:41:09
Speaker 2: The glass wall.
1:41:10
Speaker 1: Oh, the cellar did it too. Everyone did it. And,
1:41:12
Speaker 1: you know, we were just, I think they were just
1:41:13
Speaker 1: trying to be respectful to the patrons at the time,
1:41:15
Speaker 1: but the second that was gone, I was pretty happy.
1:41:18
Speaker 2: There was a period where people had to figure out
1:41:20
Speaker 2: what's okay. Totally. It's generally after someone got it. Most
1:41:25
Speaker 2: people that got it, and then they recovered, then they
1:41:27
Speaker 2: weren't scared anymore.
1:41:28
Speaker 1: Oh, they felt invincible.
1:41:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:41:30
Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to fucking brothels the second I...
1:41:32
Speaker 1: I'm good? Let me fucking pop into this orgy real quick.
1:41:35
Speaker 1: It was wild.
1:41:36
Speaker 2: No, it was.
1:41:38
Speaker 1: That was the one nice thing of being on the
1:41:39
Speaker 1: back end of getting it is that you're like, I'm fucking,
1:41:42
Speaker 1: I'm untouchable right now.
1:41:43
Speaker 2: Well, it was a good pandemic in a sense because
1:41:47
Speaker 2: it was not real, real, real deadly. It wasn't like
1:41:53
Speaker 2: the Black Plague, right?
1:41:55
Speaker 1: How about the Spanish flu? There were people, so you
1:41:58
Speaker 1: have World War I and the Spanish flu?
1:42:02
Speaker 2: Yeah. Back to back? And the Spanish flu was killing young,
1:42:04
Speaker 2: healthy people.
1:42:05
Speaker 1: Crazy.
1:42:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:42:06
Speaker 1: Who's that famous artist, Shvile? He's taking care of his wife.
1:42:10
Speaker 1: I think it was in Austria. Taking care of his wife.
1:42:13
Speaker 1: He's like 28. She has Spanish flu. He gets it
1:42:16
Speaker 1: and dies. He's fucking 28. But that's how you become
1:42:20
Speaker 1: a big artist. You die young.
1:42:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you live forever, they don't want you.
1:42:25
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck.
1:42:26
Speaker 2: Imagine if Jim Morrison was still alive. He would be
1:42:29
Speaker 2: David Lee Roth. Poor Dave.
1:42:31
Speaker 1: The weird thing about The Doors is, like, every song
1:42:34
Speaker 1: is either, like, a 10 out of 10 or a
1:42:35
Speaker 1: 1 out of 10. Right. There's no 5 out of 10s.
1:42:38
Speaker 2: Right. Well, I think they did that a lot back
1:42:40
Speaker 2: then with the albums. Like, even a lot of the
1:42:43
Speaker 2: Stone songs. There's some Stone songs, like, yikes.
1:42:45
Speaker 1: Because they're prolific.
1:42:47
Speaker 2: There's a little two. Yeah. It's like, you know, if
1:42:49
Speaker 2: you did, like, remember when Louis was doing an hour
1:42:52
Speaker 2: every year?
1:42:52
Speaker 1: But it was still great.
1:42:53
Speaker 2: It was still great.
1:42:54
Speaker 1: But it's a lot.
1:42:56
Speaker 2: It's a lot to do.
1:42:56
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he set up an unreasonable expectation for comics.
1:43:00
Speaker 1: That's why this one I waited two years. I was like,
1:43:01
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I think every year is crazy.
1:43:03
Speaker 2: I think every few years is good. It depends on
1:43:06
Speaker 2: where you're at in your life, like what you want
1:43:08
Speaker 2: to do.
1:43:09
Speaker 4: Of course.
1:43:09
Speaker 1: Sometimes, dude, I feel it all the time, like the
1:43:12
Speaker 1: stress level is dropping me and the floodgates open and
1:43:14
Speaker 1: I have. But when I'm stressed, I'm tight, I'm not creating.
1:43:17
Speaker 1: But when I was in Europe, I was like, shit's
1:43:18
Speaker 1: just coming out of me because I'm just taking walks
1:43:20
Speaker 1: and walking. you know, random cities I've never been to,
1:43:23
Speaker 1: you're opening up pathways in your brain that you're not
1:43:25
Speaker 1: used to using. So, but when I'm stressed about something
1:43:29
Speaker 1: or I'm working on other stuff, I'm, I'm not creating
1:43:31
Speaker 1: like I want to be, but yeah, it depends. Like
1:43:33
Speaker 1: Louie at that point of his career was not just
1:43:36
Speaker 1: creating standup every year, but he was writing, starring and
1:43:38
Speaker 1: editing Louie.
1:43:40
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:43:40
Speaker 1: So his, his output was unheard of.
1:43:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, his output was nuts and he was editing
1:43:44
Speaker 2: it on his fucking laptop.
1:43:46
Speaker 4: I know.
1:43:48
Speaker 2: And he liked to do it on a little one.
1:43:50
Speaker 2: He goes, I like doing it on a little one.
1:43:51
Speaker 1: That show is amazing. We watched it recently, and it's
1:43:55
Speaker 1: just like, man, he really took some big swings on it.
1:43:58
Speaker 1: I loved it.
1:43:58
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
1:43:59
Speaker 2: No, he's a fucking wizard. He's a genuine wizard.
1:44:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:44:03
Speaker 2: It's so hard to maintain that kind of a pace
1:44:06
Speaker 2: at such a crazy pace. The thing about the Stones
1:44:09
Speaker 2: and those guys, though, is they had record contracts, and
1:44:12
Speaker 2: then they had to release a record by a certain
1:44:15
Speaker 2: amount of time. And so I think they had some
1:44:17
Speaker 2: filler songs.
1:44:17
Speaker 1: Totally, dude. But then sometimes you get the best songs
1:44:20
Speaker 1: that way, right? You know the electric light orchestra story
1:44:22
Speaker 1: where they're like, we need one more song for this album.
1:44:24
Speaker 1: And he just goes to the roof and he's like, Mr.
1:44:27
Speaker 1: Blue Sky. He's looking at the blue sky and it
1:44:30
Speaker 1: hit him.
1:44:30
Speaker 2: Really?
1:44:30
Speaker 1: So that's how Blue Sky.
1:44:33
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:44:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:44:34
Speaker 1: So that's like, sometimes you get the, or that woman, fuck,
1:44:37
Speaker 1: I forgot her name. She's a really popular singer. She's
1:44:39
Speaker 1: very good. The I'm not going to write you a
1:44:42
Speaker 1: love song. Because they're like, we need a love song
1:44:44
Speaker 1: on this album. And that hit her. I'm not going
1:44:46
Speaker 1: to write you a love song.
1:44:47
Speaker 2: What song is that?
1:44:48
Speaker 1: What's her name again?
1:44:50
Speaker 3: No.
1:44:54
Speaker 1: You can just type in the lyrics. I'm sure it'll
1:44:56
Speaker 1: come up. I'm not going to write you a love.
1:44:58
Speaker 1: It's a good song.
1:44:59
Speaker 2: Is it a new song?
1:45:00
Speaker 1: No. It's like 20 years ago.
1:45:03
Speaker 2: Yes.
1:45:03
Speaker 1: Yeah. That song. So it's like you just sometimes when
1:45:07
Speaker 1: you're given a challenge, you just are like, OK, let me.
1:45:10
Speaker 1: You were talking about the set list shows before.
1:45:12
Speaker 2: Right, you need something to get you out of your head.
1:45:14
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think homework as an adult is good. When
1:45:17
Speaker 1: you're like, try this.
1:45:19
Speaker 2: Right.
1:45:20
Speaker 1: Sometimes you do a show where you need to talk
1:45:21
Speaker 1: current events. And I remember when the Comedy Cellar did
1:45:24
Speaker 1: that Comedy Central show and you had to only do
1:45:26
Speaker 1: news stories. It made me write so much topical shit.
1:45:29
Speaker 1: I love having homework.
1:45:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Anytime you have to do something, it's better.
1:45:34
Speaker 2: So many guys, when they do roast battle, they know
1:45:36
Speaker 2: they're going to battle somebody in three weeks. And so
1:45:39
Speaker 2: they really fucking write their asses off.
1:45:40
Speaker 1: But also that's like, I think it's also so much
1:45:43
Speaker 1: easier to write about someone else.
1:45:44
Speaker 2: A hundred percent.
1:45:45
Speaker 1: You know, but, uh, but yeah, it's a lot, a lot.
1:45:47
Speaker 1: I mean, you see like all these, so many comics
1:45:49
Speaker 1: are so good at that, you know?
1:45:50
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:45:50
Speaker 2: That's a style.
1:45:51
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:45:52
Speaker 2: That's a very particular style, a mean style, you know?
1:45:55
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not, I don't do it.
1:45:58
Speaker 1: But it's cool to see those old clips of Rickles.
1:46:00
Speaker 1: Cause he didn't even have to tell a joke and
1:46:01
Speaker 1: you'd be laughing. You just, it was just his vibe. Yeah.
1:46:04
Speaker 1: He'd be like, why don't you go away and not
1:46:06
Speaker 1: bother somebody? And that was funny. Just because of his,
1:46:08
Speaker 1: you know, he had the package. He had the whole package.
1:46:11
Speaker 2: He was so unique.
1:46:12
Speaker 1: And Joan Rivers, too, could insult the shit out of you,
1:46:14
Speaker 1: and it was, like, beautiful.
1:46:15
Speaker 2: Do you remember that thing he did where, I think
1:46:17
Speaker 2: it was Reagan, I think it was Reagan, where he did, like,
1:46:22
Speaker 2: essentially stand up before he introduced him?
1:46:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I've definitely seen the Dangerfield one
1:46:28
Speaker 1: with Reagan. I don't know if I know Rickles. There's
1:46:30
Speaker 1: a Dangerfield set in front of Reagan where he is,
1:46:33
Speaker 1: annihilating for like four minutes straight. And it's one of
1:46:36
Speaker 1: those where I forgot who they cut to somebody who
1:46:38
Speaker 1: just goes, wow. Cause it's like, bam, bam, bam. When
1:46:41
Speaker 1: Dangerfield's locked in, man, it's like, I, Dangerfield to me
1:46:44
Speaker 1: is like, still, I think he's like the funniest human.
1:46:46
Speaker 1: Like when you, even the bad movies still have his
1:46:48
Speaker 1: one liner. So I love in meet Wally Sparks, which
1:46:51
Speaker 1: is not a great movie, but it's, he's so funny
1:46:53
Speaker 1: in it. When he walks up to the couple on
1:46:55
Speaker 1: the dance floor, making out, he's like, you two should
1:46:57
Speaker 1: go get a room. And then he walks up to
1:46:59
Speaker 1: the fat couple dancing. He goes, you two should get
1:47:01
Speaker 1: a warehouse. Yeah.
1:47:03
Speaker 2: That's a great joke.
1:47:05
Speaker 1: All those jokes were like fucking, and oh my God,
1:47:09
Speaker 1: every joke in Back to School or Caddyshack, you're like,
1:47:11
Speaker 1: these are fucking great. These are perfect jokes.
1:47:13
Speaker 2: And he was like late 40s at the time. It
1:47:15
Speaker 2: was unheard of.
1:47:16
Speaker 1: He was not well. He did not look like a
1:47:17
Speaker 1: good late 40s either. That was like hard living.
1:47:19
Speaker 2: Partying hard, dude. I saw him perform live during his
1:47:24
Speaker 2: bathrobe era. Do you know the bathrobe era? Of course. Yeah.
1:47:27
Speaker 2: So he would go on stage with nothing but a
1:47:30
Speaker 2: bathrobe on.
1:47:30
Speaker 1: Crazy.
1:47:31
Speaker 2: Like his junk hanging out under the bathrobe, totally naked, slippers.
1:47:36
Speaker 2: And I was working. I was actually a security guard
1:47:39
Speaker 2: at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts.
1:47:41
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:47:42
Speaker 2: So I was backstage. I was one of the guys
1:47:45
Speaker 2: that was assigned to watch the door to where the
1:47:48
Speaker 2: backstage was. So I could see Dangerfield walking around with
1:47:52
Speaker 2: his bathrobe on. He's pacing.
1:47:54
Speaker 1: He's nervous.
1:47:55
Speaker 2: He's just getting ready. Yeah. But he's got a bathrobe on.
1:47:57
Speaker 2: And I remember thinking, this is crazy. This guy's got
1:47:59
Speaker 2: a bathrobe. I was 19. I was like, he's only
1:48:01
Speaker 2: got a bathrobe? And then he goes on stage with
1:48:04
Speaker 2: just a bathrobe. I was like, oh, my God. This
1:48:06
Speaker 2: is insane.
1:48:07
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
1:48:08
Speaker 2: And murdered. I mean, he laid down like 55 minutes
1:48:13
Speaker 2: of thunder. Just nonstop from the fucking beginning, from the
1:48:17
Speaker 2: moment he got off stage, on stage, it was just.
1:48:20
Speaker 1: bang, bang, bang, bang.
1:48:22
Speaker 2: And Great Woods is a pretty big place. Like, you know,
1:48:25
Speaker 2: thousands of people. I don't know how big it is.
1:48:27
Speaker 2: I think it's at least 10,000 people. It's a really
1:48:29
Speaker 2: big place. Like, big name people there.
1:48:31
Speaker 4: Like.
1:48:32
Speaker 2: Bon Jovi was there. Wow. It was that kind of,
1:48:34
Speaker 2: it was a huge place.
1:48:35
Speaker 1: Well, he had, I mean, he had so many bits.
1:48:37
Speaker 1: Those Carson appearances were, Carson just knew how to let
1:48:40
Speaker 1: him cook. He's like, all right, I'll set you up
1:48:41
Speaker 1: and I'll get the fuck out of the way. But yeah,
1:48:43
Speaker 1: when he was just one after another and you're like,
1:48:46
Speaker 1: these are great.
1:48:47
Speaker 2: If Carson loved you, it was, oh my God.
1:48:49
Speaker 1: They had a problem for a while too. They had
1:48:51
Speaker 1: an issue and then they had to work it out. Yeah,
1:48:53
Speaker 1: I think in his book, Rodney said something like he,
1:48:58
Speaker 1: I think Carson couldn't get into some club or restaurant
1:49:00
Speaker 1: or something. And Dangerfield helped out and I kind of
1:49:02
Speaker 1: smoothed over some shit they had, but like, yeah, it's
1:49:04
Speaker 1: crazy to picture maybe just one weird moment, but that's,
1:49:08
Speaker 1: thank God they smoothed it over. We get these moments
1:49:10
Speaker 1: on TV where Conan had the same thing. Conan was
1:49:14
Speaker 1: able to like with Norm, he knew how to just
1:49:16
Speaker 1: let him cook. You know, it's like certain late night
1:49:19
Speaker 1: hosts just know when you're like, okay, let me just
1:49:20
Speaker 1: feed this guy the ball.
1:49:22
Speaker 2: Right.
1:49:22
Speaker 1: It's like being a great point guard. You know, it's
1:49:24
Speaker 1: like Carson just knew he's like, oh yeah, I'll, I
1:49:27
Speaker 1: got a bad doctor, Dr. Vinny Bumbasi. He'd be like, oh, yeah,
1:49:29
Speaker 1: and just keep going. I mean, these great, great... Back
1:49:34
Speaker 1: to School to me is like, you can't be in
1:49:37
Speaker 1: a bad mood and watch that movie.
1:49:38
Speaker 2: It's a fucking phenomenal movie.
1:49:39
Speaker 1: It'll take you out. It's so fucking... Caddyshack. Caddyshack.
1:49:44
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:49:44
Speaker 1: Chevy Chase was pretty cool in that movie, too.
1:49:46
Speaker 2: Amazing.
1:49:46
Speaker 1: It was just a great movie.
1:49:47
Speaker 2: Amazing movies.
1:49:48
Speaker 1: Ted Knight, holy shit. So funny.
1:49:51
Speaker 2: Looks good on you, though. Back to School is an
1:49:53
Speaker 2: all-time classic. This is an all-time classic.
1:49:55
Speaker 1: That's probably my favorite of them.
1:49:57
Speaker 4: Interesting on the band.
1:49:58
Speaker 2: Dangerfield's manager at the time sent an angry letter to
1:50:01
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson accusing him of telling one of Dangerfield's jokes
1:50:04
Speaker 2: on air without booking or paying the comedian. Carson's reaction annoyed.
1:50:10
Speaker 2: Carson read the letter live on The Tonight Show, repeated
1:50:14
Speaker 2: the joke completely deadpan without any comedic timing, and quipped
1:50:18
Speaker 2: that if it was Dangerfield's best material, the comic was
1:50:22
Speaker 2: in trouble.
1:50:22
Speaker 1: That's not nice.
1:50:23
Speaker 2: Wow. Dangerfield felt deeply humiliated and wrote multiple apology letters
1:50:29
Speaker 2: to Carson, but received no response. Carson subsequently blacklisted him
1:50:35
Speaker 2: from the program. The Copacabana encounter, the reconciliation. Years later,
1:50:40
Speaker 2: Dangerfield was performing a sold out gig at the Copacabana
1:50:43
Speaker 2: when Carson and his entourage arrived trying to get in.
1:50:47
Speaker 2: The apology, Dangerfield personally seated them, went up to Carson
1:50:51
Speaker 2: and apologized face to face. admitting he was in the
1:50:54
Speaker 2: wrong for his manager's aggressive letter. The result, Carson appreciated
1:50:58
Speaker 2: the gesture, and within a week, Dangerfield made his triumphant
1:51:01
Speaker 2: return to The Tonight Show. He went on to make
1:51:03
Speaker 2: over 70 appearances with his rapid-fire, self-deprecating humor, frequently causing
1:51:09
Speaker 2: Carson to lose his composure and crack up on live television.
1:51:13
Speaker 2: 70 is crazy.
1:51:13
Speaker 1: Carson can be a bit of a cunt, I think.
1:51:15
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing he did to Joan Rivers as well,
1:51:17
Speaker 1: where she got a show and he's like, you're dead
1:51:20
Speaker 1: to me. I think that's not cool, man. It's power.
1:51:24
Speaker 1: It's power, but it's like.
1:51:25
Speaker 2: It's cunty power. I love.
1:51:26
Speaker 1: Obviously, I appreciate Johnny Carson. I think he's incredible, but like...
1:51:32
Speaker 1: You're building these people up. I know. I think it's pretty...
1:51:34
Speaker 1: And Joan Rivers is like.
1:51:36
Speaker 2: Also, you're the super happy, friendly, smiley guy on TV.
1:51:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was a dark dude, of course. I mean,
1:51:41
Speaker 1: all those guys... If you put out friendly and happy,
1:51:43
Speaker 1: there's a darkness. Any comic I see who's like, I'm
1:51:46
Speaker 1: your best friend. You're like, you're fucking sick. You know it's...
1:51:50
Speaker 1: Anytime I see someone who's like the warm, cuddly guy,
1:51:52
Speaker 1: I trust people who are more who are kind of
1:51:55
Speaker 1: dicks on stage. I'm like, they're getting it out.
1:51:57
Speaker 2: Like male feminists.
1:51:58
Speaker 3: Dude.
1:51:59
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean... Those little always. And like... Always.
1:52:02
Speaker 1: Most guys are just like, yeah, of course we support women.
1:52:05
Speaker 1: But then when you're like performative about it, I'm like,
1:52:08
Speaker 1: you're a fucking asshole.
1:52:09
Speaker 2: 100%.
1:52:09
Speaker 1: You want someone to say... Good for you. Thank you.
1:52:12
Speaker 2: Good for you.
1:52:13
Speaker 1: You're one of the good ones.
1:52:13
Speaker 2: Thank you for using your platform. Yeah. Thank you.
1:52:17
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:52:17
Speaker 2: Thank you for speaking truth to power.
1:52:19
Speaker 1: Anything performative. Yeah, but any of the comic who's like,
1:52:22
Speaker 1: I'm your best friend. I'm like, I know you're cheating
1:52:23
Speaker 1: your wife, dude. Don't fucking. It's so annoying. And it's like,
1:52:28
Speaker 1: and Carson, look, he had that Midwest appeal too. He
1:52:32
Speaker 1: also had a terrible mother.
1:52:33
Speaker 2: Well, him and Stern hated each other.
1:52:36
Speaker 1: Interesting.
1:52:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always thought that was odd like Stern always
1:52:38
Speaker 2: hated him.
1:52:39
Speaker 1: And talked a lot about he loves Letterman.
1:52:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the Leno thing I think was He.
1:52:48
Speaker 1: Was to the Tonight Show.
1:52:50
Speaker 2: I was a little of that but the Leno thing
1:52:53
Speaker 2: or Carson did but didn't but Howard had a thing
1:52:57
Speaker 2: with Leno too.
1:52:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think was because he got the Tonight Show
1:53:00
Speaker 1: and Letterman didn't I think.
1:53:02
Speaker 2: He was accusing him of using bits and From the
1:53:05
Speaker 2: Stern show on the Tonight Show.
1:53:07
Speaker 1: God, it's funny, that little shit.
1:53:09
Speaker 2: See, that's true.
1:53:09
Speaker 1: It will hurt. I had a comic do that to
1:53:11
Speaker 1: me once where they did a bit, and I didn't
1:53:13
Speaker 1: really care, but I was like, just don't fucking do it.
1:53:16
Speaker 2: Ooh, it's ugly. It's like it changes who you think
1:53:20
Speaker 2: they are. It changes everything, especially if you know that
1:53:23
Speaker 2: they saw you do a bit, and then they do
1:53:25
Speaker 2: a version of that.
1:53:26
Speaker 1: It's hard to write a bit. And especially if it's
1:53:29
Speaker 1: a personal one, that's when you're like, oh, come on, dude.
1:53:31
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I watched some guy the other day on
1:53:36
Speaker 2: Instagram call out some guy for a bit, and he
1:53:39
Speaker 2: showed his bit and that guy's bit, and the guy
1:53:41
Speaker 2: was like, not a comic, but he's doing comedians' bits
1:53:45
Speaker 2: in these videos and these reels.
1:53:47
Speaker 1: I used to get mad at it. Now I just
1:53:49
Speaker 1: don't give a shit. I'm just too tired to care
1:53:50
Speaker 1: about that shit. But I used to get annoyed at
1:53:53
Speaker 1: all these Instagram accounts who were just blowing up by
1:53:56
Speaker 1: using other people's content. It would annoy me, but now
1:53:58
Speaker 1: I just don't give a shit.
1:54:00
Speaker 2: Remember that one black guy that got in trouble because
1:54:02
Speaker 2: he was doing Patrice? Remember that?
1:54:04
Speaker 5: No.
1:54:04
Speaker 2: He was like really getting a following. He was a
1:54:07
Speaker 2: young guy. He was like a streamer. And he was
1:54:12
Speaker 2: really getting a following. It's weird.
1:54:13
Speaker 1: Is it a performance art? Is it a tribute band?
1:54:16
Speaker 1: It's so weird.
1:54:17
Speaker 2: He tried to play it off that way. But he
1:54:19
Speaker 2: wasn't crediting him. Like if you're going to do a
1:54:23
Speaker 2: Bill Hicks bit, you have to say, this is a
1:54:25
Speaker 2: hilarious Bill Hicks bit. Totally. Then say the bit. You
1:54:29
Speaker 2: can't just say it and say, that was a Bill
1:54:30
Speaker 2: Hicks bit.
1:54:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love shouting out some of my favorite comic
1:54:34
Speaker 1: bits all the time. Sure. Oh, God. You know who's
1:54:37
Speaker 1: got one of my favorite jokes ever? Do you know
1:54:38
Speaker 1: Adrienne Iapolucci?
1:54:39
Speaker 2: Sure.
1:54:40
Speaker 1: She's one of my favorite jokes of all time, where
1:54:42
Speaker 1: she says, my boyfriend threatened to commit suicide. And I
1:54:44
Speaker 1: was like, great, now I can't kill myself. Are people
1:54:46
Speaker 1: going to think we were in love? That's an incredible joke.
1:54:51
Speaker 1: That is such a– it's like there's not one ounce
1:54:53
Speaker 1: of fat.
1:54:54
Speaker 2: Only she could say. Totally.
1:54:56
Speaker 1: But there's not one ounce of fat.
1:54:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:54:58
Speaker 1: And it's such a deeply personal moment. You know she
1:55:00
Speaker 1: thought that like in a fight or something. I'm like, oh,
1:55:02
Speaker 1: I love it. When you feel that there's such a
1:55:04
Speaker 1: truth to it, it's so beautiful. I love a great
1:55:06
Speaker 1: joke like that. I tell it's got a million jokes
1:55:08
Speaker 1: that I'm just like jealous of.
1:55:10
Speaker 2: I think the real issue with the thieves is that
1:55:13
Speaker 2: the inclination to steal is directly opposite of the mindset
1:55:17
Speaker 2: that's required to create.
1:55:19
Speaker 1: Well, we're talking about AI, right? We're talking about, I mean,
1:55:21
Speaker 1: it's the laziness.
1:55:22
Speaker 2: Well, AI is stealing from all of us. Of course.
1:55:24
Speaker 2: It's stealing from the entire human race.
1:55:26
Speaker 1: But it's the same thing. It's like, you know, it's
1:55:28
Speaker 1: a shortcut, right? So you don't want to do the work.
1:55:31
Speaker 1: And part of the fun, part of the excitement of
1:55:33
Speaker 1: the new bit is failing and then honing it and
1:55:36
Speaker 1: getting it to where it wants to be and the excitement. But, yeah,
1:55:41
Speaker 1: I think of the jokes that, you know, you put
1:55:43
Speaker 1: in specials and you're like, well, that wasn't always a
1:55:45
Speaker 1: good joke. That's fun that it got somewhere, you know?
1:55:47
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, no, it's great when you have a bit
1:55:50
Speaker 2: that fails forever. Like, Chris Rock always talks about that bit. Like,
1:55:54
Speaker 2: I love black people. I hate N-words. Yeah. Like, that bit,
1:55:57
Speaker 2: he apparently bombed at for like a year.
1:55:59
Speaker 1: Can you imagine bombing that bit? That's not like a,
1:56:02
Speaker 1: because there's certain bits that you're like, okay, I can bomb.
1:56:04
Speaker 1: But when you're on that edge of saying something really
1:56:07
Speaker 1: fucked up and working out this really provocative bit. But,
1:56:10
Speaker 1: you know, that's why Rock is one of the best ever,
1:56:12
Speaker 1: you know?
1:56:12
Speaker 2: Well, he's more than willing to take that chance and
1:56:15
Speaker 2: walk that plank. Like, he would do that at the
1:56:17
Speaker 2: store all the time. I remember one time I brought
1:56:19
Speaker 2: him up at the store, and the audience went nuts. Obviously,
1:56:23
Speaker 2: he's there. They went crazy. And the first thing he said, relax.
1:56:26
Speaker 2: It ain't going to be that funny. Lower your expectations.
1:56:28
Speaker 1: That's what he always says.
1:56:29
Speaker 2: He's saying I'm working on some new stuff.
1:56:31
Speaker 1: I love watching him work on stuff. He's so... He's
1:56:35
Speaker 1: so funny.
1:56:35
Speaker 2: That's such a bold move, though.
1:56:37
Speaker 1: I ran into him on the street with a girl
1:56:39
Speaker 1: I'm dating. And he's so smooth. He's so good. I
1:56:42
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is Morgan. This is my girlfriend.
1:56:44
Speaker 1: He goes, I've heard so much about you. He's just
1:56:47
Speaker 1: hamming it up. And she's like, wow. I'm like, oh,
1:56:48
Speaker 1: he's the man. He really hooked me up. But he
1:56:52
Speaker 1: always says the funniest thing to me because he always
1:56:54
Speaker 1: says you young guys are on the road too much.
1:56:57
Speaker 1: You burn out. And he saw me with a with
1:57:00
Speaker 1: a rolling a duffel bag down the street once because
1:57:02
Speaker 1: we don't live that far from each other And he
1:57:03
Speaker 1: sees me rolling it and he gets just looks and
1:57:04
Speaker 1: like god damn it and he goes even LeBron has
1:57:07
Speaker 1: an offseason He always finds the most the perfect shortest
1:57:13
Speaker 1: amount of words to say he's Chris is so funny.
1:57:15
Speaker 1: It's very funny Yeah, always that's the first album. I
1:57:18
Speaker 1: got me in a stand-up was Roll with the new
1:57:22
Speaker 1: his album and I was listening to it and being
1:57:26
Speaker 1: too young to get half the jokes probably and But
1:57:28
Speaker 1: I had the CD, and I'm listening to it, and
1:57:29
Speaker 1: my mom just saw me laughing. And she's like, what
1:57:31
Speaker 1: is he laughing this hard at? And I remember putting
1:57:33
Speaker 1: the headphones on and the look of horror on my
1:57:36
Speaker 1: mom's face. But then followed, 30 seconds later, she's laughing.
1:57:40
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's incredible. That's how good
1:57:43
Speaker 1: Chris's comedy is, that he can shock you in a
1:57:45
Speaker 1: setup and then pull you back in with a punchline.
1:57:47
Speaker 2: Also, when you weren't ready for a comedy show, you
1:57:50
Speaker 2: didn't anticipate it, you didn't drive to a place and
1:57:53
Speaker 2: sit down.
1:57:53
Speaker 1: But I have a cool mom. She understands how.
1:57:58
Speaker 1: Brilliant as bits are, you know, I mean.
1:58:00
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
1:58:00
Speaker 1: It was cool. It was a cool moment for me
1:58:02
Speaker 1: to be like, oh wow, my mom thinks this is good.
1:58:04
Speaker 2: Bring the Pains, like one of the greatest specials of
1:58:06
Speaker 2: all time. Unbelievable. Of all time.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: And the next one, Bigger Than Black. I mean, I
1:58:11
Speaker 1: enjoy all this stuff.
1:58:12
Speaker 2: Those two back to back, I'll put them up against
1:58:14
Speaker 2: any special ever. I agree.
1:58:15
Speaker 1: I mean, it was crazy. And it was like, man,
1:58:19
Speaker 1: it was just provocative bit after provocative bit, but he delivered.
1:58:22
Speaker 1: It wasn't like shock for the sake of shock. I
1:58:24
Speaker 1: think of the other bit I love about How we
1:58:27
Speaker 1: need to make bullets cost $ 5, 000 because then there would
1:58:31
Speaker 1: be no innocent bystanders. That's a brilliant bit. I'd bust
1:58:37
Speaker 1: a cap in your ass if I could afford it.
1:58:39
Speaker 1: That's a great bit.
1:58:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a gang of them.
1:58:42
Speaker 1: He emptied $ 50, 000 to me. He must have done something. Great,
1:58:47
Speaker 1: great jokes. Because that's actually like those jokes that actually
1:58:50
Speaker 1: are like, oh, this actually is a good idea. Those
1:58:54
Speaker 1: ones where you're like, I know you're being funny right now,
1:58:56
Speaker 1: but that's actually really smart.
1:58:59
Speaker 2: You know who doesn't get enough credit? His brother.
1:59:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a very good comic.
1:59:02
Speaker 2: His brother, Tony, is fantastic. He doesn't get enough credit.
1:59:07
Speaker 2: For sure. When you are the brother of one of
1:59:11
Speaker 2: the greatest of all time, that's a tough spot to
1:59:13
Speaker 2: be in.
1:59:14
Speaker 1: Of course.
1:59:15
Speaker 2: But it's like, people judge him by that.
1:59:18
Speaker 1: How many baseball players do you see who have a
1:59:20
Speaker 1: brother in the major leagues? Like, think about what you
1:59:22
Speaker 1: did to get to the major leagues.
1:59:23
Speaker 2: Right.
1:59:24
Speaker 1: But it's like, you're not talking about Mike Maddox. You're
1:59:27
Speaker 1: talking about Greg Maddox, right? It's like, Mike Maddox is
1:59:29
Speaker 1: a good pitcher. Jason Giambi. There's Jeremy Giambi. You know,
1:59:34
Speaker 1: it's fucking tough. You made it to the major leagues.
1:59:36
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
1:59:37
Speaker 1: But yeah, but. It must be very, and he's got
1:59:40
Speaker 1: another brother who's a stand-up. I mean, it's very difficult.
1:59:42
Speaker 2: Is the other brother the youngest?
1:59:43
Speaker 1: He's the youngest, Jordan, yeah.
1:59:45
Speaker 2: Why not? Fuck it. What, do you want a regular job?
1:59:47
Speaker 2: It's obviously in your family. Yeah. Just do it.
1:59:50
Speaker 1: But it's so much harder. I mean, like, if your family,
1:59:53
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard.
1:59:55
Speaker 2: People have expectations.
1:59:56
Speaker 1: They don't talk about the challenges of being Frank Sinatra Jr.
1:59:58
Speaker 4: Ooh. You know?
1:59:59
Speaker 2: Or Frank Stallone.
2:00:01
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:00:01
Speaker 1: He had a song. He had that single.
2:00:04
Speaker 2: What was it?
2:00:05
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Pull it up. It's in the Travolta movie.
2:00:07
Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's what you would picture Frank Stallone singing,
2:00:11
Speaker 1: but I don't mind it, actually.
2:00:13
Speaker 2: It's fine, but his brother is in some of the
2:00:15
Speaker 2: biggest movies in the history of the universe.
2:00:17
Speaker 1: He's amazing.
2:00:19
Speaker 2: What do you do with that? You sing.
2:00:21
Speaker 1: You sing one single. He acted a little bit. I mean, look,
2:00:25
Speaker 1: Jim Belushi did a good career.
2:00:27
Speaker 2: Jim Belushi probably has the best career out of a
2:00:29
Speaker 2: famous brother. He's a good actor. Right. Yeah. Thief. Oh, yeah.
2:00:33
Speaker 2: He's done a lot of good stuff.
2:00:34
Speaker 1: He's in some really good movies.
2:00:35
Speaker 4: Frank Stallone's got a lot of hits in a bunch
2:00:36
Speaker 4: of movies.
2:00:37
Speaker 1: Far From Over. That's the one.
2:00:38
Speaker 2: Rambo. Wait a minute. Staying Alive was him?
2:00:40
Speaker 3: No.
2:00:41
Speaker 4: Not the song, but it's a song in the movie. Oh.
2:00:44
Speaker 2: I was like, what are you talking about?
2:00:46
Speaker 1: No, Far From Over is the one. That's the one
2:00:47
Speaker 1: where he's like.
2:00:48
Speaker 4: Top 10.
2:00:49
Speaker 2: Top 10. US Billboard Hot 100 featured prominently in the
2:00:52
Speaker 2: dance drama film Staying Alive in 1983. Never Gonna Give
2:00:56
Speaker 2: You Up?
2:00:58
Speaker 4: Wow.
2:00:59
Speaker 2: Take You Back. Oh, that song from Rocky Balboa, 2006.
2:01:03
Speaker 1: I like all those Rocky movies. I even like, I
2:01:06
Speaker 1: think the Creed movies were great. I really enjoyed them.
2:01:09
Speaker 1: I thought they were terrific.
2:01:10
Speaker 2: I never saw any of them.
2:01:11
Speaker 1: Dude, it's so good. The first one's amazing.
2:01:13
Speaker 2: I gave up on Rocky after the Tommy Morrison movie.
2:01:17
Speaker 1: Which one was that?
2:01:18
Speaker 2: I don't know. Four or five.
2:01:19
Speaker 1: That was five, I think. No, dude, the new Creed,
2:01:23
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan's unbelievable. And it's a great story because it's... It's...
2:01:27
Speaker 1: He's Creed's son. I mean, it's like... It makes sense
2:01:29
Speaker 1: that he'd be angry and, like, my dad fucking abandoned
2:01:32
Speaker 1: us and.
2:01:32
Speaker 2: I get it. It's great. I'm just overwhelmed.
2:01:35
Speaker 1: I get it.
2:01:35
Speaker 2: You know, you get to a certain point.
2:01:37
Speaker 1: You would love it. The first one's excellent. And they
2:01:39
Speaker 1: bring back fucking Dolph Lundgren for the second.
2:01:41
Speaker 2: Oh, really?
2:01:41
Speaker 1: He's awesome. All right, don't make me watch it. It's
2:01:43
Speaker 1: his son. It's fun. Dude, you would like the first Creed.
2:01:46
Speaker 2: Make me watch it, son of a bitch. Yeah.
2:01:48
Speaker 1: You'll... Text me and you'll be like, this is fucking good.
2:01:51
Speaker 2: Maybe. Yeah. If not, I'll never say it on the air. Yeah,
2:01:56
Speaker 2: I just like the certain... amount of movies after a
2:01:59
Speaker 2: certain point in time.
2:02:00
Speaker 1: I watch too many movies.
2:02:01
Speaker 2: That's the problem. I love.
2:02:04
Speaker 1: I still watch so fucking many movies, dude.
2:02:06
Speaker 2: You know what's fucking fantastic? What? The Gentleman. That show.
2:02:10
Speaker 1: Oh, I've heard it's good. On Netflix?
2:02:11
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:02:11
Speaker 1: I saw the movie.
2:02:13
Speaker 2: What's the movie? McConaughey. Yeah. It's fun. The same thing.
2:02:17
Speaker 2: The movie is about the same thing. This is like different...
2:02:20
Speaker 2: Pull it down. Pull it down. The movie is... Same thing.
2:02:23
Speaker 2: It's all about weed dealers. But, uh... The movie's excellent.
2:02:27
Speaker 2: The series is equally excellent, but two seasons worth of,
2:02:33
Speaker 2: you know, eight hours each.
2:02:34
Speaker 1: So it's new.
2:02:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fantastic.
2:02:38
Speaker 5: Yeah.
2:02:40
Speaker 2: And no one in there is, like, a big name.
2:02:45
Speaker 2: It's fucking great, man.
2:02:46
Speaker 1: Damn, I'm so reluctant to commit to TV shows, because
2:02:49
Speaker 1: if a movie's bad, I'm like, all right, that was
2:02:51
Speaker 1: 90 minutes and whatever, but a TV show, if I
2:02:54
Speaker 1: get roped I'm liking Slow Horses a lot. That's a
2:02:56
Speaker 1: fucking great one.
2:02:57
Speaker 2: That's a great show.
2:02:58
Speaker 1: I love that shit.
2:02:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on that now because The Gentleman I Finished.
2:03:01
Speaker 1: It's so good.
2:03:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, Slow Horses is great. Yeah, that's... Gary Oldman can
2:03:05
Speaker 2: do no wrong. I agree.
2:03:07
Speaker 1: He's so good. And it's like.
2:03:08
Speaker 2: And he varies so wildly.
2:03:10
Speaker 1: He really does.
2:03:11
Speaker 2: I mean, he was Dracula. He was the white guy
2:03:16
Speaker 2: in True Romance that thought he was black.
2:03:17
Speaker 1: That's a fucking movie.
2:03:18
Speaker 2: With the scar and the owl.
2:03:19
Speaker 1: How good is... I can't watch that scene with James
2:03:21
Speaker 1: Gandolfini beating the shit out of her. That's, like, one
2:03:23
Speaker 1: of the toughest scenes to watch. That's a hard scene. Yeah,
2:03:25
Speaker 1: that movie's unbelievable. I love True Romance. The same song
2:03:29
Speaker 1: from Badlands, that, like, that kind of cheerful score.
2:03:33
Speaker 2: Wasn't that a Tarantino script as well? That was, right?
2:03:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:03:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wrote that. Tony Scott. Which completely makes sense.
2:03:40
Speaker 1: But he said he changed the ending. Like, he made
2:03:41
Speaker 1: the ending, they were supposed to die in Tarantino's, and
2:03:44
Speaker 1: Tarantino was, like, pissed at first, but then he saw it,
2:03:46
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, that's a good ending for
2:03:48
Speaker 1: this movie. Because, you know, a director makes it their own,
2:03:50
Speaker 1: I guess, but he hated Natural Born Killers, though.
2:03:54
Speaker 2: Did he really?
2:03:55
Speaker 1: Hated it. He wrote that, too, but I guess they
2:03:57
Speaker 1: changed it so much.
2:03:58
Speaker 2: He hated it. How much shit did that guy write?
2:04:02
Speaker 1: He's written some fucking good shit.
2:04:03
Speaker 2: Bangers.
2:04:04
Speaker 1: You know what no one ever talks about either, which
2:04:06
Speaker 1: is one of his best movies, is Jackie Brown. That's
2:04:08
Speaker 1: a fucking amazing movie.
2:04:09
Speaker 2: Fucking amazing movie. No one talks about that. We were
2:04:11
Speaker 2: just talking about it the other day, the scene when
2:04:13
Speaker 2: Robert De Niro shoots Bridget Fonda.
2:04:15
Speaker 1: Shocking. Shocking shit. that's one of the best that's one
2:04:19
Speaker 1: of his because you know that movie has more heart
2:04:20
Speaker 1: than any movie he's ever made because it's like he's
2:04:23
Speaker 1: so great but that movie for some reason like you
2:04:25
Speaker 1: really care like in Pulp Fiction it's a masterpiece but
2:04:28
Speaker 1: you don't really care about the characters you really care
2:04:31
Speaker 1: about her and him like getting away with it yeah.
2:04:34
Speaker 2: No I mean I'd put him he's in my top
2:04:37
Speaker 2: two or three he might be number.
2:04:39
Speaker 1: One he doesn't miss much I mean it's like I
2:04:41
Speaker 1: loved his latest.
2:04:42
Speaker 2: One Death Proof was the only one where I was
2:04:44
Speaker 2: like I don't it.
2:04:45
Speaker 1: Wasn't my favorite But it's still a lot of time
2:04:47
Speaker 1: in Hollywood.
2:04:48
Speaker 2: It's fantastic.
2:04:48
Speaker 1: I loved it.
2:04:49
Speaker 2: It's fantastic.
2:04:50
Speaker 1: I saw it with Ari in, in a 70 millimeter
2:04:52
Speaker 1: and it was like a really fucking fun day. It
2:04:54
Speaker 1: was like a really, it's one of the, it's so
2:04:57
Speaker 1: fun to see a movie like that for the first
2:04:58
Speaker 1: time with a friend and you just turn in the
2:05:00
Speaker 1: theater and you just turn.
2:05:01
Speaker 2: To each other.
2:05:02
Speaker 1: Like, like that's the fun of going to a movie
2:05:04
Speaker 1: theater is like those moments that, yeah, no, I, that
2:05:07
Speaker 1: was incredible.
2:05:09
Speaker 2: I saw that one with Chappelle, Donnell Rawlings and, uh,
2:05:12
Speaker 2: Ian Edwards. Wow. We were the only people in the
2:05:15
Speaker 2: movie theater. We rented the theater out, so we did
2:05:18
Speaker 2: an arena, and then we left the arena and went
2:05:21
Speaker 2: to see it. They set it up for us, and
2:05:23
Speaker 2: we went there, and they just had a whole table
2:05:26
Speaker 2: full of candy. Just grab whatever candy you wanted.
2:05:27
Speaker 1: It's better than seeing Django with those fellas. That would
2:05:33
Speaker 1: have been intense. No, I was blown away by that one.
2:05:35
Speaker 1: I just thought it looked so... It's also a movie
2:05:37
Speaker 1: that's on TV all the time, and if it's on,
2:05:38
Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah, Brad Pitt, you're fucking so cool
2:05:41
Speaker 1: in this movie.
2:05:41
Speaker 2: It's also a movie where, like, wait a minute, you
2:05:44
Speaker 2: took an actual event and completely changed what happened.
2:05:47
Speaker 1: I love that.
2:05:48
Speaker 2: In an actual historical event.
2:05:49
Speaker 1: Because it's one of the most heartbreaking stories ever. Fucking
2:05:53
Speaker 1: pregnant woman you murdered.
2:05:55
Speaker 2: And you wrote pig on the wall. That's another MKUltra
2:05:58
Speaker 2: fucking deal.
2:05:59
Speaker 1: That's Manson. Yeah, that was, yeah, Roman Polanski then goes on.
2:06:05
Speaker 1: The chain of events that sets off is crazy because
2:06:09
Speaker 1: Roman Polanski is super fucked in the head after that, obviously.
2:06:14
Speaker 1: And that's why we probably get the ending of Chinatown
2:06:16
Speaker 1: that we get because of that. Because he's like, things
2:06:18
Speaker 1: don't work out. The original script isn't that.
2:06:21
Speaker 2: Oh, really?
2:06:21
Speaker 1: The ending is like, yeah, this is what happens in life.
2:06:25
Speaker 1: That's why it's a hopeless ending. Probably because of that.
2:06:29
Speaker 1: So was it worth it?
2:06:30
Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding.
2:06:31
Speaker 1: Obviously not.
2:06:31
Speaker 2: It was awful.
2:06:32
Speaker 1: But it's an amazing fucking movie, though.
2:06:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:06:37
Speaker 1: One of the most tragic. Yeah, I mean, that's why
2:06:41
Speaker 1: the ending is actually kind of emotional when she lets
2:06:43
Speaker 1: him in, because you're like, this isn't what happened.
2:06:46
Speaker 2: I forgot the ending at Chinatown. I haven't seen Chinatown
2:06:49
Speaker 2: in 20 years. At least.
2:06:51
Speaker 1: More. Maybe a top five movie ever.
2:06:53
Speaker 2: I remember I saw it in a movie theater when
2:06:55
Speaker 2: I was a little kid.
2:06:55
Speaker 1: I remember being shocked. Holy shit. How old were you?
2:06:58
Speaker 2: Oh, I was little.
2:07:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should not have been.
2:07:01
Speaker 2: No, definitely not. But I remember when he got his
2:07:03
Speaker 2: nose cut by the switchblade, I was like....
2:07:07
Speaker 1: Crazy.
2:07:07
Speaker 2: I remember when they sliced Jet. Fuck it.
2:07:08
Speaker 1: That was Polanski who sliced him.
2:07:10
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:07:10
Speaker 2: Was it? Really?
2:07:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was him.
2:07:12
Speaker 2: Wow.
2:07:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's hard to beat Nicholson in terms of cool.
2:07:16
Speaker 1: He was just the coolest.
2:07:19
Speaker 2: He did some bangers. That's for sure. That and.
2:07:22
Speaker 1: Last detail and One Flew Over Cuckoo's Nest and Easy
2:07:27
Speaker 1: Rider and Five Easy Pieces in succession is fucking insane.
2:07:29
Speaker 2: The ending of One Flew Over Cuckoo's Nest when they
2:07:32
Speaker 2: have zapped his brain out and you see him sitting
2:07:36
Speaker 2: there drooling. Isn't that the worst?
2:07:38
Speaker 1: Brutal.
2:07:38
Speaker 2: They did that to a lot of people, man.
2:07:40
Speaker 1: Beautiful fucking ending, but that's also, dude, that movie fucking,
2:07:47
Speaker 1: I saw that too young probably. But that just made you,
2:07:49
Speaker 1: that was like, oh, he's the cool guy. He wants
2:07:51
Speaker 1: to be the fucking center of attention. That's like, he's
2:07:54
Speaker 1: kind of like a comedian and all these crazy people.
2:07:57
Speaker 1: It's like, he's the center of attention. he's trying to
2:07:59
Speaker 1: lift their spirits the scene where she won't let him
2:08:01
Speaker 1: watch the world series yeah and he just goes on
2:08:03
Speaker 1: and he starts he has the votes but she won't
2:08:06
Speaker 1: let him watch because she counts the votes downstairs and
2:08:08
Speaker 1: he just starts narrating the world series as if it's
2:08:10
Speaker 1: happening on tv but it's not that's one of the
2:08:12
Speaker 1: most fucking beautiful scenes in any movie ever it's also like.
2:08:17
Speaker 2: That world of mental health institutions is so spooky because
2:08:22
Speaker 2: especially back then people could just decide you were crazy
2:08:24
Speaker 2: and keep you in.
2:08:25
Speaker 1: A place like that yeah and also that was like
2:08:28
Speaker 1: the anti-authority like every 70s movie was anti-authority and ended
2:08:33
Speaker 1: with you getting like shot in the face or murdered
2:08:34
Speaker 1: so like Network Bonnie and Clyde it's always you getting
2:08:37
Speaker 1: like murdered in the end I wonder how much.
2:08:38
Speaker 2: The CIA had to do with that like the endings
2:08:41
Speaker 2: of those films.
2:08:42
Speaker 1: All those well dude it was hopelessness right it was
2:08:44
Speaker 1: like everything's hopeless you're gonna lose they're always gonna get
2:08:47
Speaker 1: you I mean, everyone talks about this dark shit, but
2:08:49
Speaker 1: it got us some good movies.
2:08:51
Speaker 2: Who's, like, is there a movie where, like, like a
2:08:54
Speaker 2: sort of a film where the bad guy gets away
2:08:59
Speaker 2: in that era?
2:09:00
Speaker 1: The bad guy? I mean, God, probably a lot.
2:09:02
Speaker 2: Like, No Country for Old Men.
2:09:03
Speaker 1: I mean, Chinatown is one. He literally takes her away.
2:09:06
Speaker 1: He takes the girl away, the daughter that he's molested
2:09:09
Speaker 1: her mother and he's going to molest her. Like, he
2:09:11
Speaker 1: takes her away. That's how the movie ends. That's how
2:09:12
Speaker 1: the movie ends.
2:09:13
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:09:13
Speaker 1: It's like, sorry for spoilers if you haven't seen Chinatown.
2:09:15
Speaker 1: Still worth seeing. Even though you know the ending now.
2:09:18
Speaker 2: What year was that movie?
2:09:19
Speaker 1: I think 74 or something. Yeah. But it was like... Oh, dude,
2:09:23
Speaker 1: a lot of movies ended... I mean.
2:09:25
Speaker 2: So I was seven.
2:09:25
Speaker 1: I'll give you a big budget one that ended dark.
2:09:28
Speaker 1: Empire Strikes Back. Han Solo's in Carbonite. The bad guys win.
2:09:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're setting you up first.
2:09:35
Speaker 1: They're setting you up.
2:09:36
Speaker 2: But like... Dark.
2:09:37
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of that era.
2:09:39
Speaker 4: Alien, the bad guy wins.
2:09:40
Speaker 2: Alien.
2:09:40
Speaker 1: What's another one, though, that from the 70s were like.
2:09:43
Speaker 2: No, in Alien... The bad guy doesn't.
2:09:45
Speaker 4: Corporate evil wins, I guess is what it says.
2:09:47
Speaker 1: Corporate evil wins in Network, for sure. Network is.
2:09:51
Speaker 6: In the 60s through 80s, one of the films where
2:09:53
Speaker 6: the bad guy wins, and it gave me this list
2:09:55
Speaker 6: of films right here.
2:09:55
Speaker 2: Oh, Network, I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going
2:09:57
Speaker 2: to take it anymore?
2:09:58
Speaker 1: Fucking 10 out of 10 movie. That's fucking perfect. Oh,
2:10:03
Speaker 1: The Thing, that's good.
2:10:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:10:06
Speaker 1: Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
2:10:08
Speaker 2: Is this a movie where all the bad guys win?
2:10:10
Speaker 4: I get ass perplexity.
2:10:12
Speaker 1: Oh, Rosemary's Baby's.
2:10:13
Speaker 2: A good one.
2:10:14
Speaker 1: Man, I just read Zinnemann, the New York Times guy's
2:10:16
Speaker 1: book on horror movies. It's fucking great. It's called Shock Value,
2:10:20
Speaker 1: and he talks about Rosemary's Baby and all the horror
2:10:23
Speaker 1: movies of that era. It's worth a read if you
2:10:25
Speaker 1: haven't read it, but it's... Yeah, I guess... that movie,
2:10:29
Speaker 1: like that ending too, where she's like, you think the
2:10:30
Speaker 1: mom's going to kill, she's going to kill the devil.
2:10:32
Speaker 1: She just gave birth to Satan and you think she's
2:10:34
Speaker 1: going to kill the fucking baby. But instead she's like,
2:10:36
Speaker 1: this is my baby. I got to keep it.
2:10:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:10:39
Speaker 1: So, so enjoy that pro lifers.
2:10:41
Speaker 2: Rosemary's baby. There was a guy who was in Rosemary's
2:10:44
Speaker 2: baby that owned the first place that we bought that
2:10:48
Speaker 2: we were going to put the mothership at. He was
2:10:50
Speaker 2: a cult leader. He was actually an extra in Rosemary's baby.
2:10:54
Speaker 2: That was one claim to fame. Yeah. He's a very
2:10:57
Speaker 2: handsome guy. It was a, A yoga teacher who was
2:11:00
Speaker 2: a hypnotist.
2:11:01
Speaker 1: Ikram.
2:11:02
Speaker 2: Also a gay porn star.
2:11:04
Speaker 1: That's a fucking jack of all trades. Yoga, porn, fuck.
2:11:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a documentary about him. It's called Holy Hell. Damn. Yeah.
2:11:14
Speaker 1: Gay porn star and that must have been fucking scary.
2:11:17
Speaker 2: Right? I mean, what, the 60s? No, this was.
2:11:21
Speaker 2: I think he was doing gay porn in probably the
2:11:23
Speaker 2: 70s or the 80s. It had to be the 80s.
2:11:25
Speaker 2: I think the movie, Rosemary's Baby, I think was in
2:11:28
Speaker 2: the 70s. And so he was, by then, I think
2:11:32
Speaker 2: he was out of acting. He probably did porn in
2:11:35
Speaker 2: the 80s. Because he was in, it was like, what
2:11:38
Speaker 2: year was Waco? That was the 90s, right?
2:11:41
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think so.
2:11:42
Speaker 2: So by the time Waco had rolled around, the Waco tragedy,
2:11:45
Speaker 2: he was already running a cult. And so that's one
2:11:48
Speaker 2: of the reasons why he moved to Austin. He had
2:11:50
Speaker 2: a cult in West Hollywood, and the Cult Awareness Network
2:11:56
Speaker 2: was investigating him. Because after Waco, they started cracking down
2:11:58
Speaker 2: on cults. They're like, hey.
2:12:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not ending well.
2:12:01
Speaker 2: This is a problem.
2:12:01
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:12:02
Speaker 2: And so this fucking guy moved to Austin and changed
2:12:06
Speaker 2: his name. No internet back then, right? Nobody knew anything.
2:12:10
Speaker 2: Changed his name and then started this new cult out
2:12:15
Speaker 2: here and had his followers build him a theater.
2:12:19
Speaker 4: Whoa.
2:12:19
Speaker 2: And that theater is called the One World Theater.
2:12:21
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say the Paramount. I
2:12:23
Speaker 1: was like, ah!
2:12:24
Speaker 2: So this One World Theater is out like Western Austin.
2:12:28
Speaker 2: And it was for sale.
2:12:31
Speaker 1: How big is it?
2:12:31
Speaker 2: It's a big theater. I mean, not a big theater,
2:12:34
Speaker 2: not like thousands. I think probably it's seated six, five, 600. Wow.
2:12:40
Speaker 2: The balcony, not that big. Yeah, but. Yeah, good size. Cool. Decent,
2:12:44
Speaker 2: but beautiful place. Maybe even less. Maybe like four. But anyway,
2:12:48
Speaker 2: Ron White did it. And he told me, because when
2:12:51
Speaker 2: we talked about buying a place, he goes, you should
2:12:53
Speaker 2: buy this fucking theater. I did it. It's amazing. I
2:12:55
Speaker 2: fucking killed there. He's telling me about this beautiful theater.
2:12:58
Speaker 2: That was fucking beautiful. It used to be owned by
2:13:00
Speaker 2: a cult. I thought, oh, that would be hilarious. I'll
2:13:03
Speaker 2: buy a place owned by a cult. And then Adam Egan,
2:13:05
Speaker 2: after we signed papers and everything, Adam Egan calls me up.
2:13:08
Speaker 2: He goes, hey, did you see the documentary on that cult?
2:13:11
Speaker 2: And I go, oh, no. They never make documentaries on
2:13:16
Speaker 2: the cults where it worked out great.
2:13:18
Speaker 4: No.
2:13:19
Speaker 2: And this one's rough. So this one, it was like
2:13:23
Speaker 2: years into the cult. One guy in the early 2000s leaves.
2:13:27
Speaker 2: And when he leaves, he sends a mass email and
2:13:29
Speaker 2: he says, hey, this guy's been hypnotizing me and butt
2:13:32
Speaker 2: fucking me for the past 10 years.
2:13:34
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
2:13:34
Speaker 2: And then all these other people like.
2:13:36
Speaker 1: That's his way of being, I'm not gay.
2:13:37
Speaker 2: He tricked me. Yeah. He liked to fuck the straight guys.
2:13:42
Speaker 2: It was like part of his therapy. Damn. He would
2:13:44
Speaker 2: charge them for it, too.
2:13:46
Speaker 1: That's the worst part.
2:13:47
Speaker 2: The documentary's crazy. It was like 50 bucks. The documentary's crazy.
2:13:50
Speaker 1: That's a weird amount to charge.
2:13:53
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be rude. He's butt-fucking these guys.
2:13:55
Speaker 1: That's true.
2:13:56
Speaker 2: But when he confesses that this guy's been doing that
2:14:00
Speaker 2: to him, everybody else says, oh my God, he's been
2:14:02
Speaker 2: doing it to me too. Wow. And then it all
2:14:04
Speaker 2: falls apart.
2:14:05
Speaker 1: That is fucking crazy. I mean, that is... And you
2:14:07
Speaker 1: almost had that theater.
2:14:08
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I had it. I had it. I was
2:14:11
Speaker 2: under contract and everything. I had to get out of it.
2:14:12
Speaker 1: But Adam got you out of it.
2:14:13
Speaker 2: No, no, no. We got out of it because there wasn't...
2:14:16
Speaker 2: When you buttfuck people and charge them $ 50, generally they
2:14:20
Speaker 2: don't build your buildings to code. Yeah.
2:14:22
Speaker 1: You got to charge comedy tickets at least $ 52. We
2:14:24
Speaker 1: got that.
2:14:26
Speaker 2: We got out on a loophole. There was an issue.
2:14:29
Speaker 1: Damn.
2:14:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:14:30
Speaker 1: Good for you for getting out of that.
2:14:31
Speaker 2: Beautiful building, though.
2:14:32
Speaker 1: It's not like you're buying Epstein's Island and redoing it.
2:14:34
Speaker 1: Why can't you do a theater?
2:14:36
Speaker 2: Really?
2:14:37
Speaker 1: So what's going to happen with the theater now?
2:14:39
Speaker 2: Oh, they're doing something with it. I don't know. Somebody
2:14:40
Speaker 2: else owns it now. It's a beautiful place. And it's
2:14:42
Speaker 2: on a great piece of land. But it was just
2:14:44
Speaker 2: like the bad juju in that room was just too much.
2:14:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the story's rough. You don't want to
2:14:49
Speaker 1: be associated.
2:14:49
Speaker 2: We were all talking about it. Like, dude, we're going
2:14:50
Speaker 2: to have to burn sage in this place for like
2:14:52
Speaker 2: four years just to Clean out. I mean, just think
2:14:55
Speaker 2: about all these poor kids that, like, went to take
2:14:57
Speaker 2: yoga classes.
2:14:58
Speaker 1: Well, someone's buying Epstein's Island. Someone's buying his penthouse. You're
2:15:02
Speaker 1: getting a discount, but you're right.
2:15:03
Speaker 2: They've also got his ranch. He's got that ranch where there's, like,
2:15:07
Speaker 2: bodies missing.
2:15:08
Speaker 4: Oof.
2:15:08
Speaker 2: They think there might be bodies. Isn't there a search
2:15:10
Speaker 2: for bodies at the ranch? Wasn't that something recently?
2:15:13
Speaker 1: But they're going to turn that island into some sort
2:15:15
Speaker 1: of resort. I'm sure it's going to be, like, at
2:15:17
Speaker 1: a discount. I'm sure if you want to go on
2:15:18
Speaker 1: vacation with your wife and you're like, why is this
2:15:20
Speaker 1: one so cheap? Or that's going to be fucking so
2:15:23
Speaker 1: cheap or. The whiskey setting.
2:15:24
Speaker 2: Why have I seen that building before?
2:15:27
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a nice townhouse, but yeah, I wouldn't
2:15:31
Speaker 1: want it. Yeah. Once you're in that tax bracket, you know.
2:15:35
Speaker 2: That's one of the darkest things in the Epstein emails
2:15:38
Speaker 2: was the sulfuric acid. Do you know about that? They
2:15:42
Speaker 2: found out that he had, I forget how many gallons.
2:15:48
Speaker 2: I think it was something in the neighborhood of 300
2:15:52
Speaker 2: gallons of sulfuric acid.
2:15:54
Speaker 1: Holy shit.
2:15:55
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:15:56
Speaker 1: That's fucking weird.
2:15:57
Speaker 2: And he ordered the shipment, I think, after he was indicted.
2:16:03
Speaker 2: If I'm correct.
2:16:04
Speaker 4: I remember we looked it up and it had to
2:16:05
Speaker 4: do with water cleaners.
2:16:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:16:08
Speaker 4: Just to be plausible.
2:16:08
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think someone said it had to do
2:16:11
Speaker 2: with the desalination plant.
2:16:12
Speaker 1: He also seemed so stupid. You see those emails of him,
2:16:15
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, he was so persuasive and charming. And
2:16:17
Speaker 1: the emails, you're like, you seem like a fucking Neanderthal,
2:16:19
Speaker 1: the way you talk. Yeah.
2:16:22
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the other people, I think they all
2:16:24
Speaker 2: felt protected.
2:16:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was just so fucking, yeah, he probably
2:16:30
Speaker 1: felt untouchable. Yeah. you're squeezing people who are this powerful.
2:16:34
Speaker 1: You'd like, who's going to fucking come for me. I
2:16:35
Speaker 1: remember James Patterson wrote that book, like trashing him before
2:16:38
Speaker 1: all this shit went down. Cause they were neighbors in Florida.
2:16:40
Speaker 1: So we took out like a hit piece on him,
2:16:42
Speaker 1: like way back in the day. And it was a
2:16:43
Speaker 1: whole book being like, this guy's a piece of shit.
2:16:45
Speaker 2: When was this?
2:16:46
Speaker 1: Probably like the 20 teens. I mean, he had already
2:16:48
Speaker 1: been arrested for that, but it wasn't, it wasn't for.
2:16:50
Speaker 2: For statutory or whatever, but.
2:16:52
Speaker 1: It wasn't, it wasn't when it was a massive media story.
2:16:55
Speaker 1: That was the second, but they were neighbors. He's like,
2:16:57
Speaker 1: I fucking hate this guy.
2:16:58
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it boils down to one
2:17:00
Speaker 2: lady who was a reporter who chased the story down.
2:17:02
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:17:03
Speaker 2: Because I think she was outraged that he got like
2:17:05
Speaker 2: that sweetheart deal at first. Yeah.
2:17:09
Speaker 1: Fuck. That's going to be like, the crazy thing is
2:17:13
Speaker 1: that's like the story that just keeps going. It won't
2:17:15
Speaker 1: go away. And it probably won't for, think about, you're
2:17:17
Speaker 1: talking about JFK, 12 years. What are we going to
2:17:20
Speaker 1: know about Epstein in 12 years?
2:17:21
Speaker 2: What's really disturbing is how many people went and met
2:17:23
Speaker 2: him after he had already been arrested.
2:17:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
2:17:28
Speaker 2: After.
2:17:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, once you know that, you gotta not... After. You
2:17:32
Speaker 1: gotta not do that.
2:17:32
Speaker 2: Went to jail, and then they're like, let's hang out. Yeah.
2:17:36
Speaker 1: Let me email you so there's a.
2:17:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:17:38
Speaker 1: So there's a string of this forever.
2:17:39
Speaker 2: It's fucking dark, man. And then you gotta think, okay,
2:17:42
Speaker 2: we know about that one. How many of them are
2:17:44
Speaker 2: out there right now? Right. How many of these fucking
2:17:49
Speaker 2: secret places... are out there right now? Yeah. I've been
2:17:52
Speaker 2: invited to some weird shit, dude.
2:17:54
Speaker 1: Like what kind of shit?
2:17:55
Speaker 2: Weird shit.
2:17:56
Speaker 1: Like what?
2:17:56
Speaker 2: I don't want to say too much.
2:17:58
Speaker 1: Don't say the name.
2:17:59
Speaker 2: I've been invited to these like retreats where like people
2:18:03
Speaker 2: I don't know.
2:18:04
Speaker 1: Feels eyes wide shut. I've never met.
2:18:06
Speaker 2: And they invite me to... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some... Well, not...
2:18:09
Speaker 2: I don't want to say eyes wide shut, but very Illuminati-ish.
2:18:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:18:13
Speaker 2: Like, invited me to go meet with these, you know,
2:18:16
Speaker 2: people that are, like, heads of industry. And, you know,
2:18:18
Speaker 2: I remember saying, like.
2:18:19
Speaker 1: But the question is, why do they want you there?
2:18:20
Speaker 1: Because you have a platform where you can clearly... Trash
2:18:25
Speaker 1: these people.
2:18:26
Speaker 2: I think because they probably assumed that they could sweet
2:18:29
Speaker 2: talk me and do business with me and make it
2:18:33
Speaker 2: profitable for me. And so maybe I'll just like not
2:18:37
Speaker 2: talk about them perhaps. Maybe. Yeah. I've avoided every single
2:18:41
Speaker 2: one of those.
2:18:42
Speaker 1: That's very confident though.
2:18:43
Speaker 6: So New Mexico has officially launched a truth commission to
2:18:51
Speaker 6: look into what happened at Zora Ranch.
2:18:53
Speaker 4: It says here.
2:18:55
Speaker 6: A former Texas state senator is currently running for office
2:18:58
Speaker 6: as a state comptroller.
2:19:00
Speaker 4: Bought it to make it a Christian retreat, reclaiming it
2:19:02
Speaker 4: for Jesus.
2:19:03
Speaker 1: That's a perfect cover, isn't it? Someone's getting nailed to
2:19:07
Speaker 1: a cross.
2:19:08
Speaker 2: Reclaiming it for Jesus is wild. The state's Epstein Truth Commission.
2:19:15
Speaker 2: New Mexico has a truth commission for Epstein. held its
2:19:18
Speaker 2: first public meeting in February where members said that they
2:19:20
Speaker 2: would coordinate with the New Mexico Department of Justice. Rep.
2:19:26
Speaker 2: Andrea Romero chairs the commission and its other members are rep.
2:19:30
Speaker 4: They haven't found anything yet.
2:19:31
Speaker 2: They haven't found anything yet.
2:19:33
Speaker 4: This was in March 11th was the last update.
2:19:35
Speaker 2: I could find on it. I got invited to go
2:19:37
Speaker 2: to Bohemian Grove.
2:19:39
Speaker 1: What's that?
2:19:40
Speaker 2: That's that place that Alex Jones found out about. That
2:19:43
Speaker 2: people said was bullshit. It's some place in Northern California
2:19:46
Speaker 2: where a bunch of elites get together and they wear
2:19:48
Speaker 2: robes and they chant and they worship a giant owl god.
2:19:51
Speaker 1: I don't like any of this.
2:19:52
Speaker 2: I don't like any of this. Yeah, I've been invited
2:19:54
Speaker 2: to some weird shit. I've said no to every one
2:19:57
Speaker 2: of those things. I just want to be clear on
2:19:59
Speaker 2: the record. That's one thing about having made a lot
2:20:03
Speaker 2: of money. You cannot really tempt me with a lot
2:20:05
Speaker 2: of money.
2:20:06
Speaker 1: That's good.
2:20:07
Speaker 2: Not that I would be at all. I've always made
2:20:11
Speaker 2: enough money. I don't have crazy extravagant tastes. I'm not
2:20:14
Speaker 2: a guy who's, I don't wear diamonds. I don't have
2:20:17
Speaker 2: a private jet.
2:20:18
Speaker 1: Men who wear diamonds are fucking weird.
2:20:19
Speaker 2: It's odd. It's white guys. White guys who wear diamonds?
2:20:22
Speaker 2: It's very odd. I give black guys a little bit
2:20:24
Speaker 2: more slack.
2:20:25
Speaker 1: I guess so. It's all weird. It's like men who
2:20:27
Speaker 1: wear cologne. Like, what are we doing?
2:20:28
Speaker 2: Ugh.
2:20:29
Speaker 1: There's something about it I don't quite trust. I guess
2:20:32
Speaker 1: if you're European, I give a pass for that one.
2:20:34
Speaker 2: But there's something about when you start, I think it's
2:20:38
Speaker 2: probably you get invited into these things and they want
2:20:42
Speaker 2: to bring you into the fold. You're a super wealthy man.
2:20:46
Speaker 1: They want to be close to you.
2:20:48
Speaker 2: It's very odd. I've managed to keep my head above
2:20:53
Speaker 2: water and keep moving. You've got a family.
2:20:55
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of shit.
2:20:56
Speaker 2: It's not even just that. I wouldn't be interested. I
2:20:58
Speaker 2: am busy, but I wouldn't be interested in the first place.
2:21:00
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying the schedule is
2:21:02
Speaker 1: keeping you from this. I'm just saying like, it's just odd.
2:21:04
Speaker 2: I also, I don't need groups out there.
2:21:06
Speaker 1: I don't need any other shit. I don't want any
2:21:08
Speaker 1: extra curricular. I play pickup basketball with comics on Sunday
2:21:11
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like, that's all I need. I
2:21:14
Speaker 1: do the road. I do sets. What else the fuck
2:21:18
Speaker 1: do I need? I'm, I'm very happy with my life.
2:21:20
Speaker 2: I'm, I have a family, happy with the family. Everybody's great.
2:21:24
Speaker 2: I play pool. I do sets.
2:21:25
Speaker 1: You're good at pool, right? I've heard you're good.
2:21:27
Speaker 2: I'm really good, yeah. Yeah.
2:21:29
Speaker 1: I knew you were good because I remember the first time,
2:21:30
Speaker 1: one of the first times we hung out, you talked
2:21:32
Speaker 1: about how shitty Tom Cruise looked in The Color of Money.
2:21:35
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, Joe must be good. And
2:21:36
Speaker 1: I saw you hitting around like he's fucking good.
2:21:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you can't pretend that you're really good
2:21:41
Speaker 2: at pool.
2:21:41
Speaker 1: I'm terrible. I give away that I remember I did
2:21:44
Speaker 1: a Friars Club tournament early on. And I got lucky
2:21:47
Speaker 1: and I won the first one. For some reason, the
2:21:48
Speaker 1: balls went in. But I was exposed because the guy
2:21:51
Speaker 1: I was playing against was like, your form is shit.
2:21:54
Speaker 1: He's like, I know you're getting lucky. And I was.
2:21:55
Speaker 1: And I got my ass kicked.
2:21:57
Speaker 2: Well, someone who's really good, there's like a subtle way
2:22:00
Speaker 2: they hold the cue and play with the cue. It's
2:22:02
Speaker 2: like you ever see a movie where a guy's smoking
2:22:04
Speaker 2: cigarettes and you know that he doesn't really smoke cigarettes? Yeah, me.
2:22:08
Speaker 2: If you're in a movie.
2:22:09
Speaker 1: And dude, anyone, it's any sport though. If I see
2:22:12
Speaker 1: you making shots in basketball and I see you're forming
2:22:14
Speaker 1: a shit, I know you're trash.
2:22:16
Speaker 2: Of course. Or guitar playing.
2:22:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:22:18
Speaker 2: Like you're watching like that guy doesn't really know those chords.
2:22:21
Speaker 1: Totally.
2:22:21
Speaker 2: Like he's just fucking moving his fingers around. Yeah. Pretending
2:22:24
Speaker 2: he's a wizard.
2:22:25
Speaker 1: No, you easily, I mean, look, there's a few exceptions always.
2:22:28
Speaker 1: Sometimes people have a weird-ass form and it works.
2:22:30
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Definitely.
2:22:32
Speaker 1: You can usually tell.
2:22:32
Speaker 2: You know who's the best pool player ever in a movie?
2:22:35
Speaker 2: Jackie Gleason.
2:22:36
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite movies, The Hustler.
2:22:38
Speaker 2: It's a great movie.
2:22:38
Speaker 1: Bro, that's, you know, we talk about dark endings.
2:22:41
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
2:22:42
Speaker 1: We just talk about dark endings. The Hustler, Hud also,
2:22:44
Speaker 1: every Paul Newman movie. No, but yeah, The Hustler.
2:22:47
Speaker 2: The Hustler was very dark.
2:22:49
Speaker 1: Jackie Gleason in the Minnesota Fats, bro.
2:22:51
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal.
2:22:52
Speaker 1: He was so fucking... Talk about a fucking drinker, too.
2:22:55
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
2:22:56
Speaker 1: Who do you think wins? Shane or Jackie Gleason one-on-one?
2:22:58
Speaker 2: They both die. They both die. The world loses because
2:23:02
Speaker 2: we lose both of them. They drink each other to death.
2:23:04
Speaker 6: Dude.
2:23:05
Speaker 2: I think Shane could probably out-drink him, though. Shane's an animal.
2:23:07
Speaker 1: Maybe because it's like.
2:23:08
Speaker 2: He's a bigger guy, too.
2:23:09
Speaker 1: It's like 60s basketball versus now. I think Steph Curry's
2:23:13
Speaker 1: taking Bob Cousy. I think that's why I put Shane
2:23:15
Speaker 1: over Jackie Gleason. But Gleason... Those guys were animals. You
2:23:19
Speaker 1: know what I read is that Spencer Tracy was such
2:23:21
Speaker 1: a fucking blackout drunk in the 40s, whatever, that the
2:23:25
Speaker 1: studio would have to hire people to spy on him
2:23:27
Speaker 1: at bars and just help him into a car so
2:23:29
Speaker 1: it wasn't a news story. Because he was just such
2:23:32
Speaker 1: a known blackout alcoholic. And I was like, what a
2:23:34
Speaker 1: fucking amazing time.
2:23:37
Speaker 2: I think the difference also is that Gleason is a
2:23:39
Speaker 2: hard drinker. He's like hard booze. Whereas Shane is like
2:23:43
Speaker 2: light beer. He's Bud Light.
2:23:45
Speaker 1: Shane monitors your drinks, too. If you're drinking with Shane,
2:23:48
Speaker 1: Shane's like, this one's almost empty. Hands you another. You're like,
2:23:50
Speaker 1: God damn it. Shane, it's Tuesday.
2:23:53
Speaker 2: His favorite drink, Jackie Gleason's Neat Scotch Whiskey with no ice,
2:23:57
Speaker 2: no water, no soda.
2:23:59
Speaker 1: That's a drunk.
2:24:00
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also known to introduce Frank Sinatra to Jack Daniels,
2:24:04
Speaker 2: helping it make its Sinatra's signature drink. Capacity. Boasts that
2:24:08
Speaker 2: he could drink more scotch per hour than anyone alive.
2:24:13
Speaker 1: I mean, he was... You can just tell he's drinking
2:24:16
Speaker 1: in that movie. That movie is like, man, that's one
2:24:18
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies ever.
2:24:20
Speaker 2: Refused traditional rehearsals for The Honeymooners, claiming a photographic memory,
2:24:25
Speaker 2: though associates noted that heavy drinking offsets sometimes contributed to
2:24:29
Speaker 2: forgotten lines or poor creative choices, such as the disastrous
2:24:34
Speaker 2: TV flop You're in the Picture.
2:24:37
Speaker 1: Well, those guys back then were such drunks that, like,
2:24:39
Speaker 1: people would just feed them lines and then be like, oh,
2:24:40
Speaker 1: my God, his performance was so naturalistic. I'm like, yeah, dude,
2:24:43
Speaker 1: you fed him the line and then he said it.
2:24:44
Speaker 1: That's why it fucking felt real.
2:24:46
Speaker 2: Yeah. His drinking was matched with a massive appetite for
2:24:49
Speaker 2: food and a habit of smoking up to five packs
2:24:51
Speaker 2: of cigarettes a day. Wow.
2:24:53
Speaker 1: Five packs doesn't seem... That's not fucking possible.
2:24:56
Speaker 2: You could do it.
2:24:57
Speaker 1: Five?
2:24:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do it.
2:24:58
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking now, has it always been 20 in
2:25:00
Speaker 4: a pack?
2:25:01
Speaker 1: Could have been.
2:25:01
Speaker 4: 10 back then?
2:25:02
Speaker 2: No, you could do it. You could smoke 100 cigarettes
2:25:05
Speaker 2: a day. 100 a day. Yeah, you just keep smoking.
2:25:07
Speaker 2: You never stop smoking. I mean, you ever see that
2:25:09
Speaker 2: interview with him where he's just constantly, he's just chain
2:25:11
Speaker 2: smoking one to the next, one to the next?
2:25:13
Speaker 1: 100 is, five packs is absurd. One pack is bad,
2:25:17
Speaker 1: so five is fucking... Let's think.
2:25:19
Speaker 2: Let's imagine you woke up at 10 a.m., got a
2:25:22
Speaker 2: cup of coffee, smoked a cigarette, went out to the
2:25:24
Speaker 2: golf course, smoking cigarettes all the time you're playing golf. Yeah. Like,
2:25:28
Speaker 2: he was, he was like... A baby. Like a big,
2:25:33
Speaker 2: not a baby, like a happy child. Like a grown up, wealthy,
2:25:38
Speaker 2: happy child that just did whatever the fuck he wanted to.
2:25:43
Speaker 2: And just lived his life. Had no concern whatsoever for
2:25:46
Speaker 2: his health. No concern for anything other than having fun.
2:25:49
Speaker 1: What did Gleason make it to?
2:25:53
Speaker 2: Six packs a day during the height of his career. Wow.
2:25:57
Speaker 1: How old was he when he died?
2:25:59
Speaker 2: I don't think he was very old. I think he
2:26:00
Speaker 2: was in his 70s, early 70s. 71? You know, I've
2:26:05
Speaker 2: been really, I really love Alan Watts. I love listening
2:26:09
Speaker 2: to Alan Watts' speeches. He's just like, there's something about
2:26:11
Speaker 2: his accent and his philosophy with his accent. He was
2:26:16
Speaker 2: just such a great orator. And, you know, he has
2:26:19
Speaker 2: these such wise words to say about life. And he
2:26:23
Speaker 2: wrote a great book about the age of anxiety in 1952.
2:26:27
Speaker 1: Wow.
2:26:28
Speaker 2: In 1952, he was talking.
2:26:30
Speaker 1: About- I wonder if it has anything to do with
2:26:31
Speaker 1: the six packs of cigarettes you're smoking.
2:26:33
Speaker 2: That was the problem with him. This wasn't Jack Gleeson.
2:26:36
Speaker 1: No, no, I know, but I'm talking about that generation
2:26:39
Speaker 1: of people that just fucking live like that.
2:26:40
Speaker 2: But Alan Watts as well. That's the thing. He's writing
2:26:44
Speaker 2: and giving these speeches, and they're so brilliant and beautiful,
2:26:47
Speaker 2: and they resonate with you so hard. And then you
2:26:49
Speaker 2: find out- Oh, he died, he was 58. Died of
2:26:54
Speaker 2: heart disease. He was smoking constantly, drinking. He was a
2:26:57
Speaker 2: fucking terrible alcoholic. He'd been married three times. He had
2:27:00
Speaker 2: seven kids with three different wives. Like, his life was
2:27:03
Speaker 2: a mess.
2:27:03
Speaker 1: It doesn't stop you from being brilliant. I mean, how
2:27:06
Speaker 1: many friends do you know who are the most toxic
2:27:08
Speaker 1: relationships you've ever seen? And then you ask them something
2:27:10
Speaker 1: and they give you the most profound advice.
2:27:12
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. All the time.
2:27:13
Speaker 1: Just because you can still say, I mean, fucking Thomas
2:27:16
Speaker 1: Jefferson was preaching about how we shouldn't have slaves while
2:27:19
Speaker 1: impregnating slaves. It's easy to not look at your own
2:27:24
Speaker 1: paper and then speak with, you know, intellect on issues that,
2:27:29
Speaker 1: you know.
2:27:29
Speaker 2: You want to read something dark that's over there. There's
2:27:33
Speaker 2: a book called The Zorg that Siddharth Kaur wrote. Siddharth
2:27:38
Speaker 2: Kaur is a guy who wrote Cobalt Red. It was
2:27:42
Speaker 2: all about the cobalt mining in the Congo.
2:27:44
Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
2:27:45
Speaker 2: It's like an expose. It's really dark. That's really dark, too.
2:27:49
Speaker 1: It's all bad.
2:27:49
Speaker 2: And he filmed it and explained it and showed it
2:27:51
Speaker 2: to us.
2:27:52
Speaker 1: Everything that's good for us has got a horrible origin, basically.
2:27:55
Speaker 1: Everything we enjoy.
2:27:56
Speaker 2: But the Zorg is crazy. The Zorg is the ship
2:27:59
Speaker 2: that essentially ended the transatlantic slave trade. Because the slave
2:28:05
Speaker 2: trade apparently was how the insurance industry came about. Because
2:28:10
Speaker 2: they wanted to insure their slaves as property. And then
2:28:14
Speaker 2: if a bunch of them died, they wanted to get compensated.
2:28:17
Speaker 2: So they would buy a policy on their slave share.
2:28:21
Speaker 2: And so this one boat lost like half of its slaves.
2:28:25
Speaker 2: And just the horrific conditions because they went to trial
2:28:30
Speaker 2: for the insurance claim because they had to throw women
2:28:33
Speaker 2: and children off the boat because they ran out of
2:28:35
Speaker 2: water because they missed Cuba and they were circling around.
2:28:38
Speaker 2: It is– The darkest. Or Jamaica. It is the darkest.
2:28:42
Speaker 4: Jesus.
2:28:42
Speaker 2: It is so awful. And you got to realize, like,
2:28:46
Speaker 2: that's only 200 years ago?
2:28:48
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:28:49
Speaker 2: 200 fucking years ago? 200 fucking years ago this was
2:28:51
Speaker 2: going on?
2:28:52
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about how slavery was not that
2:28:54
Speaker 1: long ago. It's pretty crazy.
2:28:55
Speaker 2: Well, it's not even not that long ago. It's happening
2:28:57
Speaker 2: right now in the world.
2:28:59
Speaker 1: Right, right.
2:29:00
Speaker 2: But that kind of- I meant in America, but yeah.
2:29:01
Speaker 2: The Atlantic slave trade where they had people 16 inches
2:29:05
Speaker 2: per body on this boat. That's how stacked the boat was.
2:29:09
Speaker 2: And they have a diagram of these bodies, like how
2:29:12
Speaker 2: they made them lie down because that was the best
2:29:15
Speaker 2: way to conserve space. And they had them lie down
2:29:17
Speaker 2: on the ground shackled 16 inches per body.
2:29:21
Speaker 1: And I'm pissed with Delta Comfort. It's a fucked up time.
2:29:23
Speaker 1: It's a fucked up time. No, it's fucking awful.
2:29:31
Speaker 2: It's dark. It's as dark as the Roy DeMeo shit.
2:29:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
2:29:36
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:29:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look too closely at the ingredients of
2:29:39
Speaker 1: the country, it's like looking too closely.
2:29:41
Speaker 2: It's the ingredients of humans. That's the problem. Humans, when
2:29:45
Speaker 2: they're allowed to be awful, they'll do it. They'll do it.
2:29:48
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:29:50
Speaker 2: Especially if they can get away with it. They'll do it. Yeah, man.
2:29:53
Speaker 2: The cobalt shit's nuts.
2:29:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's our cell phone battery? Uh-huh. That's crazy.
2:29:58
Speaker 2: Cell phone, electric cars, most electronic laptops.
2:30:01
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's no good, like, gas, cobalt, there's
2:30:04
Speaker 1: no good outcome for your car, really, right?
2:30:07
Speaker 2: Oil.
2:30:07
Speaker 1: There's going to be a shady way you're getting any
2:30:10
Speaker 1: of this, right?
2:30:10
Speaker 2: Oil is probably the best, honestly.
2:30:12
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy that that's where we're at?
2:30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's also probably the best. Even though the
2:30:18
Speaker 2: emissions aren't good, you know what's really bad? Brake dust.
2:30:22
Speaker 2: Brake dust is really bad, too.
2:30:23
Speaker 1: Why is that?
2:30:24
Speaker 2: Electric cars are heavier, and electric cars give out more
2:30:27
Speaker 2: brake dust. Because that shit that you wash if you
2:30:30
Speaker 2: wash your car and the shit that's on the wheels,
2:30:33
Speaker 2: that stuff gets in your lungs. That stuff is all
2:30:35
Speaker 2: over cities. If you're in New York City and you're like, beep, beep, bumper, bumper,
2:30:40
Speaker 2: everyone's hitting the brakes, that's all brake dust. All that
2:30:43
Speaker 2: stuff goes in the air.
2:30:45
Speaker 1: The air in New York is hilarious. You go to
2:30:47
Speaker 1: a place that's like, I'll die in New York. I
2:30:50
Speaker 1: adore New York to death. But you go to Vancouver
2:30:53
Speaker 1: and you're like, why is the air so nice here?
2:30:55
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. You walk around New York enough and
2:30:58
Speaker 1: you're just like, why do I smell garbage? And I
2:31:01
Speaker 1: will fight for New York to the death. It's my
2:31:03
Speaker 1: favorite place in the world. But yeah, it's crazy.
2:31:05
Speaker 2: Well, it's a trade-off. You want to stack all those
2:31:08
Speaker 2: people together like that. You're going to get exhaust fumes,
2:31:11
Speaker 2: brake dust, rats, garbage.
2:31:13
Speaker 1: I had a rat in my fucking home last year.
2:31:14
Speaker 1: It's on a high floor. It's a very upsetting thing.
2:31:17
Speaker 2: Electric cars make significantly less brake dust. Okay, but hold on.
2:31:22
Speaker 2: Regenerative braking is only Tesla's though. No, it's not. Yours
2:31:26
Speaker 2: does it? Yeah. But most of them aren't standard, right?
2:31:29
Speaker 2: You have to turn that on. Like, regenerative braking on
2:31:33
Speaker 2: Teslas is, like, standard.
2:31:34
Speaker 4: It's like turning the air conditioning on, though. It's pretty easy.
2:31:36
Speaker 1: Some of those self-driving cars, some of them are amazing.
2:31:38
Speaker 1: I was in Fiona Cawley's car, you know, Fiona, in Nashville,
2:31:42
Speaker 1: and she's got, like, a self-driving car. It's unbelievable.
2:31:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, mine does that.
2:31:46
Speaker 1: The technology is.
2:31:46
Speaker 2: Kind of incredible. My Tesla drives itself. I can, like,
2:31:48
Speaker 2: when I'm leaving the club, I press a button.
2:31:50
Speaker 4: Something scary I saw last night. I don't mean scary
2:31:53
Speaker 4: is not the right word, but it is. A guy
2:31:55
Speaker 4: was showing on Twitter that he could upload his own
2:31:59
Speaker 4: self-driving model.
2:32:01
Speaker 2: Or whatever, you know? What? What does that mean?
2:32:05
Speaker 6: For instance, you know how you could have your own
2:32:07
Speaker 6: LMM on your own computer and talk to your own agent,
2:32:09
Speaker 6: if you will, and it's separate from being online and
2:32:12
Speaker 6: it's not taking up all the resources?
2:32:14
Speaker 4: He was saying how he... I don't know if he.
2:32:16
Speaker 6: Downloaded it from GitHub or where he got it from,
2:32:18
Speaker 6: but he was in control of his own self-driving fucking model.
2:32:23
Speaker 1: So wait, I don't understand how that works.
2:32:25
Speaker 4: He owns the car, I guess, you know?
2:32:28
Speaker 1: Okay.
2:32:29
Speaker 2: Updated to his.
2:32:30
Speaker 4: Hacking the software.
2:32:30
Speaker 2: So he hacked into... What kind of electric car was it?
2:32:33
Speaker 2: It was a Tesla. So he hacked into his Tesla. Yeah.
2:32:36
Speaker 6: He was showing the video of it. He didn't show
2:32:37
Speaker 6: the video of how he did everything, but he was
2:32:39
Speaker 6: showing the video of the car driving.
2:32:40
Speaker 1: So what is him hacking into it so he can
2:32:41
Speaker 1: just do whatever he wants?
2:32:42
Speaker 2: No, well, I mean... He could drive his wife off
2:32:44
Speaker 2: a cliff is what he could do.
2:32:45
Speaker 1: So I guess if you don't know... We're going to
2:32:47
Speaker 1: get some good Columbo episodes if they bring that shit back.
2:32:49
Speaker 4: Not all Teslas have it.
2:32:50
Speaker 2: Sorry to bother you.
2:32:52
Speaker 1: It's a software. That was a good Columbo.
2:32:54
Speaker 2: Thank you.
2:32:54
Speaker 6: It's a software subscription you have to pay for. And
2:32:57
Speaker 6: his response was like, well, I don't have to pay
2:32:58
Speaker 6: for it anymore because... Now I own it.
2:33:01
Speaker 2: Is Robert Blake dead?
2:33:03
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
2:33:04
Speaker 2: Beretta?
2:33:05
Speaker 1: I don't think he's dead. Man, he's a piece of shit, huh?
2:33:09
Speaker 2: There was a restaurant. Isn't it crazy that he's in
2:33:12
Speaker 2: the movie in cold blood?
2:33:13
Speaker 4: He died in 23.
2:33:14
Speaker 1: Oh, he died? All right, good.
2:33:15
Speaker 2: There was a restaurant that was down the street from
2:33:17
Speaker 2: a place where I used to live that I used
2:33:19
Speaker 2: to go to was where he allegedly whacked his wife.
2:33:22
Speaker 2: Remember that whole story? Yeah. He claimed that some guy
2:33:25
Speaker 2: in a hoodie came over. I forget the story.
2:33:28
Speaker 1: And he plays the murderer in In Cold Blood.
2:33:30
Speaker 2: In Cold Blood, yeah.
2:33:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a piece of shit.
2:33:34
Speaker 2: Who did that movie? That was a weird movie.
2:33:36
Speaker 1: I forgot.
2:33:36
Speaker 2: But he had white makeup on and stuff. He looked
2:33:39
Speaker 2: really creepy, didn't he?
2:33:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he was a dumb one, too.
2:33:44
Speaker 2: I'm confusing that with another movie.
2:33:45
Speaker 1: No, that was a Capote book, In Cold Blood. That
2:33:48
Speaker 1: was a fucking amazing book.
2:33:49
Speaker 4: His son is staging a murder mystery at the same
2:33:51
Speaker 4: restaurant where the.
2:33:53
Speaker 1: Vitello's.
2:33:54
Speaker 2: No. No.
2:33:56
Speaker 1: This is a real heat check, dude.
2:33:58
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. No. In Cold Blood actor
2:34:03
Speaker 2: Robert Blake was accused of shooting his wife Bonnie Lee
2:34:06
Speaker 2: Bakley to death in the parking lot of Vitello's Italian
2:34:10
Speaker 2: restaurant in Studio City in 2001. Now his son is
2:34:13
Speaker 2: staging a fictional murder mystery in the same eatery. That's crazy.
2:34:16
Speaker 1: It's a lot like OJ's If I Did It. It's
2:34:19
Speaker 1: a real heat check.
2:34:20
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
2:34:21
Speaker 1: LA's fucking weird, dude.
2:34:22
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Well, you gotta do what you gotta do.
2:34:25
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that, I guess. No, you don't.
2:34:28
Speaker 1: That's pretty dark.
2:34:29
Speaker 4: He was acquitted in the murder, but found liable in
2:34:31
Speaker 4: the civil case. Also like OJ.
2:34:37
Speaker 2: The daughter of both Blake and Bakely... first took her
2:34:40
Speaker 2: objections public Monday. She's going against her brother, denouncing the
2:34:44
Speaker 2: production on social media and pleading with followers, please help
2:34:47
Speaker 2: me shut down this show. That is crazy.
2:34:49
Speaker 1: There is an obsession with true crime to a point
2:34:52
Speaker 1: now where it's like, come on, guys. The ladies love it.
2:34:54
Speaker 1: They love it. Yeah. I will say I like Forensic
2:34:58
Speaker 1: Files because there's closure and the Unsolved Mysteries ones, that's
2:35:01
Speaker 1: where I'm like, What are we doing?
2:35:03
Speaker 2: I think ladies want to know how murderous men think
2:35:06
Speaker 2: so that they can avoid them. I think that's the, like, what?
2:35:09
Speaker 2: What's going on? Like, things on, like, the Night Stalker,
2:35:12
Speaker 2: like Richard Ramirez, like that documentary.
2:35:14
Speaker 1: Exactly. He was a scary one.
2:35:16
Speaker 2: Very scary. That's very popular with the ladies.
2:35:18
Speaker 1: So it shows that guys don't, we're not watching, like,
2:35:20
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. We're not, like, we want to know how
2:35:22
Speaker 1: women think, you know? But women, but we're a threat,
2:35:26
Speaker 1: so I get why they watch it. I mean, women
2:35:28
Speaker 1: are upset, and women are, I'll date girls who just, like,
2:35:30
Speaker 1: go to sleep right after watching.
2:35:32
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Yeah. I don't understand how they do that.
2:35:35
Speaker 1: The Ramirez one, he was a scary fucker.
2:35:37
Speaker 2: Who was the guy that was on the dating game?
2:35:39
Speaker 1: Forgot his name. It's like.
2:35:41
Speaker 2: The video of him smiling. Oh, dude. He looks like
2:35:44
Speaker 2: such a fucking psycho.
2:35:46
Speaker 1: But he had them all won over on that show.
2:35:48
Speaker 1: He charmed them. Rodney Alcala. That's right.
2:35:54
Speaker 2: Is that him in jail? Look at him on trial.
2:35:57
Speaker 2: Look at his hair. That's crazy.
2:35:59
Speaker 4: Ooh.
2:36:01
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Looks like Weird Al in that photo.
2:36:07
Speaker 2: 2010 he was sentenced? So when did he get arrested?
2:36:13
Speaker 2: What is the story behind? Dating game.
2:36:15
Speaker 1: Oh.
2:36:21
Speaker 2: Okay. Dating. What's the title of it? Dating game killer
2:36:25
Speaker 2: sentenced for 1970s murder. In 2013, he got sentenced? Convicted
2:36:34
Speaker 2: California serial killer Ronnie Alcala, contestant on the dating game
2:36:38
Speaker 2: television show more than 30 years ago, was sentenced to
2:36:41
Speaker 2: 25 years to life in prison on Monday for murdering
2:36:44
Speaker 2: two New York women in the 1970s. Was this additional? Yeah,
2:36:48
Speaker 2: already on death row in California for killing four women.
2:36:51
Speaker 1: So many people.
2:36:52
Speaker 2: And a 12-year-old girl in that state was extradited to
2:36:55
Speaker 2: New York. So this was when he was already in jail.
2:36:57
Speaker 2: And he was 69.
2:36:59
Speaker 1: God, these fuckers get away with it forever.
2:37:01
Speaker 4: That's a crazy ad to have in the middle of this.
2:37:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the fuck is that ad?
2:37:06
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
2:37:07
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. They're selling a shirt that says problem solved
2:37:10
Speaker 2: that has blood splattered all over it.
2:37:12
Speaker 4: It's not even obvious what it is.
2:37:13
Speaker 1: It's his line.
2:37:14
Speaker 2: It's not obvious?
2:37:15
Speaker 4: No, I mean, like, what are they, is it even
2:37:18
Speaker 4: selling that? It could be anything.
2:37:21
Speaker 1: Click on it.
2:37:22
Speaker 4: I don't want to.
2:37:22
Speaker 2: Click on it.
2:37:23
Speaker 4: I don't ever click on these ads.
2:37:24
Speaker 1: Click on it.
2:37:25
Speaker 4: God damn it.
2:37:27
Speaker 2: Halloween. But make it your style.
2:37:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not supposed to be a real murderer
2:37:31
Speaker 1: for Halloween. You're supposed to be like the Joker or
2:37:33
Speaker 1: something fun.
2:37:34
Speaker 2: Fuck.
2:37:34
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to go as Rodney Alcala.
2:37:36
Speaker 2: Who's buying shirts that have splatter all over them? What
2:37:39
Speaker 2: kind of an outfit are you wearing?
2:37:41
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Some of these Halloween costumes freak
2:37:43
Speaker 1: me the fuck out, dude. I stay the fuck in
2:37:45
Speaker 1: on Halloween.
2:37:46
Speaker 2: I like it when girls use it as an opportunity
2:37:48
Speaker 2: to be a hoe. Of course. A slutty nurse.
2:37:51
Speaker 1: They're playing to the home crowd right here. We love it.
2:37:53
Speaker 1: But when you're doing like weird shit, when dudes start
2:37:55
Speaker 1: eating you, especially in New York, dude, there's people doing
2:37:58
Speaker 1: like weird shit and you're like, same feeling I get
2:38:01
Speaker 1: when I see a dude with like a backpack at
2:38:02
Speaker 1: the movie theater. I'm like, oh, come on, dude.
2:38:04
Speaker 4: Right.
2:38:05
Speaker 1: You know you're making this uneasy.
2:38:06
Speaker 2: Right.
2:38:07
Speaker 5: Right.
2:38:08
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be able, they should have a metal scanner.
2:38:10
Speaker 1: They absolutely should. Yeah. I'm out for more security, but
2:38:13
Speaker 1: at the same time, like, I want to relax in
2:38:16
Speaker 1: a movie. I like going to the theater.
2:38:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, the mask thing is nuts, man, because so many
2:38:22
Speaker 2: people could just wear masks now. It used to be
2:38:25
Speaker 2: if someone wore a mask and they walked into a bank,
2:38:26
Speaker 2: it was crazy.
2:38:27
Speaker 6: Yeah.
2:38:28
Speaker 2: But now you can't even question them because it might
2:38:30
Speaker 2: be a COVID issue.
2:38:31
Speaker 1: How many people are robbing banks these days? That must
2:38:33
Speaker 1: be like... I wonder. I wonder, because it's like, that
2:38:35
Speaker 1: feels like... It's got to be hard to do. That
2:38:37
Speaker 1: feels like the 80s or like a small town and,
2:38:39
Speaker 1: you know.
2:38:40
Speaker 2: Well, especially with like flock cameras and all that shit.
2:38:43
Speaker 1: It feels so hard to do now. How many.
2:38:45
Speaker 2: Bank robberies are there per year? Let's guess. In the
2:38:49
Speaker 2: United States.
2:38:49
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess like 20. That might be crazy.
2:38:50
Speaker 2: In the whole country?
2:38:51
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Like a real robbery?
2:38:54
Speaker 2: I'm going to say 200.
2:38:54
Speaker 1: That would be probably closer.
2:38:56
Speaker 4: It happens a lot.
2:38:57
Speaker 2: Credit unions and shit. I don't know how.
2:38:58
Speaker 4: People get away.
2:38:59
Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I'm talking in person.
2:39:01
Speaker 2: We're not saying all the time.
2:39:02
Speaker 1: I'm talking in person.
2:39:03
Speaker 2: With a gun.
2:39:04
Speaker 1: I'm not talking like some sort of like weird wire
2:39:06
Speaker 1: fraud thing.
2:39:07
Speaker 2: What about if they show up with a letter that
2:39:09
Speaker 2: says I have a bomb? Is that okay? Does that count?
2:39:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll count it.
2:39:12
Speaker 2: That counts. Okay.
2:39:13
Speaker 1: So maybe it's higher. I'll go 50.
2:39:15
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm saying 200.
2:39:16
Speaker 1: But I think you're right, probably.
2:39:17
Speaker 2: I'm sticking with 200.
2:39:17
Speaker 1: I still think you're right.
2:39:19
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of, like, small credit unions
2:39:22
Speaker 2: and weird places and weird.
2:39:25
Speaker 1: Way up? Way up?
2:39:26
Speaker 2: 1,000?
2:39:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still higher.
2:39:27
Speaker 1: 2,000?
2:39:27
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like 1,300, 1,200.
2:39:29
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm fucking way off.
2:39:30
Speaker 2: Whoa.
2:39:31
Speaker 4: I even attempted bank robberies.
2:39:33
Speaker 2: Per year?
2:39:35
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:39:35
Speaker 6: 1,362 bank violations, including 1,263 robberies.
2:39:39
Speaker 1: But it's way down. Like, you watch a movie like
2:39:41
Speaker 1: Point Break now, and you're like, that's like a period piece.
2:39:44
Speaker 2: That's not.
2:39:45
Speaker 4: 92, there's almost 10,000. Yeah.
2:39:46
Speaker 2: It is a fucking nutty thing to have, like, a
2:39:49
Speaker 2: building that has all the money in it.
2:39:52
Speaker 1: Well, it's becoming less and less, right? Everything's becoming more
2:39:54
Speaker 1: and more digital. Think about how... Muggings must be down
2:39:57
Speaker 1: just from people not carrying cash.
2:39:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, people just want your phones. They get your Bitcoin wallet.
2:40:01
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, God, it's... Or they do the one
2:40:04
Speaker 1: where they kind of... I mean, they're able to scan
2:40:06
Speaker 1: your card somehow or something.
2:40:07
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, they can... Your RFID chip.
2:40:10
Speaker 1: It's all digital theft now.
2:40:12
Speaker 2: Well, they also can get you the gas station. They
2:40:14
Speaker 2: put those things.
2:40:17
Speaker 1: Or it's just people getting close to you. I had
2:40:18
Speaker 1: a guy steal three years of Facebook money from me. Really? Yeah.
2:40:22
Speaker 2: How did he do that?
2:40:22
Speaker 1: He was a social media manager. I didn't realize he
2:40:24
Speaker 1: stole my fucking money. I'm managing so many things. He
2:40:28
Speaker 1: stole from other comics, too. He stole from Norman, Fortune,
2:40:30
Speaker 1: Josh Wolf.
2:40:31
Speaker 2: Oh, you had him managing your stuff?
2:40:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't want to deal with that shit.
2:40:34
Speaker 1: But he put it directly into his account. And they
2:40:37
Speaker 1: made it on Facebook where it's really hard to get
2:40:39
Speaker 1: it back. in your name, you need to go through
2:40:42
Speaker 1: all these procedures. So it took me, I wouldn't have
2:40:43
Speaker 1: gotten it back if I didn't know a guy at Facebook.
2:40:45
Speaker 1: I have a friend who used to work there.
2:40:46
Speaker 2: How did you know the guy?
2:40:48
Speaker 1: Norman was like, you should use this guy.
2:40:49
Speaker 2: I'm like, thanks, Mark.
2:40:50
Speaker 1: Didn't fucking apologize, by the way. Mark got out of
2:40:54
Speaker 1: it and I was like, this guy's weird. Mark's like,
2:40:56
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that guy's a piece of shit. I was like, oh, thanks.
2:40:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those people are weird.
2:41:01
Speaker 1: He took from a lot of comics.
2:41:03
Speaker 2: Well, if they think comics are not paying attention, it
2:41:05
Speaker 2: makes sense.
2:41:06
Speaker 1: We're not. I'm thinking of the next joke. I'm not
2:41:08
Speaker 1: thinking about my fucking money.
2:41:09
Speaker 2: Especially Facebook money. How much money are you even talking about?
2:41:12
Speaker 1: It's not crazy, but three years ends up being substantial.
2:41:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real money. It's real theft. Did the guy
2:41:17
Speaker 2: get in trouble?
2:41:19
Speaker 5: No?
2:41:20
Speaker 2: Nothing?
2:41:20
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll do something.
2:41:21
Speaker 2: Probably doing Theo's stuff right now.
2:41:23
Speaker 1: Someone did it to Theo, too. I messaged Theo. I
2:41:27
Speaker 1: was like, this guy steal from me? And Theo goes,
2:41:29
Speaker 1: was he black? And I was like, no. And he's like, nah,
2:41:31
Speaker 1: it wasn't him.
2:41:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just went through something.
2:41:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:41:36
Speaker 2: There's a lot of those guys like that because you
2:41:38
Speaker 2: have to give up your account to them in order
2:41:40
Speaker 2: for them to run it.
2:41:41
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's worth it, but it's
2:41:43
Speaker 1: almost worth it just not having to deal with shit.
2:41:45
Speaker 1: I just want to live a normal life and go
2:41:48
Speaker 1: to the store and get coffee and think of jokes
2:41:50
Speaker 1: and do shit.
2:41:51
Speaker 2: There should be an AI that does that for you,
2:41:53
Speaker 2: which makes more sense. Because the problem with a person
2:41:55
Speaker 2: doing it is that person could also send DMs on
2:41:58
Speaker 2: your behalf.
2:41:59
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, I mean, look at Dane Cook. His own
2:42:01
Speaker 1: fucking brother took from him, right?
2:42:02
Speaker 2: Yes.
2:42:03
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone could do it.
2:42:04
Speaker 2: Not only did his brother took from him, he never
2:42:08
Speaker 2: recovered the money, and his brother went on a trip
2:42:11
Speaker 2: across the country. They don't know what he did. They
2:42:14
Speaker 2: think his brother might have, like, stored the— I think he
2:42:16
Speaker 2: just did a documentary on his brother.
2:42:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. Looks good.
2:42:20
Speaker 4: Here's the first AI agent mishap.
2:42:23
Speaker 2: Meta user says Muse AI gave out his address, agreed
2:42:27
Speaker 2: to pick up. He never approved. Muse AI agent sold
2:42:32
Speaker 2: his keyboard on Facebook Marketplace at a low ball price,
2:42:37
Speaker 2: shared his address with the buyer, and set up a
2:42:40
Speaker 2: late night pickup all without his approval. He's trying to
2:42:43
Speaker 2: get him killed.
2:42:44
Speaker 1: It's fucking weird. Yeah, no, I mean, there's too much
2:42:48
Speaker 1: to think about. There's too much to manage. I can't
2:42:50
Speaker 1: deal with all this shit.
2:42:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
2:42:52
Speaker 1: It stresses me out. I mean, you must have a
2:42:54
Speaker 1: million things you give to other people to do, right?
2:42:56
Speaker 2: I try not to think about much.
2:42:58
Speaker 1: True.
2:42:59
Speaker 2: Because it's too much to think about. So I just
2:43:02
Speaker 2: focus on doing the podcast, doing comedy shows.
2:43:06
Speaker 1: That's what success is. You try to get away. I mean,
2:43:09
Speaker 1: someone like you, you're like, I just want to show
2:43:10
Speaker 1: up and work on this shit.
2:43:12
Speaker 2: I think the more you micromanage that stuff, the more
2:43:14
Speaker 2: it fucks with your head, too. It becomes a part
2:43:17
Speaker 2: of your focus, and it just steals from all your
2:43:19
Speaker 2: other focus.
2:43:20
Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, no, I want to think about That, to me,
2:43:23
Speaker 1: is like luxury. It's like less stuff I have to
2:43:25
Speaker 1: worry about, and I just want to.
2:43:26
Speaker 2: 100%.
2:43:27
Speaker 1: I want to just live life and enjoy life.
2:43:30
Speaker 2: Word. All right, dude. Netflix. New special. Yeah, Sam Morrell.
2:43:36
Speaker 1: Incorrect.
2:43:36
Speaker 2: It's awesome. It's good. I have not watched it yet,
2:43:39
Speaker 2: but I've heard great stuff.
2:43:40
Speaker 1: Give it a watch.
2:43:41
Speaker 2: You're a funny motherfucker. I'm sure it's awesome.
2:43:42
Speaker 1: It's my best... I'll say it's my... It's either my
2:43:45
Speaker 1: best or my second best, I'll say. It's hard to
2:43:48
Speaker 1: top that YouTube one I did in 2020 because I
2:43:50
Speaker 1: was so fucking hungry and angry at the world. But
2:43:54
Speaker 1: this one, it's really good. I took a little longer
2:43:56
Speaker 1: with this one. Shot it in the Tampa Theater. Gorgeous theater.
2:44:01
Speaker 1: Three shows. Ton of fun.
2:44:03
Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice.
2:44:03
Speaker 1: I threw on a nice blazer. Come on, guys.
2:44:05
Speaker 2: Three shows is a smart move. It's a move.
2:44:07
Speaker 1: I got to do at least three.
2:44:09
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:44:09
Speaker 1: Three or four.
2:44:10
Speaker 2: You get loosened up.
2:44:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the crowd was so— Tampa crowds are fucking great, man.
2:44:14
Speaker 2: Tampa's awesome.
2:44:15
Speaker 1: That theater's one of the most gorgeous theaters, and I
2:44:17
Speaker 1: got in right before they renovated it. So I was like,
2:44:19
Speaker 1: I got all the kinks and the dirt in it.
2:44:21
Speaker 1: It's such a fun place to tape.
2:44:23
Speaker 2: A lot of swingers in Tampa.
2:44:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. They're wild. Hopefully my girlfriend stopped listening.
2:44:30
Speaker 2: What? Swingers? What? A whole group of swingers came to
2:44:33
Speaker 2: one of my shows once, and they were telling me.
2:44:35
Speaker 2: And they all looked like nobody you wanted to swing with,
2:44:37
Speaker 2: of course.
2:44:38
Speaker 1: Of course.
2:44:38
Speaker 2: But it was just very nude beach.
2:44:40
Speaker 1: Like you like tits and then you're like, oh, tits.
2:44:42
Speaker 2: This is very odd.
2:44:43
Speaker 1: Not good.
2:44:44
Speaker 2: That they were all grouped up like and then that
2:44:47
Speaker 2: you said the same thing. Like, it's very odd. They
2:44:49
Speaker 2: were all grouped in this one place.
2:44:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's just a place I was like,
2:44:53
Speaker 1: I've never done a special in like Florida or anything.
2:44:55
Speaker 1: So I was like, let me just mix it up and.
2:44:57
Speaker 1: Tampa's always been good to me. I played a club
2:44:59
Speaker 1: there coming up called SideSplitters. It always treated me really well.
2:45:01
Speaker 1: And I was like, let me do it. Also, you
2:45:03
Speaker 1: know when you're touring and you clock a theater, you're like,
2:45:04
Speaker 1: I really like this theater. There were two others that
2:45:07
Speaker 1: I clocked that I was like, I'm going to come.
2:45:08
Speaker 1: One is the Bijou in Knoxville, and the other is
2:45:10
Speaker 1: the Moore in Seattle. There are two theaters that are
2:45:12
Speaker 1: just like, these are beautiful. The vibe is right.
2:45:14
Speaker 2: You know what I thought about doing? Fox in Detroit.
2:45:17
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a really nice one.
2:45:18
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's an old school one, too.
2:45:22
Speaker 2: They have one of their columns that is replaced today.
2:45:25
Speaker 2: And the one that was there before is yellow from
2:45:28
Speaker 2: cigarette smoke? Yes. That's how old it is.
2:45:31
Speaker 1: Detroit's great, too. I mean, it's a great comedy city.
2:45:33
Speaker 1: It's like a real city.
2:45:34
Speaker 2: It's a real city.
2:45:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. Gritty. Midwest is great for— I always shout out the
2:45:40
Speaker 1: Omaha Funny Bone. That's where I always work out. I
2:45:42
Speaker 1: try to build back up. Colleen.
2:45:43
Speaker 2: Oh, really?
2:45:44
Speaker 1: I love that club. They say Omaha is where they
2:45:46
Speaker 1: test a new fast food item. So like if Taco
2:45:49
Speaker 1: Bell or McDonald's, like we're going to try a new
2:45:50
Speaker 1: thing because it's so representative of America. So I'm like, well,
2:45:53
Speaker 1: by that logic, it should be great to test new jokes.
2:45:56
Speaker 1: So I love Omaha Funny Bone. Or like, yeah, right
2:45:58
Speaker 1: now I'm on tour and I'm just like trying clubs
2:46:00
Speaker 1: and I'm building back. It's such a miserable process, but
2:46:02
Speaker 1: you're building back up and you go to the places
2:46:04
Speaker 1: you always want to go, like Madison or like Cleveland
2:46:07
Speaker 1: Hilarities is great. All these clubs are such great clubs.
2:46:10
Speaker 1: So you build back up and it's a humbling but
2:46:14
Speaker 1: fun process, you know?
2:46:15
Speaker 2: We're lucky as fuck, dude.
2:46:17
Speaker 1: We're very lucky.
2:46:17
Speaker 2: We're lucky we get to do this. This is the
2:46:19
Speaker 2: funnest job.
2:46:19
Speaker 1: I feel lucky, man.
2:46:20
Speaker 2: For sure. I'm glad you do because you're very appreciative
2:46:23
Speaker 2: of it. It's very apparent.
2:46:25
Speaker 4: Sorry, my Columbus pride won't let you take that away
2:46:27
Speaker 4: from us.
2:46:28
Speaker 1: Oh, you're from Columbus as well? I'm going there. Oh,
2:46:31
Speaker 1: is that where they do the test? I'm going there.
2:46:34
Speaker 1: Early next year, I'm hitting the funny bone there.
2:46:35
Speaker 2: I love that club too. Another great place. I love Columbus.
2:46:37
Speaker 1: Columbus is great too.
2:46:38
Speaker 2: Columbus is awesome. Let's wrap it up.
2:46:41
Speaker 1: Sweet.
2:46:41
Speaker 2: Good to see you, brother.
2:46:42
Speaker 1: Great to see you.
2:46:42
Speaker 2: How long are you in town for?
2:46:44
Speaker 1: I leave tomorrow afternoon.
2:46:46
Speaker 4: Okay.
2:46:47
Speaker 2: You doing Kill Tony tonight?
2:46:48
Speaker 1: I'm not.
2:46:49
Speaker 4: I'm not.
2:46:50
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm fucking burned.
2:46:52
Speaker 2: I hear you. All right. Website, all that jazz, people
2:46:56
Speaker 2: will find you?
2:46:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, just my name, Sam.
2:47:00
Speaker 4: Okay.
2:47:00
Speaker 2: Bye, everybody.