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Know the Enemy: Old Dominion · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back. The boundary Corner podcast.
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  My name is Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler, buddy.
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  We are back finally on game week.
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  We have a game. This Friday.
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  It's actually happening. How you feeling buddy?
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  It's been what eight long months of no hokey football and it is
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  back this Friday. 7 p.m. ESPN you on a Friday night.
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  I'm just so glad it's back, man. It's been so much fun this week
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  doing the old hat of Looking at data looking at Players talking
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  with you about shit shooting the breeze and knowing that it's
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  back. Regardless what happens?
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  The Hokies are back on the field Friday night and me and I can't
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  wait. Yeah, it's gonna be nice to
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  finally have some actual stuff to argue about.
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  That's actually on the record and not speculative, right?
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  Like we feel like the between the timeline between the chats
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  between you nobody's at work. Work, things like that.
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  Like, we've been talking speculatively about what these
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  Hoagies can do. We're about to finally have some
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  real stuff to talk about and it was kind of good to kind of get
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  back into that flow of watching the tape.
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  Breaking it down, seeing what the opponents are all about.
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  Looking at the data to see if we can, you know, peel the onion
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  back a little bit on the who the monarchs are and how the Hokies
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  can go about putting them down. Absolutely.
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  That's the fun part in. This is the fun part of our
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  season from Now until December because the content rights
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  itself, we have to do the research, we have to figure out
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  the data points, where they're not good, where they're bad or
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  where we're speculating their good and bad.
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  Because right now, all we have to look at is the 2021 season,
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  which we were peeling back from looking at tape, looking at
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  data, and then going into this. But before we get deepen that
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  tonight because Know, The Enemy is coming up in a little while,
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  here, we do have Hokies news and notes and Ryan, when this tweet
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  dropped, last week, we had gotten the winds, we had gotten
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  the winds that it was going to happen, we felt it and it's
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  coming. It was kind of Return of the
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  lunch pail to Virginia check that tweet that went out with JC
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  in jgw and Xavier and Pearson all speaking to what it meant to
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  them. And then seeing some of the
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  highlights of those guys playing, like it just it just
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  got you this warm fuzzy feeling inside.
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  At least it did me. Yeah, I was right there with you
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  man. It feels like a I mean we talked
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  about the prior has been a culture, hire a big-time culture
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  higher, and there's no bigger emblem of the Virginia Tech
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  culture than the lunch pail in the lunch pail defense, correct.
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  Bringing that back. Was a no brainer price.
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  Said it was a no-brainer and it's something that's been in
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  the works since he was hired. I'm glad they kind of saved it,
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  kept it. Kept it under wraps for as long
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  as they could and unveiled it when they did.
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  It was a good way to kind of roll into the season with a
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  little bit of extra hype a little bit extra juice juice
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  and, and I'm excited, and I'm excited about what that means
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  for this defense. I mean, you know, we can talk
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  about it all. We want to about, you know, it's
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  just a lunch pail, but I think It's what it stands for and what
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  that can do in terms of motivation for your play and
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  motivation, for your work, ethic and things like that.
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  When you have that type of tradition, people, take it
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  seriously, and that can Elevate their work that can Elevate
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  their play. It is a mentality.
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  Yeah, it is mentality. And I know here in prodded a
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  speak at the presser about, it's always been a thing for the
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  defense, but I think if we look in the history of Virginia Tech,
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  the lunch pail is a mentality for the whole team.
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  It was a for the you no offense back as we were coming up when
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  we used to just rode great people and put people into
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  misery or hit them with a high-fly play.
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  After you beating them down or the block ponds or Beamer ball.
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  So, it was, it's that mentality across the whole team.
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  And if you can remember like one of the old traditions were when
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  you went on the field or when you went to someone else's place
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  in one, you took the lunch pail to the Middlefield you dug out a
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  big chunk of it. You threw it in there because
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  you claim their Turf, that mentality is something I love
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  something else, I loved and I think having guys on the staff,
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  two guys that were part. When that lunch pail first
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  appeared, 27 years ago in 1995 and again, it gets you kind of
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  emotional and think about it was when Pearson Prelude, one of the
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  all-time hooky Greeks Comes in gets the lunch pail talks about
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  it and presents it to tomorrow. Connor to be the holder for this
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  year like that, that if you didn't have some onions watching
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  that it's tough to say. If you're Virginia Tech pain, if
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  you know, what Pearson was to the program and how big of an
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  impact he had. Yeah, it's a big deal and I
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  know, you know, we saw people talk about on the timeline that
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  world that offensive side of it to like you were talking about,
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  you know, Dwight was saying, you know, it was a mentality.
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  That we all had, even though it wasn't, you know, a lunch pail
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  offense, was lunch pail defense. We had that mentality, but we
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  also knew that, you know, as the offense, you know, that lunch
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  pail defense could pick us up. Yeah, when things weren't
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  weren't going quite the way we want to.
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  And I think that mentality knowing that defense has that
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  mentality for you that can help the offensive mentality as well
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  as a. Okay, well, we don't got to get
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  all of them. We just got to get the ones that
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  count. Absolutely, absolutely.
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  So big thing, big motivational kind of done it.
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  A really good point in time as they get into that game week,
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  sort of the unveiling of that and seeing everybody speak to it
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  and knowing the history behind it.
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  All right, let's flip over real quick.
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  Couple injury notes. Benji guy Snail out for the
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  season. Matt Johnson out for the season.
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  Benji. Done really hurt sucks.
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  You tours his other sucks. It looks like it could
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  potentially be another torn ACL. You know usually you hear one
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  go. A lot of times that other one
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  blows out or sand. Achilles only year that also the
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  walk on Matt Johnson out here from Deep Run price.
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  Said it. Got we expect to be on special
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  teams contributor out for the seasons.
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  Well, not specified. Benji's wasn't specified either.
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  I'm speculating either ACL or Achilles because usually, when
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  you hear, One go you here injury and you here season ended.
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  It's usually the other of the Achilles blew out.
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  Yep. Yeah, I mean it happens often
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  times because you know you're compensating for the one and
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  next thing you know, the other one goes, you know, thankfully
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  it's not the same one I'm Toby and generally in generally, you
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  know, once you have those ACLS generally, once they're back
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  there, they're a little more solid than they were the first.
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  Go round so yeah, let's hope that's the case for him.
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  Speedy recovery to both of those gentlemen, but again, two guys
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  that were going to be minimal to sub minimal contributors for the
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  2022 season. Probably hurts more with Johnson
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  than anything. Probably having a guy like him
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  out there that on a special teams unit.
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  Probably more than Gaza know who may have found the red shirt
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  regardless this year. All right, something else kind
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  of talked about last week that caught my eye eye, man.
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  Like that was Brent Pride. Discussing with the Gameday Ops
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  are going to look like on the defensive side of the ball and
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  getting a little into the offensive side of the ball.
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  Defensively. He said straight up along with
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  himself, obviously Chris Marvel in the field.
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  Derrick Jones on the field Jayceon dip.
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  Any, any shock seeing that? I mean, know you got you got one
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  guy at each level of the the defense out there, so that just
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  makes sense. All right, that's a, that's a
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  guy on the field that can talk specifically to each level.
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  The defense get them where they need to be.
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  And then also obviously I feel like defensive coordinators have
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  a better feel for the game when they're calling it from the
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  sidelines. Yeah that's a big thing.
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  Even though we know prize going to be calling it most of the
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  time, I'm sure there's going to be input with more of there.
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  I think having a guy like JC on the sidelines is Big because JC
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  is a fire guy you know kind of like tap was before you know
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  kind of like Charlie whiles you sold them.
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  Get animated on the sidelines, they punch things, they break
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  things shit. Hopefully JC doesn't break his
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  hand at any point in time. This year, that is what it is.
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  Obviously if those three guys are on the field, it's leaving
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  Pearson Prelude and Sean Quinn up in the box.
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  And I think you just Kind of said, it piercing on the back
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  end with Quinn coaching. The nickel in the Sam's closer
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  to the line of scrimmage. Right?
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  Yep, that's exactly it. And I think also, when you look
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  at it you're talking about two very cerebral and experienced
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  folks in the booth in terms of breaking down.
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  Oh yeah, what's happening? You got, I mean Pearson
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  obviously with with his pedigree And then you talk about Quinn, a
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  guy that has been, you know, a head coach at another level, a
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  guy that's been defensive coordinator at another level.
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  So he's a guy that can diagnose and get that information down to
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  the sidelines when you see something different than what
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  they see from that position. Yeah, so that's the way it'll
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  look. So as your kind of perusing, the
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  sidelines notice, you'll notice those three guys, maybe they
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  shape Pearson up in the Box. I almost want to make a bet that
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  they will show Pearson in the Just because he played in his
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  first year coaching. Alright, offensive game day.
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  We didn't get as much on it, but we kind of got that they've been
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  toying around with her to be Brad, Lynn or Tyler, Bowing in
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  the box. And kind of the way Pride came
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  off of how it was going to be in the Box, not a shock with an
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  offensive coordinator. And Glenn was going to be on the
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  field potentially. He didn't really talk to anyone
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  else, but let's just kind of do some speculation. if bones in
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  the box and Glen's on the field, let's start with Joe Rudolph?
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  Where's Joe Rudolph boxer field? I'd say he is on the field,
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  okay? Now, from your plan experience,
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  I'm assuming that with an offensive line coach they need
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  to be on the field because of the amount of people they need
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  to talk with. Yeah.
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  I mean, I've never had a offensive line coach that was in
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  the booth in my, in my all my years of playing, I never had
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  offensive line coach, that was in the food.
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  So my assumption is that he will be there unless there's
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  obviously, you know, a backup line coach might be up there,
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  but but never never never the primary position coach.
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  My other thought is that fontelle Minds will also be on
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  the field. Okay, because if you've got,
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  I'll say this, you've got a, you've got Boeing up, their
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  minds is kind of the guy on the field that can work with the
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  tight ends and the wide receivers.
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  So that's my thought they're. All right.
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  What do you think holds up in the box or do you think it's
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  only going to be Tyler bowling with some analysts in the Box
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  because obviously old some special teams coordinator?
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  I'm thinking I'm thinking it's going to be bowing with some of
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  the other assistant position coaches and some analysts.
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  That's my field, just because of what hope does from a special
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  teams coordinator. You want that guy on the field,
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  okay? That's going to be interesting
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  to see. It will be interesting to see
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  who is on the field in, obviously, who's up in the Box.
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  Hopefully we get some more info on that.
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  I would also be interested because we do have more staffers
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  who can be in the Box this year. Especially, you know, Ryan Chris
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  right behind Chris getting a lot of Pub from Brent Pride talking
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  about him. Is he that second set of As for
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  Tyler bone in the box where you can have for the offensive
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  coaches down the field including poultry specialty for.
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  So that'll be really interesting.
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  Well Brian, we were hoping we were hoping we were hoping and
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  it did happen today. Before we went live, the depth
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  chart was released. Well, The Unofficial depth chart
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  and obviously, we've got a few things.
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  We want to talk to on that tonight.
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  And let's talk about first, the one that called your eyes, you
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  mentioned was the wide receiver room.
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  Yeah, that was that was an interesting one.
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  Wasn't it? When we, when we were looking at
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  it? We were like, okay, well, that's
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  a little different because we talked the last, you know, few
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  weeks who said. All right?
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  So three guys, pretty much locks in terms of amount of, about of
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  reps playing time snaps that they will get in a given game.
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  What we didn't know is who that four and five guy, we're going
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  to be. We now know that that was not a
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  shock. Yeah, we're not a shop.
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  We got guys smell in there at the for it is the 5.
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  That is the pretty big. I mean I'll say it big shot
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  William caki V, Texas katowice. This pack of Itza.
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  Walk-on wide receiver from Charlotte 61 195.
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  Four pounds. Definitely Providence High
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  School down there. Redshirt Junior.
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  His name. Had gotten mention though, you
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  got mentioned in the last few weeks about how coach was
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  impressed with him. Um, you know, there's not much
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  he redshirted he played a, he played a few games and 2020 on
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  special teams. Don't have any info fee, play
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  lash. I'm assuming, if he's a redshirt
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  Junior, you played last year as well.
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  But it's one of those chakras because the fifth guy we were,
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  you know, Christian moths, Jalen Jones, plethora of other
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  players. So it's kind of shocking that
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  walk on Big Willie. It's that fifth receiver spot
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  and you know what, good on that kid.
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  You don't like it for probably busting his ass giving 110%
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  every day to wear. If other potentially more
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  talented players weren't taken and he's busting his ass.
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  Yeah, there you go. I would hope that first play of
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  the game. He's on the field.
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  I'll say this. So you know, we see him.
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  There were a little shocked that that we see.
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  Name there. But we're also not seeing from a
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  depth chart just because of how its structured is what those
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  hybrid players are doing within certain formations whether it's
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  the three-wide sets or what have you, because I imagine that
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  we're going to see a whole lot of Connor blumrich split out
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  wide. I imagine that there's going to
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  be sets and formations where we see chance black split out wide
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  be shocking. Yeah, I don't think this is
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  necessarily You know, he might be fifth in terms of, you know,
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  he's got a WR next to his name right now but that's not
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  necessarily saying he's going to be the fifth option at the wide
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  receiver position. Well well we look at because of
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  how much we have that position flexibility with some of the
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  other players in that offense. Well especially when we look at
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  tight end and it's literally or or which tells me Nick's gonna
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  be on the field, a lot Drake's going to be on the field a lot.
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  Conner's going to be on the field, a lot.
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  Yeah. I mean Gary Kent Drake has great
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  athleticism, he can split out, he can do a lot of things in the
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  short game with obviously calling, Connors got some good
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  speed. Sounds like his route running
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  and hands are coming along as well so you know, we'll see him
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  a lot. I feel like and you know they're
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  going to even do some flexible things with Gallo.
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  So this is not going to be and I haven't even mentioned my
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  favorite player Daquan right yet.
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  He's not on the depth chart for on what he's out on the depth
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  chart yet. He's not on the depth chart yet
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  what Braun is trying to say is when you put the wide receiver
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  room on the depth chart it actually should go wide receiver
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  than it should Encompass tight end and it shouldn't come as
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  running back a little bit. These are wide receiver well
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  when you're talking about the slot position you're probably
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  talking about a truce lot but then you're also talking about
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  two or three hybrid players that are going to be in there as well
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  and then you probably are going to see it some point and we saw
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  it in the spring game, Jaden in the Wayne kicking out playing.
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  Wow. Pipe laying eggs because they
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  did show that position flexibility.
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  So and that's something we haven't seen a lot of, you know,
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  shout out David Cunningham and all the reporters down there and
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  giving us Insight. We never saw a lot of those
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  periods where they were truly run sets with you were like an
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  see, like get me what they're running sets.
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  Let me see. Who's on the field.
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  We never saw it, obviously, that will be unveiled Friday night.
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  All right, let's Flip It To The bread-and-butter Man.
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  The offensive line. So Shit, and Daniel Miller Tech
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  on the on the right side. I think that's.
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  And I would say that's really shocking but that's disturbing.
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  But let me break it down a little bit further than that
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  because I'm not as concerned as I think some people would be
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  because when you're talking about a too deep on the
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  offensive line, you're not really talking about a to a full
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  to line. Most of these guys are not going
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  to be playing. It's going to be a 7 to 8, man.
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  Rotation, you're going to get your starters and then you're
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  going to have, you know, your Braille and more that's going to
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  be a swing guard, probably Xavier Chaplin, that's going to
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  be a swing tackle and then you've got Jack Holly field at
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  Centre. Those are going to be the eight
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  guys that are going to primary reps at the position, barring
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  significant injury. Now, if we do have significant
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  injury, it gets a little scary. But we still have a traditional
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  eight-man rotation that most offensive line coaches are
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  comfortable with. I don't think there's a big flaw
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  in any of those first seven or eight guys.
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  After that, it's a very steep drop off.
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  All right. Do you think Xavier is ready to
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  play in the first month? Or is he one of those guys?
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  He's like the seven and a quarter and it's that first
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  month and been practice talking about, he's like, these guys are
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  getting better in the season and where we hope we don't have to
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  see him until after. After four three or four games,
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  I mean, you want to get him, some reps at least at Wofford
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  Saturday and hopefully Saturday at ODU, Friday, I'm proud of
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  you. At least it'll be a Friday night
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  at least at least at Wofford though.
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  You want to get him some significant reps but then you
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  probably don't want to put him in there unless you absolutely
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  have to after that because you probably want to say if we can
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  red shirt and great. If we can't that's fine too
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  because he's ready to play. So you know, you're holding him
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  back as much as you can. You get in maybe one or two
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  games early in the season and then unless you absolutely have
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  to get him reps. You kind of holding back.
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  Yeah, absolutely. Because what the hope is you get
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  into that November part of the schedule and you decide which
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  two games there. Yep, that you want him to play
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  in. To get more reps to get ready
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  for next year to probably be the FrontRunner for left tackle,
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  he's the left tackle in waiting for sure.
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  Yeah. He's the left tackle in Waiting,
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  he's the guy that's gonna relieve Silas of his duties at
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  the end of the season. Now we go.
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  All right, defensive in. Obviously with the news today
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  that CJ McRae is banged up there.
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  Potentially seeing if you will make the trip down to Norfolk
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  for Friday night and we heard that it's like, okay and I think
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  Brian would you got kind of a Is when you see three young guys on
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  that, too deep. Yeah, that was the big thing for
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  me, you know, seeing you know, McDonald was the one that jumped
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  off in terms of not expecting him to be at that point.
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  So seeing him there is interesting, but especially
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  Burgos and moist and the the true freshman in there, you
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  know, we got Burgos kind of in that that quasi two, two, three,
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  three, three deep at one end. You got moist in there and I
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  think, you know, once you get McRae back Hopefully, it's this
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  week. I think that's one of those
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  things where he's banged up apparently he practiced today.
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  So he's not it's not a significant injury but it might
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  be one of those. He's a guy we're going to need a
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  month from now. Let's not rush him back against
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  ODU. Well, it's a guy.
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  You feel like you're going to need more next week potentially
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  than this week? Absolutely.
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  You know, it's one of those things where if we're
• 22:38
  controlling this game in, CJ doesn't need to Play great less
• 22:42
  physical toll on his body, whatever.
• 22:44
  Part of the body is injured to get him healthy and be a full,
• 22:48
  go for Boston College, and I think that's the issue.
• 22:52
  But I think seeing those young guys you starting to see, you
• 22:56
  know, some of the older guys who have been here for a few years,
• 22:59
  no disrespect to them. Like Eli.
• 23:00
  Atoms are kind of getting in the back seat.
• 23:03
  Could they still see potential time?
• 23:04
  Yes, it's the line. You know, the bodies that aren't
• 23:08
  named. They're still going to get some
• 23:09
  play time. So don't I'm not going to be
• 23:11
  shy. About that.
• 23:12
  Yeah I'm kind of happy. I'll say this.
• 23:14
  I'm kind of happy. I'm not seeing Eli Adams in
• 23:17
  there and that's no knock on him personally.
• 23:19
  But based on his size and what he brings his pass rush was
• 23:27
  never in his speed was never Elite enough to justify what we
• 23:31
  gave up in his physical size. He would get pushed around he
• 23:37
  unless he was beating you around the edge with his speed.
• 23:40
  He didn't really bring a lot to the table solid tackler, but
• 23:45
  overall just not. Not a well-rounded player enough
• 23:48
  to have out there for more than a spot spot snap here or there.
• 23:54
  So seeing these guys, As these younger guys, come up, making
• 23:57
  plays, and challenging, some of those Veterans for these
• 24:01
  rotational spots. On the defensive line, I think,
• 24:03
  is a big thing. Yep.
• 24:05
  Now, what kind of was a shocker to me was a linebacker and no,
• 24:10
  not my crocheting. Those are exactly probably like
• 24:13
  we expected to see them, but when we take a look at the will,
• 24:18
  it's Jaden Keller. Gave McDonald or Alan Tisdale
• 24:24
  The triple or again, in at a position, unlike tight end where
• 24:30
  it's very unlikely. All three are going to be able
• 24:32
  to feel the same time. And I look at this and I just
• 24:36
  think I think Jaden Keller is coming on like a freaking
• 24:39
  freight train to take that spot. Yeah I mean it looks like Keller
• 24:43
  is I mean it's gonna be his I think by the end of the season
• 24:47
  like. If it if it isn't, you know,
• 24:50
  already he's obviously one a right now, he's the That's going
• 24:54
  to be on the field first. But the interesting thing that I
• 24:58
  saw in there and especially since we didn't see a guy like
• 25:01
  Dean Ferguson's name in here, seeing Jaden McDonald, kind of
• 25:06
  ahead of Alan Tisdale and we knew that Tisdale has been
• 25:08
  running with the threes during some of these scrimmage sessions
• 25:12
  in practice. But We didn't know if that was
• 25:17
  necessarily indicative of what the depth chart will look like,
• 25:19
  if that's just, you know, something that he's been doing.
• 25:23
  But apparently, he was wearing a scout team jersey one day.
• 25:27
  And like so this is this is an interesting situation, but I
• 25:32
  said it last week, you know, this can only be an elevation of
• 25:36
  playwright because when we talk about Alan Tisdale's play, it's
• 25:40
  always been inconsistent. He had a breakout year in
• 25:44
  nineteen and it's kind of Been steadily and meddling.
• 25:50
  He's been meddling. We know he had things going on
• 25:52
  in his life birth of a child and stuff like that.
• 25:55
  And that trust me that can that can get you from chasing your
• 25:58
  goals to sort of level setting and normally attempted to attack
• 26:03
  those goals again. So it's just interesting to see
• 26:06
  that but everything from Keller it's just he's getting the size.
• 26:11
  I mean he's 63 already he's already up in the 225 pound
• 26:15
  range and he Remember he was a recruited as a receiver if I
• 26:20
  don't recall, right, I believe. So, and he was an athlete.
• 26:25
  So this guy has some nasty nasty athleticism that.
• 26:31
  If you're talking about, you know, next year, is he the mic
• 26:35
  is potentially kalai. Lawson, who was seen at practice
• 26:38
  today, which is good, which is good, same way.
• 26:42
  Maybe he's getting closer to going in that little Nick, he
• 26:46
  had is gone. Gone.
• 26:47
  I hope so at least for the rest of the season.
• 26:50
  But if Keller, is that guy. I mean athletically in the
• 26:55
  linebacking corps, we're going to go from where we've been
• 26:57
  solid to back to. I think Tremaine, I think
• 27:03
  Xavier, I think some of those other guys like that which is a
• 27:05
  big step in the right direction in this era of college football.
• 27:10
  Yeah. And I just checked so he was
• 27:12
  recruited as a linebacker but he came in at 2020.
• 27:16
  Well, So he's put on 21 pounds and one and a half Seasons here.
• 27:22
  I think that's pretty big for him.
• 27:24
  I think that's going to and he's only going to get better going
• 27:27
  forward especially with guys like Marvin pry.
• 27:32
  Working with him, so heavily. So I'm looking forward to seeing
• 27:35
  what this kid can do long term for sure.
• 27:38
  Awesome. Well, last piece want to take a
• 27:40
  look at here is the corner back room and Brie on Murray.
• 27:47
  Ian and I'm Hannah cabin at the York.
• 27:51
  I'm not shocked to see this because I think you've been
• 27:54
  mentioning it over and over again about situation right
• 27:57
  there, some things Armani's, the better overall.
• 28:00
  But there are some things that Briana Marie does in certain
• 28:04
  situations, where he does benefit.
• 28:08
  So I think that's big. I think it's also think it's
• 28:12
  awesome to see the DJ Harvey is holding down the two slot behind
• 28:15
  Orion strong. Yeah, that's big.
• 28:19
  I like Harvey. I like that he's, you know, from
• 28:22
  all accounts is going to be the primary Nickelback when we go
• 28:24
  into that, that Personnel Group. So it's going to be interesting
• 28:29
  to see what happens with the Armani Chapman Breann.
• 28:32
  Marie combo there, you know, we I've mentioned it before Murray
• 28:36
  does pretty well. When he can drive on a route, he
• 28:41
  doesn't do great turning and running, especially with kind of
• 28:45
  the the Guys, that have that combination of speed and and
• 28:50
  strength and size. You know, he's five-ten, he's
• 28:56
  190, he's not Armani Chapman. He's got, who's got an inch on
• 28:59
  him and almost 20 pounds Armani? Can, you know, fight with those
• 29:05
  receivers at the line of scrimmage a little bit more and
• 29:09
  still make up some ground there. So there's a little bit of
• 29:11
  difference there between those two and I think Murray's, lack
• 29:14
  of size. He struggles against guys, We
• 29:17
  saw in the spring game with Caleb Smith, he struggles with
• 29:19
  that type of player, a player with good size, good strength,
• 29:24
  and above average speed. So there's probably going to be
• 29:29
  situations where Murray's out there for stretches and
• 29:32
  depending on how he's matchup and who he's matched up again,
• 29:36
  that could be good or bad for us.
• 29:38
  I like Chapman overall better though.
• 29:40
  Chapman is a more rounded player.
• 29:43
  There aren't the gaps when he gets against certain
• 29:47
  Competition, there has been some areas where, you know, the
• 29:53
  mental gaps, have been there where he hasn't been in the
• 29:56
  right place in terms of busted coverages and things like that.
• 30:01
  But if he can clean that stuff up, I think he's going to be all
• 30:04
  right there abso-freakin'-lutely.
• 30:06
  So if you guys haven't checked it out there, I'm always going
• 30:11
  to push. David Cunningham has it out
• 30:13
  there. I think you were a little
• 30:14
  article for Tech Sidelines today.
• 30:16
  Day discussing with the depth chart looks like take a look at
• 30:20
  it. It's going to be interesting to
• 30:21
  see what the product as one of our listeners here tonight.
• 30:27
  Matt Jones has said can't wait to see the own feel product.
• 30:30
  I think that's what we're all waiting for now, this change in
• 30:33
  culture, that's changing some philosophies, some upgrades at
• 30:36
  certain positions, and now that it's here, It's here.
• 30:42
  So this is what we're going to do.
• 30:44
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  Now back to the episode All right, Brian.
• 31:18
  So let's flip it here. Let's get to know the enemy, the
• 31:21
  ODU monarchs and let's start on the offensive side of the ball
• 31:25
  and let's talk about their quarterback, Hayden wolf of 65,
• 31:29
  235 pounds came out in 2019 as a three-star from Venice, Florida,
• 31:36
  and then, you know, last year, had a solid season started ten
• 31:41
  games, sixty-three percent, completion percentage liver,
• 31:45
  1,900 yards, Words, little over seven and a half per attempts,
• 31:49
  10 touchdown seven interceptions, you got to look
• 31:54
  at the tape. What's the tape telling you
• 31:56
  about this guy? Yeah.
• 31:58
  I mean Hayden wolf is a pretty good-looking quarterback.
• 32:01
  He does a good job of working through his progressions.
• 32:05
  The routes. He likes to throw the best.
• 32:08
  He throws a good seem good, fade kind of those intermediate
• 32:11
  intermediate routes. Just inside the hash just
• 32:15
  outside the hash. He sometimes inaccurate with
• 32:19
  those intermediate routes, especially over the middle.
• 32:21
  And I'm not talking about the, the, the Fades of the scenes but
• 32:24
  more of the, like, digs He's crossers things of that nature,
• 32:29
  he'll miss sometimes, at least interceptions, sometimes that
• 32:33
  least, overthrows, his eyes can be affected by the rush like
• 32:38
  most quarterbacks but it's especially true for a guy like
• 32:41
  him because he is a true pocket quarterback.
• 32:45
  He is not a quarterback that's going to move around a lot.
• 32:47
  He's not a quarterback that is going to take off a lot.
• 32:51
  He is a guy that's going to sit in the pocket waiting for it to
• 32:54
  come open. Go through his progressions and
• 32:56
  deliver it. So, we can get pressure on him
• 32:59
  early in the step down. That's going to improve our odds
• 33:01
  of getting off the field. Yeah.
• 33:03
  And you mentioned about not a true Russian quarterback.
• 33:05
  I mean, the data shows it. He only attempted to run 14
• 33:08
  times in 10 games last year and with when you accrued that with
• 33:12
  also the times he was sacked you as negative 92 yards, rushing
• 33:17
  the ball. So obviously the threats, not
• 33:19
  there at all but I know something you've been
• 33:22
  mentioning, Brian. Looking at this offense is
• 33:24
  talking about the mess. Shhhh, and what we should be
• 33:29
  doing with that concerning. Hayden wolf.
• 33:34
  Yeah, I mean just he's a statue back there he's not going to
• 33:37
  take off and run, there's no reason to respect the mesh point
• 33:41
  for the quarterback run because he's just not going to do it.
• 33:44
  It's not their attack. The running back.
• 33:48
  Make sure your backer is prepared because they do have
• 33:50
  some are BR p 0 type elements in this offense but there's no
• 33:54
  reason to respect the quarterback taking off and
• 33:57
  trying to get a first down. Alright, well let's flip it in.
• 34:01
  Let's talk about a couple of his favorite weapons here tonight.
• 34:03
  In the first one is a legitimately a very large human
• 34:07
  being that cunts. The tight end, six foot eight
• 34:13
  245 pounds when he came out in 2018.
• 34:17
  He was a four-star out of Camp Hill PA.
• 34:19
  He was a top 150 player, a top-five tight end in the
• 34:24
  country. He originally committed to Penn
• 34:26
  State. So Brent Prime mentioned it
• 34:29
  today. Hey I was one of the guys are
• 34:30
  recruited Zach. Know a lot about what use a good
• 34:33
  thing in my opinion, he did leave Penn State in 2021 through
• 34:39
  the portal. And Brawn, let's talk about this
• 34:43
  guy like what he is and he's is he their best player on the
• 34:48
  field in general? Yeah.
• 34:52
  I mean I would say he is their biggest Target in that offense,
• 34:57
  okay. In terms of volume he's going to
• 35:01
  be the guy that's going to get the heaviest Targets in the
• 35:03
  passing game. That doesn't mean he's going to
• 35:05
  rack up the most yards or anything like that, but he is
• 35:08
  the guy that is going to be targeted, the most and the
• 35:10
  offense, he's a big physical tight and you already talked
• 35:13
  about that. He's got that NFL size and
• 35:15
  athleticism that you would see in a top 150 power 5.
• 35:21
  Did tight in and he is their primary Red Zone threat as well.
• 35:28
  So when they get in the Red Zone they will look for him to get in
• 35:32
  the end zone. But he's definitely a guy that
• 35:34
  we've got to check constantly because they will hit him up.
• 35:37
  The seam, they will hit him outside of the hashes
• 35:41
  occasionally. So they'll line them up in
• 35:43
  different places, but he's still that kind of prototypical style
• 35:48
  tight end that you'll see in the NFL.
• 35:50
  Let me ask this for I get into some of the stats from last
• 35:53
  year. What do you think we're going to
• 35:55
  do coverage wise, is this going to be a bracket type coverage or
• 35:59
  do you think, you know, one of our safety's, our linebackers
• 36:02
  who are significantly athletic, even though they're going to
• 36:05
  give up size or going to hang with them, like what do you
• 36:07
  think the plan is to counter this guy?
• 36:12
  I think they're going to put their best coverage backers.
• 36:16
  Safety against him, fairly significantly and hope that we
• 36:19
  can get enough pressure with the Blitz and pressure with the
• 36:22
  Demons of wine to where he can't cause us too much trouble.
• 36:29
  Don't necessarily think we're going to bracket him.
• 36:32
  Yeah I think at that point that takes away some of what Mars and
• 36:38
  and prize defense is about. I think they're hoping they can
• 36:43
  put enough pressure on Wolf to where he can't deliver those
• 36:47
  passes on time and in the right location for Koontz to hurt us
• 36:51
  too bad. Yeah.
• 36:52
  And for coons last year 73 reception 692 yards nine and a
• 36:57
  half percent. Subsection with five touchdowns
• 37:00
  and this really was his first time playing a full season.
• 37:03
  He only played into a couple games at Penn State and 18 and
• 37:06
  19 did not play any 20 so you know he's obviously coming off a
• 37:11
  good year he's obviously got some physical attributes but
• 37:14
  luckily it's one of those weird things luckily you say somebody
• 37:18
  that knows him and that was in the building with him for three
• 37:21
  years is now coaching on the other side of the ball against
• 37:24
  him. So if there's anyone that
• 37:26
  potentially knows what's gonna be the best way to handle,
• 37:28
  Ellen, I would put that trust in print pry.
• 37:31
  Alright? So after cunts, probably their
• 37:35
  next biggest weapon, is Ali Jennings.
• 37:37
  Wide receiver 6-foot 296 pounds, a 3 star from Highland Springs.
• 37:43
  High School that was never offered by Virginia Tech when he
• 37:47
  came out. I will go ahead and make that
• 37:49
  note. He did own hair out.
• 37:51
  Yeah, he did originally commit to West Virginia back. 2019.
• 38:00
  And he came to ODU from the portal in 2021 where he kind of
• 38:05
  had a breakout season and Brian. I know you got to see some
• 38:08
  really good things on his tape. Yeah.
• 38:11
  He's a very solid route, Runner. He's got great quickness,
• 38:14
  especially in the intermediate passing game, he does have a
• 38:18
  drop every now and then nothing to really write home about, but
• 38:23
  they do happen, but he is good with catches in traffic.
• 38:27
  There's a lot of times where he's Targeted over the middle up
• 38:30
  the scene, where he can make that tough tough catch.
• 38:32
  Along the sideline, make a tough catch, and he's really big run
• 38:37
  after the catch guys. So when he, when he gets the
• 38:39
  ball in his hands he can do some some pretty filthy things down
• 38:42
  the field, definitely an NFL caliber type receiver in saying
• 38:47
  that we did not offer this kid out of Highland Springs.
• 38:51
  What the fuck are we thinking? But we just talked about the
• 38:55
  only two players on their team that I think could Potentially
• 38:58
  be starters for us. All right, good do I think when
• 39:06
  you've been kind of explaining him to me, see, in some of his
• 39:08
  dad is from last year, looking at a little bit of me, looking
• 39:11
  at highlight film, not looking at tape, like you I can't I
• 39:15
  think we're going to see early with this game is with the new
• 39:20
  you know, with the new stuff on defense.
• 39:24
  This is he's like a cocky guy if you're telling me that we're
• 39:27
  tackling them at the spot, he catches the ball.
• 39:29
  He's not able to get that right? Then some of this stuff is going
• 39:34
  to be very interesting and Levar Cooper.
• 39:38
  You know, here from Facebook saying that he thinks they're
• 39:41
  going to try to test our Corners back going down field.
• 39:46
  I think they might, but I also think I don't think Brent prize
• 39:50
  going to let them do that at all.
• 39:53
  I mean I think we're going to see a lot of heavy blitzing.
• 39:55
  I think I said I think they're going to put the pressure on
• 39:58
  Wolf to make a quick decision early in the snap count and get
• 40:02
  the ball out of his hands. I don't know if this offense is
• 40:05
  designed for that, they like the Intermediate stuff.
• 40:11
  Some of that takes a little time to develop.
• 40:13
  We're going to have opportunities to get sacks.
• 40:15
  We got to get home. We got to finish it and we got
• 40:18
  to make sure that we're moving will fall off his spot where
• 40:23
  He's either throwing off balance or he's having a throw on the
• 40:27
  Run. Because that's not his bread and
• 40:30
  butter. He likes to sit back there in
• 40:31
  the pocket and diagnose and deliver.
• 40:34
  All right, so that's going to be a key there and with Ali
• 40:36
  Jennings last year. I mean, he went over 1,000 yards
• 40:39
  and 13 game. 62 receptionist 1066 over 17 yards of reception.
• 40:44
  I think right there. You see, the yet the rack and
• 40:48
  the Yad with only five touchdown.
• 40:50
  So again, I want to see how are tackling, especially on the
• 40:53
  perimeter will definitely. He will definitely be a
• 40:55
  challenge to our cornerbacks and Our safeties along with the
• 41:00
  other parts of the defense, all right, Braun before we get into
• 41:04
  their best player. Give me just high level overview
• 41:07
  of what you see from this offensive line.
• 41:11
  Their average, they're very average and I'd say they're
• 41:18
  they're decently balance, but they are a little heavier on
• 41:21
  past Pro than on the Run. They're not going to pull you
• 41:25
  away. They do have a couple guys on
• 41:27
  that line. That do a pretty good job in the
• 41:31
  Run game. One, we're about to talk about
• 41:33
  here in a moment. But They got behind the down and
• 41:38
  distance a lot last year. And a lot of the rushing yards,
• 41:42
  they got were in some garbage time situations last year, okay?
• 41:47
  So it'll be interesting to see, you know what that looks like
• 41:52
  this year, if that offensive line has improved at all.
• 41:55
  But decent. But nothing to write home about.
• 42:00
  Got it in obviously, I think, you know, we've been talking
• 42:02
  about probably the best player who's getting some
• 42:05
  all-conference accolade. Preseason and Nick salivary.
• 42:08
  The right tackle, 663 16 years originally a 2 Star back in.
• 42:13
  2018 from Monroe, North Carolina.
• 42:16
  Obviously he's getting all the conference honors.
• 42:18
  Is he their best offensive lineman yet?
• 42:21
  Farther away their best offensive lineman?
• 42:23
  Definitely the most balanced offensive lineman in terms of
• 42:25
  what he can do in pass Pro. And what he does in the running
• 42:28
  game, I tell you probably their best run Blocker on the team,
• 42:33
  which you don't always see from a right tackle position.
• 42:36
  Ian and his past Pro is is as good as anybody else on that
• 42:41
  team as well. So good balance, he's not an
• 42:44
  elite player but there's really no weak area of his game that we
• 42:47
  can really attack consistently. No, I haven't seen much on this.
• 42:51
  But are they projecting him to stay at right side?
• 42:55
  I don't know for sure, I did not see a scouting report that
• 42:59
  showed that so I don't know if he's switching over to the left
• 43:02
  side. Yeah, I'm all effort that real
• 43:05
  quick while we take a look at the next guy here.
• 43:07
  And this is the last piece of the offense.
• 43:09
  We're going to look at here and his name is Blake Watson.
• 43:12
  Laughs, if you from Halifax County listening to this and
• 43:16
  it's not a school, the guy named League Watson lives in Roanoke.
• 43:19
  Now Blake Watson 5-foot £995. Originally recruited as a Wide
• 43:25
  receiver out of high school. He was from Green.
• 43:29
  Hope down in Cary. North Carolina was a two-star
• 43:32
  back in 2018. And, you know, Brian, I see the
• 43:36
  stat line. And, I mean, I hope one of our
• 43:38
  guys can do this to this year. I mean, 1112 yards over five of
• 43:43
  carry eight, touchdowns that much of an receiving game.
• 43:48
  But I mean, still something. What did, what did his tape show
• 43:51
  and why didn't he jump out to you as much as the other two?
• 43:55
  Offensive guys did. So the big thing is that he's
• 43:59
  not quite the game breaker that the other two are, you know, we
• 44:05
  see a guy like Koontz. He's really hard to match up
• 44:08
  against. He's the guy that can hurt you
• 44:11
  in the middle of the feel hurt you in the red zone, you can see
• 44:13
  a guy like Ali Jennings that can you take a quick route?
• 44:18
  Take it to the house, beat you, that intermediate game, you
• 44:22
  know, Watson is kind of a bread and butter he's used.
• 44:25
  It's a stick mover. He's got pretty good Vision but
• 44:30
  you know you don't really see him breaking off.
• 44:33
  Huge runs consistently he does have a burst when he gets to the
• 44:37
  second level though. So you got to make sure that
• 44:40
  we're at him at the point of attack, get him down before he
• 44:44
  breaks past that second level. So you got to wrap up and get
• 44:48
  him to the ground. He'll bite you.
• 44:49
  But he's got that kind of one cut style when cutting go so we
• 44:55
  definitely need to make sure when we get our hands on and we
• 44:57
  get him to the ground but he's not the game breaker type
• 45:01
  player. But he is a guy that will get 15
• 45:04
  to 20 carries a game and probably go for about 100 yards
• 45:07
  on those makes sense with the stat lines and everything.
• 45:10
  So again it's that key and I hope the stuff that's been
• 45:15
  biting Us in the ass. Last few years where we have
• 45:17
  running backs dead to rights for that.
• 45:20
  Three or four yard Moss begins to matriculate into Keeping into
• 45:25
  three to four large losses versus letting them.
• 45:27
  Break the tackle getting back to the line of scrimmage and in
• 45:30
  some cases getting positive yards because I think for me as
• 45:33
  a fan that is one of the most frustrating things when, you
• 45:38
  know, you can put a team in a bad situation and you're just
• 45:42
  letting it slip with piss-poor fundamentals in the NFL
• 45:46
  football. Absolutely.
• 45:48
  All right, Brian. Let's just kind of take a
• 45:49
  high-level look now at the offense.
• 45:51
  Obviously, it's Ricky Ronnie's offense.
• 45:54
  The guy Georgia Tech came in, yes.
• 45:56
  But they essentially, you can say they're from the same type
• 45:58
  tree. Now, I think the offensive line
• 46:02
  coach, you called, the Tulsa game.
• 46:04
  His name is slipping or you're right now.
• 46:06
  I didn't document that is going to be the play caller.
• 46:10
  But you know what are we seeing and what you expect to see
• 46:13
  Friday night from the Saudi you offense, In terms of
• 46:17
  play-calling it's going to be interesting, right?
• 46:20
  Because you got to get a brand new play.
• 46:22
  Caller brand new coordinator, you know, three weeks before the
• 46:27
  season starts ODU loses their quarterbacks coach and offensive
• 46:32
  coordinator. So for about a week looks like
• 46:35
  Ricky Ronnie was probably pulling triple duty at practice.
• 46:37
  Oh yeah until they worked out what that succession line was
• 46:42
  going to look like but I mean this is that you know multiple
• 46:47
  Smash Mouth spread RPO, if is the emphasis that will go
• 46:51
  multiple, but it's mostly going to be Smash Mouth spread with
• 46:54
  RPO Concepts in there. Like I've said with with the
• 47:00
  intermediate, that's their bread and butter especially on early
• 47:03
  Downs. When the defense isn't expecting
• 47:05
  it, they leaned heavily on their primary targets, Jennings Koontz
• 47:11
  to get open early in the snap wolf does do a good job of going
• 47:16
  through his progressions but usually when He does he's not
• 47:19
  that that's not going to be a big yard yard get her that's
• 47:21
  going to be something that helps them.
• 47:24
  Stay ahead of the sticks. It's not something that we're
• 47:28
  there. He's going through second and
• 47:30
  third progressions and then getting a 20 or 30 yard gain out
• 47:33
  of it. It's something where it's more
• 47:34
  of a, he's good at all, right? Where's my primary?
• 47:37
  Where's my secondary? Where's my check down?
• 47:39
  He gets to a check down. They get three or four yards and
• 47:44
  that if they're going to beat you with those intermediate
• 47:46
  plays, they're going to do it. Early in the snap and they have
• 47:48
  to do that because of the the limitations they have at
• 47:50
  quarterback in terms of athleticism.
• 47:54
  The other thing that in this is going to be a theme when we get
• 47:57
  to the defense as well, penalties sacks drops, will kill
• 48:01
  effective drives for this offense routinely especially
• 48:05
  when they're against kind of evenly matched or better
• 48:08
  competition which in this case would qualify as that.
• 48:13
  So you know, look for them to kind of shoot themselves in a It
• 48:17
  in the foot often, when they start getting some of those
• 48:20
  effective drives that end up being Drive Killers.
• 48:23
  Absolutely in y'all are going to see as we get into the Hokies
• 48:27
  Keys. Later about this penalties when
• 48:29
  I did the research. It was like, Jesus Christ, what
• 48:32
  an undisciplined team. But before we get there, there's
• 48:35
  teaser. We're going to look at the
• 48:37
  defensive side of the ball. Yeah, I've gotten better
• 48:40
  teachers over the years but let's talk about guy.
• 48:43
  The guy in the middle. Ryan Henry, the linebacker.
• 48:47
  Juuko 62, 225, 2019 3 star. He went to a sa Juco.
• 48:54
  He was originally from Miami South Ridge and he actually was
• 48:57
  originally a safety product. What do you see from Ryan Henry
• 49:02
  on the tape run? He's kind of above average with
• 49:06
  his coverage skills, but he's not his great against the run.
• 49:10
  But the big thing that helps him out is that he is a shirt, a
• 49:13
  killer but they don't really use him very much as a Blitzer or a
• 49:17
  pass rusher. He's primarily the guy that's
• 49:19
  going to be back in coverage, coming up when there's a run
• 49:24
  making a play there, he's not someone that they send and get a
• 49:27
  lot of tackles for loss sacks, things of that nature.
• 49:31
  He's not that type of disrupter. So is essentially truly is
• 49:36
  playing like a they are treating him as a safety at linebacker
• 49:39
  then versus converting to linebacker where he obviously
• 49:43
  has a bill to have the traits but maybe hasn't picked up that
• 49:46
  middle portion of the game. Dad maybe, I mean some of it is
• 49:50
  scheme as well. The way that deploy him is
• 49:54
  definitely more on the, the coverage Style.
• 49:59
  That's just what he does better and I think they kind of leaned
• 50:03
  on that. Got it, got it.
• 50:06
  All right. Well, let's look at one of the
• 50:07
  guys on the back end here and that's arterian Johnson.
• 50:11
  The five 1196 pound safety. Also, another Juco, he was from
• 50:17
  Gulf Coast Community College, regionally grew up in Wiggins
• 50:20
  Mississippi, what do you think? Arterian in my opinion he's the
• 50:26
  best player on their defense and it's probably not that close.
• 50:31
  The argument could be made for the next guy.
• 50:33
  We're going to talk about but Hot to me artery in Johnson's
• 50:36
  the best player on that defense. He cleans up a lot of their
• 50:40
  inconsistencies both in the passing game and the rushing
• 50:43
  game just with his play, very good tackler above average and
• 50:49
  coverage. He's the guy that's getting
• 50:51
  everybody where they need to be in that secondary.
• 50:56
  And again, cerebral, he's definitely The Head and
• 51:00
  Shoulders Above the Rest of the secondary, in my opinion.
• 51:03
  Yeah, and his stat lines. Um last year look, you know
• 51:06
  really good. I'm assuming he's probably more
• 51:08
  of a safety in the Box. I mean 92 combined tackles he
• 51:12
  had three and a half tackles for loss, he had two picks Six
• 51:16
  Paths, deflections so, where did you see him lined up?
• 51:19
  As he playing more of a free coming down or she playing more
• 51:22
  you know that strong Rover type position little more of the
• 51:26
  Rover. He's definitely playing in the
• 51:29
  Box a little bit more and he's a guy that again would On the
• 51:35
  running back, come up and making plays in the running game.
• 51:39
  So like I said, overall I think he's the guy that you want to
• 51:45
  make sure your accounting for as an offense.
• 51:50
  All right, let's take, let's stay on the back and go outside
• 51:53
  a little bit more. Let's take a look at Trey
• 51:55
  Hawkins. The third cornerback
• 51:58
  six-foot-three. 195 pounds of Texas product down in Temple,
• 52:02
  Texas. Actually, another Juco attended
• 52:05
  Trinity Valley, think of you. Here we go, is very familiar
• 52:08
  with that and, you know, a guy who played last year, seventy
• 52:13
  seven, tackles five tackles for loss, six pass deflections in a
• 52:16
  forced fumble soil, you know, a really good staff.
• 52:19
  One last year and obviously that body type, you know, is is he
• 52:24
  playing outside, or is he playing a little more hybrid
• 52:28
  position for ODU? Now he's playing outside.
• 52:32
  Okay. Yeah.
• 52:33
  And watching the tape, he was a lot better covering the the
• 52:37
  quick and intermediate stuff than he was some of the deep
• 52:40
  stuff he when he drives on a route that's when he's at his
• 52:46
  best. When he's having to turn and
• 52:51
  run, that's when you can potentially get some stuff
• 52:54
  behind him, he can get fooled with a double move and be deep
• 53:00
  because again, he likes to drive on routes.
• 53:02
  He's gonna he's gonna bite on those double moves from time to
• 53:06
  time and get beat deep. He has good quickness.
• 53:10
  But only above average, top-end speed.
• 53:13
  He's not not an elite Speedster. So, he really relies on that
• 53:17
  quickness. In that ability to drive on a
• 53:19
  routes to really impact his play.
• 53:22
  Did they have any video of him playing like a press coverage?
• 53:26
  Or was he always playing all four?
• 53:29
  He would it would mix it up. Okay.
• 53:31
  And he was decent impressed, but again it's kind of that that
• 53:36
  second phase that that he wasn't as great at.
• 53:41
  I always ask at because I see you know, him being potentially
• 53:44
  their best cornerback is who he gets matched up against right?
• 53:48
  And, you know, you think about somebody like Dwayne or Jaden
• 53:53
  probably little bit quicker, but when I think of someone like
• 53:56
  Caleb Smith Caleb will more strong.
• 54:00
  Caleb does have a little quickness, but he's one of those
• 54:02
  guys. A lot of players would not want
• 54:04
  to make a pretzel because Caleb has that strength to essentially
• 54:08
  shed the press and Caleb's got enough speed to Get by you and
• 54:12
  get down the field quickly. So be very interesting to see
• 54:14
  how and if they match up. All right, let's flip it back
• 54:18
  down to the defensive line. I know you had some Choice words
• 54:24
  about the defensive line in general about, you know, it
• 54:27
  essentially. Kind of rough to look at.
• 54:30
  But let's talk about that and then Marques Haynes.
• 54:34
  One of the defensive ends at six foot four, 240 from Bowie.
• 54:38
  Maryland, originally a two-star went to Fork.
• 54:41
  Union back in 2017 is when he came out, what does hangs look
• 54:47
  like on? Take.
• 54:49
  Yeah, he's definitely their most balanced player.
• 54:51
  They usually, he's on an opposite.
• 54:53
  The they'll use a stand-up in kind of like bar.
• 54:55
  No. Did last year and one side On
• 54:59
  the opposite. He's got his hand in the dirt.
• 55:01
  He's more of a true you know defensive end from a technique
• 55:06
  standpoint. He's above average against the
• 55:09
  Run, he's a decent pass rusher. Nothing to really write home
• 55:12
  about on that front but it's not, you know, a weakness, he'll
• 55:18
  occasionally flash, a big Drive, killing play with with some of
• 55:22
  his penetration especially in the Run game.
• 55:27
  But it's more consistent of a player in terms of his steady
• 55:30
  production and he is kind of a standout player that's making a
• 55:33
  ton of those game. Got it in last year.
• 55:38
  He killed her was their leader in Saxon five and a half.
• 55:41
  So not a big number. The team itself didn't have a
• 55:44
  lot of sacks didn't have a lot of turnovers.
• 55:47
  So Brian, you've kind of already mentioned it.
• 55:49
  They have a stand-up in what sort of Defense are they in?
• 55:53
  And what are some of the things that we should see from them on
• 55:56
  Friday night? Yeah, it's kind of similar to
• 56:00
  what we saw last year for the Hokies.
• 56:02
  It's a 425, they got to stand up in.
• 56:05
  They mix in a significant amount of Zone with some man main
• 56:08
  Concepts. They don't Blitz a ton, they
• 56:13
  will get aggressive on kind of third and medium and third and
• 56:16
  long but then it's usually in situations, it's not something
• 56:20
  where there you would call them an aggressive defense.
• 56:24
  But they do have good Pursuit both in the Run game and
• 56:27
  Intermediate passing game getting to those guys making
• 56:31
  plays after the catch. They don't really get enough
• 56:34
  pass rush. I know I've already talked about
• 56:36
  that for some of the double moves or slow developing routes,
• 56:39
  so that can be risky, when opposing offenses, are good with
• 56:43
  those type of Concepts. They are super undisciplined and
• 56:47
  prone to hurting themselves with penalties and miscues, this is a
• 56:52
  very undisciplined defense. They will give you first downs.
• 56:56
  They will give you first down. Towns for stupid stuff.
• 56:59
  They will give you first downs for procedural, stuff.
• 57:03
  They will give you first downs. Because for whatever reason,
• 57:07
  even in man coverage, a cornerback will run with a tight
• 57:11
  end, running a wheel instead of sticking with the Z receiver,
• 57:15
  like it's it shit like that. Constantly, they shoot
• 57:19
  themselves in the foot that results in some big plays, and
• 57:23
  you end up in a situation where You know, you're playing for
• 57:26
  behind a lot and they were playing from behind a lot last
• 57:29
  season, especially in the first what, six to seven games of that
• 57:33
  year. Very true.
• 57:35
  Now going through some of this tape that any of the Marshall
• 57:39
  tape come up on the defense, I did not watch Marshall.
• 57:45
  Okay, I had to ask, I know you're having to pick and find
• 57:48
  pieces of tape here and there and some tapes not readily
• 57:51
  available to us. So we move on and what will move
• 57:55
  on to next? Y'all is going to be the Hokies
• 57:57
  keys and what are the keys to this game and we want to see
• 58:02
  though keys with a Big W what's got to happen and I'm going to
• 58:06
  start here, Brian with turnovers.
• 58:08
  And when I look back last year with ODU, In their wins and
• 58:12
  their six wins in 2021, their turnover margin was plus two.
• 58:20
  So any kind of went like this and their wins.
• 58:23
  So basically in two of the six wins, they won the margin in
• 58:27
  one, they lost the margin. Three were even and against
• 58:31
  these six reinstate only had one team that was 500 or better than
• 58:35
  that was Middle Tennessee, State.
• 58:37
  And that game is one of the ones they won the margin on and they
• 58:41
  still only won that game by a touchdown. 24:17.
• 58:47
  Okay, so even on their wins, sloppiness is obvious on the
• 58:53
  offensive side of the ball. You know, they beat a Hampton
• 59:00
  team, they beat a couple three winning teams and that fight.
• 59:03
  If I use a one win team last year, so they got six wins last
• 59:07
  year, but they were not even close to Pretty Wings.
• 59:09
  Now, when you talk about their seven losses, they were negative
• 59:14
  10 in turnover margin. Which is just shitty because
• 59:19
  that's almost you're given the other team, the ball one and a
• 59:22
  half times a game that show up on the tape.
• 59:26
  Yeah a lot of it showed up on the tape particularly when they
• 59:30
  were playing Western Kentucky, who got off to a pretty awful
• 59:32
  start themselves last year in that game?
• 59:38
  The first half was a comedy of errors for that offense, against
• 59:45
  Western Kentucky, which did not Have a very good defense.
• 59:50
  There was a turnover. There was a bulb on the ground.
• 59:53
  There were just a lot of miscues across the board.
• 59:57
  And that resulted in them playing from behind
• 1:00:00
  significantly heading into halftime.
• 1:00:03
  You know, they came out with a better plan but there was still
• 1:00:07
  another turnover in the second half and they lost that margin.
• 1:00:12
  I think it was three to three to one in favor Western Kentucky
• 1:00:16
  and that game. Yeah, so overall it's one of the
• 1:00:20
  big Keys If Hokies win the turnover battle.
• 1:00:25
  This game's not even going to be closer than what we're
• 1:00:27
  predicting if it's insane. Like it was when they had those
• 1:00:30
  32 ones or 32 nothing's last year really, really ugly game.
• 1:00:36
  Alright, another thing you've mentioned it in both sides of
• 1:00:39
  the ball earlier. It's about being undisciplined
• 1:00:43
  about making miscues and its penalties.
• 1:00:45
  Last year out of 131 teams, they were eight hundred and second in
• 1:00:49
  penalty yards last year. That is bad.
• 1:00:53
  They were a team when they were at home, where most teams do not
• 1:00:57
  have a higher penalty because you're playing at home.
• 1:01:01
  Usually get phone calls, usually build more in a control.
• 1:01:05
  They averaged almost eight a game at home last year and then
• 1:01:09
  their losses 78 yards of penalties in the average for
• 1:01:16
  each of their seven losses. And even in the games they won,
• 1:01:22
  they still are averaging 60 yards.
• 1:01:25
  If this team steps on the field Friday and you tell me they're
• 1:01:28
  going to give eight penalties for 80 yards.
• 1:01:32
  Regardless of what side of the ball is all.
• 1:01:34
  If you say, you split it right down the middle, you're going to
• 1:01:36
  give us an extra 40 yards on offense.
• 1:01:39
  That's at least an extra two scores in my opinion.
• 1:01:41
  And if you do it, 40 yards on defense.
• 1:01:43
  There's going to be a turnover in there somewhere because
• 1:01:46
  you're going to get dialed up with a ton of pressure.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah, I think you're right there and I think that's, that's the
• 1:01:52
  problem that they had last year. We'll see.
• 1:01:55
  If that any of that has been cleaned up heading into this
• 1:01:58
  season. You know, they have the same
• 1:02:01
  coordinator on defense. I don't know if that necessarily
• 1:02:03
  is speaking to their own discipline, this or anything
• 1:02:05
  like that, but we'll see if that is something that has been
• 1:02:10
  remedied since that point, but they were as, as undisciplined
• 1:02:14
  is any team, you will see last year, especially on the
• 1:02:18
  defensive side of the ball. And I think those first two
• 1:02:21
  things. The first thing is obviously
• 1:02:24
  something the Hokies defense is looking at the penalties are
• 1:02:27
  kind of all over the place, right?
• 1:02:29
  Offensive and defensive side, he can affect both parts of the
• 1:02:32
  game, but when you see things like that, my immediate thought
• 1:02:37
  is even if you're keeping the same player, or the same
• 1:02:40
  coordinators to have the same players.
• 1:02:42
  Normally, you do not see drastic turnarounds in turnovers and, or
• 1:02:48
  penalties from one, you That usually those are the very
• 1:02:51
  gradual you go from the turnover margin being - 82.
• 1:02:58
  Okay now we're - 3 now. We're even now we're in the plus
• 1:03:02
  territory, same with penalties. You don't go from the just about
• 1:03:06
  the bottom. Two above middle of the pack in
• 1:03:09
  one season because a lot of times the players you have or
• 1:03:11
  the who you're returning and it's a cultural thing.
• 1:03:14
  So, those two I cannot see in the last thing we've talked
• 1:03:19
  about with the Hokies, Skis. Is there passing defense?
• 1:03:23
  And I know you said to of their better players are on the back
• 1:03:26
  end, but you've mentioned all night.
• 1:03:29
  You mentioned it up top, they don't have the pass rush.
• 1:03:33
  You can get double moves behind them even though they have a
• 1:03:35
  couple good players there because of no pass rush, they
• 1:03:40
  can't get that done. And last year it showed, you
• 1:03:42
  know, they gave up 264 yards a game through the air.
• 1:03:47
  You know, they basically only forced Seven interceptions in 13
• 1:03:52
  games in, if you look at the Sun Belt last year, right?
• 1:03:56
  No Conference USA Labour Conference USA, less relevant,
• 1:03:58
  USA Sunbelt this year. Yep.
• 1:04:01
  How many of those offensive run some sort of high-level passing
• 1:04:04
  game in to say you guys seven? Yes I mean it takes in one of
• 1:04:09
  the most as oriented leagues in a country.
• 1:04:12
  I mean Western Kentucky will only run just because you know
• 1:04:16
  just really want to do something different.
• 1:04:20
  I think they had like 12 total rushes in the game I watch.
• 1:04:23
  So I mean they don't run but they it's a lot of quick release
• 1:04:28
  stuff and you know, constantly again shooting themselves in the
• 1:04:33
  foot. They don't do a good job getting
• 1:04:36
  after the quarterback. And while they have one or two
• 1:04:41
  guys that are really good in coverage the area's elsewhere,
• 1:04:47
  they struggle. So it's kind of a mixed bag.
• 1:04:50
  Secondary, you got some really good players, some really high
• 1:04:53
  level players. And then the couple guys that
• 1:04:55
  are not very high level, you mix that with no pass rush.
• 1:04:59
  That's a recipe for disaster. And when I say, no passwords,
• 1:05:02
  folks, 23, and a half sacks for 13 games last year, that's less
• 1:05:07
  than two again. So on top of that, very little
• 1:05:13
  picks, its why? I looked at saying their past
• 1:05:15
  defense is a key, why is it a key?
• 1:05:17
  We have a guy like Grant Wells, who did play them, who did not
• 1:05:20
  play his best game against them but after that game against
• 1:05:24
  them, he cleaned up the rest of the seasons and did not have any
• 1:05:27
  more than two picks in any other game.
• 1:05:30
  So, you know, I we calculate all this.
• 1:05:34
  We start looking at the Players, we look at our players coaches
• 1:05:39
  and stuff. Like that.
• 1:05:40
  And you know, lo and behold it's time to predict this game, Ron
• 1:05:46
  Yeah, and I'll lead off here, you know, I think this is a
• 1:05:51
  statement game for the Brent pry era and I think that the Hokies
• 1:05:56
  are focused, they are ready to prove some doubters wrong and I
• 1:06:02
  think they come out there and they handle business in Norfolk.
• 1:06:05
  I've got the Hokies winning 41 to 17 All right, I am exactly
• 1:06:13
  with you, actually, when we, when we, when we talked about
• 1:06:17
  this yesterday, we were like Promised Land.
• 1:06:20
  Like, what's yours? What's your score, Brian?
• 1:06:22
  He's like, 4170. I'm like, son of a bitch.
• 1:06:25
  He looked at him, like, he's like what?
• 1:06:27
  I'm like. See exactly where I am.
• 1:06:29
  I'm in 4117 vt4, a lot of the reasons and I think a lot of
• 1:06:34
  those reasons, are you say statement game?
• 1:06:37
  And when you started talking about Hayden wolf in those
• 1:06:39
  players, they've Two good players that don't get me wrong.
• 1:06:43
  If they get the ball to them, they're going to make a little
• 1:06:45
  noise. But know, when a guy's is Statue
• 1:06:48
  Norwood, Brent prize going to do, he's going to have to get
• 1:06:51
  that ball released quicker than he ever has in his in his tenure
• 1:06:56
  as quarterback of. I think that's a big piece and
• 1:07:00
  also think the upside of having the Grant Wells with us this
• 1:07:04
  year, I guarantee you Tyler. Bowling walked in that room.
• 1:07:09
  Prep can just said Let's look at it because they're really not
• 1:07:13
  changing a lot about this game. We've got some more weapons.
• 1:07:16
  We got a better offensive line here.
• 1:07:19
  Wish, we had Malachi Thomas because I think we would really
• 1:07:21
  run it down their throat but I think the defense is going to
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  dictate this game a lot and I think the defense is going to be
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  so dating it that we're going to take some risks and I think
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  we're going to hit on a few risks early and I think as your
• 1:07:35
  hope hanging out over here in the man cave Friday night, I
• 1:07:37
  think for supporter take a couple shots.
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  And wrap the game up at 4117. Yeah, I mean, you talked about
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  what wells did against this defense last year when he was
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  playing with Marshall, wasn't his best game in terms of his
• 1:07:55
  interceptions but he had an efficient night.
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  Yeah. In terms of yardage and
• 1:08:01
  completion percentage, he was Thirty or forty six for 299.
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  He had two touchdowns, he threw two picks.
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  You'd like to see at least one of those taken off the board
• 1:08:10
  with 46 attempts. Right?
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  So, but, you know, one interception in 4406 of Not bad
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  to, you know, especially sometimes when they happen, not
• 1:08:21
  necessarily. If they happen, it's kind of you
• 1:08:23
  know, what kind of Shades one game, you know, One Direction or
• 1:08:26
  another, but he's sweaty slung, the ball all over the field,
• 1:08:30
  just they couldn't finish a lot of drives last year, and that
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  was the big, the big difference in that game being Marshal kind
• 1:08:39
  of walking away with it and having to get a touchdown and
• 1:08:42
  over time to seal it. Exactly.
• 1:08:44
  So again, we both predict a Tech wins, 4117, take take lady,
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  eight and a half because I think with also with the turmoil,
• 1:08:54
  going down there with the brand new offensive coordinator and
• 1:08:58
  you know obviously Ricky Ronnie knows Brent, prize defense and
• 1:09:02
  is bad as we want to say we're down we're not deep.
• 1:09:06
  There are some talented players on that defense that will I
• 1:09:10
  think keep them under control. All right, Brian.
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  So let's go one more segment here before you wrap up tonight
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  and is what we are going to call.
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  Big screeners. As it's been discussed on this
• 1:09:22
  program before I have a man cave set-up with three TVs.
• 1:09:27
  If you have three TVs or less, if you have less than three TVs,
• 1:09:34
  you're not doing it right in a man cave because there's no way
• 1:09:36
  you can actually pay attention. There's no way you can have fun
• 1:09:39
  on college football, Saturdays. Now, mr.
• 1:09:43
  C glistens. These purchases told and he is
• 1:09:46
  currently sitting in his man cave as I am sitting in mind.
• 1:09:50
  He also As a three TV set up now for Brian because Brian's a
• 1:09:55
  little more texted me. He has a couple of big screens
• 1:09:59
  and then he streams one off of his big monitors right there.
• 1:10:03
  So we're calling a big screeners because at some point, the games
• 1:10:08
  we discuss, right here, non-tech games are sort of a big screen
• 1:10:12
  games that are going to be on the big screens.
• 1:10:15
  And Brian, I know you want me to lead.
• 1:10:16
  This actually tell everybody what your setup is.
• 1:10:21
  Just so they know. All right, so right here, I've
• 1:10:25
  got a sixty five incher. Yeah, TCL is getting the Roku
• 1:10:31
  and it I've got another 40 inch Roku above me here, that can
• 1:10:36
  rotate from either straight above me or to a little caddy
• 1:10:40
  position. Next to the big, big one here
• 1:10:43
  and then I've got a 32-inch, ultrawide monitor that I am
• 1:10:48
  currently looking at you guys on.
• 1:10:51
  So, And and battle. That's my third screen, Curtis.
• 1:10:56
  Let them know what you got. Well, I'm sitting here with a 60
• 1:11:00
  inch and then 232 is above. And I am going to say this
• 1:11:04
  Brian's little swivel monitor. I know, I inspired that because
• 1:11:08
  both of the 32 inches in the man cave, our own swivels.
• 1:11:11
  So if I'm ever eating at the, at the bar table back here and I
• 1:11:16
  want to pay attention to that game.
• 1:11:18
  I just slightly swivel, it over here or during the season.
• 1:11:22
  And when we get that Maxon in those Sunbelt games on Tuesday
• 1:11:25
  nights that TV right there will be swiveled right here directly.
• 1:11:29
  So I do not miss Now when it comes to the big screeners,
• 1:11:34
  what's the game that I'm looking at?
• 1:11:36
  In kind of looking at this? From a betting line, we used to
• 1:11:39
  do picks last year when you're only doing one episode a week,
• 1:11:42
  you got to cut time because next week, at this time, we're
• 1:11:45
  recapping ODU and then prepping from BC.
• 1:11:48
  So, what my big screen or game this year?
• 1:11:50
  Or this week is, I'm looking at the Georgia.
• 1:11:54
  Oregon game down in Atlanta, Chick-fil-A kickoff, 3:30,
• 1:11:57
  Saturday afternoon. And George is coming off a
• 1:12:00
  massive National Championship with, you know, it really was
• 1:12:05
  with, you know, unbelievable sort of turn back.
• 1:12:08
  The clock clock style defense, which a shit ton of those guys
• 1:12:13
  went to the NFL and I know it's more than any team ever more
• 1:12:17
  than any team. In some of those guys played
• 1:12:25
  last year. But I also know on the offensive
• 1:12:27
  side of the ball Stetson Bennett isn't exactly a fighter pilot
• 1:12:32
  quarterback. He is a bus driver in last year
• 1:12:35
  with guys like George Pickens and James Cook.
• 1:12:39
  It was easier for the bus driver to look like a home.
• 1:12:42
  Run to look like a fighter power, to be honest.
• 1:12:45
  When I look at this game, organ has a good offensive line, Dan
• 1:12:49
  Landing, you Georgia defensive coordinators back out, his went
• 1:12:52
  out there to be a coach. They have a good number of
• 1:12:54
  returning starters. It, when I originally saw this
• 1:12:58
  game, I'm like, my expectation is, I think Georgia probably is
• 1:13:01
  going to win the game, probably by somewhere between eight and
• 1:13:03
  ten points when this line came open at 17 and a half.
• 1:13:09
  I just could, I'm trying to figure out, is, is Vegas?
• 1:13:14
  Looking at how many people left? Yes, I know they're playing in
• 1:13:16
  Atlanta and it's going to be a T20 Georgia fans, but 17 and a
• 1:13:21
  half to lay on a 10-1 team. Last year, that has a good
• 1:13:24
  offensive line when the Georgia defense, lost, its best players
• 1:13:28
  on the offensive line and the second level.
• 1:13:31
  I can't see that. Georgia May win the game but
• 1:13:35
  giving organ and give me the 17 and a half points because that's
• 1:13:39
  way too much to lay against a good team.
• 1:13:43
  Yeah. The 17 and a half line is where
• 1:13:45
  I'm question. If you were saying, I think if
• 1:13:48
  you if this a moneyline question you pick Georgia.
• 1:13:51
  Yes. When you got that big of a line
• 1:13:55
  17 and half is just too much. I know there's a lot of
• 1:13:59
  differences with that Oregon team coming in obviously their
• 1:14:03
  head coach is now down there in in Miami but this is still a
• 1:14:10
  solid Talent. Roster that is still coming in
• 1:14:15
  there. I don't think it's going to be a
• 1:14:17
  runaway for Georgia for the reasons you mentioned.
• 1:14:20
  The loss of town. I think they definitely reload.
• 1:14:23
  I don't think we see a significant drop off but we'll
• 1:14:26
  see enough of a drop-off especially week one for them to
• 1:14:31
  not be able to, you know, blow the doors, blow the doors off of
• 1:14:35
  a very solid organ. Team, that's my big Stringer.
• 1:14:39
  What's your big screen? You know, I kind of This around
• 1:14:43
  a couple different ways but ultimately landed on Utah, going
• 1:14:50
  to the swamp and facing the Gators.
• 1:14:54
  I was I was leaning towards the Backyard Brawl, it's on a
• 1:14:58
  Thursday night, it's two, it's two teams we play, it is two
• 1:15:03
  teams we play, but I don't think that is Marquise enough of a
• 1:15:08
  matchup in the big picture for it to Be a big screener.
• 1:15:14
  Obviously, since they're on different nights technically,
• 1:15:16
  they're both going to be big screeners but if I had to pick
• 1:15:20
  between the two, I would put Utah and Florida on there.
• 1:15:23
  And when I look at this game, you know, Utah is the the road
• 1:15:30
  favorite and it's minus 3. I'm going to, I'm going to still
• 1:15:38
  tell you Tha here. I think Utah is probably the To
• 1:15:42
  come out of the Pac-12. I think they are based on their
• 1:15:46
  record if they can get past this matchup that you're going to be
• 1:15:49
  a favorite team to make the college football playoff.
• 1:15:53
  So I like Utah here. I think it's probably still a
• 1:15:58
  high one score low to score game but I think they're going at
• 1:16:02
  least cover that three. Yeah, I'm kind of with you on
• 1:16:06
  that Utah returns a ton on just it for the team in general.
• 1:16:13
  And obviously the last thing we can remember from them last
• 1:16:16
  year's they kind of had a bitter taste in her mouth losing that
• 1:16:18
  game to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, right?
• 1:16:20
  All Spy field gold and basically Secondary was absolutely
• 1:16:24
  decimated. Yep.
• 1:16:27
  And they were having running back to play quarterback and
• 1:16:29
  safety. That's when you're in real
• 1:16:31
  Prospect early, planting like Ohio, State and the other piece
• 1:16:35
  is we don't know what Florida is yet under billing date.
• 1:16:38
  It's very early in the process. We've seen that team,
• 1:16:41
  underperformed the last few years.
• 1:16:44
  So to say, you have to open and now luckily, it is in the swamp.
• 1:16:49
  to me, if I'm looking at this game and I'm looking through I'm
• 1:16:53
  sort of looking through Vegas eyes to say you're giving three
• 1:16:57
  points on the home, will every home team?
• 1:17:00
  Should always get three points, right?
• 1:17:03
  So they're basically the and the swamp is probably probably good
• 1:17:06
  for five. Yeah.
• 1:17:08
  So basically, you know, they are really, really saying Utah's.
• 1:17:12
  Gonna win this game by more and, you know, or we shocked at
• 1:17:19
  Florida plays out of the 90 Napier's, a good coach and got
• 1:17:21
  talent, but One of those things where Kyle willingham's defense
• 1:17:25
  to, I think everybody's talking about the quarterback down in
• 1:17:28
  Florida, making some noise and it's like you're you're going to
• 1:17:33
  go against. Yeah, they're going to be saying
• 1:17:35
  it's the Pac-12 defense. If you see the way pack
• 1:17:38
  Willingham coaches, his defense is they hit hard.
• 1:17:40
  They don't play like a Pac-12 peanuts, they don't Implement
• 1:17:45
  me, they play more like an SEC team.
• 1:17:47
  That's so, you know, I'm kind of with you.
• 1:17:50
  It's gonna be interesting watching those games but it It's
• 1:17:53
  all weekend in general, man. I mean Thursday night, you
• 1:17:55
  mentioned backyard, brawls and kick it 7, sneaky sneaky Purdue
• 1:18:00
  Penn State. Penn State first game without
• 1:18:04
  Brent prai has to go to Jeff brohm in that offense.
• 1:18:08
  I mean they can easily come out 011.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah. Blinky.
• 1:18:15
  And then, you know, get into Saturday Arkansas, Cincinnati.
• 1:18:21
  And then the other game that we didn't put on a big screen or a
• 1:18:24
  because I can't figure that game out.
• 1:18:27
  Ohio State Notre Dame on Saturday night.
• 1:18:30
  I can't sleep because it's another big line and it's kind
• 1:18:34
  of like, well, you know how the state is a high-powered offense,
• 1:18:39
  it's in the shoe, it's unlike game.
• 1:18:42
  It's also a good matchups, LSU FSU, Sunday night.
• 1:18:45
  I mean, it's here we get five straight days of college
• 1:18:48
  football, man. And I'll say this about the
• 1:18:50
  Notre Dame, Ohio State game in the reason.
• 1:18:52
  I didn't call that my big screener is because Ohio,
• 1:18:58
  State's the heavy favorite in Ohio State could still lose that
• 1:19:01
  game and still make the college football playoff.
• 1:19:04
  Whereas, you look at Utah who is a kind of Dark Horse favorite to
• 1:19:09
  make the college football. Playoff if a Who's the Florida,
• 1:19:12
  especially if they lose badly to Florida there out there out so
• 1:19:16
  that that's kind of the difference there.
• 1:19:18
  I get that 110%. All right, Braun.
• 1:19:21
  I know there's some things breaking.
• 1:19:24
  I'm not going to discuss them because I'd eat you read into
• 1:19:26
  that more Jacob, uh, shout-out. I see your message.
• 1:19:31
  We're not putting it up there a because if it's in 24/7, it
• 1:19:36
  could be behind a pay wall. We also don't know if it's going
• 1:19:39
  to impact anything, we don't really know.
• 1:19:41
  Don't know what it is. We're going to have to go
• 1:19:43
  literally read this and talk about this after we go off in
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  just a second here. But if nothing else is breaking
• 1:19:49
  Ron that is going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary
• 1:19:53
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• 1:19:57
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