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Almost Famous OG: Knocking Down Walls with Sandra Mason · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the almost Famous OG's podcast. I am
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  Speaker 2: Bob Guiney, one of your co hosts, here with my
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  Speaker 2: beautiful friend Trista Sutter. She is not with us today,
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  Speaker 2: but another lovely lady is, and I am so excited
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  Speaker 2: to be talking with her today. She's on the new
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  Speaker 2: HG TV show Bachelor Mansion Takeover.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, one of our favorite goldens, so let's bring
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  Speaker 1: her in. It is Sandra Mason. Hi, Sandra, Hey.
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  Speaker 3: Bob Guiney. There's the man. How are you dood great?
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  Speaker 3: How's Canyon Grayson?
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  Speaker 1: She's doing great there. Oh, you're so sweet to remember
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  Speaker 1: all their names. They're all doing great.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, Canyon and I were just having this conversation. We
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  Speaker 2: had a school teacher conferences today, so I ran right
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  Speaker 2: from there to hear even I left a little bit
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  Speaker 2: early so I could get to talk to you, and
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  Speaker 2: Kenyon was giving me the rest of the download. But
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  Speaker 2: they all say hello, So you're getting love from everybody,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm saying hello, so great to see your face again.
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  Speaker 3: You too, Sugar?
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  Speaker 1: You here now?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I was just saying, yeah, it's from the last
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  Speaker 2: year's Carmel trip.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yep, yeah, well, great.
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  Speaker 2: To see you again, and great to see you on
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  Speaker 2: our on our small screens again too, of course with
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  Speaker 2: the Bachelor Mansion takeover on HGTV.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for you to be on that show.
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  Speaker 2: And excited for people to get to see you and
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  Speaker 2: maybe get to hear you a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit, a little bit, I mean, let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: Were you.
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  Speaker 1: Were you surprised?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it seems like it was kind of starting
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  Speaker 2: off as a well, let's see what we get, and
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  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it was incredibly competitive.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a pretty quick jump into the deep end
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  Speaker 2: of the shark pool, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 4: It was quick that I expected though, with the first
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  Speaker 4: challenge of the box, the mystery box.
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  Speaker 3: Or whatever, I that was.
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  Speaker 1: Challenging for all of us, the Golden hammer awaited.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Were you surprised?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, watching the show at home and
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  Speaker 2: I was getting so frustrated for you to get heard
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  Speaker 2: in that group of people.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, come on, let her talk.
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  Speaker 2: And then I mean, were you surprised how hard it
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  Speaker 2: was to get a word in edgewise? First and foremost
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  Speaker 2: and then second were you surprised when the votes came through,
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  Speaker 2: and you were you were sent home.
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  Speaker 4: Surprised on both, although I can tell you when the
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  Speaker 4: when Jill introduced.
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  Speaker 3: The fake date card and she read.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought, mm hmm, I think I'm going home
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  Speaker 4: because there had been some alliances formed off camera whatever,
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  Speaker 4: and I think a couple of girls were even on
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  Speaker 4: the same season or something, and yeah, they're all my
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  Speaker 4: I could have, they could be my granddaughters.
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  Speaker 1: Well, man, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean for you and Chris were two of the people
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  Speaker 2: in the crosshairs early there, and I'm like, what is
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  Speaker 2: this attack on my goldens?
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  Speaker 1: What are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, if they could eliminate three, maybe Joan would have
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  Speaker 4: been gone, who knows?
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah. Well, I gotta be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, you know, it was interesting. I mean, Jeremy
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  Speaker 2: got the boot the first week, and you, of course
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  Speaker 2: did not make it through that first that first time
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  Speaker 2: frame where they started with the eliminations. I was very
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  Speaker 2: sad to see you go. I was sad to see
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy go too. I thought that guy could have brought
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  Speaker 2: some to the table. To me, had some good insight.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed from a different perspective. But I was very
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  Speaker 2: happy that Chris made it through the gauntlet so that
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  Speaker 2: all our goldens weren't sent home on day.
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  Speaker 4: One be a tiebreaker. He made it through via tiebreaker exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The part that really I don't know made me feel like, well,
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  Speaker 4: wait a minute, what about this being a design show,
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  Speaker 4: was that before we got to really get into the
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  Speaker 4: meat of designing, we were gone, so well, no one
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  Speaker 4: knows I can design exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, your whole point of going on there, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't just to talk about you know, flat or
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  Speaker 2: semi gloss or you know, shine paint, which, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: That was the right decision.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you you you definitely got to approach that
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  Speaker 2: from the right perspective, from your paint choices. I know
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  Speaker 2: that from having kids, and you know, you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to have a house where everything is every wall you
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  Speaker 2: walk by is going to get.
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  Speaker 1: Marked up, right.
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  Speaker 4: But more than that, it is the producers were trying
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  Speaker 4: to get us to make a decision on they needed
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  Speaker 4: to order the paint, and the gaps we couldn't. They
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  Speaker 4: couldn't keep on subject. They bounce from paint to lamps,
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  Speaker 4: to carpets.
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  Speaker 3: To It was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and to the uh to the design element of
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  Speaker 2: the arch on a couple of bunk beds. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of talk going on there. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I did feel like during the challenge, you
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  Speaker 2: know it it was I'm sure there was a little
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  Speaker 2: editing involved, but obviously I'm sure not that much to
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  Speaker 2: the point where it didn't seem like you were being
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  Speaker 2: utilized and your strengths are being utilized during that time,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I had.
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  Speaker 1: To believe there was.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed like everyone was talking at once and no
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  Speaker 2: one was acquiescing.
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  Speaker 4: You had no idea, a lot of chatter going.
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  Speaker 3: On, oh mg, just talk all over each other.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know how they got I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how the editors got what they got out of that.
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  Speaker 3: But it was just back and forth, back and forth. Change,
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  Speaker 3: something changed, something.
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  Speaker 1: Un Yeah, there was a lot the clause were out.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're a real estate ation and you got a
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  Speaker 2: ton of experience with that, and so I mean from
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  Speaker 2: the perspective of you looking at because obviously, I mean
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  Speaker 2: you didn't even get to see the final reveals.
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  Speaker 1: Of what went on with the rooms.
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  Speaker 2: You know, where was your head when you had a
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  Speaker 2: chance to kind of take a look at that, because
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Bachelor manasion has become an iconic home
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  Speaker 2: right when it comes to a setting and you, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure have spent some time there, probably not a ton
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  Speaker 2: of time there, but it's like when you're when you're
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  Speaker 2: walking aroun you see some parts of the home that
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  Speaker 2: maybe shouldn't be touched, other elements they should. You know,
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  Speaker 2: what was what was your thought process on on what
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  Speaker 2: needed to be attacked in that house and on the
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  Speaker 2: reveals when you got to see the reveals.
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  Speaker 4: On that first after that first challenge, well, let me
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  Speaker 4: just say, going back to GB one, Golden Bachelor Season one,
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  Speaker 4: when we had some time to ourselves, I remember I'd
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  Speaker 4: walk around and look and say, oh my god, if
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  Speaker 4: I could, if I could redesign this room, I would
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  Speaker 4: do X, Y and Z, or look at this sestion
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  Speaker 4: such this boy, this is old and then old and
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  Speaker 4: antiquated and for this needs help see and being a
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  Speaker 4: real chor, I still am forty one years now, I
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  Speaker 4: have been in homes that were foreclosure, to homes that
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  Speaker 4: were grander than the mansion, and so I've seen it all.
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  Speaker 4: I've owned five homes. I've owned two airbnbs. So I've
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  Speaker 4: decorated a what my daughter decorate. So I had a
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  Speaker 4: little bit experience, you know, And I did my homework
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  Speaker 4: before this. I'd gone to fabric stores, I'd pulled swatches,
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  Speaker 4: I'd done some paint, some pre paint selections.
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  Speaker 3: So I did some homework.
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  Speaker 4: For this particular HGTV show. But yeah, Noah bail.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you didn't even get to pull out your your
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  Speaker 2: samples or anything.
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  Speaker 1: Did you not a thing?
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  Speaker 4: Yep?
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  Speaker 1: Man? Did you try to grab them for that first episode?
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  Speaker 4: Or I think there was There was one one time
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  Speaker 4: when when we were off camera that I pulled out
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  Speaker 4: some swatches in one of the gals, but they weren't interested.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was a lunch hour and they were
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  Speaker 4: trying to eat.
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  Speaker 2: So well, I got to imagine, because you you strike
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  Speaker 2: me as someone who you know, obviously, you've been very
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  Speaker 2: successful in your life and you've you've done a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't strike me as someone who is overly competitive,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't see that in you, and and maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'm misreading you, but I feel like I've gotten to
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  Speaker 2: know you, and I don't you don't strike me someone
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  Speaker 2: who's overly competitive, So I can imagine in that moment
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  Speaker 2: that you had to be kind of like, what is
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  Speaker 2: going on here?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, right, well, yeah, let maybe back up here.
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  Speaker 4: I am competitive on the pickleball court, I'm competitive in racquetball.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yes, but in this environment and even say
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  Speaker 4: in GB one, no, I'm not competing for a man's heart.
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  Speaker 4: If he wants me, he does, If he doesn't, he doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: And with this situation, I think I wanted to be competitive.
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  Speaker 4: But again, six voices are a lot of voices, and
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  Speaker 4: we kind of designated Joan as our team leader. But
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if that got respected.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean you you said it.
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  Speaker 2: I heard you say in a project in life and anything,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you can't all be the leader, like you
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  Speaker 2: kind of have some leaders, and you gotta have some
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  Speaker 2: people get in line to be the workers and the followers,
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  Speaker 2: and and you were willing to relegate yourself to that point,
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  Speaker 2: even though you have a lot more experience than than
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  Speaker 2: a lot of those people combined. Right, And so I
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  Speaker 2: feel like you know that was that could have been
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  Speaker 2: what dig you in, you know, unfortunately, right, But I
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  Speaker 2: do think it was the right choice because there comes
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  Speaker 2: a point where what are you just going to be
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  Speaker 2: louder than everybody else?
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  Speaker 1: I mean how many times? You know? And then so
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you this because I think it's important.
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  Speaker 2: You know, every time a show like this comes up, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I was not approached on this one, but back
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  Speaker 2: in the day when they first came out with Bachelor
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  Speaker 2: in Paradise and before that, Bachelor Pad, they would call
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  Speaker 2: me and be like, you know, what'd you think about
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  Speaker 2: doing these shows?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't have it. I don't have the.
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  Speaker 2: Cutthroat element in me. So, you know, like when it
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  Speaker 2: would come down to like forming an alliance.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, what are you talking about? Like, these
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  Speaker 1: people are my friends.
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  Speaker 2: I love them, So I guarantee you I would be
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  Speaker 2: the first one voted off on every one of these shows.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that, but I think it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: interesting when you're watching a bunch of people who are
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  Speaker 2: all from the same environment get into this room and
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  Speaker 2: start trying to get their opinions out. And I mean
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  Speaker 2: I was watching you sit there and finally you're like enough,
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  Speaker 2: you know, here's we got to choose the paint. The
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  Speaker 2: frustration was was palatable.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, if I had uttered what I was thinking the
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  Speaker 4: editors would have had a grand time. They no unemployment
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  Speaker 4: for them, They cutting, cutting, cutting.
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  Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Did you feel like as that vote was coming through,
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  Speaker 2: were you kind of like feeling like I might be
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  Speaker 2: on the chopping block here because no one will let
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  Speaker 2: me get a word in as wise?
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  Speaker 1: Were you feeling that way?
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  Speaker 4: Well, like I say, I felt that when Jill introduced
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  Speaker 4: the fate card, I thought, Okay, I'm in trouble because, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: no one knows I can design, not anyone there. No
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  Speaker 4: one on TV is ever going to know that I
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  Speaker 4: have some design background, and but they would know it.
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  Speaker 4: And I knew whether there was alliances or friendships or
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  Speaker 4: former friendships that are like some of the I think
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  Speaker 4: a couple of scales were even on the same season together,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken. Not only that they're all in
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  Speaker 4: the same age range, so they have an automatic bond
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  Speaker 4: something that I couldn't possibly have with them.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, but I mean, you and Joan had each other,
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  Speaker 2: which was nice. But I mean, obviously you know we
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  Speaker 2: saw that Joan voted for Jill.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, Well, I didn't see who you voted for.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, well, no you didn't, because they didn't show that part.
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  Speaker 4: And literally, when I voted for this person, it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: about design.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: It was because I had heard that she was missing
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  Speaker 4: her children, and when I said that to the camera,
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  Speaker 4: I voted for Courtney. But it wasn't about design or
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  Speaker 4: lack of It was about she was missing her babies,
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  Speaker 4: and I was thinking that babies were missing her and
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  Speaker 4: she wanted to And because we had no design, what
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  Speaker 4: am I trying to say? There was no impetus for design.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't choose to vote off anyone that made sense
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  Speaker 4: to me.
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  Speaker 1: So that was your rationale, which I think is kind.
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  Speaker 1: That's sweet.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to be kind. I wasn't trying to
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  Speaker 3: vote someone off because they couldn't design.
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  Speaker 1: Who right?
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  Speaker 3: Who knew?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we don't even know yet, right, we don't even
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  Speaker 2: know who good design and dog on it.
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  Speaker 4: I've been an HGTV or four years, so I surely
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  Speaker 4: thought this was going to be about design and not
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  Speaker 4: about who's popular, Whose voice is louder, who's who's who's richer?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know whah yeah, no, that's a bomber.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't get to see some of your design work,
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  Speaker 2: But who knows, maybe we will. You know, there's still
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  Speaker 2: time they might bring you back and do something else
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  Speaker 2: with you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that seems to be the way it
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  Speaker 1: goes lately.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I love I love seeing some of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite people up on the screen again. I love Dean
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  Speaker 2: and getting to see Dean up there, and and even
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  Speaker 2: getting to see his his big bright blue wall or
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  Speaker 2: a big bright blue ceiling rather come through.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of that? What did you think
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  Speaker 1: of the guy's room and the girls room?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I thought the blue ceiling didn't bother me. I
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  Speaker 4: just they didn't have any more tie in other than
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  Speaker 4: those ladders. I think they needed to repeat it the
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  Speaker 4: blue or had some other elements that would tie it
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  Speaker 4: all in together.
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  Speaker 3: Right now.
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  Speaker 4: The other room, I forgot what it was called. The
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  Speaker 4: other guy's room had.
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  Speaker 1: Ye, the Tuscany, the Tuscan room.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sanderini was bright and happy and the Santorini was
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  Speaker 3: just the opposite.
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  Speaker 4: It was dim, and it was the kind of room
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  Speaker 4: where you could go and reflect, read.
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  Speaker 3: Or drink your wine. Where Santorini was bright and happy.
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  Speaker 4: Let's let the let's go and let's get the makeup
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  Speaker 4: on or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, what did you think of the Ladies Room?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know you obviously had a hand in
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  Speaker 2: that to a certain degree. I know you weren't there
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  Speaker 2: for the final final, But what did you think of
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  Speaker 2: the Ladies room and what they came up with? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they ended up winning the competition.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they did a damn fine job. I
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  Speaker 3: really did. I liked what they put together, and I
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  Speaker 3: thought they tied the wall color.
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  Speaker 4: In with the curtains, and we wrestled a lot with
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  Speaker 4: the which you didn't see. We wrestled a lot with
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  Speaker 4: the with the fireplace being there and how to incorporated
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  Speaker 4: with that element that was going to stay. They couldn't
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  Speaker 4: tear the fireplace down, but they did. They did a
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  Speaker 4: great job in the end.
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  Speaker 3: I liked it.
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  Speaker 4: I liked the middle of the room where they had
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  Speaker 4: the seating where you could relax, They had the makeup side,
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  Speaker 4: they had They even talked about having room for suitcase
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  Speaker 4: or luggage underneath there because those rooms were so lacking
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  Speaker 4: in floor space for all the luggage that all the
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  Speaker 4: people had.
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  Speaker 2: It is sure, Yeah, I can imagine that had to
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  Speaker 2: be kind of one of those things where, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that we don't see right
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  Speaker 2: at home, but you, having lived there for a period
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  Speaker 2: of time, you kind of knew the functionality of the space,
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  Speaker 2: probably more so than anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for such a big house, it seemed to have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of unusable space. You know, not much you
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  Speaker 2: can do on that. And four it is there, I go, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for sure. I thought the bunk beds all look pretty nice.
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 4: I thought the finish, the fluted finish they chose, we
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  Speaker 4: chose because I was part of that, I thought that
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  Speaker 4: was great. It just gave some character to the bed
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  Speaker 4: something to look at. I mean, beds y honor, but
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  Speaker 4: when you dressed them up with the with the with
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  Speaker 4: the fluted wood and all that, it just just gave
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  Speaker 4: it an element of.
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  Speaker 3: It just looked good.
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  Speaker 4: Felt like you wanted to dive into one of those beds,
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  Speaker 4: shut those curtains and.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy it, right you noticed.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I did not with our good friend Joan on the
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: day too of the of the thing, when she said,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I feel like there's some some voices that
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: need to be heard, that aren't aren't being given enough
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: attention and respect, and we need to do that. And
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I knew that was about you, right, I mean, I
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: think I think everybody home knows that, right.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: I thought it was about me. I never asked her,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: but I thought it was.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, I wondered if maybe you guys had talked about
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: it or something that that's that's really cool that you
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: hadn't and.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: It talked about it.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: But you know, Jones a sweetheart, and Joe and I
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: had a friendship before the show. She might have indicated
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I think that we had. She and I were bunk mates.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: She was above and I was below, and so we had.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: She wasn't on our show very long, as you know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: but we there was a respect we had for one another.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: And I think she was speaking up on.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: My behalf and I just wanted to kiss her and
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: hugger and I love.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: J When we were all in Carmel last year together,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: she even brought up how much she loved you and
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: and just you know, so I thought it was really
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: fitting that the two of you were on the show together,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: and I just I just wish it would have lasted
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: longer for our viewership at home. Now. I will say this,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: your cast photo, I thought was pretty awesome.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I love seeing it. It said power tool confidence. Hi, yes, yes,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and I did see uh in.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Some of the b roll I saw you you had
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: the drill out. I think you had the power the
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you know, the screw drive, the power screwdriver. What was
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: your favorite power tool that you used on on the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: side of the show.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Well, on the set, uh, just just the table saw. Okay,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: but at home, I mean my garage. Now, I've got
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: a lot of tools because I've done I've done a
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: lot of work.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not a crafting with wood and that kind of thing.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: And yeah, furniture, I don't want to call it restoration,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: but changing some furniture around and care or air B
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: and B.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: So I have power tools, love them.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will tell you. I was building my
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: son's Pinewood Derby car and uh, we we weren't using
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: power tools at first, and then uh when we came
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: down the eleventh hour, I was like, we got to
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: do it, power sander.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: We did the whole bit. He was very, very excited.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: He didn't get to He's only seven, as you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: so he didn't really get to dig in too much.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought that was a good time.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Now, Okay, so you have your history as a real
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: estate agent, so you kind of know, you know, where
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: do you think when you put a house on the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: market and you you kind of walk through it, you're
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: evaluating it. Where do you think people get the biggest
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: bang for their buck if they're going to spend some
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: time doing a little updating, a little renovating. I mean,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: obviously the bedrooms were a big play in the mansion
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: because that's where you know, so many people have to stay.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: But when you're looking at a house, is it is
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: it always kitchens and bathrooms? Is it still kitchens and bathrooms?
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Still kitchens and bathrooms?
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: That will probably never change because one there's the most
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: expensive elements to change or rehab or remodel to it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: It's people spend a lot of time in the kitchen.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Kitchens. It's sort of the heart of the home typically
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: it is. Yeah, so yeah, kitchens and baths.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And what do you think on the opposite end, what
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: do you think people spend money and time on that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: actually have a negative impact or or a zero impact
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: that all, and they're thinking it should make a huge difference.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You know, Like a lot of.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Times I've heard people say, oh, well, you know, the
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: last thing you want to do is spend a bunch
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: of money landscape in your home before you're going to
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: sell it or whatever.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, well, what about the curb appeal? Right?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: So so what do you think about that? Like where
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: can people waste their money?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: That's point we'll take in the homes. Every home does
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: need curb appeal because driving up, seeing and comparing it
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: with the neighborhood and all that. It's very important. But again,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: you don't need to spend it a whole lot of time.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: It's it's you know, for every dollar you spend on landscaping,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: you're probably not getting.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: That back, right, It's not a dollar for dollar exchange,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: right right.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, market appeal is different than market value. So but
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: you want a property to appeal that doesn't necessarily increase
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: the value or diminish the value.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: But right, yeah, no, I like that. Now, Okay, one
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: more thing for you.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Obviously you do a lot of work yourself with your
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: your airbnbs and stuff like that. What do you think
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: is one of those just absolute musts that ad I
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Y woman should know? Right?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: What should she know? How is it building furniture? Is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it hanging pictures? Level? Is it changing the light bulb?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Like, what do you think are a couple of things
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you know that that a DIY person, especially when it's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: a woman, needs to pay attention to and needs to
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: make sure they know how to do.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, well again, power tools, If I think so.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: You don't have to call a guy, or you do
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: to call a neighbor, or you don't have to call
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: a professional, need to need to learn how to use
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the power tools. And fortunately we have this thing called
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: www and you can learn anything on the web. You
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: don't need a class or any structure. You go on
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: the web and you can learn how to use a drill,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: or you learn about drill bits and drivers and wrenches
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: and you, I mean, can learn about all this stuff.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: And then if you're lucky enough to have power tools
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: not have to rent them, then you can use them
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and try them out, do practice, run, practice building something.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Whether it comes out like stupid or not, you've got
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: to practice with those tools. So I would that's what
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I would say, power tools.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like it, okay good.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: The other thing is just safety, being aware of safety.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: We're in goggles, gloves, helmet, you're just being safe.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: In the past, I've been an anti goggle guy.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: But I will tell you that most recently, with my
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Pinewood Derby experiment, I decided I should probably throw on
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: some goggles to give a good example to my children.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: So I'm with you on the goggle tip. I'm with
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: you on that. I think it's important, you know. I mean,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I think ultimately for us,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you know, you got to look at it from the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: standpoint of we're both in that golden era of.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Life, you know, I mean golden anything.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I am to five fifty five this year, that's golden, okay.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: My daughter's fifty three and she I don't consider her golden.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Young Bud, thank you, Thank you by Fred.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: But can I can I say this while you're on
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: that subject, let me just say, HGTV, if you do
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: this again, you need more goldens.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Three was not enough.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: It's not fair.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: You needed more goldens, all right, I golding them.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But that's okay.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: No, I think that's good, especially when you're talking about
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you're right. There is this natural
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: inclination I think for for the younger people to kind
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: of group together, especially if they've been roommates on the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: show or whatever, or they've run into each other at
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the you know, the million different things that happen they
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: might have, you know, friendships or bias.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: That they have.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: You know, right there, I thought that's human. Yeah, I
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: will tell you I'm not. I can't remember what guy
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: it was when he was casting his vote, but he said, uh,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not voting for Chris. I'm not going to vote
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: for a guy who spent his whole afternoon building a
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: table or whatever, building a desk. I'm not voting that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: guy off. So I'm voting this guy off. And I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: can't remember who it was he voted for or who
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the guy even was. Frankly, but you know me, I'm not.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not that astute all the time.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying. I'm trying to. But now that you're
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: out of the running of the show.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: If you had to look at it from the standpoint
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: of everyone that's left, who would you who would you
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: want to see as the last guy, and who would
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: you want to see as the last lady?
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Who would I want to see or who do I
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: think would prevail?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: What would how about that? Who do you think who
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: do you think should be the last guy? And the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: last lady.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, just from the minimal conversations I had with some
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: of the guys, and they were all very respectful, all gentlemen.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: They were you know, if I could have a son,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I would have taken anyone up them. But I think
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Dean and I think Noah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Somehow, to me, they were.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: The most mature of the youngsters. They just sure the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: right focus and the right family background. Even yeah, do
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: not as much as Noah, but but somehow. Now with
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: the gals, uh, I guess I want to say Ali
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: and j V Joan. I call her j simply because
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: listening to them, they their backgrounds were probably a little
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: more suited to designing decor finished the finished look, not
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: so much the power tools, but the finish.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Okay and Ali, So we have gouys. I'm trying to
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: think which Ali is?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Alicia?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, Alicia? Oh? Okay, I didn't know you called her Ali. Okay,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that's perfect. That's what I was.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I was feeling like she was really in a in
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: a nice way, trying to sort of take the lead
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and and and you know, and I thought I thought
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: that in the at least in the initial episode there
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: when she and Joan were kind of and I think
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you were there too. I think you guys will have
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: the last one stand there and the other two took
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: off right, and you guys were like, you know, we
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: guess we don't want to lose this challenge. It's important,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: but if we got this time, let's use it. And
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I thought that was a pretty good way to look
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: at it because there was such limited time.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was crazy limited time, limited budget.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I think Chris said that it's like the last thing,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you know, we can do is get in front of
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: us or getting the way of ourselves getting this over
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the finish line.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was pretty good advice.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: So we could be in our own way, and I
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: think we were. They won, thank god, But I think
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: there was so much time we were in our own way. Yeah, yeah, so,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: but the outcome obviously was great. I'm proud of the
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: young ladies. I'm proud of every one of them because
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I think Taylor Frankie.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Paul is that her name killer. I think the guys.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Would be really appreciative of that primary bedroom and how
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: it wound up looking.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot they're going to be the ones right
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they might have moved in a day
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: or two after after the show was finished.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: No kidding, Well, let's hope that paint was drying, right, So, okay,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: shifting gears just a little bit here.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: So you obviously.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Everyone got to know you from a you call it
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: GB one y right, So Andre, your sister Andre was
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: on GB two, correct with mel And I'm curious, how
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: is she doing and how are the two of you?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Are you guys like setting up double dates?
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: What's going on with Unfortunately she lives in California. I'm
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: in Atlanta, so the best we do is online or
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: on the phone and can't quite set up dates. But
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you know, it's funny because her daughter and my daughters
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: all get together and they talk about their moms and
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: that kind of thing.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: So they have fun with it. They've got street grid
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: with their.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Friends and yeah, yeah, kind of like a big family
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: affair if you will, Yeah, yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I would say so for sure.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I would love to see the two of you
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: do some type of fun thing, you know, in the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: future with the Golden series where maybe the two of
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you are doing the picking.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, can you can you can you point
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: that out? The powers that be can pit them?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I will I'm gonna bring it to him, and while.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: You're at it, pitch the fact that the next time
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: they need more goldens.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Always the world is better having more goldens. That's how
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I feel. Yeah, you know, I feel like girl is
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: always better. How do you good for you to see
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: your boy Jesse Palmer again.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: JP, Well, I see Jesse all over. I see him
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: at football game. I see him doing color at the
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: football games. I see him down here in this market.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: He pitches for rooms to go, and there's some other
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: products he's doing.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Jesse is everywhere.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a busy man. He's good at what he does.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: He's so likable. He's he's he's just got that something
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: that it's syllable. He's got.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Well, he's a pretty good quarterback back in the day too.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: So I gotta be honest with you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I never give him that credit on there from being
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: in the practice squad of the Patriots. Girl, And you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: you know I love my football.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I know you do. Yeah, Sandra, Well, I love you.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you for being on it. Thanks for coming on
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and sharing your experience with us. I really appreciate it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's a good show. The only
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: thing they missed out on is that they don't have
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you on there a little bit longer.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: If you're asking me, aren't you a sweetheart? Thank you?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you for that. I don't disagree.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you again for being here, thanks for sharing
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: your experience with us, and we'll hope to see you
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: again really soon.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: All right, sweetie, bye bye, take care.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Bachelor Man should take over airs on Monday nights at
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: eight pm and HGTV, and each new episode will be
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: available to stream the next day on HBO Max and
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Discovery Plus.