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Lawyer Found Passed Out in Office Bathroom · NO FILTER

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  Speaker 1: This is The Bad Hire, the show with the best
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  Speaker 1: stories about the worst employees.
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  Speaker 2: We fired him, of course.
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  Speaker 1: People are crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's like an HR nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: Right? One bad hire stole all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy stuff. She got what she deserved.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. I'm your host, Ken Monroe, and every week we
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  Speaker 1: dive into real-life stories... From the wild world of work
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  Speaker 1: and what can happen when the wrong person gets the job.
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  Speaker 1: These stories aren't just crazy, they're cautionary tales about lessons
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  Speaker 1: learned the hard way. Let's get started. Hey, welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to another episode of The Bad Hire. I'm joined with
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  Speaker 1: Morgan and Emma.
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  Speaker 3: Hi guys.
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  Speaker 1: Good to have you guys again.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, as always.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a podcast where we... You know, basically
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  Speaker 1: read and react to viewers' stories, people who watch us
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  Speaker 1: to go bad in the hiring process or the firing process,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. A lot of great stories. It's been fun.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got some good ones today. So I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get started. How's that sound?
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Here it is.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get it.
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  Speaker 1: I found this one. The lawyer who went down in
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  Speaker 1: the stall. So if you.
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  Speaker 1: Bathroom? Just from the top, yeah. It starts off just right.
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  Speaker 1: So a few years after law school, my firm hires
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  Speaker 1: this brand new attorney. Right away, the guy's loud, big energy,
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  Speaker 1: talks fast, always bouncing off the walls. The kind of
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  Speaker 1: person where you think this dude might be on something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of months in, my boss goes to use
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  Speaker 1: the restroom one morning and finds him unconscious on the
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  Speaker 1: floor of the bathroom. At first, everyone panics thinking heart attack.
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  Speaker 1: 911 is called. EMTs show up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And nope, not a heart attack. The guy's high as
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  Speaker 1: a kite.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: They haul him out. And when he comes back to
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  Speaker 1: the firm, he says, look, if you want to, they
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  Speaker 1: say to him, look, if you want to keep your job,
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  Speaker 1: you got to take a drug test.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He refuses. Really? Boom. Fired on the spot. So three
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  Speaker 1: years of law school.
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  Speaker 2: Just didn't either way.
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  Speaker 1: Copy $ 100, 000 in debt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Passed the bar, got the job, and the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: blown up and ends on the bathroom, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom floor in a stall. So one bad decision,
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  Speaker 1: that's all it took. The man literally barred himself.
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  Speaker 2: I see what you did there. Very, yeah, very nice.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say somebody who was pre-law and
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  Speaker 2: also worked for a lot of different like lawyers and
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  Speaker 2: different stuff like that. People like that stand out because
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  Speaker 2: most of them are not like that at all. They
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  Speaker 2: have no energy. They are not full. So I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: he's still got like a sort.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying that your typical lawyer is not. No. Not
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  Speaker 1: built like that. No, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I was like, a lawyer?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A lawyer did that? That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It might have also been because I worked in domestic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Violence law, but. Yeah, that's crazy. That's something else.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Drugs are bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do drugs, guys. Please don't do drugs.
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  Speaker 1: Don't do drugs.
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  Speaker 2: They probably could have given him a second chance, too,
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  Speaker 2: if he had just taken a drug test.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he knew he was going to fail.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, they knew he was on drugs for
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  Speaker 2: them to even offer it.
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  Speaker 3: He was doomed either way. Like he takes it, he
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  Speaker 3: fails and he refuses to cause he knows it's going
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  Speaker 3: to fail.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is most, most companies, when you, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of companies, I'll say when, if you fail a drug test,
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  Speaker 1: it's not the end of your career. It's not the
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  Speaker 1: end of your job. Yeah. They'll try to get you
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  Speaker 1: some help. So, um, if you, if you openly about
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  Speaker 1: it and you ask for help, you know, they're generally
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  Speaker 1: obliged to want to help, especially if you're, Good at
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  Speaker 1: your job.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If you're bad at your job, maybe not so much. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the refund queen. Oh, Lord. This one goes back
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  Speaker 1: almost 30 years, this person writes. Back when I was
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  Speaker 1: working retail... We had this girl at the customer service
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  Speaker 1: counter who handled returns. She'd been there for years, super confident,
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  Speaker 1: knew the system inside and out. Turns out, she really
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  Speaker 1: knew the system.
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  Speaker 3: I guess that's one of the pluses to really knowing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they act like you don't know ball.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Trust me.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what she figured out. Every time a customer came
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  Speaker 1: in for a refund... she'd process it somehow. So the
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  Speaker 1: customer got their money back and then she'd quietly pocket
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  Speaker 1: the same amount to herself. So she was double dipping
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  Speaker 1: right under everyone's nose. So she was doing right in
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  Speaker 1: front of everyone. No one just, nobody caught on to
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  Speaker 1: it for a really long time. Walsh prevention started watching
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  Speaker 1: her apparently quietly, patiently, just watching, waiting for proof. By
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  Speaker 1: the time they're ready to move, She had taken almost $ 30, 000.
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  Speaker 1: This was 30 years ago, so that was.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: Why did it take them so long to catch on
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  Speaker 2: to that? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe a long time ago, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, 30 years ago, much difference. Yeah. Much more manual systems.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Then one day... It could be that she was crediting
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  Speaker 1: their credit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Back in the day... They'd be crediting the credit card,
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  Speaker 1: processing that. And then she was also pulling the cash
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  Speaker 1: and saying, yeah, I refunded. And you just, without all
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  Speaker 1: the systems today to watch all those transactions, you just
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  Speaker 1: like never know someone's doing that to you. Then one day,
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  Speaker 1: middle of the afternoon, the cops walk in. Right past customers,
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  Speaker 1: right past the checkout lanes. They cut, they cuff her
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  Speaker 1: on the spot and walk her out in front of everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Just like that. Gone. Years of work, reputation, everything. Traded
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  Speaker 1: for $ 30, 000. That's insane. One of the wildest things I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen on the job. And the craziest part, she
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  Speaker 1: almost got away with it. We always see these stories
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  Speaker 1: of people who steal. They always end up making it obvious,
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  Speaker 1: like flaunting it somehow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Didn't we have that one story where she was
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  Speaker 3: stealing clothes from the store, but then she'd walk in
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  Speaker 3: wearing this.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff that she stole?
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  Speaker 3: That's insane.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like she wanted to be caught. She was like, eh,
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  Speaker 2: this has gone on long enough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The charade's up.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they forgot.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like the new line that came in. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Time to move on to the free store.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Who's up? And where are you next?
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  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think it's me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what you got?
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  Speaker 3: All right. You said that lady was double dipping.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I have a double dipping story, too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: It's not this one. I'm about to read just the
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  Speaker 3: one after, but anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: My new coworker had a full psychotic break. We shared
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  Speaker 3: an office and at first it was little things. She'd
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  Speaker 3: mutter under her breath while she worked, but she wore
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  Speaker 3: headphones all day. So she didn't realize she was actually muttering.
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  Speaker 3: She was speaking loud enough for me to hear everything.
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  Speaker 3: So she was like talking to herself. I guess too loudly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: People do that a lot here.
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  Speaker 3: But what she was saying was terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Things like how she wanted to unalive everyone in the office.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's not like, oh, I have to send an
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  Speaker 2: email to Cindy.
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  Speaker 1: Crap.
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  Speaker 3: Or which pin would be the best to stab me
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  Speaker 3: or another worker with. The kinds of stuff she's muttering
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  Speaker 3: out loud. On top of that, she started hoarding anything
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  Speaker 3: that could be used as a weapon. I found a
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  Speaker 3: drawer full of staplers, piles of scissors, even a two
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  Speaker 3: by four that had been used to prop a door open.
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  Speaker 2: It was just sitting by her desk.
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  Speaker 3: She just shoved up under there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I went to management. But they didn't believe me. So
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  Speaker 3: I borrowed a co-worker's webcam.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because who believes that? That's real.
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  Speaker 1: Who believes? If you went to management and said, she's
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  Speaker 1: hoarding weapons at her desk. You're never going to believe this. Whatever, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's planning on stabbing me with a pen.
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  Speaker 1: You would look funny. You go there and it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: she has six staplers. They're weapons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: She's stealing staplers, selling them on eBay.
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  Speaker 3: So I borrowed a co-worker's webcam, set it up on
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  Speaker 3: my desk, and left it running while I went to lunch.
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  Speaker 3: When I got back, I put the footage on a
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  Speaker 3: USB stick and handed it to my manager. Ten minutes later,
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  Speaker 3: he pulled me into a meeting and told me to
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  Speaker 3: head home, but to tell everyone I was leaving for
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  Speaker 3: a client visit. The next morning, I walked in and
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  Speaker 3: noticed she wasn't at her desk. Then I heard glass shattering.
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  Speaker 3: She was in the conference room with my manager and
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  Speaker 3: the CEO. She had thrown a chair into the glass
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  Speaker 3: wall and smashed it. I watched her grab her laptop
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  Speaker 3: and hurl it at the CEO's head. It missed, but barely.
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  Speaker 3: A few people rushed in to restrain her until the
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  Speaker 3: police arrived.
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  Speaker 2: Holy cow.
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  Speaker 3: It was one of the scariest moments of my career.
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  Speaker 2: No, I would hope so. I would hope that's the
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  Speaker 2: scariest moment of your career.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of those stories where you're like him going
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  Speaker 3: and saying you're never going to believe this. Of course
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  Speaker 3: he didn't believe him. We hear stories like.
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  Speaker 1: That all the time where people just completely forget flip
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  Speaker 1: out when they're fired.
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  Speaker 3: They deserve to be fired. I see people in our
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  Speaker 3: TikTok comments talking about this is a fake story. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: bold of you to assume we're reading fake stories on
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  Speaker 3: this podcast. Bold of you to assume we're reading fake
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  Speaker 3: stories on this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly.
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  Speaker 3: You just never know about some people.
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  Speaker 1: I hear people freak out when they... You remember the
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  Speaker 1: story where the guy got fired for creating a little
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  Speaker 1: cocoon and sleeping in the box.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he lost his mind.
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  Speaker 1: He's lost. Yeah. Why? Why screaming? Why?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think that was one of my stories that I read.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't doubt that there is some storytelling
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  Speaker 1: in the story writing. Definitely.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe some fabrications a little bit, but for the most.
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  Speaker 2: Part, true. Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Here's my second one for today. A new guy shows
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  Speaker 3: up for his first day and the vice president can't
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  Speaker 3: stop bragging about him. He's a brilliant hire, game changer.
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  Speaker 3: Just wait until you see him at work. On day one,
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  Speaker 3: he strolls in around 10 a.m. Same thing the next day.
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  Speaker 3: Works two hours, then leaves. By midweek, they've already booked
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  Speaker 3: him on a business trip, flying out Wednesday and supposed
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  Speaker 3: to return Friday. But at the last minute, he rebooks
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  Speaker 3: himself on a midnight flight. And when Friday rolls around,
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  Speaker 3: he texts that He's taking a different flight and then
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  Speaker 3: just disappears. What he didn't realize is that a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of us had worked at his previous employer. And sure enough,
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  Speaker 3: someone from that previous employer text messaged us and said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: didn't you guys just hire so-and-so? Because I just saw
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  Speaker 3: him making copies here at the office.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's double dipping his job. So that's why he's
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  Speaker 2: only there for two hours because he's at the other
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  Speaker 2: company for the other time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's leaving for, I've got to go get some coffee. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: That's insane.
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  Speaker 3: Turns out he was double dipping, working both jobs at
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  Speaker 3: the same time at two science and tech companies, no less.
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  Speaker 3: And while the NDAs weren't strict, you still can't work
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  Speaker 3: for a potential competitor simultaneously.
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  Speaker 2: They're competitors too?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Two science and tech companies.
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  Speaker 1: I get this happening. Like, with remote work, it happens. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: People do this. They talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: On Reddit all the time. Just, like, giving advice on
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  Speaker 1: how to pull it off, you know, how to get
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  Speaker 1: three jobs.
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  Speaker 2: Just be a freelancer.
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  Speaker 1: To do it where you're actually going into the office.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that's... That's some.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's some moxie right there that's doing something.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me while I go to the bathroom. I got
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  Speaker 2: to take a call from my other company.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to be rolling at 10 every day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Best I can do.
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  Speaker 3: And... You guessed it. He was fired from both of
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  Speaker 3: those positions. Just like that, the brilliant hire turned into
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  Speaker 3: a two-for-one firing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 1: That's what those CEO to CEO calls.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, hey. Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Just to let you know, we're going to let this
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  Speaker 1: guy go.
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  Speaker 3: So funny.
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  Speaker 2: That's insane.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my stories for today.
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  Speaker 2: Those are awesome.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I have two today as well.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: My first story is we had a new hire who
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  Speaker 2: soon after starting at the job didn't show up for
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  Speaker 2: two weeks. No calls, no messages. Our written policy said
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  Speaker 2: involuntary termination after four days of a no show slash
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  Speaker 2: no call. So HR tried to fire him. I even
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  Speaker 2: had to have I even had them call his wife.
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  Speaker 2: She had no idea where he was. He was a
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  Speaker 2: top notch machinist. So I signed off. on the termination reluctantly.
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  Speaker 2: We inventoried his tools, put his toolbox on a pallet,
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  Speaker 2: and locked it in the shop. Then week three, at
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  Speaker 2: the start of his first shift, he walked in. Calm
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  Speaker 2: as anything, he came straight to my office and asked
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  Speaker 2: where his toolbox was. I told him, and I also
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  Speaker 2: told him he was no longer employed. He stared at me,
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  Speaker 2: and then a second later he goes, if I leave now,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to your house to off your family.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: I called 911 within minutes. A dozen officers showed up
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  Speaker 2: and handcuffed him on the shop floor. He ended up
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  Speaker 2: in the County lockup later.
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  Speaker 1: Later.
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  Speaker 2: I heard him later. I heard he'd gotten into a
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  Speaker 2: fight with another inmate and spent time recovering from that too.
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  Speaker 2: We shipped his toolboxes home. I later learned he'd struggled
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  Speaker 2: with drug and alcohol binges periodically. He had kids, he
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: had real talent and it was a complicated story. It,
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  Speaker 2: And then this says he was an incredibly skilled person
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  Speaker 2: and he was also undeniably dangerous and it could have
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  Speaker 2: costed lives. So that day taught me a hard lesson
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  Speaker 2: about safety and judgment and talent does not excuse it.
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  Speaker 3: That's what's crazy is that you make a threat like. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: As crazy as that. And like, but. You should have
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  Speaker 3: just called and said, hey, I'm not coming in. Like,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't shut up for two weeks and said nothing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It could have been easily avoided.
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  Speaker 1: He was on a bender.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, even his wife didn't know where he was. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's a scary thought. Like, you call somebody's wife and
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: it's not like he's just, like, playing hooky. He's missing.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Like, that sounds like a danger.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: His wife, because she probably thought that he was at work, too,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: some of those days. For sure.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: For sure. I don't know. She's probably used to the benders.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe so.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that, but yeah, probably.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: My second one is a little bit shorter. A few
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: days into his new job, the guy turns his camera
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: on during a company-wide Zoom meeting at 10 a.m. And
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: where is he? Laying in bed, not sitting up, flower
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: on his back, head on the pillow, no shirt on,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: holding his phone above his face.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Nuzzling his cat?
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: No, no cat nuzzling. The best part, cameras weren't even required.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: 90% of the company keeps theirs off, but he chose
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: to turn his on like that. When management asked him
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: about it, his response was, well, nobody told me what
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: the working hours are. For the record, they were 8
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: to 4, and if there's a company-wide meeting scheduled during
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: that time, you can probably assume... that might be your
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: working hours as well.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Right. So wait, he went to a company meeting saying, oh,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was working hours?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if I join a meeting and everybody has
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: their cameras off and I'm in bed, why would I
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: turn my camera on?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: It's like it'd be the one time you would like.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Turn it off. Just turn it off. It's like somebody
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: joining our company meeting.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, there is like some weird pandemic of
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: shirt off... Weird behavior.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Cat nuzzling. Bong hitting. It's nuts. We could just do
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: a series on remote working.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: We really could.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: There's not one thing that you could tell me that
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: would shock me that some fool did on.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: On a Zoom meeting.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: It's just beyond me. That's insane. The craziness.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I think. When I think about. I listen
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to all these stories all the time. The one thing
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that kind of gets to me is like. You never.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: that the person you interview is so often not the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: person that you hire. They put up a really good show.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Some are really good at it. They're really good at
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: getting through. And then as they relax in the job,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: sometimes on the first day, but oftentimes as they relax
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: on the job or as time goes by, their true
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: self begins to reveal. And many times I think you
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: don't even know who you hired whether they were any
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: good or not until much later.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Right. And then, and then we hear stories all the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: time where someone was great. I think this short last where,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you know, person's great. And then all of a sudden,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you know, something happens and they just go, they go
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: off the rails.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Um, the hiring is, is just so challenging to get right.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I think. Yeah. You know, um, for the people who are,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: who do it, you know, HR pros and, talent folks,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: you just like, what a job. I mean, their hires
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: can make, or you just can just make or break
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a company. And, and, uh, regardless, I don't think they,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't, you probably don't get through a
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: career without, you know, some train wrecks that. Yeah. That's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. And I think it probably happens to everybody.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Well, that was good.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Good stuff. Good stories. All right. Well, we've got the $ 10, 000 contest. Um,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So you guys, if you're out there and you're listening
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and you have some stories like we were just talking about,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: send them in. We want to hear them. Send them
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to them. Go to thebadhire.com. You can find an area
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: on there to submit your stories. You'll give us some information.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: We'll send you a link, I think is what happens.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: We send you a link to a page where you
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: can go and submit, read the rules, all that kind
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: of fun stuff. And you can stay anonymous, if you'd like.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: We'll know who you are because you may win $ 10, 000.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: You want to tell us who you are. But if
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you just want to submit a story and you don't
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: want us to know and you want to change the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: names and all that, we're happy to do that. But
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: if you do want to, you don't mind telling the story,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: we may invite you on the show to read it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: You can do a dial in. It's kind of Zoom
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: meeting to come in and and do part of the show, um,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: be a guest, uh, or just submit it and we'll
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: read it. And, um, if it's the best story of
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the season, we're going to pay somebody $ 10, 000. It might
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: as well be you. Yeah. So, uh, submit it. And, uh,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: we're doing a lot of outreach, uh, online, um, to help, uh,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: define folks who got great stories to send to us.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So if you get something from us, we're, it's legit.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And we would, um, tell you, Check it out. Read. Respond.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Send us a good story. All right. Well, I enjoyed it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Until next time.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: See you guys.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Bye.