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- 0:00It's stupid. Welcome everybody, Welcome to this week's edition is a real good
- 0:20show. Episodember seven hundred and six for August twenty four, two thousand,
- 0:25run three. This your a w all in preview and Predictions edition of ass
- 0:31All Team You. I am one after show. I am Jeff Peck joined
- 0:37every single week on my coast, the one only Dctor Trey Franklin, Doctor
- 0:40Trey, Are you all in? My friend? Like? What what am
- 0:46I? All in? And I'm not in. I'm not in a rush,
- 0:48I'm not in a hurry, I'm not in any kind of jelly or
- 0:52jam and I'm and I'm not in England, So I guess I'm kind of
- 0:58in kind of in. That could be the next the follow up to all
- 1:02in or all out, just so you do all in all out and then
- 1:06another week later you do kind of in. How about that? Well,
- 1:08I think I think you do all in all out. Then you do shake
- 1:11it all about and then the follow up that is aw hokey poke Okay,
- 1:17yeah, just four back to back to back pay per views like that?
- 1:23Actually a hokey pokey sounds like maybe an impact pay per view. Okay,
- 1:29yeah, they do a little bit more like hardcore wrestling for hokey pokey,
- 1:34I mean, but then again, w to do Great Balls of Fire so
- 1:36you might see WW hokey pokey. All right, we have to reset the
- 1:41clock now it has been now the record was twenty eight days since we last
- 1:46reference Great Balls of Fire. Now we're back down to zero. So for
- 1:49a throwaway podcast, and like July or excuse pay per view in July twenty
- 1:53eighteen, we do reference that show quite often. Do you remember what the
- 1:59main event was for that show? Was it Joe and Brock, Joe and
- 2:05Braun? I believe Braun. Okay, yeah, let me make sure I
- 2:07got that right. I know it involved large men flapping meat at Great Balls
- 2:14of Fire? Was that how he teased it? Braun? I don't know,
- 2:16but I just took the big E reference and ran with it right there
- 2:20because it made a lot of sense and the pun was intentional. July twenty
- 2:23seventeen. And I believe you're right. It was Brock and Samoa. Joe
- 2:28was the headline. I was Ron and Braun. It was Braun versus Roman
- 2:30in an ambulance match that Braun Stroman actually defeated Roman in and then I think
- 2:35we came back and they did Joe Braun and Brock. They did some kind
- 2:39of three way or four way of those guys too, either right before that
- 2:43paper view, were right after that paper view. Next paper view was battle
- 2:46Ground. Let's see here. Battle Ground was headlined by Gender Mahal defeating Randy
- 2:53Orton in a Punjabi prison match. That was the next show. July two
- 2:57was a SmackDown branded show. Yeah, okay, that's right, brace Split
- 3:01yeah yeah yeah yeah. So then wait, so then I'm looking at next
- 3:07show would have been Summer Slammer Slam. You may be right on that one.
- 3:12Yep, brocka go ahead. That curs w. We had a match
- 3:16where it's like three large men fighting each other, which was like a basic
- 3:20man you know dream Brock versus Braun versus Roman versus Samoa Joe at Summer Slam
- 3:27twenty seventeen. All right, I was in the ballpark. I forgot Romans
- 3:30considered a big man compared to Joe, Braun and Brock. Good memory,
- 3:34Good memory there, Doctor Trey so Brock and Samoa Joe was one of headlined
- 3:38that Great Balls of Fire paper viewer reset. I think Great Balls of fire
- 3:40referenced clock here on SRTU have a Little Fun Too to kick off the show.
- 3:46But unfortunately, a couple of hours ago, we did receive news that
- 3:52w WE Hall of Famer Terry Funk had passed away. I mean, one
- 3:58of the most influential wrestlers I feel like of all time, doctor Trey.
- 4:05I mean, he was a regular professional wrestler that dabbled into brawling, that
- 4:13dabbled into hardcore wrestling, revitalized his career at several points. Really is one
- 4:19of the reasons why ECW got so big in the late nineties was the inclusion
- 4:25of Terry Funk. Truly, truly, truly a one of a kind talent.
- 4:31I mean, very sad news tonight do Tray Too to kick off the
- 4:35show here, as we learned that Terry Funk had passed away. Sadly,
- 4:39Yeah, I heard about it on my drive in from Tennessee today to get
- 4:44back home, and it wasn't surprising. The last pictures we saw Terry,
- 4:49he wasn't in great shape. And you know, like I'm for being a
- 4:55wrestling fan for forty years, I didn't get into Terry Funk, and really
- 5:00the appreciation of Terry Funk until much later in his career. Like my first
- 5:03memory of Terry Funk is the back to back matches he had with Rick Flair
- 5:08at WCW when they brought him in as a basically a play by play guy,
- 5:12and then he attacked Flair after the Steamboat trilogy. Pile drove up to
- 5:15the table and I was like, ooh, I hate that guy. And
- 5:17then my dad is the one who taught, you know, told me more
- 5:21about Terry Funk. We saw him in Roadhouse and then ECW launch and I
- 5:27learned more about him. And then you know, you're just like, oh
- 5:30my god, Like this guy's influenced with me people, and you know,
- 5:32kind of a technical wrestler and then a brawler. And then you know,
- 5:35we saw this stuff in ECW and this stuff, you know, started catching
- 5:39the videos of stuff with him and Captain's Jack and Japan, and then you're
- 5:43like wow, and then you know the attitude are he reinventing himself again and
- 5:46putting on panty hose and then all the way through now like the man is
- 5:50legitimately that there will never be another guy like Terry Funk. I mean,
- 5:56the man, the man was Middle Asian crazy, for fifty years, So
- 5:59I mean, I mean, I don't know about you. The closest thing
- 6:01we have to a Terry Funk right now is maybe a John Moxley. But
- 6:06you know, his influence throughout wrestling, whether it was the Texas guys or
- 6:14you know, the Fucking Nojo or the hardcore wrestlers, their deathmatch wrestlers,
- 6:18or the gimmick wrestlers. Like, his influence spans so many styles of wrestling
- 6:25that it's really really incredible to see how much I don't say paved the way
- 6:30for guys, but like really just opened doors and open up eyes to different
- 6:33styles of wrestling. So just one of the most well rounded wrestlers in the
- 6:39history of our business. So from a personal standpoint, I had the absolute
- 6:45pleasure and honor to interview Terry Funk about thirteen years ago. When I heard
- 6:50the news, I immediately thought of that interview and everything that led up to
- 6:55it. So at that period of time, I was on this podcast called
- 6:59The Wheelhouse with Mike Bower and Chris Cause and we've made available this podcast as
- 7:06well, which I'll get to. And we had a fantastic relationship with Ring
- 7:11of Honor Wrestling with Kerry Silkin when he owned the company. I was going
- 7:14to like every New York City show in two thousand and nine, twenty ten,
- 7:17and then into two thousand and eleven before they sold to Sinclair Broadcast Group.
- 7:23So for every one of their shows in New York, they would always
- 7:27be so kind to give us some sort of wrestler to interview, and I
- 7:32would interview Claude Doocasticnolie, at one point interviewed Roderick Strong. Had this opportunity
- 7:42time and time again, and then we were pitched the opportunity to interview Terry
- 7:46Funk, who for Glory by Honor I believe it was nine in two thousand
- 7:53ten, he was acting as the special enforcer outside the ring for the Tyler
- 7:59Black rogeris Wrong match for the ROH World Championship. Tyler Black now known as
- 8:03Seth Rons. It was his last match of ring Vroon and Wrestling before going
- 8:05to WW and Terry Funk was involved. So we had the opportunity to interview
- 8:09Terry Funk to promote the show and leading into it, like Roh gave me
- 8:16his home phone number and him and I played phone tag and it was on
- 8:20my old phone. I wish I still had it, but Terry Funk like
- 8:24leaves me this voicemail and it was like him asking his wife, like,
- 8:31you know, do I leave a message. It was like listening to this
- 8:35elderly man who wasn't up on technology but was also a wrestling legend, like
- 8:41leave this very funny, like grandpa esque voicemail on my phone. And it
- 8:48was so cool. And then we led into interviewing him days later. That
- 8:54day later, and it was one of the first real big interviews we ever
- 9:01had on our podcast, and it was Terry Funk, and I think we
- 9:03talked to him for like thirty to forty five minutes. And to make a
- 9:07long story short, we we we actually interviewed him on August twenty fourth,
- 9:13twenty ten, nearly thirteen years the day where he passes away ago, which
- 9:20is insane that it was a raid around this time as well, and the
- 9:22day that this podcast drops is on August twenty four, twenty twenty three,
- 9:26thirteen years later. That we've made this podcast available. Right now, it's
- 9:31up on realgutrader dot com. By the time that this podcast drops, it
- 9:35should be up on our subscription feeds, up on iTunes and everywhere else,
- 9:39and I encourage everybody to listen to it. Obviously it's a bit dated.
- 9:43You'll hear us be talking about stuff that was going on woe at the time,
- 9:46but it was so cool to talk to Terry Funk about his career.
- 9:50It's it's a broadcasting highlight doc tray, and it was like the first real
- 9:56instance that I got to interview somebody that like I knew and it wasn't some
- 10:01sort of blogger or anything like that that we were doing at the time.
- 10:05It was Terry freaking Funk, who was a deb WE Hall of Famer,
- 10:07a wrestling legend, and it was such an honor to speak with him,
- 10:13and I had that honor and I'll remember it forever and I'm looking forward to
- 10:18listening back to that podcast. I immediately went back and I found an article
- 10:22that quoted our show, so that I went back into my old archives,
- 10:26got the podcast center over to Bauer. Bauer put it up on the website
- 10:30and has made it available for download, So it's gonna be a lot of
- 10:33fun to go back and listen to that. And again, I just it
- 10:37was an honor, it was an honored privilege to talk to him and I'm
- 10:39very sad and about the news today. But the career in the life of
- 10:43Terry Funk was was one of a one in a million doctor Trey. He
- 10:46was a one in a million person. Yeah, I mean it's amazing me
- 10:52because you know, we talked about, you know, we spent a lot
- 10:54of time over the past few years talking about the bloodline, the usos,
- 10:58you know, other family or blood you know relations, and a lot of
- 11:03those guys are very very similar in their styles. And then you look at
- 11:07Terry Funk and Dory Funk Junior as professional wrestlers in the early days, they
- 11:13were very similar. But you know, the path that Terry went down was
- 11:18so different from his older brother, I mean just two almost completely polar opposite
- 11:24personalities and everything else. And you know, by all accounts, like I've
- 11:28had an outpouring of people from you know, the independent scene here in Tennessee
- 11:33talking about like appearances Terry made and you know what a great guy was.
- 11:37Actually one of my one of my friends that was in wrestling before I got
- 11:39in in Arkansas was telling the story about how he had worked a show and
- 11:43then had to drive straight from the show to the airport to pick Terry Funk
- 11:48up and he was still basically in his wrestling gear and you know, throwing
- 11:54a pair of shorts and a T shirt over, like one of his own,
- 11:58like you know, T shirts from his merchable. It gets to the
- 12:01airport, he's all stressed out because it's Terry freaking Funk. He gets there
- 12:05for realizes Funk's plane got in five minutes earlier than schedules, so he's stressing
- 12:09that Terry Funk's been waiting on this young independent wrestler. And he walks,
- 12:13you know, he walks in, looks around, he sees Terry Funk,
- 12:18and he goes he didn't have to call out to him, like Terry just
- 12:20looked at him. That's a wrestler. He just walks right up to him,
- 12:24introduced himself. They got in the car, and then a two hour
- 12:26drive from the Little Rock Airport or a Little Rock Airport to Batesville, Arkansas.
- 12:31He's like the highlight was literally him just talking to Terry Funk the entire
- 12:35time. And he was supposed to be in a tag match with him and
- 12:39Terry against Brian Christopher and Rakishi and Rikishi no showed or not no, but
- 12:46just couldn't make it, and they moved Terry Funk to be in the special
- 12:50guest referee. He's like, that's just one of those memories I will never
- 12:54ever forget, just because of how gracious and how willing he was to do
- 12:58whatever the promo her ass And that's one of those little life lessons as a
- 13:03young wrestler. He took away from it was, Hey, you're never too
- 13:05big for this sport. And I think he's always he always retained that it
- 13:11was appreciative to everybody came in contact, whether they were you know, top
- 13:15of the car main event and one of the major promotions, or you know,
- 13:18a green guy in his second year of wrestling. He's just you know,
- 13:22like we've talked about years ago with Tracy's mothers, he's just one of
- 13:24those guys that just seems universally loved and revered across the board about you know,
- 13:30with everybody who came in contact with him. Yeah, that's such a
- 13:31cool story. He was such a nice guy and just my very small interactions
- 13:37with him, and he didn't need to be I mean, he's he's a
- 13:39living legend. And it was like, listened back to the podcast that we
- 13:43made available. It's like talking to an old friend that's talking about his career.
- 13:48Talking to him on the phone when we were setting up the interview was
- 13:52he could not have been more nice, you know, and it was just
- 13:58it was just a really cool experience and it's one that I'll never forget.
- 14:01I mean, it was legit, like the It was the first big name
- 14:05I ever interviewed in my entire broadcasting career. And I'm so happy I found
- 14:09the podcast to make available and pay tribute to Terry Funk, who sadly passed
- 14:16away today. It's a it's a sad day, but we remember an honor
- 14:22the life and career of one Terry Funk, because I mean, things would
- 14:26not be where they were today if it wasn't for Terry Funk, his battles
- 14:30with Rick Flair, the way that he helped carry ec W forward, just
- 14:37being always a wrestler's wrestler. He's one of a kind and we'll be missed
- 14:43and we send our condolences to all the family, friends, and of course
- 14:46fans of Terry Funk and his passing today. Rest in peace, Terry Funk.
- 14:56There's no easy way to transition out of paying tribute to a legend other
- 15:00than talking about a legend whose potential WWW career ended. This past Friday on
- 15:07SmackDown, Edge in a match with Shaymiss to celebrate twenty five years in the
- 15:11WWW in his hometown of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. His contract is expiring
- 15:20soon. We don't know if he's gonna stick with w he says he doesn't
- 15:24know. We don't know if he's going to completely retire, if he's going
- 15:28to go somewhere else, to a or like an AW. Well, we
- 15:31might have gotten some lightshd on the story today as PW Torch is reporting the
- 15:37following and this comes straight from their article stating Edge wrestled his last match on
- 15:43his current w WE contract on Friday. His contract expires, according to Edge
- 15:46on the Fan Morning Show at the end of September. It's not known if
- 15:50he has any non compete period afterward, but there's a lot of buzz that
- 15:54he is a W bound. PW Torch has learned that Adam Copeland aka Edge,
- 15:58presented to w W what would take to retain his services, but WWW
- 16:02declined to meet his requests. This is sparked to believe within WW that he's
- 16:06probably headed at AW and new at the time what AW could offer him,
- 16:10based perhaps on conversations with other wrestlers of a star power about AWPA. Tony
- 16:15Khn is a big fan of Edge, it certainly would value adding him to
- 16:17the roster, either as a wrestler or in some other role. Also,
- 16:19Christian Cage is a longtime friend of Copeland and is prominently featured on AW television,
- 16:23so linking it together in some way on TV would be natural. Edge
- 16:27received the big celebration of his w here on Friday SmackDown because he's well liked
- 16:33within WWE management doesn't resent the possibility to go to a w and that's what
- 16:38PW Torch had reported today Wednesday, August twenty three, as we record on
- 16:47Wednesday night while AW Dynamite is airing. So lots of speculation here Doctor Trey
- 16:52that Adam Copeland Edge could be AW bound prior to him returning in twenty twenty.
- 16:59I believe in late two and nineteen he was approached by Tony conn and
- 17:02AW. He never just come out fully and said that, but he basically
- 17:06alludes to. I believe there was like a W twenty four on Edges return,
- 17:11and that's what led to him going to he was made an offer and
- 17:15he went to w w WE and said, well, you know, I
- 17:17owe it to them. Let me see if if they'll match it and bring
- 17:22me back as a professional wrestler. W WE didn't match it, brought him
- 17:26back, and then obviously the rest is history because he's been with the companies
- 17:29since two thy twenty, returning out to the Royal Rumble in January twenty and
- 17:33twenty, and here he is now potentially on his way out of WWE,
- 17:37possibly had an AW Doctor Trey, how do you how do you take all
- 17:41in all this news here? Do you think we last we watched Edges last
- 17:45match in w WE? Uh, I'm gonna say yes. And that's that's
- 17:52what he cut with the cava that the wrestlers are wrestlers, and and you
- 17:56know, guys like Edge and Christian and you other guys have been rather as
- 18:00a long time ago how to use leverage when an issue. But you know,
- 18:03when you when you look at the AW schedule and you look at basically
- 18:07guaranteed pay and you look at you know, not only is one of his
- 18:12best friends there, but he also has history with Don Callis as well.
- 18:17You know it does make a lot of sense for him to you know,
- 18:21make a move and go over there. And you know, if he presented
- 18:25an offer WB and they declined to meet those demands, I think they kind
- 18:29of know that that, you know, the possibilities there. So uh,
- 18:33right now, I'm gonna say, yeah, that was probably his last match
- 18:36in WWE, because if he does go to a w I just don't think
- 18:41by the time that contract would be up that he would. I just don't
- 18:44see Adam Copeland being that, you know, I don't I don't see him
- 18:47being staying and wrestling at sixty. So you know, for a guy in
- 18:52his early fifties, that this might be a chance for him to go out
- 18:55there help some younger guys and you know, potentially get another edge Christian argue
- 19:00boy matchup, edge Christian young buck matchup, things like that. I that
- 19:03seems like really fun, you know, matches for you know, Adam Coplan
- 19:10to get involved with and really wind his career down doing some fun stuff like
- 19:12that with guys he's probably never wouldn't have the chance to work with. If
- 19:17he stays in WWE. Where would you prefer to see Himenda Square? Would
- 19:21you prefer to see Himenda Square in ww or in AW. I mean I
- 19:25prefer see WWE because I just don't know what the name Adam you know,
- 19:27you know, coming from Toronto, Kata Adam Copeland has the same ring to
- 19:33it as Edge, you know. But I mean obviously most of these guys,
- 19:37like the lifers, like Edge has basically been a lifer, like he
- 19:41really after he first on the senor ww he's never been anywhere else, And
- 19:45so those guys when they go to other promotions, it just feels odd.
- 19:49Like I still can't wrap my head around Bret Hart wc W. Like it
- 19:55doesn't you go back and watch those old videos. It doesn't look right.
- 19:57Can you wrap your head around staying to would be? Wait? No,
- 20:00Like it just doesn't look right, you know, it's weird, like and
- 20:04it may be the way that I'm but use the phrase it's the light I've
- 20:10always seen them in, but it is the production lighting and like how they
- 20:12look like it just looks off, you know. So yeah, I mean
- 20:18I almost forget this thing. I mean we've talked about the show, but
- 20:22I almost forget this thing was in WWB because it was kind of like that
- 20:23year long cup of coffee. So to speak, it's kind of the same
- 20:27thing with you know, like I said Brett Hart WCW, it took me
- 20:30a long time to get you seeing Hulk Hogan in WCW when he jumps over
- 20:34there, or Rick Flair when he first came to w W E. You
- 20:37know, like Macho Man in w W two was weird. It kind of
- 20:41took them to actually change their entire look. Like when Hogan went to Hollywood
- 20:45Macho Man star doing the black and white stuff. I'm like, all right,
- 20:48that seems like a different character. I can kind of see that separately
- 20:52from the red and yellows. But then even when Hogan came to w E
- 20:56as nWo Hollywood, I'm like, that doesn't look right. It's just it
- 21:00always seems kind of living off for a while. So you know, it's
- 21:04like, you know, seeing your favorite baseball player or NFL player. It's
- 21:07like Jet, You're gonna go through this year, Aaron Rodgers as a jet,
- 21:11Yeah, you know, Brett Farve as a jet. You know,
- 21:15me seeing Joe Montana as a chief or Jerry Rice as a raider like it,
- 21:19or Trey Lance is the third string quarterback. No that I'm okay with,
- 21:26But it's just you see these things. You're like that it just doesn't
- 21:29make sense. And it's Smith as a cardinal, Like you're just like,
- 21:33it's almost it's almost don't want to say it's sad, but it is kind
- 21:36of like a little bit of a disappointment at time when you Bronco he got
- 21:41a Super Bowl though, so like he did Tom Brady as a Buck.
- 21:44Yeah, but you know, it's just it's just things you see. You're
- 21:47like, that's odd, especially when you first see now when you got to
- 21:49Brady year three as a Buck, you're like, all right, yeah,
- 21:52I'm kind of used to it now. But wrestling is a different a different
- 21:56animal a lot of ways. Like you see you guys, like I mean,
- 22:00seeing Moxley in AW the first time, you're like, whoa, that's
- 22:03kind of odd. Now that he's been there for three years, say with
- 22:04Chris Jericho, the first time you see, you're like, that's kind of
- 22:07weird looking, and then now you're like, all right, it makes sense.
- 22:10Cody, when he came back to WWE with the AW gimmick, it's
- 22:14like, it's cool, but it takes a little while for your brain to
- 22:17process it and make it normal. I guess yeah. It's it's We're so
- 22:22used to it in wrestling, but I just feel like there are times where,
- 22:26especially towards the later end of the career, it's funny you bring up
- 22:29Jericho, like Jericho in AW it's it's been forty years now and he's a
- 22:34main staying AW a former AW World Champion. But there is a huge part
- 22:38of me, as a Chris Jericho fan that wants to see one last match
- 22:42in WWW, like that's where I believe his career should end. And I
- 22:45don't think that will ever happen now. I don't forever foresee Chris Jericho leaving
- 22:52AW and going to w W because the allure of joining a company that is
- 22:59a little bit more lax than the grind of WWE is what's a very which
- 23:03is very appealing to wrestlers, and that, to me, is is why
- 23:07potentially Edge is making that jump. And I think edgees is making that jump
- 23:11because there's more or potentially making that jump because there's more opportunities for him that
- 23:18he would like to accomplish to close out his career. I mean, you're
- 23:22you're talking about tagging with Christian again. I didn't I don't think Christian is
- 23:26going to come to Towe anytime, seeing the Hardys are both in AW.
- 23:30If they want to have a Edging Christian Hardy's match, that's going to have
- 23:33to happen in AW now, Edging Christian versus FTR, Edging Christian versus the
- 23:37Young Bucks, Edge Wrestling in New Japan, Edge Wrestling, MJF Adam Cole,
- 23:45whoever see him punk again, will Losspray, whoever Kenny Omega like?
- 23:51There just seems to be more opportunities in AW for a professional wrestler than there
- 23:56is in WWE. Like w E is the global corporate conglomerate that it has
- 24:03WrestleMania, SummerSlam, the stadium shows. But if you're a wrestler who's accomplished
- 24:07all that and your itches to wrestle some of your friends and accomplish some dream
- 24:12scenarios like look at the path that Brian Danielson took by leaving WWE, AW
- 24:18is more appealing. So it's a tough pill to swallow because to me,
- 24:22again, Edge should finish his career in w WA. There should not be
- 24:26a period of time where Edge had left w to go wrestle in AW.
- 24:30In my opinion, as a fan, it just seems perfect that he is
- 24:37with the WE family and that's where he finished his career. Some people are
- 24:40w WE guys, some people are AW guys, And I just feel like
- 24:45at this part important his career, I don't I don't want to see him
- 24:48go to a W Obviously we'll get used to it, but it's a it's
- 24:52a tough pill to swallow as an EDGE fan, because, you know,
- 24:53do we want to run where he's recognized as Adam Copeland? Does he work
- 24:59out something with w W where he could use the name Edge? Is he
- 25:03the Edge? Is he like something stupid like Edge Copeland? You know I
- 25:07would what's that? Adah Adam Edge? Like? I don't know. I
- 25:18got the feeling that his career was ending this past Friday on SmackDown, not
- 25:22potentially continuing in AW. But this report is seems pretty like a fore gone
- 25:26conclusion to me that in two three months from now we have Edge in AW.
- 25:32There's a lot of dream match scenarios that we'll see play out. It's
- 25:34just a matter of do we want to see it play out at this point
- 25:37in his career, Like, this is not an Adam Cole jumping from w
- 25:41e too. You know a w this is a guy who only has a
- 25:45couple more years left under his belt. And where do we want to see
- 25:48that final match take place? Is my thing? And I think for a
- 25:51guy like Edge, it should happen in w W. A yeah, I
- 25:56agree with that then, And then I thought as you were talking, I
- 25:59thought about the concept and a couple of things though. One is if if
- 26:03he does go to WWE, does that mean that when Beth's contracts up,
- 26:07she might make appearances in a AW and then we might get Beth and Brett
- 26:11Baker or Beth and Edge against Adam Colin Brett Baker, Like there's there are
- 26:15some dream matches for Beth Phoenix in AW as well if she decided to go
- 26:19that path of good thing. And this is a topic for our show maybe
- 26:22on a on a week or we're a little bit slower. We don't have
- 26:26like a five hour pay per view coming up, but a couple of those
- 26:29coming up. Now. Yeah, when when you talk about guys making that
- 26:32jump, these guys and they're older, stay just making that jump to AW.
- 26:34And we've had this conversation on the show about has AW ever built you
- 26:40know, has a TOW built up. Any homegrown stars outside of baby MJF
- 26:44that are over with the crowd, maybe a yeah, But is it you
- 26:49know, for the law of the I mean, those were guys that were
- 26:52like kind of on that pillar thing when they moved over. But you look
- 26:56at, you know, some of the other guys that are maybe a little
- 26:59bit lower, you know, a private party, are they really over to
- 27:03the other guys that they've brought in. But those guys who are over,
- 27:06they can go anywhere they want to and they're gonna get a crowded reaction.
- 27:07So the allure of AW when you're already over and don't have to work as
- 27:11hard, is really compelling. But if you're a younger guy and you're still
- 27:15trying to establish yourself, maybe going to NXC is the right route because they
- 27:22can kind of teach you how to get over, maybe better than what aw's
- 27:25done. I look at a guy like Brian Pillman Jr. Who's making that
- 27:27jump over to WW here the next month or so, we'll see him in
- 27:32NXC. But some of those guys that are younger and got that contract,
- 27:36having established themselves, and if you're not getting over on AW, are you
- 27:41average you're gonna be able to get over anywhere else. Interesting point. Yeah,
- 27:45so we'll see here Edge possibly wrestling his last WE match in his career
- 27:49and could very well be on his way to All Elite Wrestling. Speaking of
- 27:56AW doctor Trey, we will pre if you predict aw all In here in
- 27:59momententarily, but let's talk about it before we get into the show itself.
- 28:03How important is this AW all In show for the future of the promotion and
- 28:07this Sunday over eighty thousand people Wembley Stadium, London, England, they revived
- 28:14the all In brand for All Elite Wrestling. Will be the first time that
- 28:17AWS ran an all in show and they're doing it. They're promoting it as
- 28:21the biggest wrestling crowd in history. I know they are approaching the WRESTLEMANE thirty
- 28:26two record, which was over I believe eighty two eighty three thousand. So
- 28:30it's very well possible little week from now that this show has surpassed that and
- 28:34will be recognized from an attendance standpoint. Sorry wrestlemany three that it was the
- 28:41biggest wrestling show attended in history, which is kind of a surprise because up
- 28:47until the last couple of months, Aw's creative has not been that great,
- 28:51so it is the allud just to create history and be there for the first
- 28:56debut show over in London, England. They've been good as of late,
- 29:00but sometimes when you look at the card, people are like, I don't
- 29:02know about this doing back to back shows as well. There's been a lot
- 29:06of back and forth about that. But nonetheless, taking a step back from
- 29:08all that again, I asked the question, how important is all in this
- 29:14Sunday for the future of the promotion? By the way, I think it
- 29:18was named another pay per view for them. They could do all in,
- 29:19all out and then all that there you go. Okay, a little nod
- 29:23to the Nickelodeon show, Yes exactly, But I think those shows really really
- 29:29important to them. And I don't want to say it's like a turning point
- 29:32or a fork in the runners like that, But when you're gonna have this
- 29:36many eyes on your product and you're going out there, you're saying, hey,
- 29:41this is gonna be the largest wrestling crowd in the history of wrestling,
- 29:45You're gonna get some mainstream attention from that as well, and so from that
- 29:51alone, you want to make sure you're on point. I mean, if
- 29:52we have you know, production gaps or pyro gaps or things like that,
- 30:00it's going to be even more magnified on this stage where you know, you're
- 30:07casual. Like the one thing we talked about, you have to get the
- 30:11eyes of the casual wrestling fans on your product in order to grow. You
- 30:15can't just stay tied into the diehards. Here's your chance to grab some those
- 30:19casual fans because they're gonna hear about on ESPN, they're gonna hear about on
- 30:23CBS Sports, they're gonna hear about different outlets that about how big this show
- 30:27is and everything else. If you have a pyro incident like you have with
- 30:33you know, the barbed wire match, or you know any of these other
- 30:36like weird things that have happened, and we just go, oh, like
- 30:38we just kind of grow because grown, because it's a growing pain. On
- 30:42this stage, it's gonna get magnified even bigger. So it's an opportunity for
- 30:48them to grab some more casual fans and bring to their product. But at
- 30:52the same time, you just don't want those huge mistakes that make you look
- 30:57like a minor league team playing a major League stadium, so you's got to
- 31:00be mindful of that as well. Looking at the overall card right now,
- 31:04touch train and I know you don't have at top of mind right now.
- 31:08We'll run through it here momentarily. But there is a lot of social media
- 31:14chatter that the build for this show has been lackluster. I mean, AW
- 31:18is right and rightfully so ramping this up in a huge way as a massive
- 31:23turning point for the promotion, And there is a lot writing on this Sunday
- 31:26show, and rightfully so, like I'm very happy for AW to accomplish what
- 31:32they have and all wrestling fans should be voting for rooting for that as well.
- 31:37The tribalism of being like that I hope they fail and all that shit,
- 31:40it's just ridiculous, because this is good for wrestling. That a promotion
- 31:42not named WWE is able to get over eighty thousand people in a stadium in
- 31:48a country that they have never been to before. This is a huge accomplishment
- 31:52and the success of the show is tenfold important for the future of the AW
- 31:57promotion because this could be the end of the first chapter of a w and
- 32:01taking it to the next chapter and helping it get closer and closer to a
- 32:07you know, a one B or one A. However, you want to
- 32:10look at it as an equal to a WE in the eyes of everybody around
- 32:15the world, rather than a quote secondary promotion. Nonetheless, the card has
- 32:21been chastised in a way. What do you think of the build? What
- 32:24did you think of the build? What do you think of the formation of
- 32:28it? Are you getting what you want to see this Sunday during this historic
- 32:32show. I mean I'm getting some of what I want. I mean,
- 32:37MJF Adam Cole on papers a match, I would want to see the build
- 32:42for this match in this setting I think is different. I mean, usually,
- 32:49if I'm heading into a show where I know we're going to put sixty
- 32:53seventy thousand people in the stadium, whether it's a Wrestlingmania, Summer Slam,
- 32:58something like that, you know something this magnitude, I want that main event
- 33:01to feel like it's going to be a fight. I want that. I
- 33:06want those casual fans. I want those people that, for lack of a
- 33:09better term, think it's still real to them. I want them to buy
- 33:15into the animosity and this is kind of like that they've done the whole friendship
- 33:20angle leading into this match, and I'm like, okay, so we're playing
- 33:22the competitive friend angle instead of the animals angle. So that makes me a
- 33:28look at Leary, you look at the Stadium Stampede match, like those are
- 33:32fun matches and enjoyable, but you know, would I rather see you know,
- 33:38Omega and Orho. I rather see you know, a singles match or
- 33:43a tag match with animosity and anger and victual build to it. So to
- 33:49me, something like this, some of these matches had a one week build
- 33:52or a two week build, and they've never really gone face to face with
- 33:55stuff like it's not it feels like, for lack of a better term,
- 34:02like when a kid tries on his daddy's shoes. It's huge and it's fun,
- 34:08but it's not the same as when dad puts his shoes on and goes
- 34:13to work, and it almost feels like it's the indie show trying to be
- 34:17WWE in the presentation, but the build is not on the level of what
- 34:22we get to for a SummerSlam or Amania or a Rumble for that matter.
- 34:27So that's where I think the difference is. I think that's where the backlash
- 34:31has come from. Folks on the build up to this, to this show.
- 34:36Yeah, and I think maybe this is a reflection of a promotion that
- 34:38is not used to this opportunity, doctor Try. I mean, it's that
- 34:40fair to say that, Like they're there. They don't have the record of
- 34:46being able to build towards massive stadium shows like this like WWE has with Wrestlemanian
- 34:52SummerSlam, and you're kind of seeing that newer promotion, you know, less
- 34:59than five years. I think that's a fantastic points something I have not thought
- 35:01about until you said it as the reason why the build for a show like
- 35:06this has not been up to snub to the level of promotion that AW is
- 35:09giving it. Yeah. I mean and once again, like you and I
- 35:15after this show, like when you look at the AW calendar, what is
- 35:19their big build to show every year? Yeah? Is it all out?
- 35:23Is it's you know, one of the other one, Like is it?
- 35:27What's what are you building towards? I mean you look at WWB, they
- 35:30were always building towards SummerSlam. Stark I mean w W E or WCW NWA
- 35:36for years. There's always buildings. A stark impact is bound for Glory Ring
- 35:39of honor final Battle, you know, or you know, like we always
- 35:45had penultimate shows that you were building towards. I don't think AW does that,
- 35:47and I'll one hand it is I don't want to say lack of experience,
- 35:52but it is almost like a cocky attitude, like, Hey, we're
- 35:57gonna keep doing what we're always doing because it's been working for us. But
- 36:00this is a different setting than what you're typically in and you've had I mean,
- 36:06how long ago was the Women we same show now? It's like four
- 36:07months ago? Five months? Yeah, April? Yeah, So why have
- 36:12you not been building now since April to get to this? Like all storylines
- 36:16lead to this show knowing you're gonna have more eyes on the product than you
- 36:20typically do. So it's almost either inexperience or bravado that they really haven't changed
- 36:29their modus operati leading into it. And dear God, I just used a
- 36:31lot of big words that so I used ten ultimate most operatic, Jesus Christ,
- 36:36what the hell's wrong with me today? And Doctor Trey's doing Mortal.
- 36:40I feel like they went into this show building didn't like they do any other
- 36:45normal pay per view, and I think that is where they were wrong.
- 36:51In that sense. I have loved the MJF Adam Cold storyline, Like I
- 36:57think it has been a lot of fun and enjoy to watch, and it's
- 37:01gone in a direction I did not think it was going to go and making
- 37:05MJF a baby face, and I think to this point that he is barring
- 37:08a turn going to be a baby face moving forward. So that was really
- 37:14cool. But you think about that, I mean, that's the main event
- 37:15match, and I'm very happy and proud for those two guys, But you
- 37:19asked yourself, It's like, was that build and this match the one that
- 37:23should be headlining all In? And I don't know the direction of this build
- 37:30for all In. Maybe this shouldn't have been used for this type of show,
- 37:35Maybe it should have been something bigger. I still say, and maybe
- 37:38this is what's the hang up for me, the fact that we're not getting
- 37:42CM Punk and FTR versus Kenny Omegan the Young Bucks in a main event at
- 37:45all In. It's just very telling about how bad the backstage Jerry is in
- 37:50aw right now. Like the fact that's not happening is like atrocious. I
- 37:57mean that was the moneymaker. You guys could not put your your differences are
- 38:00that bad that you could not headline this show, of all shows where people
- 38:08want to see those two groups feud because of the real life beef between them,
- 38:15especially see them Punk in the elite. They couldn't come to do it
- 38:19is like mind boggling to me. Maybe that's where it's a personal hang up
- 38:22for me. But I mean, as I look at this card and we'll
- 38:24preven predict it here, it just doesn't I don't think it does it for
- 38:30me? Doctor Try. I gotta be honest. I wish there was some
- 38:34better build for a lot of these matches. Yeah, not to mention,
- 38:37you could have done a WrestleMania rematch on this show that actually had a little
- 38:46bit of backstage anamossa. You could have done Jericho and Punk yep. I
- 38:51was just thinking that. And we know after brawl Out that there was some
- 38:57contention between Jericho and Punk and they've said that they've kind of hashed that out.
- 39:02But you could have done that. You know, you look at the
- 39:05stuff with what's his name talk, I can't pronounce his name, Takashita,
- 39:10Canosia, Takeshka, t Keshka, are we doing it? Takeshka and Omega
- 39:16at all at the show we are where they're doing this sex man tag team
- 39:21match, but once again, it's not a singles match, and that was
- 39:25one of the most brutal beat downs we saw a few months back, and
- 39:29they still haven't done a singles one on one match to play off that.
- 39:32But we're getting in this six man It's like, guys, some of this
- 39:36stuff is basic wrestling, Like like you said, I love the MJF Adam
- 39:40Cole storyline, I really do, but this build up feels like you're building
- 39:45to a secondary pay per view to get the turn of one of these guys
- 39:52on the other to then lead to the bigger show. And that's one of
- 39:55the things that means always done really well is like, hey, if it's
- 39:58a B show, hey we made do a turn post match to then lead
- 40:04to we just thought a Summer Slam for crying out loud. We saw,
- 40:07you know, Jay Usso turn on Roman. They beat up as brother to
- 40:12build a Summer Slam, and that's how it's done. I mean, you
- 40:16look at Russellmania like outside, I mean, Roman Cody was not in that
- 40:21same area of says, but look you look at Sammy and Kevin against the
- 40:23USO's like, you're building that contention to pay off at your bigger events,
- 40:30And I think that's one thing they haven't done very well is lay out to
- 40:35the fans, Hey, this is our A show. These are our A
- 40:37shows, these are our B shows on pay per views, So that way,
- 40:43you know what you're kind of getting into. Like, I love that
- 40:46their storytelling for the most part on a lot of this stuff, it's been
- 40:50great. But even FTR and the Bucks, you and I talked about a
- 40:53couple of weeks ago, like it's a great matchup, this is the what
- 40:58the rubber match or the second match, third match rubber matchup, But once
- 41:01again, play back into this, like, have some actual interactions between these
- 41:06guys, have some back and forth, even if it is friendly competitive battle
- 41:12between two the top tag teams in the world, you know, have something
- 41:15go back and forth other than just like you know, a little bit of
- 41:19appointing, a little bit of a slight no like build up a little bit
- 41:22of stuff in there to make me feel like, hey, these guys have
- 41:25a personal issue, not just a competitive issue on who's the best tag team
- 41:30in the world. Like just those little subtle tweaks would be fine, but
- 41:35we get a lot of like last second booking for this show and some storylines
- 41:39that are great, but maybe for you know, a Fighter Fast or you
- 41:45know one of the other pay per views that you know are kind of down
- 41:47down the pipe a little bit to get to this. I mean, it's
- 41:51just they have so many things they could have done that would make sense.
- 41:53I mean, you put Jericho and Punk in Wembley Stadium. Hey, there's
- 41:59your headliner. Well, so like the diehard fans, yeah, Adam Cole,
- 42:01MJF We're buying into. But those casual fans, if they're like,
- 42:06hey, we got Jericho and Punk, which is a WrestleMania rematch in Wembley
- 42:09Stadium in front of ninety thousand people, and that was one of my favorite
- 42:14WrestleMania matches because it's underrated because it was so stiff and hard hitting with some
- 42:17real life trauma behind it exactly, you know, like pay that off,
- 42:22bring that back up, and that way you're still not that way, you
- 42:24can still save Punk and Kenny Omega for another show, and you and I
- 42:30aren't complaining about it, because hey, we can look at that real life
- 42:32drama they had, plus their history, and I'm on board with that match,
- 42:37and that's just to me, match making, simple building one on one,
- 42:42and it just kind of frustrates me when I look at it, like
- 42:45they're still booking super indie shows on a setting that is a WrestleMania type setting
- 42:52for a potentially turning point show in their company history. Last question I want
- 42:58to ask you before we preven predict how much is the All Out Show a
- 43:01week later taken away from this card in your mind? If anything, I
- 43:06didn't even know there was one, Like I think y'all out show? I
- 43:09mean, if I'm putting a show on it for a ninety thousand people and
- 43:14I might have a show right after it, Like, how can I possibly
- 43:16make that an event worth watching? Like unless you do something crazy, unless
- 43:24you have a Bash at the Beach moment or something of that ilk where we're
- 43:29like, holy cow, I can't believe that happened. Now I have to
- 43:31watch All Out? But what are you gonna build? What are you gonna
- 43:36what storylines are you building for All Out? This short returnaround time. It's
- 43:40just it's completely baffling to me the way they're setting this up. And it's
- 43:45like, now, next year when you don't have all in and you're doing
- 43:49it all out? Are you also damaging the brand name of all out by
- 43:53putting it so close to all in? It's it's a it's a weird dichotomy.
- 43:58I would have never done it. Well, see how it plays out.
- 44:00You know, two weeks from now we'll be talking about the all out
- 44:04All in aspect to this entire thing and how it plays towards the future of
- 44:08AW I wouldn't have played it this way, but it's very well possible.
- 44:12Even with the way that the card is looking. Then a week from now,
- 44:15Doctor Trey and I sit here and go, this is a fantastic show,
- 44:16one of the best the year, such a great atmosphere, a lot
- 44:19of fun to watch, and we forget about the build. But heading into
- 44:23it, it's like, man, you have this amazing opportunity in the build
- 44:28has been lackluster and last minute, and that's what's disappointed. As a wrestling
- 44:32family, wants to see some good long term storylines that bringing all together,
- 44:37So we'll see where it goes. This Sunday All in London, England,
- 44:42Wembley Stadium, expecting over eighty two thousand people to be in attendance. It's
- 44:45being build as the biggest event in wrestling history, Doctor, and might I
- 44:52add Doctor Trey and I are recording this during Dynamite, so it's very well
- 44:55possible that matches on this card could be changed. Let's start with one that
- 45:00could be changed. It's the pre show match as Aussie Opened defend the ROH
- 45:05World Tag Team Championship against MJF and Adam Cole. Aussie opened his due to
- 45:08be taken on the Hardy Boys. As Doctor trying to record this, we
- 45:12have no idea who's won that match, so as possible, could be the
- 45:14Hardy Boys versus m Jeff and Adam Cole. Wish to me would be more
- 45:16of a all in match than the one with Assie Open, and I'm a
- 45:21big fan of Aussie Open. With that said, I really like this idea
- 45:24of the main event battling for the tag team Championship and the pre show.
- 45:29This is also a way to get fans in their seats. You could tell
- 45:32great business by aw here that there is concerned that fans will not be in
- 45:36their seats for the start of this show. That's why they're putting MJF and
- 45:39Adam Cole on the pre show because they want fans to check it out.
- 45:42With that said, I'm gonna take m jeff and Adam Cole to become the
- 45:44new ROH World Tae Team Champions. Doctor Try. By the way, it
- 45:47also gives Adam Cole at MJF five hours to recover. He gives them time
- 45:52to recover for the main match matches. I am going this is where I
- 45:55think we're going to differ a little bit. I am going to take Aussie
- 46:02Open to retain their tag teams holes by disqualifications. I think MJF and MCLE
- 46:07get the win by DQ, but I can't see them putting the Ring of
- 46:12Honor Tag Teams titles on those two guys when they're fighting for the world title
- 46:15and then you have nothing on that Ring of Honor brand for tag teams.
- 46:19So I just can't seem MJF and MCLE being on a Ring of Honor YouTube
- 46:23show. So I will take Assie Open to retain their tag titles by disqualification.
- 46:29Next match here is for the AW World Tag Team Championship is FTR Defense
- 46:31against the Young Bucks. I'm going to take the Young Bucks in this one,
- 46:36Doctor Trey. I think with Cash Wheeler's recent arrests, and potential legal
- 46:39troubles. They may look to get the titles off of FTR rather than keep
- 46:44them on them when this is going on. So I'm gonna take the Bucks.
- 46:46I'm taking the Bucks for the cash wheeler thing. And then also,
- 46:50like, if you're going to get to a point where we do the elite
- 46:53versus c mftrs, that what you called them left, that's right, that's
- 46:58where they go by c MFTR, CMFDR. Somebody's gotta played the bad guy.
- 47:02So if the Bucks win, FDR gets mad. Now you can have
- 47:07FDR, the FDR and CM punk to play the heels against the elite.
- 47:12Get more buy in for that, and it makes it more compelling. So
- 47:15I will take the Bucks to win the World Tag Team title as well.
- 47:19Next match, here's a car Sheeta versus Tony Storm versus Sorea versus Doctor Burt
- 47:22Baker dm D in a four way match for the aw Women's World Championship across
- 47:25sheet of defending Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one? I
- 47:30am taking Sirea to win because I think if she has the belt, then
- 47:34she can have the outcast kind of play buffers. That way, she doesn't
- 47:37have to work as much. I think this was their idea to transition the
- 47:40belt off Tony Storm and put it on Sorea to get more eyes on the
- 47:44product. Plus, then you can build to Britt Baker and Sorea again.
- 47:47So I will take Sirea winning the world title. Women have women's title in
- 47:52her homeland of England as well. I love that call, Doctor Trey.
- 47:55I would love to go with Sorea, but I'm gonna go with doctor Burt
- 47:59Baker. Dm D. I think they gotta put the championship back on her,
- 48:01But I love your pick for Surrey. You almost convinced me to make
- 48:04a switch, but I'm gonna stick with my pick here with Doctor Burt Baker.
- 48:07Next match is Darby Allen and Staying taking on Swerve Strickland and R Fox
- 48:12of the Mobile Embassy and a tag team coffin match. I'm so happy for
- 48:15swarving r Fox getting this opportunity. Dat straight, Who do you like in
- 48:17this one? By the way, why do the baby Faces go attack somebody
- 48:22in their building because they were they attacked Nick Wayne? Yeah, but you
- 48:27that's basically got home invasion and baby Faces don't do well other than Steve Austin.
- 48:31I thought it was eye for an Eye. I liked it. To
- 48:35me, it's was it's one of It's just old school me. I'm taking
- 48:37Stinging Darby Allen because Sting doesn't lose in AW so I take Stinging Darby Allen.
- 48:43There are rumors that this could potentially be his last match, staying Darby
- 48:45Allen or with Sting. Excuse me, I'm gonna take Singing Darby Allen and
- 48:50get the victory as well. By the way, is that all letdown for
- 48:53you? If this is Sting's last match, that it's And notice I think
- 48:57the survn aar fox. But if this is things less match, would you
- 49:01want to go out and kind a bigger, bigger match. Yeah, But
- 49:07I guess maybe the stage is what they're thinking that this could be his last
- 49:10match on I mean, this is just pure speculation, but I agree the
- 49:13match. No, I think Darby Allen versus Sting would be a great way
- 49:17for him to go out. But I think they're just thinking at the stage
- 49:20of Wembley Stadium, eighty thousand is a potential here. Okay, it's Corbyn,
- 49:24It's Barren Corbyn. Kurt angle to me what it is? Yeah,
- 49:28No, I hear you. Next match is the Golden Elite Coda Boushi,
- 49:30Kenny, Omegan, Hangman and and Paige checking on Cano Skate Takeshka, j
- 49:35White and Juce Robinson, all those two of Bullet Club Gold and a six
- 49:37man tag team match. I'm going to take the Golden Elite Coda, Kenny
- 49:42and Hangman. Yeah, I'm taking the Golden lead as well. You don't
- 49:45have Cod to come in and with d have Cod to lose, even though
- 49:47I do like Bullet Club Gold, but just on this stage, and plus
- 49:52it can always build up to Omega and to Keshka as well, So I'll
- 49:54take the Golden and Elite getting the win. Next match here is the Stadium
- 49:59Stampede match. Just Eddie Kinkson Orange, Cassie, Chuck Taylor, Trent Breta,
- 50:01Penta El, Sarah Mieto, and to be announced because Ray Phoenix is
- 50:06reportedly injured. They'll be taking on John Moxley, Caudiocass and Only Wheeler.
- 50:09You to the Blackpool Combat Club and three mystery partners. Again. They may
- 50:14have announced the rest of this match while we're recording this, so we don't
- 50:19know. But Doctor Trey, who do you like in this one? Somebody's
- 50:22getting Mirro in this match. That's all I can think of right now.
- 50:24Mirro's on one side again or the other, because he doesn't really have anything
- 50:29on this on the show today. So I'm taking Blackpool Combat Club because I
- 50:34just don't think you can have them lose two best friends, and as much
- 50:37as I love Chuck and Trent, they're just not on the level of the
- 50:40rest of Blackpool Combat Club. I like him taking Blackpool Combat Club and the
- 50:45three Mystery Partners to get the victory in Stadium Sampane. This is gonna be
- 50:49a lot of fun. I love that they're doing this match at Wembley.
- 50:52Next match is a dream match of sorts, depending on if you think it's
- 50:55a dream match. I think it is. I don't know if Doctor Trey
- 50:58feels the same way, but we'll lost taken on Chris Jericho. I'm gonna
- 51:01take will Osprey getting the victory. Yeah, I mean it's a dress.
- 51:07Sorry, I was thinking about who I picking this match, but yeah,
- 51:09on paper, it's a dream matches is like generational type stuff and two guys
- 51:15that have kind of came up very similar the business being high flyers then putting
- 51:19on some size and getting a little bit more brutes. Yeah, I really
- 51:23want to pick Jericho's I think he needs a win, not that for legacy,
- 51:27is just for his standing in AW. But once again, it's will
- 51:30Osprey in the United Kingdom that crowds would go nuts for him. So I'll
- 51:32take will Osprey as well. Next match, here's for the real World Championships.
- 51:37See him Punk defends against Samoa Joe. I'm gonna take see him Punk
- 51:40in this one, Doctor Trey, because I feel like he challenges for the
- 51:44AW Championship a week later at All Out in Chicago. Yeah, I'm same
- 51:50thing for me as much as I love. By the way, have you
- 51:52watched sust the medal yet he take? No, I've heard it's very good.
- 51:55It's very good, even though Joe doesn't talk, which is disappointed because
- 51:59his voice would be great in the role. But it's it's it's really entertaining.
- 52:01I'm taking Cmpunk as well because I don't know the last time Joe beat
- 52:06CM Punk was it was probably a ring of honor then, right yep?
- 52:08Yeah yeah, Sampunk did not ever defeat Samoa Joe until recently the Ownhart Tournament
- 52:14in a w sows. I think it was Owen three in his career.
- 52:17Okay, so I'll take Sampunk as a guy to get back to even so
- 52:21to massages ego a little bit, and then finally the main event for the
- 52:24AW World Champion, Doctor Trey MJF defends against Adam Cole. Uh. This
- 52:30one, This one, I don't know about you. This one's a little
- 52:31bit hard for me because I've kind of been going back and forth on it
- 52:35because I could see it going both ways. I could see either one of
- 52:37the guys turning on the other guy. I'm gonna take MJF to retain because
- 52:44I don't want to say it's a been a lackluster title run, but I
- 52:49think he needs some signature title wins to really establish his legacy as champion,
- 52:54So I'll take MJF getting the win at all Out. I don't think there's
- 52:59any wrong with you saying that it's been a lackluster run, because I would
- 53:01agree with you. It's not where I thought it would be so far,
- 53:06it's been below my expectations, slightly below my expectations. With that said,
- 53:12I'm going to take MJF to retain and take on CM Punk a week later
- 53:16at All Out so both of us taking MJF dot I'm kind of surprising that
- 53:22not to mention, and once again, this is that near sightedness of AW,
- 53:25like, we're going to get if that, if that comes through first,
- 53:28we're getting in JF and Punk within a week. It's the World World
- 53:32Championship stuff. That's the It's like it's predictable in that sense, which which
- 53:37one makes it, which match gets lessened by the other one. That's the
- 53:42like, are we so like after the show? Are we like, oh
- 53:45my god, MJFLE is great, Oh yeah, we got to see him
- 53:47Punk match coming up? Or are we like I can't believe they're doing this
- 53:52because that CM Punk MJF match based on their history would be amazing. But
- 53:55we've had less than a less than a week build up to it, so
- 54:00it's gonna be like they're kind of shooting themselves in the foot for all out
- 54:02based on having all in so soon. Yeah, I would love to know
- 54:06behind the scenes, like how did this? Why is all in and all
- 54:08out around the same time. I don't know if there's a story out there
- 54:12right now. I felt like I had read at some point that this was
- 54:15one of the only weekends that AW could have Wembley Stadium, and I may
- 54:19be incorrect in that, but I would have never done the biggest show in
- 54:23the history of your promotion then a week later doing another show that you know.
- 54:30Doctor Trey and I debate all the time, like is this the Kuda
- 54:32grah for aw or is it double or nothing? I don't believe it's revolution.
- 54:37I don't believe it's full gear. I feel like it's either all out
- 54:39or double or nothing. Which one is their WrestleMania. I don't know,
- 54:44it's it's a it's a scenario we never have seen really play out all that
- 54:49much. Ww we did it once in recent memory that I could think of.
- 54:51I think they did Summer Slam one week and then a week later.
- 54:53They did Payback in twenty twenty, but twenty twenty was really weird and fucked
- 54:58up, so maybe that's why they I did it. Here we are three
- 55:00years later, and they did not have eighty thousand people in attendance for summers
- 55:04them. They had like ten, and those were production workers and then people
- 55:07on a screen in Devinwi. So I don't know. I'm Nonetheless, I'm
- 55:13excited, Dr Trey. I'm excited to see this crowd. I'm excited to
- 55:15see the energy. I'm excited to see the audience. I expect it to
- 55:19be a very fun and entertaining show. I hope a week later we're sitting
- 55:22here going man, all in exceeded expectations and then some. Despite the poor
- 55:29built it's weird. I have to kind of preference myself when I watched the
- 55:32show and knowing that, look, if this crowd is anything like Cardiff,
- 55:38it like you and I are. Theorisaid it was a fantastic show because the
- 55:42crowd energy will pump it up, just like the show in Puerto Rico.
- 55:46Like on paper as solid show, but then the crowd energy just brings it
- 55:52up even more. So I kind of like, I always want to watch
- 55:55the show with no crowd volume, Joe, so I can see all right
- 55:59on my or not, because I know the crowd's gonna hype me up even
- 56:01more. So I'm really really looking forward to that as well, Like it's
- 56:06gonna be a great environment. The UK deserves this so much and I really
- 56:12just hope that it hits all of their expectations because this is you know,
- 56:19all hands on deck, all eyes on the product, and you're gonna have
- 56:22more fans checking this out for AW than they've had on any other show,
- 56:25So you got to bring your A game and then follow up with another A
- 56:30game because you have All Out a week later. Yeah, and we will
- 56:32recap and review All In on next week's edition in the podcast on August thirty,
- 56:37first episode seven h seven will recap interview all In, and then we
- 56:40will also preview predicted WWE Payback and AW all Out. So there's a lot
- 56:45going on heading into this Labor Day holiday here in the United States. I
- 56:51expected to be a very fun and historic weekend for all the wrestling. I'm
- 56:54excited for them. They deserve this. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 56:57I'm excited for the UK fans and recap and review at All for you
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- 59:05we pay tribute to Terry Funk on his passing today, So again, rest
- 59:08in peace to Terry Funk. Enjoy aw all in this Sunday. It's during
- 59:15the day here in the United States, which is gonna be great, so
- 59:16that you could actually sleep normal during AW pay per view, unless because from
- 59:21noontime till nine pm East, which is possible. I want to put it
- 59:24past Tony con sometimes. Nonetheless, a historic weekend is upon us, a
- 59:29historic couple of weeks here, a lot of pay per views taking place,
- 59:32all in, payback, all out, and we will cover it here each
- 59:36and every week on SRTU. So until next week, enjoy the weekend,
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