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Ep. 10 New Country, Who Dis?? · The Group Chat

• Brandon: What's good, what's good. Carson: What is up, y'all? How's it going? Paulina: Hey. Carson: Hey hey. So everybody, we are the group chat. And I'm Carson. Paulina: Huh. Brandon: I was waiting for you. I was waiting for you. I was waiting for you, Paulina. And that's Paulina. Carson: Thanks y'all. Way to leave me hangin'. I thought we were gonna do it. Paulina: I was I was ready for Brandon. Well that's Brandon? Not mine. Carson: Well. Well we we we do practice, we do research, we promise, but it may not look like it. Anyways, here we are and ⁓ we're here to talk shit and mess with your program. ⁓ I'm just kidding. but not really. So y'all, ⁓ so raise your hand if you got the huntavirus. Psych, just a regular virus. Nobody's talking about it where I am. I don't I don't know about y'all. Brandon: Yeah. A little bit. Paulina: Or not. Brandon: Just the usual Paulina: No. Now another thing is popping off. Brandon: I think they said Carson: Well what else is popping off? Paulina: Eat bull eye virus. Carson: That like comes around every how many years? I every five years I swear there's some kind of Ebola outbreak. Brandon: I it's less than that's like every every year, every two years. There's always Paulina: Yeah. Always something. Carson: I mean but is it always it's always Africa, no? mean is it enough that's what it seems like. Brandon: Yeah. It doesn't seem to spread out further. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. For a time being. Yeah, for a time being. Yeah, exactly. Brandon: So it's not really news. Yeah. Carson: And so And there's no cure because I guess Africa's like, you're not gonna help us and we don't have the resources, so I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. But anyways, but anyways Brandon: Who knows? Paulina: Yeah. What else is good with you guys? How was your May? Carson: May went by fast. Paulina: Yeah. Really? Brandon: Yes, Carson: With life. For you slow. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: It it was fast. Paulina: Everybody says that for me. Carson: To say. Brandon: Intense and intense. I think because of that more than anything. Paulina: Alright. For me it was the opposite. Carson: Yeah. Yeah, it was quite busy for me. Really? Brandon: Slow slow ma. Paulina: Very slow. And I have no idea why. Carson: Well you started off when did you Yeah. Brandon: But you were in New York. Paulina: Yeah, I know. But that that I think for that reason it just fell so slow that like my life was like split. It was like New York, you know, then and then Spain and I was like, it's still happening, like but like why am I not on vacation again? Like so yeah, it just fell really slow. Brandon: New York and then normal life. Carson: Mm. What a t what a tease. Brandon: The the Knicks are in the NBA finals. So it so it would have been nice if you were there now celebrating. Paulina: Yeah, your next. Carson: ⁓ yes, social media is blowing up. Paulina: Yeah. been like what, like twenty years or so or more. Brandon: Yeah, I think n I think it was ninety nine the last time. So yeah, twenty was that twenty seven years. Paulina: Almost twenty years. Yeah. Twenty seven years? What you what do mean? Ninety nine? ⁓ yeah, yeah, okay. I I I I can't math, so like wait what do you mean? Twenty seven years. It's like I'm twenty seven. I wasn't born in ninety nine. Carson: Almost almost as old as you? Brandon: ninety nine? What do you mean twenty seven? Well No no no Carson: Can't Hmm. But but I see I I don't I don't follow the NBA, so do they have a chance or is this just good enough making it to the to the finals? Brandon: No, it's them and the Spurs. The Spurs la won last night, so it should be a good a good series. But I think the Knicks I think on paper the Knicks should win. From what I've seen. They have a seem that a better complete squad than the Spurs. Carson: Nice. ⁓ Paulina: Right. Carson: Let's let's go New York. Paulina: We start betting right now. We're gonna bet. I put one dollar Carson: Wanna throw down? Alright, I'll throw down. Let me get back to you on that. I put one euro. Brandon: Okay. Mm. Paulina: ⁓ fancy. Carson: Euro stronger, so anti up, monofocal That's like one twenty to your dollar. Brandon: Interesting. Yeah. What is it now? About one about one fifteen, I think. About one fifteen, I think. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: So now it's not that high. Brandon knows. Brandon. Don't act yeah, don't act like you don't know, Mr. Economics. He gets a he gets an alert every morning. Holy shit, are you kidding me? One cent difference. No. Yeah. ⁓ Brandon: No. I'll check it tomorrow. Paulina: I don't know. Brandon: Bye, bye, bye. Paulina: I think that's Yeah. Brandon: Definitely not. Paulina: It's like my boomer parents, you know. When they check in they're like, ⁓ my god, I should have bought a dollar the other day And it's like, Mom Brandon: Mm. No cool. Carson: Yeah. So speaking of currency and all the different places and all that jazz, we have been out of our home countries for some time. I've been in Spain for how long now? It's been seven years. Yo, hold up. Seven years? Almost seven. Almost seven for me, Brandon. You've been here longer. Paulina a little bit less than me. So Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. One year less. Carson: So how is that sitting with us? 'Cause I know for me in the beginning it was kinda rough. ⁓ but now I love it. I love being here. There's there's so much to to rant and rave about. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: think now we've adjusted. In the beginning, like everything is always gonna be very difficult, but now that you adjust it, you're into the rhythm of everything, that changes it. That changes everything. Carson: For sure. Paulina: For sure. I I moved around quite a lot in my in my life. I mean we have a whole different episode about that. If you guys wanna hear about it, go check that out. But yeah, I moved around quite a lot. But right now I can't really see myself living once again in the States, for example. Maybe for a short period of time. I don't know, like a year or two. But Carson: Never. Mm. Paulina: not like, you know, for the rest of my life, retirement type of thing. Carson: under what circumstances would you would you live there again for a year or two? Brandon: Good. Paulina: If if Tony got a good job, if he got a well paying job in the States, ⁓ if he got a good like offer and we could both move and, you know, take our cats with us, then yes. Then for that like one year or two years, why not? but that's about it. I don't think Carson: Would that would that be New York or you don't really care, you're open, you're flexible or what? Paulina: I would love it if it were if it were in New York. ⁓ but the chances for that were probably very low. we have a friend that went out went out to to Cali, I think close to Fresno. and he really loves it. He he's there I think this is his second year. So Cali maybe, but at the same time Brandon: Quite so. Paulina: As a New York girly, you know, like I like Cali, but no, like you can't go from the east to the west, you know. I'm not trying to pull a Tupac over here, you know, saying that I was brought up in New York, but then moving to to the West Coast. Nah. all the up to Tupac, but we're we're not doing that. ⁓ so no, I don't I don't know. I would think just anywhere in the States. I mean, New York would be Brandon: You can't switch up the coast. Carson: They say the west coast is the best coast. I mean I I don't I don't I don't Paulina: the best for me, but if they said, I don't know, go to Colorado, go to Denver, I'd be like p screw it, yeah, fuck it, let's go. But for a short period of time. Carson: Okay. Brandon, what would it take? Brandon: Yeah, I don't see myself going back. Carson: Ha ha ha. Brandon: Obviously if there was opportunity, like a a well paying job, pfft, of course you have to think about it, but I don't know. I think it's a little too difficult. Carson: Well what's what's in what's a lot of money? Well ⁓ like we're s we're talking about a well paying job, but what what is enough? 'Cause I mean I mean that's a different conversation. Brandon: 'Cause that's the thing. I think a well paying job would have to be a well paying job in the United States, like a salary wise, 'cause once again here in the Spain, like any any salary, any US salary is well paying compared to what we make, especially in southern Spain. And so for that reason it had to be something so that if you were to go back to the US, you could have a decent life there and also save enough money so that when you come back here can tell you, yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. You can live comfortably. Carson: True. True. Brandon: But I don't know. I that's it's something I'm not looking for I'm not looking for that option, so it would have to be just something out of the blue, something come up, but I think now I just should go back as a visitor. And that's about it. Carson: Right, right, right. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Mm. Yeah. That's cool. That's cool. Paulina: Yeah. And what about you, Carson? Brandon: What about you, CJ? Carson: No, no, no. I I I asked the questions around here. I'm not answering. No. I don't play that I don't play that shoot. No. you know, it would be a combination of a salary being Paulina: Yeah. Carson: I wanna say s a hundred, but depending on which city, that may not be enough. Depending on the job, it may not be enough. I think that's where this conversation's going next. in terms of benefits outside of the Moolah. But I would have to be a place I'd like to live. So Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Carson: I I can't just sit here and think of cities specifically or regions or whatever. But definitely not in the middle of the country. I'd want to be probably on the on either coast or at least in the mountains. ⁓ I could see possibly Denver. Salt Lake, I already have people there, so I can move back there for sure. but it would be tough because I'm not alone in this. Of course my wife is very con very much connected to her country, Spain, and I and we both love it here. I love it here too, so Paulina: Yeah. Carson: You know, but the biggest thing really I think is is not so much the salary because that goes with the cost of living. I mean, okay, you earn more money in the US, but then things cost more. So it's and yes, you can if you're smart save if you are if you have a great salary, you can save you can you can make it work, but it seems to just offset I mean, the quality of life here in Spain seems to offset the need for a higher salary. Paulina: Please. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. I guess. Brandon: W without a doubt. Carson: So what are some things about No, tell me, tell me, tell me. Brandon: And it's something it's something that I don't know, we've seen it and we we realize it now, but I think it's something that most of our family and friends it's something that they don't know. Cause there's no way unless 'cause they haven't been in the experience to realize, ⁓ yeah, the quality of life is actually is better than having that salary and all the things that well we take for granted now that we're here and we have this life. Paulina: What's your Carson: Mm. Yeah, they For sure. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: For sure. No, that's the thing, when I when I buy just anything there, whether I'm out at a restaurant or I go to store and I'm just buying something, that product, whatever it may be, that food, that I don't know. deodorant, take it for example, something just so basic that here would cost next to nothing in Spain. And there they're just asking a ridiculous amount. You can't justify it. Even if even if you get a higher salary, you just can't justify paying how much is of an avoc avocado there. I don't know. You're paying for each avocado almost two euros two dollars. Sorry, dollars. but here you can get four avocados for probably no more than four or four fifty. So like you're not really paying much more than Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: And that's just one example. But there I mean everything's way too expensive and it's hard to justify. Especially when the the food quality is lower. Brandon: Everything. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. And that's something that I actually realized when I went to on my trip recently, like I I lost my chapstick somewhere. Like, you know, long flight, whatever, you lose things. And I was like, fuck, I don't have chapstick, you know, and my lips felt so freaking chopped and I'm like, I'm not gonna be walking around looking like that. And I went to What was it? I don't know if it was a Target. I think it was Target. It's like okay, I'm like, Target is known for like decent prices, you know, generally. I walk in there and I'm like, What the hell? I'm like, who it who pays eight dollars for a chapstick? One, not even in bulk. I'm like, are you shitting me? So I got some some chapstick that I found that was like three forty or something like that. I was like, okay, I can pay that, but still a lot. Brandon: Mm-hmm. That's that's still a lot. Carson: Maka roots, fucking Jojo Jobo, whatever seed fancy straight from El Dorado. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. ⁓ Yeah, exactly. I'm like it's a stupid example, but as you said, cars and like deodorant or whatever, like body wash, you're like, who pays that much? I go to frickin' Ro ⁓ Russmann, which is like a German store, whatever, and I pay one euro and twenty cents for for a body wash. I'm like, ⁓ in the States, I could never like Carson: Out of here. It's stupid. It's stupid. Yeah. You you spend that much on body wash, it's just gonna burn your skin. Paulina: I'm not Brandon: All right. ⁓ Carson: No, it's it's absurd. It's absurd. Paulina: Exactly. Brandon: Inflation. Paulina: It's crazy. ⁓ but yeah, so w we're talking about salaries, we're talking about this idea of you know, how our lives are different or like the quality of life, Carson you said. What do you mean by quality of life? Like what does that mean to you to have like a quality of life? Carson: I mean day to day do I feel like I'm hustling around for nothing or is it worth the hustle? I mean Paulina: Okay. Carson: Accounting for the day to day over the course of a year. Okay, so salary is just one thing. Of course, that's really important, obviously, but then it's the cost of living in terms of how much is your rent, what are your basic expenses, your groceries, your gas, all that. All of that's way more affordable in Spain. Of course, we know the salaries are lower, but then Paulina: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Carson: There's also this whole hey, you have some paid time off that you are guaranteed 22 working days minimum in Spain. And then you have 12 to 14 public national holidays that might be different based on the region or community you're in, but that blows away the United States, where you're most private companies only offer the six days per year on the public holidays, and then there's no federal requirement for for paid time. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Right. Carson: They don't have to give their employees paid time off. And they disguise it as sick leave, but then we know there's a stigma behind taking sick leave, this whole like, ⁓ you don't want to work, you're lazy, and people get fired over shit like this because of the the work culture, the hustle culture. Brandon: Yeah. Yeah. Paulina: Okay. Yeah. Carson: So I'm thinking overall quality of life. I have access to high quality food. I have the services that I need. Maybe I'm missing some conveniences and luxuries that I would find in the US that I can't really find here. Maybe I don't have as many twenty-four hour ⁓ restaurants or grocery stores here in Spain that I do in the US. But especially since I'm I think simple living is kind of Paulina: Yeah. Carson: really what I've been going for is kind of my been my personality all along really, but like I don't need a whole lot. But I do need time off. I need guarantees. I need ⁓ reasonable reasonable prices for things that I buy because maybe I want to go out a few times a week. Maybe I don't want to break the bank every time I go out. And also right, ⁓ Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Help me out here guys, like that's another thing, yeah. Paulina: Paternity leave as well, no? Brandon: Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna bring up the p the maternity and paternity leave. Because not only maternity leave but paternity is the same amount of time. I think now it's up to sixteen weeks for both. And I think they're gonna try and explain it expand it. ⁓ expand it. No, expand it to twenty. I don't know when. I don't know if that's for next year or when. Paulina: Yeah. I think correct. Carson: Awesome. Paulina: Pretty good. Carson: It's like treat your workers right. You know, there's I understand you want them to work, they need to be productive, they need to be there a lot of days, but they're gonna come back, they're gonna appreciate the company more, they're gonna work harder, at least in theory, if you reward them and then you don't make them work until their bones break. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. And reward them and not ⁓ not a reward as a pizza party, you know? Like from from like dominoes or something like that. Like, bruh. Carson: Not a fucking pizza party. A day off. Like a whole day. Brandon: Mm. Carson: Telepizza, my ass. Brandon: no pizza. Paulina: Yeah. I mean pizza's good but Brandon: Pizza's amazing, but as far as quality of life, I don't want pizza to be part of that. Paulina: What do you mean? You don't have it for breakfast, lunch and dinner? Brandon: Not in college anymore. Those days are gone. Carson: Also break time. You know, it's pretty it's pretty tight there in the US for for break time. Like you're lucky to get an hour off for lunch. I think maybe it's maybe it's the standard, I don't remember. 'Cause I had some different I didn't have like t traditional full time jobs in the US, so Brandon, what what are your thoughts there? Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: trying to think. I remember usually it was I think it was like thirty minutes. I think i ⁓ yeah, thirty minutes for lunch and I remember maybe yeah, thirty Carson: For lunch. Paulina: Yeah, it's something ridiculous. Carson: Like a fifteen? A fifteen and a thirty or something like that. Brandon: No, I just remember having a thirty minute lunch break and I remember if you smoked you had a smoke break. Like like a five minute break for that. But Carson: But just become a smoker real quick. Just get a little extra break. Brandon: That's just it. Yeah, exactly. It's like, yeah, well just gonna go sit outside for five minutes and come back in. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: But here in Spain, I mean it's okay, so like places close in the middle of the day between let's say three or four to five or six, they close. But that's that time, so those employees can go have lunch, not rush, enjoy their food, maybe have a thirty minute siesta, go back to work. That's Spain. That doesn't happen in the US. You just gotta grind through it and you're oftentimes eating at your desk and if you take longer than the Brandon: Impossible. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: ⁓ the person next to you it's like well you're a piece of shit and you're not working hard enough. But Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: Sure. ⁓ Carson: You know, here it's life is slower, life is more savory, like you savor it, the time and the moments. ⁓ we talked about sobra mesa before. Not that you get to have that Monday through Friday, but on the weekends it's it's nice to not have to rush as soon as you finish eating. You can take your time almost like you'd be at ho at at at your house and and talk with the people and you know, Brandon: It's different. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Maybe sometimes it's a pain in the ass asking for the bill for like ten minutes, you know. Brandon: Yeah. That's th that's what I was gonna say. I saw a post about that the other day and it's like, Yeah, that struggle is real. The trying to get your bill from a waiter here. Wha w while in the US they're like, here's your bill, like get out so someone else can come in, we need our money. Exact opposite here. Paulina: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Carson: It can be. It really can be. Yeah. And so since I'm used to that when I go to the US I've I don't feel I don't get salty about it, but it's also kinda like, Hey, thank you for the bill. Don't expect my ass to get up and run away. Like I'll pay it when I'm ready. Thank you for thank you for real refilling my water after I have two sips. I appreciate that. but and that you can't forget about the tipping, so that's another thing. Tipping is Yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Exactly. Paulina: No, I'll have to ⁓ yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: That's something that like I get I get frustrated about because it's like just pay your fucking workers, that's it. Like just pay them the ⁓ money that they need to be paid, that's it. Like they don't need to be up my ass all the time and asking me, like, is everything okay? Would you like more water? as Carson said, like, you take two sips, they're over there trying to refill, you know, the water spills over. Like, we don't need that. Like just Carson: That's systemic. Paulina: Pay your workers. I get it. They're doing that because they need the fucking money, but just like the system when it comes to that, like in the States, it's it's so shitty. Carson: Yeah. Brandon: But what It's one of those things you don't realize until you travel and you see that we're the only country that does that. Paulina: Yeah. And for me, like yeah, I had a like a huge like culture shock I would say when I moved to Poland and I didn't know if I should be tipping or not. Like I would go get my nails done, like in the States you go get your nails done, your hair done, whatever you always tip. Brandon: It's like it's not necessary. Paulina: In Poland, like now that culture is starting to appear a little bit more, like especially if it's a hairdresser that you always go to or to the nail to the same nail place, like you're always gonna give them a tip. But I just never knew how much to tip. So I'm like, I don't know if I like what amount of money because first of all Polish money for me felt like it's not real money. You know, like they use the Polish lottery and they don't use euro, like it's not dollars. I'm like, I don't know how to freaking calculate it, like Carson: Mm. Brandon: You got that monopoly money. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: Spending it left and right, you know? It's like Yeah, exactly. So it's like this is not real money. So I would like leave like, I don't know, fifteen Zlotech when my nail set cost, I don't know, thirty, and I like, I'm gonna give them a fifty percent you know type of thing because I'm like, This doesn't feel real. This this money is stupid money. So for me, like Carson: It's true. It's ⁓ man. Paulina: Still up until today, like when I go to Poland, I never know like the etiquette of like how to tip. Like do I tip in a restaurant? Do people tip? Because for example, when my sister goes out, I see her that she would like leave a tip. But then I go out with some other friends and they don't. So I'm like, is it normal? Like I know people make minimum wage generally in a restaurant. Sorry? Well I don't Carson: Mm. I would expect you to know this. I would expect you to know this. Brandon: Sorry to let you down, but no. Carson: Ha ha. Paulina: yeah, and the thing is like ⁓ when we go out, like you know, I always say like okay, you guys pay and then like I'll send you like money or I'll give you cash because I'm like I don't I don't want to pay and then like leave a tip and then they say, ⁓ here we don't live tips or like I don't know if it's disrespectful, you know, because in as ⁓ JC said, for example, I think it was in Japan, right? that when you leave a tip Carson: Yeah. China, yeah, maybe China. China. Paulina: Or China or Japan, I don't remember which country it was now. that's disrespectful, right? So I don't know what is the Polish etiquette. Like nail salons and hair, I generally live tips. But bars and whatever? No, like but in the States if you don't live a tip in a bar, they're like, mm, we're gonna spit in your drink next time. Carson: Huh. I'm trying to remember when I visited. I d I don't think I tipped. I don't think I tipped. Maybe I did. Brandon: No. Carson: I think I Brandon: Yeah, I for I think you bring my I was just thinking about that. I forgot about those days. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Yeah. feel like I tipped in the in Poland, but I wanna say it wasn't it was more like ten percent. It wasn't twenty, which is the standard in the US. Fifteen to twenty. I tip twenty. 'Cause I'm not a fucking bastard. Yeah. but it it's just wild. You shouldn't you know, that's part of going out and enjoying it. It's like Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Twenty is like the minimum now. Paulina: Crazy. Yeah. Okay. Carson: It costs what it costs. You don't have to do math. You don't have to think, how was the service? I don't want to have a bad reputation for not leaving a good tip if I want to come back to this restaurant. like no, you're a paying customer, they offer the service and the good. And so the food you're paying for, service should be included in the price which you put on your menu. And if you can't do your own business forecasting and ⁓ just think about how much you need to pay your employees, then maybe you need to adjust your menu every year. Paulina: Just like Yeah. Yeah. Carson: I don't care, just like take it off of the customer's responsibility and put it back in the business's hands. That doesn't seem very complicated. I know people would be more likely to go out in the US if they didn't have to do math every time and they'd have to worry about tipping. Although people go out anyways and they spend all the money they don't have and as it is, so I guess they don't really need that. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Brandon: All right. Yeah, they don't care. Once again. It's something you see once you travel. But if you don't travel, well it's just a norm. Paulina: Right. Carson: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paulina: Yeah. And it's it's it's a stupid thing. Like I get it that those people, you know, need to make money and whatever, like because they're getting paid minimum wage or under minimum wage, but Brandon: There's yeah. In the US it's two thirteen. Paulina: What? Brandon: Waiters, yeah. If you work in a restaurant it's like two dollars thirteen. That's why they get that's why they have the whole tipping system, is because their salaries are so low. Paulina: ⁓ no, I got paid more than that. Like, way more than that when I was w working as a waitress. But maybe that's also because it was New York, but and a small restaurant. So maybe Carson: Yes. Paulina: Yeah, they're all been here but they got money. They got money. Carson: Albania I think when I was a busboy it was four I wanna say it was like four twenty five and then tips. ⁓ it was laughable. I mean it's just dumb at that point. Like bro. Brandon: Yeah. But yeah. The minimum wage now is I think it's seven twenty five. But for waiters, waiters and waitresses it's that that was it, two thirteen, two fifteen, something like that. Paulina: And in Spain the ⁓ the minimum wage is higher than that. In general. I think it's like almost ten dollars ⁓ t ten Euros or something like that. Nine Brandon: Yeah, the min the minimum wage here is ⁓ what's that a thousand two twenty Euros. Carson: Clutch. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. So per hour from from what I've seen in a lot of places they say like about less than ten Euros, I think. Or around ten Euros. Like nine point two five or something. Brandon: Four years. Yeah. Let's see. Paulina: About to do some maths. My goodness. Hmm. So we can surely say that we don't miss dipping in in the US. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Mathematics Brandon: No. Carson: Tipping. Just charge me what you want to charge me, and I'll pay what I want to pay. End of story. But I will say. Brandon: Definitely not. Mm-hmm. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Carson: restaurants in the United States, we've got all types. We've got all cuisines and not just a few options, we have a shit ton of options. And so if you don't like one, you go to another, you can change every weekend until you find the right one. And it's delicious. So we have variety and we have quantity of restaurants that cannot be matched. I don't think anywhere, but certainly not in Spain. Paulina: Hold. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That really surprised me that when I moved to Spain I like, What do you mean you have five restaurants and they all serve the same thing? Just in a different style. You have a marinera, marinero, another weird salad, and that's it. Carson: I will say that. Brandon: Yeah. Bicicleta B Carson: Your money there. Brandon: Tapas Paulina: Yeah. Like how do you Carson: It's funny because that's like the one cuisine we don't have in the US. I mean they they do but they try, I will say. They they I s I feel like they just try more than they get it right. Spanish cuisine is you gotta come to Spain. You got to. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. For sure. yeah. Carson: But I'll I'll but Brandon: What about since we're on the topic of food, what about the time schedule for eating? How long did it take you to adjust to the change here? And which do you prefer? Carson: Mm. Paulina: Go ahead, Carson. No, no, no, you can start. Carson: You, Paulina. No, you. No, ladies first, mid gentleman. Brandon: We are gentlemen. Paulina: honestly, my time table always was all over the place when when it comes to eating because I'm one of those people that just I just eat all day long and and snack all day long. You guys work with me. You guys know how that look like, you know? Before eleven before eleven thirty, before we had our snack break, I was already snacking. in between classes. ⁓ then before lunch I was I was already hungry. So I was like, okay, another snack. ⁓ then I would go home, I would have another snack, and then finally I would have dinner. So for me, mmm, eating schedule does not exist in in my mind. Carson: Ha ha. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: In Poland they have lunch similar hour to what they have in Spain, so around maybe a little bit earlier, one thirty, two o'clock, ⁓ generally is is lunch time. But they have their dinner very early. ⁓ in most places, like Carson: It's the same. Mm, yeah. Paulina: seven PM the latest because they say, ⁓ it's bad for your stomach and for your sleep to eat so late at night because your cholesterol is gonna go up and all the crazy things. So they eat dinner. Yeah. They eat dinner at like six thirty or seven and I'm like, bro, at ten PM I'm hungry again. Like, how? so Poland has its own system. ⁓ in the United States for me Brandon: Hmm. Carson: That's a bunch of malarkey. Paulina: I would eat whenever because I was a college ⁓ I was a college student and when I would go to class and come back and whatever, my parents would normally already have their lunch. I would eat out somewhere for dinner, they would have their dinner earlier, I would have something and I would go out and you know grab some beers with friends. So that didn't really exist for me in the States. So here I adjusted pretty well, but I need I need my snacks. Like Carson: Mm. Paulina: If I don't have my snacks in between the time of like lunchtime, which is at I don't know, two or three PM and dinner, which is at nine or ten PM, mm, I'll be walking around like super dizzy and be like, ⁓ my god, I'm gonna die You know, I overreact. Carson: Get the scroll some snacks. Paulina: Yeah, exactly. Carson, what about you? Carson: Hurry! Run! Well well I have always eaten not so much snacks, but I mean yeah, I I eat every three to four hours. That hasn't changed. So whereas I used to eat lunch in the US closer to twelve, maybe twelve thirty, one at the latest, of course lunch has shifted later in Spain to be closer to between one thirty and three on average. ⁓ I guess right now I'm eating lunch earlier than I used to at one thirty. And then I don't Yeah, it's quite early. 'Cause ⁓ yeah, at the school we were eat we eat at three, right? Yeah. It's true. Brandon: Super early. Paulina: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Carson: ⁓ but like today for example I woke up late, it's Sunday, so I ended up eating we ended up eating lunch at like three thirty. Kinda crazy. but so basically a a typical day is you have your breakfast. Some people have something in between, like you Paulina between breakfast and lunch. I don't typically I have a huge breakfast. I usually eat four eggs, ⁓ yogurt and fruits and walnuts and a piece of dark chocolate or something similar. So I'm pretty good for like a good Brandon: Mm-hmm. Carson: solid four hours at least. Sometimes I stretch that to five so I get my lunch, whatever. Boom. I usually have something between lunch and dinner. ⁓ around five thirty six. Then dinner, yes, is later in Spain. ⁓ whereas in the US we eat at six, six thirty. Some people eat even eat five thirty or five. I'm just that blows my mind. That's way too early. That's I even when I lived there I never ate that early for dinner. But Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Ridiculous. Carson: Yeah, now it's like nine is the sweet spot. Eight thirty is awesome if you can if I can eat dinner by eight thirty. But nine finishing nine thirty is so common. And so it hasn't really changed for me because like Paulina was saying, like if I don't eat anything Paulina: Yeah. Carson: before bed, at least a few hours before bed. I'm gonna be hungry. I'm gonna get in bed and be like, hey, yeah, food's like I start I'll just start thinking of random foods. I'm like, yeah, that food like, ooh I like that. I'm like, ⁓ wait, that means I'm hungry. And then why am I not sleeping? Okay, I go to the kitchen, eat some cereal, whatever. That's what that motion was for all you freaks out there. Yeah. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: Like, ⁓ we got ice cream? Brandon: Let's see. Paulina: It's like you open the fridge door, you know, in the middle of the night, like a little ralf trying some food. It's like, no. ⁓ Brandon: Mm-hmm. In the in the dark. Open it up. Carson: So sometimes it'll be like that. Sometimes you gotta open that fridge, man. So hey. I like the schedule here. It pretty much it's not s it wasn't so different for me. Brandon, what about you? Brandon: No, it was definitely different for me. 'Cause like before before I came here, like I said, I was in I was in school and well yeah. You have lunch at well, whenever you had in between classes, but I'm also thinking like when I was work when I was working I'd have lunch super early, like eleven thirty, twelve. Yeah. And then like you said, dinner around six. Paulina: Okay. Brandon: But then I don't remember like what I do for the rest of the day. Like I I'm always hungry now, so I'm I'm sure I was hungry. But I don't remember like what happened from like having dinner like six six thirty and then what happened until breakfast the next day. Like I don't I don't know. But that's the thing I don't remember. I don't know. No, I was I ne I've never gone to bed before before midnight. Never. So yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Sleep for dinner. Carson: You didn't eat you didn't eat anything after dinner? Paulina: Brandon had sleep for her, that's it. Carson: Yeah. Well what time would you go to bed? You go to bed or ⁓ well. See yeah, from six thirty to midnight, if I don't eat anything, forget about it. I won't sleep. I just can't sleep. Brandon: Yeah, now that's impossible, but back then I don't know. Who knows? I remember coming here, like the first year working, and having to adjust that schedule because at like twelve o'clock, like my stomach just was going crazy. I'm just starving. I'm like in class trying to teach these kids and my stomach making all these noises. I was like, I should be eating now. Yeah. It's like adjusting to that late Spanish lunch. Paulina: We're all at the starving children. Carson: Really? Huh? Paulina: Some Bohemian rhapsody coming out of Brandon's coming. Carson: Is this some real life? Paulina: No Feel me Brandon: Okay. Paulina: ⁓ man. Carson: Then Brandon: Now it's good, but in the beginning it was rough. Carson: Yeah, I wanna say I used to I used to eat almost the middle the the morning snack here in Spain between breakfast and lunch. I used to eat that more often. I think I definitely were when I was working as a PE teacher because I was on my feet, I was burning through it faster. I was burning through my breakfast faster, so I needed that like eleven, that little snack, some yogurt, some a little bit of protein, a little bit carbs. That would get me through to because we were eating lunch at three, so I like, if I'm gonna go from shit, from like she from like from eight or nine. No, seven seven or eight. Nothing until three in the afternoon. Forget about it. No way. Impossible. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: She Carson: So it depends on the job, depends on you're sitting down, you're standing up, you're moving around, all that. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah, that works. And since we're talking about this already, I mean we I know we already talked about like sobre mesa and all of that. I know Carson, you're a big fan of that. not so much with Brandon. Carson: Big fat. Brandon: No gracias. Paulina: How does that like how was that experience for you guys? Because I know, for example, in the States, it's much more common just to be on the go. Like you grab a lunch with your friend and you sort of just, you know, quick lunch and that's it, you know? You sort of go your different ways. ⁓ so how how was that experience like adjusting? Brandon: I don't know, you just had to take some time and get used to it, I guess. Also because all our partners are Spanish, so we were kinda just thrown into it. Yeah, I mean you don't you didn't get any pre information about that. I was like, all we're gonna be sitting here for about three hours. No, it's just like there, you just sitting there, you finish lunch, he's like, All let's go and it's like, nah Sit down sit on down. We're gonna be here for a while. Carson: Not much of a choice there, yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Carson: Yeah. It's like, ⁓ but then we have cheese. ⁓ but then we have dessert. ⁓ but then we have coffee. ⁓ but then we have ⁓ a little bit of liquor. Why not? Why not have some liquor at the at the end of all this, just fill our bellies with more healthy things. But it is nice. I don't know, it tells kind of taught me to slow down, to enjoy the ritual of eating, not Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Not the necessity, not like that whole, hey, I need energy and if I'm gonna keep working my ass off, working my life away, I gotta have food. I need fuel. No. It's here, it's okay, let's enjoy these delicious flavors. Let's take our time. Let's do one dish. Let's share it. Let's appreciate, let's talk about it. ⁓ we like it, we don't like it, whatever. Okay, the next one comes. There's no rush. You get to graze, you know, you get to appreciate the meal as this gathering, this event as Paulina: Yeah. Carson: As opposed to the necessity of consuming calories. So I I do think it's nice that way that it turns into a social activity as opposed to something you're doing before you go do your social activity. It can be, you know, the activity itself or the main activity. And it's fine. And people you get to see how people act before eating, which is, you know, depending on how hungry they are, it can be a little like, hey, how are you? I'm great. Awesome. You know, no Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: energy like or you know you're just meeting people and then you're you're meeting people over a meal it's a different story and by the end you're more comfortable you're more relaxed you're joking ⁓ you share you have something to talk about you could talk about the food in your country or how it's different or ⁓ I where I grew up we did it like this and Brandon: Yeah. Carson: You know, it's just things kinda tend to flow better that way. And it's more special. Just more special. And I love food. And I love food culture. So Spain? Thank you. Brandon: ⁓ See your spot. Paulina: Yeah. I'm trying to think of like how to connect it to Polish culture because I think since my household is so like I don't want to say Americanized, but like we don't have the culture of necessarily sitting down for Carson: It's my place, man. I wouldn't yeah. Yeah. Paulina: Like to sit down and have a meal like very typical. Like for lunch, yes, you know? We sit down like together, when I go visit my parents, we have lunch together and whatever. But dinner is sort of like you guys take care of what like your own food, you know? which I think I don't know depending on the state maybe, depending on like each family, ⁓ because we can't also generalize it. Like we can't say that everybody in the States has dinner at six PM or six thirty or whatever. Because that also depends where where you work and what type of family you have and whatever. So we normally in the States we had dinner around, yeah, six thirty and we would actually sit down for dinner if if I was at home. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: But in Poland, when I go visit my parents, they're like, you guys go out for dinner if you want to. Like, there is dinner if you guys want to prepare something. You guys have your own schedule. Whatever. ⁓ But I think my family is a little bit of an exception when it comes to that. ⁓ in traditional Polish families, I I don't know how it works. Because I never had like a, so to say, traditional Polish family. So it's difficult for me to imagine. Brandon: A traditional Paulina: Like sitting down to have lunch together every day, to have dinner together every day. And I know some families do that. ⁓ and it's fine, you know, but that was never my family. So I'm sort of trying to see like how many Polish families do keep that tradition, you know, because I know my parents, for example, when they were growing up, it was more traditional for them to have, you know, lunch at a specific hour. and sit down with their you know, brothers, sisters and whatever and have lunch. Same idea for dinner. But I think due to the factors, like the external factors, like work, ⁓ I don't know, traffic, whatever other things, you know, that sort of changes. And I think every like the culture starts to change a little bit. Right, so those traditions start to change as well. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Culture is a a good a good point that I wanted to kinda wanted to talk about too is how we ⁓ sorry about that. There's a little mini earthquake here. Yeah. Good thing nothing got broken. what was I gonna say? So culture. The food culture is food culture is a big part of it, but also Brandon: The volcano erupted. Paulina: Also expensive. Brandon: Culture. Coucher. Carson: Street life is so much a part of Spanish culture. How is that in Poland? Is there I mean, there's a little bit of the Paulina: Mm a little bit, but since the weather is not so good, like winter time you're not gonna be sitting outside minus twenty degrees, you know, Celsius or twenty five. I mean some people do it. If they want to, fine. Not my cup of tea. during the summer, yes, you know, in bigger cities definitely. But it's not like it is in Spain. And something that I've noticed is that in Spain you have children, I'm talking about like three year olds, running around like at midnight or one in morning, like no sleep schedule, like whatever. In Poland Carson: I don't have kids. Brandon: Yeah. No. Paulina: No. I mean, especially now with the parenting style that, you know, it's like soft parenting. My child has to be in bed by seven PM, whate like my parents didn't raise me that way. Like I would be at my grandma's house running around until like midnight, whatever. But nowadays, like that's a complete different story. Like Polish parents if they came here Brandon: Some of these are Paulina: and saw that children are running around and parking till one in the morning, I'm talking about little babies, they would have a heart attack. So Carson: Yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: It's very different. Okay. Brandon: Still strange for me to see little kids out so late. Or like when you go to a bar and it's like the kids in the bar, it's just like like this doesn't make sense. This shouldn't be happening. Carson: Yeah, I can't say I like that aspect of of Spanish street life. Yeah, k people are very and sometimes they just their kids are running around being obnoxious and they don't discipline them very well or at all. No, so that's ⁓ yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Dis discipline. What is that? Carson: This is true. I I tend to forget about that, but they yeah. I wanna say that my wife gets a little more bothered by that than than me, but it is it's kind of annoying, yeah, it's kind of annoying. Especially well Yeah. I was thinking more just how you know, here in Spain, especially if you're in a city or town where the restaurants are basically on the street, the bars are on the street, you got people walking around. Everybody's outside. It's very common to eat standing up, you know, ⁓ especially if you're in place like, I don't know, Paulina: I'm just Brandon: Everyone's outside. Carson: Well well just where tapas bars are heavy, or pinchos if you're in the north of Spain, where you can go from one bar, have a few pinchos, have a few tapas, drink, you're standing up, go to the next one, dr eat dinner at like three or four different places, because you're just ha having a little bit here and there. And and you know that's just part of like the whole active experience, ⁓ socializing, you know, so eating is more of a the social Brandon: Go to the next one. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Carson: event. And then just the fact that people are doing more in the streets, the kids are playing until late at night, ⁓ the kids are walking around with their friends, the curfews are l maybe a little more lax here, seems a bit safer here in Spain, so ki parents aren't as worried about their kids being out a little late, especially in the summer, of course. ⁓ Paulina: Yeah. Carson: But I feel like I wanna say and I could be wrong, but I feel like kids just get outside more here in Spain. Maybe in the US, they're they're kind of homebodies, like they just hang out indoors more. I don't know, I could be wrong, that's just the impression I have. What do you think? Brandon: I don't know. I think it also like you say, it kinda depends on where you live. 'Cause I noticed that like being in Moorska, like kids are always outside. Like they're always outside, they're playing football, they're doing just walking around, even they're just well, most of the time just sitting on a bench with their phones, but at least they're outside. They're not s stuck inside all the time. But then when I actually talk to some of my students, they're like, you know, I'm not going outside, I just stay at home. Like it's the weekend, I'm not doing anything, like why am I gonna go outside? And it's just like Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Carson: Ha ha. Brandon: I don't know, forty eight hours in your room. You might want to try to go outside and see the light of day or something. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. My goodness, guys, I'm crying here. Just had a whole coughing fit. Sorry. Aye. Okay. No, I'm I'm I'm good. It just okay. no no, I'll be a I'll be aye. Aye. My stomach is gonna start to make some weird sounds. No, alright. Brandon: All right. You good? We need to call Tony. Carson: Get her some snacks. She needs snacks. Tony, get the fuck in here! Brandon: Yeah. ⁓ Mm-hmm. Carson: Part two. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: No but but it's true I think it really depends on the on the ⁓ region like and area. I live close to the beach and I see like kids during the summer all the time like next like outside of my freaking apartment. I'm like guys like go away. Like go to the beach. Why are you sitting here on the steps? Like ⁓ So no that's not like Carson: Like talk somewhere else, please. Yeah, go talk go to the fucking park. Paulina: In this area it's fine. Like we we I see kids all the time. Like you see people walking round. but what was I gonna say about nightlife and this sort of like street life and whatever in Poland yet that doesn't really it's not really common. Like during the summer, yes. Like they put like a little terrace outside, chairs and whatever, and people have their lunch or dinner outside, but not not as common and not as like popular I would say as it is in Spain. Like you normally just if you pick a place you stay in that place. It's not a thing to necessarily go like restaurant hopping or whatever, like topa hopping. ⁓ which made me think of the United States, which I think in the States it's more common to go like bar hopping, for example. Carson: Yeah. ⁓ huh. PO Paulina: Like if you go out for dinner, you go out for dinner. But like after that, like you go bar hopping, you know. Carson: Yeah. And that's that's a good thing. Good thing to talk about. Drinking without eating. Very American. Brandon: Yeah. Yeah. Definitely not here. Paulina: Yeah. No, no, no. Carson: Not here. No. And I and I have to say it's much better. To have something to eat with what you're drinking. Gives you time to realize how drunk you are before you get the next one. And usually you just need to go slower. ⁓ Brandon: It's like when you go to Granada. You go to Granada, you order a drink, then they give you food. It's like I didn't even order this. And I threw me off at first. I was like, why did you just give me like a hamburger? Like I just ordered a like a beer. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Yeah. I have to pay for this? But it's included. They give you that. Paulina: That's another thing. That's another thing when you go out for like beers and like you're with a group of friends or whatever. And Murcia happens from time to time as well. Here in in the area like next to the beach, I've seen it happen as well where they like bring you I don't know like little peanuts or olives or whatever. You know, like once I got like gummies, like sour gummies. I was like sour gummies. So ⁓ Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Yes, yes. Yeah, they always give you something. Brandon: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we go out to get drinks, yeah. Carson: Yeah. You you might have to ask, but they have it on hand, like they're ready. Say, yeah, yeah, Fruto Seco, you get some some mixed nuts, some cocktail mix, some popcorn, some just give me something and you know You know. So good. So good. So Spain for the win on that, where that's concerned. ⁓ and the beer's colder. Beer's colder here. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah, that's nice. Brandon: Parker. Keep keep you drinking. Salty popcorn. Paulina: Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. In the States it's like they bring you they bring you something and they're like, so that will be like ten dollars extra? It's like fuck out of here, I'm not gonna even touch that. Carson: Yeah. Extra honey mustard, okay that's two euros, two dollars. Avocado, ten dollars more. Paulina: I c you you said you want an extra guac? Okay, that'll be two dollars. There we go. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Good. Take out alone. Carson: But at least you get free water in the US. You get free water. All the water you can drink. Now what? Brandon: No now they they have that here now, but they give you water but they you have to ask for a glass of water they give you one. They're required by law to do it. Yeah. Carson: ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. Paulina: Really? I know that. Carson: Good. Give me that tap water. Brandon: Yep. Paulina: The Murcia top water. Hm. Delicious. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Questionable. Nah, it's not the worst. Come on. Paulina: Grow a third arm. Brandon: No sure. Carson: That's not bad. Madrid does have the best though. Brandon: A Dread Water Scape, yeah. Paulina: Yeah, for sure. Yeah. What else what else we got on on our list? I'm over here looking at our list. And we have something about like differences in language expectations. I mean, I think that's a pretty big one. Like we all have to learn Spanish, whether we're still learning or not. Brandon at this point is like at a C3 level. ⁓ Carson: What else is on the No no no, I got you, I got you, I gotcha. Yeah. Brandon: C three, yeah. C three. No. Actually certification only have B two. I need I needed it for the university. Carson: C three C seven suit. Paulina: Huh. He got certified. It don't count. Carson: Yeah, and you got that a million years ago, so at this point. No, I'm saying he could he could eas easily get a C one at this point, C two probably if he studied. He'd get a C two if he studied. Paulina: C three. Way above that. Brandon: The I remember the listing for the B two was quite difficult. Carson: Dude, when I hear it for the B2 English, I'm like, yeah, good luck with that buddy. Like that shit is hard, man. And then you know in the Spanish one, they're gonna throw in some murcianos from El Campo, from the La Huerta, and it's gonna be like, ⁓ yeah, ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, mmm? Motherfuckers. Unbelievable. Get the fuck out of here. Paulina: Should Brandon: No No no yeah. No that's what it that's what the listener was. Paulina: Okay. Brandon: That's exactly what my listening was. It w it's two like old guys, two farmers talking about lemons. I was like, what is this? Paulina: Yeah. Carson: No way, man. No way. Spanish slang and rural shit is way harder than American slang and rural shit. Way harder. And not not just because Spanish is my second language, but come on. Brandon: But just you don't understand it. At least with like English as Southern America, like you don't understand it because you don't know what the meaning is 'cause it has a different meaning. But here you like ⁓ I don't I don't know what they said. Carson: You can't process it here. Like Can you smell that? what? Paulina: I I don't even know like I don't know how to write that. Like, okay, I'll just sure. Brandon: Hmm. Mm-hmm. Carson: you ever ask somebody to repeat something and they repeat it and you ask ⁓ again and that point you're just like, ⁓ okay So you still don't know, like nothing has your brain is just not getting it. The signal is not being received. Paulina: Welcome to my life. At this point at this point, my mother-in-law, when she says like a weird word, because there were so many times she would tell me something and she would throw in like a random word that I like never heard and she would see my face goes like blank, you know, blank stare, like disconnected. And now she she actually like when she realizes that maybe it's a weird word, she tries to explain what it is, but it took her a while, you know, because Carson: Huh. ⁓ they know. Thank you. Yes. Brandon: No. Okay. Paulina: There are many times she would say like a word now I know what it means, but like for example, peluusa. And I didn't know what a f what the fuck was a pelu. W wh how would you translate peluca like lint dirt? Like right? Like lint. Yeah. And and I was like what the Brandon: It's like ⁓ what is it? Yeah, dust, yeah, it's dust, basically just like dust on the ground, yeah. Carson: I was I was gonna ask you for it. Paulina: fuck is a peluca and she was like and I was like okay like she was cleaning something what was she cleaning and then she had to actually physically show me what it is because I was like I was like ⁓ okay sure now I get it Brandon: Mm-hmm. He's like go pick it up like here this. It's like, nah, throw throw that away. Why'd you pick that up? Carson: Ha ha ha. That's great. Paulina: But yeah, so many words that she would tell me. I'm like, sure. And it doesn't help that in the United States we learn like South American Spanish. I don't know about you guys, but I learned my first contact. Yeah, my first contact with Spanish was actually I had a teacher in middle school who was from Cuba. So like that's a whole different level. Carson: True. Yeah. Well if you learn Spanish, yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Yeah. Paulina: Then I grew up with a lot of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, and then you move here and you ask them for jugo de naranja and they just like You're weird. What? Like they know what it is, but Carson: But livery. Brandon: Is that no? No Carson: Sumo. Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Yeah, my my mother in law it took me a while to to not have so many questions as to what she was saying. ⁓ my my father in law was always there to give me the most neutral word or the most Americanized or the most you know So he was there to yeah, he Brandon: Mm-hmm. So we're gonna break this down for you. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: And he wa it was funny too, because he'd always look at her and be like, he doesn't understand what you're saying. You can't say that word or th those expressions with him. She's like, you gotta talk to him the way I talk to him. You gotta, hey, Carson. I'm like, ⁓ see, total total. And so yeah, it's ⁓ thank God I had him or I have him. Still to this day sometimes I'm like, hey, you wanna translate your wife or what? ⁓ Brandon: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Carson: It's not that bad, but in the beginning, yeah. That was that was that was tough. Not to mention in Murcia, we can't we can't ⁓ forget to mention that they don't pronounce the S's among other letters, but mainly the S. Mucha gracia. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: S's are missing. Mm-hmm. Carson: No, it's ⁓ there there's something missing there. So like you said, Paulina, sometimes you're like, I think I know the word, but could ya spell it? Could ya actually say it the way, you know everybody in your country could understand it? Paulina: ⁓ yeah. Brandon: But that's the thing, they spell it the same way that they sell it. And they say it like there's no there's no S's in it because they're so used to it, like they don't they don't put the S's and I'm like, dude, you're missing so many letters in your spelling. Not only when you say the word but Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Sometimes. Sometimes. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. For me I still have a problem. For me I think one of the worst things when I moved here was the the letter J. Carson: Da rota Paulina: with that h sound. I'm like, why am I trying to spit on somebody, you know? And that's how To Tony was telling me, like, it's like as if you're trying to spit. Like it's a h sound. I'm like, that sounds so disgusting. You know? I'm like, I don't want to make that sound. So every time it was like I would call my friend because I have a friend name named Javi. We have a mutual friend and I call him and I was like, Javi and it was like Carson: Sounds so German. Brandon: True. Carson: It's true. Paulina: Why do you say my name like that? I don't know, I was told that I need to say it like that. So now it's it's better, but every time I have to say a word with with the letter J, I'm like, okay, I have to mentally prepare myself to say it that there is a sound, but not not so strong. Like that, you know, somewhere to find that balance. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: It's true though. It's true though. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Carson: I did a strong one the other day. I think it was even this weekend I was like I think I was like, ⁓ that was a little too much. Brandon: And it's like it shouldn't be that long. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: I forgot I'm trying to remember what I said. I think it was just Friday night, yeah. The fuck what I what was I saying? I don't know. It No. No, I don't know what it was. But it came out really strong. I was like, ⁓ he definitely understood me. That was a solid hota. ⁓ man. But yeah, it is one of those where gotta measure the J. Paulina: Acho Yeah. Or the H's that's some of the H's are silent, but sometimes they're not, and you're like, when is it silent? When is it not? Carson: think they always are, no? Aren't they always silent? When are they not silent? Or is it a G? Is it the G or the H? Paulina: In the middle of the word, I don't think they're silent. the H. Like you have hola, for example, right? Like you don't have the H there. You don't say hola. Or I don't know how else you could say that Yeah. But I don't know, I think there the Carson: At least I don't. Brandon: I'm sure there's someone out there. Paulina: I don't know, for example, like in the middle of the word I think sometimes you pronounce the H. I think there are definitely are like exceptions. Carson: Yeah. It's hard to think. what I'm saying. It depends on the word. For me, I think ⁓ c what you're saying, that phenomenon you're you're describing, I I feel like I have that with a g. La G. 'Cause sometimes a g depending of it's like you say g you don't say hui, but then other times the g is silent. Like so that yeah, I know what you I know what mean. But in general, if we have to Paulina: Like it makes different sounds. Yeah. Carson: In general though, the Spanish pronunciation word for word compared to English, so much easier. English, when I teach English, I'm just like, I don't know why we say it this way. I'm sorry. I just like English. I just throw up my hands and I go, English. Don't know why. This is just how we do it. Yeah, move on. You your country needs to improve their English, so learn it. Brandon: ⁓ yeah. Wood. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Just learn it, accept it, move on. Paulina: Exactly. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: Yeah. No, it's true. And it's funny enough because Polish also has that in common with Spanish. That if you know the alphabet, you'll know how to read. Like you know how to well in every country if you know the alphabet, you know how to read, hopefully. But if you know the alphabet, you know how to like pronounce things. So similar in Spain, like that the letters correspond to the sound. Carson: The Polish Brandon: Step one. Paulina: In English that changes. Like the E sound can have many different depending on the word that you say. Carson: A has five sounds or six or whatever. Paulina: For example, in Polish it's always the same. So for me, I think it was very easy to sort of adjust to Spanish because I knew I was like, this is similar to Polish. Like that I don't have to make up sounds except for the J, G, and H sounds, then that's a different story. But other than that, I was like, ⁓ okay, that I can see that similarity. Carson: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Paulina: My Polish is is is not that great though. ⁓ I can communicate, but that's a whole different thing. When I moved to Poland Ooh, it was rough. I I people knew right off the bat, like from the accent that they're like, F you didn't live here, like you didn't grow up here, like what is wrong with you? Where are you from? Like Yeah. Carson: Wow. Can only imagine. Brandon: Foreigner, foreigner Carson: She is Russian. She is not from here. Paulina: But funny enough, you know, that also allowed me to get away from a couple of tickets and fines and whatnot because people I guess took some pity on me, so ⁓ Maybe I should Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't be saying, you know, that in in a public forum, but in Poland I got away from from I think like I would say two fines. Carson: There was a curva peligrosa, do you know? Haha. Paulina: Because they were like, ⁓ yeah, she's she's not from here. Like she doesn't know the rules. Like she's she's a foreigner. She hasn't lived here for many years, so Brandon: Alright. Mm. Carson: I think that happened to me once in Spain. I was fumbling for a document, he's like, ⁓ get out of here, Gidi. Cool. Not my car anyways. I just lied to you. It's stolen. Not really. It's my famous car. Brandon: Say thank you, thank you. Paulina: Yeah. ⁓ my god. Yeah. Carson: But yeah, you definitely realize similarities the longer you're learning and using a new language, a different language. And maybe not with the pronunciation, but other things, other words specifically. Some words are in Spanish are much easier for me to remember because I either find the similar word in English or because of The prefixes and suffixes, things that I learned back in middle school actually really really served me now. So yeah, language is cool. But the expectation here is that in Spain, if you don't speak Spanish, it's gonna be hard for you to live here and fully assimilate. ⁓ because English is not so common unless you live in Madrid and Barcelona, maybe Valencia. Paulina: Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's what you're saying. Brandon: Yeah. Big cities, yeah, but outside of that, our tourist areas like around here the beaches. Paulina: For sure. Carson: Yeah, but even then you go into a shop or a restaurant, they don't speak that much English there. Paulina: First yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: They do, the the bare minimum, but you're not gonna have full on conversations with people. Brandon: No, definitely not. Paulina: Funny enough, people actually like when I go to restaurants, not always, but sometimes it happens. They see that I'm so freaking white and they walk up to me and they go, Hello, how are you? ⁓ what would you like for drink? And I'm like, ⁓ my god. I'm like, habla Espanol, por favor and then they go, ⁓ bien bien and they get so happy and I'm like, hi like I I get it, you know, but I'm like, come on, like Carson: Huh. Brandon: You got You got turning Pablo Escobarono. Carson: ¿A quién me habla español? Paulina: Please like don't don't make that assumption. They always make the assumption, you know, that's like I look how I look and they're like and they're like, okay, we need to speak to her in English. And they always try to send a person, you know, you can see them like having a little conversation on the court in there and they're like, you go, you go. And I'm like, come on, and like Carson: Ha ha. Yeah. So true though. That's so true. Cause yeah, in our ⁓ Girilandia where the tourists go, all the people from the UK come and visit. They're they're just standing there. They're like the girls in Bangkok trying to push you into the restaurant. They're like, ⁓ hey, you want a beer? We have the match on you like and then Maria's like, Just just speak Spanish, just say No no no gratia, no gratitude, yao comigo And they're like, ⁓ you speak Spanish, ⁓ I'm like, fuck you I'm the fuck outta here, man. Get of my face Brandon: yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Brandon: So not my client. Carson: I don't play that sh Paulina: They're always so surprised. Makes me it makes me laugh a little bit, you know? Carson: It's a phenomenon. It is funny. It is funny. Yeah, they're not expecting it. They're like, Yep, married a Spaniard, here now. Brandon: That's the thing, there's so many people, especially in in the area where we live. A lot of English people have been here for twenty years and still don't speak any hi any Spanish. Carson: Spy mode. Poof, yeah. Paulina: They say hola ⁓ Brandon: So yeah. So people are used to that. Carson: Not not the experience I recommend for anybody. I think that's just not really you're not maximizing the experience. You're not really taking full advantage of getting to know the culture and the people and connecting and and learn learning about how they think, learning the way they think, way they interact, you know. There's there's a beauty. There's a beauty in that. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: That's the thing, that's that's what we're looking for. That's what we came here for, or part of the experience of being here. Other people come because ⁓ it's sunny, three hundred days of the year and that's it. That's all they care about. It's like, no, that's that's all I need. I don't I don't need to speak the language. So Carson: Definitely. Yeah, that's true. Paulina: Give it. Carson: Sure. Yeah. Simple you know, different strokes for different folks. So what are you gonna do? Paulina: For sure. ⁓ and what what is one thing that you guys can't still get used to? That you know, you guys have been living here in Spain for quite some time, but there must be something that still like bothers you. Yeah, tell me. Go ahead. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: I've got a silly one. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Carson: Brandon, you go first. Brandon: Go ahead, Kurt. No, no, go go ahead go ahead. I need to think about this for a sec. Carson: Well, this is a silly one. This is not the only one I can think of, but it's something that hit me even today. Now, I don't know if I broke a mirror on accident or something. Like I don't know if I'm getting seven years of bad luck. I don't know what the fuck happened. But since moving to Spain, I have stepped in dog shit and gum. Brandon: That was gonna be mine. Carson: ⁓ okay, so this is a thing. This is a this is a cultural thing. Okay, what the fuck? Dude, if I don't if I decide not to look down while I'm walking anywhere, it seems like anywhere. It could be a parking lot. It could be a path, like a pristine looking path, it could be a sidewalk where you wouldn't expect like I should never step in this on a sidewalk where people walk all the time. But yeah. Brandon: Yes. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Every single day. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Not every day, but yeah. I mean where we where people walk every day exactly. But like it's not every day that I step in some shit or some gum. Paulina: Yeah, no. Brandon: Right. Carson: But bro, if I go a month or two months without stepping in it, it's like, hey, Guardian Angel, we're doing it. We're we're making progress. Cause even today, walking to the gym, parked, walked on the sidewalk all the way up to the gym, not even a hundred meters. For you Americans, that's about, I don't know, 120, 130 yards, give or take. It's not very fucking far. Gum. Boom. Gum. And you know what's worse? Paulina: Hallelujah. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Carson: You know what, y maybe contrary to popular belief, I think stepping in shit is better than stepping in gum. You can clean it easier. Brandon: The the gum the gum is rough. Like it's there for a good week. Paulina: They got this. Carson: Bro, okay. I I got a visual I got a visual. Alright. This is this is this is gum. I don't know if you could see that. It's still there. It's like two weeks old. I'm not getting it out. It's just forget about dirt. It's in there. It's Paulina: ⁓ man. Close your eyes if you're sensitive. Brandon: Yeah. It's the Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Is there Paulina: And this is also shows how how big Carzan's foot is. Wondering what's a forty six. Carson: Yeah, that's that's a whooah. So now I got gym shoes, they got those sandals, the flippity flops, I got flip flops, permanent gum stain, and then the the gym shoe's gonna be permanent gum stain and then it's just not worth cleaning. I'm gonna be scraping that for like an hour. For what? Just to step in it again. Brandon: Yeah, flip flap. And you j and you're just gonna make a mess, it's g it's gonna be everywhere. It's not worth it. Paulina: Okay. Carson: So I'm like scraping it with a rock outside the gym, sitting down there with a rock. I've actually it was like somebody broke a a mug or something, so I got this porcelain and I'm just like scraping it. I'm like, this is my life now. This is I spend more time on this than I do. Paulina: Fucking Flintstones. In the gym. Carson: Okay, so Brandon, I stole yours, and I made a scene. Sorry everybody to try to be dramatic, but Spanish people. Public service announcement. Pick up your dog shit or don't own a pet. And ⁓ if you're gonna spit out your gum, spit it out in the trash or at least throw it somewhere where people aren't walking. Okay. ⁓ Brandon: But it Paulina: No, it's true. Brandon: Exactly. Exactly. Where you don't want Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: It drives me crazy. It's like you have to develop like a sixth sense like when you're walking like to maneuver around everything that you could possibly step on and it's just I don't know, people don't think. Paulina: Mm. Brandon: I don't know. Did I say? Miss Paulina. No no that was it. That was like the like I I I did think for a second and then it hit me like after I said alright, give me a second, I was like, No, it's definitely it's the dogs, man. It's like the it's it's not it's not the dog's fault, it's the owners. I mean, Carson, you have a dog so like you know like you don't you're not taking T Goku Carson: Lose my fucking mind, man. Paulina: True. Any other ones? Any other ones? Brandon? Maybe. That was it. That was the only one. Carson: Nah, I stole it. Paulina: Mm-hmm. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah, I know. Can't control where they should, but Carson: But the other the last thing I'll say is that also people, at least where I live, they just open the door and let the dogs run out. And I'm telling you, the street I have here is like a highway. People go like they fly down the street. It's like they don't care if their dog gets hit. They're definitely not caring about picking up their dog's shit. And it's it's quite common. I've walked around the neighborhood, I walk every day. I walk around and like some I sa one day it's this dog. It's like where's the owner? Nowhere to be found. I've seen people literally open the door and let the dog run out and like, ⁓ my god, that dog could get hit so easily. Paulina: That's one of them. Yeah, I was thinking about that because I like I have two cats and here people think it's normal just to let their cats roam around freely, come back pregnant, whatever. Like and I'm like, bro, like it's like you just walk around, you see cats and then they're looking for them and I'm like Like, are are you stupid? Like if you leave the doors open, like obviously your cat is just not it's a cat. You know? Carson: Cats. Cats of Spain, yeah. Cats are wild, yeah. You can't can't tame cats. Paulina: So that's one of them. The other thing is how slow people walk. I guess so frustrated because there's just so many slow walkers here. And like especially here near the beach, like you know, everyone wants to enjoy the beach. I I get it. But like if you go into c even city center, whether it's Cartagena or Murcia or whatever, and you still get people just, you know. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Mm-hmm. Paulina: I d I don't know what they're doing. I'm like, move, like, move, bitch, get out the way, type of shit, you know? It's like Yeah, I know, but Carson: Sure. Brandon: Yeah. But but you're Y you are from New York though, so But no, it's definitely the same. 'Cause I are like or like when you're walking and like someone's coming towards you, like you're I'm on my side and it's like two people, it's like, well one of you all have to get in a line and get behind the other person so that we can go across. And no, they just keep walking, it's like like you Carson: New York, yeah, yeah, they move it. Yeah. Walk with a purpose, damn it. Paulina: But still. Carson: It's true, it's true, it's true. Paulina: Right. Carson: ⁓ yeah, Dick. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brandon: We're gonna run in each other? You wanna do that? Alright, well let's go. No no, I don't move no Carson: It's true. There there is a mm Paulina: At this point I I try not to move. I'm like, you know what, like like if you're gonna like it's you that needs to like separate like there's two of you, like there's two people or three and I'm like you can move. That's it. Carson: Yeah. There's a walking etiquette. Yeah. Y'all are y'all are on the money. Walking etiquette and then also just sometimes a personal space thing too. People are more comfortable getting closer here than in the US for sure. When you're whether you're in line, you're at a bar, anywhere, really. It's it's it's quite like it took me some time 'cause I am not like I'm never I've never been like that. Like do not get that close to me, please. Brandon: Stand my ground. Carson: Yeah. are y'all are on money. Walking etiquette and then also just sometimes a personal space thing too. ⁓ People are more comfortable getting closer than in the US for sure. ⁓ When you're whether you're in line, at a bar, anywhere, really. It's it's it's quite like it took me some time 'cause I am not ⁓ like I'm never I've never been that. Like do not get that close to me, please. Brandon: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Brandon: No, a lot. No, a lot. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Carson: ⁓ Paulina: With close friends, fine. I I I don't mind, like, you know, I like being with my friends and family, but I don't know you and like mm, I don't know. It's there is a lot of very touchy, feely and I don't know, like we it's the first time we're going out for a beer and you're putting your arms around me and a mm Carson: Yeah, the strangers. Brandon: Back by one. I just I just thought another one since Carson kinda had my first one and then Paulina I hitch alone in yours also. ⁓ the fact that when you go into a place like any any type of shop or anything and there's no line, so you just have to ask who's the last person. It's like no, just just form a line. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Is that Carson: Okay. Paulina: Mm-hmm. Carson: It's true. It's true. It's true. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Have that order, get in the line and that's it. No, you have to come in and ask who's it's like why? Paulina: Yeah. I had to do that in the in the Registra Sevilla like in the town hall recently. And I'm like, Who's the last person? And they're like me and I'm like, ⁓ okay. Brandon: Okay, so now you're it's like tag, you're it's Exactly. It's like sh just get into a line a line. It's simple. It works. It's proven. Paulina: Now it's me. Now I have to say to somebody else that I'm the last person. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: It's true, it's true. Yeah. Carson: All these things though, I'd still rather be here. I love my country. I love the United States. I c I could live there again. I would love to see some things change. There's a lot we didn't we didn't touch on in this episode, but I'm sure we'll revisit it. Brandon: ⁓ without a doubt. Carson: But living in Spain is is wonderful. I recommend it to anybody who gets a chance. And I think the biggest takeaway for the listeners would be to get out and try something new and expand your mind, your cultural mindset, ⁓ your willingness to try new things that are uncomfortable. just put yourself out there because you never know. Never know how it's gonna affect you, how it's gonna change you, make you better, make you see things differently. So Brandon: Definitely. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Yeah. So y'all have anything else you want to add? Brandon: All right. I have a last question that kinda goes along with everything that you just said. Well no. It goes along with a bit. But what do you think? for you also a little bit different, I'll go last, but do you consider Spain home? Paulina: And on that note. Carson: Do it. Yes. Spain is home. The US is my home. Paulina: Right. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Although Spain feels more like home, so when I go there I feel a little bit like a bit I I don't know, I it's not a constant feeling of of either being a foreigner or being at home in the United States. But at some point I do miss Spain and I do look forward to coming back. And it's not like I'm trying to rush my trip there, but I start realizing that man, I do really love being in Spain. I really do love not only is my wife there, but I just Paulina: Like Carson: start the other things just start popping up, you know? And then you don't really f always feel connected to the latest I don't know, it could just be the slang people are using, it could just be the things people are talking about or just that you've been away for so long, you know. You you feel at home when you're back home. But then I don't know. It's it's a strange it's hard to put into words, but I I consider Spain to be my home. Yeah, absolutely. Paulina: Yeah. a difficult one. I have three places technically that I could call home and it's very difficult for me to say which one I feel like that is my home because in Poland yes I have my family. I was born there but I don't feel that connection. I don't really have many friends there that well I have friends from university but Brandon: Sure. Paulina: I only really spent there like four years of my adult life. That's nothing. In the spectrum of like of all the adulthood, that's nothing. So it's difficult for me to really say that Poland is my home, although I was born there. Because every time I'm in Poland, I also feel like I miss Spain, but I also miss the States. So Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: I miss Spain for the reasons that you know I have my I live here, you know, I have I'm working here, my partner is here, like my cats are here. Like I started like a whole new life here. Like I settled down here, you know, but a part of me also really misses the States. That's where like majority of my life I spend there. All of my like closest friends, like my best friends from childhood, are there. So all the different memories and going out and partying, whatever, that's connected to that. So for me, all my different stages of life are in three different places. So for me to sit down here and say that Spain is my home, I would be lying to myself and I would be lying to you guys. To a certain extent, yes, it is, but it's on the same level of home as United States or Poland to a certain extent. Brandon: Alright. Paulina: I don't feel like I have a home anywhere, really. It's it sounds sad maybe, but Carson: It's I I I hear what ch I hear what you're saying. And that's Brandon: You're nomad. Carson: That's kind of how I feel. I do feel like since I've been in Spain, the longer I've been in Spain, the more it does feel like my main home. To where the US feels less like home. Spain feels more like home. If I had to quantify it. But then the feeling of home, homesickness, that that things you miss, those memories you have. Like I was in Atlanta recently. Yeah, like just for me, as soon as I got out of the airport and I could smell the air. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Nostalgia, yeah. Exactly. Carson: It's just the smell of it. I was like, I was back. It's like I traveled back in time, you know? And there's ⁓ yeah. That's right. Yeah, there's a pizza place in Atlanta that I love. And we went there and it was like, ⁓ this is better than I remember. Like, how can it be better? Paulina: Yeah. ⁓ Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Just childhood. Yeah. Yeah. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Carson: So those those feelings, I don't know, they're amplified, I guess, with the distance, with the time, and you go back and you're like, ⁓ my gosh, this like this is definitely a part of me and I and I'll always carry it with me. And I'm just fortunate that I get to go back and experience it again and again and again. Well, not every every year, but every so often. And so Yeah, Brandon, how do you perceive this? Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. Brandon: Yeah, no, I was just gonna say that that for me, like obviously Tennessee is home. Like Tennessee is it molded me into what I am, especially Knoxville eight six five, that's home. But but no home I think is definitely here. Like I find myself when we're when we go back to the US and like you're traveling around or you're just talking 'cause people in the south they always ask you questions and you have those conversations. And people are like, Where are you from? Paulina: Okay. Carson: Shut up. Hmm. Brandon: And like my automatic response is I don't know if you hear that extremely loud motorcycle going by, but but ⁓ people ask like where you from and like my my immediate response is like, ⁓ from Spain and then I have to think it's like like well all right, no, I'm not from Spa Like I'm from Knoxville, but I live in Spain and then I have to go into this whole conversation or whole explanation of like what my situation is, but it's like when I'm there, like it's like I think no Spain is home, like Murcia's home. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: Yep. Brandon: Even though like I'm from actually where I grew up and everything. And so it's it's a strange feeling. And also I said like I imagine you always say that the US is still maybe home, but you you both surprised me. But the fact that I'm coming up on almost living in Spain as many years as I've lived in in the US, so now it's it's definitely even more like Spain is Spain is home more than the US of A. Carson: Wow. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Crazy. Yeah, I get that. Paulina: Yeah, but that's the thing. That's the thing that you're sort sort of like split down the middle almost now for me. It's been I don't know, I lived my first nine years of of my life in Poland, then the rest of my life until I was like twenty two in the States, then I moved back to Poland for what like three to four years, which is nothing. And now I've been living here for like six years and it's like almost Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: my amount of time that I've been living in Spain is coming close to how much time I've lived in Poland. Right? So it's sort of like Ma and my connection to Poland, like I love the culture, I love the food, I love the the music, whatever, but a part of me doesn't feel like I belong because every time I go there I do feel like I'm other. Like people notice it. People notice it in your behavior, in in your accent, in the vocabulary that you use, that whatever. Carson: Sure. I've gotten that even in the US, what you're saying, yeah. That even happened to me a couple of times, yeah. Yeah. Gestures and things. Paulina: Yeah, like the etiquettes, whatever, and it's it's like hm something is is off here, you know? So h how can that really feel also like home when you don't sort of belong to a certain extent? Carson: Yeah. That's true. Paulina: We're getting we we're getting real deep over here. Carson: Getting deep. Yeah. I I think I I passed the threshold after year four or year five of being away. The first three years definitely it was like, please take me home, you know, almost ⁓ to s ⁓ at times 'cause 'cause it was so hard adapting. But yeah, after after four or five years it was it was like I would be away from Spain and be like, I wanna go home. I'm ready to go home and that meant Spain was home. So good question, Brendan. Yeah. So it's a it's a s it's a feeling. It's a it's a feeling that it's hard to articulate. Yeah. And it changes. It does change. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: It Yeah. It's a strange feeling. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Definitely. Paulina: Quirks. Carson: ever changing. So I think Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: Okay. Brandon: For yeah. Right? Carson: We'll end it there. People, we do have social media. We ⁓ we are on YouTube, we're on Instagram, we're on Spotify, we're on Apple Podcast. So please, whichever platform you subscribe to or you use the most, leave us a comment, share your thoughts. If you have suggestions, we're open to hear them, ⁓ entertain them, and most importantly, we want to hear from you. So, ⁓ thanks for watching and we will catch you on the next one. Paulina: We're everywhere, huh? Brandon: We're everywhere. Paulina: Exactly. Bye. Carson: Appreciate it. Peace out. Brandon: Bye bye.