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EYL #236 Blxst on Independence, Partnering with Red Bull Records, Blockchain's Impact on Music, & Publishing · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 8: See it there feeding you know, the machine like machine
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  Speaker 8: learning technology, feeding it songs from Eminem Travis Guy and
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  Speaker 8: then it producing a sound, an original song that is
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  Speaker 8: based off that word poses so many legal issues.
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  Speaker 5: It was a producer.
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  Speaker 4: They were like, yo, let's put Timberland for real, and
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  Speaker 4: Or I can take Blast's voice and I could be
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  Speaker 4: the person singing it and it's his voice.
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  Speaker 5: Fit on my bike.
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  Speaker 6: As an artist, how you cause that's kind of scary. Like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, art is its supposed to be curated by
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  Speaker 6: you know, it's a lot. How do you feel about
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  Speaker 6: a machine just making art?
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  Speaker 5: All right, guys, welcome back.
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  Speaker 6: This is our second home, which is quickly becoming off
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  Speaker 6: first home all the time now. And we got a
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  Speaker 6: special special episode. So by now this show that we
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  Speaker 6: have done will already have happened, so you would have
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  Speaker 6: known that we had a special performance from one of
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  Speaker 6: my favorite artists, Blast performance.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, appreciate that.
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  Speaker 6: But it all stemmed from what was that party? Where
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  Speaker 6: do we first? Initially it was at a I met, Damn,
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  Speaker 6: it was a party. It was outside Amazon, the Amazon.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So so you might be familiar with Blasts music. I'm
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  Speaker 6: pretty sure you are, but a lot of times we
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  Speaker 6: don't know the business behind it. So his partners in
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  Speaker 6: the label Victor and Call, they have a label, a
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  Speaker 6: label Eagle, and it's interesting because it's independent label. So
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  Speaker 6: for Earn your Leisia obviously business platforms. So we're going
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  Speaker 6: to talk about the publishing. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 6: trial and stipulations of running the label partnerships LA and Newark.
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  Speaker 5: We got both sides working here. We can't forget venture.
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  Speaker 6: Capital a bunch of stuff and feel like it's a
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  Speaker 6: dope conversation that happen, especially at this time. So I
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  Speaker 6: wanted to thank you guys for joining us. Appreciate it,
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  Speaker 6: Thank you very much for having us. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 6: use your lyrics for my captions a lot.
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  Speaker 5: I love it.
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  Speaker 6: My favorite one is on if you're a big step
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  Speaker 6: of don trip over small ship. That got a lot
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  Speaker 6: of traction when I pulled it, like, no, that's genius.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like from yeah, yeah, noah.
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  Speaker 6: So I appreciate that you ghost ghost written a lot
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  Speaker 6: of captions for me.
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  Speaker 4: And congrats, congrats just for clarity too out right now officially,
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  Speaker 4: l you know what I'm saying that that's it. That's
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  Speaker 4: a good one, A nice little something to keep the
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  Speaker 4: taste buzz.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the appetizer.
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  Speaker 6: Advertiser to the mill. So all right, let's start. So,
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  Speaker 6: all right, where do you guys meet at Because you
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  Speaker 6: guys are from South Central, you're from Newark, but none
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  Speaker 6: of you knew each other, right, So where do you
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  Speaker 6: meet and where does the idea come to actually start
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  Speaker 6: working together.
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  Speaker 11: I initially met Vic just renting down a studio in
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  Speaker 11: Cuover City. It was a studio that he was running
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  Speaker 11: and I would just go there, you know, just trying
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  Speaker 11: to take time away from being at home with my
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  Speaker 11: son and stuff. So I found a spot and uh,
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  Speaker 11: it was just like like we're your team at because
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  Speaker 11: he seen me doing everything producing, recording myself, and he
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  Speaker 11: was like, now we got to put something plays together.
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  Speaker 11: So we came up with this thing called a calendar,
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  Speaker 11: a content calendar, which we'll we'll pick each date and
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  Speaker 11: pick something the posts and just gaze the results from there.
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  Speaker 11: Then Carl, he had reached out from Instagram.
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  Speaker 8: This was a minute ago to a lot of the
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  Speaker 8: DM early.
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  Speaker 11: So what was crazy is vic mom and my mom
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  Speaker 11: stayed around the corner from each other and we didn't
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  Speaker 11: even know each other growing up.
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  Speaker 5: Oh so y'all grew up next to each other, but
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  Speaker 5: you don't know each.
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  Speaker 6: Other, right, yeah, okay, so all right, y'all, So y'all
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  Speaker 6: build it.
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  Speaker 5: When does the label start?
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  Speaker 11: Labels started twenty seventeen. This was around the time I
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  Speaker 11: had my son, and Uh, Initially it was just something
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  Speaker 11: for me to represent myself because I always looked at
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  Speaker 11: it like it's better when a company represents you versus
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  Speaker 11: you represent yourself. And I feel like Carl pretty much
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  Speaker 11: made it make sense for me. Vickers, well, that was
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  Speaker 11: just the initial beginning of everything as far as ego.
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  Speaker 4: But you was doing music prior to that, right before
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  Speaker 4: you had the actual label. You was putting out music
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  Speaker 4: just by yourself. Now, I was actually part of a
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  Speaker 4: collective before I wanted to know. It's like, what was
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  Speaker 4: the letter C I t I you and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 5: You in it.
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  Speaker 4: I was about to say I see you, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: it ain't that.
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  Speaker 3: It's dangerous.
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  Speaker 6: That's another collective. So all right, so you you. So
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  Speaker 6: that's interesting. I remember I said that like when an
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  Speaker 6: author like putting a book out, it's always better to
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  Speaker 6: seem like you. You you have a publishing company as
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  Speaker 6: opposed to being an independent author. So he created a
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  Speaker 6: publishing company because it just looks better to have like
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  Speaker 6: one break publishing produce this book as opposed to just
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  Speaker 6: ashcatch just the author. So the label that's kind of
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  Speaker 6: that similar to that. So when you start the label.
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  Speaker 6: It's still with the purpose of you just being the
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  Speaker 6: solo artist on the label, but it looks better if
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  Speaker 6: it's a label as opposed to you just hustling as
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  Speaker 6: an independent artist.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, of course, we had goals to make it
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  Speaker 11: bigger eventually anyway, so we had to start somewhere, and
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  Speaker 11: I feel like it was perfect to start the foundation
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  Speaker 11: with myself of course.
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  Speaker 5: So what's each one of you guys responsibility in the label?
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  Speaker 12: So, I mean, I'm the president of the label, and
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  Speaker 12: I'm also a Blast manager too though, Yeah, we're both
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  Speaker 12: those hats.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm a I'm the CEO co founder too, but
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  Speaker 8: I'm also also Blast attorney.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, man International. Yeah, we'll get that.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: So you're managing that first, right, So where did you
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  Speaker 4: get the background and that or is that something that
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  Speaker 4: you saw the talent and you said, all right, let
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  Speaker 4: me see where I can help, Well, like, did you
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  Speaker 4: have experience?
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  Speaker 5: Probably? I mean nah, I really I never wanted to
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  Speaker 5: work in music ever.
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  Speaker 12: That wasn't really my that wasn't really my goal when
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  Speaker 12: I was in college, played football in college. So I
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  Speaker 12: went to University of Washington, went to graduate school in
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  Speaker 12: southern Illinois. So when I moved home, I was working
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  Speaker 12: for Bennie Boone and I was doing like all their
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  Speaker 12: product merchandising. I started working with Dame Dash a little bit,
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  Speaker 12: so like I was really more so in the content
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  Speaker 12: distribution world, in the product distribution world. And from there
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  Speaker 12: it's really just like the skills I took from playing football,
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  Speaker 12: I was already running my own company making merchandise, throwing events,
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  Speaker 12: so just taking it intangible from those, I was like, shit,
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  Speaker 12: you already a one man show. I could really just
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  Speaker 12: plug in these different outlets around Joe Prix, just some talent,
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  Speaker 12: and then we can try to go to the moon
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  Speaker 12: with it.
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  Speaker 5: So really that's where all conjured up from.
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  Speaker 6: So all right, so when does this really start to
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  Speaker 6: take off? Because I think I got turned on to
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  Speaker 6: your music, like probably like eighteen months ago. I thought like,
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  Speaker 6: that's when like the wave really started to hit, at
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  Speaker 6: least on the East Coach. I'm not sure you probably
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  Speaker 6: had a buzz out here already, But when does this
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  Speaker 6: go from Okay, this is becoming a mainstream situation.
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  Speaker 11: I would say when we did the partnership with Red Bull,
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  Speaker 11: I mean, I definitely had a buzz dropping music with
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  Speaker 11: Being Overdult.
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  Speaker 5: Which is from La as well.
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  Speaker 11: We got this project called the Sixth Tape, and I
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  Speaker 11: felt like No Love Lost was my follow up solo project,
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  Speaker 11: and I feel like that that made the noise, that's
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  Speaker 11: what had chosen. Yeah, and went double platinum straight out
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  Speaker 11: the gate, and was that twenty twenty yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Six Yeah, And we knew Bino from being with it,
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  Speaker 4: so I was like, familiar did the tape with it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah? That that was the Stuck in the Grind?
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  Speaker 5: I remember he's on all over that Stuck in the
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  Speaker 5: Grind LP. That was That's dope.
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  Speaker 4: So the Red Bull situation is interesting, right because and Carl,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure you had your hands all over the so
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  Speaker 4: red build. It was obviously we know it as a
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  Speaker 4: as a drink, right, but we didn't know that they
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  Speaker 4: were making actual artists. So how did you approach them
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  Speaker 4: and make this deal happen? Because this is the first
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  Speaker 4: this is the first tape that y'all put out, right
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  Speaker 4: for sure?
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  Speaker 8: I mean I always talked to the VIC about it.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, like you know, everybody industry was like, you know,
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  Speaker 8: what label are you picking?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 8: It was a conversation like, who what label you going to?
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  Speaker 8: But you know, I think RedBull offered something that the
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  Speaker 8: labels couldn't, which is like, you know, that can's in
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  Speaker 8: every single place across the globe, Like and not only
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  Speaker 8: do they have the can, but they have f one.
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  Speaker 8: Not only do that f one, they got you know,
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  Speaker 8: the cultural teams in every little city. So it just
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  Speaker 8: it just made sense. We were like, you know what,
• 10:40
  Speaker 8: what don't we have? Don't we have access to? And
• 10:44
  Speaker 8: they and they just had it. So they came to us.
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  Speaker 8: They have a record, they have a record side. Most
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  Speaker 8: people don't know that Red Bulls as a record label
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  Speaker 8: and are kind of contacted us and it just went
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  Speaker 8: from there.
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  Speaker 6: So what exactly was the partnership with Red Bull? Were
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  Speaker 6: they like fifty fifty partners in the distribution of the music?
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's like it's like a label deal.
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  Speaker 8: It's like it's like a partnership. Definitely more that I
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  Speaker 8: would say, definitely more of a partnership. And then you
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  Speaker 8: know they gave us, you know, overhead to to sort
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  Speaker 8: of build our company out and you know, we're still
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  Speaker 8: in business today. We're signing artists with them. You know,
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  Speaker 8: we got an office at Red Bull. So it's cool.
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  Speaker 8: It's a really really cool partnership for sure.
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  Speaker 6: So what makes you want to all right, but what
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  Speaker 6: makes you want to choose Red Bull over because I'm
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  Speaker 6: assuming that you had a lot of labels that will
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  Speaker 6: offer you situations because it's still not Red Bull is
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  Speaker 6: still not a music company. So even though if they
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  Speaker 6: have a lot of distribution and they have a lot
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  Speaker 6: of big name most people would have just went with
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  Speaker 6: a music company because that's what they specialized in. So
• 11:45
  Speaker 6: what made you want to choose a product and a
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  Speaker 6: liquid product company as opposed to a music distribution company.
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  Speaker 8: I think we were kind of like we we we
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  Speaker 8: are the culture, like we are the music. We are
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  Speaker 8: the you know, all of us, like all of us together,
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  Speaker 8: we feel like in our respective cities, you know, we
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  Speaker 8: just we've been doing this for a long time and
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  Speaker 8: last music is incredible. You know, his ear, his uh,
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  Speaker 8: you know, his taste, everything about it. So we were like,
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  Speaker 8: the music's fine. The culture like, you know, we don't
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  Speaker 8: need nobody to help us build culture in work community,
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  Speaker 8: Like no label can teach us how to do that.
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  Speaker 8: So we just wanted to partner that could that that
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  Speaker 8: could you know, give us stuff that that we didn't
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  Speaker 8: have access to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's the I'm just envisioned this now.
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  Speaker 4: And from just the standpoint of like as you're looking
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  Speaker 4: on the global scale, is the music showing up everywhere
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  Speaker 4: that Red Bull shows up? And so we know that
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  Speaker 4: big and like MLS and we know that big internationally.
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  Speaker 4: Are you thinking that from a start? And did that
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  Speaker 4: take convincing right? Like, Hey, I got this opportunity. Is
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  Speaker 4: everybody on board, like, yeah, okay, we'll do this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 12: I think it was up in the air fresh for me.
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  Speaker 12: So I wrote my dissertation on Red Bull in grad school.
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  Speaker 12: Oh so I kind of already knew like the different avenues.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, we joke all the time, but like my
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  Speaker 12: favorite term is rdical integration.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I wrote my paper on.
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  Speaker 12: So that's how you even understood the fact of I mean,
• 13:04
  Speaker 12: everybody know the music world, they really make their money
• 13:06
  Speaker 12: off all their recoupable expenses that they dish out. So
• 13:10
  Speaker 12: you know, you start looking at Rebel and looking at
• 13:12
  Speaker 12: their different mediums. A lot of that stuff is non
• 13:14
  Speaker 12: recoupable costs when you start doing business with the outside entities.
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  Speaker 12: So where it is, I know we're going to talk
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  Speaker 12: about the venture stuff later, but where it is like
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  Speaker 12: an artists who have to go back take that first
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  Speaker 12: limp sum of money and buy their masters back. In
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  Speaker 12: this situation, we was able to procure business terms to
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  Speaker 12: where we didn't even have to go through that first step.
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  Speaker 12: We automatically obtained all that from the jump, and then
• 13:36
  Speaker 12: we're going in and really invest right away rather than
• 13:38
  Speaker 12: being like, all right, I got to really play this
• 13:41
  Speaker 12: long game, go to these major labels, kiss they ass
• 13:43
  Speaker 12: try to get my shit back, buy it overpriced, and
• 13:46
  Speaker 12: then now when I'm like thirty five forty, I can
• 13:48
  Speaker 12: start getting really into this investment. So it's like, nah,
• 13:51
  Speaker 12: we wanted to do that now. And I think the
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  Speaker 12: biggest thing is business is problem solving. So at the
• 13:56
  Speaker 12: end of the day, Red Bull needed a problem to
• 13:59
  Speaker 12: be solved, which was they never really had a real
• 14:02
  Speaker 12: prominent hip hop act in Los Angeles where their office is,
• 14:05
  Speaker 12: and that's really being from Los Angeles solved that problem
• 14:07
  Speaker 12: for him. So it's like I always say, it's like
• 14:10
  Speaker 12: the cool kids on the side with the nerves, like
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  Speaker 12: it's cool. Like we went and got the answer, yeah, respectfully.
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  Speaker 5: Out after red.
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  Speaker 6: So all right, you said something integrated vertically and shout
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  Speaker 6: out to rest in peace.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: That was one of my favorite lines that he used,
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  Speaker 6: as well as integrated vertically your niggas blew it and
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  Speaker 6: we talked about that like with Apple, right, that's probably
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  Speaker 6: I think Apple has done the best job of being
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  Speaker 6: in vertically integrated. So obviously that's something that you guys,
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: you know, practice, So how does that look in your
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  Speaker 6: business model?
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  Speaker 12: I mean, man, I think everything starts with just how
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  Speaker 12: we operate from the jump. I mean, we have eleven
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  Speaker 12: employees right now, everybody like on payroll. We got another
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  Speaker 12: x amount of contractors as well, so everything from the
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  Speaker 12: start and the epicenter is really controlled by us as
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  Speaker 12: far as how things are distributed, how they look the
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  Speaker 12: feel of it all. But I think that's a direct
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  Speaker 12: reflection the Blast too though, because when I first met him,
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  Speaker 12: like he said, he was doing a graphic design, editing
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  Speaker 12: the videos, mixing the music record itself.
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  Speaker 5: So I couldn't believe.
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  Speaker 12: I'm like, bro, you were in the studio spending your money,
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  Speaker 12: Like how are you being productive in here? Until I
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  Speaker 12: actually went in there and he was like, yeah, I
• 15:24
  Speaker 12: do all this, this, this, this and this, So I
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  Speaker 12: couldn't see how the business model couldn't reflect what Blast
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  Speaker 12: is doing.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I got your masters obviously the publishing
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  Speaker 4: as well, right, and then you did something unique You
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: started not only just having writers, but started signing writers.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: So like the business plan going into it, like, who's
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: coming up with that?
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: Right? Is that? Like the vision from the beginning.
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: I think so, I think the vision was kind of
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: how do we I think this is just like it's
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: an idea company. It's like, how can we do stuff?
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: We're cool, We're cool company because the music is just
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: like is one vehicle, It's one aspect of it, and
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: that's how we always viewed it. So, but you got
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: to be really good at music and talking about vertical
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: integration is like how do we own that process? So
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: at Black, you know, it becomes it makes less sense
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: for Blasts to write the songs, produce all the music
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: just from a time standpoint, Why would you? Why would
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: you do that? You know, you guys, you guys build
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: a you know, built the amazing business for yourself. You're
• 16:28
  Speaker 8: like cool, you know, now let's get some help, like
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: let's let's make sure everything's set up. So I think
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: we were like, cool, how do we how do we
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: put out more product more efficiently and grow our company?
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: And you know it was signing more artists, signing more songwriter,
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: signing more producers, and like Vic said, it just owning
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: the process.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: So but you had your an entertainment attorney, correct, right.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: So as you're building this, are you still practicing in
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: your own like the Folks Firm is a real thing, Yeah,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: So how are you managing both? Uh?
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: Man, It's funny. I got a lot of clients, like
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: I wrap a lot of artists, producers, creative companies, businesses.
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: But I'm not I'm not a traditional attorney, like I
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: think for me, I always saw law as a way
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: to like get into conversations that I probably wouldn't be
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: privy to understand the business from a high level. As
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: a lawyer, you see every contract, you see all the
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: back end of every business, Like you know, I know
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: what's going on at you know this label, I know
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: what's going on at that company. So I feel like
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: inside the trader and I'm just bringing it back to
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: the home team. That's how I feel.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: I mean it's interesting because to lawyer, like you said,
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: to run a label. You have a competitive advantage being
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: a lawyer, because now it's like that's the number one thing,
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: Like a lawyer screwed me. I didn't know the business.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: I can't say that if you're a lawyer, no fight
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: of playing with yourself.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: We always talk about it too. It's like, you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: I'm also a professor at Drexel, so I teach music business.
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: So our first combos are like, you know, vic to say,
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: he's like, you know, he's a business guy, not really
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: a music guy. Like he's like, yo, I do business
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: and you know, blast and artist. So obviously he knew
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: he knew a lot about the business. But you know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: our first year or two, you know, I was just
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: having we were just having master classes in the back yard.
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: Here's publishing, Like, here's how you collect all the royalties,
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: you know, here's how you distribute music all over And
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: you know we're doing the same education for all our employees.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: So that that that's a big thing, right, So collecting publishing.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: We always talk about publishing, but people don't talk about
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: how people get the money from it a lot. So
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: I know, like Askap is involved in that, So can
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: you break that down how people artists collect money from
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: the obviously the IP.
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, publishing is just a collection sport. It's like really
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: just collection. You think about publishing is just collection. So
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: you put the music out and then you collect your royalties.
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: And on the pub side, you know, you think about streaming,
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: there's a there's a publishing royalty that's generated every time
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: a song is streamed. Every single time you push play,
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: there's a publishing royalty generate. Every time songs played on
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: the radio, there's a publishing royalty generated. Then there's a
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: public performance, so every time a song is played in stadiums, hotels,
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: they should be licensing that music. So that's you realize
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: when you realize like where you're getting your publishing royalties.
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: You know, you could sort of create sounds and music
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: that that sort of appeals to those places, but but
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: that's really just that's publishing. It's just a collection sport.
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: And you know, I think most people think about publishing
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: from like a US standpoint, but it's really an international
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: game too. Like you know, they're playing your song in
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: South Korea, they're playing your song in Japan, they're playing
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: your song in China. You know, what's the collection side
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: over there? Like how do you collect your royalties and
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: all these foreign territories, so you need to I'm been
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: partner and I think we were, Like Warren has been
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: a great partner for a shout there, like Ryan Press, Wiless,
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: those guys.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: So Ryan Leslie was talking about that with us, with
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: the international play, with the publishing and all that. So
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: for musical our so whole blast. You write music and
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: you sing right. So from my understanding, correct me if
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: I'm wrong, publishing goes to the the songwriter, producer. Fifty
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: percent goes to artists.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Is that correct? Man?
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Not?
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: The fact that you know as much about publishing is
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: kind of crazy.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Think it too a few conversations.
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: Fifty percent goes to the songwriter, fifty percent goes to producer.
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: So like, if you're an artist who is putting out music,
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: you might not necessarily have any publishing if you didn't
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: write the song, you didnt produce, right, this is a
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: guy who writes and produces. So that's that's like a
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: published publisher's eyes. That's like the greatest person you ever see.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: He's smiling within you'.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: Let's talk about it, thank you, Let's talk about the music.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: How did you? Yeah, you do everything right, So you
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: said that like from the producer from the singing to
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: the did you are you trained like that or you
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: just taught yourself.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I just taught myself.
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: I think just being bored because this was around of
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: time like when I got into music, I had moved
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: to the Ie, which is like an hour outside of
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: LA so I was at home a lot, Like I
• 21:00
  Speaker 11: wasn't really outside like that. I was just being a
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: nerd on YouTube, trying to figure out how to do everything,
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: and I just fell in love with the process over overall.
• 21:10
  Speaker 11: Like it didn't feel like I was working or learning.
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: It just felt like I was in the moment, you know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: So it kind of came natural to me to want
• 21:18
  Speaker 11: to produce and want to write and seeing people like
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: Ryan Leslie, seeing people like for real Kanye in the
• 21:24
  Speaker 11: studio jumping from the from the keyboard to jumping in
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: the booth, it was just like, I gotta be that
• 21:30
  Speaker 11: type of artist, hip boy from a Yeah, you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 11: I didn't know I'm coming up now, but I just
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: find tanned for sure.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: It's crazy when I saw you on the Freshman cover, right,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: but I'm thinking, do you I mean you make music?
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's hip hop over, it's R
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: and B. It just feels like authentic music to a region.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Like when I hear your songs, I'm like, Yo, this
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: just sounds like West Coast, you know, sounding shoty.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: On the way here.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: I'm like, it reminded me of like when I heard
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: like a guy like Donielle Jones, I'm like, Yo, that's
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Atlanta for that time. So I'm wondering, like, when you're
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: making music, are you intentionally saying like I want to.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I want people to feel like where we're from, where
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I'm from, I want them to have that vibe.
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: I think it's just naturally come out of me, like
• 22:12
  Speaker 11: just the natural influences, the DJ Quicks and Doctor J's.
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: I can't escape it. I don't think it's an intentional thing,
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: but I do feel like I intend to, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 11: keep the soul alive, like the love and the message
• 22:27
  Speaker 11: is intentional, like I try to speak on a positive
• 22:31
  Speaker 11: spectrum of things. Yeah, I would say my message is
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: more intentional.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: Because it feels to me when I listen to it,
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: it feels like and it's why I use your captions
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: a lot, because it feels like rap in an R
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: and B it's not like Marvin Gay R and B.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: It's like the new age R and B. Like you
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like it's it's.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Hip hop and I feel like, but that has more
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: because even if you look at Chris Brain, it's a
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: lot a lot of the new music as far as
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: on the R and B space, is in that vein
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: where it's like kind of a hybrid and some of
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: these dudes is really spind did so did you wrap
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: at all?
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: Absolutely? I feel like I came up rapping before I.
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: I was more insecure about my voice when I first
• 23:11
  Speaker 11: started making music. I didn't really get confident with putting
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: out like R and B type rap songs until my
• 23:18
  Speaker 11: voice developed, you feel me. But I'm a big rap
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: fan before anything.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: You know when Again, when I'm listening to it, I'm like, yo,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I know this dude like grew up on nineties R
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: and B. Like I'm listening to it like I hit
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: it down now simple, I hit a case sample and
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I'm like, then I looked, I'm like born in ninety three, Like.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Maybe it wasn't.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: So where did you get the influence for the sound, right,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Because like I hear those simples I'm like, oh damn.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: That reminded me of like when I was a teenager.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: He was like four. There's no way.
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: Well, I'm the youngest, uh in my family.
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: I grew up with all older sisters, you know, so
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: that was the cheek cad. I pretty much just took
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: everything that was listening to and just incorporated into my music.
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: I feel like I give off my my taste. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: get it off of my sister. Like that's who I
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: used to look up to when it came to music.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: So let's talk about the venture capital you guys investing
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: in companies.
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, shout out to Ryan Leslie too. I mean we
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: talked of Ryan. Uh. We were in London for like
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: blast first shoutout show out there, and.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Ryan somebody went there.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: Really she was just put it on Instagram story and
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: I'm like a rock with his music saying I love
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: this guy.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: I saw it. I actually saw the show from her Instagram.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: That's hard.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: When we were out there, Ryan Leslie was out there,
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: so I ended up meeting him at like one of
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: the one of like a hotel. We sat there in
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: the lobby for like an hour or two and just
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: chopped it up and I definitely say like in terms
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: of like converting like the culture in the capitol or
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: you know, converting culture in the commerce. Like I feel
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: like he's one of the He's the guy like right,
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: like turning music money into like legacy, like we know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: generational wealth building. So for us, it was you know
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: at this stage, I mean vic Vic kind of pointed
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: to it earlier, like you know, the fact that Blast
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: you know, owns the stuff, the fact that we have
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: you know, a partnership where we get overhead and we're
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: able to grow and scale. You know, we didn't want
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: to wait ten to fifteen years to start sort of
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: investing back in the community or investing in the products.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: So a lot of stuff we invest in now is
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: stuff that we can impact, like you know, consumer products.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: So it's like you know, a post that he could
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: post us we get throw like a party and we
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: can put some of our consumer products you know at
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: the party. Right, we could post it ourselves and generate
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: buzz for it, so we get a discount on equity
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: or like you know a company like rec Philly, shout out.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: To those guys.
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah we invest in rec Philly. Yeah, we those guys
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: are really hard. But you know, they call itselves like
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: a gym for creatives, so talking about owning the whole process.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: They got like the studios, they got the arts, they
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: got the design studios, they got the Live Nation stage,
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: they got like the coworking space. So it's like they're
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: the definition of vertical integration. Like you get your fifty
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: dollars membership and you can literally, you know, put out
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: a song and perform it at the place. So we're
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: just invested in companies that I think that that we
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: that we align with right now. But I think you
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: everybody when you get money, I think it becomes like
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: an M and a game at some point or a
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: private equity. You gotta you gotta start buying stuff that
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: that's in your field and that you can control.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: You know, A sixteen Z. Yeah you're you're involved with that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: No, the Culture Fund, right, we're not involved, but you know.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Some people that can introduce you. Yeah, you're interested for sure. Yeah.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: So that's that's how people megan. You know, Chris Lines
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: heard about them. We just had dinner with them the
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: other day. So they're good too because they obviously in
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Nisha Harwich is like probably the biggest venture capital firm
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: in the world. So the Culture Leadership f I'm just
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: speaking to the audience. The Culture Leadership Fund is a
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: division of that get towards black people. For short explanation,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: people like and entertainment world stuff like that. But so
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: they invest in all these companies, but then they bring
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: the side deals to you as well. So it's like
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: they'll invest in one hundred companies, but then you can
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: invest in individual companies as well. So we've invested in
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: like like probably four or five individual.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a number seven on the world.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: But the good thing with that is that they do
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: the research already, so it's like they already go through
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: a filter process. So by the time that they're investing
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: in nothing that in venture is guarantee. But it's like
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: they got to check off so many boxes for them
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: to invest in it. So it's like when they bring
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: it to you, it's like, you know, it's it's fully
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: vetted and.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: It's one of those things where it's like young people,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: young people of color can get into the space right
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: through a vetted process.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: So obviously a lot of people in athletics and music
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: have capital or they have liquidation, have cashing, you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: what to do with it, and so it gives an
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: opportunity to educate but also invest too. You set something
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: early blast about the content calendar, and I started thinking
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: as being as an independent label. Obviously the partnership with
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Red Bull is it still that process when you're trying
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: to create a project. Obviously you just put out the
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: new project, But when you're creating it, it's like, Yo,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: we have this mapped out, here's how we're going to
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: do it. Or it's like, Yo, it's just kind of
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: a vibe and I'm in the mood to create.
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: Nah, you're definitely still hands on everything, but we're still
• 28:31
  Speaker 11: scaling everything to like we just brought on creative Shout
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: Out Mayo, which is here right now. But I think
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: for me, it's more so about delegating to people that
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: I can trust, you know, so internally I have to
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: be hands on that ego. We have to be hands
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: on before we even get an approval from anything on
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: the other side, you know.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: So yeah, how important is it to balance being an
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: artist and running a label, because it's like sometimes like
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: people are like, you know, the artist, they just want
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: to be artist. They got to be in an artistic
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: vibe and then the business people got to be in
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: their business vibe. So is there any obviously, you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: all you guys work together, but for you particularly, do
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: you ever think about business too much? Or do you
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: think about art too much?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: How is that balance it? It? Nah? I don't.
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: I feel like I found my balance, like just recently.
• 29:26
  Speaker 11: But again it goes into trusting you know, Carling vict
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: make it to where I can solely focus on the
• 29:33
  Speaker 11: music and they still give me updates on what's going on.
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: It's just like a funnel of information to where the
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: information is not too high or it's not too low.
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: It's like, you know, it's perfect for me to keep
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: my momentum because I think the most important thing is
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: the art. That's what's driving everything at the end of
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: the day, and that has to remain authentic, has to
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: remain genuine and intentionally for anything.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: As he's creating the art, I guess, are you not
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: looking for the talent as well?
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Like, what's that process like for y'all, because obviously this
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: is the main focus.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Is obviously a partner.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Are we looking for new talent to say, all right,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: let's expand outside of just what we know?
• 30:17
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I'm not I wouldn't say like were
• 30:20
  Speaker 12: scouring the earth like for the next class. But I
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: think we take it as it all comes to us.
• 30:28
  Speaker 12: I mean a lot of these things come naturally. Synergy
• 30:31
  Speaker 12: is created naturally. I mean, the essence of our company
• 30:33
  Speaker 12: in general is not nothing is like fabricated. So I
• 30:37
  Speaker 12: think just even creating these relationships with artists and understanding
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: like the values and the morals that we have as
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: a company, it's kind of like some of the stuff
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: is them there like out of bounds for it just
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: because like they morality don't line up with the business
• 30:51
  Speaker 12: ethics or the business acumen that we have. But I
• 30:54
  Speaker 12: think in every area we're looking to expand. No, I
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: mean I think that's how we stay competitive. I mean
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: that's how Blast stays fresh as a businessman. I think
• 31:02
  Speaker 12: that's that's probably like one of the most I mean
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: bringing up me speaking as a manager, like working with
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: an artist and actually seeing like, ah, this is like
• 31:11
  Speaker 12: your real potential and then let's see what happens when
• 31:15
  Speaker 12: we actually load it up and really try to take
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: it to the take it to the finish line, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: when you actually get that. I mean I feel like
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: that that side relief is damn there. Like, Okay, I
• 31:26
  Speaker 12: did it one time, but it's damn there. Like you
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: see all these people out here trying to achieve this
• 31:31
  Speaker 12: music goal, and it damners seemed unachievable when you see
• 31:35
  Speaker 12: how much music get put out every day and stuff
• 31:37
  Speaker 12: like that, and how many artists are trying to actually
• 31:39
  Speaker 12: reach that ceiling. So I think for us, but going
• 31:43
  Speaker 12: back to the original point, just as far as like
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: building scaling, I think in every area, we're trying to
• 31:49
  Speaker 12: definitely max out our potential.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Talk about artist management, that's something that a lot of
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: people don't fully understand why it's important, what the responsibilities
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: of a manager is.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, talking about that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah, But like I said earlier, I played football, So
• 32:05
  Speaker 12: I played middle linebacker in college. So I called all
• 32:08
  Speaker 12: the plays. So I'm getting three hundred and fifty pounds
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: defensive linement lined up right, So it's not I mean,
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: I feel like this is very synonymous with that, like
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: talking to employees, making sure that we actually delegating tasks properly,
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: and then just accountability, like I mean, a lot of
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: I would say it's multiple different types of managers, but
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: like I'm a manager, but I also look at myself
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: as more so like I operate more in that president role.
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: I guess you could say, but it's just about me.
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: I get up there, Mary five thirty every day. But
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: I'm used to that because of sports. I'm used to
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: that because of the team stuff. And then also just
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: challenging blasts and making him uncomfortable before anybody else can
• 32:49
  Speaker 12: make him uncomfortable, having those uncomfortable conversations, like me and
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: him that have multiple one on one sit downs where
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: it's just like we're working through stuff and just growing pains,
• 32:58
  Speaker 12: just building a friendship, building a business, doing that manager
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: artist relationship. So I think that just as much as
• 33:05
  Speaker 12: the artist is invested in themself and trying to sharpen
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: their tools, like I gotta do the same exact thame too, Carl.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: You said internationally known as a as a entertainment attorney.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: And I heard obviously the show in London, London, and
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: so it makes me think about the strategic plan to
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: have him become a global artist. A lot of times
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: people create locally, and the sound states local. What metrics,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: what analytics are you using to say, like, all right,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: London is a place we can go or the next
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: international city is the place we can go.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: How that? How did that happen? Man?
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: I think London chose blast for sure, Like I think
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: outside of LA I don't want to. I know we
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: have metrics to back it up. I think London is
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: probably a second on. Like we go out to London,
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: it's like, you know, it's crazy. So I think the
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: like you know, the listening metrics Spotify, Apple Music, SoundCloud
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: that told us that London was was the top market
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: outside of LA and then you put up a show
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: link and it sells out like this. That also tells
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: you Okay, nah, this is crazy. But you think about
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: like you know, London is a really black city. Like London,
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: there's like you know, it's like the Africa pipeline doesn't
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: really start in America. It's like you go out to London,
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: it's like, you know, everybody is from Ghana or in
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: Nigeria and you know, so so it felt like, you know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: we haven't been to Africa and we playing we're going
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: this year, but it felt like a bridge to Africa,
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: like you know that that's what London feels.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Like for me.
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: So everybody out there is first generation, first generation, a.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: Lot of immigrant we did a show in London. It
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: was amazing, and London and energy out there, like you said,
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: is different because they when you're an immigrant, you have
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: a different level of psyche. I feel like, I mean,
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: like your parents is just teaching you just to fit
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: into society, and then they're looking at us and the
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: way that we're doing things. They're kind of like renegade
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: to the whole situation. So it gets not only educa
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: but inspiration and motivation as well. So it's like, you know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: in like Toronto, Canada is another one. It was just
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: like places where there's a lot of black people, but
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: they they don't have that scene like in America. We
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: take a lot of things for granted because we've been here,
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So it's like, you know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: of course there's issues with America, but it's like the
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: opportunities that we have in America, a lot of people
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: don't have those opportunities in different places. So it's like
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: even from a music standpoint, like it's harder to break
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: out of Toronto and London, like Drake has done it
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: and a few artists have done it, but look at
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: those artists compared to hundreds and thousands of artists that
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: have done it in America, right, Like there's still not
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: really a huge rapper Like Central Sea is making headway,
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: but think about it's still not really a huge South
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: to gigs. But nobody has become Drake out of London ever,
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Like that's kind of crazy if you think about it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, now that's a fact. I mean nobody has come like.
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: But I also to say, like, I think like art
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: just comes from like a broken fabric, and I think,
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: you know, the best art comes from America. And I
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: think like, you know, you think about the generations of
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: hurt and pain, and you know you think about Las
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: you know, South Central, the riots to you know, the
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: way black people came here, the way you know, people
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: lost their property.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: I was, I was looking at looking up Oakwood, right,
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: Oakwood and Venice, and I was like, you know, people's
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: owning their homes. It was like a real black place.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: And you know, you go to Venice, now you go
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: to Oakwood, it's like the population the black population dropped
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: from like thirty five to like sixteen percent. And that's
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: the best realt that's one of that's some of the
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: best real estate in LA. It's Venice, like, right, near
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: the water, right near the airport. So I think art
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: is kind of like a I think the reason why
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: some of those not saying there's no, there's not a
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: struggle in London because there is, obviously, but like you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: it feels like black people in America have kind of
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: been leading, like the the global civil rights movement for
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: the longest of time and challenging everything, and I think
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: the art's reflective of that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: No, that's a fact. That's a fact.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: So as far as partnerships, right, you guys obviously have
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: a partnership with Red Bull, but you have any other
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: partnerships and his partnerships and collaborations part of your strategy moving.
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: Forward, absolutely, I mean, I think that's that's the baseline
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: of everything planning on given just giving the keys to anybody,
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: especially the foundation we set up to this point, like
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: we already Carl mentioned it earlier. We had every single
• 37:30
  Speaker 12: music label exec every chairman tell us like, you can't
• 37:34
  Speaker 12: record radio single at Red Bull, You're not gonna be
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: able to achieve these numbers, blah blah blah blah blah.
• 37:41
  Speaker 12: And I just was like, shit, hang up in the
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: middle of the and they faced like you're not gonna
• 37:46
  Speaker 12: tell me what we can and cannot do learn But
• 37:54
  Speaker 12: I think, I mean, at this point, we didn't we
• 37:55
  Speaker 12: didn't shot all those all those records down, like we
• 37:58
  Speaker 12: checked off every box that they said an artist and
• 38:01
  Speaker 12: the independent structure could check. And I think that's heavily
• 38:05
  Speaker 12: based off the fact that we are the culture and
• 38:08
  Speaker 12: we come with the culture, and there's these these relationships
• 38:11
  Speaker 12: that we've procured.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Rather it be Kendrick Lamar, rather it be nas.
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: Rather it be Rick Ross, like they all organic through
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: some type of network channel that we already pretty just had.
• 38:22
  Speaker 12: So as we continue to do that, I mean, I
• 38:24
  Speaker 12: think that with the partnership situation, I think everybody understands
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: going in the business with Eagle, like that's what it's.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Gonna be when I'm in black space. Like that was
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the brunch on Sunday.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Til Sunday Man, I mean, Grammy nominated. Did we not
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: say that at the side of the show. We did
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: not myself. We got to knowledge that, Man, Grammy nominated obviously,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: you know you've been grinding obviously from l A so
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: to be Grammy nominated for you know, so with with Kendrick,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, what was that like for the label right,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: this is there's three guys obviously from employees. But you're like, yo, damn,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: we've been in this game maybe five six years. We
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: already not made it for something.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: What was that? Like, I want to hear your perspective
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: of this.
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: To be honest with you, I don't think it mattered,
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: to be honest, Like, I literally don't think we were
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: we It's cool. I think some people want us to
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: be happier, but it's like, I think the fabric of Eagles,
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: like you know, we already believe, Like to even look
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: at a record label and be like, we're not signing
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: with y'all because we know the music is good. We
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: know we got these relationships, it kind of just takes
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: a different type of confidence and faith. So I think
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: we just you feel like that's just a not that's
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: a part of the process, and we want to win it.
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: Like it's like cool the nomination don't but it's like, yo,
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: we want to win it.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: I definitely thought that was going to be the answer.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: You said, well, and that's the other We kind of
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: all this like it's a good and bad thing. I think,
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: you know, we do it in different ways, but like
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: we're literally all kind of the same, Like the fabric
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: of the company is like, you know, we're definitely not
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: the We're not We're not going to go into office
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: and get hold you know what I'm saying, when they're
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: not gonna come and tell us lies and it's not
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: us like all three of us. Like he might be
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: quiet about it, you know, Vic might be louder about it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: You know, I might be more suit and tigh about it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: But we all like the same fabric. We're gonna own
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: this shit like regardless.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: So, like you spoke about Kendrick, do you guys have
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: any inspirations as far as looking at labels like a
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: TD or like you know whatever, Like no, right, do
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: you guys get mentorship from any of those people?
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: And do you guys like look.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: At those type of people where it's like, all right,
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: this is something we can use and kind of model
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: some things out there.
• 40:44
  Speaker 12: I wouldn't say like mentorship to be honest with you.
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: I mean, that's no disrespect to nobody, But I just
• 40:50
  Speaker 12: think that even the way when we came in I
• 40:52
  Speaker 12: mean the state of Law one, we did that deal
• 40:54
  Speaker 12: in the pandemic, So in the state of Music in
• 40:57
  Speaker 12: Los Angeles was so different from when Blast was starting
• 41:01
  Speaker 12: to really like create that large buzz that the whole
• 41:04
  Speaker 12: sound of everything. It was going from like gang bang
• 41:07
  Speaker 12: Ratchet to smooth my locky. So it was like that
• 41:10
  Speaker 12: transition to category yeah ratchet, but you know, just that transition,
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: I think that it changed everything.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, music changed, people moved how they move around.
• 41:25
  Speaker 12: You started to see people just in different pockets, people
• 41:28
  Speaker 12: trying to make different type of music.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: More positive music.
• 41:31
  Speaker 12: And I think Blass definitely set the tone to make
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: that cool outside of people like Kailin for real being
• 41:36
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• 41:37
  Speaker 6: Well, I think that there is a pocket of like
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: Sir Boogie Blast. I feel like it's kind of in
• 41:45
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• 41:49
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• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Even like I was, I was thinking, like, yo, who
• 41:57
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• 41:59
  Speaker 4: it's a couple, like you just named some Klane that
• 42:02
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• 42:05
  Speaker 4: of what I'm saying, like it's R and B Janey,
• 42:09
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• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's just like a vibe.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: I feel like Sir, I like Sir A lot, Yeah
• 42:17
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  Speaker 12: And I think it's super reflective of just like what
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  Speaker 12: So I mean, you see the video like niit first
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  Speaker 10: Aside from all the crazy business stuff he was.
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  Speaker 4: Doing already, you said one of the verticals obviously is
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  Speaker 5: What's the plans for that?
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  Speaker 12: I mean we got to merch partnership, So another another
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  Speaker 12: of like conjure up a vision and consistency through branding,
• 47:58
  Speaker 12: like he was doing stuff that he didn't even understand
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: that he was doing, right, And I'm just like, Damn,
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: somebody made you like a color pardor like a color
• 48:06
  Speaker 12: code or something like how you coming up with all
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: of this, And it was really just so natural that
• 48:10
  Speaker 12: when we started moving forward and making this merch, we
• 48:13
  Speaker 12: walked into all these meetings showing like, we've already sold
• 48:16
  Speaker 12: x amount of merch independently, We've already did all this
• 48:18
  Speaker 12: so that, you know, you got to kind of have
• 48:20
  Speaker 12: a proof of concept when you want to have ownership
• 48:22
  Speaker 12: of all this stuff. So when we walked in with
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: proof of concepts and showing that this is our merch business,
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: this is the merchandising factory work with, this is how
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: fast we can produce merch, they didn't have no problem
• 48:34
  Speaker 12: handing that over to us. And I think now in this
• 48:35
  Speaker 12: stage our tour merching goes so crazy that it's like,
• 48:40
  Speaker 12: I think our big focus this year is just making
• 48:42
  Speaker 12: sure that consistently year around that even when we're not
• 48:44
  Speaker 12: on the road, that our merch business is growing in
• 48:47
  Speaker 12: every single space from our product way, from product to
• 48:50
  Speaker 12: the delivery to the packaging, even down just to the
• 48:53
  Speaker 12: customer experience.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: So you said your tour and being on the road
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: obvious that's a major part of any artist's career.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: Do you do.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: That yourself as far as devenizel or do you work
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: with somebody like Live Nation to help out with that.
• 49:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, we did our whole list tour with Live Nation.
• 49:09
  Speaker 12: We got William Morris Entertainment as our agency. Shout out
• 49:13
  Speaker 12: to both of them. They did a super do job.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, So are you hands on with that or you
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: just let them just.
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: Hands were approving. We're approving every stop.
• 49:24
  Speaker 12: Were approving pretty much how we're doing it, the capacity,
• 49:28
  Speaker 12: I mean, but that's why we chose them as a
• 49:30
  Speaker 12: partner too, right like, because we respect their opinion, we
• 49:33
  Speaker 12: trust what they've already done in the game, and they
• 49:35
  Speaker 12: coming to us and really like teaching us and mentoring
• 49:37
  Speaker 12: us how to be able to move through this world
• 49:39
  Speaker 12: because we're getting money together.
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: So it's not like it's usually beneficial for both parties.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: And when you're looking at them deals that we're looking
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: at line item like yo, we need percentage of the
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: if there's a bar in the venue, we need percentage
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: of concessions.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: We're doing all this Yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: No, we definitely did. I mean, you know, every venue
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: has a different like you know merch raise. It's like
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: some venues are like, yo, we need twenty percent of
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: the merchant some five. Yeah, we went through all that
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: and you can't sell it, yeah, or you can't sell it.
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: That stuff that even like so when we do it,
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: we do it on ourselves and that stuff that we
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: had to learn because so we have a big festival
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: called Investments in Atlanta, right, and that's at the Georgia
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: World Congress Center, a venue like that. We just we
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: bought a venue for the weekend and we control a venue,
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: so we sell merch. Whatever we do, we get one
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: hundred percent. But then we do an event at MSG
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: and that's a ticket Master event. So then it's like,
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: all right, well it's twenty percent that you got to
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: give to them. They got to sell a merch for you.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: It's a bunch of different things, and it's like even
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: with getting paid, we had to learn that because it's
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: like going back to GWCC. We set the ticket thing
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: up ourselves and it's daily deposits that come in. Ain't
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: time somebody buys a ticket. The next day we get
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: paid from that, which is good because if you're funding
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: something yourself, then you need the money. But then it's
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: like a ticket Master venue, we don't get paid until
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: like thirty days after the event, which you just got
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: to be able to budget that because it's like, all right,
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: you're not going to get this money until it's over,
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: so make sure you got money on reserve. This is
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: stuff that you don't really you don't really know unless
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: you actually are in it and doing it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Learn we're trying to put net now into the contrast,
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: ninety is over like a whole different year.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: But put that ninety in.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I think the most thing, most obviouslynything is going to
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: happen is that you're gonna forget. Yeah, it's like three
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: months later and you've got so many things happen.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: It's like, wait, what happened?
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: Did we get the ninety Yeah, so we're trying to
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: work on the net now now.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: I think the net thing is like the core of
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: the problem with the music business.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: It's like, you know, if more teams have liquidity, right,
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: money in their pocket now, like they wouldn't have to
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: do so many bad deals. But like publishers and back
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: end sport, it takes nine months to collect. Like Chosen
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: could be at radio number one, but you're not getting
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: that money right now, nine months away.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: You know what's so crazy? All y'all. How old are y'all? Thirty? Thirty?
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty, that's crazy.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: So we're not that far off in age. But so
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: there's a different generation for them, but it's not that far.
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: But so ghost Face got one of the best lines
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: of all time when he was like, waiting on these
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: royalties take too long.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: It's like waiting on babies.
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: Like it's like it almost makes you have to take
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: in advance right in our industry, and advance can be paralyzing.
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: Like you take advance and now all of a sudden,
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: your business is compromised at so many different levels because
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: you got to pay that back, you have less freedom.
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: So I think like real time royalty payouts, like you
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: think about the next technologies in the industry and change
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: things for creators. I think that's the sort of.
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: Real time royalty. So that is that anything? Like is
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: that blockchain technology?
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: I think it is blockchain.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: I talked a lot about how that was what I
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: saw blockchain. You know, everybody had their sort of theories
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: on what blockchain is going to help. But as related
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: to the music industry, I thought it was going to
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: help in two places. I thought metadata, right, like painting
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: a record you know, a lot of people don't get
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: because songwriter splits are off the information is not at
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: one spot, and it's not you know, there's no chaining record.
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: So I thought, you know, blockchain would help with that
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: and then real time royalty payouts. But you know, so
• 53:12
  Speaker 8: much stuff lives off chain that like you know, when
• 53:15
  Speaker 8: I see like an NFT go up for like a
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: music royalty, that's a joke, Like that's exactly, it's a joke,
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: Like you're never gonna get paid because we're all not
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: getting paid from the record label. Like you got your
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: own twenty percent of a song that you're not going
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: to get royalties from because you got to go do
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: the same royalty process we do. So when things go
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: on chain, when I think, like you know, we actually
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: get stuff like faster, it's gonna be it's gonna that's
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: gonna be the truer creator economy in my.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Is that the vision for the publishing company that you're creating,
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: right because at some point, like you're the company that
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: is now collecting all this data, right, right, So is
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: it to now see the flaw in the system and say,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: all right, here's how we can correct it.
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you got I think, like it's definitely
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: not a goal right now, just because like you know,
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: we'd have to go to foreign territories and establish that
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: collection relationship. People do though, Like there's been pub companies
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: that started and like, yo, I'm gonna go to South Korea,
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: but you're gonna have to like go to South Korea
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: and like sit down and you're gonna have to go
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: to Italy and talk to like the people over there
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: in Germany and develop that one and one like here's here's
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: our license, here's our collecting. So it's not feasible, So
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: which is why there's like sort of a monopoly on
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: publishing because whoever has those relationships already, You're just like
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna go to y'all, who's gonna charge me the
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: less to collect?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Who's taking the smallest percentage?
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: He was taking the smallest percentage. But you think about it,
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: and it's like, you know, if payments become a royalty,
• 54:39
  Speaker 8: calculations become a little bit more streamlined, then we can
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: see what money's out there, because you know, the technology
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: allows us to see it. It's an interesting time.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Y'all can be bringing off in South Africa right now.
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: Right now, we know how much money we make in
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: and all that sort of stuff.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting to see how Web three is really
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: going to affect the music business. And this is another
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: conversation that we was having on Chris Lines all the
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: night when he was it's just like even talking about
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: like crypto, right, and he was like, right now, everybody's
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: looking at things singular, and it's gonna make more sense
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: when it's looked at as a collective. So as opposed
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: to saying like, okay, crypto is separate from you know,
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: NFTs is separate from AI. It all got to work together.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: So the analogy that he gave was actually pretty brilliant
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: where he was like, okay, like GPS, right, GPS is
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: a technology within itself, payment processing systems is a technology
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: within itself, and then the cell phone is a technology
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: within itself. But nobody realizes that Uber is a combination
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: of all of it, right, Like Uber, there's no Uber.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Without GPS, which but it just has to work.
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: It's integrated in it, right, and then you need the
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: payment processing system to work with the GPS.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: It's on your cell phone. Now you create Uber right.
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: Where it's like there's no Uber without GPS technology, but
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: you're not just looking at like GPS is its own
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: separate entity, right. GPS is really integrated in everything that
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: we do. You don't even realize that a great and
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: everything that we do. Right, So it's like once the crypto,
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: and then once the blockchain, and once the AI, all
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: of that gets integrated in everything now, like you said,
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: like real time royalty payments and different things of that nature.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: Like it's all going to make a lot more sense.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: I feel like we have the beginning stages and it's
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: not making a lot of sense. But once it really
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: starts to get a little bit more streamlined integrated, all
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: of this new technology is going to make a lot
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: more sense and make it a lot more efficient.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: I don't know what song that was when it was
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: remember what's song and nip going like that ran at
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: the end of the song about new technology.
• 56:34
  Speaker 12: That song the box money, Yeah yeah, my big businesses
• 56:38
  Speaker 12: found stuffy Yeah yeah, yeah, it was distinctly I was
• 56:42
  Speaker 12: a freshman in Washington.
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: How you feel about how you feel about AI because
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: we see this stuff where like they had an eminem
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: song you see that, Yeah, and they used the voice
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: and it sounds just like an Eminem song.
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: I was literally on CNN talking about AI and music,
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: like and AI has a too great. We've been using
• 57:01
  Speaker 8: AI to create music more efficiently and faster for a
• 57:04
  Speaker 8: long time now. Like a lot of the products that
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: producers and songwriters use to put out music quickly is
• 57:10
  Speaker 8: AI driven. But you know generative pure generative AI music. Right,
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: So like actually like feeding you know the machine, like
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: machine learning technology, feeding it songs from Eminem, Travis Scott
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: and then it producing a sound an original song that
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: is based off that work. It it poses so many
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: legal issues that.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: It's not like it was a producer.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: They were like, yo, let's put Timberland for real, and
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: let's make beats. And it made like seventy beats in
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: the house.
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: Fit you just feed it to the machine and just
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: put spits out of.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: Beat GBTV like all right, sing me a song in
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: a sad mood with the Louisiana accent and it'll come out.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Or I can take Blast's voice and I could be
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: the person singing it and it's his voice.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Fit on my body.
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: They had a djin, I think it was one of
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: these DJs. They played the record and it was like
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: one hundred thousand people there and it was like and
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: they thought it was a new record, like know what
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: I mean? They didn't even know, like this was just
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: an AI driven So as an artist, how you cause
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: that's kind of scary, Like, you know, art is supposed
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: to be curated by you know, it's a lot. How
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: do you feel about a machine just making art?
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: That's scary.
• 58:19
  Speaker 11: It's scary, It's like and then it is becoming so
• 58:23
  Speaker 11: real you can't even tell the difference. So it's just
• 58:27
  Speaker 11: I don't know, it's mind boggling for me.
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a fact. So do you still practice law?
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: Like are you still all right? You're running a label?
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: Are you still are you the lawyer for the label
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: as well?
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but we don't we don't have much like EA,
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: sure for sure, Like you know, I handle you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: our contracts and stuff like that, like protecting file for trademarks,
• 58:47
  Speaker 8: copyrights for sure. I also think we're definitely bringing some
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: some people on for that. But yeah, I still operate
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: the Folks firm in downtown Newark, and I have an
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: associate attorney. I have offered manager, so I still take
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: on some new business, but I've kind of transformed that
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: practice practice to more of a like advocacy process practice,
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: like how can I like do some cool stuff in
• 59:11
  Speaker 8: law to like I'm taking expungement cases like stuff like
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: that just to kind of keep my just make an impact.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: It's also it's also a good network. You know Vernon Brown.
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: I heard Vernon Brown. I think it's a teacher Pace exactly.
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so Vernon Brown, he's I knew him my whole
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: life actually, but he's Cash Money's lawyer. Yeah, and one
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: of the most respected in the music business for a
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: long time. But he's he's an adjunct professor at Pace
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: teaches law. But it's a great networking tool and it's
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: a great way to kind of stay sharp and you
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: meet a variety of different people by still practicing, still teaching,
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: and it all.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: Comes together, you know, you know what deals are happening.
• 59:54
  Speaker 8: It's like it's just so much of a benefit for
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: my other business if I know, like, oh, this is
• 59:59
  Speaker 8: what the ar curator is, like, this is what this
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: is what this guy signed a record a record contract for.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 8: It's like, you know, I feel like that information is invaluable.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: So as a professor, right, he said, your professor Addrexel
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Yep from a standpoint of creating curriculum, what are the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: things that you're seeing from your students are like, Yo,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: these are the things that they want to know versus
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: these are the things that you should know.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 8: Man, I'll be honest. Teaching the music business program, they
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: want to know hip hop. Like the business of hip
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 8: hop and black culture is like the strongest thing ever.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: Like they have curriculum. My class is probably the hottest
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: class at Drexel because every semester I'm bringing in guests,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: like and they just want to hear from like tier
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: Tierra Wax manager or whoever the hot artist is at
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: that time. And those kids are producers, They're on fruity loops,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: they're like making beats. So I think it just gives
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: me like insight on like how strong black culture is
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: and how strong hip hop is because those kids at Dredful,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: they really want to work in the industry, to kind
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: of work in work on hip hop projects.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: I want to get all you guys perspective on this.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: Academic says something recently that got a lot of attention.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: He said that hip hop is becoming more and more
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: regional and not global, where like afro beats is becoming
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: is a global form of music, and he was like,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: you know, hip hop is becoming a regional art form,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: not global.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: What's your thoughts on that? Going first, I think.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 12: I mean, I think one. So we just we just
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 12: went on tour at the end of the year. We
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 12: damned the tour the last six months. We had an
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 12: Australian leg of tour, we had a European portion of
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 12: the tour, and then we had obviously domestic but just
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 12: just talking about those international plays for the most part,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 12: like Carl was saying, like Africa, Nigeria five hour flight
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 12: from London, so that's New York to LA So it's
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 12: like being able to tap in with European markets. All
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 12: these Caribbean descendants and all these first generation African millennials
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 12: and stuff like that that are in our age bracket
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 12: that's moving around the world.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: It's like they're servicing more of a global market anyway.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 12: But on the back end of it, it's like all
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 12: of this is really the essence of it is poor
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 12: from American hip hop culture. So it's like, I don't
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 12: ever think that hip hop can become regional because all
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 12: you hear in London is a version of drill music.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: That's all you hear.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 12: So it's like you can't really say hip hop is
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 12: becoming at all regional because we were in New Zealand
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 12: and like it was a girl trying to rap for us,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 12: Like it was a New Zealand girl trying to rap
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 12: for us, and she literally was trying to rap like
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 12: the city girls.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 10: And it's like, that's not that's not.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 12: Even like that, remember that, Like we were sitting there
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 12: having a conversation but at a restaurant, like, well, that's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 12: not too like, it's not it's not even gonna work
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 12: like your accident all that when we started talking where
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 12: you dress, none of it adds up with what you're
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 12: trying to portray. So I never from the way that
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 12: people in the way that American accents are mimicked in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 12: the UK and every other part of the world, like
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 12: people grow up practicing this and watching our TV shows
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 12: and pretty much you talked about Central C Central C
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 12: number one line about Dosi Cat, you know what I mean,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 12: like everybody quoting that. So I don't think at all
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 12: it is really become a regional. Now is the message
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 12: starting to become repetitive? I do think that some of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 12: the message in hip hop is starting to become repetitive.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 12: But I feel that's a whole nother conversation.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: I would say, I feel like music itself is always regional.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: I think like only a certain level of song breaks
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 8: through anyway, right, like twenty years ago, like I think
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: probably pro Ada, like the same amount of songs we're
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: breaking through from hip hop culture, like fifty cent in
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: the Club, Like we still got those records now, But
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 8: like hip hop's regional, like it is, like it's just
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: a regional game, but every genre is regional. Like you
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: go to Brazil, they got their reasonal touch, but only
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 8: a certain bracket of those songs break through ely right,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 8: it's the same thing. Yeah, I think I think only
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: a small fraction of songs from hip hop have breaking
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: through globally. That's been the history of hip hop.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah sure, yeah, I kind of agree with what Carl said,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 11: even just traveling, like going to Europe and stuff, seeing
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 11: how it's artists that you never heard of, but you
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 11: you'll look them up. See they following their the biggest
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 11: thing in that one section. So in a sense, I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 11: feel like hip hop is regional and music is just
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 11: in a weird space, like we just we just want
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 11: change right now. It's like we're feeding for something new.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 11: So anything that's off the ward, left field, we just
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 11: hold on to it, like yeah, this, this is it.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: This is the next thing, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I feel like and it comes in ways too, right.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: It's like right now, Reggaetny's is huge, you know because
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: a lot of the artists Bad Bunny and Well and all.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's a language barrier as well, because Spanish
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: is spoken in half the world's population, so that gives
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: them an advantage. The Afro Beaches is on the rise
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: right now. It is spreading, and I feel like hip
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: hop is going through a remake. I feel like it's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: going through a remake, like you know what I'm saying,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: and that happens it's fifty years old. Like it's like,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: this is the fiftieth anniversary of hip hop this year.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: So it's it's grown from you know, just hip hop
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: to the gang culture to the bad boy era to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: you know, so it's over the drill music. So I
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: feel like, you know, we're looking to see what's the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: next iteration hip hop.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: I think this is interesting. We're having a conversation with
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: you all, because you've created EGO. We would Dougie Fresh
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: and he said, there's five elements of hip hop, right.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: He said, it's the MC, there's the DJ, there's the graffiti,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: there's breakdancing. And he said he now this is really,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: this is really he really said this to us. And
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: he said the fifth one was him. He could create
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: the human beat box, right. And I was like, you
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: know what, there's a sixth element that's being created right now,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: and it's the business of hip hop. And so the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: fact that Eagle is creating that and obviously what any
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: leision is we always say, like yo, hip hop is
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: at the core of what we do. I'm thinking now, like,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: you got all these verticals right on the landscape. What
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: verticals do you think that you're missing or you want
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: to add over the next couple of years.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, really, no vertical that we want
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: to add other than like growing building a real company,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: like actually building something horizontally and vertically that we could sell,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: Like when a company does due diligence on EGLE, we
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: want there to be like you know, we have every
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: HR policy, we have all the back end of what
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: a real company looks like so because I honestly feel like,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: you know, a lot of people from hip hop haven't
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: been able to build like or han't had the experience
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: to build something that was like you know, the Google
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: or like those real massive companies. So shout to Larry Jackson.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: I saw that, you know Gamma, you know, like stuff
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 8: like that is really really dope to see. I think
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 8: when they look under the hood, I just want, you know,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: Egle to be like, man, that's a that's a wide company.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 8: They got employees. You know, everyone asks health you know
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 8: small so everyone has health insurance stuff like that, right,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 8: Like that's a real company.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like everyone When people talk like yo,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: I got a label, right, you see an artist, I
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: gotta label, I often want to like do they even
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: know what it entails?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: Is a staff? Y'all have meetings like like is there
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 8: a schedule? Like how are you guys holding each other
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: account policy?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: It becomes something different like I'm an artist and I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: like you, so I'll sign you. How do I do that?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: I'll create a record label and now you're an artist
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: and now I have a record label.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 8: I think that's the next fifty years of hip hop, right,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 8: I think like, you know, it's the fiftieth anniversary of
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: hip hop. How much of hip hop is black people
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 8: even own?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 8: I know it's a really small number. I don't have
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: the metrics, but it's you just people just don't own
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 8: their masters, they don't own their publishing. So the next
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: fifty years it's about developing a business sophistication to properly
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 8: staff and service your music in a way that you
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: don't gotta you know, hold your stuff out. You don't
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 8: got to sell it to this company for no reason.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 8: So I think, you know, I think that's what we
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: want to be known for. And people look under that hood. Man,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: that's a that's a strong company. You know, there's a
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: lot of employees, there's a lot of reach. They're doing
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: so many different things. They got competitive you know, benefit packages,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 8: all that sort of stuff.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we just changed the term.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: We just did it.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: And since you're the entertainment lawyer, we're gonna have to
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: train on this. This is the business education. This is
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: gonna be the sixth element.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 8: Six element. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: So let me ask you this.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: You brought up a good point as far as selling
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: your artist your masters.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: This is something that's very popular these days.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: We just met somebody the other day that he's the
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: one that brought Nickhi Minoag's catalog.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: I even know she sold the catalog. We have to know.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: I know, I know who you're talking about. Okay, I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: know where that you know their office is, right.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: I don't After this, we'll talk.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: But we have IRV Gotti on his couch and he
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: sold his catalog for I think two hundred million, right, yeah, uh,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: incentives to make it three hundred explained. So now people,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: it's like the last eighteen months, everybody's on the cattle future.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: I just seen metro booming, so it's like liquidation events
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: and they getting valuations like tech companies. So that's obviously
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: beneficial whenever you can get a lump sum of money, right.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: I always say what people don't know about Elon Musk
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: is that he actually sold PayPal for one hundred million
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: dollars and then went broke because he used that money
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: to fund space as in Tesla. Now he's the richest
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: person in the world and he's worth two hundred billion, right,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: But it's like he wouldn't have had SpaceX or Tesla
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: if he didn't sell PayPal. But then there's another argument
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: where people are like, well, we gotta hold on to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: what we create and we keep selling it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: You're not buying that.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: What's your what's your thoughts on people selling their catalogs
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: and that? Would you guys ever want to do that?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: At some point?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: I would? I want to.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: I want actually want to hear blast? Yeah, I want to.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 11: That's funny because every time I see, like when they
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 11: do a post of like how metro so did, it's
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 11: always a rent in the comments, like black people.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: Don't never keep with you. Yeah that's a fact. That's
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: a fact. But you brought up a good point.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 11: It's like you have to take the stairs that you like,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 11: you sell paypals, and people don't see the long term play,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 11: you know, they focus on what you're doing right now.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 11: So I don't really know my answer to it, but
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 11: I feel like I got to educate myself but be
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 11: patient and see the long play of why people doing it,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 11: you know, because of course you want to own it,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 11: but for what it's not only about ownership, it's about
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 11: controlling it too.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think too. It's like, you know, everybody else
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: is building an exit, right, so it's like real even
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: real estate. You invest in real estate, buy real estate
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: property for fifty k, and you sell it for a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: million dollars, that's a that's a steal, right. I don't
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: know what that the ex is on that, but like
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 8: there's always a time where it makes sense to sell
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: an asset to get other assets and to build other stuff.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: That's like literally what everybody else is doing. So there
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: was a I don't know what company. So there was
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: a I think it was a like a hair product company.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that sold you know what got Yeah, this
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: conversation we were just yesterday.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there was the same outrage that Blast kind of
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: spoke about where everyone was like, Yo, why are you
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: selling you know, a black owned company?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: And it was like Alia, Yeah, it's like yo, it
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: came up.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: That's when we asked her the first time we met.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: It was like he was like, you know, people asked me,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: you know why I sold my Masters, Like I got
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: a hundred million. People asked why I sold it? Said
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: because I got a hundred million, That's why I sold it.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: think we really have to do a better job of
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: educating black people that is not, and some of it
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: is valid because you know, we have a lot of trauma.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: So whenever we see QC or whatever, it's like, oh,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: you sold out. But the other people never get that,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: do You never see the white people like yo Eli
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: must sold out like you know what I'm saying that,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: like all right, this is business, is what he's doing whatever.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 6: But for black people it happens all the time, whether
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: it's haircare, whether it's music.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: It's like you sold out, Da da da da, And
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: then it'd be like like that you got like hate mail,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: like people like really I.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: Had a conversation with her last night about it, and
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: it was like it didn't hurt as bad because she
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: had somebody to pattern it off of. So like richlu
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: My Dance, who is you know over at Essence in
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: charge of Essence He sold Shrey moisture that it was
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: a one point six billion dollar deal, Jesus Christ one
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: point six and so like when she was interested in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: going down that Avenue was thinking about selling like well,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: she had him to lean on. And the problem is
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: like we don't we've never we don't see it, right,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: Like even the people that we know that are wealthy
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: of our billionaires. They're all first generation I said the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: stuff to day, but they're learning too, right, and so
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: as they learn, yeah, they're gonna have to educate, and
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: like that's part of our role, right, like sitting down
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: with these people to educate people on the structure of career,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: eating an asset and selling an asset and then maybe
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: creating more assets.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: But we're so stuck on, like we have that financial trauma.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: It's like, Yo, you sold out.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: The product ain't the same how you say you change
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: the chemicals? Bro different my head, it's like yo, bro,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: Like really, but I think what you said and I
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: love it. I meant to say it earlier. It was like,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: when we think of business, we talk in terms of companies,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: but when we talk music we talk in terms of labels.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 8: What you like, I'm listening as the manager. It is
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: an operator, Like it like, what's a.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: It's a you're not creating. It's not a record label.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: This is a record company. We're in the business of music.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: But when we change that language, it feels like oh
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: that it's like, oh, this is a label. I got
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: an artist and now I have a label. But do
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: you have a company.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 8: It's elementary you know it's it's something that like again,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: like it's how we control the next with the years
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: of black music, like just changing the way we think
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: about it, like really trying to build a company and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 8: owning every process of it, learning how we distribute, like
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: you know, bridging a gap on connections overseas, like just
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: owning those processes, Like that's how we do it the
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: next fIF the years.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: Another thing, going back to this selling, We had a
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: conversation with Rich and he was saying, what people don't
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: talk about is what happens if you don't sell, because
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: we know that the vast majority of businesses don't make
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: it to be a second generation business. It's even higher
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: for black businesses, right, So he brought up one company,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: I won't mention their name, but a very successful black
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: legacy brand, and he was like, at the peak of
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: their success, like in the nineties, the company was worth
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: like six hundred million dollars, and now the company's worth
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: thirty million dollars.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: So nobody tells that story.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: Like that's another part of the coin too, Like damn,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: like you had it up here and then you wrote
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: it all the way down here, and then you know,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: a kid ends up messing it up and you know, and.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 12: It's like I think that's like a doctor Dre situation,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 12: you know, right, Like doctor Dre was averaging like ten
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 12: million a year, shold it for two hundred and it's like, shit,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 12: he's got like a brain an urhythm just had divorce.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 12: It's like themn my next twenty years, Like who is
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 12: going to be able to operate this creativity? Like me
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 12: and you already hear like crazy stories of doctor Dre,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 12: how you about super ain't in the studio and stuff
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 12: like that. So I can only imagine him thinking like, ah,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 12: do I want X, Y and Z that it is
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 12: in my vicinity to be taking control of this and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 12: not treating it the right way? Or would I rather
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 12: cast out on my next twenty years or what I
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 12: was already making and make those investments for the long term,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 12: Like you're a saying sell that pap really.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just put up the bumpers, right, like put
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: up the bumpers for the next generation. So like you
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: can't mess this up? Yeah, maybe if you try, you couldn't.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 12: And I think this is like directly correlated to like
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 12: you think about like natural selection and like Darwinism and
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 12: like those theories about how you like over time, it
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 12: takes small portions to like, oh, think about like what
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 12: or or something like that. And the Amazon, like fifty
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 12: years ago they beat might have been like two inches shorter.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 12: But now as climate changes, all that stuff changes over time,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 12: the bird changes.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: So I think as far as the business should go
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: the same.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 12: Way, like it take a future a future or a
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 12: metro booman or a doctor Dre or a jay Z
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 12: to make these type of investments and sell these companies
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 12: to be able to jump to that next level of
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: business executiveship to be like, oh okay, now it goes
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 12: from us just being the supplier of the product to
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 12: us having say in what product is the next product?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 12: So I think as that keeps rolling over, like you said,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 12: these next fifty years, we'll see a whole different turnaround
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 12: just because little about little.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: We'll start to see more people in more people in position.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 12: Hopefully that will change the tide of the gatekeeper, and
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 12: there'll be more capital.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: Right, there'll be people that look like us that have
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: more capital or capital what decision means yep.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: So all right, let's talk about the future for eagle.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: So how many you have artists on the label. Now,
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  Speaker 6: how many artists you have?
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  Speaker 8: One signed artist? Hopefully another one soon singh. He's literally
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  Speaker 8: like a like a baby blast, like.
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  Speaker 5: Baby blast her baby blast. Maybe let's not call him
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  Speaker 5: a baby blast. Might not appreciate that. I don't want to.
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  Speaker 5: I want to say it, right, is it? J J
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  Speaker 5: Millan J million million.
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  Speaker 10: He's We'll say he's another one hundred percent produced, writes
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  Speaker 10: his music. Oh yeah, plays instruments, producers.
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  Speaker 8: He produced half the BEINGO and Blast product six stage two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: so you hear his tag. I'll through that project.
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  Speaker 6: So what's what's the goal as far as Yeah, what's
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  Speaker 6: the what's the vision for Eagle in the next five
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  Speaker 6: to ten years?
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  Speaker 5: Of course all verticals.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think one is making sure that
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  Speaker 12: well Carl mentioned earlier, like our employee, he's the artists
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  Speaker 12: that are with It's like it's important for us all
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  Speaker 12: to be on the same page on structurally how we move.
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  Speaker 10: So I think that's the baseline of it.
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  Speaker 12: Like even when even with us having Jamillion as an artist,
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  Speaker 12: we pour into him just as much as a human
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  Speaker 12: being as we pour into him musically and like business wise,
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  Speaker 12: because if he's not if you don't have the regular
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  Speaker 12: human intangibles. He's not going to go that far regardless
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  Speaker 12: if we're on his side or not, because we're not
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  Speaker 12: with him one hundred percent of the time. But we
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 12: taking every effort right now from the people we hire
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  Speaker 12: right now, people we letting go all that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 12: All that goes into what this long term vision for
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 12: egoism that is to grow vertically and the grow horizontally.
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  Speaker 5: Too, Blasphim.
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  Speaker 4: He's the standpoint we got Nas, worked with Kendrick, worked
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  Speaker 4: with DAGs, Sogn, Snoop Ross Ross, who's on the list
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  Speaker 4: that we.
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  Speaker 5: Haven't gotten this?
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  Speaker 11: I say for real, I say that in every interview.
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  Speaker 11: But I think my biggest goal is to have a
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  Speaker 11: Jack executive produced by for Real. That's one of my
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 11: biggest things. But in terms of like artists collaborating, I
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  Speaker 11: feel like I'm still establishing myself in my own voice
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  Speaker 11: and my own narrative.
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  Speaker 5: So that's my main focus.
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  Speaker 6: M Yeah, your music is very It's a high vibration music,
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  Speaker 6: thank you. It's not depressing music. That's important people vib
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  Speaker 6: to every time. Like I feel like when you put
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: out new music, I can count on Russell Westbrook to.
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  Speaker 5: Be in his call listening to this.
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  Speaker 3: I was there last night, like, y'all must have grown
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  Speaker 3: up each other.
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  Speaker 5: Yo.
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  Speaker 4: When you put still on my way, Yo, that just
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  Speaker 4: kept ringing on my timeline. I'm like, yo, I gotta
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  Speaker 4: go download this, so.
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  Speaker 5: Shout out Brodie Man. He pulled up last night to
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: the release.
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  Speaker 6: So now we appreciate youall, guys, MA anything else, y'all
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  Speaker 6: want to let the people be aware of.
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  Speaker 5: Projects out now.
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  Speaker 11: Project just for clarity to go run out there for me.
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  Speaker 11: Much love to everybody that tapped in Eagle Gang.
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  Speaker 3: We got Mustle producing on there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Roddy Richards on the project, Terrris Martin, Larry June, Yeah, major.
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  Speaker 5: And you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Anything else, good money.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to say this really quickly because I I
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  Speaker 4: don't know how we went through this whole interview, like
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: we're having Blast here and Shoty not mentioning that his
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: nickname is Blast.
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  Speaker 3: That's how did we get through this whole without you
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: even saying that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, so this is a story. I spell it different.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: I spelled the red live.
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  Speaker 4: I used to get in this car he'd be playing
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: your music. I'm like he's only rocking it like this,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: like this is pretty nice.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: I take it.
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  Speaker 6: No, that's definitely so welcome audience. That's that's very not
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: a lot of people know that. But my name is
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: for Shot. So growing up, my nickname was Shoddy. That's
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: like every nobody. A lot of people don't even know
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: my name was for Shot for a long period of
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: time because everybody just called me Shody. And then like
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: my real close friends, like like family, like.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: They call me Blast. That's crazy.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: So that was still is like like people like I
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: know like that somebody really like they call me Blast,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: Like I know that they really really know me.
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  Speaker 12: You're not gonna do It's the insight how you got that, man?
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  Speaker 5: Blast got the name well, so I used to.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: I used to play ball and another one of my
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: friends to want it's just like Shoddy Blast, like a
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: shotgun Blast, but there was no actual firearms in this.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: It was it was I had a ratchet. I had.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: I had a ratchet, not a ratchet. I'm not trying
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: to be.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm actually a big fan of your music, man,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: and I appreciate it. My son is tired of hearing
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: me play it because I play you and tims all
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: the time in my car. You're like, Yo, can we
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 6: listen to something else? I'm like, where you want to
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: listen to, like drill music video something or I'm like,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: we're not listening to that in the car. But it's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: actually really like I said, it's a high operation.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: It's a dope. It's a dope vibe, and I really
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: I like it. I actually like the music.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: So, you know, whenever we get a chance to talk
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: to people that were actually fans of that even makes
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: the conversation even better.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: Like I'm actually a fan of the music.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: So and now knowing you guys, I'm a fan of
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: what you guys are doing business wid I feel like,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: you know, you guys definitely have a great head on
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: your shoulder and got a vision for what you want
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: to do. So anything that we can do to help
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: you guys, like I said, definitely try to connect you
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: with a sixteen Z that's easy and anything.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: Stop by the coffee shop too in Newark. What's the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 6: name of the coffee shop?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 8: It's a wine bar.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: When is it open August? Okay, Yeah, it's going to
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: be like a night life vibe.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Jersey is a place stat everyone's actually
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 8: like yo, when you leave in Jersey type, why, I'm
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 8: actually from like south like right near Philly, so like
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 8: Camden County.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: Oh that's even worse.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: You live in Camden obviously live in Newark.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: Are you from Camden from Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, But I didn't grow up like one step.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: Up shout everybody in Camden, Shout to the Wana, the
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: whole Campden.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 8: Like my grandpa is like like he was like one
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 8: of the early like first black students. So I came
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 8: to high So it's like a very interesting like the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 8: see Camden the way it is now is definitely different
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 8: from me.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: It wasn't.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 8: The history of Camden is like very you know, the
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: r c A Plant was there, Like it's just it's
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 8: like it's like a Midwest city in the middle of
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 8: New Jersey, Like factories left and it's like he's abandoned
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 8: Camden Once.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: It was like I went to a water park up there.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, man, you know you know exactly, yeah,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: I know, yeah, I said, yeah, we can't come. Is
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: there another one that got.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: Jersey to Jersey? Man? Yeah? But Newark? Yeah so so,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: but Newark is actually in the process of changing. You
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: can see it.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: You can see it.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 8: I moved there during the pandemic. I was actually living
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 8: in Camden County. That's where my first law office was.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: So I was doing a lot of deals and actually
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 8: I think we're wallowing, Gilly actually record what was where
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: my office was at. So I was doing it there
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 8: and then moved up to Newark during the pandemic, and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: based on base, I just saw it. You just see it,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 8: like you know, marijuana is legal in Jersey. Newark was
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: an international airport, twenty minute train ride into the city.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 8: Black culture hub like literally black mayor, you know, black
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 8: congressman like all time and stuff. So you could just
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 8: see the fabriculous city, like, man, this is a place.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 8: This is a place that you can afford, you can
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 8: help sort of shape the next fifty years of and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 8: we just don't have stuff to do. It's like so
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: I'm like, all right, let's get that wine bar popping.
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  Speaker 6: Don't let us know, man, we know for people out
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  Speaker 6: there too, So shout out to doing you know what,
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  Speaker 6: doing my god versus my enemies.
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  Speaker 5: You ever see those shirt? Yeah? Yeah, he.
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  Speaker 8: I gotta connect with him Salent, good.
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  Speaker 6: Dude, all right, my gosh, I appreciate y'all. Thank y'all
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: for waking up early. That says a lot too.
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  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:25:36
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• 1:25:45
  Speaker 8: Thank you, I appreciate it.
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