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- 0:46Hey there.
- 0:47Good morning.
- 0:48Today I wanna talk about a term that may bring you back to your graduate school days.
- 0:57I heard this term when I was, this was years ago, probably.
- 1:0215, 16 years ago now when I was taking on a, a master's level counseling student who was doing her field placement with me, and we met with the field liaison and the field liaison throughout this term, case conceptualization and clinical decision making.
- 1:23That's the other one, but case conceptual conceptualization.
- 1:27It's kind of a mouthful.
- 1:29And I remember thinking.
- 1:31Oh, I wanna know more about what you're talking about.
- 1:33And I think I know, and that is such an important term, and so I was kind of hooked from there thinking about it, because to me, I like structure.
- 1:44I like a little roadmap to know what's going on, how to formulate my.
- 1:51Um, understanding of what's going on with my clients because that's what helps me get them from beginning, middle, and all the way successfully to the end of treatment.
- 2:06And this is true in plea therapy as well.
- 2:09And so having some structure that will, um.
- 2:15Be like your roadmap and your way of understanding what's going on with your client to me is a really, really foundational and essential skill to have.
- 2:28Counseling in general, and in this case in play therapy.
- 2:33And so that's what I wanna talk about today.
- 2:36And one of the biggest mistakes that I see play therapists making, and I see it pretty regularly, which is what gave me the idea.
- 2:47I didn't see anything like this in the play therapy arena, like any of the play therapy trainings, and yet I know it's a foundational skill and I know from doing 15 plus years of supervision and consultation with play therapists that this is.
- 3:07Kind of, um, an essential thing that if you don't have it, you're gonna get lost.
- 3:14And that's one of the things I would see regularly, over and over, is that people that I was supervising, they would get kind of lost in the beginning and.
- 3:24They weren't sure which way to go or what to do, and they were, um, not even sure really what was going on with their client.
- 3:34They were kind of getting started doing the individual play therapy sessions without really taking the time to get that treatment process off to a good start.
- 3:49Formulate their case conceptualization, because that's also also gonna play a role in your clinical decision making.
- 3:59So if you're joining me live today, go ahead and post your name in the comments.
- 4:05I'd love to see who's here.
- 4:07Um, what population do you work with?
- 4:11What.
- 4:12What play therapy and expressive arts modalities are you using?
- 4:19And I would love to know if you, um, in any of your play therapy trainings or any of your play therapy, if you've already become an RPT, if you have.
- 4:33Had any training or courses and case conceptualization in play therapy.
- 4:40Um, so post that in the comments.
- 4:42Let's see who's here.
- 4:43I'm Kathy Spooner.
- 4:45I'm a licensed clinical social worker and a registered play therapist supervisor here in the United States, and I have been in the mental health field for over 30 years now, and my big passion.
- 5:00For being a mental health professional is to help children and adolescents and their families heal.
- 5:06That's what got me into the profession.
- 5:09And then back in the 1980s when I was a special ed teacher and I learned about this thing called play therapy, I thought, bonanza, that is it for me.
- 5:20And then I, uh, went on to get my master's degree, and then it took some time to find play therapy because.
- 5:26It wasn't really very accessible back then in the 1980s or in the early 1990s.
- 5:33So welcome Keisha.
- 5:35Working with, oh, you're getting your RPT, so Keisha's on Instagram, um, certification.
- 5:42Oh, you're in Maryland.
- 5:43So Keisha, I orig.
- 5:45So I'm in southern Nevada now here in the United States on the west coast, but I am from the east coast on the northern Virginia, Washington DC area.
- 5:56So that's awesome.
- 5:58I've been to Maryland many times, so that's cool.
- 6:00I always like connecting with, with people from the east coast.
- 6:04Um, yeah, so post your name and the comments.
- 6:08What population are you working with?
- 6:11I go live.
- 6:12I live stream every week on Instagram, LinkedIn, and in my uh, Facebook group for mental health professionals using plate therapy and expressive arts.
- 6:25If you're interested and you're on Facebook, it's called Play and Expressive Arts Therapy Playground.
- 6:32If you're a mental health professional using play therapy and expressive arts, and you wanna be in the group, it's a free group.
- 6:38You do have to answer every single question, though.
- 6:41If you don't answer all of the questions, then you're not gonna be admitted into the group.
- 6:47I see people regularly not answer all the questions, and it kind of kills me, and I, I used to message people and say, Hey, but then I never got a response, so.
- 6:57So now I just make sure I tell people, make sure you answer all the questions.
- 7:01Um, and I'm also live streaming on my Instagram channel platform.
- 7:07So welcome, welcome, welcome.
- 7:10If you find the information useful and helpful, please feel free to like it and share it across your social media if you're interested.
- 7:19And on LinkedIn, it's kind of hard to see any of the replays.
- 7:24Um, from previous livestream episodes.
- 7:28So if you're interested or you just like YouTube, you can pop over to my YouTube channel.
- 7:33All of the replays are on my YouTube channel.
- 7:37Kathy Spooner, renewing Hearts Consulting, and you just go into the live tab and all of the replays are there.
- 7:45If you're in my Facebook group, you can go into the featured section and all the lives are there.
- 7:53And it's pretty easy to find the replays on Instagram 'cause you just go into my little, what do you call that thing where you can see all my posts?
- 8:04Um, that's where you go.
- 8:06So, so let's get started.
- 8:08First and foremost, I would love to hear what are your questions about case conceptualization and what are your questions about how that applies?
- 8:19To play therapy.
- 8:21Like I said, this is not something I saw very often.
- 8:25Actually, I didn't see this anywhere when I was getting my credential for RPT back in the, um, early turn of a century.
- 8:36So if you have questions, post your questions, what are those?
- 8:40If you're joining me live.
- 8:42Go ahead and post your name in the comments.
- 8:45I'd love to see who's here.
- 8:46Where are you from?
- 8:47If you're watching the replays, go ahead post your questions.
- 8:52Where are you from?
- 8:53What po uh, population you work with, and we'll keep the conversation going.
- 8:57Okay?
- 8:58So first and foremost, so I, I did wanna say so on, if you're watching me on Instagram, I am gonna show some slides.
- 9:06Um, I use Streamy Yard to live stream directly into my Facebook group and, uh, LinkedIn and my YouTube channel.
- 9:16Um, you won't be able to see them on Instagram, but I'll make sure I describe them and, um, just so you can know what I'm talking about.
- 9:26Okay.
- 9:26So first and foremost, what.
- 9:29The heck is case conceptualization.
- 9:32Case conceptualization is a really fancy term.
- 9:36For, essentially you are gathering information from your clients, and this is, you wanna make sure you do this before you even get started doing play therapy.
- 9:49This is really that psychoso, that psychosocial.
- 9:53Uh, bio-psychosocial, spiritual cultural assessment that you do at the beginning.
- 9:59That one should take you back to your graduate school days.
- 10:02But you really wanna make sure you do that at the beginning because that's where you gather all of the information that you need in order to better understand what's going on with your clients.
- 10:15If you don't ask all of the questions, then you're not really gonna have a full understanding of.
- 10:23Probably what's going on with your client, because you're going to use that case formula, uh, case conceptualization, which is you gather all of the information in your bio-psychosocial, cultural, spiritual assessment, and then you're gonna analyze it and synthesize it to make sense of.
- 10:44Hmm.
- 10:45I think this is what's going on with my client because they meet all of the diagnostic criteria for this diagnosis.
- 10:55And so let me just say a little thing about diagnosis.
- 10:59I, I know there are lots of belief systems about di um, diagnosis, and I know I've heard from people say, oh, I don't do diagnoses or.
- 11:11I don't like doing diagnoses, so I give them the adjustment disorder because, you know, BA essentially diagnoses is, is not a good thing.
- 11:21I don't wanna label them.
- 11:23And then there are some who are kind of really strict that way.
- 11:27I fall in the camp of, we need to diagnose.
- 11:31I mean, if you were going to the doctor and you had some kind of thing going on with you, you would probably want a diagnosis to make sure your doctor was giving you the right medication.
- 11:42Like for example, if you went to the doctor and you had this really.
- 11:46Bad pain in your arm.
- 11:48You would wanna know if it's a broken arm or maybe a ligament.
- 11:53Those are two, two different things going on.
- 11:57Or you would wanna know if you've got some like internal, um, thing going on or some autoimmune disease you would wanna know because that diagnoses is gonna be linked to.
- 12:12Some treatment approaches.
- 12:14Um, and that's, that's why diagnoses is important.
- 12:19It's not the end all be all.
- 12:20I'm not in the camp where, um, you know, you have to pinpoint exactly to the right one because.
- 12:29Sometimes it takes it a little while to get to fully, it's like a, you know, like Shrek it, it's like an onion.
- 12:37You gotta peel it back in layers and you won't always know from the very beginning.
- 12:41But if you gather enough information in the beginning to formulate.
- 12:47Your working diagnoses in the beginning, you're gonna be staying in that information and assessment gathering mode throughout the treatment process because you may find out if, if you kind of get the initial presenting symptoms stabilized, you might find out, oh, there's something else that was actually feeding that we couldn't get at it until we got through that first layer of the onion, so to speak.
- 13:16So.
- 13:18Your, your gathering of the information helps you to figure out what's going on with your clients though, so you can then figure out what treatment approach you want to use, and that does come with the diagnosis.
- 13:33And diagnosis is important because it helps us align with certain treatment approaches that work best with that particular.
- 13:46Issue that your client is dealing with.
- 13:48And I'm gonna talk about that, um, in a, in, in a little bit.
- 13:53I wanna read who's here.
- 13:55Um, hey, I think I'm pronouncing it.
- 14:00Aya, you emailed me.
- 14:01I was so excited that you emailed me, um, oh, in South Africa.
- 14:06Thank you for this topic.
- 14:07Student psychologist, case conceptualization is an important area of focus and not I agree.
- 14:13I totally agree.
- 14:14And I was in South Africa back in 2008.
- 14:20It was one of, it was such an amazing trip.
- 14:23So I have like a gazillion.
- 14:25Because, uh, I was in, um, Johannesburg and the Cape Town area, and, and then we went to Kruger National Park as well.
- 14:33So it was a really, I went with social workers, actually, it was a hundred social workers.
- 14:38I would never travel with a hundred people again, and it was amazing trip.
- 14:42So.
- 14:43That's awesome.
- 14:44Uh, I, and I totally agree, which is why I, when I was thinking, because I do a lot of supervision now, consultation, and I have an online.
- 14:54Play Therapy, supervision, consultation group and program.
- 14:59It's called Play Therapy Academy.
- 15:01And in one of the things,'cause I've been supervising and consulting for about 15 years now, and what I realized is that when I'm supervising people, they don't really have some of these basic, basic case conceptualization.
- 15:18And what does that look like in play therapy?
- 15:21Foundation and so what I did in Play Therapy Academy.
- 15:26Is I have created a whole series of courses which are available if you're not in Play Therapy Academy.
- 15:33These are available just as the courses themselves, like, uh, it's a whole series called Getting Grounded in Play Therapy Excellence, and there are.
- 15:45Um, there's probably, I think there's gonna be like definitely five kind of mini courses in the train.
- 15:52You can buy each of them separately.
- 15:55All of these are gonna be available in Play Therapy Academy as part of the play kit, play Therapy Academy.
- 16:01I wanted to make sure.
- 16:03That these courses were available to everybody who needed them, whether or not you were in Play Therapy Academy.
- 16:09So that's why I did it this way.
- 16:11So the first course that's available now in that series is called Getting Grounded in Play Therapy Foundations.
- 16:19And that one really lays the groundwork of what is play therapy?
- 16:23What are the core skills that you need?
- 16:26What are some of the ethical and cultural considerations you need to consider?
- 16:30And then the next one in the series, which is coming out in March, is called Case Conceptualization in Play Therapy.
- 16:39That one is, I'm in the, um, middle of getting that one created and recorded and, and get it ready for people to purchase.
- 16:48Because I really think it's an important.
- 16:51It's an important topic and um, what I find when people take the time to really do that, case conceptualization, really gather all of the information, then what happens is they end up, and this is my next point, which is they get much better treatment outcomes.
- 17:14You know, one of the things that I've been finding, and I I always do a lot of research when I'm doing any of my.
- 17:20Um.
- 17:21Preparation for the courses.
- 17:23'cause I like to have the most up-to-date information.
- 17:27What is the research saying?
- 17:28And I like to put that in there.
- 17:30Um, so one of the things that I've been finding as I have been doing the research for case conceptualization and clinical decision making, because the second course is case conceptualization and we also.
- 17:46Look at clinical decision making in there is the different bias that we're all prone to bias.
- 17:55But here's one of the things that I found really, really interesting and I'm gonna, um, probably in the next couple of weeks, the, my live streams.
- 18:06I'm gonna do a little, I'm gonna talk about the, what the research has said.
- 18:11So some of the, excuse me, research that I found, I'm gonna.
- 18:15I talk about that in some of the upcoming livestream episodes.
- 18:20But, um, bias and overconfidence bias is for people who have been doing it for a while, play therapy and counseling.
- 18:29Um, with experience, they are much more prone to overconfidence bias.
- 18:35And that's basically, you kind of think you know what you're doing, so you don't really, um.
- 18:42Look at some of the details and the specifics or how it's working or not working you.
- 18:48And there there's a whole bunch of other kind of bias bias that is really important for us to think about.
- 18:55I think, I think, you know, as I've been reading through it, I've kind of realized, oh, I, I think I kind of.
- 19:01Do these things.
- 19:01I just didn't know there was a name for it.
- 19:03And reading through this, my thought was, oh, I, I can actually do better with this now that I'm even more aware of what it is.
- 19:11So I'm gonna put that one in my upcoming.
- 19:14Um.
- 19:16Upcoming training.
- 19:17Oh, okay.
- 19:18Say you're from Johannesburg.
- 19:19Yes.
- 19:20I had a really awesome time there, and actually when I was in Virginia on the East coast, uh, the church that I went to at the time was really multicultural.
- 19:30Um, we had 27 different countries represented.
- 19:33That was one of the things.
- 19:34But the pastors, um, are from Johannesburg and their kids, so that was really cool.
- 19:40I feel like I have kind of a tie to Johannesburg through that way.
- 19:44Um, really beautiful city.
- 19:46It's so beautiful.
- 19:47It was such an awesome trip there.
- 19:49Um, so one of the things that we need to think about when we are using case conceptualization, one, we have to be aware of the bias.
- 20:01Um, I think that's always a thing we have to keep in mind.
- 20:04Hey, Carla, I see you on um, Instagram.
- 20:08Welcome and, uh.
- 20:12The, the other thing is like, what do we do with the information is, uh, sorry, I got distracted chatting with Carla.
- 20:20Um, what do we do with that information?
- 20:23Well, in my mind we go into, um.
- 20:28Detective mode.
- 20:30So we're gathering the information, we're going into detective mode to better understand, okay, my clients are reporting these symptoms.
- 20:40What does that mean?
- 20:43So if, if you are watching me on, um, my YouTube channel, Instagram, I mean, um.
- 20:51Facebook or LinkedIn, you're gonna see my slides, but I'm, for those of you on Instagram, I'm gonna describe them to you.
- 20:59In my mind.
- 21:00When you are doing case conceptualization, you're rea, it's like a detective.
- 21:04You're like figuring out where all the data is, what they mean.
- 21:09You're kind of analyzing them and making sense of them and figuring out how does that apply to your clients?
- 21:18And one of the.
- 21:21One of the issues, if you're in play therapy and you work with children and adolescents, the likelihood you're gonna get kids on your caseload who struggle with emotion regulation problems is super high.
- 21:33Like you're gonna have.
- 21:35Quite a few clients, most likely on your caseload with emotion dysregulation problems.
- 21:42So here's the thing.
- 21:43They come in their, their parents are reporting.
- 21:48My child throws these tantrums.
- 21:51They can last anywhere from 10 minutes.
- 21:55To two hours or all day.
- 21:58And they get aggressive and they yell and they say mean things or they'll make these statements like, I'm gonna jump off the roof, or You just wish I was dead.
- 22:10All of these things are very alarming to their parents.
- 22:15And if they're, and I use parents and guardians kind of interchangeably.
- 22:20Um, 'cause some kids don't live with their.
- 22:23Biological parents or their adoptive parents, they may be in a different situation.
- 22:30So, so we have these that report.
- 22:32That's why they're coming.
- 22:33They're coming because they have these emotion dysregulation problems.
- 22:38But here's what we know.
- 22:39We know anxiety and depression can result in some emotion dysregulation problems.
- 22:46We know kids on the autism spectrum and kids who have sensory processing problems, they can get dysregulated.
- 22:54We know kids who've experienced traumatic experiences.
- 22:59They can get dysregulated.
- 23:01We know kids with A DHD who have executive function problems and emotion dysregulation is an executive dysfunction, uh, is an executive function.
- 23:14Thing.
- 23:14So if they're dysregulating, it might be part of that A DHD executive function, um, issue going on with them.
- 23:23We know could be oppositional defiant disorder or disruptive mood dysregulation disorder.
- 23:30We know kids who are of gifted intelligence.
- 23:33They may be.
- 23:34Struggling with anxiety, and that might result in some dysregulation.
- 23:39There are any number of things that can be.
- 23:45Underneath and causing this emotion dysregulation.
- 23:50And so one of the things that we're doing when we're doing our case conceptualization is asking all of the questions and getting all of the history to get a better sense of where are the roots?
- 24:02Like what's going on?
- 24:03What's causing this, where's this coming from?
- 24:07You know, when does it happen and why does it happen?
- 24:10So some of the things, so, so for emotion dysregulation, emotional vulnerability, we have autism kids on the autism spectrum, they struggle with cognitive inflexibility, social reciprocity problems.
- 24:24They can get overwhelmed by their sensory system.
- 24:28We know kids with anxiety disorder, they can have cognitive.
- 24:32Distortions that activate their fear.
- 24:35Like I've had kids say to me, um, this was years and years, like kids have said.
- 24:42A lot of these, I've heard multiple times from multiple clients, so it's not necessarily any one client that I'm talking about as much as I I, over the last 30 years, I've seen this a lot.
- 24:52Um, like some kids who have some kind of phobia, like they may worry, they walked by a table, it was like 20 feet away and there was.
- 25:02Cleaning solutions.
- 25:03Somehow it got in their mouth and now they're gonna die.
- 25:06Or they worry if they go to school while they're at school, their parent is gonna die, and then they're not gonna have anybody.
- 25:12And so they get dysregulated at school.
- 25:14They can't tolerate being separated from their parent.
- 25:17All of these things, um, can cause that emotion dysregulation.
- 25:25Um, so Carla says, when does it.
- 25:28Happen.
- 25:28How does it develop?
- 25:30What have you done?
- 25:31Yes, Carla, absolutely take care of this.
- 25:34What age?
- 25:34All of those things.
- 25:36Absolutely.
- 25:38Um, and Carla also says we also have to evaluate Yes.
- 25:42Parental competencies so we can do the, um, yes.
- 25:48The play therapy, kind of that environmental play therapy hypothesis.
- 25:53Absolutely, Carla, for sure.
- 25:56Um.
- 25:58And so we also have trauma.
- 26:00We know if their trauma gets triggered, that's gonna activate not being safe.
- 26:04Their, um, hypo arousal system is gonna be like off the chain.
- 26:09Their danger, danger, alarm alarms are going off.
- 26:13We know what depression could be.
- 26:15Sadness, some hope, irritability.
- 26:18Um, crankiness.
- 26:19Snappiness and also mood regulation.
- 26:23There can be some biological.
- 26:25Components for the mood regulation.
- 26:29And so if you know, especially with like emotion, uh, A DHD and autism spectrum, and we know that that can be overwhelming and they feel like they can't really control their body and they're always getting in trouble if they're a DHD.
- 26:45And the emotion dysregulation.
- 26:47People think their conduct disorder.
- 26:49I can't tell you how many times I have heard a little five-year-old get diagnosed with conduct disorder.
- 26:56Kind of drives me crazy because when you really go there and look, it's not conduct disorder, it the emotion regulation.
- 27:03Problem is probably coming from undiagnosed A DHD, or they might be on the autism spectrum.
- 27:11So these are, these are things we need to keep in mind, um, and when we're thinking about some of those biological components.
- 27:20We need to be thinking about executive function and that prefrontal cortex and higher cognitive functioning are involved with planning time, space management, cause and effect, problem solving, and the ability to stop and think.
- 27:37Some of this is age, like a five-year-old is not gonna be as.
- 27:41Um, proficient as maybe a 10-year-old or a 15-year-old.
- 27:45So you gotta think, like Carla was saying, those develop developmental things and also Carla said, yes, parental stress.
- 27:53Absolutely.
- 27:54The kids are like little sponges.
- 27:56They have to pick up on all of that.
- 27:58So that's some of the systemic stuff for sure.
- 28:01Um, any of that sensory processing, their little sensory systems are gonna get overloaded.
- 28:08If they're, um, if they're get kind of black and white thinking all or nothing, what's going on that they can't have some of that flexibility to shift.
- 28:18And we also know with kids who are in the gifted intelligence range that they have that asynchronous development meaning.
- 28:27They are chronologically one age, but maybe cognitively because they're much more advanced.
- 28:35If they're intellectually gifted, they may be maybe in second grade.
- 28:41But cognitively, they may be more like in third grade.
- 28:45So you got a little, uh, kindergartner or first grader doing kindergartner or first grade work, but their little brain can do third grade work or maybe even fourth grade work.
- 28:58They are bored out of their minds.
- 29:00Um, it's kind of hard.
- 29:01They get frustrated.
- 29:03It's really, you know, think about a job that I remember, a job I had, I just stood at the cash was when I was a teenager, stood at the cash register all day long and it was like a super duper slow store.
- 29:16It was like an eight hour day standing there doing nothing all day long.
- 29:20I. Thought I was gonna lose my mind.
- 29:23It's the same for kids who are gifted.
- 29:25They, and especially if they have some emotional intensity to them, that, um, these are all things that can be underlying and it's important to.
- 29:37Um, consider and do all of that information gathering in the beginning to really understand what's going on, because when you understand what's going on, that you're gonna be able to use interventions and a treatment approach.
- 29:55That's gonna help you get the results that you need.
- 29:58And one, like Carla was saying, yes, family.
- 30:01Um, we need to work with the whole family.
- 30:03Carla and I are totally in sync on this.
- 30:06We've chatted about this a few times.
- 30:08Actually, Carla took my training on family plate therapy.
- 30:12Um, oh, I think that was back in October, which is where we met, which was really cool.
- 30:16That was a live webinar.
- 30:17I did, I am gonna do that one again and I'm not sure when, in 2023.
- 30:22Um, that's exactly, we need to really understand systemically what's going on, and I, I am a huge proponent if your case conceptualization does not include looking at child in context.
- 30:38And working with parents and, and integrating parents into the play therapy process, then you've missed a big piece of what needs to happen, and that's part of that case conceptualization in my mind.
- 30:53When I'm conceptualizing what's going on with my clients, I'm also conceptualizing.
- 30:59How parents or guardians need to be involved and what is that gonna look like?
- 31:03And it, that decision making is how it changes over time.
- 31:07But all of those are really important.
- 31:10And if you skip that case conceptualization part.
- 31:14Then you are kind of operating without a roadmap and you're just kind of, um, doing things hoping they work.
- 31:22And sometimes they, they probably will work until you get a challenging case that's not super easy, then you're gonna be probably lost if you haven't gotten your case.
- 31:34You know, done that initial legwork of gathering all of the information.
- 31:40So that is it for today.
- 31:42Um.
- 31:44I am gonna do a little recap and then I'm gonna tell you a little bit about some of the courses, like I mentioned, play Therapy Academy and this Getting Grounded in Play Therapy.
- 31:53Excellent series that I have going on right now.
- 31:56Um, first and foremost, what is Case Conceptualization?
- 32:01It is essentially taking all of the information, uh, about, um.
- 32:08What's going on with your clients?
- 32:10Some of that social history you wanna make Sure.
- 32:13Um, gathering any cultural history, it's really important I think also to gather some of that spiritual history.
- 32:20'cause sometimes that might be part of the problem, but sometimes that might be a, a resource for the family.
- 32:27'cause during this case, conceptualization, we're identifying resources as well because we wanna.
- 32:34Help our clients access those and support those.
- 32:37And when you, when you take the time to do that information gathering and do that case conceptualization, then that plays into your treatment planning about what needs to happen, how it needs to happen.
- 32:53What kind of play therapy modalities are you gonna use?
- 32:56Who's gonna be involved in the treatment process?
- 32:59And then you lay out your plan in order to get started.
- 33:03The clinical decision making, which we didn't talk a lot about this time, and I'll, I'll, I'll talk about that in some upcoming lives, is how you kind of stay in, in detective, clinical detective mode throughout the change process and do that decision making as you go along.
- 33:21Um, so a Facebook user says, I had a look at your courses.
- 33:25Love to do them, like some guidance on how to become an RPT in South Africa.
- 33:31You know what, um, post, you can either message me or post in my Facebook group.
- 33:38I will get back to you and I'll, um, we can chat about that.
- 33:43Um.
- 33:44So that is it for today.
- 33:46If you found the information helpful, please liken it and share it across your social media.
- 33:51You can always find all the replays to my live streams and on my YouTube channel.
- 33:57I have a bunch there.
- 33:58Um, replays.
- 34:00On my YouTube channel, Kathy Spooner Renewing Hearts Consulting.
- 34:05If you're in my Facebook group, go up there in the featured section.
- 34:09You can find 'em all there.
- 34:10So I did wanna tell you about, I do have a series that I'm in the process of creating.
- 34:17I have the four first course already out.
- 34:21Um.
- 34:23Let me change my banners here.
- 34:25It's called Getting Grounded In Play Therapy Foundations.
- 34:29If these, these courses in the Getting Grounded in Play Therapy Excellence are all prerecorded, so they're self-paced online, take 'em when it's, uh, convenient for you in your own time zone.
- 34:43They have different modules where I have, uh, the lessons and videos, and then there's some experiential activities to do.
- 34:52In the training, if you want some association for play therapy, CE hours to either renew your registered play therapy credential or.
- 35:04Uh, get your RPT credential.
- 35:06These will count because I am an approved provider for a PT.
- 35:11Um, getting grounded in play therapy foundations is really just that.
- 35:15It is the history which I call the roots.
- 35:19Like know this is part of forming your professional identity as a play therapist as well.
- 35:24What are the roots of play therapy?
- 35:26How did we come to be the way we've come to be?
- 35:28Which also informs.
- 35:31The model itself and specific models, um, in play therapy.
- 35:37Play therapy is theory.
- 35:39It's grounded in theory and the theory informs how to apply it and how you help your clients access those therapeutic powers of play, which are the one of the foundational aspects of play therapy.
- 35:52So some of the histories, some of the.
- 35:54Core competency skills across all play therapy models, some of the ethics and things to consider cultural factors, including some practical things about setting up your playroom, explaining play therapy to parents.
- 36:10So if you're interested in that course, you can go over to my website at.
- 36:17Rrh counseling.com/courses.
- 36:21If you're on only Instagram, you can go, there's a link in my bio, or you could just hop over there to my website on the courses page and you'll see them there.
- 36:31Right now I also have Play Therapy Academy, which is my online supervision consultation.
- 36:38Group program and that one we meet twice a month for most month.
- 36:43We do live, uh, we do, it's live.
- 36:45We do um, uh, zoom meetings and we present cases and we staff them.
- 36:51We give feedback.
- 36:53We practice all of these skills and, um, in play Therapy Academy, these courses will be included in.
- 37:01Play Therapy Academy.
- 37:03If you're interested in that, you can uh, click over there on the supervision page or consultation page and you'll see a link where you can schedule a free 30 minute phone call, uh, video call with me so we can talk and make sure it's good for you and I can answer all your questions about it if you're interested.
- 37:23I'm also gonna put a link to the courses.
- 37:27And to play Therapy Academy to schedule that meeting with me.
- 37:31I'll put those in the comments.
- 37:33Below right now, the course that I have available is getting Grounded in Play Therapy Foundations coming up in March, and I'll announce this.
- 37:42If you're on my email list or on my social pages, you'll, you'll see it.
- 37:47All right.
- 37:47If you have any questions, feel free to post them in the comments and I will see you next week.
- 37:53Bye.
- 37:55Thank you for joining me on this episode of Next Level Play Therapy.
- 37:59I hope you found the discussion valuable and gained new insights and ideas to support your work helping children, adolescents, and families feel.
- 38:09If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to the podcast and leave a review.
- 38:14Your feedback helps to improve and reach more people who can benefit from this information.
- 38:20Remember, play therapy is a powerful tool for healing and growth.
- 38:25Whether you're a new play therapist or experienced, I encourage you to continue your learning journey to unlock the potential of play in your own work in relationships.
- 38:36If you have any questions or topics, suggestions for future episodes.
- 38:41I'd love to hear from you.
- 38:43Connect with me on social media and visit my website at Renewing Hearts Play Therapy Training to stay updated on upcoming episodes, trainings, and resources.
- 38:56Thank you once again for listening to Next Level Play Therapy.
- 38:59Until next time, keep playing, learning and growing.