Latest / None of Your Business Podcast / From Rebbe to Renovator: The Unbelievable Journey of David Mashinsky
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- 0:00I started off as a Rebbie. I taught in a Shiva Lakewood.
- 0:04I've lately been meeting a lot of rabbi coming to me and saying
- 0:07I'm a rebbie now and I'm going to burn out 10 years, 15 years
- 0:10and now I want to go into the workspace.
- 0:12What should I do? You're a Rebbie, You're a
- 0:14Rebbie. You're teaching kids, you know,
- 0:16you're making, I don't know, fifty, $60,000 a year.
- 0:19Don't understand that the only way to succeed is to go after
- 0:23your passion? Your passion is what drive.
- 0:26You follow your heart, do what you love.
- 0:27What we're doing. Yeah, this is this is our
- 0:29passion. None of your business, Oshi.
- 0:34None of your business, Michael. It's the None of Your Business
- 0:37podcast hosted by Michael Anoshi.
- 0:40I want to get right into that. I'm so honored that you're here
- 0:43with us. And it's really meaningful for
- 0:44me because I know your father and I know the impact that
- 0:47you've had on ECAP and just the industry as a whole.
- 0:50You're doing the right thing. You're branding yourself and
- 0:53you're getting out there. You're going out of your comfort
- 0:55zone, right? Look, I am to that and I just
- 0:59want to get started. Why don't we just go ahead and
- 1:01give us a quick introduction as to who you are?
- 1:03I just had to ask you for anybody listening, someone that
- 1:06doesn't know you, who are you? Where are you coming from?
- 1:08Why is guitar getting you more excited than design?
- 1:11What's happening here? So my name is Dovid Mashensky.
- 1:15Abe knows me as dirty, my friends.
- 1:18I started it off as a rabbi. I taught, I really taught in
- 1:22Union City and Closenburg, and then we moved to Lakewood.
- 1:25I taught in Asheva Lakewood. I told I'm teaching by close to
- 1:3020. I still go into class once a
- 1:33week. I go in and I play guitar with
- 1:34the kids. The kids beg to come back.
- 1:36It's like a treat if you did every single day.
- 1:38If they don't appreciate it, Once a week, Sunday morning, I
- 1:41go in for half hour, 45 minutes and we we set the tone of the
- 1:44week. We tone the week with the guitar
- 1:47and we tune it. And that's why I start my week
- 1:50every single week. And that's how they TuneIn.
- 1:52And that's what they TuneIn so. This is an elementary schools.
- 1:55Yes. What grade is this primary?
- 1:58Wow, this is like before olive bass.
- 2:00Olive Bass. This is olive.
- 2:01Olive bass, as a matter of fact, I used to teach the kids with
- 2:05the guitar. When you teach kids with music,
- 2:08it sticks. Yeah.
- 2:09What do you use to teach them when you explain that?
- 2:11Are we talking about first, second graders?
- 2:12I don't know. First graders primary olive bass
- 2:15right how many times could you teach a kid olive bass olive
- 2:18bass vice gimel Dallas and repeat the comments olive food.
- 2:21But will you sing it with us? All right, ABCDE it it sticks.
- 2:26You remember, of course, and it started about it was probably
- 2:291213 years ago. We were snowed in in Lakewood.
- 2:33This one on the podcast. Of course we've snowed in the
- 2:36Laker had a good friend that lived in the same development.
- 2:39Like he was single, not going to want it.
- 2:40And he asked me to, you know something I want to do something
- 2:44on my spare time. How about let's learn guitar?
- 2:46And there was another guy in development that knew how to
- 2:48play guitar and he just taught us the basics.
- 2:52And I found it very therapeutic. Very, it just was incredible.
- 2:55It was relaxing. And I started playing with it
- 2:58and I enjoyed it and I would take it, pick it up every once
- 3:00in a while. And then I bought it one day, I
- 3:02bought it into Qaeda 1 morning, I think it was Hanukkah.
- 3:05And I played with the children. And then I'm a little bit
- 3:08musical and I started playing with the children otherwise
- 3:12every single day. And those years that I taught
- 3:16with the guitar, I realized that that the kids were really
- 3:21picking it up much better. It's hard to create the
- 3:23teaching, yeah. That's so creative.
- 3:25It's creative and the children used to love it and hyped up and
- 3:28it made it so much more. I didn't go, it just went.
- 3:31What's your song? What's the song?
- 3:33If I want to learn the olive bass.
- 3:35Really. Is there like a Do you want me
- 3:36to teach you? Yeah.
- 3:36They don't have to teach us well, but it's a custom song
- 3:39that you made. Any song.
- 3:40Wait, wait a minute. Oh, you took Schleimer Kalabach
- 3:42song did. I do the olive bass.
- 3:45Then how do you teach? Give me one.
- 3:47We're not going to put this one on.
- 3:48Why you don't want it? It's.
- 3:49Uncomfortable. It doesn't want to sing for
- 3:50everybody. Yeah, I don't.
- 3:52Think fair. It's OK, we don't have to say.
- 3:53Because what? Because what?
- 3:54I'm just curious, why not? Michael, in your own spare time,
- 3:56you can hear his song. That I'm not comfortable with.
- 3:58You know what? I'm saying, yeah, OK, so you're
- 3:59saying. But, you know, something maybe
- 4:01we'll think about. It you started out as a rabbi
- 4:03full time, you were a rabbi. The kids imagine seeing Olive by
- 4:10you teach the kids. But the song different.
- 4:14And every day a different song and we change it up and we
- 4:17finally get a boy. We'd hype it up with a loose
- 4:18mess and with a guitar. You process it better in your
- 4:22head when you hear it in a. It sticks.
- 4:24Yeah, and that's why I. Know Ashrae, that's why I know
- 4:26benching, right? Yeah, comes with a tune.
- 4:28Yeah, it comes. With a comes, I know Elena.
- 4:29That's right. That's right.
- 4:31Very smart. And I realized that the children
- 4:33are really adapting. They're picking up much better.
- 4:35And those years that we talked with music, the kids, I could
- 4:39say almost every single kid was a success.
- 4:42Wow, Berkashem. How did you get into this design
- 4:44world? Then what happened?
- 4:45How did I get into design world basically?
- 4:48Talk about design. How did you get into the
- 4:49business? Right.
- 4:50That's also you're a rabbi, you're a rabbi, you're teaching
- 4:53kids. So you're making, I don't know,
- 4:54fifty $60,000 a year? 50-60 How about 20-30?
- 4:58Forty. Really.
- 4:59Yeah, times have changed. OK.
- 5:00Was it 20 years ago? No, 6-7 years ago, 5067.
- 5:04That's a discussion of itself. We got to figure out how the
- 5:05rabbi's. Yeah, how to stop earning a
- 5:07decent living, Yeah. There are people starting to
- 5:10make a difference. We notably surely rosel yeshiva
- 5:13Spring Valley paying people what their.
- 5:14Working Valley was always ahead of the game.
- 5:16They're setting the president for others to know that you need
- 5:19to pay for talent, otherwise they're not going to make it.
- 5:21They pay very well over there and people drive in from
- 5:23Lakewood to be a rabbi in Yeshiva Spring Valley.
- 5:26You're a rabbi, a very coveted job.
- 5:27You're ready to retire yet? Obviously.
- 5:29So what happened? No, I retired already at the
- 5:31Rabbi. I just go and.
- 5:32Just, I mean, as you were a rebbbie, how did you get into
- 5:34that? And I just want to say, we
- 5:35speaking about rebbies, everybody should know that
- 5:36rebbies are one of the most hard, the difficult jobs and the
- 5:39most unappreciated. Rebbies, if they have, they have
- 5:43to succeed, not only in discipline.
- 5:44The kids and the kids have to know.
- 5:46The kids have to come at the end of the year mastering whatever
- 5:48they taught. God forbid if if these kids
- 5:51walked out and they did not succeed, they're the talk of the
- 5:54town in every circle, every bungalow colony for what?
- 5:57For thirty, $40,000 a year. Yeah, it's crazy.
- 6:00Come to think of it, yeah, I think who was it that made a
- 6:03song that Benny Friedman made a song?
- 6:05I appreciate any Rebbe. Beautiful song.
- 6:07My daughter-in-law brought it up recently.
- 6:09She said that's one of her favorite songs.
- 6:11If only we'd appreciate our Rebbies.
- 6:13You trust them. It's about trust, by the way.
- 6:15You want your kids to succeed. You got to put your full trust
- 6:18in that Rebbe that he knows what they're doing.
- 6:20You got to appreciate. Their and by the way, we're
- 6:22paying a lot of money for tuition so I'm not sure why
- 6:25don't get paid more but. I listen.
- 6:28That's a story for another day, but.
- 6:30It's not every school that's pays high tuition just so you.
- 6:32Know yeah I guess in the cathedral schools they do charge
- 6:34a lot less tuition but they have a lot more kids they have a lot
- 6:37more volume but let's I digress let's go back to you so you were
- 6:40ready years. Ago, I used to love just to
- 6:43doodle around. I used to love to draw when I
- 6:46was a kid. I used to sit in class and do it
- 6:47a lot. Also, by the way, I used to draw
- 6:50a little. I used to like to draw
- 6:52architecture, still exteriors. I used to draw cities,
- 6:56buildings. I'll never forget one time I
- 6:58drew a whole whole city and I made a coil.
- 7:02I made a coil and it was like a 20 story building and my Rebbe
- 7:06came up with me asking what's this?
- 7:08I said that's a coil of future coils.
- 7:09I said, what? Every single younger mountain is
- 7:12going to get his own room. Is this on your Gabara like on
- 7:16the? Yeah, come on.
- 7:17The paper. On the paper on the inside.
- 7:19Yeah. We all used to doodle.
- 7:21Used to doodle on that. I would do the same Bart
- 7:23Simpson, to be honest. With you, Bart Simpson.
- 7:25Yeah, that's all we've got to talk about, Bart Simpson.
- 7:27Why? Back in the days.
- 7:28Yeah. The yellow guy.
- 7:29Yeah, the yellow guy. The yellow guy, Exactly.
- 7:33Bart Simpson, Michael, we're connecting.
- 7:36I'm missing what's going on over.
- 7:37Here, you know what, Bart Simpson?
- 7:38Is I am aware of Bart Simpson? Yes, Yes, Yes, yes.
- 7:41That's what we used to doodle on our Gamara.
- 7:42So. So you're drawing this as a
- 7:44young kid? How old were you when you're
- 7:45ready? Came over to you. 10/11. 1011
- 7:47you're drawing 20. Stories to hold the Gamora like
- 7:50this, I have to find that I probably have a stash somewhere
- 7:52in the attic like one of those boxes.
- 7:54Of so you had this passion early on already?
- 7:56You had this passion to be on and I kept enjoy.
- 7:57I used to draw like I used to love exterior like architecture.
- 8:01And I say about 20 years ago I was offered a position to
- 8:08someone. A good friend of mine offered me
- 8:09to draw this madrish and I did the architecture and that was a
- 8:16success story and. That was your first entrance
- 8:18into the. Space I worked with another
- 8:19architect and that one led to the next and I, I started just
- 8:22doing then we went into space planning and then I hooked up
- 8:26with some architect and it went on and on.
- 8:28But what ended up happening was it was very time consuming and I
- 8:31used to work Evening Times and even by recess, the children
- 8:35used to remember. I used to sit and draw because I
- 8:37didn't have enough time in my day.
- 8:39And eventually it LED someone. Mr. Rubin, Library room is not
- 8:44around the very spectacular person.
- 8:46Of course, library remember, I just know it was his first year
- 8:49site. My brother was doing a job with
- 8:51him and he gave me this opportunity.
- 8:55They were designing a nursing home in Brooklyn, 92nd Street.
- 8:59If I want to come into the healthcare, I thought what do I
- 9:01know about healthcare? There's so much regulations and
- 9:03I don't know nothing. And whatever it was, he pushed
- 9:05me to set up a meeting with him. He set up a meeting.
- 9:07I met them went on that night and I literally for two days
- 9:12straight, I sat at the computer and I designed them his lobby
- 9:17and his was it was a gorgeous, it was a gorgeous project, the
- 9:19interior, the interior. It was only the interior.
- 9:21I also did interior and I saw a doodled and I came back to him.
- 9:27He was blown away. That was my first project with a
- 9:30Fast forward. They had to open house and some
- 9:33of his partners, associates showed up and one guy came up to
- 9:38me that he has another job facility.
- 9:41He wanted to renovate it. It was in I think it was
- 9:43Rockland County. I was a second and with a
- 9:47challenge, but I noticed that people in the healthcare
- 9:51industry don't want to be busy with the architect.
- 9:54They don't want to be busy with the designer.
- 9:55They don't want to be busy with a contractor.
- 9:57They want to focus on one thing, on operating every single day on
- 10:02operations and this specifically, I asked me if I
- 10:06would do the construction. I have never done construction
- 10:08before. I can understand with them.
- 10:09We hired a outsourced to somebody else and it was a
- 10:14couple of months later Mr. Room had another project.
- 10:17Then he asked me if I could do it and then I took upon my first
- 10:20project. I hired my own contractor.
- 10:24So you're doing this on your own?
- 10:25This is your own company. I started on my own.
- 10:27I had I drew the plans on my own.
- 10:29I was one man band. I hired the contractor.
- 10:32I was a Rebbe, basically. This was my first opportunity.
- 10:36It was just like I was. Ruben referred.
- 10:39You to somebody else, you referred to somebody else.
- 10:41Rockland County and that waves. Correct.
- 10:43You started making waves and then Ruben called me back.
- 10:45It was the first design, built design with construction.
- 10:48And it was in Queens. It was a small little dining
- 10:50room. It was like not a large scale
- 10:51job, but you got to always practice the small jobs.
- 10:54That's where you you get grip traction.
- 10:56And I was a Rebbe at the same time.
- 10:58You talking about this going back by 15 years ago and I
- 11:01designed the space and I hired a contractor.
- 11:05I did not have a site manager at that point.
- 11:07I was doing everything myself and I did the purchasing and I
- 11:12had to do the billing, the invoicing and everything.
- 11:14But I realized that's when I learned every single aspect.
- 11:18And even though I didn't appreciate all the little nitty
- 11:22detail, today I'm much more into sales, which I really
- 11:24appreciate. I'm a people's person.
- 11:26I don't have the patience to sit by the computer and design even
- 11:28I could. I understand to this, but that's
- 11:32where I really got to know every single part of the business and
- 11:37from there we kept on fine tuning and I'll be honest,
- 11:39nobody even heard of us till probably a couple years ago.
- 11:42I did not want to come out in public till I really understood
- 11:46it and developed the feeling and grafted and connected with it
- 11:51and understand what works or what doesn't work.
- 11:53I would say the first time people started hearing about
- 11:56dynamic on the larger scale was in 2019.
- 11:59So I started in 2011 till 2019 we.
- 12:05Were low key or low? Key, we're not Russia.
- 12:06I used to show up to the shows, the Atlantic City.
- 12:09The first time I came to ECAMP was four years ago.
- 12:11Noble Kim, Muchi Newman, May singer, Freddy Friedman.
- 12:14They were the ones that introduced us.
- 12:16I think they're partners with Hershey.
- 12:17I don't know, maybe that's maybe not.
- 12:18I mean, I think so. They're affiliated.
- 12:20Affiliated. They started off with Hershey
- 12:22and they made the introduction and we'll get to ECAP later that
- 12:25little Fast forward. But we developed over the years
- 12:31a lot of connection with a lot of contract, a lot of
- 12:33contractors and till we built our own infrastructure, our what
- 12:40we mean to take advantage is that we have everything in house
- 12:44and that's what our clients appreciate.
- 12:47About all on the one roof. All on the one.
- 12:48Roof, the design, the construction, the supplies
- 12:52you're doing all management that they're outsourcing the entire
- 12:55thing to you. Exactly.
- 12:56If anybody, if anyone has a problem, there's one person to
- 12:59call. That's Dodi Machinsky.
- 13:01And the biggest challenge when you have a design and something
- 13:04that I really tapped into and I mastered and I, I realized the
- 13:09biggest challenge that design with construction is a little
- 13:12bit of a clash, right? The designers are very detail
- 13:16oriented, They're artsy, they're not fast moving, right,
- 13:20Methodical, They get stuck, they get stuck.
- 13:23The contractors, they got to move, right?
- 13:25And this is a big issue that people, when they build anything
- 13:28residential, they get it. It clashes all the time when
- 13:31you're running a facility and you're busy with operations and
- 13:34marketing and getting your patience and everything and
- 13:37what? Ends up I I had the good fortune
- 13:39I I built a house and I remember now the designer and the
- 13:44contractor were always fighting. With you they it was neck to
- 13:46neck. They were always like it was,
- 13:48they were clashing and they just, I couldn't understand it,
- 13:51but they were just always butting heads.
- 13:54They're butting heads because the designer has their
- 13:56reputation. They want to make sure it's
- 13:57perfect and the contract has one thing I got to deliver, I got to
- 14:01finish. You know what I'm saying?
- 14:02You. Designed it the wrong way.
- 14:03I can't do it like. This way, and, and if he ordered
- 14:05the wrong thing and it didn't work out, they're always butting
- 14:08heads. And that is the reason,
- 14:10especially in healthcare, they want to make sure you take take
- 14:14the whole thing and take care of it.
- 14:15Yeah. By the way, you just know that I
- 14:18noticed that you're embarking on this journey already last year
- 14:21at ECAP West and I saw that you were noticing that building your
- 14:25brand is not just about the company and what you're doing,
- 14:28it's also about the person behind the company.
- 14:30The image, the image, your story, your.
- 14:32Story People like people connect the people.
- 14:35Yeah, at the end of the day, no matter how nice your design is
- 14:37and your logo and your slogan and your mission statement.
- 14:40You mean I'm a connector? Ultimately, we're all connectors
- 14:44and people want to do business with people that you know, we
- 14:47said it here, you trust, right? You want to build that trust.
- 14:49So I think that what this does is also opens that idea to, OK,
- 14:53who are you? People can listen to you, people
- 14:55can listen to this in a year from now.
- 14:56You say you want to know a little bit about me, who I am,
- 14:58listen to the podcast. And then it's a little bit of a
- 15:00way to showcase who you are. So it makes a bigger impact.
- 15:03And just also going through the story, you think of things that
- 15:05like, oh, this would help somebody else.
- 15:07And that's something that I really want to get to because I
- 15:09could tell you that I do a lot of, I would say career guidance
- 15:12for people. And I've lately been meeting a
- 15:15lot of Ravan and a lot of people that are coming to me and saying
- 15:18I'm a Rebbe now and I'm going to burn out.
- 15:20There's a certain burnout period, 10 years, 15 years.
- 15:23And now I want to go into the workspace.
- 15:25What should I do? And it's such a common question.
- 15:28How do you get into that? So I'm curious what your take
- 15:30would be to people that are starting off in any business,
- 15:32even forgiven your background, like knowing what you know now.
- 15:35Over the year, you said you built up the infrastructure for
- 15:37five, 6-7 years. Then you noticed, OK, now it's
- 15:40time to go to the market. You built your infrastructure,
- 15:43the construction, the people, all under one roof, the network,
- 15:45the network, the system, right? What would you tell people who
- 15:48are listening to this and saying, you know, what should I
- 15:49do going into the business? So we had meaningful when he was
- 15:52walking around, this is one of his things they were asking
- 15:54people and it became a very special social media.
- 15:56What do you do for a living? What device and who am I
- 15:58thinking of Advice. There's so many big guys
- 16:00overhead advice. But I can say a little thing
- 16:02that I really tapped into myself.
- 16:03Yeah, it's a very good question. So he's speaking about rabies.
- 16:06My, my son, he's still in my oldest son and people ran after
- 16:11him. I figured his father's a Rabby,
- 16:13his grandfather's a Rabby. So apparently maybe he'll be a
- 16:15great Rabby. And I'm not encouraging to do
- 16:17unfortunately, because unfortunately he eventually is
- 16:21going to suffer burnout, you understand?
- 16:24And what is his chances of trying to earn a living on the
- 16:28side long term? You're talking about today a
- 16:30family you don't pay quite $1,000,000 a year.
- 16:33You're done, correct? That's a whole conversation of
- 16:36itself. I could say with my journey,
- 16:41like I said earlier, I enjoyed drawing, I enjoy architecture, I
- 16:44enjoyed it and my our company dynamic turned into enterprise.
- 16:50We I broker sham. We have we had a major impact in
- 16:53the healthcare industry. What I would say people going
- 16:57out there, people get very quickly inspired.
- 17:00They they get excited for the flashy stuff.
- 17:02This person is doing healthcare, this person is buying nursing,
- 17:05or this person is in the hotel business, this person is in the
- 17:08multifamily. And people don't understand that
- 17:13the only way to succeed is to go understand and go after what
- 17:18your passion is, what drives you.
- 17:20Now, even though I enjoyed architecture, even though I
- 17:23enjoyed design, not that I'm that I'm a great designer.
- 17:28I understand the scale, I understand, I understand design,
- 17:31but the depth of it, I leave it up to the staff and the office.
- 17:35They do. They're doing an incredible job,
- 17:37but I enjoyed connecting and I enjoyed the sale.
- 17:39I I understand construction, I understand all these little
- 17:44aspects. I appreciate it.
- 17:47Take a pause. Take a pause with.
- 17:48The both worlds, by the way, best of both worlds you have,
- 17:52you're passionate about people in general and I find that a
- 17:55lot, by the way, a lot of people are passionate about dealing
- 17:57with people and they're OK. What business should I go into?
- 18:00We're extroverts. We're extroverts.
- 18:01We get out there and we appreciate, we meet people and I
- 18:05believe in our product. I think we really put together
- 18:09an incredible product and what I feel is every single person, if
- 18:15they tap into their potential, into their passion, if they tap
- 18:18into what they like the most, you could sell anything.
- 18:21You could really sell anything. It comes natural if you're not
- 18:23passionate about it and you're not confident about it.
- 18:27People see through it very quickly.
- 18:28People, people could see through if you're really passionate
- 18:31about what you're selling or if you're just trying to sell them
- 18:34something as a it's transactional.
- 18:36It's not something that is personal to you or people can
- 18:39tell. And that's the the best
- 18:41technique to sell is sell yourself.
- 18:44It doesn't matter what it is that you're selling.
- 18:45There's a lot of people that do what you do.
- 18:47There are a lot of people in your space.
- 18:48Everybody can do that. But who are you?
- 18:50That's what they want to really connect with, right?
- 18:52That's the most important thing. But let me ask you today, you,
- 18:54you've obviously built a really big business.
- 18:57You've gotten a lot of recognition, you're getting more
- 18:59popular and you're doing big flashy things.
- 19:02When you come to shows like this at ECAP, you're one of the elite
- 19:05sponsors here. I think you hosted the welcome
- 19:07party, I think, right? Welcome Bash.
- 19:09The welcome bash exactly. And it's like the opening
- 19:12ceremony. So that's always one of the
- 19:14highlights here. Are you finding that these kind
- 19:17of what is the biggest thing you try to get out of a conference
- 19:19when you come with your business?
- 19:21Is it to pick up new clients? Is it to meet existing clients
- 19:23and catch up? Is it just to put your name out
- 19:26out there so you're top of mind for people?
- 19:28What is your objective when you come to a conference?
- 19:30I believe all of you know, when you come to these conferences,
- 19:33especially I remember the first time I went down, the first
- 19:35conference I attended with in Atlantic City.
- 19:37What's the name of that conference over there?
- 19:38You've gone down there. H can H can the.
- 19:40Zoom it over there. Also used to do it over.
- 19:42There, I'll never forget the first time I showed up.
- 19:44And like I said, we're connectors.
- 19:48I was struggling. It's very hard.
- 19:50You come, who am I? I couldn't even say who I am.
- 19:53You're uncomfortable. I am dynamic.
- 19:55I'm a rabbi, by the way, talking about Mr. Ruben, Libel Ruben.
- 19:57I'll never forget the first time I met him.
- 19:59He was sitting with bankers, with his partners.
- 20:02And I showed up like a couple of minutes late to the meeting.
- 20:05I showed up a couple minutes late to the meeting, and I felt
- 20:09the pressure and I tried to explain to them.
- 20:11I finished class 1:30 and I ran. I almost had my jacket on.
- 20:16In my Rebbe jacket, I was ready. And what was amazing about him
- 20:20is he made me value myself. Rebbe's.
- 20:24Oh yeah. He, he couldn't do anything
- 20:25else. So he became a Rebbe.
- 20:26He validated. He validated and he told his
- 20:28partners. You know who this person is?
- 20:29He's an excellent designer and he's a Rebbe.
- 20:32He's a Rebbe. He lifted you up.
- 20:33He lifted me up and he gave me that confidence.
- 20:35Yep, he gave. He's an incredible person in
- 20:37that way. He was a very humble person,
- 20:39Very humble person and I always appreciate it.
- 20:42I. Hope any leader in any industry
- 20:44who's listening to this, yes hears this first hand from us,
- 20:47yes that they have such a power to build people up.
- 20:51People like you and me and you or she that have been to trade
- 20:54shows, conferences for our first time.
- 20:56Even if we're extroverts, even if we enjoy the power of people
- 20:59and the good energy, it's not easy to go out there and.
- 21:01Talk not easy people struggle. One of one of the people with my
- 21:05one of my close friends high angle, he makes it a mission by
- 21:08every single conference to take one of these people that are
- 21:13starting out and they're very uncomfortable and he walks them
- 21:16around and we were by the Bina show.
- 21:19You remember it was in Bellwood and he took his time and it was
- 21:22a guy that was starting out that he started like a newspaper
- 21:26company. One of these weekly things that
- 21:28come out and that's the guy was trying to connect and he was on
- 21:30the side and he spent a couple $1000 to go in and he made a
- 21:33couple of introductions. It's so important because you
- 21:35always got to remember Maine Buster from where did you come
- 21:38from? We were also struggling once, so
- 21:41we got to appreciate it. That's really nice to to see
- 21:43that. And you're right, it's very
- 21:45people get anxious when they come to events.
- 21:47Like there's a lot of people. So the anxiety kicks in a little
- 21:50bit and people are very afraid of rejection.
- 21:52They don't want to walk over to someone and they don't get the
- 21:55response that they and hoped for and they get a little bit down
- 21:58on themselves. Then they just recoil.
- 22:01They go into the background and and the rest of the show is
- 22:03unproductive for them. And it's that's really sad.
- 22:05And the art is to learn how to accept that rejection and just
- 22:10understand the next person's gonna be different.
- 22:11Not everybody's the same. You'll be surprised how many
- 22:13nice people there are around over here.
- 22:15I'm actually always impressed a lot of people that are very
- 22:18successful, and I've been in the industry for a long time, Very
- 22:21approachable. And when you award them, they
- 22:23actually smile at you and they're here to give you
- 22:25attention. That's why they're here.
- 22:26They're not here to do their own thing and blend in.
- 22:29Otherwise they'll stay at home. They're OK to mingle.
- 22:31They're OK with it. And if people just attempt more
- 22:34and they don't just give up after it once or twice and they
- 22:38push through, good things will. Happen.
- 22:40It's very important for all those people out there, they're
- 22:42starting out, they get intimidated and they're all
- 22:44wonderful people and they have to understand all these
- 22:47operators they have set up literally back-to-back meeting
- 22:50with bankers. They're also on the enormous
- 22:52amount of stress. So you have to also give.
- 22:53Them, their space they're trying to accomplish.
- 22:55Give them their space and just give me that time and just keep
- 22:59on pursuing, keep on pushing this.
- 23:00Project you ever worked on, by the way, Michael.
- 23:02Would you believe me? That was literally the question
- 23:03That was just on my mind. The next question, OK,
- 23:05Literally. We're like a married.
- 23:06Couple yeah, like I I feel like we'd be we'd be we miss if we
- 23:09didn't ask this question. We want to get the gossip now by
- 23:12the way, we need the gossip now. What was the?
- 23:15Like I like I was expecting. I'm gonna, I have to say.
- 23:17How much money did you net this? Year.
- 23:19I'm not gonna ask you that. I didn't.
- 23:20Expect that he's gonna see this I'm.
- 23:22Not gonna ask you that question. What is the most dynamic project
- 23:26that you've done to dates? The most dynamic project that
- 23:29really stands out that you're super proud of.
- 23:32The most dynamic project we're bidding on projects, huge ground
- 23:36up projects now. You took my projects that are
- 23:37$50 million projects. When we started out, like I
- 23:40said, we started from a little dining room, Brock Hashem.
- 23:42It expanded and our clients really gained our trust because
- 23:46we have the ability to do anything.
- 23:48Today, our biggest challenge was we have a client complete get
- 23:52Schellemstein. Everybody knows he's fun.
- 23:55We vibe very good together. He gave us a project in a
- 24:00backyard in New Jersey in Somerset, NJ.
- 24:02It was a facility that was flooded 3 years ago that they
- 24:06had a flood right before us. Hashanah exactly.
- 24:10It was just three years ago, 3 plus years ago, and that place
- 24:12had to evacuate it. The whole Central Jersey was
- 24:15flooded. Remember that one?
- 24:17That big one? That big flood?
- 24:18I do remember that was when I got stuck at the US Open when
- 24:21they had that crazy flood that came out of nowhere.
- 24:23Also nobody saw it coming out of nowhere.
- 24:24It happened very quickly it. Was a Thursday night?
- 24:27Yeah. Or the Thursday night was a
- 24:28downpour, like 5:00 or 6:00, people stranded on the Turnpike.
- 24:31Me, I was caught in that rainstorm.
- 24:33I was actually at an event and then it started raining like
- 24:36crazy and real something's happening.
- 24:37So we got into our car. By the time I got to my car,
- 24:40there was a foot of water. I opened my door and the water
- 24:43flooded and that's how high the water was.
- 24:44Already took me 4 hours. It's a 40 minute drive, normally
- 24:4835 minute drive. It took me 4 hours to get home.
- 24:50Everything was closed. There were cars that were
- 24:52stopped at the middle of the road.
- 24:53It was a mess. My sister was stuck on the
- 24:55Turnpike all night. It could.
- 24:56Yeah, it was a disaster. It was.
- 24:58Something and they never called it out.
- 24:59They never wanted it, but they didn't forecast it.
- 25:01The people, the weather people had no idea it just happened.
- 25:04No idea by the. Way it gets me frustrated.
- 25:06Every Yeah. How did they miss that?
- 25:07They call themselves Doctor Meteorology Dr. can get it wrong
- 25:10every day and keep your job. It's very.
- 25:11Frustrating. Very frustrated.
- 25:14Trump should fire them. Fired.
- 25:18Elon Musk was probably fired them already.
- 25:21They're not through. Their jobs are getting fired.
- 25:23That's the bottom line. What they do that terrible?
- 25:25That terrible? Yeah, that terrible.
- 25:27You know why, right? Because God runs the world.
- 25:29He's laughing at them every day. Oh, you think it's going to rain
- 25:31for injury? By the way, we benefit from
- 25:33that. Yeah, not only that facility was
- 25:35evacuated, did the most incredible job.
- 25:36They evacuated the whole facility and it was vacant for a
- 25:39couple of years. Imagine, by the way, having a
- 25:42nursing home with patients and suddenly is a flood.
- 25:44You're getting frustrated of your car, your fancy car.
- 25:47They have to get it to get home. Sponsor page liability.
- 25:51EKG machines and MRI machines and.
- 25:54They just said Yossi Wine got in his whole, they went down his
- 25:57CEO, his biggest staff, everybody went down there and
- 26:00they were literally just. They're Wheeling people out of
- 26:02the building. Wow.
- 26:04And that's a big building. Somerset, if I remember
- 26:06correctly, it's a big compound. It's a big piece of.
- 26:08Property, it's 180 bed, 75,000 square foot facility.
- 26:12Anyways, he gave us the opportunity.
- 26:14We started this project approximately a year ago.
- 26:17We took a break in middle for whatever reason we delivered
- 26:21from soup to nuts. You took my most seamless
- 26:22project, a brand new building, interior, exterior, landscaping,
- 26:26out to the pond you're talking about.
- 26:29We did the laundry room, new kitchen, everything.
- 26:32Generators. We did it.
- 26:33In six months, we delivered something.
- 26:34We had about 103 workers with Subs on site with one guy, one
- 26:40GC operating that project. That seems like really quick.
- 26:43It was one of our most and it was a lot of fun.
- 26:46What about the furniture inside the building?
- 26:48Everything. From so literally soup to
- 26:50everything it's move in condition.
- 26:52I'll show you. I'll show you the picture with.
- 26:53Beds with everything. Brand new that we happen to
- 26:56have, we made like a building completion event couple of weeks
- 26:59ago and I flew in from Cincinnati straight to that
- 27:02event and I was the first they had like shower rooms.
- 27:05It was literally like almost like a five star hotel.
- 27:08I took a shower over there. I freshened up over there.
- 27:10I take advantage of facility. As a matter of fact, we board
- 27:12and caterers. We catered in the we're the
- 27:13first ones to use that plate. It's brand.
- 27:16So usually when you come in with the biggest challenge, when you
- 27:18come into facilities, they'll only give me like the resident
- 27:20rooms, they'll give me the lobby, They'll give us, it's us.
- 27:23They'll give us to do the lobby, they'll give us to do the car.
- 27:25They'll have to constantly practice.
- 27:27Not me, it's us, right? It's our company.
- 27:29By the way, Shalimstein, this was one of the things I
- 27:32mentioned one time and I said it's mine.
- 27:34And they said nothing. You forget get used to saying us
- 27:36ours this. We and us.
- 27:38We and us, you know, also see this.
- 27:39You guys, it's me. We're great.
- 27:41You're not polished in that way. We're talking about those big
- 27:43projects you finished from soup to nuts, everything in six
- 27:46months. That's unbelievable and. $50
- 27:48million. Project no, that was, that was
- 27:50that turned out to be like a $16 million.
- 27:53That wasn't your biggest. Deal our biggest project that we
- 27:57live in a one shot. Now what was spectacular about
- 28:00that specific project was usually our clients would call
- 28:02us in They they have enough capital, they have enough money
- 28:05just to renovate your resident rooms.
- 28:08They give us little sections and the hottest challenge is to make
- 28:12a beautiful building and everything be uniform and flow.
- 28:15We had a blank canvas. We delivered a beautiful project
- 28:20and it was uniform. It all flowed 1 into the other,
- 28:23every single. You did it all at once.
- 28:25All at once and it's just gorgeous.
- 28:26It's gorgeous and I really appreciate it.
- 28:28It had a lot of. I would love to see you too.
- 28:30I would send the I'll send you. This, it's got to be very
- 28:32gratifying for a guy like this. They're putting a lot of hard
- 28:34work, his whole team, and then they show up there at the date
- 28:37when it's all ready for people to move in and you're looking
- 28:40around like your heart must be. Quelling.
- 28:42I can't get enough of it. Yeah, I mean honestly.
- 28:44And that's all the motivation you need to keep going and do
- 28:46the next. One because, by the way, first
- 28:47of all, I appreciate design. I appreciate architecture and I
- 28:50appreciate when the customer's happy, and I also appreciate
- 28:53when the customer should be successful.
- 28:55They got to fill up those buildings, and they really have.
- 28:56Feel very nice. They'll fill it up.
- 28:58Yeah, they'll fill it. Up nice there, no.
- 28:59It's very simple. Their success is, of course,
- 29:02when they're happy, I'm happy. Yeah, who's got the nicest
- 29:05building that you've ever seen, whether you did it or didn't do
- 29:07it, But who's which nursing home specifically have you been to?
- 29:10That's like great question. Amazing because they're not
- 29:13known nursing homes for their life pristine and their their
- 29:15aesthetics. They're not owners, but they're
- 29:17happy they're getting there. It's happening now.
- 29:19More and more people are modern. Again, I don't, I really don't
- 29:22understand in the marketing side of the nursing homes.
- 29:25I just I focus on what I got to do.
- 29:27And as a matter of fact, I'll encourage our clients, I'll
- 29:29cause our customers to not to spend so much because they don't
- 29:33even understand. They feel the more they spend,
- 29:34the better it's going to be for marketing.
- 29:36And I say you don't always have to spend that much money.
- 29:38You got to spend. Smartly you got to spend,
- 29:40smartly you got to be practical. It's all about just giving that
- 29:43good faith fresh, a fresh facelift.
- 29:46One of the most magnificent projects.
- 29:48We do it. And as a matter of fact, we're
- 29:50now working on planning in Riverdale.
- 29:54It's one of I think Laser China's facilities.
- 29:56It's going to be a beautiful project.
- 29:57We built there rehab, a gym. It was $1,000,000 project.
- 30:02Wow, just the gym, just the gym. It's beautiful that it was with
- 30:06a Chapel or church or something. It was 60 foot ceilings,
- 30:09cathedral ceiling, cathedral ceilings.
- 30:10And we were able to transform that literally into its IT was
- 30:14it's a magnificent project that was one of our but it's they're
- 30:18catering for a very scaled crowd you.
- 30:20Know Keiride has a building in the city where they had a crane
- 30:23and they picked up. Riverside.
- 30:24Riverside. And they put a car into the
- 30:27rehab department. Really.
- 30:29Mackie Land out there. I've seen cars and rehabs
- 30:31before. I've seen that, yeah.
- 30:33You just say that one of the competitors is a good friend of
- 30:35yours. I.
- 30:36Just Michael Landau is one of my, yeah, very close friend.
- 30:38Yeah. No, I like hearing that.
- 30:39But and you guys do similar work, we do similar services.
- 30:42Mackie Land is in the business way before for me.
- 30:44Oh wow. We first of all, we're both
- 30:46close, America, see them. We're both close, America.
- 30:48See them. Their whole family is amazing by
- 30:50the. Way I love spend.
- 30:52Mackie Land is an amazing person.
- 30:53I love spending time with him. Ellie.
- 30:55Ellie, My brother Ellie. In the industry.
- 30:57Yeah. Delicious.
- 30:57Yeah, Ellie's delicious. Mackie.
- 31:00Mackie's a great guy. So Mackie did a carride
- 31:03building. I also had a project we did for
- 31:06Ben Kurland. It was a Mars view.
- 31:07Also, we lift up with a crane to get onto the 2nd floor Little
- 31:11Mini Cooper. Nice.
- 31:12Yeah, those, those are captions. Great idea.
- 31:14Somebody couldn't carry that in his backpack up.
- 31:16The stairs just thinking for the forward thinking ideas of
- 31:19rehabilitation. Yeah, but you want to know what
- 31:21it's like to get back in a car. Yeah.
- 31:22And I've seen these facilities where they have kitchens just to
- 31:26get them used to cooking. Breakfast that's very practical
- 31:28so they get them back to daily functions.
- 31:30If I'm a nursing home owner and I have $100,000 to spend on
- 31:35something to rehabilitate my building to make that. 100,000
- 31:38Giveaway You want to know that's what you're getting?
- 31:40At I don't know what giveaway you're talking about.
- 31:41What giveaway? That's what he wants to get that
- 31:43brand Brandy. But by the way, I really like
- 31:45this. Question, Yeah, I'm curious
- 31:46because if I'm like right now, I have a little bit of capital.
- 31:48I have an extra cash. I got about 150 grand.
- 31:51I don't have. I don't have an absorbent amount
- 31:53of money. I understand my building is not
- 31:54going to get revamped with that, but what can I do?
- 31:57What are some of those basic things you would guide someone
- 31:59to spend that money on to make a difference in your building?
- 32:04It's a good question. I try to guide our clients, our
- 32:09customers how to spend their money wisely.
- 32:13It's very interesting. I have two clients that have
- 32:16facilities and it's a challenge sometimes literally up the block
- 32:21from each other. I'd say maybe 3 miles away.
- 32:23And 1 of this is one specific client had it's a magnificent
- 32:26building and the other one is OK.
- 32:28And the other one, the one that's OK is successful.
- 32:31And the one that was successful, it's just because the care is a
- 32:34little better. The marketing is a little
- 32:36better. It's I'm going to add a town
- 32:37facility. It's a little, it's just they
- 32:40really put a lot of emphasis in the care.
- 32:42And again, maybe I'm. No, that is the right message.
- 32:46It's. It's a right 100%.
- 32:47You could have the nicest facility in the world as.
- 32:49You're saying don't necessarily spend the money to repaint the
- 32:51building. It's if you put it in the they.
- 32:53Have to hustle it. They have to, really.
- 32:55We get it, but I'm going back to she's questions.
- 32:57I really like it. You have 100 grand.
- 32:59It's a gift. You have to spend it.
- 33:01Only on capital that you got to spend it on your building.
- 33:03Your cat is amazing. Another thing.
- 33:05Else, what are you doing? What is your opinion based on
- 33:07your experience? Where should that money go?
- 33:08First impression, the lobby, the lobby, the lobby, the lobby.
- 33:13If again, I always tell the clients, you come into the lobby
- 33:16from there, you go into the corridors from there you get to
- 33:18the resident room. You have to sell it to the
- 33:20parents or the family by the time they get to the resident
- 33:22room and that's the biggest ticket price because the
- 33:24resident is a lot of real estate over there.
- 33:26By the time they get there ready, they should be sold
- 33:29already. Interesting, very smart first
- 33:31impression. Yeah.
- 33:32Smart. Yeah, so you want to make the
- 33:34hallways nice, the main areas, the public you.
- 33:36Want to get into your branding? So I want to talk about it.
- 33:38The batteries that you give are amazing.
- 33:40You figured out an item that people need at trade shows, of
- 33:42course, to reduce your phones. That's great.
- 33:45You recently did something with Nachi Gordon, a good friend of
- 33:47ours that's been on our podcast. You did the opening bash.
- 33:50Tell us about that. So it's very simply asked about
- 33:52the battery pack for years. I'm coming to these shows and
- 33:56I'll ask you which company had the biggest impact from the
- 34:01Jewish companies had the biggest impact in the healthcare shows
- 34:05when it came to branding. I'll put you to the test.
- 34:08In the last many years or just. Specifically in the New Jersey.
- 34:11Any conference? This conference, who would you
- 34:14say? Of an item that they gave away
- 34:16that was impactful. You're asking about an item they
- 34:17gave away or who makes. Who makes a lot of noise?
- 34:20A lot of Besides us, of course. Yeah, besides.
- 34:21Crime shows because we make a lot of noise at a lot of
- 34:23different conferences. Besides the two of us who's
- 34:25making a lot of noise when they do things, there's a few.
- 34:29You could stop. I could help you out in this
- 34:30one. Yes, please do.
- 34:31Yeah, give us your thoughts. It seems like you have an
- 34:32answer. So yeah, the RX special to the
- 34:35RX. Yeah.
- 34:35Especially the Atlantic City. The doctor, the shul.
- 34:37Oh, he. Always has the rooms, the kosher
- 34:39rooms, always sponsoring the kosher rooms.
- 34:41But he has a plethora of of promotional items.
- 34:45Yeah, I almost feel like I'm at a trade show in China.
- 34:46I. Always say Mccole Milan discount
- 34:48you always gotta learn from other again, I don't I I am I'm
- 34:51always very passionate. I am good at what I do, but.
- 34:54Keep learning from others what they're good, you get a Rep.
- 34:57You get from how you grow, but when it came to branding, yeah,
- 35:00I was paying attention. Who succeeded the best in our
- 35:03industry the last few years? Who would you say?
- 35:05Especially Iraq. They're they make.
- 35:07You both especially easy and everything.
- 35:09We're on fire today, but everything we're on fire today,
- 35:12we're on fire. Because they're every time you
- 35:14need kosher food, every time you need a place to pray.
- 35:16They're making life easier for people to be at the confidence.
- 35:20They're making more and by. The way the only the other
- 35:21Herman male lacks even a yoli. And a Yoli.
- 35:25Pesky Yoli. Not just another Husky and a
- 35:27Yoli. Not a surprise.
- 35:28Atlantic City, Yeah, food is their way to the man song they
- 35:31serve. I want you to know something
- 35:33that in California there's a trade show that didn't have
- 35:35kosher food or a place we took advantage of.
- 35:38Our specialty's not here yet. Especially not here yet we did
- 35:41it. You got we reserved it.
- 35:42We have exclusivity there. We.
- 35:44Saw it working with specialty and we said you know what we're
- 35:46going to take advantage of. This we took a page out of
- 35:48there. But by the way, you know, it's
- 35:49amazing those guys, they are present, they circle, yeah, you
- 35:53know what I mean? They show up to the conference
- 35:55and everybody sees them and everybody recognize them.
- 35:57So they got a lot of Yeah. And every single time I came
- 36:01back from the conference and I realized I got to figure out the
- 36:03brand and they gave out the Durham, the little Durham.
- 36:05We take it along with us all. We go.
- 36:06They have the palace bags that have one day with me.
- 36:09It's an item that we could appreciate.
- 36:11Yeah. And I said I have to come up
- 36:13with something that that people are going to remember.
- 36:17And that's where these battery packs came in.
- 36:19I tried and tried and about a year ago, and you want to hear
- 36:22what's interesting about the battery pack.
- 36:24Last year I showed up with 400 pieces.
- 36:26I came back with 200 and nobody wanted to take them.
- 36:29They felt bad. I don't play something with the
- 36:30Taipan, right? They couldn't figure.
- 36:32Out. I already have one somewhere.
- 36:33Yeah, 1 somewhere this year I showed up at the time.
- 36:36I'm not going to get out better. Welcome back.
- 36:37I'll give out to spread it out. I can't begin to tell you how
- 36:40many people came up with me with my battery pack.
- 36:42They come tomorrow and everybody loves it.
- 36:44Has my our our logo in bold over there.
- 36:47So everybody sees us all the time.
- 36:49And it's something that the people appreciate.
- 36:50So if they appreciate that, they'll definitely appreciate
- 36:52us. Yeah.
- 36:53You understand? What is that?
- 36:54Giveaway that you're doing. What is that $100,000 giveaway
- 36:57A. $100,000. Given it's like a gimmick, what
- 37:00is this? There's a giveaway of $100,000.
- 37:02Giving away 100. $1000 by By the way, what's ironic, What's
- 37:05funny? All the other there was nine
- 37:06other items we have to go out to eat.
- 37:09You know, let's. Talk about the $1000.
- 37:10By the way, we want the cab. I could tell I give you the back
- 37:12story and nobody signed up for the other, only the $100,000
- 37:16giveaway and we're going to be getting announcing in the next.
- 37:18Hold on then I should sign up for the dinner for two.
- 37:19Maybe we can go out. Someone wanted it already.
- 37:21Last time we posted already there was maybe 15 people that
- 37:24signed. What do you have to do to be?
- 37:25Eligible, you have to. It's basically only for in the
- 37:29healthcare space because we only really designed healthcare, not
- 37:31renovating for operators. It's for operators and we're
- 37:35we're waiting another week because we want more people to
- 37:38sign up and whoever won that promotion, that price on the
- 37:44self understood. I'm not giving somebody
- 37:46$100,000. I'm going to say it.
- 37:47I want everybody to know about it.
- 37:49It's that a credit? It's a credit if they spend, I
- 37:52don't know if it's one and a half, $1,000,000 with it.
- 37:54Yeah, that's basically. You got an extra 100,000.
- 37:56You get 100. 1000 Did you put that in the fine print?
- 37:58Is it listed there? Fine print is.
- 38:00There. Excellent, excellent.
- 38:02That's still very nice. That's.
- 38:03Very nice. That's $100,000.
- 38:05Maybe it's not. Maybe I will take a dinner for
- 38:07two, yeah. Or maybe you should buy consider
- 38:09buying a healthcare for nursing home.
- 38:11Yeah, there you go. Thank you.
- 38:12No, thank you. Yeah.
- 38:13It's not your passion. This is what you're not.
- 38:15Doing what did you keep telling us Follow your heart.
- 38:17Do what I love your I love this is what we're doing yeah, this
- 38:20is this is our passion. I.
- 38:21Love being on this. Side of the By the way, let them
- 38:23buy more nursing homes. Let them buy more.
- 38:25We'll keep servicing them. That's what we do.
- 38:27This is what. We do.
- 38:28We want to be their partners. Yeah, there's 20 people that
- 38:31were in our space. They were supplying for
- 38:33facilities every day. So, you know, they must be
- 38:34making so much money. And they joined and they failed.
- 38:36Yeah. Let them do what they do, and
- 38:37let us do what we do. Dudy, I want to tell you it was
- 38:39amazing having you with us. I want to do this again, and
- 38:42something tells me that we will. I just want to ask you, you did
- 38:45this whole Nachi thing. Where's this coming from?
- 38:47What are you trying to do here with this whole thing?
- 38:50So that was not me. We hired a Brandy company and
- 38:53Nellis Group. They're wonderful people.
- 38:54They do great work. Everybody out there needs
- 38:56marketing. They're very good.
- 38:58OK, we were scrambling in the last couple of weeks.
- 39:01It was all about prepping for ECAP and she felt that we should
- 39:08bring in someone like Nachi to be present at the last couple
- 39:12years. We bought some.
- 39:13An influence. An influence following will have
- 39:17good content to post. It's not a competitive
- 39:20competition with you. First of all.
- 39:22Thank you. Podcasts aren't competition.
- 39:25I'm not. I'm not familiar with that.
- 39:26No, no. Let me ask you, if you have a
- 39:28story in his, are you guys competition with each other?
- 39:31No, everybody, we need more of those.
- 39:33The more podcasts that are out there, the better it is.
- 39:35We're getting people's stories out and we're having sit downs.
- 39:37Is there an endless supply of people that are out there that
- 39:40everybody can interview? Obviously there is, right.
- 39:43So it's not a matter of fact. We had them on our podcast.
- 39:45We had him as a guest in our pocket.
- 39:47We're big fans of not. We love what he's doing.
- 39:48His mission is to really spread awareness of of Judaism and the
- 39:52beautiful parts of it. And he tries to highlight people
- 39:56that are making a meaningful impact within our communities.
- 39:59And they're doing things that can inspire others.
- 40:01And I think he's doing great work.
- 40:02I like the work that you're doing with.
- 40:03Him by the way, he did phenomenal.
- 40:05He did phenomenal, but I like it.
- 40:06He's a humble person, very he's very humble, yes and do a
- 40:10different candidates for this position and internally they
- 40:13voted him. Yeah, beautiful.
- 40:14Not surprise. Podcast Ivanka Trump talking
- 40:17about you don't speak lush and horror yeah yeah it's incredible
- 40:20it is yeah it's incredible but he definitely did a good job and
- 40:25I hope we'll we'll see the. I think you see the results.
- 40:27I think you're doing a lot of great things really.
- 40:29And I see you're, you see, you're out there, see your
- 40:31energy and I see the work that you're doing and the people
- 40:33behind you and doing $15 million projects, $50 million projects.
- 40:37It's not just about that. It's the people that you're
- 40:39growing with. It's your team behind you and
- 40:40and. Exactly, exactly.
- 40:42It's very important, they kept on saying.
- 40:43Are I have to still thank our team, each one of them, whether
- 40:48it's in the construction fund design department, but without
- 40:51them, I definitely wouldn't have been able to accomplish what
- 40:55we're accomplishing. We all speak the same language.
- 40:57We're on the same page. It's called we call same page as
- 40:59this. We do.
- 41:00We use EOS very and it's been really working for us.
- 41:04And I must say they're all incredibly, but I love all of
- 41:08them, each one of them. They're all rock stars.
- 41:10Really congratulations on your success if you've been coming on
- 41:12the podcast. Thank.
- 41:13You for your time. Thank you.
- 41:16That's a wrap.