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#247 - For Azeroth!: “Inspiration Revival” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  Tehran for the Kirin Tor and REO for calendar, organists our
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  cars. Not die for the sin Dora for the
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  alliance for a Syrah. Hello and welcome.
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  Um, to another episode of for Azeroth.
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  I am one of your hosts Olivia, this little the, the sling
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  speller. The Spell slinger.
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  One of these days, one of these days.
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  Oh my gosh. Okay.
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  Anyway, I'm not alone. I am joined.
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  Of course by my lovely co-host. The truest fill-in himself.
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  Manny Manny. You said it for me.
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  So I couldn't screw it up. There we go.
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  That'll work. Now I look all professional.
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  Okay. Right.
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  Right. Yeah, we're professional here.
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  We're Sessional. This is a professional
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  establishment of course naturally, but yeah.
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  I guess we'll get the the show started off, right?
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  And proper by asking the question.
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  How was your week in? WoW, been Manny.
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  It's been an interesting week. I went through and did my first
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  24 Mythic plus not initially planned.
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  I was just online and some of my guild mates are like, yeah,
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  let's do this. 20 and like, I don't think I'm ready.
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  I really don't think I'm ready like yeah, it's okay, it doesn't
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  matter if we go over time, you'll still go through it.
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  And like, yeah, no, it's a 20 before that like early that day,
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  I done like a 14. I was like, oh good.
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  I feel good that I pushed myself.
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  Through 14 because I'd been playing catch-up here.
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  I had lost two weeks like people like yelled at me pushing like
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  hierarchies hired hierarchies. And so this like 21 Court of
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  stars was what I got pulled into court of stars.
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  Could um no.20 Court of stars. Holy smokes.
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  Hi. Okay.
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  Okay, how did it go? So they Flat out.
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  Don't worry. We're not going to time it and
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  we didn't, we didn't. Okay, we went over time and off
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  that. I didn't get score for it, but
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  we completed it. I was bottom of the DPS.
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  My nerves were rack. There were many wipes, but at
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  times, I wasn't bottom of the DPS at times, actually, like
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  first bit of the rotten, It was actually pretty smooth.
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  And of course, you know, at 20s there are some things that like
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  you mess up and you're just dead charging station goes off and
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  you're in the wrong spot and you're done but it was good to
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  push myself like that. I don't, I would actually walk
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  into another 20 again this week. After that, despite going over
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  time I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be doing fifteens or
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  like Lower Keys because hey I was I felt that I wasn't
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  completely out of place in the 20 that's good.
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  And then of course, we have the reset and I got my Vault and
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  live. It was like one of the most
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  glorious vaults you have ever seen.
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  I only had five choices, but three of them were the The Raid
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  and I got three heroic choices, one of those being tear
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  shoulders, which, you know, people are after tear, but I
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  already had to your shoulders and I already have i4p.
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  So, you know, I'm looking, I'm sitting pretty good, right?
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  But, One of the choices was a weapon upgrade which is just
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  like, oh man, you want that? And it was a weapon with good
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  stats. So I was so after but I didn't
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  take it. Because getting carried through
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  that court of stars, got me a 421 tear chest, which replaces
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  the LF, our chest that I had. And so, I was really happy and
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  the Vault offered me, not only the weapon, not only the tears,
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  Elders that I skipped. Not only the tier chest that I
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  had but also a third piece of tear.
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  Right. And they're all different pieces
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  of tail. Like this Vault was like jam.
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  Like this one. This is what I want the fries
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  option to go pick up something later, like, just offer that to
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  me later, I had a similar week with my fault that that was like
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  getting in after after the server's went back up Tuesday
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  morning was just like, oh, okay, cool, let me open this vault.
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  alt and lo and behold, there's two tier pieces for me on my
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  Booker and and also weapon upgrade that ended up taking but
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  it was the the reason that I took because I only have the two
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  piece on my poker but the reason that I took that weapon upgrade
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  over the tear pieces that were on offer for me was that first
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  off It would have only gotten me to three pieces, which means I
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  would have been dependent on getting another piece of tear in
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  order to make that choice like fully worthwhile.
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  I would have liked been dependent on getting another
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  piece of tear out of the raid. And then the the other
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  consideration was that it was carnal X, which is the Evoque or
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  specific staff that drops off of brute brute.
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  Keeper. Is that like a rare drop?
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  Like it's incredibly rare. Well yeah but like couldn't have
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  gone that weapon later and that's where stuff but like rare
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  drops means chances of getting in the radar.
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  Yeah, because weapon chances are already extremely low as it is
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  but then on top of it being a weapon because there's two
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  weapons that can drop for me, there's a mace and then there's
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  a Then there's the that staff off of off, of bird keeper.
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  And the staff is just like way lower, drop chance than the
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  mace. We did see the mace drop on our
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  normal bird, keeper killed this week and I was just like, I'm
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  paying attention, I'm paying attention and I know what I got
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  in my Vault because I didn't make the choice until after
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  after raid Tuesday night. But as soon as we as soon as we
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  concluded right that night, I went straight to the Vault.
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  I'm just like give me the weapon because I didn't get it.
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  I didn't get another tier piece to drop.
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  That would have would have been one of the sites that I needed
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  because I have, I also have an LF our chest piece, and I also
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  have gloves that are normal. So I need Helm shoulders or legs
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  are two of the three of those, right?
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  So and I had, I think I had on Offer from The Vault was a
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  pretty big chest upgrade. I think it was I think it was a
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  heroic chest token and then the other was a Helm.
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  So I would have needed the shoulders to drop regardless and
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  the shoulders didn't drop for me.
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  So oh well, it's like okay, the weapon which specifically is
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  like the first light weapon. Correct the Charnel X, the first
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  lice Okay, yes, that isn't a rare.
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  Drop the chances of that specific item dropping is based
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  on her normal loot table. When I was.
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  Speaking of rare drops are talking about the whole extra
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  reared thing. Yes, not like necessarily drop
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  like the rings that come from are analog and Brew keeper.
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  Since we're talking about bird keeper, the bow that comes off
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  of razza, guess right? And of course the trinket that
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  I've been chasing the whispering incarnate Daikon.
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  Yes, right. Yes.
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  Like those workers want to talk about with rare drop.
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  Okay, so okay, so with that in mind, right?
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  You have tear. You went for the weapon was the
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  tear of the weapon higher for you.
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  So on like on paper like the pain add-on, like estimated DPS,
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  increase thing that they put in the tooltip was like eight
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  percent with the I'm sorry, the weapons always going to have
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  higher higher increase it had little, it was saying the chest.
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  The chest was going to be like a 29%, DPS increase and The staff
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  was only eight percent. However, the staff like that was
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  only being taken into consideration with the base
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  stats that were on the staff, not the on use effect because
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  they could they I don't know why that's not calculated in because
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  that's not static site, right? So pain will only do stat
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  weights. Yeah so that wasn't taken into
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  consideration and yeah. So I am doing insane.
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  DPS, now that I have the staff because I was doing pretty good
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  DPS before I like that. This was my first first raid
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  week officially on on the invoker.
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  And I did surprisingly well, like way better than I was
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  expecting my numbers to show up. Like I was in the top five for
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  like the majority of the night while I'm bosses and I was I was
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  pleased with myself. I was very He's with myself
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  because I was continuing with with two majors in a hunter and
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  a warlock that just absolutely thrash, The Meters every bus and
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  I was I was up there with them on my poker and I was very
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  happy. Very, very very pleased with
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  myself for the performance that I had.
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  I even had a 99 Parts, it was on a wipe.
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  It was on like a 35 second white but I still still got a 99.
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  Fine. So I'll take, I'll take the W.
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  I'll take the W. Sure, it's very funny that
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  you're talking about parses and such where I had a pretty long
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  conversation about this. Parse mentality, the sort of way
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  that people will look at things in terms of like raid.
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  Groups for like a TC raid group Cutting Edge, raid group, a
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  racing world first regroup, or even something like a Friends
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  and family regroup and just like how the different mentalities
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  and that trickle-down effect that was a pretty long
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  conversation, but I'm not going to go into that right now.
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  Yeah, I honestly think that there was something to be said
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  about grabbing that third piece, especially with the Catalyst
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  about to come out. Next week.
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  It is coming out next week. That is very true.
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  So that peace. Even if you got Hadn't gotten
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  any pieces in raid yesterday when you raided or Sunday, when
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  you get your rate again, you will be able to convert one of
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  your other pieces to a fourth piece.
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  Thereby guaranteeing, you a 4-Piece next week.
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  So on that note, I do have gear in my bags that I specifically
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  have been holding onto in order to be able to convert them later
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  on down the road, including a Helm.
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  And I think the shoulders that I have on Are out of the raid so I
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  can convert them if I if I so choose.
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  But I'm kind of I'm kind of banking on getting another piece
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  of tear out of my next fault which is not not advisable at
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  all. No, not advisable or like
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  alternatively. Also getting getting tear to
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  drop off of another boss kill. If we, if we happen to get
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  another boss kill. Where is get your crap together?
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  Right now, we are working on Keurig.
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  I believe that's that's where we're currently at to your boss.
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  Do you need that to your chest? Is it is, it know?
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  The Theta is the one that has the legs.
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  Right? Defi has close close.
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  Yeah, so which one is legs? Good question.
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  Good question. That's a that's a excellent
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  question that I should know the answer to for me.
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  I know what I'm targeting. So I remember, what pieces I
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  would particularly missing. Like I was after the chest for a
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  while, so I know where the chest was, I'm missing the helm so
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  like, hey, you're as a gift looking at, you kind of funny
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  especially since the Helms really well itemized.
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  And because it's coming from the last boss.
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  It's at the highest level that the raid at the difficulty will
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  drop. Yes.
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  But you're at grimtotem, you guys, Renee OTC team.
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  So once you get through the next I guess three bosses.
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  Ain't you got three left right? What are you guys going to be
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  doing? I would imagine it's going to
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  take us a couple of weeks to get through razza.
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  Gareth and I don't know that discussions have been had about
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  what we're going to be doing other than just like getting
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  getting additional Friends of the team in other guild.
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  Guild members are a OTC. He kills once we once we secure
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  the first one but I don't know that very much discussion has
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  been had at least not that I've seen by but I think all all of
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  our Focus right now is on just working towards the OTC.
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  So then what would you want to do?
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  Probably probably just keep clearing in heroic.
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  I've thought about I thought about wanting to get into Mythic
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  though. I don't know that I will, if
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  I'll do that this season necessarily, but if there's
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  enough people within get your crap together, that that want to
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  do Mythic, then that's certainly something that I would jump at,
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  but I don't know that there are any plans to do that
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  necessarily. So I think after that point is
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  just going to be kind of of like going and doing the weekly
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  career clear every week and then after that, just kind of working
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  a little bit towards like if I haven't hit Keystone here or
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  Keystone Master at that point working towards those and just
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  kind of taken it easy beyond that if we're not doing Mythic
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  content, all right? Well, something that you might
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  consider is actually going to be coming out next week, which is
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  not the Catalyst which I do want to.
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  Say we have been calling it or at least I have been calling it.
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  The Inspiration Catalyst, I'm not entirely sure where I picked
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  up that, I think it was said somewhat earlier and I kind of
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  ran with it but the catalyst is actually being called the
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  Revival Catalyst and though it was not announced as patch, the
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  part of patch 10.0 .5, it's coming along right with patch
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  10.05, which is going to be on the 24th which was my first
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  guess. It was my first guess I wish I
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  hadn't hedged my best, my bets and also said the 31st, I was
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  right the first time. Oh, well that's literally so
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  close with today being the 18th to the 24th being next Tuesday,
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  that means next week, we're going to have the Catalyst open
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  and catch 10 point 0.5. So lived you want to tell us
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  about what's happening? Yeah, with Tim Point 0.5.
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  There's a actually a Good chunk of stuff that's coming with it.
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  We are getting the Trading Post which I believe, I believe
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  starts in February. So the the actual Trading Post
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  itself will be included in the, the actual patch content, but it
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  won't start until February 1st. So, So that will be that will be
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  something to look forward to. We've talked about a little bit
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  about what's coming with the trading post and a lot of the
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  the Cosmetic stuff that's come along with it but that's
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  essentially what it is. It is a it is a way an
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  additional way for players within the World of Warcraft to
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  get to get some some more cosmetic stuff.
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  There's going to be Mouse, there's going to be weapon,
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  trans, mogs armor, trans mogs, you name it pets, I think.
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  Even I think I think like the one cosmetic thing that isn't
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  going to be necessarily on the trading post is like titles and
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  stuff. Unless unless there are titles
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  that are coming with the trading post, but I don't think that
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  that's going to be a thing. Well, this is visible and like,
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  yes, that's digital good. Technically technically
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  technically speaking titles are also visible, okay.
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  Something unique in and around your character model.
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  Yes. Not like I mean like yeah let's
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  let's not go into nitpicking about working but yeah the way
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  that it's going to kind of work is going to be is going to be
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  like every month that you're that you're logged in, you're
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  just going to accrue this this currency that you'll be able to
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  take in order to spend at the trading post.
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  And I think doing I'm doing different things.
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  Different activities in the game will get.
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  You will get you more of this currency called Traders tender
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  and and you'll be able to use this Traders tender towards
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  towards purchasing, all the things that are available and
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  the the goods that will be on offer of the Trading, Post will
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  will pretty frequently. Rotate in and out.
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  You had something to say, Minnie.
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  No, I click that by mistake. I looked down, I saw it.
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  Okay. But yeah, automatically every
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  month. Just by logging in you'll be
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  able to collect 500 Traders tender.
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  And then like I said, you'll be able to do do various activities
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  so you'll have something called The Travelers log and it will
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  have a set of monthly activities, you can do at your
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  leisure and once you've once you've done all those
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  activities, you will have gotten all of the The all of the
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  additional Traders tender that you that will be available for
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  the month. So you'll get five hundred just
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  for logging in every month and then there's an additional 500.
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  So up to 1000 Traders tender every month and you can, you can
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  like, save up and wait for a particularly juicy Trading, Post
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  to come along to spend all of your tender or you can you can
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  try and get Thing if you want but I don't think that you'll be
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  able to purchase everything within a month within or just
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  with that months, things that you might have to do a little
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  bit of a little bit of playing around with, with saving your
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  Tinder to get the, some things that you might really want
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  later. But you're just gonna have to
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  just gonna have the balance out the fomo on your own because we
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  can't do that for you. Well, okay, yeah, but there's a
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  number of things that they've done to avoid the photo as it
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  were. So the first thing is that
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  nothing in the in the beta or sorry on the PTR, nothing in the
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  Traders post cost more than 1,000 at most, it was like 900
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  for the mount, right? So if you want them out great,
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  the second thing is that one of the offers is Something that you
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  get without spending your your Traders tenders currency but by
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  acquiring it. So if you go through your
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  Travis, your Travelers log, the adventure Guide, what, right?
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  You will have a track bar and as you complete things, you'll fill
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  that track bar. And when you get to the end of
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  it, congratulations, you get the monthly bonus.
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  And that means that you could get amount and a bunch of
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  Cosmetics, it right? You could get two mounts because
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  one is the fill the bar reward and one is something you can buy
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  with the currencies you get by filling the bar.
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  The other part of it is that if there's something where you're
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  like, oh I want this Mount that. I want this like cool other
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  thing in there, you can freeze an option to then be offered.
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  To you the next month. So you can be like, okay, you
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  know what Mount? Go goes into the free, so I can
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  pick it up next month and I'll go and get get this other stuff.
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  Instead of spending the 900. I'll spend 400 here and 200 here
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  and another 400 here, and spend model my currency on that.
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  And the amount will still be there next month when it's
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  rotates over. So, there's a number of ways
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  that they've combated that kind of fomo, of course, if there's
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  multiple things that you would want to save, For previous
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  months. And yeah, unfortunately, you can
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  only freeze one thing at a time. You could refund any of this
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  stuff and then go back and buy what you actually wanted even if
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  you like pick up the mount and then add it to your collection,
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  you can still be like, okay, actually no, no, I don't want to
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  do that. You can you can refund that so
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  there isn't exactly that kind of There's no way to stop fully the
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  fomo or even a buyer's remorse, but they've been very forgiving
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  about this system, right? That's good.
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  The last part is that they're offering a special bonus for
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  anybody who has bought dragonflight like if you haven't
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  bought dragonflights by. Now here's another reason an
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  immediate 500 tender. So the first month that this
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  opens up in February, you'll have 15 100, right. 1500 of The
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  Travelers tender currency which means that you'll be able to buy
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  a ton of stuff out of the first offering or Bank, some of that,
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  for one of those really crazy months that you want everything,
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  if that does happen. So like again, it's like a lot
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  of ways that they're going to be able to do this, but I say that
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  also, because if you are somebody who is not playing on
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  the latest expansion, the Traders post is Able to you.
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  It is in the major cities, you don't have to go into the latest
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  expansion. It is something you can do
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  without buying the latest expansion.
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  If that was something that you weren't doing it, is it is also
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  something that doesn't require you to derail your current
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  plans. If your plans for the next
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  little bit was pushing for eoj TC and doing Mythic plus because
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  it's the first expansion that you've actually been in Mythic
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  plus. Well, the goals At come in the,
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  the, to fill up. The bar can be done through
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  Mythic plus and rating can be done through pet.
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  Battling can be done. Through Gathering Gathering
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  stuff can be done by all different sorts of things that
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  you may already be doing. Anyways, you might encourage you
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  to do some other stuff. If perhaps, you're getting
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  closer to the end of month, and you're like, oh, you know what?
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  My team took the took the week off, because We're all in love
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  and it's Valentine's Day and we skip the raid, right?
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  And so, you know, me being the curmudgeon that I am, I'll be
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  like, okay, fine. We'll screw you guys.
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  I'm going to go, do whatever and fill up my my bar and that can
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  be something that is available for the player.
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  So I think that this is a great system in the way that it's set
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  up. Again, you could only get 1000
• 25:15
  normally in a given month. 500 will be there waiting for you in
• 25:21
  a chest by The Travelers the sorry the Traders post and you
• 25:27
  just need to login any time during that month and open that
• 25:29
  chest and you'll get 500. The other 500, it's just
• 25:32
  activities that you do during that month, that will accrue
• 25:36
  towards it. Perfect, let's not the only
• 25:39
  thing coming in ten point, 0.5. We're also getting a little bit
• 25:43
  of an update. If you have traveled around the
• 25:47
  dragon Isles, you we'll have undoubtedly run into some of
• 25:52
  these Primal has storms that happen throughout the zones.
• 25:55
  Well, they are adding a new kind of Primal is storm, that's going
• 26:03
  to be specific to, to the, to the promos feature, little mini
• 26:10
  Zone within fell dresses. So, this is a new event called
• 26:18
  Storms Fury. It will happen exclusively in
• 26:21
  the Primal has future. And so, like you go to the, you
• 26:25
  go to The Hourglass and you click on the portal that takes
• 26:28
  you, the premise future. That's how you get in there and
• 26:31
  these will happen on a five hour, timer.
• 26:36
  And there will be, there will be a whole bunch of new stuff.
• 26:40
  There's going to be item level, 385 Rings Trinkets, and a neck,
• 26:46
  there will be A new toy, a cache containing Storm schedule.
• 26:54
  So, the little egg looking things that you get to go
• 26:58
  upgrade, your, your gear, from the Primal storms, you'll be
• 27:03
  able to get some of those from from this storms Fury event.
• 27:08
  There is a new mount with it and also, a time last vork, when
• 27:12
  pet, so new things, new things to do out in the world.
• 27:17
  I'm sure with Like within a couple of these, you'll be able
• 27:20
  to go through and do it enough to collect everything.
• 27:24
  It probably won't take very many in order to get everything
• 27:29
  though there might some of these things might be a little bit
• 27:32
  more RNG than others, but it is it is going to be something that
• 27:36
  starts with with reset on the next Tuesday.
• 27:41
  Basically, but yeah, there's a lot of other little thing.
• 27:47
  Oh, wait, before we move on. man, did you have anything to
• 27:50
  say about the I will but it'll be connected to another part
• 27:56
  that we're going to be covering soon, so let's keep moving on.
• 27:58
  Okay, perfect. So there's a lot of other little
• 28:03
  little things that are being done in this update.
• 28:10
  They are making some some updates to creatures and NBC's.
• 28:15
  So there are going to be new rare enemies and NPCs now found
• 28:20
  in the elite areas of the know could And boo Cobalt assembly to
• 28:25
  your hold and the Primal has future.
• 28:27
  So, all of the Rays that we have access to now we will be it will
• 28:33
  be injected with Nur are enemies to go fight.
• 28:36
  I'm sure with new new loot tables that are specific to
• 28:39
  them. So we'll have that to look
• 28:41
  forward to There's a note that some rare enemies that showed up
• 28:47
  on the zone maps, outside of the elite areas have had their
• 28:50
  Cadence changed to one spine, every 30 minutes was to spine
• 28:55
  every two hours. The health of these rares have
• 28:58
  been increased as well. So players have more time to get
• 29:00
  to them before. They are defeated something that
• 29:02
  I have been screaming for sincerity mortis but yeah, glad
• 29:10
  glad to know that they're they are going to be increasing the
• 29:13
  health pools of these things because That's something that's
• 29:16
  something that I've run into quite frequently in the dragon
• 29:18
  Isles. Even with dragon writing seeing
• 29:22
  the, the the map marker, for one of these ultra rare mobs, that
• 29:28
  pops up. Come up on the map and jumping
• 29:31
  on my on my dragon. And being what I feel is fairly
• 29:36
  sufficient with with dragon writing and being able to get
• 29:39
  from point A to point B, really quickly still struggle to get To
• 29:45
  some of these boxes when they spawn out the world.
• 29:49
  What do? I had just because just it just
• 29:53
  it's I want to I want to be included.
• 29:56
  I want to be included. Manny.
• 29:58
  Okay that's what I want this. That's all I really want.
• 30:01
  I don't really want any of the rewards from killing it.
• 30:03
  I just want to be included. Yeah.
• 30:06
  Like there's like at your gear level like they don't offer you
• 30:11
  anything? No and I mean it's gold.
• 30:13
  He was hunting down achievement so it's not like you want to
• 30:16
  like kill all the rears to get an achievement.
• 30:19
  So this is Like, well, I might eventually if I have enough of
• 30:23
  them and only have like one or two left to go junkie.
• 30:28
  If I were to ask you roughly, where your achievement score is,
• 30:31
  you wouldn't be able to tell me, hey, you'd probably be able to
• 30:34
  tell me what my achievement score is, not your achievement
• 30:38
  ID. Mm, tell you where roughly,
• 30:39
  where I'm at, but like like I just like from the type of
• 30:42
  player that I do you Tavi, I was a slow.
• 30:44
  Like why do you care what does, what does what do these things
• 30:49
  all for you? Other than like, oh good, I have
• 30:53
  more of a chance that like being distracted about this thing.
• 30:56
  When I was trying to do something else, is going to
• 30:58
  offer me like a little dopamine hit of killing it.
• 31:00
  And then, why was I here? It's the dopamine of feeling
• 31:05
  like I belong to something greater than myself, mainly,
• 31:08
  that's what it is on a great joy.
• 31:13
  In a group, there are many groups, including, like, raid
• 31:15
  groups that do all the Hunts over and over again.
• 31:19
  They're a great group set will. Like make sure that they're
• 31:21
  doing the the cooking event in Tuscarora right there is there
• 31:29
  were there's not as many as they used to be.
• 31:31
  They used to be raid groups that would be killing although the
• 31:34
  rares in the obsidian Citadel and in Bracken hide Hollow like
• 31:40
  we were just talking about their those used to be all over the
• 31:42
  place when those were valuable potential drops but people
• 31:47
  aren't doing them anymore because people realize they're
• 31:48
  not really that. Valuable, I think that they will
• 31:52
  definitely be groups that are doing the storms Fury events
• 31:57
  that we were just talking about and I would say that that's more
• 32:01
  what I would focus on. I actually personally dislike
• 32:06
  this change just because I would be flying around one of them
• 32:10
  would fly by and they'd be like huh.
• 32:11
  Sure. I'll kill you.
• 32:12
  That's, it's going to take me longer to mow through bad
• 32:15
  health. but that's just me being like, my own my own personal
• 32:21
  situation that is that is valid, but I still stand by, I would
• 32:30
  like to be able to get to them and tag it because there's a lot
• 32:33
  of times when I just fly in right at the last moment.
• 32:35
  And whoops, it's dead. As soon as I land, but speaking
• 32:41
  of obsidian, Citadel dragonhide Halo, they are increasing the
• 32:45
  level of the rewards that spawn off of the the other Elite rares
• 32:52
  in the other areas and the more scheduled rares that are
• 32:55
  scattered around the the Dragon. Giles there they're raising the
• 32:59
  item level of the reward so it won't be too like it'll still
• 33:04
  probably for me. Be not as worth it to go do it
• 33:07
  but for people going around the world that want to have that
• 33:12
  more like solo player, open-world content, they'll have
• 33:18
  a little bit, a little bit more of an incentive to go and kill
• 33:21
  these bosses to get to get patches filled in their gear.
• 33:26
  The last thing is kind of like an RP thing.
• 33:29
  The newly trained draenei light forged Ray and I Tha rain and
• 33:32
  high mountain torrent. That that now specialize in
• 33:35
  Rogue Mage classes are now located in major Capital Cities
• 33:39
  Stormwind in Orgrimmar and and also in their racial cities of
• 33:44
  course Thunder Bluff and exit are and there's also a torn
• 33:49
  Rogue that's been added to the road class Hall.
• 33:51
  So there is going to be reppin representation of these class
• 33:54
  race cam. Bows out in the world outside
• 33:58
  of, you know, all the hundreds of thousands of players.
• 34:01
  I'm sure that went and made Turin Rogues.
• 34:07
  Finally, finally went and made to our drugs.
• 34:10
  Listen, those torn Rogue trainers.
• 34:12
  Were always there. They were just really good at
• 34:13
  self. Like this seems like an earth.
• 34:16
  It is, it's a little bit of a Nerf.
• 34:18
  It is a little bit of a Nerf. You make an excellent point.
• 34:22
  But yeah, another thing that's returning is the Each Tower.
• 34:28
  It's got everything that that was on offer.
• 34:31
  The last time the Mage Tower was out notably there is a distinct
• 34:35
  absence of evoker being mentioned at all for the Mage
• 34:41
  Tower this time around and blizzard I got to ask it.
• 34:46
  What's up with that? But was it?
• 34:49
  What's up with that? Maybe another small patch it was
• 34:54
  something that you guys were listing couple episodes back.
• 34:58
  I said oh it would be great if they added an additional
• 35:00
  customization to the volkers or the track, their base model.
• 35:06
  So like that there's only like so much armor that they have and
• 35:11
  adding that would have been cool.
• 35:13
  But yeah. Nothing for the Evoque errs.
• 35:15
  So be it. So I think they would have had
• 35:17
  the best thing to do would to be at something for both.
• 35:22
  Reservation and Devastation each of those getting a challenge and
• 35:27
  then completing both of those would offer something.
• 35:29
  Yeah, well the the thing that the thing that that kind of
• 35:36
  weirds me out about the Mage Tower and and they're like the
• 35:40
  blurb that they put about the Mage Tower in the in the
• 35:43
  official patch notes is that there's just no mention of
• 35:47
  Voters at all. There's not even a mention of
• 35:49
  whether or not evoke occurs can attempt to do it.
• 35:53
  They they wouldn't have anything set up for them like to include
• 36:00
  the Evoque hers would require assigning those challenges to
• 36:04
  them. Hmm, right.
• 36:06
  And The Logical thought process would be that they would then
• 36:12
  get a reward out of it. And if they were to do that,
• 36:18
  then the smallest thing to follow.
• 36:19
  That would be to also mention, hey, we did all this work, so I
• 36:23
  don't think it's a question of whether it exists or not.
• 36:25
  I think the absolute lack of mention means.
• 36:27
  There's nothing there for voters.
• 36:30
  I just, okay. That's a bummer.
• 36:32
  That's a little bit of a bummer, but that's okay.
• 36:34
  That's okay. I have alts.
• 36:36
  I have alts that I can do stuff with you have Lance.
• 36:39
  I have also, I have a few, have a few alts, my questioning face,
• 36:44
  but sure. But you did sort of skip over
• 36:47
  one thing, hmm, which is the Revival Catalyst which we had
• 36:52
  mentioned right at the beginning.
• 36:55
  Yes, but I did want to talk about a bit because the catalyst
• 37:00
  is back and the other thing that's back not just amazed
• 37:03
  Tower, the catalyst is back. That means that you're going to
• 37:06
  be able to change gear into I gear and raid gear, right?
• 37:12
  Their changes are that instead of having to require some sort
• 37:15
  of currency, you will get a quest that you can complete on
• 37:21
  any of your characters on your account.
• 37:24
  Once you complete it on on, sorry, I apologize.
• 37:28
  Once you complete the quest, then all the characters on your
• 37:32
  account, will get a charge to use even characters that you
• 37:36
  make after you've completed this Quest.
• 37:39
  The quest can be completed all on one character or in part on
• 37:44
  multiple characters to, to actually make the quest
• 37:50
  complete. So if you are, let's say playing
• 37:55
  through and you're like halfway done, you say, if you say, you
• 37:58
  know what, I'm done with devastation, I'm going to switch
• 38:01
  back to a shadow priest, your don't have to start the quest
• 38:05
  all the way over. You can pick up the, you can
• 38:08
  pick up where you left off and complete, the rest of it on your
• 38:10
  Shadow priest, or your Arcane Mage, or whatever, you might
• 38:14
  switch through the other part to this is that the gears the gear
• 38:20
  that is available to Change has been expanded.
• 38:26
  You can change, of course Mythic plus gear.
• 38:31
  You can change PVP rated gear, right?
• 38:35
  But you can also change the elite PVP gear that you get from
• 38:40
  World content, right? Just by conquest and such, you
• 38:45
  can trade in the Epic Level storm gear.
• 38:51
  So this the gear that you would get from doing the Asians would
• 38:57
  normally be the 359, you can then upgrade that 2385 and that
• 39:05
  gear can be changed to tear gear, right?
• 39:10
  That's why I wanted to point out the storms Fury event, the
• 39:14
  storms Fury event. Can drop that clutch of eggs
• 39:19
  which can upgrade to 385 gear which can then be switched using
• 39:25
  the catalyst. So for people who are out doing,
• 39:31
  let's say your level of play means that you are doing.
• 39:34
  Like let's say Mythic zeros, LFR that sort of stuff.
• 39:38
  Storm gear, can get you tear gear at the highest level of be
• 39:43
  available to you. If you are somebody on a team
• 39:46
  that runs Normal. The 385 gear.
• 39:50
  Isn't that far off from 389 gear?
• 39:52
  That would be some pieces of tear gear.
• 39:56
  And so, there's a lot here for not only the people playing the
• 40:01
  Staples, and pushing their keys and going high rating on PVP,
• 40:07
  but also for every player and I think that's great.
• 40:10
  But one thing I will remind people is that you cannot
• 40:14
  convert Gear that is made through professions.
• 40:18
  You can't buy a high-level profession.
• 40:21
  Peace and convert that it's not eligible, right?
• 40:24
  Yeah. And I guess I should also
• 40:26
  mention that if you are Going through this system.
• 40:39
  Gear that doesn't turn into tier, so it's not part of the
• 40:43
  five, tier Slots of Head Shoulders, chest, pants, or
• 40:47
  gloves, you can still put that through the Catalyst.
• 40:51
  It will still change it into raid gear.
• 40:54
  It just will not have a tier bonus.
• 40:56
  So once you've gotten your for peace and you've gotten it to
• 41:00
  like as high as you can, you could still use this to turn a
• 41:04
  Poorly itemized piece into a piece with different different
• 41:10
  itemization and improve your gear that way.
• 41:14
  In the former version, shadowlands, rings, and weapons,
• 41:20
  and neck pieces were not eligible for the Catalyst.
• 41:25
  I do not know if that is the same for the Revival Catalyst
• 41:30
  but those are low priority, most of the time, but remember that
• 41:38
  some of those pieces are nothing but secondary stats, your rings
• 41:42
  don't have agility or intellect. They are pure secondary.
• 41:45
  So if you've got a ring, that's got terrible.
• 41:47
  Secondaries the Catalyst can be the biggest change for that.
• 41:52
  Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 41:54
  It can but I'm excited for it because it means I probably will
• 42:00
  probably be getting tear or for peace to your bonus next week
• 42:05
  which is, which is great. It's exciting, if a drop comes
• 42:08
  for you, right? You're guaranteed three p's
• 42:12
  using something using a catalyst, but you are once
• 42:14
  again, dependent on R&D to see another tier piece to get your
• 42:19
  for peace. But do you want to read this
• 42:22
  last little Sure, but they have about the Catalyst.
• 42:24
  Yeah, each week in account-wide quest will be available which
• 42:28
  Awards a charge to the Revival Catalyst progress towards this.
• 42:32
  Quest will require players to complete relevant raid, Mythic
• 42:36
  plus, PVP and or World content. This can be done on a single
• 42:40
  character or combined across multiple characters on the
• 42:44
  account. Completion will then award
• 42:47
  separate charge for each character on the account which
• 42:50
  includes any characters that you created in the future.
• 42:54
  The total number of charges that can be stored for an individual
• 42:57
  character is currently capped at six.
• 43:00
  If a character vendored disenchanted or destroyed a
• 43:04
  dragon flight season, one item that you would want to use for
• 43:07
  the system. Please visit the World of
• 43:09
  Warcraft, item restoration page for assistance.
• 43:14
  So yeah, even if you even if you disenchanted a piece that that
• 43:19
  you could have turned into tear, you can still go back and get
• 43:23
  it. Which is, which is again, super
• 43:26
  cool. And I've already I've used I've
• 43:29
  used that service a few times. I'm used to just expansion.
• 43:34
  Yeah, I've used it. I've used it twice.
• 43:36
  I think actually, there was a there was a trinket that I that
• 43:43
  I disenchanted on my Mage which just so happened to be my best
• 43:48
  in slot trinket. Even at 3, what was it?
• 43:52
  376 Was the Mythic 0. I don't know 372.
• 43:57
  Oh, you mean the dragon? Yeah, Dragon Talon from, and we
• 44:02
  from that one Ruby, like course. Okay.
• 44:04
  No. No from Alderman also have the
• 44:07
  last boss an older one which is because it's not rotation, so
• 44:11
  you can't go get it. So you had to get it at 372 out
• 44:14
  of out of the Mythic 0 version of the alderman Dungeon Because
• 44:20
  it's not in rotation but even even at 370, To still best in
• 44:24
  slot for Arcane. So I had disenchanted it and
• 44:30
  went back and undo disenchanted it and then I think there was a
• 44:37
  neck piece that I had at all. So disenchanted it just so
• 44:39
  happened to have like my best in slot.
• 44:41
  Stato, my have ochre, and it got replaced Superfast anyway.
• 44:46
  But I would just like, I could use some more.
• 44:49
  I could use some more Mastery. So let me let me grab that, but
• 44:52
  yeah. Super helpful tool to be able to
• 44:57
  get back into it. I don't know where I wanted to
• 45:04
  go with that. So just going to move on to the
• 45:06
  next topic, which is changes. They have made two professions
• 45:12
  they. We've talked a little bit about
• 45:15
  some of these but I just wanted to go through and and make sure
• 45:18
  that everyone knows what's going on with professions going into
• 45:23
  next week. So that so that we can, maybe
• 45:27
  maybe reduce a little bit of the, the bad feels that may make
• 45:32
  up. Come around professions.
• 45:34
  So all professions have had their requirements to unlock
• 45:37
  specialization was reduced. We have, we talked about that in
• 45:41
  an earlier episode, but basically everything that had
• 45:45
  had for specialization unlocks reduced from the requirement of
• 45:50
  the fourth, one being unlocked at 100 down to 75.
• 45:54
  Everything that had three got reduced from 75 to 50 I believe.
• 46:01
  But yeah, everything everything is reduced.
• 46:04
  All specializations got knocked down to be a lot more
• 46:07
  accessible. So you don't have to, you don't
• 46:10
  have to completely max out your your profession in order to
• 46:13
  unlock all of the all the specializations that are on
• 46:18
  offer for them. Another change that is being
• 46:21
  made, is that the portals from the from overloaded Titan, touch
• 46:26
  nodes. Well, now more consistently take
• 46:28
  you to a new location, which is Is another problem that I've had
• 46:34
  with. I've dealt with it quite quite a
• 46:37
  lot recently, with, like, trying to figure out.
• 46:41
  Like, do I do, I pop the portal before, or after I have mind the
• 46:46
  node or gathered the herb node, like, what's the best?
• 46:50
  Practice here, and having inconsistent results.
• 46:54
  So hopefully, hopefully, with this patch, I we won't have that
• 46:59
  issue where we'll just be In a loop teleporting onto the same,
• 47:04
  note over and over again, the overload Elemental deposit, and
• 47:09
  overload, Elemental herb has been slightly redesigned.
• 47:12
  So, overloading cooldown is no longer Modified by gathering
• 47:15
  mining or herb, nodes, or load is now taught to all miners an
• 47:20
  herbalist after collecting their first element to a themed node
• 47:23
  and mastering the elements unlock point.
• 47:26
  Now, restores overload cooldown reduction functionality, Air is
• 47:31
  a developer's note on this, that says overload offers, the
• 47:34
  occasional moment to allow gathers to not only change up
• 47:39
  their gameplay, but also to gain a nice bonus of extra Elemental,
• 47:42
  reagents requiring a specialization investment to
• 47:46
  engage with the system felt too restrictive and also did not
• 47:49
  feel offer. All gatherers the same
• 47:52
  opportunity to try something new by Shifting, the cooldown
• 47:56
  reduction on to the unlike point and unlocking, the spell for all
• 47:59
  gathers, everyone has an opportunity You need to
• 48:02
  participate but also get a better understanding of what the
• 48:04
  feature is offering before investing points into the
• 48:08
  specialization tree, which is nice.
• 48:10
  I think that's a good. That's a good way to go about it
• 48:14
  and I'm glad that change is coming.
• 48:16
  Despite the fact that I already have a gather at that that has
• 48:19
  been dealing with that and had it unlocked for four weeks now
• 48:23
  but that's okay. Profession requirements for mini
• 48:27
  transmog, eligible pieces have been adjusted or removed
• 48:30
  entirely. I IE engineering goggles.
• 48:33
  It's not all profession-specific things.
• 48:39
  There are, there are some that won't be included in that.
• 48:45
  You'll just have to. You just have to see which ones
• 48:47
  they are. As I said we weren't given
• 48:50
  weren't given a list of the ones that are included on that but
• 48:54
  most profession requirements for for transmog, eligible pieces
• 48:59
  will be removed. So you can, you can Go and as
• 49:02
  long as you've collected it on one character, you should have
• 49:04
  access to it on on all of your characters just like any other
• 49:07
  piece of transmog. They've also returned Warlords
• 49:12
  of Draenor, crafted item appearances.
• 49:15
  So you can, you can go and unlock all of the, the different
• 49:19
  versions of the of the weapons. For example, you can, you can go
• 49:24
  unlock those now a little bit more easily if you didn't have
• 49:29
  them the first time through, If you didn't play in Warlords, for
• 49:32
  example, now you can go get them and not just get like a think.
• 49:38
  I think right now. Like if you do those you just
• 49:40
  get either the base version or the the max version.
• 49:45
  I'm unsure as to as to which one it is.
• 49:47
  But now you can get all versions.
• 49:52
  And then the last two things and those are the big changes that
• 49:55
  are coming with with the patches that they have updated, the
• 49:59
  crafting UI panel. So now multiple charge cooldowns
• 50:04
  will Now list the time of, when the next charge will be
• 50:07
  available rather than a, this is how much time is left track
• 50:13
  recipe check boxes are now available for re-crafting so in
• 50:18
  in that panel if you want To track a specific item to recraft
• 50:23
  later. You can you can just mark it for
• 50:25
  track recipe which is nice and then enchanting items will Now
• 50:29
  display in. Enchantment prefix text in the
• 50:32
  crafted items window. So if there is a, if there is an
• 50:36
  item that you need for a craft that comes from enchanting
• 50:40
  specifically which I think the only to the only two professions
• 50:43
  that use enchanting items are tailoring and tailoring and
• 50:49
  enchanting if I'm not Taken there may be.
• 50:53
  There may be some jewelcrafting included in that, but again,
• 50:58
  anything that uses enchanting materials that will be, that
• 51:02
  will be included in the text on any and chanting items that are
• 51:07
  that are required for a craft. The other thing is crafting
• 51:09
  orders, so they've made a couple of different changes to that as
• 51:13
  well. They've added a use, highest
• 51:15
  quality reagent checkbox to the customer side of the of the
• 51:19
  crafting order. Panel.
• 51:22
  So you can, you can choose whether, or whether or not to
• 51:26
  use the maximum items or if you want to go badly manually choose
• 51:30
  which ones you. You would like to submit for for
• 51:36
  a crafting order, add an option to reject, an order by
• 51:39
  right-clicking on right-clicking on it, under the personal orders
• 51:43
  tab. There is a open all button.
• 51:48
  Now added for crafting, order mail window, When?
• 51:55
  Going to restart that. There's now a open, all for
• 51:58
  crafting order. Male auto-delete, the mail after
• 52:02
  receiving the item. So you won't have that male just
• 52:05
  sitting in there forever unless you go manually.
• 52:10
  Delete it. The mini-map will now show
• 52:13
  personal crafting order notifications and there is now a
• 52:16
  confirmation dialog. When placing a crafting order
• 52:19
  for an item, the player cannot equip.
• 52:22
  So if there is an item that you can't, Equip it will say, hey,
• 52:26
  are you sure you want to do this?
• 52:28
  You can't equip it, which you would think that, that would be
• 52:33
  something that would have been in there in the first go-round,
• 52:37
  but apparently wasn't there. Yeah.
• 52:41
  I mean it's a nice little safety rail.
• 52:44
  I would I would hate to have been one of those people who
• 52:47
  like was like, okay I'm going to set up my crafting order and
• 52:50
  then it's like, oh no, I thought this was a one-handed mace but
• 52:53
  it's actually a one-handed Axe and I can't use one-handed axes
• 52:57
  or something along those lines, right?
• 52:59
  I think that's what that's where it would really hurt in a
• 53:03
  crafting order because you're using up these reagents and
• 53:05
  there's no way of undoing it. Yeah.
• 53:08
  The other thing, the only other thing that I think My dad would
• 53:10
  be like, hey, your current specialization is a hint based
• 53:16
  specialization in this is a agility acts.
• 53:19
  What are you doing? It would be.
• 53:22
  It would be nice for that to also be included in that.
• 53:25
  But there are, I can only imagine the people might want it
• 53:31
  for the transmog. That's true.
• 53:33
  They're like, oh crack at Frankfurt, transmog foot.
• 53:36
  But like that's how the conversation went to would still
• 53:38
  allow the yeah. Right?
• 53:40
  Yeah, the the confirmation when it was just to say like, hey,
• 53:43
  take it, take a second here, take it.
• 53:44
  Take a step back, you sure. But that's, that's basically all
• 53:53
  the big stuff that's coming. Of course, there are a lot of
• 53:57
  other tuning passes to, to the, to, the raids and Dungeons.
• 54:04
  And also this hole a hole sir tation on class changes that are
• 54:12
  coming into and point 0.5 included in the patch notes,
• 54:15
  which we have Linked In the show notes, if you want to go check
• 54:18
  them out yourself, but yeah, So at this time, I'd like to take
• 54:23
  the time to thank our viewers, who have given us five star
• 54:28
  reviews this week. We would like to thank Richard J
• 54:32
  who gave us a five star review over on iTunes.
• 54:35
  It really does help us reach new listeners and it's the best way
• 54:38
  to support the show in a non-monetary fashion.
• 54:41
  Thank you again Richard J. And with that, we're going to
• 54:45
  talk about an interview that nagura did with lead encounter
• 54:49
  designer, Matt Villiers And this was about Mythic Keystone
• 54:54
  dungeons. So, in this interview they went
• 54:58
  through a number of different things that have been on the
• 55:02
  minds of people as we've gone through.
• 55:03
  Mythic plus, remember this is the expansion where they have
• 55:06
  made Mythic plus actually more difficult at the higher end and
• 55:10
  extended the rewards up to 20. Meaning people have been trying
• 55:13
  to push harder and so balancing has been more in question.
• 55:18
  But there have been a lot of Comments about the ethics like
• 55:26
  how different it is to do thundering.
• 55:30
  I have actually seen some people calling it, the worst affix
• 55:33
  since infested, which is, which is a really vicious claim to
• 55:39
  make but they are set down and got a couple of really good
• 55:46
  answers out of Matt Village. One thing that the team is
• 55:51
  looking at is planning ahead for the longer bosses that will
• 55:54
  occur in Mythic plus. So when they have things like
• 55:58
  fire that gets dropped on the floor, it now will disappear
• 56:03
  where it's before? They'd be like.
• 56:04
  Yeah you would kill the boss before this now as you go higher
• 56:08
  and higher and keys and the boss should take longer and longer,
• 56:11
  they make sure that the fire will eventually disappear.
• 56:14
  So that it doesn't become pretty much a hard and rage mechanic of
• 56:18
  owed entire room. Covered with fire.
• 56:20
  So they're thinking about that as they are designing, the
• 56:22
  bosses for Mythic plus. They're also thinking about how
• 56:26
  they enable a player to do choice in either routing or
• 56:32
  doing other clever tricks with in a dungeon it is something
• 56:37
  where When they said they weren't doing dungeons before,
• 56:43
  Mists of Pandaria, this kind of comes into play, because a lot
• 56:47
  of those early dungeons were long winding single path sort of
• 56:51
  things when we were doing some dungeons, even in the older
• 56:57
  expansions like let's let's face it, iron docks and the Grim
• 57:05
  Braille. Those are very Straight run
• 57:09
  Dungeons and there aren't really passing options.
• 57:11
  So I really dislike the community shows that, but I'm
• 57:14
  glad that the team of designers are thinking about routing
• 57:18
  options. Clever tricks, you can do to
• 57:20
  like improve and cut Corners in the routes They then went on to
• 57:29
  say that they are mindful of our P.
• 57:32
  Another time sink in Mythic plus they want to keep that in mind
• 57:38
  when they are making new dungeon.
• 57:39
  So you're not stuck there waiting for some character to
• 57:42
  like go blah blah blah blah blah, or one of the more recent
• 57:47
  examples is Mari. In the temple of the Jade
• 57:52
  serpent, who wouldn't die right away.
• 57:56
  It's like, listen your health at zero.
• 57:57
  Up dead, let's move. But there would be just a delay
• 58:02
  before, you know, Bart would fall over.
• 58:06
  So they've made changes in some cases in some cases older
• 58:10
  dungeons, they really didn't want to mess with it, they made
• 58:15
  the example of Halls of Valor, but Even though Odin speaks
• 58:21
  wherever they adjusted the time accordingly, and in new
• 58:25
  dungeons, they won't make such issues with that.
• 58:32
  They have also been looking at Randomness that can occur in
• 58:36
  dungeons, the example they gave was fenrir in the halls of
• 58:39
  Valor. Fenrir could either spawn where
• 58:42
  you have to make a left or you have to make a right?
• 58:45
  And you have to follow the tracks to determine which way he
• 58:48
  is, in the Mythic plus version that we are in the season.
• 58:51
  He is always on a, right? So you can plan accordingly, you
• 58:56
  can, you don't have to stall and be like, okay, which way is he
• 59:00
  this week? This is Thing that you could see
• 59:04
  if they had made a similar decision in Mythic dungeons that
• 59:08
  we saw in care is an right, you see and literate lower cares and
• 59:13
  which play is up this week, right?
• 59:17
  Can like vastly change how your time is and so having a
• 59:22
  consistent play would mean that you would have a consistent
• 59:25
  time. and then of course, for dungeons that they're creating
• 59:29
  now they try to avoid such RNG Anna gear, then.
• 59:38
  Move the topics over to, of course affixes.
• 59:42
  And this is when they started talking about the seasonal affix
• 59:44
  thundering. So number of things that they
• 59:48
  talked about with thundering is that the aim of it was to be a
• 59:52
  lighter, a fix, and, and more flavorful.
• 59:55
  It is very close to what razza gift does within her final.
• 1:00:00
  And within her encounter, I think phase two is when she does
• 1:00:05
  the polarization of the raid and And this is much very similar to
• 1:00:10
  that. It is very rare, as agathe I
• 1:00:15
  know some people dislike it. I know some people have picked
• 1:00:20
  up just being like, okay, soon as it happens, clear it and just
• 1:00:23
  move on so that it doesn't take up the Mind space.
• 1:00:26
  I know some players who have gone and tried to maximize it to
• 1:00:31
  hold onto that buff as long as possible.
• 1:00:33
  Before removing it there, Gary had also About like sometimes
• 1:00:39
  that tank will get one of the buff that need to be cleared
• 1:00:41
  because there will be three of one polarization and will be two
• 1:00:46
  of the other if the tank is one of the two, then somebody has to
• 1:00:50
  run and negate the buff with the tank and with frontal Cleves and
• 1:00:55
  everything that the tank is dealing with.
• 1:00:57
  It's something that they are looking at to that they might
• 1:01:01
  adjust. I would say, simply the Quick
• 1:01:04
  Fix would be to make sure that the tank is always getting one
• 1:01:09
  of the, like dbm marks, it as a blue, and the gear said, blue
• 1:01:14
  buff, even though that is a product of dbm and not a product
• 1:01:18
  of the actual game, but if the tank was always to get the blue
• 1:01:21
  buff, then you could also be like, oh, it's not safe to deal
• 1:01:25
  with the tank all go tag the Healer all go tag.
• 1:01:27
  The other DPS of has the the Opposite buff.
• 1:01:33
  And that might be the way to adjust it, but we've seen people
• 1:01:37
  go really far with this. We've seen people learning this
• 1:01:42
  as they're going up in the season and some people who
• 1:01:46
  haven't quite reached that that level yet, and so haven't had a
• 1:01:50
  chance to really play with it. And so, mr.
• 1:01:53
  Villiers had said they are looking at things and they're
• 1:01:57
  going to see how it goes. But it's too early to make a A
• 1:02:01
  response right now. How is your?
• 1:02:08
  Mythic plus been going. Are you like going through like
• 1:02:10
  the plus tens with this affix and if so how was your
• 1:02:14
  experience being with thundering?
• 1:02:17
  So my experience with thundering has been in like Guild groups.
• 1:02:22
  Only like going people that that are like a little bit more
• 1:02:27
  coordinated. So I think the highest everyone
• 1:02:29
  is like a 16 that didn't get timed but we weren't trying to
• 1:02:35
  time it so it's fine. But I've I run a few that were
• 1:02:39
  between between 10 and 15 so definitely definitely, you know,
• 1:02:44
  dealing with the Thundering affix.
• 1:02:47
  But for the most part it's been pretty much just like, okay,
• 1:02:50
  we'll get it, we'll get a few stacks off and and try and use a
• 1:02:56
  little bit of it but we're not going to try and like milk it
• 1:02:58
  for everything that it's worth and it served us pretty well.
• 1:03:02
  It's not really that annoying. It doesn't really like take
• 1:03:07
  anything. I'm away from it.
• 1:03:09
  Like it's it's, I will say, I will say this about it.
• 1:03:14
  The one thing the one time that I do, notice it, is when we just
• 1:03:18
  clear a boss or just clear like a big pack of of trash, And get
• 1:03:27
  the the affix trigger. When you know, you're going to
• 1:03:31
  be like running for a little bit before you're able to use it.
• 1:03:35
  Use the actual buff, but you don't want to like have it going
• 1:03:39
  so that your city, your healer doesn't have to you know, do
• 1:03:42
  anything extra that best when the ethics feels bad, like it's
• 1:03:48
  not, it's not the like waiting for it and letting it go off,
• 1:03:53
  that feels bad because that's it's pretty easy.
• 1:03:55
  See to deal with especially in an organized group where you're,
• 1:03:58
  you know, you're sitting in voice comes with with the people
• 1:04:01
  that you're running with and you're able to, you know,
• 1:04:03
  coordinate a little bit easier but I do not want to imagine
• 1:04:10
  what it's like dealing with this affix in a pug.
• 1:04:12
  I do not. I don't, I don't want to know
• 1:04:17
  just know. Well, I think in the pickup
• 1:04:21
  groups that I have been in the, there are people Will default to
• 1:04:26
  I'm going to clear this immediately and there are times
• 1:04:32
  where I like I've said it Chad's like, hey if there's an option,
• 1:04:34
  leave me the hell alone. I'll take the buff, all right,
• 1:04:37
  or it's like I will clear on the tank if possible.
• 1:04:42
  So a little communication ahead of time to have that
• 1:04:44
  coordination, but yeah, it does feel like a effects that greatly
• 1:04:49
  rewards, the groups that are able to communicate better and I
• 1:04:54
  think Think that some of the worst times it comes up is when
• 1:04:59
  it's like, oh, we're in the middle of a like just running,
• 1:05:05
  what's a running back to from killing fin rare, and you don't
• 1:05:09
  want to stop cuz you want to get back to the hall.
• 1:05:12
  But suddenly it goes off. And it's like, okay, all right,
• 1:05:14
  who's got what? Let's stop and do this.
• 1:05:16
  And that like the fact that can happen at these weird
• 1:05:19
  inopportune times is the words and to their credit.
• 1:05:25
  Matt had said that there are small periods where it won't
• 1:05:30
  occur when they know. Oh, everybody has to stack up.
• 1:05:34
  I think example that I can think of is that I've never had it go
• 1:05:40
  off right before. Odin will pull everybody in and
• 1:05:45
  then big explosion. I've never seen it.
• 1:05:48
  Really go off at that point and I think it's likely that there
• 1:05:51
  is this like Blackout Window that starts even before that.
• 1:05:55
  Leti goes off to make sure that it's not like.
• 1:05:57
  Okay everybody gets pulled in and you gotta run out but
• 1:06:00
  legally also got a clear that one things One thing, one thing
• 1:06:06
  that I'm thankful for is is both Bracken hide Hollow and Halls.
• 1:06:10
  Infusion not being in rotation for the CSUN with this efex
• 1:06:14
  because the the gauntlets in both of those dungeons would be
• 1:06:18
  even worse. I don't, I'd like no one would
• 1:06:21
  do that. Do those keys if they, if they
• 1:06:23
  got those dungeons with this affix.
• 1:06:26
  So I'm hoping I'm hoping that next season's affix when those
• 1:06:29
  dungeons are in, will be something that is a little bit.
• 1:06:35
  maybe, maybe not easier to deal with in between fights, but I
• 1:06:44
  don't know what I would want for it, but one thing that I wanted
• 1:06:46
  to bring up with something that that nagar I had brought up in
• 1:06:49
  this interview around this topic as well which was that like one
• 1:06:54
  of the big pain points with that with that ethics is on the tank.
• 1:06:58
  Specifically because the tanks are also included in the in the,
• 1:07:05
  the RNG of who gets affected by this by this debuff, and they
• 1:07:10
  still also have to clear it, and just pointing out that like
• 1:07:13
  there, there's a whole lot of other stuff that's needing to be
• 1:07:17
  juggled by the tanks that that having that added on top of it
• 1:07:23
  has, at least in her experience like caused caused issues that
• 1:07:29
  have led to wipes because because the tanks were included
• 1:07:32
  in Or the tank for, for their dungeons was included in that
• 1:07:41
  and on top of all the things that tanks have to do in order
• 1:07:45
  for a, for a Mythic plus to run smoothly and just kind of seems
• 1:07:49
  a little bit unfair. And I think the comment was just
• 1:07:51
  like, yeah, we like basically acknowledging that yes, there is
• 1:07:59
  there's a lot more juggling that takes have to do but that but
• 1:08:03
  they're still pretty. You pleased with how the the
• 1:08:06
  affix turned out. Yeah, I think in my experience
• 1:08:11
  so far, especially you have like just said, like, I will take it
• 1:08:16
  on myself to clear with the tank.
• 1:08:17
  Well, I will be looking at especially like as I've gotten
• 1:08:22
  more kids custom to the dungeons.
• 1:08:24
  I will be looking at like, oh, is a frontal about to come out
• 1:08:28
  from from these guys? Should I like maybe throw down a
• 1:08:31
  stun if they can be stunned. Doran a quick little
• 1:08:35
  incapacitate so I can quickly just run in and clear.
• 1:08:38
  Like it's not like I have to clear at exactly this second
• 1:08:42
  unless I'm trying to maximize my by damage, right?
• 1:08:46
  I can say like, oh man, this packs, kind of crazy.
• 1:08:49
  If I run in there, I'm going to kill myself, right?
• 1:08:52
  Is the increase of DPS, right? The reward of like risking it
• 1:08:58
  right worth the biscuit. Is it worth the five seconds?
• 1:09:01
  I will happen if I try and clear and Oh, I get myself frontal,
• 1:09:05
  like the tangle survive, but I'll get killed, right?
• 1:09:08
  Yeah. And that's something that as a
• 1:09:10
  DPS, maybe it's on me, right? If like, if we're in a
• 1:09:14
  coordinated team, like I can make that call.
• 1:09:16
  If we're in a not coordinated team.
• 1:09:19
  Like yeah, it's going to be harder to pull.
• 1:09:22
  The tank is going to have to deal with more things.
• 1:09:25
  I know groups are using. We course again, you could see
• 1:09:28
  it. Does the fact that negara and
• 1:09:30
  the way that she he discussed this was definitely Using
• 1:09:34
  add-ons using we cores to help overcome this but that debuff
• 1:09:39
  last sorcery that debuff, that you have to clear last a good
• 1:09:43
  long time and not in every moment of that time is the tank,
• 1:09:50
  getting bombarded with frontals and Cleaves and, and stuff.
• 1:09:55
  So, maybe pick a moment just after, like, the last clue the
• 1:10:00
  last frontal from a very high priority Target Dip your toe in
• 1:10:05
  and Claire, or stun the ads and Claire, or anything.
• 1:10:10
  That, like, people have utility for this and I and so again,
• 1:10:13
  when he responded said yeah, we're not quite at the point
• 1:10:17
  where we want to make these changes.
• 1:10:19
  I agree with that because like I feel like the player May
• 1:10:21
  sometimes, either underestimates itself or is to ready to
• 1:10:25
  complain or maybe a mixture of the two, right?
• 1:10:28
  And that might sound arrogant, but like I got my butt kicked
• 1:10:33
  this week. 20. I was like dying in that the
• 1:10:37
  lowest and I said, all this the beginning of the of the show I'm
• 1:10:41
  not going around, being like, Oh, I'm the greatest areas and
• 1:10:43
  everybody get to my level know, there are people so far beyond
• 1:10:46
  me, hmm, but I still think it's possible for people at my level
• 1:10:53
  people who are not even thinking of going into like tends to even
• 1:10:58
  deal with this affix just yet. And I don't think it's time to
• 1:11:03
  like take out. All the fangs, and all the
• 1:11:05
  possible, bad circumstances that can come from this affix because
• 1:11:09
  it is actually quite forgiving, in my opinion.
• 1:11:12
  Yeah, that was, that was one of the points that the villagers
• 1:11:15
  brought up, was that they, they want these, they want these
• 1:11:22
  experiences in Mythic plus to be something that That and I'm
• 1:11:29
  paraphrasing here but they want these experiences to be
• 1:11:33
  something that the challenge players to utilize the full
• 1:11:37
  extent of their tool kits. To learn the the tool kits, they
• 1:11:43
  have available to them and learn when when when it's appropriate
• 1:11:49
  to use things when it may be inappropriate to use things like
• 1:11:53
  like popping popping bloodless too early or that's that's kind
• 1:12:00
  of like a more broad thing on bosses.
• 1:12:02
  But like you get you get the idea like doing a stunt or early
• 1:12:05
  or like not getting you're not. Getting your placement on your
• 1:12:12
  Earth. Grab totem just right or wind
• 1:12:15
  Rush totem. Just right.
• 1:12:17
  And like not being not understanding the, the, the full
• 1:12:24
  capability of either of those tools Beyond thundering.
• 1:12:30
  They are looking at it and how it interacts, with bosses and
• 1:12:33
  how people are doing of it because they're open to
• 1:12:35
  experimentation with seasonal affixes in the future.
• 1:12:39
  And so, Villiers. I was saying that the team is
• 1:12:43
  looking at stuff. We may see some completely
• 1:12:48
  different effects has in the future that don't interact with
• 1:12:52
  boss encounters. At all things that are more
• 1:12:54
  controllable. I do like the controllable ones
• 1:12:57
  in some ways but I also dislike things like let's say prideful
• 1:13:03
  or yeah, I think prideful is the best because there were times
• 1:13:07
  that people would go and they would Would have prideful be
• 1:13:11
  ready for a particular boss. And then if they wiped on the
• 1:13:15
  boss, they wouldn't have prideful anymore and it was
• 1:13:17
  almost as if they scuffed the key.
• 1:13:18
  There was, there was no way to recover from that.
• 1:13:21
  So it being controllable is is a double-edged sword, right?
• 1:13:27
  It being random is a double-edged sword.
• 1:13:30
  So, there's a lot of things to consider.
• 1:13:32
  I don't know where things will be going, but I got a question
• 1:13:37
  for you. And I have a question for the
• 1:13:38
  viewers, but I'll ask you at first.
• 1:13:40
  Of course because you're in front of me and the viewers will
• 1:13:42
  be listening to this days later, what was your favorite affix of
• 1:13:47
  all of Mythic plus that you have personally experienced?
• 1:13:52
  It was one of the BFA ones. You can describe it.
• 1:13:57
  It was like prideful, but it had, it had the like additional
• 1:14:02
  mini-bosses kind of thing that spined You mean be encoded one
• 1:14:09
  that came with season 3 where you would kill the boss and you
• 1:14:13
  get to pick between, as I know, that's wasn't encoded.
• 1:14:16
  It was the one where you could kill the boss and pick between
• 1:14:20
  the powers. That was that came with sanctum
• 1:14:23
  of domination. Now, because it was in BFA
• 1:14:26
  opium, right? Yeah.
• 1:14:27
  It was like, I'm remembering and remembering fondly at Kings,
• 1:14:33
  Rest, or several Kings restaurants with That ethics
• 1:14:39
  that I can't. Oh gosh.
• 1:14:40
  Was it was like, okay, so I'm going to go through all of bef,
• 1:14:44
  a BFA started with infested people hated infested, then it
• 1:14:48
  went to the one where boss Huang di would reanimate all of the
• 1:14:53
  things, every twenty percent and those would attack you and so
• 1:14:57
  that probably wouldn't be what you're talking about.
• 1:14:59
  Then we went to beguiling which was those different guys in
• 1:15:04
  there that would have a bubble of effect that would do
• 1:15:06
  different things I hated beguiling.
• 1:15:08
  Then in season four, we had our first kiss curse affix and that
• 1:15:14
  was the different mini-bosses right that you could kill.
• 1:15:22
  And then at the if you didn't kill them at the final boss,
• 1:15:25
  they would all spawn in. You have to kill them.
• 1:15:27
  Is that the one you were talking about some final season.
• 1:15:30
  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I can't remember the name of it but that's the one I would say
• 1:15:33
  corrupted most likely but who knows?
• 1:15:35
  Yeah. Something like that.
• 1:15:38
  But yeah, you could definitely work with back and forth.
• 1:15:42
  Hmm, yeah, it was an interesting way to for them to be able to
• 1:15:46
  add skips into into the dungeon. So it gave, it gave the added
• 1:15:53
  benefit of of having having the ability to create new pathways
• 1:15:59
  through the dungeon that I really thoroughly enjoyed
• 1:16:02
  because it was something, it was bringing more change than just,
• 1:16:06
  like, here's a different way. You or you know additional thing
• 1:16:11
  that you have to deal with while doing this Mythic plus dungeon.
• 1:16:15
  You now have an additional tool at your disposal to to like
• 1:16:20
  completely change how you go through the dungeon, which I
• 1:16:23
  thought was pretty fantastic and I don't think that anything that
• 1:16:26
  radical since then with with Mythic plus.
• 1:16:30
  So I would like to see them try to do something crazy like that
• 1:16:34
  again, but I don't I don't know what that would actually.
• 1:16:38
  You look like in the context of dragon flight, I don't know what
• 1:16:41
  it could look like, but I'm sure I'm sure someone at blizzard.
• 1:16:44
  If they are thinking about doing something like that, they've got
• 1:16:47
  ideas that they're that they've been pouring over four months.
• 1:16:51
  If not years at this point. Oh yeah, I'm sure they have
• 1:16:53
  like, a collection of ideas that they are like, oh, we won't do
• 1:16:57
  that this season but we'll come back to it in another season and
• 1:17:00
  then they come through until I go these past ideas, you any of
• 1:17:02
  these seem kind of on on theme for it and then they see.
• 1:17:08
  If that will work, I would love to see what we get in the
• 1:17:13
  future. Obviously, we still got 10 .07
• 1:17:16
  to go through and then we'll be in season 2.
• 1:17:21
  I would love to sit down and talk about how season one has
• 1:17:25
  been so far and and get sort of an impression of the opening
• 1:17:30
  chapter for shadowlands. Their dragon flight or so yeah,
• 1:17:35
  for dragon fight my apology, you can't shadowlands On the my,
• 1:17:39
  yeah, because I was thinking of encoding and that, that that to
• 1:17:42
  answer my own question, that's correct.
• 1:17:44
  Currently my favorite was encoded where you could spawn a
• 1:17:47
  little guy kill it, get a temporary buff and that would
• 1:17:51
  allow you to do a bunch of things.
• 1:17:52
  And there were some times where you would take the one that
• 1:17:55
  would allow you to stealth to skip.
• 1:17:57
  So you would get those little skips or there would be ones
• 1:18:00
  where you could just get like a big damage buff and just start
• 1:18:04
  pulling like, very aggressively. So there were, I like that one.
• 1:18:08
  One. As a, as a ethics.
• 1:18:13
  And I don't think that required too much thought, but obviously,
• 1:18:18
  they shouldn't keep doing that over and over again.
• 1:18:20
  Yeah. The last part of the interview
• 1:18:23
  was regarding class balance and the main points of that was that
• 1:18:29
  all of the classes should be able to do a 20.
• 1:18:33
  That's what they are aiming for in terms of class balanced in
• 1:18:36
  terms of the dungeon difficulty, they want to fight whatever the
• 1:18:42
  Metter can concept is so that people aren't constantly taking
• 1:18:48
  the same class / spec over and over again.
• 1:18:52
  In that mind we've seen, of course, last episode, we talked
• 1:18:55
  about the Nerf to Outlaw, right? But on top of that, just having
• 1:19:00
  good utility on all of these classes and specs so that you
• 1:19:05
  can remove raging and when those weeks are there and that gives
• 1:19:12
  Druids and other classes, the like Hunters, the ability to
• 1:19:16
  shine on those weeks. The fact that Paladin's can like
• 1:19:20
  if you have to Ins basically, they delete all of the explosive
• 1:19:26
  bombs this week in a passive way so that they can just focus on
• 1:19:30
  dpsing and that's amazing. So I think that if they do that
• 1:19:38
  it should be good. They are also aware that just
• 1:19:43
  boosting damage. Numbers isn't exactly going to
• 1:19:47
  help also will disrupt other form.
• 1:19:50
  So like you know you boost the damage on various and suddenly
• 1:19:52
  they're disgusting and PV and it's like oh crap.
• 1:19:56
  Hmm. They also want to check out
• 1:19:58
  utility. I think that looking at
• 1:20:01
  dragonflight Not just the dungeons that are in turn do for
• 1:20:06
  dragon fight. But also the dungeons that
• 1:20:07
  they're pulling into the rotation for season one that has
• 1:20:11
  allowed different utility to work.
• 1:20:13
  There are Undead creatures, and shadowmoon, burial grounds.
• 1:20:17
  So that means that hey shackle Undead has a place right or
• 1:20:23
  their stuff for paladins to do the little bit more.
• 1:20:26
  There is different mob, and pack constructions.
• 1:20:30
  So, there are packs that are Swarms of enemies.
• 1:20:36
  And there are packs that are just like three big bruisers and
• 1:20:39
  that changes the damage profile, which means that certain specs
• 1:20:45
  are going to do really well in, like to Target cleave looking at
• 1:20:49
  like Devastation warlocks versus big AOE packs, right?
• 1:20:53
  And I think that's a big thing. One thing I do find is that
• 1:20:58
  there's a lot of things that need interrupts like, maybe too
• 1:21:02
  many. Which seems to favor melee more
• 1:21:04
  than it does range, and I think that they should maybe look at
• 1:21:08
  that. But they've done things, just
• 1:21:10
  like they said in his interview removing the cast from the
• 1:21:13
  little fire Elementals, in Ruby life pulse was a big part of
• 1:21:17
  that. So it's an ongoing process.
• 1:21:19
  I'm glad that they are content, they're adjusting things.
• 1:21:23
  I know that there's been a huge amount of balance changes to
• 1:21:28
  these dungeons, over the last bit, since we've come back.
• 1:21:33
  Back from Christmas break. And in fact, even last night
• 1:21:37
  there was some major changes to dungeons including Ruby life
• 1:21:41
  walls. Yet again to make sure that
• 1:21:44
  people weren't looking at Dungeons and being like, oh well
• 1:21:47
  that dungeon that's like adding three item levels.
• 1:21:50
  Sorry adding three levels to the Keystone or that dungeon so
• 1:21:53
  easy. That it's like removing three
• 1:21:55
  items three levels from the Keystone.
• 1:22:00
  That was the last part of the interview that I want to.
• 1:22:03
  Mention is that while they are of course quicker too.
• 1:22:07
  Reduce the difficulty of dungeons to bring it more in
• 1:22:10
  line with where they wanted it to be there more, there are more
• 1:22:16
  resistant to making dungeons harder unless it's something way
• 1:22:23
  out of line. Like again Shadow Mountain Moon,
• 1:22:25
  burial grounds that last boss there was a trick to completely
• 1:22:30
  ignore one of the mechanics and burn it down.
• 1:22:33
  And so it got a reputation where it's like, oh yeah, do Shadow
• 1:22:37
  Moon. Because that last boss doesn't
• 1:22:39
  actually exist. Congratulations like knocking
• 1:22:41
  five minutes off your time. And so they had to make the
• 1:22:44
  change that to actually make the last boss mechanic work as they
• 1:22:49
  intended, you to deal with it rather than use a locked gate or
• 1:22:52
  some sort of skip to get around it.
• 1:22:54
  With that said, there is one last story that we want to
• 1:22:58
  cover. And that is what's happening
• 1:23:02
  with World of Warcraft and old couple of Blizzard properties in
• 1:23:07
  China. So as we've reported in the past
• 1:23:11
  a BK and Nettie's are going their separate ways, that means
• 1:23:16
  that a BK and blizzard specifically will not have a
• 1:23:22
  partner in China to deal with the blizzard IPS and manage the
• 1:23:27
  games that were being done in China.
• 1:23:29
  That includes World of Warcraft. That includes games like
• 1:23:36
  Hearthstone and even though it's not being supported anymore,
• 1:23:40
  other games like Heroes of the Storm, this doesn't include
• 1:23:46
  Diablo Immortal because that is a separate contract.
• 1:23:48
  Hmm. I suspect that that contract is
• 1:23:52
  not getting renewed based on what we've been hearing lately
• 1:23:56
  blizzard and Nettie's, both put out a statement because blizzard
• 1:23:59
  was attempting to extend the current contract by six months
• 1:24:04
  while I negotiated a new contract Nettie's put out a
• 1:24:07
  statement last, but blizzard had said, oh, it's unfortunate that
• 1:24:11
  we weren't able to get this going forward.
• 1:24:13
  Nettie's was a far more telling in details from their end.
• 1:24:17
  And again, this is from Nettie's but they had said that blizzard
• 1:24:22
  was not talking to them about doing a actual extended contract
• 1:24:28
  Beyond six months, only the six-month contract while they
• 1:24:31
  were actively negotiating with competitors about A long-term
• 1:24:35
  contract and they felt that that was in bad in bad taste or in
• 1:24:39
  bad faith. They went so far as to demolish
• 1:24:46
  installations of that they had with blizzard including like,
• 1:24:50
  you know, the gorehowl lacks that they had on a piece of
• 1:24:53
  property and the blizzard logo that they had in in one of their
• 1:24:59
  offices and they live streamed. It While they were pulling it
• 1:25:05
  apart. And not only that, they gave
• 1:25:08
  away free green tea, like a redeem code.
• 1:25:13
  So it's or some sort of promotion, so that you could get
• 1:25:16
  green tea for for this. And I didn't know this, but
• 1:25:25
  reading into this, it turns out that that is a local custom
• 1:25:32
  which is meant to say. Say that it's a modern Chinese
• 1:25:37
  slur which refers to a manipulative person who tries to
• 1:25:42
  appear wholesome. Innocent more traditional but is
• 1:25:45
  decidedly not. So and the Wowhead article that
• 1:25:50
  I'm referring to and quoting here says that, that is the nice
• 1:25:53
  way of putting it. I I don't think that I'm
• 1:25:59
  qualified to to comment on the The future of this of this, you
• 1:26:07
  know, like whatever deals. The the blizzard may have in the
• 1:26:11
  future with with with any Chinese companies for publishing
• 1:26:14
  over in China, I definitely have no idea what's going on, what
• 1:26:19
  they may or may not have on the table but I can say with full
• 1:26:25
  confidence that watching the pettiness of Nettie's is like
• 1:26:30
  I'm here I'm so here for it so here for It in so many ways.
• 1:26:35
  It's so good. It's so good to watch.
• 1:26:38
  I mean like I do I'm not privy to the details just like you're
• 1:26:41
  not privy to the details. I'm not going to comment on who
• 1:26:45
  may or may not be the bad guy in this situation.
• 1:26:48
  It is clear that their relationship has very much
• 1:26:52
  soured. I am not sure.
• 1:26:54
  Who tried to broker the deal with machetes, and who took a
• 1:26:58
  14-year agreement and working relationship and soured it.
• 1:27:03
  So, so much in such a time and this is not the first time we
• 1:27:09
  have seen from that. He's talking about, Bad actors
• 1:27:14
  on the part of Blizzard. But like, I'm not going to go
• 1:27:18
  fully into speculation on this part.
• 1:27:20
  I have heard some Scutter Scuttle Bug, some rumors, but I
• 1:27:24
  don't know anything for sure. So I'm not going to like report
• 1:27:26
  it here as fact, but that kind of animosity.
• 1:27:33
  Requires some coaxing. You don't get that from nothing.
• 1:27:37
  Yeah. You've got to inspire somebody
• 1:27:40
  to like publicly act that way towards a business partner.
• 1:27:45
  Yeah former or otherwise yeah to to invoke the vary wildly
• 1:27:51
  specific burn basically like to invoke that that's that's crazy.
• 1:28:01
  But this isn't just people in the boardroom on the opposite
• 1:28:04
  sides of the table, getting angry and walking away.
• 1:28:08
  This is upsetting somebody so that they go, you know what,
• 1:28:13
  screw this deal. I don't care if we get more
• 1:28:16
  money for the next six months, we're not doing it.
• 1:28:19
  And we're going to spend money trashing a former partner
• 1:28:24
  setting up a stream of we're tearing everything down.
• 1:28:29
  That connects us to you, Putting outposts that say they did this
• 1:28:36
  without our authorization, you're taking your own risks,
• 1:28:39
  doing it. Good luck to you because
• 1:28:42
  blizzard apparently unilaterally put forward a progress archival
• 1:28:47
  feature without net, he's having any kind of consideration in it.
• 1:28:53
  And so, nowadays is like, listen, it's in the game, you do
• 1:28:56
  what you want, we don't have anything to do with it, and now
• 1:29:00
  there's issues. It people who have used this are
• 1:29:03
  now having difficulty logging in to the to the game and doing
• 1:29:08
  anything further right in the little bit of time that they
• 1:29:12
  will have before those servers shut down.
• 1:29:15
  Right. And today, as we're speaking,
• 1:29:18
  it's pretty much the last day, right?
• 1:29:21
  These servers are shutting down and people who would have wanted
• 1:29:25
  to play. Just the last little bit and
• 1:29:27
  they're like, okay, let me use the archive.
• 1:29:28
  And let me just get my last little bit of play because it
• 1:29:31
  doesn't know when this is coming back.
• 1:29:33
  So players, obviously, don't know when it's coming back and
• 1:29:36
  this screwed up their last little bit of time.
• 1:29:40
  And what are they going to do? Go to Nettie's Nettie's is like
• 1:29:43
  you listen. This isn't us.
• 1:29:44
  We didn't do anything with it. We can't support you.
• 1:29:47
  Like it's just a bad player experience.
• 1:29:49
  It's a bad business experience. Both of them look bad.
• 1:29:56
  Hmm. As much as you can read and we
• 1:30:01
  have it in the show notes, you can read the statement that was
• 1:30:05
  put out by John height again. Thank you, Wowhead.
• 1:30:10
  They put forward the update and of course translated it because
• 1:30:15
  it was not Something that I would be able to translate.
• 1:30:21
  I do not have any kind of scale for that but it was translated
• 1:30:26
  and then The Nettie's response is.
• 1:30:34
  Les. Reserved, right?
• 1:30:38
  But that also could mean that it's Earnest and people can make
• 1:30:42
  up their own minds about this, but It is unfortunate for all of
• 1:30:49
  the World of Warcraft fans within China who will no longer
• 1:30:53
  be able to play the game because of somebody trying to make a bad
• 1:30:59
  deal or destroy a relationship and make a deal with somebody
• 1:31:03
  else. And this will hurt Blizzard's
• 1:31:07
  position as they try and find a new partner because they have
• 1:31:10
  fans that are hurting and they have more of a desperation to
• 1:31:16
  work with these fan work with these companies because they
• 1:31:21
  don't have any other option and they remove their other option.
• 1:31:25
  Yeah. Anyways, that is going to do it
• 1:31:29
  for us this week. I do want to thank you live for
• 1:31:34
  going through this with me. I know I had a little bit of a
• 1:31:36
  rant on that APK Nettie's, but when you're not hearing me,
• 1:31:40
  complain, and you're off doing your own thing.
• 1:31:43
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• 1:31:55
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• 1:31:59
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• 1:32:02
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• 1:32:07
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• 1:32:35
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• 1:32:41
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