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Patriots Unfiltered 3/29: Kraft and Belichick at NFL Meetings, Addition of S Jabill Peppers · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Dude, you missed a lot on the day
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  Speaker 1: I was scared of you, Paul, and I needed to,
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  Speaker 1: to get away from Paul, right, that's what I like.
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  Speaker 1: and we took a bit of a shot last year.
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  Speaker 1: like sit here, it's just shot at me. I actually
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  Speaker 1: shot at me for talking all the time. So I
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  Speaker 1: think Bolin, you know, saying he's very excited, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited. I'm excited these owners. Mean, he's got
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  Speaker 1: me going. You know, Bill's talking talk for half an hour.
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  Speaker 1: Then the owner talked this morning. We'll have that in
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  Speaker 1: full on Patriots dot com. You know, I'm you know, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting ready, We're getting closer. I got excited with
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers joined practice thing, just like it's coming at
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  Speaker 1: about that real football up here. That stuff that that excited.
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  Speaker 1: That's here. Yeah, Panthers are coming uh for UH joint
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  Speaker 1: practice this training camp. I guess um Matt Rule had
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  Speaker 1: said that it just needed to be approved. Yeah, no
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  Speaker 1: league approval, but I mean that sounds to me like
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  Speaker 1: a formality. Dudu has an updates. Matt Rule gonna wear
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  Speaker 1: the outfit he wore for his UH head coach. You
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  Speaker 1: saw that meme too with him. They killed. One of
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  Speaker 1: these guys won the Super Bowl. The other one is
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. Funny. It's like you wonder why Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: skips these things every year because it just becomes like
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  Speaker 1: my buddy Brandt is doing a full breakdown of everybody's outfit.
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  Speaker 1: It's like that has nothing to do with why Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 1: By my count, four coaches skipped it. I think I
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  Speaker 1: counted twenty eight in the picture. I think you're right,
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  Speaker 1: Freddy and you Reid, I didn't. I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see Andy Reid. You would have noticed him. I
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  Speaker 1: thought I did see him. I know, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he was in it. Hard to miss my thing the back. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, so much to talk about, and U I
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  Speaker 1: guess we start with Bill Belichick and Robert crafts um
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  Speaker 1: press appearances yesterday and today. Um, you know, Bill was
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  Speaker 1: his usual I'm looking forward, you know, not talk about
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  Speaker 1: how things ended last year, although Mike Reese, uh he tried,
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  Speaker 1: he tried. You know, Bill at that time said you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see if it's a one time thing or and
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  Speaker 1: Reese said, you know now that you've had more time,
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  Speaker 1: which was it, And He's like, we're looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So that was that, And I think
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  Speaker 1: you know, the people that were there, Ben voland Mike Reees,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Curran most notably for me, you know, try to
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  Speaker 1: you know, delve into you know, the philosophy for this offseason,
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  Speaker 1: you know, about not being as aggressive in free agency,
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  Speaker 1: not giving titles to coaches, you know, losing certain coaches,
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  Speaker 1: how that affects Mac Jones, all the things that we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about and that fans are concerned about. But
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  Speaker 1: Bill didn't seem that concerned about it. And that made
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  Speaker 1: me feel good. That made me feel good, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's okay. If he's okay, I'm okay. I just I'll
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  Speaker 1: leave you guys to talk about the details. Yes, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: can I ask? Can I ask at a side? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Does this now mean that they're back in the hunt? No?
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, No, I just wanted again. No, but see,
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  Speaker 1: I need to see. That means I have a challenge again.
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  Speaker 1: I have to do that now. I need to see
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  Speaker 1: more evidence if I'm going to change my posture, I
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  Speaker 1: need to see more. But at least you know Bill's okay,
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  Speaker 1: and he's he's swat and flies like he usually does,
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  Speaker 1: and that's okay. I I cracked me up his reaction.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm sure Paul tell us it was played.
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  Speaker 1: But when they asked him about Malcolm Butler and we're
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how how things ended, and he's
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  Speaker 1: like just the genuine I don't know if he's acting,
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  Speaker 1: but the genuine look of confusion of like, what like,
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  Speaker 1: it's just funny about the super Bowl Malcolm, butl you know, Malcolm,
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  Speaker 1: He's like, what, I don't not to the past, like
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  Speaker 1: it was just one of those funny moments where his
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  Speaker 1: example of and as you said, Fred, they it's just like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't call it the airing of grievances, but it's
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  Speaker 1: like every single storyline that we've talked about that is
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  Speaker 1: driving the offseason, they put it on his plate and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know, you know, and it's not
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  Speaker 1: like cons my favorite answer, I don't know. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but he has his plan, his way of doing things,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, and and as Robert said today, it
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  Speaker 1: might be a little bit outside of what we're used to,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he's he's earned it and there and
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  Speaker 1: he's going for it that way this offseason. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I think other which is one more thing and
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  Speaker 1: feed into the craft, was just that the draft the draft,
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  Speaker 1: the draft, like it's that's what I've been saying for
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  Speaker 1: all these shows off season, and I and that's where
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  Speaker 1: I think that the team is going to get well.
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  Speaker 1: That and that's that kind of dovetails into what the
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  Speaker 1: owner said today. The owner basically was, I am a
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  Speaker 1: fan just like you. I just happen to own the team,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so, you know, expressing concern about not having
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  Speaker 1: won a playoff game in three years. You know, he's
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  Speaker 1: that bothers him um, saying that you know, you're in
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  Speaker 1: order to have long term success, you have to you
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  Speaker 1: have to do well in the draft. And he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: happy with was happy with last year's draft, but not
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  Speaker 1: the four previous, which I think everyone shares that. So
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  Speaker 1: I think he expressed what fans are concerned with. He
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  Speaker 1: just happens to be the owner of the New England Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: and so, you know, fans take that as okay, you
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  Speaker 1: must have expressed those concerns to your head coach, I
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  Speaker 1: assume you know, which I'm sure he did. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, like you said, Duce, he understands that
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  Speaker 1: Bill has his own way of doing things, and it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of worked out, you know, yep, yep, Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: think what what Robert was talking about with that, I
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  Speaker 1: sort of step back, and he has his own way.
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  Speaker 1: Was the coaching staff. I don't think he was necessarily
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  Speaker 1: well about maybe he was team building or any of
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  Speaker 1: that other stuff. Specifically the I think that was a
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  Speaker 1: question about, you know, the structure of Yeah, that's probably
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  Speaker 1: Joe Judge and Matt Patricia. And he said, you know, listen,
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  Speaker 1: he has his way of doing things. And I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm paraphrasing sometimes even I don't see the
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  Speaker 1: line was the way you said it, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm more of results oriented. I think, yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 1: results business. Well, so I took that as yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's strange too. I'll be watching right your one
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  Speaker 1: on one of your shows this morning, Chris Curtis is
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  Speaker 1: that his name, That's not one of my shows, MC curtis.
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  Speaker 1: He's he said, you know, after Kraft had talked, he said,
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  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft was an outraged at um, you know, not
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  Speaker 1: having one a playoff game in three years. He's outraged.
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  Speaker 1: I never heard him say outraged. And he said that
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots got rid of Josh McDaniels. No, Josh McDaniels
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  Speaker 1: left for a head coach. They didn't get rid of them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, It's like these type of things, like and
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  Speaker 1: then people hear that, it's like yeah, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: three months from now, and of course Bill got rid
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  Speaker 1: of McDaniels. It just becomes accepted, like I'd accepted talking point.
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  Speaker 1: I really think people take their cues from a producer
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  Speaker 1: of a morning show that no one watches. I've been serious,
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  Speaker 1: even you could make an argument, even if it was
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  Speaker 1: like Greg Hill, would you main Wiggins said that Robert
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  Speaker 1: Kraft was outraged. No disrespect to Chris Curtis, he's the
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  Speaker 1: producer of the show. But but what made me think
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  Speaker 1: of that, Paul is I said what I said, and
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  Speaker 1: you said, put it in context, which is what you
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  Speaker 1: do responsibly, you know, like, let's let's be accurate about
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  Speaker 1: what these people say instead of like inserting your own word.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Well, the outrage thing changes to outrage right,
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  Speaker 1: like that's you know, and I heard him say it, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there was outrage in his voice, And
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's disappointed they haven't won a playoffs
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  Speaker 1: like we all are. And I'm sure also that was
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  Speaker 1: what he prefaced when when he said that, that was
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  Speaker 1: the part that he prefaced by saying, I'm a fan
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  Speaker 1: right first and foremost at heart, I'm a fan again paraphrasing,
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  Speaker 1: but that's what he led into that, and I'm disappointed
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  Speaker 1: that we haven't won a playoff game in three years, right,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, just the way everybody else in Patriots
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  Speaker 1: Nation is putting my fan hat on you. I think
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  Speaker 1: you'd like to hear that. You like to hear the owner,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of saying that that I'm a fan first.
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  Speaker 1: But I think, as you said, Fred, there was also
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  Speaker 1: some nice reminders in there that he is the owner
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  Speaker 1: and that the buck does stop with him, and that
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  Speaker 1: you know, it hasn't been the results that everybody wants there,
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  Speaker 1: certainly with some good stuff that happened last year, but
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  Speaker 1: you got to build on it. It's got to start
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  Speaker 1: getting better. The one thing that he said that I
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  Speaker 1: think we can debate honestly, is you know the only
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  Speaker 1: way to have the consistent success over time is through
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  Speaker 1: the draft. You know, you can debate that. You can
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  Speaker 1: debate that. He said that before, like through the twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: even with Pete Carroll, I remember them saying that and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people said, yeah, that's an excuse for
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  Speaker 1: not spending money, you know. So see, I don't look
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  Speaker 1: at it that way either, but some people, some people
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  Speaker 1: the organization there too, because I do think I mean
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  Speaker 1: the draft, I don't think it's it's splitting any atoms here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you have to you have a way to
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  Speaker 1: get young talent onto your roster right every year, affordable,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter what, every year you will
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  Speaker 1: have draft picks. And I think you know, the draft
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  Speaker 1: isn't is a very important part of your team building
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  Speaker 1: every year. Is it the only way to do it? No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not, but it's probably the best way to do
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  Speaker 1: it on a consistent basis. It's probably the you know
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  Speaker 1: you can you can throw teams that have have done
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  Speaker 1: it different ways like the Rams, And you're right. You
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  Speaker 1: know what else, The Rams have done really well in
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  Speaker 1: the last five years draft, just not at the top
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  Speaker 1: because they haven't had any first round picks, but if
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  Speaker 1: they have a litany of mid round guys, not the
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  Speaker 1: least of which is Cooper cop yep. Right. But but
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  Speaker 1: what really got the Rams over the top Matthew Matthew
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  Speaker 1: Stafford getting that quarterback, getting that quarterback, and if you
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  Speaker 1: want to sustain success in the NFL, get yourself a
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  Speaker 1: good quarterback. But that's the key. But I think people
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  Speaker 1: that would argue the other side of that would say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they got the quarterback. They didn't draft anybody, they got
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback, and that's the way that they got success.
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  Speaker 1: And they've been successful for five years. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: like this is they loaded up one year and they
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  Speaker 1: won it all. They went to the super Bowl in
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen without Stafford. Yeah, you know, doing the same
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  Speaker 1: thing like with you know, the keep to Leeds and
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  Speaker 1: the you know, then they recycle that over to Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Ramsey and all the other trades that they've made over
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  Speaker 1: the years. So there are different ways to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But but I would agree with Robert that if you
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  Speaker 1: want to consistently be able to turn your roster over
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  Speaker 1: and get you have to have some success in the draft. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the RAMS approach stands out a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But I think, as you laid out, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: is it really that much different because they have a
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  Speaker 1: core of guys that they drafted, and they went to
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  Speaker 1: free agency in trades and and maybe they spent a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more draft capital to get talented players, to
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  Speaker 1: spend first round pick used the draft picks on established talent,
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  Speaker 1: but which is fine, but not a big core of
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  Speaker 1: drafted guys and filling holes with free agents. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean I think that's guys though as more guys they acquired,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's no action. Aaron Donald Cooper cut big
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  Speaker 1: part of the team. But I agree with your your
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  Speaker 1: your premise. I'm not gonna get hung up on semantics.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with your your premise. Like you can't just
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  Speaker 1: do one thing, is my point. So to just say,
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  Speaker 1: like the only way you could do is through the draft,
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  Speaker 1: to me is wrong. Just like if you characterize the
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  Speaker 1: RAM success is just doing it by acquiring high priced players,
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  Speaker 1: that's also wrong. What I'm saying is, whether it's the
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  Speaker 1: draft or free agency, if you don't have a good quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: neither work. Sure, and they gotta have the quarterback. Look
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  Speaker 1: at all the teams with sustained success, and we can
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  Speaker 1: define that any way you want, you know, five years,
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  Speaker 1: ten years, whatever, every one of those teams had a quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Indianapolis with Manning right, Kansas City now with Mahomes, Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: with Roethlis Green Bay with Rogers. Absolutely, all these teams
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  Speaker 1: win every year, their playoff contenders every year. Yeah, I agree,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the quarterback is at the top and
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  Speaker 1: alan by itself. But I think what you're seeing with
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots over the last few years is kind of
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  Speaker 1: that most let's say most terrible, the worst place to be,
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  Speaker 1: which is that you lose your core. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the that's the fatal flaw for teams in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: is if you don't draft well and you don't have
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  Speaker 1: at least some kind of core of guys that you're
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  Speaker 1: paying on rookie salaries that are contributing and being players.
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  Speaker 1: I think when you get into that mode, you can't
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  Speaker 1: fix a whole team in free agency. It's just financially impossible.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, football has to be a bottom line of
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  Speaker 1: guys that you've drafted that are successful. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that is as we've talked about, the biggest reason why.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they've kind of talk about games. Games in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL normally come down to like five or six
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  Speaker 1: plays a game, you know, and a guy can blow
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  Speaker 1: up a play who isn't the quarterback or who isn't
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  Speaker 1: your star receiver by missing a block or doing something stupid,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bad penalty, you know, because there's twenty two
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  Speaker 1: guys out on the field at any one time, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what makes football so great, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and how many times are the Patriots were
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  Speaker 1: the difference in the Super Bowls that they won or
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  Speaker 1: lost just you know, a single big play in a
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  Speaker 1: big moment. You know, a play by Dante hie Tower,
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  Speaker 1: you know that was made of a fourth down stop
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  Speaker 1: against the Eagles that didn't happen. You know, those those moments.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you could probably gather up ten moments that
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  Speaker 1: were the difference in all the Patriots Super Bowl titles,
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  Speaker 1: just based on who made a play in the biggest moments. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So speaking of plays of the biggest moments, Malcolm Butler's back.
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  Speaker 1: So we had a little shout out on Patriots social
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  Speaker 1: I saw with he's looking good. Now. The question is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, health wise and mental wise, how is he? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a big question of And
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  Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't expect him to open up about
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  Speaker 1: what happened, perhaps, but I'm not expecting he will tell
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  Speaker 1: us what happened. But I'm curious what he's got. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: going back and looking at twenty twenty, I think he
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  Speaker 1: still had some football in the tank. But I think
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  Speaker 1: just given what we've talked about plenty with man press
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  Speaker 1: corners and abilities to get those guys, it's so hard.
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  Speaker 1: And he might be thirty two and and a year
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  Speaker 1: off of football, but you're not going to get a
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  Speaker 1: guy with that skill set. Can he still do it?
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  Speaker 1: I think I think he probably can just bite. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what is it? Play play at at at a solid
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  Speaker 1: I think he's still starting caliber cornerback in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: And I agree with Mike. I don't see any reason
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  Speaker 1: to you know, based on the last sample that we saw,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was really solid in Tennessee. I know
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  Speaker 1: every time someone leaves New England they fall apart. I
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  Speaker 1: thought he was really solid in Tennessee. Um. My only concern,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a major one, I'll admit, is what Fred said,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, where his head's at, Like, I you know,
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  Speaker 1: forgive me for being concerned when guys just up and
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  Speaker 1: decide to step away from the game. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether it was a personal issue off the field, like
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  Speaker 1: he very much wanted to continue playing but felt he couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea why he stepped away. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know the story. If that's out there, I missed it.
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  Speaker 1: I have not, But I worry about guys like that.
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  Speaker 1: And then what happens when he gets to trade in
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  Speaker 1: camp this year? And let's just say, for argument's sake,
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  Speaker 1: you know how I always love to paint these sort
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  Speaker 1: of like doomsday scenarios. Well, let's let's okay, so hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know what OTAs Hey, Malcolm looks great, hasn't lost
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  Speaker 1: a step, hasn't missed a beat, knows the system, very
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: comfortable here, knows how Belichick wants things done. He looks great.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Let's pencil him in at left corner. And then all
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: of a sudden you get to August fifteenth and Malcolm
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Butler decides, my heart's not in it. Yeah, it's possible.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: That's a concern because they don't have a lot, you know,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: they might be now relying on him, And everybody just
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: looks at the contract, which is more than affordable. You know,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: it's like nine million, two year, nine million total something
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: like that, with some incentives and whatnot, but a very
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: affordable contract for a starting caliber corner. Until he doesn't
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: play all of a sudden, you're you're you're without a
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: starting corner. Yeah, that's that's the and that's why, Like
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: whether or not he starts this year, I still think
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you need to draft a corner back. Yeah, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I would say that that's high on my list. Still,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: absolutely they need youth at that position because the youth
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: that they've gotten in recent drafts hasn't panned out. Well,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: it's just the numbers game. And you know, I know
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Jabil Peppers visited yesterday, but I mean I think he's
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: a player that fits. But why and he's more of
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: a safety too, Yeah, I wonder if they want him
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: as a returner. Like I just saw that the stuff
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that they would kick in the tires on him, and
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: he was here and I haven't heard anything since, Like
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: he hasn't gone anywhere else, So I think there's got
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to be interest there. I was saying deduced, like why
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: don't they like my guy Kyle Dugger as a return
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we got the We're gonna have
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: like the biggest stable of safeties in the league. Oh yeah,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of decent ones. I mean not
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: like just guys And it's almost like you didn't know. Well,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: it's almost like sometimes you wonder if they're just finding
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: guys that they like and and sometimes you you think
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: it doesn't appear like they have a plan that they're
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: building towards. They're just kind of he fits, he fits
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: whole crap. We've got seventeen strong safety. You know what
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: generally happens when whenever we talk like this is you know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: what are they gonna do with all those safeties? Two
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: of them will get hurt, right, and everybody will be
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: like Bills A, yeah, we're usually talking about running backs
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: in that conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we'll see. I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: don't know, but Josh Bledsoe you mentioned you know another guy,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and that's just what you know. And I'm all for
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: if there's a plan, if there's some kind of shift
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: on defense, that hey, maybe we can try to force
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the Bills to punt somehow, like this is the key,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: you know. So I do wonder if you know, if
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: they were to bring him in, how much it relates
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to the linebacker position, and you know, how how much
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: they're staying and you know, I wonder if there's a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: world where there's there's Jawan Bentley who's a big traditional
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: middle linebacker. And then there's safeties, and I mean, you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and Pepper's he did play, you know, linebacker in college.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: He's played all over the place. He's a person guy.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: So you get it on like on that side of it,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: like the player, you get it too. But as when
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you throw him into the depth chart and you throw
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: him into the defense and you say, I don't have
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of corners right now, though I mean we
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: got we'd have five free safe, five strong safeties. But
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: um so I just that's the leeway that I give
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: them though, is is are they are they shifting the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: defense little? But not that they've been picking up strong
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: safeties like it's going out of business for twelve years now.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: But you know, going back to um, you know, I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: think Chung was kind of the original draft pick that
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: they kind of put into that role. But um who's
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the guy. I'm Bucky Tank Williams, thank you, you get yeah, yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you know, but that was with the start of all right,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: these older safeties, even John Lynch maybe you know, who
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: can't maybe run like they used to, but they have
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: some toughness and they have some ability in the bed
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like those guys and Bill. Bill has always looked for
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: those guys, and you do wonder if maybe that's what
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: he's I think a guy like Peppers was someone that
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Bill probably said coming out of the draft, Oh, I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: have a lot of different things I could do with
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: that player, you know, And he's been put yeah, he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: been Okay, it's coming off an al though, right, yes,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: yeaheah and a high uncle Spring. I think they were
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: poor stufford at at the same time. Um, so I
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: don't know what. We'll see what happens with him, but
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I still think they're more moves. I'm sure
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it'll be a great deal for the Patriots. Um that's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: what I learned by by going on Twitter all time.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: So there's all that, and then there's free agents still
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: out there, um, some of who you know. Obviously we're
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: not in the market for quarterback. But there was a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: name that you're probably gonna laugh and it's like, oh, geez, really,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: would you take Sequon Barkley if the money was right? No, No,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, I'm not laughing at you, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I'm here now, are you saying generally or right here
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: now here? Now? Yeah? Nah? No, no, I mean, doesn't
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: he do everything that you want, you know, in terms
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of catching and running. Yeah, but I feel like he's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: redundant a little bit like, well, yeah, but now he's redundant.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: But now you you know, you keep James White as
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: a backup, you know, you don't have to play him
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: as you know, like you can do anything you want.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: You know, now he's got this injury history, but if
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: he's healthy, you can do literally anything you want on
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: first second down, anything you want. Why can't you do that?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that there is good Stevenson
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and Harris aren't as good as Barkley. I'm not suggesting
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: that they're the same play right, but I think both
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: they've shown that they can catch the ball, not as
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: well as him. I didn't say they were as good
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a player. They can catch the ball as well as him,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: they're not going to make the plays that he does.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: But same with McCaffrey. No interest there either, okay really none,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: zero because of the health. Yeah, but if you're getting
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: rid of those The thing that I like about Harris
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and Stevenson is chances are one of those guys is
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: going to be up every week. Yeah. I don't know that.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: If I assume you're getting rid of these guys to
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: get to make you get rid of one, maybe you
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: get rid of Harris. But the thing is, if Barkley
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: gets hurt you you're not done. You've got other guys
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: off the bench. I just think that the running back
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: is not a problem. Is this like Pepper? Like I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: don't have any problem with Peppers, But I just I wonder. Yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: don't get me, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: it's a problem. I'm saying it could be amazing. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think he's an amazing player.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think McCaffrey is an amazing player. They're amazing
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: fantasy players. They put up all kinds of fantasy value. Yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: well their teams don't win because I don't think you
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: can win doing that. But yeah, I mean I wouldn't.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do what Carol like, let's just say Eric
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Henry and his prime is different, Okay, but I would
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: if we had McCaffrey, I wouldn't be putting seventy percent
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: of my offense through his hands like they did. I
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: think that's a mistake. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't do that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I agree, And that's the point where I kind of
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: come out on which we've talked about before, of of
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: teams like the Titans and the Panthers who build their
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: identity kind of around their running back guy and then
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he gets hurt and then I wouldn't do. That's what
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to. But you know, I think in
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: like you know, Paul, but like, oh McCaffrey on like
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a cheap prove it deal, Like he's been injured for
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: like two years or something, so you don't really like
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to be the third down back then I like them,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: but to be like the every down rely on him,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: make him the guy, pay him with a guy. And
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I also think there's just so many other concerns right
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: now that like running backs one of the only positions
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't really have to think about
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: it too much right now, Like I just I like
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: having that kind of like, oh, okay, we got some
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: young guys. You don't think you don't think a guy
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: like McCaffrey or Barkley makes mac Jones better, well, depending
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: if they're on the field, sure, I mean essentially, but
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: why why hasn't Barkley made Daniel Jones better because he's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: hurt all the time. Okay, so why is he gonna
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: make Mac Jones better. I'm just obviously point everything I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: say was the caveat that if he's healthful. But they're
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: all these caveats. You had a caveat if he's healthy.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Duce has a caveat on a on a cheap prove
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: it deal. Right, why are you first of all you
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: can't make a guarantee that he's healthy and they donna
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: sign a cheap prove it deal Like that's I mean,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it. Yeah, if you if you want
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: one of those guys, they are the centerpiece of your offense.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: That's what those guys are. And I'd say philosophically, I
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: feel like I like having four running backs who can
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: all kind of do different stuff and you know one
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: of them or two of them are going to be
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: hurt at all times, and not leaning too heavy on one.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: And again, I go back to what other teams said
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: last year about the Patriots offense. It's easy to defend.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: That's got to change. Well, I don't think it adds
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Kuon Barkley makes you much more difficult to defend. Really
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the balls going to say Quon Barkley not But it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to. That's what I'm saying, Like, this is
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: what I don't understand. So now you're going to just
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: use him as a decoy. You know, you're, you're, you're,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you're stretching my words here. No. I just they're easy
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to defend for because they don't have playmakers on the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: on the perimeter. Okay, that's why they're easy to defend.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But they have a tight end. Is the basic you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a tight end and a physical slot receiver or the
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: two main targets in the passing game. In other words,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: nothing that's going to strike fear into it. But I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: think I think what Carolina did with McCaffrey was lazy.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You know. I think they just said give it to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey instead of distributing the ball and who well
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that's the thing they never developed any No, no no, no,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. I'm putting McCaffrey on the Patriots backfield. Who
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: are you distributing the ball to Kendrick all All your well,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you're easy to defend. No, no, unless you get a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: weapon on the outside for mac Jones to develop with. Yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you're easy to defend. Stacked the line of scrimmage, make
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: them run into a wall and make guys get open deep.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: That's that's the philosophy, and you need personnel to do that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, Panthers had j Robbie Anderson, Robbie Anderson, who
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: evidently Patriots fans have been lusting after for the last
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: month and a half and they couldn't do it well.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Bill had. Bill did say something along the lines of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: what we're hoping for in terms of, you know, the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: free agent why you know, we signed a lot of
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: free agents last year. They're still here. And I forget
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: his exactly that's stuck out to me. But have you
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: have young guys? You signed young guys that are under contract,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and which to me was a double down on that
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: philosophy in year two free he said, I what did
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: he say, we hope they get bad or something like
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that or I don't just know. I don't think the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: implication was that, But I think he said was that
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: we have young guys who are under contract. And I
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: think that's that was in relation to a question asking
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: they spent so much money last year, why the change
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: this year? Right? And he said, we have young guys
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: under contract, and I think that, to me is a
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: double down on I'm expecting these guys to get better
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: big leap, which was which was a good conversation Paul
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and I had yesterday, because I think this is something
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: that's um that's often been an interesting point to me generally,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: not even this season. It's just that I don't think
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to tell you that every single
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: one of the guys are going to be better next year.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: But I think that fans generally dismiss any kind of
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: improvement from players already on the roster. What they saw
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: last year is what they're going to see next year
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: or worse. And I think that that's a philosophy that
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: football football teams don't necessarily agree. Now, Paul will say,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you, and I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: agree some guys might get worse and maybe ultimately it'll
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it'll be a wash. But I do think that there's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: something there to give these guys more of a chance, right,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And I agree with Mike. I think there is a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: reason to think that Jhonu Smith and Nelson Agilore, just
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to pick two guys will be better. And I do
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: think that Mike is right. Most fans look at guys
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and they say that's what they are boom, But they
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: also do it the other way, Like they don't look
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: at Kendrick Boyne they say, well he'll he'll get better too.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe not, Maybe he goes the other way. If if
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you don't do anything different with your offense, then you've
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: got a tape worth of Kendrick Boyne in the Patriots system.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: So he's easier, easier to defend a year two. And
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: maybe Matthew Judon is more what he was in the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: second half of the year in the first half of
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the year this season. Right, Oh, I refuse to believe that. No,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm not, but what I think the way that
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Mike said that is absolutely one hundred percent correct. Fans
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and media alike, when we look at it, we always
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: sort of look at, oh, you got this and this
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: from from born in Judeon. You know, oh, we'll get
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that again, right, just like on the negative side, we
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: got this in this from Aglarean Smith, we'll get that again.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Neither one, like all four of those guys could be
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: wildly different than they were a last year. Yep, yep.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: So but just you know, it's it's heating up, I know.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hearing all the things from Bill and
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Robert Gray, it was really worse the joint practices where
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: it's just you realize we're gonna be sitting there watching
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: some real football stoom? Which is which is that? I mean,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I think that's the cool part like the rest. Like
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, we haven't heard from Bill in
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: in a long time since you know, since um, you know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the day after the season when he referred to the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: game the night before as last year. Um, we haven't
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: really heard from Bill at all. Yeah, So in that regard,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: it was interesting to hear him saying it, But nothing
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: he said excited me in any way. I gotta be
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: honest with you, like, I think he has the same
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: reservations that we all do. Just one more point on
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the second year thing too, is like I just I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: think Mac is such a big part of this, like
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a second year quarterback, you know, I think that that
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I'd love to get his real insight of just what's
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the operation, like you know, from when you first got
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: here in May last year with all these guys to
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: now I know it reports where it John who's sticking
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: around like you know, when you guys get together, now,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: how much more productive is it because they're not all,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you know, waiting for the rookie quarterback to figure it out.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Like he's been here, he knows, you know. It allows
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: everybody to to you know, just improved together. And I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: think that that, you know, overall, my hope is that
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: individually we might point to guys who were improved or
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: worse from what they were last year. But my hope
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: is that overall, the offense as constituted, regardless of what
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they add in the draft, which I expect should be
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: something that gives them some kind of boost on offense,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that that it's gonna be a little bit better than
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it was last year. I don't know if it's going
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to be all of a sudden, Hey, we're just lighting
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: people up left and right. It's hard to make that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: argument right now. But I just think based on what
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: everything we've heard about Mac, what Mac did when he
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: got here last year, I think he'll be better. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: think that I think Mac should you know, should be
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: better and not just as a player, and Bill intimated
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: as a leader as well, like he mentioned, Like you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I think we have a lot of leaders and I
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: think I think he mentioned you know, Mac, Yeah, I
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: just think it will become one of those young leaders
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to take the torch from the mccordy's and the James Whites.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And interesting they interesting that he said that too, about
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: when they kind of brought up those guys and he
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: was went right to, well, they're not going to do
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it forever. Like I just thought that was interesting. It
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't really he wasn't really pitching it as I mean,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I guess with Slater he was pitching as like an
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: all time player coming back, but you know, with with mccordy,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: it was more, you know, it's great to have these
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: guys while we can, but other guys got to step up.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, for everybody, that's like
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the theme of yeah, you gotta find the next level
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of guys. Who's the next mccordy, who's the next later,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Who's going to carry that torch? That's what you got
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to find in these next year or two. Yeah, all right.
• 30:52
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  Speaker 1: line web radio at Patriots dot Com. Is the email
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: address Little News News. It sounds like the the overtime
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: rules have have passed. Sorry, I lost it on which
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: one on Twitter? Yeah? Which one they go? Because there
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: was another one that Burt Brewer was talking about today
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that seemed a little different than the other one. So please,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: just I'm warming up to Bill's idea. Just do a
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: fifteen minute. I think Bill's had it right for years,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: as I've often do it. You know, I'm often locked
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: up with the greatest coach of all time. Yeah, so
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: it's the Eagles and Coats proposal has passed and it's permanent.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Both teams will be guaranteed a possession in overtime postseason only.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's also a good rule that it's just
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: for the postseason. I don't think they needed to do
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: anything different in the regular season. So do you know
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that the pariser? So if if a team scores a touchdown,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the next team gets a chance to score a touchdown,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and then they get a possession period, and then if
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: they both score a touchdown, then it's sudden death. I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: guess and all love that. Oh, then it's sudden death. Yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't love that. Both teams are guaranteed a possession,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: but both teams score, it becomes sudden next. You wouldn't
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: get to touch it again, right, I don't like. I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: actually think that opens the door for more inequity like
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: that in that you know, everybody says, oh, just stop him,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Well you didn't stop us. Yeah right, Mike Tomlin. As
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: much as I've gained respect for him, I love you
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: really have to come out and say, I'm not afraid
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: of sudden depth. You're not out there playing. I'm not
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: afraid of sudden depth. Yeah, okay, you missed a tough guy.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Put it away, your muscles away. I can tell by
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: those sunglasses he's not afraid of anyway. Yeah, I do,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: like I have to admit I do, and and I've
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: come full circle on Mike Tomlin. I do find him entertaining.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I enjoy listening to him. But that was a little
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: much like, Okay, you know he has a lot of
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: those little uh like for you know, you know, we're
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: looking for volunteers, not hostages. Things like that. Yeah, he
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: has a lot of those over the years that kind
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: of make me chuckle. It's like at some point, guy, hey,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you're a football coach, but you know that kind of thing,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Like the first time Pittsburgh's in the playoffs and they
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: lose because of a sudden death situation, he's gonna get Yeah,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think he will. No, I don't think he will.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I won't pull the Rocky, I'm all right, No, but
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: they'll make fun of you human, aren't you all right?
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Eight five five past five hundred A sicket hotline web
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: RADIOI pagris dot COM's email address, Justin in Rhode Island,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: writes in hypothetical question, if the Jags offered to trade
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence for mac Jones for an equal trade, would
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you do it? Yep, yeah, yeah I would. Yeah, I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: would too. Sorry, Yeah, I mean that said, I'm very,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: very pleased that mac Jones is our quarterback, but I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: recognize the talent of Trevor Lawrence. I'm sorry, come on, yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I mean as much as I want to tell you, like, well, nope, Tom,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: He's the next Tom Brady. Mac Jones next Tom Brady,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and I don't want anyone else other than him for
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: all eternity. Like I would really wonder what Bill thinks
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: of mac Jones, Like I would really like what he's
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: like just censored complete criticism, like compare contrast what he
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: really thinks, really thinks of Tom Brady and thought of
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Brady at a similar stage in his career, you know, yeah,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: And I would really like to compare and contrast that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and um, because I mean a lot has been made
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: over the years of Bill, you know, sort of through
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: through other outlets expressing the you know, the notion that
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: he feels like he could win with average quarterback. Yeah,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think that quote that was in
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the latest book was from Joe Judge. It was like
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: from a former maybe once, you know, like average quarterback
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that consistently won, a top fifteen quarterback, anybody in the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: top fifteen they could win with. And maybe once. I
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: don't think, oh yeah, there's outliers or Eddie, right, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: like Joe Flacco caught fire and was phenomenal for one postseason,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Brad Johnson and what's his name, those guys were caretakers.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Those guys just had special teams. Like Peyton Manning with
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the with the Broncos defense. You know, he wasn't Peyton
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Manning anymore. But Joe Flacco was as much the reason
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the Ravens won in twenty and twelve is anything else
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: that was going on. I mean, he just played out
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: of his mind in the playoffs, Yeah, that's why he
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: went up to him afterwards. Right. Uh, that was that
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: he went to a smaller school. That's why. Well I did,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and I told him the story that was was my
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: son's first ever football game was Delaware Northeastern Wow. And
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco was the quarterback throwing to Ben Patrick. Remember
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Ben Patrick tight end for the Cards. God, yeah, northeaston
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: beat lem. Uh. Well, he's like, yeah, all right, I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: gotta go. Then they dropped the program. Yet some reason,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: he was looking at his watch. It's like, yeah, is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: this He seems like a good guy. He was when
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: he passed us to the quarter potty in Philadelphia the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, And I told him, well, he even remember
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: when he when he won the MVP and they had
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: like the the the young he goes, I get a car.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: He's a good dude. It's just a goof. You know.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: They couldn't stop him in that twelve game though, Man,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: he just they were on fire that second half. Oh
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: he I think he threw like twelve touch sounds and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: no picks in that postseason something like that, right up
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the seam, over and over and over again. Tony writes
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: in I'm beginning to wonder whether the Patriots are now
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: back to the franchise of my youth. Nineteen seventies good
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years on the Chuck Fairbanks eighties,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: good for a year or two, nineties good for three
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to four years. Last twenty years Heaven on Earth spectacular.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Are we back to the times where we hope there
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: is a year or two in the next ten where
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: we can realistically win one even two playoff games in
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: dream of competing for conference championship. I'm sorry to say it,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: but alas yes, oh no, we shuck again. Well, that's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: most most teams. Most teams have that, you know, it's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's not that uncommon to be in that place.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: You know that. That's what it is. I think the outliers.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Yet twenty years of awesomeness that that doesn't happen. James Pettigrew,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the most interesting Patriots fan in the world, writes in
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: at least fifteen to twenty minutes on Will Smith. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: rarely ask for anything. Maybe late there, maybe we'll get
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: it there show. I mean it's I don't know why,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: but all the sports shows did talk about that yesterday,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and it's because like maybe Will Smith played a lot
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and was in some sports movies. Oh it's not. Why
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the only thing anybody's talking not talking about Ukraine. I mean,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you know, because that's not the only thing anybody's talking about.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: It might be the most important thing that's going on
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: in the world right now. But yeah, you don't hear
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about it upstairs? Do you?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: A little later? Heard a lot of Will Smith talk upstairs?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Five pats, five hundred. Let's get over to the phones,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Will Williams and philam, what's up, William? What's going on?
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: So that's how y'all doing good? Hey, hey, Mike, how
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: are you doing good? Just maybe three questions and that's it. Uh, Bred,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to what you said about Barkley,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Christian mccatt. The problem is, though, Man, they dogged them
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: so badly and you know everything ran through them. You know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: they didn't have it. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you know, and I understand it all. Thing. I mean,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I mean, I wouldn't be opposed
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to the Barkley situation. But it's just he's just entry
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: from at this point, you know what I mean. So, um,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be opposed to a little bit. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: don't know how that would work out, though, but I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: would I wouldn't give him, No, they wouldn't. I wouldn't
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: trade up nothing big for him, all right, Like, if
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you're just gonna tell me you're gonna drop se Quon
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Barkley into onto my team, right into my lap, I
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: don't have to give up anything for him or whatever. Absolutely,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you he's not better than Damien Harris.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Of course he is. It's not a football thing. I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: just I don't think it's very realistic. Yeah, and the
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Jabrill Peppers, I hope they's t I've been a fan
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of assistants at Michigan. He can do He's a jack
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of all trades. He can do anything just about. Put
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: him in any position, receiver, kick returner, you know, strong, safety,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: free safety, linebackers. So if you watch him, William, if
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: you watched him a lot as a pro, Yeah, why
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: is this gonna be his third team in six seasons?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Would be he del trade help? Is how he went? No,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is going to be his third
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: team in six years? Yeah? Because the two works well.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: If the Patriots sign him or wherever he goes. Wherever
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: he goes, it's going to be his third team in
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: six years. Yeah. Right. I think he's a pretty good
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: player too. I have no problem if the Patriots were
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: looking into signing him, even though I think they have
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: a glot of safeties. I'm all four bringing good players.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he's couldn't a lot to the rush.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: The Brandon Cooks thing, first round draft pick who you
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: know has that behind him, but teams don't want to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: pay the first round ready draft. You know, it's a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: great one. Brandon Cooks, right, been on a million teams,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: and I think he's a good that's a great Yeah, tough,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: great com He's ended two of the last three years
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: on I R two. So yeah, first round. It might
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: be a little too small to play that style that
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: we're talking about. Yeah, and my last question is okay,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: so y'all we're talking about the Nelson. Also, let me
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: let me be uh, let me get my keeping my
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: expectations down. You know, you all and Mike talking about
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Nelson Aguil and John Knew and they second year and whatnot.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: So I know I've been rubbing that off for a
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: little bit, but I mean it makes sense. So let's
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: just see what these boys can do in their second year.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I ain't expecting too much, like I said,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Nelson Nagel, Like I told you, Mike, I'm not expecting.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this thing. I don't know what.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: That's what I said to you. I don't know what
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you're expecting from him, John Knew. I'll give him a
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: pass because I you know, he kind of missed training
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: camp and stuff, so I kind of give him a pass.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: So but Nelson Nagel, if he doesn't evolved, then I mean,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: just just prepare yourself and I hopefully the Patriots will
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: put something in order, like this is why the draft
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: is here. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Other
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: than that, you know, I'm all for it, man, you
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm all for It's thanks well.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's something to be said with
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: with Aglaura being that, you know, role of downfield guy
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: and you know, a rookie quarterback like I can at
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: least have some kind of argument with myself saying, you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: there's a real Max should be able to get the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: ball downfield, a little more understanding protection better, you know, so,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and there were there were glimmers of here and there.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And I have seen a lot of stories from the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: analytics about his routes and how he wasn't really targeted
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: to the Yeah, I mean there are if you want
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: to look for it, you gids. What worries me most
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: about him, it's upstairs. Didn't he get in the doghouse
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: right away? Here? There was something weird during camp. I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: remember where we weren't sure if him and Bill had
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: words on the field or something, and then he and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: then he didn't play the rest of practice. I mean,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: that's right. And I hadn't even thought of that until
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: he just said it. There was some kind of quirkiness. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: but I would say, I mean just personal opinion that
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I got a good vibe from him. It
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: seemed like he was, you know, invested and had his
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: head on straight or whatever. That should you should put
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that on Twitter, like one of the rush The one
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: thing that sticks out with me, you know, and I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: always you know me, I get my my antenna go up.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: When you start to see a lot of the same
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: kinds of phraseology being used by different writers and whatnot,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: A lot of attention suddenly being played paid to him
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: being here for the off season program and he wasn't
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: here Smith, Jono Smith, I should say, yes, Jona Smith,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: he wasn't here last year and okay, so like to me,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like the last straw. Yeah, like, let's
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: see if we can squeeze something out of this guy.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I think you know what I always think for whenever
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: they're talking about something like that all the time, I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: go back to the Chad Jackson rule. Really smart, really smart,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Like we got him up on the board and gave
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: up like question in the back. I don't remember asking
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you if I thought if you thought Chad Jackson was
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: smart enough to pick up the city, why are you
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: telling me unsolicited all these times about how smart Chad
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Jackson is? My question here is why are we hearing
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: all these things about what Jono Smith's going to be
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: doing in the off season as the year two guy
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: and we have a lot of young guys under contract
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: and he's going to be here for the off season problem.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: So that's what we're saying now, was the reason why
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: he didn't pan out last year? He was not here?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Got it? I think he's uh, I think he's real,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't explain the end of the season. I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: can see the beginning of the season, but by the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: end of the season, come on, Yeah, I just don't
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: think he looks like a very fluid natural football player. Right.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: He's an athlete. He's a great athlete. We all get
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: excited because that one play in preseason where it's like
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: he could do things. Oh, I think he can't. Yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I think he is athletically gifted. But now after watching
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: him last year, I'm seeing why Tennessee only had him
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: catch forty five balls. Yeah. I think he's really interesting,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: just because I think what we saw from him in
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: camp and during the season in little bits were like
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: what he does well, and it seemed like they knew
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: what he did well, and they were, you know, trying
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to get him a little screen passes, little underneath, let
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: him run. It never looked comfortable, and you know, I
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: just I wonder how much of it is nuance of
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: you know, like like the quarterbacks always catch the ball
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: in space and it like it takes him a second
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: to Yeah, in that, I thought he always looked like
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: he was like his his steps would be choppy, like
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: he was thinking, Okay, I need to make sure I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: get ready to cut at seven yards, right. Yeah, that
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: was exactly like I think when you got the ball.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what the adjustment that that Bill
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and Josh made last year was, Let's stop making this
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: guy think. Let's just put the ball in his hands.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Let's hand it to him eight or ten times. Let's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: throw a couple of tight end screens to him. Let's
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: have him drag across the field on the plays that
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Mike is talking about. Nothing that he has to think
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: too much. Just catch the ball and run with it.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's and that's where I was exactly where
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I was heading Paul. It was it just seemed like
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: he couldn't quite get in sync with the offense. And
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you know, you see so many times with like Brady
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: where he'd be walking with a receiver and he'd you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: like slowly go and then right here at this is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: where you put your right foot and then you look
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: in the balls like everything was is down to the
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: like the millimeter in terms of where they want to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: put the ball, where they want the routes to go
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: when they break, and it just didn't seem like he
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: could get in sync with that. So I have some
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: hope that like maybe he gets a little bit more
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: in sync with that. But I also wonder you played
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: do his strings last year? Like I couldn't sit here
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and tell you they didn't do what he did in Tennessee.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: They did, Like I mean that they derided to get
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: him the ball in space and let him off the sidelines.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: That's what he did. You know, how do they evolved?
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Does you know does the Jacob Johnson thing the fullback?
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Do they get him out of the backfield more? Do
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: they use him that way? So? How do they change?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: And and and who's gonna change? Who's gonna put the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: thought into this of how do we elevate the office?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that speaks to what people are concerned
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: about with our mampetrician Joe Judge. Good football coaches absolutely,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: are they innovative offensive minds that can you know, adjust
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and throw curveballs at other teams? You have no, you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: have no evidence of that. So that that's that's a
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: big question. And you know just something I think generally
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: team fans want to be excited about their offense. It's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: all about offense now, and you know, the wide zone
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: and Sean McVay and all the things that they do,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, you don't want to go in thinking
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: what we're just gonna have a conventional kind offense. You
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: want to And I like that about Josh. You felt
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: like Josh thought outside the box and had a lot
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: of different stuff. So how are they gonna use guys different,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: what's gonna look different, and how they're trying to unpack
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: their offense. I think those are the things for OTAs.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: That's that'll be fascinating. Let's go to Rashod and Baltimore.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: What's up with a shod? Hey? What's up? What's up?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: What's up? Let me see. I guess I got, I got,
• 46:17
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• 46:21
  Speaker 1: one patriolated question. First um um for two Thoy nineteen,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: when the Patriots drafting to kill her, I wanted them
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to draft Lamar Jackson. I know, I mean, I know
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: they still at Brady, but I wanted him to draft
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: them all Jackson because you know, I'm wanting the future
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: and I just thought he was, you know, Lee was
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: like the next big thing. Now of what do y'all
• 46:44
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• 46:48
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• 46:52
  Speaker 1: rated that's still available. But I didn't. I wasn't, Like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I had the same kind
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: of thought. I thought Lamar Jackson was a dynamic athlete,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't sure he'd ever be able to throw
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: well enough to be as successful as he already has been.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: And there's still questions about how well he throws. Yeah,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: but he is so electric as a runner that I
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: think any team that didn't have a quarterback would say, sure,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I'll take that. Yep, okay, okay, okay. And then um
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: my second one, um the top four tight ends in
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the league. Um, because me and my friends having a debate,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: is Kelsey, Kittle, Andrews and Waller is that correct or not?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Without giving it any thought, I would say that sounds good? Yeah,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: like am I missing someone? I mean yeah, I don't
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: think anybody would argue with Ni Gronk has fallen off.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's you know, but yeah, that moment,
• 47:41
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• 47:44
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• 47:47
  Speaker 1: how many great ones they are up, but there are
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of good ones. And my last one waste
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: um as a Patriots fan, like we we don't really
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: have like no really like no real fan fairy risk.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, besides, you know Edelman, but he's old. But
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about like jersey because like I was thinking about, like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you know, the jerseys I've gotten, the last real jerseys
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I've got, and I think it was a Groundkowski jersey.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: But it's like, we don't really have any players you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: that will stay long enough to wear as you you know,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: you don't want to get their jersey because well, yeah,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: certainly not that you know, like Dave Andrews has been
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: here for a while. But who's buying a center's jersey? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I love it. Rashard, I think about that a lot.
• 48:29
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• 48:32
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• 48:34
  Speaker 1: where they're at. You know, if you're gonna buy a jersey,
• 48:36
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• 48:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be there for a while. And and who would
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: you say other than Mac right now? I mean maybe Stevenson,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: But I think there's just it speaks to the drafts
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and the last maybe maybe Kendrick going if he can,
• 48:48
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• 48:51
  Speaker 1: maybe if he can explain what you doing. But induce
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I had just a bonus question for us of all
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the Patriots Super Bowl runs and puts their fandom head on,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: which one was your favorite? Twenty fourteen? Twenty fourteen? For sure?
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: That was That was my same one too. I would say,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: just because I was a pure fan for the first three,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: you know, just not invested any more than just a
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: real fan. And then in OH six I really got
• 49:14
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• 49:18
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• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I was in it. And so every loss from OH
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: five through then I was just devastated. And so that one,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: that one meant the most, especially with how the game went.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Here we go again, another good I think I might
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: pick fourteen two. Yeah, I went to that. That was
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: one blow up, But I see I like that when
• 49:44
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• 49:46
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• 49:50
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• 49:53
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• 49:56
  Speaker 1: one obviously will be special because it was the first one.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: But I think fourteen have been picked, especially because you
• 50:02
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• 50:05
  Speaker 1: in sixteen. I probably really have to think about it
• 50:07
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• 50:10
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• 50:13
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• 50:18
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• 50:20
  Speaker 1: in the division round now, I think they blew out
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to the double by right, Yeah, fourteen, Yeah andrew up. Yeah,
• 50:29
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• 50:31
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  Speaker 1: But I think Fred's thing would be even better. Just
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: have one guy at every you know, just one guy
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: in charge, like because you know that all the angles
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: and yeah, quickly move things. And I think they call
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: it the Hawkeye technology, which was giving UM people access
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: to the replays quicker and not being reliant on the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: network and different angles and whatnot. Let's get back to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: the phones. Spi and Fresnel's been hanging on. Thanks to be.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: What's up. I think we got the new eighteen today here,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah, no addition by subtraction. Yeah, I like,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I actually like print everything with a see the more
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: that I thought about it, because it's just, you know,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: it goes with this like pomposity and like how he
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: kind of claims is Dilton's expertise and everything. It's also
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: called back to like the Prince of thing a little bit.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going with Prince everything. Yeah, yeah, screw you. I
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: wanted to follow up on the thing last week calling
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: about where Bill and the Schueler record, you know, kind
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: of not wanting to risk the three more losses a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: season thing by playing the young developing players instead kind
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: of just sticking with like your thumper better in middle class.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: You know, that's that's good enough to win, you enough
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: to lose in the wild card round. And I had
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: been thinking that maybe that was that kind of build
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: scheme in order to get the Schueler record. But maybe
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: that's not the real intent behind it. Maybe it's just
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: that Bill's doing what he's always done, and like maybe
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: he just hasn't or maybe doesn't know how to like
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: have a team building process in the post Brady era,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: you know, like you're talking before about like winning with
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: a top fifteen quarterback. Maybe that's just not in Bill's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: skill set. And that's take okay, thank speak. I'm trying
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: to think. I mean, I don't get it. I usually
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I'm big on Spee's interaction. I don't get this one. Well,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: building without a top flight quarterback is different than you know,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: like people said, I you know, listen to the radio
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: this morning. They were talking about how Brady was the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: ultimate band aid. You know, you could make mistakes and
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Brady would cover them up, which is true. I like
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: to call them human spackle, Yeah, which is true. It's
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: it's true. And so if you don't have a top
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: flight quarterback, you know, um, it's different. It's you have
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: to worry about things. Maybe you don't have to when
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: you have that guy, you know, but it's I'll go
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: back to what I said, and you can yell at me.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: It's football, and I think Bill knows football, and I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: think he knows football players. Yeah. I just think I'm
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: gonna say something really controversial right now. Like I'm against
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: violence against women, that's right, very anti domestic violence. I'm
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: really really against that. You might argue, you might yell
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: at me, but it's football and Bill knows football. You
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: might argue with me, Mike, I I do believe that.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: And I think I said on the show last week
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: that you know that they he has, you know, very
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that he believes about composition of
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: teams and balancing veterans and all that. I just wonder
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: how much of where he is now do you feel
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: like was established kind of in at New York and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Cleveland through those experiences, and you know, he came in
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: and then how did it evolve from that point over
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: the last twenty years when he was here, he had
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: full control. He was able to start to get the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: pieces in place that he needed. So it wasn't you know,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: every year I'm trying to rebuild the team. As you know,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: certainly Brady was a big part of that. But I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: just I wonder how his philosophy changed over time. You know,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: from where he started coming here from Cleveland, what he
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: took from that experience, you know, all the different things,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: the scouting language that they all speak, you know, I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: know those things probably are still the same, but just
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: in terms of building a team, the dynamic, you know,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: wanting the right mix of you know, you don't want
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: to be too young, you don't want to be too old.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: You need elements of both. And you have to adapt
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: because what's changing below you when I'm talking about the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: college game and the players coming out of college and
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: the high school kids going into college. You have to adapt.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: You you can't. You can't. You know, we're gonna be
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: a three or four team and that's what we are.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: You know, when you don't have enough people to do
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: to do a three four defense. Yeah, and then but
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: then I will also be guys and you know, I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily subscribe to this, but that you know, it's
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: he finds market inefficiencies and he knows, you know, when
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: this kind of player is undervalued, he stocks. I don't
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: really believe all that, but I do believe that that
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: he has a you know, a chemistry to it that
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: he believes in. And I would just be curious how
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: how it's changed, and you know, how much does it
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: change when of course you got like while we got Brady,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: So do we really you don't need to do that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: now we're back to Yeah, we really do need to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: make sure that this thing is is taken care of
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: because we don't have that you know, leeway. Yeah. I
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: think I think that you know, a lot of people
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: like you know, yearn for the past. I think football
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: is better than ever and because of the diversity and offense.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: You know, like four you had mostly everybody was a
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: pocket passer back when I was a kid. You know,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: now you have some teams that pocket passers, some teams
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: running quarterbacks. Teams have guys that can do both. And
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: you can't have just one defense. You have to be
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: able to adapt to the different offenses that are on
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: your schedule. Yeah, you know, you just there's no way
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: around it. The thing I found interesting, and I see
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: this too with maybe I connect with a little bit
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: more with hockey, but just how much better the sport
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: is now with the players, and I think you certainly
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: see it with the wide receiver position, with all the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: seven on seven that kids play, and you just get
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: you know, when I was growing up, I mean there
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: certainly were towns that a pop warner and kids that
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: got some experience. Some kids like me a little too chubby.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that happens. You're you're too big
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: to play football when you're a kid. That was me,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: but a lot of me and my friends we didn't
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: play till freshman year of high school. That's when hey,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: here you go, we're playing football. Now. Now you have
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: kids who, you know, like when I lived in California,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: my boss's son who was going to Arizona, you know,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: like he was all year long flag football camps and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's a quarterback. A lot goes into it,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: but like Brady, like Brady, what do you mean? I
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: had a throw in coach when he was a sophomore. Yeah, So,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just it's continuing to build on that.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: And I mean, and Max's been all over the country
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: with it. But I guess I connect with a little
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: bit more of hockey because I played, and you know,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I see those players and it's the same kind of
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: thing where it's you know, you've got all these like
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: stick handling coaches and all this different stuff that goes
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: into it now and just the skill level is so
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: much greater, and and I get it. Sometimes it feels
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: like you're not tapping those modern pieces that have really
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: kind of gotten better and developed in recent years. You're
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: still kind of looking at as you know, kids who
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: by the time they get here, they've only been a
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: receiver for eight years, four years of high school, four
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: years in college, you know, but you know, they get
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: into college, they've seen a lot already because they did
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: it in high school. Then by the time they get
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: and I think that's why you're seeing so many of
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: these wide receivers hit it right away. You're throwing so
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: much more in college now, I mean, is there's no
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: pay come right in and they that part of it.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I like that better because I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: like the fact that you know the passing game. You know,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: you can have quarterbacks and receivers come into the league
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to wait four or five years
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: before these guys really mature into their prime. I wonder
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: if Bill Walsh was alive now, if he'd amend his
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: philosophy that you know, every quarterback needs like three years
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: on the bench. I wonder if he'd changed his mindset
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: there because things are different now. Yeah. Well, I mean
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: it's and I see both sides of it too, because
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: I see, on one hand, you're throwing the ball a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: lot more. These these passing games are more complex, but
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you're also seeing the whole team look at the sideline
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: wait for the coach to tell him what to do
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: that stuff I don't like, and then they all go
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, And then you wonder, well, when
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: he gets into a situation where all of a sudden,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: the defense all shifts and you can't talk to the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: coach anymore because the communications cut off, you know, are
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: you able to process and manage that situation too? So
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: it's I think, I think for quarterbacks, as long as
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: they know why the coach on the sideline called what
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: he called and understands the reasoning behind it. I think,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: you know you can learn that way too. It's interesting
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: you say that word. That was I remember hearing Matt
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Hasselbeck randomly as him last week, but I remember him
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: saying he really, you know, talking to people at last week,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: But I remember him saying, I've really made a significant
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: stride in my career as a quarterback when I started
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: understanding why right we were doing things and not just
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: what's the play call? Get it off? Why are we
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: doing this? And then I was understanding more conceptually how
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: to how to play the position. Yes, you know, and
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: and and I think to connect it to Mac a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: little bit. You know, do you have some physical concerns
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: about him, Sure, but I think his processing ability and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: his ability to throw with anticipation does all set some
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: of some of his weaknesses. And I think that then
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: goes back to what's the ceiling for a quarterback like that,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: where you already come in you kind of understand it,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Is it that much better if you understand it faster
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: or you know, or you're able to pick out flaws
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: or things that you know you've seen before. As you
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: gain that experience. So I think that's the big question.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: What as as excited as I was last year to hey,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: we got rookie quarterback coming in, what's this going to
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: be like? Now? It's like, all right, we've seen Mac,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: we've seen what he was as a rookie. What's it
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: gonna look like now? How are they going to change things?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: And you know that that that'll be people? Oh well,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: h we have a guest caller and uh it's Eric
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: with a K, Eric calling in from the owners meeting.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: What's up, Eric? Yeah, Well, I uh, actually on the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: plane right now. But yeah, it was a quick meeting.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: They got their business done real quick. Okay, So and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: what do you have to report? Well, I'm sure you
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: guys have already mentioned it, but the uh, the somewhat
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: controversial over time rule did pass today. Yeah, just for
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: the playoffs though, right, Only for the playoffs, right, But
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: it seems like they just are postponing the inevitable. So
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: each team gets a chance at it and if you're
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: tired after that, it's studden death all over again. So
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: in case of like Casey and Buffalo, if Buffalo it
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: gotten the ball and going down and scored and Tide
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: the game and then he comes back in the field
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: goal games over, So you're just kind of understand, yeah,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, So you say it was controversial.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: People were talking about like how many people liked it
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: and how many people didn't If you took a quick
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: straw pole, well, that's that's that's a good question. I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: think most people were in favor of doing something with overtime.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: But uh, and the same seems to be a sentiment
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: to do it for the playoffs only, so not too
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: surprising that that part of it past. But just I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if there's a perfect solution
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: other than the ones that we've already talked about, you know,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: in the past. But you know, letting the letting it
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: play out until somebody scores more points than the other,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: not necessarily in a sudden deathform, play an extra quarter,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: right yeah yeah, right, yeah, um what else? What else? Yeah? Again?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: How how was the traveling and did you get any
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: good food down there? Oh? Yeah, we've got some good
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: food down here. Yes, I was. That's always a priority,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: as you well know, yea, But I mean there wasn't
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: much There wasn't much news coming up. The big buzz
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: was all about. You know, the AFC really was dominating
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: a conversation down here with all the all the transactions
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: that have that have gone on, it would have past
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: two weeks and you know, obviously we talked to the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: owner this morning. Yeah, and that was well, you know,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: he said in the bar Hind he wants to compete
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: this year. So you know, kind of what you've been
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: saying all along, Fred is kind of what he's thinking. Yeah,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: what about um NFL wise, scuttle butt about DeShawn Watson
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: and what you know what his name, you know, other
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: than the trade and you know, helping the AFT be
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: that much more competitive than that conference in that division,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: his name really hasn't come up because you know, I'm
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: almost like the commissioner frowned upon that sort of discussion
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: at the owners meeting. I was, I was surprised to
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: hear and I don't know how many it is, but
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: long time Cleveland fans saying I'm done. Yeah, I know
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I've seen some of that. Yeah, I always don't really
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: buy it, but I have seen it. Yeah, for how long?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Right exactly? I mean until they start winning games, right
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: then they'll be back. But not topic of conversation. Okay,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: so all right, well, um, other than that, Yeah, so
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: you're on a plane waiting to take off. As you
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: you're on the runway. The part in the background noise,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: that's what's going on. Masks required. Oh yeah, unfortunately, Yeah,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: mass required TSA. Did you were able to get through
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: t SA on that special thing that you have? I was,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: it took it took me. It took me less time
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: to get through it. And it's a call into the show. Yeah,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if like you had updated it since
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: you hadn't been traveling for two years. If that requires
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: for a certain amount of it's good for a certain
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: amount of time. You have to renew it every so often.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: But right, good for now? Okay, how how annoyed is
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: the person sitting next to you right now? Sorry, Paul,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: I couldn't hear you. That was deuce. I just wonder
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: not if if you're sitting next to anybody right now
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: and if they're annoyed with you? Yeah, okay, they're loving it.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Just go into my radio show real quick. Excuse me?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Is everybody on the flight like a lot of people
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: from the meeting? Um, I haven't seen anybody actually, Oh,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: you're the one there. Wow. Yeah, okay, I did see
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: somebody I recognized in the next get who was going
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: to Boston. Yeah, you're flying into Providence, right, that's right, Yeah,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: when no one, no one would be Why would you
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: be going back to Providence probably on an empty probably
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: on an empty for you snack you get the biscuit
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: or the pretzels or the nuts. I try to get full.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Oh you asked for because it hurting the chest for
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: the throat. Okay, all right, um, I hope they have
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: a vegetarian uh platter offering on them on the menu.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, well underscore, we'll see you. So
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: no news to report, kidding, Well, I mean he did
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: start to talk about Robert and you're like, we already
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: talked about it. I think that's probably what he was called.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: One of the things that I think he did was
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: he was supposed to go around all the other coaches.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah he did. He got uh you know the AFC
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Arms race kind of dl. I know he talked to well,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: he didn't talk to you. He got quotes from Sean McDermott,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid, um, someone else, Cincinnati, Yeah, Zach Taylor. Um.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he went around the league a little bit
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: um and basically around the league is the AFC, because
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: that's that's where the arms race is. Yeah, all right,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones. Dave's in Manitoba, Canada.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: What's up, Dave good an opinion, there'll be a question
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: for you guys, if you have the time, you want
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: it eagerly anticipating the trivia excellent. My opinion is, I'm
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: glad to hear you guys talking about football again. These
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: last few weeks of just contract talk is it's disturbing
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: in my books, Like when we got Randy Moss, I
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: can vividly remember everybody being excited about a star receiver
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: already cared about what he got paid or what it
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: was going to cost us because he wasn't making any money. Well,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: everybody cared the second gear when he signed that contract extension,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: people cared, well, they cared. But I mean, a guy
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: like Darren Waller and DeVante Adams are going to be
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: playing together and I haven't heard moved about it. All
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: they care about is that he got honored forty million.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: And yeah, just my opinion, I'm tired of hearing contract
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: outs and I want to talk about football. Okay, I'm
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: probably alone on that one. All right, what's your trivia question?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Let's get to it. In the twenty fourteen season, Week six,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: the Patriots beat Bill thirty seven, twenty two, and Brady
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: hit passes to four wide receivers, three tight ends, two
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: running backs and a full back. Can you guys name
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: the ten players? Oh? God? What is what is the question?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen thirty seven to say? Thirty seven twenty one,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: twenty two win over the Bills Week six, yep, twenty seven?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Who were the ten people that Brady hit four four
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, three tight ends, two running back and a
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: full back? No idea? Well so Hernandez and Gronk? Oh No,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Hernandez has gone right? Fourteen? Gronk has won? Um Edelman
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: Edelman la fell? Yeah? Uh? Oh MANOUI James White Manui
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: was one? Yeah? White was not one of them. White
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't Shane Vereen? Correct up? Veren? Okay, I don't know
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: what do we get? Yeah? Five, I don't know. I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: don't know. Brandy Moas now, Danny Amendola there yet? It
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't there yet? Why don't you just tell us? All right?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: It was a few odd names. I thought it would
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: be interesting, Uh, James Devlin him right, Aaron Dobson him
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: that list. It's a good question. It's actually a good
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: trivia question because of you know, the Brian Tims and
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: you know those kinds of guys. Stephen Ridley. I didn't
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: even think of him fourteen, Yeah, it had some odd
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: names on him. I thought it'd be interesting. Okay, well
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: you were wrong. You're a bad guy. All right, thank you,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: thanks for the trivia. Always welcome here. I mean it's
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: just like, we have some news. Can you recite the
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen rocks? We have something, We have some new
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: students news. The Patriots have in fact signed Jabrill Peppers
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: to win you. Oh okay, so there, there it is, there,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: it is there, it is. So I still have my question,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: why don't they like Kyle Dugger as much as I do? Right?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: The stock up on safety well punt returner, right, Like
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: I think that Kyle Dugger looks to me the prototype
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: explosive dangerous punt return Well, he wasn't. Leonora Rhyan, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: And I see him look very fluid doing it in
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: the practice field. I'm necessarily more talking about how he
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: looks here doing it, but they never really give him
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: chances in games. Well, I mean, Leonora Ryan, you know
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: you do it in a department store for plus side dresses.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: You know. It's not the same as the NFL. The
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: way I would have said, I just said I've been
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: talking about here, but I didn't want to step on
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: the line. People are like, what is he talking about?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: One year deal? Little a little curious, you know, I
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: just guy, I don't know, coming off an injury, it's
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: almost like the rebuild one year. I don't know, a
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: one year deal. It's just say it's perfect for you,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: you know, one year proven deal, and we just get
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: rid of it. I know, but that's not a rebuilding
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: move because they are rebuilding now. They know they're not
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: doing anything now. I don't know. That's my point, So
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: why bother them? That's not really like because I could
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: see two year like all right, he would tell you
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: the answer to that. It's some insurance for mccordy if
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: you didn't you know, yeah, back next year you're probably
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: not gonna get And he's coming off an ACL and
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: an ankle, so right, I don't I don't know when
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be actually ready, So I don't. It just
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: seems like you're you're not gonna get a lot of
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: bang for your bucket. I don't want to say buck
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: because I don't really care about the money of it all.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. It just seems a little bit curious.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: It's given him a chance to come in and you know,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: rebuild his brand or for lack of a better word.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. One year deal, how much is
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: he gonna play. I don't know, a little curious. Yeah.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's a great move for the Patriots. Okay,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I just want to Okay, Patriots. I want to join
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. You haven't seen the contract yet. How can
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: you say that it's great. It's a great deal. It's
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: one year, you can always get out. Good move for
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. Solid don't percent get it, But that's really
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: good move. Like I said earlier in the show, I'm
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: not going to change my opinion now after they actually
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: signed the guy. Anytime you can add good players to
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: your roster, I'm sort of for it. Yeah. So I
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: think I think Jabrill Peppers. I don't think he's a
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: great player, but I think he's a good one. See
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: where he fits. I'll always take a swing on a
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: former first round pick's healthy. If he's healthy and he's good,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: and then he leaves, I just you know, it goes
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: back to it goes back to the call from William
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  Speaker 1: of of. I think I think fans probably want more
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: guys to kind of latch onto and have our guys
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: and ore that were, you know, our stars. And I
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: think it's a little hard right now. I mean, I
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: think Judean built a little bit of that up, but
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: I think they need more. I wonder if it was
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: a one year deal, because that's what Peppers wanted. Maybe
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: he didn't get much interest. You know, here we are,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: you know, two and a half weeks in, maybe there
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: weren't wasn't much interest, and he said, well I'll take
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: I'll take a one year deal, chance to get back
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: on the market. It's also interesting they want to one
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: year deal. Not I can't. I can't make this stuff up.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I just can't make it up. Mark Daniels, this is
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: a really good signing for the Patriots. Peppers played more
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: in the slot last season, Like just what, just one
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: time I want someone to say, I'm not sure I
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: get this one. You don't have to tell me it's
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: a terrible move because it's not a terrible move. It's
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: not a terrible move, but just once can somebody that
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: covers this team say, I'm not sure I get this one.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: This isn't really sure he gets it? Yeah, well, on
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: a one year deal because and also too, I think
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of the two year deals you're seeing that
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: they're able to kind of spread out that CAP's money
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit. So it's you know, you're not eating
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: and so whatever this contract is, it's all, it's all
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: coming out of this year. It's just interesting. So Patriots
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: signing Jabrill Peppers. So tell me the Patriots aren't doing
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: anything of free agency. Let's go to where they are. Todd,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: North Carolina, what's up, Todd? Well, first of all, thank
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: you guys for being in the doldrums of the football year.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: I know that this is exciting to see. If you
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: think this is bad, way, don't you see it like
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: May June. Anyway, My question is I've been watching some
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: games and I noticed that a lot of little slot
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: guys go right across loss the field. And I remember
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: in the olden days, back when you know there's two thousands,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: those guys would get lit up, what is the rule exactly?
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: When where can you hit a receiver if he if
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: he comes off the line, can you get him just
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: at the line or what if he doesn't have the ball?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: You can't hit him past five yards? You know so?
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: And then if you're on the field, and but that
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: hasn't changed, there's no rule change on that. No, so
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: you can't hit him past five yards. And then obviously
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: you can't hit him above the shoulders, right head any time,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: head or neck area anytime. Um, you know so you can,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: like I've seen guys you can't, and you can't leave
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: with your helmet, and virtually anytime you get hit hard,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: a flag's gonna come. No, no, no, Because I've been
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: watching the Thank you mich I've seen a lot of
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: guys get lit up over the middle, clean head and
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: clean hits, and almost every time a flag come. I
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: don't think so almost every time, not every time. There's
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: always exceptions. I might. I'm just sick of being like,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: that was a great hit and that's a penalty. Oh,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: especially if the ball is incomplete. The only chance you
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: have of not being a flag if the guy holds on.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: It's like somehow the referee says, well, it couldn't have
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: been that bad because he caught it. Yeah. Well, if
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: it's incomplete, the balls by him and he gets hit,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: that's the defenseless, uh you know player. Yeah right, that's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: just that's the part that's changed. What's talking quite a
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: few hits that would have been totally legal, and it's
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: just you just got him too good. You got him
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: too good, him too hard. Yeah. Yeah. And my next
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: one is you guys actually touched on this about you know,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Croft maybe having a little bit more influence than what's
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: going on in the matters because of the way things
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: are progressing, with the the lack of well winning, I guess,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: or or the scene of progress. You think he's actually
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: dipping his fingers in and kind of pushing Bill a
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: little bit with his comments, or do you just think
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: that this is just a normal look. I want to win.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: We're a winning team and that's what I'm about. I
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: think I think his comments are pushing Bill, and I
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: think he's not just doing it publicly. I think he's
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: doing it privately. And but I don't think he's meddling,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I think, yeah, I don't think he's meddling,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: But I think he's expressing the concern that we all have,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: and he wants I think he wants people to know
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: that he shares that concern. Like he's not just like
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: happy with not winning playoff games. That doesn't make him happy.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: He wants he wants the fan base to know that
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: their owner gives a crap there. You know, maybe that's
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: what Bill's doing, trying to get the team winning instead
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: of this whole thing. Well he's trying to go after
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: the record. Maybe he's actually being responding to what you know,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: his boss is telling him to do. Get out there,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: get me some wins, get me in the playoffs, win
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: the playoff game. Yeah, so maybe some fans got to
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: step back a little bit and stop freaking out like me. Yeah. Now,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: And the question is, like we talked about it last year, patience,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: you know, do you do that? Do you you know?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Do you do that? You know in spite of building
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: for the long term, where's that balance? And you wonder, like,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: you know, but the beauty of it all is I
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: don't think Bill gives up. He doesn't feel that pressure
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: like no, but like he's not gonna oh you know,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft has to win now. Point I'm going to
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: alter how I want to build this team. No, you know,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: he's gonna do what he thinks. You know it's cliche now,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: but in the best interest of the team. Do you
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: think that he felt pressure, not from Robert Kraft last year,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: but from Tom Brady's success. Uh, he's human. I can't
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: believe that he didn't human. I think he's human. He's competitive,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: I do, but I also don't buy into the ninety
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: eight five that like he had to answer Tom Brady.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's what that's I think that was his goal.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: But well he didn't he didn't want to see. But
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: I think that was what that was what he said
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: out that. I think that's why he's he's signed Cam
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Newton because I think he felt like, I'm gonna bring
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: him back and I'm gonna get all these guys and
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna and I'm gonna bring him all in for
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton. And then it was like, I didn't really
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: work out that way. Mac is better. I'm probably not
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: going able to win the Super Bowl, but this is
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: what I have to do because back to Fred's thing,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: it's it's better for the team. Yeah, but I think
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: that was his goal. Was to take a run. Sure,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: you don't sign Cam Newton for long term. You know
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: that was a win now signing, but because of Brady,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: like when you sent Gronk and now you sent Jack Mason.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe not, but but I still think that, Like he's
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: a human being and wins the super Bowl. It's like,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: you can't say that it didn't look worse for Bill
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: when Brady leaves and immediately wins the super Bowl. It did.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: But what is an answer for Bill to answer Brady?
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: He has to win the Sea failed, That's what and
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's what last year was all about. So
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: he's trying to win the super Bowl? Yes, every because
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: of Brady? Well, every, Yes, I think that added incentive.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm with Fred, I'm with you, Fred. Yeah, I agree
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: with you. You know, I think he's a human being
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: and but but the question is how much does that
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: altar what he knows is tried and true, right, And
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think it does. Yeah, you know, so what
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: did he do different? Then? You know, what did he
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: really Like? I don't know, I just spent like all
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: these us Brady more than he wants to just win
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: the Super But I think there was an opportunity going
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: back to Cam Newton. I think it was an opportunity.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: He took a flyer, like maybe maybe it comes full circle.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe guy can find some of the magic that he
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: had and we can go on a little run here.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: And it didn't work out. That was not work by
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: the way, that was another year two. Yeah, year two
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: be better. Year two. Year two? Well, no, who Cam,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Cam Newton. That was the thought that whole
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: don't say that. It wasn't everybody thought everybody not me, Fred,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: our show is very balanced and impartially. I was shocked
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: when they resigned it. So was I. But our show,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: it's like, what are we doing. I'm not trying to
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: like tell everybody, you know, we should be winning awards
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: or anything, but our show if nothing else is balanced
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: and impartial. Yeah, okay, yeah, everybody else. And you have
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: to admit this if you read it for Mike REESEO,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Mark Daniels or Jeff hat another year in the system,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: he's going to be much more comfortable in the off
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: season having learned the whole offer. It's going to be
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: better in year two. That was the narrative quote unquote
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: on Cam Newton. And then they signed him. Remember Yeah,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: this is what people talked about the entirety of the offseason.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Cam will be better. Remember our pal Betty Love, you know,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: killing us, you know every day when we weren't saying
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: that he was getting starting reps because he you know,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: he wasn't doing anything the same. It was the same,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: but that was the narrative. Head He looked at training camp,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: it will be better in year two because there'll be
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: more comfortable in the system. Immediately, he looked no better
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: than a rookie, and that meant and we all said,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: if everything's even, you know, right, Yeah, if you're even,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: you're leaving them right. And he was leaving you know,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: he's perfect. Mac looked just as good as he did.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: They had both had good days, they had bad days, right,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: And I said that, and I think the right test.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: I think I made that comment, like I continue to
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: see no difference between these two and that's a massive
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: indictment of Cam Newton that a rookie looks exactly the
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: same as he does. Yeah, now I was wrong. I
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: was wrong. I thought that I thought that Mac was
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: gonna have to, you know, clearly beat him out for
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: Bill to make the move, because you're not a watcher
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: and like observer of nag the way Eric, I thought
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: he'd go with that hid it. I know you did,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: but I thought as as long as they were even
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: that Mac, I mean, Bill would stick with the veteran,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but I was wrong, and
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. See, I don't know why I was wrong.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know that you were wrong, because I really
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: think that it could have unfolded dramatically differently if not
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: for COVID. You mean when when Cam went out, I
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: think that was it. Yeah, I think that was it. Ye,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: but that was last year. I mean that was the
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: first year. That was the summer when when he went
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: out and Mac against the Giants because he also had
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: COVID in the first season, right, but training camp was
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: completely disrupted by him. Yeah, that's true. And I think
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: that was that caused Bill to take a step back
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: and say, I can't do this. Yeah, it's not good
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: enough to do this. I can't rely on him. I
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: can't rely on him. I think that, like to you,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: So I wasn't wrong, yeah, and I'm not listening. You
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: weren't right. You weren't right either, But I don't necessarily
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: think you were wrong. Yeah, you know, like, uh, did
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: you happen to catch the SPFW that's ripping me? Um.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: How many wins did you predict the team to have
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: last year? I've said ten and seven? Right? And did
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: did people laugh at you for that? No? Okay, thank you.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate the honesty of that answer. I never
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: laughed at you. Nobody laughed. Because I thought they were
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: going to be a playoff. I didn't think they would
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: win ten games six wins from Erica. Yeah, but I
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: thought nine like he thought ten. Like, I don't know
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: they're getting because you know my snarkiness, Like, you know,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: people don't like it. Because when I was telling you
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: that the seven game winning streak was a little right suspect. Yeah,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: and I ended up being right yea. So now people
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: were saying that I'm taking credit for being right when
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: I was all wrong last year. I wasn't all wrong
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: last year. I thought they would be on they would
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: be in the playoff hunt and have a chance for
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: a playoff, and that's ultimately what they did. Yep, they
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: got into the playoffs. I thought they'd be putting up
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: a billboard about the bills. So I mean I was wrong, right,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: but I just wanted to I just wanted to address
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: that one because I am wrong about a lot of things,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: and I really don't have a whole big problem admitting it.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things that I was like, Yeah,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't see Richard Seymour being a Hall of Fame
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: player when they drafted him, like to go all the
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: way back in the way back machine. Yeah, there's a
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: lot of things that people are wrong about. There's nothing
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: wrong with I still thought Robert Gallery was gonna be good.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with saying that you were wrong. I
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: thought we didn't need Dante high Tier because we have
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: branded spikes. There's a million of those. Yeah, ROSSI is
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: one of my mock brass. Let's go to Jeff in California. Hey, Jeff, Yeah,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: is what's going on? Hey, Paul, you must have been
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: reading my mind there when I was on hold, because
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons I was calling in was to
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: give you props for calling out all the fraud last week.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: They one hundred percent are mad at you because you
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: were right. Oh yeah, it's clear as day. People are
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: just so sensitive about that. To anybody that wants to
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: just kind of evaluate things, realistically, it's like you looked
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: at that wind Streak. I was the same way. I'm like,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: they're not as good as this wind streak, and people
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: just got so that was a good one, I really.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: I mean the very first win of that wind Streak
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: was the only one. I was really impressed with the Chargers. Yeah,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: that was a really good win with no asterisk. Like
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: the Chargers had most of their players, you had most
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: of yours. You went on the road, you were trailing
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and you found a way to
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: win the game. I thought the Falcons was a good win.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Thursday night on the road. You shut out another team,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: but it's terrible, terrible team, you know, but you still
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: it's still a tough spot. And they shut him out,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: they shut him out healthy. Then yeah, maybe okay, then
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: maybe I would have felt different. They had any players
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: of any significance playing other than Mat I mean even
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Cordarrol Patterson didn't play that night. That's true. No, I
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: like the Browns win. Yeah, I don't like him anymore.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: He's not my guy no more. Bred Just remember you know,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: uh did uh Isaiah win uh Pro Bowl? Guard? At minimum?
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: And it's still it's still on the table still on
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: the table when you when you goes to right guard,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: Win goes to to left guard, and then they draft
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: a left tup done. What what was my everybody out
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: of position? What was my bad? Bull? You had to win?
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Prediction of that? I thought you last year, maybe it
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: was even the year before you thought Win was gonna
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: is going to come on. His floor is a pro bowl,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: I think maybe even all pro guard. Yeah, that's just floor.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Jeff is right, that's what Fred. But if they never
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: play him at guard, I can't be wrong. That's the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: beauty of us wrong, that's the beauty of us. Right,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: that's that's the beauty. Just when you thought you had
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: the answers, I changed the questions. That's right. That's the
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: beauty of the thread model of arguing of just move
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: the goal posts. All right, that's alright, alright, alright, alright,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: that's going too far. I like you before, but not anymore.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Jeff about it. It's funny because he brings that up
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: and like and and all accurate of what you're saying.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: And I just I don't feel like they were as
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: good as they were in that wind streak. And I
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: don't feel like they were as bad as they were
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: at the end, and the truth is, you know, somewhere
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: in the middle of of what they actually were, I
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: would agree. I would agree with that, as bad as
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: it looked at the end where you can't even force
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: a punt like But here's my question. But I agree
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: with you. I don't think they were as bad as
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: they played in the last five weeks of the season.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: But what do you think is close? Well it here's
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: the thing. They lost four the last five games, right
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: or five out of the last six or something like that.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: The game that they won, they pasted the Jaguars because
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars absolutely stink. Oh and by the way, were
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: absolutely ravaged Mike ovid right, you know, so even bad
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: players weren't playing, you know, so they did like they
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: would you know, I forget the score, but they just
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: a yeah, it was it was fifty fourth. It was ridiculous.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: But those teams that they lost to the Bill you know,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Bills twice, the Colts, and the Dolphins, all teams in
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: the hunt for playoff spot, and the Patriots got man handled. Right. Well,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. You can't and that's why I agree
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: with Mike. I don't think they're as bad as that.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Like they really weren't overly competitive in those full losses, right,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: Like the score at times got reasonably close, but they
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: were to use your word, many games. And that Colts
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: game that was the end. That was it. I mean
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: you went in there and like, you know, this team
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: that's putting up banners for like no reason, just absolutely
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: they you know, they really got to appreciate how you
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: can get a shot in at the team that manhandled
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: and and I'm sure not only that the mistakes of
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: early in the season that you thought you had put
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: behind you came back. They started doing those again. You know,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: that's hard to square. Is just that a team that
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: hammers the bad team hammers them like embarrassing, right, but
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: then gets embarrassed by the good teams. And you know,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: and and that's why I guess I think it speaks
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: more to the chemistry. How can you not let the
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: same team not punt right in two games? How can that?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: I've never seen that happen. And though I don't think
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: it's I think it is, especially a division opponent where
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: there's no surprise. Well, you know that two years, two
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: times every year Playoff one to me was particularly embarrassing
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: because it was a touchdown, like what's going on there? What? Like,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: what is going on there? And conceivably, if the field
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: was like three thousand yards long, they could have run
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: the whole clock out because they never would have stopped him.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: You know, if Bill doesn't think that's who they are,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: then there's got to be a reason why that happened.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: I know. Well, I was laughing too about that that
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: famous thing of well, we'll find out next year when
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: we start playing again. And I guess we didn't take
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: it that way at the time, but he's bringing the
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: same team back, so that that was what he meant, right,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: And then they wouldn't touch that question, right because Reese
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: tried to get him on that, right. Yeah, he never
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't go there, you know. Yeah, But I just
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's and I know that there's a talent
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: debate about needing more talent, but to me, that speaks
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: more about the team, you know, the chemistry the well
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: and I'll touch on that for second, Mike, if you
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: if you don't like when that Colts game and they
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: you know, coming out of that Colts game, if you
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: remember that was the game coming off the buy and
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk about the oddities of
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: that particular buy because they had played I think on
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: the Monday night, right, the blizzard gather the tornado or
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: whatever in Buffalo was the Monday night and then they
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: played on Saturday. Do you remember what the players talking
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: about the abnormalities of that bond? That's not Patriots talk. Now,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: they might do it internally, right, Bill might have it
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: up on the screens for them to say, like, this
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: is why they're out to get you, it's us against
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: the world that and that's that's worked well for them
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: in the past, right, But they were openly talking about it, right,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: And I think that was the game after the game
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: that Max said we got to stop feeling sorry for
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: ourselves or something along those lines. Remember, right, what are
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: you feeling sorry about? Right? And No, but I think
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: Mac was right. I know, I don't say that to
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: another size Mac. I think Mac accurately portrayed based on
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: what happened. No, I'm Mac had a good handle on
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: what was going on and what could you possibly feeling
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: sorry for yourself about it? And I think he was accurate.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: I think he had an accurate portrayal of some of
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: the mentality that was in the locker room, and I
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: remember we talked about it in that week and then
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: the weeks going forward with Matthew Slater talking about, you know,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: we have we have a choice. We can pass. I
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: could up go home and quit, or we can fight.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm gonna do. I don't know what.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: And I remember Eric and I was saying, this really
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: concerns me, and you telling me why. Wow. Now again,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't bring that up to talk about it.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: I don't bring it up to talk about an argument.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: I bring it up to say I think Mike is
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: right when he talks about there were some things in
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: the locker room that were a little bit different than
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: we normally see. And I wonder if some of these guys,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: you know, you brought in a whole bunch of significant
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: players that are new to hear to the way they
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: do things here, and they they have like they have
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: a status based on their contracts. Right like aggila Or
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: may not have done anything, but he's getting paid. It
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere. Well, you're gonna eat a lot of money.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: The thing about it, though, I'd just use aggle Or
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: as an example, not that I think he was part
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: of the problem. I have no idea. Those things that
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: we're pointing out here are things you hear from teams
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: that are having trouble at the end of the season. Yeah,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: you know, that's what you hear. And and to be fair,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: it's it's not just last season, it's the last three
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: seasons that they've really sputtered down, not done what you
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: traditionally think of the Patriots. And you know again it's
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I know that they need talent and speed
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: and all those things, but that's that's what lingers. The
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: bad taste that lingers is just something felt off about
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: this chemistry. This This wasn't a team that circled the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: wagons fought you. And it's just it's the disparity between
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: having that Jacksonville game right in the middle where it's
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: like we got nothing, we got nothing, we got oh
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: well hammer the jack no problem, we got that one.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: Oh we got nothing again like that, Like that's just
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: the Miami game to me was really eye opening, like
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: that they couldn't say, Okay, we got our swagger back
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: last week, let's go down to Miami and take care
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: of business. Right. I couldn't do it. Uh, Cody, and
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: Fresno writes in I absolutely love the statement from mister Kraft.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: To hear him talk about how much losing bothers him
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: and how he thinks long term success is built through
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: the draft gives me hope as a fan. In my mind,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: this is a direct call out to the draft staff,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: put them on notice and demanding better from everyone involved
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: with selecting future Patriots. He gives he gave his props
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: for the recent success, which is great because that sets
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: the expectation. We need difference makers, players with ability who
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: will stay and develop for the long term. Kraft knows it,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: the fans know it. Let's go get it. I'm fired up.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Let's go it really is I mean, I think as
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: a fan the biggest thing I would be afraid of
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: was the Jeremy Jacob's style of ownership of you know,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: not really caring about winning, just kind of wanting to
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: be competitive. You know, we'll pay when we have to,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: but we're not gonna shell out big bucks. Like as
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: a fan, that feels like a death sentence. And I think,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: you know what mister Kraft said today, hit hit the
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: right time. Asked to choose between those two options, I'll
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: take Craft every time. I gotta share something with Paul
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: right now. So we were talking about the Will Smith
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: memes that are going around with the snap. Well, I
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: just found my wife off the top rope the best
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: one yet, Missus Kittner. Oh nice giving it to Mark Brody.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: I like it, Thank you, thank you, Delane. She gets
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: she gets me, but I've never met out. It's a
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: big part of the show, especially on Sundays. Fred. Yeah,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: I saw I heard one of your shows yesterday, Paul
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: think saying that that Will Smith thing was, uh, you know,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: put on No Way again one of my shows. It
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: was real, that was on. I know they're all your shows,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: they're all your shows used to be my show back Channel,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: and there's no way that was fake. That was absolutely
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: for real. No. But I definitely would rather have my
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: owner be really concerned about winning rather than the bottom line. Yeah, um,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: and I agree. I think Robert Kraft first and foremost
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: is a fan and wants to win, and Jeremy Jake
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: Ebb's first and foremost as a businessman who wants to
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: make money, and I would rather have Craft. However, I
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: wouldn't really mind at all if I never heard from
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: my owner, like, I don't need to hear what his
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: thoughts are on the philosophy fees of winning. Like, I
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: think it's great that Robert spoke today, and you know
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: that that's it's it's nice to have an organization step
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: up and have their head coach and their owner at
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: the owner's meetings. They're taking accountability. Nothing wrong with that.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: But I if I'm if I'm a fan of the team,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't need but I don't need
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: my owner. But if you're a fan of the team
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: and things aren't going well, don't you want to hear
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: the owner from the head coach. That's all. That's all
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: I care about. You only want to hear from the
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: owner when and he fires the head coach. Yepkay, that
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: tells me that he wasn't happy with the performance, right
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: and you know to the to the email is uh
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: you know point that tells him that Robert is putting
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: them on notice. So you think if they have a
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: bad draft this year, they're out. Because there's no chance
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: that they're out. No, a mere first Bill decides to
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: leave a mere from Haifa writes in while I understand
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: the idea behind the OT rule, change. I'm not sure
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: past results suggest it's a really it's really warranted. In
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: the past decade, there were twelve playoffs which went into
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: overtime only seven of them. Of them were decided over
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: the first possession. Yeah, ten of them by the guy
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: the team that won the toss. Also, please tell Bighead
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: that his new co host sounds like a seven year
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: old negative child. Maybe it works for sports radio, but
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: it doesn't fit a podcast. Who is that? Who is it?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: I thought he did it with? Um Ryan's gone? Ryan left? Yeah,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: took a job at a one of those betting places
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: in the dream. Apparently everybody's gonna go there. Oh, I man,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: I had some great interactions with him last night. I'm surprised, Paul,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: you haven't had offers. Well, just so you know, I
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: might be looking into it. After that. Oh, they told
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Ryan don't work too much? Yeah, uh so, who's really
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: into work life balance and not overworking. I did a
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: few things on Sunday night a few weeks ago, and
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: my boss basically inferred to not do that again. The
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: Friday of March Madness, they said to start working once
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: the game started. I said, any job openings, that's funny. Um,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: who's the new co hostn't? I don't have to double
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: check if somebody knows it's not Mutt, is it? I
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: honestly don't know, Like I haven't heard it, and Andy
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: hasn't asked me. I don't know any since Ryan's last
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: podcast with Andy. That's the last time I was on
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: it with them. Yeah, man, um, let's see Sean and Vancouver. Hello, Fred,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Mike and Paul. Is Eric okay? Yes, he's flying back
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: from the owners meeting. He's fine. If Jacob Johnson is
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: right and the Patriots won't use a true fullback in
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, I'd love to see them use formations
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: that lead to less predictability. Have John block a couple
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: of times and then sneak out for pass. Have Harrison
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: White in the backfield so they can run or pass
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: based on what they see from their opponent. Maybe even
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Stevenson with Harrison two more three wide receiver sets keep
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: defenses on their toes. Yeah, it wasn't that the predominant
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: set last year? Three wide receivers. Yeah, and I'd say
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what they do with John too. But
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: you know, again, I think it's just this is still
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: in that same area of wanting to like elevate the
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: offense and have an offense that's you know, a modern
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: NFL offense that's got some cutting edge kind of stuff
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: to it, and you know, we'll see what it looks like. Yeah.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: The whole tricking, you know, tricking teams, keeping teams on
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: their toes offensively by being less predictive, be less predictable
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: offensively with your play calling is the equivalent of We've
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: got to get a guy in a you know, a cheap,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: team friendly deal. Yeah, it's all like, if you have players,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: I don't care what they cost, right, And if you
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: have players, I don't care if the other team knows
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm going to win because I have
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: players that are better than the guys covering them. Jacket
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: in Arbor, I suspect that the reason why the Patriots
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: don't like Dugger as a kick returner is that kick
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: returners is exposed to a heightened risk of injury. The
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: Patriots value Dugger too much as a safety to expose
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: them to increase risk of injury while returning kicks. I
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: can absolutely one thousand percent guarantee you that that is
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: not the case. Really, that's not why Kyle Dugger isn't
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: a returner. Bill has used guys in that capacity countless
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: times over the years, going back to Troy Brown, Wes Welker,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, Julian Edelman coming off an injury, Danny Amendola.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: That's not what If he thought Kyle Dugger was the
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: best option, he'd be doing it. I barely even see him.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: I like, I'm trying to remember a little bit. But
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: he returns a ton in practice I've never seen like.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: I don't even think we need a play right now.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Just throw him back there to see. I don't know
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: if I've ever seen him even do a punt in
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: a preseason game. I'm not sure I have. I don't
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: think I've seen him do kicks periodically, but not punts.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: And I want to see him as a punt returner.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: We've seen more of him as a punt returner than
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: to kill Harry, and we started to kill Harry do
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: it in a game. But but in all seriousness, Bill
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: does not save guys from special teams roles to prevent
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: them from being injured. He believes in using the best
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: players in those roles, and he always has. It's also
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: just possible that Kyle Dugger at the department store, that
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: he went to college, that he was just that much
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: better than all those guys and an NFL level. They're like,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: he's not. He doesn't have the quickness of the instincts
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: to do it at the NFL level. That's that's possible too. Yeah,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the instincts of a gun Rolschewsky, Kevin writes.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: Kevin writes in doesn't say where he's from, which Eric
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: does not like. Uh, he says, So, I know this
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: won't get on the radio or anything, but I wanted
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: to write you anyway. Patriots fans need to chill the
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: f out out. I understand you guys being passionately upset
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: about the Patriots free agent decisions, but these people are
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: actually emotionally hurt and angry because of the people they
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: haven't gotten. Just a game you're watching TV. People, Relax,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: It doesn't affect you at all, not even a little.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: It might affect you, guys a bit, because it's your
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: job to care. It's bad enough listening to Paul acting
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: like his world is burning. That's Paul, these random Thank
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: God you don't speak for the rest of the fans.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: It's all I can say. We would all be out
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: of a job. These ran them. People need to step
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: away from the ledge since it seems like they are
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: literally suicidal. Calm down. It's a damn game that they
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: don't even play. Just enjoy watching the game, which I
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: understand is more fun if we are better. But relax,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: Brady is gone and we aren't going to be as
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: good pretty obvious. I bought a win of its jersey,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: which I know wasn't the best choice to begin with,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: but I'm not crying myself to sleep because he got traded. Anyway.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: You guys are great. Just had to vent after listening
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: to Thursday's show Jess again. Thank god that that's a
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: vast minority opinion. Otherwise, what will we be doing? Yeah? Well,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't get too worked about free agency.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: I get people do, but like I get worked up
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: about when we start talking about last season and like
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: how it ended and that, like that whole conversation we
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: had like the last That's what gets me, like, like
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: what we get some of those calls on free agency?
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: Those are the things that that are frustrating. But but
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: isn't that what it's all? About That's what it's all about,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: and like being a sports fan, it's all about passion
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: and emotion. Hell let it out for this than other
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: things in the world. Jake your friendly pool guy from Bendigo, Australia.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: I know it's been a lot of free agency and
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: draft talk of late, but after listening to the Edelman Cast,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: it got me thinking, Yes, we may have two former
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: head coaches about to attempt to run some offense, but
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on bringing back old players to
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: be in those top positions. I know they'll bring a
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: fresh perspective fingers crossed, but an ex player would know
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: our systems inside and out. That could help maybe extend
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: or broaden what is already in place. You're all a
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: bunch of bonds of blokes, keep up the ripper work.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: I think that was a compliment, right, I think, so
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with that. Yeah, bonds of blokes.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they got to want to do it.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: I just I think it's people want to just put
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: players into coaching roles and it's such a grind. It's
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: probably even more of a grind for the coaches than
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: it is for the players. And you know, I would
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: imagine someone like Brian Hoy or everybody wants to make
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: the QB coaching. It's probably more appealing to him to
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: be a player and not have to put in all
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: the extra hours that you know coaches do. But you
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: know that, said West Welker, he's been you know, coaching.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would you never turn those guys down.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: But they got to want to do it. They got
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: to be invested to pay that kind of time in
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: to be a coach. It's just like that's you know,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: a nightmare. Man. You see some of these older scouting
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: assistants that come in and like, oh, they made a
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: new hire on the staff, and you're like, oh, who's
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: this guy? And it's like a guy who looks like
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: he's in his mid forties. I'm like, oh my god,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: you know he's you know resetting. I mean even Bill O'Brien, right,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: he came here kind of late as like an assistant.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: He had coached. Um it was an offensive cord and
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: it was probably here in eighteen hours a day, you know,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: doing those things. Like I'm not a big advocate of
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to get some of the ex
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: players and making coaches. I think some of them that
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: want to do it, and they do it, that's fine.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: Like Troy Brown is on the staff here, Wes Welker
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: is a wide receivers coach. You know, Gerard Mayo is
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: an ex player. But I don't need all the guys
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: that are coaching to be guys that I watch play. Yeah,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need that. I think it's appealing
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: to have fresh set of eyes and and you know, different,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: different scheme, attic input rather than just everybody who ran
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel's offense. Sometime in the last ten years a
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: couple of emailers. Speed is among them and Josh and turners.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: Fall says that Chris Shime is Andy's new co host. Oh,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: that's one of the producers. Shim Time's going around. I
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: know Chris, I know who he is. I don't really
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: know him. I really don't know how Matt Morrell doesn't
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: have his own show yet because that's radio producers or
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: do the door cast. Everyone who produced wants the host.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Everyone who wants the host wants to I don't know
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: host dance. When you get to be a host, you
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: don't ever leaves job in the world. Okay, I'm just kidding.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: One more email, Reno writes in I was wondering why
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: we haven't heard anything about Trey Flowers, not just for
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: us but in general. Also with what Kraft said this morning.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Do you think Belichick will be on the hot seat
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: if we don't win a playoff game? No, but I
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: think he could be in trouble if they have a
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: disastrous year. Yeah, like if they won like four games
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: and it just looked like a mass I could see
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: Robert saying, what are we doing? But no, if they
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: don't make it, they don't win a playoff game, I mean,
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: Fred doesn't, I mean, this isn't even a shot. And
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't say this once the whole show. You don't
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: think they're going to be in the hunt. So I
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: don't see how you could at this moment, right right
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: at this moment, I don't see how you could then
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: turn around and say he needs to be fired if
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: they don't win a playoff game and you don't even
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna be in the hunt. No, of course, not,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: of course, not, of course not. I don't know about you. This,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: This is a controversial. You might laugh at this, but
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: it's just football, and Bill knows football I think he
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: knows a little bit thick. He knows football. You might
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: laugh at that, Mike, and in places where you don't
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: talk about at parties. Why are you both pointing at
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: me because you seem to have checked out trying to
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: get you back in. It seem like you're trying to
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: pull me to your side, just like lost all is.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: And so I'm just clearing this the new eight team. Yeah,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: that's right here, this is the show. Yeah, sorry, Eric,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: you're up about the skies. He'll be all crying in
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: this pillar. I don't think it's tiny. More time to
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: do travel stuff. Word. Yeah, all right. That's gonna be
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back
• 1:58:03
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