Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Feminists Around the World: Dr. Nadine Caron
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sanny and Samantha and welcome to stuff
- 0:07Speaker 1: I've never told you reflection I heard.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Radio And we are still celebrating Native American heritage months.
- 0:22Speaker 2: For this month, it is November of twenty twenty four.
- 0:25Speaker 2: If anybody were to, you.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Know, try to timestamp us and figure out where we're
- 0:29Speaker 3: coming from from the past anyway, and for our activists
- 0:34Speaker 3: around the world, we are celebrating the works and accomplishments
- 0:37Speaker 3: so far of doctor Nadine Caron.
- 0:41Speaker 2: So doctor Caron was celebrated and has made history as well.
- 0:46Speaker 2: She was kind of the first of a lot of things,
- 0:49Speaker 2: it seems, and it's specific to being the first female
- 0:52Speaker 2: First Nations General surgeon in Canada. Yeah, still part of America.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Not only that she was the first Woeman and of
- 1:00Speaker 2: the first Nations to graduate from the University of British
- 1:03Speaker 2: Columbia's medical school. Here's that caveat of like, yes, we're
- 1:07Speaker 2: saying this now and this is absurd that this is
- 1:10Speaker 2: the first for that category in Canada. But there's so
- 1:14Speaker 2: many things when it comes to first about whether we're
- 1:19Speaker 2: looking at one specific area versus like the entire world
- 1:23Speaker 2: and all of these things. So we are celebrating her,
- 1:25Speaker 2: of course, but no, when it comes to first there's
- 1:29Speaker 2: a lot that could be missed. And also sometimes there's
- 1:31Speaker 2: a travesty that it's in our lifetime, like in our
- 1:34Speaker 2: present time, that that's the first right, but we're still
- 1:38Speaker 2: going to celebrate it, even with the aw of like huh.
- 1:41Speaker 1: But yes.
- 1:42Speaker 2: So as a part of the Sega monk Aishknadbeck First Nations,
- 1:46Speaker 2: she has made history in the medical field, and though
- 1:48Speaker 2: she's already making waves in the specific field, she's made
- 1:52Speaker 2: sure to use her education and work advocating for the
- 1:55Speaker 2: marginalized community. She has focused her work addressing issues and
- 1:59Speaker 2: inequity in the First Nations communities, and in twenty fourteen,
- 2:03Speaker 2: she actually helped found the UBCs or University of British
- 2:06Speaker 2: Columbia's Center for Excellence and Indigenous Health. Here's some information
- 2:10Speaker 2: from BCGSC dot CAA. The Center for Excellence and Indigenous
- 2:14Speaker 2: Health was founded quote in order to improve recruitment and
- 2:17Speaker 2: retention of Indigenous students into health professions, to develop curricula
- 2:21Speaker 2: addressing Indigenous health concerns, and to conduct further research into
- 2:25Speaker 2: Indigenous health in general. This initiative has resulted in a
- 2:29Speaker 2: cultural Safety and Humility curriculum for UBC students and a
- 2:33Speaker 2: graduate certificate in Indigenous Public Health that equips Indigenous community
- 2:37Speaker 2: members and scholars with necessary skills to address public health
- 2:41Speaker 2: issues in First Nations, Inuit, Matisse and other Indigenous communities.
- 2:46Speaker 2: So her work has been obviously very influenced by her
- 2:50Speaker 2: community and her family. So here's a bit about her
- 2:52Speaker 2: background from Springer dot com, where she was featured as
- 2:55Speaker 2: an inspirational woman in surgery. Doctor Kron was born and
- 2:59Speaker 2: rais in Kamloose, BC and one of four children board
- 3:03Speaker 2: to an a Jibwe mother, a school teacher, and an
- 3:05Speaker 2: Italian immigrant father, a mason. She completed a degree in
- 3:09Speaker 2: kinesiology at Simon Fraser University while playing varsity basketball. Doctor
- 3:14Speaker 2: Caron was the first female First Nation person to graduate
- 3:17Speaker 2: from UBC Medical School. This was followed by a general
- 3:21Speaker 2: surgical residency at EBC, which included a master's in Public
- 3:25Speaker 2: health from Harvard University, becoming the first female First Nations
- 3:29Speaker 2: General surgeon in Canada. And yes, she did indeed play
- 3:33Speaker 2: basketball during her college years. In fact, she was a
- 3:36Speaker 2: star player who won several awards, including the university's Shroom
- 3:41Speaker 2: Gold Medal which is like a big thing for athletes,
- 3:44Speaker 2: basketball stars. And she received many more accolades during her
- 3:47Speaker 2: school years and even after, including honorary Doctorate of Laws
- 3:51Speaker 2: from the University of Fraser Valley and several others. So
- 3:54Speaker 2: she just kind of keeps stacking on her titles. But
- 3:58Speaker 2: her time in school was not always especially in the
- 4:01Speaker 2: world of medicine. In a twenty sixteen interview she did
- 4:03Speaker 2: with CBC, she said, I think it's a challenging road
- 4:06Speaker 2: to go into medicine and to go into surgery. But
- 4:09Speaker 2: I think that we've worked hard, particularly at UBC. We
- 4:12Speaker 2: started a couple of years ago, the Center for Excellence
- 4:14Speaker 2: and Indigenous Health, and one of the things we're doing
- 4:17Speaker 2: is exactly that, sort of taking a look at what
- 4:19Speaker 2: was hard and how do we fix it for the
- 4:21Speaker 2: next generation of students and trainees coming through. And one
- 4:25Speaker 2: thing I know that we're doing is trying to make
- 4:27Speaker 2: it so that when you are having challenges, and you
- 4:29Speaker 2: are having difficulties and you do want someone who can
- 4:32Speaker 2: understand particularly that side of things being First Nations or
- 4:35Speaker 2: being Indigenous, or being a minority, or having other elements
- 4:38Speaker 2: in your life that you're trying to hold on to
- 4:41Speaker 2: to have someone to turn to, to have someone to
- 4:43Speaker 2: talk to, to have someone that validates your concerns and your fears,
- 4:46Speaker 2: I think is really really important. In my year, there
- 4:48Speaker 2: was no other Indigenous students in the class.
- 4:51Speaker 1: And she continues, when I saw particularly firsthand issues in
- 4:54Speaker 1: the healthcare system where it lets our First Nations people down,
- 4:57Speaker 1: our communities down, that's when it really triggered me. There
- 5:01Speaker 1: was no one around that got triggered in the same
- 5:04Speaker 1: way that it touched so personally and so passionately, and
- 5:08Speaker 1: I was often told, like Nadine, you're overreacting or why
- 5:12Speaker 1: does that always trigger you? Why do you always get
- 5:14Speaker 1: upset about that? And even as a faculty member and
- 5:17Speaker 1: in academia and out in the world there, I often
- 5:20Speaker 1: get told that'll never happen. Don't dream so big. It's
- 5:24Speaker 1: sort of a message that you'll get repeatedly throughout because
- 5:27Speaker 1: there's not too many people that see it through your lens.
- 5:32Speaker 1: And like I said, at UBC, which is the world
- 5:35Speaker 1: that I'm most affiliated with, they get it and they
- 5:38Speaker 1: understand it. And so I'm starting to see a difference now.
- 5:41Speaker 1: And then I do look back and realize what I
- 5:44Speaker 1: did not.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Have right.
- 5:55Speaker 2: And with that seeing her own culture being a part
- 5:58Speaker 2: of the conversation and when it comes to help. She
- 6:00Speaker 2: also talks about the importance of respecting culture and traditions
- 6:03Speaker 2: that many First Nations still practice. She told the CBC.
- 6:07Speaker 2: And then there's the traditional healing practice of our Indigenous
- 6:10Speaker 2: people in Canada. I fully support that. I think it's
- 6:13Speaker 2: important to ensure that when you're working with individual patients,
- 6:16Speaker 2: whether it's a disease or in my case, often new
- 6:18Speaker 2: diagnosis of cancer, that you're not you know, when I
- 6:21Speaker 2: go to the operating room and I do an operation
- 6:23Speaker 2: to take out say half the thyroid or a thyroid
- 6:26Speaker 2: because of thyroid cancer, I don't just take thyroid to
- 6:28Speaker 2: the operation. I take the entire person. I take their family,
- 6:32Speaker 2: their community, everyone who wants this to be a safe operation,
- 6:36Speaker 2: a successful operation. But most importantly, that individual has beliefs,
- 6:40Speaker 2: has values, and you have to ensure that all of
- 6:42Speaker 2: that is respected so that they can trust you, and
- 6:45Speaker 2: you can trust that they know what they're going to
- 6:47Speaker 2: the operation for and that is safe. And so I
- 6:49Speaker 2: completely agree that our First Nations people and our other
- 6:52Speaker 2: Aboriginal people in Canada really need to be respected. If
- 6:55Speaker 2: this is another area where they turn to for their
- 6:57Speaker 2: health and for their treatments, that we need to work
- 7:00Speaker 2: with them, in collaboration with them, just to make sure
- 7:02Speaker 2: what do we propose, how will it fit together, instead
- 7:05Speaker 2: of feeling like we have to choose. So I thought
- 7:07Speaker 2: it was really interesting because she talks a lot about
- 7:09Speaker 2: that and making sure that they are respecting the culture
- 7:11Speaker 2: and understanding the depth of those types of traditions and
- 7:15Speaker 2: how important it is in order to be successful for
- 7:18Speaker 2: these types of medical procedures. And yeah, her successful work
- 7:22Speaker 2: has only continued. In twenty sixteen, doctor Caron was awarded
- 7:26Speaker 2: one point two to five million dollars from the Genome
- 7:28Speaker 2: of British Columbia for the Northern Biobank initiative. And here's
- 7:32Speaker 2: some details from the same BCGSC dot CAA article. In
- 7:37Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, doctor Caron received one point two to five
- 7:40Speaker 2: million dollars to address a growing risk that rule in
- 7:42Speaker 2: remote communities in BC could be excluded from significant advances
- 7:46Speaker 2: made in genomic research and precision medicine. The NBI project
- 7:50Speaker 2: includes consultation with the general public, researchers, healthcare providers, staff
- 7:54Speaker 2: and administration, creation of a retrospective Northern BC breast Cancer
- 7:59Speaker 2: Biobank and consultations with fifty four First Nations, including development
- 8:03Speaker 2: of the Northern First Nations Biobank Advisory Committee. And that's
- 8:08Speaker 2: not the only time that she's been granted so much,
- 8:11Speaker 2: like millions of dollars for these types of research. She's
- 8:14Speaker 2: been granted a lot of money in working specifically in
- 8:17Speaker 2: the Indigenous communities when it comes to cancer treatment. So
- 8:20Speaker 2: it's really interesting to see. And in twenty twenty, doctor
- 8:23Speaker 2: Caron was quote named the founding First Nations Health Authority
- 8:26Speaker 2: Chair and Cancer and Wellness of EBC. This new position,
- 8:30Speaker 2: supported by three million dollars in funding, was created to
- 8:34Speaker 2: improve cancer outcomes and wellness among Indigenous people by examining
- 8:38Speaker 2: the stories and needs of Indigenous cancer patients and their families.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Her main areas of interest are Indigenous health and Canadian
- 8:44Speaker 2: health policies, and this is according to the BC Medical Journal.
- 8:47Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty two, doctor Caron was one of
- 8:50Speaker 2: fourteen people appointed the Order of British Columbia and in
- 8:54Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, doctor Caron is now being inducted to
- 8:57Speaker 2: the Canadian Medical.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.
- 9:00Speaker 2: She is being celebrated for our leadership and work in
- 9:03Speaker 2: Indigenous health and surgical practices.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Here's a bit more about her induction from an article
- 9:07Speaker 1: from the University of British Columbia Faculty of Medicine. Quote.
- 9:11Speaker 1: As a surgical on collegist working in Northern British Columbia,
- 9:15Speaker 1: doctor Carone has led groundbreaking projects focused on cancer, personalized medicine,
- 9:19Speaker 1: and healthcare services in rural and remote settings. This work
- 9:23Speaker 1: addresses stark disparities in health outcomes for Indigenous communities, a
- 9:28Speaker 1: driving goal of doctor Caron's contributions to research, medical education
- 9:32Speaker 1: and clinical care.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Right and she is quoted in the article saying, quote,
- 9:37Speaker 2: I am truly humbled. This is the recognition of all
- 9:40Speaker 2: those individuals who believed in and supported me with my
- 9:42Speaker 2: hopes and dreams which have really only started and that
- 9:45Speaker 2: I will one day pass on. This honor is the
- 9:48Speaker 2: symbol of what family, friends, colleagues and community can do
- 9:51Speaker 2: when we all wish for tomorrow that is better for
- 9:53Speaker 2: our children. Yeah, and obviously she's only racking up more
- 9:59Speaker 2: accolades she continues her hard work. You could actually find
- 10:03Speaker 2: youtubes of her talking about the disparities in healthcare for
- 10:07Speaker 2: Indigenous communities and what it looks like as she is
- 10:11Speaker 2: an indigenous doctor and what that looks like for her
- 10:14Speaker 2: and her experiences. So you should definitely look that up.
- 10:16Speaker 2: She does have a Wikipedia page. I love whant to
- 10:18Speaker 2: see that, but they have to update it because they
- 10:21Speaker 2: haven't added this induction to the Hall of Fame yet.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Just so you know, get on that, get on well.
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