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Tom Zawistowski - WeThePeopleConvention.org · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Upstation seven nine if you have KCD talk station, very
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  Speaker 1: happy Tuesday to you. What an enlightening conversation. So if
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  Speaker 1: you hear the guy Ryan A just listened to the
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  Speaker 1: interview with Thomas Massey right there, and you'll appreciate and
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  Speaker 1: understand why well, you're not being told the truth, You're
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  Speaker 1: being lied to. I guess we phrase it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's time of the week. We talked to
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  Speaker 1: we the People Convention dot org. Tom Zawastowski, I check
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  Speaker 1: you check out his web page, bookmarket and listen to
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  Speaker 1: his podcast every week. Tom. Welcome back to the show man.
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  Speaker 1: It's always great having you on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, Brian, what are you and Joe doing to
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  Speaker 2: me here? Follow in Brian Massey, you know Thomas Massey
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  Speaker 2: for this interview you just did. Man. I think Trump's
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  Speaker 2: will have the RS investigating the Weavy People Convention by
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  Speaker 2: this afternoon. If I'm not careful, Yeah, I'll be back
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  Speaker 2: to Obama day fifteen years ago. Holy cow, listen, my friend,
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  Speaker 2: my brother. First of all, a great interview and really
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  Speaker 2: great points. The problem isn't Thomas is now. The problem
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  Speaker 2: is the system We've got the problem is that money.
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  Speaker 2: You know, buys propaganda. You know, I will remind your listeners.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, the Supreme Court struck down the Ohio
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  Speaker 2: law that prohibited line political campaigns. It's free city. If
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  Speaker 2: they hadn't done that, I don't think that happened to
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  Speaker 2: the play before I came out, I would have been
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  Speaker 2: on the air well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't. This is the point he made,
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  Speaker 1: and they double down on it today. And I've been
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  Speaker 1: making the point on his behalf for the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: I've been listening to at gay Right as. Yes, he
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  Speaker 1: voted no, but it was part of a massive bill.
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  Speaker 1: If you give him the one line item like border
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  Speaker 1: wall security or abortional whatever happens to me, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to vote in favor of the way that my most
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  Speaker 1: of my listening audience wants. But because there are no
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  Speaker 1: standalone bills, these massive omnibus spending bills, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get a no for Massy because they increase our nation's debt,
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  Speaker 1: which is already insurmountable.
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  Speaker 2: No. No, I mean again, we don't need left Thomas
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  Speaker 2: Vassi more Cosman, We need like a couple hundred more.
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  Speaker 2: But but the point is, like he pointed out, the
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  Speaker 2: military industrial complex, the various you know billionaires and their companies.
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  Speaker 2: They don't want that. They don't want that. They got
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  Speaker 2: a good thing going man, six point seven trillion dollars
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  Speaker 2: a year going somewhere right into people's pockets, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't want to cut spending. And it's just you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is why people say to me, well, Tom, how
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  Speaker 2: can you know Amy act and be tied with a
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  Speaker 2: bank Ramaswami or Sharon Brown be able to compete with
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  Speaker 2: John Houston. I want to just spend one hundred million
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  Speaker 2: dollars telling people lies you can convince them of. The
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  Speaker 2: earth is swat. I mean, it's just like you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about the data center issue in the previous half an hour,
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  Speaker 2: which I think you took a great position on. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: look at we can make data centers safe and good
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  Speaker 2: for the community if we just look at the details
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  Speaker 2: and deal with facts. But you're not getting any facts.
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  Speaker 2: You're being told it's the end of the world. It's
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  Speaker 2: gonna pollute your water, your air, the sound is the problem.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna use your electricity. I heard all this from fracking,
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  Speaker 2: from the same people. It's all bull crap. But how
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  Speaker 2: do we get through it and you're doing a fabulous job.
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  Speaker 2: And my message to the people of Kentucky is straightforward.
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  Speaker 2: These billionaires can spend money, they can print lives, but
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  Speaker 2: you decide today. They aren't voting today. You are call
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  Speaker 2: your friends, get people out to vote. I mean they
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  Speaker 2: vote in democratic races, right, there's a democratic deballot they
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  Speaker 2: could vote. But in a Republican race, Republicans vote. You
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  Speaker 2: can decide, not their money. Do your own research, listen
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  Speaker 2: with Thomas Massey just said, and get the hell out
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  Speaker 2: and make a statement about who you want to represent you.
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  Speaker 2: That's the most important thing that's happened today. Don't let
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  Speaker 2: them decide. If you turn out numbers, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: we'll be just fine. I trust the people of Kentucky.
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  Speaker 2: I trust the Magna moved, I trust the patriots. But man,
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  Speaker 2: we are in a bad way because money has taken
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  Speaker 2: our agency, Brian. They've taken away our ability to counter
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  Speaker 2: the fact that their lives with facts. They've taken that away,
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  Speaker 2: and it scares the hell out of me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I actually I'm going to put it a different way.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with you. Tom Zawastowski from We the
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  Speaker 1: People at mention dot org. We by not paying attention,
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  Speaker 1: by ignoring what I call it weed dwelling. You don't
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  Speaker 1: have to necessarily dwell and weeds to pay attention, like,
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  Speaker 1: for example, Congress. From Massey's record, you know what he
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  Speaker 1: did in the past, the reasons he voted in for,
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  Speaker 1: in favor of, or against it. But if more people
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  Speaker 1: knew that Ed Gowerin's campaign would amount to literally nothing, right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's because we don't pay attention that money
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  Speaker 1: and influence can come up with this, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lie from Marshall and it actually sways people. That is
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  Speaker 1: what really irks me more than anything Tom, that those
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  Speaker 1: campaign ads have worked to some degree in favor.
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  Speaker 2: Of ed propaganda works. I don't know if I said
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  Speaker 2: this to you before, but I had to come up
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  Speaker 2: with an idea to create a comic called Political AI,
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  Speaker 2: where I would build software that would help inform people
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  Speaker 2: about what their representatives were doing. And one of the
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  Speaker 2: things I wanted to develop was a phone app that
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  Speaker 2: I was calling the BS Detector, where you could let
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  Speaker 2: their phone listen to an AD and then the AI
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  Speaker 2: would tell you if it was BS boy. I wish
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  Speaker 2: I had one of those today.
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  Speaker 1: I'd even give it permissions if I had an app
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  Speaker 1: like that, because I'm not an app guy, because I
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  Speaker 1: listened to Dave Hatter every Friday. But I actually i'd
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  Speaker 1: sign up for that. When Tom's awast ASKI speaking of
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  Speaker 1: way too much money in politics, Apparently people have caught
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  Speaker 1: on and they're stealing from us. Shocking. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fraud, wasted abuse going on most ugly here in Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: and the Medicaid issues we've got going on that and
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  Speaker 1: will Ohio suspend the gas tax more with Tom's Austausk
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  Speaker 1: you had seven forty five right now, fift about KRCD
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  Speaker 1: Talk station and a strong favorable works fifty fifty about
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  Speaker 1: KRCD talk Station. We the People Convention dot orgs where
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  Speaker 1: you find Tom's Awastowski, and I recommend you to do so.
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  Speaker 1: Tom joins the program every week talk about some really
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  Speaker 1: important issues. As we pivot over to the Medicaid scandal.
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  Speaker 1: Tom the Daily Wire blew the LID office, I think
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  Speaker 1: probably better than anybody else, but we've kind of had
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  Speaker 1: rumblings of fraud waste abuse in the Medicaid system for
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  Speaker 1: a long time now. He favor I pinked it an
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  Speaker 1: on back in twenty twenty four and found all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of problems and what is with And this is the
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  Speaker 1: point I wanted to make the electronic visit verification, which
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  Speaker 1: apparently is a new thing here in the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't that mandated in earlier congressional legislation that you had
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  Speaker 1: to do electronic verification when individuals were providing like home
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  Speaker 1: service to their own family members under medicaid?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 1: And so where in the hell was where in the
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  Speaker 1: hell was Ohio who turned it off? And under what
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  Speaker 1: right did they have to turn it off since the
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  Speaker 1: law required it? Tom right?
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  Speaker 2: And so the focuses on Mike the Wine and UH
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  Speaker 2: and his appointed people, you know, in these various agencies
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  Speaker 2: if you listen, you know, to Matt Huffman. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he just came right out and said that the legislature
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  Speaker 2: had passed like eleven different bills to fix this, to
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  Speaker 2: make sure these things weren't happening, and the Wine vetoed
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  Speaker 2: all of them. How do you how do you not
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  Speaker 2: have blame when they tried to fix it and you
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  Speaker 2: stopped them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, more fundamentally, why did he stop it? Is there
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  Speaker 1: an answer to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember when President Trump at the State of the
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  Speaker 2: Union asked people representatives if your job is to represent
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  Speaker 2: the American people instead of foreigners, and none of the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats stood up. Yep. Yeah, Well, Mike the Wines not
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  Speaker 2: standing up? Is he He's also behind the Haitians in Stringfield.
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  Speaker 2: He's He's been on this side of the the illegals
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  Speaker 2: for decades and now I think it's finally catching up
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  Speaker 2: to him because he cares more about them than he
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  Speaker 2: does about us. This is no small amount of money.
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  Speaker 2: This is a billion dollars minimum. And now we got
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  Speaker 2: the DJ coming in this coming week to start investigating.
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  Speaker 2: There's gonna be people arrested, and it's not gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a few people because people have known this and they
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  Speaker 2: didn't do anything, just like in Minneapolis, Just like in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: just like in Maine. This is an issue, Brian, I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you, in the election this November, I think fraud
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  Speaker 2: is going to be as big of an issue as
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  Speaker 2: illegal immigration was in twenty twenty four because it affects
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  Speaker 2: every one of us, and I got news for every
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  Speaker 2: one of us. It's happening everywhere, not just thru states,
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  Speaker 2: not just Red states. It's in your local community. And
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  Speaker 2: I'll say county prosecutors are going to be involved in
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  Speaker 2: this because they've known about a lot of this and
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  Speaker 2: done nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Well. One of many government programs we can point to
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  Speaker 1: that are just ridden with fraud, brace and abuse. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of the things I talk with tech Friday's
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  Speaker 1: Day of Hatter. If software developers focused upfront on security,
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  Speaker 1: we'd have a lot less problems we have with these
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  Speaker 1: Internet of Things devices. No, they just want to get
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  Speaker 1: something out into market. If our elected officials cared more
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  Speaker 1: about the taxpayer dollar in preventing fraud, waste and abuse, gee,
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  Speaker 1: something like electronic verification, they might put that into legislation
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  Speaker 1: and require states to do it so we aren't ripped off. Question,
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  Speaker 1: how can states get rid of the obligation to do it?
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  Speaker 1: I guess they just do whatever the hell they want
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  Speaker 1: tom and.
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  Speaker 2: See and again, it's simple things. When I was a
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  Speaker 2: young man, I worked as a security guard and like
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  Speaker 2: manufacturing plants, and I used to have to turn a
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  Speaker 2: key at each door to show that I checked it
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  Speaker 2: and I did my rounds. That's all this is. When
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  Speaker 2: you hear electronic verification, it's sounds so fancy. It's like
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  Speaker 2: a time clock for those of you old enough like me.
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  Speaker 2: What it basically says is, Okay, we're going to pay
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  Speaker 2: you to take care of this senior citizen who can't
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  Speaker 2: take care of themselves. But you've got to have GPS
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  Speaker 2: on the phone that says I'm at their house. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I got here at eleven o'clock and I left
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  Speaker 2: at four o'clock. That's all it is. Why would we
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  Speaker 2: turn that off?
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  Speaker 1: And you know, giant red flag to double down on
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  Speaker 1: the reality is going on in Ohio. How in the
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  Speaker 1: hell is it that so many of these agencies could
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  Speaker 1: have the same damn address and the vast majority of
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  Speaker 1: the payments and it went into Franklin County alone. Huh,
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  Speaker 1: nothing to see there. You would think, statistically that is
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  Speaker 1: so unlikely to happen that immediately will be a flag
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  Speaker 1: for fraud, waste and views.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is what I'm saying. They've institutionalized it. This
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  Speaker 2: isn't like a couple people or some individuals figuring out
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  Speaker 2: how to scam a program. This is literally the Somalis
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  Speaker 2: and other group. Heck, you know, Russian actors, people from
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  Speaker 2: foreign countries have been able to figure out where the
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  Speaker 2: flaws are, and then they like print a manual and
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  Speaker 2: then a recruited army of people that do it. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why you have whole buildings in Columbus full of
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  Speaker 2: the same people doing the same scam, just like we
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  Speaker 2: don't have any way to detect that. Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Just like Minnesota. It's scary, it's but you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you all day long. This is the American
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  Speaker 1: people taxpayer dollars. Whether they come from Republican pockets or
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  Speaker 1: Democrat pockets or anybody, they should all have a keen
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  Speaker 1: interest in preventing people from ripping us off. Collectively. That
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  Speaker 1: is an issue that I hope is the biggest issue
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  Speaker 1: for November and we get the vote on it cuz
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  Speaker 1: I know it's side of the political ledger. I'm on Tom,
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  Speaker 1: and I know I am against all of this fraud,
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  Speaker 1: wasted abuse. Someone else out there has to be too.
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  Speaker 1: We the People Convention dot or be the People Convention
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  Speaker 1: dot org. Find Tom there and check out his podcast
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  Speaker 1: weekly and tune into the fifty five Krsey Morning Show
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  Speaker 1: On a Tuesday at seven thirty you'll hear Tom. Tom
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  Speaker 1: will talk next week. Keep up the great work, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Bart. Get out the Vote, Kentucky, Get out the Vote.
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  Speaker 1: Get out the Vote. Arlean's on the line, ar Leaf.
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  Speaker 1: If you hold on over the brake we had Tom
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